1 00:00:01,520 --> 00:00:03,800 Speaker 1: It's the Son of a Bush podcast. Your host Claude 2 00:00:03,840 --> 00:00:06,840 Speaker 1: ha Rman. My guest this week is a nineteen year 3 00:00:06,840 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: old sophomore at the University of Iowa. You just lost 4 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: in the finals of the us AM. It would have 5 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: been much cooler to say, no, you won in the 6 00:00:14,880 --> 00:00:18,119 Speaker 1: finals of the us AM. But I mean it was 7 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: a hell of a summer for you. I mean what happened. 8 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:22,320 Speaker 1: You know, obviously, you played great at Iowa last year 9 00:00:22,320 --> 00:00:25,840 Speaker 1: as a freshman, led the team in scoring average, played 10 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:27,640 Speaker 1: in every tournament as a freshman, which I think is 11 00:00:27,680 --> 00:00:31,960 Speaker 1: a Division one college golfer is very very rare. Your 12 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: stroke average was great, you had a bunch of top tens. 13 00:00:34,640 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 1: But you went into the us AM I think ranked 14 00:00:38,200 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: five hundred and sixty and in the Wagger rankings and 15 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,519 Speaker 1: you got to the finals. So it's been about just 16 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:47,400 Speaker 1: a little bit under a month. Have you had time 17 00:00:47,440 --> 00:00:50,760 Speaker 1: to decompress and have any kind of reflection on what 18 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 1: you actually kind of did. I'm second at the Porter 19 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 1: Cup this summer, so that was a huge stepping stone. 20 00:00:56,840 --> 00:00:58,360 Speaker 1: I think the year in the development. But I mean 21 00:00:58,400 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 1: the USM is you know, it's close to being a 22 00:01:00,880 --> 00:01:03,560 Speaker 1: major for you know, you look at the names on 23 00:01:03,600 --> 00:01:05,560 Speaker 1: that trophy of everybody who's wanted. But if you had 24 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:07,759 Speaker 1: a chance to kind of take stock of what. 25 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:09,720 Speaker 2: Happened, Yeah, I just want to say thank you so 26 00:01:09,760 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 2: much for having me on. This is awesome. It means 27 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: a lot. I don't know. I really haven't reflected yet, 28 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:20,720 Speaker 2: to be quite honest. I mean, I mean, yeah, my 29 00:01:20,840 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 2: dad sent me a thing, and so my parents, my 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 2: mom and Dana. It's just like you get to eat, 31 00:01:26,920 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 2: like you see the stuff on Gulf Diye. Just it's 32 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,959 Speaker 2: like here's the Masters field, like going into twenty twenty five. 33 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 2: It's just like you see your name and it's just like, huh, 34 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 2: that's pretty interesting. But it's like, yeah, I mean it 35 00:01:38,200 --> 00:01:40,160 Speaker 2: was a ton of fun. I feel like talking to 36 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 2: you and talking to Brett, like everybody around me, I 37 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:45,160 Speaker 2: have like a really awesome team, which means the world 38 00:01:45,240 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 2: who all believe in me, probably more than I believe 39 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:50,960 Speaker 2: in myself at times. So I feel like for me, 40 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:54,960 Speaker 2: I finally believed in myself the way I should and 41 00:01:55,000 --> 00:01:59,440 Speaker 2: it kind of reflected as as belief. But I guess 42 00:01:59,480 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: in the US. 43 00:02:00,240 --> 00:02:02,400 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean for everyone listening that doesn't know if 44 00:02:02,440 --> 00:02:04,080 Speaker 1: you make it to the finals of the US Amateur, 45 00:02:04,480 --> 00:02:06,880 Speaker 1: you get into the Masters, and the following year you 46 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 1: get into the US Open. I want to go back 47 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: to the beginning. Your dad was a golfer. He played 48 00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: in the US Junior. Your stepdad, Data Fryes, a golf 49 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:21,040 Speaker 1: course architect, designed Aaron Hills where Brooks won his first 50 00:02:21,040 --> 00:02:24,399 Speaker 1: major championship. I was there your stepdad, Dana. He took 51 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,880 Speaker 1: you to that tournament. You met Rory McElroy. You were 52 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,360 Speaker 1: playing hockey at that point. How old were you back then? 53 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:30,960 Speaker 1: I mean, I'm bad at math, so. 54 00:02:31,240 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 2: I think it was nine in twenty seventeen ten. 55 00:02:33,720 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 1: I wasn't even going to guess because I would have failed. 56 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,560 Speaker 1: So you're nine years old, you meet Rory McElroy out 57 00:02:39,560 --> 00:02:41,480 Speaker 1: of major championship. What was that like? I mean, he 58 00:02:41,520 --> 00:02:43,640 Speaker 1: obviously you knew who he was, but how did that 59 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: come about? And what was that experience like for you? 60 00:02:46,919 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, so he missed the cut, which is kind of 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:51,720 Speaker 2: funny because somebody still gave me time. And Dana met 62 00:02:51,720 --> 00:02:52,760 Speaker 2: Sean earlier in the week. 63 00:02:52,960 --> 00:02:54,720 Speaker 1: Seawn his agent, Sean Flerty. Yeah. 64 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know the thing, it kind of stuck out. 65 00:02:57,200 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: It's like Rory is not that tall Orray's not that big, 66 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: and I'm kind of like, how do you hit the 67 00:03:01,919 --> 00:03:04,880 Speaker 2: ball so far? And he told me how it's all 68 00:03:04,919 --> 00:03:07,400 Speaker 2: in your legs, And I feel like whenever I met him, 69 00:03:07,400 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, this would be kind of cool to do it. 70 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: He just did, like playing a major championship. Like I'm 71 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:13,720 Speaker 2: a little kid, like not really thinking much of it. 72 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, like I want to quit hockey and 73 00:03:15,400 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 2: play golf. 74 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean, not many kids like get that 75 00:03:18,440 --> 00:03:21,119 Speaker 1: opportunity to meet, you know, someone from another sport who 76 00:03:21,200 --> 00:03:23,480 Speaker 1: is a you know, I mean Rory at that point, 77 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:25,639 Speaker 1: is it's incredible that he's still sitting on the same 78 00:03:25,639 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 1: amount of majors in twenty four that he was sitting 79 00:03:27,520 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: on in seventeen. He's been the number one player in 80 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:32,920 Speaker 1: the world. I mean, you can make an argument that 81 00:03:32,960 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 1: when he's on I mean, I think he's one of 82 00:03:35,280 --> 00:03:37,400 Speaker 1: the best players in the world day in and day out. 83 00:03:37,800 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: I think he'll go down as one of the best 84 00:03:39,240 --> 00:03:43,160 Speaker 1: of this generation. But you made the decision to change, 85 00:03:43,360 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 1: and you played a lot of golf up until that point. 86 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,520 Speaker 1: I mean, what was your by the time you were 87 00:03:47,600 --> 00:03:50,080 Speaker 1: nine ten years old, when you decided to choose the 88 00:03:50,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: pathway of saying, Okay, I'm going to just play competitive 89 00:03:52,720 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: junior golf. How much golf had you really played? 90 00:03:56,640 --> 00:03:58,600 Speaker 2: My dad got me starting it, but I feel like 91 00:03:58,720 --> 00:04:01,640 Speaker 2: Dana played probably the biggest role in like really getting 92 00:04:01,640 --> 00:04:05,320 Speaker 2: me into it. So he did a course called Colucive Pines, 93 00:04:05,320 --> 00:04:07,280 Speaker 2: which is right by where I live in Naples, Florida. 94 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,240 Speaker 2: And I did a chipping competition no longer after that 95 00:04:10,280 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: with Rocko Media eight and I hold a couple chip 96 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:15,760 Speaker 2: shots in front of him, and you know, it's kind 97 00:04:15,760 --> 00:04:17,440 Speaker 2: of like you got like a little I didn't even 98 00:04:17,480 --> 00:04:19,360 Speaker 2: know what my ego was at the time that young, 99 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:21,320 Speaker 2: when he kind of like boosted me up like oh yeah, 100 00:04:21,400 --> 00:04:23,520 Speaker 2: like you're a really good chipper. And it's like kind 101 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:25,720 Speaker 2: of after that, like you get told you're good at 102 00:04:25,720 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 2: something when you're a little kid, and you're kind of like, oh, 103 00:04:27,520 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 2: maybe I start doing this more, and yeah, I just 104 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:30,800 Speaker 2: started taking it serious. From there. 105 00:04:31,040 --> 00:04:33,200 Speaker 1: I read a story that Tommy Morrison, who's you know, 106 00:04:33,320 --> 00:04:35,800 Speaker 1: Tommy's a stud right playing at the University of Texas. 107 00:04:37,080 --> 00:04:38,760 Speaker 1: He came and played in a tournament. Was it at 108 00:04:38,760 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 1: Calusa or Naples? When you were how old Naples National. 109 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,960 Speaker 1: I was the Terra Cotta, right, the Terracotta Amateur, which 110 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:45,800 Speaker 1: is a which is a big junior golf tournament. A 111 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:48,479 Speaker 1: bunch of players have won that before. Tommy is you know, 112 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:50,800 Speaker 1: I mean he's a larger than what's he like, six 113 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:51,719 Speaker 1: seven six eight? 114 00:04:51,960 --> 00:04:53,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, I met him when that year as we were 115 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 2: both fourteen. He was six eight and I was five 116 00:04:56,120 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 2: six six eight. 117 00:04:57,560 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: Is a prech as a fourteen year old. You're six ' 118 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,960 Speaker 1: four now, so you don't have to look up to 119 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 1: him as much. But again, you meet a young, you know, 120 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,520 Speaker 1: player who was getting a lot of buzz at that time, 121 00:05:09,600 --> 00:05:12,440 Speaker 1: and he spends time with you. I think it's it's 122 00:05:12,520 --> 00:05:15,960 Speaker 1: huge for kids, Noah, to have these kind of data 123 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: points in your life. Right, everybody wants to be you know, 124 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,240 Speaker 1: when you're a junior golfer, I think everybody wants to 125 00:05:21,279 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: be their heroes, right, you want to be Scotty Scheffler, 126 00:05:23,560 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 1: Ory McElroy, genre whoever it is. But when you meet 127 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:31,560 Speaker 1: someone who's kind of a similar age that you're at, 128 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:34,279 Speaker 1: it's a junior golfer like you are, I think it 129 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: can be a really big boost to help kind of 130 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,200 Speaker 1: plant that seed to where Okay, I could do this 131 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:43,520 Speaker 1: as well. So you meet him, did you play with him? 132 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 1: Did you watch him practice? What was that story? 133 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:47,560 Speaker 2: So I was a standard Bear that year. So I 134 00:05:47,600 --> 00:05:49,880 Speaker 2: was taking scores and I told Dana, I'm like, go 135 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:52,200 Speaker 2: watch this kid play. Like I know he's fourteen. I 136 00:05:52,279 --> 00:05:55,040 Speaker 2: think he's pretty good. I didn't know how Tolly was actually, 137 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 2: So then after a round I met him. We got 138 00:05:56,839 --> 00:05:58,440 Speaker 2: a photo and I'm like, I want to go play 139 00:05:58,560 --> 00:06:01,239 Speaker 2: nine holes, like you want to come play with and 140 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:04,479 Speaker 2: he was hitting the two iron pass my driver. And 141 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 2: after the round, I go to Dana, I'm like, yeah, 142 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,120 Speaker 2: I got a long way to go if he's fourteen, 143 00:06:09,160 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 2: and I'm fourteen, Like so yeah, I mean we actually 144 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:16,640 Speaker 2: played a practice round together before the USM at Chaska 145 00:06:16,760 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 2: Town Course, and the funny thing was was on the 146 00:06:19,440 --> 00:06:21,880 Speaker 2: seventh hole, I went up to him like it's not 147 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,440 Speaker 2: like we're fourteen anymore, and I'm like twenty by him now. 148 00:06:24,480 --> 00:06:25,680 Speaker 2: So it's funny the kid. 149 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:27,440 Speaker 1: I think he's got a bright future. And when you 150 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 1: see him, you just don't see golfers that big. But 151 00:06:31,279 --> 00:06:34,120 Speaker 1: I think you now, as a sophomore, you are kind 152 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:38,200 Speaker 1: of the prototype of what we see the modern and 153 00:06:38,320 --> 00:06:41,480 Speaker 1: a junior golfer and modern college golfer six foot four. 154 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: Just to piss everybody off, that's that's not a superstar 155 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:50,280 Speaker 1: like yourself as an amateur. What's your ball speed? What's 156 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:53,039 Speaker 1: your clubhead speed? Right now? Who's like not trying to 157 00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:55,640 Speaker 1: go after once? What do you kind of cruise clubheadspeed 158 00:06:55,680 --> 00:06:56,320 Speaker 1: and ball speed at. 159 00:06:56,440 --> 00:06:59,120 Speaker 2: I'd probably say it's like probably somewhere between like twenty 160 00:06:59,120 --> 00:07:02,200 Speaker 2: three and twenty six, and it's probably like eighty four 161 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 2: to like eighty eight somewhere in there. 162 00:07:03,920 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: Okay, So for everybody listening, that's one hundred and twenty 163 00:07:06,520 --> 00:07:08,280 Speaker 1: two to one hundred and twenty three miles per hour 164 00:07:08,320 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: cluppet speed and kind of mid one eighties ball speed, 165 00:07:11,880 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 1: which is on a pore with some of the longest 166 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: hitters in the game. I mean, we'll just keep going 167 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 1: with this to piss everybody off. How far are you 168 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:22,360 Speaker 1: here in five iron carry, no wind, flat carry, not 169 00:07:22,400 --> 00:07:25,440 Speaker 1: trying to kill one to twenty five twenty five? Okay, Yeah, 170 00:07:25,440 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: that's great. Everybody's gonna love that seven iron. 171 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:29,520 Speaker 2: One ninety five two hundred. 172 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: One ninety five, two hundred. You know you can step 173 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:33,520 Speaker 1: on it and get it to two fifteen. Okay, this 174 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:35,600 Speaker 1: will be the one that treats everybody out nine iron? 175 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: How far are you here? 176 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 2: Nine? 177 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:40,160 Speaker 1: I just stock nine iron, no wind, flat line. 178 00:07:39,880 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 2: One hundred and sixty, one hundred and sixty five. 179 00:07:43,400 --> 00:07:45,080 Speaker 1: When I first saw you, I mean, what's it been 180 00:07:45,160 --> 00:07:47,760 Speaker 1: like four years ago? I think four years ago. I 181 00:07:47,760 --> 00:07:50,840 Speaker 1: mean obviously when someone like you as a young kid 182 00:07:50,920 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: gets brought, you know, by their parents. To me, I'm 183 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,360 Speaker 1: lucky enough to work with some really good players that 184 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:59,120 Speaker 1: have a tremendous amount of speed, and I've got to 185 00:07:59,160 --> 00:08:01,119 Speaker 1: be honest with you. See you hit a golf ball 186 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:03,880 Speaker 1: and watching you kind of ramp up through that first 187 00:08:03,920 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 1: lesson we got looking at the size you were looking 188 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: at kind of the raw speed that you had, it 189 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,000 Speaker 1: reminded me a lot of the first time that I 190 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:15,320 Speaker 1: saw Brooks. I met Brooks after he graduated from Florida State. 191 00:08:15,360 --> 00:08:18,200 Speaker 1: He was Peter u Line's roommate. They were playing on 192 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,760 Speaker 1: the Challenge Store. I was working with DJ at the time, 193 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: but I was working with Ernie Els he just won 194 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 1: his fourth major, and I saw Brooks and I'm just 195 00:08:25,000 --> 00:08:27,160 Speaker 1: watching the speed, and I think it was a very 196 00:08:27,240 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: similar situation and watching you, I mean I went away 197 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,120 Speaker 1: from that first golf lesson even though you were still 198 00:08:32,200 --> 00:08:35,679 Speaker 1: really really young and still really really raw. You have 199 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: a lot of the attributes in golf that you can't teach. Right. 200 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:40,480 Speaker 1: It's a little bit like being a running back or 201 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:44,160 Speaker 1: a wide receiver, either faster or not right. You can 202 00:08:44,200 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 1: either teach that maybe, but either have that. So you 203 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:51,080 Speaker 1: have all this speed, you have all this power, and 204 00:08:52,120 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: correct me if I'm wrong. I think it's taken you 205 00:08:54,000 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: a while to kind of grow into that, to kind 206 00:08:57,520 --> 00:09:00,600 Speaker 1: of understand the speed and the power or you have, 207 00:09:00,800 --> 00:09:04,800 Speaker 1: but also how to use that. Have you noticed, Noah, 208 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 1: the jump from being a high school junior golfer to 209 00:09:08,800 --> 00:09:11,400 Speaker 1: now going into your second year as a college golfer. 210 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:15,200 Speaker 1: How have you learned and tried to deal with the 211 00:09:15,200 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: fact that you have this kind of formula one kind 212 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:19,920 Speaker 1: of race car, right? I mean you can go as 213 00:09:19,960 --> 00:09:22,080 Speaker 1: fast as you want if we tell you to hit 214 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,920 Speaker 1: it further. I mean, if you really want to jump 215 00:09:24,000 --> 00:09:28,080 Speaker 1: on one with your driver, I mean, how far do 216 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:31,000 Speaker 1: you feel like you can carry it in the air? 217 00:09:31,240 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: You really want to step on one? 218 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,640 Speaker 2: I got one last winter time in the simulator was 219 00:09:36,679 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 2: called here. I got one three sixty at sea level. 220 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: So the obvious question is you just played your first 221 00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:47,719 Speaker 1: tournament of the year for the University of Iiowa. You 222 00:09:47,720 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 1: guys went up to Minnesota. Back to Minnesota where the 223 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:52,559 Speaker 1: USAMA was not at hazel team, but good vibes up there. 224 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,200 Speaker 1: Took me through the eight that you make on a 225 00:09:55,240 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: part five with all the damn speed you have. Talk 226 00:10:00,320 --> 00:10:00,880 Speaker 1: me through that. 227 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,839 Speaker 2: Yeah, great great hole to ask about. I really appreciate that. 228 00:10:05,280 --> 00:10:06,080 Speaker 1: Yeah, of course. 229 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 2: So I feel like whenever I hit a cut, now 230 00:10:10,080 --> 00:10:12,960 Speaker 2: that's something we've worked on together, and you know, I 231 00:10:13,040 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 2: decided to try and not hit a cut, which was 232 00:10:15,200 --> 00:10:17,680 Speaker 2: a dumb, nineteen year old decision that I decided to make. 233 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:21,280 Speaker 2: And yeah, that golf ball's gone living in the woods 234 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,640 Speaker 2: somewhere in Minnesota and. 235 00:10:22,760 --> 00:10:23,960 Speaker 1: Going to have a cold winter. 236 00:10:24,480 --> 00:10:27,760 Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I hit another one with my mini 237 00:10:27,840 --> 00:10:31,120 Speaker 2: driver and I had to take an unplayable after that drive, 238 00:10:31,160 --> 00:10:33,040 Speaker 2: and yeah, made Nate. That's how that. 239 00:10:34,080 --> 00:10:36,960 Speaker 1: You know, when you juniors and college players, you know, 240 00:10:37,040 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 1: talk about these big numbers you make, there's always this 241 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:42,959 Speaker 1: story about, you know, I did this and I did that. 242 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:46,080 Speaker 1: Then it hit into you know, I mean the two iron. 243 00:10:46,120 --> 00:10:47,680 Speaker 1: You've got your back how far you carry that? 244 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 2: I took that out. I have a five wood now. 245 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,520 Speaker 1: Okay, so how far you carry the five one comfortable. 246 00:10:52,120 --> 00:10:53,559 Speaker 2: Is probably to sixty five? 247 00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 1: Okay. How long was the par five you just made 248 00:10:55,880 --> 00:10:58,800 Speaker 1: Nate on. I mean it wasn't seven hundred yards tixo 249 00:10:59,000 --> 00:11:02,520 Speaker 1: five okay, so you still could have hit five wood 250 00:11:02,520 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: in the middle of the fairway. Lay up, Yeah, make 251 00:11:05,480 --> 00:11:09,560 Speaker 1: a birdie. The jump from junior golf to college golf. 252 00:11:09,640 --> 00:11:12,679 Speaker 1: What have you noticed is the difference for you as 253 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:15,400 Speaker 1: a player, right, because there is a big step right 254 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 1: every developmental stage that you go at as an athlete, 255 00:11:18,960 --> 00:11:22,120 Speaker 1: but specifically as a golfer, there is a jump from 256 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:26,680 Speaker 1: junior golf from you know, AJGA golf to high level 257 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,640 Speaker 1: junior golf and then the level that you're trying to 258 00:11:29,640 --> 00:11:31,720 Speaker 1: go out now. When you got to Iowa as a freshman, 259 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 1: the mac McLear story fifth your senior two time Big 260 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:40,959 Speaker 1: Big ten champ, tell everybody what you decided to tell 261 00:11:40,960 --> 00:11:42,520 Speaker 1: your coach that you wanted to do as soon as 262 00:11:42,520 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: you got to Iowa as a freshman. 263 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:45,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wanted them as much as I can 264 00:11:46,000 --> 00:11:48,520 Speaker 2: and beat them as much as I can, And I 265 00:11:48,640 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 2: kind of I kind of did that, So that's pretty good. 266 00:11:51,280 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 1: So you said to your coach, Hey, he's the best 267 00:11:53,760 --> 00:11:57,160 Speaker 1: player on the team, he's kind of a stud. I'm 268 00:11:57,200 --> 00:12:00,719 Speaker 1: a freshman coming in. I want to play him and 269 00:12:00,920 --> 00:12:03,760 Speaker 1: see what I can do. You won, right, Yeah, three 270 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 1: and two, three and two. What did you notice about 271 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,680 Speaker 1: your game going up against someone who's obviously in the 272 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:14,040 Speaker 1: college ranks, a fifty year senior, two time Big ten champ. 273 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: I mean, he's the stud of the team, right. Every 274 00:12:15,679 --> 00:12:18,560 Speaker 1: college golf team kind of has that guy that is 275 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: the stud. Most of the time they're either you know, 276 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:24,600 Speaker 1: juniors or seniors. But there are guys that are studs 277 00:12:24,600 --> 00:12:27,600 Speaker 1: as a freshman, as a sophomore, but very rarely. But 278 00:12:27,640 --> 00:12:29,679 Speaker 1: when you got to iowan you kind of I mean, 279 00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 1: let's be honest. You called out Mac and Sid listen, 280 00:12:31,480 --> 00:12:34,200 Speaker 1: I want to see what my game can do against 281 00:12:34,240 --> 00:12:37,559 Speaker 1: the team's best player. Were you surprised at the way 282 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 1: you played? Were you surprised at the way he played? 283 00:12:40,559 --> 00:12:41,960 Speaker 1: What did you notice about that day? 284 00:12:42,640 --> 00:12:46,400 Speaker 2: Uh? I figured out that he doesn't make as many 285 00:12:46,440 --> 00:12:50,600 Speaker 2: big numbers as I do. I feel like, you know, 286 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:54,319 Speaker 2: everybody who's the best in college golf. What I've realized 287 00:12:54,360 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 2: I've learned a lot from my freshman a sophomore, you're 288 00:12:56,840 --> 00:12:59,839 Speaker 2: like freshman year, I'm kind of looking in like wow, 289 00:13:00,040 --> 00:13:02,679 Speaker 2: like everybody's like really good. And you get to your 290 00:13:02,679 --> 00:13:04,480 Speaker 2: sophomore and now I kind of feel like I'm kind 291 00:13:04,480 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 2: of one of the bigger dogs, like people are kind 292 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,040 Speaker 2: of looking up to me now. But like as a freshman, 293 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 2: like you see Mac and it's like you don't make 294 00:13:10,640 --> 00:13:12,960 Speaker 2: a big number, Like he doesn't make a double bogie, 295 00:13:13,360 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 2: Like he makes a bogie at worst. And that's something 296 00:13:15,720 --> 00:13:19,000 Speaker 2: like you talk about how I'm like a race car driver, like, yeah, 297 00:13:19,000 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: I can make seven birdies around, but I can make 298 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:22,400 Speaker 2: two triples and a bogie or something. 299 00:13:22,400 --> 00:13:24,000 Speaker 1: You can crash the car, right, you can have the 300 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,120 Speaker 1: fastest lap in the race, be leading the race, and 301 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:29,960 Speaker 1: then just through. But I think a lot of that 302 00:13:30,040 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: no is you don't know what you don't know, right, 303 00:13:32,440 --> 00:13:36,480 Speaker 1: And so the learning curve, like you said your freshman year, 304 00:13:36,520 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: I think saying every tournament, qualifying for every tournament you've 305 00:13:40,800 --> 00:13:43,079 Speaker 1: got how many you're what four or five tournaments in 306 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 1: the fall, four or five tournaments in the spring, You've 307 00:13:45,840 --> 00:13:48,480 Speaker 1: got to go qualify for those? What's it for everybody 308 00:13:48,559 --> 00:13:52,959 Speaker 1: listening your college freshman, what's the qualifying process like for 309 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:55,840 Speaker 1: people that don't know, is a Division one college golfer? 310 00:13:56,200 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: Yeap. So for our first event on a fall, we'll 311 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:02,880 Speaker 2: do we did five rounds of qualifying, so play five rounds, 312 00:14:02,960 --> 00:14:05,720 Speaker 2: eighteen holes. Top three guys make it and it's two 313 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,960 Speaker 2: coaches picks. So yeah, won the qualifying this year by ten, 314 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:11,280 Speaker 2: So that was quite nice. 315 00:14:11,440 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: What you do last year in the first qualifier. 316 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:18,400 Speaker 2: They shot on a shoot. Last year I came second. 317 00:14:18,440 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 2: I shot fourteen hunder and lost by eleven. Yeah to 318 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:23,640 Speaker 2: mac so that was pretty good. 319 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: Was there a learning curve in playing the golf courses 320 00:14:26,480 --> 00:14:28,680 Speaker 1: your freshman year, because obviously you're going to be playing 321 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 1: on maybe something You're lucky that you grew up kind 322 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 1: of in Naples. You grew up on good golf courses, 323 00:14:34,600 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 1: but still you're going to be going from that jump 324 00:14:36,880 --> 00:14:39,440 Speaker 1: from high school golf to and junior golf to college golf. 325 00:14:39,440 --> 00:14:42,160 Speaker 1: The golf courses are going to be longer, they're going 326 00:14:42,200 --> 00:14:44,240 Speaker 1: to be more difficult, They're going to tuck the pins. 327 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 1: What do you feel like your freshman year at the 328 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,360 Speaker 1: University of Iowa that you learned from yourself, that you 329 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 1: learned from your teammates, but more importantly, what you learn 330 00:14:53,760 --> 00:14:55,360 Speaker 1: from your coaches at Iowa. 331 00:14:55,880 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like everybody in junior golf, 332 00:14:58,200 --> 00:14:59,760 Speaker 2: and I mean I can attest to it because I 333 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:02,360 Speaker 2: know how I was. I mean, you think your prime 334 00:15:02,440 --> 00:15:05,240 Speaker 2: Tiger Woods in nineteen ninety nine and you see a pen, 335 00:15:05,360 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 2: you fire at the pin and you hope it's really close. 336 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 2: And you get to college and the pins are three off, 337 00:15:12,200 --> 00:15:15,640 Speaker 2: the corners above ridges, the greens are firm. Every course 338 00:15:15,680 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: you play in college golf is good at the Division 339 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 2: one level. Every single golf course you're gonna play is 340 00:15:20,360 --> 00:15:22,640 Speaker 2: gonna be good, and it's gonna they're gonna make it 341 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:24,600 Speaker 2: as hard as you can. I feel like the thing 342 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 2: that I've taken in for my coaches, especially from you, 343 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:31,440 Speaker 2: is like you have to pick and choose your points 344 00:15:31,440 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 2: and when to use my speed and when to use 345 00:15:33,760 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 2: my talent that I'm lucky enough to have, and I 346 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 2: work really hard to keep it and get it better 347 00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 2: and better and better to where I want to go. 348 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,600 Speaker 2: And it's like if the pick and choose your spots, 349 00:15:41,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: I feel like you told me one time. We're talking 350 00:15:43,960 --> 00:15:46,720 Speaker 2: about Brooks like asking how many flagsticks and a major 351 00:15:46,840 --> 00:15:48,800 Speaker 2: championship he aims at and I think you said for 352 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,280 Speaker 2: four rounds. It was something like four and four rounds. 353 00:15:51,480 --> 00:15:53,360 Speaker 1: He just doesn't do it that all state. And I 354 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:58,040 Speaker 1: think you know, certainly, but that's something that no one 355 00:15:58,080 --> 00:16:00,760 Speaker 1: can tell you, right. I mean I can sit here, 356 00:16:00,880 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: no matter how many good players that I've worked with, 357 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:07,600 Speaker 1: no matter how much information I can give you, it's 358 00:16:07,600 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: still you as the player, having to go out and 359 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 1: make those mistakes yourself. Do you feel like you've learned 360 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 1: from the experiences that you had that freshman year of 361 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 1: college that you feel like are starting to become kind 362 00:16:24,240 --> 00:16:26,720 Speaker 1: of I don't want to say non negotiables for you, 363 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: but I think you have a better understanding of how 364 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 1: to play the game. But like you said, when you're 365 00:16:31,720 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: a junior, you can get by I think on being long, right, 366 00:16:35,840 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: I mean when you were in high school. I mean, 367 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:40,200 Speaker 1: how much further past everybody on your high school team? 368 00:16:40,200 --> 00:16:41,360 Speaker 1: Are you hitting it? One hundred? 369 00:16:41,760 --> 00:16:43,400 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's pretty it's a long way. 370 00:16:43,800 --> 00:16:47,680 Speaker 1: Yeah. So you get to Iowa. What's a typical week 371 00:16:47,800 --> 00:16:51,520 Speaker 1: for you at Iowa? Like in season? Right, So obviously 372 00:16:51,560 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 1: you're going to class Monday, through Friday, but from a 373 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: from a golf standpoint, because I think it's a good 374 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: insight for a lot of people listening, maybe that are 375 00:16:59,120 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: thinking about trying to play competitively, maybe their junior or 376 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: they have you know, we've got parents listening. So what's 377 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:08,600 Speaker 1: a typical week like for you? Talk me through last week? 378 00:17:08,640 --> 00:17:12,000 Speaker 1: You get to Iowa Monday, Talk me through Monday through 379 00:17:12,040 --> 00:17:12,960 Speaker 1: Friday of last week. 380 00:17:13,240 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, so leading the tournament will lift three days a week, 381 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 2: concluding another day before we leave, like kind of like 382 00:17:19,680 --> 00:17:23,040 Speaker 2: a primer getting ready. So last week Monday, we don't 383 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 2: have LYFT, but we have practice structured practice from two 384 00:17:26,320 --> 00:17:28,480 Speaker 2: to five. You can do whatever you want. So I'm 385 00:17:28,480 --> 00:17:31,640 Speaker 2: pretty much out there at a like eleven thirty eleven, 386 00:17:31,800 --> 00:17:34,040 Speaker 2: getting my work in before practice and doing a structure. 387 00:17:34,160 --> 00:17:37,760 Speaker 2: Tuesday we have LYFT six thirty to seven thirty, which 388 00:17:37,800 --> 00:17:40,800 Speaker 2: also happens on Thursday and Friday in the morning in 389 00:17:40,840 --> 00:17:44,080 Speaker 2: the morning, and then you'll have class and then structured 390 00:17:44,119 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: practice again pretty much every day. Structured practice will be 391 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:48,720 Speaker 2: at two o'clock, two to five o'clock. Just that's the 392 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 2: best for us. But I'm always out there early trying 393 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 2: to get in work before everybody. I'm lucky enough to 394 00:17:53,960 --> 00:17:57,400 Speaker 2: where I don't have class Thursday and Friday. I'd take 395 00:17:57,440 --> 00:18:00,440 Speaker 2: some online classes so I can allow myself to practice 396 00:18:00,440 --> 00:18:02,560 Speaker 2: little more. So I mean Thursday and Friday for me, 397 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:03,879 Speaker 2: if I'm done with the left and I got my 398 00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 2: homework done, I'll be at the golf course for eight hours. 399 00:18:06,320 --> 00:18:08,520 Speaker 2: Just you gotta take advantage of the good weather. I 400 00:18:08,560 --> 00:18:09,840 Speaker 2: got it, so you know. 401 00:18:09,880 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 1: I talked to Chris Venturo, who's a member at the Floridian. 402 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:15,600 Speaker 1: He and Victor Hovelin are both They both just kept 403 00:18:15,640 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: on playing the Olympics Fornary, but they were part of 404 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,640 Speaker 1: that national championship team with Matt Wolfe at Oklahoma State. 405 00:18:20,680 --> 00:18:23,280 Speaker 1: And when I talked to Chris about what he did 406 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,560 Speaker 1: in college, he said that Wolfie, Bobby and Chris, he 407 00:18:27,600 --> 00:18:31,160 Speaker 1: said they just played way more than they practiced. How 408 00:18:31,160 --> 00:18:34,679 Speaker 1: are you finding that balance between how much you play 409 00:18:35,640 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: versus how much you're practicing your technique and that kind 410 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: of blending of the two, because that's again, that is 411 00:18:42,800 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: that is hard to do, right because you think the 412 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: way you're going to get better is just practice, practice, practice, practice. 413 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,760 Speaker 1: Are you finding that playing and seeing what happens on 414 00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:57,159 Speaker 1: the golf course is becoming more of a priority or 415 00:18:57,440 --> 00:18:59,920 Speaker 1: you locked into kind of what you're doing technique wise. 416 00:19:00,480 --> 00:19:03,719 Speaker 2: No, I don't really spend that like, to be completely honest, 417 00:19:04,320 --> 00:19:06,639 Speaker 2: I kind of limit myself, Like I'll give myself like 418 00:19:06,680 --> 00:19:08,639 Speaker 2: a thirty minute time period on the range where it's 419 00:19:08,680 --> 00:19:10,679 Speaker 2: like okay, like I'm gonna do like technique stuff and 420 00:19:10,760 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 2: check my stuff to make sure everything's good. But it's 421 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: like I've had this talk with my teammates. I'm a 422 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:17,800 Speaker 2: captain this year, and I tell them it's like, yeah, 423 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:19,399 Speaker 2: it's like cool. You can make a five footer on 424 00:19:19,440 --> 00:19:21,240 Speaker 2: a putting green or a fifteen footer, or you can 425 00:19:21,280 --> 00:19:23,680 Speaker 2: get a draw in a range. I'm a big believer 426 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,640 Speaker 2: in you gotta do it on the golf course too, 427 00:19:26,080 --> 00:19:27,760 Speaker 2: Like can you hit a driver down a twenty yard 428 00:19:27,760 --> 00:19:30,280 Speaker 2: wide fairway? Can you to seven iron from however far 429 00:19:30,400 --> 00:19:32,400 Speaker 2: to this pin? I feel like the only way you're 430 00:19:32,400 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: gonna learn is by getting a ball in the actual hole, 431 00:19:34,800 --> 00:19:37,760 Speaker 2: not getting in a putting green. Cup. So I play 432 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:39,120 Speaker 2: every single day that I can. 433 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:41,480 Speaker 1: With your teammates, do you guys play matches? Are you 434 00:19:41,560 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 1: always playing for something or do you guys just kind 435 00:19:43,960 --> 00:19:45,320 Speaker 1: of go out and kind of freewheel it. 436 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:47,680 Speaker 2: No, So like today, me and two other guys on 437 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: the team went up and played banker. So that was fun. 438 00:19:51,040 --> 00:19:53,320 Speaker 1: Okay, So what is I don't even know what banker is. 439 00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 2: So there's three guys. Uh, one guy's banker. It's individual matches. 440 00:19:58,000 --> 00:20:00,800 Speaker 2: So it's me, Ryan and Josh to my teammates. So 441 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,400 Speaker 2: banker hits last. You play like a five dollar match 442 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:07,399 Speaker 2: versus everybody on that hole, and yes, it's me versus Ryan, 443 00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:11,080 Speaker 2: then Josh rous May and banker. He can press the banker, 444 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:15,160 Speaker 2: but if the banker presses, you have to press both people. So, yeah, 445 00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,280 Speaker 2: you win today, I actually lost. That was kind of embarrassing. 446 00:20:21,680 --> 00:20:24,400 Speaker 1: Let's get to I alluded to. It was a hell 447 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: of a summer for you. Cup, which is one of 448 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:31,119 Speaker 1: the big kind of amateur golf tournaments. Everybody Brooks has 449 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 1: played in it. Everybody's played in it. Again, that's a 450 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:35,679 Speaker 1: trophy that when you look at the names on that 451 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,000 Speaker 1: and you look at the entry list of players that 452 00:20:38,040 --> 00:20:40,960 Speaker 1: have played in I think everybody that's played Division one 453 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: college golf. There are a lot of people playing all 454 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,359 Speaker 1: over the world on various tours. They've all played in 455 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: the Porter Cup, you finished second. Did that kind of 456 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 1: give you a little bit of boosting confidence coming off 457 00:20:52,000 --> 00:20:54,440 Speaker 1: of a really solid freshman year at Iowa to where 458 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:57,680 Speaker 1: you went, Okay, I've got some big tournaments to play in, 459 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,720 Speaker 1: you know, the USAMBI and one of them. Did you 460 00:20:59,760 --> 00:21:02,879 Speaker 1: feel after finishing second at the Porter Cup that it 461 00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,240 Speaker 1: could be a springboard and give you that kind of 462 00:21:05,240 --> 00:21:08,439 Speaker 1: confidence in your game and take it to a big, big, 463 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,840 Speaker 1: the biggest tournament you've ever played in, which is the USAM. Yeah. 464 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,560 Speaker 2: So I feel like the thing I learned without myself 465 00:21:14,600 --> 00:21:16,280 Speaker 2: that week is I didn't think a bogie on the 466 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:17,679 Speaker 2: back nine the whole entire tournament. 467 00:21:18,200 --> 00:21:18,639 Speaker 1: That helps. 468 00:21:18,720 --> 00:21:22,000 Speaker 2: So, I mean I closed really well, sixty seven sixty seven, 469 00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:24,800 Speaker 2: sixty seven sixty nine. I mean, I lost my a shot, 470 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:28,240 Speaker 2: but you know, it stinks to lose. But I learned 471 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:30,040 Speaker 2: for myself that I can fire four rounds in our 472 00:21:30,000 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: own a sixties. And granted didn't close the tournament the 473 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:33,960 Speaker 2: way I wanted to, but I learned that I can 474 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:36,639 Speaker 2: put it together in a big tournament. Is actually funny. 475 00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:40,199 Speaker 2: So I wasn't qualified for the USAM before that tournament. 476 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:41,080 Speaker 1: You had to go qualify. 477 00:21:41,160 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 2: I drove down five hours that night to another place 478 00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:46,679 Speaker 2: in New York, play a practice round, and qualify the 479 00:21:46,720 --> 00:21:50,280 Speaker 2: next day, which you shooting the qualifier sixty seven medalists. 480 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,520 Speaker 1: I actually think that that actually helps. Right. You come 481 00:21:53,520 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 1: off of a big finish for you, probably the biggest 482 00:21:56,240 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: finish you've had in a big amateur tournament, and you 483 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: still have to go qualify for the US. And let's 484 00:22:02,440 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: tell everybody the story about you qualified for the US 485 00:22:05,000 --> 00:22:08,800 Speaker 1: Junior last year, which was the kind of the biggest 486 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: tournament that you played in. Tell everybody what your prep 487 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:15,000 Speaker 1: was for the US Junior and why you didn't play 488 00:22:15,040 --> 00:22:16,520 Speaker 1: in the US Junior last summer. 489 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 2: Yeap qualified for the s Junior, which was. 490 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:22,360 Speaker 1: A huge goal of yours, right, I mean that's. 491 00:22:22,200 --> 00:22:26,040 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, qualified for it, qumongous conference booster, like a 492 00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 2: big sy relief. Go to the Southern Junior, come third, 493 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 2: go to the Western Junior, finished runner up, and then 494 00:22:31,480 --> 00:22:34,200 Speaker 2: four days later I fell off an ATV and broke 495 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:34,640 Speaker 2: my wrist. 496 00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:38,119 Speaker 1: You thought it would be a good idea after coming 497 00:22:38,119 --> 00:22:40,840 Speaker 1: off two of your best finishes as a junior. You've 498 00:22:40,880 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 1: got your biggest junior tournament you've ever played, and you 499 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 1: thought it'd be good to get on some sort of 500 00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:48,439 Speaker 1: motorcycle out in the middle of the trees and gost 501 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,720 Speaker 1: around and mess shit up and fracture your wrist. 502 00:22:52,000 --> 00:22:52,440 Speaker 2: Yeah. 503 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:54,160 Speaker 1: How many How many weeks out were you? 504 00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:56,399 Speaker 2: They told me four? So I was kind of hopeful 505 00:22:56,400 --> 00:22:59,120 Speaker 2: I was gonna be able to play and it took eleven. 506 00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:02,960 Speaker 1: Eleven that injury. What I tell you, I told you no. 507 00:23:02,960 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: No athlete comes back from an injury too late, right, 508 00:23:06,560 --> 00:23:09,480 Speaker 1: everybody tries to come back too early. Yeah, we're joking 509 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: about it because I know you were devastated by that. 510 00:23:12,680 --> 00:23:17,040 Speaker 1: What in missing out on that US Junior do mentally 511 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: for you? Did you get down on yourself or did 512 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,359 Speaker 1: you use it as on a fuel and say, Okay, 513 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,680 Speaker 1: I had an opportunity here to play in the US Junior. 514 00:23:25,000 --> 00:23:26,520 Speaker 1: Whatever happened happened. 515 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,880 Speaker 2: I feel like in the moment, you're kind of like, 516 00:23:30,200 --> 00:23:32,480 Speaker 2: oh God, Like what did you do? Like this is 517 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:34,240 Speaker 2: the biggest moment your junior career and you're playing super 518 00:23:34,280 --> 00:23:36,159 Speaker 2: good and you messed it up? Like and talking to 519 00:23:36,200 --> 00:23:38,080 Speaker 2: all my friends. One of my best friends from back home, 520 00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:39,639 Speaker 2: he qualified for the one out at Bandon and I 521 00:23:39,680 --> 00:23:42,119 Speaker 2: really wanted to do it. I didn't qualify. So I 522 00:23:42,119 --> 00:23:44,679 Speaker 2: feel like after it happened, like I'm in a like 523 00:23:44,720 --> 00:23:47,359 Speaker 2: a brace and I can't do anything and I have 524 00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:49,320 Speaker 2: to learn how to do everything left handed. It made 525 00:23:49,320 --> 00:23:52,960 Speaker 2: me like more hungry and put more of an emphasis 526 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:57,000 Speaker 2: on qualifying for the us AM. So I feel like 527 00:23:57,040 --> 00:23:59,280 Speaker 2: it was almost a blessing in disguise because I really 528 00:23:59,320 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 2: loved golf. But I feel like after that happened, I 529 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 2: feel like it made me want it more and realize 530 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:06,600 Speaker 2: what I can do with qualify. 531 00:24:06,720 --> 00:24:10,720 Speaker 1: Sixty seven, the US Amateur Hazel Team US won a 532 00:24:10,800 --> 00:24:14,760 Speaker 1: Ryder Cup there. I mean Tiger Waite Yang, I mean 533 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,440 Speaker 1: they went down the stretch. I mean. It is a 534 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,959 Speaker 1: big time golf course. It has a major championship pedigree. 535 00:24:20,320 --> 00:24:22,640 Speaker 1: Three hundred and twelve players. Did you know that three 536 00:24:22,720 --> 00:24:27,639 Speaker 1: hundred and twelve players start? Yeah, there's two rounds in qualifying. 537 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 1: You got off to a fantastic start in the qualifier 538 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:33,200 Speaker 1: through a little opening round seventy seven at them in 539 00:24:33,240 --> 00:24:35,960 Speaker 1: the qualifier, and there's two courses. You shot seventy seven 540 00:24:36,040 --> 00:24:38,600 Speaker 1: on the Big Course, yep. And then there's always two 541 00:24:38,600 --> 00:24:42,000 Speaker 1: courses for the USAM there's one they do one round 542 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 1: on the Big Course. And then you do one on 543 00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: kind of a satellite course. So you know, going to 544 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:50,440 Speaker 1: the second qualifying round, you basically got to shoot zero. Yeah, 545 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:53,359 Speaker 1: you know, the only way you're going to have a 546 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,040 Speaker 1: chance to qualify for the USAM is to shoot something 547 00:24:56,800 --> 00:24:59,720 Speaker 1: in the sixties. What was your goal? You figured you'd 548 00:24:59,720 --> 00:25:01,600 Speaker 1: probably you need to go out shoot sixty six. 549 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:05,040 Speaker 2: No, I knew I needed sixty four or sixty three. 550 00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 1: So you knew you needed sixty four. Yeah. 551 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 2: It was great too, because I haven't made a birdie 552 00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:11,159 Speaker 2: in eighteen holes, and I need to make birdies, so 553 00:25:11,200 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 2: that was a little helpful. That was helpful. 554 00:25:13,320 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: So yeah, how many birdies did you make in the 555 00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:19,520 Speaker 1: second round? Six six? Yeah, big confidence booster I think 556 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,920 Speaker 1: for you to get through that, because I think you 557 00:25:20,920 --> 00:25:26,600 Speaker 1: would have been just destroyed to get to USAM after everything. Yeah, 558 00:25:26,640 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: you know, after qualifying, after coming off the Porter Cup. 559 00:25:30,160 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 2: That was probably the best round of golf I have 560 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: played in a circumstantial condition. Like I opened the around 561 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:43,239 Speaker 2: thirty on the front nine, just hot, just hot, and 562 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: I go in, I get to the front nine, I'm like, 563 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,880 Speaker 2: I'm gonna shoot fifty nine and I make I think 564 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:50,440 Speaker 2: part of the first five holes in a row in 565 00:25:50,520 --> 00:25:53,399 Speaker 2: the back nine, and this is actually really funny. So 566 00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 2: I asked my caddy, like, pulled the leaderboard, like where 567 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 2: are we standing? He checked in on the back nine 568 00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:01,600 Speaker 2: which I started, which was my front nine, and it 569 00:26:01,680 --> 00:26:04,640 Speaker 2: didn't update, so it showed me two back of where 570 00:26:04,640 --> 00:26:06,800 Speaker 2: I needed to be going in the sixth hole, and 571 00:26:06,840 --> 00:26:08,760 Speaker 2: I chipped in from across the green on a par 572 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,560 Speaker 2: three and I hit it to eight feet on my 573 00:26:11,680 --> 00:26:13,920 Speaker 2: sixteenth hole and missed it. Hit it to five feet 574 00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 2: on my seventeenth hole and missed it in three, putted 575 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 2: apar five, which is my last hole on nine, and 576 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:21,959 Speaker 2: I'm like, oh my god, like I just choked. I 577 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:22,600 Speaker 2: just choked. 578 00:26:22,800 --> 00:26:26,120 Speaker 1: And you're knocking the flag down with the last three 579 00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,919 Speaker 1: holes and you're getting uping out of it. No. 580 00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,479 Speaker 2: And then I update my phone and my my mom's 581 00:26:31,560 --> 00:26:34,400 Speaker 2: going nuts and I look at my phone, like what's 582 00:26:34,440 --> 00:26:36,360 Speaker 2: going on? Like I missed it by one. I look 583 00:26:36,359 --> 00:26:38,040 Speaker 2: at my phone. It shows him in forty first only 584 00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,119 Speaker 2: Oh my god, like I did it, Like holy crap. 585 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: So now you get to the round of sixty four, 586 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:45,040 Speaker 1: so it's match play. You win your first match and 587 00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 1: not to play four and two go to the round 588 00:26:46,840 --> 00:26:49,960 Speaker 1: to thirty two, two and one, get to the quarters. 589 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:53,840 Speaker 1: Are the round of sixteen four and two quarters, three 590 00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:57,080 Speaker 1: and two. Let's go to the semifinals. So you get 591 00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:01,320 Speaker 1: paired up against Jackson Buchanan. He's stud He's at the 592 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,760 Speaker 1: University of Illinois, which is in the Big ten, so 593 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,600 Speaker 1: he's a rival. He beat Preston Summer Hayes won the 594 00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:09,399 Speaker 1: US Junior I mean, that kid's stud. He's at Arizona State. 595 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: He beats the number one ranked amateur in the world, 596 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: Luke Clanton, who's basically kicking the shit out of people 597 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:22,040 Speaker 1: on the PGA Tour, and you beat him two up. 598 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,440 Speaker 1: Talk us through that match, I mean at that point 599 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,399 Speaker 1: was your confidence through the roof? Where you trying to 600 00:27:29,440 --> 00:27:32,840 Speaker 1: stay in the moment because obviously you come in with 601 00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,080 Speaker 1: nobody even picking you, right, They're picking Luke Clanton to 602 00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: win missing right. He's making cut some PGA Tour events. 603 00:27:38,840 --> 00:27:42,000 Speaker 1: He's in second to last group of PJ Tour events. 604 00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:45,120 Speaker 1: I mean, you're not one of the favorites, right, You're 605 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,959 Speaker 1: beating some of the favorites to get to the final. 606 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:51,840 Speaker 1: How did you ride that wave of kind of good 607 00:27:51,920 --> 00:27:54,200 Speaker 1: play and kind of get out of your own way 608 00:27:54,240 --> 00:27:57,359 Speaker 1: because sometimes you know I've told you this in the past. 609 00:27:57,400 --> 00:27:59,879 Speaker 1: I think you always have to be ready for the wave, 610 00:28:00,880 --> 00:28:04,760 Speaker 1: because the wave will come right. Things will come in waves, 611 00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,439 Speaker 1: and when you get the right wave, you gotta have 612 00:28:07,480 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 1: the guts to get up and ride it. You qualify, 613 00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,600 Speaker 1: you shoot a really low round. Did you just feel 614 00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:17,320 Speaker 1: like from then, Okay, I got nothing to lose. Now, 615 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,800 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna go see how good I can be 616 00:28:19,880 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: here and see how far I can get. 617 00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I feel like once I made match play, I 618 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:26,119 Speaker 2: feel like it just plays into my hands more. I 619 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,800 Speaker 2: mean you say, I'm like an F one car, I'm fast. 620 00:28:28,840 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 2: I make a ton of birdies. You can kind of 621 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,840 Speaker 2: forget about the double you make. And I mean I 622 00:28:32,880 --> 00:28:35,000 Speaker 2: played awesome golf. I mean, you can win a match 623 00:28:35,040 --> 00:28:36,240 Speaker 2: a match play. So it's like I got through the 624 00:28:36,320 --> 00:28:38,680 Speaker 2: round of sixty four and it's kind of like, oh, like, yeah, 625 00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:41,320 Speaker 2: I want to match thirty two one again, which is 626 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,800 Speaker 2: actually a hard match that's a great fight, and round 627 00:28:43,840 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 2: of sixteen. I feel like in my quarterfinal match, I 628 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 2: showed like a lot of guts and like a lot 629 00:28:48,320 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 2: of like what you're saying, like ride the wave. I 630 00:28:49,640 --> 00:28:51,800 Speaker 2: think I was eight under through twelve in my quarter 631 00:28:51,840 --> 00:28:54,600 Speaker 2: final match or something like that, and I got against Jackson. 632 00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 2: You like, look at who's being beat press and you 633 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,080 Speaker 2: beat Luke that week, I'm like, okay, like you gotta 634 00:28:58,080 --> 00:28:59,880 Speaker 2: get ready for like a dog fight, like who's gonna 635 00:28:59,880 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 2: wan on it more? And you know, I feel like 636 00:29:02,560 --> 00:29:04,360 Speaker 2: going into the round, he kind of handed me a 637 00:29:04,440 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 2: couple shots early and I got up late. But you know, 638 00:29:08,880 --> 00:29:10,640 Speaker 2: I just I feel like I wanted it more than 639 00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:12,920 Speaker 2: everybody else there that league. Once I finally got what 640 00:29:13,000 --> 00:29:15,840 Speaker 2: it tastes, the success felt like and talked to my caddy. 641 00:29:15,920 --> 00:29:17,640 Speaker 2: I mean, I think I hit one of the most 642 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,760 Speaker 2: clutch shots in my life on the eighteenth hole in 643 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:21,600 Speaker 2: that match, like to step up. 644 00:29:21,960 --> 00:29:24,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean that's the hero shot. The clutch shot 645 00:29:25,000 --> 00:29:27,280 Speaker 1: that you hit was to stand up on the eighteenth 646 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:30,640 Speaker 1: pole at Hazel Team, where if you missed that fair 647 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:32,680 Speaker 1: away you hit it in either of the bunkers, you're 648 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,320 Speaker 1: probably not making berdie. You know, I was messaging with 649 00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:38,680 Speaker 1: your sports psychologist, doctor Brett mckable I've had on the 650 00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:41,440 Speaker 1: podcast before. We were messaging when you were on the 651 00:29:41,440 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: eighteenth going to the att and I was messaging some 652 00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,200 Speaker 1: other people that were watching, and I was like, there 653 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,560 Speaker 1: are times in every round of golf, but in every 654 00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: tournament to where there is no other option other than 655 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:54,560 Speaker 1: you just have to stand up and hit a great shot. 656 00:29:54,600 --> 00:29:57,600 Speaker 1: It's a little bit like playing football, basketball, whatever other sports. 657 00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: Sometimes you just have to stand up and make a play. 658 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: So what were your nerves going like? Because I thought, 659 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,440 Speaker 1: you know, you guys had a really good fight. Ear 660 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:07,280 Speaker 1: Jackson in that semifinal match. You could have closed it 661 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:10,680 Speaker 1: out on seventeen. He pulled it on seventeen, pinned was 662 00:30:10,720 --> 00:30:14,640 Speaker 1: back left almost wet in the water. Another big part 663 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:17,800 Speaker 1: of that match, that semifinal match, was it on fifteen 664 00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:18,400 Speaker 1: to where. 665 00:30:18,480 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 2: Oh I was literally going to talk about that. 666 00:30:20,440 --> 00:30:23,040 Speaker 1: Yeah, so yeah, talk us through the fifteenth hole part five? 667 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:28,280 Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, So I think he hits first and he 668 00:30:28,440 --> 00:30:30,360 Speaker 2: just like quick sniped it off the tee, but he 669 00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:33,239 Speaker 2: got firing like left's find another hole. And you know 670 00:30:33,320 --> 00:30:35,480 Speaker 2: that's a hard t ball for me. When does in 671 00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:37,880 Speaker 2: and off the left and there's obi right, I'm like, 672 00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 2: oh god, so I hit the fairway and I'm like okay, 673 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:45,440 Speaker 2: like he's in trouble. He laid it up in the rough. 674 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure, maybe it was in the fair. I 675 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 2: can't remember. I had three hundred yards. I'm like, if 676 00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:51,680 Speaker 2: I had a good Mini driver, like, it's gonna get 677 00:30:51,720 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 2: up there and I can put this then away, chun 678 00:30:53,920 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 2: cook it in the left rough and yeah. Then he 679 00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:59,320 Speaker 2: hits a ledge up there to like twenty feet and 680 00:30:59,360 --> 00:31:01,760 Speaker 2: he's probably thinking, and he's fine, I have the worst 681 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:03,760 Speaker 2: lie I've ever seen in my life from like seventy 682 00:31:03,760 --> 00:31:07,160 Speaker 2: five yards and I hit this like high, like soft, 683 00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 2: like saw it come on. I'm like, oh my god, 684 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,120 Speaker 2: like it's so good. It lands like perfectly in the 685 00:31:11,120 --> 00:31:13,640 Speaker 2: slope and I hit it inside of him, and then 686 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:14,920 Speaker 2: he stepped up there and made it. 687 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,680 Speaker 1: You've hit it to like fifteen feet right, yeah, which 688 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 1: based off of the lie you had when you hit 689 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,840 Speaker 1: that shot, I'm like, wow, that is a hell of 690 00:31:22,880 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: a shot, right. And in match play, there's always parts 691 00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:29,960 Speaker 1: in the match like this, right, there are these kind 692 00:31:30,000 --> 00:31:34,360 Speaker 1: of opportunities where it looks like your gown looks like 693 00:31:34,400 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: you don't have the advantage. And then so he hoops 694 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:39,680 Speaker 1: it from twenty feet right for birdie. 695 00:31:39,800 --> 00:31:41,960 Speaker 2: So he hoops it and I'm only one up at 696 00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 2: the time, so I'm like thinking to myself. This is 697 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 2: when it like started like really running through my head, 698 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:49,080 Speaker 2: like okay, like shit, like it's gonna be like all square, 699 00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,720 Speaker 2: like going to sixteen and I like look at this 700 00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,200 Speaker 2: putt and I'm like I had like a weird like 701 00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,280 Speaker 2: sudden like calmness like over I'm like, oh, it's gonna 702 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 2: go in. And I get up and it's like like 703 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,760 Speaker 2: seven of the like fifteen feet there. I'm like, oh, 704 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:02,280 Speaker 2: I made it, and like as soon as it went 705 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:03,640 Speaker 2: over the edge, I like gave it like a big 706 00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 2: fist pump and I like kind of like, yeah, they 707 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 2: hit it in the water. On sixteen, I was two 708 00:32:08,560 --> 00:32:10,320 Speaker 2: up with two to play. That was the most nervous 709 00:32:10,360 --> 00:32:12,200 Speaker 2: I've ever been. Is actually on seven, I wasn't nervous. 710 00:32:12,240 --> 00:32:13,360 Speaker 2: On eighteen it was really weird. 711 00:32:13,840 --> 00:32:16,480 Speaker 1: I mean seventeen, you know, there's water left, and for 712 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:20,520 Speaker 1: people listening, the seventeen Hazel team is where Rory and 713 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: Patrick Reed and the ryder cop. Rory makes this massive 714 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,400 Speaker 1: long pot at the par three there's more huge grand 715 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 1: stands there and does the kind of I can't hear 716 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,600 Speaker 1: you thing, I can't hear you, and then pet Reed 717 00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:34,400 Speaker 1: kind of makes one from twenty feet right on top 718 00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,920 Speaker 1: of him and does the finger and the whole thing. 719 00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: How did you deal with the pressure on seventeen? Knowing 720 00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 1: where that pin was, which was back left when it 721 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:44,160 Speaker 1: was in the air, do you think you hit it 722 00:32:44,240 --> 00:32:44,640 Speaker 1: in the water. 723 00:32:45,000 --> 00:32:46,240 Speaker 2: I didn't think I hit it in the water. I 724 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:47,680 Speaker 2: thought maybe there's a chance I was going to catch 725 00:32:47,760 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: the left edge. I was just happy I made contact 726 00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:53,280 Speaker 2: with the golf ball. To be completely honest, I mean 727 00:32:53,280 --> 00:32:55,040 Speaker 2: I am legit like on the T box, like I've 728 00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:56,880 Speaker 2: never thought about it in my life. It is the 729 00:32:56,880 --> 00:32:59,680 Speaker 2: first time, like the Masters, like cross like the top 730 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:02,240 Speaker 2: of my head, and I think I like I wasn't 731 00:33:02,280 --> 00:33:04,800 Speaker 2: ready to go, Like my hands are like shaking, like 732 00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:07,120 Speaker 2: I'm drinking like a bottle of gatorade. I'm like talking 733 00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: to my caddy. I'm like, dude, like I can't swing 734 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:12,520 Speaker 2: right now. And I do it and it stayed up 735 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 2: and he had a dart like what I was thinking. 736 00:33:14,560 --> 00:33:16,440 Speaker 2: I'm like, okay, like he's not getting at a bad shot, 737 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,480 Speaker 2: and you know I flubbed my chip, didn't chip it in. 738 00:33:19,560 --> 00:33:21,560 Speaker 2: I'm like okay, like I'm gonna make four. Like he's 739 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,440 Speaker 2: got like a twelve foot or dead down the hill. 740 00:33:23,840 --> 00:33:25,040 Speaker 2: I'm not going to give it to him. He can 741 00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,520 Speaker 2: still hit it by he made it. I'm like, okay, 742 00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:31,560 Speaker 2: like great, like he just made burry Like he feels good. 743 00:33:31,760 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 1: So how far it's the eighteen pole? 744 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:36,560 Speaker 2: I think it's is it for eighty or is it 745 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 2: it's four seventy or four eighty something like. 746 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,520 Speaker 1: That, But it's the shot. It's uphill, yeah, all the 747 00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:42,880 Speaker 1: way up home. Mean you can't even I mean you're 748 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:44,720 Speaker 1: standing on the tea box there. You can't even. I'm 749 00:33:44,720 --> 00:33:45,760 Speaker 1: close to seeing the green. 750 00:33:46,560 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 2: You can see like where everybody's standing, but you can 751 00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:51,760 Speaker 2: just see the top of the landing area. That's about it. 752 00:33:51,960 --> 00:33:53,880 Speaker 1: So what's that mental self too? Because it's actually a 753 00:33:53,880 --> 00:33:56,720 Speaker 1: pretty good walk from seventeen all the way over to 754 00:33:56,720 --> 00:33:58,959 Speaker 1: the eighteenth pole. I mean it's it's not close. I mean, 755 00:33:59,160 --> 00:34:00,920 Speaker 1: I mean you've got time to think. It's not like 756 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,000 Speaker 1: the t boxes right off the seventeenth grade. What were 757 00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,320 Speaker 1: you saying to yourself? What'd your caddies say to you? 758 00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,160 Speaker 1: And what was the thought process standing up there? 759 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 2: I feel like he gave me a little bit of 760 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:12,720 Speaker 2: space once I got off the hole. He's like, okay, 761 00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: like let him calm down. He was actually the guy 762 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:17,200 Speaker 2: that caddy for me in the Porter Cup, so I 763 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:19,920 Speaker 2: brought him with me to Minnesota and he's kind of 764 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:21,399 Speaker 2: had this saying with me, it's like it's a one 765 00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:23,640 Speaker 2: hole match, one whole match, Like forget about it, dude, 766 00:34:23,640 --> 00:34:26,040 Speaker 2: Like it doesn't matter, like it's in the past. So 767 00:34:26,160 --> 00:34:28,560 Speaker 2: got up to the eighteenth t you know, kind of 768 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:30,680 Speaker 2: was just like it's time to just hit a shot. 769 00:34:30,760 --> 00:34:32,680 Speaker 2: Like how He's like, how bad do you like really 770 00:34:32,760 --> 00:34:34,359 Speaker 2: want it? Like do you want it bad? 771 00:34:34,520 --> 00:34:34,560 Speaker 1: No? 772 00:34:34,800 --> 00:34:37,080 Speaker 2: And I'm like, yeah, I really really want it. And 773 00:34:37,719 --> 00:34:41,000 Speaker 2: Jackson hit first, which I feel like is like you're 774 00:34:41,040 --> 00:34:43,279 Speaker 2: gonna know that there's pressure. But he hit a bat 775 00:34:43,280 --> 00:34:45,200 Speaker 2: He didn't hit his best drive in the left trap, 776 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:49,920 Speaker 2: and I got up there and for me, I loven't 777 00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,560 Speaker 2: and too off the right wind and it was perfectly 778 00:34:52,719 --> 00:34:54,799 Speaker 2: you get hold it up. Yeah, I'm just like, get 779 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,560 Speaker 2: it airborne with a cut and it's perfect. 780 00:34:56,680 --> 00:34:57,480 Speaker 1: What was the yardage? 781 00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 2: I had one hundred and eighty yards in from my 782 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,440 Speaker 2: second shot and then hit a chip seven after he 783 00:35:02,520 --> 00:35:04,799 Speaker 2: hit the lip of the bunker actually on a second. 784 00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:05,960 Speaker 1: Shot, which made it easier. 785 00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:07,960 Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm like, okay, like just hit it on the 786 00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,480 Speaker 2: Green please, and then yeah, hit it up there like 787 00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:13,360 Speaker 2: four feet and I'm like, oh, yeah, like you've probably 788 00:35:13,360 --> 00:35:15,480 Speaker 2: seen I like pimp Step that I knew what I did, like. 789 00:35:15,440 --> 00:35:18,080 Speaker 1: I did it, Like, oh, that's so good, and yeah, 790 00:35:18,320 --> 00:35:20,240 Speaker 1: is that kind of the first time that you really 791 00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:23,720 Speaker 1: kind of felt like a player? Yeah, like the people 792 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 1: you watch on television, right, I mean you've spent so 793 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:29,000 Speaker 1: much time as everybody does watching players on TV. You 794 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 1: watch all these guys down the stretch hit all these 795 00:35:31,200 --> 00:35:35,000 Speaker 1: great shots. You know Rory, you know, Scottie Scheffler, maximum, 796 00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: all these superstars that you watch that play all these 797 00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 1: big tournaments and stuff. Was that really kind of the 798 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:46,720 Speaker 1: first moment where you're like, dude, wow, I just did that. Yeah. 799 00:35:46,840 --> 00:35:49,400 Speaker 2: I feel like the first one I did was in 800 00:35:49,440 --> 00:35:52,200 Speaker 2: the quarterfinal match, the flopshot a hole. It was just stupid. 801 00:35:52,280 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: Oh that was a joke. 802 00:35:53,680 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 2: That was a joke. But yeah, I mean I look 803 00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:58,680 Speaker 2: back at it because I'm like on like the reels 804 00:35:58,760 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 2: or whatever with the USGN and Instagram, and I like, 805 00:36:00,840 --> 00:36:04,000 Speaker 2: I watch it back, I'm kind of like, damn, dude, 806 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:06,200 Speaker 2: I'm like, you were like buck. Then then they're like 807 00:36:06,239 --> 00:36:08,320 Speaker 2: that was Yeah, it was kind of crazy. 808 00:36:08,520 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: So now, obviously, you know when you get to the 809 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:12,600 Speaker 1: final of the US m you know you've got a 810 00:36:12,640 --> 00:36:15,520 Speaker 1: Birth of the Masters. You're going to the US Open, 811 00:36:15,760 --> 00:36:18,600 Speaker 1: which will be at Oakmont next year, which is an iconic, iconic, 812 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,360 Speaker 1: one of the hardest. Dude, if you're a played Oakmont, Yeah, 813 00:36:21,440 --> 00:36:23,160 Speaker 1: why do you play that in the US Open? Because 814 00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:25,839 Speaker 1: as hard as you think that golf course is, the 815 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:29,520 Speaker 1: time you played it, I mean you're talking like pie 816 00:36:29,640 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: are squared harder than what you've got Now, I sent 817 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,279 Speaker 1: you a message and said, the job isn't done. Still 818 00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:39,440 Speaker 1: gonna go win the tournament because only buy a scare 819 00:36:40,040 --> 00:36:43,680 Speaker 1: that kid's baller the kid's ball Yeah, yeah, great. I 820 00:36:43,719 --> 00:36:45,600 Speaker 1: was in Greenbrier and I was talking to John ram 821 00:36:45,600 --> 00:36:48,320 Speaker 1: about him, obviously because that would being from from Spain. 822 00:36:48,760 --> 00:36:51,319 Speaker 1: I was talking to Sergio, he works, Sergio's dad helps 823 00:36:51,400 --> 00:36:54,600 Speaker 1: him as well. They were like, I mean, John Robinson, dude, 824 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:57,359 Speaker 1: he beats me. I mean, he's he's going he hits 825 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,360 Speaker 1: it miles. You're you're not used to really playing with 826 00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:02,680 Speaker 1: people that he as far as you do, or hit 827 00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:06,160 Speaker 1: it further than you, and that kid can smoke it 828 00:37:06,239 --> 00:37:09,560 Speaker 1: off the tea. So what was the night before the 829 00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,239 Speaker 1: USAM Like, I mean, how did you prepare? What were 830 00:37:14,239 --> 00:37:16,240 Speaker 1: you thinking? Did you get a lot of sleep? 831 00:37:17,280 --> 00:37:19,760 Speaker 2: I slipped recently. I turned my phone on do not disturb. 832 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:23,120 Speaker 2: It was way too many text messages. I mean, me 833 00:37:23,160 --> 00:37:26,359 Speaker 2: and Mike Caddie played college football like we've been doing 834 00:37:26,400 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 2: every night. So just kind of like you treat it 835 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:29,600 Speaker 2: like a little bit like a normal night, like you 836 00:37:29,680 --> 00:37:31,600 Speaker 2: kind of just like sit back and have fun. And 837 00:37:31,640 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 2: we knew the job wasn't done, Like we never even 838 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:35,360 Speaker 2: talked about it really like what it would be like 839 00:37:35,440 --> 00:37:38,400 Speaker 2: to like host that trophy or whatever. And you know, 840 00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:40,440 Speaker 2: I got there in the morning, and you know, the 841 00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:42,480 Speaker 2: morning eighteen was a struggle for me. I mean I 842 00:37:42,480 --> 00:37:44,680 Speaker 2: didn't hit it good at all. I had a pounding 843 00:37:44,680 --> 00:37:47,040 Speaker 2: headache the whole entire round. Probably it was adrenaline. I 844 00:37:47,040 --> 00:37:50,240 Speaker 2: mean it was the first time in a tournament, even 845 00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 2: in these big amateur tournaments, Like you get nervous in 846 00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:54,080 Speaker 2: a final round with a chance to win. But like 847 00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 2: you see the trophy on the first tee. You have 848 00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,680 Speaker 2: Larry Fitzgerald who's standing right next to the first team, 849 00:38:00,680 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: who's there to just watch. 850 00:38:01,800 --> 00:38:03,040 Speaker 1: You NFL legend. 851 00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, and it's just like it kind of like really 852 00:38:05,640 --> 00:38:07,600 Speaker 2: hits you. It's like, oh my God, Like you know, 853 00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 2: like everything leading up to it means so much, but 854 00:38:09,840 --> 00:38:11,759 Speaker 2: it's like, now you have thirty six holes to fight 855 00:38:11,840 --> 00:38:13,720 Speaker 2: for your life and voice one of the biggest amateur 856 00:38:13,760 --> 00:38:17,400 Speaker 2: trophies in the world. And you know, I'm very proud 857 00:38:17,400 --> 00:38:20,040 Speaker 2: of myself for the way that I thought. 858 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,160 Speaker 1: Yeah, you're three so for people don't know, I mean 859 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:26,000 Speaker 1: you were three down through four holes. Yeah, you're four 860 00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: down after the eighteen holes. Yeah, there were big crowds 861 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 1: out there, obviously the Iowa connection being in the Midwest, 862 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,880 Speaker 1: were those some of the biggest crowds and some of 863 00:38:36,920 --> 00:38:39,440 Speaker 1: the biggest roars you've ever played in front of. 864 00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think ninety nine percent of the crowd wanted 865 00:38:42,600 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: me to win, so yeah. 866 00:38:44,600 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: And as an athlete and as a golfer, you can 867 00:38:47,440 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 1: feed off of that. And I'm sure that's probably the 868 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:54,000 Speaker 1: first time that you've really kind of felt what you know, 869 00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:57,280 Speaker 1: they feel in the right cop what Rory and DJ 870 00:38:57,360 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 1: and Brooks feel like when they take the lead with 871 00:39:00,600 --> 00:39:04,399 Speaker 1: three holes left and there's a big crowd. That must 872 00:39:04,440 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 1: have been so cool to kind of hear those roles, 873 00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,600 Speaker 1: to know that you had a big following. 874 00:39:10,120 --> 00:39:12,960 Speaker 2: Yeah. I mean I chipped in on my nineteenth hole 875 00:39:13,080 --> 00:39:16,239 Speaker 2: to start the match, which was electric, and I got 876 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,080 Speaker 2: it gone. I'm like, okay, like I can come back. 877 00:39:18,120 --> 00:39:20,760 Speaker 2: And I feel like it was either you or Brett 878 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:22,440 Speaker 2: who told me is like get it two down at 879 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:23,120 Speaker 2: the turn. 880 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,399 Speaker 1: I told I think we were all telling you that, right. Yeah. 881 00:39:25,440 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 1: I kind of felt like if you could get close 882 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:32,719 Speaker 1: through nine. Obviously Oselli he's never been in that situation 883 00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 1: before either. Right, he's trying to win the biggest tournament 884 00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: of his life. You're going to have that moment of 885 00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:41,839 Speaker 1: confidence crisis right where you're like, okay, I'm four up. 886 00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,880 Speaker 1: And I kept everybody that I was talking to. I 887 00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:46,840 Speaker 1: was at Greenbrier for lib but all the guys that 888 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: were playing, you know that knew you were in it. 889 00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:51,960 Speaker 1: They all just were like, DJ was gone, dude, if 890 00:39:51,960 --> 00:39:57,399 Speaker 1: you could get it somehow around two, But if it's 891 00:39:57,400 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: at four and it goes to five, you're going to 892 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:03,319 Speaker 1: to run out of holes. Yeah, and you're you're gonna 893 00:40:03,400 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: run out of holes because mentally you're like, okay, I'm 894 00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,480 Speaker 1: five down now with X amount of holes to play, 895 00:40:09,520 --> 00:40:11,880 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, you know, you go five down in 896 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,839 Speaker 1: that match early. Yeah, you start thinking, okay, I don't 897 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:21,400 Speaker 1: have enough holes time. Yeah, what was the time between 898 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:25,480 Speaker 1: the morning round and second round? What were you thinking? 899 00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,520 Speaker 1: How did you kind of flip that switch and kind 900 00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:32,400 Speaker 1: of make it a run in the second eighteen? 901 00:40:32,719 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 2: Yeah. I took a shower actually in between rounds, and 902 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:39,520 Speaker 2: then I called you talk to you. I talked to 903 00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:42,520 Speaker 2: Brett McCabe, who's my sports psychologist, and then I talked 904 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,120 Speaker 2: to John Harris actually too. 905 00:40:44,360 --> 00:40:47,759 Speaker 1: Yeah, who's a former USAM Champion's a member of AUGUSTA. I 906 00:40:47,800 --> 00:40:51,480 Speaker 1: mean he's he's an amateur legend. I know his health 907 00:40:51,600 --> 00:40:54,840 Speaker 1: hasn't been great. You talked about it in the broadcast. 908 00:40:54,960 --> 00:40:56,799 Speaker 1: What advice did he give you? Yeah? 909 00:40:56,840 --> 00:40:59,200 Speaker 2: He knew I was struggling a bit. He's like, you 910 00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 2: deserve to be there, Like you're better than this kid. 911 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,440 Speaker 2: And he's just like, whenever you're warming up for you around, 912 00:41:04,760 --> 00:41:06,520 Speaker 2: get creative, hit a bunch of hooks, hit a bunch 913 00:41:06,560 --> 00:41:10,360 Speaker 2: of slices, and he said, bring high energy. I'm like, okay, 914 00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:12,239 Speaker 2: So I'm out there in the range and I'm sure 915 00:41:12,280 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 2: everybody's thinking, like what the heck is this kid doing? 916 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,880 Speaker 2: Like I'm hitting eight iron hooks and slicing eight irons 917 00:41:16,920 --> 00:41:19,960 Speaker 2: and great advice. I'm like, okay, like I feel much 918 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:21,799 Speaker 2: better than I did in the morning. Like I'm like, 919 00:41:21,840 --> 00:41:24,200 Speaker 2: I feel like now like I'm playing around with my buddies, 920 00:41:24,200 --> 00:41:26,080 Speaker 2: which is kind of funny, but I'm not like it 921 00:41:26,160 --> 00:41:27,759 Speaker 2: was more serious than that. But I'm warming up like 922 00:41:27,800 --> 00:41:32,000 Speaker 2: it's a nine am on a Sunday, and yeah, I mean, 923 00:41:32,520 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 2: as soon as I hold that chip on one, I'm like, okay, 924 00:41:35,160 --> 00:41:36,960 Speaker 2: I'm gonna win this golf tournament. Like that was in 925 00:41:37,000 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 2: the morning. I did not think that the morning. I 926 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,960 Speaker 2: struggled a lot, but then whenever I got it back 927 00:41:42,000 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 2: after that, I'm like, the crowd is so on my 928 00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:47,360 Speaker 2: side right now, like it is not with Josele. And 929 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:49,440 Speaker 2: then he made a big pot on two and I 930 00:41:49,520 --> 00:41:52,640 Speaker 2: kind of like got put back in my place. I'm like, damn, 931 00:41:53,080 --> 00:41:54,920 Speaker 2: like okay, and then. 932 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: I was three down. Now I'm back to four down. 933 00:41:57,239 --> 00:41:59,000 Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of get up on the second team. 934 00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:04,360 Speaker 2: It's a bit deflating. And he pounded a dry he smoked, 935 00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,640 Speaker 2: So I made a funny joke to the later in 936 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:10,160 Speaker 2: the round, to the people who were watching. So he 937 00:42:10,239 --> 00:42:11,800 Speaker 2: smokes when like dead straight and I look at a 938 00:42:11,920 --> 00:42:14,160 Speaker 2: j and I'm like, okay, like it's time to like ball. 939 00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,640 Speaker 2: And I hit it by him on that tea box 940 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 2: and he hits it right. I hit the par five 941 00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: and two made birdie and I think on seven, I 942 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:27,319 Speaker 2: made like a thirty five footer for eagle and I 943 00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:29,480 Speaker 2: got it back to two down and then I stuffed 944 00:42:29,520 --> 00:42:32,439 Speaker 2: it on eight and he had like a chip shot. 945 00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:34,360 Speaker 2: He almost shipped it in. I made my putt. I 946 00:42:34,400 --> 00:42:36,160 Speaker 2: go to ag I'm like, if we make this like 947 00:42:36,360 --> 00:42:39,040 Speaker 2: this is huge and I ended up barely missing and 948 00:42:39,080 --> 00:42:43,200 Speaker 2: I but I made the turn it two down. I'm 949 00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:45,879 Speaker 2: looking at him and I'm like, dude, like when one 950 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 2: more hole and this kid's gonna be like crapping himself. 951 00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:50,719 Speaker 1: It's gonna be nervous because I mean, again, neither one 952 00:42:50,719 --> 00:42:52,520 Speaker 1: of you have ever been in that situation. And I 953 00:42:52,520 --> 00:42:56,400 Speaker 1: think you know match play can turn on these moments 954 00:42:56,440 --> 00:43:00,160 Speaker 1: to where you think you're fine by the time you 955 00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:02,080 Speaker 1: you get it back to one up. He's got to 956 00:43:02,120 --> 00:43:04,920 Speaker 1: be thinking, Okay, I was cruising in the morning. This 957 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,520 Speaker 1: kid had nothing, I mean, and all of a sudden, 958 00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:11,240 Speaker 1: with not that long ago. 959 00:43:11,080 --> 00:43:14,320 Speaker 2: I one down, but I gave him two holes back. 960 00:43:14,600 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 2: Actually I gave him a tenth hole, which is bad. 961 00:43:16,600 --> 00:43:18,799 Speaker 2: So he was back to three up on eleven and 962 00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 2: he made a great birdie. So I'm four down with 963 00:43:22,400 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 2: seven to play, and I look at aj again and 964 00:43:26,560 --> 00:43:28,160 Speaker 2: like he's like, how bad do you want it? And 965 00:43:28,480 --> 00:43:32,400 Speaker 2: we tied twelve and thirteen was the first time. I 966 00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:33,960 Speaker 2: don't know how many holes that is. That was the 967 00:43:34,000 --> 00:43:36,320 Speaker 2: first time, Like he handed me a hole was thirteen 968 00:43:36,560 --> 00:43:38,959 Speaker 2: because he hit it in the water, and I still 969 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,200 Speaker 2: made it hard for me to win, like I staw 970 00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,480 Speaker 2: to make like a five footer for par and then 971 00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,480 Speaker 2: I made a huge pot on fourteen. We both birdied fifteen. 972 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:52,920 Speaker 2: I mean, yeah, one, sixteen, tied seven. Yeah, I got 973 00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 2: it to the eighteenth. I guarantee you. I can't imagine 974 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 2: how many people thought after the morning eighteen there was 975 00:43:57,000 --> 00:43:58,759 Speaker 2: no way that match was getting me the eighteenth hole. 976 00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:01,239 Speaker 1: I'll be honest. I I mean, obviously you didn't have 977 00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,920 Speaker 1: your best stuff going into you know that. After that 978 00:44:04,040 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: morning round, I thought it was going to be a 979 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,480 Speaker 1: struggle for you because you've just never been in that 980 00:44:07,520 --> 00:44:10,279 Speaker 1: situation before, right, I Mean it's not like you've been 981 00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,000 Speaker 1: down the stretch in major championships. You know, you know 982 00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:18,680 Speaker 1: what that feels like. It's also probably your first real 983 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:23,840 Speaker 1: real test of managing your adrenaline on some of the holes. 984 00:44:23,840 --> 00:44:26,920 Speaker 1: How much further were you hitting it with your irons 985 00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: than you normally do, just because you're so jacked up 986 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,920 Speaker 1: on all the adrenaline. Because I think the first hole 987 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,319 Speaker 1: in the second round, that's what got you right. You 988 00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: piped it in the start of the second eighteen. You're 989 00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:42,160 Speaker 1: right in the middle of the fair way and you 990 00:44:42,320 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: one bounced it over the green. And I guarantee you 991 00:44:45,480 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: you thought you had the white club and the right 992 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,600 Speaker 1: number and you didn't think you could hit it over it. 993 00:44:50,200 --> 00:44:52,480 Speaker 1: But you just go to all this adrenaline going and 994 00:44:52,520 --> 00:44:55,239 Speaker 1: you're like, man, how far did that go? Yeah? 995 00:44:55,360 --> 00:44:57,080 Speaker 2: I feel like there there's a couple of shots that 996 00:44:57,120 --> 00:44:59,879 Speaker 2: like stand out. I think the third hole, I think 997 00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:04,600 Speaker 2: it five would from three hundred and then seven was 998 00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:08,319 Speaker 2: four iron from like two forty five, And I think 999 00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 2: I on twelve, I think I had eight iron from 1000 00:45:10,320 --> 00:45:13,800 Speaker 2: two hundred. That's just fifteen. That was probably one of 1001 00:45:13,840 --> 00:45:15,920 Speaker 2: the best pressure shots I've hit. Hit nine iron from 1002 00:45:15,960 --> 00:45:18,359 Speaker 2: like one hundred and thirty yards on fifteen and took 1003 00:45:18,400 --> 00:45:19,759 Speaker 2: spin off of it and stuffed it. 1004 00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:22,400 Speaker 1: So yeah, so you didn't get the job done, you 1005 00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:26,759 Speaker 1: end up losing two up. Yeah, you're going to the Masters, 1006 00:45:27,000 --> 00:45:30,800 Speaker 1: You're in the US Open. What's the one thing coming 1007 00:45:30,800 --> 00:45:32,759 Speaker 1: out of that experience at the USM nor that you 1008 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,319 Speaker 1: learned about yourself that you didn't know at the start 1009 00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:36,759 Speaker 1: of the week. 1010 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:40,000 Speaker 2: That I belong with the the Leuke Clantons of the world, 1011 00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:43,080 Speaker 2: the jose Lee by Stairs of the world, the Gordon 1012 00:45:43,160 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 2: Sergeants of the world. I belong with as much as 1013 00:45:46,320 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 2: their name is up there, I know that I can 1014 00:45:47,800 --> 00:45:49,799 Speaker 2: fight for my right to be up there with them too. 1015 00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,360 Speaker 1: I think there will be a lot of people that 1016 00:45:51,440 --> 00:45:53,960 Speaker 1: will hear that no one and think, Okay, that's that's 1017 00:45:54,000 --> 00:45:57,640 Speaker 1: being cocky, that's being arrogant. But you have to believe 1018 00:45:57,719 --> 00:46:02,040 Speaker 1: in yourself and your ability to get to the next 1019 00:46:02,160 --> 00:46:05,080 Speaker 1: level if you don't. I mean, I had a lot 1020 00:46:05,120 --> 00:46:09,480 Speaker 1: of players at the tournament when Brooks won the PGA 1021 00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,680 Speaker 1: Beth Page when he made that comment in the press conference, 1022 00:46:12,680 --> 00:46:14,719 Speaker 1: and you know everybody knows it. He was like, I 1023 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:18,319 Speaker 1: think major's the easiest ones to win. Nicholas thought this way, 1024 00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,400 Speaker 1: and he went through that, and I had players, a 1025 00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:22,400 Speaker 1: couple of players that I was working with, though, I mean, 1026 00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:24,600 Speaker 1: who the hell does this kid think he is? And 1027 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:27,640 Speaker 1: I remember texting someone back going, don't you want to 1028 00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:32,600 Speaker 1: think like that? And there's that borderline between being arrogant, 1029 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:36,080 Speaker 1: but also you have to believe in yourself as a 1030 00:46:36,120 --> 00:46:38,799 Speaker 1: goal forer and you have to believe in yourself as 1031 00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:43,520 Speaker 1: an athlete. And I think you need experiences like you 1032 00:46:44,040 --> 00:46:46,640 Speaker 1: went through to believe, because I'll be honest with you, 1033 00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 1: and Brett and I have talked about this. You stepped out, 1034 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:51,320 Speaker 1: Dana and I've talked Abouss. I don't think you believed 1035 00:46:51,480 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: you were good before this past summer. I think you 1036 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:56,759 Speaker 1: knew you had talent, but I don't think you believed 1037 00:46:57,320 --> 00:47:00,799 Speaker 1: that you could go out and win big tournaments. What 1038 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,480 Speaker 1: do you do now going into your sophomore year with 1039 00:47:03,640 --> 00:47:06,600 Speaker 1: that belief? How do you not get ahead of yourself? 1040 00:47:07,000 --> 00:47:09,320 Speaker 1: How do you not fall into some of the traps 1041 00:47:09,320 --> 00:47:12,520 Speaker 1: that you can fall into where you get sidetracked, you 1042 00:47:12,520 --> 00:47:15,240 Speaker 1: start thinking you're a baller. Everybody starts because now everybody's 1043 00:47:15,239 --> 00:47:17,560 Speaker 1: going to tell you you're good, right, Everybody kind of 1044 00:47:17,640 --> 00:47:20,359 Speaker 1: knew you were good before this, So how do you 1045 00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:24,440 Speaker 1: deal with the weight of expectation, but also how do 1046 00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,760 Speaker 1: you deal with, like I said, not getting ahead of yourself, 1047 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:33,200 Speaker 1: staying humble, continuing to work hard so that you can 1048 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,719 Speaker 1: still achieve the goals and the dreams that you've got. 1049 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:37,439 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I feel like I was. I talked 1050 00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:39,719 Speaker 2: to Brett before this, before the USAM, I was always 1051 00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:41,000 Speaker 2: one of the kids who would kind of be like, 1052 00:47:41,040 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 2: oh wow, like that's Gordon Sergeant on the range, like 1053 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,799 Speaker 2: it's cool to be like competing against him. And you know, 1054 00:47:45,920 --> 00:47:47,800 Speaker 2: my first college front back, I felt like I was 1055 00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,839 Speaker 2: a kid that kind of everybody was looking at, which 1056 00:47:49,880 --> 00:47:51,360 Speaker 2: is a new thing for me because I feel like 1057 00:47:51,400 --> 00:47:54,279 Speaker 2: I'm a very humble kid, like I kinda very like 1058 00:47:54,920 --> 00:47:58,640 Speaker 2: relaxed and you know, now I know which is really 1059 00:47:58,680 --> 00:48:00,680 Speaker 2: hard for me to say, but I will admitted in 1060 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:02,759 Speaker 2: this last college urm, I got too comfortable, and I'll 1061 00:48:02,760 --> 00:48:05,400 Speaker 2: fully admit that, like that's how I messed up, and 1062 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,200 Speaker 2: I learned from it. I was in the lead and 1063 00:48:07,239 --> 00:48:10,720 Speaker 2: I ended up finishing thirteenth, and you know, I learned 1064 00:48:10,719 --> 00:48:12,480 Speaker 2: a lot from this week, which is something I think 1065 00:48:12,520 --> 00:48:16,319 Speaker 2: I needed for the future, to be completely honest. So yeah, 1066 00:48:16,360 --> 00:48:17,560 Speaker 2: I mean I got too comfortable. 1067 00:48:17,840 --> 00:48:19,920 Speaker 1: I'm like, wow, I think two of the best things 1068 00:48:19,920 --> 00:48:22,400 Speaker 1: that I think when you look back, I think this 1069 00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 1: past week are two really really important things. Post getting 1070 00:48:26,560 --> 00:48:29,759 Speaker 1: to the finals of the USM. One, you go out 1071 00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:33,000 Speaker 1: your sophomore year at Iowa and your first college tournament. 1072 00:48:33,120 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: After the USM you're leading after the first round, and 1073 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:40,839 Speaker 1: I think in the long run, finishing thirteen thinking that Okay, yeah, 1074 00:48:40,840 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 1: I'm just gonna keep playing good. 1075 00:48:43,120 --> 00:48:43,319 Speaker 2: Yeah. 1076 00:48:43,640 --> 00:48:45,800 Speaker 1: I think that's that's huge for your learning, and I 1077 00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:50,160 Speaker 1: think it's it's massive that you understand that you still 1078 00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:50,960 Speaker 1: have a long way to go. 1079 00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:53,920 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, I mean, I was mad for about an 1080 00:48:53,920 --> 00:48:56,400 Speaker 2: hour after the golf tournament, but like I really like 1081 00:48:57,040 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 2: got into it. I did all my stat work that 1082 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,600 Speaker 2: we do. I looked into and I'm like, I think 1083 00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:04,160 Speaker 2: I'm like man, Like, as much as like it sucks, 1084 00:49:04,360 --> 00:49:06,160 Speaker 2: it's like over with, Like I can't change it. It's 1085 00:49:06,160 --> 00:49:09,439 Speaker 2: like I can use this to my advantage so much 1086 00:49:09,440 --> 00:49:11,399 Speaker 2: better in the future. Like we have Purdue in two 1087 00:49:11,400 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 2: weeks and it's like, speak, I'm hungry than I ever was. 1088 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:17,279 Speaker 2: Like I want to win so bad. I can't force it. 1089 00:49:17,320 --> 00:49:19,359 Speaker 2: I kind of gotta let it. I mean, like let 1090 00:49:19,400 --> 00:49:21,960 Speaker 2: it happen, but like I now know, I feel like 1091 00:49:22,000 --> 00:49:23,640 Speaker 2: the last two turns the USA am and that like 1092 00:49:23,640 --> 00:49:25,880 Speaker 2: I've learned so much to what it means to close 1093 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,080 Speaker 2: out a golf throat now that I just I feel 1094 00:49:28,120 --> 00:49:31,040 Speaker 2: like I have so much of an advantage and I 1095 00:49:31,080 --> 00:49:32,960 Speaker 2: know how to use it. More like I feel like 1096 00:49:32,960 --> 00:49:34,279 Speaker 2: what you said, like it was great to be like 1097 00:49:34,320 --> 00:49:36,640 Speaker 2: in the lead, I got comfortable, but now I feel 1098 00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:38,120 Speaker 2: like I know what I need to do to stay 1099 00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,520 Speaker 2: within myself to close it out for the final eight team. 1100 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:42,759 Speaker 1: You know, I've told you the story before, but Tiger 1101 00:49:42,800 --> 00:49:45,200 Speaker 1: Woods in two thousand and one, when my dad was 1102 00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:47,360 Speaker 1: working with Tiger, my dad and I never work with 1103 00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:51,360 Speaker 1: Adam Scott. We were at the PGA the Atlanta Athletic 1104 00:49:51,400 --> 00:49:54,040 Speaker 1: Club that David Toms won, and we got Scotty to 1105 00:49:54,040 --> 00:49:56,320 Speaker 1: play practun with Tiger. I mean, it's two thousand and 1106 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,040 Speaker 1: one Tiger, so it's it's as good as it gets, right, 1107 00:49:59,080 --> 00:50:02,479 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's Tiger Mania that stretch from two 1108 00:50:02,560 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 1: thousand to two thousand and eight, two thousand and nine, 1109 00:50:05,120 --> 00:50:08,200 Speaker 1: I mean, you couldn't beat him. And Adam was still 1110 00:50:08,200 --> 00:50:10,799 Speaker 1: playing on the European Tour and Tiger said, Hey, you 1111 00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:12,960 Speaker 1: just got to learn how to hang around and get 1112 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:17,000 Speaker 1: in position more often, put yourself in position all the time. 1113 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,320 Speaker 1: Do you feel like maybe that's something that you haven't 1114 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:24,120 Speaker 1: felt before that it's as much about getting yourself into 1115 00:50:24,160 --> 00:50:28,120 Speaker 1: position to win tournaments as opposed to trying to shoot 1116 00:50:28,160 --> 00:50:31,880 Speaker 1: sixty four on the first day and birdie every hole, 1117 00:50:32,440 --> 00:50:35,040 Speaker 1: because it's hard to do that, right, It's hard to 1118 00:50:35,160 --> 00:50:40,840 Speaker 1: play good all the time. What are your goals now, Noah? 1119 00:50:41,000 --> 00:50:44,560 Speaker 1: Moving forward? Obviously you're going to play in two majors 1120 00:50:44,560 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: next year. Yeah, but what are your goals for this 1121 00:50:47,640 --> 00:50:49,720 Speaker 1: year and this season at IOWA? 1122 00:50:50,200 --> 00:50:52,080 Speaker 2: I feel like I'm very good at like breaking it 1123 00:50:52,120 --> 00:50:54,840 Speaker 2: down into parts of the year, so I'm kind of 1124 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:58,239 Speaker 2: letting that end of the year kind of be its 1125 00:50:58,239 --> 00:51:00,000 Speaker 2: own thing. I'm really focused on what's going on now 1126 00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 2: on the fall, so we have three more events that 1127 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,000 Speaker 2: were playing in the fall. I want my scoring average 1128 00:51:06,040 --> 00:51:08,719 Speaker 2: to be below seventy and a half, so that's one 1129 00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:09,240 Speaker 2: of my goals. 1130 00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:12,359 Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah, So last year you played every tournament, it's 1131 00:51:12,400 --> 00:51:15,600 Speaker 1: seventy two point eight. Do you find a way to 1132 00:51:15,640 --> 00:51:17,760 Speaker 1: shave off two strokes? 1133 00:51:18,120 --> 00:51:18,680 Speaker 2: Yeah? 1134 00:51:18,719 --> 00:51:22,319 Speaker 1: How you do that? I'm really interested to hear this. 1135 00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,360 Speaker 2: So right now my scoring average is seventy one point six, 1136 00:51:26,640 --> 00:51:31,160 Speaker 2: which is pretty decent. But now we switched over our 1137 00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:35,239 Speaker 2: stats to clipt YEP, so it's really in depth. So 1138 00:51:35,360 --> 00:51:37,080 Speaker 2: I've been I've never been more on top of it 1139 00:51:37,120 --> 00:51:40,160 Speaker 2: in my life. So for me, I'm a really good 1140 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:43,319 Speaker 2: iron player and a really good putter. So for me, 1141 00:51:43,400 --> 00:51:44,920 Speaker 2: I was getting better off the tee. So I want 1142 00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 2: to limit my penalty shots I have per tournament. If 1143 00:51:48,160 --> 00:51:50,560 Speaker 2: I limit my penalty shots, I think that's easily a 1144 00:51:50,600 --> 00:51:53,480 Speaker 2: stroke for me off my scoring average over the whole year. 1145 00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:56,240 Speaker 1: Thinking about it, the biggest weapon you have is the driver. 1146 00:51:56,480 --> 00:51:59,439 Speaker 1: But with a big weapon like a driver, we see 1147 00:51:59,480 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 1: some of the best players in the world. I mean, 1148 00:52:01,440 --> 00:52:04,080 Speaker 1: Rory drives the shit out of it, right, But when 1149 00:52:04,120 --> 00:52:06,040 Speaker 1: you hit it as far as you guys hit it 1150 00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:09,439 Speaker 1: with the speed that you've got, when it goes offline, 1151 00:52:09,600 --> 00:52:11,879 Speaker 1: it goes a long way offline. 1152 00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:14,440 Speaker 2: I feel like a big proponent to me get it. 1153 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,240 Speaker 2: My score is lower as a Tiger five, so it's 1154 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,640 Speaker 2: no bad up and it's no three putts I think. 1155 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,000 Speaker 2: I think it's no bogies with a scoring club in 1156 00:52:22,080 --> 00:52:22,359 Speaker 2: your hand. 1157 00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: So Tiger's mantra was no bogies on par fives, no 1158 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:30,160 Speaker 1: big numbers, so no doubles triples, no bogies inside of 1159 00:52:30,200 --> 00:52:35,240 Speaker 1: one hundred yards, no three potts, and no blown easy 1160 00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:36,640 Speaker 1: up and downs. Yeah. 1161 00:52:36,719 --> 00:52:38,920 Speaker 2: So I think if I do that mixed with my 1162 00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:41,839 Speaker 2: hazard balls and not losing any balls, I think there's 1163 00:52:42,000 --> 00:52:44,319 Speaker 2: a pretty good shot I can do what I have 1164 00:52:44,440 --> 00:52:48,880 Speaker 2: that goal for. I don't wanta for three more. I 1165 00:52:48,920 --> 00:52:51,160 Speaker 2: don't want to finish outside of the top twenty, on 1166 00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:54,839 Speaker 2: inside the top twenty all that tournaments, and a big 1167 00:52:54,880 --> 00:52:57,719 Speaker 2: one for me is getting in the gym. War So 1168 00:52:57,840 --> 00:53:00,160 Speaker 2: I would say those are my three big ones for 1169 00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:02,319 Speaker 2: me right now that I'm focusing on. Obviously I have 1170 00:53:02,320 --> 00:53:04,480 Speaker 2: smart goals, but those are my three kind of like 1171 00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:06,439 Speaker 2: big goals. I don't want to knock out. 1172 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,680 Speaker 1: Well, I'm just gonna go out ahead and say this. 1173 00:53:09,080 --> 00:53:11,520 Speaker 1: If you're not getting your ass into the gym, the 1174 00:53:11,560 --> 00:53:15,320 Speaker 1: hell is wrong with you because someone else playing college golf, 1175 00:53:15,360 --> 00:53:17,920 Speaker 1: playing amateur golf, and all the people that you're going 1176 00:53:17,960 --> 00:53:20,080 Speaker 1: to be playing with, and the masters in the US Open, 1177 00:53:20,960 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: they're in the gym. They're not taking any days off. Now, 1178 00:53:26,800 --> 00:53:28,160 Speaker 1: it's been a hell of a summer man, it was 1179 00:53:28,200 --> 00:53:30,640 Speaker 1: fun to watch you play. It was fun to I 1180 00:53:30,680 --> 00:53:35,160 Speaker 1: sent you a picture after your semifinal round. I was 1181 00:53:35,200 --> 00:53:37,799 Speaker 1: out to dinner and I'm sitting at a restaurant at 1182 00:53:37,840 --> 00:53:39,640 Speaker 1: the Greenbrier, and I look at the bar and the 1183 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,400 Speaker 1: TV at the bar, and you're getting interviewed. Definitely something 1184 00:53:43,400 --> 00:53:46,200 Speaker 1: that I thought would happen at some point. I didn't 1185 00:53:46,200 --> 00:53:48,400 Speaker 1: think it would happen this early, or you as a 1186 00:53:48,480 --> 00:53:53,239 Speaker 1: nineteen year old. But listen, it's been fun. I think 1187 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,279 Speaker 1: you've had of proven to yourself that you belong, you know, 1188 00:53:56,360 --> 00:53:59,839 Speaker 1: on the competitive amateur circuit, you know, in big competitive ones. 1189 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:04,680 Speaker 1: And I think everybody listening will follow you. It'll be 1190 00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: a fun story at the Masters. And you got to 1191 00:54:07,800 --> 00:54:11,560 Speaker 1: go get some w's this all and this spring at Iowa, 1192 00:54:11,920 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: you got to go get some wins. So you better 1193 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:19,399 Speaker 1: bring home some trophies all the Hawkeyes. Noah, great talking 1194 00:54:19,440 --> 00:54:22,480 Speaker 1: to you, pal. We're proud of you. And go to school, 1195 00:54:22,719 --> 00:54:24,280 Speaker 1: go to class, get your ass. 1196 00:54:24,080 --> 00:54:26,400 Speaker 2: In the gen Oh well, well, thank you so much 1197 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:26,880 Speaker 2: for having me. 1198 00:54:26,920 --> 00:54:29,839 Speaker 1: Great talking to you. So that was no a kent, 1199 00:54:30,080 --> 00:54:32,760 Speaker 1: And listen, I think the kid's got a bright future. 1200 00:54:32,800 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: He's got a lot of tools. In the toolbox. But 1201 00:54:34,800 --> 00:54:36,839 Speaker 1: it'll be very interesting to see if he can take, 1202 00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:39,560 Speaker 1: you know, a really good run at the USM and 1203 00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:43,200 Speaker 1: and turn that into an amateur career that is filled 1204 00:54:43,239 --> 00:54:44,960 Speaker 1: with a lot of promise because, like I said, he 1205 00:54:45,040 --> 00:54:47,440 Speaker 1: hits at miles. He's kind of got the prototype of 1206 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 1: what the modern game is. But that's no guarantee for success. 1207 00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:52,880 Speaker 1: But I think he's got a bright future and I 1208 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:55,880 Speaker 1: think he is someone that we will hear from again. 1209 00:54:56,239 --> 00:54:59,560 Speaker 1: I want to thank everyone for listening, rate, review, subscribe 1210 00:54:59,600 --> 00:55:01,799 Speaker 1: wherever you get your podcasts.