1 00:00:02,680 --> 00:00:06,280 Speaker 1: When I grew up, I want to be a journalist. 2 00:00:06,720 --> 00:00:12,040 Speaker 2: What does being a journalist mean to you? Interview famous people, 3 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:16,360 Speaker 2: getting this stupe on the latest news? Are you ready 4 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: to make journalism You're superpowered? 5 00:00:19,160 --> 00:00:22,280 Speaker 3: Yeah? 6 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: Today work exploring a job that keeps the world up 7 00:00:25,800 --> 00:00:31,360 Speaker 2: to speed with information? Do you love sharing information? If 8 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:34,519 Speaker 2: you've ever dreamed of being a journalist, you won't want 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 2: to miss this episode. Today we'll meet an experienced journalist. 10 00:00:38,880 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: She's covered lots of topics, but her passion is writing 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:51,040 Speaker 2: about a special group of people. Parents up, we have 12 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:54,240 Speaker 2: an appointment at a newsroom. It's only a few blocks away. 13 00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:58,560 Speaker 2: So as we stroll, let's see if there's anything newsworthy 14 00:00:59,000 --> 00:01:04,759 Speaker 2: like what, oh, there's always something the weather, an accident, gossip. 15 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:09,800 Speaker 2: A journalist can cover all sorts of things. Remember when 16 00:01:09,800 --> 00:01:13,440 Speaker 2: we met kat at Chasata, the first Mexican born woman 17 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: to go into space. That's big news for science and 18 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 2: women in space. Or how about Andrew Zimmer and TV 19 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 2: celebrity ship. That doesn't mean a journalist can be invited 20 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 2: to a studio set and see how he cooks from 21 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:30,800 Speaker 2: behind the stage. If you go, information is power. People 22 00:01:30,840 --> 00:01:33,760 Speaker 2: want to know what's going on The earliest known news 23 00:01:33,840 --> 00:01:37,759 Speaker 2: items was the acta diurna. Important daily events in ancient 24 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 2: Rome were carved onto stone or metal and set in 25 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 2: places for the public to see. But in those days 26 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:49,440 Speaker 2: only royalty and other wealthy mooti doos could read. Today 27 00:01:49,680 --> 00:01:54,520 Speaker 2: almost everyone has access the Internet alone sports four point 28 00:01:54,640 --> 00:02:00,000 Speaker 2: five billion users sitting info by blogs, blogs, podcasts, websites, webcasts, 29 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:04,840 Speaker 2: email and social media. Those real stories and more. And 30 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: we don't just share news, we share our views on everything. 31 00:02:10,160 --> 00:02:13,079 Speaker 2: Look over there by that coffee shop, there's a crowd. 32 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 2: Let's check it out. Ah, it's kittens from an animal shelter. 33 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:25,560 Speaker 4: I want to hold one. It's so cute and cuddly. 34 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: Our first story As a journalist, what questions would you ask? 35 00:02:30,840 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 1: I find out how many animals are at the shelter. 36 00:02:34,440 --> 00:02:36,680 Speaker 4: I'd ask how to adopt a pit and take care 37 00:02:36,720 --> 00:02:37,040 Speaker 4: of it? 38 00:02:37,440 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 2: Great? Those facts create news journalism, information without opinions, clear 39 00:02:44,600 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 2: and to the point. Now, if you were a feature journalist, 40 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 2: you'd interview many people and include stories. You might research 41 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,040 Speaker 2: animal shelters across the country and encourage people to adopt 42 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:03,640 Speaker 2: rescued animals. My style super you could add photos or 43 00:03:03,760 --> 00:03:07,000 Speaker 2: videos and submit it to an editor of a media company, 44 00:03:07,280 --> 00:03:11,920 Speaker 2: or you could publish it yourself. Time to move on. Hey, 45 00:03:12,440 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 2: why did the journalists go to the ice cream shop? 46 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 4: I don't know why she was. 47 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:22,800 Speaker 2: Looking for a scoop. 48 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: Look, the building is on fire. 49 00:03:28,480 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: Thankfully the firefighters have arrived. I wonder how the fire started. 50 00:03:35,840 --> 00:03:38,480 Speaker 4: I bet this will be on TV tonight. Does that 51 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:39,800 Speaker 4: need a journalist too? 52 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:40,760 Speaker 3: Yep? 53 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 2: And if there was something suspicious about the fire, and 54 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 2: investigative journalists who acts like a detective, would interview all 55 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:54,520 Speaker 2: sorts of people to cross check their stories. Sometimes an 56 00:03:54,560 --> 00:03:57,120 Speaker 2: investigative reporter even goes undercover. 57 00:03:57,720 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 4: That sounds exciting. 58 00:03:59,360 --> 00:04:03,880 Speaker 2: It takes courage to uncover and tell the truth. Hey, 59 00:04:04,160 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: we're almost at our destination. The newsroom is just around 60 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:07,960 Speaker 2: the corner. 61 00:04:08,440 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 4: Uh oh, do you see what I see? 62 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 3: Those people look angry. 63 00:04:15,160 --> 00:04:19,200 Speaker 2: I think it's a protest. Wow, everyone's recording it with 64 00:04:19,240 --> 00:04:23,640 Speaker 2: their phones. Nowadays, anybody can post a story and share 65 00:04:23,640 --> 00:04:24,720 Speaker 2: it as news. 66 00:04:24,880 --> 00:04:27,320 Speaker 4: So anybody can be a journalist. 67 00:04:28,040 --> 00:04:31,599 Speaker 2: Let's see, here's a test. How many people would you 68 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:32,960 Speaker 2: say are protesting? 69 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:34,839 Speaker 4: Over a hundred? 70 00:04:36,480 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 1: Actually the protesters are a small group. Most of the 71 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:42,040 Speaker 1: crowd are just lookers. 72 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 2: A story changes based on the viewer. A journalist can 73 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:51,360 Speaker 2: impact millions of listeners, readers, or viewers depending on how 74 00:04:51,400 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 2: the story is told. 75 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:56,240 Speaker 4: I guess it's tricky. But if I can't interview all 76 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,279 Speaker 4: these people at the protest, how do I know if 77 00:04:59,279 --> 00:05:00,159 Speaker 4: my story. 78 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:00,599 Speaker 3: Is that's true? 79 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 2: That's a question for a pro Let's head to the 80 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:08,159 Speaker 2: newsroom and you can ask our guests about it. Are 81 00:05:08,200 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 2: you ready to meet a real journalist? 82 00:05:11,240 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 3: Yeah? 83 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,200 Speaker 2: When I meet the appointment, I was told to look 84 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: for Anna white House. 85 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:28,320 Speaker 1: There's only one woman. She's at that guest over there. 86 00:05:28,400 --> 00:05:32,280 Speaker 2: Right, let's go introduce ourselves. Hi there, Anna, I'm with 87 00:05:32,360 --> 00:05:34,560 Speaker 2: Wingo kids and we want to find out what it 88 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 2: takes to be a journalist. Can we ask some. 89 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 5: Questions you can? Indeed? 90 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 3: Great? 91 00:05:40,040 --> 00:05:42,359 Speaker 2: First, what kind of journalist are you? 92 00:05:42,880 --> 00:05:43,080 Speaker 3: So? 93 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:47,000 Speaker 5: I am a mixture. Really, I'm a freelance journalist, so 94 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:51,760 Speaker 5: I will take on investigative journalists pieces, I will take 95 00:05:51,800 --> 00:05:57,680 Speaker 5: on reporting lifestyle travel. I've worked on national newspapers and 96 00:05:57,720 --> 00:06:00,280 Speaker 5: I've worked on commercial radio stations. 97 00:06:00,279 --> 00:06:04,839 Speaker 2: Great, what would you say? Are three things all journalists need? 98 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:10,680 Speaker 5: You need? Number one a relentlessness. Now, let me describe 99 00:06:10,720 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 5: that you cannot stop until you have the answer to 100 00:06:14,120 --> 00:06:16,159 Speaker 5: your questions. Okay, So if you are going to give 101 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:19,520 Speaker 5: up at the first hurdle step away from this career, 102 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:24,080 Speaker 5: you need drive. You need hunger to get to the 103 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:29,360 Speaker 5: bottom of a story, a drive to find the truth 104 00:06:29,480 --> 00:06:34,279 Speaker 5: in that story. And I think thirdly you need a 105 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:41,279 Speaker 5: love of communication of bringing together people through words. 106 00:06:41,279 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 2: In It would be great if you could provide tips 107 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:46,200 Speaker 2: at the end so our listeners can learn these skills. 108 00:06:46,600 --> 00:06:51,920 Speaker 2: We also received some fantastic questions from our Lingo Kids listeners. 109 00:06:56,680 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 1: How odd were you when you decided. 110 00:06:58,680 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 3: You wanted to be a tern? 111 00:07:01,000 --> 00:07:05,679 Speaker 5: I was I think nine years old when I decided 112 00:07:05,720 --> 00:07:10,840 Speaker 5: I wanted to be a journalist. I was always asking questions, 113 00:07:11,360 --> 00:07:13,360 Speaker 5: So when I was little, my mum always used to 114 00:07:13,400 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 5: say to me, I would be the kid that me 115 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 5: going what's that? Who's that? Why did that happen? What's 116 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,120 Speaker 5: going on with that? Why is that yellow? Why is 117 00:07:21,160 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 5: that red? I think that's when I realized I had 118 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 5: a hunger to find answers to my questions. 119 00:07:28,840 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: And did you just write down the answers people gave you. 120 00:07:32,280 --> 00:07:34,760 Speaker 5: I used to record on a little in England. They're 121 00:07:34,760 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 5: called Fisher Price Toys. Their little toy cassettes, and I 122 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 5: would record myself, aged nine, interviewing my sister about her day, 123 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 5: what she'd done at school, how awful her school dinners were. 124 00:07:48,520 --> 00:07:51,640 Speaker 5: And I found myself collecting these tapes and I realized 125 00:07:51,640 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 5: they were sort of a series, and that I understood 126 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:59,400 Speaker 5: my sister more by asking those questions, which made me 127 00:07:59,800 --> 00:08:03,960 Speaker 5: a better sister, but and also terrible sister at other times, 128 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 5: because I knew what I could use against her, But 129 00:08:07,640 --> 00:08:10,440 Speaker 5: it made me understand another person more. 130 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:13,760 Speaker 4: What a cool idea. I could do that too with 131 00:08:13,880 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 4: my little sister. She'd probably hate it, Anna, And do 132 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:19,720 Speaker 4: you still have as interviews? 133 00:08:19,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 5: I've got them all. My mom still has them. She 134 00:08:22,120 --> 00:08:24,120 Speaker 5: played them to me when I got my first job 135 00:08:24,160 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 5: on radio. She sent me in the post my first 136 00:08:27,640 --> 00:08:31,520 Speaker 5: Fisher Cross tape and she said remember this, and I said, yeah, 137 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,320 Speaker 5: I do remember. And that's where it began. So you're 138 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,360 Speaker 5: never too young to start training, Anna. 139 00:08:38,960 --> 00:08:41,440 Speaker 4: Did you go to school to become a journalist? 140 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:48,160 Speaker 5: I started out at university studying law, but then I 141 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:52,920 Speaker 5: realized that doing law, all the answers to my questions 142 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 5: had almost been given. It was handed to me. That's 143 00:08:55,440 --> 00:08:58,240 Speaker 5: when I switched over and I went to the London 144 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 5: School of Journalism, and I think that's the important thing 145 00:09:01,920 --> 00:09:05,640 Speaker 5: to remember that anything's possible. Some of the best journalists 146 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:06,840 Speaker 5: haven't gone to school. 147 00:09:07,360 --> 00:09:09,640 Speaker 3: Oh that's get now. Yeah. 148 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 4: My teacher often complains about my writing, So I thought 149 00:09:13,520 --> 00:09:15,680 Speaker 4: it can't be a journalist because I can't write. 150 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:20,360 Speaker 5: Will don't know anybody tell you you can't do it, 151 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:24,200 Speaker 5: because I had that when I was younger. I'm dyslexic, 152 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 5: and I was told by my English teacher that I 153 00:09:27,720 --> 00:09:30,400 Speaker 5: would never make it as a journalist. As a writer, 154 00:09:31,040 --> 00:09:34,560 Speaker 5: and I have three Sunday Times bestseller books, I've been 155 00:09:34,559 --> 00:09:37,319 Speaker 5: a journalist for twenty years, and I want you to 156 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:40,800 Speaker 5: know that nobody gets to tell you what you can't do. 157 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 4: Do people ever get mad about what you say? 158 00:09:44,040 --> 00:09:44,199 Speaker 3: Right? 159 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,920 Speaker 5: Yes, you have to be robust. And when I say robust, 160 00:09:49,440 --> 00:09:52,719 Speaker 5: you cannot care what people think about you because you 161 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:55,839 Speaker 5: will be writing stories that make people angry because the 162 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:59,320 Speaker 5: truth hurts. Right, So when you are searching for a story, 163 00:10:00,000 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 5: when you are there as a journalist, think about the 164 00:10:03,559 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 5: people you are going to help feel seen by writing it, 165 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:11,319 Speaker 5: not the people you're going to enrage by uncovering the truth. 166 00:10:11,840 --> 00:10:15,040 Speaker 4: Anna, what do you like this about being a journalist. 167 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: The best part for me is when your story hits 168 00:10:20,520 --> 00:10:23,719 Speaker 5: the printer, when you open up the pages of that 169 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 5: magazine and you smell that fresh paper smell and you 170 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,520 Speaker 5: see your byline, and that's something it's very important to 171 00:10:32,600 --> 00:10:35,839 Speaker 5: hold on to. And I think when you read a 172 00:10:35,920 --> 00:10:39,520 Speaker 5: story that you know you have searched and drew every 173 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 5: rock into every corner of every street you possibly can. 174 00:10:45,640 --> 00:10:48,560 Speaker 5: That is the moment when, as that nine year old 175 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:53,839 Speaker 5: little girl, I felt like I had found the truth 176 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 5: and I'd felt like I had found my place in 177 00:10:57,320 --> 00:10:57,640 Speaker 5: the world. 178 00:10:58,160 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 2: Wow, Ianna, thank you for sharing the first in what 179 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 2: can kids do now while they're still growing up to 180 00:11:11,480 --> 00:11:12,959 Speaker 2: become a journalist? 181 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:18,000 Speaker 5: I would start asking questions. So when I was younger, 182 00:11:18,040 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 5: before I hit nine, I used to think that listening 183 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 5: was almost waiting to talk. I would sort of be 184 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,160 Speaker 5: sitting there waiting to say my piece. Now I listen 185 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:35,200 Speaker 5: and waiting to question. So start practicing listening and waiting 186 00:11:35,280 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 5: to go deeper when someone has responded. So if they say, well, 187 00:11:39,840 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 5: you know, my name is Anna white House, Oh brilliant, 188 00:11:42,760 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 5: or what do you do? What's your job? Well, I'm 189 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 5: a journalist. How did you get into that job. Who, what, why, when? 190 00:11:50,240 --> 00:11:50,480 Speaker 3: Where? 191 00:11:51,360 --> 00:11:53,559 Speaker 5: Those are the five pillars of journalism. 192 00:11:54,240 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 3: What else? 193 00:11:55,200 --> 00:11:57,120 Speaker 5: And I would do what I did is start your 194 00:11:57,160 --> 00:12:03,200 Speaker 5: own radio show, start your own interviewing behind the scenes, 195 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:08,200 Speaker 5: interview your teddy bears, interview your sisters, your siblings, your friends. 196 00:12:08,800 --> 00:12:12,040 Speaker 5: Ask them questions until you found out something about them 197 00:12:12,480 --> 00:12:14,680 Speaker 5: that you didn't know before you started questioning. 198 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,480 Speaker 2: It's important to get information from more than one source. Ina, 199 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,760 Speaker 2: how would you advise kids to do that? 200 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:21,600 Speaker 3: Yes? 201 00:12:21,800 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 4: How do I know who is this? 202 00:12:23,440 --> 00:12:27,959 Speaker 5: Soce, let's take a case study of your school classroom 203 00:12:28,559 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 5: and you want to find out who stole the teacher's apple. Okay, 204 00:12:34,200 --> 00:12:36,920 Speaker 5: I think you'd start by the people sitting closest to 205 00:12:37,120 --> 00:12:40,719 Speaker 5: the teacher. Maybe, so you think, okay, who could have 206 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:43,520 Speaker 5: stolen it? It's the three on the front row. So 207 00:12:43,679 --> 00:12:46,840 Speaker 5: I'm going to start questioning them. One of them might say, oh, 208 00:12:46,920 --> 00:12:50,040 Speaker 5: well I saw Jamie do it. The other white say 209 00:12:50,120 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 5: well I saw Katie do it. And then you start 210 00:12:52,559 --> 00:12:55,160 Speaker 5: seeing that those stories don't add up. And then you 211 00:12:55,280 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 5: go to the person in the middle and they say, well, 212 00:12:57,160 --> 00:12:59,360 Speaker 5: I saw Jamie do it. So you've got then two 213 00:12:59,480 --> 00:13:02,920 Speaker 5: people who saw Jamie take the apple off the teacher's desk. 214 00:13:03,360 --> 00:13:06,000 Speaker 5: You then go further to the second row. Don't stop 215 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 5: until you have formed a picture around that teacher's desk 216 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:14,679 Speaker 5: and you feel really confident that those stories match up, 217 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:17,679 Speaker 5: and you ultimately have found who is stolen, and you 218 00:13:17,760 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 5: know what, it's probably you who stole the apple. 219 00:13:24,880 --> 00:13:27,880 Speaker 2: We hope you enjoyed this episode of the grown Up Podcast, 220 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,760 Speaker 2: even if you never planned to be a journalist, learning 221 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: how to tell facts versus opinions is a lifelong skill. 222 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:38,160 Speaker 2: Do you have a passion you can research and share 223 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,679 Speaker 2: with the world. That's all for now. 224 00:13:41,120 --> 00:13:42,040 Speaker 5: I'll see you next week. 225 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:47,360 Speaker 4: And to live a full interactive learning adventure, check out our. 226 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: Lingo kids up with tons of games and activities for 227 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 1: endless fun. 228 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:57,480 Speaker 4: It's so fun to learn what you can be growing up, 229 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:04,719 Speaker 4: growing up. Come and join us, Come everyone, so we 230 00:14:04,920 --> 00:14:07,679 Speaker 4: can learn while having lots of fun. 231 00:14:08,800 --> 00:14:13,680 Speaker 3: Because it's so funsu larn what you can be. Yes, 232 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:21,480 Speaker 3: it's so funcularn what you can be gingup, growing growing up. Pleabies,