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Speaker 2: Who's got a longer losing shriek right now? Trevor Lawrence
Speaker 2: or Demonse's teasers they said, can the producers look this up?
Speaker 2: Welcome in what I know? I know, but now I'm oh,
Speaker 2: by the way, we were having a good conversation, but uh,
Speaker 2: I've got I've got some news for you to monse.
Speaker 2: As I'm walking out the door, your mother says to
Speaker 2: me and tell my son I'm looking for him. I'm like,
Speaker 2: what do you mean you're looking for him? She was like,
Speaker 2: she was like, I haven't talked to him recently enough,
Speaker 2: so you might want to get on that on you
Speaker 2: after the podcast. Sorry, we were having a great conversation.
Speaker 2: Sorry to kind of hit you with a little kind
Speaker 2: of one two combo. And then also and then your
Speaker 2: mom coming after you, uh, speaking of here, did you
Speaker 2: see this the video that was going around of the
Speaker 2: I It was probably a lot of people didn't see it.
Speaker 2: My algorithm probably sends me more of this, but it
Speaker 2: was Chiefs players being asked like the viral TikTok question
Speaker 2: of the day, and it was when the last time
Speaker 2: you talked to your mother? And like the first nine
Speaker 2: guys were like this morning, this morning, last night. One
Speaker 2: guy was like, oh man, I didn't call her this morning.
Speaker 2: Hold on, I'm gonna call her right now. And they
Speaker 2: got to remind you how young these guys are. They're
Speaker 2: you know, they're twenty one, twenty two, twenty three years old.
Speaker 2: But I so, I honestly think it might be my
Speaker 2: fault that your mom said that, because I showed her
Speaker 2: that video recently, and so it might she might have
Speaker 2: been feeling stuf. She was like, oh, my son doesn't
Speaker 2: call me every morning. One guy was like, I do
Speaker 2: my prayers and I call my mom and I'm like Okay,
Speaker 2: this kid was built in a lad like this guy's
Speaker 2: pro athlete wakes up every morning, does his prayers and
Speaker 2: calls his mother like he has he ever made a mistake.
Speaker 2: If it sounds like I'm filibustering to avoid discussing Trevor Lawrence,
Speaker 2: I might be. Uh, this is episode two sixty five.
Speaker 2: Here's what's not on. Didn't make the show's Malik Neighbors
Speaker 2: just an unbelievable player, unbelievable bow and the Broncos beat
Speaker 2: Baker and the Bucks. That's well done with the alliteration.
Speaker 2: And Christian McCaffrey seeing a specialist in Germany that don't
Speaker 2: That usually means there are certain procedures, like I think
Speaker 2: it's PRP platelet rich plasma that is legal in Germany.
Speaker 2: That is harder to do over here. Kobe did it,
Speaker 2: other guys have done it. So usually when you go
Speaker 2: to Germany it's to see a specialist for some stuff
Speaker 2: that you can't do as easily in the United States.
Speaker 2: It's usually effective. It also shows this might be a
Speaker 2: pretty significant or concerning injury for it to be week
Speaker 2: three and he's like, I gotta go to Germany to
Speaker 2: check this out. But none of that is the lead.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs are not the lead. The Cowboys loss is
Speaker 2: not the lead. Because we had a Monday night football
Speaker 2: doubleheader that all four teams involved have serious implications for
Speaker 2: how we're and what happened last night for how we're
Speaker 2: gonna view this season. So demanse, let's start with the
Speaker 2: game that ended last in the game that had the
Speaker 2: most intrigue, the Bengals and Washington. Go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah, so the Bengals obviously just lost to Washington last night.
Speaker 3: We might have found some identities there. We spent all
Speaker 3: week talking about what would happen if my Ravens went
Speaker 3: oh to three. It turned out we had the wrong
Speaker 3: AFC North team after starting oh and three this year?
Speaker 3: Are you ready to say that the Bengals are cooked?
Speaker 2: So I'm here's where I think my own bias is
Speaker 2: the wrong word. It might be the right word, but
Speaker 2: it implies the wrong thing. I'm not biased towards the
Speaker 2: Bengals because I like them, But I think I might
Speaker 2: be biased in a positive way towards the Bengals because
Speaker 2: I respect how well they play the Chiefs so much
Speaker 2: that I might be overrating who they've been the last
Speaker 2: season and a quarter. Next year, we wrote them off
Speaker 2: early because Joe Burrow was clearly not healthy. Now they
Speaker 2: did end up rallying, and then Joe Burrow got hurt
Speaker 2: again and they were done. This year is something different. Altogether.
Speaker 2: They have lost three games in three very unique ways.
Speaker 2: They lose to the Patriots in Week one when they
Speaker 2: simply cannot get the ball in the end zone. They
Speaker 2: lose to the Chiefs in Week two when they play
Speaker 2: really well and just get beat by the Champs at
Speaker 2: the very end because a rookie makes a mistake with
Speaker 2: the pass interference. And then they lose to the Commanders
Speaker 2: last night because Jadeen Daniels more on him in a moment.
Speaker 2: Has quite literally, arguably, not definitively, but arguably the greatest
Speaker 2: game any rookie quarterback has ever had. The Bengals had
Speaker 2: no turn had no punts, and they lost to Washington.
Speaker 2: So here's my problem, Demonse. One of the reasons I
Speaker 2: was so much more concerned about the Ravens than I
Speaker 2: was the Bengals was because of the schedule, because who
Speaker 2: the Ravens had coming up. The Ravens have had the
Speaker 2: Cowboys and then the Bills before they play Cincinnati. Well,
Speaker 2: the Bengals had Washington and then Carolina before they play Baltimore. Well,
Speaker 2: you've now lost to Washington, And while I believe you're
Speaker 2: going to beat Carolina, what I think is this because
Speaker 2: after Carolina they get the Giants, and after the Giants
Speaker 2: they get Cleveland. And I understand folks right now might
Speaker 2: be like Nick, they're zero to three, Stop talking about
Speaker 2: them like they're a good team. It's in for me
Speaker 2: to believe a Cincinnati team with a healthy Joe Burrow,
Speaker 2: a healthy Jamar Chase and T Higgins coming back is
Speaker 2: not going to be dynamic offensively. So I am not
Speaker 2: going to right off the Bengals. I am not going
Speaker 2: to say they are finished, because they have a very
Speaker 2: real chance of a month from now being three and
Speaker 2: four just by beating three of the worst teams in
Speaker 2: football Carolina, New York and Cleveland. Get so, I think
Speaker 2: that was temporary rejuvenation. That's a fair point. But I
Speaker 2: think that was temporary rejuvenation in part cause by playing
Speaker 2: the Raiders and in part cause by the momentary lift
Speaker 2: of we're not having Bryce play quarterback for us anymore.
Speaker 2: I just I don't think that's going to be I
Speaker 2: don't think all of a sudden they're a very good team.
Speaker 2: But listen, but I don't think Washington was a very
Speaker 2: good team. Washington hung thirty eight on him. This Bengals
Speaker 2: defense has real problems right now, and Cam Taylor Brick
Speaker 2: can talk all this shit he wants and keep getting
Speaker 2: cooked in these games. And he's a good player, by
Speaker 2: the way, he is a legitimate good player, but he's
Speaker 2: kind of gotten out ahead of himself a little bit.
Speaker 2: But so I am not going to write off the Bengals.
Speaker 2: What I am going to say is this, going into
Speaker 2: their rubber match, not their rubber match, their second meeting
Speaker 2: with Baltimore, which is Week ten, they need to be
Speaker 2: a minimum of four and five, which means they got
Speaker 2: to go four and two through there and probably have
Speaker 2: to be five and four. So what they have is Carolina, Baltimore,
Speaker 2: New York, Cleveland, Philly, Vegas, so that's their next six,
Speaker 2: so they have to go at least four and two
Speaker 2: and probably five and one. I just think they can
Speaker 2: do that. So I'm not going to write them off entirely.
Speaker 3: But you could also say if they could lose all
Speaker 3: of those games.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, when you lose to the Patriots. Every game
Speaker 2: is losable and on its marriage Tomansey, You're right, I am,
Speaker 2: I am. I think a lot of people are prone
Speaker 2: early in the NFL season to overreaction. I might be
Speaker 2: prone a bit to underreaction. I might be really anchored
Speaker 2: by my preseason priors to a degree that. Yes, I
Speaker 2: mean the only winless teams in the league, is it
Speaker 2: at this point? Is it just Tennessee and the Bengals?
Speaker 2: Oh and the Jags? Jesus, yeah, Jazz, Tennessee, The Bengals
Speaker 2: and the Jags are the only winless teams. So you're right, Like,
Speaker 2: I get every team that I listed that I say
Speaker 2: stinks has more wins than the Bengals, do I get that?
Speaker 2: But seeing the offense move the way it did yesterday,
Speaker 2: when that's what they have to be, It's why I
Speaker 2: am not going to just say they're dead in the water.
Speaker 2: What I want to see is what Vegas thinks right now? Vegas,
Speaker 2: right now, Oh, Steelers fans have to be furious about this.
Speaker 2: The Bengals right now have better odds to win the
Speaker 2: AFC than the three and o Pittsburgh Steelers. Yeah, that's
Speaker 2: a space, that's gotta be Yeah, it owned three Bengals,
Speaker 2: three and oh Steelers. So right now, odds to win
Speaker 2: the AFC the Chiefs plus two forty, the Bills more
Speaker 2: on them in a moment, plus three ninety, the Ravens
Speaker 2: plus six point fifty, the Texans plus seven hundred, the
Speaker 2: Jets plus nine to fifty, and then the only two
Speaker 2: teams that aren't at least thirty five to one are
Speaker 2: the Bengals at sixteen to one and the Steelers at
Speaker 2: seventeen to one. So I don't think the Bengals are
Speaker 2: dead yet, but my goodness, gracious, they are on absolute
Speaker 2: life support.
Speaker 3: Did that game last night change your opinion on Jaden
Speaker 3: Daniels at all?
Speaker 2: So I want my opinion on Jaden to be very clear,
Speaker 2: which is I never doubted the kid's talent. My concerns
Speaker 2: about Jaden Daniels were twofold. He's far too skinny and
Speaker 2: a little on the old side. And that was when
Speaker 2: I say a little on the old side. What I
Speaker 2: mean is he played college football for so long. He
Speaker 2: turned twenty four in a couple months, so that he
Speaker 2: was a little concerning. But the real concern was is
Speaker 2: he going to be able to stay d Is he
Speaker 2: going to be durable enough? Is he going to take
Speaker 2: too much punishment? Because it's not only that he was
Speaker 2: one of the skinniest quarterbacks I'd ever seen go in
Speaker 2: the first round. He also took massive hits in his
Speaker 2: college career, almost like cartoonish hits, sometimes running the football.
Speaker 2: But I watched him at LSU win the Damn Heisman,
Speaker 2: and I like Heisman Trophy winners in general. I like Baker,
Speaker 2: I like Trevor never wanted he could have Kalb obviously,
Speaker 2: Like so, I am predisposed to excellent college quarterbacks in
Speaker 2: that regard. What he did last night, though, he is
Speaker 2: better than I thought he would be, and he is
Speaker 2: better quicker than I thought he would be. That's two
Speaker 2: games in a row now where they don't punt. Against
Speaker 2: the Giants, they I mean, it was field goals every time,
Speaker 2: but they scored on seven drives. Last night. They scored
Speaker 2: every time. And so that is what he and that
Speaker 2: past to McLaurin when he was taking a massive hit
Speaker 2: to win the damn football game is one of the
Speaker 2: plays of the year in the NFL. And if you
Speaker 2: remember before the season, one of the reasons I picked
Speaker 2: Washington to finish second in the NFC East was because
Speaker 2: I thought Jaden could be good this year. I worry
Speaker 2: about his long term viability and I still worry about that,
Speaker 2: but right now he has been head and shoulders the
Speaker 2: most impressive rookie quarterback. That's not even a question. As
Speaker 2: much as I love Caleb, that's not a debate who's
Speaker 2: been more impressive right now, Jaden or Caleb. Now. I
Speaker 2: also don't think it's a debate right now on if
Speaker 2: the Bears made the right choice. I think Caleb is
Speaker 2: going to be the better player of the two and
Speaker 2: have the longer career of the two. But through three games,
Speaker 2: Jaden's been spectacular. He's gotten better every week, and last
Speaker 2: night he.
Speaker 3: Was a supers myste incompletely pastes total.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's a record for a rookie to throw
Speaker 2: at least twenty passes have night over ninety percent completion.
Speaker 2: It also, if you remove rookies just those numbers, he
Speaker 2: put up twenty one of twenty three, two hundred and
Speaker 2: fifty four yards, two touchdowns, ran for another touchdown, and
Speaker 2: another thirty nine yards. I mean, that is a brilliant
Speaker 2: game of quarterbacking. And so if you're the Commanders. Now
Speaker 2: your next two Cardinals, Browns. So the Cardinals defense is
Speaker 2: not very good, the Browns offense is miserable. I mean
Speaker 2: I can go past that. The Washington's next half dozen
Speaker 2: games Cardinals, Browns, Ravens. That's a tough one. But that'll
Speaker 2: be fun Jaden and Lamar, that'll be really fun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and then after that Panthers Bears, Giants. So what like,
Speaker 2: Washington keep an eye on him. Now. Now the schedule
Speaker 2: gets way tougher later in the year. They haven't played
Speaker 2: any of their divisional games. They have four games against
Speaker 2: the Eagles and Cowboys second half of the season, along
Speaker 2: with games against the Steelers, Saints, Falcons, and a Titans game.
Speaker 2: That's fine, but they could get out to a hot start.
Speaker 2: And Jaden, there's gonna be no hate for me on Jayden,
Speaker 2: there's nothing to hate on with that performance. That was
Speaker 2: well through three weeks. It's no question through three weeks.
Speaker 2: The only person who's in the argument is neighbors, like
Speaker 2: through like right now through well neighbors, Yeah, I mean
Speaker 2: neighbors been the week ago he was pretty good too,
Speaker 2: but that he had the big drop. But right now
Speaker 2: I would think and I don't know if the producers
Speaker 2: because I can't get individual Player Award odds. It's like
Speaker 2: a weird New York thing. I think they won't show up.
Speaker 2: I would guess the odds for offensive Rookie the year
Speaker 2: demons a go like this right now, Jaden a big favorite,
Speaker 2: followed by Neighbors, followed by Marvin Harrison Junior, followed by Caleb.
Speaker 2: I would think those are the top four and then
Speaker 2: a very significant drop off after that. If they put
Speaker 2: that in the dock all I'll respond to it. Okay,
Speaker 2: they're in there now, Oh, there they are. It is
Speaker 2: exactly what I wait, yeah, no, you're it's left to right. Yeah,
Speaker 2: Jaden at plus one fifty, Neighbors at plus two fifty,
Speaker 2: Marvin at plus three point fifty, Caleb at plus six fifty.
Speaker 2: And that makes sense, Like that's and Caleb. Well, we'll
Speaker 2: talk Caleb later in the show. Caleb is not so
Speaker 2: much based on no the Caleb is not so much
Speaker 2: based on how he's played to this moment, more based
Speaker 2: on the projection sim to league MVP odds right now.
Speaker 2: Mahomes is second. That's not based on how he's played
Speaker 2: to now. It's that we're three of eighteen weeks through
Speaker 2: and they think Mahomes will play better. All right, now
Speaker 2: to the MVP favorite Josh Allen and the Bills go ahead.
Speaker 3: Yeah to that blowout? First off, do you need any
Speaker 3: time to mourn the fall, the fall of the prince
Speaker 3: that was promised? Understand that was an unfortunately I did.
Speaker 2: Well. It's eight straight losses and this is an ultimate
Speaker 2: life comes at you fast moment. So it was November,
Speaker 2: we were It was less than a year ago that
Speaker 2: Trevor was coming off delivering the Jags their first playoff
Speaker 2: victory in a half decade, in rooms to delivering them
Speaker 2: their first back to back winning seasons in two decades,
Speaker 2: sitting at eight and three, playing for the one seed
Speaker 2: that night on Monday Night Football. Since then, he hasn't
Speaker 2: won a game and has not only not improved, seemingly regressed.
Speaker 2: The pick to DeMar Hamlin was as bad of a
Speaker 2: throw as any veteran quarterback will make all year. He
Speaker 2: wasn't pressured, he wasn't panicked, the guy was wide open,
Speaker 2: and he just missed him by five yards. Just absolutely brutal.
Speaker 2: So I am I'm gonna make a plea to the
Speaker 2: Jacksonville Jaguars organization. That is out of the box and
Speaker 2: unprecedented because we have seen coach firings midyear and early
Speaker 2: and when that happens, they upgrade, you know, they promote
Speaker 2: someone on the staff to interim head coach. That's not
Speaker 2: what I'm asking for here. I am asking the Jacksonville
Speaker 2: Jaguars to fire Doug Peterson and immediately, as of that day,
Speaker 2: hire Belichick and tell Belichick you know what, Bill, you
Speaker 2: can be the one to tell Doug he's fired. He
Speaker 2: beats you in a Super Bowl. I'm sure you have
Speaker 2: a little one to get back from that and let
Speaker 2: him take over and bulk he's out to the organization.
Speaker 2: Because I still believe in the talent of Trevor Lawrence.
Speaker 2: But everything about the Jags right now is a mess.
Speaker 2: Trevor's play is a mess, the roster is a mess,
Speaker 2: the coaching is a mess. They they had two incredibly
Speaker 2: winnable football games in weeks one and two, they found
Speaker 2: ways to lose both of them, and then they came
Speaker 2: out last night and got embarrassed and annihilated. And I
Speaker 2: don't know what can fix that, but if anything can,
Speaker 2: it's the greatest coach of all time. I know Bill
Speaker 2: will have to resign from a half dozen media opportunities,
Speaker 2: but I also know he wants to be coaching and
Speaker 2: probably would rather not wait all full year. I get
Speaker 2: what I'm saying right now is not realistic and unprecedent
Speaker 2: for someone to come in from outside the organization mid season,
Speaker 2: but I am the prince is drowning, and I want
Speaker 2: to make it clear I am not putting all of
Speaker 2: this or even most of this on Doug Peterson. I
Speaker 2: think Trevor has been bad. He hasn't been mid He's
Speaker 2: been bad, There's no denying it. He also is Remember
Speaker 2: what I was saying about the age thing, He also
Speaker 2: is twenty four years old. He's twenty four. I just
Speaker 2: told you Jade and Daniels turns twenty four in a
Speaker 2: couple months. Trevor's twenty four. I know how talented he is,
Speaker 2: and we've seen the flashes, but at year four, with
Speaker 2: that salary, that contract, it's gotta be more than flashes.
Speaker 2: There's no escaping that. And so I hate everything about
Speaker 2: the offense. I hate the way he's playing, and Peterson
Speaker 2: seems resigned to his fate, and if anything could get
Speaker 2: Bill Belichick excited. It would be to vanquish one of
Speaker 2: the guys who beat him in a Super Bowl and
Speaker 2: take over a team that's underachieved with an excellent quarterback.
Speaker 2: But at this point, I don't know what to tell you.
Speaker 2: I know people want me to say I was wrong
Speaker 2: about Trevor. Up to this point, I have been wrong.
Speaker 2: I think he's got all the traits and all the
Speaker 2: talent of an excellent quarterback. But you get this deep
Speaker 2: into your career, you need to produce like one. And
Speaker 2: he has not done that. And now he has paid
Speaker 2: like one. And now he's going to be on his
Speaker 2: third head coach and his third offensive coordinator. And this
Speaker 2: is how she goes sideways on guys. So I always
Speaker 2: mus and I can't believe I'm going to make this
Speaker 2: comp And it's not a fair comp to Trevor because
Speaker 2: this player never had you know, the success Trevor did,
Speaker 2: the season he had, near to the playoff win, all
Speaker 2: of that. But you know, time is a flat circle,
Speaker 2: and it would be somewhat poetic if, much like my
Speaker 2: professional mentor, Colin Cowherd, has Sam Darnold, the top three pick,
Speaker 2: amazing college player who he simply cannot quit who eight
Speaker 2: years into his career, He's now like, this is the
Speaker 2: I told you this was in him, and I mock
Speaker 2: him for not being able to, you know, let go
Speaker 2: of it. Maybe that'll be Trevor for me. Maybe in
Speaker 2: six years I'll be on TV and Trevor Olvi's who knows.
Speaker 2: But I'm not defending him, and I get that the
Speaker 2: audience right now thinks this is gonna be my loudest
Speaker 2: and wrongest Classic three. I still believe in the player,
Speaker 2: but there is no basis to defend the player or
Speaker 2: the team, which right now looks like a helpless and
Speaker 2: hopeless team. Was that enough?
Speaker 3: Did I?
Speaker 2: Did I take my thirty lashes there? Or move on
Speaker 2: to the Bills?
Speaker 3: That was the morning onto the Bill side of it.
Speaker 3: Are you ready to say that the Bills are the
Speaker 3: Chiefs only competition in the AFC?
Speaker 2: Well, here's what I will say. Oh yeah, no, they're good.
Speaker 2: They're good. And this is where folks are gonna get
Speaker 2: really annoyed with me. And when I's not Bills fans
Speaker 2: but the other media members. I can't believe you guys
Speaker 2: overcorrected on the Bills like the whole world for years
Speaker 2: had been too high on the Bills. So I got
Speaker 2: to be arrogant and annoying and mocked everyone and then
Speaker 2: be proven right. And then somehow, seemingly everyone except for
Speaker 2: maybe Greg Rosenthal, was like, well, they're not even the
Speaker 2: best team in the AFC East. They could miss the
Speaker 2: playoffs and all all off season. I said, they're still
Speaker 2: clearly the best team in the AFC East, and this
Speaker 2: version of Josh Allen is still a terrifying version of
Speaker 2: Josh Allen, and they're gonna be fine. And now people,
Speaker 2: now I do fear today we are now going to
Speaker 2: overcorrect in the other direction where I think you're gonna
Speaker 2: see a bunch demanse. You're gonna see a lot of
Speaker 2: power rankings that have the Bills is the best team
Speaker 2: in the NFL. Now that's obviously Domino Bridge too far,
Speaker 2: but it's fine to call him second. You're going to
Speaker 2: see some quarterback rankings that have Josh Allen is the
Speaker 2: best quarterback in the league. Now that's gonna be Dombin
Speaker 2: too far, but it's totally fair to call him second.
Speaker 2: I now I am going to say something that Bills
Speaker 2: fans are going to love to hear. There are some
Speaker 2: striking similarities between this Bills team and this version of
Speaker 2: Josh Allen and Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs from two
Speaker 2: years ago. So Mahomes and the Chiefs two years ago
Speaker 2: had come off to heart wrenching playoff defeats, a Super
Speaker 2: Bowl loss where they got destroyed, and a home AFC
Speaker 2: Championship loss that they feel like they felt like they
Speaker 2: blew the game. And then in the offseason they traded
Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill, and people really wondered, Ah, man, is this
Speaker 2: are the Chiefs in the midst of a reb build,
Speaker 2: retool on the fly. The Buffalo Bills two years prior
Speaker 2: get blasted in the playoffs by the Bengals embarrassingly last
Speaker 2: year and absolutely gut wrenching three point home playoff loss.
Speaker 2: They trade digs, they retool, people question or they rebuilding.
Speaker 2: The Chiefs that year won fourteen games, Mahomes won league MVP.
Speaker 2: They have the highest scoring offense in all of football.
Speaker 2: They won the Super Bowl. Josh Allen this year right now,
Speaker 2: he's the MVP. They have the highest scoring team in
Speaker 2: the league. They're undefeated. There are a lot of similarities,
Speaker 2: and I'm not going to ignore them or pretend they're
Speaker 2: not there. I'm not even going to congratulate the Bills
Speaker 2: this week on winning their third straight September championship, which
Speaker 2: was a lock that was going to happen. They are
Speaker 2: a dominant September team, and we've talked about that. All
Speaker 2: I'm saying is, and I've said this before, Oh man, Okay,
Speaker 2: in my back, we're good. Okay, the Bills, when they
Speaker 2: put the game in Josh Allen's hands and let him run,
Speaker 2: they're terrifying. Now, it's terrifying in both directions because you
Speaker 2: worry he's gonna get banged up. But when they do that,
Speaker 2: they are as dangerous as any team in the league.
Speaker 2: And so I've got all the This Bills team was
Speaker 2: considered oh they're good but not great by all almost
Speaker 2: everyone before the year. I disagreed with them. Then I
Speaker 2: thought it was insulting that the Jets were the favorites
Speaker 2: to win the AFC East, And yeah, there are. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna make this point on TV today in full, and
Speaker 2: Bill's fans are gonna be shocked by it. There are
Speaker 2: a lot of similarities between the twenty twenty four Buffalo
Speaker 2: Bills and the twenty twenty two Kansas City Chiefs. That
Speaker 2: ended up having the highest scoring offense in the league,
Speaker 2: league MVP at quarterback, and they did win the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: So just something to keep in mind, all right, speaking
Speaker 2: of the Chiefs.
Speaker 3: Go ahead, speaking of the Chiefs. These guys just keep
Speaker 3: finding ways to win, no matter how difficult the circumstances
Speaker 3: that or the refs had them. In a parlay. You
Speaker 3: infamously predicted the Chiefs going twenty and zero last year.
Speaker 3: Do you think it's possible that you were just a
Speaker 3: year early on that.
Speaker 2: No, I don't think they're gonna go undefeated. Uh, but
Speaker 2: here's what I do think, And I'll be quick listen.
Speaker 2: If you want to bitch about the refs, if that's
Speaker 2: how if you're if you're gonna have your mind warped
Speaker 2: by the by the anonymous Twitter accounts and the stupid
Speaker 2: Twitter algorithm that just feeds you missed calls and act
Speaker 2: like that same feed is not showing you that. On
Speaker 2: the Falcons touchdown drive, they it was extended after a
Speaker 2: third and long incompletion, there was a phantom roughing the
Speaker 2: passer penalty, or if you want to act like we
Speaker 2: didn't see last year, the single most egregious missed defensive
Speaker 2: pass interference penalty of the season happened in the Packers
Speaker 2: Chiefs game that demonds you and I watched from Wayne's
Speaker 2: house in Los Angeles. And if you want to act
Speaker 2: like we didn't just see a damn Monday night football
Speaker 2: game last night, we're on a vertical two point conversion.
Speaker 2: The exact type of past interference that was committed by
Speaker 2: the Chiefs with four minutes left was committed by Washington
Speaker 2: in the end zone. There, those calls get missed. And lastly,
Speaker 2: if you want to pretend that if they had called
Speaker 2: that past interference and then if Cincinnati had scored, I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: if Atlanta had scored and gone up by either one
Speaker 2: or let's you know, and if they got the two
Speaker 2: point conversion that you really believe in your heart of
Speaker 2: hearts that Patrick Mahomes getting the ball back down three
Speaker 2: with four minutes left means oh, the Falcons were gonna win.
Speaker 2: Then go ahead, live your life that way. I think
Speaker 2: it's a dumb way to consume sports. I also think
Speaker 2: this The Chiefs haven't played a great game. They played
Speaker 2: pretty well for most of the Baltimore game. They played
Speaker 2: poorly against Cincinnati. They had moments against Atlanta. Mahomes hasn't
Speaker 2: had a great season. He played really well save one
Speaker 2: pass against Baltimore, played terribly against Cincinnati, was hit or
Speaker 2: miss against Atlanta. Travis Kelcey hasn't done anything. Isaiah Pacheco
Speaker 2: is out injured. All of these things are true. They
Speaker 2: have also had one of preseason rankings wise, the hardest
Speaker 2: schedule of anyone to open the season. They haven't played well,
Speaker 2: incredibly hard schedule, dealing with injuries, and they're undefeated. And
Speaker 2: so here's the thing about the Chiefs. They don't lose.
Speaker 2: It might not be pretty, it might not be the
Speaker 2: way you're used to it, but you take every other
Speaker 2: We did this yesterday on the show. The next the
Speaker 2: biggest Super Bowl contenders, Right, So who Vegas thinks the
Speaker 2: best teams are after the Chiefs, Niners, Bills, Eagles, Ravens, Lions, Texans,
Speaker 2: Cowboys since the Chiefs last lost, Because the Chiefs have
Speaker 2: won nine in a row, those seven teams, so that's
Speaker 2: seven to those six teams. Pardon me, oh, and the
Speaker 2: Bengals include them in that. Those seven teams are twenty
Speaker 2: six and twenty two, while the Chiefs are nine to zero.
Speaker 2: I say that to say this, like other teams lose,
Speaker 2: and the Chiefs have this crazy ability not to lose,
Speaker 2: which is what makes them great. And unless they have
Speaker 2: to play a Chiefs team of a previous era, comparing
Speaker 2: them to previous Chiefs teams is kind of foolish Against
Speaker 2: today's NFL. We'll see what the Bills turn en two.
Speaker 2: Right now, they look great. The Chiefs also have a
Speaker 2: decided and massive psychological edge over Buffalo, and we'll see
Speaker 2: how that plays out. But no one else in the
Speaker 2: league is within spitting distance of this team. The Bengals
Speaker 2: are falling apart. The Texans haven't looked good on both
Speaker 2: sides of the ball once all year. Week one, the
Speaker 2: offense looked great, the defense looked terrible. Week two, the
Speaker 2: defense looked excellent, the offense looked mediocre. Week three, they
Speaker 2: looked bad in both spots. The Niners are falling apart.
Speaker 2: The Eagles might have the single most clueless coach in
Speaker 2: the league today. The Lions Jared goff is Jared Goffing
Speaker 2: a bit lately. The Ravens are hanging on by a thread.
Speaker 2: There's nobody out there. The Bills have my attention and
Speaker 2: my respect. Everybody else you're playing for a bronze medal,
Speaker 2: and so say all you want about the Chiefs and
Speaker 2: how lucky they are. It's crazy how the team with
Speaker 2: the best quarterback, the best coach, most well prepared, most
Speaker 2: well rounded roster, they're also the luckiest. It's crazy how
Speaker 2: that works out. But we'll see you in January when
Speaker 2: the games actually matter for Kansas City, when they finished
Speaker 2: the year around fourteen and three.
Speaker 3: Next Yeah, So my Ravens season was on the line
Speaker 3: down in Dallas, and they went there and they took
Speaker 3: care of business for at least three quarters. So a
Speaker 3: win is a win. But why do the Ravens keep
Speaker 3: not being able to take care of business down the
Speaker 3: stretch late in these games.
Speaker 2: I don't know, man, I don't know. This was a
Speaker 2: weird one because this wasn't The comeback was not on
Speaker 2: Lamar in the offense at all. Lamar, it's twenty eight
Speaker 2: to six, okay, demands he gets them in field goal
Speaker 2: range and Justin Tucker misses it. Because a sneaky big
Speaker 2: story of this season is Justin Tucker might be cooked.
Speaker 2: And Justin Tucker is I mean, ever since Travis Kelcey
Speaker 2: tossed his helmet he seems to have snatched his soul.
Speaker 2: I don't know what's happened to him, but he's not
Speaker 2: the same guy. So he misses that kick. Yeah, so
Speaker 2: he's also he was the greatest kicker of all time.
Speaker 2: But here's the point I'm making. Lamar puts him in
Speaker 2: position to Monte to go up four scores. It's twenty
Speaker 2: eight to six. A field goal puts you up thirty
Speaker 2: one to six. Put the hay in the barn. Game over.
Speaker 2: Between that moment and when it was twenty eight to
Speaker 2: twenty five, Lamar threw one pass. It went like this,
Speaker 2: touchdown Dallas on side kick recovered, touchdown Dallas, Ray on
Speaker 2: side kick not recovered. Evens get the ball, run, run
Speaker 2: Lamar in completion, touchdown Dallas. So that's not on the offense.
Speaker 2: The Devens allowed three straight scores and the special teams
Speaker 2: allowed a on side kick recovery. What should Lamar should
Speaker 2: feel great about is everyone's focusing on the run to
Speaker 2: ice the game. And that was a great play by Lamar.
Speaker 2: But if he doesn't pick that up, Demons, the Cowboys
Speaker 2: are getting the and they don't pick up the next one,
Speaker 2: the Cowboys are getting the ball. Back with like thirty
Speaker 2: seconds left, down three. Now Aubrey can kick from eighty
Speaker 2: it seems like but they're still okay. It was the
Speaker 2: series before when I was like, oh my god, the
Speaker 2: Ravens are going to lose in the most devastating fashion imaginable.
Speaker 2: We were north of the two minute warning, the Cowboys
Speaker 2: had timeouts. It was third and six, and if the
Speaker 2: Ravens don't pick that up, I believe they lose that
Speaker 2: game because I think the Cowboys, with that much time,
Speaker 2: the way they'd been marching down the field, were gonna
Speaker 2: We're gonna go score. And Lamar threw a perfect pass
Speaker 2: to Jay Flowers on the sideline to pick up the
Speaker 2: first down. So Lamar did his thing, Derrick Henry did
Speaker 2: his thing. This defense is shaky, the receiving court is shaky.
Speaker 2: Mark Andrews has not shown up yet this year, and
Speaker 2: Isaiah likely hasn't shown up since Week one. So I
Speaker 2: want to give Lamar massive credit. I thought he played
Speaker 2: awesome and Derrick Henry was awesome. But the Ravens are
Speaker 2: That wasn't that. That looked like the type of win
Speaker 2: that was gonna restore all confidence. Then they did a
Speaker 2: very ravensy thing, which is almost blow another huge lead,
Speaker 2: and so oh, I'm not writing them off, of course,
Speaker 2: And I was wrong because I picked the Cowboys to
Speaker 2: win and the Cowboys, you know, just got run all
Speaker 2: over for three quarters and their offense could do nothing
Speaker 2: until the end. But that was a little jekylin hide
Speaker 2: from the Ravens there. All right, let's go last topic
Speaker 2: of the block.
Speaker 3: So, despite Nick Sierrani's best efforts to throw the game,
Speaker 3: the Eagles still get the win over the Saints. You've
Speaker 3: been on Nick Sirianni's coaching decisions for a while. Now,
Speaker 3: how soon do you think it is before they get
Speaker 3: him out of the building and get Belichick in there.
Speaker 2: Well, I mean they are two and one, so I mean,
Speaker 2: I don't think you know his job is safe for now.
Speaker 2: But Nick Sirianni doesn't call the defense. Nick Sirianni doesn't
Speaker 2: call the offense anymore. So his job is game management,
Speaker 2: and he's been brutal at it, brutal at it. This year.
Speaker 2: We talked at nauseum about how ridiculous of a decision
Speaker 2: he made with the pass and then field goal in
Speaker 2: the Falcons game. Somehow, I think what he did before
Speaker 2: the half of this Saints game was worse if people
Speaker 2: weren't paying attention. Let me set the scene. The Eagles
Speaker 2: have the ball around the fifteen yard line. There is
Speaker 2: fourteen seconds left, they have one timeout. It is fourth
Speaker 2: and one. The score is three to nothing in that spot.
Speaker 2: It is one one hundred percent of the time, the
Speaker 2: most obvious field goal you've ever seen. Why well, because
Speaker 2: if there's fourteen seconds left, you have one time out.
Speaker 2: So if you go for it and it works and
Speaker 2: you get it, you're almost assuredly still just kicking a
Speaker 2: field goal. Let play it out. You go for it,
Speaker 2: you get it, you use your last timeout. You now
Speaker 2: have first and ten from the thirteen yard line with
Speaker 2: ten seconds left. Yeah, I suppose you get one shot
Speaker 2: into the end zone, but that is an easy play
Speaker 2: to defend when the other team knows you can't come
Speaker 2: up short of the end zone, you can't take a
Speaker 2: sack because you have no timeouts, and then you just
Speaker 2: kick a field goal instead. He went for it seemingly
Speaker 2: on a tush push, but it was an end a
Speaker 2: round to Berkley. He gets stuffed and they get no points.
Speaker 2: I'm all for risk reward decision. If the risk and
Speaker 2: the reward are properly accounted for. This is the second
Speaker 2: time in two weeks Nick Sirianni has made a decision
Speaker 2: that is all risk, no reward. If you pick that up,
Speaker 2: you're still almost assuredly just kicking a field goal. And
Speaker 2: if you don't pick it up, you lose zero, you
Speaker 2: lose three points. So I just think I think he's
Speaker 2: pressing and I think he's in over his head. And
Speaker 2: the other the Eagles defense shout out to him, they
Speaker 2: played a good game, Jalen hurts Man, that's another bad
Speaker 2: turnover for him. We're now at six turnovers through three
Speaker 2: weeks for jailing. So I don't believe in the Eagles.
Speaker 2: I don't believe in their coach, and I'm starting not
Speaker 2: to believe in their quarterback. Quick break right back, what's right?
Speaker 2: Welcome back in? What that's right? With Nick? Right? And
Speaker 2: let me remind you guys, I love to travel. Whether
Speaker 2: I'm heading out for work or vacation, or maybe just
Speaker 2: want to drop into Kansas City to see a game,
Speaker 2: I'm always looking for the best places to stay, and
Speaker 2: that's why I turn to Airbnb. Anytime I stay at
Speaker 2: an Airbnb, I'm reminded how great of an idea it
Speaker 2: is to airbnb your home while you're away. Maybe yourself
Speaker 2: have stayed in Airbnb before and thought, hey, you know what,
Speaker 2: I could easily turn my space into an Airbnb. Now
Speaker 2: that football season is back, lots of fans will be
Speaker 2: traveling to catch a game. You could airbnb your home
Speaker 2: or extra room and make some extra money while people
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Speaker 2: anything with airbnb demands. Before we get back to the show,
Speaker 2: I surprisingly I didn't realize it it, but I a
Speaker 2: clip from this show went like semi viral with the
Speaker 2: Swifties in a negative way because they're very mad that
Speaker 2: they think I'm writing off Travis Kelcey, and I think
Speaker 2: that it is a misunderstanding of what I think is
Speaker 2: a smart use of the oldest skilled position player in
Speaker 2: the league by far. And when I say the oldest
Speaker 2: by far, like don't I don't think people also understand
Speaker 2: that the spot we're in with Kelsey, the only guy
Speaker 2: close to his age is Adam theln and what happened
Speaker 2: to Adam Thielen this week. By the way, Adam Feeling
Speaker 2: had an unbelievable catch, but he had to all out
Speaker 2: sprint for it and ended up, instead of celebrating touchdown,
Speaker 2: holding his hamstring because thirty four year old wide receiver
Speaker 2: is just not a thing, really. And Travis Kelcey, as
Speaker 2: we've discussed, is the same age as Gronk, who retired
Speaker 2: for the first time six years ago. Gronk, if Travis
Speaker 2: kelce in a month is going to be playing the Bills,
Speaker 2: Gronk in a month is going to be enjoying the
Speaker 2: second year of his second retirement, playing poker with me
Speaker 2: in Vegas the like. And so this is this, This
Speaker 2: is what we're dealing with here. And so when I
Speaker 2: said I think he has six to ten excellent games
Speaker 2: left in him, the point that I am making is
Speaker 2: not that he has six to ten games left in him.
Speaker 2: It's that Kelsey doing what he did in the playoffs
Speaker 2: was to me not a coincidence that it was the playoffs,
Speaker 2: Meaning last year he didn't have many huge games and
Speaker 2: then went four for four in kicking ass in the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I think what it takes to get his body ready
Speaker 2: and to perform at that level for three and a
Speaker 2: half hours consistently is something he flatley cannot do every
Speaker 2: week anymore. It's why guys don't play this position at
Speaker 2: this age hardly ever, And so I think that they
Speaker 2: are and he is not like running on a governor
Speaker 2: right now, because I also think he might want to
Speaker 2: play not just this year but one year. So if
Speaker 2: he has two years left, then he should, you know, theoretically,
Speaker 2: he absolutely should be judicious with how often he hits
Speaker 2: the accelerator to the floor. And it's not a bad
Speaker 2: thing for the Chiefs early on in a season to
Speaker 2: figure out how not to be so Kelsey reliant. And
Speaker 2: so I don't think it's a bad thing. And I
Speaker 2: don't think it's surprising that this is where Travis is
Speaker 2: where I still in the playoffs, he was the best
Speaker 2: weapon in football. That was a few months ago. I
Speaker 2: don't think he has drastically changed his caliber as a
Speaker 2: player from a few months ago. I think he is
Speaker 2: just ramping up to that and I think that's the
Speaker 2: smart thing to do. All right. Next, let's go to
Speaker 2: our next topic.
Speaker 3: Things are not looking too hot for your NFC pick
Speaker 3: and Caleb Williams. Meanwhile, Justin Fields is undefeated over there
Speaker 3: in Pittsburgh. So who's the most to blame for what's
Speaker 3: happening in Chicago? Caleb, the coaching staff or Nick right
Speaker 3: for Poland on the pressure saying they're going to go
Speaker 3: to the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Well, listen, it's the pressure things nonsense. Right now, Caleb's
Speaker 2: gotten markedly better in each game I thought he'd played.
Speaker 2: I thought Week three was a super promising rookie performance.
Speaker 2: Obviously wasn't what Jaden Daniels did last night, but meaning
Speaker 2: he made some big time throws. He finally had statistically
Speaker 2: a big time game. He hung tough in the pocket,
Speaker 2: also made a couple terrible mistakes, and that's kind of
Speaker 2: what you expect early on for a rookie. Right now,
Speaker 2: I you want to put the first two weeks. They
Speaker 2: won Week one, but Caleb was awful. Week two they
Speaker 2: could have won, but he wasn't that good. Week three.
Speaker 2: The mistakes, yes, listen. He made one terrible pick down
Speaker 2: the sideline trying to do too much. The other one
Speaker 2: he got a little unlucky on the strip. Sack. Gotta
Speaker 2: have more awareness. Also, just a whift block by the
Speaker 2: tight end on the d end, but the Bears not
Speaker 2: being able to run the ball on the Colts, who
Speaker 2: were giving up two hundred and forty yards per game
Speaker 2: rushing is absolutely categorically insane, and the Bears right now
Speaker 2: offensive play designing coaching staff is driving me nuts. They
Speaker 2: were doing at the goal line running a speed option
Speaker 2: like all of that that the offensive coaching for the
Speaker 2: Bears and the lack of a running game in this
Speaker 2: last game against the Colts is an abomination. The defense
Speaker 2: has been awesome. Caleb has been not quite as good
Speaker 2: as I thought he would be initially, but he's been fine.
Speaker 2: My Bears belief was that early in the year they
Speaker 2: had a super soft schedule, Caleb could go through his
Speaker 2: struggles early get better and better and better. My hope though,
Speaker 2: was that through three weeks they'd be two to one,
Speaker 2: that they'd beat the Titans, and that they'd beat the Colts,
Speaker 2: probably lose in Houston. Losing this Colts game is painful
Speaker 2: and it means they've got to steal one back. I'm
Speaker 2: if people though, again, if people right now the stocks
Speaker 2: at a bit of a low, want to sell me
Speaker 2: some more. Caleb Williams Stock. I'll take it. He went
Speaker 2: from like seventy yards passing to one hundred and twenty
Speaker 2: yards passing to three hundred and sixty yards passing. It's
Speaker 2: exponential growth. So I'm okay with where Caleb is at,
Speaker 2: but I the offensive line and the offensive coaching has
Speaker 2: been highly problematic. All right, let's go to all inn.
Speaker 3: Fold today or we are going to play all in
Speaker 3: her fold. First off, little Steelers situation over here, with
Speaker 3: Russell Wilson still injured, Justin Fields is taking QB one
Speaker 3: reins in Pittsburgh and doesn't look like he's going to
Speaker 3: be giving that job back. All interfold, Fields leads Pittsburgh
Speaker 3: to the playoffs.
Speaker 2: I you know, I know this isn't the game, but
Speaker 2: I'm just I'm I'm gonna do neither the So I'm
Speaker 2: certainly not all in on him leading them to the playoffs,
Speaker 2: but I think right now it's a coin flip. Now.
Speaker 2: I do think he's going to be their quarterback the
Speaker 2: rest of the year. I do think that, and the
Speaker 2: Steelers defense is awesome. So if I had to pick
Speaker 2: a side right now, I would say, yeah, they make it. However,
Speaker 2: you know what I don't know if that's the case,
Speaker 2: that I feel that.
Speaker 3: Way, not the faith in Cincinnati, but Pittsburgh is just
Speaker 3: not going to the right.
Speaker 2: No, that's just what I was about to say, though,
Speaker 2: the well, I don't even know if it. No, I
Speaker 2: bet the I mean. So, here's what's weird. Vegas believes
Speaker 2: in Cincinnati more is a super Bowl team than Pittsburgh.
Speaker 2: But I'm guessing they have Pittsburgh better playoff odds. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna check right now. Pittsburgh to make the playoffs is
Speaker 2: minus one forty. Cincinnati to make the playoffs is plus
Speaker 2: one twenty two. So those two things might sound incongruous
Speaker 2: to you, so let me just explain it. Vegas thinks
Speaker 2: it's more likely that Pittsburgh is a playoff team, but
Speaker 2: not by a ton. But they also clearly believe if
Speaker 2: Cincinnati makes the playoffs, they are way more likely to
Speaker 2: be a viable contender than Pittsburgh is. So that's how
Speaker 2: a team that has somewhat significantly worse odds to make
Speaker 2: the playoffs has better odds to win the actual Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: But that is my problem, Demond s. I don't think
Speaker 2: three AFC North teams are making the playoffs. They did
Speaker 2: last year. I understand. I don't think that's happening again,
Speaker 2: So that doesn't happen again. Baltimore, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh. Even though
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh's three and zero and the other teams are combined
Speaker 2: one and five, I still don't know how I feel
Speaker 2: about Pittsburgh being able to hold on. I do think
Speaker 2: Field's gonna be able to hold onto the job. All right, next,
Speaker 2: all right.
Speaker 3: The Anthony Richardson experience is not for the faint of heart,
Speaker 3: but hey, he was still good enough to be Caleb Williams.
Speaker 3: His potential is there, but he's completing under fifty percent
Speaker 3: of his passes at the moment. All in her fold,
Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson is a quarterback.
Speaker 2: One no, he is a starting quarterback in this league.
Speaker 2: I'm all in on that. But here's the thing. This
Speaker 2: is his rookie year. I know it's not, but it is.
Speaker 2: He played two and a half games the equivalent of
Speaker 2: two and a half games last year. His raw physical
Speaker 2: talent is so remarkable that you're just gonna have to
Speaker 2: deal with at least this season and the growing pains
Speaker 2: of can he become an accurate quarterback? The pick he
Speaker 2: threw in the end zone was egregious. He has made
Speaker 2: some terrible decisions and his accuracy is awful. But you
Speaker 2: don't draft a guy in the top five, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, and not give him at least two
Speaker 2: seasons unless it's Bryce Young level bat. And so I mean,
Speaker 2: I'm not Trey Lance is a different example, because no,
Speaker 2: I mean, you're right they. I mean Trey Lance. They
Speaker 2: sat his first year, then his secondary broke his leg,
Speaker 2: and you know what I mean, So he was in
Speaker 2: a different and they and they had their quarterback, So
Speaker 2: you're right, Trey Lance. They did do it too, but
Speaker 2: the culture not in the spot where it's like, right,
Speaker 2: Richardson got hurt, but they don't. Right. They had a
Speaker 2: chance to come back. And Richardson also had more college
Speaker 2: not a lot more, but more college tape than Tray
Speaker 2: and at least he played D one. Trey is kind
Speaker 2: of an outlier situation. And there's nobody. There's no brock
Speaker 2: Purty in Indianapolis, all right.
Speaker 3: Next, the three no Vikings face the twol one Packers,
Speaker 3: who have been led by Sam Darnold and Malik Willis
Speaker 3: all in her foal of the floor or O'Connell wins
Speaker 3: Coach of the Year.
Speaker 2: Oh I like that. I'm let me think, trying to
Speaker 2: think of the other possible contenders. Dan Quinn all of
Speaker 2: a sudden, a sneaky contender depending on what Washington does.
Speaker 2: Mike McDonald and Mike Tomlin sneaky contenders. Oh my god,
Speaker 2: Big Bob Slas fourteen to one. I will not be
Speaker 2: placing that bet, but I listen. The spirit of the
Speaker 2: question is, I think Laflor and O'Connell have done a
Speaker 2: remarkable job so well. I that's you know. I think
Speaker 2: they have both done spectacular jobs. All right.
Speaker 3: Next, everyone is busy all off season talking about the
Speaker 3: Rams and Niners. But Seattle is undefeated in Arizona. Arizona
Speaker 3: looks pretty solid all in our fall. San Francisco wins
Speaker 3: the NFC West.
Speaker 2: I'm sure there's still the favorites for it. Looking at
Speaker 2: it right now, let me see, Yeah, they are. They're
Speaker 2: there even money. Seattle's two to one, Arizona five to one,
Speaker 2: the Rams eight to one. Uh, Seattle's good. I I
Speaker 2: you know, I think some of what we've seen from
Speaker 2: Seattle is good coaching. Gino's played great, some of it
Speaker 2: is Broncos, Patriots, Dolphins, that's the three teams they've played.
Speaker 2: San Francisco. The injuries are just mounting and mounting and mounting,
Speaker 2: and the Niners are The Rams were the one team
Speaker 2: more injured, and the Rams just stole a victory from him.
Speaker 2: It's not on party. Party played very well in that game.
Speaker 2: That was an egregious loss, a truly horrifying loss for
Speaker 2: San Francisco. There's still probably the smart money bet to
Speaker 2: win the division, but it's not a bet I would make.
Speaker 2: All right, last.
Speaker 3: Andy Dalton led the Panthers to a row win against
Speaker 3: the Raiders, and apparently teams have already started asking a
Speaker 3: trade for Bryce Young. All interfold. Bryce can thrive elsewhere fould.
Speaker 2: I don't want to pile on the kid, but no,
Speaker 2: he's not gonna thrive. He doesn't have NFL traits. And
Speaker 2: I've said it. I should have taken this question out
Speaker 2: because I feel mean, he doesn't have NFL traits. I
Speaker 2: don't blame him, it's not his fault, but he just doesn't.
Speaker 2: I hope he can catch on somewhere as a backup,
Speaker 2: but he's not an NFL starting quarterback. He's just not
Speaker 2: quick break right back with listener questions what's right? All right,
Speaker 2: let's get to the listener questions.
Speaker 3: Joe Schmoe says, Trevor Lawrence should should henceforth be known
Speaker 3: as the squire. He's been demoted until further notice. Maybe reag.
Speaker 2: Oh reek, Wow, that's a good pull. Next, it's not
Speaker 2: even a.
Speaker 3: Question, Nick, Nick Adams honest question? Why was Joe Burrow?
Speaker 3: Why has Joe Burrow gotten so much more benefit of
Speaker 3: the doubt than Jalen Hurts. Their resumes are very similar.
Speaker 3: Burrow is very good, but outside of one season is
Speaker 3: not equated to winning.
Speaker 2: Well by If by outside of one season you mean
Speaker 2: two seasons, it's a good take. I mean it's two seasons.
Speaker 2: He went to a Super Bowl and then he went
Speaker 2: to an AFC Championship game. A year they won twelve
Speaker 2: or thirteen games. So yeah, if Joe Jalen has one
Speaker 2: excellent season, Joe has two excellent seasons. So that might
Speaker 2: not seem like a lot more. But it's double. And
Speaker 2: it also, I think, is the fact what tomans I
Speaker 2: mean it is it's double, it's twice as many. I mean,
Speaker 2: it's the difference between one and two is significantly more
Speaker 2: than the difference between eight and nine, Like I understand,
Speaker 2: it's like, well, it's actually just one more than the other. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but comparatively speaking, it is significantly ratio. Also the yeah,
Speaker 2: yes correct. Also the fact that I think Burrow was
Speaker 2: a far far better college player and the number one
Speaker 2: pick the draft vers the second round pick certainly helps him.
Speaker 3: Next, Justin Jones says, I bet the over six and
Speaker 3: a half on games Taylor Swift attends she's already been
Speaker 3: to two. If they make the playoffs, I win that
Speaker 3: bet for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I think she's gonna probably go to
Speaker 2: almost all the home games, so I yeah, I think
Speaker 2: that's a she will go to. And if they make
Speaker 2: the playoffs, the hell are you talking about? Are they
Speaker 2: going to cancel the playoffs this year? She'll go to
Speaker 2: all the playoff games? And so yeah, that's a smart bet.
Speaker 3: Next, JS, which teams do you think Sanders will have
Speaker 3: the most impact on? And which do you think he
Speaker 3: would be the and which do you think would be
Speaker 3: the best for it?
Speaker 2: Uh? I mean I'd like to see him on the Giants.
Speaker 2: I assume we're talking about Shoodo or Sanders. I listen,
Speaker 2: I don't know that, I love I don't know that
Speaker 2: I love him as a super high first round pick.
Speaker 2: But if that's the implication of the question, I would
Speaker 2: say the Giants next Nick.
Speaker 3: Uh No, sorry, Christian, Christian lazo or Laiso Nicks start
Speaker 3: bench cut Purdy, Trevor and Richardson.
Speaker 2: Start bench cut Purdy, Trevor and Richardson. No, I won't.
Speaker 2: I won't play that game. I actually won't play that
Speaker 2: game today. That is too mean. And you guys are
Speaker 2: going to force my I mean, I mean they were
Speaker 2: answer is you start bench Trevor and you cut Richardson
Speaker 2: is the right answer right now. But I don't want
Speaker 2: the that's that's I don't want to participate in that. Next.
Speaker 3: Uh, Demon's Are you playing intramule basketball at school or
Speaker 3: in your rec league basketball this season? If so, how
Speaker 3: is your team? No? I just played straight pick up
Speaker 3: at the gym.
Speaker 2: Random to play pick up again?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Very well?
Speaker 2: Really wow? I mean rearkable achilles tendon recovery.
Speaker 3: Yeah, thousand, it does not at all. If anything, the
Speaker 3: ankle that I broke my ankle on like two years
Speaker 3: ago gives me fits like it tightens up. But no,
Speaker 3: my achilles feels good.
Speaker 2: I'm playing the other leg.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's my right foot, and I tore my
Speaker 3: achilles on the left.
Speaker 2: I've never seen someone so you tore your achilles.
Speaker 3: In January, like January twenty six.
Speaker 2: Or long like that, Okay, in January of this year. Yeah,
Speaker 2: and you're and you can play a ball for the
Speaker 2: last month and a.
Speaker 3: Half, probably like two and a half months, to be honest,
Speaker 3: like two months.
Speaker 2: That's awesome, man, that makes me so happy. That also
Speaker 2: is the second I mean again, knock on wood, and
Speaker 2: you know, I believe you're gonna stay healthy. But that's
Speaker 2: the second significant injury that an initial opinion from a
Speaker 2: doctor was surgery. A second opinion from a doctor was
Speaker 2: don't have surgery. That I think you're definitively glad you
Speaker 2: did not have the surgery.
Speaker 3: Thanks, No, there's no way. I played basketball ago two
Speaker 3: months ago, I five five? I again the surgery.
Speaker 2: No are you kidding me? No? I mean the only
Speaker 2: Aaron Rodgers can play competitive sports A couple months after
Speaker 2: achilles surgery. You ain't him, man, you're not listening to
Speaker 2: dolphin videos. He good show, good job. That makes me
Speaker 2: so happy. Demnse call your mother, all right, talk to
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