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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of The Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast.

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Speaker 2: Wednesday edition of The Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Show

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Speaker 2: kicks off right now.

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Speaker 3: Funny Clay, Yes, I was talking to carry my wife.

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Speaker 3: I think the audience all know that now.

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Speaker 2: And we joked around about how it would feel like

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Speaker 2: a very different show if it were our first names

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Speaker 2: instead of our middle names. The Richard Travis and James

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Speaker 2: Sexton Hour. It sounds like a couple of guys on

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Speaker 2: NPR talking about their favorite international music or something. You

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Speaker 2: know what I mean, You know, oh I love this

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Speaker 2: Actually Sweden, those guys would know how to test to

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Speaker 2: tell the difference between bottles of wine. Oh, they definitely would.

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Speaker 2: They would not be making statements Philipstine barbarous statements about

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Speaker 2: how you can't tell the difference between fancy and non

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Speaker 2: fancy wine. But anyway, so yes, we are not doing

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Speaker 2: the Richard Travis and James Sexton Hour, although that would

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Speaker 2: maybe one day we'll show up with monocles and ascots

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Speaker 2: and talk about different things, and that would be April Fools,

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Speaker 2: all right. So yes, yes, the big news from last night,

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Speaker 2: Nicky Haley loses, but not that badly, right. I mean,

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Speaker 2: the the management of expectations here is intrict. But let's

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Speaker 2: break this down, give you a sense of what some

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Speaker 2: of the data tells us, because we want to take

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Speaker 2: a forward look now here.

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Speaker 3: Here's where we are.

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Speaker 2: Donald Trump is barring you know, force masure catastrophe, something

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Speaker 2: that is unforeseeable at this moment. Donald Trump is going

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Speaker 2: to be the nominee for the Republican Party. That leaves

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Speaker 2: open a very small window for something else. But it

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Speaker 2: is a very very small window. I mean, I think

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Speaker 2: it's it's likelier that China will invade Taiwan in the

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Speaker 2: next year than it is that Donald Trump will not

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Speaker 2: be the nominee for the Republican Party.

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Speaker 3: That's how far I would go. So here's what we know.

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Speaker 2: Nicky Haley Clay, she loses to Donald Trump eleven points

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Speaker 2: in the New Hand I'm sure primary, so Donald Trump

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Speaker 2: Nicky Haley had to head.

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Speaker 3: We'll also get into some of the Democrats stuff as well.

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Speaker 3: Dean Phillips. People are he's making more noise than a

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Speaker 3: lot of folks thought he.

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Speaker 2: Would, at least right now, which is perhaps something we

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Speaker 2: should have expected. But here we go. This is first

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Speaker 2: up Nicky Haley last night. Let's give her her say.

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Speaker 2: This is cut two and she says the race is

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Speaker 2: far from over.

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Speaker 4: I want to congratulate Donald Trump on his victory tonight.

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Speaker 4: He earned it, and I want to acknowledge that. Now

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Speaker 4: you've all heard the chatter among the political class. They're

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Speaker 4: falling all over themselves saying this race is over. Well,

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Speaker 4: I have news for all of them. New Hampshire is

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Speaker 4: first in the nation. It is not the last in

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Speaker 4: the nation. This race is far from over. There are

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Speaker 4: dozens of states left to go, and the next one

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Speaker 4: is my sweet state of self.

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Speaker 2: Caroline, all right, we want to jump in now or

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Speaker 2: because Trump Trump trash what she said, we'll get to that.

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Speaker 5: Let's start with what she says. Your reaction it's over

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Speaker 5: and I so Nicky Haley deserves credit for coming in

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Speaker 5: second place. There is no pathway to her becoming the nominee.

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Speaker 5: And let me just say this. If you disagree eight

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Speaker 5: hundred and two eight two two eight eight two, tell

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Speaker 5: me and or tell Buck, because I think you agree

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Speaker 5: with me. As you just said at the open Trump

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Speaker 5: is going to be the nominee. And I'm not talking

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Speaker 5: about Oh Trump has a major health condition, or the

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Speaker 5: Supreme Court out of nowhere suddenly says, oh, guess what

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Speaker 5: Trump can be kept off the ballots?

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Speaker 3: Right, I'm not.

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Speaker 5: Talking about a highly implausible but very impactful an area.

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Speaker 5: We could also get hit by an asteroid and the

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Speaker 5: election could not happen in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 5: There are all sorts of low probability, high impact events

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Speaker 5: that are out there. But something that Nicky Haley can

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Speaker 5: control herself beating Donald Trump. She does not have that

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Speaker 5: to smoke Nicky Haley in South Carolina. I'm in Tennessee, Buck,

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Speaker 5: Tennessee votes on March the fifth. Trump is going to

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Speaker 5: beat Nicky Haley in my home state of Tennessee by

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Speaker 5: forty points. I don't see a state where Nicki Haley

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Speaker 5: is to beat Joe Biden, which I take Nicki Haley

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Speaker 5: at her word, it is, I don't understand her pathway

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Speaker 5: here and Buck, this is the same argument we made

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Speaker 5: was New Hampshire. She put all of her eggs in

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Speaker 5: the New Hampshire basket. To her credit, she came within

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Speaker 5: eleven but that was with very lenient abilities of people

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Speaker 5: to vote in the New Hampshire primary. Republicans are rejecting her.

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Speaker 5: In all these states where Republicans are going to be

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Speaker 5: more prominent, she's going to lose by more. There is

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Speaker 5: no pathway to Nicki Haley becoming the nominee.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so now we look at what is the calculation

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Speaker 2: that she's making and will it extend to her taking

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Speaker 2: this not just to first step South Carolina her home state,

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Speaker 2: can on the we can do a little pro and

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Speaker 2: con here right on the pro side of things. From

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Speaker 2: Nicki Haley's perspective, there's not like a governorship she has

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Speaker 2: to get back to.

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 2: Ronda Santley's like, all right, I'm out. I'm gonna go

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Speaker 2: back to being the governor of a twenty one million

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Speaker 2: person state. You know, I got things to do, Nicki Haley.

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Speaker 2: I mean she was on the boards of companies and

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Speaker 2: for the presidency for the last few years. So that

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Speaker 2: means that as long as she's in the public eye,

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Speaker 2: you can make a case that it is brand enhancing

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Speaker 2: for her, setting up the future for her. However, the

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Speaker 2: conside of this, I think one, going into your home

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Speaker 2: state and getting just shellacked is a bad idea because

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Speaker 2: it just looks like, really, you're gonna you're gonna lose into.

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Speaker 3: The state where you were the governor.

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Speaker 2: And Two, I think that people are going to start

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Speaker 2: to feel like she's draining resources from the general election

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Speaker 2: fight on a vanity project, and the GOP base, which

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Speaker 2: is behind Trump, will not forgive or forget that.

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Speaker 5: Look, I agree with everything you just said. I also

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Speaker 5: think Nicki Haley deserves credit. And this is what we

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Speaker 5: have said since all of.

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Speaker 3: These debates started. And I know this makes people upset.

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Speaker 5: I actually think Nicki Haley would not be a bad

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Speaker 5: vice presidential pick for Donald Trump. I understand people out

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Speaker 5: there get upset, and probably the emails are rolling in

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Speaker 5: right now, Travis on Twitter. That was Clay who was

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Speaker 5: saying that my mentions are gonna get deluged. Here's the deal.

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Speaker 5: All I care about is winning, right, I'm not a

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Speaker 3: All I care about is winning.

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Speaker 5: And Nicki Haley does do well with suburban women who

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Speaker 5: are independent swing voters and the people that are persuadable.

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Speaker 5: And I'm not sure Buck, at this point in time,

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Speaker 5: Trump would pick that would help him win the general

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Speaker 5: election as a vice presidential candidate more than Nicky Haley. Right,

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Speaker 5: let's consider I like elist Stephonic. I love the way

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Speaker 5: she stood up to Harvard and MIT and Penn. I

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Speaker 5: think she's pretty smart. I think she's a talented politician.

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Speaker 5: I don't think she brings anything new. I like Tim Scott.

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Speaker 5: If you wanted to argue to me, oh that he

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Speaker 5: is going to help with the black vote, maybe I

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Speaker 5: squint black men and can see that a little bit.

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Speaker 5: But I don't think he really changes the dynamic very much.

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Speaker 2: Trump is probably on path right now to overperform for

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Speaker 2: I'm not sure that Ed moves the needle anymore.

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Speaker 5: And and by the way, I don't know that Tim

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Speaker 5: Scott really does a good job against Kamala Harris, where

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Speaker 5: I think at least Stephanic could let him, let her

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Speaker 5: have it.

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Speaker 3: I think, yeah, yeah, this is this is it. But see,

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Speaker 3: now we're talking to VP.

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Speaker 2: We got a factor in, well what did Trump say

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Speaker 2: in response to I we played Haley soundby She's like

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Speaker 2: a big congratulation to Donald Trump. But this is not over.

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Speaker 2: Trump is like, well, you know what, let's just hear

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Speaker 3: She was up and I said, wow, she's doing like

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Speaker 3: a speech like she won. She didn't win.

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Speaker 2: She lost. This is not your typical victory speech. But

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Speaker 2: let's not have somebody take a victory when she.

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Speaker 3: Had a very bad night. She had a very bad night.

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Speaker 6: And you.

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Speaker 2: Have the very the now very unpopular governor of this state.

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Speaker 3: This guy, he's got to be on something.

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Speaker 2: I've never seen anybody with energy. He's like a Popscotch

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Speaker 3: And two weeks ago said we're gonna win.

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Speaker 3: That's a big difference.

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Speaker 2: So I'll say this right now, Nikki Haley is being

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Speaker 2: treated by Trump and MAGA as the enemy in this election,

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Speaker 2: so to speak, right, I mean she is, she's the them,

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Speaker 2: She's not the she's not with us. She could turn

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Speaker 2: that around very quickly. I think through a negotiation and

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Speaker 2: a discussion about Nicky Haley. Look, you want a prediction,

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Speaker 2: I think Clay I don't disagree with his assessment that

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Speaker 2: she may be helpful in some ways to the ticket.

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Speaker 2: Although there are some numbers well, actually she might be

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Speaker 2: helpful with those numbers. There are some troubling GOP numbers

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Speaker 2: though from New Hampshire. Not troubling, like, oh my gosh,

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Speaker 2: but you know a little bit of a wrinkle in

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Speaker 2: things for Trump. We can we'll dive into that in

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Speaker 2: a few minutes. But you look at Nikki Haley, Clay,

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Speaker 2: and this is somebody who I think would would help

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Speaker 2: with suburban voters. However, Nikki Haley as Secretary of State,

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Speaker 2: she'd be perfectly happy doing that job. Maybe Rick Marnell's

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Speaker 2: happy being CIA director, and that's you start to see

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Speaker 2: how now is the time? Because if I'm Nicki Haley,

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Speaker 2: I sit down with with Donald Trump and say, look,

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Speaker 2: you know, let's do this and I'll save you tens

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Speaker 2: of millions of spend which he may not have to spend.

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Speaker 3: To be clear, maybe he says I don't need you.

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Speaker 3: I don't need that.

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Speaker 2: But that would be the smartest play from my perspective

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Speaker 2: for her because going and getting blown out in South Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I don't think she'll be VP Clay, but I do

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Speaker 2: think there's a cabinet position if she steps If she

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Speaker 2: steps down sooner than later.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, secretary of state would be good. And let me

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Speaker 5: say this, I know a lot of the Trump people listen.

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Speaker 5: I would suggest, first of all, Trump's right, they need

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Speaker 5: to pivot to the general and we're going to have

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Speaker 5: a two hundred and fifty day whatever it is, general

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Speaker 5: gonna end up getting stepped.

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Speaker 3: Down, forced out. But a lot.

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Speaker 6: Right.

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Speaker 2: He admits that he has said that, just so anyone

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Speaker 5: In some cases he hired good people. I think he's

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Speaker 5: So when he put out in twenty sixteen his list,

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Speaker 3: That would be my suggestion.

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Speaker 2: There are some concerns that have come from the day. Look,

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Speaker 2: Is there a problem with some Republican voters who are

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Speaker 2: about why Nicky Haley should stay in I'm sure plenty

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Speaker 1: One truth revealed after another Clay Travis and Buck Sexton Welcome.

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Speaker 5: Back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. A lot of

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Speaker 5: people fired up about my Nicky Haley VP suggestion. But

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Speaker 5: Chip from Charlotte, North Carolina is a brilliant, brilliant man.

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Speaker 3: Clay and Buck. I'm a Trump voter and I hope

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Speaker 5: However, I feel the only way he can beat Biden

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Speaker 5: four years. I fear our great USA will have an

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Speaker 3: I agree.

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Speaker 5: I think that that both Chip is both a scholar

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Speaker 2: There's a little bit of a little bit of an

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Speaker 6: Now.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if this is just sour grapes, let's

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Speaker 2: We're gonna analyze and we're gonna talk to you about it.

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Speaker 2: There's some stuff to take a look at here.

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Speaker 5: Things to.

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Speaker 2: First off, this is from the Wall Street Journal when

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Speaker 3: For him, I think they may change their minds. This

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Speaker 5: I think people will come back to Trump as the

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Speaker 5: campaign progresses. This is also, though, why I would say

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Speaker 5: list of who he's going to potentially appoint to the

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Speaker 3: If there are issues associated.

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Speaker 5: With that, and then I think the other aspect of

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Speaker 5: part of this discussion. Trump's only got four years and

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Speaker 5: so even if you don't like Trump, Buck, I wonder

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Speaker 5: how much of the antipathy for Trump that exists out

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Speaker 5: there would be lessened if people knew the reality, which

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Speaker 5: is he's only really got two years to do things,

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Speaker 5: and people out there can get fired up, and they

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Speaker 5: can by the time if you are elame duck and

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Speaker 5: Trump or Biden, if either one of them wins, will

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Speaker 5: be a lame duck by the time you get to

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Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. Sorry, yeah, twenty twenty six is basically

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Speaker 5: over right the midterms, and then the election is starting

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Speaker 5: for twenty twenty eight, So I think that factors in.

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Speaker 5: And then I think the other component here is and

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Speaker 5: I would just hammered this home Trump should start the

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Speaker 5: general election campaign now, and a lot of these and

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Speaker 5: I would tell I don't know how much the conversation

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Speaker 5: there is with the crazy right wingers on social media

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Speaker 5: who are trying to constantly police who is a rhino

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Speaker 5: and who's in good standing with MAGA and everything else.

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Speaker 5: I think Trump needs to tell them that they're hurting

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Speaker 5: more than they're helping, because this is not a Republican

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Speaker 5: campaign anymore. The goal of winning is and this is

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Speaker 5: why some of you are gonna get fired up. But

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Speaker 5: why I say Nikki Haley makes sense is to convince people,

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Speaker 5: convince people who are not traditional Trump voters that they

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Speaker 5: should be interested in Trump. And it's not about getting

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Speaker 5: the die hard right wing you know, build the wall immediately,

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Speaker 5: maga voter. It's about getting the thirty six year old

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Speaker 5: mom of three in Gwinnett County and Georgia to decide

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Speaker 5: that they want to Cob County, Georgia that they're willing

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Speaker 5: to support Donald Trump.

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Speaker 3: That's who you're actually after now.

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Speaker 2: And I do think it's something that we have to

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Speaker 2: note because we are keeping an eye on this all

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Speaker 2: the time. The polls in Ile were pretty much spot

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Speaker 2: on the polls in New Hampshire. Nicky Haley overperformed or

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Speaker 2: outperformed the polls. Yeah, by a pretty substantial margin. Now

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Speaker 2: she's still lost. So the polls weren't wrong in the

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Speaker 2: sense that they were so off that you had a

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Speaker 2: different outcome, but she did better that I know. We'll

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Speaker 2: take some of your calls here. We know that there

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Speaker 2: are independents who can switch and vote for her, We

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Speaker 2: know that there are Democrats. We can get into those

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Speaker 2: details if you want, but neither Clayton nor I are

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Speaker 2: unaware of the specifics of New Hampshire. Nonetheless, I'm just

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Speaker 2: saying Nicki Haley did better than the polls for New

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Speaker 2: Hampshire thought she would do. So there can be some

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Speaker 2: surprises in this. And this is a way of saying

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Speaker 2: that while poles can give us a sense, they are

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Speaker 2: not ironclad. And so the Trump polls that show him ahead,

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Speaker 2: you know, points in Michigan or eight points in Michigan

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Speaker 2: and four in Georgia, whatever it is, those things can

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Speaker 2: be a little off and they can narrow very quickly.

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Speaker 2: So I just think it's a reminder that Trump and

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Speaker 2: the GOP have to really keep focused. There is no

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Speaker 2: coasting that will get this done.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, and I think also Buck the other thing to

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Speaker 5: keep in mind is polls become difficult to read when

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Speaker 5: you don't know what the turnout's going to be. That's

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Speaker 5: typically when poles start to lose their ability to predict,

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Speaker 5: because if far more people show up and there were

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Speaker 5: far more independences who showed up to vote for Nicki Haley.

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Speaker 5: I think than were anticipated, because if it's just Republicans

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Speaker 5: and Republican leading voters, Trump would have won by thirty

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Speaker 5: or forty. So again, Nicky Haley's only pathway if she

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Speaker 5: continues to run against Trump is to get a lot

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Speaker 5: of people who are non traditional Republican primary voters to

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Speaker 5: show up and vote for her. And by the way,

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Speaker 5: that's what Trump has to do in order to win

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Speaker 5: the election. So to me, I would be on the

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Speaker 5: phone with Nicki Haley behind the scenes right now if

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Speaker 5: I were a part of the Trump team, saying, Okay,

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Speaker 5: what do we do to get this thing put to bed?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 5: Trump is a negotiator. He can get angry publicly at

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Speaker 5: Nicki Haley, but I think he respects when people have

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Speaker 5: a hand to play and how that would be played out.

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Speaker 5: What I don't see, buck is I don't see how

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Speaker 5: Nicki Haley benefits by running a scorched earth Trump campaign,

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Speaker 5: which requires her to constantly say and attack Trump in

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Speaker 5: a way that would be similar to Joe Biden. She

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Speaker 5: has no chance of being the nominee. She can weaken

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Speaker 5: Trump in the process, But I think she can cut

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Speaker 5: her own legs out from underneath her as it pertains

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Speaker 5: to going forward in twenty twenty eight.

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Speaker 3: That's my big thing.

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Speaker 5: Like Nicky Haley's fifty two, she'll still only be fifty

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Speaker 5: six when it comes around to the twenty twenty eight election.

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Speaker 5: That's right in the wheelhouse of I think when your

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Speaker 5: average person would like to say, oh, that's the right

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Speaker 5: age of somebody I would like to elect to be

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Speaker 5: president of the United States. Why would she cut her

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Speaker 5: legs out from underneath her. It doesn't make to me

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Speaker 5: a lot of sense why she would run a scorched

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Speaker 5: earth campaign, And to me, she could help a lot

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Speaker 5: in setting up the table for Trump in twenty twenty four.

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Speaker 5: And even if Trump wins, she's right at the forefront again.

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Speaker 5: So remember eight hundred two two two eight A two.

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Speaker 5: We will talk all about that in a bit as

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Speaker 5: Welcome back in Clay Travis buck Sexton Show.

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Speaker 3: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us as we

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Speaker 5: The Wednesday edition of the program reacting to what happened

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Speaker 5: in the New Hampshire primary. A lot of you, not

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Speaker 5: surprisingly lined up and want to react to the opens

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Speaker 5: of the show, and so I will begin to roll

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Speaker 5: through with all of you. Avery in Columbus, Ohio, you've

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Speaker 5: got a idea for Trump on VP.

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Speaker 6: Yes, you guys kill me?

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Speaker 3: Yep, we got you.

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Speaker 6: Yeah. So my thought is, either, well, I don't Nicky

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Speaker 6: Haley is not very popular. I noticed that she said

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Speaker 6: this needs to be a VP pick. But Tucker Carlston

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Speaker 6: was not having it the other day and he said

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Speaker 6: that he staged some type of revolution against Trump's administration.

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Speaker 6: So I don't think that's a popular idea. But I

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Speaker 6: do think either Tulsey. I haven't heard anything about Tulsi

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Speaker 6: or Carrie. It'll probably get the female vote and maybe

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Speaker 6: Taulsy because she was a previous Democrat, they might get

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Speaker 6: some independence.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we've heard, Yeah, thank you for the call. We've

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Speaker 5: heard a lot of I like Tulci. We've had Tulcia

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Speaker 5: on the show, I don't.

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Speaker 3: I don't.

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Speaker 5: I don't think that she has the same kind of

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Speaker 5: appeal to sub Again, I am Look, I will be

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Speaker 5: honest with you. I am not a I'm not a Democrat,

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Speaker 5: so I can't claim to be a suburban mom.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 5: There are lots of men out there who are Democrats

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Speaker 5: that can claim that they are men who are actually

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Speaker 5: identifying as suburban moms. So I am channeling this in uh,

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Speaker 5: attempting to look at the data and project right. I

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Speaker 5: think the reason why Nikki Haley has appeal to suburban

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Speaker 5: moms is the same reason buck that Megan Kelly dominates

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Speaker 5: with suburban moms. I think there are at and they're different, right,

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Speaker 5: Megan Kelly and Nicki Haley are not.

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Speaker 3: But they are smart, good looking.

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Speaker 5: Women with families that I think a lot of suburban

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Speaker 5: women look at and say, I see myself in some

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Speaker 5: way with them. And I'm talking about independence because every

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Speaker 5: time I say this, tons of you blow me up,

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Speaker 5: and you're like, I live in the suburbs and I

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Speaker 5: love Donald Trump, and I get it. If you're again,

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Speaker 5: a lot of people can't get past thinking what you are. Right,

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Speaker 5: You're already voting for Trump, Okay, that's great, you're in

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Speaker 5: the camp. I'm talking about how you win, and the

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Speaker 5: way you win is by persuading people that are not

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Speaker 5: committed right now to a candidate. And if you look

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Speaker 5: at the data block. We talk about this a lot,

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Speaker 5: but I think it's so important. Trump lost in twenty twenty,

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Speaker 5: not because of the black vote, not because of the

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Speaker 5: Hispanic vote, not because of the Asian vote, because he

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Speaker 5: lost white women in the suburbs. Go look at Philadelphia suburbs,

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Speaker 5: Pittsburgh suburbs, Milwaukee suburbs, Atlanta suburbs, Phoenix suburbs, all of

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Speaker 5: those ring areas. All those women out there that have

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Speaker 5: kids that are focused on getting them to and from

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Speaker 5: school every day. They turned against Trump and they were

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Speaker 5: willing to vote for Biden. How do you get them back?

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Speaker 5: They like Nikki Haley, they like Megan Kelly, they like

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Speaker 5: smart women who look like them and don't seem particularly

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Speaker 5: part is And and by the way, abortion is a

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Speaker 5: big part of this.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but it is a is a female VP enough

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Speaker 2: if it's Trump who's at the top of the ticket,

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Speaker 2: that's another part of this too. Even if even if

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Speaker 2: everything you're saying completely lines up. Yeah, And I think

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Speaker 2: I think by the numbers it you know, you're just

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Speaker 2: you're you're accurate. I mean, it's correct. Do suburban women say, well,

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Speaker 2: I don't like Trump, but I like this VP he's got. Again,

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Speaker 2: it's the suburban women that you're speaking of, not the

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Speaker 2: GOP bass, which is the beating heart and soul of

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Speaker 2: this audience. Right we're talking about the I voted you know,

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Speaker 2: maybe maybe even voted for like Obama and now voted

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Speaker 2: for Trump once or twice and thinking about how they're

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Speaker 2: going to vote this time because they don't like Trump's

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Speaker 2: icky tweets. How do you well those are gone, yeah,

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Speaker 2: only truth now. But how do you get that, uh

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Speaker 2: to change? How do you get that to be a

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Speaker 2: decision point for them? I'm not sure it's quite as clear.

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Speaker 2: We have Amy in North Carolina. You didn't get to

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Speaker 2: that one yet right now in North Carolina. Oh she oh, sorry,

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Speaker 2: she did drop my bad?

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Speaker 5: Uh, Clay, you picked next Paul in Wisconsin?

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Speaker 7: Yes, sir, you know, I think I want all the

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Speaker 7: Trump supporters to reject the propaganda out there on Drudge

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Speaker 7: and elsewhere about this eleven percent had the Democrat and

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Speaker 7: independent saboteurs not showed up to vote for Nikki Ailey,

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Speaker 7: not because they like her, but because they want to

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Speaker 7: skew the numbers because they hate Trump. He would have

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Speaker 7: beat her ass by over twenty percent, and everyone knows that.

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Speaker 7: So she stands there like the fraud she is and

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Speaker 7: holds up that number and even with all that going on,

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Speaker 7: she's still lost by eleven percent. She's a fraud. Candace

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Speaker 7: Owyn's for Vice president?

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Speaker 3: Wait?

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Speaker 2: Why can't can ask you this? I mean, we both

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Speaker 2: like Candace. Why Candace for vice president? She ever said

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Speaker 2: she wanted to run?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

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Speaker 3: Is he gone? We get that?

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Speaker 5: Look, I like Candas. We've done Candas. If Candas is

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Speaker 5: on this show.

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Speaker 2: If someone asked Candace, what about Buck for VP? I

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Speaker 2: hope she'd say he's a nice guy. But like, is

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Speaker 2: he running? I mean, is Candace interested in this? I've

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Speaker 2: heard this before.

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Speaker 5: I think given the fact that Trump is seventy seven

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Speaker 5: years old and only has one term his vice president,

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Speaker 5: and we know Biden has already whipped on this, I

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Speaker 5: think Trump's vice president has to be capable of being

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Speaker 5: president of the United States. And look, I've said that

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Speaker 5: I like Tucker and you can think that that's crazy.

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Speaker 5: I think the number one attack on Tucker would be, well,

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Speaker 5: he hasn't ever worked in government, you know. I think

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Speaker 5: the one attack on me or you would be, yeah,

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Speaker 5: those guys haven't ever been in Actually some people like that,

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Speaker 5: but I think for a seventy seven year old, I

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Speaker 5: think you have to hire somebody as your VP that

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Speaker 5: would be capable of being president of the United States.

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Speaker 5: We know that Biden hasn't done that. And again I

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Speaker 5: do think my general position, and I think it's true,

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Speaker 5: is people don't decide who to vote for based on

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Speaker 5: the vice president, right, you don't lose people based on you.

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Speaker 2: There might be a tie breaker in Trump's favor at best,

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Speaker 2: I think if he were to go with that VP.

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Speaker 3: But we'll see.

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Speaker 2: You know, one thing I've been thinking about because you

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Speaker 2: brought up you alluded to Biden didn't pick someone who

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Speaker 2: was ready for prime time to be president as his VP.

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Speaker 2: I just I think about this because when we talk

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Speaker 2: about the prosecutions of Trump and was it a huge blunder,

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Speaker 2: look at the situation they're in with the presidency, where

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Speaker 2: they've got a VP who should just be stepping up

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Speaker 2: and be their candidate, and they know they can't do it.

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Speaker 2: Was a huge blunder for them, right, so they are

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Speaker 2: capable of massive miscalculation.

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Speaker 5: Did you see the report that Obama was instrumental in

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Speaker 5: Kamala being picked and that Biden didn't think she was

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Speaker 5: up to the job.

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Speaker 2: That we talk about this or we talk about that.

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Speaker 2: All right, we'll get we'll dive into it.

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Speaker 3: Stick around. Oh and Julie Kelly next. Allar