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Speaker 1: Now your hosts, Barry Church, Danny mccrag and NEWI scrugs.
Speaker 1: It is Monday Moaning time, moaning and groaning about the
Speaker 1: Cowboys taking a thirty eight to ten loss to Arizona
Speaker 1: on Monday Night Football. I'm knw we scrugs, long time
Speaker 1: Cowboys reporter, joined by Danny mccry berry Church. Every Monday
Speaker 1: through Friday two thirty. We call it the Players Labs
Speaker 1: about you by Hotels dot Com. All right, Barry Church,
Speaker 1: how in the world do you explain this beating like this?
Speaker 1: How do you explain it? Very man? Well, cr CBR producer.
Speaker 1: I'm getting a little echo in the ear right here,
Speaker 1: real quick, all right, So now everything situated, Everything's back
Speaker 1: to normal. Man. This was a tough one, man. This
Speaker 1: was a tough one for no stradomins out here, man.
Speaker 1: Because I put my heart out on the sleeve. I
Speaker 1: put my emotions, I put my heart out on the sleeve.
Speaker 1: I sided with the boys. I thought Andy Dalton, I
Speaker 1: thought this defense would come alive. I just thought they
Speaker 1: would do they would do better by me, man and
Speaker 1: and and that's what I get. That's what I get
Speaker 1: for bet with my heart and uh and that's what
Speaker 1: I get for talking stuff because I was I was
Speaker 1: texting you and Danny early in the game when the
Speaker 1: defense was showing up a little bit, and I thought, Hey,
Speaker 1: this is falling right into my hands. Little did I
Speaker 1: know that I was doing fools gold right there. And
Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, he exposed that whole defense, and he exposed
Speaker 1: everything he talked about in the players lounge earlier that week,
Speaker 1: about spying on him, about having Jalen Smith kind of
Speaker 1: be that spy, and how he embarrassed him in the
Speaker 1: open field. He embarrassed pretty much anybody that tried to
Speaker 1: spy on him or tried to tackle him in the
Speaker 1: open field. The guy was just too electric. I mean
Speaker 1: he was He was a danger with his arms, and
Speaker 1: he was a danger with his legs. He was pretty
Speaker 1: much able to do whatever he want on that field.
Speaker 1: And you could tell early in the game that the
Speaker 1: jitters were getting a little bit too much for him.
Speaker 1: And you know, he was very excited to be back
Speaker 1: home you know Texas Texas product out there back at
Speaker 1: Jerry Rolls, back at his stadium where he's been undefeated at.
Speaker 1: You can tell was getting a little bit to him
Speaker 1: because a lot of those early throws were arid. And
Speaker 1: that's what I thought our defense, Hey, we might have
Speaker 1: a chance in this game. We might actually be able
Speaker 1: to do something. But boy, was out wrong. I was
Speaker 1: completely wrong. I thought Andy Dalton was going to be
Speaker 1: able to come in here, we were gonna get back
Speaker 1: to that ground and pound formula, and he was gonna
Speaker 1: be able to throw off a play action and I
Speaker 1: actually thought he was gonna be able to flourish in
Speaker 1: this system. But through one game, I was completely wrong.
Speaker 1: He was not able to He didn't look on point
Speaker 1: at all. His throws were aired. He should have had
Speaker 1: a couple interceptions that that one early in the I
Speaker 1: think it was in the first quarter where he was
Speaker 1: wrapped up in the backfield and decided to just throw
Speaker 1: the ball in the middle of the field. That one
Speaker 1: should have been picked off and probably should have been
Speaker 1: a pick six if the linebacker had any hands, but
Speaker 1: you know it wasn't. And that was pretty much the
Speaker 1: story all night. Just miscommunication everywhere along the board. Offensively,
Speaker 1: receivers couldn't really get open. I didn't know Arizona's past
Speaker 1: defense was that sticky, because I mean, we got three
Speaker 1: of the best receivers in my opinion, in the game
Speaker 1: right now, and those guys were extremely sticky. There wasn't
Speaker 1: a lot of plays where those guys were just wide
Speaker 1: open catching the ball. So you got to give kudos
Speaker 1: to Arizona's defense out there, especially their past defense, and
Speaker 1: they were able to heat up Andy Dalton without their
Speaker 1: main guy, Chandler Jones. They were able to heat up
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton out there. Buddha Baker, who who I thought
Speaker 1: was overpaid, and I was like, man, this guy doesn't
Speaker 1: even have a career interception. How's he getting as much money?
Speaker 1: But man, he went out there and proved me wrong
Speaker 1: as well. That guy was all over the field. I
Speaker 1: mean he was blitzing from everywhere. He was all in
Speaker 1: Andy Dalton's face all night long, making plays in the
Speaker 1: past coverage, making plays against the run, stripping cats. I mean,
Speaker 1: he showed you what an NFL players should look like
Speaker 1: when you give one hundred percent on each and every snap.
Speaker 1: Because there was plays when I'll break it down this
Speaker 1: one when they when Ezekiel Elliott's first fumble, he was
Speaker 1: hemmed up. He was in the line of scrimmage, hemmed
Speaker 1: up by Brandon Knight. He had nowhere to go, but
Speaker 1: he didn't give up on the play. Once Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: caught that pass, he got off a Brandon Knight hustled down,
Speaker 1: stripped the ball. Made one of the huge plays in
Speaker 1: the game. So kudos the Buddha Baker and that Arizona defense.
Speaker 1: They stifled. I mean, they stifled this offense and they
Speaker 1: proved no Shodama is wrong. Man, what else can I say?
Speaker 1: I just got to bury myself in my shame right now, dude,
Speaker 1: he got down So Tuesday singing it different too. But
Speaker 1: Chris Spreen, can you play to the South from Barry
Speaker 1: on Friday? Jep it Barry on Friday? Can you play
Speaker 1: that back for me? You kind of cut here? Oh man,
Speaker 1: diamonds overhead? Pick it? Man, I hope it don't work,
Speaker 1: you say now, listen, I can't I can't wait for
Speaker 1: the group message on Monday. I cannot wait. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: be blowing you up during the during the pregame show.
Speaker 1: So so try not to look, you might want to
Speaker 1: put me on solid mode. I'm gonna call them boys
Speaker 1: out for the pre game too. I'm like, hey, y'all
Speaker 1: gotta step it up, and you know what, it's gonna
Speaker 1: come to fruition just because Nore Diamonds says. So now,
Speaker 1: when we come back in here on what Tuesday and
Speaker 1: the score is twenty four twenty one, like I predicted,
Speaker 1: you know, I'm gonna need my gratification all that. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need it all from every one of y'all, every
Speaker 1: one of y'all. Look, look, man, if you're if you're right,
Speaker 1: you know, we'll start the show right there. If you
Speaker 1: write I know what you know. But you know what's
Speaker 1: gonna happen. If you're not, okay, we're gonna make I'm preparing.
Speaker 1: I'm prepared for that because I don't think it's gonna happen.
Speaker 1: I'm prepared for that. Oh oh buddy, buddy, buddy. Yeah. Now,
Speaker 1: now see you were on the right track, okay, initially
Speaker 1: because McCray had it thirty five twenty four Arizona. I
Speaker 1: had thirty six thirty three Arizona and you had it
Speaker 1: twenty eight twenty one Arizona. Then you flipped somewhere along
Speaker 1: the way. You flipped and you said Cowboys twenty four
Speaker 1: twenty one. So so you went from being pragmatic like
Speaker 1: we were. Okay, you went from being that because because
Speaker 1: I said, look, until I see this team beat a
Speaker 1: club with a winning record, I can't pick them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Parcels always used to say, all I can go by
Speaker 1: is what I see. And what we've seen for the
Speaker 1: Cowboys is they could not play with a team that
Speaker 1: has a winning record or a team that can compete,
Speaker 1: especially somebody that can get after them all those offensive
Speaker 1: and defensive lines, and what don't we see from the
Speaker 1: old line Yesterday? We saw the old line get decimated
Speaker 1: when you saw Zack Martin go out there. So now
Speaker 1: you're based out that throwing out four rookies trying to
Speaker 1: survive and compete. And one of the things that we've
Speaker 1: spoken about all week was how you can't continue to
Speaker 1: turn the football and who was turning the football over?
Speaker 1: The very guy that the Cowboys were trying to put
Speaker 1: the offensive game plan in his hands, Ezekiel Elliott. There's
Speaker 1: a nothing, nothing game in the first quarter, then Zeke
Speaker 1: puts it on the ground. Arizona converts it into a touchdown.
Speaker 1: Next series, Zeke catches the pass, puts it out there
Speaker 1: and bam they go ahead and score again. And it's
Speaker 1: a fourteen nothing ball game. Chris, You've got a little
Speaker 1: montage of some of these Ezekiel Elliot miscues from yesterday.
Speaker 1: Can you play that? Soer? Okay? So my thing, Barry
Speaker 1: is twenty one. When he signed his contract last year,
Speaker 1: highest paid running back in the game, and several times
Speaker 1: on social media and during this offseason people ranking running
Speaker 1: back and he didn't like where he was ranked. He
Speaker 1: felt like he was not getting his respect. Barry, you
Speaker 1: can't get paid this much money, you can't talk about respect,
Speaker 1: and then when your team needs you the most, be
Speaker 1: the person who lost the football game because it was
Speaker 1: his two turnovers that changed the whole football game. Man,
Speaker 1: I mean, you're down fourteen to nothing. This is something
Speaker 1: that simply cannot happen from twenty one. I mean, it
Speaker 1: just can't happen. He single handedly took the competitive football
Speaker 1: phase of the game and gave it to Arizona. Man,
Speaker 1: this was awful by him. It was It was extremely awful.
Speaker 1: And you know what, I can't even defend him. I
Speaker 1: can't even defend my boy today because, like you said, man,
Speaker 1: he was the catalyst they were they were trying to
Speaker 1: put the game plan. They were trying to put everything
Speaker 1: in his hands, their leader, their franchise quarterback, everything, their offense.
Speaker 1: Basically with Dak Prescott was gone when he left, so
Speaker 1: when he got injured, so everything was pretty much boiled
Speaker 1: down to Ezekiel Elliott. We're gonna ground and pound, We're
Speaker 1: gonna run with him. We're gonna let Andy Dalton play
Speaker 1: action or throw what needed, but the offense is gonna
Speaker 1: run through Zeke. I mean that's what we all thought
Speaker 1: going into this game. But I mean the way he
Speaker 1: went out there, and you're right, his fumbles were so
Speaker 1: costly because they were right in the middle of drives.
Speaker 1: They were right in the middle where you could see
Speaker 1: the offense was starting to click a little bit, it
Speaker 1: was starting to get some momentimum, starting to get the
Speaker 1: ball rolling, and boom, the fumbles just happened. And when
Speaker 1: you're a guy that's getting you know, he's got ninety
Speaker 1: million and you're supposed to be, you know, a top
Speaker 1: three back in the NFL, you just cannot you cannot
Speaker 1: give the ball way like that once, okay, but twice
Speaker 1: in a game. Those are momentum changing events that are
Speaker 1: happening out there. You're giving this Arizona team who's already out,
Speaker 1: who's already outmatching you. You're giving him the ball on
Speaker 1: a short field. You're giving Kyla Murray the ball on
Speaker 1: a short field to gug against this defense that's already shorthanded.
Speaker 1: I mean, they were doing a good job up until
Speaker 1: you know, I think, well maybe the second quarter when
Speaker 1: they got their first score. But we just can't continually
Speaker 1: put this bad defense out there in even worse positions.
Speaker 1: I mean, there were so many times out there where
Speaker 1: either it was special teams or it was Zeke fumbling
Speaker 1: the ball where Arizona would have a short field and
Speaker 1: you can't give a guy like Kyla Murray that a
Speaker 1: short field like that and expect to hold him out
Speaker 1: of the end zone. It was just a matter of
Speaker 1: time before the ball got rolling, and we saw once
Speaker 1: Arizona started clicking, it was a rat. It was a
Speaker 1: done dotta, it was over. I mean, I mean, we'll
Speaker 1: get into the coaching and we'll get into the specific
Speaker 1: plays and a little bit, but for me, I mean
Speaker 1: I was shocked. I was shocked at how poorly all
Speaker 1: three phases of the Dallas Cowboys football team played on
Speaker 1: last night. I mean it was bad. It was a
Speaker 1: bad display. Yeah, I'm sitting here and I go back
Speaker 1: to the place shee because I'm sitting there at the game,
Speaker 1: and you know I charted the game here and go
Speaker 1: back to my chart. So the Cowboys are on this
Speaker 1: drive here, it's second and nine from the forty nine.
Speaker 1: Zeke catches the ball, he fumbles it in Arizona gets
Speaker 1: the ball and so now it's a first and ten
Speaker 1: at the forty six, and they run a whole bunch
Speaker 1: of players take it down to a second and goal
Speaker 1: from the six yard line, and Kyler Murgys has a
Speaker 1: little jet sweet pass over to Christian Kirky seven. Oh,
Speaker 1: so the Cowboys getting the ball back. So it is
Speaker 1: first and ten at at the twenty five. Noah Brown
Speaker 1: makes a catch for one yard. That it's second and
Speaker 1: twenty second and nine from the twenty six. Ezekiel Elliott
Speaker 1: fumbles the football and so now Kyler Murray next possession
Speaker 1: with one, two, three, four. Five plays later, Kenyan Drake
Speaker 1: runs it in from the one and it's fourteen to nothing,
Speaker 1: and you're just you're now you're you're in a hole.
Speaker 1: So then Dallas gets the ball back church they end up, uh,
Speaker 1: they end up having to they do anything with it.
Speaker 1: And so Arizona got the ball back first and ten
Speaker 1: at the twenty and then it goes up top Christian
Speaker 1: kirk Adard touchdown and that was up one time twenty
Speaker 1: one and nothing. At that point in time, the game
Speaker 1: was rapp um. Joe Martine had gone out of the game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Zach Martin had gone out of the game, so he
Speaker 1: had more offensive line issues. And give give their defensive
Speaker 1: Cordina Intervatvans Joseph enough credit. He kept mixing it up
Speaker 1: and made it tough for for the Cowboys. And so
Speaker 1: turnovers right there, it's killed the Cowboys all year. Uh,
Speaker 1: they're negative twelfth, they're worse than the league. Arizona scored
Speaker 1: twenty four of their thirty eight points off Dallas Cowboys turnovers.
Speaker 1: So you already have any defensive struggling, and so your
Speaker 1: offense and the you know, at the time highest paid
Speaker 1: running back in the game, he's been been surpassed by
Speaker 1: Christian McCaffrey. But you know, you had you had a
Speaker 1: guy who demand held out and demanded his money, and
Speaker 1: you're trying to put the game plan in his hands
Speaker 1: and Ezekiel Elliot just let you down. Afterwards, he took
Speaker 1: the loss, he said, put it on me, and you know, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. They should put a big bulk of it
Speaker 1: on Ezekiel Ellie. This is just awful because you simply
Speaker 1: cannot take your team out of a football game. And
Speaker 1: Mike McCarthy afterwards, he's exasperated, he wasn't happy. Spoke about
Speaker 1: the turnovers, and he mentioned one thing Church which made
Speaker 1: me kind of saying, m He said, well, maybe guys
Speaker 1: are trying too hard and maybe we over coached him.
Speaker 1: I'm just sitting there saying, no, that's not the case. Again,
Speaker 1: that's not the case in my opinion. Yeah, that that's
Speaker 1: that's not the case at all in my opinion either. Look,
Speaker 1: I mean, to me, when it comes down to it,
Speaker 1: these are turnovers that you can't coach. It's not like
Speaker 1: you're saying, oh, you gotta keep it, you know, hind
Speaker 1: tight or anything like that. Demand he fumbled the ball,
Speaker 1: it was on the players. That's I mean, that's what
Speaker 1: it is, you know, And We'll talk about this a
Speaker 1: little bit when we get into the show, but to me,
Speaker 1: it was, you know, the only varias one has remained
Speaker 1: the same in these past two Cowboys teams with these
Speaker 1: coaching eras is the players. A lot of these players
Speaker 1: from Garrett is Garrett's era is still here in the
Speaker 1: McCarthy era. I mean, and when Garrett was here, it was,
Speaker 1: you know, he can't he can't motivate these guys. He's
Speaker 1: coach eight and eight. All he does is clap on
Speaker 1: the sidelines. And then when when went to Marionelli, Marinelli's
Speaker 1: defense is just too vanilla. Everybody's picking up on it.
Speaker 1: But that became the game is Yeah, but they were
Speaker 1: performing better than the than they are right now. And
Speaker 1: true as well, that's true as well. But he was true,
Speaker 1: both things can be true. This is true. Yeah, both
Speaker 1: things can't be true, and but basically, the only variable
Speaker 1: that remained the same was these players. And to me,
Speaker 1: I can't put the majority of the blame on the
Speaker 1: coaches because look, the coaches, these are professional athletes. I mean,
Speaker 1: Darryl Worley is an NFL veteran. It's not like he's
Speaker 1: a rookie or anything like that. And so when you
Speaker 1: got a guy like Christian Kirk, who you know is
Speaker 1: fast and is running at you full speed, his head
Speaker 1: is down, he is charging, you should know this is
Speaker 1: that's little league ball, that's high school ball. You should
Speaker 1: know you gotta open up and run. I mean, if
Speaker 1: he comes back on a comeback, you can live with
Speaker 1: giving up comebacks, but you can't live with giving up
Speaker 1: ader bombs. And this is something that a professional corner
Speaker 1: in the National Football League has got to know. There's
Speaker 1: there's no you shouldn't have been coached up on that
Speaker 1: back in high school. When somebody is running up on you,
Speaker 1: open up so you can run with them. And he
Speaker 1: did nothing. He just sat there and let the guy
Speaker 1: run right by him. So for me, you know, I
Speaker 1: hear all these reports about you know, the coaches aren't
Speaker 1: doing this, coaches aren't doing that. What are the players doing?
Speaker 1: What are we getting out of these players that we
Speaker 1: paid so much money too? Where was the pressure on
Speaker 1: Kyla Murray? He was able to escape the pocket and
Speaker 1: do pretty much whatever he wanted. Are we gonna blame
Speaker 1: the coaches on that one? I mean, it's just where
Speaker 1: these fumbles. Are we gonna blame the blame skip for
Speaker 1: Zeke being being able to fumble all these times. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous, and I think the players they have
Speaker 1: to take accountability for this one which Zeke was able
Speaker 1: to do. Church. You you had said Friday that don
Speaker 1: Terry Poe was gonna get off the milk cartons backing
Speaker 1: off the milk carton. I don't know if he threw
Speaker 1: Tike in there, but but you know, you talked about
Speaker 1: guys would get ready to show some stuff that I
Speaker 1: remembered that. I remembered you talking about that. And all
Speaker 1: I kept seeing was I just kept seeing Poe get
Speaker 1: turned to the left, turned to the right, and wherever
Speaker 1: they wanted him to go, he went, and they just
Speaker 1: ran right past him. Um, Tyrone Crawford, how about Tyrone
Speaker 1: Crawford getting a taunting penalty As Kyler Murray scrambles to
Speaker 1: the one yard line. I heard the rapper, I say what, um?
Speaker 1: And then with Tank Lawrence, you didn't hear from him ever.
Speaker 1: See Griffin several times let Kyler Murray get outside the
Speaker 1: pocket and Gil outside break contained and it was it
Speaker 1: was a problem, man, It was just a problem. And
Speaker 1: they it was deflating. Church. But but the guys you
Speaker 1: thought would get off the Milk Carton certainly did not
Speaker 1: do it all Monday Night football, not at all. I mean,
Speaker 1: they remained on the All Milk Carton team. They're still
Speaker 1: an APB, They're still a missing person's alert for pretty
Speaker 1: much everybody on that defense. I mean, we talked, Jayleen,
Speaker 1: talked to Jaylen Smith, talked all week about effort and
Speaker 1: how they're going to pick up their game, and it
Speaker 1: just didn't look good. I mean we saw there was
Speaker 1: I mean they pointed it out all on social media,
Speaker 1: all on everywhere. There was a play where I believe
Speaker 1: it was DeAndre Hawkins who caught a shallow, shallow rout.
Speaker 1: Maybe he caught the ball maybe three yards from the
Speaker 1: line of scrimmage and he was able to turn that up.
Speaker 1: And DeAndre Hawkins is nowhere near the fastest man on earth.
Speaker 1: He is probably a four six four six five guy,
Speaker 1: and he just made our whole defense look extremely slow.
Speaker 1: And the captain of the defense, mister swipe his hands,
Speaker 1: mister clear, I've used. He was just he was jogging
Speaker 1: to see it. He was jogging on the play. I mean, man,
Speaker 1: it's tough right now. Louis and I took one to
Speaker 1: the chest because I had these guys. Hey, I thought
Speaker 1: these guys were gonna show up for me. But man,
Speaker 1: I lost my nickname. I'm no longer no Sadamis. I'm
Speaker 1: just pick them wrong, churse now, man, just call me
Speaker 1: pick them wrong. Man. It's just not looking good for
Speaker 1: us right now. Let's take a break. Some news from
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Speaker 1: home studios. All right, So McCrae, I want to read
Speaker 1: something here from from a friend, James Slater all Right
Speaker 1: of NFL Network. She covers the team and This is
Speaker 1: a tweet that she put out two hours ago, and
Speaker 1: it says Cowboy players initially bought into keeping things internal.
Speaker 1: Now as they sit at two and four, the discontent
Speaker 1: is leaking out on the coaching staff. Quote totally unprepared.
Speaker 1: They don't teach, they don't have any sense of adjusting
Speaker 1: on the fly. Another player told her, quote, they just
Speaker 1: are good at their jobs in quote, So the players
Speaker 1: are turning on Mike McCarthy's staff. McCray, your thoughts on that.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hear it, that it's not legit
Speaker 1: and there's really nothing behind it. Because I heard Church
Speaker 1: talking about some stuff, you know, worldy get out there,
Speaker 1: and he's supposed to be in cover three in Church,
Speaker 1: you know, like I know, and cover three who has
Speaker 1: the curl, the flat, the flat defender, safe field and nine.
Speaker 1: So the deep corner should never ever have to worry
Speaker 1: about covering that. And that's exactly what twenty eight did.
Speaker 1: So I don't want to hear anything about teaching or
Speaker 1: being unprepared. Cover three is something that I learned way
Speaker 1: back in high school, and I know that cover three
Speaker 1: is three deep, and if I'm the corner, I am
Speaker 1: a deep defender and this like bleeze throughout the whole
Speaker 1: entire defense. So I don't want to hear anything about
Speaker 1: not being able to learn or just you can't just
Speaker 1: cover three, like sometimes the players just don't play up
Speaker 1: to their ability and they're just not disciplined. And we're
Speaker 1: on the coaches and I said, you know last week,
Speaker 1: somebody that we should really be pointing that or the
Speaker 1: defensive back coaches, not necessarily just Nolan, it has to
Speaker 1: be the defensive back coaches because whatever they're teaching, it's
Speaker 1: not working and it's the exact opposite of how things
Speaker 1: should be run. So you know, them pointing the fingers
Speaker 1: that the coaches they can say what they want, but
Speaker 1: really this is this is almost sixty sixty percent on
Speaker 1: the players, forty percent on the coach, especially after you
Speaker 1: already know what the coaches are going to call, and
Speaker 1: you still go out there and put that type of
Speaker 1: effort on camera. What I want to know is who
Speaker 1: said that they're not good at their jobs, because because
Speaker 1: if their name is, if the guy that said that's
Speaker 1: not CD Lamb, nobody on this team has the right
Speaker 1: to say somebody else ain't good at their job. After
Speaker 1: what I've seen what I've seen on TV. I mean,
Speaker 1: this is ridiculous out here. But they're talking about the
Speaker 1: coaches ain't doing this, coaches ain't doing that. But what
Speaker 1: are y'all doing on the field. Y'all are out there
Speaker 1: just getting man handled. I mean, look, just look, there's
Speaker 1: half of the time Poe is in the secondary. I
Speaker 1: thought he was a safety yesterday wearing ninety five. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's ridiculous out here. Um. And I mean, like I said,
Speaker 1: I had no room to talk either, because I'm the
Speaker 1: one that was hyping them up, saying they was gonna
Speaker 1: get the w So I'm gonna just go ahead, go
Speaker 1: back in our little corner over here. And man, oh,
Speaker 1: go ahead, mister Dummins, go go ahead, mister Cleo. Huh,
Speaker 1: mister Cleo. He said that they were absolutely no sense.
Speaker 1: Let me tell you something, Church Church. I know you
Speaker 1: pointed out one guy and it was Ceedee Lamb. Who
Speaker 1: who has a little bit of room to talk. There's
Speaker 1: another guy who's still my MVP of the defense, mister Goodwin,
Speaker 1: the guy that they decided to release by Florida before
Speaker 1: the season, the best special teams player, one of the
Speaker 1: only guys that plays, defenses out there making plays. Did
Speaker 1: it again this week. He is one of the bright
Speaker 1: spots on there. And this is why this is another
Speaker 1: thing against the special teams coordinator. You released this guy,
Speaker 1: you released your best guy, so obviously you are not
Speaker 1: seeing the game the way that we are see it,
Speaker 1: and that is a huge problem. That fifty fifty eight
Speaker 1: yard field goal attempt made me question what they were
Speaker 1: doing too out there. I mean fifty eight yards he gragged.
Speaker 1: The leg was not even close. Um, I'm sorry, I
Speaker 1: mean that I'm last night. Once again, they don't have enough,
Speaker 1: you know they have they got the wrong numbers on
Speaker 1: the field. Uh, I mean, just it's and John Fossil
Speaker 1: said it's not gonna happen. This week, it happened again.
Speaker 1: I mean, they can't even get the right number of
Speaker 1: guys out there on special teams for for their to
Speaker 1: do their jobs. And it's man, Yeah, I didn't think
Speaker 1: it would get worse. It's gotten worse. And one of
Speaker 1: the big problems of why, looking at how it's gotten worse.
Speaker 1: We were all sold and told how it was going
Speaker 1: to be better. I mean he told us that, Mike
Speaker 1: McCarthy said that, and it's not happened, and I could
Speaker 1: tell you believed Harris. Yeah I did, man, Yeah, I
Speaker 1: believed it. I believed man, I got I met Man.
Speaker 1: I was a fifth sucker that got me. I bought it.
Speaker 1: I sat there, you wanted to do this walking in
Speaker 1: New York, were out there and bought one of them
Speaker 1: fake persons. Somebody told you what and you went out
Speaker 1: there and bought it, and you ain't find out it
Speaker 1: was fake till you took it home to the wife
Speaker 1: and she was like, what is this? No? I did
Speaker 1: not did not do that, but I bought into what
Speaker 1: he had done in Green Bay. I bought into the whole. Hey,
Speaker 1: I've spent this all season, got a staff of people,
Speaker 1: were getting ready to go. We're getting out playing together.
Speaker 1: We're gonna do analytic to me, I bought it. I
Speaker 1: bought it, and I said to myself, Man, should I
Speaker 1: tweet at Tom Pallisero Because Tom Pallisero of NFL Network
Speaker 1: and Peter King of NBC Sports, they both did stories
Speaker 1: on Mike McCarthy talking about how Mike was gonna get
Speaker 1: ready for us come back and it was gonna be
Speaker 1: I mean, man, they laid it out good. They sold
Speaker 1: it so well. I sat there, Yeah, man, this is
Speaker 1: gonna yeah, eating it all up. And this is bad, bro,
Speaker 1: this is bad. No. I'm not gonna be one of
Speaker 1: those people that says, oh, you'd have been better off
Speaker 1: for Jason Garrett. No, no, you were better off for Jason,
Speaker 1: and you're not better off with Mike McCarthy. You're not
Speaker 1: better off with either of these dudes. You may need
Speaker 1: to go get another guy. If this continue, if this
Speaker 1: train keeps going down this road, if this ends up
Speaker 1: three and thirteen or five to eleven, Jerry may even
Speaker 1: have to ask himself could this be one and done?
Speaker 1: Could this be able? Because look, go ahead, go ahead,
Speaker 1: and go ahead bad? If what Jane Slater is saying
Speaker 1: now and they're in first place, what happens when they
Speaker 1: fall out of first place? What's gonna be said? How
Speaker 1: far is this train gonna get off the track? How
Speaker 1: bad could it get? I mean, go ahead, church, go ahead,
Speaker 1: I mean they gotta I mean, first of all, they
Speaker 1: they need to thank guy that this division is is
Speaker 1: got down right awful and terrible and six and ten
Speaker 1: might make it to the playoffs in this division, so
Speaker 1: they need to be thankful for that. But you know
Speaker 1: what this is. This is eerially eerily similar to my
Speaker 1: rookie year and d mad you know what I'm talking about,
Speaker 1: where we started off terrible, downright terrible, and we went
Speaker 1: up to Green Bay. It was a it was a
Speaker 1: Monday night game, just like this one we just had,
Speaker 1: and we went up there and got slacked. I mean
Speaker 1: we got the breaks beat off of us. I think
Speaker 1: it was like forty five to three. It was one
Speaker 1: of the worst performances I've ever been a part of.
Speaker 1: And this is the way is this This was that
Speaker 1: uncle way again, and this right here is it's just
Speaker 1: eerily similar. I mean, you had guys during that game
Speaker 1: or after that game calling people out on the bus
Speaker 1: ride home talk or the bus ride to the airport,
Speaker 1: talking about, man, these coaches don't know nothing, Man, what
Speaker 1: the hell is going on? We went from thirteen and
Speaker 1: three to this and it was I'm just saying, it's
Speaker 1: a lot of eerily similarities between that team and this team.
Speaker 1: And like you said, you know what happened at next week,
Speaker 1: d Mac. We had that team meeting and here comes
Speaker 1: mister Jones walking in and say, hey, somebody got to go,
Speaker 1: and so hey, I'm just saying this is I'm not
Speaker 1: saying he's gonna be done, but this is really similar. Listen,
Speaker 1: if if McCarthy is not done, the coordinators should be done.
Speaker 1: Like somebody has to pay too for this. Yes, special
Speaker 1: teams coordinator gotta go. You gotta question what Kellen Moore's
Speaker 1: doing our offense and you gotta say, hey, McCarthy, look,
Speaker 1: you either gonna call the offensive place or we don't
Speaker 1: get somebody else in here. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: the b our head coach, because like we specifically hired
Speaker 1: you for this. We got all this offensive talent and
Speaker 1: you're you're you know, you did analytics. You're supposed to
Speaker 1: be known for being able to get us some of
Speaker 1: the hunt we pupposed putting the forty points a game,
Speaker 1: you know, And you say, you know, no matter who
Speaker 1: it is, and I know how to develop quarterbacks and
Speaker 1: they don't shouldn't be out there looking that bad and
Speaker 1: he does. So it's really nothing positive for McCarthy. So
Speaker 1: somebody should have to answer for this. Special teams has
Speaker 1: been horrible, offense has been you know, it is what
Speaker 1: it is, And the worst thing about this whole team
Speaker 1: is the effort. Man, you know, you go out there
Speaker 1: and you get paid to play this game. You get
Speaker 1: paid to go out there, you know, and play with pride,
Speaker 1: and some of the players that you see out there
Speaker 1: with the lack of effort is really baffling. It's head scratching.
Speaker 1: Like an NFL player can go out there and do
Speaker 1: that and accept that, you know, when they go in
Speaker 1: there and watch film on Tuesday and see it and
Speaker 1: be like, all right, that's me. I'm cool with that.
Speaker 1: I there's a picture on Twitter that and probably on
Speaker 1: Facebook and Instagram as well of a shot last night
Speaker 1: that ESPN gout. It was a guy in a Zeke
Speaker 1: jersey in the stands and he's hiss like that and
Speaker 1: you see his girl comforting. And while I don't do
Speaker 1: the Jerry Jones show anymore on one oh five three
Speaker 1: the Fan, if I did, I would have asked Jerry Jerry,
Speaker 1: as the Hall of Fame owner of this franchise, what
Speaker 1: do you say to a man like that who spent
Speaker 1: good money to come here, who waited, you know, probably
Speaker 1: had these tickets for weeks to come to Monday night
Speaker 1: football and he watches a twenty eight point beating and
Speaker 1: his girls got to comfort him. As though he lost
Speaker 1: the family member. What do you say to fans like that?
Speaker 1: Because you you you, and I know people you and
Speaker 1: I know those die hard fans man. And I was
Speaker 1: checking my social media pages. Man, these these fans were
Speaker 1: getting clowned and I felt bad too. Man cut my
Speaker 1: friend brothers. Man, they got clowned on our on our
Speaker 1: little social media at a little Facebook page. Man, And
Speaker 1: I felt bad for Man, what can you do? What
Speaker 1: can you say? And we were all taking to kool
Speaker 1: ai too, and then you know, because you know they
Speaker 1: know me, and I was like, yeahything, it would be good.
Speaker 1: They're gonna be good this year. I felt bad for
Speaker 1: what do you say? What do you say? It's like
Speaker 1: everybody was at dude, lady, were you like this? Everybody
Speaker 1: was that guy last Night's a die hard cowboy thing
Speaker 1: like Jerry? How do you help these people? But what
Speaker 1: do you do? I mean, these are the people that
Speaker 1: buy the tickets, that buy the jerseys a boy, the
Speaker 1: merchandise year in, year out, they buy, they drink the
Speaker 1: blue kool aid and they just that was wrong last
Speaker 1: night for the that was wrong. You should be sitting
Speaker 1: there with your hand, your head and your hand like
Speaker 1: that as well for that blasphemy that you just said
Speaker 1: about five minutes ago talking about we are no better
Speaker 1: off now than when we had with Jason Garrett. How
Speaker 1: please explain to me how that is true? That tell
Speaker 1: me when you can look back in history and you've
Speaker 1: seen this type of play throughout the entire team from
Speaker 1: a Jason Garrett lead team, you know, and this is
Speaker 1: with that, without that, with Romo, without Romo, Like even
Speaker 1: when we didn't have Romo, we were still fighting and
Speaker 1: claw and scratching to to be in those games. And
Speaker 1: one of them, you you one thing you wouldn't say
Speaker 1: about us as man. Them dudes was out there quit man,
Speaker 1: they didn't do that. What's going on? You didn't see that?
Speaker 1: And they we never looked this bad. All right, here's
Speaker 1: here's my premise and what I'm trying. Maybe I I
Speaker 1: articulate this better to you. I don't think the Cowboys
Speaker 1: were ever going to win a championship with Jason Gain.
Speaker 1: So you needed to move on, Okay, you needed to
Speaker 1: move on from that, and they brought in Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: And that's why I said, you're no better because this guy,
Speaker 1: Jason wasn't leading you a championship and six games into this,
Speaker 1: Carthy an't leading you a new championship. So you're to
Speaker 1: be championship, you're not. You're yeah, playoffs. So we're talking goodness.
Speaker 1: So that's what the guy wins. You know, neither guys
Speaker 1: helping you put a Lombardy, you guy Lombardy, and they're
Speaker 1: not equal. One does not equal to other. New that
Speaker 1: that is, that is absolutely not that's not a neither
Speaker 1: neither one's meeting the standard. Man, Neither one's meeting the standard.
Speaker 1: And either neither guy's going to meet the standard. It
Speaker 1: ain't nobody met that ain't nobody met the standards in
Speaker 1: nineteen ninety five. What are you talking this? This you
Speaker 1: I need to chase it, man, you need to go
Speaker 1: get it. You need to go get it. Look at
Speaker 1: the Lakers, the Lakers, the Lakers, they went through the
Speaker 1: they went through the dold rooms and they kept chasing
Speaker 1: it and trying to get it right. Okay, that's what
Speaker 1: that's what McCarthy, that's what. We are no better off.
Speaker 1: We are no better off with McCarthy now than we
Speaker 1: were with any time. And Jason, Okay, I got you
Speaker 1: looking at the games that we see sitting here at
Speaker 1: two and four. All right, I got McCarthy. Are you
Speaker 1: like the Lakers? Hey? Are you this to new Are
Speaker 1: you saying we need to move on? If this thing
Speaker 1: continues to go like this, and you look up in
Speaker 1: December and you sitting here at five and eleven, and
Speaker 1: if they are moaning and groaning about this staff now
Speaker 1: saying this, then Jerry's gonna have to ask himself some
Speaker 1: serious situations. Is this the right guy in the right staff.
Speaker 1: I mean he's going to have to ask himself this
Speaker 1: because we've never seen get off the rails like fever backpedaling.
Speaker 1: You gotta stop backpedallet at beating around the bush man
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Speaker 1: the players. Frankly that we've been got manna from heaven.
Speaker 1: Being in the East, these things have a way of
Speaker 1: even and out as we go along, and certainly then
Speaker 1: if Ceast is having his challenges right now, all of
Speaker 1: that is a way of not wanting to talk about
Speaker 1: other teams when you're not playing any better. Than we are.
Speaker 1: It's hard for me to basic look to the end game,
Speaker 1: which is to win the East, and get excited about
Speaker 1: the fact that we're better than anybody. We may be slow,
Speaker 1: but we're ahead of you syndrome. We've got to get
Speaker 1: better to have the kind of season that makes sense
Speaker 1: for us. I'm not in the feel good movie, frankly,
Speaker 1: that we've been that is Jerry Jones on one oh
Speaker 1: five three of the Fan was Sean at RJ he
Speaker 1: does it every Tuesday at eight thirty pm Central Standard Time. Okay,
Speaker 1: so Jerry's trying to make sense of Hey, you are
Speaker 1: the first place. Jerry's that good enough for you? And
Speaker 1: Jerry said, no, No, that does not work for Jerry Jones.
Speaker 1: Jerry Jones also said something that made me raise an
Speaker 1: eyebrow and said I wanted to bring that to you guys.
Speaker 1: On right here on the player's lines, he was asked
Speaker 1: about Mike Nolan, and Jerry Jones said, quote, I'm okay
Speaker 1: with Mike in quote, So, Barry Church, Danny mccraige, you
Speaker 1: tell me, do you agree with Jerry Jones? Are you
Speaker 1: okay with defensive coordinator Mike No, we're getting a little
Speaker 1: we're getting a little echo U but uh but uh,
Speaker 1: absolutely not. And Jerry isn't either. But I mean, what
Speaker 1: is he supposed to say today? Uh? You know that
Speaker 1: they got a game coming up, and you know he
Speaker 1: wanted to try to, you know, keep us, keep the
Speaker 1: team is together as much as possible. I'm sure he
Speaker 1: knows what's going on in the locker room as well
Speaker 1: and how his players feel about the defensive coordinator. But
Speaker 1: this just lets us know that he's not about the
Speaker 1: fire arm this week. So he's okay with them, but
Speaker 1: he doesn't he doesn't feel comfortable about it. So okay,
Speaker 1: gives you another week or two, But I don't see
Speaker 1: this going going much further. Maybe maybe week nine if
Speaker 1: they keep playing this way. Oh okay, okay with it?
Speaker 1: To me, okay is being like you're you're always in it,
Speaker 1: Like your team is all ways in it, no matter what.
Speaker 1: Your defense gives you a chance, no matter what, every game,
Speaker 1: but you just simply fall apart at the end, or
Speaker 1: you just can't get it done at the end. That's
Speaker 1: being okay with it. This to me, it's just downright ugly.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's one thing to just get blown out
Speaker 1: just because you're you're just not their talented talent wise.
Speaker 1: But it's another thing where you just show this effort
Speaker 1: on tape consistently weekend and week out. That's something that
Speaker 1: you can't be okay with that because it's not like
Speaker 1: it's not like this defense is just devoid of talent.
Speaker 1: I mean, even though they're not playing up to what
Speaker 1: the what their caliber play is, they still have guys
Speaker 1: on this defensive ball club that can make plays. But
Speaker 1: the effort is just not there. And we've seen it consistently.
Speaker 1: We've seen it from fifty four, We've seen it from
Speaker 1: twenty five. We've seen it from this whole defensive line,
Speaker 1: especially ninety five. Don't let me, don't get me started
Speaker 1: on dump anyways, this is just a problem to me.
Speaker 1: This is a huge problem because it looks like to
Speaker 1: me that the players aren't respected or aren't getting involved
Speaker 1: with the coaches as far as when you know what's
Speaker 1: comfortable for them and how to approach the coaches. So
Speaker 1: for me, this is a problem, And tell us fix,
Speaker 1: we're gonna just continue seeing guys run up and down
Speaker 1: the field on our defense. Hey, come into a Cowboys
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Speaker 1: games are on the road. They are at Washington, they
Speaker 1: are at Philadelphia. The Cowboys were in first place. So mccraye,
Speaker 1: if you're in this locker room, where do you go?
Speaker 1: Where do you go? Right here on a Tuesday? Absolutely nowhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, hey, listen, it's really nowhere for you to go.
Speaker 1: They've been sitting in this stink for what five weeks now,
Speaker 1: six weeks now, and you know, I'm sure they've tried everything.
Speaker 1: Like I said, Church, you know how it is once
Speaker 1: you have those teams that go through those players only
Speaker 1: meetings and they do it two or three times and
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, nothing ever changes. That's just
Speaker 1: where the season is going. And just like we talked
Speaker 1: about at the beginning of the season, if you can't
Speaker 1: stop to run at the beginning and you're not physical,
Speaker 1: you can't turn yourself into a physical team that stops
Speaker 1: to run. So you're gonna like see this type of
Speaker 1: stuff the entire season. It's nothing for them to do.
Speaker 1: They just got to kind of, you know, suck it
Speaker 1: up and player as hard as they can. And they
Speaker 1: can listen to everybody talk about the effort and the
Speaker 1: effort that they're not giving, and they still aren't doing it.
Speaker 1: The only thing that they could change is how much
Speaker 1: effort they give out there on the field. So you know,
Speaker 1: hopefully we see it. But you know, if you watch
Speaker 1: Jalen and I hate to keep calling them out, but
Speaker 1: if you watch them, one of the guys on the
Speaker 1: captain on the team that said that they're going to
Speaker 1: change this and they just want to focus on sprinting
Speaker 1: to the ball, and then you turn on the film
Speaker 1: and you see them not doing it on big plays
Speaker 1: that lead the touchdowns. Then you know it's confusing and
Speaker 1: you just have to say that, you know, they're not
Speaker 1: really walking the walk, they just talking. Yeah, look, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you where they need to go. They praying right now.
Speaker 1: Wednesday can come a lot faster because right now, I mean,
Speaker 1: look after taking that l on Monday, they're probably in
Speaker 1: there right now breaking down film and everybody's getting cussed
Speaker 1: out left and right. So they the only thing you
Speaker 1: can do is just hopeful that the next week, that
Speaker 1: Wednesday comes fast because you're onto a new team. You
Speaker 1: put that film behind you, and you just try to
Speaker 1: build momentum forward because right now, like mccraiy said, man,
Speaker 1: that they're stuck in this funk. They've been in this
Speaker 1: funk for about, like you said, four or five weeks,
Speaker 1: and they're stuck in it, and right now the only
Speaker 1: way to get out of it is trying to move
Speaker 1: forward and onto that next week. But to me, I
Speaker 1: don't know where you go. I don't know where you go,
Speaker 1: but you gotta do something, and something gotta change. Church, Church, Listen,
Speaker 1: you gotta get up. You gotta get that up. Ain't
Speaker 1: nobody getting cursed out. I don't even think this coaching
Speaker 1: staff does that type of stuff. I don't think that
Speaker 1: the players are held accountable in meetings on days after
Speaker 1: the game to where they have to like worry about
Speaker 1: going in there and watching their self played below average
Speaker 1: on film. I don't think that that is the case,
Speaker 1: because as if it was, you wouldn't see this type
Speaker 1: of stuff being put on film every week. It's it's
Speaker 1: not possible for you to say, man, I played like crap,
Speaker 1: and I got to go in here on Tuesday in
Speaker 1: front of the entire team and watch this, and here
Speaker 1: a coach let me know that this is not the
Speaker 1: standard here at the Dallas Cowboys. That type of stuff
Speaker 1: doesn't happen. And my bad news. One more thing, Church,
Speaker 1: I heard y'all talking about Zeke and the fumbles, and
Speaker 1: you know, on special teams and the coach always says
Speaker 1: on kickoff return, if the kickoff return to fumbels the ball,
Speaker 1: they're also blaming it on the person who missed their block.
Speaker 1: And I think he was still still on that block
Speaker 1: when Buddha Baker, the dude had the guy block and
Speaker 1: he starts standing still like a damn statue. Doug move,
Speaker 1: You're supposed to finish this guy and the guy retraces.
Speaker 1: It makes make this is like something that this is
Speaker 1: the epitome of our team right now. If you watch that,
Speaker 1: you say, what do you think he had practiced? Like?
Speaker 1: The play ain't over like ze But what you're doing,
Speaker 1: you're supposed to be pancaking this dude. This is a dB.
Speaker 1: What are you doing? And to get back and to
Speaker 1: get back to Zeke man, look take them sleeves off. Man. Look,
Speaker 1: By'm not doing you any justice right now. Man, take
Speaker 1: them things off. Let that football touch that bear skin
Speaker 1: at the worst. At the worst you can get a
Speaker 1: little bit more grip on there as the balls falling out. Man,
Speaker 1: take off them sleeves. Man, they ain't doing you know, justice,
Speaker 1: the bass slipping in and out of them things. It's
Speaker 1: just costing the team right now. Man, I'll end the
Speaker 1: show on the positive milk Guys, I did pick up
Speaker 1: Christian Kirk in my fantasy team. Man, you need to
Speaker 1: end the show by saying what answering the question do
Speaker 1: they need to move on from mccarth. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 1: you need to end the show with. But we already
Speaker 1: know what you know. Can you give us something? You've
Speaker 1: been ducking the Dodger for weeks now on Big Quarter,
Speaker 1: didn't you didn't give us your milk carton. You're not
Speaker 1: giving us that now all of a sudden. He's the
Speaker 1: same as JG. Because you want to try to keep
Speaker 1: keep the litmus testing measurary the same, which doesn't make
Speaker 1: any sense. But but you ended off with Christian Kirk.
Speaker 1: By the way, churches in the last place in fantasy
Speaker 1: in our league. So that's why he want to move
Speaker 1: for you got to give us something. You gotta give
Speaker 1: us something new. We goodness cracis and you know what,
Speaker 1: give it to you next time because we are past
Speaker 1: the hour and the show is over and our producer,
Speaker 1: Chris Bean does a lot of Cowboys podcasts here, so
Speaker 1: we can't hold him from moving on and give this show.
Speaker 1: So that's the Plans Lounge on a Tuesday moning on
Speaker 1: a Tuesday morning. Um, but we just moaned through the
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