WEBVTT - Noah Kent

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<v Speaker 1>It's the Son of a Bush podcast. Your host Claude

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<v Speaker 1>ha Rman. My guest this week is a nineteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old sophomore at the University of Iowa. You just lost

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<v Speaker 1>in the finals of the us AM. It would have

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<v Speaker 1>been much cooler to say, no, you won in the

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<v Speaker 1>finals of the us AM. But I mean it was

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<v Speaker 1>a hell of a summer for you. I mean what happened.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, obviously, you played great at Iowa last year

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<v Speaker 1>as a freshman, led the team in scoring average, played

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<v Speaker 1>in every tournament as a freshman, which I think is

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<v Speaker 1>a Division one college golfer is very very rare. Your

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<v Speaker 1>stroke average was great, you had a bunch of top tens.

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<v Speaker 1>But you went into the us AM I think ranked

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<v Speaker 1>five hundred and sixty and in the Wagger rankings and

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<v Speaker 1>you got to the finals. So it's been about just

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit under a month. Have you had time

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<v Speaker 1>to decompress and have any kind of reflection on what

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<v Speaker 1>you actually kind of did. I'm second at the Porter

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<v Speaker 1>Cup this summer, so that was a huge stepping stone.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the year in the development. But I mean

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<v Speaker 1>the USM is you know, it's close to being a

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<v Speaker 1>major for you know, you look at the names on

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<v Speaker 1>that trophy of everybody who's wanted. But if you had

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<v Speaker 1>a chance to kind of take stock of what.

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<v Speaker 2>Happened, Yeah, I just want to say thank you so

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<v Speaker 2>much for having me on. This is awesome. It means

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<v Speaker 2>a lot. I don't know. I really haven't reflected yet,

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<v Speaker 2>to be quite honest. I mean, I mean, yeah, my

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<v Speaker 2>dad sent me a thing, and so my parents, my

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<v Speaker 2>mom and Dana. It's just like you get to eat,

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<v Speaker 2>like you see the stuff on Gulf Diye. Just it's

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<v Speaker 2>like here's the Masters field, like going into twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just like you see your name and it's just like, huh,

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<v Speaker 2>that's pretty interesting. But it's like, yeah, I mean it

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<v Speaker 2>was a ton of fun. I feel like talking to

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<v Speaker 2>you and talking to Brett, like everybody around me, I

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<v Speaker 2>have like a really awesome team, which means the world

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<v Speaker 2>who all believe in me, probably more than I believe

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<v Speaker 2>in myself at times. So I feel like for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I finally believed in myself the way I should and

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<v Speaker 2>it kind of reflected as as belief. But I guess

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<v Speaker 2>in the US.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean for everyone listening that doesn't know if

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<v Speaker 1>you make it to the finals of the US Amateur,

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<v Speaker 1>you get into the Masters, and the following year you

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<v Speaker 1>get into the US Open. I want to go back

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<v Speaker 1>to the beginning. Your dad was a golfer. He played

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<v Speaker 1>in the US Junior. Your stepdad, Data Fryes, a golf

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<v Speaker 1>course architect, designed Aaron Hills where Brooks won his first

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<v Speaker 1>major championship. I was there your stepdad, Dana. He took

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<v Speaker 1>you to that tournament. You met Rory McElroy. You were

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<v Speaker 1>playing hockey at that point. How old were you back then?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm bad at math, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was nine in twenty seventeen ten.

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't even going to guess because I would have failed.

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<v Speaker 1>So you're nine years old, you meet Rory McElroy out

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<v Speaker 1>of major championship. What was that like? I mean, he

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<v Speaker 1>obviously you knew who he was, but how did that

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<v Speaker 1>come about? And what was that experience like for you?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so he missed the cut, which is kind of

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<v Speaker 2>funny because somebody still gave me time. And Dana met

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<v Speaker 2>Sean earlier in the week.

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<v Speaker 1>Seawn his agent, Sean Flerty. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And you know the thing, it kind of stuck out.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like Rory is not that tall Orray's not that big,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm kind of like, how do you hit the

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<v Speaker 2>ball so far? And he told me how it's all

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<v Speaker 2>in your legs, And I feel like whenever I met him,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, this would be kind of cool to do it.

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<v Speaker 2>He just did, like playing a major championship. Like I'm

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<v Speaker 2>a little kid, like not really thinking much of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, like I want to quit hockey and

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<v Speaker 2>play golf.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, I mean, not many kids like get that

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to meet, you know, someone from another sport who

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<v Speaker 1>is a you know, I mean Rory at that point,

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<v Speaker 1>is it's incredible that he's still sitting on the same

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<v Speaker 1>amount of majors in twenty four that he was sitting

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<v Speaker 1>on in seventeen. He's been the number one player in

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<v Speaker 1>the world. I mean, you can make an argument that

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<v Speaker 1>when he's on I mean, I think he's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the best players in the world day in and day out.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he'll go down as one of the best

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<v Speaker 1>of this generation. But you made the decision to change,

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<v Speaker 1>and you played a lot of golf up until that point.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, what was your by the time you were

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<v Speaker 1>nine ten years old, when you decided to choose the

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<v Speaker 1>pathway of saying, Okay, I'm going to just play competitive

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<v Speaker 1>junior golf. How much golf had you really played?

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<v Speaker 2>My dad got me starting it, but I feel like

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<v Speaker 2>Dana played probably the biggest role in like really getting

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<v Speaker 2>me into it. So he did a course called Colucive Pines,

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<v Speaker 2>which is right by where I live in Naples, Florida.

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<v Speaker 2>And I did a chipping competition no longer after that

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<v Speaker 2>with Rocko Media eight and I hold a couple chip

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<v Speaker 2>shots in front of him, and you know, it's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like you got like a little I didn't even

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<v Speaker 2>know what my ego was at the time that young,

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<v Speaker 2>when he kind of like boosted me up like oh yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>like you're a really good chipper. And it's like kind

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<v Speaker 2>of after that, like you get told you're good at

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<v Speaker 2>something when you're a little kid, and you're kind of like, oh,

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I start doing this more, and yeah, I just

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<v Speaker 2>started taking it serious. From there.

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<v Speaker 1>I read a story that Tommy Morrison, who's you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Tommy's a stud right playing at the University of Texas.

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<v Speaker 1>He came and played in a tournament. Was it at

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<v Speaker 1>Calusa or Naples? When you were how old Naples National.

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<v Speaker 1>I was the Terra Cotta, right, the Terracotta Amateur, which

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<v Speaker 1>is a which is a big junior golf tournament. A

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of players have won that before. Tommy is you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean he's a larger than what's he like, six

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<v Speaker 1>seven six eight?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I met him when that year as we were

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<v Speaker 2>both fourteen. He was six eight and I was five

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<v Speaker 2>six six eight.

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<v Speaker 1>Is a prech as a fourteen year old. You're six '

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<v Speaker 1>four now, so you don't have to look up to

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<v Speaker 1>him as much. But again, you meet a young, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>player who was getting a lot of buzz at that time,

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<v Speaker 1>and he spends time with you. I think it's it's

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<v Speaker 1>huge for kids, Noah, to have these kind of data

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<v Speaker 1>points in your life. Right, everybody wants to be you know,

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<v Speaker 1>when you're a junior golfer, I think everybody wants to

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<v Speaker 1>be their heroes, right, you want to be Scotty Scheffler,

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<v Speaker 1>Ory McElroy, genre whoever it is. But when you meet

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<v Speaker 1>someone who's kind of a similar age that you're at,

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<v Speaker 1>it's a junior golfer like you are, I think it

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<v Speaker 1>can be a really big boost to help kind of

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<v Speaker 1>plant that seed to where Okay, I could do this

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<v Speaker 1>as well. So you meet him, did you play with him?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you watch him practice? What was that story?

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<v Speaker 2>So I was a standard Bear that year. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was taking scores and I told Dana, I'm like, go

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<v Speaker 2>watch this kid play. Like I know he's fourteen. I

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<v Speaker 2>think he's pretty good. I didn't know how Tolly was actually,

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<v Speaker 2>So then after a round I met him. We got

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<v Speaker 2>a photo and I'm like, I want to go play

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<v Speaker 2>nine holes, like you want to come play with and

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<v Speaker 2>he was hitting the two iron pass my driver. And

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<v Speaker 2>after the round, I go to Dana, I'm like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I got a long way to go if he's fourteen,

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<v Speaker 2>and I'm fourteen, Like so yeah, I mean we actually

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<v Speaker 2>played a practice round together before the USM at Chaska

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<v Speaker 2>Town Course, and the funny thing was was on the

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<v Speaker 2>seventh hole, I went up to him like it's not

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<v Speaker 2>like we're fourteen anymore, and I'm like twenty by him now.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's funny the kid.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's got a bright future. And when you

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<v Speaker 1>see him, you just don't see golfers that big. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think you now, as a sophomore, you are kind

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<v Speaker 1>of the prototype of what we see the modern and

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<v Speaker 1>a junior golfer and modern college golfer six foot four.

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<v Speaker 1>Just to piss everybody off, that's that's not a superstar

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<v Speaker 1>like yourself as an amateur. What's your ball speed? What's

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<v Speaker 1>your clubhead speed? Right now? Who's like not trying to

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<v Speaker 1>go after once? What do you kind of cruise clubheadspeed

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<v Speaker 1>and ball speed at.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd probably say it's like probably somewhere between like twenty

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<v Speaker 2>three and twenty six, and it's probably like eighty four

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<v Speaker 2>to like eighty eight somewhere in there.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So for everybody listening, that's one hundred and twenty

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<v Speaker 1>two to one hundred and twenty three miles per hour

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<v Speaker 1>cluppet speed and kind of mid one eighties ball speed,

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<v Speaker 1>which is on a pore with some of the longest

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<v Speaker 1>hitters in the game. I mean, we'll just keep going

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<v Speaker 1>with this to piss everybody off. How far are you

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<v Speaker 1>here in five iron carry, no wind, flat carry, not

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<v Speaker 1>trying to kill one to twenty five twenty five? Okay, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's great. Everybody's gonna love that seven iron.

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<v Speaker 2>One ninety five two hundred.

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<v Speaker 1>One ninety five, two hundred. You know you can step

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<v Speaker 1>on it and get it to two fifteen. Okay, this

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<v Speaker 1>will be the one that treats everybody out nine iron?

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<v Speaker 1>How far are you here?

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<v Speaker 2>Nine?

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<v Speaker 1>I just stock nine iron, no wind, flat line.

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<v Speaker 2>One hundred and sixty, one hundred and sixty five.

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<v Speaker 1>When I first saw you, I mean, what's it been

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<v Speaker 1>like four years ago? I think four years ago. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean obviously when someone like you as a young kid

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<v Speaker 1>gets brought, you know, by their parents. To me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>lucky enough to work with some really good players that

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<v Speaker 1>have a tremendous amount of speed, and I've got to

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<v Speaker 1>be honest with you. See you hit a golf ball

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<v Speaker 1>and watching you kind of ramp up through that first

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<v Speaker 1>lesson we got looking at the size you were looking

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<v Speaker 1>at kind of the raw speed that you had, it

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<v Speaker 1>reminded me a lot of the first time that I

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<v Speaker 1>saw Brooks. I met Brooks after he graduated from Florida State.

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<v Speaker 1>He was Peter u Line's roommate. They were playing on

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<v Speaker 1>the Challenge Store. I was working with DJ at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was working with Ernie Els he just won

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<v Speaker 1>his fourth major, and I saw Brooks and I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>watching the speed, and I think it was a very

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<v Speaker 1>similar situation and watching you, I mean I went away

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<v Speaker 1>from that first golf lesson even though you were still

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<v Speaker 1>really really young and still really really raw. You have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of the attributes in golf that you can't teach. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit like being a running back or

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<v Speaker 1>a wide receiver, either faster or not right. You can

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<v Speaker 1>either teach that maybe, but either have that. So you

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<v Speaker 1>have all this speed, you have all this power, and

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<v Speaker 1>correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's taken you

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<v Speaker 1>a while to kind of grow into that, to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of understand the speed and the power or you have,

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<v Speaker 1>but also how to use that. Have you noticed, Noah,

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<v Speaker 1>the jump from being a high school junior golfer to

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<v Speaker 1>now going into your second year as a college golfer.

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<v Speaker 1>How have you learned and tried to deal with the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that you have this kind of formula one kind

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<v Speaker 1>of race car, right? I mean you can go as

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<v Speaker 1>fast as you want if we tell you to hit

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<v Speaker 1>it further. I mean, if you really want to jump

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<v Speaker 1>on one with your driver, I mean, how far do

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<v Speaker 1>you feel like you can carry it in the air?

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<v Speaker 1>You really want to step on one?

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<v Speaker 2>I got one last winter time in the simulator was

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<v Speaker 2>called here. I got one three sixty at sea level.

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<v Speaker 1>So the obvious question is you just played your first

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<v Speaker 1>tournament of the year for the University of Iiowa. You

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<v Speaker 1>guys went up to Minnesota. Back to Minnesota where the

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<v Speaker 1>USAMA was not at hazel team, but good vibes up there.

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<v Speaker 1>Took me through the eight that you make on a

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<v Speaker 1>part five with all the damn speed you have. Talk

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<v Speaker 1>me through that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, great great hole to ask about. I really appreciate that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like whenever I hit a cut, now

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<v Speaker 2>that's something we've worked on together, and you know, I

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<v Speaker 2>decided to try and not hit a cut, which was

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<v Speaker 2>a dumb, nineteen year old decision that I decided to make.

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<v Speaker 2>And yeah, that golf ball's gone living in the woods

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<v Speaker 2>somewhere in Minnesota and.

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<v Speaker 1>Going to have a cold winter.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and then I hit another one with my mini

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<v Speaker 2>driver and I had to take an unplayable after that drive,

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<v Speaker 2>and yeah, made Nate. That's how that.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, when you juniors and college players, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>talk about these big numbers you make, there's always this

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<v Speaker 1>story about, you know, I did this and I did that.

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<v Speaker 1>Then it hit into you know, I mean the two iron.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got your back how far you carry that?

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<v Speaker 2>I took that out. I have a five wood now.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so how far you carry the five one comfortable.

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<v Speaker 2>Is probably to sixty five?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. How long was the par five you just made

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<v Speaker 1>Nate on. I mean it wasn't seven hundred yards tixo

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<v Speaker 1>five okay, so you still could have hit five wood

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<v Speaker 1>in the middle of the fairway. Lay up, Yeah, make

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<v Speaker 1>a birdie. The jump from junior golf to college golf.

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<v Speaker 1>What have you noticed is the difference for you as

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<v Speaker 1>a player, right, because there is a big step right

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<v Speaker 1>every developmental stage that you go at as an athlete,

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<v Speaker 1>but specifically as a golfer, there is a jump from

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<v Speaker 1>junior golf from you know, AJGA golf to high level

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<v Speaker 1>junior golf and then the level that you're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>go out now. When you got to Iowa as a freshman,

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<v Speaker 1>the mac McLear story fifth your senior two time Big

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<v Speaker 1>Big ten champ, tell everybody what you decided to tell

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<v Speaker 1>your coach that you wanted to do as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>you got to Iowa as a freshman.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I just wanted them as much as I can

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<v Speaker 2>and beat them as much as I can, And I

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<v Speaker 2>kind of I kind of did that, So that's pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>So you said to your coach, Hey, he's the best

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<v Speaker 1>player on the team, he's kind of a stud. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>a freshman coming in. I want to play him and

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<v Speaker 1>see what I can do. You won, right, Yeah, three

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<v Speaker 1>and two, three and two. What did you notice about

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<v Speaker 1>your game going up against someone who's obviously in the

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<v Speaker 1>college ranks, a fifty year senior, two time Big ten champ.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, he's the stud of the team, right. Every

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<v Speaker 1>college golf team kind of has that guy that is

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<v Speaker 1>the stud. Most of the time they're either you know,

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<v Speaker 1>juniors or seniors. But there are guys that are studs

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<v Speaker 1>as a freshman, as a sophomore, but very rarely. But

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<v Speaker 1>when you got to iowan you kind of I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>let's be honest. You called out Mac and Sid listen,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to see what my game can do against

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<v Speaker 1>the team's best player. Were you surprised at the way

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<v Speaker 1>you played? Were you surprised at the way he played?

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<v Speaker 1>What did you notice about that day?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh? I figured out that he doesn't make as many

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<v Speaker 2>big numbers as I do. I feel like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>everybody who's the best in college golf. What I've realized

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<v Speaker 2>I've learned a lot from my freshman a sophomore, you're

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<v Speaker 2>like freshman year, I'm kind of looking in like wow,

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<v Speaker 2>like everybody's like really good. And you get to your

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<v Speaker 2>sophomore and now I kind of feel like I'm kind

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<v Speaker 2>of one of the bigger dogs, like people are kind

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<v Speaker 2>of looking up to me now. But like as a freshman,

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<v Speaker 2>like you see Mac and it's like you don't make

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<v Speaker 2>a big number, Like he doesn't make a double bogie,

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<v Speaker 2>Like he makes a bogie at worst. And that's something

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<v Speaker 2>like you talk about how I'm like a race car driver, like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>I can make seven birdies around, but I can make

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<v Speaker 2>two triples and a bogie or something.

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<v Speaker 1>You can crash the car, right, you can have the

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<v Speaker 1>fastest lap in the race, be leading the race, and

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<v Speaker 1>then just through. But I think a lot of that

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<v Speaker 1>no is you don't know what you don't know, right,

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<v Speaker 1>And so the learning curve, like you said your freshman year,

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<v Speaker 1>I think saying every tournament, qualifying for every tournament you've

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<v Speaker 1>got how many you're what four or five tournaments in

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<v Speaker 1>the fall, four or five tournaments in the spring, You've

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<v Speaker 1>got to go qualify for those? What's it for everybody

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<v Speaker 1>listening your college freshman, what's the qualifying process like for

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<v Speaker 1>people that don't know, is a Division one college golfer?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeap. So for our first event on a fall, we'll

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<v Speaker 2>do we did five rounds of qualifying, so play five rounds,

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<v Speaker 2>eighteen holes. Top three guys make it and it's two

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<v Speaker 2>coaches picks. So yeah, won the qualifying this year by ten,

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<v Speaker 2>So that was quite nice.

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<v Speaker 1>What you do last year in the first qualifier.

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<v Speaker 2>They shot on a shoot. Last year I came second.

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<v Speaker 2>I shot fourteen hunder and lost by eleven. Yeah to

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<v Speaker 2>mac so that was pretty good.

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<v Speaker 1>Was there a learning curve in playing the golf courses

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<v Speaker 1>your freshman year, because obviously you're going to be playing

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<v Speaker 1>on maybe something You're lucky that you grew up kind

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<v Speaker 1>of in Naples. You grew up on good golf courses,

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<v Speaker 1>but still you're going to be going from that jump

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<v Speaker 1>from high school golf to and junior golf to college golf.

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<v Speaker 1>The golf courses are going to be longer, they're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be more difficult, They're going to tuck the pins.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you feel like your freshman year at the

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<v Speaker 1>University of Iowa that you learned from yourself, that you

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<v Speaker 1>learned from your teammates, but more importantly, what you learn

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<v Speaker 1>from your coaches at Iowa.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I feel like everybody in junior golf,

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<v Speaker 2>and I mean I can attest to it because I

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<v Speaker 2>know how I was. I mean, you think your prime

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<v Speaker 2>Tiger Woods in nineteen ninety nine and you see a pen,

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<v Speaker 2>you fire at the pin and you hope it's really close.

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<v Speaker 2>And you get to college and the pins are three off,

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<v Speaker 2>the corners above ridges, the greens are firm. Every course

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<v Speaker 2>you play in college golf is good at the Division

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<v Speaker 2>one level. Every single golf course you're gonna play is

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be good, and it's gonna they're gonna make it

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<v Speaker 2>as hard as you can. I feel like the thing

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<v Speaker 2>that I've taken in for my coaches, especially from you,

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<v Speaker 2>is like you have to pick and choose your points

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<v Speaker 2>and when to use my speed and when to use

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<v Speaker 2>my talent that I'm lucky enough to have, and I

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<v Speaker 2>work really hard to keep it and get it better

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<v Speaker 2>and better and better to where I want to go.

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<v Speaker 2>And it's like if the pick and choose your spots,

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like you told me one time. We're talking

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<v Speaker 2>about Brooks like asking how many flagsticks and a major

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<v Speaker 2>championship he aims at and I think you said for

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<v Speaker 2>four rounds. It was something like four and four rounds.

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<v Speaker 1>He just doesn't do it that all state. And I

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<v Speaker 1>think you know, certainly, but that's something that no one

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you, right. I mean I can sit here,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how many good players that I've worked with,

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<v Speaker 1>no matter how much information I can give you, it's

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<v Speaker 1>still you as the player, having to go out and

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<v Speaker 1>make those mistakes yourself. Do you feel like you've learned

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<v Speaker 1>from the experiences that you had that freshman year of

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<v Speaker 1>college that you feel like are starting to become kind

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<v Speaker 1>of I don't want to say non negotiables for you,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you have a better understanding of how

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<v Speaker 1>to play the game. But like you said, when you're

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<v Speaker 1>a junior, you can get by I think on being long, right,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean when you were in high school. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>how much further past everybody on your high school team?

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<v Speaker 1>Are you hitting it? One hundred?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's pretty it's a long way.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So you get to Iowa. What's a typical week

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<v Speaker 1>for you at Iowa? Like in season? Right, So obviously

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<v Speaker 1>you're going to class Monday, through Friday, but from a

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<v Speaker 1>from a golf standpoint, because I think it's a good

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<v Speaker 1>insight for a lot of people listening, maybe that are

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<v Speaker 1>thinking about trying to play competitively, maybe their junior or

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<v Speaker 1>they have you know, we've got parents listening. So what's

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<v Speaker 1>a typical week like for you? Talk me through last week?

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<v Speaker 1>You get to Iowa Monday, Talk me through Monday through

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<v Speaker 1>Friday of last week.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, so leading the tournament will lift three days a week,

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<v Speaker 2>concluding another day before we leave, like kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>a primer getting ready. So last week Monday, we don't

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<v Speaker 2>have LYFT, but we have practice structured practice from two

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<v Speaker 2>to five. You can do whatever you want. So I'm

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<v Speaker 2>pretty much out there at a like eleven thirty eleven,

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<v Speaker 2>getting my work in before practice and doing a structure.

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<v Speaker 2>Tuesday we have LYFT six thirty to seven thirty, which

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<v Speaker 2>also happens on Thursday and Friday in the morning in

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<v Speaker 2>the morning, and then you'll have class and then structured

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<v Speaker 2>practice again pretty much every day. Structured practice will be

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<v Speaker 2>at two o'clock, two to five o'clock. Just that's the

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<v Speaker 2>best for us. But I'm always out there early trying

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<v Speaker 2>to get in work before everybody. I'm lucky enough to

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<v Speaker 2>where I don't have class Thursday and Friday. I'd take

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<v Speaker 2>some online classes so I can allow myself to practice

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<v Speaker 2>little more. So I mean Thursday and Friday for me,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm done with the left and I got my

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<v Speaker 2>homework done, I'll be at the golf course for eight hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Just you gotta take advantage of the good weather. I

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<v Speaker 2>got it, so you know.

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<v Speaker 1>I talked to Chris Venturo, who's a member at the Floridian.

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<v Speaker 1>He and Victor Hovelin are both They both just kept

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<v Speaker 1>on playing the Olympics Fornary, but they were part of

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<v Speaker 1>that national championship team with Matt Wolfe at Oklahoma State.

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<v Speaker 1>And when I talked to Chris about what he did

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<v Speaker 1>in college, he said that Wolfie, Bobby and Chris, he

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<v Speaker 1>said they just played way more than they practiced. How

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<v Speaker 1>are you finding that balance between how much you play

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<v Speaker 1>versus how much you're practicing your technique and that kind

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<v Speaker 1>of blending of the two, because that's again, that is

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<v Speaker 1>that is hard to do, right because you think the

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<v Speaker 1>way you're going to get better is just practice, practice, practice, practice.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you finding that playing and seeing what happens on

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<v Speaker 1>the golf course is becoming more of a priority or

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<v Speaker 1>you locked into kind of what you're doing technique wise.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I don't really spend that like, to be completely honest,

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<v Speaker 2>I kind of limit myself, Like I'll give myself like

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<v Speaker 2>a thirty minute time period on the range where it's

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<v Speaker 2>like okay, like I'm gonna do like technique stuff and

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<v Speaker 2>check my stuff to make sure everything's good. But it's

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<v Speaker 2>like I've had this talk with my teammates. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>captain this year, and I tell them it's like, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>it's like cool. You can make a five footer on

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<v Speaker 2>a putting green or a fifteen footer, or you can

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<v Speaker 2>get a draw in a range. I'm a big believer

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<v Speaker 2>in you gotta do it on the golf course too,

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<v Speaker 2>Like can you hit a driver down a twenty yard

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<v Speaker 2>wide fairway? Can you to seven iron from however far

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<v Speaker 2>to this pin? I feel like the only way you're

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<v Speaker 2>gonna learn is by getting a ball in the actual hole,

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<v Speaker 2>not getting in a putting green. Cup. So I play

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<v Speaker 2>every single day that I can.

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<v Speaker 1>With your teammates, do you guys play matches? Are you

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<v Speaker 1>always playing for something or do you guys just kind

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<v Speaker 1>of go out and kind of freewheel it.

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<v Speaker 2>No, So like today, me and two other guys on

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<v Speaker 2>the team went up and played banker. So that was fun.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, So what is I don't even know what banker is.

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<v Speaker 2>So there's three guys. Uh, one guy's banker. It's individual matches.

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<v Speaker 2>So it's me, Ryan and Josh to my teammates. So

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<v Speaker 2>banker hits last. You play like a five dollar match

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<v Speaker 2>versus everybody on that hole, and yes, it's me versus Ryan,

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<v Speaker 2>then Josh rous May and banker. He can press the banker,

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<v Speaker 2>but if the banker presses, you have to press both people. So, yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>you win today, I actually lost. That was kind of embarrassing.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's get to I alluded to. It was a hell

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<v Speaker 1>of a summer for you. Cup, which is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the big kind of amateur golf tournaments. Everybody Brooks has

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<v Speaker 1>played in it. Everybody's played in it. Again, that's a

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<v Speaker 1>trophy that when you look at the names on that

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<v Speaker 1>and you look at the entry list of players that

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<v Speaker 1>have played in I think everybody that's played Division one

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<v Speaker 1>college golf. There are a lot of people playing all

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<v Speaker 1>over the world on various tours. They've all played in

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<v Speaker 1>the Porter Cup, you finished second. Did that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>give you a little bit of boosting confidence coming off

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<v Speaker 1>of a really solid freshman year at Iowa to where

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<v Speaker 1>you went, Okay, I've got some big tournaments to play in,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the USAMBI and one of them. Did you

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<v Speaker 1>feel after finishing second at the Porter Cup that it

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<v Speaker 1>could be a springboard and give you that kind of

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<v Speaker 1>confidence in your game and take it to a big, big,

0:21:08.680 --> 0:21:11.840
<v Speaker 1>the biggest tournament you've ever played in, which is the USAM. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I feel like the thing I learned without myself

0:21:14.600 --> 0:21:16.280
<v Speaker 2>that week is I didn't think a bogie on the

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<v Speaker 2>back nine the whole entire tournament.

0:21:18.200 --> 0:21:18.639
<v Speaker 1>That helps.

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<v Speaker 2>So, I mean I closed really well, sixty seven sixty seven,

0:21:22.080 --> 0:21:24.800
<v Speaker 2>sixty seven sixty nine. I mean, I lost my a shot,

0:21:24.840 --> 0:21:28.240
<v Speaker 2>but you know, it stinks to lose. But I learned

0:21:28.240 --> 0:21:30.040
<v Speaker 2>for myself that I can fire four rounds in our

0:21:30.000 --> 0:21:32.440
<v Speaker 2>own a sixties. And granted didn't close the tournament the

0:21:32.480 --> 0:21:33.960
<v Speaker 2>way I wanted to, but I learned that I can

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<v Speaker 2>put it together in a big tournament. Is actually funny.

0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:40.199
<v Speaker 2>So I wasn't qualified for the USAM before that tournament.

0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:41.080
<v Speaker 1>You had to go qualify.

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<v Speaker 2>I drove down five hours that night to another place

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<v Speaker 2>in New York, play a practice round, and qualify the

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<v Speaker 2>next day, which you shooting the qualifier sixty seven medalists.

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<v Speaker 1>I actually think that that actually helps. Right. You come

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<v Speaker 1>off of a big finish for you, probably the biggest

0:21:56.240 --> 0:21:58.879
<v Speaker 1>finish you've had in a big amateur tournament, and you

0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:02.440
<v Speaker 1>still have to go qualify for the US. And let's

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<v Speaker 1>tell everybody the story about you qualified for the US

0:22:05.000 --> 0:22:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Junior last year, which was the kind of the biggest

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<v Speaker 1>tournament that you played in. Tell everybody what your prep

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<v Speaker 1>was for the US Junior and why you didn't play

0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:16.520
<v Speaker 1>in the US Junior last summer.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeap qualified for the s Junior, which was.

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<v Speaker 1>A huge goal of yours, right, I mean that's.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, qualified for it, qumongous conference booster, like a

0:22:26.240 --> 0:22:28.760
<v Speaker 2>big sy relief. Go to the Southern Junior, come third,

0:22:28.800 --> 0:22:31.400
<v Speaker 2>go to the Western Junior, finished runner up, and then

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<v Speaker 2>four days later I fell off an ATV and broke

0:22:34.280 --> 0:22:34.640
<v Speaker 2>my wrist.

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<v Speaker 1>You thought it would be a good idea after coming

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<v Speaker 1>off two of your best finishes as a junior. You've

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<v Speaker 1>got your biggest junior tournament you've ever played, and you

0:22:43.680 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>thought it'd be good to get on some sort of

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<v Speaker 1>motorcycle out in the middle of the trees and gost

0:22:48.480 --> 0:22:51.720
<v Speaker 1>around and mess shit up and fracture your wrist.

0:22:52.000 --> 0:22:52.440
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>How many How many weeks out were you?

0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:56.399
<v Speaker 2>They told me four? So I was kind of hopeful

0:22:56.400 --> 0:22:59.120
<v Speaker 2>I was gonna be able to play and it took eleven.

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<v Speaker 1>Eleven that injury. What I tell you, I told you no.

0:23:02.960 --> 0:23:06.120
<v Speaker 1>No athlete comes back from an injury too late, right,

0:23:06.560 --> 0:23:09.480
<v Speaker 1>everybody tries to come back too early. Yeah, we're joking

0:23:09.480 --> 0:23:11.560
<v Speaker 1>about it because I know you were devastated by that.

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<v Speaker 1>What in missing out on that US Junior do mentally

0:23:17.160 --> 0:23:19.040
<v Speaker 1>for you? Did you get down on yourself or did

0:23:19.080 --> 0:23:21.359
<v Speaker 1>you use it as on a fuel and say, Okay,

0:23:22.000 --> 0:23:24.680
<v Speaker 1>I had an opportunity here to play in the US Junior.

0:23:25.000 --> 0:23:26.520
<v Speaker 1>Whatever happened happened.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like in the moment, you're kind of like,

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<v Speaker 2>oh God, Like what did you do? Like this is

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<v Speaker 2>the biggest moment your junior career and you're playing super

0:23:34.280 --> 0:23:36.159
<v Speaker 2>good and you messed it up? Like and talking to

0:23:36.200 --> 0:23:38.080
<v Speaker 2>all my friends. One of my best friends from back home,

0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:39.639
<v Speaker 2>he qualified for the one out at Bandon and I

0:23:39.680 --> 0:23:42.119
<v Speaker 2>really wanted to do it. I didn't qualify. So I

0:23:42.119 --> 0:23:44.679
<v Speaker 2>feel like after it happened, like I'm in a like

0:23:44.720 --> 0:23:47.359
<v Speaker 2>a brace and I can't do anything and I have

0:23:47.440 --> 0:23:49.320
<v Speaker 2>to learn how to do everything left handed. It made

0:23:49.320 --> 0:23:52.960
<v Speaker 2>me like more hungry and put more of an emphasis

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<v Speaker 2>on qualifying for the us AM. So I feel like

0:23:57.040 --> 0:23:59.280
<v Speaker 2>it was almost a blessing in disguise because I really

0:23:59.320 --> 0:24:02.439
<v Speaker 2>loved golf. But I feel like after that happened, I

0:24:02.440 --> 0:24:04.760
<v Speaker 2>feel like it made me want it more and realize

0:24:04.760 --> 0:24:06.600
<v Speaker 2>what I can do with qualify.

0:24:06.720 --> 0:24:10.720
<v Speaker 1>Sixty seven, the US Amateur Hazel Team US won a

0:24:10.800 --> 0:24:14.760
<v Speaker 1>Ryder Cup there. I mean Tiger Waite Yang, I mean

0:24:14.800 --> 0:24:16.440
<v Speaker 1>they went down the stretch. I mean. It is a

0:24:16.480 --> 0:24:19.959
<v Speaker 1>big time golf course. It has a major championship pedigree.

0:24:20.320 --> 0:24:22.640
<v Speaker 1>Three hundred and twelve players. Did you know that three

0:24:22.720 --> 0:24:27.639
<v Speaker 1>hundred and twelve players start? Yeah, there's two rounds in qualifying.

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<v Speaker 1>You got off to a fantastic start in the qualifier

0:24:30.400 --> 0:24:33.200
<v Speaker 1>through a little opening round seventy seven at them in

0:24:33.240 --> 0:24:35.960
<v Speaker 1>the qualifier, and there's two courses. You shot seventy seven

0:24:36.040 --> 0:24:38.600
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Course, yep. And then there's always two

0:24:38.600 --> 0:24:42.000
<v Speaker 1>courses for the USAM there's one they do one round

0:24:42.000 --> 0:24:43.679
<v Speaker 1>on the Big Course. And then you do one on

0:24:43.800 --> 0:24:46.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of a satellite course. So you know, going to

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<v Speaker 1>the second qualifying round, you basically got to shoot zero. Yeah,

0:24:50.880 --> 0:24:53.359
<v Speaker 1>you know, the only way you're going to have a

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:56.040
<v Speaker 1>chance to qualify for the USAM is to shoot something

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<v Speaker 1>in the sixties. What was your goal? You figured you'd

0:24:59.720 --> 0:25:01.600
<v Speaker 1>probably you need to go out shoot sixty six.

0:25:02.200 --> 0:25:05.040
<v Speaker 2>No, I knew I needed sixty four or sixty three.

0:25:04.840 --> 0:25:07.520
<v Speaker 1>So you knew you needed sixty four. Yeah.

0:25:07.560 --> 0:25:09.440
<v Speaker 2>It was great too, because I haven't made a birdie

0:25:09.440 --> 0:25:11.159
<v Speaker 2>in eighteen holes, and I need to make birdies, so

0:25:11.200 --> 0:25:12.960
<v Speaker 2>that was a little helpful. That was helpful.

0:25:13.320 --> 0:25:15.320
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, how many birdies did you make in the

0:25:15.320 --> 0:25:19.520
<v Speaker 1>second round? Six six? Yeah, big confidence booster I think

0:25:19.560 --> 0:25:20.920
<v Speaker 1>for you to get through that, because I think you

0:25:20.920 --> 0:25:26.600
<v Speaker 1>would have been just destroyed to get to USAM after everything. Yeah,

0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:30.000
<v Speaker 1>you know, after qualifying, after coming off the Porter Cup.

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<v Speaker 2>That was probably the best round of golf I have

0:25:32.440 --> 0:25:37.880
<v Speaker 2>played in a circumstantial condition. Like I opened the around

0:25:38.200 --> 0:25:43.239
<v Speaker 2>thirty on the front nine, just hot, just hot, and

0:25:43.320 --> 0:25:45.040
<v Speaker 2>I go in, I get to the front nine, I'm like,

0:25:45.080 --> 0:25:48.880
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna shoot fifty nine and I make I think

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<v Speaker 2>part of the first five holes in a row in

0:25:50.520 --> 0:25:53.399
<v Speaker 2>the back nine, and this is actually really funny. So

0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 2>I asked my caddy, like, pulled the leaderboard, like where

0:25:56.760 --> 0:25:59.520
<v Speaker 2>are we standing? He checked in on the back nine

0:25:59.520 --> 0:26:01.600
<v Speaker 2>which I started, which was my front nine, and it

0:26:01.680 --> 0:26:04.640
<v Speaker 2>didn't update, so it showed me two back of where

0:26:04.640 --> 0:26:06.800
<v Speaker 2>I needed to be going in the sixth hole, and

0:26:06.840 --> 0:26:08.760
<v Speaker 2>I chipped in from across the green on a par

0:26:08.920 --> 0:26:11.560
<v Speaker 2>three and I hit it to eight feet on my

0:26:11.680 --> 0:26:13.920
<v Speaker 2>sixteenth hole and missed it. Hit it to five feet

0:26:14.000 --> 0:26:16.240
<v Speaker 2>on my seventeenth hole and missed it in three, putted

0:26:16.280 --> 0:26:19.560
<v Speaker 2>apar five, which is my last hole on nine, and

0:26:19.600 --> 0:26:21.959
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, oh my god, like I just choked. I

0:26:22.040 --> 0:26:22.600
<v Speaker 2>just choked.

0:26:22.800 --> 0:26:26.120
<v Speaker 1>And you're knocking the flag down with the last three

0:26:26.119 --> 0:26:27.919
<v Speaker 1>holes and you're getting uping out of it. No.

0:26:28.320 --> 0:26:31.479
<v Speaker 2>And then I update my phone and my my mom's

0:26:31.560 --> 0:26:34.400
<v Speaker 2>going nuts and I look at my phone, like what's

0:26:34.440 --> 0:26:36.360
<v Speaker 2>going on? Like I missed it by one. I look

0:26:36.359 --> 0:26:38.040
<v Speaker 2>at my phone. It shows him in forty first only

0:26:38.119 --> 0:26:40.119
<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, like I did it, Like holy crap.

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<v Speaker 1>So now you get to the round of sixty four,

0:26:42.359 --> 0:26:45.040
<v Speaker 1>so it's match play. You win your first match and

0:26:45.119 --> 0:26:46.800
<v Speaker 1>not to play four and two go to the round

0:26:46.840 --> 0:26:49.960
<v Speaker 1>to thirty two, two and one, get to the quarters.

0:26:50.440 --> 0:26:53.840
<v Speaker 1>Are the round of sixteen four and two quarters, three

0:26:53.920 --> 0:26:57.080
<v Speaker 1>and two. Let's go to the semifinals. So you get

0:26:57.119 --> 0:27:01.320
<v Speaker 1>paired up against Jackson Buchanan. He's stud He's at the

0:27:01.400 --> 0:27:03.760
<v Speaker 1>University of Illinois, which is in the Big ten, so

0:27:03.800 --> 0:27:06.600
<v Speaker 1>he's a rival. He beat Preston Summer Hayes won the

0:27:06.680 --> 0:27:09.399
<v Speaker 1>US Junior I mean, that kid's stud. He's at Arizona State.

0:27:09.920 --> 0:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>He beats the number one ranked amateur in the world,

0:27:13.080 --> 0:27:16.639
<v Speaker 1>Luke Clanton, who's basically kicking the shit out of people

0:27:16.680 --> 0:27:22.040
<v Speaker 1>on the PGA Tour, and you beat him two up.

0:27:23.200 --> 0:27:25.440
<v Speaker 1>Talk us through that match, I mean at that point

0:27:25.720 --> 0:27:29.399
<v Speaker 1>was your confidence through the roof? Where you trying to

0:27:29.440 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>stay in the moment because obviously you come in with

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.080
<v Speaker 1>nobody even picking you, right, They're picking Luke Clanton to

0:27:36.119 --> 0:27:38.840
<v Speaker 1>win missing right. He's making cut some PGA Tour events.

0:27:38.840 --> 0:27:42.000
<v Speaker 1>He's in second to last group of PJ Tour events.

0:27:42.000 --> 0:27:45.120
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you're not one of the favorites, right, You're

0:27:45.160 --> 0:27:47.959
<v Speaker 1>beating some of the favorites to get to the final.

0:27:48.359 --> 0:27:51.840
<v Speaker 1>How did you ride that wave of kind of good

0:27:51.920 --> 0:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>play and kind of get out of your own way

0:27:54.240 --> 0:27:57.359
<v Speaker 1>because sometimes you know I've told you this in the past.

0:27:57.400 --> 0:27:59.879
<v Speaker 1>I think you always have to be ready for the wave,

0:28:00.880 --> 0:28:04.760
<v Speaker 1>because the wave will come right. Things will come in waves,

0:28:04.800 --> 0:28:07.439
<v Speaker 1>and when you get the right wave, you gotta have

0:28:07.480 --> 0:28:11.800
<v Speaker 1>the guts to get up and ride it. You qualify,

0:28:11.840 --> 0:28:14.600
<v Speaker 1>you shoot a really low round. Did you just feel

0:28:14.640 --> 0:28:17.320
<v Speaker 1>like from then, Okay, I got nothing to lose. Now,

0:28:17.400 --> 0:28:19.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna go see how good I can be

0:28:19.880 --> 0:28:21.240
<v Speaker 1>here and see how far I can get.

0:28:21.440 --> 0:28:23.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I feel like once I made match play, I

0:28:23.560 --> 0:28:26.119
<v Speaker 2>feel like it just plays into my hands more. I

0:28:26.119 --> 0:28:28.800
<v Speaker 2>mean you say, I'm like an F one car, I'm fast.

0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.280
<v Speaker 2>I make a ton of birdies. You can kind of

0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:32.840
<v Speaker 2>forget about the double you make. And I mean I

0:28:32.880 --> 0:28:35.000
<v Speaker 2>played awesome golf. I mean, you can win a match

0:28:35.040 --> 0:28:36.240
<v Speaker 2>a match play. So it's like I got through the

0:28:36.320 --> 0:28:38.680
<v Speaker 2>round of sixty four and it's kind of like, oh, like, yeah,

0:28:38.680 --> 0:28:41.320
<v Speaker 2>I want to match thirty two one again, which is

0:28:41.320 --> 0:28:43.800
<v Speaker 2>actually a hard match that's a great fight, and round

0:28:43.840 --> 0:28:46.040
<v Speaker 2>of sixteen. I feel like in my quarterfinal match, I

0:28:46.080 --> 0:28:48.320
<v Speaker 2>showed like a lot of guts and like a lot

0:28:48.320 --> 0:28:49.640
<v Speaker 2>of like what you're saying, like ride the wave. I

0:28:49.640 --> 0:28:51.800
<v Speaker 2>think I was eight under through twelve in my quarter

0:28:51.840 --> 0:28:54.600
<v Speaker 2>final match or something like that, and I got against Jackson.

0:28:54.680 --> 0:28:56.400
<v Speaker 2>You like, look at who's being beat press and you

0:28:56.440 --> 0:28:58.080
<v Speaker 2>beat Luke that week, I'm like, okay, like you gotta

0:28:58.080 --> 0:28:59.880
<v Speaker 2>get ready for like a dog fight, like who's gonna

0:28:59.880 --> 0:29:02.040
<v Speaker 2>wan on it more? And you know, I feel like

0:29:02.560 --> 0:29:04.360
<v Speaker 2>going into the round, he kind of handed me a

0:29:04.440 --> 0:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>couple shots early and I got up late. But you know,

0:29:08.880 --> 0:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>I just I feel like I wanted it more than

0:29:10.640 --> 0:29:12.920
<v Speaker 2>everybody else there that league. Once I finally got what

0:29:13.000 --> 0:29:15.840
<v Speaker 2>it tastes, the success felt like and talked to my caddy.

0:29:15.920 --> 0:29:17.640
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I think I hit one of the most

0:29:17.680 --> 0:29:19.760
<v Speaker 2>clutch shots in my life on the eighteenth hole in

0:29:19.800 --> 0:29:21.600
<v Speaker 2>that match, like to step up.

0:29:21.960 --> 0:29:24.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I mean that's the hero shot. The clutch shot

0:29:25.000 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>that you hit was to stand up on the eighteenth

0:29:27.320 --> 0:29:30.640
<v Speaker 1>pole at Hazel Team, where if you missed that fair

0:29:30.680 --> 0:29:32.680
<v Speaker 1>away you hit it in either of the bunkers, you're

0:29:32.680 --> 0:29:36.320
<v Speaker 1>probably not making berdie. You know, I was messaging with

0:29:36.360 --> 0:29:38.680
<v Speaker 1>your sports psychologist, doctor Brett mckable I've had on the

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:41.440
<v Speaker 1>podcast before. We were messaging when you were on the

0:29:41.440 --> 0:29:43.960
<v Speaker 1>eighteenth going to the att and I was messaging some

0:29:44.000 --> 0:29:46.200
<v Speaker 1>other people that were watching, and I was like, there

0:29:46.200 --> 0:29:48.560
<v Speaker 1>are times in every round of golf, but in every

0:29:48.600 --> 0:29:51.480
<v Speaker 1>tournament to where there is no other option other than

0:29:51.560 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>you just have to stand up and hit a great shot.

0:29:54.600 --> 0:29:57.600
<v Speaker 1>It's a little bit like playing football, basketball, whatever other sports.

0:29:57.640 --> 0:29:59.680
<v Speaker 1>Sometimes you just have to stand up and make a play.

0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.280
<v Speaker 1>So what were your nerves going like? Because I thought,

0:30:02.760 --> 0:30:04.440
<v Speaker 1>you know, you guys had a really good fight. Ear

0:30:04.560 --> 0:30:07.280
<v Speaker 1>Jackson in that semifinal match. You could have closed it

0:30:07.280 --> 0:30:10.680
<v Speaker 1>out on seventeen. He pulled it on seventeen, pinned was

0:30:10.720 --> 0:30:14.640
<v Speaker 1>back left almost wet in the water. Another big part

0:30:14.680 --> 0:30:17.800
<v Speaker 1>of that match, that semifinal match, was it on fifteen

0:30:17.880 --> 0:30:18.400
<v Speaker 1>to where.

0:30:18.480 --> 0:30:20.280
<v Speaker 2>Oh I was literally going to talk about that.

0:30:20.440 --> 0:30:23.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so yeah, talk us through the fifteenth hole part five?

0:30:23.120 --> 0:30:28.280
<v Speaker 2>Right, Yeah, So I think he hits first and he

0:30:28.440 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 2>just like quick sniped it off the tee, but he

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:33.239
<v Speaker 2>got firing like left's find another hole. And you know

0:30:33.320 --> 0:30:35.480
<v Speaker 2>that's a hard t ball for me. When does in

0:30:35.560 --> 0:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>and off the left and there's obi right, I'm like,

0:30:37.920 --> 0:30:42.120
<v Speaker 2>oh god, so I hit the fairway and I'm like okay,

0:30:42.120 --> 0:30:45.440
<v Speaker 2>like he's in trouble. He laid it up in the rough.

0:30:45.560 --> 0:30:47.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure, maybe it was in the fair. I

0:30:47.640 --> 0:30:50.000
<v Speaker 2>can't remember. I had three hundred yards. I'm like, if

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:51.680
<v Speaker 2>I had a good Mini driver, like, it's gonna get

0:30:51.720 --> 0:30:53.840
<v Speaker 2>up there and I can put this then away, chun

0:30:53.920 --> 0:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>cook it in the left rough and yeah. Then he

0:30:57.080 --> 0:30:59.320
<v Speaker 2>hits a ledge up there to like twenty feet and

0:30:59.360 --> 0:31:01.760
<v Speaker 2>he's probably thinking, and he's fine, I have the worst

0:31:01.760 --> 0:31:03.760
<v Speaker 2>lie I've ever seen in my life from like seventy

0:31:03.760 --> 0:31:07.160
<v Speaker 2>five yards and I hit this like high, like soft,

0:31:07.440 --> 0:31:08.760
<v Speaker 2>like saw it come on. I'm like, oh my god,

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.120
<v Speaker 2>like it's so good. It lands like perfectly in the

0:31:11.120 --> 0:31:13.640
<v Speaker 2>slope and I hit it inside of him, and then

0:31:13.720 --> 0:31:14.920
<v Speaker 2>he stepped up there and made it.

0:31:15.160 --> 0:31:17.680
<v Speaker 1>You've hit it to like fifteen feet right, yeah, which

0:31:17.960 --> 0:31:19.840
<v Speaker 1>based off of the lie you had when you hit

0:31:19.880 --> 0:31:22.840
<v Speaker 1>that shot, I'm like, wow, that is a hell of

0:31:22.880 --> 0:31:26.840
<v Speaker 1>a shot, right. And in match play, there's always parts

0:31:26.880 --> 0:31:29.960
<v Speaker 1>in the match like this, right, there are these kind

0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:34.360
<v Speaker 1>of opportunities where it looks like your gown looks like

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.320
<v Speaker 1>you don't have the advantage. And then so he hoops

0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.680
<v Speaker 1>it from twenty feet right for birdie.

0:31:39.800 --> 0:31:41.960
<v Speaker 2>So he hoops it and I'm only one up at

0:31:42.000 --> 0:31:43.760
<v Speaker 2>the time, so I'm like thinking to myself. This is

0:31:43.760 --> 0:31:45.840
<v Speaker 2>when it like started like really running through my head,

0:31:46.520 --> 0:31:49.080
<v Speaker 2>like okay, like shit, like it's gonna be like all square,

0:31:49.160 --> 0:31:51.720
<v Speaker 2>like going to sixteen and I like look at this

0:31:51.800 --> 0:31:54.200
<v Speaker 2>putt and I'm like I had like a weird like

0:31:54.280 --> 0:31:56.280
<v Speaker 2>sudden like calmness like over I'm like, oh, it's gonna

0:31:56.280 --> 0:31:58.040
<v Speaker 2>go in. And I get up and it's like like

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.760
<v Speaker 2>seven of the like fifteen feet there. I'm like, oh,

0:32:00.800 --> 0:32:02.280
<v Speaker 2>I made it, and like as soon as it went

0:32:02.280 --> 0:32:03.640
<v Speaker 2>over the edge, I like gave it like a big

0:32:03.680 --> 0:32:05.880
<v Speaker 2>fist pump and I like kind of like, yeah, they

0:32:05.960 --> 0:32:08.480
<v Speaker 2>hit it in the water. On sixteen, I was two

0:32:08.560 --> 0:32:10.320
<v Speaker 2>up with two to play. That was the most nervous

0:32:10.360 --> 0:32:12.200
<v Speaker 2>I've ever been. Is actually on seven, I wasn't nervous.

0:32:12.240 --> 0:32:13.360
<v Speaker 2>On eighteen it was really weird.

0:32:13.840 --> 0:32:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I mean seventeen, you know, there's water left, and for

0:32:16.840 --> 0:32:20.520
<v Speaker 1>people listening, the seventeen Hazel team is where Rory and

0:32:20.640 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 1>Patrick Reed and the ryder cop. Rory makes this massive

0:32:24.920 --> 0:32:27.400
<v Speaker 1>long pot at the par three there's more huge grand

0:32:27.440 --> 0:32:29.520
<v Speaker 1>stands there and does the kind of I can't hear

0:32:29.600 --> 0:32:31.600
<v Speaker 1>you thing, I can't hear you, and then pet Reed

0:32:31.720 --> 0:32:34.400
<v Speaker 1>kind of makes one from twenty feet right on top

0:32:34.440 --> 0:32:36.920
<v Speaker 1>of him and does the finger and the whole thing.

0:32:37.600 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>How did you deal with the pressure on seventeen? Knowing

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.880
<v Speaker 1>where that pin was, which was back left when it

0:32:42.920 --> 0:32:44.160
<v Speaker 1>was in the air, do you think you hit it

0:32:44.240 --> 0:32:44.640
<v Speaker 1>in the water.

0:32:45.000 --> 0:32:46.240
<v Speaker 2>I didn't think I hit it in the water. I

0:32:46.240 --> 0:32:47.680
<v Speaker 2>thought maybe there's a chance I was going to catch

0:32:47.760 --> 0:32:50.960
<v Speaker 2>the left edge. I was just happy I made contact

0:32:51.000 --> 0:32:53.280
<v Speaker 2>with the golf ball. To be completely honest, I mean

0:32:53.280 --> 0:32:55.040
<v Speaker 2>I am legit like on the T box, like I've

0:32:55.080 --> 0:32:56.880
<v Speaker 2>never thought about it in my life. It is the

0:32:56.880 --> 0:32:59.680
<v Speaker 2>first time, like the Masters, like cross like the top

0:32:59.720 --> 0:33:02.240
<v Speaker 2>of my head, and I think I like I wasn't

0:33:02.280 --> 0:33:04.800
<v Speaker 2>ready to go, Like my hands are like shaking, like

0:33:04.840 --> 0:33:07.120
<v Speaker 2>I'm drinking like a bottle of gatorade. I'm like talking

0:33:07.160 --> 0:33:09.360
<v Speaker 2>to my caddy. I'm like, dude, like I can't swing

0:33:09.440 --> 0:33:12.520
<v Speaker 2>right now. And I do it and it stayed up

0:33:12.720 --> 0:33:14.480
<v Speaker 2>and he had a dart like what I was thinking.

0:33:14.560 --> 0:33:16.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, okay, like he's not getting at a bad shot,

0:33:17.200 --> 0:33:19.480
<v Speaker 2>and you know I flubbed my chip, didn't chip it in.

0:33:19.560 --> 0:33:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I'm like okay, like I'm gonna make four. Like he's

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.440
<v Speaker 2>got like a twelve foot or dead down the hill.

0:33:23.840 --> 0:33:25.040
<v Speaker 2>I'm not going to give it to him. He can

0:33:25.080 --> 0:33:28.520
<v Speaker 2>still hit it by he made it. I'm like, okay,

0:33:28.880 --> 0:33:31.560
<v Speaker 2>like great, like he just made burry Like he feels good.

0:33:31.760 --> 0:33:33.560
<v Speaker 1>So how far it's the eighteen pole?

0:33:33.880 --> 0:33:36.560
<v Speaker 2>I think it's is it for eighty or is it

0:33:36.560 --> 0:33:38.560
<v Speaker 2>it's four seventy or four eighty something like.

0:33:38.520 --> 0:33:41.520
<v Speaker 1>That, But it's the shot. It's uphill, yeah, all the

0:33:41.520 --> 0:33:42.880
<v Speaker 1>way up home. Mean you can't even I mean you're

0:33:42.920 --> 0:33:44.720
<v Speaker 1>standing on the tea box there. You can't even. I'm

0:33:44.720 --> 0:33:45.760
<v Speaker 1>close to seeing the green.

0:33:46.560 --> 0:33:49.400
<v Speaker 2>You can see like where everybody's standing, but you can

0:33:49.480 --> 0:33:51.760
<v Speaker 2>just see the top of the landing area. That's about it.

0:33:51.960 --> 0:33:53.880
<v Speaker 1>So what's that mental self too? Because it's actually a

0:33:53.880 --> 0:33:56.720
<v Speaker 1>pretty good walk from seventeen all the way over to

0:33:56.720 --> 0:33:58.959
<v Speaker 1>the eighteenth pole. I mean it's it's not close. I mean,

0:33:59.160 --> 0:34:00.920
<v Speaker 1>I mean you've got time to think. It's not like

0:34:00.920 --> 0:34:04.000
<v Speaker 1>the t boxes right off the seventeenth grade. What were

0:34:04.000 --> 0:34:06.320
<v Speaker 1>you saying to yourself? What'd your caddies say to you?

0:34:06.760 --> 0:34:09.160
<v Speaker 1>And what was the thought process standing up there?

0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:10.680
<v Speaker 2>I feel like he gave me a little bit of

0:34:10.680 --> 0:34:12.720
<v Speaker 2>space once I got off the hole. He's like, okay,

0:34:12.719 --> 0:34:15.719
<v Speaker 2>like let him calm down. He was actually the guy

0:34:15.760 --> 0:34:17.200
<v Speaker 2>that caddy for me in the Porter Cup, so I

0:34:17.239 --> 0:34:19.920
<v Speaker 2>brought him with me to Minnesota and he's kind of

0:34:19.920 --> 0:34:21.399
<v Speaker 2>had this saying with me, it's like it's a one

0:34:21.400 --> 0:34:23.640
<v Speaker 2>hole match, one whole match, Like forget about it, dude,

0:34:23.640 --> 0:34:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Like it doesn't matter, like it's in the past. So

0:34:26.160 --> 0:34:28.560
<v Speaker 2>got up to the eighteenth t you know, kind of

0:34:28.760 --> 0:34:30.680
<v Speaker 2>was just like it's time to just hit a shot.

0:34:30.760 --> 0:34:32.680
<v Speaker 2>Like how He's like, how bad do you like really

0:34:32.760 --> 0:34:34.359
<v Speaker 2>want it? Like do you want it bad?

0:34:34.520 --> 0:34:34.560
<v Speaker 1>No?

0:34:34.800 --> 0:34:37.080
<v Speaker 2>And I'm like, yeah, I really really want it. And

0:34:37.719 --> 0:34:41.000
<v Speaker 2>Jackson hit first, which I feel like is like you're

0:34:41.040 --> 0:34:43.279
<v Speaker 2>gonna know that there's pressure. But he hit a bat

0:34:43.280 --> 0:34:45.200
<v Speaker 2>He didn't hit his best drive in the left trap,

0:34:45.880 --> 0:34:49.920
<v Speaker 2>and I got up there and for me, I loven't

0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.560
<v Speaker 2>and too off the right wind and it was perfectly

0:34:52.719 --> 0:34:54.799
<v Speaker 2>you get hold it up. Yeah, I'm just like, get

0:34:54.840 --> 0:34:56.560
<v Speaker 2>it airborne with a cut and it's perfect.

0:34:56.680 --> 0:34:57.480
<v Speaker 1>What was the yardage?

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.080
<v Speaker 2>I had one hundred and eighty yards in from my

0:35:00.239 --> 0:35:02.440
<v Speaker 2>second shot and then hit a chip seven after he

0:35:02.520 --> 0:35:04.799
<v Speaker 2>hit the lip of the bunker actually on a second.

0:35:04.520 --> 0:35:05.960
<v Speaker 1>Shot, which made it easier.

0:35:06.120 --> 0:35:07.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'm like, okay, like just hit it on the

0:35:07.960 --> 0:35:10.480
<v Speaker 2>Green please, and then yeah, hit it up there like

0:35:10.480 --> 0:35:13.360
<v Speaker 2>four feet and I'm like, oh, yeah, like you've probably

0:35:13.360 --> 0:35:15.480
<v Speaker 2>seen I like pimp Step that I knew what I did, like.

0:35:15.440 --> 0:35:18.080
<v Speaker 1>I did it, Like, oh, that's so good, and yeah,

0:35:18.320 --> 0:35:20.240
<v Speaker 1>is that kind of the first time that you really

0:35:20.320 --> 0:35:23.720
<v Speaker 1>kind of felt like a player? Yeah, like the people

0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:25.759
<v Speaker 1>you watch on television, right, I mean you've spent so

0:35:25.840 --> 0:35:29.000
<v Speaker 1>much time as everybody does watching players on TV. You

0:35:29.040 --> 0:35:31.160
<v Speaker 1>watch all these guys down the stretch hit all these

0:35:31.200 --> 0:35:35.000
<v Speaker 1>great shots. You know Rory, you know, Scottie Scheffler, maximum,

0:35:35.120 --> 0:35:37.799
<v Speaker 1>all these superstars that you watch that play all these

0:35:37.800 --> 0:35:41.040
<v Speaker 1>big tournaments and stuff. Was that really kind of the

0:35:41.080 --> 0:35:46.720
<v Speaker 1>first moment where you're like, dude, wow, I just did that. Yeah.

0:35:46.840 --> 0:35:49.400
<v Speaker 2>I feel like the first one I did was in

0:35:49.440 --> 0:35:52.200
<v Speaker 2>the quarterfinal match, the flopshot a hole. It was just stupid.

0:35:52.280 --> 0:35:53.239
<v Speaker 1>Oh that was a joke.

0:35:53.680 --> 0:35:56.680
<v Speaker 2>That was a joke. But yeah, I mean I look

0:35:56.760 --> 0:35:58.680
<v Speaker 2>back at it because I'm like on like the reels

0:35:58.760 --> 0:36:00.799
<v Speaker 2>or whatever with the USGN and Instagram, and I like,

0:36:00.840 --> 0:36:04.000
<v Speaker 2>I watch it back, I'm kind of like, damn, dude,

0:36:04.000 --> 0:36:06.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, you were like buck. Then then they're like

0:36:06.239 --> 0:36:08.320
<v Speaker 2>that was Yeah, it was kind of crazy.

0:36:08.520 --> 0:36:10.680
<v Speaker 1>So now, obviously, you know when you get to the

0:36:10.680 --> 0:36:12.600
<v Speaker 1>final of the US m you know you've got a

0:36:12.640 --> 0:36:15.520
<v Speaker 1>Birth of the Masters. You're going to the US Open,

0:36:15.760 --> 0:36:18.600
<v Speaker 1>which will be at Oakmont next year, which is an iconic, iconic,

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.360
<v Speaker 1>one of the hardest. Dude, if you're a played Oakmont, Yeah,

0:36:21.440 --> 0:36:23.160
<v Speaker 1>why do you play that in the US Open? Because

0:36:23.200 --> 0:36:25.839
<v Speaker 1>as hard as you think that golf course is, the

0:36:25.880 --> 0:36:29.520
<v Speaker 1>time you played it, I mean you're talking like pie

0:36:29.640 --> 0:36:34.560
<v Speaker 1>are squared harder than what you've got Now, I sent

0:36:34.600 --> 0:36:37.279
<v Speaker 1>you a message and said, the job isn't done. Still

0:36:37.280 --> 0:36:39.440
<v Speaker 1>gonna go win the tournament because only buy a scare

0:36:40.040 --> 0:36:43.680
<v Speaker 1>that kid's baller the kid's ball Yeah, yeah, great. I

0:36:43.719 --> 0:36:45.600
<v Speaker 1>was in Greenbrier and I was talking to John ram

0:36:45.600 --> 0:36:48.320
<v Speaker 1>about him, obviously because that would being from from Spain.

0:36:48.760 --> 0:36:51.319
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to Sergio, he works, Sergio's dad helps

0:36:51.400 --> 0:36:54.600
<v Speaker 1>him as well. They were like, I mean, John Robinson, dude,

0:36:54.640 --> 0:36:57.359
<v Speaker 1>he beats me. I mean, he's he's going he hits

0:36:57.360 --> 0:36:59.360
<v Speaker 1>it miles. You're you're not used to really playing with

0:36:59.440 --> 0:37:02.680
<v Speaker 1>people that he as far as you do, or hit

0:37:02.719 --> 0:37:06.160
<v Speaker 1>it further than you, and that kid can smoke it

0:37:06.239 --> 0:37:09.560
<v Speaker 1>off the tea. So what was the night before the

0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:14.239
<v Speaker 1>USAM Like, I mean, how did you prepare? What were

0:37:14.239 --> 0:37:16.240
<v Speaker 1>you thinking? Did you get a lot of sleep?

0:37:17.280 --> 0:37:19.760
<v Speaker 2>I slipped recently. I turned my phone on do not disturb.

0:37:19.800 --> 0:37:23.120
<v Speaker 2>It was way too many text messages. I mean, me

0:37:23.160 --> 0:37:26.359
<v Speaker 2>and Mike Caddie played college football like we've been doing

0:37:26.400 --> 0:37:28.120
<v Speaker 2>every night. So just kind of like you treat it

0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:29.600
<v Speaker 2>like a little bit like a normal night, like you

0:37:29.680 --> 0:37:31.600
<v Speaker 2>kind of just like sit back and have fun. And

0:37:31.640 --> 0:37:33.480
<v Speaker 2>we knew the job wasn't done, Like we never even

0:37:33.520 --> 0:37:35.360
<v Speaker 2>talked about it really like what it would be like

0:37:35.440 --> 0:37:38.400
<v Speaker 2>to like host that trophy or whatever. And you know,

0:37:38.400 --> 0:37:40.440
<v Speaker 2>I got there in the morning, and you know, the

0:37:40.480 --> 0:37:42.480
<v Speaker 2>morning eighteen was a struggle for me. I mean I

0:37:42.480 --> 0:37:44.680
<v Speaker 2>didn't hit it good at all. I had a pounding

0:37:44.680 --> 0:37:47.040
<v Speaker 2>headache the whole entire round. Probably it was adrenaline. I

0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:50.240
<v Speaker 2>mean it was the first time in a tournament, even

0:37:50.239 --> 0:37:52.520
<v Speaker 2>in these big amateur tournaments, Like you get nervous in

0:37:52.560 --> 0:37:54.080
<v Speaker 2>a final round with a chance to win. But like

0:37:54.560 --> 0:37:57.160
<v Speaker 2>you see the trophy on the first tee. You have

0:37:57.520 --> 0:38:00.680
<v Speaker 2>Larry Fitzgerald who's standing right next to the first team,

0:38:00.680 --> 0:38:02.080
<v Speaker 2>who's there to just watch.

0:38:01.800 --> 0:38:03.040
<v Speaker 1>You NFL legend.

0:38:03.239 --> 0:38:05.560
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's just like it kind of like really

0:38:05.640 --> 0:38:07.600
<v Speaker 2>hits you. It's like, oh my God, Like you know,

0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.799
<v Speaker 2>like everything leading up to it means so much, but

0:38:09.840 --> 0:38:11.759
<v Speaker 2>it's like, now you have thirty six holes to fight

0:38:11.840 --> 0:38:13.720
<v Speaker 2>for your life and voice one of the biggest amateur

0:38:13.760 --> 0:38:17.400
<v Speaker 2>trophies in the world. And you know, I'm very proud

0:38:17.400 --> 0:38:20.040
<v Speaker 2>of myself for the way that I thought.

0:38:19.920 --> 0:38:22.160
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're three so for people don't know, I mean

0:38:22.239 --> 0:38:26.000
<v Speaker 1>you were three down through four holes. Yeah, you're four

0:38:26.080 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>down after the eighteen holes. Yeah, there were big crowds

0:38:31.040 --> 0:38:34.319
<v Speaker 1>out there, obviously the Iowa connection being in the Midwest,

0:38:35.040 --> 0:38:36.880
<v Speaker 1>were those some of the biggest crowds and some of

0:38:36.920 --> 0:38:39.440
<v Speaker 1>the biggest roars you've ever played in front of.

0:38:39.840 --> 0:38:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think ninety nine percent of the crowd wanted

0:38:42.600 --> 0:38:45.040
<v Speaker 2>me to win, so yeah.

0:38:44.600 --> 0:38:47.399
<v Speaker 1>And as an athlete and as a golfer, you can

0:38:47.440 --> 0:38:50.080
<v Speaker 1>feed off of that. And I'm sure that's probably the

0:38:50.120 --> 0:38:54.000
<v Speaker 1>first time that you've really kind of felt what you know,

0:38:54.080 --> 0:38:57.280
<v Speaker 1>they feel in the right cop what Rory and DJ

0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:00.480
<v Speaker 1>and Brooks feel like when they take the lead with

0:39:00.600 --> 0:39:04.399
<v Speaker 1>three holes left and there's a big crowd. That must

0:39:04.440 --> 0:39:07.840
<v Speaker 1>have been so cool to kind of hear those roles,

0:39:07.880 --> 0:39:09.600
<v Speaker 1>to know that you had a big following.

0:39:10.120 --> 0:39:12.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean I chipped in on my nineteenth hole

0:39:13.080 --> 0:39:16.239
<v Speaker 2>to start the match, which was electric, and I got

0:39:16.320 --> 0:39:18.080
<v Speaker 2>it gone. I'm like, okay, like I can come back.

0:39:18.120 --> 0:39:20.760
<v Speaker 2>And I feel like it was either you or Brett

0:39:20.760 --> 0:39:22.440
<v Speaker 2>who told me is like get it two down at

0:39:22.440 --> 0:39:23.120
<v Speaker 2>the turn.

0:39:22.920 --> 0:39:25.399
<v Speaker 1>I told I think we were all telling you that, right. Yeah.

0:39:25.440 --> 0:39:27.960
<v Speaker 1>I kind of felt like if you could get close

0:39:28.360 --> 0:39:32.719
<v Speaker 1>through nine. Obviously Oselli he's never been in that situation

0:39:32.880 --> 0:39:35.160
<v Speaker 1>before either. Right, he's trying to win the biggest tournament

0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:38.279
<v Speaker 1>of his life. You're going to have that moment of

0:39:38.680 --> 0:39:41.839
<v Speaker 1>confidence crisis right where you're like, okay, I'm four up.

0:39:42.360 --> 0:39:44.880
<v Speaker 1>And I kept everybody that I was talking to. I

0:39:44.920 --> 0:39:46.840
<v Speaker 1>was at Greenbrier for lib but all the guys that

0:39:46.880 --> 0:39:49.480
<v Speaker 1>were playing, you know that knew you were in it.

0:39:49.680 --> 0:39:51.960
<v Speaker 1>They all just were like, DJ was gone, dude, if

0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:57.399
<v Speaker 1>you could get it somehow around two, But if it's

0:39:57.400 --> 0:40:00.200
<v Speaker 1>at four and it goes to five, you're going to

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:03.319
<v Speaker 1>to run out of holes. Yeah, and you're you're gonna

0:40:03.400 --> 0:40:05.960
<v Speaker 1>run out of holes because mentally you're like, okay, I'm

0:40:06.080 --> 0:40:09.480
<v Speaker 1>five down now with X amount of holes to play,

0:40:09.520 --> 0:40:11.880
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, you know, you go five down in

0:40:11.920 --> 0:40:14.839
<v Speaker 1>that match early. Yeah, you start thinking, okay, I don't

0:40:14.840 --> 0:40:21.400
<v Speaker 1>have enough holes time. Yeah, what was the time between

0:40:21.560 --> 0:40:25.480
<v Speaker 1>the morning round and second round? What were you thinking?

0:40:26.160 --> 0:40:29.520
<v Speaker 1>How did you kind of flip that switch and kind

0:40:29.520 --> 0:40:32.400
<v Speaker 1>of make it a run in the second eighteen?

0:40:32.719 --> 0:40:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I took a shower actually in between rounds, and

0:40:36.040 --> 0:40:39.520
<v Speaker 2>then I called you talk to you. I talked to

0:40:39.560 --> 0:40:42.520
<v Speaker 2>Brett McCabe, who's my sports psychologist, and then I talked

0:40:42.520 --> 0:40:44.120
<v Speaker 2>to John Harris actually too.

0:40:44.360 --> 0:40:47.759
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, who's a former USAM Champion's a member of AUGUSTA. I

0:40:47.800 --> 0:40:51.480
<v Speaker 1>mean he's he's an amateur legend. I know his health

0:40:51.600 --> 0:40:54.840
<v Speaker 1>hasn't been great. You talked about it in the broadcast.

0:40:54.960 --> 0:40:56.799
<v Speaker 1>What advice did he give you? Yeah?

0:40:56.840 --> 0:40:59.200
<v Speaker 2>He knew I was struggling a bit. He's like, you

0:40:59.239 --> 0:41:01.279
<v Speaker 2>deserve to be there, Like you're better than this kid.

0:41:01.280 --> 0:41:04.440
<v Speaker 2>And he's just like, whenever you're warming up for you around,

0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:06.520
<v Speaker 2>get creative, hit a bunch of hooks, hit a bunch

0:41:06.560 --> 0:41:10.360
<v Speaker 2>of slices, and he said, bring high energy. I'm like, okay,

0:41:10.800 --> 0:41:12.239
<v Speaker 2>So I'm out there in the range and I'm sure

0:41:12.280 --> 0:41:14.359
<v Speaker 2>everybody's thinking, like what the heck is this kid doing?

0:41:14.360 --> 0:41:16.880
<v Speaker 2>Like I'm hitting eight iron hooks and slicing eight irons

0:41:16.920 --> 0:41:19.960
<v Speaker 2>and great advice. I'm like, okay, like I feel much

0:41:19.960 --> 0:41:21.799
<v Speaker 2>better than I did in the morning. Like I'm like,

0:41:21.840 --> 0:41:24.200
<v Speaker 2>I feel like now like I'm playing around with my buddies,

0:41:24.200 --> 0:41:26.080
<v Speaker 2>which is kind of funny, but I'm not like it

0:41:26.160 --> 0:41:27.759
<v Speaker 2>was more serious than that. But I'm warming up like

0:41:27.800 --> 0:41:32.000
<v Speaker 2>it's a nine am on a Sunday, and yeah, I mean,

0:41:32.520 --> 0:41:35.160
<v Speaker 2>as soon as I hold that chip on one, I'm like, okay,

0:41:35.160 --> 0:41:36.960
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna win this golf tournament. Like that was in

0:41:37.000 --> 0:41:38.480
<v Speaker 2>the morning. I did not think that the morning. I

0:41:38.480 --> 0:41:40.960
<v Speaker 2>struggled a lot, but then whenever I got it back

0:41:42.000 --> 0:41:43.840
<v Speaker 2>after that, I'm like, the crowd is so on my

0:41:43.920 --> 0:41:47.360
<v Speaker 2>side right now, like it is not with Josele. And

0:41:47.400 --> 0:41:49.440
<v Speaker 2>then he made a big pot on two and I

0:41:49.520 --> 0:41:52.640
<v Speaker 2>kind of like got put back in my place. I'm like, damn,

0:41:53.080 --> 0:41:54.920
<v Speaker 2>like okay, and then.

0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:57.000
<v Speaker 1>I was three down. Now I'm back to four down.

0:41:57.239 --> 0:41:59.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I kind of get up on the second team.

0:41:59.000 --> 0:42:04.360
<v Speaker 2>It's a bit deflating. And he pounded a dry he smoked,

0:42:05.080 --> 0:42:07.640
<v Speaker 2>So I made a funny joke to the later in

0:42:07.680 --> 0:42:10.160
<v Speaker 2>the round, to the people who were watching. So he

0:42:10.239 --> 0:42:11.800
<v Speaker 2>smokes when like dead straight and I look at a

0:42:11.920 --> 0:42:14.160
<v Speaker 2>j and I'm like, okay, like it's time to like ball.

0:42:14.840 --> 0:42:17.640
<v Speaker 2>And I hit it by him on that tea box

0:42:17.840 --> 0:42:19.600
<v Speaker 2>and he hits it right. I hit the par five

0:42:19.600 --> 0:42:24.040
<v Speaker 2>and two made birdie and I think on seven, I

0:42:24.080 --> 0:42:27.319
<v Speaker 2>made like a thirty five footer for eagle and I

0:42:27.360 --> 0:42:29.480
<v Speaker 2>got it back to two down and then I stuffed

0:42:29.520 --> 0:42:32.439
<v Speaker 2>it on eight and he had like a chip shot.

0:42:32.440 --> 0:42:34.360
<v Speaker 2>He almost shipped it in. I made my putt. I

0:42:34.400 --> 0:42:36.160
<v Speaker 2>go to ag I'm like, if we make this like

0:42:36.360 --> 0:42:39.040
<v Speaker 2>this is huge and I ended up barely missing and

0:42:39.080 --> 0:42:43.200
<v Speaker 2>I but I made the turn it two down. I'm

0:42:43.239 --> 0:42:45.879
<v Speaker 2>looking at him and I'm like, dude, like when one

0:42:45.920 --> 0:42:48.440
<v Speaker 2>more hole and this kid's gonna be like crapping himself.

0:42:48.520 --> 0:42:50.719
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna be nervous because I mean, again, neither one

0:42:50.719 --> 0:42:52.520
<v Speaker 1>of you have ever been in that situation. And I

0:42:52.520 --> 0:42:56.400
<v Speaker 1>think you know match play can turn on these moments

0:42:56.440 --> 0:43:00.160
<v Speaker 1>to where you think you're fine by the time you

0:43:00.160 --> 0:43:02.080
<v Speaker 1>you get it back to one up. He's got to

0:43:02.120 --> 0:43:04.920
<v Speaker 1>be thinking, Okay, I was cruising in the morning. This

0:43:05.040 --> 0:43:08.520
<v Speaker 1>kid had nothing, I mean, and all of a sudden,

0:43:09.160 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 1>with not that long ago.

0:43:11.080 --> 0:43:14.320
<v Speaker 2>I one down, but I gave him two holes back.

0:43:14.600 --> 0:43:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Actually I gave him a tenth hole, which is bad.

0:43:16.600 --> 0:43:18.799
<v Speaker 2>So he was back to three up on eleven and

0:43:18.840 --> 0:43:21.360
<v Speaker 2>he made a great birdie. So I'm four down with

0:43:22.400 --> 0:43:26.440
<v Speaker 2>seven to play, and I look at aj again and

0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:28.160
<v Speaker 2>like he's like, how bad do you want it? And

0:43:28.480 --> 0:43:32.400
<v Speaker 2>we tied twelve and thirteen was the first time. I

0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:33.960
<v Speaker 2>don't know how many holes that is. That was the

0:43:34.000 --> 0:43:36.320
<v Speaker 2>first time, Like he handed me a hole was thirteen

0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.959
<v Speaker 2>because he hit it in the water, and I still

0:43:38.960 --> 0:43:40.200
<v Speaker 2>made it hard for me to win, like I staw

0:43:40.280 --> 0:43:43.480
<v Speaker 2>to make like a five footer for par and then

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:46.480
<v Speaker 2>I made a huge pot on fourteen. We both birdied fifteen.

0:43:47.920 --> 0:43:52.920
<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, one, sixteen, tied seven. Yeah, I got

0:43:52.960 --> 0:43:54.840
<v Speaker 2>it to the eighteenth. I guarantee you. I can't imagine

0:43:54.840 --> 0:43:56.960
<v Speaker 2>how many people thought after the morning eighteen there was

0:43:57.000 --> 0:43:58.759
<v Speaker 2>no way that match was getting me the eighteenth hole.

0:43:58.920 --> 0:44:01.239
<v Speaker 1>I'll be honest. I I mean, obviously you didn't have

0:44:01.239 --> 0:44:03.920
<v Speaker 1>your best stuff going into you know that. After that

0:44:04.040 --> 0:44:05.520
<v Speaker 1>morning round, I thought it was going to be a

0:44:05.560 --> 0:44:07.480
<v Speaker 1>struggle for you because you've just never been in that

0:44:07.520 --> 0:44:10.279
<v Speaker 1>situation before, right, I Mean it's not like you've been

0:44:10.360 --> 0:44:14.000
<v Speaker 1>down the stretch in major championships. You know, you know

0:44:14.040 --> 0:44:18.680
<v Speaker 1>what that feels like. It's also probably your first real

0:44:18.960 --> 0:44:23.840
<v Speaker 1>real test of managing your adrenaline on some of the holes.

0:44:23.840 --> 0:44:26.920
<v Speaker 1>How much further were you hitting it with your irons

0:44:27.440 --> 0:44:30.920
<v Speaker 1>than you normally do, just because you're so jacked up

0:44:30.920 --> 0:44:33.920
<v Speaker 1>on all the adrenaline. Because I think the first hole

0:44:34.000 --> 0:44:37.319
<v Speaker 1>in the second round, that's what got you right. You

0:44:37.400 --> 0:44:40.000
<v Speaker 1>piped it in the start of the second eighteen. You're

0:44:40.080 --> 0:44:42.160
<v Speaker 1>right in the middle of the fair way and you

0:44:42.320 --> 0:44:45.480
<v Speaker 1>one bounced it over the green. And I guarantee you

0:44:45.480 --> 0:44:47.440
<v Speaker 1>you thought you had the white club and the right

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.600
<v Speaker 1>number and you didn't think you could hit it over it.

0:44:50.200 --> 0:44:52.480
<v Speaker 1>But you just go to all this adrenaline going and

0:44:52.520 --> 0:44:55.239
<v Speaker 1>you're like, man, how far did that go? Yeah?

0:44:55.360 --> 0:44:57.080
<v Speaker 2>I feel like there there's a couple of shots that

0:44:57.120 --> 0:44:59.879
<v Speaker 2>like stand out. I think the third hole, I think

0:44:59.880 --> 0:45:04.600
<v Speaker 2>it five would from three hundred and then seven was

0:45:04.760 --> 0:45:08.319
<v Speaker 2>four iron from like two forty five, And I think

0:45:08.320 --> 0:45:10.319
<v Speaker 2>I on twelve, I think I had eight iron from

0:45:10.320 --> 0:45:13.800
<v Speaker 2>two hundred. That's just fifteen. That was probably one of

0:45:13.840 --> 0:45:15.920
<v Speaker 2>the best pressure shots I've hit. Hit nine iron from

0:45:15.960 --> 0:45:18.359
<v Speaker 2>like one hundred and thirty yards on fifteen and took

0:45:18.400 --> 0:45:19.759
<v Speaker 2>spin off of it and stuffed it.

0:45:20.239 --> 0:45:22.400
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, so you didn't get the job done, you

0:45:22.480 --> 0:45:26.759
<v Speaker 1>end up losing two up. Yeah, you're going to the Masters,

0:45:27.000 --> 0:45:30.800
<v Speaker 1>You're in the US Open. What's the one thing coming

0:45:30.800 --> 0:45:32.759
<v Speaker 1>out of that experience at the USM nor that you

0:45:32.880 --> 0:45:36.319
<v Speaker 1>learned about yourself that you didn't know at the start

0:45:36.360 --> 0:45:36.759
<v Speaker 1>of the week.

0:45:37.160 --> 0:45:40.000
<v Speaker 2>That I belong with the the Leuke Clantons of the world,

0:45:40.040 --> 0:45:43.080
<v Speaker 2>the jose Lee by Stairs of the world, the Gordon

0:45:43.160 --> 0:45:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Sergeants of the world. I belong with as much as

0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:47.719
<v Speaker 2>their name is up there, I know that I can

0:45:47.800 --> 0:45:49.799
<v Speaker 2>fight for my right to be up there with them too.

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:51.360
<v Speaker 1>I think there will be a lot of people that

0:45:51.440 --> 0:45:53.960
<v Speaker 1>will hear that no one and think, Okay, that's that's

0:45:54.000 --> 0:45:57.640
<v Speaker 1>being cocky, that's being arrogant. But you have to believe

0:45:57.719 --> 0:46:02.040
<v Speaker 1>in yourself and your ability to get to the next

0:46:02.160 --> 0:46:05.080
<v Speaker 1>level if you don't. I mean, I had a lot

0:46:05.120 --> 0:46:09.480
<v Speaker 1>of players at the tournament when Brooks won the PGA

0:46:10.040 --> 0:46:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Beth Page when he made that comment in the press conference,

0:46:12.680 --> 0:46:14.719
<v Speaker 1>and you know everybody knows it. He was like, I

0:46:14.760 --> 0:46:18.319
<v Speaker 1>think major's the easiest ones to win. Nicholas thought this way,

0:46:18.320 --> 0:46:20.400
<v Speaker 1>and he went through that, and I had players, a

0:46:20.400 --> 0:46:22.400
<v Speaker 1>couple of players that I was working with, though, I mean,

0:46:22.400 --> 0:46:24.600
<v Speaker 1>who the hell does this kid think he is? And

0:46:24.680 --> 0:46:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I remember texting someone back going, don't you want to

0:46:27.680 --> 0:46:32.600
<v Speaker 1>think like that? And there's that borderline between being arrogant,

0:46:32.680 --> 0:46:36.080
<v Speaker 1>but also you have to believe in yourself as a

0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.799
<v Speaker 1>goal forer and you have to believe in yourself as

0:46:38.800 --> 0:46:43.520
<v Speaker 1>an athlete. And I think you need experiences like you

0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:46.640
<v Speaker 1>went through to believe, because I'll be honest with you,

0:46:46.680 --> 0:46:49.359
<v Speaker 1>and Brett and I have talked about this. You stepped out,

0:46:49.400 --> 0:46:51.320
<v Speaker 1>Dana and I've talked Abouss. I don't think you believed

0:46:51.480 --> 0:46:54.080
<v Speaker 1>you were good before this past summer. I think you

0:46:54.160 --> 0:46:56.759
<v Speaker 1>knew you had talent, but I don't think you believed

0:46:57.320 --> 0:47:00.799
<v Speaker 1>that you could go out and win big tournaments. What

0:47:00.920 --> 0:47:03.480
<v Speaker 1>do you do now going into your sophomore year with

0:47:03.640 --> 0:47:06.600
<v Speaker 1>that belief? How do you not get ahead of yourself?

0:47:07.000 --> 0:47:09.320
<v Speaker 1>How do you not fall into some of the traps

0:47:09.320 --> 0:47:12.520
<v Speaker 1>that you can fall into where you get sidetracked, you

0:47:12.520 --> 0:47:15.240
<v Speaker 1>start thinking you're a baller. Everybody starts because now everybody's

0:47:15.239 --> 0:47:17.560
<v Speaker 1>going to tell you you're good, right, Everybody kind of

0:47:17.640 --> 0:47:20.359
<v Speaker 1>knew you were good before this, So how do you

0:47:20.480 --> 0:47:24.440
<v Speaker 1>deal with the weight of expectation, but also how do

0:47:24.480 --> 0:47:27.760
<v Speaker 1>you deal with, like I said, not getting ahead of yourself,

0:47:27.880 --> 0:47:33.200
<v Speaker 1>staying humble, continuing to work hard so that you can

0:47:33.280 --> 0:47:35.719
<v Speaker 1>still achieve the goals and the dreams that you've got.

0:47:36.120 --> 0:47:37.439
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean I feel like I was. I talked

0:47:37.440 --> 0:47:39.719
<v Speaker 2>to Brett before this, before the USAM, I was always

0:47:39.760 --> 0:47:41.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the kids who would kind of be like,

0:47:41.040 --> 0:47:43.360
<v Speaker 2>oh wow, like that's Gordon Sergeant on the range, like

0:47:43.400 --> 0:47:45.799
<v Speaker 2>it's cool to be like competing against him. And you know,

0:47:45.920 --> 0:47:47.800
<v Speaker 2>my first college front back, I felt like I was

0:47:47.840 --> 0:47:49.839
<v Speaker 2>a kid that kind of everybody was looking at, which

0:47:49.880 --> 0:47:51.360
<v Speaker 2>is a new thing for me because I feel like

0:47:51.400 --> 0:47:54.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm a very humble kid, like I kinda very like

0:47:54.920 --> 0:47:58.640
<v Speaker 2>relaxed and you know, now I know which is really

0:47:58.680 --> 0:48:00.680
<v Speaker 2>hard for me to say, but I will admitted in

0:48:00.719 --> 0:48:02.759
<v Speaker 2>this last college urm, I got too comfortable, and I'll

0:48:02.760 --> 0:48:05.400
<v Speaker 2>fully admit that, like that's how I messed up, and

0:48:05.480 --> 0:48:07.200
<v Speaker 2>I learned from it. I was in the lead and

0:48:07.239 --> 0:48:10.720
<v Speaker 2>I ended up finishing thirteenth, and you know, I learned

0:48:10.719 --> 0:48:12.480
<v Speaker 2>a lot from this week, which is something I think

0:48:12.520 --> 0:48:16.319
<v Speaker 2>I needed for the future, to be completely honest. So yeah,

0:48:16.360 --> 0:48:17.560
<v Speaker 2>I mean I got too comfortable.

0:48:17.840 --> 0:48:19.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, wow, I think two of the best things

0:48:19.920 --> 0:48:22.400
<v Speaker 1>that I think when you look back, I think this

0:48:22.480 --> 0:48:26.560
<v Speaker 1>past week are two really really important things. Post getting

0:48:26.560 --> 0:48:29.759
<v Speaker 1>to the finals of the USM. One, you go out

0:48:29.840 --> 0:48:33.000
<v Speaker 1>your sophomore year at Iowa and your first college tournament.

0:48:33.120 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>After the USM you're leading after the first round, and

0:48:36.320 --> 0:48:40.839
<v Speaker 1>I think in the long run, finishing thirteen thinking that Okay, yeah,

0:48:40.840 --> 0:48:42.000
<v Speaker 1>I'm just gonna keep playing good.

0:48:43.120 --> 0:48:43.319
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

0:48:43.640 --> 0:48:45.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that's that's huge for your learning, and I

0:48:45.840 --> 0:48:50.160
<v Speaker 1>think it's it's massive that you understand that you still

0:48:50.200 --> 0:48:50.960
<v Speaker 1>have a long way to go.

0:48:51.520 --> 0:48:53.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, I mean, I was mad for about an

0:48:53.920 --> 0:48:56.400
<v Speaker 2>hour after the golf tournament, but like I really like

0:48:57.040 --> 0:48:58.960
<v Speaker 2>got into it. I did all my stat work that

0:48:59.000 --> 0:49:01.600
<v Speaker 2>we do. I looked into and I'm like, I think

0:49:01.640 --> 0:49:04.160
<v Speaker 2>I'm like man, Like, as much as like it sucks,

0:49:04.360 --> 0:49:06.160
<v Speaker 2>it's like over with, Like I can't change it. It's

0:49:06.160 --> 0:49:09.439
<v Speaker 2>like I can use this to my advantage so much

0:49:09.440 --> 0:49:11.399
<v Speaker 2>better in the future. Like we have Purdue in two

0:49:11.400 --> 0:49:14.840
<v Speaker 2>weeks and it's like, speak, I'm hungry than I ever was.

0:49:14.920 --> 0:49:17.279
<v Speaker 2>Like I want to win so bad. I can't force it.

0:49:17.320 --> 0:49:19.359
<v Speaker 2>I kind of gotta let it. I mean, like let

0:49:19.400 --> 0:49:21.960
<v Speaker 2>it happen, but like I now know, I feel like

0:49:22.000 --> 0:49:23.640
<v Speaker 2>the last two turns the USA am and that like

0:49:23.640 --> 0:49:25.880
<v Speaker 2>I've learned so much to what it means to close

0:49:25.920 --> 0:49:28.080
<v Speaker 2>out a golf throat now that I just I feel

0:49:28.120 --> 0:49:31.040
<v Speaker 2>like I have so much of an advantage and I

0:49:31.080 --> 0:49:32.960
<v Speaker 2>know how to use it. More like I feel like

0:49:32.960 --> 0:49:34.279
<v Speaker 2>what you said, like it was great to be like

0:49:34.320 --> 0:49:36.640
<v Speaker 2>in the lead, I got comfortable, but now I feel

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:38.120
<v Speaker 2>like I know what I need to do to stay

0:49:38.160 --> 0:49:40.520
<v Speaker 2>within myself to close it out for the final eight team.

0:49:40.960 --> 0:49:42.759
<v Speaker 1>You know, I've told you the story before, but Tiger

0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:45.200
<v Speaker 1>Woods in two thousand and one, when my dad was

0:49:45.239 --> 0:49:47.360
<v Speaker 1>working with Tiger, my dad and I never work with

0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:51.360
<v Speaker 1>Adam Scott. We were at the PGA the Atlanta Athletic

0:49:51.400 --> 0:49:54.040
<v Speaker 1>Club that David Toms won, and we got Scotty to

0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:56.320
<v Speaker 1>play practun with Tiger. I mean, it's two thousand and

0:49:56.360 --> 0:49:59.040
<v Speaker 1>one Tiger, so it's it's as good as it gets, right,

0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:02.479
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's it's Tiger Mania that stretch from two

0:50:02.560 --> 0:50:05.080
<v Speaker 1>thousand to two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine,

0:50:05.120 --> 0:50:08.200
<v Speaker 1>I mean, you couldn't beat him. And Adam was still

0:50:08.200 --> 0:50:10.799
<v Speaker 1>playing on the European Tour and Tiger said, Hey, you

0:50:10.800 --> 0:50:12.960
<v Speaker 1>just got to learn how to hang around and get

0:50:13.000 --> 0:50:17.000
<v Speaker 1>in position more often, put yourself in position all the time.

0:50:17.640 --> 0:50:20.320
<v Speaker 1>Do you feel like maybe that's something that you haven't

0:50:20.320 --> 0:50:24.120
<v Speaker 1>felt before that it's as much about getting yourself into

0:50:24.160 --> 0:50:28.120
<v Speaker 1>position to win tournaments as opposed to trying to shoot

0:50:28.160 --> 0:50:31.880
<v Speaker 1>sixty four on the first day and birdie every hole,

0:50:32.440 --> 0:50:35.040
<v Speaker 1>because it's hard to do that, right, It's hard to

0:50:35.160 --> 0:50:40.840
<v Speaker 1>play good all the time. What are your goals now, Noah?

0:50:41.000 --> 0:50:44.560
<v Speaker 1>Moving forward? Obviously you're going to play in two majors

0:50:44.560 --> 0:50:47.480
<v Speaker 1>next year. Yeah, but what are your goals for this

0:50:47.640 --> 0:50:49.720
<v Speaker 1>year and this season at IOWA?

0:50:50.200 --> 0:50:52.080
<v Speaker 2>I feel like I'm very good at like breaking it

0:50:52.120 --> 0:50:54.840
<v Speaker 2>down into parts of the year, so I'm kind of

0:50:54.960 --> 0:50:58.239
<v Speaker 2>letting that end of the year kind of be its

0:50:58.239 --> 0:51:00.000
<v Speaker 2>own thing. I'm really focused on what's going on now

0:51:00.080 --> 0:51:04.200
<v Speaker 2>on the fall, so we have three more events that

0:51:04.200 --> 0:51:06.000
<v Speaker 2>were playing in the fall. I want my scoring average

0:51:06.040 --> 0:51:08.719
<v Speaker 2>to be below seventy and a half, so that's one

0:51:08.719 --> 0:51:09.240
<v Speaker 2>of my goals.

0:51:09.280 --> 0:51:12.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, So last year you played every tournament, it's

0:51:12.400 --> 0:51:15.600
<v Speaker 1>seventy two point eight. Do you find a way to

0:51:15.640 --> 0:51:17.760
<v Speaker 1>shave off two strokes?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 1>How you do that? I'm really interested to hear this.

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<v Speaker 2>So right now my scoring average is seventy one point six,

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<v Speaker 2>which is pretty decent. But now we switched over our

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<v Speaker 2>stats to clipt YEP, so it's really in depth. So

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<v Speaker 2>I've been I've never been more on top of it

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<v Speaker 2>in my life. So for me, I'm a really good

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<v Speaker 2>iron player and a really good putter. So for me,

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<v Speaker 2>I was getting better off the tee. So I want

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<v Speaker 2>to limit my penalty shots I have per tournament. If

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<v Speaker 2>I limit my penalty shots, I think that's easily a

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<v Speaker 2>stroke for me off my scoring average over the whole year.

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<v Speaker 1>Thinking about it, the biggest weapon you have is the driver.

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<v Speaker 1>But with a big weapon like a driver, we see

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best players in the world. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Rory drives the shit out of it, right, But when

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<v Speaker 1>you hit it as far as you guys hit it

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<v Speaker 1>with the speed that you've got, when it goes offline,

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<v Speaker 1>it goes a long way offline.

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<v Speaker 2>I feel like a big proponent to me get it.

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<v Speaker 2>My score is lower as a Tiger five, so it's

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<v Speaker 2>no bad up and it's no three putts I think.

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<v Speaker 2>I think it's no bogies with a scoring club in

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<v Speaker 2>your hand.

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<v Speaker 1>So Tiger's mantra was no bogies on par fives, no

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<v Speaker 1>big numbers, so no doubles triples, no bogies inside of

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<v Speaker 1>one hundred yards, no three potts, and no blown easy

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<v Speaker 1>up and downs. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>So I think if I do that mixed with my

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<v Speaker 2>hazard balls and not losing any balls, I think there's

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<v Speaker 2>a pretty good shot I can do what I have

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<v Speaker 2>that goal for. I don't wanta for three more. I

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<v Speaker 2>don't want to finish outside of the top twenty, on

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<v Speaker 2>inside the top twenty all that tournaments, and a big

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<v Speaker 2>one for me is getting in the gym. War So

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<v Speaker 2>I would say those are my three big ones for

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<v Speaker 2>me right now that I'm focusing on. Obviously I have

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<v Speaker 2>smart goals, but those are my three kind of like

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<v Speaker 2>big goals. I don't want to knock out.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm just gonna go out ahead and say this.

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<v Speaker 1>If you're not getting your ass into the gym, the

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<v Speaker 1>hell is wrong with you because someone else playing college golf,

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<v Speaker 1>playing amateur golf, and all the people that you're going

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<v Speaker 1>to be playing with, and the masters in the US Open,

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<v Speaker 1>they're in the gym. They're not taking any days off. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's been a hell of a summer man, it was

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<v Speaker 1>fun to watch you play. It was fun to I

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<v Speaker 1>sent you a picture after your semifinal round. I was

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<v Speaker 1>out to dinner and I'm sitting at a restaurant at

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<v Speaker 1>the Greenbrier, and I look at the bar and the

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<v Speaker 1>TV at the bar, and you're getting interviewed. Definitely something

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<v Speaker 1>that I thought would happen at some point. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>think it would happen this early, or you as a

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<v Speaker 1>nineteen year old. But listen, it's been fun. I think

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<v Speaker 1>you've had of proven to yourself that you belong, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>on the competitive amateur circuit, you know, in big competitive ones.

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<v Speaker 1>And I think everybody listening will follow you. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>a fun story at the Masters. And you got to

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<v Speaker 1>go get some w's this all and this spring at Iowa,

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<v Speaker 1>you got to go get some wins. So you better

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<v Speaker 1>bring home some trophies all the Hawkeyes. Noah, great talking

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<v Speaker 1>to you, pal. We're proud of you. And go to school,

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<v Speaker 1>go to class, get your ass.

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<v Speaker 2>In the gen Oh well, well, thank you so much

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<v Speaker 2>for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Great talking to you. So that was no a kent,

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<v Speaker 1>And listen, I think the kid's got a bright future.

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<v Speaker 1>He's got a lot of tools. In the toolbox. But

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<v Speaker 1>it'll be very interesting to see if he can take,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, a really good run at the USM and

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<v Speaker 1>and turn that into an amateur career that is filled

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<v Speaker 1>with a lot of promise because, like I said, he

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<v Speaker 1>hits at miles. He's kind of got the prototype of

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<v Speaker 1>what the modern game is. But that's no guarantee for success.

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<v Speaker 1>But I think he's got a bright future and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he is someone that we will hear from again.

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