1 00:00:04,400 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: If you want peace in the world, start with your 2 00:00:07,200 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: own peace. But right now that we have is the 3 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: recycling of trauma, and the memory of trauma is anger. 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:20,079 Speaker 1: The desire to get even is hostility. Blaming yourself is 5 00:00:20,160 --> 00:00:23,880 Speaker 1: guilt and shame. And then the depletion of energy that 6 00:00:24,000 --> 00:00:27,479 Speaker 1: happens as a result is called depression, which is the 7 00:00:27,560 --> 00:00:31,520 Speaker 1: number one pandemic recycling of trauma. So if we want 8 00:00:31,560 --> 00:00:34,919 Speaker 1: to change the world, we have to stop recycling trauma. 9 00:00:36,280 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 2: Today, we're bringing you a conversation straight from the Lake 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 2: Nana Impact form at the KPMG's Learning an Innovation Center's 11 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:47,519 Speaker 2: Lake House in Orlando's Lake Nana Community, a place where 12 00:00:47,560 --> 00:00:50,479 Speaker 2: the brightest minds come together to shape the future of health, 13 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:55,640 Speaker 2: wellness and medical innovation. This is my legacy, host it 14 00:00:55,680 --> 00:00:59,640 Speaker 2: by me Andrea Waters King alongside my husband Martin Luther 15 00:00:59,720 --> 00:01:03,080 Speaker 2: King the Third and our good friends Mark and Craig Kilberger. 16 00:01:03,520 --> 00:01:04,319 Speaker 2: Let's dive in. 17 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 3: Before we begin today's episode, we want to let our 18 00:01:07,720 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 3: listeners and viewers know that we will be discussing issues 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 3: related to violence, suicide, and mental health. Some of the 20 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,039 Speaker 3: topics may be distressing if you or someone you know 21 00:01:17,120 --> 00:01:22,120 Speaker 3: is struggling. We encourage you to seek professional support. Resources 22 00:01:22,360 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 3: like the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline dial nine eight eight 23 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:31,679 Speaker 3: or the Crisis Text hotline text home to seven four 24 00:01:32,200 --> 00:01:35,360 Speaker 3: one seven four to one are available twenty four to seven. 25 00:01:35,760 --> 00:01:38,840 Speaker 3: Please know that this conversation is for information purposes only 26 00:01:38,880 --> 00:01:42,319 Speaker 3: and does not constitute medical advice. Your well being is 27 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 3: critically important. Please listen at your own pace, and please 28 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 3: don't hesitate to take breaks or skip ahead of needed 29 00:01:50,440 --> 00:01:52,760 Speaker 3: Welcome to My Legacy, where we explore what it means 30 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 3: to create a living legacy. Today, we're honored to sit 31 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 3: down with two extraordinary individuals who have dedicated their lives 32 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 3: to healing, mental health, and transformation. Chopra is the pioneering 33 00:02:04,560 --> 00:02:08,320 Speaker 3: doctor whose teachings on mindfulness and consciousness have impacted millions. 34 00:02:08,639 --> 00:02:11,720 Speaker 3: He's the founder of the Chopra Foundation. He's written over 35 00:02:11,840 --> 00:02:16,440 Speaker 3: ninety five books, including multiple New York Times bestsellers. Gabriella 36 00:02:16,480 --> 00:02:19,160 Speaker 3: Wright is an actress and the co founder of the 37 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:22,800 Speaker 3: Never Alone Initiative, a movement dedicated to mental well being 38 00:02:22,919 --> 00:02:27,720 Speaker 3: and suicide prevention. Through dynamic storytelling and powerful advocacy, She's 39 00:02:27,800 --> 00:02:32,400 Speaker 3: helping people find hope and healing. Deepak, you've known Gabriella 40 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,240 Speaker 3: for a while. What about her journey inspired you to 41 00:02:36,280 --> 00:02:37,400 Speaker 3: want to collaborate with her. 42 00:02:37,680 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: Well, it's a long story, but I suspect it's a 43 00:02:42,120 --> 00:02:42,440 Speaker 1: good one. 44 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 4: Yeah. 45 00:02:43,520 --> 00:02:46,880 Speaker 1: The most important thing is that Gabriella, she had a 46 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 1: traumatic experience during her childhood and she took that and 47 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 1: reframed that trauma into an opportunity to help other people. 48 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:02,320 Speaker 1: And so she started this movement called Never Alone, which 49 00:03:02,360 --> 00:03:08,480 Speaker 1: is a global forum for people getting together with four 50 00:03:08,560 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: ideas attention, affection, appreciation, and acceptance. And the hope is 51 00:03:14,160 --> 00:03:20,480 Speaker 1: to create global online and offline communities where people take 52 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:25,400 Speaker 1: the responsibility for healing each other emotionally and spiritually. 53 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:34,080 Speaker 5: So attention which means deep listening, affection, deep caring and love, Compassion, appreciation, 54 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 5: noticing that everyone is a unique history of the universe. 55 00:03:38,000 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: And acceptance, accepting everybody just as they are radically. That's 56 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: the initiative and we're very proud to associate with her 57 00:03:48,880 --> 00:03:50,320 Speaker 1: and that thank you. 58 00:03:50,400 --> 00:03:51,600 Speaker 3: Deepakak. 59 00:03:51,640 --> 00:03:54,120 Speaker 4: You started your journey in India where you were raised 60 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:57,119 Speaker 4: in a family that was deeply rooted both in medicine 61 00:03:57,240 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 4: and in healing in spirituality. When you go back and 62 00:04:00,600 --> 00:04:03,320 Speaker 4: help us understand some of those early moments that helped 63 00:04:03,360 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 4: shape who you are. 64 00:04:06,160 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, my father was a military doctor in the British Army. 65 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:15,000 Speaker 1: He was a pioneer in his own way. He was 66 00:04:15,040 --> 00:04:19,159 Speaker 1: the first person to describe what we now call high 67 00:04:19,200 --> 00:04:24,680 Speaker 1: altitude heart failure when the Indian and Chinese army, who 68 00:04:24,640 --> 00:04:28,600 Speaker 1: were at war, he was in Tibet doing cardia cat 69 00:04:29,520 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: and discovering a new disease. He was a fellow of 70 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: the Royal College. He was for a time a physician 71 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:41,720 Speaker 1: to the Queen who just passed away, and he was 72 00:04:41,839 --> 00:04:47,080 Speaker 1: very famous actually, But he was a hardcore scientist and 73 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: my mother was the extreme opposite. She was totally immersed, 74 00:04:54,520 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: I would say, in spiritual longing more than anything else. 75 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:05,960 Speaker 1: She read spiritual poetry to us, including the poems of Roomy. 76 00:05:06,240 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 1: But she would spend all day singing hymns, spiritual hymns, 77 00:05:13,279 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 1: but they're all in the former stories, mythical stories. And 78 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:20,919 Speaker 1: before we went to sleep at night, she would start 79 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:26,040 Speaker 1: with a great story and then she would stop at 80 00:05:26,160 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 1: what is now called a cliffhanger, and then she would say, 81 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:31,919 Speaker 1: I want you to dream up the rest of the 82 00:05:32,000 --> 00:05:36,679 Speaker 1: story for the night and make it a happy ending, 83 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 1: and make sure it's a love story, because if it's 84 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:44,120 Speaker 1: not a love story, it's not a good story. Me 85 00:05:44,240 --> 00:05:47,520 Speaker 1: and my little brother learned how to actually take the 86 00:05:47,839 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 1: moment of crisis in the story to make it a 87 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: happy ending and make it a love story no matter 88 00:05:56,480 --> 00:06:00,440 Speaker 1: how you know, what was everything was wrong when to stop, 89 00:06:00,880 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: But in the morning, everything was right when we woke up. 90 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:06,279 Speaker 2: That can be taken into the world. 91 00:06:06,360 --> 00:06:08,960 Speaker 1: Yeah, now, so you know, we learned how to reframe 92 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,839 Speaker 1: every adversity as a happy ending and a love story. 93 00:06:13,240 --> 00:06:15,800 Speaker 2: What's your favorite Roomy? Do you have a favorite Roomy 94 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:19,159 Speaker 2: quote or passage from Roomy? 95 00:06:19,160 --> 00:06:22,360 Speaker 1: I have many. One of my favorites is if you're 96 00:06:22,400 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 1: not naked by now, go back to sleep, And that's 97 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: a many levels naked of spirit. When you're totally vulnerable, 98 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,400 Speaker 1: then you surrender to the divine. Of course, Roomy is 99 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:40,240 Speaker 1: very ecstatic, so you know, it's always full of the 100 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:44,800 Speaker 1: intoxication of love. Yes, in one way or another. So 101 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 1: you're not just a drop in the ocean. You're also 102 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 1: the ocean in the drop. Yes, stop being small, You're 103 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:55,080 Speaker 1: the universe in ecstatic motion. 104 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 2: On my phone, I get Roomy updates once every three 105 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:02,120 Speaker 2: hours like that. Throughout the day. 106 00:07:02,160 --> 00:07:06,160 Speaker 1: It's it's a great way to feel intoxicated with love. 107 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 6: It is Gabrielle, who are some of the most influential 108 00:07:10,160 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 6: people in your childhood and what are some of the 109 00:07:13,160 --> 00:07:16,320 Speaker 6: biggest lessons they passed on down to you. 110 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,880 Speaker 7: I would start probably with my father. I mean, I know, 111 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 7: it's because I always used to I realized very young 112 00:07:26,000 --> 00:07:28,520 Speaker 7: that I was very lucky to have my father be 113 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 7: my father. Does that make sense, Like just very very lucky, 114 00:07:34,200 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 7: especially when I was at school and I realized what 115 00:07:37,680 --> 00:07:41,400 Speaker 7: was going on in other people's homes. And so my 116 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:44,560 Speaker 7: father is an artist. He was one of the first 117 00:07:44,600 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 7: to do video art in the sixties, so performance art, 118 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:56,559 Speaker 7: huge paintings, sculptures, and he always kept our imagination alive 119 00:07:56,640 --> 00:08:01,040 Speaker 7: actually very much like your mother. And so because he 120 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 7: would tell us stories at night, and he would make 121 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 7: sure that the three sisters were in the story. So 122 00:08:07,120 --> 00:08:10,040 Speaker 7: we were in the story. We were traveling through a 123 00:08:10,080 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 7: magical mirror every night and going into other worlds where 124 00:08:14,000 --> 00:08:17,360 Speaker 7: we were saving people basically, and there were dragons and 125 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 7: giant tomatoes and all of these fantastical things. By the way, 126 00:08:22,360 --> 00:08:25,640 Speaker 7: way before Harry Potter. So just letting you know, yes, 127 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:29,000 Speaker 7: this is way like way before Harry Potter. The English 128 00:08:29,040 --> 00:08:33,359 Speaker 7: have something in common. We love dark humor and fantastical imaginations, 129 00:08:33,400 --> 00:08:35,840 Speaker 7: probably because the weather is really bad in England, but 130 00:08:36,280 --> 00:08:40,040 Speaker 7: we have that. And so he has been very instrumental 131 00:08:40,080 --> 00:08:42,880 Speaker 7: in my life. And then when I looked at other figures, 132 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:47,280 Speaker 7: just because when I was growing up, Sir David Attenborough 133 00:08:47,320 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 7: as well. So David Attenborough was someone very influential in 134 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 7: my life. I've still never met him, but the fact 135 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:03,160 Speaker 7: his reminiscent voice, his understand and awe of nature. And 136 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:06,160 Speaker 7: I was brought up in London, so yes we would 137 00:09:06,200 --> 00:09:08,280 Speaker 7: go on holiday to different places, but never in the 138 00:09:08,320 --> 00:09:12,600 Speaker 7: exotic places that so David Adenburgh would show. And so 139 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,560 Speaker 7: that always gave me a lot of freedom in my 140 00:09:16,679 --> 00:09:19,280 Speaker 7: thoughts actually, but I didn't know it was that at 141 00:09:19,280 --> 00:09:22,600 Speaker 7: the time. So when I say childhood, probably till you 142 00:09:22,640 --> 00:09:25,959 Speaker 7: know fifteen, and then of course Shakespeare, you know the 143 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:30,960 Speaker 7: you know, the fight for freedom of thought, speech, place, 144 00:09:32,920 --> 00:09:35,680 Speaker 7: Gandhi as well. But these were all things that came 145 00:09:35,720 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 7: with education. I suppose later on my roles models changed 146 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,959 Speaker 7: and evolved, but those were the keys of how I 147 00:09:43,000 --> 00:09:47,240 Speaker 7: started being falling in love with life. Despite all, like 148 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 7: you said earlier, despite challenges. 149 00:09:50,400 --> 00:09:53,400 Speaker 2: Growing up in London, did you fill a connection with 150 00:09:53,920 --> 00:09:56,000 Speaker 2: Gandhi in India? 151 00:09:56,360 --> 00:10:03,120 Speaker 7: You know, my mother is French, Portuguese Mauritian and I Mauritian. 152 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:06,959 Speaker 7: We have Indian descent and creole, so we're a big mix. 153 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 7: Not particularly when I was growing up. My mother was 154 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 7: very much involved in science. She's a marine biologist, so 155 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:18,400 Speaker 7: we didn't have we had a cultural mix, but everything 156 00:10:18,480 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 7: was integrated. Like, for example, when you go to school 157 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:24,960 Speaker 7: in London, there's something quite extraordinary is that every culture 158 00:10:25,040 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 7: is mixed. So you have a Bangladeshi teacher, you'd have 159 00:10:29,000 --> 00:10:35,040 Speaker 7: a Pakistani lunch day, You'll have very unfortunately disgusting custard 160 00:10:35,160 --> 00:10:39,120 Speaker 7: English custard for desert, you know, but everything is, you know, 161 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 7: very culturally mixed. And I haven't seen that in any 162 00:10:42,559 --> 00:10:45,360 Speaker 7: other country to be honest to this day. So I 163 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,920 Speaker 7: was lucky to have that. So everything was just integrated. 164 00:10:48,400 --> 00:10:53,280 Speaker 7: I suppose my first understanding of India was when actually 165 00:10:53,320 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 7: something happened to me that pushed me into an understanding 166 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:02,200 Speaker 7: beyond what I was act experiencing as suffering, like and 167 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:06,599 Speaker 7: I was looking for something through a solution where is 168 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:09,720 Speaker 7: the root of my suffering. And that's when things came 169 00:11:09,760 --> 00:11:13,320 Speaker 7: to me the Gandhi teachings. Other than just learning at school, 170 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:17,280 Speaker 7: I'm talking about outside of school, classic school. I'm talking 171 00:11:17,280 --> 00:11:20,000 Speaker 7: about where did the wonderment comes from? You know, the 172 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:24,840 Speaker 7: desire to know more? And that came to me after 173 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 7: I experienced physical abuse and rape when I was eighteen. 174 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,679 Speaker 7: So I was pushed, like my soul was pushed to 175 00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 7: a yearn for that, and in a good way, you know, 176 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,520 Speaker 7: I wanted to be thrown into the abyss is because 177 00:11:41,559 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 7: we have to find different ways. We have to get 178 00:11:44,080 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 7: out of our structural understanding of life and what we 179 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,360 Speaker 7: think life is and also what we think we are, 180 00:11:51,480 --> 00:11:56,360 Speaker 7: you know, out of the labels, right, the labels. So yeah, 181 00:11:56,400 --> 00:12:00,560 Speaker 7: that's how I would say, say the spiritual journey begun. 182 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 3: To understand the post traumatic growth, we have to go back. 183 00:12:05,480 --> 00:12:06,080 Speaker 4: To the trauma. 184 00:12:06,280 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 3: Yes, absolutely, and deep hat you indicated it a moment 185 00:12:10,040 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: ago where you reference that there was this moment that 186 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 3: happened in your life that was and it sounds like 187 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,280 Speaker 3: a number of moments that were deeply pivotal. 188 00:12:17,440 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 7: Absolutely, and if. 189 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,280 Speaker 3: You could and if you feel comfortable, go to those 190 00:12:21,320 --> 00:12:24,320 Speaker 3: moments to help us understand who you are and also 191 00:12:24,360 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 3: to speak to us a little bit. But this extraordinary 192 00:12:26,480 --> 00:12:28,319 Speaker 3: work you now do on mental health, and I understand 193 00:12:28,320 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 3: part of that's inspired by Paulette. 194 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:35,600 Speaker 7: Yes, absolutely, yes, So I suppose you know we are 195 00:12:35,640 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 7: a moving landscape and to echo to doctor Deepak Chopra's teachings, 196 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:46,520 Speaker 7: and what we do is we unravel our conditioning. And 197 00:12:47,000 --> 00:12:50,400 Speaker 7: that's important because when we experienced trauma like I did, 198 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:55,360 Speaker 7: like I said earlier, a sudden rape and it hurls 199 00:12:55,400 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 7: you into self reflection and experiencing physical pain, but we 200 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,640 Speaker 7: realized that that very quickly becomes mental pain. So all 201 00:13:04,679 --> 00:13:07,120 Speaker 7: of a sudden, it becomes something that is around you 202 00:13:07,440 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 7: that you're constantly involved in, and it kind of blurs 203 00:13:11,720 --> 00:13:15,720 Speaker 7: your perception of reality of what truth is. Everything is blurry. 204 00:13:15,960 --> 00:13:20,560 Speaker 7: Everything leads to mental confusion, physical confusion, and you have 205 00:13:20,720 --> 00:13:23,680 Speaker 7: no zest for life anymore. And the fact of if 206 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 7: you can't go, if you don't have the tools to 207 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:30,240 Speaker 7: go back to spirit or quote unquote the blank canvas 208 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,880 Speaker 7: of who you truly are, then all you see is 209 00:13:34,760 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 7: a landscape that is tainted with darker colors of your perception. 210 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,200 Speaker 7: And that for me, I did not want to live. 211 00:13:42,320 --> 00:13:43,960 Speaker 7: So that was a choice I made. I said, you 212 00:13:43,960 --> 00:13:47,160 Speaker 7: know what, thanks to my childhood, I've experienced wonder and 213 00:13:47,280 --> 00:13:50,839 Speaker 7: awe and the imagination. I want to go to go 214 00:13:50,920 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 7: back to that. So I was lucky to have that 215 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 7: foundational understanding of what is possible. So that was the 216 00:14:00,040 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 7: very lucky. But I had to get back there. So 217 00:14:03,320 --> 00:14:04,880 Speaker 7: you have to create a bridge, you have to find 218 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:08,280 Speaker 7: a system, You have to ask questions. And I definitely 219 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,840 Speaker 7: didn't want to go down a numbing of emotions. But 220 00:14:11,960 --> 00:14:14,680 Speaker 7: in my case, I was more interested to go back 221 00:14:14,720 --> 00:14:18,520 Speaker 7: to the route and up route the suffering, and that 222 00:14:18,600 --> 00:14:22,200 Speaker 7: led me to wisdom traditions. One thing synchronicity. You ask 223 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 7: the question. You meet a stranger all of a sudden 224 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,359 Speaker 7: he's meditating in a park, and there I am meditating, 225 00:14:27,400 --> 00:14:30,760 Speaker 7: not knowing what meditation was, but by imitating posture, it 226 00:14:30,800 --> 00:14:34,440 Speaker 7: starts as simply as that. And that led to that 227 00:14:34,560 --> 00:14:38,040 Speaker 7: was eighteen. Now I'm forty two. Goodness, it's been half 228 00:14:38,240 --> 00:14:40,920 Speaker 7: two thirds of my life and there's not one day 229 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 7: where I don't miss meditation, but where I'm not embracing 230 00:14:45,560 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 7: the beauty and the joy of immersing yourself with your 231 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:54,960 Speaker 7: soul and your spirit, and yes, you know it's up 232 00:14:55,000 --> 00:14:57,840 Speaker 7: and life is full of mountains and peaks and valleys. 233 00:14:57,880 --> 00:15:00,920 Speaker 7: That's the beauty of who we are. And so when 234 00:15:01,120 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 7: you know to how we started at mental health. I 235 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 7: lost my little sister to suicide six years ago and 236 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:11,520 Speaker 7: it was it is a tragedy. But then I realized 237 00:15:11,560 --> 00:15:15,360 Speaker 7: we looked around and knows every forty second someone dies 238 00:15:15,400 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 7: by suicide in the world. And I was like, oh, 239 00:15:17,000 --> 00:15:20,800 Speaker 7: my goodness. I was not aware of this. And I 240 00:15:20,840 --> 00:15:24,800 Speaker 7: only became aware of it because my dearest little sister 241 00:15:25,400 --> 00:15:29,760 Speaker 7: died by mental health challenges and we were uncapable or 242 00:15:29,840 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 7: the system, and the system were uncapable of giving very 243 00:15:33,280 --> 00:15:36,400 Speaker 7: tangible tools. And I said, wow, here we are in 244 00:15:36,440 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 7: the deepest blind spot of society, So how can we 245 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:43,360 Speaker 7: do something about it. There's something that just springs out 246 00:15:43,400 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 7: of you and you want to create bridges with others 247 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 7: and that kind of is that compelling. The compulsion was 248 00:15:51,400 --> 00:15:54,000 Speaker 7: to how can we create And of course I met 249 00:15:54,000 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 7: doctor Deepak Chopra and that's just led to a very 250 00:15:57,480 --> 00:16:01,480 Speaker 7: simple collaboration where we're just expanding on bringing consciousness into 251 00:16:01,520 --> 00:16:07,520 Speaker 7: mental health, into understanding from a more holistic place, what 252 00:16:07,560 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 7: we can do to be in communities. We obviously use 253 00:16:10,640 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 7: technology because Deepak and Punacha Machaya, who's also a co founder, 254 00:16:15,120 --> 00:16:19,440 Speaker 7: are absolutely involved in how to democratize access to mental 255 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,520 Speaker 7: well being, spiritual wellbeing, all of these things that actually 256 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 7: you know, matter that link the words together in our 257 00:16:28,080 --> 00:16:28,760 Speaker 7: body mind. 258 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:32,840 Speaker 4: As an experience, Lake follow and subscribe to my Legacy 259 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 4: podcast and importantly share this with someone who needs a 260 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 4: little reminder of their strength today. 261 00:16:46,720 --> 00:16:48,800 Speaker 3: Now back to my Legacy DOGG. 262 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,359 Speaker 4: Want to ask you mental health in the West, unfortunately, 263 00:16:51,400 --> 00:16:54,520 Speaker 4: is often separated from physical health. Now, you have taught 264 00:16:54,640 --> 00:16:57,600 Speaker 4: millions of people the inter relationship and the integration of 265 00:16:57,640 --> 00:17:01,280 Speaker 4: mental health and physical health and the connectedness of health. 266 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:03,440 Speaker 4: What do we need to do with how do we 267 00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,200 Speaker 4: bring mental health and physical health together in a more 268 00:17:06,240 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 4: substantive way. Yeah. 269 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: You know when I speak to people at conferences and 270 00:17:15,680 --> 00:17:20,200 Speaker 1: they're all talking about mental health and ask them please 271 00:17:20,240 --> 00:17:25,399 Speaker 1: define the mind, and they can't. Most people, even experts 272 00:17:25,440 --> 00:17:30,040 Speaker 1: in mental health, can't define the mind. What is the mind? 273 00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:35,360 Speaker 1: Where is it? So let me give you a definition 274 00:17:35,560 --> 00:17:43,159 Speaker 1: that originally came from this. Neuropsychiatrist Dan Siegel came up 275 00:17:43,160 --> 00:17:48,280 Speaker 1: with this definition the mind is an embodied and relational 276 00:17:48,480 --> 00:17:56,200 Speaker 1: process that regulates the flow of energy and information. So 277 00:17:56,280 --> 00:17:59,919 Speaker 1: we say where is the mind? Most people point here, 278 00:18:00,760 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: But I can't have a mind in the absence of 279 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:07,000 Speaker 1: other minds. There's no such thing as a mind by itself. 280 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:11,360 Speaker 1: So once you understand that, the mind is both embodied, 281 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,840 Speaker 1: not just in the brain, in the whole body, because 282 00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: you know, you say, my heart is full of sadness, 283 00:18:17,720 --> 00:18:21,320 Speaker 1: I have a gut feeling, I have a thought. That's 284 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:25,560 Speaker 1: all the mind. It's not in the brain. It's embodied, 285 00:18:26,320 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: but it's also relational. Therefore, the mind has no location, right, 286 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: It's not here, it's not here, it's everywhere, and it's relational. 287 00:18:37,960 --> 00:18:42,880 Speaker 1: Once you understand that, then you say, what's the body? 288 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:48,119 Speaker 1: The body is also entangled with other bodies. You know, 289 00:18:48,800 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: you know, my body is made of carbon, hydrogen, oxygen, nitrogen, 290 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:58,040 Speaker 1: which is recycled stardust, and every time you eat food, 291 00:18:58,280 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 1: you're recycling start dust. So the body is also an 292 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: entangled process in a deeper ecosystem of relationships, so is 293 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: the mind. And the mind is sensations, images, feelings, and thoughts, imagination, desires, memories. 294 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 1: The body is a perceptual activity, which is entangled with 295 00:19:23,960 --> 00:19:28,000 Speaker 1: the mental activity. Okay, so I say, think of something 296 00:19:28,119 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: that happened two weeks ago that caused you distress. Close 297 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,399 Speaker 1: your eyes and just think of something that caused you 298 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:39,560 Speaker 1: dress and immediately feel discomfort in the body. 299 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:40,080 Speaker 7: Okay. 300 00:19:40,200 --> 00:19:44,040 Speaker 1: Then I say, okay, now switch, think of somebody that 301 00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:47,760 Speaker 1: made you feel happy. You know, he bent on his knees, 302 00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:49,920 Speaker 1: opened a bottle of champagne. I said, I'm in love 303 00:19:49,960 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 1: with you. Will you marry me and not feel your body? Switch? Right? So, 304 00:19:56,400 --> 00:20:00,359 Speaker 1: in these traditions, the Eastern Wisdom traditions, the body mind 305 00:20:00,440 --> 00:20:06,280 Speaker 1: a unified process in a deeper domain called consciousness. So 306 00:20:06,400 --> 00:20:10,480 Speaker 1: consciousness is both the body and mind. The body is 307 00:20:10,720 --> 00:20:16,919 Speaker 1: perceptions and the mind is cognition or mental activity, and 308 00:20:16,960 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 1: they're inseparably one. They're not even connected, They're one thing. 309 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,399 Speaker 1: And in these traditions, therefore, the body is not considered 310 00:20:26,400 --> 00:20:31,160 Speaker 1: a material entity. The Buddhists called the body conceptual body. 311 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:35,919 Speaker 1: The Indian loss Us call it the carmic body because 312 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:40,800 Speaker 1: everything that you have experienced or interpreted in the past 313 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,520 Speaker 1: is now present as what we call the body mind. 314 00:20:45,440 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: So once you understand this that actually there comes another 315 00:20:49,560 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 1: deeper dilemma because we call about mental health. In the 316 00:20:53,520 --> 00:20:56,920 Speaker 1: deeper reality, there's no such thing because the mind is 317 00:20:57,000 --> 00:21:04,119 Speaker 1: always dualistic, me and the other. It's you and me, okay, 318 00:21:04,160 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 1: So already we are dualism. So the mind by definition 319 00:21:08,080 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 1: hovers between pleasure and pain, happiness and sadness. It's never 320 00:21:14,040 --> 00:21:20,280 Speaker 1: at peace. So saying peace of mind is an oxymoron. Okay, 321 00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:26,600 Speaker 1: You cannot have a mind unless you have the dancing 322 00:21:26,800 --> 00:21:32,000 Speaker 1: of opposites. And these opposites are not opposites or contradictions, 323 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:37,040 Speaker 1: their complementarities. Because to experience hot, you will have to 324 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: know what cold is. To experience pleasure, you have to 325 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,040 Speaker 1: know what pain is. So the mind is dover at peace. 326 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:48,040 Speaker 1: What is at peace is the awareness in which the 327 00:21:48,160 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 1: body mind is a process, and that we call the spirit. 328 00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:57,399 Speaker 1: So there is only spiritual wellbeing. And if you have 329 00:21:57,480 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: spiritual wellbeing, then your mental and physical well being as 330 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 1: a byproduct. You don't even have to seek it. 331 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:07,040 Speaker 2: How does one do that. 332 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: By going beyond the mind, So, which is in spiritual 333 00:22:15,080 --> 00:22:20,640 Speaker 1: divisions called transcendence stillness. Roomy, we were talking. God's language 334 00:22:20,680 --> 00:22:26,840 Speaker 1: is silence. Everything else is poor translation. So God's language 335 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:29,399 Speaker 1: is silent, Just shut up and you'll be at peace. 336 00:22:30,160 --> 00:22:36,200 Speaker 1: I think we spend too much energy speaking about banal things. Meanwhile, 337 00:22:36,280 --> 00:22:40,240 Speaker 1: galaxies are tumbling across the cosmic horizon faster than the 338 00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:43,640 Speaker 1: speed of light. But people get agitated, you know, Red 339 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:48,640 Speaker 1: Sox or whatever. You know, what was the other team 340 00:22:48,800 --> 00:22:53,040 Speaker 1: or you know this team or that team? Well, yeah, whatever, 341 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:58,199 Speaker 1: So we waste our time getting it's entertaining, but ultimately 342 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:03,080 Speaker 1: there's only spiritual well being, you know. So even when 343 00:23:03,119 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: you're in the midst of a turbulent mind, you know, 344 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,840 Speaker 1: people say you should be happy all the time. Well 345 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: that's very artificial. A happy mind all the time is 346 00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:16,919 Speaker 1: a turbulent mind. It's an exhausting mind, just like a 347 00:23:16,960 --> 00:23:22,080 Speaker 1: negative mind is also exhausting. But a peaceful mind is 348 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,320 Speaker 1: not the mind, it's the spirit. So every time you 349 00:23:25,359 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: feel agitated, you go back to yourself. But we ignore 350 00:23:29,880 --> 00:23:32,320 Speaker 1: the spirits. It's like a fish and water looking for 351 00:23:32,400 --> 00:23:37,800 Speaker 1: water because where it is water. Okay, It's like the 352 00:23:37,880 --> 00:23:42,040 Speaker 1: fish is made of water. The fish is made of 353 00:23:42,200 --> 00:23:46,680 Speaker 1: the ocean, but it doesn't know that. Okay, we are 354 00:23:46,760 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: made of the spirit, but we ignore it. For the mind, 355 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:56,159 Speaker 1: the body, and all our conversations. 356 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,440 Speaker 2: Like follow and subscribe to my Legacy podcast. Back in 357 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:12,200 Speaker 2: a moment, Now back to my Legacy depak. 358 00:24:12,320 --> 00:24:15,800 Speaker 6: You've said that the world is on fire and so 359 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:18,560 Speaker 6: are we, and that the chaos around us is a 360 00:24:18,600 --> 00:24:23,399 Speaker 6: reflection of our own interstate. How do we as individuals 361 00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:29,000 Speaker 6: begin to create peace within ourselves so we can create 362 00:24:29,200 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 6: peace in the world. 363 00:24:31,320 --> 00:24:36,159 Speaker 1: Mahutbanghani said, the only way to change the world is 364 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,560 Speaker 1: to be the change yourself. So you have to be 365 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:42,840 Speaker 1: the change you want to see in the world. If 366 00:24:42,880 --> 00:24:46,760 Speaker 1: you want peace in the world, start with your own peace. 367 00:24:47,840 --> 00:24:52,560 Speaker 1: If you want love, then start giving love. Love can 368 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,400 Speaker 1: only be shared by those who know how to give 369 00:24:56,440 --> 00:25:01,000 Speaker 1: and receive love. Peace can only be created by those 370 00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:05,280 Speaker 1: who are peaceful, not by peace activists, but those who 371 00:25:05,359 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 1: are at peace. And if you have a critical mass 372 00:25:08,600 --> 00:25:13,160 Speaker 1: of people who want to be the change they want 373 00:25:13,200 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: to see in the world, who are the change, a 374 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:20,680 Speaker 1: critical mass that would translate into peace in the world. 375 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:25,680 Speaker 1: But you need that critical mass right now. The critical 376 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,520 Speaker 1: mass that we have is the recycling of trauma. So 377 00:25:30,600 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: when we say and the history of humanity is in 378 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,560 Speaker 1: a way the history of trauma. Ever since the Middle Ages, 379 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:43,199 Speaker 1: we recycle trauma, and the memory of trauma is anger. 380 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:50,040 Speaker 1: The desire to get even is hostility. Blaming yourself is 381 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:53,879 Speaker 1: guilt and shame. And then the depletion of energy that 382 00:25:53,960 --> 00:25:57,399 Speaker 1: happens as a result is called depression, which is the 383 00:25:57,480 --> 00:26:02,200 Speaker 1: number one pandemic recycling of trauma. So if we want 384 00:26:02,240 --> 00:26:05,640 Speaker 1: to change the world, we have to stop recycling trauma. 385 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:09,840 Speaker 1: And that can only come about if we are at 386 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 1: peace with ourselves. So, as I've been said, forever peace 387 00:26:14,640 --> 00:26:21,480 Speaker 1: begins with us, with ourselves. It's not happening because of 388 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:31,159 Speaker 1: the melodrama of social media, news, networks, entertainment where violence 389 00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:36,840 Speaker 1: is romanticized. You know, World War One, people who want 390 00:26:37,400 --> 00:26:41,680 Speaker 1: the war they get medals as heroes. The other side 391 00:26:42,760 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: war criminals. So you know who's a war criminal, who's 392 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:52,239 Speaker 1: a war hero? What is war? It's murder, you know 393 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:54,720 Speaker 1: when you look at the history. And I hate to 394 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 1: be a political since now we have permissioned to be 395 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: a political But colonialism, slave trade and piracy went together. 396 00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:11,159 Speaker 1: You know, slave trade and colonialism and piracy are the 397 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:16,359 Speaker 1: same thing, but they were done under a uniform with medals. 398 00:27:17,160 --> 00:27:21,960 Speaker 1: Long live the King, live the monarch. That has to stop. 399 00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:26,600 Speaker 1: We have to stop glorifying trauma. Even now star wars, 400 00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: you know, the war against cancer, the war against drug. 401 00:27:31,600 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: Everything is a war or metaphorsed themselves. We're not talking 402 00:27:36,359 --> 00:27:40,119 Speaker 1: about creative solutions. We're talking about war. You know, I 403 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: beat the cancer, I got rid of the cancer. No, 404 00:27:43,560 --> 00:27:47,640 Speaker 1: there's a creative way to solve every problem. And that 405 00:27:47,680 --> 00:27:51,440 Speaker 1: creativity comes from deep within our soul, you know, so 406 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:55,760 Speaker 1: our soul. When we refer to God, we say the creator. Right, 407 00:27:56,240 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: So every act of creativity is a divine act. And 408 00:28:00,160 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: that's not an algorithm, okay, that is that is the spirit. 409 00:28:05,440 --> 00:28:06,440 Speaker 1: That's the only way. 410 00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 2: We come from a place of power, being for something 411 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,280 Speaker 2: rather than against, you know, being for health rather than 412 00:28:13,280 --> 00:28:16,840 Speaker 2: being But I also know that we have to before 413 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 2: we leave our house every day, put on peace, you know, 414 00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,720 Speaker 2: put on love you know, whether you know it's through meditation, 415 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:25,959 Speaker 2: you know, if it's through as your you know, blessing 416 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,639 Speaker 2: your water as you eat, you know, playing sounds that 417 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 2: uplift you and tune you in before you even tune out. 418 00:28:32,440 --> 00:28:37,000 Speaker 2: So that's an incredibly important part of my day and 419 00:28:37,080 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 2: how we start our day in our home. What are 420 00:28:39,400 --> 00:28:43,200 Speaker 2: some rituals for you, Gabriella that that you, that ground you, 421 00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,160 Speaker 2: and that set you, set you a glow on your 422 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 2: on your daily. 423 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:52,280 Speaker 7: Oh god. I use everything as a tool, you know. 424 00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:58,040 Speaker 7: I literally it's like I use my environment to amplify 425 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:02,480 Speaker 7: my practice. Does that make sense? So that's the first 426 00:29:02,520 --> 00:29:05,040 Speaker 7: of all, it's having that awareness. So if because I 427 00:29:05,080 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 7: travel a lot, so everything becomes my practice. The one 428 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:14,240 Speaker 7: practice that I do before metadate, I take a shower 429 00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:18,240 Speaker 7: and obviously, I mean, it's good to say a power 430 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 7: but at the water, I see it cleansing the emotions. 431 00:29:25,080 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 2: He's doing that because that was I didn't say that. Yeah, 432 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 2: but that is absolutely one of the things exactly because 433 00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:33,320 Speaker 2: we are. 434 00:29:33,200 --> 00:29:35,840 Speaker 7: So emotional these days because of so many things going 435 00:29:35,880 --> 00:29:40,760 Speaker 7: on extraordinary times. So it's so I like, and I 436 00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 7: visualize that all of it's actually a Tibetan practice. If 437 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:45,800 Speaker 7: we were to take it a little further, where we 438 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:50,680 Speaker 7: see a gray gray matter just kind of go leave 439 00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,720 Speaker 7: our bodies, not only through our breath, but from a 440 00:29:53,760 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 7: physical perspective, go down the drain and it's recycled back 441 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 7: into you know, this extra ordinary planet and ether. So 442 00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,000 Speaker 7: that's you know, But then of course I have my meditation. 443 00:30:04,200 --> 00:30:06,840 Speaker 7: But I and that's the sitting meditation. But when I'm 444 00:30:06,880 --> 00:30:10,200 Speaker 7: walking out the door, I'm going I have my inner mantras. 445 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:14,160 Speaker 7: So I'm hearing my mantra in every sound around me. 446 00:30:15,200 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 7: So it's a private, sacred practice. So yes, sometimes I 447 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 7: have longer times. I'm not. Deepak has leisurely hours of 448 00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 7: meditation before he even starts the day. I sometimes I 449 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,960 Speaker 7: only get thirty minutes. Sometimes I get forty five. Sometimes 450 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 7: I only get ten. You know, different ages, different times, 451 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 7: different demands of life. But I get it, and then 452 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:41,200 Speaker 7: I carry the mantra with me into the day, and 453 00:30:41,320 --> 00:30:44,239 Speaker 7: I always have that thing that Deepak said. It's like 454 00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:50,840 Speaker 7: you go back to what is observing the experience, being 455 00:30:50,920 --> 00:30:54,680 Speaker 7: the observer, not only but actually becoming the space that 456 00:30:54,720 --> 00:30:57,880 Speaker 7: you're in and understanding that we're all all in, each 457 00:30:57,880 --> 00:31:01,680 Speaker 7: and every one of us. So I'm actively observing constantly. 458 00:31:02,160 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 7: If I'm feeling a little distressed after, I'll go and 459 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 7: wash my hands. You know, I'm using water a lot 460 00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,320 Speaker 7: and the elements grounding myself. Obviously, can't take my shoes 461 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 7: off in New York too much and ground myself in 462 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 7: some lovely dog shit. But I don't do that. But 463 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 7: I imagine I visualize, you know, so using what I 464 00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 7: have because you have to become a spiritual ninja. You know, 465 00:31:23,800 --> 00:31:26,760 Speaker 7: you have to become a spiritual ninja. There's rules and regulations, 466 00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:29,600 Speaker 7: but no, you adapt it because we are the landscape. 467 00:31:29,880 --> 00:31:33,280 Speaker 7: From a consciousness perspective, we are everything deep packing. 468 00:31:33,320 --> 00:31:37,840 Speaker 3: Gabriella, thank you for sharing your wisdom, your thought, your 469 00:31:37,920 --> 00:31:41,120 Speaker 3: consciousness and your love with us today. Part of the 470 00:31:41,160 --> 00:31:43,400 Speaker 3: show is we always invite our listeners and viewers to 471 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,480 Speaker 3: incorporate into the daily practice ways that they can deepen 472 00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,720 Speaker 3: their legacy. And so I'm so grateful to the two 473 00:31:48,720 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 3: of you. When you talk about the attention, the affection, 474 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:56,560 Speaker 3: the appreciation and the acceptance, I what beautiful forwards. And 475 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:58,520 Speaker 3: I hope people share that out on social media and 476 00:31:58,560 --> 00:32:01,280 Speaker 3: amplify that out the pack. You talked about the history 477 00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 3: of humanity is the recycling of trauma, and we have 478 00:32:04,080 --> 00:32:07,600 Speaker 3: to consciously stop stop that recycling. 479 00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: Stop recycling drama in your life with everyone that you meet. 480 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:15,920 Speaker 3: Powerful and Gabriella, you gave us some simple practices. From 481 00:32:15,920 --> 00:32:18,640 Speaker 3: that cleansing of that water to that grounding of our feet, 482 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:21,600 Speaker 3: to the glove and the kindness and the seeing each 483 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: other is fundamentally connected, always so Deepak and Gabriella, We're 484 00:32:26,160 --> 00:32:28,360 Speaker 3: grateful for you joining us today from the Lake Nona 485 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:33,520 Speaker 3: Impact Forum at KPMG's Lake House in Orlando's Lake Nona community, 486 00:32:33,920 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 3: and thank you for living your legacy every day. 487 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 2: Thank you for joining us. If you enjoy today's conversation, subscribe, share, 488 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 2: and follow us at my Legacy Movement on social media. 489 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:50,120 Speaker 2: New episodes drop every Tuesday, with bonus content every Thursday. 490 00:32:50,440 --> 00:32:54,160 Speaker 2: At its core, this podcast honors doctor King's vision of 491 00:32:54,200 --> 00:32:58,280 Speaker 2: the beloved community and the power of connection. A Legacy 492 00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 2: Plus Studio production distributed it by iHeartMedia creator and executive 493 00:33:03,520 --> 00:33:08,480 Speaker 2: producer Suzanne Haywood co executive producer Lisa Lyle. Listen on 494 00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 2: the iHeartRadio app or wherever you get your podcast. Until 495 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:23,800 Speaker 2: next time, may you find inspiration to live your legacy.