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Speaker 1: Every day up waiting, click your ass up the Breakfast Club.

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Speaker 2: You don't finished for y'all done morning everybody.

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Speaker 3: It's d J Envy, Jess Larry Charlamagne, the God. We

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Speaker 3: are the Breakfast Club. We got a special guest in

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Speaker 3: the building.

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Speaker 4: Yes, indeed, j.

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Speaker 2: D, Jermaine dupri. What's happening?

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Speaker 5: How you feeling?

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Speaker 4: You're looking at the wall, looking at the wall.

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Speaker 5: We ain't got JD on the wall.

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Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't know.

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Speaker 5: I don't think.

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Speaker 2: I don't think. I don't think I made the wall.

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Speaker 6: That's all right, that's you got JD on the wall,

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Speaker 6: y'all ain't got me up there.

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Speaker 1: See the wall represents like iconic breakfast club moments.

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Speaker 4: Not that you haven't given us great interviews.

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Speaker 2: I haven't had it. You know what I'm saying. You

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Speaker 2: have had some you know.

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Speaker 6: The studio, don't.

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Speaker 2: I'm I'm not that conversation.

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Speaker 4: But you have always coming in and gave giving us

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Speaker 4: great conversation.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 1: And I've been enjoying the Magic City docuseries and it

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Speaker 1: got me to thinking about like just Atlanta. Like in

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Speaker 1: Atlanta's had a lot of different runs as far as

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Speaker 4: But what is Atlanta culture exactly? Is it? This? Is

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Speaker 4: it the script clubs?

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that that's one of the things skating, you know,

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Speaker 6: And you know, I think like it's a bunch of

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Speaker 6: different things, like the base music and a bunch of

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Speaker 6: different things. But we haven't we've never really highlighted these

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Speaker 6: things the way I guess I'm trying to do and

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Speaker 6: make sure that people understand that that's what it is,

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Speaker 6: because I think like people think, like even with the

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Speaker 6: strip club situation, it was me and whoever else was

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Speaker 6: promoting this from a long time ago, just black people

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Speaker 6: trying to promote strip clubs.

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Speaker 2: And you learned from.

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Speaker 6: The documentary that this this was a law that was

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Speaker 6: passed in the city and might be more states in

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Speaker 6: this you know South, that nudity was something that they

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Speaker 6: opened the floodgates and made it a business.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 2: So even me growing.

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Speaker 6: Up, I never realized why it was so many strip

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Speaker 6: clubs in Atlanta. It was a strip club, damn on

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Speaker 6: every corner in every hood in Atlanta, and I never understood.

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Speaker 2: I just thought we was just a strip club place.

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Speaker 6: But when you look at this documentary, you start going

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Speaker 6: outside and looking at all the other places, like in

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Speaker 6: a law that was passed, right, And I used to

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Speaker 6: come to like New.

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Speaker 2: York when we used to do things and wherever.

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Speaker 6: I go to other cities and be like, man, why

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Speaker 6: these cities ain't popping like Atlanta with the strip clubs,

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Speaker 6: And the law is a real law that gave us

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Speaker 6: the entryway to just have this going.

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Speaker 2: So there, that's a that's an Atlanta thing. You know.

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Speaker 3: It's Magic City, the biggest strip club and the most

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Speaker 3: recognized club in the US.

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Speaker 5: To you what you think, what's your thoughts on it?

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Speaker 6: Nah, I think I mean, I think it's been It's

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Speaker 2: You know, over the years.

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Speaker 6: I think Magic is in the top three, of course,

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Speaker 6: but like booby trapping, Miami, King of Diamonds when I mean,

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Speaker 6: you know, Miami's always had you know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: They've always had these trip clubs turn over there and

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Speaker 6: be live. I think that's Houston. So I think Houston,

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Speaker 2: That's the thing.

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Speaker 6: It's like we're talking about Nudy is Flord's strip clubs

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Speaker 1: Atlanta was nudy nudity Atlanta need that infrastructure. Now, That's

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Speaker 1: what when I think about Magic City. I know people

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Speaker 1: I'm watching The Doctor, even just growing up, I.

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Speaker 4: Think of it as infrastructure. People with the break record, I.

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Speaker 6: Want to say, I mean, that's the that's the thing.

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Speaker 6: Like I was going to answer your question. The reason

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Speaker 6: why I wanted to do it is because you know,

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Speaker 6: we don't talk about the places that actually helped us

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Speaker 6: get to where we are. You know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: that part of hip hop stopped a long time ago.

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Speaker 6: Like when you watch like Style, right when there's a

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Speaker 2: I watched Wild Style.

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Speaker 6: You can see like how Grandmaster cas them what they

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Speaker 6: was doing to become and made what made hip hop

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Speaker 6: turn into what it was here in New York. And

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Speaker 6: in the later years of hip hop, what shows or anything,

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Speaker 6: show kids what how we got? You know what I mean,

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Speaker 6: how we got to where we are? And I think

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Speaker 6: that you know, it's important for black establishments to show

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Speaker 6: like it's a forty year old black establishment. The owner

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Speaker 6: went to jail, They tried to sell his property. He

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Speaker 6: took it back over and now it's back popping.

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Speaker 2: Then that he got a TV show Like.

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Speaker 6: That's American dream, you know what I mean? Like, regardless

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Speaker 6: of whatever good or bad, it's a Black American dream

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Speaker 6: that we don't ever really be talking.

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Speaker 1: About infrastructure now, huh is it needed? Now?

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Speaker 4: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: I mean we needed more than any of everybody. I mean,

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Speaker 6: not just Atlanta, like a bunch of cities need to.

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Speaker 6: It's probably a bunch of other cities has got like

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Speaker 6: forty to fifty year old black establishments that that I don't.

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Speaker 2: Even know about.

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Speaker 3: What do you think ruined strip clubs? Because at one

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Speaker 3: were always big. There was fifteen in Atlanta, there was

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Speaker 3: ten in New York. What do you think ruined the

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Speaker 3: strip club safety?

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Speaker 2: Right?

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Speaker 6: I think that's why magic stands out so much, because

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Speaker 6: you can go in magic with all your jurey on.

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Speaker 6: You can go on magic and be the biggest star

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Speaker 6: in the world and be standing next to the biggest

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Speaker 6: criminal in the world. But whatever would happen somewhere else

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Speaker 6: ain't getting ready to happen in magic.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I mean, and.

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Speaker 6: I say that proudly because even me, I go to

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Speaker 6: Magic without security, like because the security in there gonna

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Speaker 6: take care of me like they like if they was

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Speaker 2: And I feel like it's the safest club in Atlanta.

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Speaker 6: So I feel like that. I feel like the safety

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Speaker 6: of strip clubs and how Magic ran the club strip

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Speaker 6: club atiquette, I think that is that that's what killed.

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Speaker 2: Strip clubs for the most part.

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Speaker 5: Now.

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Speaker 3: Also, I notice, you know, growing up, when we used

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Speaker 3: to go to strip clubs, you go with a couple

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Speaker 5: Right, and you would you will be fine all night.

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Speaker 5: That's totally changed.

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Speaker 2: That's that's just your mental okay, Right, that's just people's.

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Speaker 6: Mental space, right, because I go to the club now

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Speaker 6: and you know, I don't if the if Magic City

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Speaker 6: is like overly crowded, I'll go stand by the bar

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Speaker 6: and I might spend five one hundred to one thousand dollars,

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Speaker 5: And by the way, that's a lot of money.

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Speaker 3: Talk about a hundred dollars a thousand dollars at the bar.

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Speaker 6: I'm just saying, let me put this in perspective, said,

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Speaker 6: what's happened the other night when Chris Brown was in Atlanta?

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Speaker 6: They spent two hundred thousand dollars in Magic City. So

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Speaker 6: my little five hundred to a thousand that corner is

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Speaker 6: like one hundred dollars man face, because.

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Speaker 4: I have when people say those numbers and I'm like,

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Speaker 4: I don't believe it.

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Speaker 2: I swear to God, I mean godred thousand, God a

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Speaker 2: hundred went to Chris, right.

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Speaker 5: I've seen people bought one hundred thousand singles.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean one hundred went to Chris without a

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Speaker 6: doubt and magic in magic they go when you when

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Speaker 6: you order the money, they bring a Magic City bag backas.

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Speaker 2: For you backpack.

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Speaker 6: So the backpack had a hundred in it. Jada Waiter,

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Speaker 6: y'all know, Ja, she got about a dog, right. I

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Speaker 6: think maybe more p from QC. I think he ordered

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Speaker 6: forty right then, and that you know that's that's one

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Speaker 6: sixty right there. You know what I'm saying. Chris by

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Speaker 6: himself had one hundred, That's what I'm saying. So if

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Speaker 6: you start splitting it up, I think Booo probably got

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Speaker 6: ten and fifteen to twenty.

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Speaker 2: You were two hundred fast.

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Speaker 1: So when you was in the back of the day

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Speaker 1: with BMF, how much did you see them spend that.

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Speaker 6: One on my album, I have a conversation with Meech

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Speaker 6: and he says he spent six hundred thousand dollars one night.

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Speaker 5: That's insanity, that's crazy.

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Speaker 4: What's the most you spent with Janet? What did you spend?

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Speaker 6: I mean I had a I had a limit, like

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Speaker 6: when everybody heard me say I spend ten thousands, that

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Speaker 6: was my limit. So once I got to that ten,

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Speaker 6: I wasn't trying. But by the way, I'm not in

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Speaker 6: there trying to compete. I always felt like, you know,

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Speaker 6: BMF grew, because I've been in the club with meet

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Speaker 6: for a long time before BMF was a crew like that,

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Speaker 6: and we used to be at the Gentleman's Club back

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Speaker 6: and when you watched the episode where Magic supposedly was

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Speaker 6: burnt down or whatever, and everybody went to the Gentlemen's Club,

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Speaker 6: met Meech, and Meech didn't have the crew, the crew

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Speaker 6: of people with him, and we was in the Gentleman's

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Speaker 6: Club and then the Gentlemen's Club. It wasn't about it

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Speaker 6: wasn't it was like what he saying, We wasn't really

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Speaker 6: throwing the money. We was just like giving the girls

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Speaker 6: the money, right. And that's that's where I that's where

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Speaker 6: the whole confusion about who started throwing the money came

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Speaker 6: from because I start I started doing this in Money

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Speaker 6: and the Thing video, And I know people want to

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Speaker 6: say they did it and did it. Will you find

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Speaker 6: a video that came out before Money and any thing

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Speaker 6: where you see rappers throwing money like this, right? And

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Speaker 6: that I never had a like, it wasn't about me

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Speaker 6: trying to challenge nobody. It got it got to be

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Speaker 6: that when reaching them crew came and it was like,

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Speaker 6: oh damn, they throwing more money, we gotta throw It

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Speaker 6: became like a money wall.

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Speaker 2: I was never I was never part of that.

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Speaker 1: I was thinking about you too, man, watching the documentary

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Speaker 1: because especially thinking about everything that's going on in Atlanta. Now,

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Speaker 1: did you purpose because you was outside, you was outside

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Speaker 1: connected with everybody. Did you purposely stay away from rappers

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Speaker 1: that were too in the street?

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Speaker 2: Nah, I just I'm not. I'm not a street guy

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Speaker 2: like that.

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Speaker 6: I mean what I mean, I'm like, I'm a real

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Speaker 6: hip hop person, right, a purist basically, right, And I

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Speaker 6: don't believe that you should be rapping about shit that

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Speaker 6: you don't actually do, like I've been that guy. Right,

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Speaker 6: if you ain't in the jury and you ain't do it,

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Speaker 6: don't talk about it.

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Speaker 2: If you ain't flying, you.

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Speaker 6: Don't be getting, then don't be making raps about it.

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Speaker 6: And I ain't never had no reason to talk about

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Speaker 2: Come up like that. What about signing an artist that

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Speaker 6: But you know what I mean, it wasn't like it

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Speaker 2: White Tea is about dope boys, like all of that.

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Speaker 6: All the music I just think it's it's also camouflaged

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Speaker 2: It's not this dark, I'm gonna kill you type of music.

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Speaker 1: Why are you able to break records in script clubs

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Speaker 6: Why is it Because in any lounge setting, music is

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Speaker 6: If he play a record and y'all over there talking

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Speaker 2: Who is that? Who is that?

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Speaker 6: That's like Cuavos, you know, you know you could see

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Speaker 2: This is actual real time.

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Speaker 3: At one time with women banned from the strip club,

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Speaker 6: It was one It was a period of time where

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Speaker 6: Figuring out, these guys are going to having fun, they eating,

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Speaker 6: And then once, like I said, even like me with Janet,

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Speaker 2: They ain't having a good time.

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Speaker 6: If you are able to just party and not pay

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Speaker 6: you know what I mean. They got other clubs where

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Speaker 2: Not see you with nothing. So that's not what happened.

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Speaker 1: The other thing about Magic City, or just watching the

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Speaker 2: No.

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Speaker 6: I was trying to figure out how we how we

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Speaker 6: this misconscrewed about me saying, because I'm not saying anything

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Speaker 6: about what's going on with Thug, but what's happening with

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Speaker 6: Doug is almost making people believe that.

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Speaker 2: That's just that's all of Atlanta. Right. Meanwhile, Atlanta has.

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Speaker 6: A subculture of these female rappers right now with Pluto,

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Speaker 6: But it's the first time that anybody else that's in

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Speaker 6: all of the artists that's out there, like we got Belly,

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Speaker 6: artists that's hot, even like Jed Jid got a hot

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Speaker 6: it's actually the media that all of the new artists

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Speaker 6: and all they're talking about all these little podcasts. Guys,

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Speaker 6: all they talking about this thug. If you want to

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Speaker 6: But don't say this is Atlanta Atlanta fell off. And

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Speaker 6: And you ain't mentioning Belly, and you ain't mentioning Jed

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Speaker 6: new album, and you ain't like because that's that now

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Speaker 6: you now you're deterring the energy that we out here

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Speaker 4: That's a great conversation.

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Speaker 1: You open it up because I'm sitting there thinking like

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Speaker 2: I meant, they gotta work harder.

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Speaker 6: But at the same time, it's like I said, it's

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Speaker 6: Like that's not that's not That's not where I live

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Speaker 1: I think I think that takes uh. That takes sometimes

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Speaker 2: That's what the artists used to do.

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Speaker 1: So I think sometimes it takes somebody like you to say, naw,

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Speaker 3: But now, it was the thing even with the franchise boys, right,

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Speaker 4: So somebody got to do that with a night and

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Speaker 3: But I get you say with Ji DJ like he

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Speaker 5: They know his face as much? Same thing with Pluto.

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Speaker 3: I love the fact that Pluto is out, she's outing

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Speaker 3: But we don't see that a lot anymore. And with

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Speaker 5: Fucks with each other. Everybody sees each other at the club,

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Speaker 3: Magic City, you see everybody together, whether they on good

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Speaker 2: But that's what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: If we put the I mean, you're right both sides,

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Speaker 2: They making records of each other, They making songs.

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Speaker 6: They putting out records every week, and it's one record

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Speaker 6: the next week and this person they put their showing

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Speaker 6: So when I put like Jay Money and Sean Paul

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Speaker 1: But people got to make the rounds that these niggas

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Speaker 2: Let's let's put that out there, nigga.

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Speaker 6: Everybody got to stop doing that ship in the music business.

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Speaker 6: Everybody got to stop doing that. I say that every

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Speaker 6: what what you think you're gonna get by not giving yes?

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Speaker 4: And once aday, I go back to the clips.

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Speaker 1: The clips O g Rap Group showed everybody what you

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Speaker 4: Project, go work all the rooms.

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Speaker 1: Like you can't just put your ship online and expect

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Speaker 1: people to come come to you.

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00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure they did. They did.

443
00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,080
Speaker 3: They were out on the street and performed in the

444
00:19:43,080 --> 00:19:44,800
Speaker 3: middle of Brooklyn at.

445
00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:44,920
Speaker 5: A block party.

446
00:19:45,040 --> 00:19:45,440
Speaker 4: To do that.

447
00:19:45,440 --> 00:19:48,240
Speaker 3: They went to the car show, they went to concerts,

448
00:19:48,280 --> 00:19:52,520
Speaker 3: they did radio, they did you podcast, they did everything.

449
00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:54,680
Speaker 5: They was to get those numbers, and it showed.

450
00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:55,119
Speaker 4: I saw it.

451
00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:57,359
Speaker 1: I saw these memes going around about the VMA's this

452
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:00,359
Speaker 1: past weekend this week and everybody was like, yo, this

453
00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:02,000
Speaker 1: is like this means saying, this is how I feel

454
00:20:02,040 --> 00:20:05,400
Speaker 1: watching the VMA's. You know less and less people every year,

455
00:20:05,880 --> 00:20:07,840
Speaker 1: and that's not because you getting older. It's because a

456
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:09,679
Speaker 1: lot of these people just ain't running the circuit.

457
00:20:09,920 --> 00:20:11,840
Speaker 4: Well, like everybody you just name. The only person I

458
00:20:11,880 --> 00:20:12,800
Speaker 4: know faces Pluto.

459
00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:18,840
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, but the VMA's I went, and I

460
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:20,879
Speaker 6: was gonna tweet while I was there, but I was like,

461
00:20:20,920 --> 00:20:22,800
Speaker 6: I'm not great because I might get in trouble.

462
00:20:22,840 --> 00:20:24,000
Speaker 2: I'm like turning something else.

463
00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:31,360
Speaker 6: But black culture is what is driving the internet when

464
00:20:31,400 --> 00:20:34,919
Speaker 6: it comes to music, right. It ain't enough black culture

465
00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:40,480
Speaker 6: at the VMA's for where the culture is from this

466
00:20:40,920 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 6: interviewing space, right, And I think that's a that's a

467
00:20:44,560 --> 00:20:48,800
Speaker 6: disconnect that you see at the VMA's and so so

468
00:20:48,960 --> 00:20:50,639
Speaker 6: a lot of the artists don't know if they should

469
00:20:50,680 --> 00:20:53,239
Speaker 6: go because they don't know, you know what I mean,

470
00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 6: because it's been front loaded with like people like Paris Hilton,

471
00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,879
Speaker 6: and I mean, you know, they put Lotto in an

472
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 6: what's the next I spice on there. But that's what

473
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,560
Speaker 6: I'm saying. It's still like it's not it's like, let's

474
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 6: forget about the under the down low.

475
00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:09,679
Speaker 2: People that's really coming up.

476
00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:12,679
Speaker 6: I thought Busters should have got what he got, but

477
00:21:13,200 --> 00:21:15,280
Speaker 6: we should have saw somebody new, you know what I mean.

478
00:21:15,400 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 2: Jid, Sierra, you know what I mean. They could have

479
00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:19,680
Speaker 2: easily performed though. I just don't think that.

480
00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,920
Speaker 6: I just don't think people are actually from the mainstream

481
00:21:23,119 --> 00:21:26,760
Speaker 6: perspective of paying attention to this ground swell of music

482
00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:27,440
Speaker 6: that's happening.

483
00:21:27,560 --> 00:21:29,399
Speaker 1: And then what do you do because I know for

484
00:21:29,480 --> 00:21:32,359
Speaker 1: a fact that first time I heard your album, I'm like, Yo,

485
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:32,880
Speaker 1: this skate.

486
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:34,320
Speaker 4: Record goals with Sierra and Earth Game.

487
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:38,480
Speaker 1: When when you're a JID and you're telling the label

488
00:21:38,520 --> 00:21:40,240
Speaker 1: this is the record, but the label saying, nah, let's

489
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:42,760
Speaker 1: go with something else. But then the label ain't servicing

490
00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:44,040
Speaker 1: nothing to radio.

491
00:21:44,520 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 6: Yeah yeah, I mean when you got to you know,

492
00:21:46,920 --> 00:21:49,920
Speaker 6: like like NB knows it, you saying you gotta bring

493
00:21:50,000 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 6: these labels to what's going on. That ain't never been

494
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:59,000
Speaker 6: a nun practice. Right when we had never scared. It

495
00:21:59,080 --> 00:22:02,400
Speaker 6: was Super Bowl weekend in Atlanta. I flew everybody to Atlanta,

496
00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 6: and my mindset was when everybody leave, everybody gonna leave

497
00:22:07,920 --> 00:22:11,200
Speaker 6: here saying Bone Crushes the biggest record they heard in Atlanta.

498
00:22:11,800 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 6: People left Atlanta and they were saying that bone Crushing

499
00:22:14,080 --> 00:22:16,240
Speaker 6: record is the big When everybody got back to New York,

500
00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 6: that was what was happening in their office. Can you

501
00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:20,280
Speaker 6: send me this bone crushing record? What's up with that

502
00:22:20,320 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 6: bone crush artist?

503
00:22:21,080 --> 00:22:21,800
Speaker 2: Blah blah blah.

504
00:22:21,920 --> 00:22:24,560
Speaker 6: You've always been that's always been part of the practice.

505
00:22:24,640 --> 00:22:27,440
Speaker 6: I don't know why people think that these things change.

506
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:29,960
Speaker 6: You have to None of these people know, you know

507
00:22:30,000 --> 00:22:34,080
Speaker 6: what I mean? Like nobody skates, right, nobody. These older

508
00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:37,280
Speaker 6: people that's in these labels, they're not skating. So how

509
00:22:37,320 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 6: do they know that it's a skating.

510
00:22:40,200 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 2: Thing going on in Atlanta? Three three days out of

511
00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,520
Speaker 2: the week. What night is popping?

512
00:22:44,840 --> 00:22:44,919
Speaker 1: What?

513
00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:47,760
Speaker 2: They're not even trying to go? They just thinking about music.

514
00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:52,000
Speaker 6: But we are actually selling culture inside our records and

515
00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:54,480
Speaker 6: we're actually doing what we talked. It was like selling

516
00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:57,640
Speaker 6: drugs if you talk about the drug wrappers. That's why

517
00:22:57,680 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 6: so many of them going to jail, because it's actually

518
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Speaker 6: real life.

519
00:23:00,560 --> 00:23:01,600
Speaker 4: What skating rink was it?

520
00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:02,960
Speaker 1: Cas skating is that is that would that be the

521
00:23:03,000 --> 00:23:06,080
Speaker 1: equivalent of Magic City for the skating rinks in Atlanta.

522
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,280
Speaker 6: On the west side, But it's a skating rink on

523
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:10,600
Speaker 6: every side. Like where I'm from, we had Sparkles and

524
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:14,120
Speaker 6: we had and we got skate Town. But I think,

525
00:23:14,200 --> 00:23:16,320
Speaker 6: like when we shot the video for Jed, is that

526
00:23:16,480 --> 00:23:18,399
Speaker 6: Golden Glide that's on the east side. So all of

527
00:23:18,760 --> 00:23:20,920
Speaker 6: like each side of Atlanta they got skating rings.

528
00:23:20,960 --> 00:23:21,720
Speaker 4: Did they break records?

529
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:28,119
Speaker 6: And yeah, I think I want to say that the

530
00:23:28,240 --> 00:23:32,520
Speaker 6: first time I ever heard the Jaquess hit that he

531
00:23:32,640 --> 00:23:35,240
Speaker 6: had was at the skateing ring and it was on

532
00:23:35,320 --> 00:23:36,920
Speaker 6: like a because they do you know. The crazy part

533
00:23:36,920 --> 00:23:39,040
Speaker 6: about it is like R and B records, they do

534
00:23:39,119 --> 00:23:42,360
Speaker 6: slow skate or they do couple skate, and they don't

535
00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,280
Speaker 6: play no ghetto music when they do that. They actually

536
00:23:45,320 --> 00:23:46,719
Speaker 6: play whatever the ballad is.

537
00:23:47,000 --> 00:23:47,160
Speaker 2: Right.

538
00:23:47,200 --> 00:23:49,720
Speaker 6: So I'm sure, like right now the Chris Brown record

539
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:51,879
Speaker 6: probably going crazyness came round. I haven't been in the

540
00:23:51,960 --> 00:23:54,640
Speaker 6: last you know, the last couple of months, but I'm

541
00:23:54,680 --> 00:23:56,520
Speaker 6: sure it goes crazy when they do the couple skate

542
00:23:56,920 --> 00:24:00,159
Speaker 6: and that definitely breaks music. You skate, No know what

543
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,879
Speaker 6: I'm saying I'm just saying these are time I hear records.

544
00:24:04,160 --> 00:24:04,440
Speaker 4: You didn't.

545
00:24:05,920 --> 00:24:07,760
Speaker 3: I want to ask you know, we had Coach k

546
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:10,800
Speaker 3: up here about a week ago. He was saying that

547
00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:12,480
Speaker 3: the industry is missing a and.

548
00:24:12,600 --> 00:24:14,400
Speaker 5: Rs right, and we talk about it a lot.

549
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,760
Speaker 3: Do you still think that we need somebody to develop

550
00:24:16,800 --> 00:24:19,160
Speaker 3: these artists, to help develop these artists, but.

551
00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:23,000
Speaker 6: The an rs need somebody to develop them, you know

552
00:24:23,040 --> 00:24:26,960
Speaker 6: what I mean? Like you know that's that's that's the truth.

553
00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:29,639
Speaker 6: Because the problem is is that the an ars is

554
00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,919
Speaker 6: acting more like babysitters down't They scared to tell the

555
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:36,080
Speaker 6: artists like that shit ain't that ain't hot? And because

556
00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:38,600
Speaker 6: they know if they tell them, the artists might smack

557
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 6: shit at them, or they might just the artists might

558
00:24:41,680 --> 00:24:43,840
Speaker 6: call a label and be like, y'all don't like him, right.

559
00:24:44,720 --> 00:24:46,640
Speaker 2: So people trying to be friends with people.

560
00:24:46,480 --> 00:24:49,320
Speaker 6: As opposed to like giving them creative criticism, and it's

561
00:24:49,359 --> 00:24:52,200
Speaker 6: not it's not helping the music, you know what I mean?

562
00:24:52,280 --> 00:24:54,679
Speaker 6: I I it's crazy as I was working with so

563
00:24:54,680 --> 00:24:57,080
Speaker 6: many artists during this album, and the artists coming to

564
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,840
Speaker 6: school and they're like, JD, don't don't just not produce me,

565
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:01,480
Speaker 6: let me make me.

566
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:03,600
Speaker 2: Sound the best. So it's artists out here that want

567
00:25:03,840 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 2: creative criticism.

568
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 6: I just think it's from the They gotta people gotta

569
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:10,120
Speaker 6: get back to like making sure that that's their job.

570
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,960
Speaker 6: And when you see a person, they understand that that's

571
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:14,080
Speaker 6: what they supposed to get from you.

572
00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 3: Every time, every time I see you and I talk

573
00:25:16,320 --> 00:25:18,119
Speaker 3: to you, I always ask you the same thing. I

574
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:22,119
Speaker 3: feel like you're one of those hip hop people that

575
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,800
Speaker 3: are underrated, right, that people forget about what you've done

576
00:25:25,040 --> 00:25:27,600
Speaker 3: and the lineage you put out there and the people.

577
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:29,760
Speaker 5: That you brought out. Do you always feel that way?

578
00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:30,520
Speaker 5: And when do we?

579
00:25:30,760 --> 00:25:33,200
Speaker 3: When does JD tell his own story in a movie

580
00:25:33,200 --> 00:25:36,440
Speaker 3: form where you talk about the beginning, the artists you popped,

581
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:39,760
Speaker 3: the A and r's you you birth, the producerve you birth,

582
00:25:39,840 --> 00:25:42,200
Speaker 3: the sound you brought out? When does that happen? Because

583
00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 3: people don't necessarily forget even to this day.

584
00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:45,320
Speaker 5: Sometimes I'm like, dam.

585
00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:48,440
Speaker 2: Jady did that one? So yeah, I mean, I don't know, man,

586
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:49,360
Speaker 2: you know I can't.

587
00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,560
Speaker 6: I was thinking about this on the way up here today.

588
00:25:51,600 --> 00:25:54,280
Speaker 6: I was like, I'm gonna see what Charlamagne I get today.

589
00:25:54,280 --> 00:25:54,840
Speaker 6: I'm gonna get the.

590
00:25:54,800 --> 00:25:56,679
Speaker 2: Cool Charlamagne I'm gonna get there, you know what I mean.

591
00:25:56,720 --> 00:25:59,080
Speaker 6: With Charlaman, I'm gonna get But last time I was here,

592
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 6: I told y'all, y'all, ain't gonna have nobody come up

593
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 6: here that would have a number one record in the

594
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,920
Speaker 6: same time that I did with the Money Long Record.

595
00:26:06,000 --> 00:26:10,480
Speaker 6: Right this time, I'm here and Billboard basically finally called me,

596
00:26:11,040 --> 00:26:13,359
Speaker 6: I mean named me the number one producer of the

597
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,640
Speaker 6: twenty first century of hip.

598
00:26:14,560 --> 00:26:18,199
Speaker 2: Hoppin' on beat. So I feel like the tide is changing,

599
00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:18,760
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

600
00:26:18,760 --> 00:26:20,919
Speaker 6: It's like I saw a bust To say something at

601
00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:24,200
Speaker 6: his speech the other day, like it's timing. Man, when

602
00:26:24,200 --> 00:26:26,760
Speaker 6: God wants you to get your flowers, he gonna give

603
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,080
Speaker 6: them to you, you don't rush it.

604
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 2: So I've just been sitting back waiting.

605
00:26:30,359 --> 00:26:33,280
Speaker 6: I feel like everything that you're saying, it's gonna eventually come.

606
00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:34,560
Speaker 6: Because at the end of the day, when you look

607
00:26:34,600 --> 00:26:37,200
Speaker 6: at that list based on who I started with, ain't

608
00:26:37,200 --> 00:26:39,240
Speaker 6: none of them niggas even on the list, you know

609
00:26:39,280 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like this a whole new list of

610
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:43,919
Speaker 6: people that I'm going against based on who the guys

611
00:26:43,920 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 6: I came out with.

612
00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: So as long as I just keep doing what I'm doing.

613
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:48,119
Speaker 2: I'm not.

614
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:51,200
Speaker 6: I mean, I think that is one of my most

615
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,399
Speaker 6: proud accomplishments though, to make that list, because I feel

616
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:57,720
Speaker 6: like for the first time people have to really like go.

617
00:26:57,560 --> 00:26:58,480
Speaker 2: And see why.

618
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:01,399
Speaker 6: And when you go see why, first of all, the

619
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:04,320
Speaker 6: list that is not comprived of your heart and your stomach.

620
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,600
Speaker 6: It's comprived of who has the most number ones in

621
00:27:06,640 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 6: the last twenty first century.

622
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 2: Them is facts, Like that's what I was telling the

623
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:12,360
Speaker 2: last time we was up here.

624
00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,680
Speaker 6: When you start dealing with the stats, you know, it's

625
00:27:15,680 --> 00:27:18,800
Speaker 6: a different conversation. And I feel like if people start

626
00:27:19,080 --> 00:27:22,159
Speaker 6: having to have that conversation, then you know, the respect

627
00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:23,560
Speaker 6: has to change at that point.

628
00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:26,440
Speaker 2: I mean, I've seen people like completely mad.

629
00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:29,960
Speaker 6: About Beyonce being at number five on that list, But Beyonce.

630
00:27:29,760 --> 00:27:31,440
Speaker 2: Actually produces these records.

631
00:27:31,440 --> 00:27:34,399
Speaker 6: She's telling the other people in the room, like just

632
00:27:34,400 --> 00:27:37,040
Speaker 6: what I want do a drop right here? Just you

633
00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:38,680
Speaker 6: know what I mean, that's production, So you know what

634
00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:42,560
Speaker 6: I mean. I mean, I've never been but I'm sure.

635
00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 2: I'm sure.

636
00:27:43,520 --> 00:27:45,560
Speaker 3: But even with the versus conversation. I remember the versus

637
00:27:45,600 --> 00:27:48,520
Speaker 3: conversation and they played you, so I don't want to

638
00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,199
Speaker 3: say he's so little. But they made it seem like

639
00:27:50,840 --> 00:27:52,760
Speaker 3: at the time, puff was gonna wax you, right, and

640
00:27:53,040 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 3: you start thinking about the amount of records you produced

641
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,399
Speaker 3: and the hits that you did, the records that you

642
00:27:57,440 --> 00:27:59,760
Speaker 3: writ that you wrote, that's why you were so like,

643
00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:01,640
Speaker 3: do this, let's let's do this. I mean, I'm sure

644
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:03,120
Speaker 3: it will never happen, but is that the reason why

645
00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:04,439
Speaker 3: you was like I wanted you wanted to do it

646
00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:05,920
Speaker 3: so bad it was gonna happen.

647
00:28:06,040 --> 00:28:06,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I do.

648
00:28:06,920 --> 00:28:08,199
Speaker 6: I mean, and I want to do it here in

649
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:09,719
Speaker 6: New York because I wanted, you know what I mean.

650
00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,040
Speaker 6: I feel like, I mean, I performed at the Tunnel,

651
00:28:12,080 --> 00:28:14,359
Speaker 6: I been in, I done, been in the ship storm

652
00:28:14,359 --> 00:28:14,920
Speaker 6: of hip hop.

653
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:16,679
Speaker 2: So it ain't none of that. Don't none of that

654
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:18,640
Speaker 2: scare me, right at the end of the day.

655
00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 6: And I feel like that's the only way at that

656
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,560
Speaker 6: time that people were gonna realize, like, oh, this nigga's crazy, right,

657
00:28:26,880 --> 00:28:28,760
Speaker 6: because if you I can't keep saying it, you know

658
00:28:28,800 --> 00:28:30,639
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, it is what it is is at

659
00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 6: this point if you ain't you know, I saw somebody say, oh,

660
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 6: yesterday when I said something about the female rappers like

661
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:39,520
Speaker 6: I'm saying right now, and somebody come in and say, oh,

662
00:28:39,600 --> 00:28:42,080
Speaker 6: now you want to say something good about female rappers,

663
00:28:42,280 --> 00:28:44,840
Speaker 6: I'm like, damn, did I not get you out of brack?

664
00:28:48,160 --> 00:28:50,840
Speaker 6: I have the ability to talk about female rappers more

665
00:28:50,880 --> 00:28:53,080
Speaker 6: than anybody because I'm the one that took the chance

666
00:28:53,120 --> 00:28:55,680
Speaker 6: to even try to see if it were right.

667
00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:58,160
Speaker 2: But people don't want to. They still want to fight it.

668
00:28:58,240 --> 00:29:00,960
Speaker 5: Like, so I'm like, whatever it is, what what's the motivation?

669
00:29:01,680 --> 00:29:03,520
Speaker 1: One of the only things I think about this list

670
00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:05,200
Speaker 1: when you look at this Billboard.

671
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 5: List, name the list. You can name the top five,

672
00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:07,400
Speaker 5: so people, but.

673
00:29:07,560 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: I'm only going to name top two, but you number one.

674
00:29:10,120 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 1: And then when he I guess you was that's your protege, Michael,

675
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:14,600
Speaker 1: it's my part?

676
00:29:14,800 --> 00:29:16,080
Speaker 2: Yeah? Yeah, how did that.

677
00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 4: Make you feel?

678
00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: I mean amazing?

679
00:29:17,800 --> 00:29:20,000
Speaker 6: Because you know, when you think about like what people

680
00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:22,640
Speaker 6: say about Mike, Michael Jordan and basketball, I always usually

681
00:29:23,440 --> 00:29:26,240
Speaker 6: they always talk about like, you can only be the

682
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 6: best on list if you can make other people better,

683
00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:29,440
Speaker 6: right than any business.

684
00:29:29,600 --> 00:29:31,200
Speaker 2: Right. I think that's the thing.

685
00:29:31,280 --> 00:29:34,400
Speaker 6: Like, so, I mean, half of them songs that put

686
00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 6: Brian in there is the same songs that got me

687
00:29:36,480 --> 00:29:36,800
Speaker 6: up there.

688
00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:38,880
Speaker 2: So it's like we make each other better.

689
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 6: So I mean, that's that's the focus that we have

690
00:29:42,560 --> 00:29:44,840
Speaker 6: when we work and the records that we do together

691
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 6: is just that's the focus. We have a goal amongst

692
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,680
Speaker 6: us both And if he was lower on that list,

693
00:29:50,720 --> 00:29:53,920
Speaker 6: I'll be mad because I'm like, it ain't no way possible,

694
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:54,760
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.

695
00:29:54,800 --> 00:29:57,040
Speaker 2: He's been right there with me every step of the way.

696
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:59,720
Speaker 1: And I think too, when I think about Mariah Carey getting,

697
00:30:00,160 --> 00:30:02,000
Speaker 1: you know, the accolade she got the other night at

698
00:30:02,040 --> 00:30:04,880
Speaker 1: the VMA, I don't know if that happens without you.

699
00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,680
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is Mariah had a

700
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:11,200
Speaker 1: fantastic career, but that album was like a comeback album

701
00:30:11,360 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: that kind of solidified her forever.

702
00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:19,239
Speaker 6: I was talking to her about this before yesterday, and

703
00:30:19,280 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 6: I was saying, like, it would have happened without me,

704
00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:27,320
Speaker 6: but Mariah, listen, Mariah is such a New York hip

705
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 6: hop person that she wants to gravitate towards the shit

706
00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:36,640
Speaker 6: right as opposed to like promoting the Boys the Men record,

707
00:30:36,720 --> 00:30:40,560
Speaker 6: which was no song her first song of the decade, right,

708
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,280
Speaker 6: she ain't even perform that song the other night, Like

709
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:45,120
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, like, she.

710
00:30:45,200 --> 00:30:47,600
Speaker 2: Got records that's bigger than the records I did. That.

711
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,040
Speaker 2: She just like, yeah, you know, we gonna red do

712
00:30:50,080 --> 00:30:51,440
Speaker 2: this tonight. This is what we're gonna do.

713
00:30:51,840 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 6: I listen. I love it because I'm a part of it.

714
00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 6: But don't get it twisted. These songs is you know

715
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,840
Speaker 6: what I mean? She got records that she could do.

716
00:30:58,920 --> 00:31:02,280
Speaker 6: That's like hero, you know what I mean? These songs

717
00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:06,520
Speaker 6: that's huge. That made her Mariah has sold thirty million

718
00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,920
Speaker 6: records before I even worked with her, you know what

719
00:31:08,960 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 6: I'm saying.

720
00:31:09,480 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: Like that charm Bracelet and then that was it was

721
00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:13,400
Speaker 1: that movie called I don't even remember that.

722
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 2: It was a bad It was dark. Yeah, but one

723
00:31:17,800 --> 00:31:19,880
Speaker 2: one black eye can't kill you.

724
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:20,520
Speaker 4: No, that's true.

725
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,280
Speaker 1: But then you came back to the mass vision of me,

726
00:31:22,440 --> 00:31:24,000
Speaker 1: and that's that's a nuclear bomb.

727
00:31:24,280 --> 00:31:25,280
Speaker 2: I mean that's not.

728
00:31:25,200 --> 00:31:26,200
Speaker 4: A normal album.

729
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:27,520
Speaker 2: Yeah.

730
00:31:27,760 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 6: I just I always look at that like, I'm really

731
00:31:30,200 --> 00:31:31,680
Speaker 6: I can't take credit for Mariah.

732
00:31:31,760 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 2: She's She's who she is.

733
00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:35,560
Speaker 6: And she was who she was before I you know,

734
00:31:36,000 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 6: I'm just happy that she let me be a part

735
00:31:37,800 --> 00:31:38,320
Speaker 6: of the ride.

736
00:31:38,400 --> 00:31:40,640
Speaker 1: I think that puts more pressure on you, though, And

737
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 1: what I mean by that is when you're tasked with

738
00:31:42,800 --> 00:31:46,080
Speaker 1: going in there with the iconic person already and creating

739
00:31:46,160 --> 00:31:49,640
Speaker 1: something that gets them, you know, back scene the way

740
00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:51,880
Speaker 1: that they were seeing before that, you know, last flop,

741
00:31:51,960 --> 00:31:54,160
Speaker 1: that says a lot that you was able to accomplish that.

742
00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:56,600
Speaker 6: Then to put pressure on me, I would think so

743
00:31:56,760 --> 00:31:58,920
Speaker 6: back then, nah, because I don't think about it like

744
00:31:59,000 --> 00:32:00,600
Speaker 6: you know, Like the thing about is when I go

745
00:32:00,600 --> 00:32:02,120
Speaker 6: in to studio people, I don't be like, I don't

746
00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 6: get caught up on what's happening in their life. And

747
00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 6: I think that that was what was going on in

748
00:32:06,360 --> 00:32:08,840
Speaker 6: her life outside of the studio. I go in the

749
00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 6: studio and I'm like, I say this all the time

750
00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:13,880
Speaker 6: when I when I work with Aretha Franklin, she made

751
00:32:13,920 --> 00:32:16,920
Speaker 6: me realize, like, listen, if you're gonna be in here

752
00:32:17,040 --> 00:32:17,920
Speaker 6: working and I'm.

753
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 2: Gonna pay you and we're gonna let you get this credit.

754
00:32:21,040 --> 00:32:23,680
Speaker 6: You better say what the fuck you gotta say If

755
00:32:23,720 --> 00:32:26,520
Speaker 6: I sound bad, if I don't even sound halfway good,

756
00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:28,920
Speaker 6: she was like, tell me to do it again. And

757
00:32:28,960 --> 00:32:31,640
Speaker 6: I'm like, I can't tell Aretha Franklin, nothing like this

758
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 6: will Rita Franklin. But the way she was talking to

759
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:36,680
Speaker 6: me was like I flew you here to Detroit to

760
00:32:36,680 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 6: cut my vocals. So what you're gonna do, You're gonna

761
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 6: sit in the here and there and watch me? Or

762
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 6: if that's I'm going home. That's what she told me.

763
00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 6: She says, literally, I'm going home, that's what you're gonna do.

764
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:48,400
Speaker 6: And that's when I set that for me and I'm like,

765
00:32:48,440 --> 00:32:51,080
Speaker 6: you know what, I gotta do this. I just gotta

766
00:32:51,160 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 6: be brutally honest with artists. And when it came to

767
00:32:53,880 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 6: mancipation to me me we belong together. We made the

768
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,600
Speaker 6: song like listen, Marian, if you don't hit the note

769
00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,000
Speaker 6: that this song at the end of the record, the

770
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,880
Speaker 6: record ain't gonna be what people want the record to be.

771
00:33:03,920 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 6: They want you to that's that's what they want. We

772
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 6: gotta give them what they want. And it was like

773
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:11,760
Speaker 6: nobody else wanted to say this. I had to say it,

774
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,040
Speaker 6: and I have to be like, you know, if you

775
00:33:14,040 --> 00:33:17,320
Speaker 6: don't like me for saying what is real? Then while

776
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:18,880
Speaker 6: we in the room together, what was one.

777
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:20,520
Speaker 3: Of the artists that didn't like you being brutal Lyannes?

778
00:33:20,640 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: I was like, nah, it's not for me.

779
00:33:23,280 --> 00:33:24,640
Speaker 2: Nobody. I don't think nobody.

780
00:33:24,840 --> 00:33:27,160
Speaker 6: I mean I think everybody want they don't want to

781
00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:31,680
Speaker 6: address it, but when it's right, they're like, oh, okay,

782
00:33:31,800 --> 00:33:33,800
Speaker 6: you know, but a lot of.

783
00:33:33,800 --> 00:33:35,560
Speaker 2: Them like, you know, bout I didn't like. Oh, I

784
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 2: think they like me.

785
00:33:38,640 --> 00:33:40,440
Speaker 5: Usher didn't seem like you wrestle with him every time.

786
00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:41,800
Speaker 5: You're understand that's what balance.

787
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 2: But I'm saying Usher didn't like you make me want

788
00:33:43,960 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 2: to And you have to sit there and be like, man,

789
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,480
Speaker 2: why what do you what are you listening to that

790
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:51,960
Speaker 2: make you not like this song?

791
00:33:52,440 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 3: So what did you say that Mariah Carrey when she

792
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,640
Speaker 3: didn't do that the last note at the end, right,

793
00:33:55,640 --> 00:33:57,840
Speaker 3: the note that everybody tries to sing, did you call

794
00:33:57,840 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 3: her back like, hey, I need you to do the Like.

795
00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,720
Speaker 6: What's crazy is we had six hours to do we

796
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:04,480
Speaker 6: belonging together.

797
00:34:04,560 --> 00:34:07,720
Speaker 2: She came to Atlanta, We did everything in the song

798
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:08,960
Speaker 2: except for that note.

799
00:34:09,080 --> 00:34:12,400
Speaker 6: Right, the song was finished, and I kept saying, Mariah,

800
00:34:13,160 --> 00:34:15,560
Speaker 6: when you do the you know, because she also was

801
00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 6: gonna sing her vocals when she came back, and I

802
00:34:17,600 --> 00:34:21,239
Speaker 6: just kept saying, when you sing the vocals, make sure

803
00:34:21,239 --> 00:34:21,839
Speaker 6: you end the.

804
00:34:21,840 --> 00:34:23,120
Speaker 2: Song with this note.

805
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:25,840
Speaker 6: And it wasn't there, It wasn't in there, and it

806
00:34:25,920 --> 00:34:28,680
Speaker 6: was just like you had to say it or not.

807
00:34:28,840 --> 00:34:30,399
Speaker 6: I had to feel like I felt like I had

808
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,480
Speaker 6: to keep saying it before she left me because I

809
00:34:32,520 --> 00:34:35,840
Speaker 6: wasn't gonna be there with her. And sometimes you know,

810
00:34:36,600 --> 00:34:39,120
Speaker 6: artists want to be cool and like Mariah is like

811
00:34:39,160 --> 00:34:41,400
Speaker 6: a singer that don't that can.

812
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 2: Really sing, but she's a rapper.

813
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:46,799
Speaker 6: She want to be like she want to do rapper shit,

814
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,239
Speaker 6: so she don't actually be wanting to like show you

815
00:34:49,280 --> 00:34:53,040
Speaker 6: how well she can sing no more. And I'm like, no,

816
00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:56,840
Speaker 6: show these niggas you could really fucking sing. They can't,

817
00:34:57,200 --> 00:34:59,319
Speaker 6: by the way, So you have to do that. You

818
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 6: have to tell her because she'll get she's a rapper.

819
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:03,239
Speaker 6: I told this, I told her this other.

820
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,799
Speaker 5: How many times? You know how many times did she

821
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:06,799
Speaker 5: have to do that? Last note her?

822
00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:08,560
Speaker 2: I don't think she had to do that.

823
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,000
Speaker 6: I mean, it don't take her long when she's when

824
00:35:11,000 --> 00:35:13,680
Speaker 6: she's in that mold, but just last Yeah, they don't

825
00:35:13,719 --> 00:35:14,239
Speaker 6: take one time.

826
00:35:14,440 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 2: It don't take them.

827
00:35:15,280 --> 00:35:18,600
Speaker 6: Mariah's she's she's flawless when she want to be. But

828
00:35:18,719 --> 00:35:22,920
Speaker 6: like I said, she's so New York. I'm telling you,

829
00:35:23,080 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 6: like the first time I went to work when Mariah I.

830
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,760
Speaker 2: Came here I ain't know what to expect.

831
00:35:27,840 --> 00:35:30,319
Speaker 6: She walked in the studio and she laid the CD

832
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 6: on the desk and it was the Wu Tang Cream

833
00:35:32,680 --> 00:35:34,359
Speaker 6: and she was like, I want you to sample this.

834
00:35:34,360 --> 00:35:39,319
Speaker 2: This is what I'm singing over. And I'm like, nah,

835
00:35:39,360 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it.

836
00:35:40,200 --> 00:35:43,680
Speaker 6: I'm not because I start thinking about like you already

837
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 6: successful and you think I'm getting ready to be the

838
00:35:45,480 --> 00:35:47,640
Speaker 6: nigga that's gonna put cream under you and make you

839
00:35:48,080 --> 00:35:48,839
Speaker 6: We're not doing that.

840
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,000
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that right. But I quickly learned who

841
00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,040
Speaker 2: she was, Like she just told us that story, like

842
00:35:56,080 --> 00:35:57,200
Speaker 2: she's that's who she is.

843
00:35:57,480 --> 00:35:59,480
Speaker 4: No, somebody told that story about Mariah wanted to sing

844
00:35:59,520 --> 00:35:59,960
Speaker 4: over cream?

845
00:36:00,040 --> 00:36:00,400
Speaker 2: Who was it?

846
00:36:01,239 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 4: Mike literally just.

847
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:05,600
Speaker 6: Told us that's that's that's the thing. Like right now,

848
00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:08,400
Speaker 6: she put out a song where she's over for president,

849
00:36:08,800 --> 00:36:10,959
Speaker 6: She's New York to the call.

850
00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:14,200
Speaker 1: What was it about the emancipation of me me that

851
00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: got her back to where she needed to be? Was

852
00:36:17,360 --> 00:36:20,280
Speaker 1: it the freedom that maybe you provided because I started

853
00:36:20,280 --> 00:36:23,560
Speaker 1: brat telling this story about how Tommy Matola got guns

854
00:36:23,560 --> 00:36:25,800
Speaker 1: pulled on you because you let.

855
00:36:25,600 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 4: Mariah go to burden.

856
00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:27,880
Speaker 2: I didn't let them do nothing.

857
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,520
Speaker 6: They pulled off and went on their own. But yeah,

858
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 6: we'll tell the story. I don't know the story, Okay.

859
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,600
Speaker 6: So the first time I started working with Mariah, I

860
00:36:35,680 --> 00:36:38,200
Speaker 6: decided to do it. Always be my baby remix, right,

861
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:41,960
Speaker 6: So I brought Escape and the Brat to her house

862
00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:45,200
Speaker 6: that was out in upstate with her and Tommy. And

863
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,759
Speaker 6: this was the first time me I started bringing my

864
00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:52,440
Speaker 6: people around Mariah and I brought Brat.

865
00:36:52,520 --> 00:36:55,240
Speaker 2: Her and Brat kicked it. They hit it off, and.

866
00:36:57,040 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 6: She convinced Brat or either Bratt convinced her let's take

867
00:37:01,120 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 6: a trip in the car, just me and you and

868
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:04,000
Speaker 6: go to McDonald's or some more.

869
00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: Ship left the ground without me knowing, and.

870
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:12,120
Speaker 6: Niggas showed up in the studio like what's going on.

871
00:37:12,280 --> 00:37:16,680
Speaker 6: I'm like, I seen motherfuckers running around like and it

872
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:19,400
Speaker 6: always looking at me like JD, this is your person.

873
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:21,719
Speaker 6: She done ran off with Mariah and I'm like, what

874
00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 6: the fuck? Like that was a crazy moment. This is

875
00:37:24,960 --> 00:37:27,239
Speaker 6: my first time being there, this is my first time

876
00:37:27,239 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 6: at her house, and I bring some niggas over.

877
00:37:30,920 --> 00:37:33,000
Speaker 2: This was just like a story. You bring some niggas

878
00:37:33,040 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: over to the house and this is what happened, And

879
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:37,040
Speaker 2: I'm in the house like this, like, I'm just trying

880
00:37:37,040 --> 00:37:38,719
Speaker 2: to make a record. Man, what the fuck is going

881
00:37:38,760 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 2: on where you're at? Yeah? I called her. She's like,

882
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:44,160
Speaker 2: we just getting some fries and I'm like what, why? Why?

883
00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:46,960
Speaker 2: And she was saying that MARIAJH.

884
00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 6: Just like at that period of time, Mariah was, you know,

885
00:37:49,600 --> 00:37:52,600
Speaker 6: this was a different type of success life at this

886
00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:56,240
Speaker 6: point celebrity. She wasn't the artist that could go outside

887
00:37:56,239 --> 00:37:58,360
Speaker 6: and go to McDonald's or she wasn't even doing that.

888
00:37:58,960 --> 00:38:01,040
Speaker 6: Like she was sheltered and house and she she just

889
00:38:01,080 --> 00:38:03,960
Speaker 6: wanted to get out and Brat was her her person

890
00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,520
Speaker 6: that was ready to go escape and do it.

891
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:08,480
Speaker 1: So was it that level of freedom you provided her?

892
00:38:08,760 --> 00:38:10,960
Speaker 1: That's what I'm called the emancipatient.

893
00:38:11,080 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 6: Yeah, A me, nah, Just I just think I think

894
00:38:13,600 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 6: I make Mariah comfortable, right and I don't.

895
00:38:16,600 --> 00:38:16,919
Speaker 2: I don't.

896
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 6: I don't fake with her about the music that we

897
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:23,959
Speaker 6: should make. And I think that's what makes her feel free,

898
00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,680
Speaker 6: you know, free because I'm telling her, I'm telling anybody,

899
00:38:27,719 --> 00:38:31,520
Speaker 6: if you sing, make singing records man like, and like,

900
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,040
Speaker 6: I get it, you want to rap And I'm a

901
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:38,640
Speaker 6: rapper at heart, but I learned how to make music.

902
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,960
Speaker 6: And I learned through the success that I've had that

903
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 6: these people want these records to sound like the records

904
00:38:45,080 --> 00:38:48,360
Speaker 6: that they know. The audience don't change, right, So I

905
00:38:48,480 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 6: just have to keep beating that in people's minds and

906
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 6: letting them know, like, listen, you might want to change

907
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:55,839
Speaker 6: your shit up, but the person that's listening, they want

908
00:38:55,880 --> 00:38:58,759
Speaker 6: the new Mariah record to sound like the Mariah record

909
00:38:58,840 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 6: that they heard before.

910
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,200
Speaker 2: And that's always a hard fight with artists.

911
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 4: Did you ever take the Magic City?

912
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,360
Speaker 2: Yeah? No, no, no, no, she won't. She won't. She

913
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:09,600
Speaker 2: probably won't go to that. That ain't her That ain't

914
00:39:09,600 --> 00:39:09,960
Speaker 2: her bag.

915
00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,560
Speaker 5: Now back to Usher, you said she didn't like make

916
00:39:12,640 --> 00:39:14,799
Speaker 5: me want to? Yeah, why not? What was the problem

917
00:39:14,800 --> 00:39:15,000
Speaker 5: with that?

918
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:15,400
Speaker 2: I don't know?

919
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:16,640
Speaker 5: And how did you get him? How did you force

920
00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:17,600
Speaker 5: him to finally do it?

921
00:39:17,600 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 6: Well, I mean I have to force him, but he

922
00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:22,560
Speaker 6: also he just let me know it wasn't like, that

923
00:39:22,719 --> 00:39:25,799
Speaker 6: wasn't what he felt he should be coming with. At

924
00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 6: this point in time, Usher was still not sure where

925
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,200
Speaker 6: his career was gonna go. So he's still cut the song, luckily,

926
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:34,239
Speaker 6: but if we was in that space right now, he's

927
00:39:34,280 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 6: not gonna cut the song right now.

928
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:38,280
Speaker 2: He ain't gonna be like, I don't fuck.

929
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:39,800
Speaker 5: With that song right now. He don't care if he

930
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 5: don't like it.

931
00:39:40,880 --> 00:39:42,319
Speaker 2: It's not even gonna get cut even now.

932
00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:45,399
Speaker 6: Right now, I would trust you to not he's gonna

933
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:48,160
Speaker 6: be like, that's right now. I'd be like, yo, Usher,

934
00:39:48,200 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 6: please cut this song.

935
00:39:50,400 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 2: Us should turn his phone off.

936
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,760
Speaker 1: Like, when you look at this new generation of Atlanta rappers,

937
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: do you feel they understand the history of the city sound.

938
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 2: It's all about what's hot? Right? Well? I think they do,

939
00:40:01,600 --> 00:40:03,759
Speaker 2: but I don't think they respected.

940
00:40:05,080 --> 00:40:09,120
Speaker 6: From a level of why how high you should be

941
00:40:09,160 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 6: holding it right because a lot of people in Atlanta

942
00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:17,479
Speaker 6: still don't understand the how we even got to where

943
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 6: we are, right. I did an interview the other day

944
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,680
Speaker 6: like about no First of the Month or something like

945
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:28,400
Speaker 6: that with big facts right and Bank was saying, you know,

946
00:40:28,520 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 6: JD niggas in Atlanta used to think you wanted to

947
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:37,279
Speaker 6: be from New York. And it's funny because it wasn't

948
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:39,200
Speaker 6: that I wanted to be from New York. It's just

949
00:40:39,239 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 6: this is where hip hop lives, and this is where

950
00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:44,640
Speaker 6: hip hop was at and it wasn't hip hop nor

951
00:40:44,680 --> 00:40:47,200
Speaker 6: no hip hop in Atlanta, right. It wasn't no place

952
00:40:47,280 --> 00:40:51,480
Speaker 6: in Atlanta that even gave me what I felt was

953
00:40:51,560 --> 00:40:53,279
Speaker 6: I was getting when I came to the city and

954
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 6: I wasn't getting anything.

955
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,120
Speaker 2: I was treated like I wasn't even supposed to be here.

956
00:40:57,440 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 6: But still I was looking at people doing what I

957
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:03,560
Speaker 6: wanted to do, right, So I'm like, Yo, we gotta

958
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 6: get We got to figure out how to get this going.

959
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:09,359
Speaker 6: So he was telling me that when I did Money

960
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 6: and a Thing, that it felt like I wanted to

961
00:41:12,160 --> 00:41:14,320
Speaker 6: be from New York as opposed I also, I wanted

962
00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,759
Speaker 6: to be the first nigga from Atlanta to make a

963
00:41:16,800 --> 00:41:19,560
Speaker 6: record with a nigga from Brooklyn that everybody kept claiming

964
00:41:19,680 --> 00:41:22,440
Speaker 6: was gonna be who he came who he became to be.

965
00:41:22,840 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 2: And I don't think people.

966
00:41:25,800 --> 00:41:29,520
Speaker 6: Understand that move as much as they want to try

967
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:30,919
Speaker 6: to make it seem like I want to be from

968
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:33,680
Speaker 6: New York. I was trying to be the first person

969
00:41:34,200 --> 00:41:38,680
Speaker 6: to push us forward and make sure that Atlanta exists

970
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 6: the way it does in hip hop.

971
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,759
Speaker 5: Did you have to pay hold for that record? How

972
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:43,319
Speaker 5: did that record come about? Money? In a day?

973
00:41:43,960 --> 00:41:44,279
Speaker 2: I had to?

974
00:41:44,600 --> 00:41:46,879
Speaker 6: I mean, it was my idea from the Jump and

975
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:50,120
Speaker 6: he took it and put it on his album once

976
00:41:50,160 --> 00:41:50,880
Speaker 6: it started popping.

977
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 2: So you know, we just we're just an even swap.

978
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:56,000
Speaker 1: So who when you when you talk, I loved I

979
00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:58,080
Speaker 1: loved these Atlanta stories and I really feel like Atlanta

980
00:41:58,120 --> 00:41:59,799
Speaker 1: story still hasn't been told.

981
00:42:00,120 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 5: It should have.

982
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 1: That's why I'm glad you did the Freak Nick Dog

983
00:42:01,960 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: and y'all got the Magic City Doc. When you think

984
00:42:03,920 --> 00:42:07,320
Speaker 1: of Atlanta, who should really get the credit for introducing

985
00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 1: the world to Atlanta hip hop?

986
00:42:09,120 --> 00:42:09,160
Speaker 6: Me?

987
00:42:11,239 --> 00:42:11,680
Speaker 2: Outcast?

988
00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:15,240
Speaker 6: Outcast was calling so so death trying to get signed,

989
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 6: Like I think, I think, you know, one of the

990
00:42:18,120 --> 00:42:21,440
Speaker 6: things that that we have to really start doing is

991
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:24,400
Speaker 6: in dealing with me. And that's where it goes, like

992
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 6: people start moving the goal posters that Chris Cross was

993
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:31,399
Speaker 6: the first rap crew from Atlanta to sell over to

994
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:34,320
Speaker 6: three four million records, point blank, ain't no if and

995
00:42:34,520 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 6: buts about it, right. But when we start having a

996
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 6: conversation about Chris Cross, people start trying to make it

997
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:41,719
Speaker 6: seem like it's kitty rap.

998
00:42:42,040 --> 00:42:42,279
Speaker 2: Right.

999
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 6: But then when I started saying something about me making

1000
00:42:46,080 --> 00:42:48,880
Speaker 6: a record, the niggas starts saying, jade o g it's.

1001
00:42:48,760 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 2: A young man game. If it's a young man game.

1002
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 6: Then give it to the young man who started the

1003
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:58,000
Speaker 6: ship for the city, right. But when you ask for

1004
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:03,239
Speaker 6: that credit, niggas try to make it seem like nah nah, nah.

1005
00:43:02,680 --> 00:43:04,200
Speaker 2: Nah, it can't be these kids.

1006
00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:07,359
Speaker 6: But that don't make sense, right it don't you one

1007
00:43:07,400 --> 00:43:10,240
Speaker 6: minute it's for the kids, then the next minute the kids.

1008
00:43:10,280 --> 00:43:11,760
Speaker 2: You don't want to get the kids to credit.

1009
00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:14,320
Speaker 6: And I think that's the biggest mistake in Atlanta h

1010
00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 6: hip hop is that niggas don't give Crisscross the credit

1011
00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:23,440
Speaker 6: for pushing the door open. Like t I definitely says

1012
00:43:23,840 --> 00:43:26,799
Speaker 6: that he started rapping because he saw Criscross and he

1013
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:30,759
Speaker 6: realized that he didn't have to be old. He didn't

1014
00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:32,800
Speaker 6: have to be twenty five years old to make a record.

1015
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:35,360
Speaker 6: He saw some little niggas from his hood making music

1016
00:43:35,400 --> 00:43:35,839
Speaker 6: and he was.

1017
00:43:35,800 --> 00:43:38,759
Speaker 2: Like, I can do it. Right. Even Killer Mike says

1018
00:43:38,800 --> 00:43:39,319
Speaker 2: the same thing.

1019
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,040
Speaker 6: And I feel like, you know, you got a couple

1020
00:43:41,040 --> 00:43:42,920
Speaker 6: of people that like these guys that say it, But

1021
00:43:43,280 --> 00:43:45,280
Speaker 6: the rest of the city, if you start having conversation

1022
00:43:45,360 --> 00:43:48,640
Speaker 6: about it, it's always who who started at first. Criscross

1023
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:51,239
Speaker 6: came out way before outcasts, you know what I'm saying,

1024
00:43:51,280 --> 00:43:54,200
Speaker 6: and they sold eight million records the first album.

1025
00:43:54,440 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: You can't just not talk about that.

1026
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:58,560
Speaker 1: What's the biggest differ between being a music mogul in

1027
00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:00,680
Speaker 1: the nineties versus in one now.

1028
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:02,280
Speaker 4: They don't look the same.

1029
00:44:02,520 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 6: Yeah, they don't look the same. And I think that

1030
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:13,440
Speaker 6: the difference now is that it just ain't a bunch,

1031
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:15,480
Speaker 6: That's what it is. That's the ultimate difference. Because we

1032
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:18,360
Speaker 6: all learned from everybody. I learned most of everything that

1033
00:44:18,360 --> 00:44:20,480
Speaker 6: I started doing from Russell, you know what I mean,

1034
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:22,320
Speaker 6: just seeing Russell Simmons do what he was doing.

1035
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:26,920
Speaker 2: Andre Horrel rest in peace, just everybody.

1036
00:44:27,040 --> 00:44:31,400
Speaker 6: You know, we had, We had books of people that

1037
00:44:31,480 --> 00:44:35,400
Speaker 6: we could look at and read their book and be like, Okay,

1038
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:36,880
Speaker 6: if I'm gonna do it, I want to do it

1039
00:44:36,920 --> 00:44:38,959
Speaker 6: like this. If I'm gonna have this company, I'm gonna

1040
00:44:38,960 --> 00:44:41,040
Speaker 6: have it like this. We don't have that no more. Right,

1041
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:43,560
Speaker 6: we don't have that no more. And I need it,

1042
00:44:43,640 --> 00:44:45,040
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Even me, I need it.

1043
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 6: So it's therefore it's like I mean, at least I

1044
00:44:47,680 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 6: always used it. I might be that person that people

1045
00:44:49,760 --> 00:44:52,360
Speaker 6: look at this point, but I'm saying, for the most part,

1046
00:44:52,600 --> 00:44:55,600
Speaker 6: we don't have these guys that's out here that you

1047
00:44:55,640 --> 00:44:57,319
Speaker 6: could actually look at and be like, Okay, I want

1048
00:44:57,320 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 6: to have I want to even like Jay Prince, Ay

1049
00:45:00,200 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 6: Prince was doing what he was doing in Houston.

1050
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:04,520
Speaker 2: They not doing that no more in Houston, right, So

1051
00:45:04,560 --> 00:45:05,440
Speaker 2: the niggas ain't Houston.

1052
00:45:05,480 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 6: Only nobody like patting what they're doing off and nobody

1053
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:11,160
Speaker 6: they can talk about it, but you don't see nobody

1054
00:45:11,239 --> 00:45:11,960
Speaker 6: coming out of Houston.

1055
00:45:12,000 --> 00:45:14,440
Speaker 2: It's like the new j Prince. That's true, you know.

1056
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 1: I mean it's interesting too it Atlanta because you always

1057
00:45:17,040 --> 00:45:18,960
Speaker 1: repeat yourself when you think about all the different sounds

1058
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: that have come out of Atlanta now. But I love

1059
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:24,000
Speaker 1: Metro booming out and stuff you got on the on

1060
00:45:24,040 --> 00:45:26,160
Speaker 1: the Magic City soundtracks sound like that too. Why is

1061
00:45:26,239 --> 00:45:28,439
Speaker 1: that era it seemed like coming back?

1062
00:45:29,600 --> 00:45:33,239
Speaker 6: Well, I mean mine is because it's connected to the dock, right.

1063
00:45:33,560 --> 00:45:35,640
Speaker 6: I think Metro them was on the something that was

1064
00:45:35,719 --> 00:45:38,839
Speaker 6: just like they felt like, like I said, I don't

1065
00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:43,279
Speaker 6: know where these girls, what mindset these female rappers was

1066
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:46,399
Speaker 6: in when they started, but they started taking these old

1067
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 6: records and remaking new records on top of them. So

1068
00:45:49,719 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 6: like all these atoven beats, that's the Pluto song when

1069
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 6: Wami was a zatoven beat right.

1070
00:45:57,040 --> 00:45:58,759
Speaker 2: Like I said, the girl bank Roll Now that I

1071
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,880
Speaker 2: worked with, she got a bunch.

1072
00:45:59,760 --> 00:46:02,239
Speaker 6: Of these records that they they're taking all of these

1073
00:46:02,239 --> 00:46:04,480
Speaker 6: older records and they putting new records on this. So

1074
00:46:04,520 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 6: I think the feel of it when they when you

1075
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:11,320
Speaker 6: start seeing that, that feels like okay. You know, everybody

1076
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:14,600
Speaker 6: that make music always try to get into the tempo

1077
00:46:15,120 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 6: and what's gonna go with the next song.

1078
00:46:16,880 --> 00:46:18,879
Speaker 2: As a producer, I mean, that's what I do.

1079
00:46:19,160 --> 00:46:21,960
Speaker 6: So if you're listening to oh I think they like

1080
00:46:22,040 --> 00:46:25,080
Speaker 6: me beat, and somebody come on with a new song

1081
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:28,080
Speaker 6: that your your next move is to damn.

1082
00:46:27,800 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 2: To make a record that sound like leaning with it.

1083
00:46:29,920 --> 00:46:32,919
Speaker 6: Rock with is just automatic because you can't just come

1084
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,400
Speaker 6: with a song that you can't just blow by and

1085
00:46:35,400 --> 00:46:37,040
Speaker 6: be like, I ain't paying attention to that tempo.

1086
00:46:37,560 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 2: Let's do something else.

1087
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:40,960
Speaker 6: No, that ain't. That ain't never been hip hop. So

1088
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:42,440
Speaker 6: I just think that it's.

1089
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:42,640
Speaker 2: Just a wave.

1090
00:46:42,719 --> 00:46:44,719
Speaker 6: Like I said, these girls they started and I just

1091
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,960
Speaker 6: feel like you're seeing people just follow the wave.

1092
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,520
Speaker 1: It's gonna be address that take me through their record. Yeah,

1093
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:52,800
Speaker 1: with that with that influences, Yeah.

1094
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:55,319
Speaker 6: But I'm saying that's why k THO. Yeah, So I

1095
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:57,440
Speaker 6: mean that's that's what I'm saying. It's like it's it's

1096
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,440
Speaker 6: just it's just they wave and people just they started it.

1097
00:47:01,680 --> 00:47:01,960
Speaker 2: You know.

1098
00:47:02,080 --> 00:47:04,400
Speaker 3: Now we talked about a lot of stuff that you've

1099
00:47:04,480 --> 00:47:06,799
Speaker 3: done in your history. What's left that you mayne wants

1100
00:47:06,880 --> 00:47:08,480
Speaker 3: to do that he hasn't done yet, Like because you

1101
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 3: didn't did everything, you didn't did docu series, you didn't

1102
00:47:11,040 --> 00:47:13,839
Speaker 3: did produce for every decade, what's left that you want

1103
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,160
Speaker 3: to do that's like this is the last thing I

1104
00:47:15,200 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 3: want to do, or this is something I want to do.

1105
00:47:18,480 --> 00:47:19,520
Speaker 2: Just continue, man.

1106
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,799
Speaker 6: I think that, Like it's a lot of stuff that

1107
00:47:21,840 --> 00:47:24,439
Speaker 6: I did that I didn't know what I was doing right,

1108
00:47:24,560 --> 00:47:26,399
Speaker 6: and so it was like go back and do it

1109
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 6: in a way now that I know. Like when I

1110
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,960
Speaker 6: came up here and talked about the Rap Game, I

1111
00:47:31,000 --> 00:47:32,440
Speaker 6: ain't know what that show was going to be.

1112
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:34,200
Speaker 2: I ain't know a lot of it was gonna come

1113
00:47:34,239 --> 00:47:35,279
Speaker 2: from that show. I ain't know.

1114
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:38,120
Speaker 6: I don't know what was going to happen. Right now,

1115
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:41,920
Speaker 6: I know now people know that show would be accepted,

1116
00:47:42,360 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 6: you know, and received so much better now.

1117
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,880
Speaker 3: Because people it wasn't accepted back then, like like I

1118
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:47,640
Speaker 3: think it would be now.

1119
00:47:47,760 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

1120
00:47:48,600 --> 00:47:49,359
Speaker 5: It's proven though.

1121
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,680
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's just really just like like I said, a

1122
00:47:51,680 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 6: lot of the stuff is like I'm the first to

1123
00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 6: like step out here and see what's going on, and

1124
00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 6: you don't even know what's happening. And once it worked,

1125
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:01,719
Speaker 6: if you come back and do it again, it's like, oh, Okay,

1126
00:48:02,040 --> 00:48:04,000
Speaker 6: now people fucking with this, and they might do it.

1127
00:48:04,040 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 2: But that's a lot of the stuff.

1128
00:48:05,400 --> 00:48:06,960
Speaker 6: I just you know, I was just like, you know,

1129
00:48:07,320 --> 00:48:10,080
Speaker 6: like even like the Division I signed Division, and the

1130
00:48:10,120 --> 00:48:13,520
Speaker 6: first album that I did with Division, I jumped out

1131
00:48:13,560 --> 00:48:15,279
Speaker 6: here with a song called if I Get Caught, and

1132
00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:19,080
Speaker 6: you know, their fan base was a little like that,

1133
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:19,480
Speaker 6: Ain't we.

1134
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:20,359
Speaker 2: Donna fuck with that? Right?

1135
00:48:21,320 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 6: I was just trying to make records and get them

1136
00:48:23,719 --> 00:48:27,400
Speaker 6: guys popular because I felt like they too good to

1137
00:48:27,480 --> 00:48:31,919
Speaker 6: be such a box group, and they also wanted that song,

1138
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 6: So I'm not gonna just say I pushed it on them.

1139
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:37,359
Speaker 6: But at the same time, I learned in that process

1140
00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:41,200
Speaker 6: they got a fan base, right, and they make love music,

1141
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,920
Speaker 6: and you can't come out with a group that make

1142
00:48:44,000 --> 00:48:46,200
Speaker 6: love music. Talking about if I get caught cheating, that

1143
00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,360
Speaker 6: just is not gonna It's gonna be a crash.

1144
00:48:49,440 --> 00:48:52,359
Speaker 2: So this new project, we put out.

1145
00:48:52,280 --> 00:48:55,960
Speaker 6: Two new records last week, and all I see is

1146
00:48:56,000 --> 00:48:58,120
Speaker 6: people online saying, this is the division we wanted.

1147
00:48:58,160 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 2: This is what I'm talking about, you know, Joe Budden's

1148
00:49:00,560 --> 00:49:02,920
Speaker 2: so you just learned. I just learned. So I don't know.

1149
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,719
Speaker 6: I feel like, you know, I had a look at

1150
00:49:05,760 --> 00:49:08,560
Speaker 6: the things that I feel like I'm not I didn't

1151
00:49:08,600 --> 00:49:11,200
Speaker 6: know what I was doing totally, and then just come

1152
00:49:11,239 --> 00:49:12,600
Speaker 6: back and do it again and try to make it

1153
00:49:12,719 --> 00:49:15,359
Speaker 6: right right the way that I feel like it should

1154
00:49:15,400 --> 00:49:16,200
Speaker 6: have been the first time.

1155
00:49:16,400 --> 00:49:20,960
Speaker 1: What's the hardest personal sacrifice you've made for your career life.

1156
00:49:21,520 --> 00:49:23,720
Speaker 2: I don't really have no life. I just be making music,

1157
00:49:25,040 --> 00:49:25,520
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.

1158
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:27,680
Speaker 6: And I have people that tell me this all the time, like,

1159
00:49:27,760 --> 00:49:31,680
Speaker 6: jad you know, you don't really you My baby mother's

1160
00:49:31,719 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 6: be saying it's like, you know, you your life is

1161
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:37,480
Speaker 6: the music. All you do is care about the music.

1162
00:49:37,480 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 6: All you care about is putting out records. All you

1163
00:49:39,200 --> 00:49:40,840
Speaker 6: care about is doing what you're doing every day. And

1164
00:49:40,840 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 6: that's the truth, it is, That's what it is. I

1165
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 6: don't care about nothing else.

1166
00:49:43,640 --> 00:49:45,280
Speaker 4: You enjoy the money on go on vacation.

1167
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: I mean that come along with it, but it ain't.

1168
00:49:47,120 --> 00:49:48,600
Speaker 2: That's that's not a chase for me.

1169
00:49:49,160 --> 00:49:52,520
Speaker 6: Like my chase is to be you know, like what

1170
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:54,840
Speaker 6: they said on the Billboard, I get number one, I

1171
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:57,680
Speaker 6: feel like I feel like I finally did something by

1172
00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,200
Speaker 6: getting number one on that list.

1173
00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:01,680
Speaker 5: But that it's never enough because more not now.

1174
00:50:01,719 --> 00:50:03,920
Speaker 2: It's like it's but it's also like fighting.

1175
00:50:03,960 --> 00:50:07,879
Speaker 6: It's like boxing, you gotta you gotta can you can

1176
00:50:07,920 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 6: you stay in that space?

1177
00:50:09,880 --> 00:50:10,919
Speaker 2: Right? You know what I'm saying.

1178
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:14,279
Speaker 6: It's like watching Floyd and Tyson tug while they gonna fight.

1179
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:18,160
Speaker 2: It's like Floyd retired, but he still want to be

1180
00:50:18,239 --> 00:50:20,200
Speaker 2: the He wants to be the best. You know what

1181
00:50:20,239 --> 00:50:23,160
Speaker 2: I'm saying. It's like I'm not saying I'm retired. I'm

1182
00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:23,600
Speaker 2: out here.

1183
00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,760
Speaker 6: So I just know that, you know, Like I also

1184
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:28,960
Speaker 6: know that it's space in hip hop and R and

1185
00:50:29,000 --> 00:50:32,960
Speaker 6: B that hasn't been touched. What I'm doing, going from

1186
00:50:33,040 --> 00:50:37,000
Speaker 6: ninety two and being becoming the number one producer the

1187
00:50:37,040 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 6: twenty first century in twenty twenty five ain't been seen

1188
00:50:41,400 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 6: ever ever, Right, So if you start doing shit that

1189
00:50:45,120 --> 00:50:46,880
Speaker 6: ain't never been seen. You don't have no reason. I

1190
00:50:46,880 --> 00:50:49,120
Speaker 6: don't have no reason to stop. I just gotta, you know,

1191
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:51,160
Speaker 6: pray to God that don't stop.

1192
00:50:51,239 --> 00:50:51,680
Speaker 2: You know what I mean?

1193
00:50:51,680 --> 00:50:53,759
Speaker 4: It's funny. I wonder if hip hop had limits you

1194
00:50:53,800 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 4: may do for you.

1195
00:50:54,520 --> 00:50:56,359
Speaker 1: And what I mean by that is when people start

1196
00:50:56,400 --> 00:50:58,680
Speaker 1: talking about, yo, who's the greatest producers of all time,

1197
00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:01,239
Speaker 1: They'll start a bunch of people who do a lot

1198
00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 1: of hip hop records. Right, But you gotta just say

1199
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: Jamaine is a musician. If you if you said Jamaine

1200
00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:09,600
Speaker 1: is is just a musical producer, then I think the

1201
00:51:09,600 --> 00:51:10,960
Speaker 1: conversation is a little bit different.

1202
00:51:11,080 --> 00:51:12,400
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1203
00:51:12,800 --> 00:51:15,840
Speaker 6: I mean it's hard, man, because I feel like I

1204
00:51:16,040 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 6: switched from people. I switch up on people so much

1205
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,399
Speaker 6: when I'm in R and B mode, I'm not telling

1206
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:24,399
Speaker 6: about no rap, right. I remember one time I came

1207
00:51:24,440 --> 00:51:25,840
Speaker 6: up here and I was so R and B and

1208
00:51:25,880 --> 00:51:28,640
Speaker 6: out and I want, I'm waving the flag for R

1209
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 6: and B and I ain't talking about nothing rap. I

1210
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:37,080
Speaker 6: think that confuses the podcast and the guys that usually

1211
00:51:37,080 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 6: talk to me about they like, wait a minute, I

1212
00:51:39,600 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 6: thought this nigga was money anything. And you you know

1213
00:51:42,680 --> 00:51:45,200
Speaker 6: what I mean, Magic City, this niggas over tell me

1214
00:51:45,320 --> 00:51:46,840
Speaker 6: you want to make division.

1215
00:51:46,440 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 2: Records, you know what I mean?

1216
00:51:47,200 --> 00:51:50,560
Speaker 6: I think that that that throws the whole thing off

1217
00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,000
Speaker 6: because I do switch. I mean, that's how That's the

1218
00:51:53,000 --> 00:51:54,279
Speaker 6: only way I can do it. That's the only way

1219
00:51:54,320 --> 00:51:57,520
Speaker 6: I can make it is to get away from, you know,

1220
00:51:57,640 --> 00:51:59,680
Speaker 6: from one thing for a minute and go into that

1221
00:51:59,719 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 6: space and be one in that space.

1222
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:04,880
Speaker 1: Is there a media bias even towards the South, But

1223
00:52:05,160 --> 00:52:07,320
Speaker 1: I think about that with the producers and the artists.

1224
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:09,359
Speaker 1: There's some artists from the South who should be getting

1225
00:52:09,360 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: mentioned its top lyricists all the time. Some producers from

1226
00:52:11,800 --> 00:52:13,319
Speaker 1: the South should be getting mentioned this to us.

1227
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:15,239
Speaker 6: I just think that, and I want to I want

1228
00:52:15,239 --> 00:52:19,080
Speaker 6: to get I want to show Bank a shout out

1229
00:52:19,120 --> 00:52:20,480
Speaker 6: because I feel like his interview with.

1230
00:52:20,520 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 4: Doug Fantastic pushes Brilliant.

1231
00:52:23,280 --> 00:52:28,719
Speaker 6: Finally somebody in Atlanta to the forefront of hip hop

1232
00:52:28,800 --> 00:52:31,160
Speaker 6: media in the city of Atlanta. And I think it's

1233
00:52:31,239 --> 00:52:35,920
Speaker 6: taken thirty years for somebody in the city of Atlanta

1234
00:52:35,960 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 6: to be the person that you have to sit down

1235
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:41,160
Speaker 6: and talk to if you that guy in hip hop,

1236
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:43,280
Speaker 6: and he just made himself that person.

1237
00:52:43,320 --> 00:52:47,239
Speaker 4: If you asked, I'm glad. I'm saying that. I said

1238
00:52:47,239 --> 00:52:47,799
Speaker 4: it on the air.

1239
00:52:47,920 --> 00:52:52,520
Speaker 1: Regional identity matters in media and everything, and Atlanta has

1240
00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,360
Speaker 1: been the hip hop capital for so long, but has

1241
00:52:55,440 --> 00:52:57,759
Speaker 1: never had that media Prince Luther Gray screening on, but

1242
00:52:57,760 --> 00:53:00,040
Speaker 1: they've never had that person You've got to go.

1243
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:01,919
Speaker 6: And I think that's the problem, is like every time

1244
00:53:02,000 --> 00:53:03,320
Speaker 6: somebody from Atlanta that's.

1245
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,879
Speaker 2: Popped, they always had to come to New York.

1246
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 6: And no disrespect, but I've been saying it should have

1247
00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:14,400
Speaker 6: been somebody that did what he did with Future Ludacris

1248
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:15,120
Speaker 6: w TI.

1249
00:53:15,040 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 2: I got out of jail.

1250
00:53:16,520 --> 00:53:18,719
Speaker 6: We know had so many artists that had so many

1251
00:53:18,760 --> 00:53:22,240
Speaker 6: stories or they missed the opportunity like what just happened

1252
00:53:22,239 --> 00:53:24,280
Speaker 6: with Doug because we don't have that person in the city,

1253
00:53:24,280 --> 00:53:27,400
Speaker 6: and that just that goes to the culture like people

1254
00:53:27,400 --> 00:53:29,200
Speaker 6: should Like I just saw the magazine out there with

1255
00:53:29,239 --> 00:53:31,160
Speaker 6: you on the front covered Variety. I've never seen that

1256
00:53:31,239 --> 00:53:35,240
Speaker 6: before right in Atlanta. I don't think young people read

1257
00:53:35,480 --> 00:53:38,960
Speaker 6: and see things like that to push them to say, you.

1258
00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,799
Speaker 2: Know what, I'm wanna do what Charlamage doing? Man? I

1259
00:53:41,840 --> 00:53:42,759
Speaker 2: want to do what Envy doing?

1260
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 6: He got a call show, Like they don't see that

1261
00:53:45,640 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 6: enough to distract them. All they see is JD throwing

1262
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,400
Speaker 6: money and this nigga throwing money them nigga rapping Niggas'm

1263
00:53:52,400 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 6: gonna be. I'm gonna be a rapper. Nah, you ain't

1264
00:53:54,239 --> 00:53:55,240
Speaker 6: gotta be no rapper.

1265
00:53:55,600 --> 00:53:57,400
Speaker 2: You know what I mean? Bank getting ready to hit

1266
00:53:57,440 --> 00:53:57,799
Speaker 2: the bank.

1267
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:00,680
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, based on the way he

1268
00:54:00,800 --> 00:54:03,040
Speaker 6: just did that one interview, As far as I'm concerned,

1269
00:54:03,080 --> 00:54:05,200
Speaker 6: if he do what he gotta do and he keep

1270
00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:08,040
Speaker 6: it at that level and the way he talked to him,

1271
00:54:08,160 --> 00:54:10,440
Speaker 6: it makes you gonna have people that really want to

1272
00:54:10,480 --> 00:54:12,399
Speaker 6: sit down and like, let you interview him the same

1273
00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:12,960
Speaker 6: way you did.

1274
00:54:13,040 --> 00:54:15,680
Speaker 1: And Big Facts has already been that platform to me, right,

1275
00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,719
Speaker 1: And then now to see Bank doing the perspective with banks, yeah,

1276
00:54:18,800 --> 00:54:19,360
Speaker 1: I agree with that.

1277
00:54:19,880 --> 00:54:21,480
Speaker 2: But it took thirty years, That's what I'm saying.

1278
00:54:21,600 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 6: Took thirty years for somebody to say, this is what

1279
00:54:26,719 --> 00:54:28,920
Speaker 6: we need, I'm gonna do it like this, right, And

1280
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:31,839
Speaker 6: I'm really happy to see that. I feel like that's

1281
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,720
Speaker 6: gonna turn that's gonna change the city, because that's gonna people.

1282
00:54:35,960 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: Somebody gonna see.

1283
00:54:36,800 --> 00:54:38,960
Speaker 6: That and they gonna create another one. Right, and at

1284
00:54:38,960 --> 00:54:41,080
Speaker 6: that point, that world will open up.

1285
00:54:41,080 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 2: Because when I came here, I think the beginning of me.

1286
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,160
Speaker 6: Talking about Magic City, I was like, Yo, everybody in

1287
00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 6: New York got a fucking podcast. I mean everywhere I went,

1288
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,680
Speaker 6: everybody got podcasts cluing him. Got one across the street

1289
00:54:53,719 --> 00:54:57,680
Speaker 6: in a little bar, everybody fat Joe them. I was

1290
00:54:57,719 --> 00:54:59,880
Speaker 6: going to all of them. I mean, carmeloed them out

1291
00:54:59,880 --> 00:55:03,480
Speaker 6: of Brooklyn. It's a podcast everywhere. I was just like this,

1292
00:55:03,920 --> 00:55:05,920
Speaker 6: this this bug ain't hit Atlanta yet.

1293
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,080
Speaker 1: N They got him in Atlanta because you got Big Facts,

1294
00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:10,600
Speaker 1: you got Bank, got eighty five South shows in Atlanta.

1295
00:55:10,640 --> 00:55:12,760
Speaker 4: You got Pull Mind podcast based out of Atlanta.

1296
00:55:13,600 --> 00:55:18,120
Speaker 2: Four y'all have about twenty out there, you know, I

1297
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:18,960
Speaker 2: mean you know what I mean.

1298
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:21,680
Speaker 6: It's just and they moving. Y'all got y'all got twenty

1299
00:55:21,680 --> 00:55:24,239
Speaker 6: out here, that's moving. I'm just saying, these guys that

1300
00:55:24,320 --> 00:55:26,319
Speaker 6: you like the eighty five South show, I think that's

1301
00:55:26,320 --> 00:55:27,600
Speaker 6: probably the closest next.

1302
00:55:28,280 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: But after that, it ain't no real Like, ain't nobody

1303
00:55:31,120 --> 00:55:31,840
Speaker 2: you gotta.

1304
00:55:31,600 --> 00:55:35,520
Speaker 6: Talk to Big You ain't got to talk to them,

1305
00:55:35,560 --> 00:55:37,920
Speaker 6: That's what I'm saying. I'm just talking about as far

1306
00:55:37,960 --> 00:55:40,840
Speaker 6: as like, if you want of these people, I feel

1307
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:43,880
Speaker 6: like we don't have we ain't had nobody that you

1308
00:55:44,120 --> 00:55:46,120
Speaker 6: have to talk to, Like if they was like call

1309
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:48,359
Speaker 6: me Carla wrec compan they like jo Ja Man, who

1310
00:55:48,360 --> 00:55:49,640
Speaker 6: you wanna have a in.

1311
00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:53,359
Speaker 2: Depth conversation with your name? Your name is gonna come up?

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Speaker 6: And then who's the competitor to Charlemagne in Atlanta?

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00:55:59,120 --> 00:56:00,800
Speaker 5: From Atlanta to you know put in?

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00:56:02,160 --> 00:56:04,200
Speaker 6: So I just feel like I feel like Bank put

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Speaker 6: himself in the category to get you know, the Gucci mans,

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00:56:08,640 --> 00:56:09,840
Speaker 6: all of these people that we want.

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00:56:09,719 --> 00:56:13,160
Speaker 1: To hearing Bank right now, Gunna should be calling Bank

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00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,040
Speaker 1: like I need to come sit down with you and

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00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:16,560
Speaker 1: just to read that.

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Speaker 4: They reply.

1321
00:56:17,719 --> 00:56:19,920
Speaker 2: But yeah, I mean, but it ain't even like.

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00:56:21,880 --> 00:56:24,080
Speaker 6: It's just like I said, he just made it where

1323
00:56:26,719 --> 00:56:29,440
Speaker 6: like Oprah Winfrey, like you want to watch it, you

1324
00:56:29,480 --> 00:56:31,560
Speaker 6: want to hear it. And he's not gonna hold back

1325
00:56:31,600 --> 00:56:36,400
Speaker 6: on the questions. And he's creditable in that category to

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00:56:36,480 --> 00:56:37,800
Speaker 6: where you can't run.

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00:56:37,640 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 2: No bullshit on him. Is he gonna let you know

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00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:41,440
Speaker 2: you running some bullshit?

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Speaker 5: That's what I love. He was He wasn't afraid to

1330
00:56:43,120 --> 00:56:43,520
Speaker 5: push back.

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00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 2: Nah.

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00:56:43,840 --> 00:56:46,319
Speaker 6: But I mean, but he don't have no that's him.

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00:56:46,719 --> 00:56:48,279
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying he wanted He the guy

1334
00:56:48,320 --> 00:56:50,319
Speaker 6: that told me when I said, He's like, Jad, we

1335
00:56:50,360 --> 00:56:52,279
Speaker 6: thought you you want you want to be from New York.

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00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:54,640
Speaker 6: That's who told me that, right, And I'm like, nah,

1337
00:56:54,719 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 6: I wasn't trying to be from New York. I'm trying

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00:56:56,640 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 6: to just push my music. And I just feel like,

1339
00:56:59,400 --> 00:57:01,160
Speaker 6: like I said I part them on that interview, he

1340
00:57:01,200 --> 00:57:01,480
Speaker 6: did it.

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00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:04,399
Speaker 1: They have two more questions. What's the one misconception about

1342
00:57:04,480 --> 00:57:05,800
Speaker 1: JD that you wish people would.

1343
00:57:05,680 --> 00:57:06,040
Speaker 2: Let go of.

1344
00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:12,839
Speaker 6: That I'm anything like any of these other people that

1345
00:57:12,880 --> 00:57:17,800
Speaker 6: we talk about. I don't do none of the the

1346
00:57:18,440 --> 00:57:21,600
Speaker 6: people talking about they got a case with Chris krusting it.

1347
00:57:21,680 --> 00:57:24,240
Speaker 2: I don't do none of that. Ship all that shit. People,

1348
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:25,800
Speaker 2: I don't know. I ain't got time for all that.

1349
00:57:25,920 --> 00:57:28,760
Speaker 6: I make music, Right, If you want to talk about music,

1350
00:57:29,080 --> 00:57:30,360
Speaker 6: then that's what we talk about. If you want to

1351
00:57:30,360 --> 00:57:32,360
Speaker 6: talk about all this other bullshit that's going on in

1352
00:57:32,400 --> 00:57:36,720
Speaker 6: the world, I'm not your guy for free costs whatever

1353
00:57:36,720 --> 00:57:38,880
Speaker 6: you want to call it, like not freaks. I think

1354
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 6: like you know, like you know, they got like transporting

1355
00:57:41,640 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 6: kids and all this type of shit going on out

1356
00:57:43,440 --> 00:57:46,920
Speaker 6: here now. And just I feel like because we have

1357
00:57:47,080 --> 00:57:50,720
Speaker 6: seen so many people do and get in trouble for things.

1358
00:57:51,400 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 2: You know, It's like, well, JD part of that system.

1359
00:57:54,720 --> 00:57:56,640
Speaker 5: Too, JD. I ain't never hear bullshit.

1360
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:59,840
Speaker 6: Nah, But I'm saying like that. I mean, you know,

1361
00:58:00,080 --> 00:58:04,040
Speaker 6: I'm around long time, but I'm just from saying I'm not.

1362
00:58:04,320 --> 00:58:06,200
Speaker 6: I don't I don't have no reason to be doing that,

1363
00:58:06,360 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 6: Like I don't have no reason to do it. And

1364
00:58:08,120 --> 00:58:10,400
Speaker 6: I think a lot of people don't understand. Like a

1365
00:58:10,440 --> 00:58:13,600
Speaker 6: lot of my success I was with Janet, you know

1366
00:58:13,600 --> 00:58:15,600
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like I had, I was the first

1367
00:58:15,720 --> 00:58:18,360
Speaker 6: nigga to be out here doing that besides Bobby and Whitney,

1368
00:58:18,680 --> 00:58:20,120
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. Me and Janet was together

1369
00:58:20,160 --> 00:58:22,720
Speaker 6: before Jay and Hole. I mean Jay and b actually

1370
00:58:22,760 --> 00:58:26,520
Speaker 6: really announced it. So I was kind of like pushed

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00:58:26,520 --> 00:58:28,560
Speaker 6: to the side, like a boyfriend type of dude that

1372
00:58:28,760 --> 00:58:31,200
Speaker 6: was like just making music. So I don't know, I

1373
00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:33,440
Speaker 6: just think I think that's the one. I think people

1374
00:58:33,560 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 6: just they want me to be in that shit, but

1375
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,200
Speaker 6: I'm not going in that direction.

1376
00:58:38,720 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you wanted a few.

1377
00:58:40,400 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 1: It seems like yo, you jay Z, like y'all planes

1378
00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:47,400
Speaker 1: are landing with the wheels out of the lot people

1379
00:58:47,400 --> 00:58:48,880
Speaker 1: planes did not land with the wheels.

1380
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:50,960
Speaker 6: I mean, well, I had this conversation with Chad because

1381
00:58:51,040 --> 00:58:53,280
Speaker 6: chad Ellie shout out to chad Elle, that's my best friend.

1382
00:58:53,520 --> 00:58:56,680
Speaker 2: And we've been friends since I was twelve thirteen, and

1383
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:01,000
Speaker 2: we was talking about the list of Billboard list and

1384
00:59:01,040 --> 00:59:02,480
Speaker 2: we started out in the garage.

1385
00:59:02,600 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 6: I used to live with him in Brooklyn Easton Parkway,

1386
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,360
Speaker 6: and we was we used to make you know, we

1387
00:59:07,480 --> 00:59:09,920
Speaker 6: go buy records and we ain't know what he's doing.

1388
00:59:09,960 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 6: Was just trying to make beats and we ain't have

1389
00:59:11,520 --> 00:59:14,000
Speaker 6: no drum machines. We just used to use our imagination.

1390
00:59:14,720 --> 00:59:17,640
Speaker 6: And I was telling him about it other night. Was

1391
00:59:17,680 --> 00:59:19,560
Speaker 6: I was like, yo, we got a toast. I'm number

1392
00:59:19,640 --> 00:59:23,240
Speaker 6: one producer, right And he was like, man, just sitting

1393
00:59:23,280 --> 00:59:25,040
Speaker 6: here think about it made me want to cry because

1394
00:59:25,040 --> 00:59:28,360
Speaker 6: it's like what we went through for me to even

1395
00:59:28,400 --> 00:59:31,800
Speaker 6: be in that space, I don't think people even realize.

1396
00:59:31,800 --> 00:59:36,080
Speaker 6: So it's just like, I'm all all I focus on

1397
00:59:36,200 --> 00:59:38,840
Speaker 6: is that man just trying to be I'm a I'm

1398
00:59:38,840 --> 00:59:40,600
Speaker 6: a you know, I'm trying to be the top of

1399
00:59:40,880 --> 00:59:43,280
Speaker 6: the top of the game and I made it.

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00:59:43,520 --> 00:59:45,320
Speaker 2: I'm just trying to stay in that space.

1401
00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:47,480
Speaker 1: When your name is mentioned fifty years from now, what's

1402
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: the one record or one artist you want to define

1403
00:59:50,760 --> 00:59:51,360
Speaker 1: your legacy.

1404
00:59:53,960 --> 00:59:56,400
Speaker 6: I don't know who the artist is. Somebody great, I

1405
00:59:56,400 --> 00:59:59,240
Speaker 6: mean I think, you know, I think like watching Mariah

1406
00:59:59,280 --> 01:00:05,440
Speaker 6: get Van Gold Award and her performing in that piece

1407
01:00:05,680 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 6: to records that I did, I think that means that

1408
01:00:08,800 --> 01:00:10,560
Speaker 6: means a lot, you know what I mean, like almost

1409
01:00:10,640 --> 01:00:14,400
Speaker 6: like you're saying, it's like my records a loud enough

1410
01:00:14,400 --> 01:00:16,560
Speaker 6: to make people damnar believe that I had something to

1411
01:00:16,600 --> 01:00:17,440
Speaker 6: do with her success.

1412
01:00:17,920 --> 01:00:20,400
Speaker 2: And that's a that's a that's a to me, that's.

1413
01:00:20,200 --> 01:00:23,680
Speaker 6: A mean accomplishment because I didn't have anything to do

1414
01:00:23,760 --> 01:00:25,640
Speaker 6: with her becoming who she is.

1415
01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:29,560
Speaker 4: That's not true. That's not true. I mean because it's

1416
01:00:29,560 --> 01:00:30,160
Speaker 4: a second wave.

1417
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,120
Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm saying I think I think I might

1418
01:00:32,160 --> 01:00:35,560
Speaker 6: have made more black people like her, Yes, but she

1419
01:00:35,720 --> 01:00:36,920
Speaker 6: still Rode Carrett.

1420
01:00:37,120 --> 01:00:39,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, but it says something you me. I mean, I

1421
01:00:39,560 --> 01:00:42,600
Speaker 1: mean the best album I get it me me is

1422
01:00:42,600 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: Brod Carey's best album. Absolutely, that's probably.

1423
01:00:44,600 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 4: The definitive album of her whole career. That's her thriller.

1424
01:00:48,720 --> 01:00:49,360
Speaker 4: It is.

1425
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,800
Speaker 6: I don't know, I don't know. Run well, Yeah, I

1426
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:54,760
Speaker 6: mean before I go, I got an album. I think

1427
01:00:54,760 --> 01:00:57,400
Speaker 6: my album's coming out on Friday. Yeah, I think because

1428
01:00:57,440 --> 01:00:59,720
Speaker 6: I've been I had a lot of sample clearance issues.

1429
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,760
Speaker 6: We're supposed to come out last Friday to go with

1430
01:01:02,840 --> 01:01:05,080
Speaker 6: the doc, but I'm hoping it comes out this Friday

1431
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:08,680
Speaker 6: because this is the last episode of Magic City this Friday,

1432
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:11,160
Speaker 6: so we're trying to make sure the album comes out

1433
01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:13,040
Speaker 6: and I'm supposed to turn it in by four o'clock.

1434
01:01:13,120 --> 01:01:16,000
Speaker 2: So that's what my running is, all right, that's what

1435
01:01:16,040 --> 01:01:16,960
Speaker 2: my phone is doing.

1436
01:01:16,800 --> 01:01:17,120
Speaker 5: All right.

1437
01:01:17,200 --> 01:01:19,640
Speaker 3: Well JD Jamain Dupre may make you check out the

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01:01:19,640 --> 01:01:21,240
Speaker 3: Magic City Dock and of course the album.

1439
01:01:21,240 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 5: We appreciate you always for joining us.

1440
01:01:23,080 --> 01:01:23,360
Speaker 2: Thank you.

1441
01:01:23,480 --> 01:01:24,560
Speaker 5: It's the Breakfast Club's j.

1442
01:01:25,280 --> 01:01:28,800
Speaker 2: Hold every day a week ago. Click your ass up

1443
01:01:28,880 --> 01:01:32,840
Speaker 2: the Breakfast Club. You're finished for y'all done it.