WEBVTT - Deepak Chopra Plus One: Finding Peace in a Chaotic World 0:00:04.400 --> 0:00:07.200 If you want peace in the world, start with your 0:00:07.200 --> 0:00:11.119 own peace. But right now that we have is the 0:00:11.200 --> 0:00:14.800 recycling of trauma, and the memory of trauma is anger. 0:00:15.280 --> 0:00:20.079 The desire to get even is hostility. Blaming yourself is 0:00:20.160 --> 0:00:23.880 guilt and shame. And then the depletion of energy that 0:00:24.000 --> 0:00:27.479 happens as a result is called depression, which is the 0:00:27.560 --> 0:00:31.520 number one pandemic recycling of trauma. So if we want 0:00:31.560 --> 0:00:34.919 to change the world, we have to stop recycling trauma. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.960 Today, we're bringing you a conversation straight from the Lake 0:00:39.040 --> 0:00:43.400 Nana Impact form at the KPMG's Learning an Innovation Center's 0:00:43.560 --> 0:00:47.519 Lake House in Orlando's Lake Nana Community, a place where 0:00:47.560 --> 0:00:50.479 the brightest minds come together to shape the future of health, 0:00:50.640 --> 0:00:55.640 wellness and medical innovation. This is my legacy, host it 0:00:55.680 --> 0:00:59.640 by me Andrea Waters King alongside my husband Martin Luther 0:00:59.720 --> 0:01:03.080 King the Third and our good friends Mark and Craig Kilberger. 0:01:03.520 --> 0:01:04.319 Let's dive in. 0:01:05.600 --> 0:01:07.680 Before we begin today's episode, we want to let our 0:01:07.720 --> 0:01:10.200 listeners and viewers know that we will be discussing issues 0:01:10.280 --> 0:01:13.800 related to violence, suicide, and mental health. Some of the 0:01:13.840 --> 0:01:17.039 topics may be distressing if you or someone you know 0:01:17.120 --> 0:01:22.120 is struggling. We encourage you to seek professional support. Resources 0:01:22.360 --> 0:01:26.480 like the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline dial nine eight eight 0:01:27.120 --> 0:01:31.679 or the Crisis Text hotline text home to seven four 0:01:32.200 --> 0:01:35.360 one seven four to one are available twenty four to seven. 0:01:35.760 --> 0:01:38.840 Please know that this conversation is for information purposes only 0:01:38.880 --> 0:01:42.319 and does not constitute medical advice. Your well being is 0:01:42.520 --> 0:01:45.800 critically important. Please listen at your own pace, and please 0:01:45.800 --> 0:01:48.400 don't hesitate to take breaks or skip ahead of needed 0:01:50.440 --> 0:01:52.760 Welcome to My Legacy, where we explore what it means 0:01:52.800 --> 0:01:55.880 to create a living legacy. Today, we're honored to sit 0:01:55.920 --> 0:01:59.200 down with two extraordinary individuals who have dedicated their lives 0:01:59.200 --> 0:02:04.520 to healing, mental health, and transformation. Chopra is the pioneering 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:08.320 doctor whose teachings on mindfulness and consciousness have impacted millions. 0:02:08.639 --> 0:02:11.720 He's the founder of the Chopra Foundation. He's written over 0:02:11.840 --> 0:02:16.440 ninety five books, including multiple New York Times bestsellers. Gabriella 0:02:16.480 --> 0:02:19.160 Wright is an actress and the co founder of the 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.800 Never Alone Initiative, a movement dedicated to mental well being 0:02:22.919 --> 0:02:27.720 and suicide prevention. Through dynamic storytelling and powerful advocacy, She's 0:02:27.800 --> 0:02:32.400 helping people find hope and healing. Deepak, you've known Gabriella 0:02:32.440 --> 0:02:36.240 for a while. What about her journey inspired you to 0:02:36.280 --> 0:02:37.400 want to collaborate with her. 0:02:37.680 --> 0:02:42.120 Well, it's a long story, but I suspect it's a 0:02:42.120 --> 0:02:42.440 good one. 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:42.760 Yeah. 0:02:43.520 --> 0:02:46.880 The most important thing is that Gabriella, she had a 0:02:46.919 --> 0:02:52.600 traumatic experience during her childhood and she took that and 0:02:52.639 --> 0:02:57.480 reframed that trauma into an opportunity to help other people. 0:02:57.960 --> 0:03:02.320 And so she started this movement called Never Alone, which 0:03:02.360 --> 0:03:08.480 is a global forum for people getting together with four 0:03:08.560 --> 0:03:14.120 ideas attention, affection, appreciation, and acceptance. And the hope is 0:03:14.160 --> 0:03:20.480 to create global online and offline communities where people take 0:03:20.520 --> 0:03:25.400 the responsibility for healing each other emotionally and spiritually. 0:03:25.560 --> 0:03:34.080 So attention which means deep listening, affection, deep caring and love, Compassion, appreciation, 0:03:34.280 --> 0:03:37.080 noticing that everyone is a unique history of the universe. 0:03:38.000 --> 0:03:45.080 And acceptance, accepting everybody just as they are radically. That's 0:03:45.160 --> 0:03:48.800 the initiative and we're very proud to associate with her 0:03:48.880 --> 0:03:50.320 and that thank you. 0:03:50.400 --> 0:03:51.600 Deepakak. 0:03:51.640 --> 0:03:54.120 You started your journey in India where you were raised 0:03:54.160 --> 0:03:57.119 in a family that was deeply rooted both in medicine 0:03:57.240 --> 0:04:00.560 and in healing in spirituality. When you go back and 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.320 help us understand some of those early moments that helped 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:04.400 shape who you are. 0:04:06.160 --> 0:04:11.040 Yeah, my father was a military doctor in the British Army. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:15.000 He was a pioneer in his own way. He was 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:19.159 the first person to describe what we now call high 0:04:19.200 --> 0:04:24.680 altitude heart failure when the Indian and Chinese army, who 0:04:24.640 --> 0:04:28.600 were at war, he was in Tibet doing cardia cat 0:04:29.520 --> 0:04:33.279 and discovering a new disease. He was a fellow of 0:04:33.279 --> 0:04:37.719 the Royal College. He was for a time a physician 0:04:37.839 --> 0:04:41.720 to the Queen who just passed away, and he was 0:04:41.839 --> 0:04:47.080 very famous actually, But he was a hardcore scientist and 0:04:47.240 --> 0:04:54.400 my mother was the extreme opposite. She was totally immersed, 0:04:54.520 --> 0:04:59.320 I would say, in spiritual longing more than anything else. 0:05:00.360 --> 0:05:05.960 She read spiritual poetry to us, including the poems of Roomy. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:12.400 But she would spend all day singing hymns, spiritual hymns, 0:05:13.279 --> 0:05:17.960 but they're all in the former stories, mythical stories. And 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:20.919 before we went to sleep at night, she would start 0:05:21.040 --> 0:05:26.040 with a great story and then she would stop at 0:05:26.160 --> 0:05:30.160 what is now called a cliffhanger, and then she would say, 0:05:30.160 --> 0:05:31.919 I want you to dream up the rest of the 0:05:32.000 --> 0:05:36.679 story for the night and make it a happy ending, 0:05:37.480 --> 0:05:39.440 and make sure it's a love story, because if it's 0:05:39.480 --> 0:05:44.120 not a love story, it's not a good story. Me 0:05:44.240 --> 0:05:47.520 and my little brother learned how to actually take the 0:05:47.839 --> 0:05:53.200 moment of crisis in the story to make it a 0:05:53.320 --> 0:05:56.320 happy ending and make it a love story no matter 0:05:56.480 --> 0:06:00.440 how you know, what was everything was wrong when to stop, 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:04.480 But in the morning, everything was right when we woke up. 0:06:04.760 --> 0:06:06.279 That can be taken into the world. 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:08.960 Yeah, now, so you know, we learned how to reframe 0:06:09.040 --> 0:06:12.839 every adversity as a happy ending and a love story. 0:06:13.240 --> 0:06:15.800 What's your favorite Roomy? Do you have a favorite Roomy 0:06:16.800 --> 0:06:19.159 quote or passage from Roomy? 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:22.360 I have many. One of my favorites is if you're 0:06:22.400 --> 0:06:25.880 not naked by now, go back to sleep, And that's 0:06:26.200 --> 0:06:31.800 a many levels naked of spirit. When you're totally vulnerable, 0:06:32.640 --> 0:06:36.400 then you surrender to the divine. Of course, Roomy is 0:06:36.520 --> 0:06:40.240 very ecstatic, so you know, it's always full of the 0:06:40.279 --> 0:06:44.800 intoxication of love. Yes, in one way or another. So 0:06:46.000 --> 0:06:48.080 you're not just a drop in the ocean. You're also 0:06:48.160 --> 0:06:52.680 the ocean in the drop. Yes, stop being small, You're 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:55.080 the universe in ecstatic motion. 0:06:56.200 --> 0:06:59.600 On my phone, I get Roomy updates once every three 0:06:59.600 --> 0:07:02.120 hours like that. Throughout the day. 0:07:02.160 --> 0:07:06.160 It's it's a great way to feel intoxicated with love. 0:07:06.279 --> 0:07:10.120 It is Gabrielle, who are some of the most influential 0:07:10.160 --> 0:07:13.160 people in your childhood and what are some of the 0:07:13.160 --> 0:07:16.320 biggest lessons they passed on down to you. 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.880 I would start probably with my father. I mean, I know, 0:07:21.000 --> 0:07:25.280 it's because I always used to I realized very young 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.520 that I was very lucky to have my father be 0:07:28.680 --> 0:07:32.840 my father. Does that make sense, Like just very very lucky, 0:07:34.200 --> 0:07:37.560 especially when I was at school and I realized what 0:07:37.680 --> 0:07:41.400 was going on in other people's homes. And so my 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:44.560 father is an artist. He was one of the first 0:07:44.600 --> 0:07:48.120 to do video art in the sixties, so performance art, 0:07:49.160 --> 0:07:56.559 huge paintings, sculptures, and he always kept our imagination alive 0:07:56.640 --> 0:08:01.040 actually very much like your mother. And so because he 0:08:01.080 --> 0:08:04.800 would tell us stories at night, and he would make 0:08:04.840 --> 0:08:07.080 sure that the three sisters were in the story. So 0:08:07.120 --> 0:08:10.040 we were in the story. We were traveling through a 0:08:10.080 --> 0:08:14.000 magical mirror every night and going into other worlds where 0:08:14.000 --> 0:08:17.360 we were saving people basically, and there were dragons and 0:08:17.400 --> 0:08:22.200 giant tomatoes and all of these fantastical things. By the way, 0:08:22.360 --> 0:08:25.640 way before Harry Potter. So just letting you know, yes, 0:08:25.800 --> 0:08:29.000 this is way like way before Harry Potter. The English 0:08:29.040 --> 0:08:33.359 have something in common. We love dark humor and fantastical imaginations, 0:08:33.400 --> 0:08:35.840 probably because the weather is really bad in England, but 0:08:36.280 --> 0:08:40.040 we have that. And so he has been very instrumental 0:08:40.080 --> 0:08:42.880 in my life. And then when I looked at other figures, 0:08:43.000 --> 0:08:47.280 just because when I was growing up, Sir David Attenborough 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:52.760 as well. So David Attenborough was someone very influential in 0:08:52.760 --> 0:08:55.520 my life. I've still never met him, but the fact 0:08:55.800 --> 0:09:03.160 his reminiscent voice, his understand and awe of nature. And 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.160 I was brought up in London, so yes we would 0:09:06.200 --> 0:09:08.280 go on holiday to different places, but never in the 0:09:08.320 --> 0:09:12.600 exotic places that so David Adenburgh would show. And so 0:09:12.720 --> 0:09:16.560 that always gave me a lot of freedom in my 0:09:16.679 --> 0:09:19.280 thoughts actually, but I didn't know it was that at 0:09:19.280 --> 0:09:22.600 the time. So when I say childhood, probably till you 0:09:22.640 --> 0:09:25.959 know fifteen, and then of course Shakespeare, you know the 0:09:26.480 --> 0:09:30.960 you know, the fight for freedom of thought, speech, place, 0:09:32.920 --> 0:09:35.680 Gandhi as well. But these were all things that came 0:09:35.720 --> 0:09:40.000 with education. I suppose later on my roles models changed 0:09:40.040 --> 0:09:42.959 and evolved, but those were the keys of how I 0:09:43.000 --> 0:09:47.240 started being falling in love with life. Despite all, like 0:09:47.280 --> 0:09:50.600 you said earlier, despite challenges. 0:09:50.400 --> 0:09:53.400 Growing up in London, did you fill a connection with 0:09:53.920 --> 0:09:56.000 Gandhi in India? 0:09:56.360 --> 0:10:03.120 You know, my mother is French, Portuguese Mauritian and I Mauritian. 0:10:03.200 --> 0:10:06.959 We have Indian descent and creole, so we're a big mix. 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:12.520 Not particularly when I was growing up. My mother was 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.480 very much involved in science. She's a marine biologist, so 0:10:15.520 --> 0:10:18.400 we didn't have we had a cultural mix, but everything 0:10:18.480 --> 0:10:21.400 was integrated. Like, for example, when you go to school 0:10:21.440 --> 0:10:24.960 in London, there's something quite extraordinary is that every culture 0:10:25.040 --> 0:10:28.680 is mixed. So you have a Bangladeshi teacher, you'd have 0:10:29.000 --> 0:10:35.040 a Pakistani lunch day, You'll have very unfortunately disgusting custard 0:10:35.160 --> 0:10:39.120 English custard for desert, you know, but everything is, you know, 0:10:39.280 --> 0:10:42.560 very culturally mixed. And I haven't seen that in any 0:10:42.559 --> 0:10:45.360 other country to be honest to this day. So I 0:10:45.400 --> 0:10:47.920 was lucky to have that. So everything was just integrated. 0:10:48.400 --> 0:10:53.280 I suppose my first understanding of India was when actually 0:10:53.320 --> 0:10:58.600 something happened to me that pushed me into an understanding 0:10:58.720 --> 0:11:02.200 beyond what I was act experiencing as suffering, like and 0:11:02.240 --> 0:11:06.599 I was looking for something through a solution where is 0:11:06.640 --> 0:11:09.720 the root of my suffering. And that's when things came 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:13.320 to me the Gandhi teachings. Other than just learning at school, 0:11:13.880 --> 0:11:17.280 I'm talking about outside of school, classic school. I'm talking 0:11:17.280 --> 0:11:20.000 about where did the wonderment comes from? You know, the 0:11:20.080 --> 0:11:24.840 desire to know more? And that came to me after 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:29.480 I experienced physical abuse and rape when I was eighteen. 0:11:29.880 --> 0:11:32.679 So I was pushed, like my soul was pushed to 0:11:32.720 --> 0:11:37.640 a yearn for that, and in a good way, you know, 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.520 I wanted to be thrown into the abyss is because 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:44.040 we have to find different ways. We have to get 0:11:44.080 --> 0:11:47.600 out of our structural understanding of life and what we 0:11:47.640 --> 0:11:50.360 think life is and also what we think we are, 0:11:51.480 --> 0:11:56.360 you know, out of the labels, right, the labels. So yeah, 0:11:56.400 --> 0:12:00.560 that's how I would say, say the spiritual journey begun. 0:12:01.880 --> 0:12:05.680 To understand the post traumatic growth, we have to go back. 0:12:05.480 --> 0:12:06.080 To the trauma. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:10.000 Yes, absolutely, and deep hat you indicated it a moment 0:12:10.040 --> 0:12:13.200 ago where you reference that there was this moment that 0:12:13.240 --> 0:12:15.559 happened in your life that was and it sounds like 0:12:15.600 --> 0:12:17.280 a number of moments that were deeply pivotal. 0:12:17.440 --> 0:12:18.760 Absolutely, and if. 0:12:18.640 --> 0:12:21.280 You could and if you feel comfortable, go to those 0:12:21.320 --> 0:12:24.320 moments to help us understand who you are and also 0:12:24.360 --> 0:12:26.480 to speak to us a little bit. But this extraordinary 0:12:26.480 --> 0:12:28.319 work you now do on mental health, and I understand 0:12:28.320 --> 0:12:29.960 part of that's inspired by Paulette. 0:12:30.080 --> 0:12:35.600 Yes, absolutely, yes, So I suppose you know we are 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:42.080 a moving landscape and to echo to doctor Deepak Chopra's teachings, 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.520 and what we do is we unravel our conditioning. And 0:12:47.000 --> 0:12:50.400 that's important because when we experienced trauma like I did, 0:12:50.520 --> 0:12:55.360 like I said earlier, a sudden rape and it hurls 0:12:55.400 --> 0:13:00.600 you into self reflection and experiencing physical pain, but we 0:13:00.720 --> 0:13:04.640 realized that that very quickly becomes mental pain. So all 0:13:04.679 --> 0:13:07.120 of a sudden, it becomes something that is around you 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:11.679 that you're constantly involved in, and it kind of blurs 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:15.720 your perception of reality of what truth is. Everything is blurry. 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:20.560 Everything leads to mental confusion, physical confusion, and you have 0:13:20.720 --> 0:13:23.680 no zest for life anymore. And the fact of if 0:13:23.720 --> 0:13:25.720 you can't go, if you don't have the tools to 0:13:25.800 --> 0:13:30.240 go back to spirit or quote unquote the blank canvas 0:13:30.280 --> 0:13:33.880 of who you truly are, then all you see is 0:13:34.760 --> 0:13:39.360 a landscape that is tainted with darker colors of your perception. 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:42.200 And that for me, I did not want to live. 0:13:42.320 --> 0:13:43.960 So that was a choice I made. I said, you 0:13:43.960 --> 0:13:47.160 know what, thanks to my childhood, I've experienced wonder and 0:13:47.280 --> 0:13:50.839 awe and the imagination. I want to go to go 0:13:50.920 --> 0:13:53.480 back to that. So I was lucky to have that 0:13:53.520 --> 0:13:59.839 foundational understanding of what is possible. So that was the 0:14:00.040 --> 0:14:03.280 very lucky. But I had to get back there. So 0:14:03.320 --> 0:14:04.880 you have to create a bridge, you have to find 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:08.280 a system, You have to ask questions. And I definitely 0:14:08.320 --> 0:14:11.840 didn't want to go down a numbing of emotions. But 0:14:11.960 --> 0:14:14.680 in my case, I was more interested to go back 0:14:14.720 --> 0:14:18.520 to the route and up route the suffering, and that 0:14:18.600 --> 0:14:22.200 led me to wisdom traditions. One thing synchronicity. You ask 0:14:22.280 --> 0:14:24.800 the question. You meet a stranger all of a sudden 0:14:24.840 --> 0:14:27.359 he's meditating in a park, and there I am meditating, 0:14:27.400 --> 0:14:30.760 not knowing what meditation was, but by imitating posture, it 0:14:30.800 --> 0:14:34.440 starts as simply as that. And that led to that 0:14:34.560 --> 0:14:38.040 was eighteen. Now I'm forty two. Goodness, it's been half 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:40.920 two thirds of my life and there's not one day 0:14:40.920 --> 0:14:44.280 where I don't miss meditation, but where I'm not embracing 0:14:45.560 --> 0:14:50.480 the beauty and the joy of immersing yourself with your 0:14:50.520 --> 0:14:54.960 soul and your spirit, and yes, you know it's up 0:14:55.000 --> 0:14:57.840 and life is full of mountains and peaks and valleys. 0:14:57.880 --> 0:15:00.920 That's the beauty of who we are. And so when 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:03.520 you know to how we started at mental health. I 0:15:03.560 --> 0:15:07.240 lost my little sister to suicide six years ago and 0:15:08.920 --> 0:15:11.520 it was it is a tragedy. But then I realized 0:15:11.560 --> 0:15:15.360 we looked around and knows every forty second someone dies 0:15:15.400 --> 0:15:16.960 by suicide in the world. And I was like, oh, 0:15:17.000 --> 0:15:20.800 my goodness. I was not aware of this. And I 0:15:20.840 --> 0:15:24.800 only became aware of it because my dearest little sister 0:15:25.400 --> 0:15:29.760 died by mental health challenges and we were uncapable or 0:15:29.840 --> 0:15:33.240 the system, and the system were uncapable of giving very 0:15:33.280 --> 0:15:36.400 tangible tools. And I said, wow, here we are in 0:15:36.440 --> 0:15:40.000 the deepest blind spot of society, So how can we 0:15:40.080 --> 0:15:43.360 do something about it. There's something that just springs out 0:15:43.400 --> 0:15:46.800 of you and you want to create bridges with others 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:51.320 and that kind of is that compelling. The compulsion was 0:15:51.400 --> 0:15:54.000 to how can we create And of course I met 0:15:54.000 --> 0:15:56.920 doctor Deepak Chopra and that's just led to a very 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:01.480 simple collaboration where we're just expanding on bringing consciousness into 0:16:01.520 --> 0:16:07.520 mental health, into understanding from a more holistic place, what 0:16:07.560 --> 0:16:10.600 we can do to be in communities. We obviously use 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:15.080 technology because Deepak and Punacha Machaya, who's also a co founder, 0:16:15.120 --> 0:16:19.440 are absolutely involved in how to democratize access to mental 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:22.520 well being, spiritual wellbeing, all of these things that actually 0:16:23.000 --> 0:16:27.960 you know, matter that link the words together in our 0:16:28.080 --> 0:16:28.760 body mind. 0:16:28.920 --> 0:16:32.840 As an experience, Lake follow and subscribe to my Legacy 0:16:32.840 --> 0:16:35.800 podcast and importantly share this with someone who needs a 0:16:35.840 --> 0:16:40.520 little reminder of their strength today. 0:16:46.720 --> 0:16:48.800 Now back to my Legacy DOGG. 0:16:48.840 --> 0:16:51.359 Want to ask you mental health in the West, unfortunately, 0:16:51.400 --> 0:16:54.520 is often separated from physical health. Now, you have taught 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:57.600 millions of people the inter relationship and the integration of 0:16:57.640 --> 0:17:01.280 mental health and physical health and the connectedness of health. 0:17:02.040 --> 0:17:03.440 What do we need to do with how do we 0:17:03.480 --> 0:17:06.200 bring mental health and physical health together in a more 0:17:06.240 --> 0:17:09.040 substantive way. Yeah. 0:17:09.400 --> 0:17:15.679 You know when I speak to people at conferences and 0:17:15.680 --> 0:17:20.200 they're all talking about mental health and ask them please 0:17:20.240 --> 0:17:25.399 define the mind, and they can't. Most people, even experts 0:17:25.440 --> 0:17:30.040 in mental health, can't define the mind. What is the mind? 0:17:30.200 --> 0:17:35.360 Where is it? So let me give you a definition 0:17:35.560 --> 0:17:43.159 that originally came from this. Neuropsychiatrist Dan Siegel came up 0:17:43.160 --> 0:17:48.280 with this definition the mind is an embodied and relational 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:56.200 process that regulates the flow of energy and information. So 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:59.919 we say where is the mind? Most people point here, 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:03.800 But I can't have a mind in the absence of 0:18:03.920 --> 0:18:07.000 other minds. There's no such thing as a mind by itself. 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.360 So once you understand that, the mind is both embodied, 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.840 not just in the brain, in the whole body, because 0:18:13.880 --> 0:18:17.000 you know, you say, my heart is full of sadness, 0:18:17.720 --> 0:18:21.320 I have a gut feeling, I have a thought. That's 0:18:21.359 --> 0:18:25.560 all the mind. It's not in the brain. It's embodied, 0:18:26.320 --> 0:18:32.280 but it's also relational. Therefore, the mind has no location, right, 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:36.840 It's not here, it's not here, it's everywhere, and it's relational. 0:18:37.960 --> 0:18:42.880 Once you understand that, then you say, what's the body? 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:48.119 The body is also entangled with other bodies. You know, 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:52.760 you know, my body is made of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, 0:18:53.600 --> 0:18:58.040 which is recycled stardust, and every time you eat food, 0:18:58.280 --> 0:19:02.760 you're recycling start dust. So the body is also an 0:19:02.920 --> 0:19:08.280 entangled process in a deeper ecosystem of relationships, so is 0:19:08.280 --> 0:19:18.440 the mind. And the mind is sensations, images, feelings, and thoughts, imagination, desires, memories. 0:19:19.000 --> 0:19:23.840 The body is a perceptual activity, which is entangled with 0:19:23.960 --> 0:19:28.000 the mental activity. Okay, so I say, think of something 0:19:28.119 --> 0:19:32.480 that happened two weeks ago that caused you distress. Close 0:19:32.520 --> 0:19:34.399 your eyes and just think of something that caused you 0:19:34.680 --> 0:19:39.560 dress and immediately feel discomfort in the body. 0:19:39.840 --> 0:19:40.080 Okay. 0:19:40.200 --> 0:19:44.040 Then I say, okay, now switch, think of somebody that 0:19:44.160 --> 0:19:47.760 made you feel happy. You know, he bent on his knees, 0:19:47.840 --> 0:19:49.920 opened a bottle of champagne. I said, I'm in love 0:19:49.960 --> 0:19:56.160 with you. Will you marry me and not feel your body? Switch? Right? So, 0:19:56.400 --> 0:20:00.359 in these traditions, the Eastern Wisdom traditions, the body mind 0:20:00.440 --> 0:20:06.280 a unified process in a deeper domain called consciousness. So 0:20:06.400 --> 0:20:10.480 consciousness is both the body and mind. The body is 0:20:10.720 --> 0:20:16.919 perceptions and the mind is cognition or mental activity, and 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:21.560 they're inseparably one. They're not even connected, They're one thing. 0:20:22.640 --> 0:20:26.399 And in these traditions, therefore, the body is not considered 0:20:26.400 --> 0:20:31.160 a material entity. The Buddhists called the body conceptual body. 0:20:31.440 --> 0:20:35.919 The Indian loss Us call it the carmic body because 0:20:36.000 --> 0:20:40.800 everything that you have experienced or interpreted in the past 0:20:41.800 --> 0:20:44.520 is now present as what we call the body mind. 0:20:45.440 --> 0:20:49.240 So once you understand this that actually there comes another 0:20:49.560 --> 0:20:53.439 deeper dilemma because we call about mental health. In the 0:20:53.520 --> 0:20:56.920 deeper reality, there's no such thing because the mind is 0:20:57.000 --> 0:21:04.119 always dualistic, me and the other. It's you and me, okay, 0:21:04.160 --> 0:21:07.840 So already we are dualism. So the mind by definition 0:21:08.080 --> 0:21:13.840 hovers between pleasure and pain, happiness and sadness. It's never 0:21:14.040 --> 0:21:20.280 at peace. So saying peace of mind is an oxymoron. Okay, 0:21:20.359 --> 0:21:26.600 You cannot have a mind unless you have the dancing 0:21:26.800 --> 0:21:32.000 of opposites. And these opposites are not opposites or contradictions, 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:37.040 their complementarities. Because to experience hot, you will have to 0:21:37.080 --> 0:21:40.119 know what cold is. To experience pleasure, you have to 0:21:40.160 --> 0:21:44.040 know what pain is. So the mind is dover at peace. 0:21:44.640 --> 0:21:48.040 What is at peace is the awareness in which the 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:52.800 body mind is a process, and that we call the spirit. 0:21:53.600 --> 0:21:57.399 So there is only spiritual wellbeing. And if you have 0:21:57.480 --> 0:22:02.280 spiritual wellbeing, then your mental and physical well being as 0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:05.200 a byproduct. You don't even have to seek it. 0:22:05.800 --> 0:22:07.040 How does one do that. 0:22:08.280 --> 0:22:15.000 By going beyond the mind, So, which is in spiritual 0:22:15.080 --> 0:22:20.640 divisions called transcendence stillness. Roomy, we were talking. God's language 0:22:20.680 --> 0:22:26.840 is silence. Everything else is poor translation. So God's language 0:22:26.880 --> 0:22:29.399 is silent, Just shut up and you'll be at peace. 0:22:30.160 --> 0:22:36.200 I think we spend too much energy speaking about banal things. Meanwhile, 0:22:36.280 --> 0:22:40.240 galaxies are tumbling across the cosmic horizon faster than the 0:22:40.280 --> 0:22:43.640 speed of light. But people get agitated, you know, Red 0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:48.640 Sox or whatever. You know, what was the other team 0:22:48.800 --> 0:22:53.040 or you know this team or that team? Well, yeah, whatever, 0:22:53.400 --> 0:22:58.199 So we waste our time getting it's entertaining, but ultimately 0:22:59.440 --> 0:23:03.080 there's only spiritual well being, you know. So even when 0:23:03.119 --> 0:23:06.840 you're in the midst of a turbulent mind, you know, 0:23:06.880 --> 0:23:09.840 people say you should be happy all the time. Well 0:23:10.119 --> 0:23:13.440 that's very artificial. A happy mind all the time is 0:23:13.480 --> 0:23:16.919 a turbulent mind. It's an exhausting mind, just like a 0:23:16.960 --> 0:23:22.080 negative mind is also exhausting. But a peaceful mind is 0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:25.320 not the mind, it's the spirit. So every time you 0:23:25.359 --> 0:23:29.800 feel agitated, you go back to yourself. But we ignore 0:23:29.880 --> 0:23:32.320 the spirits. It's like a fish and water looking for 0:23:32.400 --> 0:23:37.800 water because where it is water. Okay, It's like the 0:23:37.880 --> 0:23:42.040 fish is made of water. The fish is made of 0:23:42.200 --> 0:23:46.680 the ocean, but it doesn't know that. Okay, we are 0:23:46.760 --> 0:23:51.720 made of the spirit, but we ignore it. For the mind, 0:23:51.920 --> 0:23:56.159 the body, and all our conversations. 0:23:56.800 --> 0:24:00.440 Like follow and subscribe to my Legacy podcast. Back in 0:24:00.480 --> 0:24:12.200 a moment, Now back to my Legacy depak. 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:15.800 You've said that the world is on fire and so 0:24:15.920 --> 0:24:18.560 are we, and that the chaos around us is a 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:23.399 reflection of our own interstate. How do we as individuals 0:24:24.119 --> 0:24:29.000 begin to create peace within ourselves so we can create 0:24:29.200 --> 0:24:30.840 peace in the world. 0:24:31.320 --> 0:24:36.159 Mahutbanghani said, the only way to change the world is 0:24:36.240 --> 0:24:39.560 to be the change yourself. So you have to be 0:24:39.680 --> 0:24:42.840 the change you want to see in the world. If 0:24:42.880 --> 0:24:46.760 you want peace in the world, start with your own peace. 0:24:47.840 --> 0:24:52.560 If you want love, then start giving love. Love can 0:24:52.680 --> 0:24:56.400 only be shared by those who know how to give 0:24:56.440 --> 0:25:01.000 and receive love. Peace can only be created by those 0:25:01.040 --> 0:25:05.280 who are peaceful, not by peace activists, but those who 0:25:05.359 --> 0:25:08.560 are at peace. And if you have a critical mass 0:25:08.600 --> 0:25:13.160 of people who want to be the change they want 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.280 to see in the world, who are the change, a 0:25:15.359 --> 0:25:20.680 critical mass that would translate into peace in the world. 0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:25.680 But you need that critical mass right now. The critical 0:25:25.720 --> 0:25:30.520 mass that we have is the recycling of trauma. So 0:25:30.600 --> 0:25:33.800 when we say and the history of humanity is in 0:25:33.840 --> 0:25:37.560 a way the history of trauma. Ever since the Middle Ages, 0:25:38.640 --> 0:25:43.199 we recycle trauma, and the memory of trauma is anger. 0:25:44.840 --> 0:25:50.040 The desire to get even is hostility. Blaming yourself is 0:25:50.080 --> 0:25:53.879 guilt and shame. And then the depletion of energy that 0:25:53.960 --> 0:25:57.399 happens as a result is called depression, which is the 0:25:57.480 --> 0:26:02.200 number one pandemic recycling of trauma. So if we want 0:26:02.240 --> 0:26:05.640 to change the world, we have to stop recycling trauma. 0:26:05.960 --> 0:26:09.840 And that can only come about if we are at 0:26:09.880 --> 0:26:14.639 peace with ourselves. So, as I've been said, forever peace 0:26:14.640 --> 0:26:21.480 begins with us, with ourselves. It's not happening because of 0:26:21.600 --> 0:26:31.159 the melodrama of social media, news, networks, entertainment where violence 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:36.840 is romanticized. You know, World War One, people who want 0:26:37.400 --> 0:26:41.680 the war they get medals as heroes. The other side 0:26:42.760 --> 0:26:47.240 war criminals. So you know who's a war criminal, who's 0:26:47.240 --> 0:26:52.239 a war hero? What is war? It's murder, you know 0:26:52.280 --> 0:26:54.720 when you look at the history. And I hate to 0:26:54.760 --> 0:26:58.760 be a political since now we have permissioned to be 0:26:58.800 --> 0:27:06.800 a political But colonialism, slave trade and piracy went together. 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:11.159 You know, slave trade and colonialism and piracy are the 0:27:11.240 --> 0:27:16.359 same thing, but they were done under a uniform with medals. 0:27:17.160 --> 0:27:21.960 Long live the King, live the monarch. That has to stop. 0:27:22.040 --> 0:27:26.600 We have to stop glorifying trauma. Even now star wars, 0:27:27.600 --> 0:27:31.560 you know, the war against cancer, the war against drug. 0:27:31.600 --> 0:27:36.359