1 00:00:01,440 --> 00:00:03,560 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to The Doug Gotleep Show podcast. Be 2 00:00:03,600 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: sure to catch us live every weekday three to five, 3 00:00:06,040 --> 00:00:09,479 Speaker 1: twelve two Pacific on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local 4 00:00:09,480 --> 00:00:12,160 Speaker 1: station for The Doug Gottlieb Show at Fox Sports Radio 5 00:00:12,200 --> 00:00:14,800 Speaker 1: dot com, or stream us live every day on the 6 00:00:14,840 --> 00:00:18,759 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio app by searching apps car What up put you 7 00:00:18,800 --> 00:00:26,720 Speaker 1: Doug Gottlieb Show, Fox Sports Radio. I hope you're doing great. 8 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,440 Speaker 1: The Doug Gottlieb Show broadcast live every single day, same 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:36,280 Speaker 1: bad time, same bad channel. I'm a proud of lamb 10 00:00:36,320 --> 00:00:41,640 Speaker 1: of Oklahoma State. They beat Tennessee Martin on Thursday and 11 00:00:41,640 --> 00:00:48,519 Speaker 1: they'll play UH Oregon on Saturday in Eugene, part of 12 00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,240 Speaker 1: a home and home series. Oregon comes to Stilly next year. 13 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 1: All of our fans in Eugene. Yeah, next year, I'll 14 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: head down there. We'll have a have a good time 15 00:00:56,120 --> 00:00:58,040 Speaker 1: early in the season. Be able to do the show 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:03,800 Speaker 1: probably the night before from there. But there was a 17 00:01:03,920 --> 00:01:07,080 Speaker 1: curious back and forth, and I'll give you the blow 18 00:01:07,080 --> 00:01:10,200 Speaker 1: by blow with a couple of little cuts on it. 19 00:01:10,200 --> 00:01:16,640 Speaker 1: It's really interesting here right that we are paying players 20 00:01:17,360 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: all levels of college athletics. Some are there, there are 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: there are some college basketball programs who do not very 22 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: few college football. I don't think there are any that 23 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,080 Speaker 1: aren't paying any players. You do make the decision on 24 00:01:31,360 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: paying everybody, which I think most people do in football, 25 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:40,440 Speaker 1: it's hit or missing basketball. Do you know, do tears 26 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: or do you just each individual guy would negotiate with him. 27 00:01:44,160 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: Lots of decisions to be made from that perspective, But 28 00:01:48,320 --> 00:01:55,760 Speaker 1: I think, just me, I think that you're pretty well 29 00:01:55,800 --> 00:02:01,400 Speaker 1: aware players are being paid, so keep mind. And there's 30 00:02:01,400 --> 00:02:03,400 Speaker 1: still this weird feeling that a lot of people have, 31 00:02:03,520 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: like are we supposed to be doing this? We're not 32 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,639 Speaker 1: supposed to be doing this. And some of the reaction 33 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:15,280 Speaker 1: is in uh the idea that it diminishes the coach 34 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:23,560 Speaker 1: if you have a bigger pot of money. Right, So 35 00:02:23,680 --> 00:02:25,720 Speaker 1: we'll get to it a second. Here's my Gundhy, head 36 00:02:25,760 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 1: coach of Oklahoma State, getting ready for the Oregon game. 37 00:02:28,880 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 2: I guess that the last three years that we spent 38 00:02:34,760 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 2: around seven million over the three years, and I think 39 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:44,880 Speaker 2: Oregon spent close to forty last year alone. Wow, so 40 00:02:45,360 --> 00:02:48,560 Speaker 2: that was just one year. Okay, Now I might be 41 00:02:48,600 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 2: off a few million, but they're spending a lot of money. 42 00:02:51,680 --> 00:02:54,360 Speaker 2: They spent a lot of money, you know, and there's 43 00:02:54,480 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 2: some schools that are doing that. 44 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,360 Speaker 1: If you listen to the entirety of the cut. He 45 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:05,240 Speaker 1: wasn't negative about organ he was saying they have amazing resources. 46 00:03:05,280 --> 00:03:08,960 Speaker 1: I do think that figure of forty is quite high. 47 00:03:09,200 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 1: I think it's, you know, again, that's factoring in a 48 00:03:11,600 --> 00:03:14,480 Speaker 1: bunch of stuff that aren't what they're really factoring in. 49 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:17,200 Speaker 1: My guess is it starts with a two. But I 50 00:03:17,200 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: don't know. Here's Dan Lanning, highly successful Oregon head coach, 51 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:25,440 Speaker 1: former Georgia assistant. Here's Lanning. 52 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 3: I got a ton of respect for coach Gundy. You know, ultimately, 53 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:30,240 Speaker 3: how blessed are we to be in a place that's 54 00:03:30,280 --> 00:03:31,760 Speaker 3: invested in winning. If you want to be a top 55 00:03:31,760 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 3: ten team in college football, you better be invested in winning, 56 00:03:34,320 --> 00:03:36,800 Speaker 3: and we spend to win. Some people say to have 57 00:03:36,840 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 3: an excuse for why they don't right, And ultimately, he's 58 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:40,480 Speaker 3: a great coach. 59 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 4: They've done an unbelievable job. 60 00:03:41,640 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 3: But I want to be a team that's competing at 61 00:03:43,280 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 3: the highest level, and we're really fortunate to be in 62 00:03:46,680 --> 00:03:47,320 Speaker 3: that situation. 63 00:03:47,560 --> 00:03:49,040 Speaker 4: So I can't speak on their situation. 64 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,520 Speaker 3: I have no idea, you know, What's what they got 65 00:03:51,520 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: in their pockets over there? 66 00:03:53,200 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 4: I'm sure U. T. Martin maybe didn't have as much 67 00:03:55,200 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 4: as them last week. 68 00:03:57,200 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's where he goes to a whole bode. Hey 69 00:04:00,800 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: you played U T. Martin last week? Hah, they didn't 70 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,640 Speaker 1: have nearly the budget you had. Didn't hear you complaining 71 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:11,560 Speaker 1: about it? Is Gandhi complaining? Yeah? 72 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:12,160 Speaker 5: Is he? 73 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 1: Is he honest? Yeah? Like, look, I was critical of 74 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,120 Speaker 1: Mike last year when you know his star running back 75 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:21,599 Speaker 1: out a dui and he's like, ain't anything I haven't 76 00:04:21,600 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 1: done a hundred times again, I wouldn't have said it, 77 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,479 Speaker 1: nor would I have done it. I mean I Saturday 78 00:04:28,560 --> 00:04:30,720 Speaker 1: night this weekend, I went over to a buddy's house. 79 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,640 Speaker 1: They're all having old fashions, was consonable fashions. I was like, 80 00:04:34,880 --> 00:04:36,919 Speaker 1: I just can't have one. They're like, why it was? 81 00:04:37,320 --> 00:04:39,840 Speaker 1: I can't get a dui? Like one drink? Like What's 82 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,760 Speaker 1: what's the point of one drink? Like I'd like to 83 00:04:41,760 --> 00:04:43,520 Speaker 1: have a couple of drinks? And I'm just not gonna 84 00:04:43,560 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 1: do it. I'm not gonna put myself in that situation. 85 00:04:45,880 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: I wonder I'm not gonna possibly get a dui. But 86 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:52,559 Speaker 1: the point is that even though I greatly disagree with them, 87 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 1: no one has ever accused my gandhy of pulling punches 88 00:04:55,320 --> 00:04:58,040 Speaker 1: and being dishonest. I think what he wanted to get 89 00:04:58,040 --> 00:04:59,800 Speaker 1: out there was we had no money. The pass a 90 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,240 Speaker 1: couple years. This is the first year we're spending money 91 00:05:02,360 --> 00:05:04,160 Speaker 1: and we're trying to figure it out, and there's gonna 92 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 1: be hits, so there's gonna be missus but Landing taking 93 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:09,920 Speaker 1: a swipe late, and man, I don't think U. T. 94 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:14,200 Speaker 1: Barton had that much money. The other part, which is 95 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,880 Speaker 1: kind of patently unfair, which is, hey, i'd rather you know, 96 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: if you want to spend to win, that sounds great. 97 00:05:19,520 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: Some programs don't have that. If Boone Pickens were still alive, 98 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:30,320 Speaker 1: they probably would maybe maybe not. You know, Oklahoma State, 99 00:05:31,279 --> 00:05:33,760 Speaker 1: it just does not have the depth of that level 100 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,400 Speaker 1: of donors that are that committed, and it makes it 101 00:05:37,440 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: really hard. Plus they're trying to be good at every 102 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:44,800 Speaker 1: sport softball, basketball, football, soccer, wrestling, they're really good at, 103 00:05:44,960 --> 00:05:47,839 Speaker 1: you know questing. My daughter said, like they have little 104 00:05:47,880 --> 00:05:50,160 Speaker 1: money because they're trying to be good at so many 105 00:05:50,200 --> 00:05:55,680 Speaker 1: different sports. But I thought it was interesting, like that's 106 00:05:55,680 --> 00:05:58,520 Speaker 1: what coaches talk about all the time. I told you, 107 00:05:58,520 --> 00:06:01,800 Speaker 1: guys this last week. We were playing Ohio State last year. 108 00:06:02,320 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: It was like an eight point game, and I switched 109 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:05,760 Speaker 1: up a ball string coverage and then all of a sudden, 110 00:06:05,800 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: we're down like fifteen. I just started emptying the bench 111 00:06:07,920 --> 00:06:10,279 Speaker 1: and playing guys. It was the one by game that 112 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: got bad and I was in. I was just devastating 113 00:06:13,839 --> 00:06:15,760 Speaker 1: the locker, mad at myself. Why did I switch the 114 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,920 Speaker 1: ball screen coverage. I just tried to spark us. Well, 115 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: I'm in my own sorrow. One of my coaches grabbed 116 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,880 Speaker 1: and he said, what was our budget this year? Said 117 00:06:29,640 --> 00:06:32,800 Speaker 1: at one hundred? He said, yeah, there was a three million, 118 00:06:34,279 --> 00:06:38,359 Speaker 1: maybe three and a half. That thing was over before 119 00:06:38,400 --> 00:06:45,640 Speaker 1: the jump ball, right, So you can use an excuse 120 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:50,080 Speaker 1: or an explanation or a motivation for your fans, your 121 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,440 Speaker 1: bone donors. If you want to be like Organ, you 122 00:06:52,520 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 1: gotta spend like Organ. Landing took it as a slam 123 00:06:57,080 --> 00:07:00,480 Speaker 1: at him a little bit. That's why that's why he pack. 124 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,679 Speaker 1: And I think it's because Landing operates on the premise 125 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: that I agree with this that does it take great personnel? Yes, 126 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:10,360 Speaker 1: does it takes spending short, but it also takes quality coaching, 127 00:07:10,400 --> 00:07:12,440 Speaker 1: because the more you pay kids, the harder it is 128 00:07:12,480 --> 00:07:16,960 Speaker 1: to get them to do the little things. We do 129 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 1: this every Monday. I don't see why we shouldn't do it. Now, 130 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,880 Speaker 1: let's do a little love and hate? Shall we love 131 00:07:23,160 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: and hate? Oh? It's Tuesday? Did you guys do it yesterday? 132 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:29,920 Speaker 1: Did you guys do it love and hate yesterday? Dan Buyer? 133 00:07:30,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 5: Yes we did, Yes we did. 134 00:07:31,920 --> 00:07:33,000 Speaker 1: What'd you love from the weekend? 135 00:07:33,800 --> 00:07:39,840 Speaker 5: I loved Ohio State's victory on Saturday against Texas. That 136 00:07:40,600 --> 00:07:44,440 Speaker 5: was great. Again, not overblown, but it was just great 137 00:07:44,440 --> 00:07:46,880 Speaker 5: to have college football back and the team won a 138 00:07:46,880 --> 00:07:47,320 Speaker 5: big game. 139 00:07:48,080 --> 00:07:50,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, Sam, would you love on the weekend? 140 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:52,120 Speaker 5: Well? 141 00:07:52,120 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 6: I was supposed to go camping and I did not. 142 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,119 Speaker 6: I'm kind of glad that I didn't. It fell through 143 00:07:56,280 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 6: and I gorged, gorged on college football. 144 00:07:59,360 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 7: That's what I loved. 145 00:08:00,000 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 6: I mean, I was watching from Thursday night up until 146 00:08:02,040 --> 00:08:06,120 Speaker 6: last night. It was a wonderful, wonderful Labor Day weekend. 147 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 1: What about you there, Jase two. 148 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 7: I'm a college football casual. I don't necessarily root for 149 00:08:13,720 --> 00:08:16,240 Speaker 7: a team, but I root for storylines, as you know, 150 00:08:17,000 --> 00:08:20,360 Speaker 7: and going into the year, I'm rooting against two individuals, 151 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:26,760 Speaker 7: Arch Manning and Deon Sanders. Both of them crap the 152 00:08:26,760 --> 00:08:29,640 Speaker 7: bed over the weekend, and I enjoyed that. I love that. 153 00:08:30,200 --> 00:08:32,600 Speaker 1: I did think that Deon Sanders, like they not calling 154 00:08:32,640 --> 00:08:36,960 Speaker 1: a time out there when there's two blatantly obvious moments 155 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:39,400 Speaker 1: where they could have called the time out and they didn't. 156 00:08:39,400 --> 00:08:41,679 Speaker 1: On their last drive. I wasn't jeering them to lose. 157 00:08:41,760 --> 00:08:43,320 Speaker 1: I did want to see what it looked like without 158 00:08:43,320 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 1: his son, and they lost. What I love from the weekend, 159 00:08:48,120 --> 00:08:49,840 Speaker 1: I mean, I just loved that I didn't actually have 160 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 1: to move Saturday. I moved very little. I moved very low. 161 00:08:54,040 --> 00:08:57,440 Speaker 1: I was not rewarded. Like the Texas Texas Ohouse Tate 162 00:08:57,480 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: game was not a great game. Nobody will tell you 163 00:08:59,679 --> 00:09:02,040 Speaker 1: other wise, Like it just wasn't. It wasn't that cleanly played. 164 00:09:02,960 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 1: Teams weren't ready. Wasn't none of the games were great. 165 00:09:06,400 --> 00:09:08,120 Speaker 1: But it was just good to have something on TV 166 00:09:08,200 --> 00:09:11,520 Speaker 1: that we could all argue about. On Monday, I just 167 00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,559 Speaker 1: really good. What'd you hate from the weekend, Dann Byer? 168 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:16,240 Speaker 1: What was your hate that you listened? 169 00:09:18,720 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 5: I think my hate was my luggage got delayed because 170 00:09:23,200 --> 00:09:26,600 Speaker 5: my plane got delayed and traveling on Saturday, so there 171 00:09:26,679 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 5: was a bunch of stuff, and so then you have 172 00:09:28,360 --> 00:09:30,280 Speaker 5: to make the decision do you wait because I was 173 00:09:30,320 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 5: fortunate enough to have another flight where my luggage was 174 00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: coming in that same night, or do you wait till 175 00:09:35,160 --> 00:09:38,720 Speaker 5: the next day? I did not like that very much. 176 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,480 Speaker 1: Okay, Jay Stu, what'd you hate from the weekend? 177 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:50,000 Speaker 7: I hated watching my baseball team, the Dodgers regress to 178 00:09:50,120 --> 00:09:53,960 Speaker 7: what they were before sweeping the Podrays. They still they're 179 00:09:54,000 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 7: still doing with the same issues. In a weekend against 180 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 7: the Podrays at home, they seemingly had fixed all all 181 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 7: of their problems, addressed all their bugaboos, and then in 182 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,839 Speaker 7: the games prior or games after that, they have gone 183 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 7: back to what they were prior to that. So we 184 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:13,880 Speaker 7: need to fix some stuff up here in the last 185 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 7: three weeks of the season. 186 00:10:15,240 --> 00:10:17,880 Speaker 1: Three weeks left, ug Sam, what did you hope in 187 00:10:17,880 --> 00:10:18,280 Speaker 1: the weekend? 188 00:10:19,440 --> 00:10:21,319 Speaker 6: I think I need a new TV or at least 189 00:10:21,400 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 6: need to do a factory reset of my TV because 190 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 6: the YouTube TV multiview, which that really should be my hate, 191 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 6: you still can't customize it exactly the way you want it, 192 00:10:32,160 --> 00:10:34,160 Speaker 6: and that bothers me. They should have this figured out. 193 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:36,560 Speaker 6: You should pick exactly the games you want. That's not 194 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 6: my hate though. It's been a long standing right for me. 195 00:10:39,200 --> 00:10:39,960 Speaker 7: The multiview thing. 196 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 6: But my TV couldn't even handle multiview. It kept crashing, 197 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,760 Speaker 6: so I couldn't watch four games on one screen. It 198 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:48,240 Speaker 6: kept just like turning off or going back to the 199 00:10:48,280 --> 00:10:52,920 Speaker 6: main menu. So, oh, I have no I know, I 200 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:54,200 Speaker 6: might need a new TV. 201 00:10:55,720 --> 00:10:58,440 Speaker 5: H Those are always fun purchases though, right, Get the 202 00:10:58,520 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 5: upgrades a little bit bigger one. 203 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I need a better picture. 204 00:11:01,320 --> 00:11:01,640 Speaker 7: Yeah. 205 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:04,319 Speaker 6: Sure, this is an old Roku TV and it's small. 206 00:11:04,120 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 1: And they're not that I mean, and if you can 207 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:08,400 Speaker 1: go to like Target and get one's totallyne not expensive. 208 00:11:08,440 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, TVs are crazy. Imagine that in two thousand and five, 209 00:11:14,080 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 7: so just twenty years ago, if you were if you 210 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,160 Speaker 7: were to say, one day, I'm going to complain that 211 00:11:20,440 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 7: these four HD images will not be able to look 212 00:11:25,559 --> 00:11:30,280 Speaker 7: great on my TV in uh from the internet. 213 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, now you put in proper perspective there, I would say. 214 00:11:34,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 6: I will say that we've had the picture in picture 215 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 6: for a long time now. It's been a technology, it's 216 00:11:38,280 --> 00:11:38,760 Speaker 6: been around. 217 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:41,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, but it went away, it went away for a while. 218 00:11:41,400 --> 00:11:41,800 Speaker 7: It went away. 219 00:11:41,880 --> 00:11:43,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, went away for a while. 220 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:45,360 Speaker 7: Because it was garbage. So that's not even a great 221 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 7: example to use. Clean that up. 222 00:11:48,400 --> 00:11:52,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, I in the podcast, My my hate is the 223 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: nonsensical decisions and nonsensical takes that come from one college 224 00:11:58,120 --> 00:12:00,960 Speaker 1: football game where people aren't really invested. 225 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:01,120 Speaker 7: You know. 226 00:12:01,160 --> 00:12:03,160 Speaker 1: It's the same thing we get with bowl games or 227 00:12:03,200 --> 00:12:06,800 Speaker 1: with NCAA tournament games, like but especially now, like they've 228 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:12,200 Speaker 1: literally had fifteen practices their kids, so they're not whatever 229 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: your memory is of great college quarterbacks, go and watch 230 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:18,320 Speaker 1: him play first week of the season, in their first start. 231 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:21,240 Speaker 1: And yeah, I'm talking a little bit about Archpanning. I 232 00:12:21,240 --> 00:12:23,160 Speaker 1: thought some of his fundamentals did break down. I thought 233 00:12:23,160 --> 00:12:26,920 Speaker 1: he did get sped up. But I was actually at 234 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:31,640 Speaker 1: Peyton Manning's first collegiate game. They played UCLA. He was 235 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: a backup. He came in off the bench and he 236 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:36,600 Speaker 1: was good. But like, let's not act like you said, 237 00:12:36,600 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 1: the world of fire, and they're playing against a really 238 00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: good Ohio State team. So but my bigger one is 239 00:12:41,559 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: again like the let's fire Kalin de boor like he's 240 00:12:45,120 --> 00:12:50,480 Speaker 1: been there for fourteen games, what are we doing? You know, 241 00:12:51,480 --> 00:12:56,040 Speaker 1: I mean, just the craziness of one game that you're 242 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: not really invested in. Not really invested. 243 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:03,040 Speaker 8: Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. 244 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 8: Catch all of our shows at foxsports Radio dot com 245 00:13:07,240 --> 00:13:11,000 Speaker 8: and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to listen live. 246 00:13:13,240 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 1: It's the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio 247 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 1: and or the only show that brings you what it's 248 00:13:19,880 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: really like inside those GM offices, what it's like on 249 00:13:24,600 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the third floor of some of these places. Right Administration 250 00:13:28,600 --> 00:13:31,760 Speaker 1: Player personnel toms Alasco joins us first weekly visit course. 251 00:13:31,840 --> 00:13:34,520 Speaker 1: For eleven years, he was the GM of the San 252 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:36,959 Speaker 1: Diego the La Churches, of course, last year the GM 253 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:39,760 Speaker 1: of the Las Vegas Raiders. He joins us here on 254 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:43,320 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app. Let me start 255 00:13:43,320 --> 00:13:47,840 Speaker 1: with the decision to trade Micah Parsons. Again, I don't 256 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,800 Speaker 1: know your level of insight into that room, but what 257 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: was your reaction to their decision to actually move him. 258 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,080 Speaker 9: I wasn't. I mean, the only thing I was surprised 259 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 9: about was the timing of it. Obviously they changed their 260 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,800 Speaker 9: mind at some point later in the process because they 261 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 9: were actively trying to sign them and they knew the 262 00:14:06,160 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 9: contract was going to be record setting and market recently contracts, 263 00:14:09,280 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 9: so they must have decided at some point to uh 264 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:16,839 Speaker 9: to change gears. It was just the timing of it, 265 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,640 Speaker 9: because at this point of the calendar there's a lot 266 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 9: of teams that would have interest in trading for him. 267 00:14:21,840 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 9: But you just you're not budgeted for a cash and 268 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 9: cap at this point of the years, so you don't 269 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:29,080 Speaker 9: have as many teams competing for compensation to make that trade. 270 00:14:29,160 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 9: So but on the surface, like look, deciding that you know, 271 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 9: we're not going to pay three players that much of 272 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,400 Speaker 9: our cap and we want to get some assets back, 273 00:14:38,400 --> 00:14:40,880 Speaker 9: and the assets I agree with this totally. It had 274 00:14:40,920 --> 00:14:42,280 Speaker 9: to be more than just picks. They had to be 275 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,200 Speaker 9: picks plus a player or players. The player that got 276 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,800 Speaker 9: back is a really good player. Now he's thirty years 277 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,800 Speaker 9: old and with his contract he may only be there 278 00:14:50,800 --> 00:14:54,120 Speaker 9: one year, but they get a frontline player back, and 279 00:14:54,160 --> 00:14:58,520 Speaker 9: then the two first round picks is good. The only 280 00:14:58,560 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 9: thing is, like you just you can't gear that you're 281 00:15:00,600 --> 00:15:02,920 Speaker 9: going to turn those two first round picks into two 282 00:15:02,920 --> 00:15:06,160 Speaker 9: starters or two Pro bowlers or even one zero all 283 00:15:06,240 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 9: Pro player. And Dallas to me is drafted very well 284 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,880 Speaker 9: over the years, so historically they've drafted well. But again, 285 00:15:11,920 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 9: you can't say they're exactly going to get two starters 286 00:15:14,200 --> 00:15:18,040 Speaker 9: from that or two Pro Bowl players, So you would 287 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:20,000 Speaker 9: like to get back. It's just hard for player of 288 00:15:20,040 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 9: Micah Parson's ability and his age, it's hard to get 289 00:15:23,600 --> 00:15:27,720 Speaker 9: back true value. But look, they decided that, you know, 290 00:15:27,760 --> 00:15:30,400 Speaker 9: we want the cat flexibility, and they were already using 291 00:15:30,440 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 9: some of it with extending dron Bland. So I like 292 00:15:32,960 --> 00:15:34,360 Speaker 9: that they're going to spend that money on their own 293 00:15:34,360 --> 00:15:36,360 Speaker 9: players and that's typically what they've done in the past. 294 00:15:36,360 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 9: I like that, And they're going to get some draft 295 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 9: picks back, so they're going to take a hit this year. 296 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:42,000 Speaker 9: They're just not going to be as good in twenty 297 00:15:42,040 --> 00:15:44,520 Speaker 9: twenty five without them. You got to hope you'h on 298 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 9: those picks, and you know, and if maybe if those 299 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 9: picks are into a franchise quarterback down the road to 300 00:15:50,040 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 9: take over for Dak, then this wall seemed like it 301 00:15:51,920 --> 00:15:52,720 Speaker 9: was a great deal. 302 00:15:54,040 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 1: What do you think led them to change their mind? 303 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:01,720 Speaker 9: I would think because this holding went for so long, 304 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:03,840 Speaker 9: like I hadn't I'd not seen a holding go this 305 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,040 Speaker 9: many weeks where you get right close to this season. 306 00:16:07,920 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 9: If they were not going to deal with the agent, 307 00:16:09,480 --> 00:16:11,800 Speaker 9: which it seems like they were not. You had two 308 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 9: paths to go. One would be you'd have to put 309 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:16,360 Speaker 9: them on a reserve suspended list because he's on the 310 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 9: active roster, and if we're on the active roster this week, 311 00:16:19,760 --> 00:16:21,360 Speaker 9: you'd be paying him to play in the game, and 312 00:16:21,440 --> 00:16:23,760 Speaker 9: the game that he's holding, he's holding out essentially and 313 00:16:23,800 --> 00:16:26,120 Speaker 9: not going to play. I don't think any GM ro 314 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,480 Speaker 9: owner wants to pay a player, you know, one eighteenth 315 00:16:28,520 --> 00:16:30,600 Speaker 9: of his base salary, which is a lot over a 316 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 9: million dollars one point three million, to pay a player 317 00:16:32,760 --> 00:16:36,119 Speaker 9: to not play. So you either have to suspend them 318 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 9: moving forward for not playing, or you have to trade them. 319 00:16:39,400 --> 00:16:41,080 Speaker 9: So they had to go one way or another at 320 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:43,680 Speaker 9: that point. So they decided to go to trade route. 321 00:16:43,880 --> 00:16:47,560 Speaker 9: And the big factor was this week, plus they opened 322 00:16:47,560 --> 00:16:49,920 Speaker 9: early to play Thursday, so they had to do something 323 00:16:49,960 --> 00:16:53,800 Speaker 9: by the beginning of last week either way, and you know, 324 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 9: they went the trade route. 325 00:16:56,000 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 1: Okay, what did you think the Packers is in the 326 00:16:57,680 --> 00:16:59,360 Speaker 1: trade for him? 327 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 9: I just think it's the right move at the right time, 328 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:06,400 Speaker 9: and they're built to do this right now. Both from 329 00:17:06,440 --> 00:17:10,160 Speaker 9: a roster standpoint, Cap and cash standpoint, they're put together 330 00:17:10,280 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 9: really well. They have a younger team, they've they've built 331 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,280 Speaker 9: through the draft. They have a lot of players on 332 00:17:15,400 --> 00:17:17,800 Speaker 9: rookie contracts, which allows them to do a move like 333 00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 9: this right now. They already had a great defense last year. 334 00:17:22,320 --> 00:17:25,639 Speaker 9: This will add to that. Now they're giving up, you know, 335 00:17:25,640 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 9: they're giving up. They're putting up a lot of assets 336 00:17:27,560 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 9: into one player, so that that there's always a flip 337 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,439 Speaker 9: side to it. So it's a record amount of cap space. 338 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 9: You know, they're losing two first round picks, which are 339 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 9: usually you know, opportunities to maybe draft an impact player 340 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 9: in the first round that you get at a blow 341 00:17:40,560 --> 00:17:43,760 Speaker 9: market value for four years. But I just think in 342 00:17:43,760 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 9: this situation that pluses that way the negatives. They had 343 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,919 Speaker 9: been searching for a number of years to find that 344 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,280 Speaker 9: impact rusher. I don't know this for sure, but it 345 00:17:52,280 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 9: seems like they've made calls on a lot of veteran 346 00:17:54,720 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 9: pass rushers that we're in that market to they were 347 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:01,240 Speaker 9: doing new deals to kind of investigate, you know, making 348 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:03,919 Speaker 9: a big trade. You know, they've drafted past rushers in 349 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 9: the first round the last couple of years. They've signed 350 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 9: free agents, but this is to me, this wasn't something 351 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 9: they just looked at a week or two go and decide, hey, 352 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:12,679 Speaker 9: let's let's try this. I think they've been trying this 353 00:18:12,720 --> 00:18:15,639 Speaker 9: for a number of years to find this impact rusher. 354 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 9: I mean, obviously all the way back to Khalil Mackman 355 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 9: to try to trade for him. So I just think, 356 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:22,919 Speaker 9: right right place a great time for this club, and 357 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:24,320 Speaker 9: they're going to be strong this year. 358 00:18:26,240 --> 00:18:29,119 Speaker 1: I remember, and tell me if I'm wrong. Didn't you 359 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,480 Speaker 1: guys do dual practices with it with the Cowboys? I 360 00:18:32,520 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: want to say two years ago with the Chargers. 361 00:18:35,600 --> 00:18:37,560 Speaker 9: We did it twice in cos of Macy. 362 00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 1: Yes, and again if I remember what you said was 363 00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: basically my cap Parsons ruined the scrimmage because you guys 364 00:18:45,440 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: can block them. 365 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:50,240 Speaker 9: It was jaw dropping, I mean it was. It's always 366 00:18:50,280 --> 00:18:52,520 Speaker 9: fun to go with the joint practice with other teams 367 00:18:52,560 --> 00:18:54,560 Speaker 9: because you're up close and personal for a couple of 368 00:18:54,600 --> 00:18:57,040 Speaker 9: days right on the practice field. Things you can't see 369 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,359 Speaker 9: when you're a GM of your own team. So to 370 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:04,680 Speaker 9: watch him practice for for a couple of days, his explosiveness, 371 00:19:04,720 --> 00:19:07,600 Speaker 9: his speed, his ability to affect the game, especially at 372 00:19:07,640 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 9: all three levels, it just it just jumped out, just 373 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:15,720 Speaker 9: jumped out in practice. So you know that's what Green 374 00:19:15,760 --> 00:19:17,159 Speaker 9: Bay is going to get them. You can line them 375 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:20,520 Speaker 9: up almost anywhere on the field, and you know, does 376 00:19:20,560 --> 00:19:24,280 Speaker 9: he play their run like an edge setting path rusher. No, 377 00:19:25,320 --> 00:19:28,439 Speaker 9: but he plays the run with it's likability explosion speed, 378 00:19:28,960 --> 00:19:32,000 Speaker 9: either chasing from behind or slipping blocks on the front side. 379 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 9: He could still play the run fine, just plays in 380 00:19:34,640 --> 00:19:36,960 Speaker 9: a different style. But again, you know you're paying him 381 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 9: to rush the passer. I'm not You're not paying a 382 00:19:39,400 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 9: player of forty five plus billion dollars a year to 383 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,760 Speaker 9: set the edge. You know, I can find edge setters 384 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:46,040 Speaker 9: for a lot cheaper than that. Paining him to rush 385 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:48,560 Speaker 9: the passer affect the game, and he's gonna affect the 386 00:19:48,560 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 9: game in a in a big way for green Bay. 387 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 1: Okay, So well, green Bay is playing the Detroit Lions 388 00:19:57,000 --> 00:19:59,760 Speaker 1: and then they play on Thursday night against the Commanders. 389 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:02,760 Speaker 1: How do you how do you evalue and the guy's 390 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 1: got a little bit of a back issue, how much 391 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: and how long do you plan? 392 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 9: That's gonna be a difficult one to handle. You just 393 00:20:11,040 --> 00:20:12,840 Speaker 9: you have to look long term. And I know you're 394 00:20:12,840 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 9: paying them a lot of money this year, you know, 395 00:20:14,560 --> 00:20:16,480 Speaker 9: so you'd like to get seventeen games out of them. 396 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,000 Speaker 9: But this is where where the GM has to really 397 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 9: come in and make really smart decisions. A lot of 398 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:23,760 Speaker 9: it's leaning on the player, and even though you're you know, 399 00:20:23,800 --> 00:20:25,960 Speaker 9: you're new to the players, you don't know his personality 400 00:20:26,080 --> 00:20:28,360 Speaker 9: that well yet, but you're leaning on the player, leaning 401 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:31,960 Speaker 9: on the doctors. My senses is back, isn't that bad. 402 00:20:32,560 --> 00:20:35,439 Speaker 9: I'm more worried about a soft tissue injury just from 403 00:20:36,000 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 9: not having a lot of high intensity reps the last 404 00:20:38,520 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 9: you know, four weeks. So if he does play, to me, 405 00:20:41,800 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 9: it's got to be package, a small pass rush package. 406 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,520 Speaker 9: But you're gonna have to be careful with this because 407 00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:50,080 Speaker 9: I know he's in shape, that's the prime issue. But 408 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,280 Speaker 9: it's just just a diff between being and conditioning and 409 00:20:53,320 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 9: being in football conditioning shape. It's two different things. So 410 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 9: I wouldn't have thirty forty plays this week, cause even 411 00:21:00,320 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 9: if you did that and he gets through, well, then 412 00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:05,120 Speaker 9: you got a short week now as much recovery time, 413 00:21:05,160 --> 00:21:06,680 Speaker 9: and now you're at a higher risk in the week 414 00:21:06,680 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 9: two of having a self fishue injury. So I think 415 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 9: they're going to be very cautious with. 416 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 1: This, I would tend to agree with you. It is 417 00:21:12,160 --> 00:21:14,240 Speaker 1: the Doug Gottlieb Show here on Fox Sports Radio. Tom 418 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:17,120 Speaker 1: Telesco is our guest, longtime general manager of the San 419 00:21:17,160 --> 00:21:20,120 Speaker 1: Diego than La Chargers, of course, most recently general manager 420 00:21:20,200 --> 00:21:23,359 Speaker 1: of the Las Vegas Raiders. He joins this year on 421 00:21:24,240 --> 00:21:29,080 Speaker 1: The Doug Gottlieb Show. Okay, so it looks it looks 422 00:21:29,320 --> 00:21:35,000 Speaker 1: like the Rams will have their quarterback right, and again, 423 00:21:35,119 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: on the surface, it's not that big a deal for 424 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:40,320 Speaker 1: the Rams because I mean, Matt Stafford never plays in 425 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:44,600 Speaker 1: the preseason. But again, the question is management. It's a 426 00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:48,560 Speaker 1: longer season than it's ever been, eighteen games they start 427 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,600 Speaker 1: on Sunday versus the Texans. How do you manage an 428 00:21:51,640 --> 00:21:54,000 Speaker 1: older corporate Again, and I'm sorry, I'm asking you a 429 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:55,639 Speaker 1: bunch of questions. But the other thing, and you and 430 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:59,280 Speaker 1: I have talked about it is older quarterbacks, especially ones 431 00:21:59,320 --> 00:22:01,479 Speaker 1: that have an injury, they have a tendency to get 432 00:22:01,560 --> 00:22:03,560 Speaker 1: rid of the ball a little a little quicker than 433 00:22:03,600 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 1: even they need to because they just don't want to 434 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:08,840 Speaker 1: get hit. So I'm one of your thoughts on Stafford 435 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,359 Speaker 1: in the Rams. 436 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 9: Yeah, I mean I think it's valid when you say, like, 437 00:22:12,800 --> 00:22:15,239 Speaker 9: he never plays in a preseason anyway, So I'm not 438 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:18,480 Speaker 9: so much concerned about him not being ready to roll. 439 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 9: With his timing and anticipation, I think I don't think 440 00:22:21,280 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 9: you'll notice anything different. But obviously with this type of injury, 441 00:22:25,280 --> 00:22:28,639 Speaker 9: at this type of age, there's just no guarantee it 442 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 9: doesn't flare up during the regular season, so they'll probably 443 00:22:32,320 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 9: have to have him. I don't know if you have 444 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:36,439 Speaker 9: to have him on a plan unless he's having some 445 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 9: back issues. It's not like a shoulder, arm issue or 446 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 9: a knee where we need to lessen the load a 447 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,760 Speaker 9: little bit. I mean, back to unpredictable. But if he 448 00:22:44,800 --> 00:22:46,920 Speaker 9: feels good, I think you keep rolling. But you know, 449 00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:49,439 Speaker 9: there could be points of the year where he's he's sore, 450 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 9: you have to pull him back during the week. He's 451 00:22:52,680 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 9: at the age of his career, especially in that offense. 452 00:22:56,000 --> 00:22:58,880 Speaker 9: If he doesn't throw every single day, I don't think 453 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,240 Speaker 9: it's going to be a huge issue, but you know, 454 00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,159 Speaker 9: there's all there's got to be a concern that it 455 00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:06,320 Speaker 9: gets worse during the season, and then you know, at 456 00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:08,000 Speaker 9: some point, do we have to go to Garoppolo and 457 00:23:08,040 --> 00:23:10,639 Speaker 9: they're already they were working on that Plan B in 458 00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:13,320 Speaker 9: the preseason. So this is going to linger the whole year, 459 00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:18,160 Speaker 9: something to watch the whole year. But I think I'm 460 00:23:18,200 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 9: not so much concerned about his level of play when 461 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:20,840 Speaker 9: he's out there. 462 00:23:23,080 --> 00:23:27,960 Speaker 1: Okay, reports on Aaron Rodgers art man he does. He 463 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,200 Speaker 1: still throws it with great zip, but he doesn't move 464 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: nearly as well. How hard is it to get a 465 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,879 Speaker 1: quarterback who's so used to moving around, uh to change 466 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:37,639 Speaker 1: kind of his style because he doesn't move like he 467 00:23:37,720 --> 00:23:38,000 Speaker 1: used to. 468 00:23:39,160 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 9: I mean, I think it would be difficult, Like if 469 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,080 Speaker 9: you know you're your one style of player, used to 470 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 9: doing it one way, and now you know that the 471 00:23:44,960 --> 00:23:48,680 Speaker 9: legs don't always agree with what you want to do. 472 00:23:48,720 --> 00:23:52,480 Speaker 9: But I do think there are some some facets of 473 00:23:52,520 --> 00:23:54,440 Speaker 9: the of the offense that Arthur Smith's runs. I think 474 00:23:54,440 --> 00:23:57,679 Speaker 9: it's going to work well with Aaron Rodgers. They'll do 475 00:23:57,760 --> 00:23:59,920 Speaker 9: a lot of play action paths. He gets the ball 476 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,440 Speaker 9: his hand quick. But I don't you know, no matter 477 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:06,159 Speaker 9: who the quarterback is there, obviously it's Aaron Rodgers. The 478 00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,119 Speaker 9: offensive line needs to play better this year. They need 479 00:24:09,160 --> 00:24:11,879 Speaker 9: to have more consistency from the tackles to make this work, 480 00:24:13,800 --> 00:24:16,399 Speaker 9: and they just really offensive to step up around him. 481 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 9: It just can't be relying on Aaron Rodgers to make 482 00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,359 Speaker 9: this thing go. And you can say that for a 483 00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:22,520 Speaker 9: lot of the situations that quarterback this year were in 484 00:24:22,560 --> 00:24:26,440 Speaker 9: different areas, you know, Indianapolis and New Orleans and Cleveland. 485 00:24:26,720 --> 00:24:29,680 Speaker 9: You know, it can't be just the quarterback. So they 486 00:24:29,680 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 9: have some good receivers. With the Steelers, they have an 487 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 9: excellent tight end group. Their offensive line, the interior three, 488 00:24:36,800 --> 00:24:38,639 Speaker 9: the guard, center, guard, I think is strong, and the 489 00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:40,920 Speaker 9: tackles have to keep improving. I mean, he's got Troy 490 00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,680 Speaker 9: font Ne who's coming off an injury his rookie years. 491 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 9: He's almost a rookie this year, so he needs to 492 00:24:46,800 --> 00:24:48,920 Speaker 9: get moving quickly. And Roderick Jones needs to take a 493 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 9: next step. But I think that's the important part is 494 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 9: their defense is up standing. I mean, their defense is 495 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:56,639 Speaker 9: really gonna hold them in the games. That's the strength 496 00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:59,199 Speaker 9: of their team. It's got to get enough scoring on 497 00:24:59,320 --> 00:25:00,960 Speaker 9: offense to to win some games. 498 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:05,880 Speaker 1: Okay, so you've done this for years and you did 499 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:10,600 Speaker 1: draft a pretty good one with the Chargers, right, What 500 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:15,120 Speaker 1: were your thoughts first going in to watching Arch take 501 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,400 Speaker 1: Arch Banning take on Ohustak going into the game. 502 00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 9: Yeah, well, I disfigured. If he played well, he's gonna 503 00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 9: be the best prospect of all time, and if he 504 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,159 Speaker 9: didn't play well, he'd be the most overrated prospect of 505 00:25:26,160 --> 00:25:28,040 Speaker 9: all time. There wasn't gonna be any in between. But 506 00:25:28,840 --> 00:25:30,680 Speaker 9: I looked at him this summer just because I wanted 507 00:25:30,680 --> 00:25:32,760 Speaker 9: to see what the hype was all about. I didn't 508 00:25:32,760 --> 00:25:34,800 Speaker 9: I know, he didn't play a ton of snaps last year. 509 00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:39,159 Speaker 9: But what I saw I liked, I thought, so I was. 510 00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,240 Speaker 9: I was surprised how he played against the Hilo State, 511 00:25:43,040 --> 00:25:46,160 Speaker 9: not necessarily concerned. And actually the first thing I thought 512 00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 9: of watching the game was like, you know, you pull 513 00:25:47,800 --> 00:25:50,720 Speaker 9: some Peyton Manning film early early in his career versus 514 00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 9: Romeo Crannell, and it wasn't pretty. Sometimes it looked it 515 00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:57,080 Speaker 9: looked the same. So but now I think Harris has 516 00:25:57,080 --> 00:25:59,479 Speaker 9: a lot of skills. I think he's a much more 517 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 9: accurate passer then he showed against Ohio State. But you know, 518 00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,680 Speaker 9: when when the coverage is not exactly what you thought 519 00:26:05,680 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 9: it was going to be, or the pressure or sometimes 520 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 9: the lack of pressure isn't what you thought was going 521 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,800 Speaker 9: to be, it really affects your timing and anticipation, and 522 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:15,400 Speaker 9: when that breaks down, your mechanics break down and ball 523 00:26:15,440 --> 00:26:18,440 Speaker 9: doesn't arrive with the accuracy. So I've seen him throw 524 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:22,680 Speaker 9: with great bass and feet and mechanics. I've seen him 525 00:26:22,680 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 9: do it before, but I think his vision on up 526 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 9: to what the defense is giving him. On that game, 527 00:26:29,400 --> 00:26:30,960 Speaker 9: it was just murky and it led him to not 528 00:26:31,000 --> 00:26:34,520 Speaker 9: being very decisive. But that defense, with the amount of 529 00:26:34,520 --> 00:26:38,439 Speaker 9: talent he played against and the scheme it was, it 530 00:26:38,480 --> 00:26:39,440 Speaker 9: was a struggle for him. 531 00:26:39,520 --> 00:26:43,720 Speaker 1: But yeah, he is a super high level defense with 532 00:26:43,720 --> 00:26:48,200 Speaker 1: with kind of taught from an NFL perspective, and it's 533 00:26:48,240 --> 00:26:51,640 Speaker 1: his first true road game as a starter at that level, right, 534 00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,639 Speaker 1: I mean, I don't like. 535 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,719 Speaker 9: Yeah, I know, I'm not. Like I said, I'm not concerned. 536 00:26:57,200 --> 00:26:59,199 Speaker 9: And with these situation, I don't know if he'll be 537 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:01,639 Speaker 9: in this draft or not. But with with all players 538 00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:04,439 Speaker 9: that you're evaluating, we take the body of work for 539 00:27:04,440 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 9: a year or multiple years, whatever it is at the 540 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 9: end and kind of put the piece that put the 541 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 9: puzzle together. It is not a weekly stock market of 542 00:27:11,920 --> 00:27:13,840 Speaker 9: up and down and now hey he's not he was 543 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 9: ranked first, now he's ranked third. It's just not how 544 00:27:15,840 --> 00:27:18,159 Speaker 9: it works, but I think he'll be better for this. 545 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,639 Speaker 9: I think moving forward, I'm not so much concerned, but 546 00:27:21,280 --> 00:27:23,320 Speaker 9: I was at surprised to the extent of how a 547 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:25,960 Speaker 9: house state really forced them to play. But it is 548 00:27:26,000 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 9: what it is. 549 00:27:26,800 --> 00:27:30,440 Speaker 1: Okay, Belichick, what were your thoughts going in to watching 550 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: with Carolina played last night? 551 00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:35,199 Speaker 9: You know, I didn't really have any preconceived notions. I 552 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 9: didn't know much about their team. You know, they have 553 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 9: a lot of new players, but I hadn't you know, 554 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,240 Speaker 9: I really hadn't studied the team very much. But you know, 555 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 9: like kind of like arch Manning, like I'd rather see 556 00:27:45,280 --> 00:27:47,160 Speaker 9: a body of work of this of this team rather 557 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:49,199 Speaker 9: than just one game to make a big proclamation. But 558 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 9: the only thing that really I took from last night 559 00:27:51,680 --> 00:27:54,520 Speaker 9: is that I thought I was less coaching and more 560 00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:56,720 Speaker 9: about players. Like I just thought their teams speed on 561 00:27:56,800 --> 00:28:00,080 Speaker 9: both sides of the ball just seemed really slow. And 562 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 9: there are some plays on defense where there were numerous 563 00:28:02,640 --> 00:28:06,960 Speaker 9: players that were free to the football and unblocked and 564 00:28:07,000 --> 00:28:10,360 Speaker 9: they just couldn't make a tackle. So I guess we'll 565 00:28:10,359 --> 00:28:12,440 Speaker 9: get a better feel for what their actual talent level 566 00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:14,440 Speaker 9: is as we moved through their schedule. I think the 567 00:28:14,800 --> 00:28:17,439 Speaker 9: floppiness on special teams and the ball handing on offense 568 00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 9: that will that will all get cleaned up as the 569 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,840 Speaker 9: season progresses. But I guess I just want to see more 570 00:28:23,920 --> 00:28:25,800 Speaker 9: this year and to see what their talent level is 571 00:28:25,800 --> 00:28:29,160 Speaker 9: because last night it just didn't seem like they were 572 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 9: they could match up just speed and athletic ability wise 573 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 9: with TCU. 574 00:28:33,240 --> 00:28:37,640 Speaker 1: Yeah, I would say this, and again I experienced some 575 00:28:37,720 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: of that last year, which is when you come in 576 00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:43,080 Speaker 1: and like, I know, Michael Lombardi's a GM, he's been 577 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:46,760 Speaker 1: on the show, he's a friend, but but if you 578 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:49,920 Speaker 1: haven't been at that level, or you haven't been in 579 00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:53,280 Speaker 1: college football, Like, it's really hard to evaluate if you 580 00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: haven't seen the league or the level that you're playing at. 581 00:28:56,240 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: Just it just is because and and evaluating high school 582 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: and college kids is different than evaluating guys for the 583 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 1: draft because their development is in a different, complete, different phase. 584 00:29:06,680 --> 00:29:10,520 Speaker 1: So my takeaway was that they're smart guys, but they 585 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:13,080 Speaker 1: learned a lot last night in terms of whatever they 586 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: thought their personnel was. Like I'm sure they were disappointed 587 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,160 Speaker 1: in some form of fashion, but ultimately my guess is 588 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: they'll figure it out. 589 00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,440 Speaker 9: I think in the end they'll figure it out. And 590 00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 9: you know, typically Belichick teams have been big and physical 591 00:29:29,000 --> 00:29:32,280 Speaker 9: and powerful teams, but not necessarily the fastest teams in 592 00:29:32,320 --> 00:29:35,320 Speaker 9: the world. And when you get to the college level 593 00:29:35,360 --> 00:29:36,880 Speaker 9: and the way the college game is played and it's 594 00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 9: so spread out, you got to make sure you have 595 00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,800 Speaker 9: team speed and maybe the half team speed there that 596 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 9: just as young. And this isn't playing yet. I don't know. 597 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,120 Speaker 9: I guess we'll get a better feel as a year 598 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,280 Speaker 9: goes on, and maybe it feels like we're going to 599 00:29:49,360 --> 00:29:51,200 Speaker 9: be big and physical, we're going to beat people up, 600 00:29:52,280 --> 00:29:53,920 Speaker 9: but you know, we need more than one game to 601 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 9: kind of see where this goes. But there were just 602 00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 9: some plays last night I just felt like they were 603 00:29:58,440 --> 00:30:00,920 Speaker 9: just the slowest team on the field that just PCU 604 00:30:00,960 --> 00:30:02,720 Speaker 9: is running circles around them. 605 00:30:03,280 --> 00:30:05,200 Speaker 1: Tilly are the best man. Good stuff. Thanks so much 606 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:06,480 Speaker 1: for joining us on Fox Sports Radio. 607 00:30:07,120 --> 00:30:08,080 Speaker 9: Sounds good. 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Dan by what 624 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: he got Doug. 625 00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:06,760 Speaker 5: A very special day today, as the calendar says September two, 626 00:31:07,360 --> 00:31:12,200 Speaker 5: and that means John Ramos is birthday today, the former 627 00:31:12,240 --> 00:31:15,800 Speaker 5: tech producer of The Doug Gottlieb Show celebrating a birthday 628 00:31:17,040 --> 00:31:24,400 Speaker 5: thirty nine for John Ramos today, Happy birthday, It's John Ramos. 629 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:26,640 Speaker 7: We're a big, big John Romo's house this point. 630 00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, Ramos has pulled off that rare thing that everybody 631 00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,360 Speaker 1: says they'll do, Like, hey, what if I just quit 632 00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:36,240 Speaker 1: my job and worked at a high school and coach 633 00:31:36,320 --> 00:31:38,880 Speaker 1: softball and did some other stuff and just because I 634 00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: want to be around my kids more and he did it. 635 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:45,320 Speaker 5: Love John of course the upstart Ramos Industries taking off 636 00:31:45,360 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 5: as well that he launched. Maybe not exactly, but John 637 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 5: has got great things coming up ahead, and we wanted 638 00:31:51,360 --> 00:31:52,600 Speaker 5: to wish him a happy birthday. 639 00:31:53,160 --> 00:31:54,240 Speaker 1: He's a birthday guy. 640 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:59,560 Speaker 5: Moving on, Doug Bill Belichick took a loss last night 641 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 5: was the topic of conversation in many places, including here 642 00:32:03,240 --> 00:32:07,719 Speaker 5: on Fox Sports Radio and also in the Northeast on 643 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 5: The Greg Hill Show. Patriots head coach Mike Vrabel was 644 00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 5: asked about last night's game featuring his former head coach. 645 00:32:15,880 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 9: Did you watch the UNC TCU game last night? 646 00:32:20,600 --> 00:32:24,000 Speaker 1: Probably? Maybe a few snaps, that's. 647 00:32:23,880 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 2: All the first half, first drives. 648 00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:37,440 Speaker 5: Beauty ended a game after the first half. 649 00:32:37,280 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 4: It would be good. 650 00:32:39,280 --> 00:32:41,200 Speaker 1: You guys seem to be excited about that. 651 00:32:41,280 --> 00:32:42,560 Speaker 7: No, no, no, I listen. 652 00:32:42,720 --> 00:32:43,080 Speaker 1: I am. 653 00:32:43,160 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 3: I'm rooting for the guy, and I think you know, 654 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:47,080 Speaker 3: I mean, you've coached in college. 655 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 5: It takes a while, don't you think to get a 656 00:32:49,240 --> 00:32:51,000 Speaker 5: program going in there like that? 657 00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:52,160 Speaker 1: I don't know. 658 00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:55,480 Speaker 3: Ebymre won twelve of the first twelve games in Ohio States, 659 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:56,480 Speaker 3: so it didn't take him long. 660 00:32:56,520 --> 00:33:01,760 Speaker 1: I'm just that's my experience in college football. Yeah. The 661 00:33:01,800 --> 00:33:05,240 Speaker 1: problem with that is, I mean that is honestly as 662 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:08,520 Speaker 1: douchey a comment as you can ever make, right, Like 663 00:33:08,640 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 1: you know exactly what happened, right, They they had to 664 00:33:11,320 --> 00:33:15,160 Speaker 1: fire Trestle. They so Luke Fickle took one for the 665 00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,840 Speaker 1: team for a year, right was what six and seven? 666 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: And Urban had an entire run up and lead up 667 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 1: to a hot States program. He's at North Carolina, He's 668 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:29,720 Speaker 1: not at Ohio State. I just obviously there's something there 669 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: where they're not boys. Just gonna point that one out. 670 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,360 Speaker 1: They're not boys. And I think Rabel's an awesome coach. 671 00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:40,680 Speaker 1: Maybe he knows something we don't, but I thought that 672 00:33:40,800 --> 00:33:41,720 Speaker 1: was the douchey remark. 673 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,480 Speaker 5: Rabel's just gonna say what he wants to say. There's 674 00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,440 Speaker 5: been a not much filter since taking over in Foxborough. 675 00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:51,960 Speaker 1: Okay, better win, Hey, better win? 676 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:54,600 Speaker 7: How about those? Was that was that a radio hit? 677 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:55,080 Speaker 1: Yeah? 678 00:33:55,360 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 7: Yeah, I thought I thought the laughter was a little 679 00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,480 Speaker 7: bit too much. I don't think that what Rabel was 680 00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,680 Speaker 7: doing or saying was that funny. Kind of reminds me 681 00:34:03,760 --> 00:34:06,000 Speaker 7: of the press room when Tom Brady would pull off 682 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:07,800 Speaker 7: one of his great jokes, just like. 683 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:08,239 Speaker 9: We drew up. 684 00:34:08,440 --> 00:34:10,799 Speaker 4: I disagree like we drew it up. 685 00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,720 Speaker 5: I think that there is there is such a conversation 686 00:34:16,960 --> 00:34:21,480 Speaker 5: about an X, and it's the X of everybody there. 687 00:34:21,520 --> 00:34:25,440 Speaker 5: And some people liked Bill Belichick, some people didn't. I 688 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 5: didn't think that there were courtesy laughs. I felt that 689 00:34:27,960 --> 00:34:31,400 Speaker 5: there were some tension laughs. 690 00:34:31,160 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 7: Ice breaking laughs. Yeah, just yeah. 691 00:34:35,160 --> 00:34:37,759 Speaker 5: They weren't sure because even Rabels said, like, I'm sure 692 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 5: you guys enjoyed it, implying that they're rooting against Bill Belichick. 693 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:46,279 Speaker 5: I just thought it was interesting. I also think it's 694 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:50,080 Speaker 5: interesting that Travis Hunter is second team cornerback but first 695 00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,600 Speaker 5: team wide receiver. On the Jaguars depth chart that was 696 00:34:53,640 --> 00:34:54,680 Speaker 5: released today. 697 00:34:56,800 --> 00:35:00,840 Speaker 1: He was He's wait, second team cornerback, team wide receiver. 698 00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:03,080 Speaker 1: That is correct, Yeah, because that's what we talked about, 699 00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:05,080 Speaker 1: was they think that he's better as a wide receiver 700 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,719 Speaker 1: than a corner, which is interesting, but second team cornerback. 701 00:35:10,120 --> 00:35:12,960 Speaker 1: Could he be a nickel? Can they find downs for him? Whatever? 702 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,200 Speaker 1: I would have thought it would have been the opposite, 703 00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,160 Speaker 1: but they've obviously identified him as they feel like he 704 00:35:17,200 --> 00:35:19,439 Speaker 1: can be an elite wide receiver, which puts a little 705 00:35:19,440 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 1: bit more pressure on Trevor Lawrence, who, at some point, 706 00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: like I just we thought Trevor Lawrence will be better 707 00:35:25,680 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: than he is. I don't think he's bad, but I 708 00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:29,240 Speaker 1: don't think he's great. 709 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,000 Speaker 5: Doug Ohio State's the new number one team in the 710 00:35:32,040 --> 00:35:34,920 Speaker 5: Ladies DPE Top twenty five College football poll. Penn State 711 00:35:35,040 --> 00:35:39,040 Speaker 5: is second, LSU third, Georgia fourth, Miami fifth, Oregon comes 712 00:35:39,080 --> 00:35:42,719 Speaker 5: in sixth, Texas now seventh, Clemson is eight, Notre Dame 713 00:35:42,800 --> 00:35:45,640 Speaker 5: drops to nine. South Carolina is ten, Florida State fourteen, 714 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 5: Alabama twenty one. 715 00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:51,400 Speaker 7: Where's Iowa? 716 00:35:51,480 --> 00:35:53,960 Speaker 1: I just think it's interesting that Alabama's not twenty one 717 00:35:54,640 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: behind a Florida State team that they had a chance 718 00:35:57,040 --> 00:36:00,440 Speaker 1: to be and they lost on the roads. Like the 719 00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,040 Speaker 1: mass overreaction. Let's see what happens after Alabama windsor next 720 00:36:04,080 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: to the beat Wisconsin and home. They go into the 721 00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:09,200 Speaker 1: Georgia game after week off, we'll see. I think I 722 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:11,279 Speaker 1: thought their offensive line got outplayed. That was the big 723 00:36:11,360 --> 00:36:15,879 Speaker 1: change routine the saban Era and what we saw against Flora's. 724 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:19,040 Speaker 5: Tate Sam asked the important question of where is Iowa 725 00:36:19,239 --> 00:36:20,120 Speaker 5: in this ranking. 726 00:36:20,360 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 1: Where's Iowa. It's west of Illinois, south of Minnesota, north 727 00:36:27,480 --> 00:36:28,400 Speaker 1: of Nebraska. 728 00:36:28,520 --> 00:36:31,400 Speaker 5: Top twenty five. They also didn't receive any votes. They 729 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:34,600 Speaker 5: didn't the coaches poll. I think something like that anyway. 730 00:36:35,040 --> 00:36:38,640 Speaker 5: And that's yeah, they received twenty three in the coaches poll. 731 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:40,200 Speaker 5: That's the press. 732 00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,840 Speaker 1: Stug Gottlip Show here on Fox Portray Download the podcast. 733 00:36:42,880 --> 00:36:44,879 Speaker 1: Think you'll like it. Okay, we get closer and close 734 00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:46,240 Speaker 1: to the NFL season starting tomorrow.