1 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:08,080 Speaker 1: I found in the conversations you realize, you know what, 2 00:00:08,600 --> 00:00:10,680 Speaker 1: I had a pretty good first marriage, so to speak. 3 00:00:11,080 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: Working with Ozzie Newsom and both Steve Boshatti and Art model. 4 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:19,159 Speaker 1: That keeps me close to the game. I think my 5 00:00:19,239 --> 00:00:22,040 Speaker 1: transition when I left the game would have been tougher 6 00:00:22,560 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: had I not had this anchor. They're very specialized. It's 7 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:43,760 Speaker 1: a unique talent. They are not football player. Welcome into 8 00:00:43,840 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: the lounge for episode. I don't even know we're getting 9 00:00:47,600 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 1: up there. We're getting up there. We're not we're not 10 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:52,000 Speaker 1: quite a hunter, but we're gonna be there at some point, 11 00:00:52,000 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 1: probably this season. I'm gonna when I go back and 12 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:56,279 Speaker 1: give this a title, i'll know how high we are. 13 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,720 Speaker 1: I think we might be in the seventies. You know, 14 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,120 Speaker 1: we have a guest today. A lot of as we 15 00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,440 Speaker 1: get emails, some people who say we want to hear from, 16 00:01:02,480 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: you know, former players, and somebody who we've heard from 17 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: fans on more than one occasion that you guys want 18 00:01:07,959 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: to hear from is former Ravens head coach Brian Billick, 19 00:01:10,680 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: super Bowl winner. He's going to be on our preseason 20 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:15,440 Speaker 1: broadcast throughout this entire preseason with Jerry Sandusky and having 21 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:18,840 Speaker 1: Washburn on w b L. They're going to be excellent. 22 00:01:19,000 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: And uh, he's somebody that obviously has forgotten more about 23 00:01:22,120 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: football than particularly you will. Ever, now you were really 24 00:01:27,000 --> 00:01:28,880 Speaker 1: saying that one. Oh yeah, I thought about that one 25 00:01:28,880 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 1: form for weeks. So anyway, we got a ton of 26 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:35,680 Speaker 1: emails over the last week and that's good to see, 27 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:39,080 Speaker 1: really encouraging happy. This is probably the best and as always, 28 00:01:39,080 --> 00:01:42,440 Speaker 1: you guys can email us a lounge already the lounge 29 00:01:42,440 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 1: at Ravens on NFL dot net. Uh. The email reads, wow, 30 00:01:47,160 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 1: make his finally off vacation. Weird. I was just starting 31 00:01:49,520 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 1: to think his employment was similar to school teachers. Also, 32 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 1: that would be great. I love that before you guys 33 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 1: started debating, Yes, Garrett can winned a fight. It's all 34 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: about grit and length. Making the emails from now this emails. Yeah, 35 00:02:04,840 --> 00:02:07,160 Speaker 1: like you said, before you guys start debating. Uh, he 36 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:09,000 Speaker 1: has a question, but the question really is important. What 37 00:02:09,040 --> 00:02:10,640 Speaker 1: it is important here is how he ends a question, 38 00:02:11,160 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: how he ends the email. You'll like this. I love 39 00:02:13,280 --> 00:02:15,800 Speaker 1: a lounge. I just thought i'd share my perspective. Take 40 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:18,480 Speaker 1: care and I can't wait for pumpkin beer season. Yes, 41 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: I do love that. You know, pumpkin beer is starting 42 00:02:21,280 --> 00:02:23,800 Speaker 1: to hit the shelves little early. It's early. It's early 43 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:26,280 Speaker 1: for a guy who loves pumpkin beer. It's little early. 44 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:28,320 Speaker 1: It's it's way too early. Anyway. We'll talk more about 45 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:32,440 Speaker 1: that in the coming weeks. But great email. Appreciate that. 46 00:02:32,840 --> 00:02:34,880 Speaker 1: Didn't We get an audio email too, We did, but 47 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: you know, we gotta get to, Brian bill We don't 48 00:02:36,800 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 1: have time for all these emails. Okay, we gotta get 49 00:02:38,840 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: We gotta get to thank you for the emails and 50 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:42,080 Speaker 1: keep saying up, yeah, we might read that, use that 51 00:02:42,080 --> 00:02:44,040 Speaker 1: one next week. All right, So here we go. So 52 00:02:44,080 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 1: we're happy to be joined by former Ravens head coach 53 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 1: Brian Billick, who's going to be in the booth Thursday 54 00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 1: night for our first preseason opener against the Washington Redskins. 55 00:02:52,800 --> 00:02:55,400 Speaker 1: Thanks for joining us, Yeah, of course. So we gotta 56 00:02:55,400 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: start out with this story. I don't think you're aware 57 00:02:57,520 --> 00:02:59,160 Speaker 1: of what happened the other day. Okay. So you come 58 00:02:59,200 --> 00:03:01,760 Speaker 1: out to Ravens training camp and you're watching practice and 59 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: John Harball has a rule. You can't sit down. Reporters 60 00:03:05,320 --> 00:03:07,280 Speaker 1: aren't allowed to sit down during practice. We have to 61 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:11,400 Speaker 1: stand practice. Right. So we're on the far field and 62 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 1: you're sitting on the other field watching practice, right. And 63 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,960 Speaker 1: so Chad Steele, you know Chad, Well, he sends one 64 00:03:19,000 --> 00:03:21,400 Speaker 1: of our interns over there on a B line to 65 00:03:21,520 --> 00:03:24,240 Speaker 1: come tell this reporter that's sitting over there. You know 66 00:03:24,280 --> 00:03:26,600 Speaker 1: you gotta stand up or whatever. Right. So David Wolfe, 67 00:03:26,720 --> 00:03:29,799 Speaker 1: RPR intern, he starts huffing it over there, right. This 68 00:03:29,840 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 1: guy is on the go. He goes over there and 69 00:03:33,040 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: I say to Chad what's going on. He's like, Oh, 70 00:03:35,240 --> 00:03:37,440 Speaker 1: we got some reporters over there sitting. We gotta tell 71 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:40,200 Speaker 1: John or get him up for John Cy's right. And 72 00:03:40,280 --> 00:03:43,840 Speaker 1: so he calls David wolf on the phone, right, and 73 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: he's like, I say, it's Brian. That's that's coach Billick 74 00:03:47,800 --> 00:03:49,600 Speaker 1: over there was sitting by the way, you know where 75 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:53,040 Speaker 1: where you were. It was by the player's exit entrance 76 00:03:53,080 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: onto the field. Yea. So I say, I say to Chad, 77 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:03,520 Speaker 1: I'm like, you know that's Brian, right, That's not just 78 00:04:03,560 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 1: any reporter over there, that's Brian. So he's like, oh crap. Right, 79 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 1: So he's trying to get David on the intercom on 80 00:04:09,320 --> 00:04:14,280 Speaker 1: the walkie talking like the mission the mission. David is 81 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 1: not picking up right, and we're like, does David know 82 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: what Brian looks like? We're not sure if he's ever met, 83 00:04:19,960 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: you know, So we're watching with a lot of suspense 84 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,720 Speaker 1: to see what happens here. He gets close, sees it's 85 00:04:26,760 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 1: you and does like a fly by, like pretends like 86 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: nothing ever happened. Just the less, that's good. I'm glad 87 00:04:34,440 --> 00:04:36,360 Speaker 1: I stirred practice up a little bit. Exactly. It was 88 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,040 Speaker 1: some entertainment for us reporters. I have to mention that 89 00:04:39,080 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 1: to Chad, that's great, which all I got is just 90 00:04:41,040 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 1: gotta be known the rules or is it? Is it 91 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 1: reporters who don't have a Super Bowl ring, ones who 92 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:54,039 Speaker 1: didn't earn one. You know, we have Super Bowl rings, 93 00:04:54,040 --> 00:04:58,160 Speaker 1: but we didn't exactly, it's not quite the same, right. 94 00:04:58,720 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: That's good to know. I appreciate get that story. Yeah. Yeah, 95 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:04,159 Speaker 1: So just to start off, just how much have you 96 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,920 Speaker 1: enjoyed watching Ravens practice. It's been great, you know. I 97 00:05:07,279 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: obviously I've I've done Ravens games before when I was 98 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:12,320 Speaker 1: doing games for Fox, and I've been i think to 99 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:14,479 Speaker 1: every training camp for the last three or four years 100 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,960 Speaker 1: in my duties for the NFL Network. I'll come out 101 00:05:16,960 --> 00:05:18,520 Speaker 1: and do a day as I did the day you're 102 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:23,520 Speaker 1: referring to, but obviously doing the preseason games I'm now 103 00:05:23,600 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 1: have immersed myself a lot more in getting to know 104 00:05:27,000 --> 00:05:30,400 Speaker 1: the roster, Jerry Sandusky, who I'm thrilled to be working with. 105 00:05:30,440 --> 00:05:32,279 Speaker 1: I think Jerry is one of the best in the business, 106 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: Jerry who's out here every day and visiting with Jerry 107 00:05:34,880 --> 00:05:38,360 Speaker 1: about what he's seeing and the like. Um, it's been 108 00:05:38,400 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 1: fun to kind of reconnect and really get for the 109 00:05:40,560 --> 00:05:43,680 Speaker 1: first time, really get to know the roster because there's 110 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:46,680 Speaker 1: really I I unless I'm mistaken, I think Terrell and 111 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:50,120 Speaker 1: Sam Cooke are the only two players left from when 112 00:05:50,160 --> 00:05:53,159 Speaker 1: I was here before. So obviously, you know, these guys 113 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 1: are all new to me for the most part, other 114 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:57,600 Speaker 1: than Joe and some of the guys I've met over 115 00:05:57,600 --> 00:06:00,520 Speaker 1: the last few years. So to kind of jump back 116 00:06:00,560 --> 00:06:03,560 Speaker 1: into the roster and and uh, particularly with the young players, 117 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:06,520 Speaker 1: which is going to be really important obviously this training camp, 118 00:06:06,560 --> 00:06:09,800 Speaker 1: like every training camp, to see who can step in 119 00:06:09,839 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: because there are a lot of young players they're gonna 120 00:06:12,640 --> 00:06:15,000 Speaker 1: have to step up and play well for the Ravens Zoo. Well, 121 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:22,960 Speaker 1: this year, Yanda. Yeah, you know that's right, that's right. 122 00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:25,040 Speaker 1: I know Marsh because he comes down he does duck 123 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:26,480 Speaker 1: hunting down on my neck or the words down the 124 00:06:26,520 --> 00:06:29,480 Speaker 1: Eastern Shore. You can go out together. No, no, no, 125 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:31,559 Speaker 1: I'm not. You don't put a gun in the hands 126 00:06:31,560 --> 00:06:36,720 Speaker 1: of a fired coach. He loves to come down and 127 00:06:36,920 --> 00:06:40,279 Speaker 1: the guy that that uh, he's the fields. He shoots 128 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: and is a good friend of mine. It's awesome. You know. 129 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: You had some of our staff here come down to 130 00:06:46,400 --> 00:06:50,279 Speaker 1: your boat and they're sure it was Jerry Sandusky and 131 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 1: watch burn some of our staff here. But the only 132 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 1: thing I wonder about my making eyes invitations must to 133 00:06:56,040 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 1: go mail or something. You know. We enjoyed crabs too. Yeah. 134 00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,240 Speaker 1: We had a great at that was above my pig. 135 00:07:05,600 --> 00:07:10,560 Speaker 1: All were welcoming, right. So it honestly, you have your 136 00:07:10,640 --> 00:07:14,400 Speaker 1: public relations major in college, right, and so I'm curious 137 00:07:14,440 --> 00:07:17,120 Speaker 1: how that has kind of affected you both when you 138 00:07:17,160 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: were coaching and then now that you're out of coaching. 139 00:07:19,680 --> 00:07:21,880 Speaker 1: How it's still well, I will tell you because I 140 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: loved people. Don't know. My first job in the NFL 141 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:29,360 Speaker 1: was on a PR staff I had. I was in 142 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,840 Speaker 1: at Brighamall University. It was graduate assistant. I bounced around 143 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:35,920 Speaker 1: a couple of training camps as of players didn't didn't 144 00:07:36,000 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: make it in San Francisco, in Dallas, and uh the opportunity. 145 00:07:40,480 --> 00:07:43,000 Speaker 1: The former assistant PR director in Dallas got the head 146 00:07:43,040 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 1: job in San Francisco. And Bill Walsh, and typical Bill 147 00:07:45,800 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: Walsh fashion, was a forward thinking Um, you know they 148 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:53,560 Speaker 1: were gonna they were before Chad Steele was Chad Steele. 149 00:07:54,280 --> 00:07:57,120 Speaker 1: I mean you wanted He wanted an assistant that had 150 00:07:57,200 --> 00:07:59,600 Speaker 1: kind of a playing background that could relate to the 151 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:02,280 Speaker 1: player was a little bit better. Um and and and 152 00:08:02,360 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: this was before he had player programs guys. So he 153 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 1: had the vision for I want a guy on staff 154 00:08:08,040 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: that kind of fits that mold. So George Hedlston, who 155 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:13,960 Speaker 1: was the director of public relations, offered me the job 156 00:08:13,960 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: and I was unprepared for it. I was graduate degree 157 00:08:16,760 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: in communications, but I didn't know what I was doing, 158 00:08:19,640 --> 00:08:21,440 Speaker 1: but saw it as an entree of the league and 159 00:08:21,560 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: couldn't pass it up. And I will tell you the 160 00:08:24,080 --> 00:08:27,760 Speaker 1: two years that I was the PR assistant PR director 161 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: in San Francisco were huge for me because we were 162 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,640 Speaker 1: very small organizationally, so I was exposed to every aspect 163 00:08:34,720 --> 00:08:36,679 Speaker 1: of the organization. You think at the time there were 164 00:08:36,720 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: three of us, George Helston, myself, uh, one young woman 165 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:42,280 Speaker 1: named Neil Dilia Newland who was our secretary who knew 166 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,920 Speaker 1: far more than I did, even though I was the assistant. 167 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:51,000 Speaker 1: We were pr publications, sweet sales, community relations. I mean, 168 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: how many people is that now? Yeah? And and so 169 00:08:55,640 --> 00:08:58,000 Speaker 1: and and then Bill also knew that I wanted to 170 00:08:58,400 --> 00:09:01,400 Speaker 1: eventually maybe end up and coach. He and John McVeigh, 171 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,560 Speaker 1: who was our general manager. They were great in terms 172 00:09:04,600 --> 00:09:07,760 Speaker 1: of kind of including me, and so I'd go advance 173 00:09:07,840 --> 00:09:09,680 Speaker 1: a game. They don't even do that anymore. I go 174 00:09:09,720 --> 00:09:12,120 Speaker 1: to where we're playing that week, and you know, make 175 00:09:12,160 --> 00:09:14,720 Speaker 1: sure the hotels and all the busses and everything, and 176 00:09:14,720 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: then do all the radio and TV work leading up 177 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: to it. Um and and they would say, okay, go 178 00:09:20,240 --> 00:09:22,280 Speaker 1: to you would play Seattle. So I'll go to ust 179 00:09:22,280 --> 00:09:25,640 Speaker 1: to Washington, University of Washington and watch this practice and 180 00:09:25,679 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: then write up this player, which was great. I really 181 00:09:28,920 --> 00:09:32,000 Speaker 1: give them great credit for for, you know, giving me 182 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: that entree to every from personnel toor across the board. 183 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:38,600 Speaker 1: It was. It was an incredible two year tutelage for me. 184 00:09:38,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: So did you know then, like, did you think that 185 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 1: you're going to be more, you know, a little slappies 186 00:09:44,360 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: nobody's like us, or did you know that you were 187 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,320 Speaker 1: gonna be a coach or at least no. I'd always 188 00:09:49,360 --> 00:09:51,440 Speaker 1: known I wanted to go into coaching, but this was 189 00:09:51,480 --> 00:09:55,000 Speaker 1: an opportunity to get exposed at the NFL level. I 190 00:09:55,040 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: think I knew I would get back into coaching, but 191 00:09:57,120 --> 00:10:00,080 Speaker 1: like anything, the longer you're there, you could see know 192 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:03,040 Speaker 1: something well, maybe head towards the general manager aspect of 193 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:06,160 Speaker 1: it or whatever. Um. And then a coaching opportunity came 194 00:10:06,200 --> 00:10:09,080 Speaker 1: my way down to San Diego State. But those two 195 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,880 Speaker 1: years were and you talked about how it translated. Then 196 00:10:11,920 --> 00:10:14,280 Speaker 1: going forward when I became a head coach, having been 197 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,800 Speaker 1: exposed to all of these jobs and realizing in the 198 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 1: organization just how many people it takes, served me very 199 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,559 Speaker 1: very well. Did you when you were a head coach 200 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,440 Speaker 1: did you enjoy the media aspect of it or did 201 00:10:26,480 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 1: you hate the media because coach is a little different. Oh? Sure, 202 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:33,400 Speaker 1: I I enjoyed the give and take. Um, you know, 203 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 1: as I always used to say, if you want to say, 204 00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 1: Brian Billick is is is screwed up as Hogan's goat. Fine, 205 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,400 Speaker 1: you're but if you're gonna say now he's screwed up 206 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:46,640 Speaker 1: because and you're gonna list, Okay, now we're gonna go 207 00:10:46,720 --> 00:10:49,079 Speaker 1: round around, because now I'm going to challenge you a 208 00:10:49,160 --> 00:10:51,079 Speaker 1: little bit. If I don't agree with your list, if 209 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 1: you say it's because X, Y, and Z, then then 210 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,959 Speaker 1: we're gonna go back and forth. And and I understood. Look, 211 00:10:57,440 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: I may not give you what you want. I'm gonna 212 00:11:00,000 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: fill your notebook and I'm going to give you a 213 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: thirty second or sixty second clip. It may not be 214 00:11:05,960 --> 00:11:08,520 Speaker 1: what you want, but i'm gonna I'm gonna give you 215 00:11:08,520 --> 00:11:10,600 Speaker 1: what you need to do your job. I think reporters 216 00:11:10,720 --> 00:11:14,120 Speaker 1: like that. I mean, that's that's the reporters, right, as 217 00:11:14,160 --> 00:11:16,079 Speaker 1: long as they have something to work with. I think 218 00:11:16,080 --> 00:11:18,120 Speaker 1: they're generally pretty. And that's the key you learn as 219 00:11:18,160 --> 00:11:20,600 Speaker 1: a head coach is Okay, how can I do my job? 220 00:11:21,200 --> 00:11:24,839 Speaker 1: Let them do their job and make this as least 221 00:11:24,880 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 1: intrusive as possible. I think sometimes I council players the 222 00:11:28,440 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: same way sometimes because they have such an aversion to 223 00:11:31,800 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 1: it that they don't realize you're just making your job 224 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:40,040 Speaker 1: tougher you can make who does a better postgame interview 225 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,160 Speaker 1: or interview at all than Tom Brady and Peyton Manning, 226 00:11:44,640 --> 00:11:48,560 Speaker 1: And who tells you absolutely less of a lot of 227 00:11:48,559 --> 00:11:51,079 Speaker 1: words about getting any they knew how to. Look if 228 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,199 Speaker 1: I if I try to hold an arm's length, if 229 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: I you know, I had this conversation with Jay Cutler, 230 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: who just wasn't getting going. Look, I know that's not 231 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 1: something you're comfortable doing. You make it all go away 232 00:12:01,200 --> 00:12:05,040 Speaker 1: with a lot less effort if you just play the game. 233 00:12:05,880 --> 00:12:08,360 Speaker 1: Do that. But the more you push back, the harder 234 00:12:08,360 --> 00:12:12,000 Speaker 1: it becomes, the more distracting it becomes. What is it 235 00:12:12,040 --> 00:12:15,480 Speaker 1: about broadcasting that you really love? Now? Well, one, it 236 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:18,800 Speaker 1: keeps me close to the game. I think my transition 237 00:12:18,840 --> 00:12:21,720 Speaker 1: when I left the game would have been tougher had 238 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,200 Speaker 1: I not had this anchor um in doing games for 239 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:27,680 Speaker 1: Fox with someone. Can you imagine getting to sit in 240 00:12:27,760 --> 00:12:31,560 Speaker 1: virtually every facility in the in the league your quote 241 00:12:31,600 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: unquote opponents and watching how they did their job, how 242 00:12:35,120 --> 00:12:37,959 Speaker 1: they conducted practice. Some of them even invited me into meetings. 243 00:12:38,320 --> 00:12:40,520 Speaker 1: It was you know, I'm done coaching, of course, But 244 00:12:40,600 --> 00:12:42,040 Speaker 1: I said, if I were ever to go back, I 245 00:12:42,080 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: would be a better coach just for that experience of 246 00:12:45,600 --> 00:12:48,480 Speaker 1: those five years of sitting in a different facility every 247 00:12:48,520 --> 00:12:52,160 Speaker 1: Friday getting ready for those games. But it one, it 248 00:12:52,240 --> 00:12:55,080 Speaker 1: keeps me close to the game, which which obviously is 249 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,880 Speaker 1: is something that you know, I don't have those withdrawals 250 00:12:57,880 --> 00:13:02,800 Speaker 1: necessarily um and and have I think a big enough 251 00:13:02,880 --> 00:13:06,480 Speaker 1: view of the game that I think I can lend 252 00:13:06,520 --> 00:13:09,319 Speaker 1: something to it. You know, in terms of what I'm 253 00:13:09,360 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: seeing after having literally having done been in this business 254 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:16,000 Speaker 1: for five years, Uh, you tend to see things a 255 00:13:16,000 --> 00:13:19,319 Speaker 1: little clear right from the perspective I have now because 256 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:21,520 Speaker 1: you're not drawn into the emotion and the grind of 257 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,800 Speaker 1: of what what being an NFL coach or any kind 258 00:13:24,800 --> 00:13:28,040 Speaker 1: of coach for that matter, has to deal with um 259 00:13:28,120 --> 00:13:31,800 Speaker 1: and and It's and it's a perspective that that I enjoy. 260 00:13:32,240 --> 00:13:33,720 Speaker 1: I was gonna ask you about this and a little 261 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: bit later, but you kind of open this this can 262 00:13:35,760 --> 00:13:37,200 Speaker 1: of worm, so I'll ask you about it now. But 263 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:39,679 Speaker 1: I remember asking you at the Super Bowl in two 264 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:42,160 Speaker 1: thousand twelve, would you ever want to coach again? And 265 00:13:42,160 --> 00:13:43,920 Speaker 1: remember you told me at the time NFL wants two 266 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:49,720 Speaker 1: things to coaches right now, young and cheap and so 267 00:13:49,880 --> 00:13:52,520 Speaker 1: and so. Was there a point in time when you 268 00:13:52,559 --> 00:13:55,640 Speaker 1: were done coaching that you thought, I'm probably gonna end 269 00:13:55,720 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 1: up coaching again. And at what point did a shift 270 00:13:57,520 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 1: from I'm out of coaching. Initially I ought I would 271 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:03,040 Speaker 1: go back to coaching, uh and and didn't know what 272 00:14:03,080 --> 00:14:07,760 Speaker 1: that time frame would be. And what I found was 273 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:11,080 Speaker 1: and there were two specific opportunities, a couple of conversations, 274 00:14:11,120 --> 00:14:14,360 Speaker 1: but two opportunities that could have become opportunities, I think, 275 00:14:15,200 --> 00:14:18,640 Speaker 1: But I found in the conversations you realize, you know what, 276 00:14:19,080 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: I had a pretty good first marriage, so to speaking, 277 00:14:21,560 --> 00:14:25,360 Speaker 1: working with Ozzy Newsom and both Steve Boshatti and Art Model, 278 00:14:26,160 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 1: and and you have an idea of what a winning 279 00:14:31,000 --> 00:14:33,440 Speaker 1: organization would look like. Doesn't mean it has to be 280 00:14:33,520 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: my way, doesn't have to you know, my way or 281 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 1: the highway, and it has to be I'm not saying that, 282 00:14:38,480 --> 00:14:42,040 Speaker 1: but a sense of do they know what they're looking for? 283 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: Do they? I? I say today, there's two things, after 284 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,240 Speaker 1: all these years and all the experience that I have, 285 00:14:48,320 --> 00:14:51,560 Speaker 1: there's two things I know. I absolutely don't know. I 286 00:14:51,600 --> 00:14:55,960 Speaker 1: don't know what it catches. And I don't know what 287 00:14:56,080 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 1: they're really looking for in a head coach because it 288 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:00,760 Speaker 1: has changed, it's become more of a general managers league. 289 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,880 Speaker 1: In my opinion, that's not good or bad. It just 290 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:06,000 Speaker 1: is UM and what they're looking for from the head 291 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,640 Speaker 1: coach and the job. It has grown and changed because 292 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:12,240 Speaker 1: of social media, because just because of all the demands. 293 00:15:12,640 --> 00:15:15,120 Speaker 1: It just just like we talked about, you know what 294 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: before was three people is now thirty or forty people 295 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,840 Speaker 1: in the organization. So it has changed. And as a 296 00:15:21,880 --> 00:15:25,560 Speaker 1: head coach you have to be able to to be 297 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:28,040 Speaker 1: able to deal with all those elements. Right what's more 298 00:15:28,040 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 1: fun do you think being an NFL head coach or 299 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,160 Speaker 1: not being an NFL well right now and being able 300 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,200 Speaker 1: to chase around my grandkids and spend time on my 301 00:15:36,240 --> 00:15:39,600 Speaker 1: boat right now, it's pretty good. No one's trying to 302 00:15:39,680 --> 00:15:43,080 Speaker 1: run me out of town. And but what when you're 303 00:15:43,120 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 1: in it and when you're living it, it's it's the 304 00:15:45,680 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 1: best because it's the challenge. You've worked your entire life 305 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:53,920 Speaker 1: for it. Um. You don't realize until you get out 306 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,120 Speaker 1: of it looking back some of the things that that 307 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 1: you were looking I mean, this job can kill you. 308 00:15:58,880 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: I mean it can uh and and and we've seen 309 00:16:01,960 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: whether it be a Gary kubiakt that leaves the league. 310 00:16:04,360 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: I mean, it is that's the hardest thing. And people 311 00:16:06,360 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 1: always ask what's the hardest thing about being an NFL 312 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,440 Speaker 1: head coach. It was the fact that its not that 313 00:16:12,520 --> 00:16:16,120 Speaker 1: other jobs aren't tough, but there's not a day it is. 314 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:18,760 Speaker 1: It is three sixty five days. I would say it's 315 00:16:19,320 --> 00:16:23,040 Speaker 1: seven three sixty right, But there's not a day in 316 00:16:23,120 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: your year that you're not dealing with something to do 317 00:16:27,280 --> 00:16:30,080 Speaker 1: with your team. And that's the challenge. You love it, 318 00:16:30,920 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: but it is. It is a grind. And so when 319 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 1: I say it's a young man's game, so speak and 320 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:38,760 Speaker 1: you gotta respect obviously a Bill Belichick, Pete Carroll and 321 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:40,360 Speaker 1: the guys that are doing it that are that are 322 00:16:40,400 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: even older than I am. But it is a grind, 323 00:16:43,320 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: and it's it's a grind for me right now. It's 324 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: probably better suited for a younger man. I gotta I 325 00:16:48,920 --> 00:16:51,680 Speaker 1: gotta read this quote and jump ahead again here. But 326 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: Steve A. Schotti a week or so ago had a 327 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 1: fan forum with all of our fans, right and Goodell 328 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,440 Speaker 1: came down for it and all that, and he had 329 00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: a funny that really struck me, right and he said 330 00:17:02,400 --> 00:17:05,119 Speaker 1: he was talking about the vocal minority right in the 331 00:17:05,160 --> 00:17:07,280 Speaker 1: whole Kaepernick situation and all that stuff, and I have 332 00:17:07,320 --> 00:17:09,359 Speaker 1: to watch after that. So his quote was, when I 333 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: fired Billic nine years ago, it sounded like of the 334 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:14,399 Speaker 1: people in Baltimore wanted me to fire him until I 335 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:16,159 Speaker 1: fired him, and then I found out eight percent of 336 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: people thought I was an idiot. Just your take on that. 337 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: And Steve is very insightful that way, you know, and 338 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: and and because you recognize it, it is true that 339 00:17:28,840 --> 00:17:31,160 Speaker 1: he's right. Probably they wanted to run my butt out 340 00:17:31,160 --> 00:17:35,000 Speaker 1: of town. Since then, the very people and I'm in 341 00:17:35,040 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: the airport all the time, coming and going to people 342 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,000 Speaker 1: never failed to come up. And it's it's humbling. Just oh, coach, 343 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:45,160 Speaker 1: it's great that I have become the smartest guy in America. 344 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:47,280 Speaker 1: And these are these are people that wanted to run 345 00:17:47,280 --> 00:17:49,800 Speaker 1: me out of town. There was and and I will 346 00:17:49,880 --> 00:17:52,080 Speaker 1: give Steve credit for that. When when we went through 347 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: that transition, Steve said, you're going to find that the 348 00:17:56,440 --> 00:17:59,679 Speaker 1: way people respond to you, it's going to surprise you 349 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 1: how much they love you and the regard they're gonna 350 00:18:03,119 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 1: have you. And the guy just fired me. So I'm 351 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: thinking Okay, yeah, right, right, But but he was he 352 00:18:08,200 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: was right in terms of the way people there is 353 00:18:10,640 --> 00:18:13,439 Speaker 1: something it's like the backup quarterback, so to speak. And 354 00:18:13,520 --> 00:18:16,600 Speaker 1: so the perspective you have that is bigger, uh now 355 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:18,240 Speaker 1: and be able to step away from it. And the 356 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:19,880 Speaker 1: fact that I stayed in the area, that I still 357 00:18:19,920 --> 00:18:22,160 Speaker 1: live in the area, I think has a little something 358 00:18:22,200 --> 00:18:24,800 Speaker 1: to do with it. But he's he's he's right. I mean, 359 00:18:24,800 --> 00:18:27,399 Speaker 1: because the fans, you know, and and obviously what they 360 00:18:27,400 --> 00:18:30,160 Speaker 1: were going through with the the Kaepernick in the situation 361 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:33,760 Speaker 1: and people's different opinions. Um, you do have to be 362 00:18:33,800 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 1: responsive to the fans. But it's also like, you know, 363 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:39,320 Speaker 1: all those people want you're yelling for me to go 364 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,240 Speaker 1: for it when it's fourth and one on my own 365 00:18:41,520 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 1: twenty against the Pittsburgh Steelers. Okay, I want you here 366 00:18:44,440 --> 00:18:47,200 Speaker 1: with my butt on the sideline. When we don't get it, Okay, 367 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:50,200 Speaker 1: it's not as good idea then as it was. Yeah, 368 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,200 Speaker 1: go for it, go for it. But you you you look, 369 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: you come to recognize that, particularly in this business. You 370 00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,560 Speaker 1: look through the prison, there's only one lens. It either 371 00:19:00,600 --> 00:19:03,040 Speaker 1: works or it doesn't. It doesn't matter how well fought out, 372 00:19:04,119 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 1: how well deserving or whatever a decision may have been. 373 00:19:07,760 --> 00:19:10,280 Speaker 1: If it works, you're a genius. If it doesn't, you're 374 00:19:10,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 1: the village idiot. How has it change and how does 375 00:19:14,080 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 1: it feel when you walk into the building now, because 376 00:19:16,000 --> 00:19:17,879 Speaker 1: you still obviously have relationships with a lot of people here. 377 00:19:17,960 --> 00:19:21,359 Speaker 1: Kevin Byrne as he Knewsome, Steve Like, when was the 378 00:19:21,400 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: first time you came back into the building. Yeah, it 379 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:26,480 Speaker 1: was interesting. I had done a I was doing a 380 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: Ravens game when I was with Fox. Okay, so that 381 00:19:28,840 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 1: was the very first time. The next year and you know, 382 00:19:31,160 --> 00:19:34,560 Speaker 1: this was probably I'm trying to remember maybe three years 383 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:38,640 Speaker 1: removed to where I actually did a Ravens game, and 384 00:19:38,760 --> 00:19:41,640 Speaker 1: so yeah, coming back into the building to do the 385 00:19:41,680 --> 00:19:44,760 Speaker 1: Friday you know, production being like you do. So there's 386 00:19:44,760 --> 00:19:49,679 Speaker 1: certainly clearly enough players still that that I was familiar with, 387 00:19:49,720 --> 00:19:51,359 Speaker 1: and of course still had a relationship with many of 388 00:19:51,359 --> 00:19:54,679 Speaker 1: the people in the organization. Um, it was great, and 389 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 1: I credit them both here and at the stadium. People 390 00:19:57,080 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 1: have been great, they really have. I must say, Um, 391 00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 1: I've never had since had a single incident, And it's 392 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,000 Speaker 1: surprising because you would have thought, whether again it's about time, 393 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:13,919 Speaker 1: whether it's at the airport, whether it's that someone you know, 394 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,159 Speaker 1: whether they've been imbibing too long or whatever. You know, 395 00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:20,960 Speaker 1: not a single one. I have not had a single 396 00:20:21,920 --> 00:20:24,880 Speaker 1: negative incident where someone felt like they wanted to vet 397 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,680 Speaker 1: because I cost them, They bet us on the margin 398 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: and lost some better angry because you want a Super Bowl. Yeah, 399 00:20:33,240 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: And it's it's it's like I say, it's humbling, and 400 00:20:35,800 --> 00:20:39,080 Speaker 1: it's gratifying. Uh and and and this is home for me, 401 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,600 Speaker 1: and so to be able to come back and to 402 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:44,880 Speaker 1: do the preseason games, I'm thrilled to this. Someone asked 403 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: the other day, they go, well, why why it takes long? 404 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: Why why are you doing it now? Because they asked 405 00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,280 Speaker 1: the first time they've asked, I'm so sure this is great. 406 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,439 Speaker 1: When you walk through the halls, does it feel like, man, 407 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,000 Speaker 1: it was just yesterday that does driving in so it 408 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:59,080 Speaker 1: feels like, yes, doesn't feel like for having that turn 409 00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,800 Speaker 1: in and oh wow. And then you're walking up and 410 00:21:01,840 --> 00:21:05,000 Speaker 1: down and and and particularly walking down the corridor that 411 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: leads to the coaching wing that still has you know, 412 00:21:08,000 --> 00:21:12,320 Speaker 1: they have these beautiful bronze plated figurines at the end 413 00:21:12,359 --> 00:21:16,359 Speaker 1: of each hall, and and uh that there's a kicker. 414 00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:19,679 Speaker 1: That's the that's the image I had to see, was 415 00:21:19,720 --> 00:21:23,560 Speaker 1: a kicker because I'm walking into the coaches wing going 416 00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: put up football player. I don't want to damn kicker. No, 417 00:21:30,840 --> 00:21:34,840 Speaker 1: I feel that it's very They're very specialized. It's a 418 00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: unique talent. They are not football player. It's a very 419 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: special you got and I had the best with Matt Stover, 420 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: the absolute best. They don't train like that, they don't 421 00:21:44,600 --> 00:21:47,520 Speaker 1: prepare like that, they don't have meetings like a football player. 422 00:21:47,720 --> 00:21:50,520 Speaker 1: It's different. What can you say about you know, on 423 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: a more serious they're just after a team doesn't make 424 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 1: the playoffs and back to back years after the excellence. 425 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,040 Speaker 1: The bar here is high, as you will know, what 426 00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:02,960 Speaker 1: are what are the conversations like right now? What's going 427 00:22:03,000 --> 00:22:06,080 Speaker 1: through people's heads when when the pressure is high? Well, 428 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:10,879 Speaker 1: and what we'll we'll start the proverbial coaches on the 429 00:22:10,920 --> 00:22:13,159 Speaker 1: hot seat in my work for the NFL network, and 430 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,159 Speaker 1: we know the first week it will be okay, and 431 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: they'll put that list out there. Right. My point would be, 432 00:22:18,760 --> 00:22:21,960 Speaker 1: unless your name is Bill Belichick, I'm not sure there's 433 00:22:21,960 --> 00:22:24,360 Speaker 1: any coach in the National Football League that has sent 434 00:22:24,480 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 1: back going, oh, I'm good to go here. I'm set 435 00:22:26,720 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 1: this thing. This is that's just not with life the 436 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,280 Speaker 1: National Football League is about. We were just talking about 437 00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:35,440 Speaker 1: in a production meeting how coordinators jobs have become more 438 00:22:35,480 --> 00:22:41,720 Speaker 1: intensified because we fired coordinators in preseason because of expectations 439 00:22:42,400 --> 00:22:46,680 Speaker 1: um around the league. We've seen that they'll be regrettably, 440 00:22:47,240 --> 00:22:50,960 Speaker 1: two or three guys a history holds during the course 441 00:22:50,960 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 1: of the season that it happened. That's just life the 442 00:22:54,600 --> 00:22:57,199 Speaker 1: National Football League. So when you're in the middle of it, 443 00:22:57,480 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: you really you kind of hold it in arm's length. Look, 444 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: I am to stand the circumstances around me, but I 445 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:05,360 Speaker 1: gotta stay focused on the things that tenant to us 446 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:09,560 Speaker 1: being successful. And if I get too drawn into that, uh, 447 00:23:09,960 --> 00:23:13,720 Speaker 1: the discussion about it, the negativity about it, even to 448 00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 1: the point where you're going, well, I got to address 449 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: with my players that that's a mistake. Just just do 450 00:23:18,400 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 1: your job. Hold that stuff at arm's length. That is 451 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: the business side of this business. The players are to 452 00:23:24,920 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: understand totally that hey, I may be gone next year, 453 00:23:28,200 --> 00:23:30,480 Speaker 1: my contract may not be up, they may cut me. 454 00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: The players live in that world constantly, so there's no 455 00:23:35,280 --> 00:23:38,920 Speaker 1: sympathy there that the head coaches maybe uh get feeling 456 00:23:38,960 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 1: a little pressure because they feel that every day. How 457 00:23:41,480 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 1: is your guys relationship change and evolved over time because 458 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,280 Speaker 1: you guys are in any unique position. Obviously you've both 459 00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 1: coached here, you both want a super Bowl here, there's 460 00:23:49,400 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: two guys that have done it, and you are the 461 00:23:50,880 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: only two. So you are the only ones that know 462 00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:55,120 Speaker 1: what it takes to do that, the pressure that comes 463 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: along with it. Have the shared experiences, as I always 464 00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 1: made it akin that's wise movie stars Mary other movie 465 00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,480 Speaker 1: started because they're the only ones that really know what 466 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:06,040 Speaker 1: that world is about. And John and I have had 467 00:24:06,040 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 1: a great relationship. I can't say we've had sat and 468 00:24:08,359 --> 00:24:13,200 Speaker 1: had lengthy conversations, but whenever we've interacted with with one another, 469 00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:16,280 Speaker 1: and he's always been very gracious and uh and as 470 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,000 Speaker 1: as you know, ask some questions at times about what 471 00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,040 Speaker 1: I thought of a given player they had or whatever, 472 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: given my being around the team bron training camp or 473 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 1: even the games themselves. But it's been a great relationship. 474 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit more about training camp in preseason. 475 00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: Just at this point when you're going into the first 476 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: preseason game, what is the head coach looking for? What's 477 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:38,960 Speaker 1: really important in this game. And then if you could 478 00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,120 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about this team guys you're looking 479 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,720 Speaker 1: at right now, Yeah, well it's doing purposes because obviously, 480 00:24:43,840 --> 00:24:46,160 Speaker 1: right now it has to be about evaluation. I can't 481 00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 1: let a good football player get away from this building 482 00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:52,400 Speaker 1: if we can help it, right, And you don't want 483 00:24:52,400 --> 00:24:54,840 Speaker 1: to make a mistake of thinking a player can't play 484 00:24:55,240 --> 00:24:59,040 Speaker 1: simply because he's still confused or out of his element 485 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,879 Speaker 1: and actually developed to be a pretty good player. Some 486 00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,840 Speaker 1: of those guys still are this absolute women, absolutely, so 487 00:25:04,880 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: evaluation is job one. And oh, by the way, we've 488 00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: got to get the rest of the team ready right 489 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 1: with all the changes that we're making and the things 490 00:25:12,240 --> 00:25:15,520 Speaker 1: we're doing for the regular secret season opener against Cincinnati. 491 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:20,399 Speaker 1: So you have these dual priorities sometimes work in direct 492 00:25:20,400 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: contrast to one another, and that's the tough part for 493 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,280 Speaker 1: a coach. And all right, are we in evaluation stage 494 00:25:26,320 --> 00:25:28,520 Speaker 1: here or do we need to move forward in terms 495 00:25:28,560 --> 00:25:32,840 Speaker 1: of how we're strategically or tactically with this team right now? 496 00:25:33,880 --> 00:25:37,080 Speaker 1: Obviously the toughest thing is a lot of injuries, and 497 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:39,240 Speaker 1: and if you follow around league, every team has injuries 498 00:25:39,280 --> 00:25:42,400 Speaker 1: during training camp, Ravens have been hit pretty good. So 499 00:25:42,560 --> 00:25:46,760 Speaker 1: the challenge of making sure that we are staffed in 500 00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:50,520 Speaker 1: the right areas. The offensive line has been hit. Um, 501 00:25:50,600 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: and that's the hard thing. If you visit with Ozzy 502 00:25:52,480 --> 00:25:55,119 Speaker 1: as I did last week. What keeps Azzi up at 503 00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 1: night is where where the injury is going to come. 504 00:25:58,080 --> 00:26:00,399 Speaker 1: And typically it comes at a single position, so you've 505 00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,920 Speaker 1: gotta have that ever ready list ready. It always sees 506 00:26:02,920 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: to be cornerback here well. And that although although right 507 00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:08,480 Speaker 1: now you've gotta feel like I think that had a 508 00:26:08,480 --> 00:26:11,160 Speaker 1: little something to do with signing Brandon Carr because he's 509 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: been such an iron horse from that regard, the secondary 510 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: looks really solid right now. Um. And and but it 511 00:26:17,880 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 1: doesn't take much, but the depth there looks pretty good. Um, 512 00:26:22,640 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: not only the front line depth that you have Ladarius 513 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:28,080 Speaker 1: Web that can fill in. Uh. It sounds like Candy 514 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,560 Speaker 1: is going to be back at some point, which would 515 00:26:30,560 --> 00:26:35,760 Speaker 1: be a positive. So um, from that standpoint, yes, that 516 00:26:36,040 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: at the corner position or at the secondary position looks 517 00:26:38,920 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 1: for the first time in a few years, very very solid. Now. 518 00:26:42,600 --> 00:26:45,800 Speaker 1: The offensive line the tight end position, so it just moves. 519 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:49,000 Speaker 1: It's it's like playing whack them over where is it 520 00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:52,439 Speaker 1: gonna pop up now? Right now, probably the biggest concern 521 00:26:52,560 --> 00:26:55,240 Speaker 1: is how the offensive line is going to You saw 522 00:26:55,280 --> 00:26:58,480 Speaker 1: the signing of Obviously Austin Howard has a lot to 523 00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: do with They want to see how her continues to develop. 524 00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: They gotta they gotta see how um you know nimboton Wesley? 525 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:08,640 Speaker 1: Are they going to continue on? Could they be our 526 00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:12,880 Speaker 1: swing tackle? How's Jensen doing it? Center? Uh? Do we 527 00:27:12,920 --> 00:27:16,080 Speaker 1: need not only you know, because obviously Martial, Yanda and 528 00:27:16,080 --> 00:27:18,639 Speaker 1: Alex are going to be fine, but how are we 529 00:27:18,800 --> 00:27:21,119 Speaker 1: doing it center? And we need that swing guy? Do 530 00:27:21,200 --> 00:27:23,240 Speaker 1: we have that guy on campus or is that going 531 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 1: to come from someplace else? So that's probably right now. 532 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,120 Speaker 1: The offensive line is probably where the biggest questions are 533 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 1: with regards to are we good with what we have 534 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,719 Speaker 1: on campus or do I need are we gonna be 535 00:27:35,760 --> 00:27:39,119 Speaker 1: looking to, you know, round up the usual suspects. Who's 536 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 1: one guy that you can remember when you were coaching 537 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,919 Speaker 1: that you were having some serious conversations like this guy's 538 00:27:44,920 --> 00:27:46,560 Speaker 1: on the bubble, We're not sure if he's gonna make 539 00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:48,840 Speaker 1: the fifty three. You're betting back and forth, and you 540 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:50,800 Speaker 1: kept him on the roster and you're like, oh, thank god, 541 00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 1: we didn't. I'll give you one better we it was. 542 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: John Jones was a tight end. And particularly now that 543 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: you don't have the intermediate cutdown period right now, it's 544 00:27:58,840 --> 00:28:01,760 Speaker 1: just straight now. So of that week, that last game, 545 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,399 Speaker 1: it's gonna be interesting. It's because it's a and again, 546 00:28:05,560 --> 00:28:07,919 Speaker 1: as much as you work with these guys, you know him. 547 00:28:08,160 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: It's all about numbers and this guy and you know 548 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: you know them in that capacity. Well, so it's a 549 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:16,200 Speaker 1: cast of thousands when it comes to cut down day 550 00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:18,960 Speaker 1: and the scout guys will bring a guy in and 551 00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:22,359 Speaker 1: say coach, you know, and PLoP a guy down. And 552 00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:25,400 Speaker 1: so I'm sitting and talking to a guy it turns 553 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:29,640 Speaker 1: out to be John Jones, and I'm talking to him 554 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:32,359 Speaker 1: about and it's unfortunate side of the business, YadA, YadA, 555 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,160 Speaker 1: And he's got a look on his face like he's 556 00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,040 Speaker 1: really shocked. And I'm thinking, this guy should not be 557 00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:41,080 Speaker 1: this surprise because he should know. And I realized this 558 00:28:41,160 --> 00:28:44,360 Speaker 1: is the wrong guy. They the wrong guy. John Jones 559 00:28:44,400 --> 00:28:48,960 Speaker 1: is gonna make our football I look like the village 560 00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,400 Speaker 1: idiot because I've gone through this whole spiel about what 561 00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:52,960 Speaker 1: it is to be cut and this, that and the other. 562 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: So I gotta turn around. I go, John, Now you 563 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:58,600 Speaker 1: know what it feels like to be cut. You've made 564 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,920 Speaker 1: this football team. But don't wantaver have to have this 565 00:29:01,000 --> 00:29:03,000 Speaker 1: conversation with you. You gotta work hard to get your 566 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: hit in that playbook. I get out of here and 567 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:10,239 Speaker 1: get turned it into a motivational. Uh motivational. That's being 568 00:29:10,320 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: on yours right there. Oh well you had to be. 569 00:29:13,200 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: And who's who's one guy that you did cut that 570 00:29:15,680 --> 00:29:19,280 Speaker 1: you then regretted later? Oh gosh, there's probably so many. 571 00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: Uh you know. Obviously James Harrison is the one that's 572 00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:26,000 Speaker 1: got given the career that he had. And also, by 573 00:29:26,080 --> 00:29:29,840 Speaker 1: way of disclaimer, Steelers cut him too at some point. 574 00:29:30,200 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 1: He was just such a raw talent and you knew 575 00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: the talent was there. We just we were deep at 576 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:39,040 Speaker 1: the at the position we'd hoped we could get him 577 00:29:39,040 --> 00:29:42,440 Speaker 1: in development squad wasn't gonna happen. But you knew this 578 00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: guy had talent if you could just wait long enough 579 00:29:46,280 --> 00:29:48,000 Speaker 1: to give him that chance. And I think he went 580 00:29:48,000 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 1: to Pittsburgh, got cut there, and then came back and 581 00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:52,640 Speaker 1: obviously his head was probably a Hall of Fame care 582 00:29:52,720 --> 00:29:54,440 Speaker 1: didn't he get it like NFL Europe or something that 583 00:29:54,840 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: somebody said that like he didn't want to come back 584 00:29:57,040 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 1: from NFL or something like that. There was like good 585 00:30:00,800 --> 00:30:03,160 Speaker 1: thing and he was tired of bouncing back. Something like that. 586 00:30:03,160 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: I never hear. So that's when you were That's how 587 00:30:05,240 --> 00:30:09,480 Speaker 1: smart you were coaching James Harris. It's like Brady going 588 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,840 Speaker 1: to the sixth round. Everyone can look at that. Um 589 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: so you did brought this up in your interview with 590 00:30:14,200 --> 00:30:16,440 Speaker 1: Corba last week, and there's been a lot of talk 591 00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:18,240 Speaker 1: with this defense. You people look at this defense and 592 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,600 Speaker 1: the players are not shying away from it. There's words historic, 593 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: legendary of those kinds of things where you coach a 594 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 1: pretty historic defense back in two thousand. What do you 595 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:28,920 Speaker 1: think when you hear those kinds of words that right, 596 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: you know, I saw Brandon william said, we're going to 597 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:33,160 Speaker 1: be as good as the two. I'm slow your role, 598 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:36,760 Speaker 1: You're gonna be pretty good. And and that's great that 599 00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:40,440 Speaker 1: you you covet that. Uh, those guys were so young 600 00:30:40,480 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 1: when it happened. They forget just how good that team. 601 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: When you look at the number, that team is the 602 00:30:44,720 --> 00:30:47,080 Speaker 1: number one scoring defense in the history of the league 603 00:30:47,360 --> 00:30:49,560 Speaker 1: and the next closest. That's to me, when you look 604 00:30:49,600 --> 00:30:52,960 Speaker 1: at records, it's how many people are around it. That 605 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,440 Speaker 1: record will never be broken, right, and the league has changed, 606 00:30:56,480 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: true degree, I understand that, but that that that that 607 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 1: record will never be broken. So that's pretty substantial on 608 00:31:02,960 --> 00:31:05,120 Speaker 1: a year when you won the Super Bowl. That was 609 00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,320 Speaker 1: the thing. I remember when we were on this target 610 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:10,000 Speaker 1: to be the greatest single season scoring defense in the 611 00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,320 Speaker 1: history or whatever. People kept saying, yeah, yeah, but it 612 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 1: doesn't kind of if you don't win the Super Bowl, 613 00:31:13,880 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: kind of dismissing us. It was okay, we'll go when 614 00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:19,160 Speaker 1: because you remember when the Bears did it. The record 615 00:31:19,200 --> 00:31:21,000 Speaker 1: we were breaking was in a year that the Bears 616 00:31:21,000 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: did not go to the Super Bowl, So that was 617 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,360 Speaker 1: always the qualifier. So that's gonna be my qualifier. Okay, 618 00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,040 Speaker 1: you gotta you gotta do that, and you gotta win 619 00:31:28,080 --> 00:31:30,840 Speaker 1: a Super Having said that, this is pretty good defense. 620 00:31:31,200 --> 00:31:33,479 Speaker 1: You know when when you look at the great thing 621 00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,720 Speaker 1: about those defenses leading up even to the second Super 622 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:42,000 Speaker 1: Bowl is you had those huge anchors at every level. 623 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,680 Speaker 1: You had Helodi Nada, We of course had Tony Sara 624 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,080 Speaker 1: Goose and Sam Adams. You have a Trrell Suggs on 625 00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:51,240 Speaker 1: the outside. We had Peter bowl Ware and and uh, 626 00:31:51,920 --> 00:31:55,240 Speaker 1: Michael McCrary. We had a Ray Lewis at the second level, 627 00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: we had a Rod Woodson and then at Read at 628 00:31:58,120 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: the back end. Now, I'm not gonna embarrass those guys 629 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: and try to put them in those categories. Just yeah, 630 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:06,320 Speaker 1: Brandon Williams in the middle is pretty dumb good. That's 631 00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,160 Speaker 1: a dominant pressure. Tarrell sucks coming off the edge. I 632 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,760 Speaker 1: don't know if Troll can be a double sack double 633 00:32:11,760 --> 00:32:16,080 Speaker 1: digit sack guy again, but he'll be close. Uh. C 634 00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: J looks really solid at the linebacker good. And now 635 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:24,200 Speaker 1: you've got two really good safeties, uh with Wettle and 636 00:32:24,600 --> 00:32:27,680 Speaker 1: Jefferson and and and solid at the corner. So I 637 00:32:27,720 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: think you've got enough anchors in all the key areas 638 00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:32,760 Speaker 1: that this defense has a chance really to be one 639 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:35,000 Speaker 1: of the best in the league. You wrote Ray Lewis. 640 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: All three of us have heard plenty of Ray Lewis 641 00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,719 Speaker 1: uh speeches, motivational talks over the years. Some you know, 642 00:32:42,040 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 1: I don't know where Ray's going with some of them. 643 00:32:44,120 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 1: How many times would Ray get on a spiel and 644 00:32:46,280 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: you would be in a team meeting and you would 645 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,600 Speaker 1: just say, I don't know what he's talking about, but 646 00:32:49,600 --> 00:32:52,840 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna let him go. Absolutely no idea what 647 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:56,040 Speaker 1: he's says. But Ray was Ray was strategic about that. 648 00:32:56,240 --> 00:32:58,920 Speaker 1: He would come to me maybe three times this season 649 00:33:00,000 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: of the pregame sent coach, and he was always very respectful. 650 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: That's the thing I always appreciate about ray Lewis, because 651 00:33:05,640 --> 00:33:07,560 Speaker 1: if anybody could have kind of really acted anyway you 652 00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:10,720 Speaker 1: wanted to, it would be coach. I'd like to I said, 653 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: you're on man, go my big but my best. Ray 654 00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: Lewis motivational talk, his stories. We're playing the year week 655 00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: set the all time UH scoring record and total number 656 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 1: of shutouts. Who we're playing Cleveland Browns. We're playing in Baltimore, 657 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:27,680 Speaker 1: and they're terrible. I think they've got Spurgeon win at quarterbacks. 658 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,960 Speaker 1: So my guys are feeling they're gonna we're getting a shutout. 659 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: And I used to run the scout teams. That was 660 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 1: my way of touching every player and also knowing what 661 00:33:35,920 --> 00:33:38,920 Speaker 1: the schemes were. So I ran the offensive scout team. 662 00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:40,840 Speaker 1: I faced our defense every day and I could see 663 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: the God these guys are on it. They're gonna kick 664 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,760 Speaker 1: but this week because they wanted they saw a shutout. Well, 665 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland comes out first series, starting the sixteen yard line, 666 00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 1: eighty four yards length of the field, first score, and 667 00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,840 Speaker 1: we're just stunned. So I walked towards they're coming off 668 00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 1: the field, and I'm walking towards that. I'm gonna do 669 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,640 Speaker 1: my head coaching thing. Ray comes off raised the first 670 00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:05,280 Speaker 1: one off. He looks at me, he says, don't say 671 00:34:05,280 --> 00:34:08,319 Speaker 1: a word. I got it. So I like, turn left 672 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,120 Speaker 1: to the gatorade and get out of the way. I 673 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,239 Speaker 1: don't know what he said to those guys. We gave 674 00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 1: up eighty four yards on the first drive. We gave 675 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:21,800 Speaker 1: up a hundred and twenty yards total on the day. 676 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 1: They they regretted scoring that as it was a total 677 00:34:26,560 --> 00:34:31,680 Speaker 1: ass whoop. That's awesome. I'm curious. How many games do 678 00:34:31,719 --> 00:34:34,480 Speaker 1: you think more games slash super Bowls? Do you think 679 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:35,960 Speaker 1: you would have won if you had Joe Flack it 680 00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,879 Speaker 1: was your quarterback back? Then? Oh that's not Yeah, that's 681 00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,799 Speaker 1: a hard one. I will say this, I do, and 682 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,919 Speaker 1: it was my It was that way in Minnesota as well. 683 00:34:45,000 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: For whatever reason, um we had got in Minnesota, we 684 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 1: went through a littney of quarterbacks from uh, I had 685 00:34:54,040 --> 00:34:56,120 Speaker 1: Warren Moon on some great ones. I had Warren Moon, 686 00:34:56,160 --> 00:35:00,600 Speaker 1: I had a Brad Johnson. Um we we Shawn's Halsbury, 687 00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:04,960 Speaker 1: I mean we uh, Jim McMahon, I mean and and 688 00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 1: obviously went through a litany of quarterbacks here. I do 689 00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,399 Speaker 1: look with a bit of an envious high the idea of, boy, 690 00:35:12,440 --> 00:35:14,440 Speaker 1: how great would it have been to gone through a 691 00:35:14,560 --> 00:35:18,439 Speaker 1: stretch where I started each year knowing I was set 692 00:35:18,440 --> 00:35:21,200 Speaker 1: at the quarterback position that asked I would have loved 693 00:35:21,200 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 1: to have coached Joe, but to just have to know 694 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:28,879 Speaker 1: that there was stability at that position going forward, transitioning 695 00:35:28,920 --> 00:35:31,920 Speaker 1: from one year to the next, is is a gift 696 00:35:32,000 --> 00:35:35,560 Speaker 1: I was never given that that would have been. That 697 00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:39,239 Speaker 1: would have been fun, right, cool. I think that's all 698 00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:42,400 Speaker 1: the questions. Very good. Look forward to listen to you 699 00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:44,080 Speaker 1: on the broadcast. We're looking forward to it, all right. 700 00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:47,840 Speaker 1: Thank you. Thank you to coach Billick as he exits 701 00:35:47,840 --> 00:35:52,239 Speaker 1: the room here. Awesome perspective, man, It's it's pretty cool. 702 00:35:52,560 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: You really do see that after you get out of coaching, 703 00:35:55,360 --> 00:36:00,439 Speaker 1: you have this broader view of things. Yeah, it's pretty cool. Yeah, 704 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:01,960 Speaker 1: And like I said to him, I mean he's just 705 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:05,520 Speaker 1: in this unique situation where he's there's two guys that 706 00:36:05,520 --> 00:36:08,560 Speaker 1: have won Super Bowls as Baltimore Ravens head coaches, and 707 00:36:08,600 --> 00:36:10,520 Speaker 1: it's him a coach Hardball and they share that bond. 708 00:36:10,920 --> 00:36:12,640 Speaker 1: And I think it's cool that he's back here. You know, 709 00:36:12,680 --> 00:36:14,680 Speaker 1: I don't think that that's not the case at every 710 00:36:14,840 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 1: team that a coach has success, think is fired and 711 00:36:18,040 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: then and then still has a close relationship with the organization. 712 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:22,800 Speaker 1: I mean, he's fans are gonna be in for a 713 00:36:22,840 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: treat when he's on a precis of broadcast. I think 714 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,320 Speaker 1: that's gonna be something that's, you know, really really appealing. 715 00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 1: And it's just it's great to sit down with him 716 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,399 Speaker 1: and talk and share some Story's a great storyteller. Yeah, 717 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:33,480 Speaker 1: glad he didn't go down the journalism route like me 718 00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:35,560 Speaker 1: and you. Right, I think you'll ever be a head 719 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:39,160 Speaker 1: coach one day, Coach, Right, we have the communications background. 720 00:36:39,160 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: At some point, you never know, you may call us 721 00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:44,080 Speaker 1: up and say you want to go to the advance 722 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:47,239 Speaker 1: for the stealers this week. Sure, coach, I'm ready put 723 00:36:47,239 --> 00:36:49,560 Speaker 1: me in. Then a couple of years later, Coach and 724 00:36:49,560 --> 00:36:52,600 Speaker 1: the Best Defense whole novel Lombardy. That's gonna be you, 725 00:36:53,600 --> 00:36:58,719 Speaker 1: definitely gonna be me. You never know. The closest you'll 726 00:36:58,719 --> 00:37:00,560 Speaker 1: ever come to the Little Barty was on the back 727 00:37:00,600 --> 00:37:02,319 Speaker 1: of the airplane on our way back from super Bowl. 728 00:37:02,320 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: That was pretty cool. It ain't bad. That ain't bad. 729 00:37:06,760 --> 00:37:08,960 Speaker 1: But anyway, thank you for everybody, or thank you to 730 00:37:09,080 --> 00:37:12,239 Speaker 1: everybody for listening. We're gonna keep the good guests coming. Man. 731 00:37:12,239 --> 00:37:14,719 Speaker 1: We had Roger Goodell, then Brian Bill like we're we 732 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: have a lot in store for this podcast. Uh So 733 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:20,520 Speaker 1: keep tuning in and as always, you can email us 734 00:37:20,560 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: at the lounge at Ravens dot NFL dot net. It 735 00:37:23,120 --> 00:37:26,000 Speaker 1: give us the five stars on Apple. We haven't on iTunes. 736 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:27,799 Speaker 1: We haven't really begged for that recently. Yeah, we want 737 00:37:27,840 --> 00:37:29,960 Speaker 1: to go back to We're not above begging. Nope, not 738 00:37:30,000 --> 00:37:32,239 Speaker 1: at all, not by any means. So thanks once again 739 00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:41,160 Speaker 1: and we'll be back with you next week.