WEBVTT - Not So Fast Episode 19

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Not So Fast with Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst,

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<v Speaker 1>where two longtime friends challenge each other on the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>sports stories of the day.

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<v Speaker 2>Here's Andrew Perloff and Paul Pabst. Not so fast, my friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Welcome to Not So Fast. I'm Andrew Perloff.

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<v Speaker 3>He's Paul Pabst. You might sense some tension on the

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<v Speaker 3>set today. There is a big matchup tonight, of course,

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<v Speaker 3>Eagles at Bears. I'm a lifelong Philadelphia Eagles fan. Paul

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<v Speaker 3>is a lifelong Bears fan. So we're usually good friends.

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<v Speaker 2>Not today, my friend.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, we're pulling the Band-Aid on this one.

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<v Speaker 5>We got a lot of Week 3 to get to,

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<v Speaker 5>a lot of college football to get to. But it's

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<v Speaker 5>a saucy matchup tonight because we're going to break it down.

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<v Speaker 5>Third-string quarterback versus first-string quarterback who the home fans don't

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<v Speaker 5>always back. That's a recipe for a mess.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>This is going to be a weird, weird game because, obviously,

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<v Speaker 3>Case Keenum is likely to start. Case Keenum is actually

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<v Speaker 3>a very good friend of mine. I have very conflicted feelings. And,

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<v Speaker 3>of course, we have a lot going on in baseball

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<v Speaker 3>with the Phillies and the Cubs and the White Sox.

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<v Speaker 3>There's so much to go to that let's not make

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<v Speaker 3>this personal, though. Let's talk about the actual games, not ourselves.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, keep it friendly, as we always do here.

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's start out with the Ravens-Cowboys. I've got to be honest, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>I had no idea who was going to win this

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<v Speaker 3>game until it was actually over. insane ending. Ravens win 34-31.

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<v Speaker 3>Seven seconds left, drive down, kick the game-winning field goal.

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<v Speaker 2>What stood out to you?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, this is a great play. I mean, seven seconds left.

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<v Speaker 5>You have a timeout left, and J.J. Watt's calling the game.

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<v Speaker 5>He's like, You either have to throw to the sidelines,

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<v Speaker 5>but because you have a timeout left, the middle of

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<v Speaker 5>the field's in play. And it's like the Cowboys' defense

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<v Speaker 5>didn't realize the middle of the field was in play

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<v Speaker 5>and that you don't need that many yards to set

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<v Speaker 5>up this kind of kick.

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<v Speaker 2>I think the Cowboys actually blew this game in their

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<v Speaker 2>last possession.

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<v Speaker 4>Totally.

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<v Speaker 2>They had the ball. They were first and two after

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<v Speaker 2>a really bad defensive pass interference call.

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<v Speaker 3>They're first and goal, and they get a false start.

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<v Speaker 3>This is so Cowboys. They are right at the finish line,

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<v Speaker 3>and they find a way to blow it.

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<v Speaker 2>And to me.

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, Paul, this has been going on the

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<v Speaker 3>whole Jerry Jones era. It's not just this game. They

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<v Speaker 3>find ways to lose.

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<v Speaker 5>There was this picture on Twitter where someone says, the

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<v Speaker 5>Cowboys found a way to lose this game, and it's

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<v Speaker 5>first and goal, 21 seconds to go. You really put

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<v Speaker 5>losing in play, and that's one of those games. I

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<v Speaker 5>can remember the Cowboys last year. They had a game

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<v Speaker 5>maybe a year before where they tied the Packers. And

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<v Speaker 5>right now, that loss doesn't look so bad. Oh, you

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<v Speaker 5>lost to the Ravens.

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<v Speaker 4>Not so bad. But if you miss the playoffs by

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<v Speaker 4>half a game, you're going to remember this one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean, the Ravens are a tough opponent. It

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<v Speaker 2>was a wild game in Brazil. It looked really fun. J.J.

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<v Speaker 3>Watt was amazing. It was a great game. But, you know,

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<v Speaker 3>it's an inter-conference game, Paul. So I don't know if

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<v Speaker 3>it really makes a difference in the playoff race. This

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<v Speaker 3>is a good team to lose to.

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<v Speaker 2>But the fact that they were so close.

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<v Speaker 5>I think it's bad for momentum because they did a

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<v Speaker 5>pretty good job on Derrick Henry.

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<v Speaker 4>They held him to three yards a carry. and 25

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<v Speaker 4>of those are on one carry. And so the defense

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<v Speaker 4>stepped up.

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<v Speaker 5>Last year, remember Jerry Jones talked about how we need

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<v Speaker 5>to stop the run.

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<v Speaker 4>They did. Not stopped, but they controlled Derrick Henry. They

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<v Speaker 4>didn't control Lamar.

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<v Speaker 5>But it felt like they were improving, and this would

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<v Speaker 5>have been one of those wins where it was defense first.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you're right, because the Giants ran all over them

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<v Speaker 3>in week one. I don't think it's a huge deal.

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<v Speaker 3>You did see Dak Prescott has elevated his game. I'm

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<v Speaker 3>going to say top five quarterback in the NFL right now.

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<v Speaker 3>He makes every throw.

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<v Speaker 2>He looks unbelievable. And with that wide receiver duo, and

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<v Speaker 2>they ran the ball on Sunday, I think they're going

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<v Speaker 2>to be fine. But to me, when they get to

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<v Speaker 2>the playoffs, they're going to find a way to lose

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<v Speaker 2>it again.

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<v Speaker 5>See, I think this is the kind of game where

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<v Speaker 5>you don't make the playoffs, where the rest of the

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<v Speaker 5>NFC chews each other up. The NFC West, I should say,

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<v Speaker 5>the NFC East, And this is one of those games

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<v Speaker 5>that you remember six weeks from now going, that's the

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<v Speaker 5>one we had.

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<v Speaker 4>We were going to steal a win that should have

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<v Speaker 4>been a loss.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. What about the turf coming in? Were you expecting

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<v Speaker 2>something major to happen?

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<v Speaker 5>So I'm watching beforehand. Again, they're showing pictures of the turf.

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<v Speaker 5>And they had this big machine that was like stitching

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<v Speaker 5>the turf together and putting turf.

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<v Speaker 4>It looked like Brian Urlacher. Remember he went from bald

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<v Speaker 4>to having hair?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 5>The field went from ball to having grass on it,

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<v Speaker 5>and it wasn't that big of a story.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, there were a couple plays. Zay Flowers, the excellent

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<v Speaker 3>Ravens receiver, made a couple cuts. I'm like, ooh, that's

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<v Speaker 3>going to be bad. Lamar made some cuts, but they

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<v Speaker 3>all came out okay. That, to me, there was a

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<v Speaker 3>couple injuries. That, to me, was the game of the

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<v Speaker 3>year so far.

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<v Speaker 5>What was really funny is people were saying, this is

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<v Speaker 5>going to be a disaster, and this is really going

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<v Speaker 5>to pump the brakes on international games.

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<v Speaker 4>Not so fast, my friend.

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<v Speaker 5>They're going international more and more, and they'll do whatever

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<v Speaker 5>they can to partially fix that field just for the game.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely.

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<v Speaker 3>I think the rating is going to be, at peak,

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<v Speaker 3>$ 40 million or something. It's going to be like an

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<v Speaker 3>NFC title game. Any Cowboys 4 o'clock game rates high,

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<v Speaker 3>people probably tuned in because it was so close. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 3>if you don't like international play, I think this is

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<v Speaker 3>their excuse to add double the amount.

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<v Speaker 2>They're going over there.

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<v Speaker 4>Where are we going next? Last night's game?

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<v Speaker 3>By the way, then last night's game is almost a repeat.

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<v Speaker 3>The Broncos beat the Rams 30-26.

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<v Speaker 2>Another game, you had no idea who was going to

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<v Speaker 2>win this game until the very, very end.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, this is one of those games, if you watch

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<v Speaker 5>the last few plays, it felt like the Rams defensive

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<v Speaker 5>back did not commit P.I. and had a great interception,

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<v Speaker 5>walk off, close it out. You have a little scare

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<v Speaker 5>in the second half from Bo Nix, but that was

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<v Speaker 5>one of those games where you should have pulled this off.

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<v Speaker 5>I mean, if you watch this play, this looks like

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<v Speaker 5>normal battling, a little floater. And that is an awesome interception.

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<v Speaker 5>That's one of those where the receiver is selling it

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<v Speaker 5>and the ref falls for it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know everybody's saying this. I mean, he clearly

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<v Speaker 3>grabbed him and held him. I would have called it

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<v Speaker 3>a holding.

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<v Speaker 5>The other ref's in a way better position to make

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<v Speaker 5>the call.

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<v Speaker 3>Are you sure that he did grab his waist and

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<v Speaker 3>turn him a little bit before the ball was in

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<v Speaker 3>the air?

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<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't say it was manhandled. I think it was

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<v Speaker 4>lightly manhandled.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 3>Terry McCauley went off on that call, the NBC officiating expert.

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<v Speaker 3>Either way, how important is this loss for the Rams?

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they were supposed to be this dream team.

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<v Speaker 3>Now they're 1-2. Has it turned into a nightmare team, Paul?

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<v Speaker 2>No, look at you.

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<v Speaker 5>Scare headlines for a lot of classic. I would say

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<v Speaker 5>this is one of those. Again, when the Rams are

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<v Speaker 5>on the road in the playoffs and not playing at home,

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<v Speaker 5>it's games like this because of that. We're going to

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<v Speaker 5>talk later about the 49ers. And if you look at

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<v Speaker 5>what happened to Seattle, everyone's kind of close enough where

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<v Speaker 5>it's not that big of a deal. You get Miles

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<v Speaker 5>Garrett back. You get Puka back full speed in October.

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<v Speaker 5>This could be a memory.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a great point.

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<v Speaker 3>But they do have the Eagles coming up and they

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<v Speaker 3>have the Bills after that. There's a chance that it

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<v Speaker 3>gets late early for the L.A.

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<v Speaker 2>Rams.

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<v Speaker 3>It's no guarantee because last night they looked good. I

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<v Speaker 3>thought they thought they had the game won at halftime

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<v Speaker 3>and that sort of gave up on the game. So

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<v Speaker 3>they can't play like that. They did in the second half,

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<v Speaker 3>lost some urgency.

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<v Speaker 5>And if you look at this Rams schedule here, that

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<v Speaker 5>game against the Cardinals and that game against the Raiders,

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<v Speaker 5>we penciled it as easy W's a month ago.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, the Cardinals, I think. And now the

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<v Speaker 3>Chargers game is the W. I mean, Cardinals, Chargers, Commanders, Cardinals.

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<v Speaker 3>When I look at that, but then you got the

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<v Speaker 3>Chiefs later in the season. The Niners look outstanding. The

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<v Speaker 3>Rams can't mess around. They messed around on Sunday night.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what really bothered me. If they had just sort

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<v Speaker 3>of kept the foot on the gas, they easily should

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<v Speaker 3>have beat Denver.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know how Bo Nix does this, by the way.

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<v Speaker 3>If we had a text chain earlier that night complaining

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<v Speaker 3>about the Broncos not putting up a fight and how

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<v Speaker 3>bad Bo Nix looked, and then he always does this.

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<v Speaker 5>See, it does remind me of Caleb Williams last year,

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<v Speaker 5>where all these games, they're losing the first half, they're

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<v Speaker 5>losing the second half. Bo Nix is a great fourth-quarter quarterback.

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<v Speaker 5>He's not a great one, two, and third-quarter quarterback. And

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<v Speaker 5>this is a little bit like Caleb.

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<v Speaker 4>Williams last year.

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<v Speaker 5>Bo Nix is clutch but not great, and sometimes that's enough.

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<v Speaker 5>I'd rather have a guy who's clutch than a guy

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<v Speaker 5>who can't get it done.

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<v Speaker 4>By the way, that's not a touchdown.

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<v Speaker 3>Wasn't this that 8-9 fourth quarter games went to Bo

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<v Speaker 3>Nix last year? It is a mysterious team to me,

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<v Speaker 3>and they had some issues on defense.

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<v Speaker 2>Early on, it looked like the Broncos were non-threatening.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, my Super Bowl matchup, Paul, is Denver against L.A.,

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<v Speaker 3>and I wanted a mulligan big time after week one.

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<v Speaker 2>Now I think I'm back in. I'm back in on

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<v Speaker 2>Broncos versus the Rams.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm with you because I think the Broncos up their talent.

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<v Speaker 5>Once Jalen Waddell gets going and gets enough targets like

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<v Speaker 5>he didn't get week one, I think they're going to

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<v Speaker 5>be fine.

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<v Speaker 4>This is one of those things.

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<v Speaker 5>If your problem is your quarterback is great at fourth

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<v Speaker 5>quarter comebacks, that's not a problem.

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<v Speaker 2>If you gave me a mulligan, which team do you

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<v Speaker 2>think I should pull out of that?

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<v Speaker 3>If I get one different team, the Rams 1 and 2,

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<v Speaker 3>I actually feel okay.

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<v Speaker 2>With them as my Super Bowl team.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think you should because talent usually plays out.

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<v Speaker 5>I will say that the Niners are throwing a wrench.

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<v Speaker 4>Into all of this.

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<v Speaker 3>They're a problem. They're a major problem in my Super

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<v Speaker 3>Bowl pick. I actually thought if I could create a

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<v Speaker 3>time machine, I might go back and pick the Niners.

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<v Speaker 5>If you could, let me know because I want to

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<v Speaker 5>go back and go to a couple of Bears games.

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<v Speaker 5>All right, let's get to college football. This was a

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<v Speaker 5>really huge weekend on paper, college football, and it really

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<v Speaker 5>turned out to be a great weekend all over the

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<v Speaker 5>place in college football. Florida rolls the Ole Miss, Iowa

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<v Speaker 5>over Michigan, Texas over Tennessee, but the USC-Oregon game was

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<v Speaker 5>the fallout game of the weekend. Oregon's playing well. USC

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<v Speaker 5>was 4-0, but a very shaky 4-0. Early in the game,

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<v Speaker 5>Dante Moore of Oregon gets knocked out. He got actually

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<v Speaker 5>knocked out of the game. Dylan Riella comes in. You

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<v Speaker 5>remember him from his college football tour he's been making

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<v Speaker 5>the past few years, and they actually played fantastic. Oregon

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<v Speaker 5>beat USC with a backup quarterback, and Raiola did everything.

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<v Speaker 5>If you watch this play here, this is the Dante

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<v Speaker 5>Moore slide and hit. This is as bad as it gets. Now,

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<v Speaker 5>we could talk more about this later, but this is,

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<v Speaker 5>if you want to say, watching in slow motion, that

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<v Speaker 5>he slid a little late, maybe, but that doesn't excuse

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<v Speaker 5>the other half of it.

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<v Speaker 4>It doesn't.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, listen, there was a lot of targeting

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<v Speaker 3>this weekend. There were a lot of Helmuth-Delma hits. Leading

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<v Speaker 3>with the elbow like that is totally unacceptable. I think personally,

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<v Speaker 3>His post-injury reaction is what doomed the USC player.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, Desmond Stevens, the USC linebacker.

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<v Speaker 3>He was caught on camera celebrating on the sideline. You

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<v Speaker 3>don't celebrate when somebody's in serious trouble.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, even if the hits happen, clearly he didn't hold up.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, it's football. It's absolutely vicious hits like that happen

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<v Speaker 2>all the time. Right.

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<v Speaker 5>The sideline guys, the position coaches on USC have to

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<v Speaker 5>save him from his health. They've got to sit him

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<v Speaker 5>down and say, hey, calm down, stop high-fiving.

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<v Speaker 4>You're making this worse. And USC, as everyone knows, had

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<v Speaker 4>to suspend him the day before.

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<v Speaker 5>But bigger picture is fallout of the weekend, Lincoln Riley

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<v Speaker 5>and USC, if there was a honeymoon, it's well over.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's funny to me.

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<v Speaker 3>Lincoln Riley seemingly left Oklahoma because he didn't want to

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<v Speaker 3>follow Oklahoma to the SEC.

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<v Speaker 2>And then he goes to USC. And then what's USC do?

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<v Speaker 3>Go to the Big Ten, which is particularly not suited

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<v Speaker 3>for Lincoln Riley. He needs to be in the Big

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<v Speaker 3>12 ball where there's not such a thing as two

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<v Speaker 3>sides of the ball.

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<v Speaker 2>There is just no toughness to a Lincoln Riley USC team.

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<v Speaker 4>And they've got talent. They've got a lot of young talent.

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<v Speaker 5>They do have a quarterback, but it just doesn't feel

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<v Speaker 5>like they're threatening week to week. USC's next few games, Washington,

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<v Speaker 5>Penn State, Wisconsin, Ohio State, Indiana, then UCLA to finish

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<v Speaker 5>the season. I mean, they should be favored in most

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<v Speaker 5>of them. I'm not sure today. I don't think today

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<v Speaker 5>they're going to be favored in all of those. Is

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<v Speaker 5>that a team, USC, that fires their coach not midseason

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<v Speaker 5>but end of season?

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<v Speaker 2>So I saw different numbers on the buyout, between 70

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<v Speaker 2>and 80 million.

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<v Speaker 4>For Lincoln Riley.

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<v Speaker 3>For Lincoln Riley. So I don't think they want to

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<v Speaker 3>pay that money for the buyout. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of people are going to be turned off by that money.

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<v Speaker 3>But it's even a bigger picture. Lincoln Riley brought in

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<v Speaker 3>a lot of young studs, especially their defensive end, Luke Waffle.

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<v Speaker 2>I think USC is not dumb. If you fire Lincoln Riley,

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<v Speaker 2>they're gone.

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<v Speaker 5>So your concern is if you let the players go

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<v Speaker 5>by getting rid of your coach.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think generally, because it's USC and the way that

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<v Speaker 3>they work, I do not think Lincoln Riley is going

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<v Speaker 3>to get fired.

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<v Speaker 2>What's your take? Do you think he's gone?

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<v Speaker 5>I think you're in a position where it's going to

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<v Speaker 5>be like where the wag the dog. The boosters are

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<v Speaker 5>going to say, we want this guy gone. And they'll

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<v Speaker 5>say USC is going to say, you've got to pay

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<v Speaker 5>for it. Yeah, we'll fire whoever you want, but you

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<v Speaker 5>guys got to pick up the buyout like they do

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<v Speaker 5>at Texas A &amp; M, like they do at Clemson,

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<v Speaker 5>like they do at Florida State.

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<v Speaker 3>I see what you're saying, but this is overall just

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<v Speaker 3>a very bad situation. By the way, I got something

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<v Speaker 3>in my ear, but I got a major NFL trade.

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<v Speaker 2>Really? Major. Do you want it now or do you

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<v Speaker 2>want it after the break? I got to give it

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<v Speaker 2>to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Let's do it now.

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<v Speaker 2>I got to give it to you.

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<v Speaker 4>A major NFL. Can you give me a hint?

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<v Speaker 2>Quarterback. You're going to guess it. I'll let you guess.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a quarterback trade.

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<v Speaker 5>Mac Jones has been traded to the New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Right team, wrong player. J.J. McCarthy is reunited with a Harbaugh. J.J.

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<v Speaker 3>McCarthy goes from Minnesota to the New York Giants. Of course,

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<v Speaker 3>played for Jim Harbaugh at Michigan. Now he goes with

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<v Speaker 3>John Harbaugh. Not a shock. Jameis Winston was awesome in

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<v Speaker 3>the interview, but did not play well.

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<v Speaker 5>I'm going to need a 20 to react to this

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<v Speaker 5>in the moment. I think this is great for the Vikings.

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<v Speaker 5>This is a problem that's out of the building. They

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<v Speaker 5>don't have to coach him. They don't have to deal

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<v Speaker 5>with him.

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<v Speaker 2>It's over.

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<v Speaker 5>They're going to take a lot of heat for the

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<v Speaker 5>direction of their franchise, but the problem is no longer

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<v Speaker 5>in the building. I think this is terrible for the

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<v Speaker 5>New York Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>Why?

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<v Speaker 4>Because you're not competing for anything this year.

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<v Speaker 2>Nope.

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<v Speaker 5>This guy doesn't help you compete this year, and now

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<v Speaker 5>you've inserted a quarterback controversy into next year's Giants team.

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<v Speaker 2>You're actually giving a lot of credit to J.J. McCarthy.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you sure he's good enough to create a quarterback

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<v Speaker 2>controversy or win any games this year?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, why get rid of a fifth-round pick for someone

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<v Speaker 5>who you don't believe can push Jackson Dart? Now, you

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<v Speaker 5>have Jackson Dart hurt. And he has to come back

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<v Speaker 5>and deal with this, another young gunslinger.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've got to be honest.

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<v Speaker 3>If they had done Jameis for the next 14 weeks,

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<v Speaker 3>that would be a major, major problem.

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<v Speaker 2>They could start losing bad.

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<v Speaker 4>But you like the lose-bad Giants.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't think J.J. McCarthy is going to win you

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<v Speaker 3>that many games. He's a developmental quarterback. So why not

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<v Speaker 3>bring another developmental arm into the building?

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, you know what? It's a lottery ticket. What if

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<v Speaker 2>he's good?

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<v Speaker 4>Breaking news on Snapchat.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, oh, I love breaking news. I love to be

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<v Speaker 2>the one. You were close. By the way, Mac Jones,

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<v Speaker 2>if they had gotten Mac Jones, that would be bad.

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<v Speaker 3>But I was thinking that touchdown, I'm sorry, the interception

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<v Speaker 3>Cam Ward threw at the end of the Titans-Giants game,

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<v Speaker 3>that was four draft slots in one play. Basically, Jeremiah

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<v Speaker 3>Smith just got sent to Tennessee and not the New

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<v Speaker 3>York Giants.

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<v Speaker 2>We are cooking. All right, coming up next, we got

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<v Speaker 2>our warm takes.

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<v Speaker 3>I have a great Marvel movie analogy that Paul will

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<v Speaker 3>not understand, but you might.

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<v Speaker 5>That's Not So Fast, Pabst and Perloff. All right, Iowa City,

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<v Speaker 5>this is for you. Paps and Perloff, not so fast.

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<v Speaker 5>This is the midday pick-me-up.

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<v Speaker 2>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>Final seconds, Iowa versus Michigan. Hank Brown, laser back shoulder.

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<v Speaker 5>Reese Vandersee for the win. You've got to review it, sure,

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<v Speaker 5>but that is a beautiful catch. Reese Vandersee, back shoulder

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<v Speaker 5>play from Hank Brown for the win on the road

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<v Speaker 5>for the Iowa Hawkeyes.

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<v Speaker 2>Gorgeous.

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<v Speaker 3>Gotta be honest, I was shocked Iowa got down the

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<v Speaker 3>field in that scenario.

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<v Speaker 2>What does Iowa have a minute-long drive like that?

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<v Speaker 5>Well, it was fascinating for a couple reasons. Look at

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<v Speaker 5>this picture.

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<v Speaker 4>If I lived anywhere near Iowa City, I would wallpaper

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<v Speaker 4>my dining room in this picture. This is fantastic.

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<v Speaker 5>Really wild game, and Michigan gave it up at the end.

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<v Speaker 5>One thing that happened with Michigan, they made a play

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<v Speaker 5>late on that drive where they pushed someone out of bounds.

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<v Speaker 4>They got a 15-yard penalty. and made it instead of

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<v Speaker 4>a chuck.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I know.

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<v Speaker 4>You saw it.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean, sloppy play, late hits all over college football.

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<v Speaker 2>It's really driving me crazy.

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<v Speaker 4>No excuses.

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<v Speaker 5>It's time for some warm takes, and let's stay with it.

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<v Speaker 5>Warm takes here on Not So Fast. I will go first, Pearl.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we go.

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<v Speaker 5>I said this last Friday on warm takes that there

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<v Speaker 5>was three teams that needed to win this weekend for

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<v Speaker 5>multiple reasons, but to stay in the relevancy picture, maybe

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<v Speaker 5>not playoff picture. Iowa was one of them. Mississippi State

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<v Speaker 5>was one of them, and so was Florida. Iowa took

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<v Speaker 5>care of Michigan, and their reward? They get college game

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<v Speaker 5>day to come to their campus for the first time

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<v Speaker 5>in two decades.

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<v Speaker 4>Now, they're going to face Ohio State next weekend. How's

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<v Speaker 4>that going to work out?

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

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<v Speaker 5>But you still get college game day. Mississippi State, Demario Taylor,

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<v Speaker 5>their quarterback, he is on the Heisman boards. He's on

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<v Speaker 5>draft boards. He's on all the boards. They love Mississippi State.

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<v Speaker 5>Feel good story. Really in the picture for the SEC.

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<v Speaker 4>Great player. Really having a good time.

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<v Speaker 5>And then there's Florida. Florida and their new coach, John Summerall,

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<v Speaker 5>they absolutely took woodshed to Ole Miss. They opened up

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<v Speaker 5>a can. and took care of them. And their running

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<v Speaker 5>back is fantastic. Their quarterback is doing well. But bigger picture,

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<v Speaker 5>Florida feels like respectable, good, threatening, even better than that

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<v Speaker 5>football again. And that's what John Summerall has done in

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<v Speaker 5>less than a month. Now, Florida is the big picture

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<v Speaker 5>team here. Can they go on a run in the SEC?

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<v Speaker 5>It gets tougher, never gets easier. They got all the

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<v Speaker 5>big boys coming up, Georgia, Arkansas, all the heavyweights. But

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<v Speaker 5>Florida football is To do that on national TV against

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<v Speaker 5>Ole Miss, one of the darlings, was fantastic. Really good

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<v Speaker 5>weekend for those three teams.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I want to talk about college football, too,

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<v Speaker 2>in my warm day.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, let's continue this conversation because I actually have a major,

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<v Speaker 3>major issue with college football.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you poo-pooing something?

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<v Speaker 2>I'm poo-pooing the top 25. And I actually tweeted this

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<v Speaker 2>out on Saturday.

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<v Speaker 3>Watching all the games, there was so much bad football,

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<v Speaker 3>so much sloppy football. I don't think they have enough

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<v Speaker 3>teams to fill out the top 25. I don't think

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<v Speaker 3>there's 25 teams there.

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<v Speaker 2>There.

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<v Speaker 3>Start with the number one team, Texas. Why can't the

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<v Speaker 3>Texas Longhorns run the football? It's been two years now

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<v Speaker 3>where anytime they play a tough opponent, it is guaranteed

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<v Speaker 3>to be third and 10 for Arch Manning.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone's ripping Arch Manning.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't even think they're watching the game because a

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<v Speaker 3>big problem with Texas with all these pros on their

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<v Speaker 3>offensive line is they cannot run the ball. And they're

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<v Speaker 3>the number one team. And also, they are sloppy, stupid

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<v Speaker 3>personal fouls. Colin Simmons, maybe the best player in all

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<v Speaker 3>of college football with an idiotic personal foul. You see

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<v Speaker 3>it throughout college football. These guys are getting paid like pros, Paul.

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<v Speaker 3>Why don't they act like it and not have stupid

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<v Speaker 3>celebrations and hits that are nine yards out of bounds?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I think it's a good point.

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<v Speaker 5>The Colin Simmons celebration where he pretended to urinate after

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<v Speaker 5>sacking the quarterback. We should be talking about his five

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<v Speaker 5>sack game.

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<v Speaker 4>He was unbelievable. He looked great.

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<v Speaker 5>But I think it's this NIL era. Remember, the defensive

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<v Speaker 5>lineman might make more than his position coach, and I'm

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<v Speaker 5>not being facetious there.

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<v Speaker 4>He probably makes more.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he doesn't care.

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<v Speaker 4>What are you telling me? The South Carolina player the

0:16:56.890 --> 0:16:57.290
<v Speaker 4>other day, he.

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<v Speaker 2>Was yelling his name. Yeah, he's already in the pros, basically.

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<v Speaker 5>Yes, and so when you see these guys celebrate and

0:17:02.590 --> 0:17:04.350
<v Speaker 5>coaches trying to tell them not to, What type of

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<v Speaker 5>authority do you have when someone's making more than you?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, absolutely. So that gets back to my point about

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<v Speaker 2>the rankings, though.

0:17:09.330 --> 0:17:11.270
<v Speaker 3>The rankings make no sense because they're based on last

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<v Speaker 3>year's records, which are so irrelevant in college football because

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<v Speaker 3>of NIL and the transfer portal.

0:17:16.100 --> 0:17:18.820
<v Speaker 2>For example, you say Mississippi State beat Missouri. How do

0:17:18.840 --> 0:17:22.560
<v Speaker 2>we know Missouri is not a 4-8 team? Michigan. Iowa

0:17:22.580 --> 0:17:25.679
<v Speaker 2>beat Michigan in their game day. Guess what? Michigan stinks.

0:17:25.800 --> 0:17:28.600
<v Speaker 3>They run a high school offense, and they lost to

0:17:28.619 --> 0:17:32.480
<v Speaker 3>Western Michigan. They beat Oklahoma. Oklahoma is a 2-10 team.

0:17:32.859 --> 0:17:36.060
<v Speaker 3>These rankings are insane. They mean nothing. And the thing

0:17:36.080 --> 0:17:38.620
<v Speaker 3>about the committee is, the committee is so dumb. They're

0:17:38.640 --> 0:17:41.010
<v Speaker 3>going to look back and say, oh, wow, Iowa beat

0:17:41.050 --> 0:17:41.930
<v Speaker 3>a ranked Michigan team.

0:17:42.190 --> 0:17:44.030
<v Speaker 2>Guess what? That team doesn't belong to be ranked.

0:17:44.310 --> 0:17:46.909
<v Speaker 3>They are just an arbitrary number that the AP put

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<v Speaker 3>on these teams earlier on in the year.

0:17:48.430 --> 0:17:49.250
<v Speaker 2>And the committee better.

0:17:49.130 --> 0:17:52.030
<v Speaker 3>Be smart this year, Paul, because their rankings are based

0:17:52.070 --> 0:17:53.629
<v Speaker 3>on nothing, just like the helmet.

0:17:54.119 --> 0:17:57.120
<v Speaker 2>That means nothing. And this is going to continue throughout

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<v Speaker 2>the whole year. It's like, oh... Guess what?

0:17:58.920 --> 0:18:00.640
<v Speaker 3>We beat number 18 so-and-so.

0:18:00.940 --> 0:18:01.260
<v Speaker 2>Guess what?

0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:04.610
<v Speaker 3>That 18 so-and-so is probably a 500 team. Ole Miss

0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:06.629
<v Speaker 3>and LSU, the game of the year. How about the

0:18:06.850 --> 0:18:09.010
<v Speaker 3>average two teams of the year? I just think that

0:18:09.190 --> 0:18:10.609
<v Speaker 3>everybody gets all excited for these games.

0:18:10.670 --> 0:18:13.540
<v Speaker 2>But this year, I'm sorry. I'm eliminating it to the

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<v Speaker 2>top 11. Hold on. I got to work.

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<v Speaker 4>Cool off here.

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<v Speaker 2>No more AP Top 25.

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<v Speaker 3>It's just Top 11 and then a bunch of garbage.

0:18:19.260 --> 0:18:21.740
<v Speaker 3>Because people are doing dumb things out there and it's

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<v Speaker 3>driving me crazy.

0:18:22.320 --> 0:18:24.490
<v Speaker 5>You know, I'm with you because you went scorched earth

0:18:24.530 --> 0:18:25.770
<v Speaker 5>here but you have a lot of great points and

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<v Speaker 5>I think one of the points that you're making is

0:18:27.310 --> 0:18:30.010
<v Speaker 5>by setting up these rankings, you set up disappointment when

0:18:30.030 --> 0:18:32.210
<v Speaker 5>there's not real disappointment. They do this a lot of

0:18:32.250 --> 0:18:33.730
<v Speaker 5>it for TV. So you could say we have a

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<v Speaker 5>12 versus 5 matchup. We have a 12 versus 17 matchup.

0:18:37.740 --> 0:18:39.399
<v Speaker 5>You want to sell it for TV, but these teams,

0:18:39.660 --> 0:18:41.840
<v Speaker 5>we know nothing about them. In this NIL era, we

0:18:41.859 --> 0:18:42.360
<v Speaker 5>know even less.

0:18:42.760 --> 0:18:44.820
<v Speaker 3>Combined with the fact that nobody plays anybody because they

0:18:44.859 --> 0:18:46.600
<v Speaker 3>know the committee is going to ding them if they

0:18:46.619 --> 0:18:49.560
<v Speaker 3>lose an out-of-conference game. So everyone says to me, Georgia,

0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:51.600
<v Speaker 3>what about Georgia? All the guys in the back were like, well,

0:18:51.640 --> 0:18:55.900
<v Speaker 3>Georgia's good. They've beaten Tennessee State, Western Kentucky, Arkansas, who's terrible,

0:18:56.140 --> 0:18:59.270
<v Speaker 3>and Oklahoma, who's even worse than Western Kentucky and Tennessee State.

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<v Speaker 2>So don't tell me about Georgia, Paul.

0:19:01.200 --> 0:19:01.800
<v Speaker 4>You're snapping.

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<v Speaker 5>The last time I saw you this mad was we

0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.340
<v Speaker 5>were on a road trip once, and the hotel restaurant

0:19:05.380 --> 0:19:07.410
<v Speaker 5>was closed when we got there, and you missed a meal.

0:19:07.670 --> 0:19:08.200
<v Speaker 4>Don't make pro-op men.

0:19:08.230 --> 0:19:09.710
<v Speaker 2>I lost the bats this weekend, Paul. I'm going to

0:19:09.730 --> 0:19:10.970
<v Speaker 2>be honest. That's part of it. There you go.

0:19:10.970 --> 0:19:12.330
<v Speaker 4>All right, here we go. Let's stay with a little

0:19:12.350 --> 0:19:12.869
<v Speaker 4>college football.

0:19:12.890 --> 0:19:15.149
<v Speaker 5>This is my warm take on the USC linebacker Desmond

0:19:15.170 --> 0:19:17.840
<v Speaker 5>Stevens and the Oregon quarterback Dante Moore. Clearly it was

0:19:17.880 --> 0:19:20.600
<v Speaker 5>a bad hit, terrible hit, cheap shot. Dante Moore, if

0:19:20.640 --> 0:19:24.330
<v Speaker 5>you want to say he slid late, Maybe, but either way,

0:19:24.730 --> 0:19:25.659
<v Speaker 5>we have a deal.

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<v Speaker 4>Here in professional sports and college sports.

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<v Speaker 5>The defensive players and the quarterback over the past 15

0:19:30.940 --> 0:19:34.060
<v Speaker 5>years have created this deal. And the deal is, I slide,

0:19:34.440 --> 0:19:36.020
<v Speaker 5>you try to avoid taking my head off.

0:19:36.080 --> 0:19:36.840
<v Speaker 4>We all win.

0:19:37.080 --> 0:19:39.080
<v Speaker 5>We all go back to the huddle. You don't get

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<v Speaker 5>suspended for a week. You don't lose a game check.

0:19:41.530 --> 0:19:43.730
<v Speaker 5>And the pros, and the pros these days, it seems

0:19:43.750 --> 0:19:47.070
<v Speaker 5>like they've learned. But the college kids, they're younger. They

0:19:47.090 --> 0:19:48.449
<v Speaker 5>want to make a statement. They want to be on

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<v Speaker 5>SportsCenter with a big hit. And this hit is going

0:19:50.460 --> 0:19:52.740
<v Speaker 5>to cost him a game. But it's like when you

0:19:52.790 --> 0:19:55.129
<v Speaker 5>merge on the highway, you go, I go. There's a

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<v Speaker 5>deal with defensive backs, linebackers, and quarterbacks.

0:19:58.650 --> 0:20:00.510
<v Speaker 4>I slide. You realize I'm sliding.

0:20:00.930 --> 0:20:01.609
<v Speaker 2>You hit the brakes.

0:20:01.670 --> 0:20:03.530
<v Speaker 5>We all kind of peel off from each other, and

0:20:03.570 --> 0:20:05.660
<v Speaker 5>we don't hit each other. This isn't the Kenny Pickett

0:20:05.740 --> 0:20:07.459
<v Speaker 5>era at Pitt where you could do the fake slide

0:20:07.500 --> 0:20:09.540
<v Speaker 5>and run. You can't do that. That's a penalty anymore.

0:20:09.950 --> 0:20:12.330
<v Speaker 5>There's a deal in place. Everyone should respect it. It's

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<v Speaker 5>kind of weird because I'm giving myself up. I'm trying

0:20:15.190 --> 0:20:16.869
<v Speaker 5>not to hit you. That's not what we grew up on.

0:20:17.310 --> 0:20:20.150
<v Speaker 5>But those days are gone. The days of Ronnie Lott

0:20:20.210 --> 0:20:22.320
<v Speaker 5>and those hits from the 80s and those VHS tapes,

0:20:22.410 --> 0:20:24.720
<v Speaker 5>best hits, they're gone. If you hit someone like this,

0:20:25.260 --> 0:20:27.119
<v Speaker 5>you're not going to be celebrated. And if you celebrate

0:20:27.140 --> 0:20:29.080
<v Speaker 5>on the sidelines, you're really not going to be celebrated.

0:20:29.100 --> 0:20:32.800
<v Speaker 5>So honor the deal, defensive backs, linebackers. You don't hit

0:20:32.820 --> 0:20:35.620
<v Speaker 5>the quarterbacks on the slide. And quarterbacks, if you do

0:20:35.660 --> 0:20:38.949
<v Speaker 5>slide and you slide late, Be ready, because there's one

0:20:38.990 --> 0:20:40.290
<v Speaker 5>guy on every team who may do this to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well said.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, the thing about that game, actually, I'm not

0:20:44.270 --> 0:20:46.770
<v Speaker 3>sure that the better quarterback didn't come in for Oregon.

0:20:47.250 --> 0:20:49.250
<v Speaker 3>Everyone kept saying a backup came in. It's not a

0:20:49.290 --> 0:20:52.210
<v Speaker 3>normal backup. Dylan Rayola obviously could have gone anywhere and started.

0:20:52.250 --> 0:20:53.189
<v Speaker 3>He won the whole country.

0:20:53.530 --> 0:20:54.250
<v Speaker 2>I thought he was hurt.

0:20:54.369 --> 0:20:55.870
<v Speaker 3>I thought he was coming off an injury and wasn't

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<v Speaker 3>supposed to be himself. He looked better and more poised

0:20:58.150 --> 0:21:00.190
<v Speaker 3>than he had at any point of his career. So

0:21:00.260 --> 0:21:02.780
<v Speaker 3>it turned out to energize Oregon a little bit. And

0:21:02.800 --> 0:21:05.000
<v Speaker 3>I hope Dante Moore is okay, but Oregon's still a

0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:05.860
<v Speaker 3>very competitive team.

0:21:06.300 --> 0:21:07.900
<v Speaker 4>Great job by Ariel with the bench.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I'll go to the NFL for my next warm take.

0:21:11.040 --> 0:21:14.639
<v Speaker 3>The Pittsburgh Steelers beat the Cincinnati Bengals. Now, Paul, I

0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:16.740
<v Speaker 3>know you don't follow this level of movies that much,

0:21:17.020 --> 0:21:19.340
<v Speaker 3>but Avengers Endgame is in the theaters right now.

0:21:19.480 --> 0:21:20.680
<v Speaker 2>It's sort of a warm-up act.

0:21:20.840 --> 0:21:23.090
<v Speaker 3>It's the old movie that happened about five years ago

0:21:23.380 --> 0:21:25.330
<v Speaker 3>for the new movie that's coming out in December with

0:21:25.350 --> 0:21:28.870
<v Speaker 3>Doctor Doom, Doomsday. You know all about it. The key

0:21:28.910 --> 0:21:31.630
<v Speaker 3>to Avengers is Thanos is inevitable. The bad guy will

0:21:31.810 --> 0:21:35.429
<v Speaker 3>always be a problem. The Pittsburgh Steelers are the Thanos

0:21:35.490 --> 0:21:39.250
<v Speaker 3>of the NFL. They will always be 10 and 7.

0:21:39.250 --> 0:21:40.990
<v Speaker 3>They are completely inevitable.

0:21:41.010 --> 0:21:44.390
<v Speaker 2>Aaron Rodgers, say what you want. Everyone buried him last

0:21:44.450 --> 0:21:47.110
<v Speaker 2>week because he looked terrible. Guess what? It was raining.

0:21:47.350 --> 0:21:48.670
<v Speaker 2>It's still basically.

0:21:48.270 --> 0:21:51.689
<v Speaker 3>Preseason for Pittsburgh because Pittsburgh did not really play Rodgers

0:21:51.730 --> 0:21:52.370
<v Speaker 3>in the preseason.

0:21:52.730 --> 0:21:55.409
<v Speaker 2>What does he do? He comes out Sunday and is awesome.

0:21:55.830 --> 0:21:58.669
<v Speaker 3>Once again, the Steelers beat a divisional opponent that we

0:21:58.710 --> 0:22:02.280
<v Speaker 3>expected them to lose to. They are veering very strong

0:22:02.320 --> 0:22:06.800
<v Speaker 3>for their fourth straight 10-7 season. You know it's coming, Paul.

0:22:07.080 --> 0:22:09.040
<v Speaker 3>You know that they're going to lose to some teams

0:22:09.080 --> 0:22:10.720
<v Speaker 3>that they should beat. You know that they're going to

0:22:10.840 --> 0:22:13.550
<v Speaker 3>beat some teams that they shouldn't. And they're going to

0:22:13.590 --> 0:22:15.880
<v Speaker 3>end up at 10-7, losing the wild card. Now, they've

0:22:15.900 --> 0:22:18.090
<v Speaker 3>lost in the wild card round five out of the

0:22:18.109 --> 0:22:19.930
<v Speaker 3>last six years. They didn't make it the sixth year.

0:22:20.190 --> 0:22:23.330
<v Speaker 3>They haven't won a playoff game since 2016. So I'm

0:22:23.369 --> 0:22:25.170
<v Speaker 3>not talking about them for the Super Bowl, but I

0:22:25.250 --> 0:22:28.230
<v Speaker 3>am talking about them being a average team.

0:22:28.410 --> 0:22:30.250
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter that Mike Tomlin's gone. They're still going

0:22:30.270 --> 0:22:31.170
<v Speaker 2>to be 10 and seven. Okay.

0:22:31.310 --> 0:22:32.850
<v Speaker 5>A couple of things there to recap, because I'm a

0:22:32.869 --> 0:22:35.359
<v Speaker 5>little dizzy, like my algebra one face in high school

0:22:35.400 --> 0:22:36.500
<v Speaker 5>where I'm like, I don't know what's going on.

0:22:37.140 --> 0:22:37.600
<v Speaker 4>Thanos.

0:22:37.720 --> 0:22:40.720
<v Speaker 5>I thought Thanos was that Elizabeth Holmes, uh, medical thing

0:22:40.760 --> 0:22:42.100
<v Speaker 5>that she created that big scam.

0:22:42.420 --> 0:22:44.510
<v Speaker 4>So now I know what Thanos is. Thanks for clarifying.

0:22:45.170 --> 0:22:49.409
<v Speaker 5>Uh, Bigger picture is you are buying into the Steelers short-term, long-term,

0:22:49.490 --> 0:22:51.169
<v Speaker 5>or medium-term.

0:22:51.390 --> 0:22:53.950
<v Speaker 2>I'm not buying in. I'm saying they were 10-7. It's fact.

0:22:53.990 --> 0:22:55.859
<v Speaker 2>They might as well just stop playing and come out

0:22:55.890 --> 0:22:58.540
<v Speaker 2>to the wild card and lose to the Bills. Yeah,

0:22:58.820 --> 0:22:59.820
<v Speaker 2>they're going to be 10-7.

0:23:00.100 --> 0:23:02.320
<v Speaker 3>Remember Mike Tomlin never had a losing season, and you

0:23:02.340 --> 0:23:04.380
<v Speaker 3>could never figure out why, and he was always around.

0:23:04.359 --> 0:23:04.419
<v Speaker 1>500?

0:23:04.400 --> 0:23:06.100
<v Speaker 2>Before the 10-7 run, they were 9-8, 9-7-1, 12-4, 8-8, 9-6-1.

0:23:11.260 --> 0:23:14.570
<v Speaker 3>The Steelers just find a way to be just average,

0:23:14.690 --> 0:23:16.449
<v Speaker 3>not good enough to get a high draft pick for

0:23:16.490 --> 0:23:18.530
<v Speaker 3>a quarterback. They might get a Kenny Pickett once in

0:23:18.550 --> 0:23:20.450
<v Speaker 3>a while, but it doesn't work out. They're going to

0:23:20.470 --> 0:23:22.490
<v Speaker 3>be like this forever. I don't care if Aaron Rodgers

0:23:22.550 --> 0:23:24.409
<v Speaker 3>is quarterback. I don't care if it's Big Ben. I

0:23:24.430 --> 0:23:26.470
<v Speaker 3>don't care if it's Mason Rudolph. You have to admit,

0:23:26.510 --> 0:23:29.689
<v Speaker 3>there's just this thing about the Steelers. They always end

0:23:29.710 --> 0:23:31.080
<v Speaker 3>up in the same place. Did you expect them to

0:23:31.100 --> 0:23:32.580
<v Speaker 3>compete on Sunday?

0:23:32.600 --> 0:23:32.659
<v Speaker 4>No.

0:23:32.760 --> 0:23:34.340
<v Speaker 5>We talked about it on Friday. We thought there'd be

0:23:34.380 --> 0:23:36.420
<v Speaker 5>no moving by Rodgers, no blocking for Rodgers.

0:23:36.520 --> 0:23:39.459
<v Speaker 2>He moved incredibly well in the pocket. It was crazy.

0:23:39.480 --> 0:23:41.320
<v Speaker 3>He looked like he was 28 on some plays. And

0:23:41.680 --> 0:23:42.939
<v Speaker 3>one play, he scrambled out to the right. He was

0:23:42.980 --> 0:23:44.960
<v Speaker 3>outrunning guys. Where was that the week before?

0:23:44.980 --> 0:23:45.420
<v Speaker 4>Time machine.

0:23:45.440 --> 0:23:47.080
<v Speaker 5>All right, before we break, let's do a little not

0:23:47.140 --> 0:23:49.280
<v Speaker 5>so bad, not so good. We're chopping up all week three.

0:23:49.300 --> 0:23:50.800
<v Speaker 5>We're having a great time here on Not So Fast.

0:23:51.359 --> 0:23:53.280
<v Speaker 4>Not so bad. I got one. This is a team

0:23:53.320 --> 0:23:55.700
<v Speaker 4>that's not as bad as people think. I'm going to

0:23:55.720 --> 0:23:56.370
<v Speaker 4>go with the Commanders.

0:23:56.850 --> 0:23:59.770
<v Speaker 5>Marcus Mariota is a nice backup quarterback, maybe a high-ish

0:23:59.950 --> 0:24:03.090
<v Speaker 5>end backup quarterback, and they took down the Seahawks. Now,

0:24:03.570 --> 0:24:05.470
<v Speaker 5>I don't know how threatening they are, but if teams

0:24:05.490 --> 0:24:08.710
<v Speaker 5>like the Cowboys and the Eagles somehow give up games,

0:24:08.730 --> 0:24:11.129
<v Speaker 5>like if the Eagles somehow lost tonight and the Giants

0:24:11.170 --> 0:24:14.590
<v Speaker 5>are going nowhere... We could have a little resurgence. Jane

0:24:14.630 --> 0:24:18.129
<v Speaker 5>Daniels gets healthy. His elbow gets better. And Mario writes

0:24:18.170 --> 0:24:20.710
<v Speaker 5>the ship, not holds down the ship. He writes the ship,

0:24:20.750 --> 0:24:22.560
<v Speaker 5>gets a win or two, and hands off and they

0:24:22.600 --> 0:24:23.020
<v Speaker 5>go on a run.

0:24:23.060 --> 0:24:23.419
<v Speaker 4>Possible?

0:24:24.420 --> 0:24:26.530
<v Speaker 3>In my mind, that would be the biggest shock of

0:24:26.550 --> 0:24:29.290
<v Speaker 3>the NFL season. I don't see the Commanders winning more

0:24:29.330 --> 0:24:32.050
<v Speaker 3>than five games. And I don't even see the scenario where... Still,

0:24:32.310 --> 0:24:33.030
<v Speaker 3>you didn't convince me.

0:24:33.109 --> 0:24:33.350
<v Speaker 2>Why?

0:24:33.869 --> 0:24:34.209
<v Speaker 1>How?

0:24:34.490 --> 0:24:36.350
<v Speaker 2>First of all, the Seahawks... They did it versus the Seahawks.

0:24:36.369 --> 0:24:37.129
<v Speaker 2>The Seahawks.

0:24:37.690 --> 0:24:40.030
<v Speaker 3>Sam Darnold was coming back. The Seahawks won in no

0:24:40.090 --> 0:24:40.730
<v Speaker 3>part with that one.

0:24:40.750 --> 0:24:42.750
<v Speaker 5>Sam Darnold, he wasn't gone for like five years. He

0:24:42.790 --> 0:24:43.830
<v Speaker 5>wasn't Colin Kaepernick.

0:24:43.850 --> 0:24:45.540
<v Speaker 3>He was just a little rusty. They outgamed them by

0:24:45.580 --> 0:24:48.960
<v Speaker 3>about a million yards. That was a fluke, fluke win.

0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.800
<v Speaker 3>And honestly, I actually think more about draft position because

0:24:51.840 --> 0:24:54.879
<v Speaker 3>we'll see... The bigger issue for Washington, not even this season,

0:24:54.900 --> 0:24:56.119
<v Speaker 3>do they commit to Jaden Daniels?

0:24:56.140 --> 0:24:58.140
<v Speaker 4>Quickly, not so good, the Houston Texans.

0:24:58.820 --> 0:25:01.119
<v Speaker 5>I know they've started slow before and found a way

0:25:01.160 --> 0:25:03.560
<v Speaker 5>to rally for the playoffs, but this doesn't look right.

0:25:03.660 --> 0:25:08.170
<v Speaker 5>The defense looks mild. The offense looks non-threatening again. They

0:25:08.210 --> 0:25:09.010
<v Speaker 5>don't run the ball.

0:25:09.470 --> 0:25:09.790
<v Speaker 2>C.J.

0:25:09.810 --> 0:25:13.610
<v Speaker 4>Stroud hasn't had a big, great game, it seems like,

0:25:13.650 --> 0:25:14.210
<v Speaker 4>in two years.

0:25:14.290 --> 0:25:16.830
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's shocking to me. Stroud's not the main problem, though.

0:25:16.850 --> 0:25:19.430
<v Speaker 3>I think the defense should be more scary.

0:25:19.450 --> 0:25:21.330
<v Speaker 4>They should be pitching shutouts. I mean, Daniel Jones is

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<v Speaker 4>not that threatening.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. It's strange to me that they're 0-3.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a tough first two games, obviously the Bills

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<v Speaker 3>and Josh Allen, but the Colts, the Colts without Alec Pierce,

0:25:32.520 --> 0:25:34.300
<v Speaker 3>I feel like this is a must-win game and they

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<v Speaker 3>did not show up.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, stick around.

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<v Speaker 5>We're chopping up a lot more Week 3 on Not

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<v Speaker 5>So Fast. We'll get you ready for the baseball playoffs

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<v Speaker 5>on NBC tomorrow, more college football, and the Clip Joint.

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<v Speaker 4>Stick around. All that coming up. Not So Fast. Pass

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<v Speaker 4>the pro off.

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<v Speaker 3>Welcome back to Not So Fast, Perloff and Papps. If

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<v Speaker 3>you hadn't heard, major trade in the NFL. Because of

0:25:52.359 --> 0:25:55.679
<v Speaker 3>this injury to Jackson Dart, the Giants have traded for J.J.

0:25:55.720 --> 0:26:00.960
<v Speaker 3>McCarthy for a fifth-round pick to Minnesota. I know Dart's

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<v Speaker 3>out for the season. To me, Paul, this doesn't say

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<v Speaker 3>that Dart is not the quarterback of their future.

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<v Speaker 2>It says we're going to take a flyer on J.J.

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<v Speaker 2>McCarthy for this season.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, sell this to me, because if I'm a Giants fan,

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<v Speaker 5>I say... We're giving up a fifth-round draft pitch, which

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<v Speaker 5>is not nothing, but not a lot for a quarterback

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<v Speaker 5>in case they work out.

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<v Speaker 4>But sell this to me as the future of our team.

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<v Speaker 5>I thought it was all Jackson Dart when he got back,

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<v Speaker 5>and now it's like you're sending a message, we don't

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<v Speaker 5>trust Jackson Dart's recovery.

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<v Speaker 3>That's a good point. If you don't trust him physically,

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<v Speaker 3>maybe so. But a fifth-round pick doesn't say we don't

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<v Speaker 3>believe in our first-round pick.

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<v Speaker 2>Think about it.

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<v Speaker 3>If they had traded a fifth-round pick for a backup quarterback,

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<v Speaker 3>you wouldn't say that guy is going to challenge Jackson Dart.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, so the best-case scenario here is J.J. McCarthy comes in,

0:26:42.320 --> 0:26:45.970
<v Speaker 5>plays above-average football. and leads you to a couple wins

0:26:46.070 --> 0:26:48.609
<v Speaker 5>and out of the draft picture? I guess I'm saying,

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<v Speaker 5>what is the goal here?

0:26:49.450 --> 0:26:52.770
<v Speaker 3>Well, maybe there's a scenario where J.J. McCarthy's elite, and

0:26:52.810 --> 0:26:53.950
<v Speaker 3>then Jackson Dart.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait, what?

0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:56.160
<v Speaker 4>I thought you were kidding.

0:26:56.520 --> 0:26:57.140
<v Speaker 2>Just because J.J.

0:26:57.180 --> 0:26:59.660
<v Speaker 3>McCarthy didn't do anything with Kevin O'Connell, probably the best

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<v Speaker 3>quarterback coach in the entire NFC.

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<v Speaker 2>Last year, J.J.

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<v Speaker 3>McCarthy, by the way, was not good. I'll pull out

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<v Speaker 3>a stat while we look at the Giants' schedule. 11 touchdowns,

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<v Speaker 3>12 picks, 57% completion percentage. and some tough teams on

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<v Speaker 3>this schedule.

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<v Speaker 2>That's not good.

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<v Speaker 5>We've seen reclamation projects.

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<v Speaker 4>I want to go back to Sam Darnold. He didn't

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<v Speaker 4>work out with the Jets.

0:27:18.920 --> 0:27:21.930
<v Speaker 5>The Jets traded him to the Carolina Panthers. They got

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<v Speaker 5>a sixth round, a second round, and a fourth round

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<v Speaker 5>for Sam Darnold. That's pretty nice by the Jets. Clearly

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<v Speaker 5>what Minnesota is saying from their side of it is,

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<v Speaker 5>we want this guy gone.

0:27:31.280 --> 0:27:32.540
<v Speaker 4>We don't believe in him in any way.

0:27:33.180 --> 0:27:37.810
<v Speaker 5>We'd rather have Kyler Murray, Carson Wentz, and an open

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<v Speaker 5>future at the quarterback position.

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<v Speaker 2>I think they might have Max Brosmer on the practice squad.

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<v Speaker 4>First team all Brosmer.

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<v Speaker 3>No, I mean, actually, when they announced the quarterback move

0:27:45.859 --> 0:27:47.700
<v Speaker 3>in August, they did say J.J.

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<v Speaker 2>McCarthy could be traded for. They were just waiting for

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<v Speaker 2>an injury. I think they're happy to get a fifth-round pick.

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<v Speaker 5>Minnesota is weirdly in really good shape football-wise for the

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<v Speaker 5>NFC North, but really weird shape quarterback-wise.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, not so fast. Kyler Murray did not look good

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<v Speaker 2>on Sunday.

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<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying.

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<v Speaker 5>They have two questionable quarterbacks, but they're in really good

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<v Speaker 5>shape for maybe a playoff spot.

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<v Speaker 3>Probably, though. I mean, they've been outgained like crazy. There

0:28:11.619 --> 0:28:13.940
<v Speaker 3>is sort of a magic trick to be 3-0 for them.

0:28:14.160 --> 0:28:16.260
<v Speaker 3>Brian Flores, their defense coordinator, should take all the credit.

0:28:16.540 --> 0:28:18.080
<v Speaker 2>None of the quarterbacks. But obviously, J.J.

0:28:18.119 --> 0:28:20.820
<v Speaker 3>McCarthy wasn't going to contribute to that. This, to me,

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<v Speaker 3>is a Harbaugh thing. The Harbaugh is like to keep

0:28:23.220 --> 0:28:25.659
<v Speaker 3>it in family. Jim Harbaugh loved J.J.

0:28:25.700 --> 0:28:28.000
<v Speaker 2>McCarthy. J.J. McCarthy saved his job at Michigan.

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<v Speaker 4>So this is a brother favor.

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<v Speaker 3>It's not even a favor. I think that the Harbaugh's

0:28:32.210 --> 0:28:35.730
<v Speaker 3>think alike. And Jim Harbaugh gets so excited about his quarterbacks.

0:28:35.770 --> 0:28:38.250
<v Speaker 3>He's probably been talking about J.J. McCarthy at the Thanksgiving

0:28:38.270 --> 0:28:39.910
<v Speaker 3>dinner table for five years.

0:28:39.970 --> 0:28:41.850
<v Speaker 2>And John's like, well, you know what? Jim loves him.

0:28:42.450 --> 0:28:44.550
<v Speaker 2>And J.J. McCarthy, one thing about him, he can run.

0:28:44.770 --> 0:28:45.570
<v Speaker 2>He can move a lot.

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<v Speaker 5>Well, I still like him as a quarterback prospect because

0:28:47.930 --> 0:28:49.770
<v Speaker 5>I thought at Michigan he reminded you of kind of

0:28:49.820 --> 0:28:52.540
<v Speaker 5>a poor man's Aaron Rodgers. Enough movement, big arm. All right,

0:28:52.560 --> 0:28:54.540
<v Speaker 5>let's riff the games. Let's riff the games week three.

0:28:54.580 --> 0:28:56.060
<v Speaker 5>Let's stay in the NFL pro. We did a little

0:28:56.080 --> 0:28:57.200
<v Speaker 5>college football minutes ago.

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<v Speaker 4>Here we go. You don't know what's coming here. How

0:28:59.800 --> 0:29:01.450
<v Speaker 4>real are the Raiders going forward?

0:29:02.470 --> 0:29:05.270
<v Speaker 2>Ooh, this 3-0 is a mirage. There's no doubt about it.

0:29:05.290 --> 0:29:08.870
<v Speaker 3>The schedule's been relatively easy. No, I didn't even make

0:29:08.910 --> 0:29:12.130
<v Speaker 3>that connection. Or the mirage to the casino. No, I

0:29:12.170 --> 0:29:15.170
<v Speaker 3>think the Raiders are good, not great. I think they

0:29:15.190 --> 0:29:17.310
<v Speaker 3>have a great chance to get a wild card. When

0:29:17.360 --> 0:29:19.210
<v Speaker 3>I say that, I mean, they could be a wild card,

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<v Speaker 3>but do not think for one second this is an

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<v Speaker 3>AFC contender.

0:29:22.540 --> 0:29:23.300
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, you look at.

0:29:23.300 --> 0:29:25.740
<v Speaker 5>That Kansas City Chiefs game. You do have Brock Bowers back.

0:29:25.780 --> 0:29:26.460
<v Speaker 5>That feels great.

0:29:26.520 --> 0:29:27.100
<v Speaker 2>He was awesome.

0:29:27.120 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 5>You've got to feel like you could pick off a

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<v Speaker 5>win against New England, pick off a win against the Jets,

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<v Speaker 5>and it might put you in where you're 4-3 going

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<v Speaker 5>into that point of the season, and so you keep Cousins.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, definitely keep Cousins. Unfortunately, you've got the NFC West here.

0:29:41.220 --> 0:29:45.380
<v Speaker 3>Whoever has the AFC North, the Steelers and those teams,

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<v Speaker 3>they have the NFC South, so that's just, they're going

0:29:48.140 --> 0:29:50.940
<v Speaker 3>to gobble up wins against that awful conference, so the Raiders'

0:29:50.960 --> 0:29:53.630
<v Speaker 3>schedule might make it tough for them in the wildcard competition.

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<v Speaker 5>You are harsh and snarky today. I made my call

0:29:55.650 --> 0:29:57.790
<v Speaker 5>a couple weeks ago. I thought that Mendoza would start

0:29:57.810 --> 0:30:00.320
<v Speaker 5>against the Jets. I'm going to say he starts... The

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<v Speaker 5>second to last week of the season.

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<v Speaker 2>How about the Jets in week three of next year?

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<v Speaker 2>All right.

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<v Speaker 5>Should we be talking about the San Francisco 49ers more

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<v Speaker 5>than we already are?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, my gosh. They look so good, Paul. Brock Purdy

0:30:12.630 --> 0:30:13.930
<v Speaker 2>looks like an MVP candidate.

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<v Speaker 4>Nine touchdowns.

0:30:14.970 --> 0:30:17.430
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Christian McCaffrey is doing his thing. It's all about

0:30:17.450 --> 0:30:20.120
<v Speaker 3>the old guys. George Kittle looks great. Debo Samuel looks great.

0:30:20.460 --> 0:30:22.540
<v Speaker 3>And they were impressive the other day.

0:30:22.620 --> 0:30:24.860
<v Speaker 2>Listen, they let the Cardinals throw some yards yesterday.

0:30:25.120 --> 0:30:27.620
<v Speaker 3>Those are meaningless points. I am thrilled with the Niners.

0:30:28.620 --> 0:30:30.760
<v Speaker 3>Bosa comes back in maybe four to five weeks.

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<v Speaker 5>You said something earlier in the show about two weeks ago.

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<v Speaker 5>You said, The Niners are accustomed to having injured stars,

0:30:36.180 --> 0:30:37.820
<v Speaker 5>so the Bosa injury is not that big of a deal.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, he's sort of their MVP. I think long-term, if

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:44.040
<v Speaker 2>you want to compete for a Super Bowl, then you

0:30:44.060 --> 0:30:46.300
<v Speaker 2>need Nick Bosa. To me, this season is.

0:30:46.280 --> 0:30:48.910
<v Speaker 3>About Kyle Shanahan. We've been thinking about him. He has

0:30:48.930 --> 0:30:51.090
<v Speaker 3>to win a Super Bowl to get over the hump legacy-wise.

0:30:51.450 --> 0:30:52.590
<v Speaker 3>And I didn't think it was going to happen this

0:30:52.610 --> 0:30:54.110
<v Speaker 3>year because they're so old and injury-prone.

0:30:54.490 --> 0:30:56.870
<v Speaker 2>But guess what? I'm back on the Kyle Shanahan Super

0:30:56.910 --> 0:30:57.210
<v Speaker 2>Bowl watch.

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<v Speaker 4>If he wins the division, is he coach of the year?

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<v Speaker 2>Coach of the Year.

0:31:00.620 --> 0:31:01.230
<v Speaker 4>Over the Rams?

0:31:01.260 --> 0:31:04.400
<v Speaker 3>No, because he's not. Because there's a formula for Coach

0:31:04.460 --> 0:31:04.760
<v Speaker 3>of the Year.

0:31:04.780 --> 0:31:05.940
<v Speaker 2>It's like a Heisman. Right.

0:31:05.980 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 5>You have to be coaching a team that's not expected

0:31:08.780 --> 0:31:10.420
<v Speaker 5>to make the playoffs, and you somehow scare up a

0:31:10.440 --> 0:31:10.700
<v Speaker 5>playoff spot.

0:31:10.820 --> 0:31:13.060
<v Speaker 2>Right. So he had 12 wins last year, I believe.

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:15.300
<v Speaker 2>So you can't go from 12 wins to 14 wins.

0:31:15.600 --> 0:31:17.600
<v Speaker 2>But who cares about that? He might win a ring

0:31:17.900 --> 0:31:19.640
<v Speaker 2>because these old guys are playing amazing. All right.

0:31:19.660 --> 0:31:21.120
<v Speaker 4>Two more Riff in the Games questions.

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<v Speaker 5>Will we, and I mean me, or the media or

0:31:24.380 --> 0:31:27.280
<v Speaker 5>the fans, embrace the Browns and their quarterback if they

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<v Speaker 5>continue to win?

0:31:28.320 --> 0:31:28.480
<v Speaker 2>No.

0:31:28.960 --> 0:31:31.980
<v Speaker 3>The national media, in my opinion, will never embrace Deshaun Watson.

0:31:32.220 --> 0:31:34.640
<v Speaker 3>The local media very much will.

0:31:34.680 --> 0:31:39.010
<v Speaker 2>Begrudgingly? Begrudgingly, but winning football games means so much.

0:31:39.070 --> 0:31:40.970
<v Speaker 3>There was a clip after the game where Deshaun Watson

0:31:40.990 --> 0:31:43.010
<v Speaker 3>ran into the tunnel and GM Andrew Barry gave him

0:31:43.050 --> 0:31:45.730
<v Speaker 3>a hug. And a lot of people in Cleveland thought

0:31:45.910 --> 0:31:48.390
<v Speaker 3>on social media, this is a feel-good moment. And let's

0:31:48.430 --> 0:31:50.790
<v Speaker 3>face it, the Browns are hungry for a winner. What

0:31:50.810 --> 0:31:51.930
<v Speaker 3>would you do if you were in Cleveland?

0:31:52.270 --> 0:31:53.890
<v Speaker 5>It's one of those where you have to root for laundry.

0:31:54.350 --> 0:31:55.650
<v Speaker 5>You can't say, I'm going to go out and get

0:31:55.690 --> 0:31:57.580
<v Speaker 5>a Deshaun Watson jersey. You're not going to do that.

0:31:57.600 --> 0:31:59.320
<v Speaker 5>I don't know what you tell your kids that the

0:31:59.340 --> 0:32:01.900
<v Speaker 5>quarterback you're clapping for if they Google his history, but

0:32:01.940 --> 0:32:02.660
<v Speaker 5>you have no choice.

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<v Speaker 4>Teams have been there.

0:32:03.860 --> 0:32:05.600
<v Speaker 5>They have guys on the roster who are not beloved

0:32:05.640 --> 0:32:08.330
<v Speaker 5>by fans, but nobody thought Deshaun Watson would go on

0:32:08.370 --> 0:32:10.350
<v Speaker 5>a run. And when I say a run, he's throwing

0:32:10.390 --> 0:32:12.710
<v Speaker 5>like two touchdowns, no picks, and 200 yards a game.

0:32:13.090 --> 0:32:14.710
<v Speaker 5>But if you're desperate as a Browns fan, you just

0:32:14.730 --> 0:32:15.820
<v Speaker 5>want some clean quarterback play.

0:32:15.990 --> 0:32:17.780
<v Speaker 3>Well, the key for Deshaun Watson is his ability to

0:32:17.820 --> 0:32:20.340
<v Speaker 3>run with the football. And my question, Paul, is can

0:32:20.360 --> 0:32:22.800
<v Speaker 3>he run like he did yesterday and not get hurt?

0:32:22.860 --> 0:32:25.060
<v Speaker 2>Because injuries were the problem the last four years.

0:32:25.440 --> 0:32:27.459
<v Speaker 5>On the last drive of the game, he got hit

0:32:27.480 --> 0:32:28.719
<v Speaker 5>and had to come out for one play. He got

0:32:28.760 --> 0:32:30.440
<v Speaker 5>hit right in the face, and he does take some

0:32:30.460 --> 0:32:33.300
<v Speaker 5>unnecessary hits. All right, last one. And this is for tonight.

0:32:33.340 --> 0:32:36.060
<v Speaker 5>As we said, Bears fan, Eagles fan, one of that

0:32:36.100 --> 0:32:40.290
<v Speaker 5>football soldier field. If the Eagles lose tonight, dot, dot, dot,

0:32:40.330 --> 0:32:41.010
<v Speaker 5>finish that statement.

0:32:41.370 --> 0:32:45.209
<v Speaker 3>Oh, the local media will kill offensive coordinator Sean Mannion.

0:32:45.610 --> 0:32:46.890
<v Speaker 4>Oh, is he first to get the blame?

0:32:46.910 --> 0:32:48.770
<v Speaker 3>He's first to get the blame because last year the

0:32:48.880 --> 0:32:50.800
<v Speaker 3>Eagles did nothing against the Bears. If you remember on

0:32:50.840 --> 0:32:53.940
<v Speaker 3>Black Friday, the Bears destroyed them. But everyone is worried

0:32:53.960 --> 0:32:56.060
<v Speaker 3>about the offense right now because it's not moving a lot.

0:32:56.420 --> 0:32:57.160
<v Speaker 2>Jalen Hurts has.

0:32:57.080 --> 0:32:59.960
<v Speaker 3>Made great fourth-quarter plays, but he's like Bo Nix and

0:32:59.980 --> 0:33:02.280
<v Speaker 3>Caleb Williams. The first three quarters have not been great.

0:33:02.600 --> 0:33:03.660
<v Speaker 2>I think it's all about the offense.

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<v Speaker 4>All right, that's us riffing the games.

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<v Speaker 5>Week three, send in your thoughts, and we'll get to

0:33:06.790 --> 0:33:09.650
<v Speaker 5>those a little bit in constructive criticism. But coming up next,

0:33:09.670 --> 0:33:15.130
<v Speaker 5>it's time for the Cliff Join. David Pollock, Herm Edwards,

0:33:15.210 --> 0:33:16.730
<v Speaker 5>and much, much more from the DP Show.

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<v Speaker 2>Stick around.

0:33:17.350 --> 0:33:18.430
<v Speaker 4>Not so fast. Pabst and Prowl.

0:33:23.630 --> 0:33:25.890
<v Speaker 2>Was there a guy that you did not want to

0:33:25.930 --> 0:33:29.280
<v Speaker 2>tackle when you played? Like you had to, but you

0:33:29.300 --> 0:33:31.190
<v Speaker 2>knew it was going to hurt? The guy in our

0:33:31.210 --> 0:33:36.680
<v Speaker 2>division then was running back, you'll remember him, John Riggins. Right? Yeah, Riggo.

0:33:36.740 --> 0:33:38.420
<v Speaker 2>You didn't want nothing to do with Riggins.

0:33:38.620 --> 0:33:42.960
<v Speaker 4>I mean, look, Earl Campbell. Walter Payton.

0:33:44.200 --> 0:33:45.740
<v Speaker 1>It was a running back league.

0:33:45.760 --> 0:33:48.719
<v Speaker 2>That's true. When I was in the league, it was

0:33:48.760 --> 0:33:49.440
<v Speaker 2>a runner's league.

0:33:49.460 --> 0:33:51.300
<v Speaker 4>It was like, oh, boy, you got to play these guys.

0:33:52.220 --> 0:33:55.060
<v Speaker 1>Now it's a passing league, obviously, but it was a

0:33:55.100 --> 0:33:58.960
<v Speaker 1>different set of circumstances in the years that I played.

0:33:59.790 --> 0:34:02.310
<v Speaker 5>Back on the clip joint, not so fast, Pabst and Perloff.

0:34:02.330 --> 0:34:04.070
<v Speaker 5>That was Herm Edwards, always a great guest on the

0:34:04.090 --> 0:34:06.610
<v Speaker 5>Dan Patrick Show. When he starts chopping up running backs,

0:34:07.190 --> 0:34:08.469
<v Speaker 5>where does your mind go for?

0:34:08.510 --> 0:34:09.509
<v Speaker 4>We're children of the 80s.

0:34:09.510 --> 0:34:12.170
<v Speaker 5>The running backs who maybe people don't know about as

0:34:12.210 --> 0:34:13.590
<v Speaker 5>much now, but you're like.

0:34:13.610 --> 0:34:14.549
<v Speaker 4>I wish you could have saw them play.

0:34:15.110 --> 0:34:15.750
<v Speaker 2>Oh, my God.

0:34:15.810 --> 0:34:17.730
<v Speaker 3>I mean, Earl Campbell is at the top of the list.

0:34:17.930 --> 0:34:20.330
<v Speaker 3>Eric Dickerson with the upright running style would just be

0:34:20.450 --> 0:34:21.169
<v Speaker 3>cooking down the field.

0:34:21.190 --> 0:34:21.950
<v Speaker 4>The rec spec goggles.

0:34:21.969 --> 0:34:23.170
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, 100 miles an hour.

0:34:23.590 --> 0:34:25.890
<v Speaker 3>Obviously, Bo Jackson, for anyone who didn't get to see

0:34:25.910 --> 0:34:28.680
<v Speaker 3>him actually play football, because I think he's more legend

0:34:28.700 --> 0:34:31.299
<v Speaker 3>and myth now, and people forget he was actually awesome.

0:34:31.440 --> 0:34:33.600
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think the one is going back to Earl Campbell,

0:34:33.620 --> 0:34:36.620
<v Speaker 5>like he said. If you didn't see live Earl Campbell's

0:34:36.660 --> 0:34:41.739
<v Speaker 5>first four years, they're really stunning. He was really uncoverable, untackleable,

0:34:42.260 --> 0:34:44.020
<v Speaker 5>and he did it on national TV. There was a

0:34:44.080 --> 0:34:46.480
<v Speaker 5>Monday night game that Al Michaels called, and he ran

0:34:46.480 --> 0:34:47.520
<v Speaker 5>80 yards on a play.

0:34:48.489 --> 0:34:50.230
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, with the shoulder pads hanging out.

0:34:50.410 --> 0:34:52.870
<v Speaker 4>Watch those Earl Campbell. Eric Dickerson's another one.

0:34:52.910 --> 0:34:55.250
<v Speaker 5>When he started going and you saw that track speed upright,

0:34:55.530 --> 0:34:57.669
<v Speaker 5>you thought every record running back-wise was getting broken.

0:34:57.750 --> 0:34:58.469
<v Speaker 2>Which it kind of did.

0:34:59.170 --> 0:35:01.759
<v Speaker 3>Actually, I thought when I heard that clip, Modern day,

0:35:01.800 --> 0:35:03.650
<v Speaker 3>who's the guy you don't want to tackle? For me,

0:35:03.750 --> 0:35:05.770
<v Speaker 3>it was Adrian Peterson when he was at his peak.

0:35:06.130 --> 0:35:08.430
<v Speaker 3>I saw more guys make business decisions when he was

0:35:08.469 --> 0:35:10.370
<v Speaker 3>coming down the field, especially if it was cold out.

0:35:10.770 --> 0:35:12.690
<v Speaker 2>People were just like, yeah, you go, Adrian. I'm good.

0:35:12.750 --> 0:35:14.529
<v Speaker 5>But it doesn't feel like in this generation you can

0:35:14.570 --> 0:35:17.090
<v Speaker 5>have that guy who doesn't also catch passes.

0:35:17.130 --> 0:35:18.790
<v Speaker 4>Go back to Leonard Fournette out of LSU.

0:35:19.110 --> 0:35:20.549
<v Speaker 5>When he came out of college, people thought this is

0:35:20.590 --> 0:35:22.840
<v Speaker 5>going to be the power back of this generation.

0:35:23.260 --> 0:35:24.859
<v Speaker 4>But he was not a pass catcher. He was average

0:35:24.880 --> 0:35:26.020
<v Speaker 4>at it, so he didn't get enough runs.

0:35:26.340 --> 0:35:28.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, also Leonard Fournette didn't really truck people in the NFL.

0:35:29.140 --> 0:35:32.839
<v Speaker 2>He did at LSU. I'm going to tell you, some

0:35:32.880 --> 0:35:33.560
<v Speaker 2>guys are muscular.

0:35:33.960 --> 0:35:38.440
<v Speaker 3>For example, the great Georgia running back, Herschel Walker, got

0:35:38.460 --> 0:35:40.960
<v Speaker 3>to the NFL. He was easy to tackle for some reason.

0:35:40.980 --> 0:35:42.939
<v Speaker 3>You know what I'm talking about? He had giant shoulder pads,

0:35:43.160 --> 0:35:45.640
<v Speaker 3>but you could bring him down. For me, a guy

0:35:45.680 --> 0:35:48.359
<v Speaker 3>like Fournette is so strong and muscular, but a guy

0:35:48.380 --> 0:35:49.920
<v Speaker 3>like Derrick Henry, now that's.

0:35:49.739 --> 0:35:50.319
<v Speaker 2>Who I don't want to see.

0:35:50.460 --> 0:35:52.719
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Henry also does the, he'll baptize you with the

0:35:52.739 --> 0:35:54.610
<v Speaker 5>stiff arm. All right, sticking in with going back to

0:35:54.670 --> 0:35:57.150
<v Speaker 5>college football now, David Pollock was on the show with

0:35:57.170 --> 0:36:00.250
<v Speaker 5>Dan Patrick, and he talked about Arch Manning and kind

0:36:00.270 --> 0:36:02.450
<v Speaker 5>of talked about how he's processing, how he's doing things,

0:36:02.489 --> 0:36:05.030
<v Speaker 5>and had this recommendation or thought about Arch's future.

0:36:06.160 --> 0:36:10.770
<v Speaker 1>I think Arch Manning has exceptional talent. I think his

0:36:10.830 --> 0:36:13.529
<v Speaker 1>release is good. His arm is good. He has all

0:36:13.550 --> 0:36:16.910
<v Speaker 1>of the intangibles as well. He has the inside, the heart,

0:36:17.010 --> 0:36:18.610
<v Speaker 1>the character, everything that goes with it.

0:36:18.840 --> 0:36:19.700
<v Speaker 2>He has the size.

0:36:20.060 --> 0:36:24.980
<v Speaker 1>He has everything you need, except Arch Manning's processing is

0:36:25.020 --> 0:36:29.250
<v Speaker 1>just a step slow. It's consistently a step slow. Reps

0:36:29.410 --> 0:36:32.089
<v Speaker 1>definitely help. The more reps you get help. Now listen,

0:36:32.370 --> 0:36:34.779
<v Speaker 1>Sarkeesian's offense isn't really an offense that you're going to

0:36:34.800 --> 0:36:37.520
<v Speaker 1>sit there and go through progressions consistently and do that.

0:36:37.620 --> 0:36:38.820
<v Speaker 2>So I'm not.

0:36:38.739 --> 0:36:40.660
<v Speaker 1>Saying he'll get that at Texas, but I think there's

0:36:40.680 --> 0:36:42.879
<v Speaker 1>a good chance Arch Manning's back in college football next year.

0:36:43.300 --> 0:36:45.850
<v Speaker 5>I think it's a real topic-ish. I don't see this

0:36:45.890 --> 0:36:47.629
<v Speaker 5>happening that he plays another year of college football, Arch.

0:36:47.890 --> 0:36:50.569
<v Speaker 5>I think it's dependent on how far Texas goes, not

0:36:50.630 --> 0:36:52.710
<v Speaker 5>how far he drops or goes in the draft.

0:36:52.900 --> 0:36:54.960
<v Speaker 2>Well, that's interesting. If they don't win a title, for example,

0:36:55.000 --> 0:36:57.200
<v Speaker 2>you think Arch might be lured to come back to

0:36:57.239 --> 0:36:57.759
<v Speaker 2>try and win it all?

0:36:57.780 --> 0:37:00.120
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, like a first-round playoff exit in the college football

0:37:00.160 --> 0:37:02.219
<v Speaker 5>playoffs for Texas, I could see Arch going, no, no, no,

0:37:02.280 --> 0:37:07.710
<v Speaker 5>not on my watch, because none of his father, his grandfather,

0:37:07.770 --> 0:37:09.230
<v Speaker 5>his uncles, they want to get this.

0:37:09.430 --> 0:37:11.680
<v Speaker 2>Well, Peyton State of Tennessee, famously. Yep.

0:37:12.070 --> 0:37:14.470
<v Speaker 3>Maybe to avoid the Jets. Eli stayed at Ole Miss.

0:37:14.989 --> 0:37:17.350
<v Speaker 3>I don't remember if Archie even had the choice of leaving.

0:37:17.370 --> 0:37:20.660
<v Speaker 3>But Manning's stay doesn't need the NFL money. That's of

0:37:20.800 --> 0:37:22.379
<v Speaker 3>no interest to him. He's already getting paid a ton

0:37:22.420 --> 0:37:26.040
<v Speaker 3>of NIL. And his dad, Cooper, we know has plenty

0:37:26.080 --> 0:37:26.460
<v Speaker 3>of investments.

0:37:26.500 --> 0:37:27.339
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he knows what he's doing.

0:37:27.360 --> 0:37:29.040
<v Speaker 3>So there are a lot of reasons to think. I

0:37:29.080 --> 0:37:31.180
<v Speaker 3>just think that so much could go wrong for staying

0:37:31.219 --> 0:37:31.690
<v Speaker 3>another year.

0:37:31.770 --> 0:37:34.230
<v Speaker 2>What's the point? I feel like there's more downside to it.

0:37:34.469 --> 0:37:36.509
<v Speaker 2>than upside. And we're even seeing it this year.

0:37:36.690 --> 0:37:39.730
<v Speaker 3>Texas seems to find ways to look bad.

0:37:39.750 --> 0:37:40.969
<v Speaker 2>I don't think there's anything in.

0:37:41.030 --> 0:37:42.089
<v Speaker 4>It for Orange. While winning.

0:37:42.110 --> 0:37:42.590
<v Speaker 2>While winning.

0:37:42.670 --> 0:37:43.430
<v Speaker 4>Yeah.

0:37:43.550 --> 0:37:45.359
<v Speaker 2>You know, and also, Arch is in a bad spot

0:37:45.380 --> 0:37:46.779
<v Speaker 2>a lot of time. I keep on saying this.

0:37:46.840 --> 0:37:49.560
<v Speaker 3>Texas won't, can't run the ball, won't run the ball.

0:37:49.969 --> 0:37:52.190
<v Speaker 3>Arch isn't a lot of third and nine, and no

0:37:52.250 --> 0:37:54.110
<v Speaker 3>one looks good in that. For example, on Saturday, he

0:37:54.140 --> 0:37:57.120
<v Speaker 3>only threw 19 passes, and everyone said Arch looked terrible.

0:37:57.140 --> 0:37:59.259
<v Speaker 2>Well, he wasn't even on the field that much. Right.

0:37:59.480 --> 0:38:02.680
<v Speaker 5>Well, because the reactions to Arch Manning are extreme either way.

0:38:02.840 --> 0:38:05.890
<v Speaker 5>There's no measured— he' s the hot take feeder.

0:38:06.219 --> 0:38:07.550
<v Speaker 4>And no one can say, you know, he had a

0:38:07.590 --> 0:38:09.770
<v Speaker 4>nice game. Nice game doesn't do it. No one gets

0:38:09.810 --> 0:38:10.950
<v Speaker 4>a click. So you said he had a nice but

0:38:11.010 --> 0:38:12.130
<v Speaker 4>non-threatening game. You've got to say it.

0:38:12.370 --> 0:38:12.910
<v Speaker 2>He was awful.

0:38:12.969 --> 0:38:14.750
<v Speaker 5>He's not worth it. Is that really a Manning? It's

0:38:14.770 --> 0:38:16.830
<v Speaker 5>always way over the top, one direction or another.

0:38:16.930 --> 0:38:18.839
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely. You nailed it. All right. Coming up. Oh, here

0:38:18.860 --> 0:38:19.140
<v Speaker 2>we go.

0:38:19.219 --> 0:38:21.719
<v Speaker 5>Dan Lanning, head coach of Oregon. Man, did he have

0:38:21.739 --> 0:38:24.660
<v Speaker 5>a good weekend. Took care of USC. Then afterwards in

0:38:24.680 --> 0:38:26.540
<v Speaker 5>the press conference, he decided to ease.

0:38:26.600 --> 0:38:28.100
<v Speaker 4>No, he didn't ease up on them. He stepped on

0:38:28.120 --> 0:38:29.060
<v Speaker 4>the gas. Here's Dan Lanning.

0:38:30.600 --> 0:38:32.739
<v Speaker 2>It's a disgusting play. You know, you don't want to

0:38:32.760 --> 0:38:34.620
<v Speaker 2>see it happen. It's disappointing that it happened.

0:38:36.660 --> 0:38:39.160
<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm praying that our player is healthy and

0:38:39.320 --> 0:38:41.420
<v Speaker 4>I'm praying that they're Their player can learn from that

0:38:41.460 --> 0:38:43.020
<v Speaker 4>situation because that's not a moment you want to be

0:38:43.040 --> 0:38:43.440
<v Speaker 4>a part of.

0:38:43.780 --> 0:38:46.430
<v Speaker 6>Three wins against these guys. I guess if you're interested

0:38:46.450 --> 0:38:48.730
<v Speaker 6>in winning football games and you're from this area, you

0:38:48.750 --> 0:38:49.530
<v Speaker 6>should go to Oregon.

0:38:50.070 --> 0:38:51.410
<v Speaker 2>If you want to go to a Chris Brown concert,

0:38:51.750 --> 0:38:54.410
<v Speaker 2>you should go here. That's a walk-off.

0:38:54.930 --> 0:38:56.210
<v Speaker 4>That's an assault.

0:38:56.710 --> 0:38:59.550
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is old-school rivalry kind of thing. We

0:38:59.570 --> 0:39:01.010
<v Speaker 2>don't get a lot of this in college football.

0:39:01.030 --> 0:39:04.069
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, Oregon, that's SEC talk out in Oregon, but you'll

0:39:04.090 --> 0:39:06.270
<v Speaker 5>love it. Hey, step on the gas, make a moment.

0:39:06.620 --> 0:39:09.400
<v Speaker 5>He's trying to recruit every minute, and that's a recruiting

0:39:09.480 --> 0:39:11.319
<v Speaker 5>tool comment as much as it is jabbing comment.

0:39:11.460 --> 0:39:13.110
<v Speaker 3>I remember when Chip Kelly was at Oregon, he would

0:39:13.200 --> 0:39:15.410
<v Speaker 3>get all the LA kids to come up to Oregon,

0:39:15.430 --> 0:39:17.810
<v Speaker 3>which is funny because it rains every day there, basically.

0:39:18.210 --> 0:39:21.029
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, it rains money on his players, NIL-wise. That's what

0:39:21.050 --> 0:39:21.469
<v Speaker 4>I would tell him.

0:39:21.489 --> 0:39:23.930
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, you obviously got Phil Knight and Nike up there.

0:39:24.290 --> 0:39:26.549
<v Speaker 3>This was so embarrassing for USC because they had every

0:39:26.590 --> 0:39:29.989
<v Speaker 3>chance to win a backup quarterback, and Oregon has not

0:39:30.010 --> 0:39:31.240
<v Speaker 3>been good so far this year.

0:39:31.280 --> 0:39:33.920
<v Speaker 2>They haven't been consistent. And this, to me, felt like

0:39:33.960 --> 0:39:35.220
<v Speaker 2>a real sea change for USC.

0:39:35.239 --> 0:39:36.900
<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I think it's a great day for Oregon. A

0:39:36.960 --> 0:39:38.440
<v Speaker 5>lot of big games coming up because now you're in

0:39:38.460 --> 0:39:38.819
<v Speaker 5>the Big Ten.

0:39:38.840 --> 0:39:39.799
<v Speaker 4>There are no easy days off.

0:39:39.820 --> 0:39:42.340
<v Speaker 2>All right, let's turn to the NFL for our next clip.

0:39:42.700 --> 0:39:45.219
<v Speaker 3>Mike Vrabel had a bad Sunday, and it's been a

0:39:45.300 --> 0:39:46.560
<v Speaker 3>bad season so far.

0:39:46.580 --> 0:39:47.150
<v Speaker 2>Let's hear from him.

0:39:49.390 --> 0:39:52.210
<v Speaker 6>Well, my concern level is very high for this football team.

0:39:52.950 --> 0:39:57.530
<v Speaker 6>I just want to coach and improve. So I think

0:39:57.570 --> 0:39:59.820
<v Speaker 6>that's the biggest thing, is when you come off a

0:39:59.840 --> 0:40:03.339
<v Speaker 6>game like that, that you just want to get back

0:40:03.620 --> 0:40:06.839
<v Speaker 6>and work. There's nothing you can do about it, but

0:40:06.880 --> 0:40:09.969
<v Speaker 6>we have to take care of the football. We can't

0:40:10.239 --> 0:40:14.250
<v Speaker 6>force things. We can't do things in all three phases

0:40:14.290 --> 0:40:19.029
<v Speaker 6>that end up getting you beat. So certainly we have

0:40:19.050 --> 0:40:20.700
<v Speaker 6>to You know, fix a lot of things.

0:40:22.260 --> 0:40:24.100
<v Speaker 4>They were in the Super Bowl last year. Oh, yeah.

0:40:24.239 --> 0:40:26.989
<v Speaker 5>Drake May was number two for the MVP award, and

0:40:27.010 --> 0:40:28.250
<v Speaker 5>they were in the Super Bowl last year. It doesn't

0:40:28.270 --> 0:40:29.410
<v Speaker 5>feel like those things ever happened.

0:40:29.590 --> 0:40:31.270
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I have a stat on Drake May that says

0:40:31.290 --> 0:40:31.549
<v Speaker 2>it all.

0:40:32.030 --> 0:40:33.630
<v Speaker 3>Last year in 20 games before the Super Bowl, he

0:40:33.670 --> 0:40:41.200
<v Speaker 3>never threw more than two interceptions. He's thrown two interceptions

0:40:41.239 --> 0:40:42.640
<v Speaker 3>or more in three of the last four games.

0:40:42.700 --> 0:40:43.200
<v Speaker 2>He's broken.

0:40:43.219 --> 0:40:45.140
<v Speaker 3>I mean, there's no way around it, especially the red

0:40:45.180 --> 0:40:47.399
<v Speaker 3>zone interception that Travis Hunter got.

0:40:47.440 --> 0:40:48.740
<v Speaker 2>That was such a bad play.

0:40:48.800 --> 0:40:49.700
<v Speaker 4>But he's not benchable.

0:40:49.860 --> 0:40:51.530
<v Speaker 5>You know, like if you have a young quarterback who's

0:40:51.590 --> 0:40:53.509
<v Speaker 5>never gotten anywhere, you could bench him and say, like,

0:40:53.830 --> 0:40:55.350
<v Speaker 5>let's let him sit a week and think about it.

0:40:55.370 --> 0:40:57.590
<v Speaker 5>Remember Bryce Young two years ago? This is not a

0:40:57.610 --> 0:40:59.050
<v Speaker 5>guy who's benchable for performance.

0:40:59.530 --> 0:41:02.070
<v Speaker 2>No, but definitely it seems like his confidence is shaken.

0:41:02.400 --> 0:41:04.100
<v Speaker 3>And it also seems like last year's Super Bowl trip

0:41:04.140 --> 0:41:06.960
<v Speaker 3>was a bit of an anomaly. They happened to get

0:41:07.060 --> 0:41:10.440
<v Speaker 3>out of the AFC when Mahomes was down. Somehow Denver

0:41:10.480 --> 0:41:12.989
<v Speaker 3>beat Josh Allen. I think last year, Bo Nix was healthy.

0:41:13.010 --> 0:41:14.650
<v Speaker 3>Then New England was not going to be in the

0:41:14.670 --> 0:41:16.489
<v Speaker 3>Super Bowl. All right, back to college football. It's time

0:41:16.510 --> 0:41:18.350
<v Speaker 3>for the rando. This is one of our favorite pictures

0:41:18.370 --> 0:41:21.489
<v Speaker 3>of the weekend, photographs of the weekend. Check this Wisconsin

0:41:21.530 --> 0:41:23.270
<v Speaker 3>fan out. Very, very gutsy here.

0:41:23.290 --> 0:41:23.750
<v Speaker 4>Job by him.

0:41:24.150 --> 0:41:26.470
<v Speaker 5>There he is, right in the middle. You could find him.

0:41:26.550 --> 0:41:28.689
<v Speaker 5>It's a whiteout at Penn State. He got a ticket

0:41:28.710 --> 0:41:30.790
<v Speaker 5>in the student section. He said, yeah, I'm flying my colors.

0:41:31.300 --> 0:41:33.270
<v Speaker 5>They seem to be nice to him. Wisconsin people, Penn

0:41:33.290 --> 0:41:35.310
<v Speaker 5>State people are getting along, but that is a great photo.

0:41:35.530 --> 0:41:38.150
<v Speaker 2>That's amazing. I still want to go to a whiteout.

0:41:38.430 --> 0:41:40.250
<v Speaker 2>Does that guy look a little like Cameron from Ferris

0:41:40.290 --> 0:41:41.569
<v Speaker 2>Bueller's Day Off? I'm a little far away.

0:41:41.630 --> 0:41:42.570
<v Speaker 4>In the Howe jersey?

0:41:42.590 --> 0:41:44.770
<v Speaker 2>Yes. I feel like Cameron's in the middle of a

0:41:44.790 --> 0:41:48.049
<v Speaker 2>bunch of Penn State fans. Hey, you know what? You go,

0:41:48.090 --> 0:41:50.170
<v Speaker 2>Wisconsin fans. It's your day. You get the win.

0:41:50.190 --> 0:41:52.770
<v Speaker 5>You can wear whatever you want. Coming up next, constructive

0:41:52.810 --> 0:41:55.270
<v Speaker 5>criticism and the feel-good. This is one of the best

0:41:55.330 --> 0:41:57.230
<v Speaker 5>feel-goods of the year. You're going to check it out next.

0:41:57.250 --> 0:41:58.089
<v Speaker 4>It's baseball-related.

0:41:58.450 --> 0:41:58.830
<v Speaker 2>Stick around.

0:41:59.110 --> 0:42:00.189
<v Speaker 4>Not so fast. Pass from Perlman.

0:42:01.230 --> 0:42:05.100
<v Speaker 3>The MLB postseason starts tomorrow on NBC and Peacock. First up,

0:42:05.140 --> 0:42:08.100
<v Speaker 3>my Phillies at the Braves. Then White Sox at Astros.

0:42:08.120 --> 0:42:12.120
<v Speaker 3>Then in primetime, Red Sox, Yankees, Padres host the Cubs.

0:42:12.300 --> 0:42:13.440
<v Speaker 2>Oh, it's all awesome.

0:42:13.680 --> 0:42:17.010
<v Speaker 3>The MLB wildcard presented by Abby begins tomorrow on NBC

0:42:17.170 --> 0:42:18.029
<v Speaker 3>and Peacock.

0:42:18.730 --> 0:42:21.210
<v Speaker 2>I'm out of my mind with these matchups. Paul, what

0:42:21.230 --> 0:42:22.340
<v Speaker 2>are you most looking forward to?

0:42:22.350 --> 0:42:25.009
<v Speaker 5>I'm looking forward to being completely tired the next four weeks.

0:42:25.030 --> 0:42:26.810
<v Speaker 5>We're going to be staying up Monday Night Football tonight.

0:42:27.110 --> 0:42:29.360
<v Speaker 5>You've got four games tomorrow. You have to watch baseball playoffs.

0:42:29.830 --> 0:42:32.590
<v Speaker 5>I would say for the baseball playoffs tomorrow, the White Sox.

0:42:32.750 --> 0:42:35.589
<v Speaker 5>The White Sox are kind of this feel-good story. Did

0:42:35.610 --> 0:42:36.310
<v Speaker 5>they get enough?

0:42:36.390 --> 0:42:37.029
<v Speaker 4>Like, was that enough?

0:42:37.050 --> 0:42:38.969
<v Speaker 5>Will they be satisfied making the playoffs, or will they

0:42:38.989 --> 0:42:41.230
<v Speaker 5>go on a run? Because sometimes these teams, glad to

0:42:41.270 --> 0:42:43.310
<v Speaker 5>be here, cute story, they don't go on a run.

0:42:43.690 --> 0:42:45.029
<v Speaker 4>And then for the Cubs, P.

0:42:45.050 --> 0:42:47.640
<v Speaker 5>Crowe Armstrong is going to win the MVP in the NL.

0:42:47.920 --> 0:42:50.319
<v Speaker 5>This is a national showcase for him. They do not

0:42:50.360 --> 0:42:52.140
<v Speaker 5>have a bullpen. It's on him and the bats.

0:42:52.620 --> 0:42:54.940
<v Speaker 3>Okay, obviously, if you're going to Chicago, I'm going to

0:42:54.960 --> 0:42:59.790
<v Speaker 3>go Phillies. Phillies won 87 in 2022, 87 games and

0:42:59.810 --> 0:43:00.529
<v Speaker 3>made it to the World Series.

0:43:00.570 --> 0:43:03.290
<v Speaker 2>This year they won 88. I like that formula. They've

0:43:03.330 --> 0:43:06.780
<v Speaker 2>looked awful. And you know how baseball is completely random.

0:43:06.920 --> 0:43:09.340
<v Speaker 3>Usually, most years, except for last year, there's a five

0:43:09.400 --> 0:43:11.660
<v Speaker 3>or six seed that makes the World Series. In fact,

0:43:11.780 --> 0:43:15.259
<v Speaker 3>every year since 2022, there has been one. I think

0:43:15.280 --> 0:43:17.140
<v Speaker 3>you've got to watch out for all these wildcard teams,

0:43:17.180 --> 0:43:18.910
<v Speaker 3>especially on the lower end, can make a run because

0:43:18.930 --> 0:43:19.630
<v Speaker 3>baseball is random.

0:43:19.910 --> 0:43:21.670
<v Speaker 5>And I love teams that get rid of their manager

0:43:21.730 --> 0:43:24.150
<v Speaker 5>and make the playoffs. Like, it's going so bad in June,

0:43:24.170 --> 0:43:25.870
<v Speaker 5>we've got to boot a guy, and then they somehow

0:43:25.910 --> 0:43:26.610
<v Speaker 5>sneak into the playoffs.

0:43:26.730 --> 0:43:28.189
<v Speaker 3>I've got to be honest, the other thing I'm looking

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<v Speaker 3>forward to is the Braves. Now, listen, I'm rooting against

0:43:30.410 --> 0:43:33.739
<v Speaker 3>the Braves, but Chris Sale is starting game one. He's 37,

0:43:33.739 --> 0:43:37.319
<v Speaker 3>had another Cy Young-like season. How do you not love

0:43:37.360 --> 0:43:37.759
<v Speaker 3>Chris Sale?

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<v Speaker 5>And I think some people have cooled on the Braves.

0:43:39.520 --> 0:43:42.000
<v Speaker 5>Two years ago, they were over 100 wins. Last year,

0:43:42.020 --> 0:43:44.940
<v Speaker 5>they cooled off. Everyone likes the Brewers or the Dodgers, obviously.

0:43:45.320 --> 0:43:47.490
<v Speaker 5>But the Braves feel like a team that two years

0:43:47.530 --> 0:43:48.130
<v Speaker 5>ago should have won it.

0:43:48.260 --> 0:43:51.170
<v Speaker 2>They're under the radar right now, but they're very, very dangerous.

0:43:51.489 --> 0:43:53.630
<v Speaker 5>Chris Sale, by the way, talk about a career recovery.

0:43:53.850 --> 0:43:55.450
<v Speaker 5>He's kind of in that, like, I think I did

0:43:55.489 --> 0:43:57.630
<v Speaker 5>this and you said no, you poo-pooed this. He's kind

0:43:57.650 --> 0:44:00.410
<v Speaker 5>of like Kurt Warner. Great start, messy in the middle,

0:44:00.670 --> 0:44:01.430
<v Speaker 5>great ending of the game.

0:44:01.820 --> 0:44:03.520
<v Speaker 2>I just love how the ball moves off his hand.

0:44:03.540 --> 0:44:05.040
<v Speaker 2>It's incredible to watch.

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<v Speaker 5>Okay, Bears-Eagles at the Bears, Monday Night Football. Case Keenum

0:44:09.570 --> 0:44:10.790
<v Speaker 5>likely starting for the Bears.

0:44:10.810 --> 0:44:13.580
<v Speaker 2>Your thoughts? Well, I'm buddies with Case Keenum. I keep

0:44:13.600 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 2>saying that.

0:44:14.020 --> 0:44:14.680
<v Speaker 4>Can you be objective?

0:44:14.739 --> 0:44:16.760
<v Speaker 3>I'm rooting for him to be good. Now, the Bears

0:44:16.800 --> 0:44:18.620
<v Speaker 3>have a formula. They're going to run the ball all

0:44:18.700 --> 0:44:19.219
<v Speaker 3>over the Eagles.

0:44:19.260 --> 0:44:21.280
<v Speaker 2>That's the point. They did it last year, just dominate

0:44:21.300 --> 0:44:22.040
<v Speaker 2>them on the ground.

0:44:22.440 --> 0:44:24.339
<v Speaker 3>So in that sense, the quarterback doesn't have to do

0:44:24.380 --> 0:44:26.520
<v Speaker 3>a lot, and that keeps the Eagles' run game.

0:44:26.420 --> 0:44:26.799
<v Speaker 2>Out of it.

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<v Speaker 3>I think this is a battle of possession, Paul.

0:44:29.700 --> 0:44:31.820
<v Speaker 2>If the Bears can get first downs on the ground,

0:44:31.860 --> 0:44:32.399
<v Speaker 2>they win the game.

0:44:32.540 --> 0:44:34.560
<v Speaker 5>I think this is a no-win game for the Eagles

0:44:34.600 --> 0:44:37.300
<v Speaker 5>because if they beat a third-string quarterback and a bad defense,

0:44:37.560 --> 0:44:39.859
<v Speaker 5>you get no credit. If you have a struggle, you'll

0:44:39.880 --> 0:44:41.779
<v Speaker 5>probably be critiqued for having a shaky win.

0:44:42.100 --> 0:44:43.779
<v Speaker 4>And if you lose, it's all claws out.

0:44:43.800 --> 0:44:45.780
<v Speaker 5>I think they're going to have trouble with Keenum because

0:44:46.380 --> 0:44:48.860
<v Speaker 5>he is beyond a veteran. The guy's 38 years old.

0:44:48.890 --> 0:44:50.750
<v Speaker 5>He's got more gray hair than us. But they have

0:44:50.770 --> 0:44:52.410
<v Speaker 5>no tape on the guy. He doesn't play a lot.

0:44:52.469 --> 0:44:53.850
<v Speaker 5>He hasn't started the game in three years.

0:44:54.540 --> 0:44:56.299
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but they know Case Keenum.

0:44:56.320 --> 0:44:58.440
<v Speaker 4>There's no curveballs in his game?

0:44:58.600 --> 0:45:02.390
<v Speaker 3>Vic Fangio is literally coordinated. I have four games against Case.

0:45:02.450 --> 0:45:04.290
<v Speaker 3>Case won all of them, by the way. They all

0:45:04.330 --> 0:45:06.150
<v Speaker 3>know each other. What is Case Keenum going to be like?

0:45:06.190 --> 0:45:08.430
<v Speaker 3>They know what a Case Keenum game looks like.

0:45:08.770 --> 0:45:09.509
<v Speaker 4>Final score is?

0:45:09.989 --> 0:45:12.030
<v Speaker 2>I think the Bears win this one 21-19.

0:45:12.050 --> 0:45:13.910
<v Speaker 3>The Eagles almost lost to the Titans, and you saw

0:45:13.950 --> 0:45:16.700
<v Speaker 3>how bad the Titans were this weekend. The Eagles' offense

0:45:16.719 --> 0:45:17.959
<v Speaker 3>has yet to figure out its rhythm.

0:45:18.080 --> 0:45:20.520
<v Speaker 5>I'll go 24-23 Bears. All right, it's time for a

0:45:20.520 --> 0:45:23.500
<v Speaker 5>little constructive criticism. Your feedback on the social media for

0:45:23.540 --> 0:45:24.100
<v Speaker 5>what we're doing.

0:45:24.560 --> 0:45:27.140
<v Speaker 4>Right and wrong. Sometimes more wrong. Here we go, Carl.

0:45:27.219 --> 0:45:27.700
<v Speaker 4>First one.

0:45:30.320 --> 0:45:32.100
<v Speaker 5>Hope you and Paul Pabst discussed the worst of the

0:45:32.140 --> 0:45:36.560
<v Speaker 5>weekends on sportsman conduct in the Texas-Tennessee game and USC-Oregon game.

0:45:36.600 --> 0:45:39.480
<v Speaker 5>Makes alumni fans want to stop watching college football. Yeah,

0:45:39.500 --> 0:45:41.819
<v Speaker 5>we talked about that a little earlier. You know, the

0:45:41.860 --> 0:45:44.180
<v Speaker 5>star player for Texas doing the urination thing.

0:45:45.050 --> 0:45:49.530
<v Speaker 4>It's just, be creative. Be entertaining. You want to dance?

0:45:49.830 --> 0:45:50.130
<v Speaker 2>Great.

0:45:50.190 --> 0:45:52.070
<v Speaker 4>Dancing's fine. Nobody gets upset about dancing.

0:45:52.360 --> 0:45:54.560
<v Speaker 5>When you do the things that are considered vulgar, it

0:45:54.600 --> 0:45:56.420
<v Speaker 5>becomes a lead over the fact that you had five

0:45:56.480 --> 0:45:57.060
<v Speaker 5>sacks in a game.

0:45:57.280 --> 0:45:58.580
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I don't want to be that old guy

0:45:58.600 --> 0:46:00.160
<v Speaker 2>saying I don't like that celebration. I'm worried about that.

0:46:00.400 --> 0:46:02.580
<v Speaker 3>But what made me laugh about the Colin Simmons thing

0:46:02.620 --> 0:46:05.089
<v Speaker 3>is he did the celebration so over the top that

0:46:05.140 --> 0:46:06.189
<v Speaker 3>afterwards he gets the flag.

0:46:06.210 --> 0:46:07.590
<v Speaker 2>He's like, what did I do? What did I do?

0:46:07.810 --> 0:46:09.069
<v Speaker 2>But it was a huge play because it went from

0:46:09.130 --> 0:46:11.410
<v Speaker 2>fourth to 29 to a first down. So that's what

0:46:11.450 --> 0:46:14.469
<v Speaker 2>was frustrating. Do it in a non-important situation.

0:46:14.630 --> 0:46:16.589
<v Speaker 5>And on the halftime show, the guy doing the halftime

0:46:16.610 --> 0:46:19.520
<v Speaker 5>show goes, well, he did simulation of urination on the field. Oh,

0:46:19.530 --> 0:46:21.630
<v Speaker 5>so thank you for telling me he didn't actually urinate

0:46:21.650 --> 0:46:22.790
<v Speaker 5>on the field, because that would have been a real thing.

0:46:22.810 --> 0:46:23.990
<v Speaker 2>He might have, the way he was playing.

0:46:24.230 --> 0:46:26.029
<v Speaker 3>By the way, that being said, if I can draft

0:46:26.050 --> 0:46:27.910
<v Speaker 3>Colin Simmons, I am drafting Colin Simmons.

0:46:27.969 --> 0:46:29.050
<v Speaker 2>I mean, he was dominant.

0:46:29.090 --> 0:46:30.450
<v Speaker 4>I'm so excited I had to pee myself. All right,

0:46:30.469 --> 0:46:33.339
<v Speaker 4>stick around. We've got one more constructive criticism. Here we go.

0:46:33.960 --> 0:46:35.940
<v Speaker 4>Here's a random one. Would your next.

0:46:35.800 --> 0:46:39.060
<v Speaker 5>Car purchase most likely have more technology or less tech

0:46:39.100 --> 0:46:41.739
<v Speaker 5>than what you currently drive? I drive a pickup truck

0:46:41.760 --> 0:46:44.950
<v Speaker 5>from 2013. It's like it's 2003. I don't have a

0:46:44.950 --> 0:46:45.950
<v Speaker 5>lot of tech, not a tech guy.

0:46:46.230 --> 0:46:49.009
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and listen, whenever I drive past like an old

0:46:49.980 --> 0:46:51.859
<v Speaker 3>4Runner or something, I'm like, oh, Paul would probably bid

0:46:51.900 --> 0:46:54.270
<v Speaker 3>on this. I want more tech. I don't know why

0:46:54.310 --> 0:46:57.120
<v Speaker 3>people complain about tech. I am a terrible parallel parker,

0:46:57.380 --> 0:46:59.560
<v Speaker 3>and now I'm a good parallel parker. Paul, I would

0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:02.000
<v Speaker 3>drive a driverless. Would you ever have a Tesla with

0:47:02.160 --> 0:47:02.580
<v Speaker 3>no driver?

0:47:02.620 --> 0:47:03.840
<v Speaker 4>Oh, the driverless cars?

0:47:04.040 --> 0:47:06.700
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. That's the most tech you can have. Not yet.

0:47:07.620 --> 0:47:09.310
<v Speaker 5>I would take a nap, because if you do this,

0:47:09.350 --> 0:47:10.890
<v Speaker 5>I'll be out like this, and I've got to pay

0:47:10.910 --> 0:47:11.690
<v Speaker 5>attention to what's going on.

0:47:11.989 --> 0:47:14.890
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, so basically everyone's going to be driving robot cars,

0:47:14.930 --> 0:47:16.870
<v Speaker 3>and you're going to be chugging along in your Ford

0:47:16.910 --> 0:47:17.090
<v Speaker 3>from 2013?

0:47:17.070 --> 0:47:20.049
<v Speaker 4>That's exactly what's been happening. All right, here we go.

0:47:20.550 --> 0:47:22.189
<v Speaker 4>This is the one. This is the one of the weekend.

0:47:22.210 --> 0:47:24.470
<v Speaker 5>It was a sure thing. The staff voted on the feel-good,

0:47:24.870 --> 0:47:28.359
<v Speaker 5>and it was unanimous. Justin Verlander, back in the Detroit

0:47:28.380 --> 0:47:30.540
<v Speaker 5>Tigers uniform, standing O.

0:47:30.560 --> 0:47:33.000
<v Speaker 4>They're going to pull him out of the game, and oh, no.

0:47:33.920 --> 0:47:34.680
<v Speaker 4>You send the daughter?

0:47:34.700 --> 0:47:34.759
<v Speaker 1>Oh.

0:47:37.770 --> 0:47:41.710
<v Speaker 5>That's a must-cry situation and can't control my crying situation.

0:47:42.030 --> 0:47:44.450
<v Speaker 3>I mean, it was already emotional in the last pitch,

0:47:44.489 --> 0:47:47.229
<v Speaker 3>but we're both girl dads, and my God, was that

0:47:47.270 --> 0:47:47.730
<v Speaker 3>a tough moment.

0:47:47.770 --> 0:47:49.830
<v Speaker 2>I think the whole team was tearing up a little bit.

0:47:49.910 --> 0:47:51.830
<v Speaker 4>He is going to spend a lot at Brandy Melville

0:47:51.870 --> 0:47:55.140
<v Speaker 4>this weekend because she pulled off the pitcher pull of

0:47:55.160 --> 0:47:55.540
<v Speaker 4>the decade.

0:47:56.070 --> 0:47:58.430
<v Speaker 3>I saw Justin Berlander on a home improvement show with

0:47:58.469 --> 0:48:00.950
<v Speaker 3>Kate Upton once, by the way, and he literally is

0:48:00.969 --> 0:48:03.390
<v Speaker 3>spending a lot of time in stores on the weekend.

0:48:03.850 --> 0:48:05.650
<v Speaker 3>I don't know what kind of input he has on

0:48:05.670 --> 0:48:07.710
<v Speaker 3>the house, but, man, that is a lovely way to

0:48:07.750 --> 0:48:08.029
<v Speaker 3>go out.

0:48:08.160 --> 0:48:10.240
<v Speaker 5>Let's say that was us on the mound. Would either

0:48:10.260 --> 0:48:12.000
<v Speaker 5>of us have been able to control the tears and said,

0:48:12.540 --> 0:48:13.020
<v Speaker 5>thank you, daughter?

0:48:13.040 --> 0:48:13.470
<v Speaker 2>Are you kidding me?

0:48:13.480 --> 0:48:15.340
<v Speaker 3>I cried when I saw that on social media.

0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:17.060
<v Speaker 2>You think I could have handled it in real life?

0:48:17.140 --> 0:48:17.660
<v Speaker 2>No way.

0:48:17.739 --> 0:48:20.320
<v Speaker 5>Absolutely not. Great day on Not So Fast, the J.J.

0:48:20.360 --> 0:48:22.820
<v Speaker 5>McCarthy trade. We're going to chop that up tomorrow. I

0:48:22.860 --> 0:48:25.060
<v Speaker 5>don't know what the Giants are thinking. And Monday Night

0:48:25.080 --> 0:48:28.730
<v Speaker 5>Football tonight. Tune into the Dan Patrick Show tomorrow, 9 a.m. Eastern,

0:48:28.890 --> 0:48:31.469
<v Speaker 5>NBC Sports, to recap that entire game and all about

0:48:31.489 --> 0:48:31.830
<v Speaker 5>the trade.

0:48:31.850 --> 0:48:33.109
<v Speaker 4>Stick around. A lot more to come.

0:48:34.650 --> 0:48:35.790
<v Speaker 2>And one of us will be gloating.

0:48:37.840 --> 0:48:39.080
<v Speaker 4>Case Keenum, it's on you, buddy.

0:48:39.700 --> 0:48:39.960
<v Speaker 2>Good luck.