WEBVTT - Three Innovations We Need Right Now

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<v Speaker 1>Brought to you by the reinvented two thousand twelve camera.

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<v Speaker 1>It's ready. Are you welcome to stuff you should know

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<v Speaker 1>from house Stuff Works dot com? Hey, and welcome to

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<v Speaker 1>the podcast. I'm Josh Clark. With me is Chuck Bryant

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<v Speaker 1>with his beautiful juke brug. It's still beautiful. Yeah, So Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>how you doing? Uh? Well? So are you? I'm pretty good?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm pretty good into everyone out there listening. If it

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<v Speaker 1>sound like I'm talking a little fast, that is because

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck literally has a stopwatch here to keep you from

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<v Speaker 1>talking to what's in this podcast? I kid you not. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>in a cat of Mine tales. Yeah, we could very easily.

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<v Speaker 1>I shouldn't say we, I could very easily traps into

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<v Speaker 1>I guess long windedness as a euphemism I should use yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Chuck says, yeah, he's his head um, and so to

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<v Speaker 1>combat that, Chuck has the stopwatch. So, Chuck, let's talk

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<v Speaker 1>about some innovations that we need and why look at

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<v Speaker 1>you so proud? Uh? Yeah, Josh? You know there are

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<v Speaker 1>the world is in trouble in some ways, and big

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<v Speaker 1>innovations and big innovators come along and correct things and

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<v Speaker 1>change all that and that's what we need, buddy, we

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<v Speaker 1>can We've named three here, there are many more. Yeah, agreed,

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think about blogging? Yeah, and thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for reminding me. I would like this is especially

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<v Speaker 1>I would like to call out to the blog and

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<v Speaker 1>get you folks on the Friday recap when this comes out,

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<v Speaker 1>because we have only uh named three kind of pie

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<v Speaker 1>in the sky innovations that could help the world, and

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<v Speaker 1>there are many more. And I'd like to hear what

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<v Speaker 1>people have to say to Chuck. So that's the call out.

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<v Speaker 1>Nice Chuck, So you want to get started on this? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>you got your you got your stopwatch going? Yes, okay, alright,

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<v Speaker 1>so Chuck, let's do teleportation. I wish we could, my goodness.

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<v Speaker 1>So do I have you ever been on like a long,

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<v Speaker 1>long road trip? Yeah? I like road trip. So so

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<v Speaker 1>on the way right, on the way back, on the

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<v Speaker 1>back is awful. Right. What if you could just drive

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<v Speaker 1>to a place, say, you know, like a subway station,

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<v Speaker 1>which is a good idea. Uh And instead of getting

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<v Speaker 1>on a subway, you just go through some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>teleportation portal, so at a teleportation station. Nice, Yeah, they

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<v Speaker 1>should call it that. I think they will probably did

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<v Speaker 1>you on this term spend around since oh wow, you

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<v Speaker 1>did some extra extra research in Yes, an American writer

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<v Speaker 1>and paranormal investigator named Charles Fort wrote it in his

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<v Speaker 1>book Low for It's one of my heroes. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that really yeah forty times. Well, he had a book

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<v Speaker 1>called low within a post exclamation point at the end

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<v Speaker 1>l O w or l O l okay, and apparently

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<v Speaker 1>that's where he first used the word teleportation. Fantastic, So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that would be awesome, and it's not exactly impossible, No,

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<v Speaker 1>it's not. Thanks to the magic of quantum physics, we

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<v Speaker 1>could conceivably teleport ourselves. Indeed, I guess the way that

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<v Speaker 1>it's starting to look more and more is like we

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<v Speaker 1>would be facts. Yeah, exactly. That's a good way to say.

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<v Speaker 1>Instead of source, what what you're doing is you're recreating.

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<v Speaker 1>You would be recreating every cell in your body and

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<v Speaker 1>copying it, and that first edition would have to be destroyed. Though.

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<v Speaker 1>This one of the keys, right, that is the key

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't quite get to the bottom of y aside

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<v Speaker 1>from you know, very rapidly overpopulating the earth. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I got the impression that as far as quantum mechanics goes,

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<v Speaker 1>you would the original would have to be destroyed before

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<v Speaker 1>transmission or as it was being scanned. And then basically

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<v Speaker 1>it takes these particles and atoms and everything. It doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>actually transport the atoms. This is this is the big distinction.

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<v Speaker 1>Like all teleportation as far as science fiction goes, generally,

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<v Speaker 1>UM has to do with actually physically moving the atoms

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<v Speaker 1>through the air and then recreating them elsewhere. Uh. Much

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<v Speaker 1>like images on television. Right, as you've seen Willy Wonka

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<v Speaker 1>Chocolate factory, right, much like that. That's not the case.

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<v Speaker 1>In stead, what we would need to do is basically

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<v Speaker 1>scan us what makes us us. All the information about

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<v Speaker 1>where you know one of the cells in your liver

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<v Speaker 1>is um, about where you know every your genetic makeup,

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<v Speaker 1>everything for absolutely every part of you, including stuff we

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<v Speaker 1>haven't nailed down yet, would have to be analyzed and

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<v Speaker 1>then sent and then it could be recreated in the

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<v Speaker 1>first one was destroyed. There's a big problem with this,

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<v Speaker 1>well uh, namely, we're too complex of of beings to

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Well. Sure, but also if you subscribe to

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<v Speaker 1>any kind of Judeo Christian or any kind of religious idea,

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<v Speaker 1>um uh, you would have a big problem because basically

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<v Speaker 1>you've just been destroyed and all the information about you

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<v Speaker 1>has been transferred. And if you believe the soul is

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<v Speaker 1>some sort of if it's extant and an externality that's

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<v Speaker 1>not part of your body, that it's it's something beyond that,

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<v Speaker 1>can that be recreated? Yeah that's true. But let's say

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<v Speaker 1>most people who are working on uh teleporting us don't

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<v Speaker 1>subscribe to any ideas of the sult right, Okay, so

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go with that assumption. Let's just say phy physiologically,

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<v Speaker 1>what are some of the challenges. Well, they have actually

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<v Speaker 1>teleported uh atoms and UH photons. Did you know that

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<v Speaker 1>they've sent adams a distance of about half a meter

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<v Speaker 1>and they sent some photons over tens of kilometers. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>pretty impressive, it is. And I know that there's one

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<v Speaker 1>really smart guy out there, Charles Bennett, who was a

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<v Speaker 1>really smart scientist. He uh he said that in principle

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<v Speaker 1>that teleporting humans does not actually violate any fundamental laws

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<v Speaker 1>of physics. No, they used to think it violated Heisenberg's

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<v Speaker 1>uncertainty principle because we were talking about scanning and once

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<v Speaker 1>you get down to the sub atomic quantum level, um

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're you're dealing with quarks, little pieces of matter

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<v Speaker 1>and um other non material stuff. Uh that when you

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<v Speaker 1>analyze and when you observe them, when you measure them,

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<v Speaker 1>the the more accurately you measure them, the more likely

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<v Speaker 1>you are to disrupt their behavior until you can't get

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<v Speaker 1>an accurate measurement anymore. They figured out a way around this, right, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>where you're talking about quantum entanglement. Yes, that is Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>Einstein actually called that spooky action at a distance, except

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<v Speaker 1>he said in German, it probably sounds cooler in German,

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<v Speaker 1>although spooky is pretty cool. Basically, it's two separate particles

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<v Speaker 1>behaving as if it's one particle, even though they're separated

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<v Speaker 1>by a great distance. Right, Well, they were together at

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<v Speaker 1>one point in time. They become entangled, like there's their superpositions,

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<v Speaker 1>their states become entangled. And then yeah, after they're separated,

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<v Speaker 1>the behavior of one is the same as the behavior

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<v Speaker 1>of another, and they they can't they shouldn't be influencing

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<v Speaker 1>one another anymore. Right, But Bennett's that that's not even necessary.

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<v Speaker 1>If you were to figure out how to teleport an

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<v Speaker 1>entire human, he said that quote, the teleported person would

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<v Speaker 1>end up slightly different, but not in a biologically important way.

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<v Speaker 1>So well, chuck um there there are some Think about

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<v Speaker 1>what you just said, you're you're reproducing something that's not

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<v Speaker 1>biologically different. Think about your mood, the mood d'ine right now,

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<v Speaker 1>that's all a series of chemical reactions, So we have

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<v Speaker 1>to analyze down to that level where else should come

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<v Speaker 1>out on the other end, like maybe insane or very

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<v Speaker 1>depressed or ready to kill. I mean, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of information that would have to be scanned to accurately

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<v Speaker 1>reproduce you as you were before the scanning started. But

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<v Speaker 1>let's say we can do that, right. What What are

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<v Speaker 1>the benefits of teleportation? Why do we need this? And

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<v Speaker 1>since this is all pine in the sky and pipe

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<v Speaker 1>dream type of stuff, let's say we can teleport. That

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<v Speaker 1>would save time? Yes, time is money. How would you

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<v Speaker 1>love to not um commute to beam yourself to work

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<v Speaker 1>every day? That would be crazy. Work days would be shorter.

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<v Speaker 1>That means you could save energy at at the workplace.

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<v Speaker 1>I know I get a lot more work though when

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<v Speaker 1>a telecommute. Yeah, and teleporting, imagine that you could save

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<v Speaker 1>on you were talking about transportation of goods and jets

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<v Speaker 1>and big barges. Maybe if you could teleport your goods

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<v Speaker 1>then you wouldn't have to you know, fly things halfway

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<v Speaker 1>around the world. Yeah, that might be a good thing. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think there's a lot of benefits to teleportation. What

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<v Speaker 1>else you got, that's all? You don't have some Brady

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<v Speaker 1>bunch as any uh plotline that you can dream up here? No, no,

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<v Speaker 1>because the original is destroyed. That's where all the comedy lives. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you're right, yeah, when there's duplicity or multiplicity, except there

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<v Speaker 1>wasn't that much comedy there. Yeah, Michael Keaton Wolf. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So Chuck, um, pressure, stop watch, let's clear it out again.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's clear it out. So, I mean, trust me, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>we could do an hour on teleportation. But we could,

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<v Speaker 1>but we just stopped making sense after a little while.

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<v Speaker 1>Next because you couldn't understand us, but because we're dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the number two? Josh ready? Yes, okay? Number

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<v Speaker 1>two is a universal language? Chuck, consider this, how much conflict, war,

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<v Speaker 1>misunderstanding and just general strife, nationalism, isolationism, fascism, all of

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, How much of it is the result of

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<v Speaker 1>this unphysical border we call language. Right, They say that

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<v Speaker 1>the Devil's greatest creation was language. Really yeah, miscommunication, absolutely, dude.

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<v Speaker 1>And you know what, you're right, if there was an

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<v Speaker 1>international language, if everyone spoke the same language, I don't

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<v Speaker 1>think it would make us some big you know, it

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<v Speaker 1>would make us all the same. So lay thot years

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<v Speaker 1>a rest folks. No, most of the people I've I've

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<v Speaker 1>read who are talking and thinking about universal language is

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<v Speaker 1>saying like, this is not meant to supplant native languages.

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<v Speaker 1>It's just you know, if you're at home, you're let's

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<v Speaker 1>say you're in America, you're speaking English like Chuck and

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<v Speaker 1>I speak English to one another. But if we went

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<v Speaker 1>to give a seminar on podcasting in Norway, we would

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<v Speaker 1>use the international language. Interesting you bring up Norway because

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<v Speaker 1>some folks say that Norwegian might be a good start. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>they used to, and they used to think that nineteen eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>At least that's true. Yeah, go ahead. Some people have

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<v Speaker 1>thought about this over the years and they think that, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>you should probably create a new language with another language

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<v Speaker 1>is a basis. But it probably shouldn't be one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big boys either, because it would give that that

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<v Speaker 1>nation too much of a leg up. Oh yeah, you

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<v Speaker 1>said from now on English is the universal language. Everyone

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<v Speaker 1>who speaks English should be like, damn straight, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to create your own language if you want

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<v Speaker 1>a universal language. And I know you're dying to talk

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<v Speaker 1>about Esperanto, Chuck. I had only vaguely heard of Esperanto

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<v Speaker 1>before and didn't really know the nuts and bolts of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, actually Ben Bolan, the creator of one of

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<v Speaker 1>our soon to be released podcasts, a conspiracy podcast called

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<v Speaker 1>Stuff They Don't Want You To Know It. Yeah, looking

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<v Speaker 1>forward to it. Um, he was telling me about Esperanto

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<v Speaker 1>and basically, in the nineteenth century, a guy named L. L.

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<v Speaker 1>Zamenhoff came up with this idea that we need a

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<v Speaker 1>universal language that would promote tolerance and quality, that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of thing, avoid war again specifically, I think he said

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<v Speaker 1>that was one of his aims. And yeah, he was

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<v Speaker 1>definitely a pacifist. You know. He also tried to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with a um uh, neutral religion that's all that

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<v Speaker 1>called Hamaronism. Maybe that's why I didn't take something all

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<v Speaker 1>right now, I guess. But he was twenty seven, he

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<v Speaker 1>was at the tender age of twenty seven, and he

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<v Speaker 1>created a universal language. He did and basically it sounds

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<v Speaker 1>a lot like it's a romance language kind of it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like a broken romance language. Yeah, it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>independent in and of itself. So while he did borrow

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<v Speaker 1>from others, they say it's they don't describe it as

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<v Speaker 1>a as a mix, like a potpourri of other languages

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<v Speaker 1>just mixed together right now. They it's structurally similar to

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<v Speaker 1>um non European languages than European ones. I mean, it's

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<v Speaker 1>very much phonetic, and it's it's spelled the way it

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<v Speaker 1>sounds supposed to be pretty easy, very easy. There's the

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen rules of Grammar and pronunciation to it, and that's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Because I mean, you think about English, you know you've

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<v Speaker 1>got like good, better, best, Where the hell did better

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<v Speaker 1>and best come from? We started out with good, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like where does that come from? And apparently English is

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<v Speaker 1>one of the most difficult languages to learn that. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say so, because of all the little problems

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<v Speaker 1>like that. So I think what Zomanoff was on the

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<v Speaker 1>trail of it. I think anybody has created a universal

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<v Speaker 1>language is to get away with all the get get

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<v Speaker 1>rid of all the all the foibles, the weird things

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<v Speaker 1>that make a dialect or language, so unique inconsistencies. One

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<v Speaker 1>of the other problems is is that's actually a structural approach.

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<v Speaker 1>There's also a symbolic approach. Yeah, I like that one.

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<v Speaker 1>The symbolic approach is like we call mother mother for

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<v Speaker 1>no good reason. It's a symbolic word, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not like the word cuckoo, where you know, cuckoo is

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<v Speaker 1>the sound that a cuckoo bird makes. That's very structural.

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<v Speaker 1>But this, this symbolic words probably have even more difficulties

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<v Speaker 1>than a universal language um that was built structurally. Because

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<v Speaker 1>what a language is is it's a world view of

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<v Speaker 1>a culture the people who share that language. Right, So

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<v Speaker 1>how do you get the entire world to agree on

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the meaning of mother, right? Well? Mother is

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<v Speaker 1>probably an easy one. But let's say the meaning of happiness.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's pick on happiness, right, Well, you can't. That's the problem,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's probably why there never will be a universal language.

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<v Speaker 1>That's not necessarily true. Also, I think that most I

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<v Speaker 1>think every single language universal language attempt and there's been some.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you read about idiom neutral Russian one that sounded

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<v Speaker 1>like it got pretty close? Wow, what do you mean

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<v Speaker 1>by clothes? Solo than Esperanto. Two million people speak Esperanto today,

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<v Speaker 1>That is true. Have you been on a learning It's

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<v Speaker 1>a website for dedicated to teaching Esperanto. It's got the

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<v Speaker 1>tutorials and everything in there, so if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>learn Esperanto. And Chuck is right, there is actually a

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<v Speaker 1>thriving little community of Esperanto speakers. And there's also two

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<v Speaker 1>movies that have been shot entirely in Esperanto. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>talk about one. What I was feeling. Johnny Depp did

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<v Speaker 1>one of him? No? No, no, uh, Bill Shatner, Oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's right. There is a nineteen movie called Incubus, and

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<v Speaker 1>the whole thing is filmed entirely in Esperanto. William Shatner

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<v Speaker 1>speaks Esperanto, or at least he spoke the lines from

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<v Speaker 1>that movie. Yeah. No, it rang a bell that I

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<v Speaker 1>heard he was he learned it. Yeah, he knows esperanto.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, worked with sat Did he speak Esperanto? TI like,

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, that explains so much. I just thought

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<v Speaker 1>he was having a stroke. He's a nice guy though. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a little puffy, sure, but it was for a

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<v Speaker 1>TV commercial. He was he was into it. Oh, I'm sure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like he really gave it his bringing, every bring, everything

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<v Speaker 1>he did. I was impressed because sometimes commercial actors are

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, go through the motions, we'll chuck, let's

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<v Speaker 1>talk about it. What's the uh what? What's What are

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<v Speaker 1>the benefits of universal language besides war avoidance or anything

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<v Speaker 1>like that. I would say economically, it would be easier

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<v Speaker 1>to communicate and negotiate contracts and uh broker deals and

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<v Speaker 1>trade and stuff like that with you. Oh, definitely, And

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<v Speaker 1>I think we need it. We're becoming more and more globalized.

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<v Speaker 1>We're interacting with one another more and more. You basically

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<v Speaker 1>can't be an isolated country anymonger if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>stay afloat, it would save time. Plus, also, think about science,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, why does science use Latin. It's an agreed

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<v Speaker 1>upon universal language. What if there was an uh, there

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<v Speaker 1>was a real universal language that scientists could more easily

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<v Speaker 1>communicate their ideas with one another their findings. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>and I saw that um in one of the articles

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<v Speaker 1>we read for this. Some some of the old school

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<v Speaker 1>Russian scientists used to not like to have to publish

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<v Speaker 1>in German, which I think at the time was what

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<v Speaker 1>most German and French and German and French, and then

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of ts for you Russian. Yeah, and a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of students either um today have to read these

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<v Speaker 1>things in a translated form that may not be quite

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<v Speaker 1>accurate or you know, not read it at all. And

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<v Speaker 1>time check you one to go into number three? Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>to clear out your your stopwatch there. Okay, all right,

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<v Speaker 1>you're ready and go go. This one is Chuck's favorite one.

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<v Speaker 1>He picked this one. Are we ready? Yeah? Okay, Chuck

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<v Speaker 1>picked this one. I think it's a good idea to Chuck.

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<v Speaker 1>What is the third innovation that we need right now?

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<v Speaker 1>Innovator is what we need? We need Chuck, just spun it. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>we need a human, we need another Einstein, we need

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<v Speaker 1>another Newton, we need another Tesla to come along, just

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<v Speaker 1>not another Edison. Yeah, and Josh, some people might say,

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<v Speaker 1>when it comes to innovators, you're probably thinking in the

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<v Speaker 1>world of science, which is appropriate, and uh, a renaissance

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<v Speaker 1>scientist maybe where you need to to start your search. Sure, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>we found this article about renaissance scientists and how actually

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<v Speaker 1>in the United States and the higher educational system that

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<v Speaker 1>the cards are stacked against any of these people actually

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<v Speaker 1>being produced that very much that we have to just

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<v Speaker 1>basically hope that one comes along, and if it does,

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<v Speaker 1>it's gonna be a total fluke, you know, because the

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<v Speaker 1>idea is that in order to be a true innovator, Uh,

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<v Speaker 1>then you have to be a whole brain scientist, definitely.

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<v Speaker 1>And the graduate system that we have today, they said,

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<v Speaker 1>the undergraduate system does a pretty good job of it. Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I just think about all the different kinds of classes,

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<v Speaker 1>the core classes, and then you know, I took biology

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<v Speaker 1>for no good reason. Statistics I hated stats. Oh it's awful. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>But the whole brain thinkers are the ones that have

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<v Speaker 1>the more well rounded approach. So not only are they

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<v Speaker 1>are they a brilliant a physics mind, but they can

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<v Speaker 1>understand the human side of maybe how to apply that,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's what's missing a lot of times. Right. So

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<v Speaker 1>Mills and no Tino, I think wrote this this, this

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<v Speaker 1>opinion piece we found in Forbes. Um that basically you're saying, like, yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>undergrad we have it. It's great. Same generally with high school,

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<v Speaker 1>middle school, grade school, UM, kids are exp oose to

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<v Speaker 1>all these different fields of study. The problem is it's

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<v Speaker 1>geared generally towards funneling them one way or another. And

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<v Speaker 1>this becomes most evident when you get to grad school

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<v Speaker 1>big time, where if you're a doctoral student and you

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<v Speaker 1>need money, you better come up with a a an

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<v Speaker 1>incredibly specific, unique and specific idea or field of research

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<v Speaker 1>that you're going to go into. It's all geared towards that.

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<v Speaker 1>And like you said that, as you as you go

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<v Speaker 1>forward an education, the path gets narrower and narrower until

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<v Speaker 1>you're literally, yeah to where you may be researching one

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<v Speaker 1>thing for your career and maybe you'll come up with innovation, innovation,

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<v Speaker 1>that way to change the world. But my money is

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<v Speaker 1>on a whole brain thinker. Well, yeah, or at least

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<v Speaker 1>somebody who can take all these various fields of research

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<v Speaker 1>or all this various research data and put it all together,

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<v Speaker 1>because research is just research until you apply it. So, Chuck,

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<v Speaker 1>is there anybody on the horizon? Is there anybody we

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<v Speaker 1>should be keeping an eye on? May who? There's a few?

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<v Speaker 1>I know some people might say the first answer that

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<v Speaker 1>comes to my via Stephen Hawking, but did a little research.

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<v Speaker 1>And while Hawking is no slouch, there are some in

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<v Speaker 1>the physics community that think Hawking gets a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>attention because he's generated a lot of attention through his

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<v Speaker 1>books and uh maybe through his disability has garnered a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of attention. So certainly not to knock anything he's done,

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<v Speaker 1>but within the physics community, I don't know if he's

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<v Speaker 1>as high on the list of some of these other

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<v Speaker 1>guys and gals. Guys and gals, I love that there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much smarter than I. I'm calling him guys and gals,

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<v Speaker 1>these dudes and chicks. Ed Whitton is one of them. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>you ever heard of Ed? I He is a physicist,

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<v Speaker 1>specifically a mathematical physicist, and studies at Princeton. He's gotten

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<v Speaker 1>the MacArthur Genius Grant. He's won the Fields Medal, which

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<v Speaker 1>is the highest uh medal or honor you can get

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<v Speaker 1>in math. So he's he's he's been called the next

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<v Speaker 1>Isaac Newton. But he works with theory, which I know

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<v Speaker 1>you're you're not a big fan of. I have one

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<v Speaker 1>word about string theory? What's that? Boo boo? Yeah? So

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<v Speaker 1>he's up there. And then there's a guy, a dude

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<v Speaker 1>named Murray gell Man. Have you heard of him? Tell

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<v Speaker 1>us about him? Okay? Uh MGM is I like to

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<v Speaker 1>call him. He's a prominent scientist and once again he

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<v Speaker 1>won the Nobel Prize in Physics in nineteen nine for

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<v Speaker 1>his work with the theory of elementary particles. And he

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<v Speaker 1>is the one that came up with cork the quirk.

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<v Speaker 1>So he's no slouch. No, he's not a slouch. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>to predict the existence of a theoretical particle and then

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<v Speaker 1>have it confirmed. Not a pretty smart guy. And then

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<v Speaker 1>you know, some people might say folks like Bill Gates,

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<v Speaker 1>who uh, he's not a physicist or a mathematician. But

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<v Speaker 1>he has a high emotional intellect, a very high emotional

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<v Speaker 1>intact and ellect, and a lot of money and a

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<v Speaker 1>true visionary and a guy that likes to spread his

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<v Speaker 1>money around to good causes nowadays. So I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>what got into him, or if he was always this

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<v Speaker 1>way and he was just really focused on Microsoft, but

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<v Speaker 1>I gotta tell you, I like this repackaged Bill Gates. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>he's very generous guy. Apparently more than half his fortune

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<v Speaker 1>he's invested outside of Microsoft. It's fantastic. So if you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about an innovator, I mean, you can only really

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<v Speaker 1>do good if you're if you're trying to help your

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<v Speaker 1>fellow man, right, well, yeah, or if it's a happy

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<v Speaker 1>byproduct of your evil deeds like Oppenheimer. No, that's the

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<v Speaker 1>reverse of that. So, Chuck, there's three innovations. You said

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<v Speaker 1>we could do a lot more. I'm kind of glad

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<v Speaker 1>we did. But uh, I am interested as well. Thank

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<v Speaker 1>you for turning off the stop by. I too am

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<v Speaker 1>interested to see what our listeners who go through to

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<v Speaker 1>the blogs think too. There's certainly some uh. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>we were talking if we were just on pipe dream time,

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<v Speaker 1>like a food pill where you could just drop some

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<v Speaker 1>water on it would create a meal. Sadly, that was

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<v Speaker 1>one that we considered talking about, right, and he said

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<v Speaker 1>it's called the vitamin, and I felt kind of stupid. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>so you know we're not talking about which jetson type

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<v Speaker 1>of stuff. I mean real attainable things like teleportation. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's right there, right there. It's facing people so who

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<v Speaker 1>all speak the same language Esperanto and Chuck, I guess

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<v Speaker 1>it's time for a listener mail, right. Indeed, Yes, Josh,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna call this a walk around the world listener, Marail,

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<v Speaker 1>I have three quickies from different parts of the world,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're gonna read them right now. Okay, you don't

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<v Speaker 1>actually have to walk though, right, you're gonna first one

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<v Speaker 1>is from Australia. Get a. My name is Nicola and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm a student from Melbourne. I am finally seeing you

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<v Speaker 1>an email after months of NonStop listening. I just want

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<v Speaker 1>to say thank you for putting metric conversions in your

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<v Speaker 1>more recent shows. I've been confused by your measuring method.

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<v Speaker 1>Imperial is it called? Also, I must confess I love

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<v Speaker 1>how you guys say Australia, especially how you pronounce it.

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<v Speaker 1>Would you say it again on the air for me, Chuck, Australia, Australia,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks a million. And that is from I won't say

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<v Speaker 1>your biggest fan, because that's what everyone says. I will

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<v Speaker 1>call myself a committed fanatic. Actually that sounds It's way

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<v Speaker 1>better than slightly creepy if you asked me Nicola. So Nicola.

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<v Speaker 1>This one is from Luca and Serbia. Luca says, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>writing about Nicola Tesla. He said that he was Austrian.

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<v Speaker 1>That is not true. He was an ethnic Serb. Wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute. Our last one was our last listener was

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<v Speaker 1>Nicola from Australia, and now Luca from Serbia. Is writing

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<v Speaker 1>about Nicola Tesla. How about that this is crazy? It's crazy,

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<v Speaker 1>so he says that is not true. He was an

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<v Speaker 1>ethnic Serb who was born in today's Croatia, which was

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<v Speaker 1>part of Austria, so he's not what you would consider

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<v Speaker 1>today Austrian. He's although I'm sure Luca just said he

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<v Speaker 1>was born in Austria, so Croatians like to say he

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<v Speaker 1>was Croatian. But he's a Serb because his father was

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<v Speaker 1>an Orthodox priest and Croatians are Catholics. So that is

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<v Speaker 1>from Luca. And then my final favorite from China. Remember

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<v Speaker 1>al Jane, Uh, this is great. I'm just gonna read

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<v Speaker 1>it as it stands here, and we should go ahead

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<v Speaker 1>and tell y'all we're not making fun. I love broken English.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's adorable and when people make the effort

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<v Speaker 1>it really you know, gives me a good feeling. There

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<v Speaker 1>you go, Chuck, Well, I'm a loyal fan of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>You should know. You guys always make me laugh and

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<v Speaker 1>when there have some weird words that I don't know,

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<v Speaker 1>I will hear it repeatedly. So I am a hard

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<v Speaker 1>working fan of your program. I got an interesting topic.

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<v Speaker 1>I think why you guys don't talk about the Internet

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<v Speaker 1>censorship and how to skip it because in my country, China,

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<v Speaker 1>people can't access the YouTube and interestingly, I even can't

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<v Speaker 1>access your blog, so we're banned in China. I know

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<v Speaker 1>I blogged about it. Uh, this is the American Life

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<v Speaker 1>podcast may be also illegal because I can't download it.

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<v Speaker 1>There has a defense system named great Wall. Wish you

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<v Speaker 1>can see it and read it in your program. But

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<v Speaker 1>don't mock me. It's what he says, and I think

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<v Speaker 1>he means there is I'm you know, apologies for the

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<v Speaker 1>broken English or emen don't market one of those. So

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<v Speaker 1>that is from Yao Jian and we appreciate you all listening.

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<v Speaker 1>And yes, yeah, and thank you for the information. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I actually did blog about Tianamen Square the anniversary the

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<v Speaker 1>twenties anniversaries happened. I couldn't remember which listener told us

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<v Speaker 1>that we were banned there, but yeah, I gotta tell

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<v Speaker 1>you that's the point of pride for maybe. Yeah, that's awesome,

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<v Speaker 1>and we love folks writing in and given their best

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<v Speaker 1>attempt at speaking are weird language. Yeah, Chica, thanks to

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<v Speaker 1>all of you. And I just think it's cool that

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<v Speaker 1>there's people on the other side of the world that

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<v Speaker 1>think we're interesting. Yeah, weird. Yeah, Well, if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to tell us that we're interesting, or correct us about

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<v Speaker 1>where some guy was born or whatever for Marcus, sure,

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