1 00:00:00,280 --> 00:00:03,720 Speaker 1: The Big Vets on Campus Podcast podcast. 2 00:00:04,920 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: All right, here we go. 3 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:14,720 Speaker 1: Fifteen twenty twenty five, thirty thirty five, Tony Cody five 4 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:19,000 Speaker 1: fifty and the kick Ass Block the college football world. 5 00:00:19,840 --> 00:00:20,560 Speaker 2: Stun us. 6 00:00:23,200 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 1: Oh my goodness, he stumbled and bumble the lateral. 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:29,960 Speaker 2: Turn a corner on the. 8 00:00:29,960 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 3: Inside, don't you The lad. 9 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:35,920 Speaker 2: Came off the veil the night. 10 00:00:36,440 --> 00:00:42,040 Speaker 1: By god, it's not the side of the dog in 11 00:00:42,080 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: the fight. 12 00:00:42,760 --> 00:00:45,080 Speaker 2: It's the side of the fight in the dog. 13 00:00:47,680 --> 00:00:50,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to the Big Bets on Campus Podcast presided by 14 00:00:50,479 --> 00:00:51,320 Speaker 1: Bett MGM. 15 00:00:51,479 --> 00:00:52,639 Speaker 2: This is the group of five Deep Dive. 16 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:55,240 Speaker 1: I'm Mike Calvary is joined as always by Mike Ianello. 17 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,960 Speaker 1: This is our special farewell episode to the twenty twenty 18 00:00:58,960 --> 00:01:04,200 Speaker 1: three college football season and the Big Show Colin and Stuckey. 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: They get to give out a gambling heisman. So we 20 00:01:06,240 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 1: were batting around some ideas. You know, do we call 21 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,839 Speaker 1: it the Gambling Davey O'Brien Award or the Maxwell Well, 22 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:15,920 Speaker 1: we are here to unveil the Zappi Award, given to 23 00:01:16,160 --> 00:01:20,600 Speaker 1: the most profitable, the most impactful gambling related person in 24 00:01:20,640 --> 00:01:23,160 Speaker 1: all of college football at the G five level. And 25 00:01:23,480 --> 00:01:30,119 Speaker 1: without further ado, let me get to the nominees as 26 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 1: a surprise, absolutely No one. Diego Pavia, New Mexico State quarterback. 27 00:01:34,160 --> 00:01:37,520 Speaker 1: The Aggies go eleven and three against the spread. Pavia 28 00:01:37,520 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 1: a huge part of that. He finished thirty ninth in 29 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:43,360 Speaker 1: total QBR, thirty seven hundred total yards, thirty two total touchdowns, 30 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:46,280 Speaker 1: and orchestrated the upset of Auburn as a twenty five 31 00:01:46,319 --> 00:01:49,240 Speaker 1: point underdog on the road. On the planes, he had 32 00:01:49,240 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: two hundred and thirty six total yards and three scores, 33 00:01:51,200 --> 00:01:54,320 Speaker 1: and that one led New Mexico State in year one 34 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:57,320 Speaker 1: of Conference USA membership all the way to the Conference 35 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:03,360 Speaker 1: USA title Game. Number two. This one brings me great joy. 36 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: Graham Nicholson place kicker Miami Ohio RedHawks. The red Hawks 37 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:10,320 Speaker 1: ten to three against the spread this year. Really no 38 00:02:10,400 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: offensive speak of outside of Nicholson, but he did the 39 00:02:12,760 --> 00:02:15,799 Speaker 1: heavy lifting twenty six of twenty seven on field goals, 40 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:19,440 Speaker 1: including ten of eleven from forty plus yards. He's also 41 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:22,760 Speaker 1: the first G five Grows Award winner since Cairo Santos 42 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:26,160 Speaker 1: from Tulane in twenty twelve. And let's wrap it up 43 00:02:26,200 --> 00:02:28,480 Speaker 1: with a fan favorite, at least in the Calabary's household, 44 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:32,240 Speaker 1: Kyrie Robinson the San Jose State running back. The Spartans 45 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,800 Speaker 1: finished eight three to one against the spread. After just 46 00:02:34,840 --> 00:02:38,119 Speaker 1: a horrific starts at the season, they end up winning out, 47 00:02:38,200 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: getting to seven and five. They're now in the Hawaii Bowl, 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: and Robinson was a huge reason why. Seven yards per carry, 49 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:47,560 Speaker 1: twenty total touchdowns. He was a sawed off touchdown machine, 50 00:02:47,680 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: no two ways about it. The five foot seven back 51 00:02:50,000 --> 00:02:52,079 Speaker 1: was somebody who always had a nose for the end zone. 52 00:02:52,120 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 1: He carried the Spartans offensively during the six game win streak. 53 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,519 Speaker 1: I love the kid, and he wraps up our three finals. 54 00:02:58,639 --> 00:03:01,840 Speaker 1: What are your thoughts on our guy from New Mexico State, Miami, 55 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:03,320 Speaker 1: Ohio and San Jose State. 56 00:03:03,800 --> 00:03:08,239 Speaker 3: Yes, three incredibly worthy candidates. I will throw up one 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 3: honorable mention that could have made his way in Zion 58 00:03:10,600 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 3: Webb Jacksonville State nine and three ATS eight and four 59 00:03:14,520 --> 00:03:16,079 Speaker 3: in their first season in FBS. 60 00:03:16,320 --> 00:03:17,120 Speaker 2: He was great too. 61 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,080 Speaker 3: But yeah, these three options, you know, obviously, Kyle Robinson 62 00:03:20,120 --> 00:03:22,919 Speaker 3: came up just short of cashing our potentially cashing our 63 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:27,480 Speaker 3: big Mountain West championship futures. Graham Nicholson, we mentioned it. 64 00:03:27,560 --> 00:03:30,400 Speaker 3: Cash the MAC title futures for us Basically single handily 65 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:33,799 Speaker 3: announced a big run it back graphic, which you love 66 00:03:33,800 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 3: seeing that for a kicker, But look, nobody has made 67 00:03:37,320 --> 00:03:41,200 Speaker 3: us more money over the last five months. Then one 68 00:03:41,280 --> 00:03:44,680 Speaker 3: Diego Pavia. I think we basically created this award just 69 00:03:44,720 --> 00:03:47,080 Speaker 3: to give it to him. We basically get created this 70 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:50,640 Speaker 3: award just to you know, tell Stocky to shove it 71 00:03:50,680 --> 00:03:52,480 Speaker 3: that we're going to give Diego our own award. 72 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 2: I'm with Diego because screw you. 73 00:03:54,640 --> 00:03:57,040 Speaker 3: You don't even need to bother with the envelope. This 74 00:03:57,160 --> 00:03:59,800 Speaker 3: is like the David Stern frozen envelope. We know who 75 00:03:59,800 --> 00:04:01,040 Speaker 3: are pick in Go. 76 00:04:01,120 --> 00:04:01,760 Speaker 2: Diego Go. 77 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:06,080 Speaker 3: We know who's winning this award. I mean, my I 78 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:08,119 Speaker 3: spoiling anything, It's got to be Diego, right. 79 00:04:08,600 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: The first annual Zappi Award does, in fact go to 80 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: Diego Pavia. Zappi, who threw for nearly six thousand yards 81 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:22,120 Speaker 1: an FBS record in twenty twenty one sixty two passing touchdowns. 82 00:04:22,320 --> 00:04:24,800 Speaker 1: He lives on forever, and now Diego gets to be 83 00:04:24,839 --> 00:04:29,160 Speaker 1: a part of that's limited basically a party one at 84 00:04:29,160 --> 00:04:33,159 Speaker 1: this point, Fraternity, welcome Diego, Thank you so much for 85 00:04:33,279 --> 00:04:40,200 Speaker 1: cashing so many winning tickets for US. BBOC is presented 86 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,040 Speaker 1: by Bett. MGM used bonus code action when signing up 87 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 1: to get fifteen hundred dollars paid back in bonus bets 88 00:04:46,279 --> 00:04:53,559 Speaker 1: if your first bet loses. 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I'm going to start 98 00:05:19,480 --> 00:05:20,280 Speaker 2: with an overachiever. 99 00:05:20,600 --> 00:05:22,960 Speaker 1: I picked them to win Conference USA, but I did 100 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:24,840 Speaker 1: not think that the Liberty Flames were going. 101 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: To be this good going all the way to the Fiestaval. 102 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:30,480 Speaker 1: I think it's fair to say in the preseason there 103 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:33,440 Speaker 1: was questions would Conference USA ever get a G five 104 00:05:33,480 --> 00:05:35,719 Speaker 1: team to a New Year six Bowl game? Just based 105 00:05:35,760 --> 00:05:38,560 Speaker 1: on their overall talent top to bottom, the fact that 106 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:40,840 Speaker 1: they would need conference champions in the other G five 107 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: leagues to lose multiple games. 108 00:05:42,600 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 2: They got that part of. 109 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:45,719 Speaker 1: It, but also they'd have to play perfect football and 110 00:05:45,880 --> 00:05:48,760 Speaker 1: entertaining football to get the attention of the committee. And 111 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,640 Speaker 1: Jamie Chadwell is an expert in creating He's entertaining and 112 00:05:52,680 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 1: palatable offensive football, because man, his offense is so much 113 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,120 Speaker 1: fun to watch. And Kinden Salter, I thought that his 114 00:05:59,279 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 1: stealing would be, you know, kind of how he played 115 00:06:02,520 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: at times this year where he could go for three 116 00:06:04,160 --> 00:06:06,839 Speaker 1: or four touchdowns, you know, pepper in a rushing touchdown. 117 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: Not necessarily the most accurate pastor in the world, but 118 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:12,320 Speaker 1: I figured we'd see that two or three times, and 119 00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: then we had a couple of sinkers, have some games 120 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:15,440 Speaker 1: where he tried to do too much. 121 00:06:15,680 --> 00:06:17,760 Speaker 2: You know, he almost looks like a poor. 122 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: Man's Patrick Mahomes at times, trying to extend plays, making 123 00:06:21,520 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: you know, wild throws in the sideline, all these different things. 124 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,800 Speaker 1: I figured that would come back to bite him. He 125 00:06:26,000 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: was basically that top end player, the best version of 126 00:06:29,200 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 1: himself for thirteen games, and that's what is pretty amazing 127 00:06:32,320 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: to me, and that's why I've selected them as my 128 00:06:34,440 --> 00:06:37,719 Speaker 1: overachiever here. The Flames just in general, I think gave 129 00:06:37,800 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: us a great football product for thirteen weeks, which is 130 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,160 Speaker 1: difficult to do in college football. Usually people have that letdown. 131 00:06:44,400 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 1: So this is a combination between giving it to Salter 132 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,200 Speaker 1: and giving it to Jamie Chadwell. And also kudos to 133 00:06:49,240 --> 00:06:53,240 Speaker 1: Liberty for retaining Chadwell in a year where the coaching 134 00:06:53,279 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: carousel was really heating up. There were some interesting P 135 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,440 Speaker 1: five jobs available, even you know, jobs inside of the 136 00:06:59,520 --> 00:07:02,640 Speaker 1: G five that potentially could offer him more money. He's 137 00:07:02,640 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: sticking with Liberty, So they're my overachiever for twenty twenty three. 138 00:07:06,160 --> 00:07:07,000 Speaker 2: Who do you have, Ianello? 139 00:07:07,160 --> 00:07:09,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, I gotta go with UNLV. I got to go 140 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:11,320 Speaker 3: with the Rebels nine and four season. Not just do 141 00:07:11,400 --> 00:07:15,000 Speaker 3: they overachieve on the field, but you know, looking back 142 00:07:15,040 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 3: on it, they got I think they got so lucky 143 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 3: that Bobby Patrino ditched them after two weeks to go 144 00:07:20,520 --> 00:07:23,960 Speaker 3: to Arkansas. Well, no, he was with Taxa A and M. 145 00:07:24,040 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 3: Taxa A and M now Arkansas. But when he left 146 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:28,160 Speaker 3: for tax A and M, and they brought in Brennan Marion, 147 00:07:28,320 --> 00:07:31,640 Speaker 3: their offense was so creative, and I think that's what 148 00:07:31,680 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 3: really helped them. Like I said, nine to four, they've 149 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:39,000 Speaker 3: only gone bowling twice since two thousand and if they 150 00:07:39,000 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 3: win their bowl game, they will have their first ten 151 00:07:42,160 --> 00:07:46,560 Speaker 3: win season since nineteen eighty four. And they remember of 152 00:07:46,600 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 3: the Pacific Coast Athletic Association. Do you know who their 153 00:07:49,760 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 3: coach was in nineteen eighty. 154 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:51,960 Speaker 2: Four, I do not. 155 00:07:52,080 --> 00:07:54,720 Speaker 1: I know Randall Cunningham was doing double duty at quarterback 156 00:07:54,720 --> 00:07:56,680 Speaker 1: in puncer, but that's all I know about that running 157 00:07:56,720 --> 00:07:57,440 Speaker 1: rebel team. 158 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: Harvey Hyde was the coach. So they have a chance 159 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,440 Speaker 3: to win ten games for the first time since old 160 00:08:04,520 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: Harvey Hot and the Pacific Conference. So UNOV has to 161 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,440 Speaker 3: be my overachiever. Just an awesome year in Las Vegas, 162 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:13,000 Speaker 3: and I hope they keep it up. I hope they 163 00:08:13,000 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 3: can keep Marion and I hope they keep it going 164 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,280 Speaker 3: because with this nil stuff, you know, you've seen sports 165 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:20,400 Speaker 3: like look at the way you know the Vegas Golden Knights, 166 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,120 Speaker 3: like the fans in Vegas are embracing. I'd love to 167 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:25,760 Speaker 3: see this UNLV team turn into like a little Mountain 168 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:26,920 Speaker 3: West hotbed. 169 00:08:32,240 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 1: Vegas wouldn't be an even handed episode without you know, 170 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: balancing the overachiever with the underachiever. I'm gonna go Georgia State. 171 00:08:50,160 --> 00:08:53,520 Speaker 1: This was their year to sneak in in the Sunbelt East. 172 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:56,319 Speaker 1: Got off to a great start, went six and one, 173 00:08:56,360 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: I believe, and then lost their last five games in 174 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:02,800 Speaker 1: a row. Granger was not consistent. Marcus Carroll was great, 175 00:09:02,800 --> 00:09:04,600 Speaker 1: but now he's off in the portal to Miszoo. 176 00:09:05,040 --> 00:09:05,800 Speaker 2: And the fact is. 177 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:10,079 Speaker 1: Between Robert Lewis, Granger and then Carol, how did they 178 00:09:10,120 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 1: lose so many game? And it wasn't just that they lost. 179 00:09:12,240 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 1: I mean you look at the l's on their schedule. 180 00:09:14,960 --> 00:09:18,120 Speaker 1: Georgia Southern, they lose by seventeen. James Madison crushes him 181 00:09:18,120 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: by twenty eight. Appalachin State beats him by twenty eight. 182 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: I'm matching forty two to fourteen score LSU kills him. 183 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:25,240 Speaker 1: You know, I'm going to forgive him there, and then 184 00:09:25,240 --> 00:09:27,960 Speaker 1: they lose in the season finale at Old Dominion twenty 185 00:09:27,960 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: five twenty four. 186 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: To me, this was the year. 187 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: Because James Madison was in NCAA limbo, they weren't allowed 188 00:09:33,280 --> 00:09:35,200 Speaker 1: to go to the Sun Belt title game despite all 189 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,200 Speaker 1: their letter writing campaigns and you know, getting the governor 190 00:09:38,240 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 1: involved in Attorney General and everything else. This was the 191 00:09:41,080 --> 00:09:43,800 Speaker 1: year to go number two and get there and try 192 00:09:43,800 --> 00:09:46,040 Speaker 1: to make a statement and try to break through a 193 00:09:46,080 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: program that we like. I mean, we've been on the Panthers, 194 00:09:48,960 --> 00:09:50,880 Speaker 1: we bet them a lot in the last three years. 195 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,040 Speaker 1: We believe in their coaching staff, we believe in their 196 00:09:53,040 --> 00:09:55,720 Speaker 1: core offensively, and they just didn't get it done. So 197 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:57,840 Speaker 1: it's a bit of an emotional play for me as well, 198 00:09:57,880 --> 00:10:00,280 Speaker 1: because I was just shocked after such a p host 199 00:10:00,400 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 1: start for them to fall apart. 200 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can almost copy and paste, but you just 201 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:06,439 Speaker 3: said to Marshall as well, but I'm gonna, you know, 202 00:10:07,120 --> 00:10:10,280 Speaker 3: kind of double down on your overachiever and further allow 203 00:10:10,360 --> 00:10:12,839 Speaker 3: you to take a victory lap because while we tend 204 00:10:12,920 --> 00:10:14,839 Speaker 3: to agree and see eye to eye a lot, in 205 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:17,400 Speaker 3: this podcast, we went to war with each other in 206 00:10:17,480 --> 00:10:20,720 Speaker 3: one of the conference previews and you stuck your flag 207 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:25,440 Speaker 3: in Liberty and I stuck mine in Western Kentucky. And 208 00:10:25,559 --> 00:10:28,560 Speaker 3: to me, the Hilltoppers were a massive underachiever in that 209 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:31,199 Speaker 3: we talked about what a cake walk conferences they should 210 00:10:31,200 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 3: have been. They should have been favored in every I 211 00:10:33,120 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 3: think they ended up favored in every game seven and 212 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: five lost US to Jacksonville State, Looston, New Mexico State 213 00:10:41,000 --> 00:10:43,880 Speaker 3: crushed by Liberty, who they were viewed as equals basically 214 00:10:43,880 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 3: coming into the year. They I mean, they barely beat 215 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:50,760 Speaker 3: Sam Houston. So to me, not only just on the field, 216 00:10:50,760 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: but how high I was, it was kind of a 217 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:56,520 Speaker 3: meat underachieving as well. We talked about, you know, Zapp 218 00:10:56,559 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: being there anymore. So honestly, there was a lot of 219 00:10:58,600 --> 00:11:00,600 Speaker 3: teams you could give faus though when I thought of 220 00:11:00,640 --> 00:11:03,319 Speaker 3: that was pretty disappointing. You can blame it on Casey 221 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,040 Speaker 3: Thompson getting hurt, but he was pretty bad before that. 222 00:11:06,080 --> 00:11:08,280 Speaker 3: I have pretty high expectations for them when aer Tom Hrdman, 223 00:11:08,840 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 3: so Fau and Marshall get honorable mentions for me, but 224 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 3: Western Kentucky was my underachiever of the year. 225 00:11:15,360 --> 00:11:18,360 Speaker 1: You see this a bit in Power conference football, where 226 00:11:18,400 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 1: you look at Ohio State, they have that run of quarterbacks, 227 00:11:20,760 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 1: they have the same head coach, and you say, all right, 228 00:11:22,920 --> 00:11:25,640 Speaker 1: whoever's at QB is just going to absolutely eat you know, 229 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:28,360 Speaker 1: between the system and the personnel on the perimeter. 230 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 2: Colin McCord's gonna have a great year. He doesn't. 231 00:11:30,720 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 1: He proves just to be a b B plus quarterback 232 00:11:33,960 --> 00:11:36,840 Speaker 1: Austin Reid coming in for Zappi. With all the coaching 233 00:11:36,920 --> 00:11:40,000 Speaker 1: changes as well play caller changes, they just never got 234 00:11:40,040 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 1: back to that elite level. And every year it seems 235 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,600 Speaker 1: like almost every game they kind of went down and 236 00:11:45,640 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: down and down. They just weren't as explosive, which is 237 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:50,800 Speaker 1: crazy considering Malchi Corley is, you know, the yak king. 238 00:11:50,840 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 2: All you got to do is get him. 239 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:54,959 Speaker 1: The ball, and the perimeter's breaking tackles, going for long touchdowns. 240 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: So I think the floor could really fall out from 241 00:11:58,720 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: under Western Kentucky next year, losing Cory and losing Reed. 242 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:05,720 Speaker 1: So I think that's just a team to monitor that 243 00:12:05,960 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 1: early season. People are going to look at them. It's like, hey, 244 00:12:08,280 --> 00:12:10,719 Speaker 1: this has been a pernial Bowl team really for the 245 00:12:10,760 --> 00:12:13,560 Speaker 1: last four or five years, with a fun offense no more. 246 00:12:14,120 --> 00:12:15,840 Speaker 3: It's crazy that you had, like we were so high 247 00:12:15,880 --> 00:12:20,040 Speaker 3: on that trio of the Helton Kittley Zapi and it 248 00:12:20,640 --> 00:12:22,640 Speaker 3: could not have worked better. But now you look at 249 00:12:22,679 --> 00:12:25,360 Speaker 3: it and it's like Helen's had a bad year and 250 00:12:25,360 --> 00:12:27,720 Speaker 3: you think he's on his way for another one. Killy 251 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 3: like is going to a run out. 252 00:12:29,200 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 2: Of Texas Tech. 253 00:12:30,000 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: It seems like their passing offense was atrocious. You know, 254 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 3: I don't know what expectations were for Zappy, but it's 255 00:12:36,679 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 3: not like he's lighting up the NFL. I mean, he 256 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,800 Speaker 3: played pretty well in his last game, but he struggled 257 00:12:41,040 --> 00:12:43,319 Speaker 3: pretty bad in the first two kind of two or 258 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:45,959 Speaker 3: three games he got action in. So we'll see, you know, 259 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,440 Speaker 3: if he can continue to play well for the Patriots. 260 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,439 Speaker 3: But it's kind of just weird where the three of 261 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 3: them worked so well together and now on their own, 262 00:12:53,520 --> 00:12:55,439 Speaker 3: it's like all three are kind of struggling. And I 263 00:12:55,480 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 3: would say, like, I mean, ZAPPI I think he's having 264 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,080 Speaker 3: the most success, but it's interesting. It's almost like an 265 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,720 Speaker 3: at least fired from Texas at Tech. Does the Hilltoppers 266 00:13:02,720 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 3: bring him back? Because yeah, they gotta figure it out 267 00:13:05,440 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 3: because it was that was just such a fun run. 268 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,480 Speaker 3: It kind of sucks to see what's happened this year 269 00:13:10,480 --> 00:13:13,080 Speaker 3: and potentially next year. I think I think Helton's kids 270 00:13:13,120 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 3: like playing the Bowl game. 271 00:13:14,480 --> 00:13:15,480 Speaker 2: I think we'll to check on that. 272 00:13:15,600 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 1: Speaking of two shoutouts, one too stuck for putting together 273 00:13:19,440 --> 00:13:23,319 Speaker 1: the tracker for all opt outs transfers, you know, getting. 274 00:13:23,000 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 2: Ready for the Senior Bowl. 275 00:13:24,040 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: Coaching changes, and also a shout out to you, Mike 276 00:13:26,360 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: for putting together the ongoing living document that is, who's 277 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:32,280 Speaker 1: going to be playing quarterback for my school in the 278 00:13:32,360 --> 00:13:35,200 Speaker 1: Year of Our Lord twenty twenty four. Not an easy 279 00:13:35,240 --> 00:13:37,920 Speaker 1: thing to keep track of, because when one domino falls, 280 00:13:38,240 --> 00:13:40,800 Speaker 1: it seems to have this ripple effect throughout college football. 281 00:13:40,880 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: So that's something that you're updating. You said, Is it 282 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:44,400 Speaker 1: on a daily basis at this point? 283 00:13:44,600 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean twice a day based on the news 284 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,319 Speaker 3: pretty much. It's cool to track, like to try to 285 00:13:50,320 --> 00:13:53,000 Speaker 3: get ahead of like you see it every year with 286 00:13:53,080 --> 00:13:57,560 Speaker 3: the either the lower level Power five guys looking for 287 00:13:57,600 --> 00:14:01,280 Speaker 3: a fresh start or even some Power five backups that 288 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:04,280 Speaker 3: you know, I'm kind of interested to see, you know, 289 00:14:04,320 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: where some of these names take us, because you know, 290 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 3: you've got Wake Forest, like Mitch Griffiths just left Wake 291 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:10,080 Speaker 3: and now he just. 292 00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:10,960 Speaker 2: Committed to Marshall. 293 00:14:11,040 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: You know, we talked about cam Bansher being in the portal, 294 00:14:13,360 --> 00:14:15,240 Speaker 3: and then you have some you know, Florida State, AJ 295 00:14:15,400 --> 00:14:18,280 Speaker 3: Duffy just transfer. I forget where he ended up now, 296 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:20,560 Speaker 3: but a J Duffies, you know, just transferred to a 297 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:23,720 Speaker 3: G five school, and you have you know, Rutgers backup 298 00:14:23,800 --> 00:14:25,560 Speaker 3: just went to Temple, and you kind of have that like, 299 00:14:26,240 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 3: all right, we think of them as bad because they're 300 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 3: playing in the you know, big ten or SEC, but 301 00:14:30,840 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 3: can they have success at the lower ucks. We've seen 302 00:14:33,120 --> 00:14:35,440 Speaker 3: it time and time, you know, We've seen guys drop 303 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:38,160 Speaker 3: down at Rocky Lombardi and immediately win a conference title. 304 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:40,960 Speaker 3: So that's one of my favorite part about doing it, 305 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 3: is like, to me, the tracker is not helpful for like, oh, 306 00:14:44,760 --> 00:14:47,240 Speaker 3: Will Rogers is going to Washington because like everyone on 307 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:49,480 Speaker 3: the planet's tweeting about it, so people know that. So 308 00:14:49,520 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 3: I think it's it's for our pod listeners who love 309 00:14:52,480 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 3: these teams. Like, to me, that's where it's the most helpful. 310 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:58,480 Speaker 3: From is like, all right, you know Michael Prass leaving Tulane, 311 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:00,520 Speaker 3: who's going to be Tulaine's quarterback next They don't have 312 00:15:00,520 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 3: it yet, but like, as soon as it's somewhere, I'll 313 00:15:03,160 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 3: find it and I'll put it in there for you guys. 314 00:15:05,040 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 3: So that's kind of I do more for our listeners, 315 00:15:07,840 --> 00:15:09,880 Speaker 3: but obviously I put the big guys in there too 316 00:15:09,960 --> 00:15:10,640 Speaker 3: to get the clicks. 317 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,600 Speaker 1: I know our listeners can't wait to find out where 318 00:15:13,600 --> 00:15:15,080 Speaker 1: Hank Bachmeyer is transferred. 319 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 2: Don't worry. 320 00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 1: He isn't dead. He's not a witness protection. He's at 321 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,200 Speaker 1: Wake Forest, So you're gonna have to move up to 322 00:15:20,240 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 1: the power five level to watch him go for eighteen 323 00:15:23,280 --> 00:15:24,920 Speaker 1: hundred yards and then get injured next year. 324 00:15:24,960 --> 00:15:25,680 Speaker 2: I can only so. 325 00:15:26,120 --> 00:15:29,680 Speaker 3: Shout out to Pete Rudin, our editor in chief, who 326 00:15:29,880 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 3: edited my thing. He did tense for me a little 327 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:37,920 Speaker 3: bit because I actually wrote word for word. Former Boyds 328 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,280 Speaker 3: State in Louisiana Tech quarterback Hank Meyer transferred into Wake Forest, 329 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:44,240 Speaker 3: but he sucked, so they still need an upgrade. He 330 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:47,560 Speaker 3: edited it to former Boid State and Louisiana Tech quarterback 331 00:15:47,560 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 3: Hank boach My transferred in, but the Deeks could still 332 00:15:49,960 --> 00:15:50,400 Speaker 3: do better. 333 00:15:50,960 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 2: Yeah. 334 00:15:51,240 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: I mean that's what you get with a big J 335 00:15:53,920 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: Capitol J journalism degree, So you know, trying to be 336 00:15:57,040 --> 00:15:58,480 Speaker 1: even handed in that regard. 337 00:15:58,560 --> 00:15:59,920 Speaker 3: I wouldn't say big Jay he would die. 338 00:16:00,760 --> 00:16:02,800 Speaker 2: Oh oh boy. 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And hell Afresh 376 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,840 Speaker 1: as a user for years, I use in New York City, 377 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: I use them now, you know, living in the suburbs. 378 00:17:49,200 --> 00:17:51,040 Speaker 1: It comes really fast, so all you gotta do is order. 379 00:17:51,080 --> 00:17:52,240 Speaker 1: It's at your doorstep before. 380 00:17:52,080 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 2: You know it. 381 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:54,800 Speaker 1: All right, we are going to wrap up here with 382 00:17:54,880 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: some final thoughts on the twelve team playoff that is 383 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,640 Speaker 1: going to debut next season, which is going to give 384 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 1: a seat at the table to the highest rated Group 385 00:18:04,200 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 1: of five champion. So instead of needing to go like 386 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:09,479 Speaker 1: twenty three and Oho over two years as UCF and 387 00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:12,960 Speaker 1: you know, unsuccessfully tried to do and then Cincinnati successfully 388 00:18:12,960 --> 00:18:15,439 Speaker 1: did you know, knocking the door down. Now, all you 389 00:18:15,440 --> 00:18:18,280 Speaker 1: gotta do is climb over all of those G five 390 00:18:18,359 --> 00:18:21,000 Speaker 1: champs on the way up the ladder, probably go undefeated, 391 00:18:21,160 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: and then you're gonna get an opportunity to either host 392 00:18:23,600 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: a game or have to go on the road and 393 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:28,239 Speaker 1: play your way into you know, from the twelve to 394 00:18:28,280 --> 00:18:30,880 Speaker 1: the eight to the four to the national championship game. 395 00:18:31,280 --> 00:18:33,440 Speaker 1: So I'll start with you, Ianello, who's the G five 396 00:18:33,520 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: team that you're most bullish on for twenty twenty four 397 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,040 Speaker 1: to get to that first twelve team playoff? 398 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:40,119 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm going with one. You might not expect me 399 00:18:40,160 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 3: to say, I'm going with Memphis. 400 00:18:42,440 --> 00:18:44,440 Speaker 2: I think you can look at Memphis. 401 00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:48,919 Speaker 3: Yeah, you look at the AAC and you got Smu leaving, 402 00:18:49,119 --> 00:18:52,320 Speaker 3: you got Tulane changing coaches, you got Michael Pratt gone, 403 00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 3: you got Utsa losing Frank Harris. So you kind of 404 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:57,760 Speaker 3: have the big dogs in the AAC out of the way. 405 00:18:58,440 --> 00:19:00,480 Speaker 3: And for the Tigers, you got Seth Henning back for 406 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 3: his fourth season as a starter. He just continues to 407 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:06,919 Speaker 3: get better Blake Watson has another year eligibility. Rock Taylor 408 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,879 Speaker 3: and to me, blank blankam Se are both returning. And 409 00:19:10,920 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 3: we've seen Memphis do this before. You know, they reached 410 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 3: the Cotton Bowl under Mike Norvel. That was the game 411 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 3: they lost to Penn State where Johnny Brown had like 412 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:21,120 Speaker 3: two hundred yards and Mike Parsons was Michael Parsons had 413 00:19:21,160 --> 00:19:23,960 Speaker 3: maybe one of the best defensive games I've ever seen 414 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:27,239 Speaker 3: a defender have. But you know, they had two ten 415 00:19:27,280 --> 00:19:29,680 Speaker 3: wins sceanes under Novel. They had a ten win season 416 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:33,000 Speaker 3: under Justin Flente. So they're in such a good spot 417 00:19:33,080 --> 00:19:34,160 Speaker 3: for recruiting as well. 418 00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:34,720 Speaker 2: I think they have. 419 00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:37,639 Speaker 3: They're just they have such a good access to talent 420 00:19:38,080 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 3: when you look. I was looking through their recruiting classes. 421 00:19:40,720 --> 00:19:46,760 Speaker 3: So they were second in the AAC last year's recruiting class, 422 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 3: fourth in twenty twenty two, only behind Cincinnati, UCF, and 423 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 3: Houston who are all gone. Second in twenty twenty one 424 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 3: behind Cincinnati who's gone. So you look at it, they 425 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,000 Speaker 3: basically had the top class in the conference the last 426 00:20:00,160 --> 00:20:03,520 Speaker 3: three years. So yeah, Memphis is my pick, especially next 427 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,920 Speaker 3: year with Hennigan back. I mean, can they just get 428 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:08,800 Speaker 3: any stops is gonna be the key because they can 429 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:12,639 Speaker 3: outscore everybody. So it'll just come down to over the 430 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,720 Speaker 3: off season, if I throw some money at some basically 431 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:17,760 Speaker 3: what SMU did. If they can throw some money at 432 00:20:17,760 --> 00:20:22,880 Speaker 3: some Power five defenders and turn the defense to league average, 433 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,680 Speaker 3: I think Memphis can win the AEC next year, and 434 00:20:27,280 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: typically we'll see the G five representative come from the 435 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: American I think, so give me Memphis. I like what 436 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:33,520 Speaker 3: they're doing. 437 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 1: Over there was walking in my feet. 438 00:20:41,119 --> 00:20:41,399 Speaker 3: Walk. 439 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:52,560 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go a little bit gutsier and it's gonna 440 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: require them to do some work in the transfer portal. 441 00:20:54,880 --> 00:20:58,199 Speaker 1: But you brought it up, this idea of uh, you know, 442 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:03,600 Speaker 1: lower tier five quarterback or perhaps an upper tier backup 443 00:21:03,640 --> 00:21:08,159 Speaker 1: who's just buried on the depth chart. Utsa from a 444 00:21:08,200 --> 00:21:12,160 Speaker 1: program building perspective, to me, has done really as good 445 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,080 Speaker 1: of a job as you possibly can. And now they 446 00:21:14,119 --> 00:21:16,439 Speaker 1: go ahead and they retain their head coach. And I 447 00:21:16,480 --> 00:21:18,880 Speaker 1: understand they're losing doctor Frank Harris, But when you look 448 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: at the stats this year, they weren't throw the ball 449 00:21:22,280 --> 00:21:25,040 Speaker 1: forty times a game team anymore. All of a sudden, 450 00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 1: they turned into a balanced offense. They weren't overally reliant 451 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: on Harris, and that's why I think they're one B 452 00:21:30,920 --> 00:21:34,560 Speaker 1: plus quarterback get in the portal away from being, you know, 453 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:36,719 Speaker 1: one of the co favorites in the AAC. And if 454 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:39,000 Speaker 1: you are one of the co favorites, you know, when 455 00:21:39,080 --> 00:21:41,359 Speaker 1: you look at Conference USA, what they have coming back, 456 00:21:41,520 --> 00:21:43,320 Speaker 1: what the MAC has coming back, it's really going to 457 00:21:43,359 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: be the AAC, the Sun Belt or the Mountain West. 458 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:47,760 Speaker 1: And I think there's going to be a lot of 459 00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:51,120 Speaker 1: roster turnover, and the Sun Belt there's some coaching turnover. 460 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:51,920 Speaker 2: In the Mountain West. 461 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,920 Speaker 1: I think the AAC is perfectly primed for a team 462 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,080 Speaker 1: like UTSA to come, you know, to elevate their game. 463 00:21:58,680 --> 00:21:59,400 Speaker 2: They were right there. 464 00:21:59,480 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 1: If they don't the Bowl over five times and the 465 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:03,800 Speaker 1: season finale against Tulane, they go to the AC title game. 466 00:22:03,840 --> 00:22:06,000 Speaker 1: In their very first year, they had won back to 467 00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:09,440 Speaker 1: back Conference to ESSA titles. So I think this program 468 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,000 Speaker 1: has the experience. I think they have to buy in 469 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,639 Speaker 1: from the community. Let's see if they have any nil money, 470 00:22:13,720 --> 00:22:16,760 Speaker 1: you know, in the couch to go get themselves a starter, 471 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,160 Speaker 1: because if they can, they can spend you know, five 472 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,000 Speaker 1: hundred grand to get the right kid in the door. 473 00:22:21,400 --> 00:22:24,159 Speaker 1: I think they're not necessarily one player away, but the 474 00:22:24,200 --> 00:22:26,320 Speaker 1: way that they built themselves up, I think they're primed 475 00:22:26,320 --> 00:22:27,320 Speaker 1: to be in the conversation. 476 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, I like to pick. 477 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 3: I think, you know, we talked about this last year, 478 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:32,399 Speaker 3: and I'm interested to see this year going four. I 479 00:22:32,400 --> 00:22:34,240 Speaker 3: think it's still a little early because I think guys 480 00:22:34,680 --> 00:22:36,960 Speaker 3: want to wait to see where the Power five guys 481 00:22:37,040 --> 00:22:39,800 Speaker 3: go first. But we saw last year with you know 482 00:22:40,080 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 3: that while the portal can sometimes sock for the G 483 00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:45,960 Speaker 3: five where you know, you lose the top guys, I 484 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:47,760 Speaker 3: think we see that happen a little bit more at 485 00:22:47,800 --> 00:22:50,879 Speaker 3: like Wide Receiver where you mentioned with the end. I 486 00:22:50,920 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: think the nil is good for G five because it's like, 487 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:57,399 Speaker 3: are you going to get paid more? You know every 488 00:22:57,440 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 3: college has money. You mentioned it. Are you going to 489 00:22:59,240 --> 00:23:01,560 Speaker 3: get paid more to be utsa starter or to be 490 00:23:01,800 --> 00:23:05,120 Speaker 3: Ohio State's backup? You know? And you think about too, 491 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 3: like last year we saw it with you know, to 492 00:23:07,880 --> 00:23:10,359 Speaker 3: keep Frank Harris. You know, we had we had Frank Harris, 493 00:23:10,359 --> 00:23:12,800 Speaker 3: Michael Pratt, Grayson McCall all kind of flirt with the 494 00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 3: portal and I assume they got paid to stay and 495 00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:18,399 Speaker 3: you know Austin Reid came back, not that that that 496 00:23:18,480 --> 00:23:21,479 Speaker 3: was didn't work, but he got a red Corvette to stay. 497 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:25,440 Speaker 3: So I'm very curious if we'll see, you know, Byron Brown, 498 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,760 Speaker 3: I'm assuming he got it back to stay at South Florida. 499 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:32,679 Speaker 3: I'm curious if we'll see, you know, now that Curtis 500 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:37,440 Speaker 3: Rourke committed to Indiana, which you know, does Jordan McLeod 501 00:23:37,480 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 3: get a bag to stay at JMU like some of 502 00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:42,360 Speaker 3: these guys that jumped into portal, I think we could 503 00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:45,600 Speaker 3: see them stay. So I'm I'll be interested to see, 504 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,200 Speaker 3: as you know, selfish plug keep it, keep your eyes 505 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 3: out on my QB tracker. But I'm curious to see, 506 00:23:50,600 --> 00:23:54,360 Speaker 3: you know, which G five guys that can maybe considered 507 00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: for the rumors with un l V with Jada Malva. 508 00:23:57,280 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 3: It was not gotten in the portal. Temple's another one. 509 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:02,439 Speaker 3: Does Temple throw a bag at EJ. Warner to get 510 00:24:02,480 --> 00:24:04,760 Speaker 3: him to stay? I don't know how much money Temple has, 511 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:07,320 Speaker 3: but you got to think they're trying to get him 512 00:24:07,359 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 3: to come back. So I'm interined to see that as 513 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,120 Speaker 3: the off season progresses, how many of these G five 514 00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:17,600 Speaker 3: guys return and then how many kind of wishy washy 515 00:24:17,720 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 3: Power five guys can make more being a G five 516 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:23,439 Speaker 3: starter than a Power five backup. So I think if 517 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:26,000 Speaker 3: these teams can use nil to their advantage, we'll see 518 00:24:26,080 --> 00:24:27,800 Speaker 3: kind of those those teams will still be able to 519 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 3: stay good quickly. 520 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 2: So I'm excited. 521 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,560 Speaker 3: I think it's good for the G five. 522 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:31,960 Speaker 2: All Right, it's the holiday season. 523 00:24:31,960 --> 00:24:34,560 Speaker 1: That also means this thank you season here on BBOC 524 00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: as we wrap up the G five podcasts for the year, 525 00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 1: I'd like to thank you I Llo for all the 526 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:40,800 Speaker 1: great work and. 527 00:24:40,880 --> 00:24:42,280 Speaker 2: Research you've done. 528 00:24:42,440 --> 00:24:46,199 Speaker 1: I couldn't have been the conductor of the PAVIA podcast 529 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:47,680 Speaker 1: Locomotive without you. 530 00:24:47,760 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 2: We rolled together. 531 00:24:49,119 --> 00:24:51,840 Speaker 1: We were pulling people off the platform, getting them on 532 00:24:51,880 --> 00:24:52,240 Speaker 1: the train. 533 00:24:52,760 --> 00:24:55,440 Speaker 2: And really, you know, going through some of. 534 00:24:55,359 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: These games you have to watch on ESPN plus that 535 00:24:57,840 --> 00:24:59,840 Speaker 1: you have to watch on stadium streaming, you think to 536 00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 1: your yourself sometimes, is anyone else watching this? And I 537 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,040 Speaker 1: always know I could text you and you'd be like, 538 00:25:04,040 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: I can't believe this guy sucks. And I'd always be like, Okay, 539 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: all right, let's pump the brakes a little bit, let's 540 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 1: pump some positivity into it. But I couldn't do the 541 00:25:11,000 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 1: show quite literally, without you, So I appreciate you. I 542 00:25:13,840 --> 00:25:16,320 Speaker 1: appreciate David Pain, our producer on the back end. You're 543 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:19,280 Speaker 1: doing a good job, David putting together all the sound drops, 544 00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 1: talking us through you know, the ad reads, everything that 545 00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:25,320 Speaker 1: gets done on the video size. Well, our video team, 546 00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:28,440 Speaker 1: Action Hour does a phenomenal job. We can't thank them enough. 547 00:25:28,720 --> 00:25:31,399 Speaker 1: Our esteemed main producer Matt Mitchell. 548 00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:34,200 Speaker 2: Okay, last but not least, Uncle Mitch. 549 00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:36,320 Speaker 1: Pulling the strings from the top of the podcast. And 550 00:25:36,359 --> 00:25:39,119 Speaker 1: that's across all of our shows, the recap show, the 551 00:25:39,160 --> 00:25:41,680 Speaker 1: New BCS, the G five show, the main show with 552 00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 1: Colin's Stuck, so many you know, new moving parts. This season, 553 00:25:46,240 --> 00:25:49,040 Speaker 1: bring in Tim Kalanowski. I really loved working with him 554 00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:51,520 Speaker 1: on the player props on Fridays. We'll bring that back 555 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:53,880 Speaker 1: for a couple of Bowl episodes as well, so check 556 00:25:53,920 --> 00:25:55,720 Speaker 1: that out over on YouTube. But I just want to 557 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,040 Speaker 1: say thank you to the entire team, and also to 558 00:25:58,080 --> 00:25:58,760 Speaker 1: Colin and Stuck. 559 00:25:58,840 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 2: This guy's a cool who. 560 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:02,280 Speaker 1: If they weren't driving the main boat, no one would 561 00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:04,720 Speaker 1: be able to follow here. We're just jet skiing behind them. 562 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,160 Speaker 1: So really appreciate everything that they've done building the brands, 563 00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:11,240 Speaker 1: you know, just particularly on Stuck side, just print and winners, 564 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,359 Speaker 1: the guy knows trash football, as he likes to affectionately 565 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,240 Speaker 1: call it, better than anybody, and the Mac is Mac 566 00:26:18,320 --> 00:26:21,600 Speaker 1: Manifesto both in the preseason and during the season as well. 567 00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,399 Speaker 1: There's so many great things and easter eggs within this 568 00:26:24,440 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 1: program that get created because we have a great team. 569 00:26:26,560 --> 00:26:28,560 Speaker 1: So it was a long way of saying thank you 570 00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:30,480 Speaker 1: to everybody that I work with, and thank you to 571 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:31,040 Speaker 1: the listeners. 572 00:26:31,440 --> 00:26:33,680 Speaker 2: We had a big bump this year in listenership. 573 00:26:33,920 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: We had, you know, just the first batch of numbers 574 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,359 Speaker 1: come through for the whole year. The big thing that 575 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,080 Speaker 1: stuck out to us was that people were engaged, they 576 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: were listening to the majority of every single episode. 577 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:44,360 Speaker 2: They were coming back. 578 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:48,360 Speaker 1: We saw it in our comments on you know, Apple iTunes, 579 00:26:48,560 --> 00:26:51,280 Speaker 1: our comments on YouTube, people you know dming us. 580 00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:51,840 Speaker 2: Throughout the year. 581 00:26:51,880 --> 00:26:54,960 Speaker 1: We really appreciated the show doesn't exist without the fans 582 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:56,440 Speaker 1: and without this burgeon and community. 583 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:57,360 Speaker 2: So thank you so much. 584 00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,399 Speaker 3: Yeah, I'll you know, second, everything you said, you know, 585 00:27:00,680 --> 00:27:03,399 Speaker 3: shout out. You know our producers Colin and Stuck, you 586 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:06,400 Speaker 3: get just I mean, look at some of the numbers 587 00:27:06,440 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 3: Colin put up. Colin had a monster season begging this year. 588 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 3: You know, I tell him a ton. He made everyone 589 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:16,240 Speaker 3: who listens so much money Stucky as well. Just I 590 00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:18,400 Speaker 3: don't know how Stucky's brain even works the way he does. 591 00:27:18,400 --> 00:27:20,320 Speaker 3: I mean to be able to come up with NFL 592 00:27:20,359 --> 00:27:22,680 Speaker 3: and calls winners the way he does it. And you know, yeah, 593 00:27:22,720 --> 00:27:24,560 Speaker 3: Stucky Piely has a month here too. He doesn't Fane 594 00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 3: Diego every week. But other than that, he was money. 595 00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 3: So the two of them are geniusesn't you know? Half 596 00:27:30,480 --> 00:27:33,720 Speaker 3: the half the stuff we say we're you know, getting 597 00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:35,800 Speaker 3: from them. I use Colin's numbers and everything I do 598 00:27:35,880 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 3: as well, So they're so helpful for us. They you know, 599 00:27:38,560 --> 00:27:40,320 Speaker 3: they kind of if I have questions, I can text 600 00:27:40,320 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 3: them and they'll they'll help me out. And yeah, I 601 00:27:42,560 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: love doing this pot with you. It's so much fun, 602 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,639 Speaker 3: you know, living closer to you now and you know, 603 00:27:46,720 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 3: be able to go over for dinner and have dinner 604 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:50,639 Speaker 3: with your wife and kids is so much fun. And 605 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,359 Speaker 3: you mentioned it to me. My favorite part about this 606 00:27:54,440 --> 00:27:58,000 Speaker 3: show is the listeners, the fans. We have such a 607 00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,159 Speaker 3: cult following as such a like you know, we pride 608 00:28:01,160 --> 00:28:04,720 Speaker 3: ourselves and being the little guys and being like we know, yeah, 609 00:28:04,760 --> 00:28:07,359 Speaker 3: we have less listeners in sucking Colin, but you know, 610 00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:10,680 Speaker 3: Reason was telling me, like, our listeners listen the whole show, 611 00:28:10,800 --> 00:28:13,160 Speaker 3: and they listen every week, and like our numbers don't 612 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:15,960 Speaker 3: go up and down because it's a big Oh Alabama's 613 00:28:15,960 --> 00:28:18,359 Speaker 3: playing Georgia this week and then everyone's gonna be like, no, 614 00:28:18,960 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 3: our listeners ride or die with us from day one. 615 00:28:22,240 --> 00:28:25,040 Speaker 3: And there's nothing that brings more joy to my heart 616 00:28:25,160 --> 00:28:29,040 Speaker 3: than seeing you degenerate lunatics, you know, play the Diego 617 00:28:29,119 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 3: song in your in your freaking living room. And you know, 618 00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 3: when me and Breeze watched the Conference style game together, 619 00:28:34,359 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 3: our phones or our wives are like, what the hell 620 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 3: are you two doing? Because our phones would not stop 621 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 3: buzzing every time New Mexico State scored. We eat, we 622 00:28:42,320 --> 00:28:45,200 Speaker 3: each get tagged in fifty tweets being like Dada da Diego. 623 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,160 Speaker 3: It's like it's it makes me so happy the amount 624 00:28:48,200 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 3: of tweets I'm getting, being like you have to name 625 00:28:49,760 --> 00:28:52,600 Speaker 3: your child day. I'm like, I had like, I'm like Dana. 626 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,920 Speaker 2: I'm getting a lot of pressure on here. She's like, 627 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:58,120 Speaker 2: the Internet's not real. I'm like, but the fans are, and. 628 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,000 Speaker 3: They're gonna be like, there's a part of me that's 629 00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,200 Speaker 3: like I want him to be born before the game, 630 00:29:02,280 --> 00:29:04,520 Speaker 3: so I don't have like the pressure of like, shit, 631 00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:06,360 Speaker 3: we may have, we may have. I had two people 632 00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:09,560 Speaker 3: arguing my mentions today, ones like you guy named Diego 633 00:29:09,560 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 3: and someone's like, no, he already Ricky Ronnie already claimed 634 00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:15,200 Speaker 3: the name. So I'm like, we might have to have 635 00:29:15,200 --> 00:29:17,240 Speaker 3: a conversation with my with my wife about that. But 636 00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 3: our listeners are the best. We do it every year, 637 00:29:19,600 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 3: you know, from Zappi to Diego. Thank you guys so 638 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:25,640 Speaker 3: much for listening, thank you for following our picks, thank 639 00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 3: you for just being here for the fun, the ups 640 00:29:28,240 --> 00:29:30,200 Speaker 3: and downs. I think we do a pretty good job 641 00:29:30,240 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 3: of giving out winners. But this pod has never been 642 00:29:32,360 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 3: about like we're gonna help you make more money. It's like, no, 643 00:29:35,640 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 3: we're gonna help you have fun while you win. I 644 00:29:38,120 --> 00:29:39,560 Speaker 3: think we do a really good job at that, and 645 00:29:39,600 --> 00:29:41,920 Speaker 3: our listeners are the reason why. So, like Bree said, 646 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:44,479 Speaker 3: thank you guys so much for everything, and hopefully we'll 647 00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,480 Speaker 3: be back again next year. 648 00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:49,480 Speaker 1: The last part here, you talked about winners as this tradition, 649 00:29:49,560 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: I like to give out a parlay to Ianello David 650 00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,240 Speaker 1: who was our producer, and Matt Mitchell that each took 651 00:29:55,320 --> 00:29:57,320 Speaker 1: one leg, so I want to share that with the audience. 652 00:29:57,400 --> 00:30:00,680 Speaker 1: This three leg pays plus six twenty got air Force 653 00:30:00,720 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: money line Northwestern plus seven in the Las Vegas Bowl, 654 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:08,320 Speaker 1: agains Utah and ian ELO's contribution the Farewell game for 655 00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: Craig Bowl minus one forty eight on the money line 656 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,040 Speaker 1: against Toledo. As I said, all three of those together 657 00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 1: pay plus six twenty, so I really should tail two 658 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:19,040 Speaker 1: real quick. 659 00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,480 Speaker 3: Special shout out to David Payne David Payne DP for 660 00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:26,840 Speaker 3: playing a very good little prank on me and Calabreeze. 661 00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,800 Speaker 3: He mailed he lived in New Mexico, and he mailed 662 00:30:30,920 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 3: us both, I'm holding it up on YouTube, New Mexico 663 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 3: State Aggie's pennants so that we both got and with 664 00:30:37,880 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 3: a little index card that said go Aggie's signed DP 665 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,400 Speaker 3: and Calibri's got it first. And he texted me and 666 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 3: he's like, DP, wait you know, And I had a 667 00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 3: second I was like holy shit, and then then it 668 00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,600 Speaker 3: hit me like five minutes later, and you texted David 669 00:30:55,680 --> 00:30:57,560 Speaker 3: and he did fest up clearly, but there was a 670 00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,240 Speaker 3: split second red ball for like, dude, did da just 671 00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:02,520 Speaker 3: send us penance, So shout out to David Payne, thank 672 00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,800 Speaker 3: you for the pennant, but also for a hilarious little 673 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:06,640 Speaker 3: almost gotcha moment there for. 674 00:31:06,640 --> 00:31:10,120 Speaker 2: Us legendary prankster and my personal hero. 675 00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,280 Speaker 1: I look forward to like four years from now, when 676 00:31:12,320 --> 00:31:15,000 Speaker 1: Diego washes out of the CFL and he's on LinkedIn 677 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:17,760 Speaker 1: looking to connect. Can't wait to connect with you, buddy, 678 00:31:17,960 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 1: when you're a business development rep for some startup. So 679 00:31:21,640 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: there's time in the future for us to be best friends. 680 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 1: It doesn't have to be right now. For Mike Ianello 681 00:31:25,240 --> 00:31:27,200 Speaker 1: on Mike Calabaries, this has been the Group of Five 682 00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:30,320 Speaker 1: Deep Dive under the BBOC banner. We will be back 683 00:31:30,400 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: next season with more Group of Five action. You can 684 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: also check out all of the Bowl you know previews 685 00:31:36,520 --> 00:31:38,680 Speaker 1: that Colin and Stuck are putting together. They already have 686 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 1: a few out they're going to keep coming in the 687 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 1: next two weeks. They want to get you information closer 688 00:31:43,120 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: to kickoff, as well as a huge show previewing the 689 00:31:45,800 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 1: national title game. 690 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:48,920 Speaker 2: And as I've teased before, there's gonna be a lot 691 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,480 Speaker 2: of college. 692 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: Basketball content I'm going to be a part of with 693 00:31:51,120 --> 00:31:54,440 Speaker 1: Stuck in the coming weeks as well, so make sure 694 00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:58,480 Speaker 1: to refresh your podcast feeds because BBOC steems along into 695 00:31:58,480 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four. 696 00:31:59,440 --> 00:32:00,520 Speaker 2: Thanks so much for wist. 697 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:17,800 Speaker 1: Action Network reminds you please gamble responsibly. If you or 698 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,600 Speaker 1: someone you care about has a gambling problem, help is 699 00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,720 Speaker 1: available twenty four to seven at one eight hundred. Gambler 700 00:32:25,120 --> 00:32:27,040 Speaker 1: diah car diecle