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Speaker 1: What took you guys so long? What took the Marlin

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Speaker 1: It's Daniel's first stream in a while it's great to

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Speaker 1: We've been doing quite a bit of preview coverage of

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Speaker 1: And one of these guys is quite unlike the others,

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Speaker 1: We gotta start with Joe Mack officially being added to

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Speaker 1: I enjoy that everybody has their own pronunciation for Matt Pushyard.

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Speaker 1: Yeah now to uh in all seriousness Baseball America Highlight,

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Speaker 5: at all. But he has a decent hit tool. I mean,

437
00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:26,960
Speaker 5: if a team wants to take that, sure, but I

438
00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,639
Speaker 5: just don't see it happening. I think of the position players,

439
00:21:29,880 --> 00:21:32,560
Speaker 5: pin Tar's most likely to go of that group, and

440
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,639
Speaker 5: we already spoke about Pouch, Shard and mccambley, and I

441
00:21:35,640 --> 00:21:38,000
Speaker 5: guess if a team wants monte Verde, by all means,

442
00:21:38,119 --> 00:21:38,960
Speaker 5: he could go to.

443
00:21:39,440 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 2: The name I look at and you guys can get

444
00:21:41,280 --> 00:21:43,320
Speaker 2: some giggles, and I don't think they should have protected him.

445
00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,760
Speaker 2: But mccambley, he can make a team kind of decently happy.

446
00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,240
Speaker 2: I think this is what is his third year coming

447
00:21:48,240 --> 00:21:50,080
Speaker 2: out of the bullpen, after being developed as a starter

448
00:21:50,200 --> 00:21:52,680
Speaker 2: for some reason for three years too long. Coming out

449
00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,040
Speaker 2: of the twenty twenty draft, he just has that really

450
00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:57,760
Speaker 2: nasty breaking ball that I think it's worth taking a

451
00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:58,280
Speaker 2: flyer on.

452
00:21:58,440 --> 00:22:02,000
Speaker 4: If you're some capital team elsewhere. I think he's a

453
00:22:02,119 --> 00:22:03,160
Speaker 4: name that I said.

454
00:22:03,160 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have protected him obviously, but I think he's

455
00:22:06,040 --> 00:22:08,280
Speaker 2: a name that you could see flyoff in the later

456
00:22:08,359 --> 00:22:11,199
Speaker 2: rounds of his Rule five to draft because he, like I.

457
00:22:11,200 --> 00:22:11,919
Speaker 4: Said, it's a reliever.

458
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,159
Speaker 2: He's got some decent stuff, some sort of prospect pedigree,

459
00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:18,200
Speaker 2: and is I think he can help some teams out.

460
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Speaker 6: I agree with you about that, honestly, because I just

461
00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:25,200
Speaker 6: I think that there is there. We saw last season

462
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:27,680
Speaker 6: a lot of teams kind of struggled with having some

463
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,760
Speaker 6: really poor performers in their bullpen, and a guy like mccambley,

464
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,159
Speaker 6: he had a very good season. I mean, this is

465
00:22:35,160 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 6: the guy who, potentially, I think a lot of teams

466
00:22:37,760 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 6: will see that he has stuff that can actually play

467
00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,240
Speaker 6: in the big leagues and could be at least, if

468
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:46,200
Speaker 6: not a great reliever, at least a little bit better

469
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 6: than some of the guys that are really struggling towards

470
00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:49,080
Speaker 6: the bottom right now.

471
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Speaker 2: And it's not his fault that he was kept going

472
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Speaker 2: out as a starter every fifth day. Since he's been

473
00:22:54,760 --> 00:22:57,080
Speaker 2: moving the bullpen, he's striking out significantly more batter string

474
00:22:57,160 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 2: him more than eleven per nine traking a lot of

475
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: right handed hit as well. It's just it was so

476
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 2: blatantly clear that he was not gonna work out as

477
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,160
Speaker 2: a starter that unfortunately took I guess the previous regime

478
00:23:07,160 --> 00:23:09,560
Speaker 2: a little bit longer to realize that. And yeah, I

479
00:23:09,600 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 2: think he's a sneaky name that we could see floated

480
00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: around during the winter meetings.

481
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Speaker 5: Yeah, and just for for those like they could only

482
00:23:19,040 --> 00:23:21,080
Speaker 5: go in the first round. After that, I believe they

483
00:23:21,119 --> 00:23:23,480
Speaker 5: can't go. I'm pretty sure is how this works. So

484
00:23:24,040 --> 00:23:26,240
Speaker 5: if if you were not selected within the first round

485
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,280
Speaker 5: of this draft, the Rule five drugs, which is the

486
00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:32,400
Speaker 5: major league portion of the draft, then then you look

487
00:23:32,440 --> 00:23:35,280
Speaker 5: at like the double A names and all those guys later.

488
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:42,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why I'm here to correct you. Right,

489
00:23:43,960 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 1: there was two rounds. What can I clarify there are

490
00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 1: there are actually two rounds of the major league base

491
00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,960
Speaker 1: To keep in mind that I wanted to they could

492
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Speaker 1: actually pick two separate guys in the Rule five in

493
00:23:55,760 --> 00:23:59,480
Speaker 1: the same year. It has happened before, but usually the Marlin.

494
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: The Marlins did it with MBA and PreK Craves. Am

495
00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,400
Speaker 1: I right? Yeah? Yeah, that was That was a bunch

496
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:08,040
Speaker 1: of years ago. That was twenty eighteen years ago, twenty

497
00:24:08,119 --> 00:24:09,960
Speaker 1: I think that might have been the twenty seventeen going

498
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,240
Speaker 1: into twenty eighteen. That's a long time ago. You're allowed

499
00:24:13,240 --> 00:24:15,800
Speaker 1: to do it. It usually is unusual, but because it.

500
00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,240
Speaker 5: Is hard exactly, that's why no one cares about the

501
00:24:18,240 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 5: second round, because if you pass in the first one,

502
00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,840
Speaker 5: you're going to pass in the second one most likely.

503
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,040
Speaker 1: So then after the major league phase is the minor

504
00:24:24,119 --> 00:24:27,280
Speaker 1: league phase, and this is harder to cover just because

505
00:24:27,359 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: it's more secretive where guys. The guys that are available

506
00:24:31,400 --> 00:24:33,360
Speaker 1: in the minor league phase are the ones that are

507
00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:36,879
Speaker 1: not put on the Triple A reserve list during the

508
00:24:36,920 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: course of the season, So you protect you have forty

509
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:41,399
Speaker 1: guys on a forty man roster, and then you have

510
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:44,399
Speaker 1: another thirty eight guys that go onto the Triple A

511
00:24:44,600 --> 00:24:48,320
Speaker 1: reserve list at the same time, but that is not

512
00:24:48,359 --> 00:24:50,160
Speaker 1: actually public to us, so we only kind of find

513
00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:53,199
Speaker 1: out about that after the fact. It includes everybody that

514
00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 1: is on this current Triple A roster. For example, all

515
00:24:55,880 --> 00:24:58,480
Speaker 1: these guys we know are there on the reserve list,

516
00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: and there are some that aren't even Rule five eligible

517
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: that may take up spots right now if they finished

518
00:25:05,040 --> 00:25:08,159
Speaker 1: the year in Triple A, like Robbie Snelling or Thomas White,

519
00:25:08,640 --> 00:25:10,560
Speaker 1: and you have to make some choices there. The guys

520
00:25:10,560 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 1: that fall through the cracks of the minor league phase,

521
00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,720
Speaker 1: they can become a Dane Myers. For example, Marlins got

522
00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:19,119
Speaker 1: Dane Myers is that minor league rule five thick because

523
00:25:19,359 --> 00:25:22,160
Speaker 1: he was so overlooked by his previous organization, the Tigers.

524
00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,400
Speaker 1: They didn't even put him on that Triple A reserve list.

525
00:25:24,440 --> 00:25:27,040
Speaker 1: He was way buried on their priority list and they

526
00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: didn't realize that he was going to get taken. I mean,

527
00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:31,879
Speaker 1: the most famous example in Marlon's history of a minor

528
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:36,040
Speaker 1: league phase Rule five thick making good was Justin Borr.

529
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,600
Speaker 1: Justin Borr was way down on the Cubs pecking order

530
00:25:40,600 --> 00:25:42,760
Speaker 1: and the Marlins were able to pry him, start him

531
00:25:42,760 --> 00:25:45,720
Speaker 1: in Triple A and then he debuted later on that

532
00:25:46,160 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 1: upcoming year. So yeah, there's a lot of stuff going

533
00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:53,000
Speaker 1: on here, and ultimately you don't want to dive. I

534
00:25:53,040 --> 00:25:54,760
Speaker 1: don't want to spend too much time diving into it,

535
00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,359
Speaker 1: just because realistically, guys that go on the minor league phase,

536
00:25:58,440 --> 00:26:02,160
Speaker 1: the success rate of those guys turning into anything moving

537
00:26:02,200 --> 00:26:04,840
Speaker 1: forward is just so low and I don't want to

538
00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:08,119
Speaker 1: squeeze too much out of that. But this is a

539
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,639
Speaker 1: look at some of the guys. Now, these are some names, Alex,

540
00:26:10,680 --> 00:26:12,119
Speaker 1: these are some names in the organization.

541
00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:17,240
Speaker 6: Thats got too much swag to sew, dude.

542
00:26:17,280 --> 00:26:19,359
Speaker 7: I mean, he's got to be he has to be good.

543
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:20,080
Speaker 4: I just know it.

544
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: These these are players that were also Rule five eligible.

545
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 1: They finished the year at the Double A level, and

546
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,520
Speaker 1: some of them have a tiny bit of Triple experience,

547
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: but most of them don't. Jesse Bergen was a guy

548
00:26:31,040 --> 00:26:32,640
Speaker 1: who was keeping an eye on early in the year.

549
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:34,159
Speaker 1: He got off to a good start. He missed like

550
00:26:34,200 --> 00:26:36,720
Speaker 1: two years of his career due to big arm injuries,

551
00:26:37,000 --> 00:26:39,200
Speaker 1: but it's been pitching really well since he came back

552
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 1: from that. It's kind of in that Matt Pushard mold

553
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,000
Speaker 1: where it's not the type of swing and miss stuff

554
00:26:47,000 --> 00:26:49,879
Speaker 1: that gets teams really excited. And even though he pitched

555
00:26:50,160 --> 00:26:52,000
Speaker 1: got outs down the stretch, he never even got his

556
00:26:52,000 --> 00:26:56,080
Speaker 1: opportunity in Jacksonville yet. But that'd be an interesting one

557
00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:57,879
Speaker 1: that it wouldn't be totally shocked at. He's kind of

558
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 1: the one guy here that maybe is sneaks up on

559
00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,560
Speaker 1: somebody and gets that shot. But otherwise the notable name

560
00:27:06,560 --> 00:27:10,360
Speaker 1: here is Yetdy Cape. He was at number one prospect

561
00:27:10,440 --> 00:27:13,479
Speaker 1: in that twenty twenty one international signing class. He's one

562
00:27:13,480 --> 00:27:16,960
Speaker 1: of the more hypes international signings in Marlin's history. And

563
00:27:17,480 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: it looked all right early on. He won Minor League

564
00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,199
Speaker 1: Player of the Year in twenty twenty two, and it

565
00:27:23,359 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 1: just did not progress from there, either offensively or defensively.

566
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:30,040
Speaker 1: We had some even earlier this year. We can we

567
00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:32,199
Speaker 1: can talk about it because Alex Carver is not on

568
00:27:32,359 --> 00:27:36,120
Speaker 1: here to Alex Carver was getting pretty excited about Yetty

569
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: early on this year when he was eating hy Apa

570
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: Lloyd for the gazillion.

571
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:45,920
Speaker 4: Time in the top thirty guys.

572
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:49,800
Speaker 1: But yeah, we ultimately were disciplined. We waited for its

573
00:27:49,840 --> 00:27:52,840
Speaker 1: play out. Unfortunately he got hurt, I believe two separate

574
00:27:52,840 --> 00:27:54,840
Speaker 1: times this year. He finished the year on the IL

575
00:27:55,359 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: in Pensacola, shortly after he got promoted. He spent a

576
00:27:58,080 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: lot of these this year at DH was even second

577
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:03,159
Speaker 1: base or DH and occasionally third. But this is a

578
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: guy that was the initial hope is that he'd be

579
00:28:07,320 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: a real long term shortstop candidate, and it's just he

580
00:28:11,000 --> 00:28:14,000
Speaker 1: has not done much, either offensively or defensively to make

581
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: that work. So even though he's still young relatively, but

582
00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 1: he just turned twenty three, so I mean, there's hope

583
00:28:20,160 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 1: that's something interesting happens there, but unless you actually watch

584
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:25,679
Speaker 1: him play, and I watch him play, and it's just

585
00:28:26,720 --> 00:28:30,080
Speaker 1: it's unfortunately, it's just it's really unlikely that things are

586
00:28:30,080 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: going to materialize. So if he sticks around, then at

587
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,120
Speaker 1: less the Marlins have a couple more years to try

588
00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 1: to get something going on there.

589
00:28:38,560 --> 00:28:40,479
Speaker 2: I wasn't inder the oppression that he's a release candidate

590
00:28:40,520 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: if he doesn't get selected and he goes gets off

591
00:28:42,440 --> 00:28:45,320
Speaker 2: to another slow start or wherever that may be in

592
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,520
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six, that I think you'll see him released

593
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:49,719
Speaker 2: before the mid season.

594
00:28:50,680 --> 00:28:54,840
Speaker 5: It's so crazy because what was it, twenty twenty two,

595
00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,600
Speaker 5: twenty three, This guy out was like a top five

596
00:28:57,720 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 5: top ten prospect in our list, and we consider him

597
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,880
Speaker 5: the best position player prospect that won't the system again.

598
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:07,920
Speaker 5: It was a really bad system. But for him to

599
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 5: be where he was at that point though, and to

600
00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 5: completely fall off the list, and he did bounce he

601
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,160
Speaker 5: did semi bounce back, but as Eli noted, most of

602
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,360
Speaker 5: it as a boy, he had one O seven w

603
00:29:17,520 --> 00:29:20,840
Speaker 5: RC plus, but like, not only fall off the list.

604
00:29:20,960 --> 00:29:24,840
Speaker 2: I there's what around one hundred and twenty ball players

605
00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,000
Speaker 2: in this system Stateside?

606
00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 4: Anyway, he's probably top one ten. It's not even unfathable

607
00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 4: the drop on.

608
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,360
Speaker 1: Come on, that's better.

609
00:29:36,560 --> 00:29:40,600
Speaker 5: I want to go that are there twenty players that

610
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 5: are better?

611
00:29:40,920 --> 00:29:43,720
Speaker 4: I don't think so. Are there eleven that don't? Genuinely

612
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:48,920
Speaker 4: he's out there? It's two. I think it's three billion dollars?

613
00:29:49,040 --> 00:29:52,440
Speaker 4: Eli was it two for the sunning bonus for Edie?

614
00:29:53,040 --> 00:29:55,400
Speaker 1: I haven't committed its memory because I'm a sick o.

615
00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:57,200
Speaker 1: It was three point five million.

616
00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:01,680
Speaker 5: That's like one of the higher signing bonus too, and

617
00:30:01,760 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 5: that's what got us a major league As far as

618
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:05,520
Speaker 5: I can remember.

619
00:30:05,560 --> 00:30:10,040
Speaker 1: It's the third highest international signing bonus in Marwn's history.

620
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:14,200
Speaker 1: Number one Victor Victor Mesa. And he's kind of on

621
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:17,560
Speaker 1: that trajectory where I don't you could say it's all

622
00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:20,000
Speaker 1: off too. And then Salas is number two at three

623
00:30:20,000 --> 00:30:22,280
Speaker 1: point seven million. Obviously a lot of time on that

624
00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: one to see how it plays out.

625
00:30:25,520 --> 00:30:29,400
Speaker 5: He's out well, I mean again, he played in low Ay,

626
00:30:29,560 --> 00:30:30,920
Speaker 5: so you got to get him a break. But let's

627
00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:32,240
Speaker 5: see where we have him on I think we have

628
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,760
Speaker 5: like number five on the list.

629
00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 1: Is that Salas?

630
00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,280
Speaker 4: Yeah, kend.

631
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 5: I'm trying to find this a great site. Takes the

632
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 5: water up sometimes.

633
00:30:44,520 --> 00:30:44,960
Speaker 4: Where is he?

634
00:30:45,680 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: He's number he's number six, and we we started him

635
00:30:50,840 --> 00:30:53,040
Speaker 5: as the best position player prospect.

636
00:30:53,600 --> 00:30:58,120
Speaker 1: So I'll start sprinkling in some of the live chat

637
00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: comments we're getting because a lot of people will have

638
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:03,560
Speaker 1: things on their mind about VMJ, speaking of Victor Victor.

639
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,760
Speaker 1: Whether VMJ will make the team this year still too

640
00:31:05,840 --> 00:31:09,760
Speaker 1: early to say, but the fact that another I want

641
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:12,840
Speaker 1: to touch on something really nerdy about the Joey Weimer thing.

642
00:31:12,840 --> 00:31:15,040
Speaker 1: You guys saw early in the offseason. Guys got to

643
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: sweeze off the roster, They got outrighted to the Miners,

644
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: and then they elected free agency Balente Beozo gone. Who

645
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:28,680
Speaker 1: are the other guys in that department that now, Yeah,

646
00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 1: Joey Wiamer because he just got drafted. He's a relatively

647
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:36,440
Speaker 1: new professional player. He's been around since twenty twenty. If

648
00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:39,520
Speaker 1: he clears Waivers gets outrighted to the Miners, Marlins actually

649
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: keep him for another year because he still needs another

650
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,520
Speaker 1: year of minor league service In order to be a

651
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: minor league free agent, and he's never been outrighted to

652
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:50,440
Speaker 1: the minors before. So even though we mentioned before caught

653
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,560
Speaker 1: stuff guard a little bit that Weimer was the one

654
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:54,520
Speaker 1: that got squeezed off right now, part of the thinking

655
00:31:54,600 --> 00:31:55,920
Speaker 1: is he was one of the few guys on the

656
00:31:56,040 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 1: roster that actually does not have the right to elect

657
00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: minor league free agency yet if he clears still a

658
00:32:02,200 --> 00:32:04,480
Speaker 1: few days left until we know for sure whether or

659
00:32:04,480 --> 00:32:07,280
Speaker 1: not he cleared waivers or not. But that's kind of

660
00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: an opportunity for Bendix to have his key, have his

661
00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:13,560
Speaker 1: cake and eat it too, as I say, because you

662
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:16,120
Speaker 1: know he gets squeezed out the roster. There's as long

663
00:32:16,160 --> 00:32:18,200
Speaker 1: as he clears waivers, they'll actually be able to hold

664
00:32:18,240 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: on to him for another year. And it's the crazier

665
00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:23,280
Speaker 1: things have happened. You guys get squeezed off from forty man.

666
00:32:23,360 --> 00:32:25,400
Speaker 1: He'll still be at spring training as an NL, right

667
00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,760
Speaker 1: and maybe he earns somehself back into the equation at

668
00:32:28,760 --> 00:32:31,800
Speaker 1: some point in the near future. Anyway, on VMJ, well,

669
00:32:31,880 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: we'll have to see for now for the moment, because

670
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,920
Speaker 1: he another outfielder got sqeezed off, not him. That helps

671
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,920
Speaker 1: him out a little bit. Yeah, with VMJ, it's a

672
00:32:42,000 --> 00:32:46,200
Speaker 1: pretty crucial year and we'll see. You know, in my

673
00:32:46,480 --> 00:32:49,400
Speaker 1: off season blueprint thing, I thought he was a trade

674
00:32:49,400 --> 00:32:51,680
Speaker 1: candidate just because I don't think there's a clear path

675
00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: to him getting regular playing time with the Marlins moving forward.

676
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 6: But you should see, I mean, he'll show up on

677
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:00,720
Speaker 6: the team at some point in time, probably because of

678
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:03,680
Speaker 6: an injury. But I mean the idea of him being

679
00:33:03,720 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 6: like a regular starter is insane considering how deep the

680
00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,320
Speaker 6: outfield is right now and how little he has contributed

681
00:33:09,360 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 6: thus far.

682
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,400
Speaker 2: And left handed hitters as well, who you know, I

683
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:15,040
Speaker 2: just don't see an avenue for Victor.

684
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:19,320
Speaker 5: It's unfortunate because the injuries have killed him too. That's

685
00:33:19,360 --> 00:33:20,920
Speaker 5: the other side of it too, when when he was

686
00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 5: healthy last year and even this year, like you solid,

687
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:27,080
Speaker 5: like he was a good player, and I think he's

688
00:33:27,120 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 5: a fine fourth outfielder at this point. But yeah, and

689
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,000
Speaker 5: on the weim were end, like he didn't make a

690
00:33:33,000 --> 00:33:35,520
Speaker 5: semi good impression. I think in that stint that he

691
00:33:35,600 --> 00:33:37,480
Speaker 5: was here and I know we already spoke about it,

692
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:40,560
Speaker 5: but like you know, he he gave me like the

693
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:42,680
Speaker 5: Derek kill vibe and like the sense like they brought

694
00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 5: him in late into the year and he made a

695
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 5: good impression. Like I would, I would hope he stays

696
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,840
Speaker 5: around because he's good depth and you would always like

697
00:33:49,840 --> 00:33:52,160
Speaker 5: to have good depth wherever it is, at any position,

698
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:54,560
Speaker 5: and I think that's what he is. And he's a

699
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,240
Speaker 5: nice outfield option with a lot of power and uh

700
00:33:58,280 --> 00:34:00,640
Speaker 5: he showed some of that power early on and uh

701
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:03,040
Speaker 5: and is well at the moment Marlon's tenure.

702
00:34:05,720 --> 00:34:08,160
Speaker 1: In terms about the question whether how much money the

703
00:34:08,200 --> 00:34:10,400
Speaker 1: Marrolin's are going to be spending this off season, I

704
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,239
Speaker 1: remain skeptical until I see otherwise, even though it makes

705
00:34:14,280 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 1: all the sense in the world for them to be

706
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:18,440
Speaker 1: more involved in free agency than the past, because of

707
00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 1: how few commitments are on the books right now. Yeah,

708
00:34:21,680 --> 00:34:27,279
Speaker 1: we're gonna have to see how it plays out. There's Yeah,

709
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,360
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of guys available on the market,

710
00:34:29,880 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 1: so almost all of them are there, thank you.

711
00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:40,840
Speaker 5: How about Isaac and I are working on a Winter

712
00:34:40,920 --> 00:34:44,200
Speaker 5: Meetings like guide and at the bottom you'll you'll be

713
00:34:44,200 --> 00:34:45,600
Speaker 5: surprised some of the names that are.

714
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:46,879
Speaker 1: As solid names out there.

715
00:34:47,000 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 5: Yeah, like the Devil Williams one, the Devin Williams one

716
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 5: is already out there, so yeah, that one was one

717
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:55,359
Speaker 5: of them, and yeah there's another one there that it's

718
00:34:55,480 --> 00:34:59,760
Speaker 5: very enticing, which I don't want to spoil it because

719
00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 5: I want people to read the thing.

720
00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:07,320
Speaker 8: Any names are df A that you like, Jake Frayley.

721
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:14,560
Speaker 9: Yeah, we don't need to bring that, don't need this right, Yes,

722
00:35:14,640 --> 00:35:16,160
Speaker 9: this happens to be the list of guys that were

723
00:35:16,520 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 9: d FAD by their previous teams yesterday in the aftermath.

724
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:27,279
Speaker 1: Yeah, only one of these guys is going well, a

725
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:30,000
Speaker 1: couple of I mean, Frankie montaze Is is hurt and

726
00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:31,880
Speaker 1: he's just gonna miss all that year anyway, he's a

727
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:34,719
Speaker 1: free agent. And then Ryan Rawlison, he got traded to

728
00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 1: the Braves, so they're gonna turn him into an elite

729
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,399
Speaker 1: setup men out of nowhere, as they have done quite

730
00:35:40,440 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 1: a few times in the past. You guys mentioned Nick

731
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:45,000
Speaker 1: en Wright, who good for him to make it up

732
00:35:45,040 --> 00:35:48,799
Speaker 1: to the majors. For anybody that is unfamiliar the Marlins.

733
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:51,000
Speaker 1: He was speaking of Rule five picks. The Marlins made

734
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:54,480
Speaker 1: him their Rule five pick three years ago. And he

735
00:35:54,560 --> 00:35:58,000
Speaker 1: looks like a set it and forget it, a guy

736
00:35:58,000 --> 00:36:00,640
Speaker 1: that would improve your bullpen, just a really safe reliever

737
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 1: that Britain performing well in the upper miners and he

738
00:36:04,200 --> 00:36:07,000
Speaker 1: like almost immediately after the Rule five, he gets diagnosed

739
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:12,160
Speaker 1: with cancer with I believe it was Hodgkins lymphoma, and

740
00:36:12,400 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: most of the off season and during spring trending as well,

741
00:36:15,320 --> 00:36:18,040
Speaker 1: continue to get treatment for it. So we reached a

742
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:19,920
Speaker 1: point where he's able to return to pitching, but he

743
00:36:20,040 --> 00:36:22,279
Speaker 1: just was not nearly as sharp as he used to be.

744
00:36:22,480 --> 00:36:24,160
Speaker 1: In the course of that twenty twenty three season, they

745
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 1: returned him to Cleveland, and then two years later, after

746
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:31,239
Speaker 1: fighting through more actual pitching injuries to his arm, he

747
00:36:31,239 --> 00:36:32,759
Speaker 1: gets up to the big leagues this past year and

748
00:36:32,800 --> 00:36:35,799
Speaker 1: he pitched pretty well and then got hurt again. Unfortunately.

749
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: I believe he did finish the year on the IL

750
00:36:38,000 --> 00:36:41,040
Speaker 1: with another arm related injury, but in a small sample

751
00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:44,799
Speaker 1: he had good success. Just a really cool story the

752
00:36:44,800 --> 00:36:46,759
Speaker 1: fact that he at least made it to the big

753
00:36:46,840 --> 00:36:49,960
Speaker 1: leagues and somebody that if he is healthy, really nice outlook.

754
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:53,160
Speaker 1: A couple of the trending names that came up in

755
00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:57,239
Speaker 1: the immediate after Methodists move Nathaniel Lowe. We mentioned him

756
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,600
Speaker 1: on the site Lewis Adio Weiss included him as a

757
00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:03,480
Speaker 1: guy that made a lot of sense. He's the guy

758
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:05,719
Speaker 1: that just got squeezed out of the Red Sox plans,

759
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: but did played decently well for them down the stretch

760
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:14,719
Speaker 1: of last season. And then jj Bude, who last year

761
00:37:14,760 --> 00:37:17,360
Speaker 1: in twenty twenty four, I should say he actually seeing

762
00:37:17,440 --> 00:37:20,560
Speaker 1: everybody's expectations, became close to an everyday player. But that

763
00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 1: was sandwiched in between pretty mediocre years with Oakland or

764
00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 1: what the a's I should say in twenty three and

765
00:37:26,680 --> 00:37:28,360
Speaker 1: then last year in twenty twenty five. He spent a

766
00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640
Speaker 1: lot this past year in the miners. He did hit

767
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:33,719
Speaker 1: a home run against the Marlins last year that I

768
00:37:34,360 --> 00:37:34,600
Speaker 1: know that.

769
00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:36,799
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, yeah.

770
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 1: He got an interview with him as well when he

771
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:41,480
Speaker 1: was in Loan depot for his first time back in

772
00:37:41,760 --> 00:37:43,640
Speaker 1: revenge capacity.

773
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 5: So with Ton Gunter in there too, remember Sean Gunter,

774
00:37:48,200 --> 00:37:49,000
Speaker 5: I do, And you know.

775
00:37:48,960 --> 00:37:51,360
Speaker 2: Eli's a very generous guy to to say that his

776
00:37:51,480 --> 00:37:54,560
Speaker 2: good season was sandwiched between two mediocre seasons for Blade.

777
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 2: Those were two some war replacement level of years as

778
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 2: well as sub six seventy ohps.

779
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:01,960
Speaker 4: He is just im was surprised he stayed on the

780
00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:03,520
Speaker 4: active roster all the year or most of the year

781
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 4: for the for the Athletics. It was really a been

782
00:38:06,480 --> 00:38:08,359
Speaker 4: a tough start for this young man's major league career.

783
00:38:09,160 --> 00:38:12,080
Speaker 5: Yeah. The only other the only other name I guess

784
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,480
Speaker 5: worth noting would be Toglia Toglia.

785
00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,719
Speaker 7: Micke He's a one nine.

786
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,520
Speaker 5: Struck out a lot though, And there was a year

787
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,719
Speaker 5: was it like two years ago was actually good?

788
00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, he had he was two more player two years ago.

789
00:38:27,440 --> 00:38:29,880
Speaker 8: Or in twenty four he had like twenty five home runs?

790
00:38:29,880 --> 00:38:34,319
Speaker 8: Who was every day for the in Colorado. Yeah, he's

791
00:38:34,360 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 8: worse than JJ B Kevin.

792
00:38:36,600 --> 00:38:37,120
Speaker 5: I'm sure.

793
00:38:37,120 --> 00:38:38,839
Speaker 6: Sure in twenty twenty four, even in that good season,

794
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:40,600
Speaker 6: I don't think he averaged more than like I think

795
00:38:40,800 --> 00:38:42,200
Speaker 6: twenty three if I'm not mistaken.

796
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 7: I mean he even even at the time.

797
00:38:44,480 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 5: Okay, you know what, I retracted my statement. They only

798
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 5: they only remember him because he had twenty five home

799
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:52,840
Speaker 5: runs and he hit two weeks. You know what. Honestly,

800
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 5: I don't want any of these guys except Nathaniel though

801
00:38:54,840 --> 00:38:55,359
Speaker 5: on this list.

802
00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:57,600
Speaker 8: Yeah.

803
00:38:57,840 --> 00:38:59,640
Speaker 1: I think the one that is cut off, the one

804
00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,040
Speaker 1: that's kind on the bottom of the screen is Christopher Morrell.

805
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:05,480
Speaker 1: And I did see some people out for him. That's

806
00:39:05,520 --> 00:39:08,359
Speaker 1: an interesting one. Because it's a guy that has unquestioned

807
00:39:08,719 --> 00:39:11,399
Speaker 1: above average power, if not plus power. He's a right

808
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,520
Speaker 1: handed hitter, and Marlins at this moment, I think if

809
00:39:14,560 --> 00:39:17,720
Speaker 1: they are forced to choose, they lean more towards righty's

810
00:39:17,760 --> 00:39:20,480
Speaker 1: and lefties to fill out their lineup, but they could

811
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,399
Speaker 1: he has versatility. I guess he's got to plays several

812
00:39:25,400 --> 00:39:29,160
Speaker 1: different positions. Not particularly good defensively at any of those positions,

813
00:39:29,160 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 1: whether it's been second base, third base, or the corner

814
00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,040
Speaker 1: outfield spot, so I don't know exactly where it'd fit in.

815
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: But with the Marlins in this situation, if they feel

816
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 1: like they can make a tweak and get them right,

817
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:43,200
Speaker 1: then I don't think they're worried too much. I think

818
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:46,440
Speaker 1: they just think he could contribute. But that makes you think,

819
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,520
Speaker 1: is he really that much better than like a Javier

820
00:39:48,560 --> 00:39:52,320
Speaker 1: Sonoha type or sonha is. It's a completely different offensive

821
00:39:52,320 --> 00:39:54,960
Speaker 1: skill set, but in terms of the actual value, Snoha

822
00:39:55,000 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: plays all the same positions and then some and at

823
00:39:57,680 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 1: least is going to get on base okay rate and

824
00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 1: even hit for a surprising amount of extra base hits

825
00:40:04,239 --> 00:40:06,080
Speaker 1: later on towards the end of the season. It might

826
00:40:06,120 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 1: be a little redundance have two versatile right handed hitters,

827
00:40:11,000 --> 00:40:13,879
Speaker 1: and when yeah, when you already even though they bring

828
00:40:13,920 --> 00:40:16,520
Speaker 1: different things to the table, Morel has didn't really hit

829
00:40:16,600 --> 00:40:19,000
Speaker 1: much at all when he came over to the Rays

830
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:21,759
Speaker 1: in the middle of twenty twenty four, where the power

831
00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: is still there occasionally, but still below average offensively overall

832
00:40:26,120 --> 00:40:30,560
Speaker 1: when you take everything into account. And that's an interesting one. Certainly,

833
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,040
Speaker 1: if it's a minor league deal, that would make all

834
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:34,960
Speaker 1: of sense in the world. But in terms of actually

835
00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:37,120
Speaker 1: guaranteeing him anything.

836
00:40:39,120 --> 00:40:41,520
Speaker 5: Has done nothing at any stop. That's that's a very

837
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 5: interesting take.

838
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,560
Speaker 7: That's a that's a bold One's.

839
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:47,000
Speaker 5: Really that's a really bad take, is what it is.

840
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:49,839
Speaker 6: That's I just think that if we're not going to

841
00:40:50,000 --> 00:40:51,840
Speaker 6: spend money on a first baseman the way that we

842
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,600
Speaker 6: should spend money on a first baseman, I mean, Nate

843
00:40:54,680 --> 00:40:57,480
Speaker 6: low Is, I mean a pretty serviceable option. I mean,

844
00:40:58,000 --> 00:41:00,919
Speaker 6: I just can't imagine it being worse than Wagaman, right.

845
00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 4: I do think that they.

846
00:41:02,120 --> 00:41:04,520
Speaker 2: Are for now anyway, they are aiming a little bit

847
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 2: higher when it comes to outside the organization options at

848
00:41:08,040 --> 00:41:10,239
Speaker 2: first base. I don't think they're enamored with anything they

849
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,239
Speaker 2: have in house. For obvious reasons. I think you're gonna

850
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,040
Speaker 2: look at least a majorly free agent type deal or

851
00:41:16,080 --> 00:41:16,760
Speaker 2: a change.

852
00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:18,440
Speaker 4: Of position with you. We can name a couple of

853
00:41:18,440 --> 00:41:19,440
Speaker 4: options in that case.

854
00:41:19,880 --> 00:41:22,200
Speaker 2: But I think you, for the first time in a

855
00:41:22,239 --> 00:41:24,080
Speaker 2: long time, Roland fans can actually aim a little bit

856
00:41:24,160 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 2: higher than NLO. You might look at some of these

857
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:29,080
Speaker 2: guys remnor League free agents like Christopher Morrell or the

858
00:41:29,160 --> 00:41:31,160
Speaker 2: low but I think for in terms of major LEA

859
00:41:31,200 --> 00:41:33,000
Speaker 2: free agent signings, they may be able to aim a

860
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:36,279
Speaker 2: little bit higher, but below Peterelanzo obviously, but I think

861
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: Ryan O'Hearn and Paul gold Schmid types. I think that's

862
00:41:40,239 --> 00:41:41,719
Speaker 2: within the realm of possibility.

863
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,160
Speaker 5: I think it's realistic. If you're looking, I mean, then

864
00:41:44,280 --> 00:41:46,920
Speaker 5: there's a heart o hearn. He he was awesome. I

865
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:48,839
Speaker 5: believe it was an all start to this past year,

866
00:41:48,880 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 5: like how long you can keep going to in San Diego.

867
00:41:52,600 --> 00:41:54,480
Speaker 5: It wasn't I don't think it was the same exact production,

868
00:41:54,600 --> 00:41:57,400
Speaker 5: but like it was still really good. And he's the

869
00:41:57,440 --> 00:41:59,279
Speaker 5: guy who's really gotten to go in these last couple

870
00:41:59,280 --> 00:41:59,640
Speaker 5: of years.

871
00:41:59,680 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 4: He he would make a lot of sense. You would

872
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:02,399
Speaker 4: make a lot of sense.

873
00:42:02,440 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 5: And I know Christina's mentioned it too, and I appreciate

874
00:42:05,000 --> 00:42:08,960
Speaker 5: in the common mentions like make a trade, get Yandy.

875
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:13,399
Speaker 4: That that would be all that.

876
00:42:14,000 --> 00:42:17,320
Speaker 5: Yeah, the great guy too, yeah right.

877
00:42:17,160 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 2: Below unlikely though, but it is that's a better option

878
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 2: than yeah.

879
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,000
Speaker 1: And if they were gonna do it, I felt it

880
00:42:23,040 --> 00:42:26,600
Speaker 1: would have been a lot more appropriate when Kevin he

881
00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:28,920
Speaker 1: brought this idea up at the deadline last year, if

882
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:31,319
Speaker 1: they were going to get more than an additional half

883
00:42:31,360 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: season from him. If in the middle of last year

884
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:35,560
Speaker 1: and they were still sort of in the race and

885
00:42:35,560 --> 00:42:37,960
Speaker 1: they had such an obvious need at first base, they

886
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 1: were going to get a little bit more club control

887
00:42:39,840 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: out of him than I could have seen it come.

888
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 1: And now he did sign an extension quietly before last year.

889
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,680
Speaker 1: That means that he's guaranteed this year and they have

890
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,279
Speaker 1: another club option for twenty twenty seven with him. So

891
00:42:51,360 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 1: it is two years of club control with.

892
00:42:52,920 --> 00:42:56,600
Speaker 5: Him, and it lines up with the standards. Oh well

893
00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 5: in that case, No, I'm just saying, you know the

894
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:02,000
Speaker 5: workout right now.

895
00:43:02,280 --> 00:43:04,879
Speaker 1: I brought this up. I want to bring up this

896
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:08,760
Speaker 1: really quickly again. It was included in my off season blueprint,

897
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:10,520
Speaker 1: but I just wanted to extrapolate on it. A little

898
00:43:10,520 --> 00:43:13,680
Speaker 1: bit about this idea about Augustine moving a first base

899
00:43:13,880 --> 00:43:16,480
Speaker 1: at least in a part time capacity, and I don't

900
00:43:16,480 --> 00:43:18,640
Speaker 1: get where people are coming from with that. They watch

901
00:43:18,760 --> 00:43:21,839
Speaker 1: him play, right, and they know the main deficiency. What's

902
00:43:21,880 --> 00:43:25,479
Speaker 1: the main deficiency that Augustine has. It's catching the ball.

903
00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:28,880
Speaker 1: It's actually receiving the ball, and that is ninety percent

904
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,600
Speaker 1: of what a first baseman does. I know it's a

905
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:35,680
Speaker 1: logical progression for catchers to make from catcher to first base,

906
00:43:36,360 --> 00:43:39,640
Speaker 1: and it's not as detrimental to your team if your

907
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:42,560
Speaker 1: strog left first base the catcher, but he is going

908
00:43:42,560 --> 00:43:44,399
Speaker 1: to strougg left first base if they put him there.

909
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,520
Speaker 1: That's the kind of the one aspect of his game

910
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,560
Speaker 1: that more so than anything else, just catching the ball,

911
00:43:49,640 --> 00:43:51,520
Speaker 1: especially if it's not where it's supposed to be and

912
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 1: he has to make an adjustment. That's the main vulnerability

913
00:43:55,080 --> 00:44:00,000
Speaker 1: with his defense. I don't get that, And kind of

914
00:44:00,000 --> 00:44:02,200
Speaker 1: from the Marlins perspective, I understand why they're being so

915
00:44:02,239 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 1: stubborn about him as a catcher because they're probably thinking

916
00:44:05,239 --> 00:44:07,360
Speaker 1: along those lines that if they move them all the

917
00:44:07,400 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 1: way to the bottom of the defensive spectrum and he's

918
00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,319
Speaker 1: still a minus for them, then that's you know, that's

919
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 1: not really that much. That doesn't help as much, which

920
00:44:15,760 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: is why kind of in my blue print realistically, I

921
00:44:19,480 --> 00:44:20,960
Speaker 1: think he should be a DH for the most part,

922
00:44:21,000 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 1: but I think his secondary position very clearly should be

923
00:44:24,880 --> 00:44:29,000
Speaker 1: a corner outfield spot, particularly left field, because at left

924
00:44:29,040 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: field particular issue now the issue is that he's a

925
00:44:32,560 --> 00:44:36,319
Speaker 1: below average speedster in a way that it's going to

926
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 1: prevent him from getting a certain ball. He'll probably be

927
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:40,760
Speaker 1: a bit of a liability and left field as well,

928
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:44,280
Speaker 1: but I think that is a better chance that depending

929
00:44:44,320 --> 00:44:46,960
Speaker 1: on what sort of conditioning he does, if he's going

930
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:50,360
Speaker 1: to make an adjustment to that position, then maybe his

931
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 1: body type changes a little bit in a way that

932
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 1: makes it not as much of an issue as you

933
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: would think in terms of his range that it's just

934
00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,840
Speaker 1: to me, it's more logical ball back play in that

935
00:45:00,960 --> 00:45:03,120
Speaker 1: first base I never I don't understand the first base stuff.

936
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:07,279
Speaker 1: When you just just understanding where his particular weaknesses are

937
00:45:07,280 --> 00:45:10,560
Speaker 1: as a defender, I think would be really ugly and

938
00:45:10,560 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: frustrating at first base for people that you've seen his

939
00:45:13,080 --> 00:45:16,080
Speaker 1: splits this past year and how much he performs a

940
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 1: lot better when he's dating compared to catcher, like, I

941
00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: feel like that effects might be similar at first base.

942
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:25,279
Speaker 1: If he is the one that is just missing on

943
00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,600
Speaker 1: receiving a ball that should be an ending ending double

944
00:45:27,600 --> 00:45:30,319
Speaker 1: play and it extends the ending and a few run

945
00:45:30,360 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 1: scorer and he they're piling on top of him, I

946
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: feel like that's gonna be another That's a situation where

947
00:45:37,680 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 1: I feel like he could be the scapegoat in a

948
00:45:40,719 --> 00:45:42,959
Speaker 1: lot of in the same way, even though it's a

949
00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:47,080
Speaker 1: lower down on the defensive spectrum, there's still a lot

950
00:45:47,120 --> 00:45:49,000
Speaker 1: of players that involve a first basement and I just

951
00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:52,160
Speaker 1: don't think that's that's not gonna end well. In my opinion,

952
00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,719
Speaker 1: I think is a better chance, whatever slim chance he

953
00:45:54,760 --> 00:45:57,160
Speaker 1: has of being a competent defender. I feel it's better

954
00:45:57,320 --> 00:45:58,839
Speaker 1: in the left field a first place.

955
00:46:00,000 --> 00:46:02,440
Speaker 2: There's the round about this for obviously, sorry about that,

956
00:46:02,480 --> 00:46:05,560
Speaker 2: but just I didn't ask, and they do seem reluctant

957
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 2: to do for a space. You're you are right about that.

958
00:46:07,600 --> 00:46:09,960
Speaker 2: They you know we, I think with the Yankees organization

959
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:11,360
Speaker 2: under Rachel Balkovich.

960
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:12,960
Speaker 4: I'm not mistaken. They they He did play some first

961
00:46:12,960 --> 00:46:15,880
Speaker 4: space for the Tampa Torpits and it was really ugly.

962
00:46:16,120 --> 00:46:17,759
Speaker 4: All pretty much as ugly as it is.

963
00:46:18,200 --> 00:46:20,360
Speaker 5: That's what it was really bad.

964
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:20,799
Speaker 1: Like.

965
00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,399
Speaker 4: Yeah, so I know they weren't going to do again.

966
00:46:23,800 --> 00:46:25,720
Speaker 4: So what the dilemma they're in is there?

967
00:46:25,920 --> 00:46:28,319
Speaker 2: The last resort would be DH but they don't want

968
00:46:28,320 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: to move a twenty three year old top hitting prospect

969
00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:31,960
Speaker 2: to a full time date.

970
00:46:32,040 --> 00:46:32,640
Speaker 4: You just don't do that.

971
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,480
Speaker 2: You let him try and figure out Catrin. If you

972
00:46:34,480 --> 00:46:36,480
Speaker 2: can't do that, I find it hard to believe they

973
00:46:36,520 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 2: would put him in a corner roule field spot. You

974
00:46:38,480 --> 00:46:40,760
Speaker 2: don't want to just put take that out of left field.

975
00:46:40,840 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: No pun intended to a young kid that's just trying

976
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: to get his feet wet offensively.

977
00:46:45,320 --> 00:46:48,600
Speaker 4: Might deter him that scenario. But they aren't a little

978
00:46:48,600 --> 00:46:49,920
Speaker 4: bit of a pickley. But they knew what they were

979
00:46:49,920 --> 00:46:52,040
Speaker 4: getting when they acquired him, So this isn't you. They

980
00:46:52,040 --> 00:46:52,600
Speaker 4: are prepared.

981
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:54,720
Speaker 2: But I do think you're going to see just a tandem,

982
00:46:54,719 --> 00:46:57,040
Speaker 2: a three way tandem with Hicks maybe getting some first

983
00:46:57,040 --> 00:47:00,520
Speaker 2: base between Ramirez, Mac and Hicks by the plate. I

984
00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:02,080
Speaker 2: think he's gonna catch a lot of games in twenty

985
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 2: twenty six. Maybe thirty forty games would be my guess.

986
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:10,719
Speaker 6: I think that's like if you are considering that there

987
00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 6: needs to be some kind of defensive outlet for Gus.

988
00:47:13,840 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 6: I go back and forth on this myself, but I

989
00:47:15,800 --> 00:47:17,640
Speaker 6: think that where a lot of people come from when

990
00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 6: they're suggesting he goes to first base is because there's

991
00:47:19,480 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 6: availability there stick over in the corner outfield.

992
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 7: It's like, when is he gonna play?

993
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:25,520
Speaker 6: There's so many outfielders that need playtime, and at this

994
00:47:25,600 --> 00:47:28,040
Speaker 6: point time, easily half the bench is outfielders.

995
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,800
Speaker 7: So you know, if you want to give.

996
00:47:30,719 --> 00:47:34,280
Speaker 6: Him consistent defensive playtime, I mean, the first base seems

997
00:47:34,400 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 6: logically like the only place to go outside of continuing

998
00:47:37,640 --> 00:47:39,319
Speaker 6: to waste time behind the plate.

999
00:47:39,440 --> 00:47:42,440
Speaker 7: But I mean, yeah, I think that he's just destined

1000
00:47:42,480 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 7: to be a DH personally, Well, it.

1001
00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:45,800
Speaker 4: Depends on how you value Griff.

1002
00:47:46,640 --> 00:47:49,080
Speaker 2: I think Stours and Marci they're gonna play every single

1003
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,280
Speaker 2: freaking day, and then you've got to see a platoon

1004
00:47:51,280 --> 00:47:54,640
Speaker 2: availability in either corner that Griff is playing. Oh, I

1005
00:47:54,640 --> 00:47:56,640
Speaker 2: don't think they want to play him too much against lefties.

1006
00:47:56,760 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 2: But then you also have Dane, and you have Sonoha,

1007
00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,600
Speaker 2: and you have camp Balderman waiting in the wing.

1008
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:03,160
Speaker 4: So I just don't know. There's much move from.

1009
00:48:03,080 --> 00:48:04,919
Speaker 7: Out potentially Eddie bet Drnandez too.

1010
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 2: Aberta Arnandez was an absolute stunt for the Morrows last year. Well,

1011
00:48:09,640 --> 00:48:12,399
Speaker 2: I very much, and I like that player a lot,

1012
00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 2: so I, like I said, I think unfortunately they're just

1013
00:48:15,280 --> 00:48:18,960
Speaker 2: gonna take the bullet and continue to let him catch

1014
00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:19,359
Speaker 2: a little bit.

1015
00:48:19,400 --> 00:48:21,480
Speaker 4: I will this will be a big year for that development.

1016
00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:23,719
Speaker 2: If they don't see any improvement at all, then you

1017
00:48:23,800 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 2: might see something different.

1018
00:48:25,000 --> 00:48:27,040
Speaker 5: And that's the other thing worth noting too. They are

1019
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,560
Speaker 5: adamant about keeping this guy as a catcher, like they

1020
00:48:31,440 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 5: every person you know we ask or you know, brings

1021
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,440
Speaker 5: it up like they wanted to catch, They wanted to

1022
00:48:37,440 --> 00:48:39,880
Speaker 5: stay there. They want him to remain a catcher. He

1023
00:48:40,000 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 5: wants to. He he shown the wanting to be there

1024
00:48:43,400 --> 00:48:45,839
Speaker 5: to work as much as he needs to to remain

1025
00:48:45,880 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 5: a catcher. Yeah, it's tough to say. All right, let's

1026
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:51,640
Speaker 5: put a twenty one is the twenty three to twenty

1027
00:48:51,680 --> 00:48:54,400
Speaker 5: three year old as a DH already like that early

1028
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:57,400
Speaker 5: in your career, like you're gonna diminish the value and

1029
00:48:57,440 --> 00:49:00,160
Speaker 5: you have to hit the ball really well, like a

1030
00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:03,440
Speaker 5: Kyle Schwarber show hates to have some really good value

1031
00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:07,680
Speaker 5: at the position, and unfortunately he's probably gonna suck at first.

1032
00:49:07,719 --> 00:49:09,400
Speaker 5: And if I had to make a really good estimate,

1033
00:49:09,480 --> 00:49:12,520
Speaker 5: an estimated you know, guest here or a guest, he's

1034
00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,319
Speaker 5: gonna suck in the outfield too. And I just don't

1035
00:49:15,320 --> 00:49:18,360
Speaker 5: see it working out in the outfield. I mean, I

1036
00:49:18,360 --> 00:49:20,160
Speaker 5: know it's a different player, but just look at whorehow

1037
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 5: far on left field. It can't get closer to that.

1038
00:49:23,440 --> 00:49:26,600
Speaker 2: And had Speed had a hell of an arm, and

1039
00:49:26,640 --> 00:49:30,759
Speaker 2: he had some little, you know, some assets out there

1040
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:31,400
Speaker 2: that would.

1041
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,840
Speaker 4: Make him an okay outfielder, and it.

1042
00:49:33,920 --> 00:49:36,439
Speaker 5: Just just does not have them. I hate to break

1043
00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:40,120
Speaker 5: it too, So it is either catcher or nothing.

1044
00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: So, yeah, there's some breaking news to react to on

1045
00:49:47,640 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: Race Glaciers.

1046
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:50,680
Speaker 8: Here we go.

1047
00:49:54,560 --> 00:49:57,399
Speaker 1: One year deal. Yeah, a little bit surprising that it's

1048
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,480
Speaker 1: one year, but also it was one more than I

1049
00:49:59,480 --> 00:50:01,640
Speaker 1: was expecting in terms of the annual average value to

1050
00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:04,959
Speaker 1: get sixteen million for that one year the Braves. Isn't

1051
00:50:04,960 --> 00:50:07,560
Speaker 1: it lovely to have a team that actually announces the

1052
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 1: financial particulars of their signings. That's convenient of them. Yeah,

1053
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,600
Speaker 1: the Braves always move in silence like this, and they

1054
00:50:15,600 --> 00:50:19,200
Speaker 1: typically as we've seen almost every year of the Anthopolis era.

1055
00:50:19,280 --> 00:50:21,000
Speaker 1: They make a lot of moves early in the offseason

1056
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:24,000
Speaker 1: as well, when they like their guys of Glacias. I

1057
00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:26,479
Speaker 1: cannot get out of my minds. One of the single

1058
00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:29,279
Speaker 1: biggest meltdowns in this entire season was this game that

1059
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,160
Speaker 1: the Braves hosted against the d Backs, and it was

1060
00:50:32,160 --> 00:50:34,880
Speaker 1: like an getaway day Madden Nay, and they must have

1061
00:50:34,920 --> 00:50:36,880
Speaker 1: been up like eight or nine runs at some point,

1062
00:50:36,960 --> 00:50:39,400
Speaker 1: and even going into the ninth inning they were up

1063
00:50:39,400 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 1: by like six runs. They brought in Iglesias in the

1064
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:45,640
Speaker 1: middle of that ending and he continued to blow it

1065
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: where that was one of the more devastating losses that

1066
00:50:47,760 --> 00:50:50,560
Speaker 1: any team had all year, where they just had a

1067
00:50:50,600 --> 00:50:53,720
Speaker 1: monstrous lead. I think they even they may have taken

1068
00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:55,840
Speaker 1: some of their guys out of the game because they

1069
00:50:55,880 --> 00:50:58,279
Speaker 1: were up by so much early on, and yet the

1070
00:50:58,440 --> 00:51:00,759
Speaker 1: Dback's rally back in the Glaciers blew it. So he

1071
00:51:00,800 --> 00:51:04,560
Speaker 1: had overall his year this test year. It's good on paper,

1072
00:51:04,680 --> 00:51:07,800
Speaker 1: but there were some really devastating things in there. It

1073
00:51:07,640 --> 00:51:09,759
Speaker 1: wasn't up to the same standard as some of his

1074
00:51:10,280 --> 00:51:13,239
Speaker 1: previous years there. So this is not a guy that

1075
00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,680
Speaker 1: I was all that keen on the Marlins going after

1076
00:51:15,719 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 1: I don't think it's a big loss. So the Braves

1077
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:20,319
Speaker 1: I guess, are a little bit better with him than

1078
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: without him. But personally, yeah, I don't think this is

1079
00:51:23,480 --> 00:51:25,640
Speaker 1: the most efficient use of money. If I was in

1080
00:51:25,760 --> 00:51:27,799
Speaker 1: Atlanta's shoes, I wouldn't have right and all that.

1081
00:51:28,680 --> 00:51:30,839
Speaker 4: Yeah, sorry, that's what I was gonna say. Sixteen million

1082
00:51:30,880 --> 00:51:31,359
Speaker 4: dollars for us.

1083
00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:33,719
Speaker 2: That concerns me because, like you mentioned, didn't have the

1084
00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:36,360
Speaker 2: best of seasons, and so obviously the other three guys

1085
00:51:36,360 --> 00:51:39,080
Speaker 2: that I believe the report on Marlin's life that could

1086
00:51:39,080 --> 00:51:43,239
Speaker 2: be floated for the Marlins or Iglacias, Hellesleafin again and Williams,

1087
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:45,279
Speaker 2: they're all going to get somewhere around this.

1088
00:51:45,480 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 4: So that you know, all this talked about them getting.

1089
00:51:48,239 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 2: One of these free agient relievers really boltstered that bullpen

1090
00:51:51,360 --> 00:51:56,239
Speaker 2: seems slightly less likely. Now that's the market for mid

1091
00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,279
Speaker 2: late inning relievers.

1092
00:51:59,239 --> 00:52:00,520
Speaker 4: So we'll have to say how this goes.

1093
00:52:00,520 --> 00:52:02,120
Speaker 2: Maybe with Devin Williams, for example, you'd have to give

1094
00:52:02,200 --> 00:52:03,880
Speaker 2: him two years or a year in an option year.

1095
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,319
Speaker 2: Who knows, But that's a little bit worried some that's

1096
00:52:07,360 --> 00:52:09,920
Speaker 2: sixty million dollars for one year of Riiseilly Glacier's at

1097
00:52:09,920 --> 00:52:10,799
Speaker 2: thirty five years old.

1098
00:52:11,360 --> 00:52:13,800
Speaker 5: Yeah, I mean his second half of the season was awesome.

1099
00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:16,759
Speaker 5: I wrote about it because he I did mention him

1100
00:52:16,760 --> 00:52:19,520
Speaker 5: as one of the five options for this team, and

1101
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:22,360
Speaker 5: he just started using his fastball so much more and

1102
00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:25,400
Speaker 5: he was so good that fastball was unhittable in the

1103
00:52:25,440 --> 00:52:29,240
Speaker 5: second half. So if that's that's what Atlanta is buying

1104
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:31,400
Speaker 5: in on it, or that's what they're going off of

1105
00:52:31,480 --> 00:52:34,440
Speaker 5: at this point, and rise Els probably just move the

1106
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 5: highest AAV Honestly, at his age where he's at right now,

1107
00:52:38,200 --> 00:52:39,960
Speaker 5: thirty five years old, you got to go with the

1108
00:52:40,000 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 5: most money. And it's not like Atlanta is a terrible

1109
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:45,319
Speaker 5: team either. I mean they weren't good last year, but

1110
00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 5: a lot of it was hampered by injuries. And yeah,

1111
00:52:48,400 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 5: they'll somewhat be in the race again this year, at

1112
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 5: least for a wild card spot. So he goes to

1113
00:52:54,680 --> 00:52:57,920
Speaker 5: a pretty good situation in somewhere where he's familiar.

1114
00:52:58,200 --> 00:53:02,320
Speaker 8: You think this is the peak in terms of reliever contract,

1115
00:53:02,360 --> 00:53:04,640
Speaker 8: You think maybe this might be the most that in terms.

1116
00:53:04,480 --> 00:53:05,080
Speaker 5: Of aa V.

1117
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:09,280
Speaker 4: Gets a little more. Oh yeah, oh yeah.

1118
00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,840
Speaker 1: Robert Suarez right, and I mean in fact, when you

1119
00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: put it that way and people are mentioned in the comments,

1120
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:19,239
Speaker 1: I think the concern is that maybe we underestimated how

1121
00:53:19,360 --> 00:53:21,839
Speaker 1: much relievers are going to get. If he's I don't yeah,

1122
00:53:22,040 --> 00:53:25,440
Speaker 1: unless they view the glaces a lot more optimistically than

1123
00:53:27,280 --> 00:53:31,000
Speaker 1: that man, maybe it will cost even more to get

1124
00:53:31,160 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 1: some of the guys that you actually do trust. We'll

1125
00:53:35,840 --> 00:53:38,720
Speaker 1: have to say what early in the offseason. Another reminder

1126
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: is that like the deals you see at the early

1127
00:53:40,360 --> 00:53:44,360
Speaker 1: point in the offseason can sometimes be outliers when it

1128
00:53:44,360 --> 00:53:46,520
Speaker 1: comes to the rest of the market. Like it doesn't

1129
00:53:46,560 --> 00:53:50,600
Speaker 1: necessarily tie into other deals at the same position, especially

1130
00:53:50,600 --> 00:53:52,960
Speaker 1: in this case where there's some familiarity already between the

1131
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,200
Speaker 1: player and the team, you just have to want to

1132
00:53:55,200 --> 00:53:56,799
Speaker 1: play out to have a better idea in terms of

1133
00:53:56,800 --> 00:53:59,799
Speaker 1: whether this actually is part of a trends or whether

1134
00:53:59,840 --> 00:54:03,440
Speaker 1: the is that outlier that actually doesn't affect other players

1135
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:06,319
Speaker 1: in different situations. I don't have a great read my

1136
00:54:06,600 --> 00:54:09,680
Speaker 1: initial I'd be concerned though, if it does have a connection,

1137
00:54:09,800 --> 00:54:13,120
Speaker 1: because I think there are certainly guys that are valued

1138
00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: more highly. Bringing up Hellsley here, Ryan Helsley is my

1139
00:54:16,640 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 1: guy in terms of the one that I feel is

1140
00:54:19,360 --> 00:54:22,160
Speaker 1: I thought was actually at the high end of the

1141
00:54:22,160 --> 00:54:27,560
Speaker 1: Marlins budget and somebody that also I thought has incredible upside.

1142
00:54:27,719 --> 00:54:30,920
Speaker 1: I feel like pretty confident that he can immediately bounce

1143
00:54:30,920 --> 00:54:33,520
Speaker 1: back to the guy he was two seasons ago. I'm

1144
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:35,960
Speaker 1: not worried about that late season fall off with the Mets.

1145
00:54:36,560 --> 00:54:38,440
Speaker 1: He's a guy that I think has higher upside than

1146
00:54:38,440 --> 00:54:41,480
Speaker 1: Iglesias for sure. And so the question is is it

1147
00:54:41,520 --> 00:54:43,200
Speaker 1: going to cost because the Marlins aren't going to be

1148
00:54:43,400 --> 00:54:46,440
Speaker 1: paying sixteen million a year even on a short term deal.

1149
00:54:46,480 --> 00:54:48,320
Speaker 1: They're not going to do that for a single reliever.

1150
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,520
Speaker 1: When I had Hellsley in mind, I was thinking a

1151
00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:54,880
Speaker 1: couple of years at to get to twenty four million,

1152
00:54:54,960 --> 00:54:57,320
Speaker 1: more like eight to ten million a year at most.

1153
00:54:58,160 --> 00:55:00,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, that is that's a big question. And moving forward,

1154
00:55:00,760 --> 00:55:03,040
Speaker 1: there are I think the relatively good news there are

1155
00:55:03,120 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting relievers out there, so somebody is

1156
00:55:06,000 --> 00:55:08,120
Speaker 1: going to kind of fall through the cracks. There's a

1157
00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:10,800
Speaker 1: there's enough supply so that I don't think that the

1158
00:55:10,880 --> 00:55:15,240
Speaker 1: band is going to be crazy for everybody, but it's

1159
00:55:15,280 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 1: it really is a that's a huge question in terms

1160
00:55:17,400 --> 00:55:20,520
Speaker 1: of how this ties into the other deals that are

1161
00:55:20,560 --> 00:55:22,240
Speaker 1: going to play out.

1162
00:55:23,160 --> 00:55:24,799
Speaker 2: They have a couple of new ones under forty man,

1163
00:55:24,800 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: a push game to shove, and they can't afford any

1164
00:55:26,680 --> 00:55:29,839
Speaker 2: of these, So you know they're couple.

1165
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:32,319
Speaker 5: On the outside looking in with Ecnes Bellgrave too.

1166
00:55:32,600 --> 00:55:35,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, Andrew Chaffin is always available as well because.

1167
00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:37,400
Speaker 2: They need left and relievers. Man, this is ridiculous. They

1168
00:55:37,440 --> 00:55:39,839
Speaker 2: need a left handed reliever. They cannot count on Kay

1169
00:55:39,920 --> 00:55:42,520
Speaker 2: Gibson all year long. Next year, there's no more of

1170
00:55:42,480 --> 00:55:44,280
Speaker 2: any mentioned.

1171
00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:47,040
Speaker 7: Andrew NRDI coming back this year. I just know I

1172
00:55:47,080 --> 00:55:48,040
Speaker 7: feel it in my bones.

1173
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,080
Speaker 4: They're ready for Friday, Bud.

1174
00:55:52,920 --> 00:55:54,840
Speaker 1: A transition because that's one of the last things I

1175
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:56,359
Speaker 1: want to make sure to get to on this pod,

1176
00:55:56,760 --> 00:55:59,120
Speaker 1: the likelihood that there's going to be more roster moves

1177
00:55:59,239 --> 00:56:06,319
Speaker 1: this Friday. Friday is the tender deadline for the Marlins team. Yeah,

1178
00:56:06,360 --> 00:56:10,360
Speaker 1: it applies to anybody that is either pre arbitration eligible

1179
00:56:10,520 --> 00:56:12,640
Speaker 1: or ARB eligible, And it's really the ARB guys that

1180
00:56:12,680 --> 00:56:15,200
Speaker 1: are more significant. Those are the guys that are projected

1181
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:18,279
Speaker 1: for a certain amount of money if the teams retain them.

1182
00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: The Marlins have a relatively small ARB class this year.

1183
00:56:21,360 --> 00:56:23,960
Speaker 1: There it is from MLB trade rumors with their projections

1184
00:56:24,320 --> 00:56:27,160
Speaker 1: for it. Edward Cabrera is the big earner there, and

1185
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,560
Speaker 1: then even him at three point seven million, the fact

1186
00:56:30,600 --> 00:56:32,560
Speaker 1: that he was able to finish the year healthy as

1187
00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:35,120
Speaker 1: a no brainer for them, and most of these are

1188
00:56:35,120 --> 00:56:38,719
Speaker 1: no brainers. Big The biggest question mark of all is

1189
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:43,399
Speaker 1: Andrew Nardi, who we've seen Christina Dinnecolo report was likely

1190
00:56:43,480 --> 00:56:46,959
Speaker 1: to get non tendered, but that has not happened yet,

1191
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:48,919
Speaker 1: so there's still a few days to find out whether

1192
00:56:49,000 --> 00:56:50,879
Speaker 1: or not that does happen one way or the other.

1193
00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,399
Speaker 1: It's because he didn't pitch last year at all. He's

1194
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,799
Speaker 1: barely going to make the league minimum if they retain him.

1195
00:56:55,800 --> 00:56:58,920
Speaker 1: The question is that they feel his back injury is

1196
00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:01,719
Speaker 1: built h enough that he's just not going to be

1197
00:57:02,400 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 1: usable moving forward. It was a very vague injury this

1198
00:57:06,280 --> 00:57:08,800
Speaker 1: past year to his back that started even before spring

1199
00:57:08,800 --> 00:57:11,319
Speaker 1: training and went all the way through the year that

1200
00:57:11,520 --> 00:57:15,160
Speaker 1: prevented him from from pitching in a way that we'll

1201
00:57:15,320 --> 00:57:17,240
Speaker 1: we'll find out in a couple days for sure what

1202
00:57:17,280 --> 00:57:20,720
Speaker 1: they're gonna do with him, But that's another way to

1203
00:57:20,480 --> 00:57:23,040
Speaker 1: the forty man roster is filled right now, and we

1204
00:57:23,040 --> 00:57:25,840
Speaker 1: were just talking a moment ago about free agent possibilities

1205
00:57:25,880 --> 00:57:28,560
Speaker 1: if they do sign any big league free agents, they

1206
00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:31,880
Speaker 1: got to squeeze somebody else off, as forty Man and Nardi.

1207
00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:36,080
Speaker 1: If they they feel that that back injury is career altering,

1208
00:57:36,160 --> 00:57:38,960
Speaker 1: then they could squeeze him off. And I know that that, Isaac,

1209
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,960
Speaker 1: You've kind of contemplated what's gonna happen with Braxton Garrett

1210
00:57:42,960 --> 00:57:45,840
Speaker 1: where that's another one that's relatively cheap. It's he's gonna

1211
00:57:45,840 --> 00:57:47,480
Speaker 1: earn the same amount of money he did this past year,

1212
00:57:47,520 --> 00:57:50,040
Speaker 1: just one and a half million. But it's his second

1213
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:55,200
Speaker 1: career Tommy John surgery, and he missed most of the

1214
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,680
Speaker 1: previous year even before undergoing the surgery. So the question is,

1215
00:58:00,040 --> 00:58:01,840
Speaker 1: on a team that has a lot of rotation depth,

1216
00:58:02,280 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 1: are they we don't know for sure whether or not

1217
00:58:05,320 --> 00:58:07,200
Speaker 1: they're going to hold on to him. Just give them

1218
00:58:07,240 --> 00:58:09,200
Speaker 1: the questions about how much of a workload he can

1219
00:58:09,200 --> 00:58:10,040
Speaker 1: actually handle.

1220
00:58:09,840 --> 00:58:12,720
Speaker 4: In twenty twenty six Yeah, you said it perfectly.

1221
00:58:12,760 --> 00:58:15,280
Speaker 2: That's the name that I would circle here as someone

1222
00:58:15,320 --> 00:58:18,280
Speaker 2: to not be totally surprised for taking off guard if

1223
00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:19,640
Speaker 2: he is in fact non tendered.

1224
00:58:19,680 --> 00:58:22,200
Speaker 4: He's been with the organization since twenty sixteen as.

1225
00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:24,840
Speaker 2: A former first round draft pick, one of the nicest

1226
00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,680
Speaker 2: guys in Marylin's history, honestly, one of the great guys

1227
00:58:27,680 --> 00:58:30,960
Speaker 2: from Alabama, and unfortunately, like Eli mentioned, it was he

1228
00:58:30,960 --> 00:58:34,800
Speaker 2: did undergo his second Timmy John surgery and I've just

1229
00:58:35,000 --> 00:58:38,240
Speaker 2: not heard his name be mentioned when in future plans

1230
00:58:38,280 --> 00:58:40,480
Speaker 2: at all. It's been a really I don't want to

1231
00:58:40,480 --> 00:58:44,160
Speaker 2: see sketchy, but it's just been an unclear rehab progression

1232
00:58:44,160 --> 00:58:46,600
Speaker 2: for him. I've not heard his name at all over

1233
00:58:46,600 --> 00:58:48,600
Speaker 2: the last two months of the regular season and going

1234
00:58:48,640 --> 00:58:52,200
Speaker 2: into today, I just failed to hear much positive about him,

1235
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:55,480
Speaker 2: if anything at all, which is a shame because he

1236
00:58:55,560 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 2: had that really nice year in twenty twenty three and

1237
00:58:57,480 --> 00:58:59,280
Speaker 2: he pitched in the he started a playoff game for

1238
00:58:59,320 --> 00:59:03,360
Speaker 2: the Miami Marlin in twenty three, So it'd be tough.

1239
00:59:03,360 --> 00:59:05,080
Speaker 2: One of the longer tendre you guys in the organization.

1240
00:59:05,680 --> 00:59:09,080
Speaker 2: Just given that he's what four regimes back, I just

1241
00:59:09,120 --> 00:59:10,920
Speaker 2: wouldn't be surprised. And like he like mentioned, even if

1242
00:59:10,920 --> 00:59:13,080
Speaker 2: he does pitch major league baseball in twenty twenty six,

1243
00:59:13,240 --> 00:59:14,800
Speaker 2: what can they realistically expect?

1244
00:59:14,840 --> 00:59:16,360
Speaker 4: How many inning do they expect him to throw in

1245
00:59:16,360 --> 00:59:16,920
Speaker 4: the big leagues?

1246
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:20,160
Speaker 2: Just seems like a perfect opportunity for the Marlins to

1247
00:59:20,400 --> 00:59:23,040
Speaker 2: maybe shave a little bit of one point five three

1248
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,400
Speaker 2: million dollars off the books, because I don't think they're

1249
00:59:26,400 --> 00:59:28,840
Speaker 2: expecting much from him, so I guess I just wouldn't

1250
00:59:28,840 --> 00:59:31,320
Speaker 2: be surprised if if Practice is non tender.

1251
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:34,280
Speaker 5: The Nardi one is so weird because I just looked

1252
00:59:34,280 --> 00:59:36,960
Speaker 5: it up. He has three minor league options and it's

1253
00:59:37,000 --> 00:59:40,959
Speaker 5: eight hundred K tender. It like, let's see what happens. Right,

1254
00:59:41,160 --> 00:59:43,520
Speaker 5: If he comes back and he looks good, throw him

1255
00:59:43,560 --> 00:59:46,320
Speaker 5: on the opening their rostrips another left ear lead, worst

1256
00:59:46,320 --> 00:59:48,240
Speaker 5: comes to worse, you option him the triple A, let

1257
00:59:48,320 --> 00:59:50,120
Speaker 5: him work through whatever he needs to work through, and

1258
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,920
Speaker 5: whenever he's ready or he's doing well, you.

1259
00:59:52,920 --> 00:59:53,440
Speaker 4: Call him up.

1260
00:59:53,560 --> 00:59:56,280
Speaker 5: But I also see the other side of it. Obviously,

1261
00:59:56,480 --> 00:59:58,320
Speaker 5: you know went through a back injury, and similar to

1262
00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,600
Speaker 5: what Isaac was saying, we not hear anything about Andrew

1263
01:00:01,720 --> 01:00:04,640
Speaker 5: ARTI like little to nothing. He was there, but he

1264
01:00:04,720 --> 01:00:07,560
Speaker 5: really wasn't until the last two weeks of the season.

1265
01:00:07,560 --> 01:00:09,160
Speaker 5: Maybe I don't even think he was in the building

1266
01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:12,800
Speaker 5: at all, But it was really vague injury updates on Nardi.

1267
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:17,320
Speaker 5: There's never anything really concrete of progression. And all of

1268
01:00:17,360 --> 01:00:21,960
Speaker 5: it for a back injury. So it really you know,

1269
01:00:22,040 --> 01:00:25,960
Speaker 5: the question, you know, like it's just like you could,

1270
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:27,880
Speaker 5: you could tender him the contract is it's eight hundred

1271
01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:29,800
Speaker 5: K and he's probably gonna be one of the least

1272
01:00:29,840 --> 01:00:32,200
Speaker 5: paid players on the team, at least on the forty

1273
01:00:32,240 --> 01:00:35,400
Speaker 5: man So do it right. But at the same time,

1274
01:00:35,760 --> 01:00:38,760
Speaker 5: I wouldn't be shocked if they do non tender him,

1275
01:00:39,000 --> 01:00:41,200
Speaker 5: And that is the expectation that they're going to non

1276
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,280
Speaker 5: tender him like they did with Tonoko. They did it

1277
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:47,840
Speaker 5: with Nardi, but they kept Narty on for a bit longer.

1278
01:00:47,880 --> 01:00:50,480
Speaker 5: So it does, you know, bring up the question that

1279
01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:52,080
Speaker 5: they're actually just going to turn in the contract and

1280
01:00:52,080 --> 01:00:54,040
Speaker 5: see what they've got, because it's another left the option

1281
01:00:54,080 --> 01:00:57,120
Speaker 5: who had really nice twenty twenty three. It's starting to

1282
01:00:57,120 --> 01:01:00,440
Speaker 5: look like an anomaly unfortunately, but who knows, maybe he

1283
01:01:00,480 --> 01:01:03,120
Speaker 5: bounces back and has a solid twenty five and it's

1284
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:06,120
Speaker 5: only it's all all that for a hundred k. It's

1285
01:01:06,160 --> 01:01:08,360
Speaker 5: not even a million dollars. But again, they traded Jake

1286
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:12,200
Speaker 5: Berger wasn't even making a million dollars, but different situation obviously.

1287
01:01:13,840 --> 01:01:16,880
Speaker 1: Yeah, so I have a very minor update on Nardi

1288
01:01:17,440 --> 01:01:22,320
Speaker 1: which is that he was participating in this event that

1289
01:01:22,440 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 1: Jake Berger put on for his Jake Berger's Foundation that

1290
01:01:27,160 --> 01:01:29,680
Speaker 1: it required like I don't know if they actually played

1291
01:01:30,520 --> 01:01:33,240
Speaker 1: a game any sort of like scrimmage thing, but he

1292
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:35,720
Speaker 1: assembled a bunch of professional players for what they called

1293
01:01:35,800 --> 01:01:39,200
Speaker 1: the Lucky Classic, and Nardi was there, and he was

1294
01:01:39,240 --> 01:01:40,960
Speaker 1: in a uniform. I don't know.

1295
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:44,200
Speaker 5: Did you see those uniforms? He lied, They don't. They

1296
01:01:44,200 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 5: weren't even baseball yet.

1297
01:01:45,440 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 2: It was more of a home runner Harper, Brice Harper

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Speaker 2: played in a couple of other prominent.

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Speaker 5: Na I'm pretty sure Nathany Lowe was there too, and.

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Speaker 1: A great event for a great cause. Our guy Berger,

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Speaker 1: best of luck to him. So Nardi was there, I

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Speaker 1: just yeah, he's in good spirits.

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Speaker 5: But so it's Broxton Garrett. He just got married. That's update.

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Speaker 1: I don't I don't think he was throwing ninety five

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Speaker 1: miles per hour at this event, even though it was

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Speaker 1: out of baseball field and even though he was in

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Speaker 1: a jersey. So it's yeah, we'll find out. So that's

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Speaker 1: just a couple of days away between these moves, and

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Speaker 1: more so, we're keeping an eye on across the league

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Speaker 1: all these teams have higher profile non tender candidates that

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Speaker 1: will add even more to the free agency pool, depending

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Speaker 1: on how much they're projected together and whether those teams

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Speaker 1: are going to pay them. So we had an appetizer

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Speaker 1: yesterday with the guys getting dfade, but they're gonna be

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Speaker 1: bigger names. They are going to hit the free agent

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Speaker 1: market by Friday across the league for the Marlins to consider.

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Speaker 1: I'm going to do a quick prediction time on our

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Speaker 1: way out.

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Speaker 5: Oh yes, I got a little idea.

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Speaker 1: This is production time.

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Speaker 8: I think we're gonna win a lot of games, a

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Speaker 8: lot more games than you think we're gonna win this year.

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Speaker 1: Hey, slow down, slow down. You don't even know who's

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Speaker 1: on the team yet. Bruce blacked Josh thro the show

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Speaker 1: off talking about the guys that were protected from the

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Speaker 1: Rule five and selected. It's on the Marlins forty man roster.

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Speaker 1: It was Joe Mack, Josh White, William Kempner. So I

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Speaker 1: felt for prediction time, we can make way too early predictions.

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Speaker 1: Which of them is going to make their major league debut. First,

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Speaker 1: they're all on the forty man They're all going to

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Speaker 1: be in major league spring training. None of them have

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Speaker 1: any big league experience yet, But which one of them

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Speaker 1: do we think is gonna be the first one that

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Speaker 1: gets their shot on, whether presumably with the Marlins, but

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Speaker 1: just making their major league debut first. So that's that's

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Speaker 1: what I want to do for prediction time this time around,

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Speaker 1: just picking from one of those three, which one of

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Speaker 1: them do you think gets up first? And they're still

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Speaker 1: a while away from the call contest. That'll get us

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Speaker 1: even more invested in their particular debuts depending on who

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Speaker 1: we go with there. But yeah, we'll start this off.

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Speaker 1: I'll get the music going. Kevin uh is usual leadoff guy,

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Speaker 1: so that will continue right here.

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Speaker 5: I'm gonna uh roster bearing injuries or really bad performances,

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Speaker 5: and he really dominated last year, nothing else to prove

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Speaker 5: he will make the mark. He'll be the first one

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Speaker 5: called up or quote unquote make his debut.

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Speaker 1: Okay, mister Daniel, your selection out of this three, yoh.

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Speaker 8: I think the easy money would be Josh White, when

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Speaker 8: I'm not gonna go for the easy money. I'm gonna

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Speaker 8: go with Joe magh If you put him on the

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Speaker 8: main roster, instantly becomes the best catcher, not just offensively

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Speaker 8: but maybe a defensively as well, But I think Joe

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Speaker 8: Mack will be the first debut. I don't hope to

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Speaker 8: do the name.

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Speaker 1: Okay, Isaaca zoots your prediction, sir, Joe.

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Speaker 2: Mag is gonna hit four gravely league home runs, forcing

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Speaker 2: himself to be a call out candidate in late April.

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Speaker 1: Joe Mack first, you see how this works, Alex. Now

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Speaker 1: I'll give us your prediction.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, I think that Josh White feels like the obvious choice.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna want to do service time manipulation with Joe Mack,

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Speaker 6: and I think William Kempner just needs to prove himself

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Speaker 6: more in Triple A, but Josh White has nothing left

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Speaker 6: to prove.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with Joe Mack. I'll go with mac here.

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Speaker 1: I'm a component of starting the year on this with

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Speaker 1: Marlins roster. I got a feeling the Marlins won't quite

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Speaker 1: do that, But at the same time, there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of volatility when it comes to rookie pitchers and win

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Speaker 1: exactly you're gonna break through. So I'm very optimistic about

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Speaker 1: all three of these guys moving forward and how they're

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Speaker 1: gonna impact the team in a positive way as soon

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Speaker 1: as they do get called up. But I think if Mac,

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Speaker 1: if he doesn't make the opening day roster, I think

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Speaker 1: he's gonna be knocking on the door as soon as

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Speaker 1: that invisible deadline passes during the second week of April.

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Speaker 1: He's gonna be obsumed and get a shot. Right there,

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Speaker 1: I'll go with Joe Mac taking over the Marlins catcher

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Speaker 1: position hopefully for many years ago. The return of Fish

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Speaker 1: on First Live from Eli, Kevin, Daniel, Isaac and Alex

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Speaker 1: aka Forever Marlins. Thanks everybody for tuning in and checking

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Speaker 1: PJ LMF MJS as well. Oh I missed this comment

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Speaker 1: reminding us, hey, sus Sanchez with the Astros. He had

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Speaker 1: a pretty slow finish of the year and he's due.

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Speaker 1: He had another raise. Maybe Sanchi is back on the

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Speaker 1: market as well. So that's just one example of guys

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Speaker 1: that we're gonna be falling towards the end of this week,

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Speaker 1: we're doing a stream, and we've made a habit at

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Speaker 1: just two and a half weeks away and we're gonna

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