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Speaker 1: Welcome back to another episode of Two Minute Drill here

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Speaker 1: on Indianapolis Colts Podcasts. As always, I'm Amana Foster, joined

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Speaker 1: once again this week by Casey Valier. I can't get

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Speaker 1: rid of you. I love having you. Ahead of the

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Speaker 1: Colts Week four game against the Los Angeles Rams at

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Speaker 1: SOFI Stadium, So a big one all the way across

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Speaker 1: the country. But like we always do, first got to

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Speaker 1: start off this episode with injury updates, and we've got

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Speaker 1: some big ones this week. Alec Pierce who has a concussion,

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Speaker 1: Kenny Moore the second who has an achilles injury, and

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Speaker 1: then mackensoalve Is with a toe. None of them will

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Speaker 1: be active for this game on Sunday. Pearson Moore both

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Speaker 1: sustain their injuries against the Titans, so their absences are

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Speaker 1: not necessarily a surprise. We're kind of expecting the severity

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Speaker 1: of them. How careful you want to be with first

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Speaker 1: of all concussion but also an achilles injury. But the

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Speaker 1: Macknsalvez one, he didn't practice it all this week, but

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Speaker 1: it felt like it was a little bit under the

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Speaker 1: radar compared to Pierson more but then when you look

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Speaker 1: at it, that's as big of a loss on the

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Speaker 1: offensive line as any of these other guys.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I mean the way I've kind of described

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Speaker 2: the More and Pierce injuries, if you will going into Sunday,

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Speaker 2: is you kind of expected them because of one just

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Speaker 2: the severity of the injuries that sustained, especially when Shane

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Speaker 2: kind of re went back on Kenny on Wednesday saying

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Speaker 2: it's the calf, but it's also a little bit more

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Speaker 2: in the Achilles. That's always a big red flag, a

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Speaker 2: little caution there. So you know, the benefit is doesn't

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Speaker 2: look like at this point he's still This is I

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Speaker 2: think the third time that he has mentioned it that

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Speaker 2: he doesn't think i AR is a possibility right now,

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Speaker 2: which is a very good sign for you know, how

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Speaker 2: quickly Kenny Moore can you back on the field. And

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Speaker 2: he hasn't really put a timetable on it. I know

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Speaker 2: some people are like, is it day to day, is

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Speaker 2: it week to week? We don't really know, But with

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Speaker 2: him not being on IR, you would think it's a

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Speaker 2: little bit more short term than long term. And with Pierce,

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Speaker 2: it's the same thing we talked about with Sharvarius Ward

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Speaker 2: with the cushions. You just don't really know, you know

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Speaker 2: how quickly some guys can can get back with something

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Speaker 2: area you don't really want to, you know, try to

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Speaker 2: rush at all. But no, you're you're right on the

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Speaker 2: right on the money there with Mackinsolvez, just because he

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Speaker 2: didn't leave the game. I know, we all remember the

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Speaker 2: player got hurt, but he finished the game, so he thought,

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Speaker 2: you know, he's okay. But a lot of times you

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Speaker 2: finish the game that next day you're a little more sore.

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Speaker 2: It might start to swell. You know, his is a toe.

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Speaker 1: And you know, and those are also you know, you

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Speaker 1: never know.

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Speaker 2: It's one of those things. It's same with like you know,

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Speaker 2: you talk about it with bigs in basketball, and it's

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Speaker 2: it's bigs in their feet. Those are it's one of

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Speaker 2: those things you gotta really, you know, tread lightly because

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Speaker 2: they can just continue to kind of roll over into

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Speaker 2: something else. So they're definitely going a little more cautious

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Speaker 2: with Gonzolvez. One of the benefits you have with this

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Speaker 2: Colts offensive line is there is some pretty good depth,

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Speaker 2: especially interior. I mean, it looks like Dalton Tucker will

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Speaker 2: be the guy who gets start. He had you know,

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Speaker 2: seven starts last year and I know at the end

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Speaker 2: of the year they did bring in Mark Lewinsky. It's

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Speaker 2: kind of replaced Dalton Tucker. But also Danny Pinter is

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Speaker 2: so you've got some pretty good depth there. I don't

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Speaker 2: know if Josh Sills is a guy they might bring up.

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Speaker 2: He's a guy who has played guard as well in

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Speaker 2: the past. So when it comes to the interior of

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Speaker 2: have your full arsenal, especially against a Rams team that is,

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Speaker 2: you know, one of the better defenses that you're gonna

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Speaker 2: more comfortable with guys that are familiar with the offensive line.

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Speaker 2: Guys that have already started, they've got familiar guys they're

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Speaker 2: playing around. Yes, so that is a benefit for Dalton

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Speaker 2: Tucker if he does and in fact get the start

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Speaker 2: on Sunday. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Well, and speaking of you know, new faces guys getting

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Speaker 1: caught up, Mike Helton expected to be called up from

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Speaker 1: the practice squad tomorrow on Saturday. Recording this On Friday,

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Speaker 1: ULT signed Mike Helton to the practice squad on Tuesday.

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Speaker 2: Ye.

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Speaker 1: Yes, he's an exciting one, partly because he's got four

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Speaker 1: years of experience playing under lou Anroumo with the Bengals

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Speaker 1: from twenty twenty one to twenty twenty four and in

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Speaker 1: that time period was the best in quarnerback.

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Speaker 2: In the league.

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Speaker 1: So that in the sense that helped most likely fill

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Speaker 1: in for in the slot as a cornerback for more

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that's going to play out. Is

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Speaker 2: Right And with with Mike Hilton, he's a guy he's

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Speaker 2: spent you know, off season in training camp with the Dolphins.

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Speaker 2: You talked about the familiarity you had with lou and Rumo.

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Speaker 2: The first place he visited once he was released by

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Speaker 2: like we talked to him in the locker room on Wednesday.

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Speaker 2: It sounds like there was kind of an understanding of, Hey,

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Speaker 2: we're not going to sign you. Right now, but you know,

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Speaker 2: keep your phone on if something happen happens, you know,

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Speaker 2: And so they caught him up, I mean very quickly

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Speaker 2: quickly with the Kenny Moore injury. And if you kind

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Speaker 2: of look at his career, in Kenny Moore's career over

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Speaker 2: the last handful of years, they have been two of

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Speaker 2: arguably the best nickels in football. So yeah, they're both

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Speaker 1: But we know that a likes his experience, yes.

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Speaker 2: And that's part of it as well. With if you

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Speaker 2: So it's definitely, you know, a pretty easy transition. If

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Speaker 2: But you know, Mike Hilton, you talk about that veteran experience.

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Speaker 2: This is a guy who has played at a very

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Speaker 2: very high level inside the lunarumo defense, played against these

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Speaker 2: the opposing side, Pukakua is probably one of the better

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Speaker 2: Now he does kind of move around, but he's probably

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Well, and you let in perfectly to what I

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Speaker 1: wanted to talk about next, which is this Rams offense.

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Speaker 2: Because I'm looking at it, which is well, I mean, you.

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Speaker 1: Got the big computer screen right here, Yeah, we could

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Speaker 1: with this Rams team, who are being looked at as possible,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you talk about not a stab of the Broncos.

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Speaker 2: The Broncos are a team that many have thought maybe

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Speaker 2: really tall task for both Colts offense and Colts defense.

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Speaker 2: But sticking with them offensively, what Matthew Stafford can do,

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Speaker 2: On offense, they can compete with just about anybody. So

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Speaker 2: it's gonna be a really tough tak It's especially going

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Speaker 1: It's gonna be It's gonna be an exciting one. I

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Speaker 1: think one last thing to touch on as well, going back,

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Speaker 1: this is very offensive heavy podcast. Without Alec Pierce. How

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Speaker 1: the Colts will handle their offense. We've seen Daniel Jones,

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Speaker 1: He's obviously able to hit those deep shots. This is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean one of these things we've talked about

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Speaker 2: Tyler Warren in there. Oh yeah, there's just not enough

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Speaker 2: balls to go around you will. I mean Pittman's I mean,

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Speaker 1: So and he hasn't had a ton of chances, but

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Speaker 1: the ones that he's gotten he's done well. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So when you look at you know, what his production

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Speaker 2: But this is a real good opportunity for him, especially

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Speaker 2: He's having a wonderful time, which that is part of it.

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Speaker 2: Right and also it makes it hard from a defensive

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Speaker 1: Thanks so much for tuning in Casey. As always, thank

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Speaker 2: I appreciate it.

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