1 00:00:05,600 --> 00:00:07,920 Speaker 1: Is this a great game or what? And our guest 2 00:00:08,039 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: this week is our dear friend Scott Bradley, former major 3 00:00:12,240 --> 00:00:16,720 Speaker 1: league catcher, the baseball coach at Princeton, and one of 4 00:00:16,760 --> 00:00:20,040 Speaker 1: the older brothers of my dear friend Jeff Bradley, a 5 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:24,280 Speaker 1: former colleague of mine at Sports Illustrated and other places. 6 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 2: Scott, good to have you. This is my son Jeff. 7 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:30,639 Speaker 2: What a great honor for it is for me. And 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,160 Speaker 2: you know, listen to to you speak. The apple clearly 9 00:00:34,200 --> 00:00:36,680 Speaker 2: didn't fall very far when you listen to those voices, 10 00:00:36,720 --> 00:00:38,040 Speaker 2: because it's exactly the same. 11 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:41,240 Speaker 3: Well so did our IQ. Neither of us are making 12 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 3: it into Princeton. Let me just say. 13 00:00:44,320 --> 00:00:47,640 Speaker 1: Both of us are really short, Scott, but that all works. Listen, 14 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: before we get to your career and Princeton and everything, 15 00:00:51,640 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: you told me a couple stories about the first time 16 00:00:55,320 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: you saw Ken Griffy Junior play the game, when he 17 00:00:58,840 --> 00:01:02,640 Speaker 1: came to the the Kingdome to take batting practice after 18 00:01:02,720 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: being the number one pick in the country. Tell us 19 00:01:05,720 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: about what it was like that day Junior showed up 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:09,600 Speaker 1: for the first time. 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 2: Well, it's interesting when teams signed their first round draft 22 00:01:14,280 --> 00:01:15,800 Speaker 2: picks and you know they bring him to the home 23 00:01:15,880 --> 00:01:19,720 Speaker 2: stadium when they sign, they get to take batting practice 24 00:01:19,720 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 2: and all that. And I had a little bit of interaction. 25 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:25,760 Speaker 2: I played with Ken Griffey Senior when I was with 26 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 2: the Yankees, right, So I played with Senior with the Yankees. 27 00:01:29,840 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 2: Became a terrific mentor of mine. I mean, really taught 28 00:01:32,520 --> 00:01:36,199 Speaker 2: me a lot about the game. So when we signed Junior, 29 00:01:36,240 --> 00:01:39,679 Speaker 2: of course, everybody followed him through Cincinnati through the youth ranks, 30 00:01:40,400 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 2: and when we signed him, you know, we brought him 31 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 2: into Seattle and a big commotion, brought him out, let 32 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,680 Speaker 2: him take some batting practice, had his hat on backwards already, 33 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 2: So walked out with his hat on backwards, and I 34 00:01:52,520 --> 00:01:55,480 Speaker 2: can vividly remember just standing next to Harrold Reynolds and 35 00:01:55,520 --> 00:02:00,520 Speaker 2: Alvin Davis and the whole turtle. The backstop was was 36 00:02:00,560 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 2: surrounded by the press, and Junior stood up there and 37 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 2: like where most young kids go up and immediately just 38 00:02:07,120 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 2: start trying to pull and yank and hit the ball 39 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 2: in the seats, Junior just sort of got in there 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,240 Speaker 2: with the smile of his and just started to hit 41 00:02:15,280 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: one line drive after another into left field. You know, 42 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 2: it was like he was a twenty year veteran, just 43 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: stroking these beautiful balls into left field, left center field, 44 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 2: not trying to do too much, stepped out, towed off 45 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:30,400 Speaker 2: a little bit, answered a couple of questions. Then he 46 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 2: started working the middle of the field. So he just 47 00:02:32,520 --> 00:02:35,639 Speaker 2: stood there and started hitting you know, line drives, you know, backup, 48 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 2: back up the middle. And Alvin and Harold and I 49 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:42,360 Speaker 2: were just shaking our head, saying, man, he's way mature 50 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,560 Speaker 2: beyond his years. Look what he's just, he's not trying 51 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:47,960 Speaker 2: to do too much. Then he, you know, next round, 52 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:50,799 Speaker 2: towels off, hits a few balls, line drives into right field, 53 00:02:50,800 --> 00:02:52,400 Speaker 2: and then he towels off for the last time. And 54 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:54,639 Speaker 2: then he proceeds to hit one four hundred foot home 55 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,160 Speaker 2: run after another, rattling the seats in the in the 56 00:02:58,200 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 2: second level of the of the Kingdom. And I remember 57 00:03:02,000 --> 00:03:05,840 Speaker 2: Alvin saying, boy, it's amazing young kid. He looks like 58 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,919 Speaker 2: he belongs already. And I said, well, look at the pedigree. 59 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 2: I mean with his dad, the big Red Machine, Johnny Bench, 60 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,399 Speaker 2: Pete Rose, Joe Morgan. I said, why would he think 61 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:18,480 Speaker 2: anything about being around Harold Reynolds, Scott Bradley and Alvin 62 00:03:18,560 --> 00:03:23,960 Speaker 2: Davis just such a talent. And here's just one last story. 63 00:03:24,000 --> 00:03:26,320 Speaker 2: I remember. So the year he made the team out 64 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:30,320 Speaker 2: of spring training, I remember asking my dad about it 65 00:03:30,400 --> 00:03:33,080 Speaker 2: about a month end of the season, and he asked 66 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: my dad. I said, Okay, you saw Willie Mays come up, 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:39,360 Speaker 2: you saw Mickey Mantle come up, Henry Aaron, how do 68 00:03:39,440 --> 00:03:43,520 Speaker 2: you compare Junior to those to those guys? And my 69 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 2: dad thought about it for a second tim and then 70 00:03:45,680 --> 00:03:47,600 Speaker 2: he just he looked at me and goes, I can't 71 00:03:47,640 --> 00:03:51,760 Speaker 2: believe I'm gonna say this. He goes, Junior's better. He said, 72 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:54,400 Speaker 2: all of those guys had stretches early in their career 73 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:57,680 Speaker 2: where they were overmatched. You know, Mickey Mantle could always 74 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: bunt for a hit. Willie May's started out what over 75 00:04:00,080 --> 00:04:03,440 Speaker 2: twenty over twenty one something like that. He goes, I've 76 00:04:03,480 --> 00:04:06,560 Speaker 2: just never seen this kid overmatched by anybody. He's not 77 00:04:06,560 --> 00:04:09,400 Speaker 2: getting hits all the time. And I thought it was 78 00:04:09,400 --> 00:04:11,360 Speaker 2: a really good analogy to what my dad said, because 79 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 2: he never was from day one. You know, he was 80 00:04:14,320 --> 00:04:16,040 Speaker 2: never overmatched by a pitcher. 81 00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: Right And you told me that first full spring training 82 00:04:19,160 --> 00:04:22,720 Speaker 1: after his first year in the minor league. They didn't want. 83 00:04:22,520 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: Him to make the team. 84 00:04:23,720 --> 00:04:26,360 Speaker 1: They thought he was too young, so they matched him 85 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:29,479 Speaker 1: up against all the good left handers in the Cactus League, 86 00:04:29,760 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: and he hit all of them two and made the 87 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:32,720 Speaker 1: club correct. 88 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 2: You know, one hundred percent. They started out the year. 89 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:36,440 Speaker 2: You know, a lot of the older guys aren't ready 90 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:38,679 Speaker 2: to play yet, so Junior got a chance to play, 91 00:04:39,320 --> 00:04:41,200 Speaker 2: you know, quite a bit in our first you know, 92 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:44,960 Speaker 2: ten fifteen games in spring training. He was getting all 93 00:04:45,000 --> 00:04:46,760 Speaker 2: his hits, but most of his hits were coming against 94 00:04:46,800 --> 00:04:48,440 Speaker 2: you know, minor league guys and some of the big 95 00:04:48,560 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: league guys who would be out there for an inning 96 00:04:50,800 --> 00:04:53,280 Speaker 2: just trying to get some work in. And he started 97 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: to get some press. You know, he started to get 98 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 2: a lot of attention. So I think the Mariners at 99 00:04:58,320 --> 00:05:00,560 Speaker 2: that point panicked a little bit. I said, okay, we'll 100 00:05:00,600 --> 00:05:02,480 Speaker 2: show this kid what the big leagues are really like. 101 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:07,320 Speaker 2: So they ran him out there every day against everybody, 102 00:05:07,400 --> 00:05:11,160 Speaker 2: the lefties, the righties. I mean, it was just unbelievable. 103 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 2: They were hoping that he was going to have a 104 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 2: cold stretch. Never never happened. Finally, not only was he 105 00:05:18,360 --> 00:05:19,760 Speaker 2: the best player on our team, he was the best 106 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 2: player in the Cactus League, and we had no chance 107 00:05:22,120 --> 00:05:23,960 Speaker 2: or no other choice but to have him on our team. 108 00:05:23,960 --> 00:05:26,520 Speaker 2: He was he was that good, Scott. 109 00:05:26,560 --> 00:05:28,480 Speaker 3: We have so much to talk to you about, so 110 00:05:29,000 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 3: it's it's even hard to think about where to go next. 111 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 3: But our next episode, which will air tomorrow, we're going 112 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:38,280 Speaker 3: to be recording from Povich Field. But that's the Big 113 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 3: Train and the cal Ripken Wood back College Summer League. 114 00:05:42,360 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 3: How important for you is it to have your players 115 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,239 Speaker 3: playing in leagues like this, to have college players playing 116 00:05:50,720 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 3: throughout the season and then in the summer, and it's 117 00:05:54,040 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 3: just something special. 118 00:05:54,880 --> 00:05:57,640 Speaker 2: I grew up going to Big Train games and it's magical, 119 00:05:58,360 --> 00:06:01,039 Speaker 2: it really is, And it's such a unique experience for 120 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:04,120 Speaker 2: our kids and the summer leagues, just like everything else 121 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:07,080 Speaker 2: with college athletics, with the minor league systems, and now 122 00:06:07,080 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 2: we're really changing the impact of the draft and the 123 00:06:10,680 --> 00:06:13,880 Speaker 2: timing of the draft has really made a big difference 124 00:06:13,880 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 2: in some of these leagues. A lot of them have 125 00:06:16,480 --> 00:06:19,280 Speaker 2: a tough time fielding players after the draft because at 126 00:06:19,279 --> 00:06:22,279 Speaker 2: that point players are ready to you know, ready to 127 00:06:22,279 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 2: head home. Agents and advisors are running the show for 128 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 2: a lot of these players. So if a pitcher has 129 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 2: a really good outing, lights up the radar gun, the 130 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,280 Speaker 2: advisory will tell the guy, look, time to go home. 131 00:06:33,279 --> 00:06:37,520 Speaker 2: That's it. So but for our kids we try to 132 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:40,320 Speaker 2: it's an amazing experience. It makes the rest of their 133 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 2: college baseball that much better because every time we go 134 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,000 Speaker 2: play against another team, Hey, I played with that guy 135 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:51,800 Speaker 2: last summer, we played against him, you know. So for 136 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:54,159 Speaker 2: the Ivy League kids especially to go play with the 137 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:58,200 Speaker 2: Power five schools or kids to be able to interact 138 00:06:58,200 --> 00:07:01,600 Speaker 2: with all those guys, that really make their college experience 139 00:07:02,440 --> 00:07:05,719 Speaker 2: that much better. The Big Train, you know, really holds 140 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:09,960 Speaker 2: a special place. Tomorrow. Bruce Adams, who's a Princeton olum, 141 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:13,760 Speaker 2: you know, founded the Big Train, started the whole Povich Field. 142 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 2: Mattie Bowman, who it just got called up by the 143 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:20,520 Speaker 2: Orioles again, he's been sort of up and down with them, 144 00:07:20,960 --> 00:07:23,160 Speaker 2: you know, played for the Big Train. One of my 145 00:07:23,200 --> 00:07:25,880 Speaker 2: favorite players we ever had, Pat Boren my first couple 146 00:07:25,880 --> 00:07:29,280 Speaker 2: of years, played for the Big Train. So it's a 147 00:07:29,360 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 2: really unique team. It's some history to it, and so 148 00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,720 Speaker 2: anytime we can send somebody there, we try to. 149 00:07:36,760 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: Scott, you've the word play an awful lot just now. 150 00:07:40,080 --> 00:07:44,160 Speaker 1: How important is it? And it sounds ridiculous for guys 151 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 1: who are in high school going to college to play 152 00:07:47,320 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: during the summer as opposed to maybe just going to 153 00:07:50,960 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: the cage or going to the weight room. 154 00:07:54,160 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 2: Playing is all that matters. Am I right about this? Timmy? 155 00:07:58,200 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: You're so right? And I feel bad that some of 156 00:08:01,480 --> 00:08:06,440 Speaker 2: these kids are just being you know, misled. It's the 157 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: fun part. What's better than summer having four or five 158 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 2: games a week? You know. I can remember playing on 159 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 2: three different teams in the summertime and running from one 160 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,560 Speaker 2: team to another and changing uniforms, you know, in the car. 161 00:08:17,120 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 2: And they weren't all these high profile travel leagues that 162 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 2: were semi pro leagues. It was American Legion and it 163 00:08:23,680 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 2: was anywhere I could find a game. I was I 164 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:29,440 Speaker 2: was going to go. I do a lot of showcases 165 00:08:29,440 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 2: and camps you know, you know, around the country in 166 00:08:31,880 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 2: the summer to recruit. And the first question that I 167 00:08:34,760 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 2: asked the kids a lot of these have meet and 168 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:38,040 Speaker 2: greets where you can kind of say hi to the 169 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 2: kids and everything. And the first thing I asked them, 170 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:42,040 Speaker 2: I go, Hey, the camps are great, You're gonna put 171 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:45,040 Speaker 2: yourself in front of the coaches and stuff, but what 172 00:08:45,040 --> 00:08:47,560 Speaker 2: what team are you playing on Well, I'm not playing 173 00:08:47,640 --> 00:08:49,400 Speaker 2: on a team, you know, I'm just gonna go to 174 00:08:49,440 --> 00:08:51,280 Speaker 2: camps and I'm gonna go to showcases. And I'm like, 175 00:08:51,800 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 2: don't you want to be with your friends? Don't you 176 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 2: want to play games? You know? You you train all 177 00:08:57,120 --> 00:08:59,880 Speaker 2: the time, there's there's a time to play, and you 178 00:08:59,920 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 2: know what, you can train and learn your skills and everything, 179 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 2: but the only way to become better is you got 180 00:09:04,320 --> 00:09:06,480 Speaker 2: to be able to put it into games. And that's 181 00:09:06,520 --> 00:09:10,720 Speaker 2: the fun part. You know, they're our baseball mortality is 182 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,480 Speaker 2: in front of us all the time. Right, at any point, 183 00:09:13,480 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 2: a high school kid can't play in college, a college 184 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:19,199 Speaker 2: kid can't play in pro ball. So to give up 185 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 2: games and playing and competing to train when the end 186 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:27,800 Speaker 2: may be coming sooner than you think, right, So you're 187 00:09:27,840 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 2: just training, training, training instead of playing. You get plenty 188 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: of practice and reps when you play games as opposed 189 00:09:34,520 --> 00:09:38,880 Speaker 2: to And again, it doesn't have to be your parents 190 00:09:38,880 --> 00:09:42,160 Speaker 2: flying all over the United States, right, it doesn't have 191 00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,920 Speaker 2: to be all. It just needs to be consistent games 192 00:09:45,440 --> 00:09:47,760 Speaker 2: where you can take batting practice before the game, you 193 00:09:47,800 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 2: can take infield outfield before the game, and where the 194 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 2: game matters you know, so many of these tournaments that 195 00:09:53,520 --> 00:09:57,559 Speaker 2: the kids go to now they have like twelve man lineups, 196 00:09:57,600 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 2: they have EHS xhs DA. You know, they have run 197 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:06,440 Speaker 2: rules in effect. So you may have go to one 198 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: of these events and your team has one game and 199 00:10:08,520 --> 00:10:10,439 Speaker 2: you might play a four inning game because there's a 200 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: run rule. You might get one at bet and no 201 00:10:12,679 --> 00:10:16,199 Speaker 2: ground balls, and you're five hundred miles from home and 202 00:10:16,400 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 2: that's your day of baseball. 203 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: That doesn't make sense, Scott. When you went to high 204 00:10:20,200 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 1: school and then when you went to Carolina, the goal 205 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,920 Speaker 1: before the season was we want to win the state championship. 206 00:10:25,960 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 1: We wanted we want to win the NCAA championship, and 207 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:32,559 Speaker 1: we've kind of lost that. Like winning for your school, 208 00:10:32,679 --> 00:10:34,280 Speaker 1: for your town, for your team. 209 00:10:34,320 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 2: Correct it is. And I had a chance to go 210 00:10:39,160 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: out and see a state tournament UH in California a 211 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:45,280 Speaker 2: couple of weeks ago with a couple of our UH 212 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,800 Speaker 2: a couple of our recruits, and it was so refreshing 213 00:10:48,840 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 2: for me to be able to go watch UH state 214 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: tournament games with some pressure, some some fans in the stands. 215 00:10:57,040 --> 00:10:59,120 Speaker 2: It was all about winning, right, and it was so 216 00:10:59,240 --> 00:11:02,600 Speaker 2: much fun to watch and to observe the players in 217 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,080 Speaker 2: that type of a game, as opposed to going to 218 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:09,040 Speaker 2: you know, a big tournament, where as soon as the 219 00:11:09,080 --> 00:11:11,920 Speaker 2: game's over, the coaches are rattling the kids up and saying, okay, 220 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:14,839 Speaker 2: that game's over. Head over to field seven right now, 221 00:11:14,880 --> 00:11:17,680 Speaker 2: because the name start. The next game starts, and we'll 222 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 2: pick up the lineup with who just made the last out? 223 00:11:21,000 --> 00:11:25,000 Speaker 2: You know. So, you know, when a kid tells me 224 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,840 Speaker 2: he's not playing high school baseball, it really is is 225 00:11:27,840 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 2: a red flag. I don't care whether the team is 226 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:32,280 Speaker 2: good or bad, or it's a bad program. There's still 227 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,679 Speaker 2: something to be said about having to compete for the 228 00:11:36,360 --> 00:11:39,560 Speaker 2: name on the front of the jersey, your school, your friends, 229 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:42,240 Speaker 2: even if you happen to be the best player on 230 00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:44,360 Speaker 2: the team, A little bit of responsibility that you have 231 00:11:44,440 --> 00:11:48,319 Speaker 2: to come through, that you have to make plays. Yeah, 232 00:11:48,520 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: it's it's desperately missed. There's so much of this just 233 00:11:52,600 --> 00:11:54,400 Speaker 2: people looking at right, what are we going to do 234 00:11:54,440 --> 00:11:56,000 Speaker 2: to get this guy to the next level, And all 235 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:57,880 Speaker 2: of a sudden you miss out on the fun and 236 00:11:57,960 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 2: the experiences that you have, you know, when you should 237 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,920 Speaker 2: be playing and enjoying it. 238 00:12:02,920 --> 00:12:04,880 Speaker 3: It's got you know, my dad and I were talking 239 00:12:04,920 --> 00:12:09,160 Speaker 3: about you ahead of the interview, and he talked about 240 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:12,080 Speaker 3: how you find it so important that little leaguers go 241 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: up there and they swing the bat. I was a 242 00:12:14,640 --> 00:12:17,920 Speaker 3: little league umpire for a very long time. My favorite 243 00:12:18,000 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 3: job I ever had, and I would always tell coaches, 244 00:12:20,920 --> 00:12:24,440 Speaker 3: especially when we're talking like twelve U ten, you like 245 00:12:24,960 --> 00:12:26,720 Speaker 3: me tell them at the home play, Hey, I want 246 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,160 Speaker 3: to call strikes. I want these kids to swing. I 247 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 3: don't want a million walks. Listen, these kids aren't gonna 248 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 3: throw strikes every day. Let's have our kids swinging up there. 249 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,640 Speaker 3: It's what I always used to tell coaches. That's an 250 00:12:37,679 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 3: attitude that you think is so important because that's getting 251 00:12:40,440 --> 00:12:42,880 Speaker 3: reps right there. We shouldn't be drawing walks and ten. 252 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:46,320 Speaker 2: You no, And it's hard because you know, we still 253 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:50,280 Speaker 2: wrestle right now in youth baseball with you know, from 254 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 2: t ball to coach pitch to machine pitch to then 255 00:12:54,960 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 2: we let the kids pitch. And that's that first year 256 00:12:59,200 --> 00:13:01,320 Speaker 2: when the kids are pitch, when the games are hard 257 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,240 Speaker 2: and we lose a lot of the kids, they get bored. 258 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,320 Speaker 2: So to have the kids up there with the idea 259 00:13:06,400 --> 00:13:09,000 Speaker 2: be ready right and may be the only pitch that 260 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:12,079 Speaker 2: you can swing at, you know, the entire time. You know. 261 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 2: The last thing we want to tell a young kid 262 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:16,800 Speaker 2: at that age is, you know, have a good eye. 263 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,720 Speaker 2: You know, have a good eye, because they may not 264 00:13:19,760 --> 00:13:22,120 Speaker 2: get anything to swing for the next for the next week. 265 00:13:22,600 --> 00:13:25,640 Speaker 2: That's the stage in baseball that really really makes it 266 00:13:25,679 --> 00:13:30,280 Speaker 2: makes it difficult, you know, So we have to continue 267 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,000 Speaker 2: to create ways. You know, I love even with my 268 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,199 Speaker 2: team now and my brother Jeff preaches us all the time. 269 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 2: One of the best practices we have is when we 270 00:13:38,920 --> 00:13:42,520 Speaker 2: have a coach pitch game, right I'll throw BP or 271 00:13:42,559 --> 00:13:44,640 Speaker 2: my assistant will throw. Every ball is put in play, 272 00:13:44,679 --> 00:13:47,120 Speaker 2: we get live defense, we get live cutoff in relays, 273 00:13:47,760 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 2: we get live base running. Outfielders have to track balls down, 274 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,600 Speaker 2: not from a fungo or a machine, but off the bat. 275 00:13:55,240 --> 00:13:57,839 Speaker 2: And when these little league teams and the youth kids 276 00:13:57,840 --> 00:14:00,720 Speaker 2: are playing, they should have two or three coach pitch 277 00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:04,920 Speaker 2: games for every for every kid pitch game, just so 278 00:14:04,960 --> 00:14:07,240 Speaker 2: they get used to the reps and out there and 279 00:14:07,280 --> 00:14:10,520 Speaker 2: out there playing. The other thing I suggest for towns is, 280 00:14:11,280 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 2: you know, get a sock net, you know, because every 281 00:14:13,320 --> 00:14:15,959 Speaker 2: kid wants to try to pitch so let's give the 282 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 2: kids some incentive. Get a sock net and tell the 283 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:20,960 Speaker 2: kid you're not allowed to pitch until you show me 284 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:24,320 Speaker 2: you can throw six out of ten into the into 285 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 2: the net. So you're gonna give the kids some incentive 286 00:14:27,360 --> 00:14:31,000 Speaker 2: to go home with and practice. Knowing that boy I 287 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 2: really want to pitch, but you know so many of 288 00:14:32,560 --> 00:14:34,120 Speaker 2: the kids they want to pitch. So you let somebody 289 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 2: go out and pitch, you know, because okay, we're gonna 290 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:40,160 Speaker 2: let everybody pitch and they can't throw strikes, and for 291 00:14:40,280 --> 00:14:43,680 Speaker 2: that inning, everybody just stands there and nothing happens. So, 292 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:46,680 Speaker 2: you know, I recommend for the towns set up a net. 293 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,040 Speaker 2: Tell the kids, okay, when you can throw six out 294 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 2: of ten into the net, which is the general guidelines 295 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 2: of a strike zone, go ahead. Then you can pitch 296 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 2: in a game. But just to let kids arbitrarily go 297 00:14:59,160 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 2: out and pitch, it makes it tough for everybody else, 298 00:15:01,960 --> 00:15:04,120 Speaker 2: including us that have to watch it. 299 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:06,960 Speaker 1: You talk about getting bored, You've got to make sure 300 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:11,000 Speaker 1: these kids aren't bored, because baseball, when you don't understand 301 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:13,200 Speaker 1: how to play, it can be boring. You told me 302 00:15:13,240 --> 00:15:15,320 Speaker 1: once with the little kids, you would have them run 303 00:15:15,760 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: pass patterns like they were wide receivers and you would 304 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:21,400 Speaker 1: throw a ball out there and they would learn to 305 00:15:21,480 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: go run under that ball, catch it like this. Whatever. 306 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: How important is it to come up with little inventive 307 00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:31,160 Speaker 1: games in order to keep the kids engaged rather than 308 00:15:31,240 --> 00:15:33,640 Speaker 1: just standing out in right field waiting for a ball 309 00:15:33,680 --> 00:15:34,440 Speaker 1: to come their way. 310 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, the practices are way more important than the games 311 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,240 Speaker 2: for the you know, seven, eight, nine, ten year old kids. 312 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 2: And you have to make them so that at the 313 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:44,760 Speaker 2: end of the practice retired. They should never be standing around. 314 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 2: It should be all about getting reps. It shouldn't be 315 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 2: about one kid getting swings and everybody else standing around. 316 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: You know, tennis balls are a great device because you know, 317 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:54,760 Speaker 2: they're cheap and you can usually have a lot of 318 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:58,320 Speaker 2: them around. You know, have the kids running around throwing 319 00:15:58,360 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 2: balls to them. They can make diving catches. Is showing 320 00:16:01,280 --> 00:16:03,800 Speaker 2: kids the benefits of what it's like to throw a 321 00:16:03,800 --> 00:16:06,800 Speaker 2: ball off a wall so that when they're home, letting 322 00:16:06,840 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 2: them know that it only takes one person to practice 323 00:16:09,440 --> 00:16:12,960 Speaker 2: to practice baseball, so that when there's a ball thrown 324 00:16:13,040 --> 00:16:15,040 Speaker 2: up on a roof of the house, it hits and 325 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,800 Speaker 2: comes off, you catch it right anytime you can have 326 00:16:17,840 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 2: a glove on your hand and a ball in your 327 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 2: hand and throwing it and stuff like that, it's that 328 00:16:23,160 --> 00:16:25,400 Speaker 2: much better. And we have to try to create environments 329 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,120 Speaker 2: where the kids want to go out and do things 330 00:16:27,120 --> 00:16:28,680 Speaker 2: and basketball kids go out all the time and just 331 00:16:28,720 --> 00:16:31,120 Speaker 2: shoot hoops. I'm gonna go shoot hoops. We have to 332 00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,360 Speaker 2: find you more kids that want to go out and 333 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: play catch, play five hundred, play Pepper. I talk to 334 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:39,680 Speaker 2: my kids about Pepper at Princeton and half of them 335 00:16:39,680 --> 00:16:43,000 Speaker 2: have never played before, which is criminal. 336 00:16:43,720 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 1: We played Pepper, We did hot bogs, we did five hundred. 337 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,680 Speaker 1: Literally every day. I threw more balls off of our 338 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,040 Speaker 1: house than any person in the world, no doubt. 339 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and for us growing up. Dad, in my childhood home, 340 00:16:55,280 --> 00:16:57,880 Speaker 3: you remember, we had the two garage doors separated by 341 00:16:58,360 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 3: like a brick divider, and I like to think it 342 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 3: was a perfect width of a strike zone. But to 343 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 3: your point, Scott, what we would do was I would 344 00:17:07,359 --> 00:17:10,440 Speaker 3: pitch to myself and then I would play second base 345 00:17:10,520 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 3: based upon how it bounced off the wall. And trust me, 346 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:15,919 Speaker 3: it bounced off a lot of strange ways because I 347 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:17,360 Speaker 3: was not a very good pitcher. 348 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:18,679 Speaker 2: But Scott, I want to. 349 00:17:18,840 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 3: You brought up your brother Jeff, and my dad and 350 00:17:21,640 --> 00:17:24,200 Speaker 3: I have like a lot of baseball guys an obsession 351 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 3: with baseball gloves. And your brother he now makes baseball gloves. 352 00:17:30,040 --> 00:17:33,240 Speaker 2: Right so right here at Bradley Baseball Gloves. That's that's 353 00:17:33,320 --> 00:17:34,960 Speaker 2: Radley's baseball glove. 354 00:17:35,119 --> 00:17:36,640 Speaker 1: Explain the genesis of that. 355 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:37,399 Speaker 3: You know what. 356 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:39,679 Speaker 2: So, so my brother Jeff has really come up with 357 00:17:39,720 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 2: a great idea. He was involved in another glove company 358 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:45,520 Speaker 2: at some point, as you mentioned, Tim, he was a 359 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 2: writer for ESPN New York Daily News, Norkstar Ledger did 360 00:17:51,440 --> 00:17:54,560 Speaker 2: a lot of feature articles when sports when when ESPN, 361 00:17:54,600 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 2: the magazine you know, first started. So he loves baseball. 362 00:17:58,880 --> 00:18:02,119 Speaker 2: He's pretty creative, and all of a sudden he started 363 00:18:02,119 --> 00:18:04,199 Speaker 2: looking around. He had two boys that both played you know, 364 00:18:04,240 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 2: played ball, and he realized that nobody makes a good 365 00:18:07,760 --> 00:18:11,760 Speaker 2: kid's glove. You know, they make the plastic ones that 366 00:18:11,800 --> 00:18:15,280 Speaker 2: you can bring in the bathtub that literally can't catch anything. 367 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 2: And then you have the parents that will go out 368 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:20,119 Speaker 2: and for an eight year old kid will go spend 369 00:18:20,119 --> 00:18:23,560 Speaker 2: five hundred dollars on an eight two thousand that just 370 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:27,359 Speaker 2: doesn't work. They're great gloves, you know, they're ready. So 371 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:31,480 Speaker 2: my brother created this line of gloves called Bradley Baseball 372 00:18:31,520 --> 00:18:34,920 Speaker 2: Gloves and people can go online and search it. And 373 00:18:34,960 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 2: the gloves are geared towards six to twelve year olds. 374 00:18:38,080 --> 00:18:42,640 Speaker 2: They're geared for smaller hands, high quality. They break in 375 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:48,280 Speaker 2: really easy, very forgiving, and it's his niche. I mean, 376 00:18:48,320 --> 00:18:50,479 Speaker 2: people will come to him that use the glove all 377 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 2: along and say, well, can you make a glove now 378 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:54,800 Speaker 2: as I get older, and my brother Jeffel say nope, 379 00:18:54,840 --> 00:18:57,160 Speaker 2: Now it's time to go to Mizuno, go to Rawlings, 380 00:18:57,240 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 2: go to you know, you're ready for that next glove. 381 00:19:01,040 --> 00:19:03,280 Speaker 2: But the gloves that he makes, the first glove that 382 00:19:03,320 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 2: he has, guys, he makes it so that you can 383 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:09,000 Speaker 2: kind of pinch the finger, the thumb and the pinky. 384 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:13,359 Speaker 2: All the glove is made so your handle's sort of 385 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,760 Speaker 2: slide in so you don't hold it a conventional way, 386 00:19:16,320 --> 00:19:20,120 Speaker 2: so that you can close the glove properly. He really 387 00:19:20,119 --> 00:19:21,840 Speaker 2: has come up with a great idea. He's got a 388 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 2: great following, you know, and the idea of I would 389 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: have parents come up to me in camp when we 390 00:19:29,560 --> 00:19:31,920 Speaker 2: were running our little kids camps and mentioned something about 391 00:19:31,960 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 2: boy my son's really struggling catching. And the first thing 392 00:19:34,280 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: I do is I look at the glove and I said, 393 00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:38,320 Speaker 2: I couldn't catch with this glove. Either I would give him. 394 00:19:38,400 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 2: I would give him like my old glove or a 395 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,880 Speaker 2: floppy old glove. And all of a sudden, the kids 396 00:19:42,920 --> 00:19:46,520 Speaker 2: catching balls like he's Willie May's and the parents are like, 397 00:19:46,520 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 2: oh my goodness, how'd you do that? I said, he's 398 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:53,040 Speaker 2: trying to catch with a shoe box, right. It doesn't work. 399 00:19:53,440 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 3: So how many I mean, as a little league umpire, 400 00:19:55,800 --> 00:19:58,359 Speaker 3: I can't even begin to count the amount of times 401 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 3: I saw a second baseman reach have to catch a 402 00:20:00,640 --> 00:20:03,040 Speaker 3: ball and the glove goes flying because the glove was 403 00:20:03,040 --> 00:20:05,040 Speaker 3: too big for him. It was not the right fit. 404 00:20:05,440 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 3: You totally understand it. And your brother tapped into something 405 00:20:08,600 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 3: here which I think is so special. I mean our podcast, 406 00:20:11,760 --> 00:20:14,359 Speaker 3: we work with our friends at Game Changer before and 407 00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:17,040 Speaker 3: you know the scoring app, and they're all about youth sports. 408 00:20:17,080 --> 00:20:20,159 Speaker 3: And for your brother to find a problem that just 409 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:24,639 Speaker 3: our kids are experiencing, right, and for him to commit 410 00:20:24,720 --> 00:20:26,400 Speaker 3: to that, I just think is so special. 411 00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:27,520 Speaker 2: That's so neat. 412 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,200 Speaker 3: And my Nat and I didn't have huge hands, we 413 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 3: would use them too, sure. 414 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 2: And the neat thing too is for the parents. So 415 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:36,919 Speaker 2: many parents want to do anything for their kids. So 416 00:20:36,960 --> 00:20:39,119 Speaker 2: when they're seven years old, they go online and they 417 00:20:39,160 --> 00:20:41,200 Speaker 2: search and they what's the best baseball glove and they're 418 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: they're buying some five hundred dollars pro preferred glove that 419 00:20:46,160 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 2: you know, the MLB guys are using, and they're trying 420 00:20:48,280 --> 00:20:50,200 Speaker 2: to figure out how a seven year old can break 421 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 2: that glove in and use it, and it just doesn't 422 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,600 Speaker 2: It just doesn't work. There's a time and a place 423 00:20:54,600 --> 00:20:57,320 Speaker 2: to switch over to those to those gloves are all 424 00:20:57,320 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 2: great companies, but Jeff really did something and uh, I 425 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,480 Speaker 2: think has really made an impact on the youth baseball scene. Scott. 426 00:21:05,520 --> 00:21:09,440 Speaker 1: You have sent so many Princeton baseball players to the 427 00:21:09,480 --> 00:21:12,000 Speaker 1: big leagues and now one of them, Chris Young, is 428 00:21:12,040 --> 00:21:15,920 Speaker 1: the general manager of the Texas Rangers, won the World 429 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:18,400 Speaker 1: Series a couple of years ago, and Will Venable, one 430 00:21:18,400 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 1: of your players, is now the manager of the Chicago 431 00:21:21,600 --> 00:21:24,439 Speaker 1: White Sox. What kind of satisfaction is that for you 432 00:21:24,800 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: to have coached these guys on the collegiate level and 433 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,240 Speaker 1: now see what so many of them have done on 434 00:21:31,280 --> 00:21:32,200 Speaker 1: the big league level. 435 00:21:32,400 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 2: Well, I have to add Mike Hazen who's of the Diamondbacks, 436 00:21:37,320 --> 00:21:40,399 Speaker 2: and Mike Turnoff who is GM of the Guardians, and 437 00:21:40,560 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 2: we're also we're also players for me. I think we've 438 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:46,639 Speaker 2: had eight eight of our players, you know, for an 439 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,000 Speaker 2: IVY League school get to the big leagues. Matt Bowman 440 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 2: is in the big leagues right now. Mike Ford was 441 00:21:52,840 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 2: was up and down in Triple A, was in Japan. 442 00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:58,240 Speaker 2: Last year. We had a terrific, terrific player named Scott 443 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:01,359 Speaker 2: Bandura that the Giants took in this seventh round. You know, 444 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,720 Speaker 2: two years ago, that's having a terrific season. He was 445 00:22:04,760 --> 00:22:08,960 Speaker 2: on that Philadelphia Inner City Little League World Series team 446 00:22:09,040 --> 00:22:14,800 Speaker 2: with with Monette Davis. Scott was the catcher on that team. 447 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,080 Speaker 2: You know, he played outfield for us, and now he's 448 00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 2: an outfielder in the Giants organization and and really having 449 00:22:20,640 --> 00:22:24,040 Speaker 2: a terrific season. It's, you know what, I love all 450 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: my kids at Princeton. The reason I wanted to come 451 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:30,600 Speaker 2: here initially was I wanted to be around real student 452 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:33,880 Speaker 2: athletes that had other things in their lives besides best baseball. 453 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:36,480 Speaker 2: I didn't want to go to you know, they didn't 454 00:22:36,480 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: call them the Power five schools then, but I didn't 455 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,359 Speaker 2: want to go to school where the only thing thought 456 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 2: in the kid's mind was turning pro and being big leaders. 457 00:22:45,320 --> 00:22:47,680 Speaker 2: I wanted to be around guys that were interested in 458 00:22:48,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 2: the courses they were taking, that were interested in what 459 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 2: was going on on campus. So that's why Princeton was 460 00:22:54,640 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 2: the perfect place for me. But I also wanted to 461 00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:58,760 Speaker 2: make sure that I was in the in the right 462 00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 2: spot and could really mentor of the players that I 463 00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:06,399 Speaker 2: had that wanted careers in baseball. Chris Young was the first. 464 00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 2: As you've gotten to know Chris tim He's one of 465 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 2: the most one of the most amazing individuals I've ever 466 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:20,639 Speaker 2: been around, focused, driven, confident, competitive, you know, and he 467 00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,320 Speaker 2: and I got to really know each other in the 468 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:24,879 Speaker 2: recruiting process, and then when we brought him to campus. 469 00:23:25,160 --> 00:23:27,399 Speaker 2: You know, he's also an All IVY League and an 470 00:23:27,480 --> 00:23:31,000 Speaker 2: NBA basketball prospect as well. And Chris and I, Chris 471 00:23:31,119 --> 00:23:33,200 Speaker 2: durned basketball season, would say, hey, coach, can you come 472 00:23:33,240 --> 00:23:36,119 Speaker 2: catch me. I want to have a bullpen after basketball 473 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,159 Speaker 2: is over with, And it's where we got to know 474 00:23:38,240 --> 00:23:40,920 Speaker 2: each other. You know. We talk about what his dreams were, 475 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:43,359 Speaker 2: what his hopes, where he saw himself in ten years, 476 00:23:43,720 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 2: and every time we talked, he said, I see myself 477 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 2: on a big league mount had a chance to sign 478 00:23:48,680 --> 00:23:51,640 Speaker 2: as a as a sophomore, you know, worked his way 479 00:23:51,640 --> 00:23:54,399 Speaker 2: to the big leagues. Had an NBA contract in his 480 00:23:54,480 --> 00:23:58,520 Speaker 2: dresser for about a year and a half. Didn't use 481 00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 2: it as leverage to anybody. He just wanted to find out. 482 00:24:02,720 --> 00:24:04,840 Speaker 2: Once John Hart and the Texas Rangers sort of found 483 00:24:04,880 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 2: out they had it, they signed Chris to a nice 484 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:08,480 Speaker 2: three year deal so he didn't have to worry about 485 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:12,600 Speaker 2: he didn't have to worry about basketball. But all our guys, 486 00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 2: you know, the guys who have gotten to the big leagues, 487 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:16,960 Speaker 2: the guys that are doctors, the guys that are investment bankers. 488 00:24:17,880 --> 00:24:19,840 Speaker 2: Proud of all of them. And like I said, Princeton 489 00:24:19,840 --> 00:24:23,320 Speaker 2: has been just a really special place for me and 490 00:24:23,359 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 2: the kids that we have, every one of them who've 491 00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:28,720 Speaker 2: come through our program, really hold a special place on 492 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:29,320 Speaker 2: my heart. 493 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:32,240 Speaker 3: One of my dearest friends, a high school friend of mine, 494 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,400 Speaker 3: Aaron Paul, was the assistant coach at Princeton for women's 495 00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,720 Speaker 3: tennis for quite a few years, and he was in 496 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 3: charge of recruiting, and I think it was so interesting 497 00:24:41,080 --> 00:24:43,399 Speaker 3: and I know This is the case for baseball as well. 498 00:24:43,600 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 3: He's recruiting kids that can get into Princeton. This isn't like, oh, 499 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,719 Speaker 3: come to Princeton and we'll just kind of ignore your 500 00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 3: grades and ignore your GPA. Right Like, So when you 501 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,840 Speaker 3: talk about having student athletes, student comes first for all 502 00:24:57,880 --> 00:25:00,240 Speaker 3: of your athletes, and. 503 00:25:00,119 --> 00:25:03,600 Speaker 2: It even starts in the recruiting process. I don't go 504 00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 2: recruit somebody unless it's somebody I think that we can 505 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:12,359 Speaker 2: get into school, you know, athletics. For the kids that 506 00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 2: are applying, for the kids that are able to get 507 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:18,960 Speaker 2: onto our support list, that's called they still have to 508 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 2: be accepted through the admissions door, not the baseball door. 509 00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,679 Speaker 2: They'll look at those applications separately. If I need a 510 00:25:27,720 --> 00:25:30,199 Speaker 2: catcher that year, and when I send my list up 511 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 2: to the admissions office and there's the catcher, they'll take 512 00:25:33,480 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: that application out, they'll review it, they'll have different people 513 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:41,119 Speaker 2: look at it. And if they're confident that that person 514 00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,760 Speaker 2: has that catcher has earned the right to come to Princeton, 515 00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,040 Speaker 2: and I say earned because nothing is given, and that 516 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:50,119 Speaker 2: they're going to do well, then they'll admit that person 517 00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,760 Speaker 2: without comparing them to the other forty thousand applications or 518 00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 2: so that we get. So the term I use it's 519 00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:00,679 Speaker 2: a separator. It's a huge separator when somebody is on 520 00:26:00,720 --> 00:26:04,280 Speaker 2: our list, when we recruit somebody, but the admissions office 521 00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 2: is not is not going to admit somebody that they 522 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:09,760 Speaker 2: don't think can do the work and take advantage of 523 00:26:09,760 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 2: what the Princeton opportunity is all about. 524 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,080 Speaker 1: So you've had so many smart kids go through there. 525 00:26:15,240 --> 00:26:18,480 Speaker 1: Ross Ollandorf pitched in the big lengths for a log time. 526 00:26:18,600 --> 00:26:22,359 Speaker 1: Jeff is Chris Young told me Ross is on a 527 00:26:22,359 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: different level than everybody else, that's how smart he is. Scott, 528 00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:29,879 Speaker 1: tell Jeff the story about when you saw Ross Olandorf 529 00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,240 Speaker 1: playing cards for the first time with his teammates. And 530 00:26:34,280 --> 00:26:36,480 Speaker 1: if you don't remember this, I'll tell the story. 531 00:26:36,600 --> 00:26:39,520 Speaker 2: O tam Hey, I'm gonna tell this one, and then 532 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:42,919 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell another one that involves you. So 533 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: Ross came in as a freshman. 534 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:46,479 Speaker 3: Uh. 535 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 2: It was interesting because in the recruiting process, I got 536 00:26:50,359 --> 00:26:53,440 Speaker 2: back from spring trip and there was a little chicken 537 00:26:53,520 --> 00:26:56,399 Speaker 2: scratch little note underneath my door and it said my 538 00:26:56,520 --> 00:26:58,159 Speaker 2: name and I couldn't even read it. My name is 539 00:26:58,240 --> 00:27:02,280 Speaker 2: whatever from Texas. I stopped by you guys are gone 540 00:27:02,320 --> 00:27:05,479 Speaker 2: on break. I'm interested in Princeton. So I just happened 541 00:27:05,480 --> 00:27:07,760 Speaker 2: to put it in in a in a file. I 542 00:27:07,800 --> 00:27:10,880 Speaker 2: didn't know really who it was or anything. Well later 543 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 2: that I don't know, maybe three or four months later, 544 00:27:13,200 --> 00:27:17,080 Speaker 2: I get a coat a phone call from Keith Morland, 545 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:23,760 Speaker 2: who was actually the baseball coach at Saint Stephen's in Austin, Texas, 546 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 2: and he says, hey, I just want to let you 547 00:27:25,760 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 2: know that you are Ross Ollendorf's top top choice. And 548 00:27:30,440 --> 00:27:33,440 Speaker 2: I'm thinking Ross Ollendorf, Who's Who's I'm thinking to myself. 549 00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 2: So I opened up my files real quick and I 550 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,240 Speaker 2: could see the Oh so I look and this little 551 00:27:38,240 --> 00:27:40,840 Speaker 2: piece of paper. I said, oh really, I said, you know, 552 00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 2: pretty good? Pretty good? He says yeah. He goes, I'm 553 00:27:42,720 --> 00:27:44,960 Speaker 2: going to have Lee Tunnel call you remember. I don't 554 00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 2: know if you remember Lee Tunnel. Of course, it pitched 555 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,040 Speaker 2: in the big leagues and Lee was a private, you know, 556 00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,920 Speaker 2: pitching instructor. So I talked to Lee and I said, 557 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:56,679 Speaker 2: you know, look, I've heard good things about Ross, but 558 00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 2: you know, tell me, I said. He says that he's 559 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: up eighties. Is that accurate? And Lee goes, no, he's 560 00:28:02,960 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 2: not uper eighties, and like a lot of the kids 561 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:08,440 Speaker 2: that recruit, usually uper eighties means eighty four eighty five. 562 00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:11,280 Speaker 2: So I said, oh, so he's more eighty forty five, 563 00:28:11,359 --> 00:28:13,480 Speaker 2: he said, Scott. He goes, he hasn't thrown a pitch 564 00:28:13,560 --> 00:28:15,760 Speaker 2: in the eighties in two or three years. Everything he 565 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,520 Speaker 2: throws his in the nineties. He says he thought he 566 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:21,080 Speaker 2: was going to be a college level basketball player until 567 00:28:21,119 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: he realized that at six' four you have to be 568 00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:26,640 Speaker 2: a guard and not a and not a power. Forward 569 00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: so we started to focus a little, bit a little bit, 570 00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,800 Speaker 2: more so we bring him. In. UH i never saw 571 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,200 Speaker 2: him throw a, baseball BUT i just trusted some some 572 00:28:35,560 --> 00:28:39,000 Speaker 2: former big league, Guys AND i can remember the first, 573 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:42,840 Speaker 2: day guys in the locker. Room they're playing, cards and 574 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 2: they're playing. Cards they're going around And ross won some. 575 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,520 Speaker 2: Hand he sort of held onto his cards and the 576 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,400 Speaker 2: guys looked at his cards and, said why would you 577 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 2: why would you not fold with that? Hand And ross 578 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:58,520 Speaker 2: just kind of scratches his head and he, goes, well 579 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,000 Speaker 2: four hands, ago you played, this and you played, this 580 00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:02,959 Speaker 2: and you played, this and you played, this and then 581 00:29:03,000 --> 00:29:06,040 Speaker 2: three hands ago you played, this you played, this you played, 582 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 2: this and then he, GOES i know WHAT i have 583 00:29:08,840 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 2: AND i know you, played SO i. Win everybody threw 584 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 2: in their cards and at that point, said, okay we're 585 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:17,000 Speaker 2: Not we're not playing With ross. Anymore but here's the 586 00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 2: real good story. Though so At princeton you have to 587 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,719 Speaker 2: write a thesis to. Graduate ross was In Operations research 588 00:29:24,800 --> 00:29:29,200 Speaker 2: and financial engineering CALLED orphi very very. Difficult it's sort 589 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 2: of a systems based, engineering economics with computer, science all 590 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 2: all built into into one. Degree so When ross was 591 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 2: going to write his, thesis he actually went back and 592 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 2: analyzed THE mlb. Draft so he went back and he 593 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 2: looked at like five this is way before anybody was 594 00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:49,640 Speaker 2: doing any of this. Stuff so he goes back and 595 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 2: he and he goes through and he assigns values to 596 00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,480 Speaker 2: all the draft. Picks he then keeps, value so if 597 00:29:56,520 --> 00:30:00,280 Speaker 2: you traded somebody a year, later he would look at 598 00:30:00,280 --> 00:30:03,080 Speaker 2: who you got in return for, that for that for that, 599 00:30:03,200 --> 00:30:05,680 Speaker 2: pick and he was able to analyze like who had 600 00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:09,120 Speaker 2: good drafts and who did what or. Whatever So, tim 601 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:12,520 Speaker 2: if you remember you HEARD i told you this About ross's, 602 00:30:12,560 --> 00:30:15,040 Speaker 2: thesis and you, said oh my, GOODNESS i WONDER i 603 00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,640 Speaker 2: would love to talk about this On Baseball tonight before 604 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:21,920 Speaker 2: the before the. Draft do you Think ross would let 605 00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:25,480 Speaker 2: me take a look at? It so we got you the. 606 00:30:25,480 --> 00:30:27,840 Speaker 2: Thesis ross sent it to, you AND i can remember 607 00:30:27,880 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 2: you calling me up and, Saying, scott this is so 608 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:37,120 Speaker 2: above my level of. INTELLIGENCE i can't understand anything that 609 00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:41,280 Speaker 2: is in this. Book AND i, said, okay, well Email 610 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: ross and ask for the cliff notes. Version And, ROSS 611 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,000 Speaker 2: i think gave you about a two page email where 612 00:30:48,000 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 2: he sort of simplified, thing dummied it down a little 613 00:30:51,360 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 2: bit for you a little, bit and you did a 614 00:30:54,160 --> 00:30:59,400 Speaker 2: whole segment before the draft On ross's. Thesis ross was 615 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:00,440 Speaker 2: in describe probably. 616 00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,920 Speaker 1: Smart SO i was talking about that thesis in the 617 00:31:03,160 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: in the clubhouse AT rfk At Nationals park once And Matt, 618 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,360 Speaker 1: kapps who was his teammate at the, time funny, guy 619 00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: walks by it and, goes isn't that the. 620 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:13,680 Speaker 2: Thesis that you stole from? Me? 621 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:16,680 Speaker 1: Ross so they were all joking that he had written 622 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: this incredible, thesis but he had stolen it From Matt. 623 00:31:20,280 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 1: Capps they all knew how smart he, was AND i 624 00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: remember asking, HIM i, said, So, ross how did you 625 00:31:26,560 --> 00:31:29,560 Speaker 1: do on THE SATs And this was his. Answer he, 626 00:31:29,600 --> 00:31:33,920 Speaker 1: GOES i got one. Wrong he got, wrong and he was. 627 00:31:35,000 --> 00:31:39,200 Speaker 1: Furious and then he took ANOTHER sat test that was 628 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,720 Speaker 1: very similar and he looked at me in the most 629 00:31:41,800 --> 00:31:44,600 Speaker 1: humble way possible and, SAID i THINK i got all 630 00:31:44,600 --> 00:31:44,920 Speaker 1: of them. 631 00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,960 Speaker 2: Right so you know, What and you know what's so 632 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,520 Speaker 2: funny About ross because everybody that's been around he's a great. 633 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:52,480 Speaker 2: TEAMMATE i think initially people were going to think that 634 00:31:52,520 --> 00:31:55,120 Speaker 2: he was just so smart and so intelligent and everything 635 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 2: that he wasn't gonna be. It but you, know he 636 00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 2: the family has has a. Ranch ross runs the website 637 00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:05,360 Speaker 2: they sell, longhorn you, know. Cattle he's worked on a. 638 00:32:05,480 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 2: Ranch he's done a lot of different. Things and he 639 00:32:07,960 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 2: told me that it was really funny because he said 640 00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:13,720 Speaker 2: guys would come up and ask him about, everything like 641 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 2: as they figure he was like the shell answer man 642 00:32:16,200 --> 00:32:19,160 Speaker 2: because he was so. Smart and he said he told 643 00:32:19,200 --> 00:32:23,440 Speaker 2: so many stories and misled people and gave wrong answers 644 00:32:24,040 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 2: and stuff like that all the. Time because he said 645 00:32:26,120 --> 00:32:28,840 Speaker 2: his credibility was so. High he, said they would believe 646 00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 2: anything that he. 647 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: Said it's like Brad ousmas who went To dartmouth told 648 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:37,760 Speaker 1: me that teammates of. His they would Watch jeopardy together 649 00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,480 Speaker 1: and he just they all just Assumed brad would get 650 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 1: every question right because he went To. 651 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,240 Speaker 3: Dartmouth he had to, SAY i can't do, that just 652 00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 3: BECAUSE i went. 653 00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: To An Ivy league, SCHOOL i can't get Every jeopardy answer. 654 00:32:49,040 --> 00:32:52,360 Speaker 2: Right there's. Ridiculous it's so. 655 00:32:52,480 --> 00:32:55,520 Speaker 1: Good all, Right, scott before we let you, go we're going. 656 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,959 Speaker 1: Again we're gonna be at The Big train for A 657 00:32:58,160 --> 00:33:02,600 Speaker 1: College Wood Bat All star our game. Tonight so if, 658 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:07,040 Speaker 1: you as a college baseball coach and a former major league, 659 00:33:07,040 --> 00:33:09,720 Speaker 1: player would go to a high, SCHOOL i mean a 660 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:12,360 Speaker 1: college kid who's trying to get, drafted who's trying to 661 00:33:12,360 --> 00:33:14,479 Speaker 1: play in the big. LEAGUES i know it's a big picture. 662 00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:18,520 Speaker 1: Question what is the most important thing that a junior 663 00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,640 Speaker 1: From San Diego state who wants to play in the big. 664 00:33:21,720 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: Leagues what's the biggest thing you would advise him to 665 00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 1: do in order to get to his. Destination, well first of. 666 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 2: All there has to be passion, involved, Right there has 667 00:33:32,560 --> 00:33:34,880 Speaker 2: to be you, know it sounds, typical but there has 668 00:33:34,920 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 2: to be for the love of the. Game. Right it 669 00:33:37,320 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 2: can't be BECAUSE i want to be because what being 670 00:33:40,040 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 2: a major league player brings to. You there's so many 671 00:33:44,400 --> 00:33:48,120 Speaker 2: great players out. There there's arms everywhere at. Him there's 672 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,400 Speaker 2: guys throwing one hundred miles an hour in high. School 673 00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:55,760 Speaker 2: now it's the hitters that it's tough to. Find right, 674 00:33:55,800 --> 00:34:00,680 Speaker 2: now you know really is so play enjoy. It your 675 00:34:00,680 --> 00:34:02,920 Speaker 2: goal should always be to. Play And i've said this all. 676 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: On your goal should always be to play at the next. 677 00:34:05,200 --> 00:34:08,360 Speaker 2: Level so when you're a youth, player you should Be, 678 00:34:08,400 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: OKAY i want to make the freshman team in high. 679 00:34:10,480 --> 00:34:12,920 Speaker 2: School when you're a freshman high, school it's like BE 680 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 2: i HOPE i can PLAY. Jv when you're on THE jv, 681 00:34:15,680 --> 00:34:17,560 Speaker 2: team you know you WANT i want to make the varsity. 682 00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 2: Team you can't. Look you can dream about being a 683 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 2: big league. Player you close your eyes every. Night you 684 00:34:23,520 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: can dream about being the center field or the shortstop 685 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,640 Speaker 2: for The New York. Yankees but your goal should always 686 00:34:28,640 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 2: be a little bit. Temper it should be about playing 687 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,520 Speaker 2: at the next. Level when you're in college and in 688 00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:35,320 Speaker 2: summer ball and you see some of your friends that 689 00:34:35,360 --> 00:34:37,560 Speaker 2: are you, know going to, college all, RIGHT i want 690 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:39,319 Speaker 2: to be a college. Player when you're in. College if 691 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,239 Speaker 2: you have, success all, Right i'm going to go play 692 00:34:41,280 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: in the summertime and then Hopefully i'm gonna get a 693 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:47,319 Speaker 2: chance to move into the into the minor. Leagues so 694 00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:49,480 Speaker 2: it's one of the Things i'm a little disappointed. IN 695 00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,319 Speaker 2: i Know Major League baseball had to do their, thing 696 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,279 Speaker 2: but the fact that they contracted the minor, leagues the 697 00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,759 Speaker 2: fact that they went down TO i think they're allowed 698 00:34:56,800 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 2: to have what one hundred and sixty players under. Contract 699 00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:03,920 Speaker 2: h it's really taken that that experience away from a 700 00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,360 Speaker 2: lot of kids, that you, know maybe as a career 701 00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,880 Speaker 2: minor league, guy MAYBE i never got out of you, Know, 702 00:35:10,000 --> 00:35:13,120 Speaker 2: Paintsville kentucky in The Happy, league but it was still 703 00:35:13,160 --> 00:35:15,319 Speaker 2: something that everybody talked, about was a big part of 704 00:35:15,360 --> 00:35:17,880 Speaker 2: their their their, career their their, existence and their. Lives 705 00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:20,719 Speaker 2: and we just don't see that happening as much since 706 00:35:20,760 --> 00:35:23,360 Speaker 2: the draft has been shortened and the minor leagues have been. Contracted. 707 00:35:24,160 --> 00:35:26,840 Speaker 1: Scott before we let you, go we started this interview 708 00:35:27,040 --> 00:35:27,920 Speaker 1: With Ken Griffy. 709 00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,120 Speaker 2: Junior you be in his. 710 00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 1: Teammate you were also a teammate With Edgar. Martinez tell 711 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:36,919 Speaker 1: us what it was like to watch him hit and tell, 712 00:35:37,000 --> 00:35:40,120 Speaker 1: us Tell jeff what you did to make sure that 713 00:35:40,239 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: all your guys At princeton recognized how Great Edgar martinez. 714 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:46,959 Speaker 2: Was, WELL i think the best, way and we've missed 715 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:49,480 Speaker 2: since we've mentioned both of those those. GUYS i tell 716 00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:52,080 Speaker 2: people all the, Time Ken Griffy junior was the best 717 00:35:52,120 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 2: baseball player THAT i ever played. With and the list 718 00:35:55,160 --> 00:35:57,080 Speaker 2: Of hall Of fame players THAT i played with is 719 00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,640 Speaker 2: very extensive between The yankees and The White, sox And 720 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:03,040 Speaker 2: Kate Griffey. Jr was far and away the best all around. 721 00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:07,799 Speaker 2: Player Edgar martinez, was without a, doubt the best hitter 722 00:36:08,280 --> 00:36:11,080 Speaker 2: That i've ever, been That i've ever, watched you, know 723 00:36:11,200 --> 00:36:15,880 Speaker 2: for somebody who didn't run very, well for somebody who you, 724 00:36:15,880 --> 00:36:19,400 Speaker 2: know had his share of. Injuries you'd watch batting practice 725 00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:21,919 Speaker 2: and he would, just you, know light balls into right. 726 00:36:21,960 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: Field he'd work up the. Middle he'd have two count 727 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:29,160 Speaker 2: off some of the nastiest pitchers in, baseball The clemens 728 00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 2: And Dave, steve and it always looked Like edgar was in. 729 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:37,080 Speaker 2: Control he just he magnificent when you, watched you, know 730 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 2: AND i THINK i told you at one point he'd 731 00:36:38,840 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 2: get on the plane or. Whatever he had a wandering 732 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 2: eye when you Saw edgar when he when he woke 733 00:36:43,360 --> 00:36:45,879 Speaker 2: up in the, morning his one eye was staring off 734 00:36:45,920 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 2: into space. Somewhere you. Know we literally had to do 735 00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 2: eye exercises for about half an hour to sort of 736 00:36:51,000 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 2: get that thing back into his h into his zone 737 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,120 Speaker 2: so that his eyes would, function you, know the way 738 00:36:58,160 --> 00:37:02,480 Speaker 2: that they were supposed, to strong as can, be discipline. 739 00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 2: SMART i had our video coordinator put together like a 740 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:14,120 Speaker 2: fifteen minute tape Of edgar for, me and it was 741 00:37:14,400 --> 00:37:16,720 Speaker 2: the guy actually Put kenny we since we're In. Seattle 742 00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: he put it To KENNY g music and it was 743 00:37:19,320 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 2: just this video Of edgar just hitting one line drive after, 744 00:37:22,360 --> 00:37:25,520 Speaker 2: another and when he wanted to do at home, runs 745 00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,520 Speaker 2: he'd sort of pick up that leg do a little donkey. 746 00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:31,640 Speaker 2: Kick he had the ability to do. Everything and again 747 00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,120 Speaker 2: so excited that they finally recognized him put him in 748 00:37:34,120 --> 00:37:37,200 Speaker 2: The hall Of fame, because LIKE i, said there aren't 749 00:37:37,239 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 2: many hitters That i've been, around and LIKE i, said 750 00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:44,919 Speaker 2: it's funny my baseball sort of legacy or lineage goes 751 00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:48,279 Speaker 2: From Yogi bera And Billy martin all the way up 752 00:37:48,320 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 2: to The Chris youngs And Mike hazen's of. TODAY i 753 00:37:52,280 --> 00:37:54,040 Speaker 2: haven't seen too many hitters better Than Edgar. 754 00:37:54,080 --> 00:37:58,040 Speaker 1: Martinez and didn't you show that fifteen minute tape to 755 00:37:58,160 --> 00:37:59,360 Speaker 1: Your princeton baseball. 756 00:37:59,400 --> 00:38:01,160 Speaker 2: Team, yeah you know, WHAT i Think i've worn it. 757 00:38:01,200 --> 00:38:03,560 Speaker 2: OUT i don't think it works. Anymore AND i don't 758 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,400 Speaker 2: think anybody has a video cassette player. Anymore i'd have 759 00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:09,400 Speaker 2: to go back and find. It BUT i find there's 760 00:38:09,480 --> 00:38:11,799 Speaker 2: plenty Of edgar video THAT i can find on the 761 00:38:11,800 --> 00:38:13,120 Speaker 2: internet these days to show the. 762 00:38:13,120 --> 00:38:16,279 Speaker 1: Guys, Right Jeff scott told me that he showed his 763 00:38:16,360 --> 00:38:19,840 Speaker 1: team That Edgar martinez video and, said this is a 764 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: video on how to hit in the big. Leagues that's 765 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:24,520 Speaker 1: how Good Edgar martinez. 766 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,920 Speaker 2: Was here's the. Man look at his batting average right 767 00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,320 Speaker 2: against the best pitchers in. Baseball nobody Hit Mariano rivera 768 00:38:30,880 --> 00:38:33,200 Speaker 2: except For. EDGAR i think he had like close to 769 00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,960 Speaker 2: a five hundred career batting average off Of Mariana. Rivera, 770 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 2: scott doesn't. Happen you are such a lucky. 771 00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:42,360 Speaker 1: Man you played With Don, mattingly you played With Ken, Griffy. 772 00:38:42,040 --> 00:38:47,520 Speaker 2: Junioro Tom, Seaver Carlton. Fisk LIKE i, said at one, 773 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:49,560 Speaker 2: point somebody asked me to start to list The hall 774 00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,040 Speaker 2: Of fame. PLAYERS i played. With you, know WHEN i 775 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,120 Speaker 2: was with The, yankees you, know every year in spring, 776 00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 2: training had a chance to be around you, Know. Yogi 777 00:38:57,239 --> 00:38:59,399 Speaker 2: yogi was a. Mentor yogi was my first major league. 778 00:38:59,400 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 2: Manager how cool is that That Yogi barra was your 779 00:39:02,520 --> 00:39:06,880 Speaker 2: first major league? Manager, right played For Billy, martin you, 780 00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:10,520 Speaker 2: know teammates with you, Know Ron gidry And Dave winfield 781 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,839 Speaker 2: And Don, baylor and you, know just so many great 782 00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 2: players go to The White sox and There's Tom, Sever Carlton, 783 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,719 Speaker 2: Fisk Harold, bains who absolutely belongs in The hall Of. 784 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 2: FAME i don't care what anybody wants to. Say Harold, 785 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,439 Speaker 2: bains for that stretch was just as dominant a hitter 786 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,799 Speaker 2: as there ever. Was SO i am very. Blessed i'm very. 787 00:39:28,840 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 2: Fortunate i've had some amazing baseball. Experiences for somebody who 788 00:39:35,000 --> 00:39:38,200 Speaker 2: is just a very average major league baseball, player that's for, 789 00:39:38,239 --> 00:39:39,760 Speaker 2: Sure Scott. 790 00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:43,040 Speaker 3: BRADLEY i, mean being a major league baseball player in 791 00:39:43,080 --> 00:39:46,399 Speaker 3: itself is above. Average we always, say if you took 792 00:39:46,560 --> 00:39:50,880 Speaker 3: every single major league baseball player in the history of the, 793 00:39:50,960 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 3: game it wouldn't fill the smallest major league park to. 794 00:39:56,239 --> 00:39:58,320 Speaker 3: Capacity pretty cool aggressive field. 795 00:39:58,160 --> 00:39:59,320 Speaker 2: In cleveland SO i. 796 00:39:59,640 --> 00:40:02,600 Speaker 3: Listen don't need me to tell, you but being an 797 00:40:02,640 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 3: average major league baseball player it means you were a 798 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 3: great baseball. 799 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:07,080 Speaker 2: Player Scott. 800 00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 3: Bradley we can't thank you enough for your. 801 00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:12,000 Speaker 1: Time, seriously thank You scott for educating us along the 802 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:16,080 Speaker 1: big league, level the collegiate, level the wood bat summer league, 803 00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,839 Speaker 1: level and the little league. Level we need so much 804 00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: help in this beautiful game because it's so difficult to. 805 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:25,120 Speaker 1: Play thank you so much for your advice to kids 806 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:27,040 Speaker 1: adults all the way along the. 807 00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:29,719 Speaker 2: Way my, pleasure and you guys have my, number so 808 00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,439 Speaker 2: this was. Funny anytime you, Want i'm. 809 00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: Yours all, right sounds, Great, scott go preston Good Bradley 810 00:40:36,360 --> 00:40:37,200 Speaker 1: baseball one more. 811 00:40:37,239 --> 00:40:39,600 Speaker 3: Time if your kid is looking very glove and that's 812 00:40:39,640 --> 00:40:40,200 Speaker 3: the place to. 813 00:40:40,239 --> 00:40:40,319 Speaker 1: Go