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Speaker 1: The NFL never sleeps.

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Speaker 2: He's gonna watchdown field picked off by the Colts.

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Speaker 1: This is the last Word, the offseason home of the

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Speaker 3: Pick us on its way header, put the up parts, NFTs.

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Speaker 1: Call twin ball game. Now here's Matt Taylor and Casey Valier.

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Speaker 4: Well, here we go the final time.

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Speaker 2: Here at the twenty twenty six NFL Scouting Combine, live.

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Speaker 4: At the Indiana Convention Center.

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Speaker 2: It is time for the Last Word, the off season

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Speaker 2: radio home of the Indianapolis Colts, airing inside the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Union Construction Industry Radio Studios. As I mentioned on the

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Speaker 2: road at the Indiana Convention Center, as we have been

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Speaker 2: down at the NFL Combine all week. I'm Casey Valier

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Speaker 2: joined by Matt Taylor and Matt we got a lot

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Speaker 2: you know, Chris Ballard, Shane Steiken spoke with the media.

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Speaker 4: We had all kinds of you know.

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Speaker 2: I like to claim them as experts who you know,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna hear from Daniel Jeremiah. He's definitely one of

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Speaker 2: But there was also some other news regarding Anthony Richardson

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Speaker 3: Well, first of all, I mean, no matter how you

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Speaker 2: I do have to say I thought that the way

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Speaker 2: And that's one thing that you know, we all want

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Speaker 3: How many different balls are you juggling this week here

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Speaker 6: Well, right now is a big media day, you guys

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Speaker 7: We have our former interviews.

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Speaker 6: With the players, the workouts, and we go through that

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Speaker 7: It's all football.

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Speaker 8: You know, Coach, when you look at it from the

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I've never really dove into this in depth, but

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Speaker 7: Well, you know you had two downs in.

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Speaker 3: It, no doubt about it. Shane Stike in with us

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Speaker 6: Well, I mean, as we know, just from a fans

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Speaker 6: Yeah, for sure. You know, I'm excited about our defense

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Speaker 7: For our defense.

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Speaker 6: But excited about our defense obviously Law too, he's coming on.

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Speaker 8: You know, when you look back at that and I

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Speaker 7: Yeah, no doubt.

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Speaker 6: I think those that's that's kind of like our off

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Speaker 3: Coach, last couple of things because I know you got

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Speaker 6: No, I I obviously, you know, when the season completely

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Speaker 3: I mean, do you do you how do you balance

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Speaker 5: Yeah?

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Speaker 6: But I think as a coach too, you got to

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Speaker 7: How are we gonna win these tight games?

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Speaker 5: I'm going forward, no doubt about it.

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Speaker 3: excited about that. But the Colts looking to make Hay

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Speaker 4: Pretty cool to have that come out.

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Speaker 3: did talk to him before the news came out on

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Speaker 3: Anthony Richardson and the report there that the Colts are

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Speaker 3: giving him permission to seek a trade, so obviously we

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Speaker 3: didn't dive, you know, headfirst into that. But it's always

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Speaker 3: good in terms of the access down here. And he's

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Speaker 3: got a busy day, got a busy week, so for

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Speaker 3: him to give us you know whatever that was, you know,

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Speaker 3: ten minutes, it's it's.

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Speaker 5: Pretty cool and we appreciate that. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, a big shout out to you know, Matt Conti

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Speaker 2: and all the PR staff being able to get us

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Speaker 2: all at access.

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Speaker 3: Some people call him Connie Connie, Yeah, kay, Connie.

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Speaker 2: Well, it is time for the MJ Companies Rookie Report

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Speaker 2: brought to you by MJ Companies. The previous two shows,

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Speaker 2: we've talked about, you know, those early round picks from

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Speaker 2: last year, Tyler Warren, j T Twoey Molowaw, Justin Wally.

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Speaker 2: We didn't see much of him because he hurt that

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Speaker 2: ACL in camp. But it's time to talk about the

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Speaker 2: fourth rounder the Colts had in April, and I thought

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Speaker 2: he really shined late in the year. That's offensive lineman

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Speaker 2: Jalen Travis out of Iowa State. Appeared in all seventeen

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Speaker 2: games as a rookie, but he started those final four,

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Speaker 2: including three at right tackle. So when you look at

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Speaker 2: what Jalen Travis did as a rookie, does he he

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Speaker 2: show you what it did. He could have what it

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Speaker 2: takes to be a full time starter.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I thought he did.

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Speaker 3: I mean, as you said, you know, Braden Smith was

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Speaker 3: concussed and out of the lineup the last four games

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Speaker 3: of the season on injured reserves. So Jalen Travis, I thought,

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Speaker 3: did a nice job in the sense that you didn't

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Speaker 3: notice them. And that's the litmus test for any young

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Speaker 3: you know, offensive lineman. If you're not talking about him,

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Speaker 3: it means you're holding up and doing your job and

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Speaker 3: protecting pretty well up front. I mean, just from a

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Speaker 3: measurement standpoint, he's got everything you.

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Speaker 5: Need to be really good.

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Speaker 3: Huge along the offensive line, six foot eight three thirty

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Speaker 3: nine thirty five inch arms. You know, I call guys

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Speaker 3: like that, you know, the human eclipse blocking out the sun.

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Speaker 3: But yeah, I mean seriously though, I mean, the Colts

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Speaker 3: do have a tough decision to make on Rayden Smith.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's it's a tough reality when you're thinking

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Speaker 3: about long term, what do we do for a guy

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Speaker 3: that's been so good for us and that has meant

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Speaker 3: so much for our success and has started over one

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Speaker 3: hundred games for us at that one position at right

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Speaker 3: tackle since twenty eighteen. But that's the NFL is It's

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Speaker 3: it's a string or a series of tough decisions you

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Speaker 3: have to make on players and roster construction. So hypothetically,

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Speaker 3: is Jalen Travis good enough? Does he have the potential

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Speaker 3: to be a mainstay long term right tackle?

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Speaker 5: I think he does absolutely.

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Speaker 2: And you talk about the Braiden Smith thing and that

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Speaker 2: I think this would apply to most offensive linemen. You

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Speaker 2: could agree with this or disagree, but I think offensive lineman.

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Speaker 2: You don't appreciate them when they're here, you more appreciate

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Speaker 2: them when they're not. I think Braiden Smith whenever that

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Speaker 2: time comes, he's gonna be that guy that you're gonna

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Speaker 2: appreciate what he has done for this team for the

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Speaker 2: last handful of years because he has been a mainstay

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Speaker 2: at right tackle.

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Speaker 5: What's that old eighties ballad hairband song? You don't know what?

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Speaker 4: You can't till let's go.

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Speaker 5: Who is as that winger or something like that?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Cinderella, JMV somewhe hyan something he's screaming.

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Speaker 5: At the radio right now. How do you guys not

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Speaker 5: know this exactly?

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Speaker 2: But that that is something that we're definitely gonna monitor because,

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Speaker 2: as you said, Braiden Smith is a free agent, and

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Speaker 2: we did see some really good stuff out of Jalen Travis.

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Speaker 4: All day.

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Speaker 3: Now allay, here we go, way to go and it

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Speaker 3: just takes it just took Braden Smith to bring it out.

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Speaker 5: Well, there you go.

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Speaker 2: Our rookie update presented by MJ Companies, Your Future in Focus.

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Speaker 2: When we come back, we're gonna hear from lead NFL

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Speaker 2: draft analysts from NFL Network, Daniel Jeremiah. The Colts don't

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Speaker 2: have a first round pick because of the trade with

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Speaker 2: Sauce Garner this past year, but Jeremiah is gonna tell

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Speaker 2: us why Sauce Garner is better than any of the

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Speaker 2: players the Colts or any other team could draft in

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Speaker 2: the first round. Coming up here in April. That's all

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Speaker 2: when we return right here on the Last Word on

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Speaker 2: ninety three five and one oh seven five The Fan.

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Speaker 1: We now returned to the offseason home of the Colts,

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Speaker 1: The Last Word with Matt Taylor and Casey Velly from

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Speaker 1: the Indiana Union Construction Industry Radio Studio.

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Speaker 2: Back here on the Last Word ninety three five, one

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Speaker 2: oh seven five The Fan, we are live here at

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Speaker 2: the twenty twenty six NFL Scouting Combine at the Indiana

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Speaker 2: Convention Center with Matt Taylor. I'm Casey Valier, and earlier

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Speaker 2: this week, Matt had a chance to sit down with

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Speaker 2: Daniel Jeremiah, the lead NFL draft analyst for NFL Network

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Speaker 2: here at the combine.

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Speaker 4: And here's that conversation.

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Speaker 3: Joining us now Daniel Jeremiah from the NFL Network, the

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Speaker 3: lead draft analyst there see him and hear them on

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Speaker 3: the move the Sticks Podcast. Daniel, Welcome back to Indianapolis

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Speaker 3: for the combine. Where does the combined rank for you

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Speaker 3: in terms of professional and personal enjoyment when it comes

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Speaker 3: to your draft process.

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Speaker 9: Well, if you can combine you know, almost all your

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Speaker 9: friends in this world and then football, it's a pretty

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Speaker 9: good combination. You know, it's equal parts convention and then

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Speaker 9: a real useful scouting opportunity. So I've always enjoyed this

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Speaker 9: going back, I think my first one was before I

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Speaker 9: even got hired, when I was working for the Ravens.

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Speaker 7: So this my first com I think was two. So

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Speaker 7: it's been uh, more than a lot, it's been a lot.

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Speaker 7: It's changed a little bit.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, a few more people here.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: I remember walking down the hallway and seeing it was

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Speaker 9: John Clayton and and maybe it might have been Chris Mortenson.

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Speaker 9: That was the media that was there for the combine.

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Speaker 5: That was it. Well, let's get right into it.

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Speaker 3: For the Colts, obviously a disappointing finish to the season.

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Speaker 3: But they started so great eight and two, but then

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Speaker 3: they lost their last seven games of the year. So

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Speaker 3: from a big picture standpoint for them going into this draft,

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Speaker 3: who are the Colts for you? Are they more like

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Speaker 3: the eight and two team that went big for the

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Speaker 3: Sauce Gardener trade or are they the team that lost

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Speaker 3: their last seven games to really good teams when they

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Speaker 3: were banged up.

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Speaker 9: I think you get the quarterback back, you know, if

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Speaker 9: you can figure out a way to get Daniel Jones

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Speaker 9: and the contract done there and get him, you know,

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Speaker 9: healthy and back in the in the mix. And it

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Speaker 9: sounds like Alec Pierce hopefully is not going anywhere either.

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Speaker 9: I think it it's more that early version of the

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Speaker 9: Colts that we saw, which is, you know, a team

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Speaker 9: that's got some real physicality obviously you know, elite elite

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Speaker 9: running back to go along with it. Sure, I think

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Speaker 9: that's I think that's our identiy. I don't think that

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Speaker 9: was fake. I don't think there was anything about that

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Speaker 9: where you're sitting there watching that team on tape and

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Speaker 9: going this is fluky, you're fake. It felt very real.

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Speaker 3: What was it about Daniel Jones that seemed to really

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Speaker 3: work on tape. When it came to meshing with Shane

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Speaker 3: Steichen in this.

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Speaker 9: Offense, I think a couple of things. I think number one,

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Speaker 9: just playing with conviction. I think Sane did a great

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Speaker 9: job of infusing him with some confidence. So take all

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Speaker 9: the x's and o's, you know, to the side. I

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Speaker 9: just thought you saw somebody who played just you know,

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Speaker 9: trust in his eyes. I always talk about trust your eyes,

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Speaker 9: trust your guys, like play fast, you know, playing on time.

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Speaker 9: I thought Daniel Jones did a wonderful job of that.

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Speaker 9: And I give Shane a lot of credit because that

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Speaker 9: ability is not different. That's the same ability he's always had.

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Speaker 9: But I think he just infused him with so much

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Speaker 9: confidence and to see it and let it rip.

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Speaker 3: I know we're going to get into the draft here

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Speaker 3: in just a second. But for your eyes and your money,

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Speaker 3: what's the biggest thing holding the Colts back to really

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Speaker 3: breaking through? In twenty twenty six they missed the playoffs

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Speaker 3: Now five years in a row. In four of those

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Speaker 3: five years they've won at least eight games, right, So

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Speaker 3: it's a good roster that's right there. How can they

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Speaker 3: break through?

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Speaker 9: Well, you know, you think about a team that's not

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Speaker 9: finishing well, and whether that's games or seasons, sure, to me,

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Speaker 9: it's having closers. And for me, pass rushers in the

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Speaker 9: National Football League are closers. So getting you know a

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Speaker 9: little bit a little bit better in that room, specifically,

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Speaker 9: more talent, more depth, and it's not even just you know,

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Speaker 9: one impact guy here or there. They've got some good

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Speaker 9: players in that front, but it's having waves. We've seen

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Speaker 9: over the last two years the team's win the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 9: I mean, the Philadelphi Eagles does not have a ten

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Speaker 9: sack player, but they had eight guys that they rolled

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Speaker 9: through last year. This last year, Seattle to not have

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Speaker 9: a ten sack player, they had waves of guys. So

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Speaker 9: it's just continued to pour into that depth. You know,

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Speaker 9: they've got some free agents there that could be exiting,

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Speaker 9: so to replenish that group up front would be a

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Speaker 9: good place to stop.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no doubt about it. I mean, you just hit

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Speaker 3: the nail right in the head. There three defensive ends

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Speaker 3: who were all free agents, Quitty pay and Taekwon Lewis

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Speaker 3: and Samson Ebukom. But they don't have that first round pick,

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Speaker 3: right They gave that up to Sauce Gardner. So, who

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Speaker 3: are some guys that you're targeting in the second round

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Speaker 3: or third round that might be there, because I know

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Speaker 3: you're really high on the depth of this draft class

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Speaker 3: at defensive end. So who might be some guys that

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Speaker 3: the Colts could target it to maybe add some supplemental

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Speaker 3: depth to that pass rush for next season.

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Speaker 9: Well, I'm all about efficiency. So you can just take

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Speaker 9: one plane trip to ann Arbor, Michigan. I got two

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Speaker 9: guys there and Borrom and Moore who are both Day

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Speaker 9: two type pass rushers, So that'd be a good place

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Speaker 9: to start. Guys who play, you know, have got real

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Speaker 9: twitch and juice and burst coming off the edge. Akis

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Speaker 9: from Illinois another one plays really really hard, going to

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Speaker 9: be in that day two conversation. I love our Mason Thomas.

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Speaker 9: You know, we'll see. I think he's got a chance

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Speaker 9: to get into one. He could potentially get into the

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Speaker 9: back of one. You know, there's an outside shot he

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Speaker 9: could be there in a second round. So it's a

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Speaker 9: good group of guys.

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Speaker 3: Like I said, you've been doing this for a long time.

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Speaker 3: A couple of years ago.

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Speaker 7: JT.

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Speaker 3: Tuamolawaw picked up by the Colts actually in fact last

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Speaker 3: year and then two years ago, it's laatu latu. Where

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Speaker 3: are you with those guys in terms of their development

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Speaker 3: at that position, because as of right now, they're one

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Speaker 3: of the very few guys that are still under contract

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Speaker 3: for this team at that position.

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Speaker 9: Well, JT was just blocked, you know, so he didn't

657
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Speaker 9: get a chance to get in front of them. Yeah,

658
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Speaker 9: so I'm anxious to see him get a full opportunity

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Speaker 9: and see what he can do. I think there's a

660
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Speaker 9: chance for him to be a good player. A lot

661
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Speaker 9: two shown you the flashes of what he's capable of.

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Speaker 9: So I think what those two guys are best football

663
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Speaker 9: is definitely ahead of them. I think they again, this

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Speaker 9: is you know, not okay, we've got to upgrade over

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Speaker 9: this one or that one.

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Speaker 7: It's just you need more. You just need more waves

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Speaker 7: of guys.

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Speaker 9: And I think those guys take maybe a little bit

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Speaker 9: more of a rep share, at least in JT getting

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Speaker 9: more of a rep share than what he's had and

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Speaker 9: then having more guys to roll through with them.

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Speaker 3: All Right, we've talked about defensive end. What other position

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Speaker 3: groups of need are you maybe targeting for the Colts

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Speaker 3: to emphasize in this draft.

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Speaker 9: Well, I think continue to beef up that receiver group.

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Speaker 9: You know, we'll see what happens. You know, Pittman long

677
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Speaker 9: term part of the plans there, you know, Alex Pearce,

678
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Speaker 9: is this a one year thing or is this something

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Speaker 9: that they're able to come to terms and get a

680
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Speaker 9: longer term deal done. There's there's good pieces there, but

681
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Speaker 9: I think you can continue to add more firepower. I

682
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Speaker 9: think that's you know, that's out there. You can look

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Speaker 9: along the you know, in the interior of the offensive lines,

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Speaker 9: another direction that you could go. So you know, there's

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Speaker 9: there's opportunities for them on the offensive side of the ball.

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Speaker 7: Just continue to give Daniel Jones a better shot at it.

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Speaker 3: So at the end of the season, Chris Ballard says, hey, defensively,

688
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Speaker 3: we might need to make some tweaks. We might need

689
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Speaker 3: to prioritize youth and speed. Yeah, where is that within

690
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Speaker 3: this defense for the Colts? Is that first level? Is

691
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Speaker 3: it second level? We know in the back end they

692
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Speaker 3: spent some money there last offseason and prioritize that with

693
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Speaker 3: cam bydam and Charvarius Ward. Then at the deadline here

694
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Speaker 3: comes Sauce Gardner. But what specifically within this defense might

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Speaker 3: need to be tweaked for the Colts.

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Speaker 9: Well, to me, I look at the front seven, you know,

697
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Speaker 9: and I think there's I almost include the nickel corner

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Speaker 9: in there as well, you know, and they've had good

699
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Speaker 9: nickel corner play there with the Colts over the last

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Speaker 9: fifteen years. It seems like they've always had guys they

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Speaker 9: can roll through that spot. But to me, that's where

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Speaker 9: the speed is, especially when you get to that second

703
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Speaker 9: level of the defense, guys who can really on flow,

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Speaker 9: you know, from the nickel to the two off the

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Speaker 9: ball linebackers.

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Speaker 7: That's a that's a good place to go.

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Speaker 3: And Jermaine Pratt too is a he's a free agent

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00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 3: as well. At the linebackers. But what about linebacker depth

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Speaker 3: in this draft class? Is that a position worthy of

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Speaker 3: being drafted that high for the Colts?

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Speaker 5: Maybe round two, round three.

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Speaker 7: I think the day two is a sweet spot. You know.

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Speaker 9: You look at Kyle Lewis from pitt who can really

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Speaker 9: really run. He's gonna go somewhere on day number two.

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Speaker 9: You know, I'm curious to see what some of these

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Speaker 9: guys run. Like Heinike from from Oklahoma is a good player,

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Speaker 9: you know, So lacrosse player at Ohio State.

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Speaker 7: What does he end up running? But he's a good

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Speaker 7: football player.

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Speaker 9: Rodriguez the same thing, like, how are those guys gonna,

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Speaker 9: you know, really really run? So interesting? It'll the combine

722
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Speaker 9: is big for corners. I always said that's the most

723
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Speaker 9: important position in terms of what we get out of

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Speaker 9: this week. Just seeing how those guys run, it's it's

725
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Speaker 9: the most important, you know position in terms of speed

726
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Speaker 9: being a requirement. But I think off the ball linebackers

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Speaker 9: right there with it.

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Speaker 3: Also within this defense, I mean Grover Stewart and DeForest Buckner,

729
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Speaker 3: those are two guys still getting it done right. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: Defoe's coming off a little bit of the neck, but

731
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Speaker 3: they're north of thirty. What about d defensive tackle in

732
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Speaker 3: this draft? If the Colts want to look there where

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Speaker 3: and who? Knowing they don't have the first round pick.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, look, I love Lee Hunter. I'm probably higher on

735
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Speaker 9: Lee Hunter than a lot of folks. Most teams have

736
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Speaker 9: him as a second round player. I have him as

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Speaker 9: like my twenty seventh players somewhere in there. But we've

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Speaker 9: seen defensive tackles drift a little bit in the draft

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Speaker 9: at times, So that would be my home run pick.

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Speaker 9: If somehow he were to be there when they pick

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Speaker 9: in the second round. Then there's a whole host of

742
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Speaker 9: guys I like in the third round range, you know,

743
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Speaker 9: like Dominic Guarins from from Iowa State. It's a good player.

744
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Speaker 9: Rayshawn Benny from Michigan is a good player. There's a

745
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:34,000
Speaker 9: nice clump of those guys in that group.

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Speaker 3: I do want to double back to, you know, the

747
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Speaker 3: Colts not having that first round pick, and at the time,

748
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Speaker 3: I don't know how you felt, but I personally love

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Speaker 3: the trade for Sauce Gardner.

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Speaker 5: I love what it.

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Speaker 3: I love the player, they got the premium position that

752
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Speaker 3: Sauce plays, But it also sent a message to the Colts.

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Speaker 5: Like we're going for it.

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Speaker 3: We're eight and two, right, we haven't made the playoffs

755
00:30:53,760 --> 00:30:56,280
Speaker 3: at that point, you know, four straight years. I just

756
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: love the message that it's sent. But I think, you know,

757
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Speaker 3: some Colts fans look and to say, that's a lot

758
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Speaker 3: to give up for one player. Plus he got hurt,

759
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Speaker 3: so the immediate dividends weren't right there for Sauce Gardener.

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Speaker 3: Plus the Colts miss out on the playoffs. I don't

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Speaker 3: what I don't want Colts fans to do is wake

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Speaker 3: up Friday morning of draft weekend, after the Thursday night

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Speaker 3: first round, they say, yeah, we could have got this

764
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Speaker 3: guy or this guy was available, But they also wake

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Speaker 3: up knowing he Sauce Gardner's coming back and he's going

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Speaker 3: to be on our team under contract for the next

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Speaker 3: couple of years. Just talk Colts fans off the ledge

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Speaker 3: that like trading for a premium player at a premium

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Speaker 3: spot that has proven Sunday experience is probably, in my opinion,

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Speaker 3: the right thing to do over any prospect that could

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Speaker 3: have been available for the Colts at a position of

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Speaker 3: needing the first round.

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Speaker 9: Well, Sauce Gardner's better than any corner in this draft,

774
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Speaker 9: so you got to start there.

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Speaker 7: He'll be the number one corner in.

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Speaker 9: This draft class. He's got rare physical traits. It's hard

777
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Speaker 9: to find corners that are that big and that long.

778
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,720
Speaker 9: His makeups off the charts. He's a great teammate and

779
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Speaker 9: a great dude. So you're comfortable with paying him. You

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Speaker 9: know what you're paying him. So there's there's a lot

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Speaker 9: of things I love about Sauce Gardener. Yes, it was

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Speaker 9: expensive cost in terms of the draft picks, but I

783
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Speaker 9: would just say if you look at any team that's

784
00:32:06,680 --> 00:32:09,480
Speaker 9: won a Super Bowl. There's bold moves along the way.

785
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Speaker 9: You don't get there. You know, there's thirty two teams

786
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Speaker 9: in a competitive league with competitive balance. You did the

787
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Speaker 9: same thing all thirty two teams do. You're not going

788
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Speaker 9: to get to the top. You've got to take your shots.

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Speaker 9: And so I don't ever fault anybody for.

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Speaker 3: He's better now than any prospect in the first round.

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Speaker 7: I have a higher grade on Sauce Gardner coming in

792
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Speaker 7: the draft, not doing anybody in this draft.

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Speaker 5: Now, there you go, there you go. All right. Lastly,

794
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Speaker 5: I know you got to run.

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Speaker 3: You got to schedule to keep Give me your top

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Speaker 3: three things about Indianapolis hosting the combine.

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Speaker 9: Oh gosh. I love the fact that I can stay indoors.

798
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:41,440
Speaker 9: I don't have to put a jacket on, even if

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Speaker 9: it's freezing out.

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Speaker 7: One.

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Speaker 5: I ate and flurrying right now as we speak.

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Speaker 7: That's fantastic.

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Speaker 9: Tons of food options, yeah, great restaurants down here. And

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Speaker 9: then I would say third and the most underrated is

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Speaker 9: everybody's so nice.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, it's very hospitable.

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Speaker 5: I appreciate you saying that we.

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Speaker 9: Don't have the cheerleading convention. We don't have the plumbing convention.

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Speaker 9: It makes to see who's coming this week, but looking forward.

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Speaker 3: To that, you know someone, Yes, for sure. Daniel Jeremiah

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Speaker 3: from NFL Network appreciate your.

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Speaker 4: Textbuddy, appreciate it well.

813
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Speaker 2: Great stuff there, Daniel Jeremiah, lead NFL Draft analyst for

814
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Speaker 2: NFL Network, and I think he brings up a great point.

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Speaker 2: You don't have a first round pick, but I think

816
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Speaker 2: Friday morning, you wake up and you have sauce Gardner

817
00:33:14,800 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 2: that's better than anybody else you're gonna get in.

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Speaker 5: This draft for sure.

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Speaker 3: I mean, and again we should preface that we talked

820
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Speaker 3: with with Daniel earlier this week before the reported news

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Speaker 3: about Anthony Richardson and the Colts giving him permission to

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Speaker 3: seek a trade. So we didn't go down that route

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Speaker 3: just because of the chronology of things, if you will.

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Speaker 3: But that's how I viewed the sauce gardener trade when

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Speaker 3: it happened back in November, right two days before the

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Speaker 3: Colts topped on a plane to go to Germany, a

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Speaker 3: known commodity. Yeah, I remember saying, give me proven production

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Speaker 3: on Sundays anytime over you know anything, you're gonna possibly

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Speaker 3: get one day out of a prospect, because that's what

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Speaker 3: they are. Prospects are guesses, they are projections. When it

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Speaker 3: comes to Sauce Gardener, this is a premium player that

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Speaker 3: plays a premium position and his done it at an

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Speaker 3: incredible twice And within this defense under lou An Rumo,

834
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Speaker 3: we always say it's got to be back to front.

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00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 3: You have to have experience and shut down ability in

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Speaker 3: the secondary in order for it to really hum and

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Speaker 3: really work. And so Colts fans, you wake up on

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00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,000
Speaker 3: Friday morning of the draft, and I know you're kind

839
00:34:18,000 --> 00:34:20,279
Speaker 3: of disappointed that you're not involved in the hype and

840
00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,960
Speaker 3: the hooplah and the anticipation of drafting somebody in the

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Speaker 3: first round. But waking up and seeing Sauce Gardener wearing

842
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: number one on Colts dot Com on the depth chart,

843
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Speaker 3: I think you came out ahead pretty good.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, that is definitely he is better than any player

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00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,440
Speaker 2: that Colts any draft, any player, and we and we

846
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Speaker 2: have been I mean, that is one of the questions

847
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:40,440
Speaker 2: We've asked a lot of people here at the combine

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Speaker 2: Sauce Gardner, is there is there a Sauce Gardener in

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Speaker 2: this draft, And everybody has said no, there is not.

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Speaker 2: So if Sauce Gardner was in this draft, he would

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Speaker 2: either best be the best player in the first round.

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Speaker 2: So that is something that you can definitely, as you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: when you wake up Friday morning, you can be happy

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Speaker 2: as a Colts fan that Sauce Gardner is on your team.

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Speaker 2: Credit Union Question of the Week, Matt Taylor season Alec Pierce.

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Speaker 2: He totaled one thousand and three receiving yards on just

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Speaker 2: forty seven receptions. That's pretty good, becoming the third player

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Speaker 2: in the last thirty years to have one thousand yards

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Speaker 2: on fifty or fewer receptions. Can you name the other

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Speaker 2: two players?

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Speaker 5: Wait to do it? Hit it with him in one

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Speaker 5: more time?

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Speaker 2: Why now he is just the third player in the

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Speaker 2: last thirty seasons to have one thousand yards on fifty

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Speaker 2: or fewer receptions. Can you name the other two players?

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Speaker 5: Oh man? So explosive ability.

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Speaker 4: Explosive ability, that's the key.

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Speaker 5: I mean, I think I've seen this. I don't know

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Speaker 5: if it was this stat.

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Speaker 3: I don't know if it was this exact stat, but

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Speaker 3: I mean I've seen Alec peers in context in terms

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Speaker 3: of yards per catch be compared to DeShawn Jackson.

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Speaker 5: Good job, well done. That is one of them.

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Speaker 2: I have no idea that the other one is Mike Williams,

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Speaker 2: the Chargers receiver in twenty nineteen Big play, Mike Billy.

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Speaker 4: Mike Williams.

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Speaker 2: So yeah, Mike Williams, Deshaun Jackson, and Alec Pierce the

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Speaker 2: last three that have done that in the last thirty season.

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Speaker 3: Now, while we're on the subject of Alec Pierce, I

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Speaker 3: did see this the other day and I've got this

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Speaker 3: in my notes, but I didn't update it from the

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Speaker 3: end of the twenty twenty five seasons.

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Speaker 5: So I've done the math.

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Speaker 3: So we know that Alec Pierce, as you said, has

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Speaker 3: led the NFL and yards per catch in each.

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Speaker 5: Of the last two seasons. Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: But last year he also drew one hundred and forty

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Speaker 3: seven yards of pass interference penalties. Wow a season ago.

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Speaker 3: So I've always said that pass interference cardage should be

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Speaker 3: given to the receiver who draws it. I don't know

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Speaker 3: why that's not attributed to the receiver. Alec Pierce. Casey

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Speaker 3: Valier has drawn twenty pass interference penalties in the last

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Speaker 3: three seasons, so since twenty twenty three, Alec Pierce has

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Speaker 3: induced or drawn twenty pass interference penalties from opposing defense. Wow,

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Speaker 3: that's how I mean. That's that hidden yardage one. It's

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Speaker 3: not going to show up in the box score.

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Speaker 5: Right.

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Speaker 3: A forty yard bomb or attempt down the sideline where

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Speaker 3: someone pushes or boxes Alec Pierce out down to the

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Speaker 3: five yard line part of the game that got the

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Speaker 3: Colts into scoring position.

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Speaker 2: And that's what we always talk about with making opposing

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Speaker 2: defensive coordinators stay up at night. And those numbers right there, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: that is exactly what that does.

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Speaker 3: Another reason why you think hard and fast about, you know,

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Speaker 3: letting Alec Pierce out the door exactly.

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Speaker 2: He is definitely a proven commodity. We talked about that,

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Speaker 2: but he's a guy that you really want to have

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Speaker 2: back when you look at this Colts team here in

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Speaker 2: twenty twenty six. That is the Forum credit Union Question

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Speaker 2: helping members live their financial dreams. As we close it out, here, Matt,

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Speaker 2: I've got to say, Indianapolis, Bravo, did it again? You

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Speaker 2: killed it again one or time in NFL. Can you

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Speaker 2: please just listen to me as I say it, Let's

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Speaker 2: stop flirting with other cities. Indianapolis knows exactly how to

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Speaker 2: do the combine.

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Speaker 4: Let's just leave it here.

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Speaker 2: As every single person we talk to, they say the

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Speaker 2: same exact thing.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean, from your lips to Roger Goodell's ears.

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Speaker 4: There you go.

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Speaker 3: I don't think the metaphor I used, or the analogy was.

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Speaker 3: It's like the little brother always having to convince the

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Speaker 3: big brother that he's cool enough to hang out with

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Speaker 3: the big brother's friends.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 3: Indianapolis has done that time and time again. So now

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Speaker 3: the older brother's friends consider the little brother just part

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Speaker 3: of the group.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

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Speaker 2: Well, that is It's been a fun week for us

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Speaker 2: here at the twenty twenty six NFL Scouting Combine.

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Speaker 4: We've been live at the Indiana Convention Center.

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Speaker 2: We're back inside the normal Indiana Union Construction Industry. Radio

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Speaker 2: studios coming up next week. But for Matt Taylor, I'm

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Speaker 2: Casey Value. This has been the last word. ESPN Radio

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Speaker 2: is up next right here on ninety three five and

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Speaker 2: one oh seven five.

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Speaker 7: The fans down.

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Speaker 2: George always did shoulders so just like that girl together

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Speaker 2: Throw's house.

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Speaker 9: And then in those stuff you never drew it, like

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Speaker 9: no no no no