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Speaker 1: am deeply, deeply well. I I am deeply, deeply well.

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Speaker 1: I am deeply well. I'm Debbie Brown and this is

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Speaker 1: the Deeply Well Podcast. Welcome to Deeply Well. I'm Debbie

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Speaker 1: Brown and this is your soft place to land on

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Speaker 1: your journey. This is a podcast for those that are curious,

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Speaker 1: that are creative, and that are ready to expand in

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Speaker 1: their higher consciousness. This is where we heal, this is

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Speaker 1: where we become. Welcome to the show. Today's jo soho

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Speaker 1: then looking forward to this one. Our special guest today

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Speaker 1: is a really amazing beam that has committed themselves to

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Speaker 1: a path of service in a variety of ways. Aj

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Speaker 1: Ralon is an investor and entrepreneur and a community builder.

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Speaker 1: Prior to Slawson and Co. Aj was a founding partner

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Speaker 1: building and storytelling. AJ's passion lies and identifying trends and

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Speaker 1: engineering culturally aligned brands. A lifelong Angelino and graduate of

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Speaker 1: in community. His most recent collaboration, Hilltop Coffee and Kitchen,

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Speaker 1: has become a staple facilitating productivity and collaboration in diverse

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Speaker 1: neighborhoods across Los Angeles. In twenty twelve, AJ founded hashtag

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Speaker 1: lunch Bag, a grassroots movement that has fed one million

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Speaker 1: Living Through Giving Foundation, a nonprofit platform empowering the creation

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Speaker 1: various causes in their local communities. And everything that I

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Speaker 1: just read doesn't even scratch the surface on who he is.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: AJ, thank you for having me.

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Speaker 1: Wow, you're my friend. I've known you for a really

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Speaker 1: long time. I've always been incredibly impressed by and inspired

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Speaker 1: by you. But I have to say reading out your

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Speaker 1: bio for the very first time was wow, Wow, Wow.

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Speaker 1: Where do I begin? It's really interesting, Aj, You you

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Speaker 1: have created, You've built a lot, and so everything that

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Speaker 1: position in a multitude of diverse industries. Like some of

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Speaker 1: the things that I just listed right, like venture capitalist, right,

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Speaker 1: working in tech, working in investment, working in finance, working

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Speaker 1: in philanthropy, creating you know, some of the programs that

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Speaker 1: this hub of creativity and deliciousness and delight and revolution.

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Speaker 1: You know, one of the things that I see that

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Speaker 2: Well, first off, thank you again, yeah, thank you for

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Speaker 2: I kind of boil everything down to this this phrase

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Speaker 1: So I remember that experience. I remember we got gelato

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Speaker 1: your vision. And now to shoot forward several years later,

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Speaker 1: Wow. And you know, you get to see powerful living

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Speaker 1: and hold them and use them in real time, you know.

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Speaker 1: And that's the piece that significantly changes everything. It goes

436
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Speaker 1: from the oh yeah, yeah, I know that. Oh yeah,

437
00:26:43,280 --> 00:26:45,359
Speaker 1: I read a book like that. Oh yeah yeah, because

438
00:26:45,359 --> 00:26:47,639
Speaker 1: that theory says this and da da da, and it

439
00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,080
Speaker 1: actually becomes a thing that you're not talking about because

440
00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,840
Speaker 1: you're living, breathing it. It's pouring out of your cells

441
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:56,400
Speaker 1: and your pores and you know. And that's the that's

442
00:26:56,480 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 1: the part I wish for everyone to have the immense

443
00:27:03,400 --> 00:27:07,600
Speaker 1: pleasure and freedom to come into. That's the part that

444
00:27:07,640 --> 00:27:10,800
Speaker 1: shifts it all. And it takes time, and it takes

445
00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:15,840
Speaker 1: concerted effort, it takes real practice. You know that. That's

446
00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,280
Speaker 1: the deeper layer of the experience of healing. It's okay,

447
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:22,800
Speaker 1: I have the knowledge, but now let me also live it,

448
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 1: which brings up a lot of things, because then you

449
00:27:27,000 --> 00:27:29,080
Speaker 1: get triggered as you're trying to live it, and you

450
00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 1: have to meet those triggers with an immense amount of

451
00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:40,400
Speaker 1: care and self compassion, an immense amount of disarming of tenderness,

452
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Speaker 1: you know.

453
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Speaker 2: Yeah, and it can certainly get frustrating, right if you're not.

454
00:27:48,119 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: I'd say, you know, another thing that we have in

455
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Speaker 2: common is we have you know, young we're parents to

456
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Speaker 2: young children. Yeah, and among these lots and you know, again,

457
00:27:58,040 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 2: if you choose to go down this of you know,

458
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 2: for me, I made a commitment early on when my

459
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 2: daughter was born that you know, whatever my generational shit

460
00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 2: is stops with me, which is a completely other added

461
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:14,919
Speaker 2: weight that you kind of put on your plate. But

462
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:18,280
Speaker 2: that's probably the most important one because you are able

463
00:28:18,280 --> 00:28:20,880
Speaker 2: to kind of like look back and recognize no well

464
00:28:20,920 --> 00:28:25,000
Speaker 2: intentioned you know, our parents only knew what it was

465
00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 2: that they that they knew, and they got that from

466
00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 2: their parents and so on and so forth, And is amazing.

467
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,520
Speaker 1: The vital influence. We can't we can't not speak to

468
00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: the fact that even our parents doing our best, they

469
00:28:37,160 --> 00:28:39,840
Speaker 1: are still at the mercy of what the collective consciousness

470
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Speaker 1: of what society is allowing for any and all.

471
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Speaker 2: Of us and what's beautiful. I think about our generation

472
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,360
Speaker 2: and you know, maybe I live in a bubble, but

473
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,560
Speaker 2: it feels like and maybe I'm just more blessed than

474
00:28:51,600 --> 00:28:55,320
Speaker 2: others because I've you know, created a sense of authentic

475
00:28:55,400 --> 00:28:57,880
Speaker 2: purpose and everything that I do that's kind of filtered

476
00:28:57,920 --> 00:29:00,800
Speaker 2: out the people that aren't asking the question that we ask.

477
00:29:01,400 --> 00:29:04,720
Speaker 2: But you know, to be able to raise a young

478
00:29:04,840 --> 00:29:06,840
Speaker 2: child and we all know that when they get to

479
00:29:06,840 --> 00:29:09,440
Speaker 2: a certain age, they have a lot of questions and

480
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:12,520
Speaker 2: it really forces you to kick the tires on your

481
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 2: understanding of like basic and there's nothing more humbling than

482
00:29:18,360 --> 00:29:21,120
Speaker 2: have to than having to explain something that you thought

483
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,959
Speaker 2: you knew, you know, whether you know whatever it might be.

484
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:27,560
Speaker 2: It could be something very specific and objective to something

485
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:31,480
Speaker 2: that's more philosophical, but either way, they're going to ask

486
00:29:31,520 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: you until they get an answer, and we get to

487
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 2: check our what we truly understand or what we thought

488
00:29:40,000 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 2: we understood, and how we want to reframe that information

489
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,440
Speaker 2: at the earliest stages for our children to have to

490
00:29:47,520 --> 00:29:51,120
Speaker 2: frame their worldview to make sure that they're you know,

491
00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,360
Speaker 2: you know, learning how to learning thing concepts like gratitude

492
00:29:56,560 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 2: or being present two things that I am not. Those

493
00:30:00,200 --> 00:30:02,959
Speaker 2: not my default setting, right, those are two like I

494
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 2: am not wherever I am. I am not there the

495
00:30:05,680 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 2: majority of the time, and the only thing that I

496
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:10,920
Speaker 2: have is I'm aware of that. So I get to

497
00:30:10,920 --> 00:30:15,240
Speaker 2: go through that super meta process of like analyzing my thoughts,

498
00:30:15,320 --> 00:30:18,520
Speaker 2: thoughts and realizing you know where I'm where, you know.

499
00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 2: So that's a whole other thing. But I think the

500
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Speaker 2: the ability to to choose to go down that path

501
00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 2: of parenting in order to you know, at the very

502
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:34,640
Speaker 2: least incrementally save your your offspring some of the ship

503
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: that you had to go through while not holding it

504
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,440
Speaker 2: against your parents, Yeah, because in them doing the best

505
00:30:41,440 --> 00:30:43,920
Speaker 2: that they could have done given the tools that they had.

506
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Speaker 1: So yeah, holding whatever you want to hold against, but yeah,

507
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Speaker 1: creating space inside so that you're alleviated for whatever internal

508
00:30:52,800 --> 00:31:00,840
Speaker 1: suffering may be present. You know, Hm, on this winding

509
00:31:00,920 --> 00:31:03,400
Speaker 1: road that this pathway I'm seeing in front of me

510
00:31:03,480 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 1: right now, where I would love to start is tell

511
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,040
Speaker 1: me a little bit more about Slawson and Co.

512
00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:14,920
Speaker 2: Sure So, Slawson and Co. High Level is a early

513
00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 2: stage venture capital firm. It's rooted in this idea of

514
00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 2: economic conclusion started by myself and my good friend of

515
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,760
Speaker 2: over twenty years, Austin Austin Clements. Both of us grew up,

516
00:31:26,880 --> 00:31:30,280
Speaker 2: you know, in South Los Angeles, you know, spends a

517
00:31:30,320 --> 00:31:33,600
Speaker 2: lot of time together in our high school years, stayed

518
00:31:33,640 --> 00:31:38,040
Speaker 2: in touch, both of us completely separate paths. He is

519
00:31:38,120 --> 00:31:41,720
Speaker 2: a lot more direct and intentional into this world of

520
00:31:41,960 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 2: venture capital, and then both of us growing up where

521
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:47,360
Speaker 2: we grew up and often kind of congregating at various

522
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 2: like life events for friends and family members, always kind

523
00:31:51,000 --> 00:31:53,800
Speaker 2: of catching up in that specific lane, but then also

524
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 2: independently doing sharing our philanthropic work and supporting you know,

525
00:31:57,960 --> 00:32:00,280
Speaker 2: I shared some of mine. His was more, you know,

526
00:32:00,440 --> 00:32:03,840
Speaker 2: specifically focused on the tech in the venture capital community

527
00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:07,160
Speaker 2: here in Los Angeles and challenging people to think more

528
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:11,640
Speaker 2: inclusively and to implement practices and throw through primarily through

529
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:14,400
Speaker 2: his role being the founding chair of a program called

530
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Speaker 2: Pledge LA, which was partnered with the Annabrog Foundation here

531
00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 2: in LA. But you know, it was something that we

532
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:24,360
Speaker 2: had always whenever we would get together. They always thought

533
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,560
Speaker 2: about this massive opportunity to invest in entrepreneurs that didn't

534
00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,600
Speaker 2: necessarily fit the Silicon Valley moat that didn't go to

535
00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 2: Stanford or a Caucasian mail. The majority of this money,

536
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:37,800
Speaker 2: at think eighty percent of it at least goes to

537
00:32:37,840 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 2: white men in six geographies. So the thesis that we

538
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:47,160
Speaker 2: would constantly kick the tires on was that innovation exists

539
00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:50,920
Speaker 2: outside of this demographic and these geographies, and we built

540
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 2: we believe that with our experiencing, our experiences working at

541
00:32:56,000 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 2: the you know, starting a firm like Queensbridge Venture Partners

542
00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:02,800
Speaker 2: some incredible close friends that are still close friends to

543
00:33:02,800 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 2: this day, to his experience working at a firm like

544
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:09,560
Speaker 2: ten one ten which is an extremely successful Los Angeles

545
00:33:09,560 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 2: based firm, and kind of combining the things that we

546
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 2: cared about to formulate something. And we've been able to

547
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:21,719
Speaker 2: get some incredible investors involved behind what we do, you know,

548
00:33:21,760 --> 00:33:24,600
Speaker 2: from some of the founders of the largest tech companies

549
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 2: over the last two decades, to luminary investors that have

550
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,160
Speaker 2: been you know, first institutional checks into products and services

551
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:35,160
Speaker 2: that a lot of us interact with on a daily

552
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,520
Speaker 2: basis and and kind of entrusting us to kind of

553
00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,840
Speaker 2: become that bridge between the institutional knowledge that has fueled

554
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:45,160
Speaker 2: the innovation that this country was built on over the

555
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:47,720
Speaker 2: last call it fifty to one hundred years. But then

556
00:33:48,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 2: being authentically connected to the communities that we want to

557
00:33:50,880 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 2: unearth this next generation of like Mark Zuckerberg's if you

558
00:33:55,880 --> 00:34:01,080
Speaker 2: Will from and provide them with the same opportunity. You know,

559
00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,080
Speaker 2: you can't catch what you can't see. And I think

560
00:34:03,080 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 2: that we're building a brand in the market that is

561
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:09,840
Speaker 2: built on trust, authentic connections to the people both on

562
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 2: the institutional side that want to help but might not

563
00:34:12,200 --> 00:34:16,280
Speaker 2: socially be connected to the communities that they want to impact,

564
00:34:16,600 --> 00:34:19,439
Speaker 2: and being authentically connected to the streets that we came from.

565
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:27,040
Speaker 1: I mean, damn yeah, it's pretty tight. Wow. I had

566
00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:32,440
Speaker 1: the chance to spend time with some really incredible companies

567
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: that you're invested in this past summer. Shout out to Austin.

568
00:34:36,080 --> 00:34:36,520
Speaker 2: What up.

569
00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:41,080
Speaker 1: You guys had a slosson and cost summer camp. So

570
00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:46,800
Speaker 1: you took over this really gorgeous property in the forest,

571
00:34:47,600 --> 00:34:51,880
Speaker 1: and I came up and I led some meditations and

572
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:57,440
Speaker 1: we frolicked in the forest. That was one very lovely

573
00:34:57,719 --> 00:35:00,400
Speaker 1: Like I think everyone, just as adults, we need to

574
00:35:00,440 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 1: make more time for like interesting field trips like that,

575
00:35:04,520 --> 00:35:07,879
Speaker 1: to just like go be together with trees, you know.

576
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:11,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, that was a really cool experience. I mean that

577
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:13,080
Speaker 2: was really born where our firm is only you know,

578
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:15,759
Speaker 2: we started in January of twenty twenty one, so we

579
00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,160
Speaker 2: haven't in the grand scheme of things, we haven't been

580
00:35:18,200 --> 00:35:20,520
Speaker 2: around that long, but you know, we've we have an

581
00:35:20,560 --> 00:35:24,560
Speaker 2: incredible team, and you know, we're still very much in

582
00:35:24,600 --> 00:35:27,879
Speaker 2: the experimental phase where we have ideas that of things

583
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,399
Speaker 2: that we think might be cool ways to bring our

584
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,520
Speaker 2: communities together and have some sort of like a culture

585
00:35:33,600 --> 00:35:37,000
Speaker 2: clash or something that's not necessarily like you know, the norm.

586
00:35:37,960 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: And you know, the idea for creating us Loss in

587
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:42,799
Speaker 2: Summer Camp was kind of rooted in this idea of,

588
00:35:42,840 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 2: like we started our firm like still very much in

589
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,960
Speaker 2: the pandemic. Everything was very virtual, and the bulk of

590
00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,880
Speaker 2: the relationships that we had started, you know, both with

591
00:35:52,040 --> 00:35:55,879
Speaker 2: the limited partners that invested and trusted us with their

592
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: capital to be stewards of their capital, to find these

593
00:35:59,320 --> 00:36:03,319
Speaker 2: founders and these companies that we're backing. You know, we

594
00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:06,920
Speaker 2: just didn't have the opportunity to spend much time in person,

595
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,160
Speaker 2: and I think as we kind of went down, you

596
00:36:10,200 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: know the path of building these relationships and you know,

597
00:36:13,040 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: we position ourselves somewhere between a coach and a cheerleader

598
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:19,520
Speaker 2: for the founders that we back, and you know, you're

599
00:36:19,560 --> 00:36:23,080
Speaker 2: on these these zooms all day long. There might be

600
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,200
Speaker 2: like that random like three or four minute zoom, I

601
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:29,000
Speaker 2: mean the time left at the end where you're just like, so,

602
00:36:29,040 --> 00:36:32,120
Speaker 2: how are you? Like what's going on? And then you'll

603
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:37,160
Speaker 2: hear steros stories like oh, well, I'm getting a divorce

604
00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:41,000
Speaker 2: or my child won't talk to me or explain some

605
00:36:41,040 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 2: sort of loss or some just shit that you had

606
00:36:44,920 --> 00:36:47,520
Speaker 2: no idea that they were going through, which, by the way,

607
00:36:47,560 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 2: is everybody. And you know you're also reflecting. You know

608
00:36:53,400 --> 00:36:55,239
Speaker 2: a lot of these conversations we're getting off the phone

609
00:36:55,239 --> 00:36:58,919
Speaker 2: were like that person is dope, Like I very reaffirmed

610
00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 2: the decision to partner with them over this long journey

611
00:37:01,719 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 2: to build these big companies, and you know they're exceptionally

612
00:37:05,800 --> 00:37:08,800
Speaker 2: good at these things, and you start to in aggregate.

613
00:37:08,840 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 2: You know, to date, we have thirty two companies in

614
00:37:11,120 --> 00:37:14,520
Speaker 2: our portfolio, and that's thirty two you know, sets of founders.

615
00:37:15,080 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 2: I think it's somewhere like up to like fifty people

616
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 2: that are actually in charge of what, you know, what

617
00:37:20,000 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 2: they're building and you really you you know, maybe it's

618
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 2: not something you see in finance often, but you we

619
00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,839
Speaker 2: take a very holistic approach to the human It's like, well,

620
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:31,240
Speaker 2: if you're going through some shit in your personal life,

621
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,239
Speaker 2: that's going to affect what you're doing in your professional

622
00:37:34,280 --> 00:37:36,080
Speaker 2: life and how you're showing up as a leader and

623
00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:39,759
Speaker 2: how you're executing against your plan. So it's not completely altruistic,

624
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 2: but we and we do have we do care about,

625
00:37:43,880 --> 00:37:46,640
Speaker 2: you know, the but it's from a strategic standpoint. It's like, well,

626
00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,000
Speaker 2: what if we you know, created something in like a

627
00:37:50,160 --> 00:37:53,000
Speaker 2: summer camp format that we're all familiar with. It kind

628
00:37:53,000 --> 00:37:55,520
Speaker 2: of takes us back to our childhood. What if we

629
00:37:55,960 --> 00:37:58,680
Speaker 2: rooted it in this idea of self care and wellness

630
00:37:58,840 --> 00:38:03,160
Speaker 2: and disconnecting from the daily grind of you know, startup life.

631
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:06,920
Speaker 2: And you know, who do we know that is really

632
00:38:06,960 --> 00:38:10,839
Speaker 2: dope that already does shit like this, which is you know,

633
00:38:10,960 --> 00:38:13,520
Speaker 2: clearly the best person on the planet is Debbie Brown

634
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:16,840
Speaker 2: and and you know, how can we convince her and

635
00:38:16,920 --> 00:38:20,279
Speaker 2: her awesome partner in crime to come kick it with

636
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:23,279
Speaker 2: us for a weekend and like, you know, reconnect with

637
00:38:23,280 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 2: ourselves so fast forward we were able to do that

638
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: we're extremely grateful, you know, to have you there and

639
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: to kind of like a set the tone. But I

640
00:38:29,480 --> 00:38:33,400
Speaker 2: think one of the I would say unintended consequences that

641
00:38:33,440 --> 00:38:35,680
Speaker 2: we were kind of hoping. What happened is that folks

642
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,880
Speaker 2: would just organically connect with each other, yeah, and build

643
00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:42,759
Speaker 2: a community of dope people that were all at similar

644
00:38:42,960 --> 00:38:46,960
Speaker 2: stages of their startup life, but all had very different

645
00:38:47,000 --> 00:38:50,480
Speaker 2: lived experiences that led them just to build whatever product

646
00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:52,479
Speaker 2: or service that they were looking to build and change

647
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:55,239
Speaker 2: the game with, but also very specific things that they

648
00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:57,040
Speaker 2: were good at that other people could use help with,

649
00:38:57,200 --> 00:38:59,759
Speaker 2: and then build this organic community which we are. We

650
00:38:59,760 --> 00:39:03,279
Speaker 2: could not be more proud of the quality of human

651
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Speaker 2: We're reminded about the quality of the humans. We fact

652
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Speaker 2: reminded about the things that they're building that exist in

653
00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:13,480
Speaker 2: the world that have massive economic opportunity, but you know,

654
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Speaker 2: impact the human narrative in a more positive and equitable wave.

655
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Speaker 2: And by the way, we don't see that as charity

656
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:23,399
Speaker 2: or you know, an impact orientation that implies some sort

657
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: of concessionary return. We think that this is the next

658
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Speaker 2: wave of generating tens of hundreds of billions of dollars

659
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Speaker 2: of wealth for the people that we back for the

660
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Speaker 2: people that they employ at the earliest stage, because if

661
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Speaker 2: they're successful, there's a lot you know, as we've seen

662
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Speaker 2: over the last ten to fifteen years, there's a lot

663
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Speaker 2: of people that have become very wealthy that percentage of

664
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Speaker 2: the you know, through the innovation, primarily through the development

665
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,920
Speaker 2: of these new technology companies. But if you actually look

666
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Speaker 2: under the hood of who gets to participate in that wealth,

667
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Speaker 2: it's not representative of the wider society. So when we

668
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:03,120
Speaker 2: go back to why we exist, it's to you know,

669
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Speaker 2: have that perspective represented in the market, and then hopefully

670
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Speaker 2: we can create a standard moving forward where other people

671
00:40:09,320 --> 00:40:11,799
Speaker 2: view this as a massive opportunity the way that we

672
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Speaker 2: do and you know, want to follow suit.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite things before I move us into space,

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Speaker 1: I'm very excited about one of my favorite things when

675
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Speaker 1: I when I came up further retreat, I think, where

676
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Speaker 1: were we We were in like near Yosemity.

677
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Speaker 2: You're in red like the Scott's Valley, which was like

678
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Speaker 2: in the Redwood Force.

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Speaker 1: Yes, we were in a redwood forest. It was glorious.

680
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Speaker 1: I love listen, find me in a forest. One of

681
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Speaker 1: the things that I loved is. I remember on the

682
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Speaker 1: first day we came down for dinner and it was

683
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Speaker 1: like the introduction, and you know, I just kind of

684
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Speaker 1: planted myself with everyone, right, So I was sitting down

685
00:40:50,480 --> 00:40:55,120
Speaker 1: at a table and everyone was trying to work and

686
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:57,520
Speaker 1: eat while we were in the center of a forest, right,

687
00:40:57,600 --> 00:41:01,040
Speaker 1: Like everyone was just so connected to still the grind,

688
00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,360
Speaker 1: which is, to your point, a big part of why

689
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,640
Speaker 1: you wanted to take everyone out to the forest. So

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Speaker 1: I remember the first conversation at dinner was just Okay, who.

691
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 2: Are you, what do you do?

692
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:12,160
Speaker 1: How do you do it?

693
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 2: This what I do?

694
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:17,719
Speaker 1: Like everyone dove immediately into their elevator pitch, and then

695
00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:19,680
Speaker 1: I sat there and I was I think I was

696
00:41:19,719 --> 00:41:22,120
Speaker 1: making people a little uncomfortable because I was like, oh, hi, yeah,

697
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,239
Speaker 1: I'm just existing, you know, what's going on. And then

698
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 1: by our last day there, you know, seeing the real

699
00:41:31,040 --> 00:41:35,080
Speaker 1: deep magic of what you know, remembering that you're a

700
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:38,480
Speaker 1: person too, outside of what you're currently contributing, how you're

701
00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:42,240
Speaker 1: currently serving, or ways that you're currently trying to scale.

702
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 1: Like watching that remembrance come over everyone as they are

703
00:41:46,239 --> 00:41:49,080
Speaker 1: building some of the most incredible companies you know and

704
00:41:50,080 --> 00:41:54,880
Speaker 1: executing massive visions, but then seeing that conversation come back

705
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,160
Speaker 1: into being one that was more so led, and watching

706
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,440
Speaker 1: people open up at the tables and talk about their

707
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:03,360
Speaker 1: family and really just talk about what brought them pleasure.

708
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 1: You know, seeing people run out to the hot top

709
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Speaker 1: parties at night, and you know, then taking walks in

710
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Speaker 1: silence during the day, and it just for me as

711
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Speaker 1: a teacher, it was just very It was so beautiful

712
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Speaker 1: to watch that begin to pour over people. Because to

713
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Speaker 1: your point, what's the point of any of it if

714
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Speaker 1: you can't be a whole person. What's the point of

715
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: all the cash, the accolades, that, any of it if

716
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Speaker 1: you don't feel good about who and what you are inside,

717
00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,640
Speaker 1: if you're not able to slow down enough to be

718
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Speaker 1: present with your experience and real time. You know, a

719
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Speaker 1: lot of people i think right now, have been especially

720
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Speaker 1: you know with social media and with us being and

721
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 1: some of the more hustle culture that we're coming out of,

722
00:42:51,000 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 1: especially for the last decade, this hustle entrepreneurial culture where

723
00:42:54,920 --> 00:42:57,400
Speaker 1: it was kind of like I'm an entrepreneur, you're a

724
00:42:57,440 --> 00:42:59,640
Speaker 1: nine to five, or we're at war, like we're judging

725
00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: each other. There were this it was just It's been

726
00:43:02,560 --> 00:43:07,399
Speaker 1: fascinating to watch. But coming into the space where what

727
00:43:07,440 --> 00:43:10,440
Speaker 1: does any of it mean? What does any of it

728
00:43:10,560 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: mean if you're not connecting to the experience of being

729
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:18,200
Speaker 1: a spirit and human form? You know, that's the point.

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Speaker 1: So you recently had this very cool experience and I'm

731
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,759
Speaker 1: talking about it because you posted it on your Instagram,

732
00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:30,080
Speaker 1: So share as much as you feel comfortable with. But yeah,

733
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Speaker 1: this really awesome experience to have dinner and be in

734
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Speaker 1: community with. I mean, what are the descriptives of this

735
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,000
Speaker 1: being that has changed the course of human history? With

736
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Speaker 1: Barack Obama, with our forever president Barack Obama, and you

737
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:57,200
Speaker 1: had quite an interesting backstory to this as well that

738
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Speaker 1: kind of made it not just an exceptional moment, but

739
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Speaker 1: also a full circle moment. What was that experience like

740
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Speaker 1: with you?

741
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was, you know. Obviously the work that we're

742
00:44:06,920 --> 00:44:09,680
Speaker 2: doing was Slawston and Co. I mentioned we had some

743
00:44:09,800 --> 00:44:13,520
Speaker 2: really incredible like day one advisors in one of those.

744
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Speaker 2: One of those is a man named Ron Conway, who's

745
00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:21,799
Speaker 2: like a legendary Silicon Valley figure, early investor in like

746
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Speaker 2: some of the biggest companies of the past, you know,

747
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:30,440
Speaker 2: three decades plus, and someone who is incredibly just legendary

748
00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:32,799
Speaker 2: in every aspect, not just as an investor, but as

749
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,080
Speaker 2: a human and as a connector. And you know, he

750
00:44:37,160 --> 00:44:43,040
Speaker 2: was hosting a founder summit up in San Francisco and

751
00:44:44,160 --> 00:44:46,640
Speaker 2: was going to be interviewing you know, President Obama as

752
00:44:46,680 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 2: this kind of keynote chat, and we've offered us an

753
00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: opportunity to to to meet with him for a short

754
00:44:54,840 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 2: period of time, but privately alongside Valerie Jarrett, who was

755
00:44:58,480 --> 00:45:00,400
Speaker 2: a Day one advisor, who you know, we've had the

756
00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: pleasure of getting to know over the past few months,

757
00:45:03,120 --> 00:45:05,880
Speaker 2: and more so through the lens of learning about the

758
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Speaker 2: work that they're doing with with the Obama Foundation and

759
00:45:09,160 --> 00:45:11,120
Speaker 2: sharing the work that we're doing. It's lost in New

760
00:45:11,200 --> 00:45:15,480
Speaker 2: co you know, uh, you know, philanthropic a lot of

761
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 2: ways on that side, and more for profit on our side,

762
00:45:18,120 --> 00:45:23,960
Speaker 2: but nevertheless rooted in a lot of the same values.

763
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,200
Speaker 2: And you know, the purpose was really just to you know,

764
00:45:27,400 --> 00:45:30,480
Speaker 2: to share and to listen on on both sides. So

765
00:45:32,120 --> 00:45:37,680
Speaker 2: if nothing else, it was just another signal of validation

766
00:45:37,840 --> 00:45:40,000
Speaker 2: that we're on the right path and we're building you know,

767
00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 2: and obviously have the aulmost respect for what uh that

768
00:45:48,320 --> 00:45:52,799
Speaker 2: team Valerie and President Obama and that entire administration and

769
00:45:52,880 --> 00:45:56,200
Speaker 2: even beyond the time in the White House has done

770
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Speaker 2: for the world, both tactically through programs and policies, but

771
00:45:59,719 --> 00:46:03,520
Speaker 2: also just through the representation and the intention and the

772
00:46:03,520 --> 00:46:08,600
Speaker 2: fact that you can demonstrate such a cool and charismatic

773
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Speaker 2: style of leadership, you.

774
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Speaker 1: Know, deeply well someone with a lot of output, someone

775
00:46:19,360 --> 00:46:24,280
Speaker 1: that has also shared that there was you know, quite

776
00:46:24,280 --> 00:46:28,640
Speaker 1: the climb to this life right internally and externally, quite

777
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:32,880
Speaker 1: the digging, quite the climb. How do you connect to

778
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Speaker 1: joy and pleasure in this moment.

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Speaker 2: Of your life. Yeah, that's a good question, I think,

780
00:46:41,280 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: you know, for me, it's just you know, instituting all

781
00:46:46,719 --> 00:46:48,920
Speaker 2: of the right practice. I think at this way, I

782
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:54,319
Speaker 2: just celebrated my thirty ninth birthday, so I'm highly reflective

783
00:46:54,680 --> 00:46:57,919
Speaker 2: of like what this next now ten months is leading

784
00:46:58,000 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 2: up to the next decade of my life. And you know,

785
00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:08,400
Speaker 2: we talked about the toolbox overflowing with gadgets and approaches

786
00:47:08,440 --> 00:47:11,759
Speaker 2: and you know, really taking the time to slow down

787
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Speaker 2: and to find time to you know, I think with

788
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Speaker 2: a lot of the one of the challenges when you know,

789
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 2: you take on the level of responsibility that we take

790
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:24,400
Speaker 2: on is you know, making sure that there's time that

791
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 2: you have dedicated for yourself so you can be a

792
00:47:27,600 --> 00:47:31,279
Speaker 2: better you know, partner or husband or father or son

793
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 2: or friend. And you know, I think the thing that

794
00:47:34,960 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 2: I've really just you know, in the early stages and

795
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:41,319
Speaker 2: still figuring out, is just making time to slow down,

796
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,719
Speaker 2: you know, take care of my body, listening to my body, meditating,

797
00:47:45,040 --> 00:47:48,400
Speaker 2: being mindful of my thoughts, not feeling you know, like

798
00:47:48,480 --> 00:47:51,080
Speaker 2: doing my best to not beat myself up for having

799
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 2: thoughts that I thought that I wouldn't be thinking anymore

800
00:47:54,200 --> 00:47:56,479
Speaker 2: after doing all of the work that I've done to date,

801
00:47:56,520 --> 00:47:59,000
Speaker 2: without realizing that this is an ongoing journey, and I

802
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,440
Speaker 2: get to be grateful that I even have the awareness

803
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:08,239
Speaker 2: to notice these passing thoughts. And you know, so I

804
00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,440
Speaker 2: think it's the things that are you know, making the

805
00:48:10,520 --> 00:48:13,160
Speaker 2: time to be silent, you know, waking up a little

806
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,640
Speaker 2: bit earlier, you know, extending the time that I sit

807
00:48:15,719 --> 00:48:19,880
Speaker 2: in silence and reflection, you know, being more gentle. And

808
00:48:19,960 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 2: I recently under just over the last few months, have

809
00:48:22,239 --> 00:48:25,480
Speaker 2: been dealing with my first like real adult injury, and

810
00:48:25,600 --> 00:48:28,880
Speaker 2: like being grateful for that injury that it happened the

811
00:48:28,880 --> 00:48:31,200
Speaker 2: way that it happened when it happens. So now at

812
00:48:31,200 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: this point in my life, I'm still relatively young, and

813
00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:36,040
Speaker 2: you know, I have the ability to course correct some

814
00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:39,320
Speaker 2: things I can, you know, so I think it's really

815
00:48:39,440 --> 00:48:44,120
Speaker 2: just the greatest tool. That's admittedly, so the hardest thing

816
00:48:44,160 --> 00:48:49,960
Speaker 2: for me to practice is that whole gratitude thing. And uh,

817
00:48:50,239 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 2: but it's something that I get to remind myself of

818
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 2: in particularly in these forms, in these conversations.

819
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Speaker 1: So interesting to hear you say, because you're actually one

820
00:48:59,040 --> 00:49:00,440
Speaker 1: of the most grateful people I know.

821
00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:02,880
Speaker 2: Yes, it's hard, though, and part of the reason of

822
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,319
Speaker 2: saying it and practicing it or even pretending like you're

823
00:49:06,360 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: practicing it is to you know, become it.

824
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,719
Speaker 1: Yeah, so live it one day today.

825
00:49:13,440 --> 00:49:16,160
Speaker 2: Is that one day, but tomorrow might not be and

826
00:49:16,239 --> 00:49:16,760
Speaker 2: that's cool.

827
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Speaker 1: Deep presence yep. At the end of every show, I

828
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,839
Speaker 1: like to ask my guest to provide some soul work

829
00:49:27,880 --> 00:49:31,839
Speaker 1: for the audience. So soul work is for those who

830
00:49:31,840 --> 00:49:37,040
Speaker 1: are listening a way to really deepen in their own process,

831
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: their own practices that they're doing at home from your lens.

832
00:49:41,200 --> 00:49:43,960
Speaker 1: So sometimes that can be done as sharing a practice,

833
00:49:44,239 --> 00:49:47,920
Speaker 1: or that can be done as sharing a prompt for

834
00:49:48,000 --> 00:49:53,160
Speaker 1: self reflection, something to really kind of have the space

835
00:49:53,239 --> 00:49:56,960
Speaker 1: to sink your teeth into. Perhaps those listening might journal

836
00:49:57,000 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 1: to it later, meditate on the thought, take a walk

837
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,560
Speaker 1: with the thought. So I like to invite you in

838
00:50:01,600 --> 00:50:03,720
Speaker 1: this moment, as we get ready to close out the show,

839
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:06,640
Speaker 1: to share some soul work with the audience. What is

840
00:50:06,680 --> 00:50:09,080
Speaker 1: something that they can take with them to practice and

841
00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:10,040
Speaker 1: apply right now?

842
00:50:10,600 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: A lot of what I've been thinking about these last

843
00:50:13,400 --> 00:50:17,840
Speaker 2: few years is, you know, as I think about my

844
00:50:18,000 --> 00:50:21,840
Speaker 2: ultimate goal and what I view as success and something

845
00:50:21,840 --> 00:50:24,960
Speaker 2: that I try to strive for on a daily basis,

846
00:50:25,160 --> 00:50:28,200
Speaker 2: is like I view what success to me is being

847
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:31,240
Speaker 2: one hundred percent comfortable in my own skin one hundred

848
00:50:31,239 --> 00:50:34,920
Speaker 2: percent of the time. And I think that, you know, man, woman,

849
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:38,680
Speaker 2: whatever however you identify or wherever you kind of come from,

850
00:50:39,000 --> 00:50:42,440
Speaker 2: you know, being able to be yourself in any given scenario,

851
00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:44,799
Speaker 2: in any given situation. And I think we've you know,

852
00:50:45,200 --> 00:50:48,279
Speaker 2: in this age of the Internet and social media and

853
00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:52,880
Speaker 2: social comparison being built into business models, and you know,

854
00:50:53,040 --> 00:50:56,720
Speaker 2: insecurity being bred as a you know, just through human

855
00:50:56,719 --> 00:51:01,680
Speaker 2: psychology and us effectively being exploited by these different products

856
00:51:01,719 --> 00:51:04,800
Speaker 2: and services that we that do connect us in some ways,

857
00:51:04,920 --> 00:51:07,680
Speaker 2: but then also have you know, as we're starting to see,

858
00:51:07,920 --> 00:51:12,600
Speaker 2: you know, uh, psychological detriments you know, across the across

859
00:51:12,640 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: all age spectrums. The question that I am or the

860
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:19,560
Speaker 2: statement that I'm constantly coming back to, is you know

861
00:51:21,080 --> 00:51:23,799
Speaker 2: your lived experience as your competitive advantage. And I think

862
00:51:23,840 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: through the lens of the prompt, the question that I

863
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: ask myself whenever I start to feel any type of

864
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:35,879
Speaker 2: insecurity or regret or doubt is if not me, then

865
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:41,759
Speaker 2: who you know? So it's a it's a practice in confidence.

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Speaker 2: It doesn't necessarily it's not a practice in fake confidence.

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Speaker 2: It does cause you to ask real questions about what

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Speaker 2: it is that you're doing addressing certain aspects of fear

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Speaker 2: that you know. I think a lot of people refer

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Speaker 2: to fear as fake, and I to an extent I

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Speaker 2: agree with that. I do feel like fear serves a purpose.

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Speaker 2: You know, going back to the beginning of this conversation,

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Speaker 2: is a lot of the things that exist quite candidly

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Speaker 2: that I get to work on at least my contribution

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Speaker 2: form a healthy chunk of their existence. Is my contribution

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Speaker 2: to their existence has been my personal fear. And I'm

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Speaker 2: grateful for that fear because now these things exist now,

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Speaker 2: you know. So I don't know if I have like

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Speaker 2: an overall headline or specific prompt, but it's somewhere in that,

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Speaker 2: but like, yeah, I think it's ultimately you know, whether

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Speaker 2: you're creating something that is completely brand new, which is

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Speaker 2: going to require you to be some level of contrarian

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Speaker 2: and have to if life is a game of enrollment,

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Speaker 2: in that case, you have to enroll, whether it's investors

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Speaker 2: or customers or whatever the product is and beneficiary is,

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Speaker 2: or if you're just taking a spin on something that

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Speaker 2: already exists that's a commodity and putting your own touch

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Speaker 2: to it, or applying your own layer design or creativity

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00:53:02,520 --> 00:53:06,040
Speaker 2: or perspective or words and intention, or the community you

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Speaker 2: want to build around it. Your lived experience is your

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Speaker 2: competitive advantage.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, that's really powerful And what I'm hearing in

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Speaker 1: that prompt and maybe for those connecting to our voices

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Speaker 1: right now, it's what are some ways to reframe or

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Speaker 1: amplify the ways you've been relating to your life's experiences

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Speaker 1: to really see some advantage in it. For some of

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Speaker 1: the darker rooms that might that might be something you

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Speaker 1: want to explore over the course of this next year,

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Speaker 1: or also explore you know someone that you may be

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Speaker 1: doing some self work with. But what are the ways

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Speaker 1: that your life experiences are have become, or can become

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Speaker 1: your competitive advantage in your life. And competitive doesn't have

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Speaker 1: to be professionally, But what are some of the ways

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Speaker 1: that they get to emerge as gifts of superpowers as

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Speaker 1: you know, muscle memory, innate skills. That was the soul work.

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Speaker 2: What came up for me as you made your declarative

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Speaker 2: statement just now was to the extent you can, I believe,

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Speaker 2: I believe for me in this exact moment, which is

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00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:36,760
Speaker 2: all that we have. And this could very well change

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Speaker 2: if I am driving in traffic and somebody pisses me

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Speaker 2: off and brings out an old version of me. Is

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Speaker 2: I'm grateful for every single experience that has brought me

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Speaker 2: up until this point. Yeah, and everything as like minute

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Speaker 2: as missing an exit, we're making a turn, the wrong turn,

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Speaker 2: or you know, like every little decision and action and interaction.

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Speaker 2: And I'm not just talking about the good ones. I'm

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Speaker 2: talking about the bad ones. Things that you thought were

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Speaker 2: meant for you, or somebody that you lost, or everything

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Speaker 2: that just seems like God, why me? Why is this

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Speaker 2: happening to me? Is you know, if you if you

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Speaker 2: choose and if you can remember to like believe that

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Speaker 2: all of it is relative. If there's no all, you

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Speaker 2: can't have all the ups without the downs, or the

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Speaker 2: winds without the els. I mean, it makes everything so

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Speaker 2: much better. And it's so hard, you know. I mean

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Speaker 2: it's not because somebody can intellectualize it and tell you

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Speaker 2: you can get your gratitude journal and you can write

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Speaker 2: all of it down, but you got to practice that

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Speaker 2: because that's the only way that it'll act. And all

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Speaker 2: of the other things. Somehow everything just becomes enough. And

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Speaker 2: then at that point more and more opportunity and the

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Speaker 2: things that you like. But you got to put the

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Speaker 2: work in for whatever it is that you want to exist,

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Speaker 2: whether it's like a partner, not like I got to

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Speaker 2: find this very specific partner, or I got to have

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Speaker 2: kids by a certain age, or all of these deadlines

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Speaker 2: and expectations that we put on ourselves. I got to

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Speaker 2: make a million dollars before I'm twelve. It's like, all

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Speaker 2: of it is much more. It's just a better experience.

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Speaker 2: If you can go through the exercise of implementing some

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Speaker 2: sort of like I'm grateful for this right now in

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Speaker 2: your life.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, really beautifully said ay J, thank you,

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Speaker 1: Thank you for coming on this show. Thank you for

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00:56:46,160 --> 00:56:48,520
Speaker 1: the work that you do in the world. Thank you

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Speaker 1: for the work you've committed to do on yourself which

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Speaker 1: allows you to be the magnificent, radiant, brilliant being you

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Speaker 1: are to all the people whose lives that you touch,

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Speaker 1: appreciate you. Thank you for listening, Thank you for joining.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll connect to that soul work and we

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Speaker 1: will be back next week now, mis stay connect with

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