Speaker 1: If you want peace in the world, start with your
Speaker 1: own peace. But right now that we have is the
Speaker 1: recycling of trauma, and the memory of trauma is anger.
Speaker 1: The desire to get even is hostility. Blaming yourself is
Speaker 1: guilt and shame. And then the depletion of energy that
Speaker 1: happens as a result is called depression, which is the
Speaker 1: number one pandemic recycling of trauma. So if we want
Speaker 1: to change the world, we have to stop recycling trauma.
Speaker 2: Today, we're bringing you a conversation straight from the Lake
Speaker 2: Nana Impact form at the KPMG's Learning an Innovation Center's
Speaker 2: Lake House in Orlando's Lake Nana Community, a place where
Speaker 2: the brightest minds come together to shape the future of health,
Speaker 2: wellness and medical innovation. This is my legacy, host it
Speaker 2: by me Andrea Waters King alongside my husband Martin Luther
Speaker 2: King the Third and our good friends Mark and Craig Kilberger.
Speaker 2: Let's dive in.
Speaker 3: Before we begin today's episode, we want to let our
Speaker 3: listeners and viewers know that we will be discussing issues
Speaker 3: related to violence, suicide, and mental health. Some of the
Speaker 3: topics may be distressing if you or someone you know
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Speaker 3: Welcome to My Legacy, where we explore what it means
Speaker 3: to create a living legacy. Today, we're honored to sit
Speaker 3: down with two extraordinary individuals who have dedicated their lives
Speaker 3: to healing, mental health, and transformation. Chopra is the pioneering
Speaker 3: doctor whose teachings on mindfulness and consciousness have impacted millions.
Speaker 3: He's the founder of the Chopra Foundation. He's written over
Speaker 3: ninety five books, including multiple New York Times bestsellers. Gabriella
Speaker 3: Wright is an actress and the co founder of the
Speaker 3: Never Alone Initiative, a movement dedicated to mental well being
Speaker 3: and suicide prevention. Through dynamic storytelling and powerful advocacy, She's
Speaker 3: helping people find hope and healing. Deepak, you've known Gabriella
Speaker 3: for a while. What about her journey inspired you to
Speaker 3: want to collaborate with her.
Speaker 1: Well, it's a long story, but I suspect it's a
Speaker 1: good one.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: The most important thing is that Gabriella, she had a
Speaker 1: traumatic experience during her childhood and she took that and
Speaker 1: reframed that trauma into an opportunity to help other people.
Speaker 1: And so she started this movement called Never Alone, which
Speaker 1: is a global forum for people getting together with four
Speaker 1: ideas attention, affection, appreciation, and acceptance. And the hope is
Speaker 1: to create global online and offline communities where people take
Speaker 1: the responsibility for healing each other emotionally and spiritually.
Speaker 5: So attention which means deep listening, affection, deep caring and love, Compassion, appreciation,
Speaker 5: noticing that everyone is a unique history of the universe.
Speaker 1: And acceptance, accepting everybody just as they are radically. That's
Speaker 1: the initiative and we're very proud to associate with her
Speaker 1: and that thank you.
Speaker 3: Deepakak.
Speaker 4: You started your journey in India where you were raised
Speaker 4: in a family that was deeply rooted both in medicine
Speaker 4: and in healing in spirituality. When you go back and
Speaker 4: help us understand some of those early moments that helped
Speaker 4: shape who you are.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my father was a military doctor in the British Army.
Speaker 1: He was a pioneer in his own way. He was
Speaker 1: the first person to describe what we now call high
Speaker 1: altitude heart failure when the Indian and Chinese army, who
Speaker 1: were at war, he was in Tibet doing cardia cat
Speaker 1: and discovering a new disease. He was a fellow of
Speaker 1: the Royal College. He was for a time a physician
Speaker 1: to the Queen who just passed away, and he was
Speaker 1: very famous actually, But he was a hardcore scientist and
Speaker 1: my mother was the extreme opposite. She was totally immersed,
Speaker 1: I would say, in spiritual longing more than anything else.
Speaker 1: She read spiritual poetry to us, including the poems of Roomy.
Speaker 1: But she would spend all day singing hymns, spiritual hymns,
Speaker 1: but they're all in the former stories, mythical stories. And
Speaker 1: before we went to sleep at night, she would start
Speaker 1: with a great story and then she would stop at
Speaker 1: what is now called a cliffhanger, and then she would say,
Speaker 1: I want you to dream up the rest of the
Speaker 1: story for the night and make it a happy ending,
Speaker 1: and make sure it's a love story, because if it's
Speaker 1: not a love story, it's not a good story. Me
Speaker 1: and my little brother learned how to actually take the
Speaker 1: moment of crisis in the story to make it a
Speaker 1: happy ending and make it a love story no matter
Speaker 1: how you know, what was everything was wrong when to stop,
Speaker 1: But in the morning, everything was right when we woke up.
Speaker 2: That can be taken into the world.
Speaker 1: Yeah, now, so you know, we learned how to reframe
Speaker 1: every adversity as a happy ending and a love story.
Speaker 2: What's your favorite Roomy? Do you have a favorite Roomy
Speaker 2: quote or passage from Roomy?
Speaker 1: I have many. One of my favorites is if you're
Speaker 1: not naked by now, go back to sleep, And that's
Speaker 1: a many levels naked of spirit. When you're totally vulnerable,
Speaker 1: then you surrender to the divine. Of course, Roomy is
Speaker 1: very ecstatic, so you know, it's always full of the
Speaker 1: intoxication of love. Yes, in one way or another. So
Speaker 1: you're not just a drop in the ocean. You're also
Speaker 1: the ocean in the drop. Yes, stop being small, You're
Speaker 1: the universe in ecstatic motion.
Speaker 2: On my phone, I get Roomy updates once every three
Speaker 2: hours like that. Throughout the day.
Speaker 1: It's it's a great way to feel intoxicated with love.
Speaker 6: It is Gabrielle, who are some of the most influential
Speaker 6: people in your childhood and what are some of the
Speaker 6: biggest lessons they passed on down to you.
Speaker 7: I would start probably with my father. I mean, I know,
Speaker 7: it's because I always used to I realized very young
Speaker 7: that I was very lucky to have my father be
Speaker 7: my father. Does that make sense, Like just very very lucky,
Speaker 7: especially when I was at school and I realized what
Speaker 7: was going on in other people's homes. And so my
Speaker 7: father is an artist. He was one of the first
Speaker 7: to do video art in the sixties, so performance art,
Speaker 7: huge paintings, sculptures, and he always kept our imagination alive
Speaker 7: actually very much like your mother. And so because he
Speaker 7: would tell us stories at night, and he would make
Speaker 7: sure that the three sisters were in the story. So
Speaker 7: we were in the story. We were traveling through a
Speaker 7: magical mirror every night and going into other worlds where
Speaker 7: we were saving people basically, and there were dragons and
Speaker 7: giant tomatoes and all of these fantastical things. By the way,
Speaker 7: way before Harry Potter. So just letting you know, yes,
Speaker 7: this is way like way before Harry Potter. The English
Speaker 7: have something in common. We love dark humor and fantastical imaginations,
Speaker 7: probably because the weather is really bad in England, but
Speaker 7: we have that. And so he has been very instrumental
Speaker 7: in my life. And then when I looked at other figures,
Speaker 7: just because when I was growing up, Sir David Attenborough
Speaker 7: as well. So David Attenborough was someone very influential in
Speaker 7: my life. I've still never met him, but the fact
Speaker 7: his reminiscent voice, his understand and awe of nature. And
Speaker 7: I was brought up in London, so yes we would
Speaker 7: go on holiday to different places, but never in the
Speaker 7: exotic places that so David Adenburgh would show. And so
Speaker 7: that always gave me a lot of freedom in my
Speaker 7: thoughts actually, but I didn't know it was that at
Speaker 7: the time. So when I say childhood, probably till you
Speaker 7: know fifteen, and then of course Shakespeare, you know the
Speaker 7: you know, the fight for freedom of thought, speech, place,
Speaker 7: Gandhi as well. But these were all things that came
Speaker 7: with education. I suppose later on my roles models changed
Speaker 7: and evolved, but those were the keys of how I
Speaker 7: started being falling in love with life. Despite all, like
Speaker 7: you said earlier, despite challenges.
Speaker 2: Growing up in London, did you fill a connection with
Speaker 2: Gandhi in India?
Speaker 7: You know, my mother is French, Portuguese Mauritian and I Mauritian.
Speaker 7: We have Indian descent and creole, so we're a big mix.
Speaker 7: Not particularly when I was growing up. My mother was
Speaker 7: very much involved in science. She's a marine biologist, so
Speaker 7: we didn't have we had a cultural mix, but everything
Speaker 7: was integrated. Like, for example, when you go to school
Speaker 7: in London, there's something quite extraordinary is that every culture
Speaker 7: is mixed. So you have a Bangladeshi teacher, you'd have
Speaker 7: a Pakistani lunch day, You'll have very unfortunately disgusting custard
Speaker 7: English custard for desert, you know, but everything is, you know,
Speaker 7: very culturally mixed. And I haven't seen that in any
Speaker 7: other country to be honest to this day. So I
Speaker 7: was lucky to have that. So everything was just integrated.
Speaker 7: I suppose my first understanding of India was when actually
Speaker 7: something happened to me that pushed me into an understanding
Speaker 7: beyond what I was act experiencing as suffering, like and
Speaker 7: I was looking for something through a solution where is
Speaker 7: the root of my suffering. And that's when things came
Speaker 7: to me the Gandhi teachings. Other than just learning at school,
Speaker 7: I'm talking about outside of school, classic school. I'm talking
Speaker 7: about where did the wonderment comes from? You know, the
Speaker 7: desire to know more? And that came to me after
Speaker 7: I experienced physical abuse and rape when I was eighteen.
Speaker 7: So I was pushed, like my soul was pushed to
Speaker 7: a yearn for that, and in a good way, you know,
Speaker 7: I wanted to be thrown into the abyss is because
Speaker 7: we have to find different ways. We have to get
Speaker 7: out of our structural understanding of life and what we
Speaker 7: think life is and also what we think we are,
Speaker 7: you know, out of the labels, right, the labels. So yeah,
Speaker 7: that's how I would say, say the spiritual journey begun.
Speaker 3: To understand the post traumatic growth, we have to go back.
Speaker 4: To the trauma.
Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and deep hat you indicated it a moment
Speaker 3: ago where you reference that there was this moment that
Speaker 3: happened in your life that was and it sounds like
Speaker 3: a number of moments that were deeply pivotal.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, and if.
Speaker 3: You could and if you feel comfortable, go to those
Speaker 3: moments to help us understand who you are and also
Speaker 3: to speak to us a little bit. But this extraordinary
Speaker 3: work you now do on mental health, and I understand
Speaker 3: part of that's inspired by Paulette.
Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, yes, So I suppose you know we are
Speaker 7: a moving landscape and to echo to doctor Deepak Chopra's teachings,
Speaker 7: and what we do is we unravel our conditioning. And
Speaker 7: that's important because when we experienced trauma like I did,
Speaker 7: like I said earlier, a sudden rape and it hurls
Speaker 7: you into self reflection and experiencing physical pain, but we
Speaker 7: realized that that very quickly becomes mental pain. So all
Speaker 7: of a sudden, it becomes something that is around you
Speaker 7: that you're constantly involved in, and it kind of blurs
Speaker 7: your perception of reality of what truth is. Everything is blurry.
Speaker 7: Everything leads to mental confusion, physical confusion, and you have
Speaker 7: no zest for life anymore. And the fact of if
Speaker 7: you can't go, if you don't have the tools to
Speaker 7: go back to spirit or quote unquote the blank canvas
Speaker 7: of who you truly are, then all you see is
Speaker 7: a landscape that is tainted with darker colors of your perception.
Speaker 7: And that for me, I did not want to live.
Speaker 7: So that was a choice I made. I said, you
Speaker 7: know what, thanks to my childhood, I've experienced wonder and
Speaker 7: awe and the imagination. I want to go to go
Speaker 7: back to that. So I was lucky to have that
Speaker 7: foundational understanding of what is possible. So that was the
Speaker 7: very lucky. But I had to get back there. So
Speaker 7: you have to create a bridge, you have to find
Speaker 7: a system, You have to ask questions. And I definitely
Speaker 7: didn't want to go down a numbing of emotions. But
Speaker 7: in my case, I was more interested to go back
Speaker 7: to the route and up route the suffering, and that
Speaker 7: led me to wisdom traditions. One thing synchronicity. You ask
Speaker 7: the question. You meet a stranger all of a sudden
Speaker 7: he's meditating in a park, and there I am meditating,
Speaker 7: not knowing what meditation was, but by imitating posture, it
Speaker 7: starts as simply as that. And that led to that
Speaker 7: was eighteen. Now I'm forty two. Goodness, it's been half
Speaker 7: two thirds of my life and there's not one day
Speaker 7: where I don't miss meditation, but where I'm not embracing
Speaker 7: the beauty and the joy of immersing yourself with your
Speaker 7: soul and your spirit, and yes, you know it's up
Speaker 7: and life is full of mountains and peaks and valleys.
Speaker 7: That's the beauty of who we are. And so when
Speaker 7: you know to how we started at mental health. I
Speaker 7: lost my little sister to suicide six years ago and
Speaker 7: it was it is a tragedy. But then I realized
Speaker 7: we looked around and knows every forty second someone dies
Speaker 7: by suicide in the world. And I was like, oh,
Speaker 7: my goodness. I was not aware of this. And I
Speaker 7: only became aware of it because my dearest little sister
Speaker 7: died by mental health challenges and we were uncapable or
Speaker 7: the system, and the system were uncapable of giving very
Speaker 7: tangible tools. And I said, wow, here we are in
Speaker 7: the deepest blind spot of society, So how can we
Speaker 7: do something about it. There's something that just springs out
Speaker 7: of you and you want to create bridges with others
Speaker 7: and that kind of is that compelling. The compulsion was
Speaker 7: to how can we create And of course I met
Speaker 7: doctor Deepak Chopra and that's just led to a very
Speaker 7: simple collaboration where we're just expanding on bringing consciousness into
Speaker 7: mental health, into understanding from a more holistic place, what
Speaker 7: we can do to be in communities. We obviously use
Speaker 7: technology because Deepak and Punacha Machaya, who's also a co founder,
Speaker 7: are absolutely involved in how to democratize access to mental
Speaker 7: well being, spiritual wellbeing, all of these things that actually
Speaker 7: you know, matter that link the words together in our
Speaker 7: body mind.
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Speaker 4: Want to ask you mental health in the West, unfortunately,
Speaker 4: is often separated from physical health. Now, you have taught
Speaker 4: millions of people the inter relationship and the integration of
Speaker 4: mental health and physical health and the connectedness of health.
Speaker 4: What do we need to do with how do we
Speaker 4: bring mental health and physical health together in a more
Speaker 4: substantive way. Yeah.
Speaker 1: You know when I speak to people at conferences and
Speaker 1: they're all talking about mental health and ask them please
Speaker 1: define the mind, and they can't. Most people, even experts
Speaker 1: in mental health, can't define the mind. What is the mind?
Speaker 1: Where is it? So let me give you a definition
Speaker 1: that originally came from this. Neuropsychiatrist Dan Siegel came up
Speaker 1: with this definition the mind is an embodied and relational
Speaker 1: process that regulates the flow of energy and information. So
Speaker 1: we say where is the mind? Most people point here,
Speaker 1: But I can't have a mind in the absence of
Speaker 1: other minds. There's no such thing as a mind by itself.
Speaker 1: So once you understand that, the mind is both embodied,
Speaker 1: not just in the brain, in the whole body, because
Speaker 1: you know, you say, my heart is full of sadness,
Speaker 1: I have a gut feeling, I have a thought. That's
Speaker 1: all the mind. It's not in the brain. It's embodied,
Speaker 1: but it's also relational. Therefore, the mind has no location, right,
Speaker 1: It's not here, it's not here, it's everywhere, and it's relational.
Speaker 1: Once you understand that, then you say, what's the body?
Speaker 1: The body is also entangled with other bodies. You know,
Speaker 1: you know, my body is made of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen,
Speaker 1: which is recycled stardust, and every time you eat food,
Speaker 1: you're recycling start dust. So the body is also an
Speaker 1: entangled process in a deeper ecosystem of relationships, so is
Speaker 1: the mind. And the mind is sensations, images, feelings, and thoughts, imagination, desires, memories.
Speaker 1: The body is a perceptual activity, which is entangled with
Speaker 1: the mental activity. Okay, so I say, think of something
Speaker 1: that happened two weeks ago that caused you distress. Close
Speaker 1: your eyes and just think of something that caused you
Speaker 1: dress and immediately feel discomfort in the body.
Speaker 7: Okay.
Speaker 1: Then I say, okay, now switch, think of somebody that
Speaker 1: made you feel happy. You know, he bent on his knees,
Speaker 1: opened a bottle of champagne. I said, I'm in love
Speaker 1: with you. Will you marry me and not feel your body? Switch? Right? So,
Speaker 1: in these traditions, the Eastern Wisdom traditions, the body mind
Speaker 1: a unified process in a deeper domain called consciousness. So
Speaker 1: consciousness is both the body and mind. The body is
Speaker 1: perceptions and the mind is cognition or mental activity, and
Speaker 1: they're inseparably one. They're not even connected, They're one thing.
Speaker 1: And in these traditions, therefore, the body is not considered
Speaker 1: a material entity. The Buddhists called the body conceptual body.
Speaker 1: The Indian loss Us call it the carmic body because
Speaker 1: everything that you have experienced or interpreted in the past
Speaker 1: is now present as what we call the body mind.
Speaker 1: So once you understand this that actually there comes another
Speaker 1: deeper dilemma because we call about mental health. In the
Speaker 1: deeper reality, there's no such thing because the mind is
Speaker 1: always dualistic, me and the other. It's you and me, okay,
Speaker 1: So already we are dualism. So the mind by definition
Speaker 1: hovers between pleasure and pain, happiness and sadness. It's never
Speaker 1: at peace. So saying peace of mind is an oxymoron. Okay,
Speaker 1: You cannot have a mind unless you have the dancing
Speaker 1: of opposites. And these opposites are not opposites or contradictions,
Speaker 1: their complementarities. Because to experience hot, you will have to
Speaker 1: know what cold is. To experience pleasure, you have to
Speaker 1: know what pain is. So the mind is dover at peace.
Speaker 1: What is at peace is the awareness in which the
Speaker 1: body mind is a process, and that we call the spirit.
Speaker 1: So there is only spiritual wellbeing. And if you have
Speaker 1: spiritual wellbeing, then your mental and physical well being as
Speaker 1: a byproduct. You don't even have to seek it.
Speaker 2: How does one do that.
Speaker 1: By going beyond the mind, So, which is in spiritual
Speaker 1: divisions called transcendence stillness. Roomy, we were talking. God's language
Speaker 1: is silence. Everything else is poor translation. So God's language
Speaker 1: is silent, Just shut up and you'll be at peace.
Speaker 1: I think we spend too much energy speaking about banal things. Meanwhile,
Speaker 1: galaxies are tumbling across the cosmic horizon faster than the
Speaker 1: speed of light. But people get agitated, you know, Red
Speaker 1: Sox or whatever. You know, what was the other team
Speaker 1: or you know this team or that team? Well, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 1: So we waste our time getting it's entertaining, but ultimately
Speaker 1: there's only spiritual well being, you know. So even when
Speaker 1: you're in the midst of a turbulent mind, you know,
Speaker 1: people say you should be happy all the time. Well
Speaker 1: that's very artificial. A happy mind all the time is
Speaker 1: a turbulent mind. It's an exhausting mind, just like a
Speaker 1: negative mind is also exhausting. But a peaceful mind is
Speaker 1: not the mind, it's the spirit. So every time you
Speaker 1: feel agitated, you go back to yourself. But we ignore
Speaker 1: the spirits. It's like a fish and water looking for
Speaker 1: water because where it is water. Okay, It's like the
Speaker 1: fish is made of water. The fish is made of
Speaker 1: the ocean, but it doesn't know that. Okay, we are
Speaker 1: made of the spirit, but we ignore it. For the mind,
Speaker 1: the body, and all our conversations.
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Speaker 6: You've said that the world is on fire and so
Speaker 6: are we, and that the chaos around us is a
Speaker 6: reflection of our own interstate. How do we as individuals
Speaker 6: begin to create peace within ourselves so we can create
Speaker 6: peace in the world.
Speaker 1: Mahutbanghani said, the only way to change the world is
Speaker 1: to be the change yourself. So you have to be
Speaker 1: the change you want to see in the world. If
Speaker 1: you want peace in the world, start with your own peace.
Speaker 1: If you want love, then start giving love. Love can
Speaker 1: only be shared by those who know how to give
Speaker 1: and receive love. Peace can only be created by those
Speaker 1: who are peaceful, not by peace activists, but those who
Speaker 1: are at peace. And if you have a critical mass
Speaker 1: of people who want to be the change they want
Speaker 1: to see in the world, who are the change, a
Speaker 1: critical mass that would translate into peace in the world.
Speaker 1: But you need that critical mass right now. The critical
Speaker 1: mass that we have is the recycling of trauma. So
Speaker 1: when we say and the history of humanity is in
Speaker 1: a way the history of trauma. Ever since the Middle Ages,
Speaker 1: we recycle trauma, and the memory of trauma is anger.
Speaker 1: The desire to get even is hostility. Blaming yourself is
Speaker 1: guilt and shame. And then the depletion of energy that
Speaker 1: happens as a result is called depression, which is the
Speaker 1: number one pandemic recycling of trauma. So if we want
Speaker 1: to change the world, we have to stop recycling trauma.
Speaker 1: And that can only come about if we are at
Speaker 1: peace with ourselves. So, as I've been said, forever peace
Speaker 1: begins with us, with ourselves. It's not happening because of
Speaker 1: the melodrama of social media, news, networks, entertainment where violence
Speaker 1: is romanticized. You know, World War One, people who want
Speaker 1: the war they get medals as heroes. The other side
Speaker 1: war criminals. So you know who's a war criminal, who's
Speaker 1: a war hero? What is war? It's murder, you know
Speaker 1: when you look at the history. And I hate to
Speaker 1: be a political since now we have permissioned to be
Speaker 1: a political But colonialism, slave trade and piracy went together.
Speaker 1: You know, slave trade and colonialism and piracy are the
Speaker 1: same thing, but they were done under a uniform with medals.
Speaker 1: Long live the King, live the monarch. That has to stop.
Speaker 1: We have to stop glorifying trauma. Even now star wars,
Speaker 1: you know, the war against cancer, the war against drug.
Speaker 1: Everything is a war or metaphorsed themselves. We're not talking
Speaker 1: about creative solutions. We're talking about war. You know, I
Speaker 1: beat the cancer, I got rid of the cancer. No,
Speaker 1: there's a creative way to solve every problem. And that
Speaker 1: creativity comes from deep within our soul, you know, so
Speaker 1: our soul. When we refer to God, we say the creator. Right,
Speaker 1: So every act of creativity is a divine act. And
Speaker 1: that's not an algorithm, okay, that is that is the spirit.
Speaker 1: That's the only way.
Speaker 2: We come from a place of power, being for something
Speaker 2: rather than against, you know, being for health rather than
Speaker 2: being But I also know that we have to before
Speaker 2: we leave our house every day, put on peace, you know,
Speaker 2: put on love you know, whether you know it's through meditation,
Speaker 2: you know, if it's through as your you know, blessing
Speaker 2: your water as you eat, you know, playing sounds that
Speaker 2: uplift you and tune you in before you even tune out.
Speaker 2: So that's an incredibly important part of my day and
Speaker 2: how we start our day in our home. What are
Speaker 2: some rituals for you, Gabriella that that you, that ground you,
Speaker 2: and that set you, set you a glow on your
Speaker 2: on your daily.
Speaker 7: Oh god. I use everything as a tool, you know.
Speaker 7: I literally it's like I use my environment to amplify
Speaker 7: my practice. Does that make sense? So that's the first
Speaker 7: of all, it's having that awareness. So if because I
Speaker 7: travel a lot, so everything becomes my practice. The one
Speaker 7: practice that I do before metadate, I take a shower
Speaker 7: and obviously, I mean, it's good to say a power
Speaker 7: but at the water, I see it cleansing the emotions.
Speaker 2: He's doing that because that was I didn't say that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but that is absolutely one of the things exactly because
Speaker 2: we are.
Speaker 7: So emotional these days because of so many things going
Speaker 7: on extraordinary times. So it's so I like, and I
Speaker 7: visualize that all of it's actually a Tibetan practice. If
Speaker 7: we were to take it a little further, where we
Speaker 7: see a gray gray matter just kind of go leave
Speaker 7: our bodies, not only through our breath, but from a
Speaker 7: physical perspective, go down the drain and it's recycled back
Speaker 7: into you know, this extra ordinary planet and ether. So
Speaker 7: that's you know, But then of course I have my meditation.
Speaker 7: But I and that's the sitting meditation. But when I'm
Speaker 7: walking out the door, I'm going I have my inner mantras.
Speaker 7: So I'm hearing my mantra in every sound around me.
Speaker 7: So it's a private, sacred practice. So yes, sometimes I
Speaker 7: have longer times. I'm not. Deepak has leisurely hours of
Speaker 7: meditation before he even starts the day. I sometimes I
Speaker 7: only get thirty minutes. Sometimes I get forty five. Sometimes
Speaker 7: I only get ten. You know, different ages, different times,
Speaker 7: different demands of life. But I get it, and then
Speaker 7: I carry the mantra with me into the day, and
Speaker 7: I always have that thing that Deepak said. It's like
Speaker 7: you go back to what is observing the experience, being
Speaker 7: the observer, not only but actually becoming the space that
Speaker 7: you're in and understanding that we're all all in, each
Speaker 7: and every one of us. So I'm actively observing constantly.
Speaker 7: If I'm feeling a little distressed after, I'll go and
Speaker 7: wash my hands. You know, I'm using water a lot
Speaker 7: and the elements grounding myself. Obviously, can't take my shoes
Speaker 7: off in New York too much and ground myself in
Speaker 7: some lovely dog shit. But I don't do that. But
Speaker 7: I imagine I visualize, you know, so using what I
Speaker 7: have because you have to become a spiritual ninja. You know,
Speaker 7: you have to become a spiritual ninja. There's rules and regulations,
Speaker 7: but no, you adapt it because we are the landscape.
Speaker 7: From a consciousness perspective, we are everything deep packing.
Speaker 3: Gabriella, thank you for sharing your wisdom, your thought, your
Speaker 3: consciousness and your love with us today. Part of the
Speaker 3: show is we always invite our listeners and viewers to
Speaker 3: incorporate into the daily practice ways that they can deepen
Speaker 3: their legacy. And so I'm so grateful to the two
Speaker 3: of you. When you talk about the attention, the affection,
Speaker 3: the appreciation and the acceptance, I what beautiful forwards. And
Speaker 3: I hope people share that out on social media and
Speaker 3: amplify that out the pack. You talked about the history
Speaker 3: of humanity is the recycling of trauma, and we have
Speaker 3: to consciously stop stop that recycling.
Speaker 1: Stop recycling drama in your life with everyone that you meet.
Speaker 3: Powerful and Gabriella, you gave us some simple practices. From
Speaker 3: that cleansing of that water to that grounding of our feet,
Speaker 3: to the glove and the kindness and the seeing each
Speaker 3: other is fundamentally connected, always so Deepak and Gabriella, We're
Speaker 3: grateful for you joining us today from the Lake Nona
Speaker 3: Impact Forum at KPMG's Lake House in Orlando's Lake Nona community,
Speaker 3: and thank you for living your legacy every day.
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