WEBVTT - Political HOT Topics 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:02.840 Native Land Pod is a production of iHeartRadio in partnership 0:00:02.880 --> 0:00:04.120 with Resent Choice Media. 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:07.360 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome, Welcome. 0:00:07.480 --> 0:00:10.680 Well everyone, whether you call it Gratitude Day, Thanksgiving, or 0:00:10.720 --> 0:00:14.080 somewhere in between, this is a special time for us 0:00:14.160 --> 0:00:17.520 because we would not exist without our NLP fan So 0:00:17.600 --> 0:00:20.159 it's so important to us that we welcomed you to 0:00:20.239 --> 0:00:23.840 our table. You're gonna hear from voices, our supporters, our fans, 0:00:24.280 --> 0:00:27.480 and our family talking about the importance of this show, 0:00:27.720 --> 0:00:30.600 this platform as we continue to go into the unknown. 0:00:30.960 --> 0:00:33.000 But welcome home, y'all, and we're so happy to be 0:00:33.040 --> 0:00:34.040 sharing this moment with you. 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:38.520 Hey, guys, love the podcast, and I've been a fan 0:00:38.560 --> 0:00:41.239 of all of your work individually for a while. I 0:00:41.320 --> 0:00:44.760 wanted to talk about the rainbow coalition conversation you guys 0:00:44.800 --> 0:00:48.159 had on today's episode. As someone who's mixed with a 0:00:48.200 --> 0:00:52.120 black mother from York, New Jersey an immigrant father from Guatemala, 0:00:52.600 --> 0:00:56.240 I personally feel like the rainbow coalition, or the idea 0:00:56.320 --> 0:01:01.080 of a rainbow coalition is not happening, least in practice 0:01:01.200 --> 0:01:05.680 or in my lived experience. As someone who's been in 0:01:05.760 --> 0:01:10.760 community with black folks and Latinos, I don't see the 0:01:11.959 --> 0:01:14.000 I don't see the teamwork in that or I don't 0:01:14.040 --> 0:01:16.120 see it happening the way I wish it was happening. 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:19.559 And so I guess my question is do you think 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.200 during this time and during these next four years, the 0:01:22.240 --> 0:01:27.360 black community should turn inwards and focus more on black 0:01:27.400 --> 0:01:30.880 folks and not necessarily leave everyone else behind? Because we 0:01:30.959 --> 0:01:35.000 know that when black folks win, actually everyone wins. But 0:01:36.000 --> 0:01:37.880 what do you think should be happening, because I think 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.120 we're seeing that, you know, other people of color don't 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.840 have black people's backs the way we wish they would. 0:01:45.000 --> 0:01:47.800 Reading's Native Land Podcast. My name is Keith, I'm from DC. 0:01:48.840 --> 0:01:49.880 How you doing, Tiffany? 0:01:50.000 --> 0:01:50.480 What's going on? 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:50.840 Angela? 0:01:50.960 --> 0:01:51.400 How you doing? 0:01:51.440 --> 0:01:51.800 Andrew? 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:55.240 I just wanted to make a firm comment that Tiffany 0:01:55.280 --> 0:02:01.960 made on our last session about Trump getting half the country, 0:02:02.080 --> 0:02:03.600 and she was correct when it's saying. 0:02:03.440 --> 0:02:07.440 That he didn't necessarily get to have Trump prossimately got 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:13.440 approximately got thirty two percent of the voting population, Kamala 0:02:13.440 --> 0:02:17.680 Harris got thirty percent of the voting population, Approximately thirty 0:02:17.720 --> 0:02:21.680 point four percent of the voting population, and thirty seven 0:02:21.720 --> 0:02:25.120 percent of the voting population decided to stay Homeles sit 0:02:25.200 --> 0:02:27.120 on the couch. If the Caulcu was on the ballot, 0:02:27.560 --> 0:02:30.160 it would have gotten the popular vote and it would 0:02:30.160 --> 0:02:33.560 have won every electorial vote in the Union with ninety 0:02:33.960 --> 0:02:38.920 million votes, which is a fourteen million margin separation. And 0:02:38.960 --> 0:02:42.320 if you provide that by the fifty states, you get 0:02:42.360 --> 0:02:46.280 a two hundred and eighty thousand margin on average for 0:02:46.400 --> 0:02:50.079 each state, and it could be higher depending on how 0:02:50.120 --> 0:02:52.800 they were voting. Again, that is my two cents. I 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:53.480 appreciate it. 0:02:53.840 --> 0:02:54.040 Yos. 0:02:54.520 --> 0:02:55.080 Keep it going. 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:56.639 We look forward to your shop. 0:02:56.760 --> 0:02:57.399 Thanks. 0:02:58.600 --> 0:03:01.800 Hey Native Lampard. My name is Rica. I am from Seattle. 0:03:01.840 --> 0:03:05.320 Hey Angela. So I believe that we lost this election 0:03:05.520 --> 0:03:09.000 on education. And when you're not educated about how this 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:11.680 country is run and civics, you will vote vote against 0:03:11.720 --> 0:03:12.800 your best interests. 0:03:12.960 --> 0:03:14.320 So here's what I propose. 0:03:14.639 --> 0:03:17.840 Trump is going to elect fifteen people to his cabinet, 0:03:17.880 --> 0:03:20.800 maybe sixteen with Elon Musk, and then there's the president 0:03:20.880 --> 0:03:24.960 and vice president. What does the attorney general do? What 0:03:25.000 --> 0:03:27.400 does the vice president do? What does the Secretary of 0:03:27.440 --> 0:03:30.240 State do? What is Vivek and Elon Musk going to 0:03:30.240 --> 0:03:30.640 be doing? 0:03:30.760 --> 0:03:30.959 Right? 0:03:31.320 --> 0:03:35.040 So that's what like fifteen, eighteen twenty people that we 0:03:35.120 --> 0:03:38.200 should be watching. What if we divvied up gave homework 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:42.480 to fifteen twenty people in the Native Lampod universe. So, 0:03:42.600 --> 0:03:45.680 for example, say Matt Gates, say he's appointed, Say I 0:03:45.840 --> 0:03:49.240 Rica am assigned to follow all things Matt Gates and 0:03:49.280 --> 0:03:51.720 what he is doing as the Attorney General and what 0:03:51.800 --> 0:03:54.760 the Attorney General of the United States does and can 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:55.480 do has. 0:03:55.360 --> 0:03:57.680 Done in the past. What if we divvied all of. 0:03:57.640 --> 0:03:59.800 That up, somebody else had Secretary of State and so 0:03:59.880 --> 0:04:02.119 on and so forth, and then we report it back 0:04:02.160 --> 0:04:05.080 to the Native Lampod to let each other know what 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.560 is happening. Right, because we're all so busy, there's so 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:10.320 much going on, we're just trying to survive that all 0:04:10.360 --> 0:04:12.360 of us don't have time to do all of that homework. 0:04:12.480 --> 0:04:16.080 So what if we collectively did the homework together and 0:04:16.279 --> 0:04:18.800 educated each other on civics in this country. 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:20.039 That's what I propose. 0:04:20.360 --> 0:04:24.039 So, yeah, Hey, what's up, Native Land. 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:28.120 This is Craig and Brooklyn just wanted to say that I. 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.120 Just got to the part of the last show where 0:04:30.160 --> 0:04:33.360 you guys were bringing up the question of whether or 0:04:33.400 --> 0:04:37.279 not you should continue as a podcast, and emphatically I say, 0:04:37.800 --> 0:04:44.480 please continue We're at a point in our country where 0:04:44.520 --> 0:04:46.440 a lot of us are asking whether or not we 0:04:46.480 --> 0:04:51.599 should continue. And you guys represent the hopes and the 0:04:51.680 --> 0:04:58.120 dreams and some of the fears and anguish of what 0:04:58.200 --> 0:05:01.160 we're dealing with right now. So we need to know 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.919 that there are people out there that are speaking for 0:05:03.080 --> 0:05:07.400 us and that are just as concerned about this nation's 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:11.680 future as us. So please please please continue. I love 0:05:11.720 --> 0:05:12.159 you guys. 0:05:12.880 --> 0:05:13.279 Take care. 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:21.080 Okay, Hey that Native lampod Hi Native lampod I'm I'm 0:05:21.160 --> 0:05:25.120 Kimberly Archie, and we are dropping in to say hello 0:05:25.440 --> 0:05:27.600 because both of us have old friends that are part 0:05:27.640 --> 0:05:28.680 of your organization. 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:30.640 So Andrew, I don't even know if you remember me. 0:05:30.680 --> 0:05:36.200 Andrew Hi Janie from w FSU MPR. And Kimberly Archie 0:05:36.240 --> 0:05:38.919 you know me Angela Rai and you introduced me to 0:05:39.760 --> 0:05:43.920 Andrew and Tiftony previously. So we have things to say, 0:05:44.440 --> 0:05:46.000 we'll send them under another cover. 0:05:46.160 --> 0:05:46.760 But one of the. 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.599 Things is keep the show going. Yes, it is incredibly important. 0:05:49.640 --> 0:05:52.400 Your voices are necessary exactly. 0:05:54.040 --> 0:05:56.280 So on this day, as we remember the lies that 0:05:56.320 --> 0:05:58.960 we learned, we want to honor the indigenous community and 0:05:59.040 --> 0:06:01.960 the truth around what this day means for all of us. 0:06:02.200 --> 0:06:04.400 But as we reflect on lies, we didn't think of 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.920 a better segment to highlight. And that's when we discuss 0:06:06.960 --> 0:06:08.799 Projects twenty twenty five. Take a listen. 0:06:10.440 --> 0:06:14.640 What is Project twenty twenty five. It is everyone here, 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.960 This is the movement. We are going to be prepared 0:06:18.040 --> 0:06:22.039 day one January twenty twenty twenty five to hit the 0:06:22.080 --> 0:06:26.200 ground running as conservatives to really help the next president. 0:06:27.000 --> 0:06:31.720 Heritage got on the book on the marker as an 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:36.080 organization by delivering the first mandate for leadership in nineteen 0:06:36.200 --> 0:06:41.000 eighty to President elect Reagan. This task in twenty twenty 0:06:41.000 --> 0:06:43.600 four is too big for any one think tank. This 0:06:43.680 --> 0:06:46.200 has to be a movement, and what we've done is 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.520 use our convening power haired Heritage to bring the entire 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:53.120 movement together. So twenty twenty five is not a Heritage thing, 0:06:53.480 --> 0:06:58.080 it's a Conservative movement thing. What we're doing is systematically 0:06:58.160 --> 0:07:02.040 preparing to march into office and bring a new army 0:07:02.560 --> 0:07:08.839 of aligned, trained, and essentially weaponized conservatives ready to do 0:07:09.000 --> 0:07:10.720 battle against the deep state. 0:07:11.520 --> 0:07:14.800 That was Paul Dan's from Project twenty twenty five telling 0:07:14.880 --> 0:07:18.400 us the truth about what this really is. The one 0:07:18.400 --> 0:07:20.080 thing I want to flag for y'all. On the outset 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:24.280 is Peter Navarro, who is credited with being the master 0:07:24.520 --> 0:07:27.920 architect of Project twenty twenty five, was just sentenced to 0:07:28.200 --> 0:07:31.120 serve time in federal prison two weeks ago for refusing 0:07:31.480 --> 0:07:34.240 to comply with the congressional subpoena about his role in 0:07:34.280 --> 0:07:38.720 the insurrection. And alas here we are with the insurrectionist Blueprint, 0:07:39.080 --> 0:07:42.000 also known as twenty Project twenty twenty five. All nine 0:07:42.080 --> 0:07:45.080 hundred plus pages of it have been shared with you, 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:47.920 Tiff and Andrew. I did not go through every single page, 0:07:47.920 --> 0:07:50.320 but I went through enough. And here's the thing that 0:07:50.320 --> 0:07:55.880 stood out to me. Woke progressivism, woke culture warriors, woke bureaucrats, 0:07:56.120 --> 0:08:02.320 woke extremism, woke propaganda, woke agenda, woke ism, woke dominated 0:08:02.320 --> 0:08:07.880 system of public schools and university, woke revolutionaries who radicals 0:08:07.880 --> 0:08:14.040 supposedly woke faction, woke policies in corporate America, woke gender ideology, 0:08:14.040 --> 0:08:17.160 and even the Department of Education caught some strays with 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:21.480 as a convenient one stop shop for the woke education cartel. 0:08:22.920 --> 0:08:23.840 Do you notice the trend? 0:08:24.480 --> 0:08:24.760 I do? 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:25.320 Can? 0:08:25.400 --> 0:08:27.920 I is this crazy? 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:30.560 I just can? I just I want to discoverer. A 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:32.360 little bit of background for the viewers. So this is 0:08:32.400 --> 0:08:36.199 the birth child of the Heritage Foundation. The Heritage Foundation 0:08:36.320 --> 0:08:38.920 is a very conservative think tank that came out under 0:08:38.960 --> 0:08:41.199 President Nixon, so that should tell you something. But they 0:08:41.200 --> 0:08:44.680 really started gaining traction of power under President Ronald Reagan. 0:08:45.960 --> 0:08:49.000 The Project twenty five. A lot of organizations, a lot 0:08:49.000 --> 0:08:52.120 of groups, a lot of constituencies have policy agendas. So 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:56.400 policy or Project twenty five is kind of like that, 0:08:56.520 --> 0:08:59.600 but extremely more dangerous. And I'll tell you why. It's 0:08:59.640 --> 0:09:03.719 a boor of more than eighty conservative organizations all as 0:09:03.760 --> 0:09:09.079 one hundred Project is one hundred, one hundred organizations, all 0:09:09.240 --> 0:09:13.680 linked in this whole cesspool of policies to dark money, 0:09:14.679 --> 0:09:20.760 including Leonard Leo, who was very influential in shaping the 0:09:20.760 --> 0:09:22.959 Supreme Court of the United States under Donald Trump, very 0:09:22.960 --> 0:09:25.720 attached to him. It does not respect the separation of 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.000 church and state, and it is literally trying to reimagine 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:33.840 the executive brands of government. You heard him say weaponized conservatives. 0:09:34.080 --> 0:09:38.360 They've put millions of dollars in their political arm Heritage 0:09:38.400 --> 0:09:41.439 for America. The interesting thing about this, angeliau U and 0:09:41.440 --> 0:09:44.079 Andrew you both probably know this Heritage Foundation used to 0:09:44.120 --> 0:09:47.960 be led by a black woman, k Cole James, who 0:09:48.080 --> 0:09:51.360 is a Hampton University graduate and sister Girl, was definitely 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.679 parroting all the talking points, all the ridiculous statements coming 0:09:54.679 --> 0:09:57.000 out of Heritage Foundation. They're not new. A lot of 0:09:57.000 --> 0:10:00.800 these policies aren't even new, they're just repackaged and put 0:10:00.800 --> 0:10:03.360 out there. The reason why we should take this seriously, 0:10:03.400 --> 0:10:05.040 because like I said, a lot of groups will put 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:08.479 out these policy agendas, is because they have all aligned. 0:10:08.920 --> 0:10:10.959 And so Andrew makes this point. I don't want to 0:10:10.960 --> 0:10:12.840 steal your point, Andrew, but Andrew makes the point all 0:10:12.840 --> 0:10:14.800 the time that we talk about Donald Trump and the 0:10:14.800 --> 0:10:17.600 Republican Party as though they're separate things, and they have 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:21.240 now merged. The Republican Party is now run by right 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:25.600 wing zealots and MAGA extremists. These are the people they 0:10:25.640 --> 0:10:29.040 are beholden to. And so the whole list that Angela 0:10:29.160 --> 0:10:33.920 just ran down. Should Republicans take the presidency and potentially 0:10:33.960 --> 0:10:37.440 the House and potentially the Senate, they will be able 0:10:37.520 --> 0:10:40.840 to rough house and ramshot all of these policies through 0:10:40.920 --> 0:10:43.640 at the federal level, which is their agenda. Andrew and 0:10:43.640 --> 0:10:45.720 Angela go through all of it. I have more questions 0:10:45.760 --> 0:10:47.800 than I do answers, but I want to punctuate how 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:51.520 dangerous Project twenty twenty five is. It's not the first 0:10:51.520 --> 0:10:54.840 time we've seen it, and hopefully it will be the 0:10:54.920 --> 0:10:57.040 last time we talk about it. But I have my doubts, 0:10:57.840 --> 0:10:59.120 and Andrew. 0:11:00.080 --> 0:11:03.960 Agree to if the dangers here can't be underscore. So 0:11:03.960 --> 0:11:06.360 all of us know the name Koch Brothers. We say 0:11:06.400 --> 0:11:08.920 it is talked about all the time, very wealthy Koch 0:11:08.960 --> 0:11:12.439 brother Industries, Da DA Da DA. Well before there were 0:11:12.520 --> 0:11:16.800 the Koch Brothers, there was Richard Mellon Scaithe He is 0:11:16.960 --> 0:11:21.679 the person responsible for founding the Heritage Foundation and setting 0:11:21.760 --> 0:11:27.200 up the initial cadre of conservative organizations that didn't exist then, 0:11:27.840 --> 0:11:32.800 but were created in the mid nineteen seventies after Republicans 0:11:33.040 --> 0:11:41.040 felt frankly annihilated after Nixon's stepping down from the White House. 0:11:41.559 --> 0:11:46.680 At that time, liberals frankly actually had organization. They had 0:11:46.720 --> 0:11:51.199 funded media outlets, they had funded think tanks, their ideas 0:11:52.120 --> 0:11:55.679 had gotten traction. They had just passed the Voting Rights Act. 0:11:55.960 --> 0:12:00.280 We were thriving in many ways, and at that point point, 0:12:00.480 --> 0:12:08.840 rich white men, as represented by scathe melonscafe meals, cokes. 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:12.440 All those folks there were top five cores as we 0:12:12.559 --> 0:12:15.280 know the course beer at Corps Family. The top five 0:12:15.360 --> 0:12:19.120 conservative donors got together and put tens of millions, now 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:22.960 hundreds of millions of dollars into building what we now 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:25.280 know today as the new Conservative movie. 0:12:25.280 --> 0:12:27.640 They were aided by white women under school to add. 0:12:27.480 --> 0:12:31.880 That, no doubt about it, but certainly this was these 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:36.560 were white men and billions of money either inherited or 0:12:36.679 --> 0:12:39.960 manipulated through the system, and they put their money back 0:12:40.000 --> 0:12:43.360 in protecting their hides. Now this is this is where 0:12:43.400 --> 0:12:46.640 I found the danger of Tiff and Angela. It is 0:12:46.679 --> 0:12:51.079 that these folks. Before it was about getting Republicans elected 0:12:51.200 --> 0:12:55.160 right and governing through the elected process. Now it is 0:12:55.240 --> 0:12:59.600 about the tens of I don't know hundreds of thousands 0:12:59.600 --> 0:13:04.840 of federal workers who will now be replaced as public servants, 0:13:04.880 --> 0:13:08.520 which means these are individuals who serve regardless of whether 0:13:08.559 --> 0:13:12.080 there's a democratic or Republican administration. Where these folks kept 0:13:12.080 --> 0:13:15.880 getting caught up were because they wanted to achieve one goal. 0:13:16.400 --> 0:13:20.200 But career service people, professionals who worked in the Department 0:13:20.200 --> 0:13:22.920 of Agriculture and Energy and Education would say, oh, I'm 0:13:22.920 --> 0:13:25.240 so sorry, mister secretary, you can't do that because that's 0:13:25.280 --> 0:13:28.240 against the law per section such and such and such 0:13:28.280 --> 0:13:30.720 and such and such. Well, they don't want people checking 0:13:30.760 --> 0:13:33.400 them like that. They want loyalists who are willing to 0:13:33.480 --> 0:13:38.160 do whatever the executive says. These people envisioned something that 0:13:38.280 --> 0:13:43.560 is known as the unitary executive, and what that means 0:13:43.600 --> 0:13:46.040 is not just They don't believe in a separation of powers. 0:13:46.280 --> 0:13:50.800 They don't believe in a separation of states, separation of governance, 0:13:50.880 --> 0:13:56.800 meaning the judiciary, the executive in the legislative. They believe 0:13:56.840 --> 0:14:00.480 that the president, when elected president, has all the power. 0:14:01.040 --> 0:14:04.160 I have news for those folks. We got rid of 0:14:04.160 --> 0:14:08.400 that when we were founded. The American Revolution was about 0:14:08.400 --> 0:14:11.720 throwing off the yoke of the unitary executive, the king. 0:14:12.559 --> 0:14:15.359 We don't elect kings in the United States of America. 0:14:15.920 --> 0:14:18.520 So if anybody ever gets deluded that these folks are 0:14:18.559 --> 0:14:24.440 actually championing democracy, that these folks actually believe in standing up, protecting, 0:14:24.600 --> 0:14:28.080 conserving the constitution, or that their strict construction is we 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:30.200 hear that term a lot of times referred to Republicans 0:14:30.320 --> 0:14:33.000 or conservatives. That's not what it is at all. They 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:36.760 only believe that to this end that their agenda wins. 0:14:37.120 --> 0:14:40.560 When their agenda doesn't win, they don't believe in the judiciary, 0:14:40.720 --> 0:14:43.280 they don't believe in the legislative, and if the president 0:14:43.360 --> 0:14:45.200 is the problem, they don't believe in the executive. At 0:14:45.240 --> 0:14:49.280 that time, there are no commitments to beliefs, as we've 0:14:49.280 --> 0:14:53.880 all heard in politics, no permanent friends, no permanent enemies, 0:14:54.360 --> 0:14:58.760 only permanent interest So their interests and their beliefs and 0:14:58.800 --> 0:15:03.000 their philosophy is all about winning for them. And the 0:15:03.000 --> 0:15:05.680 moment that they're not winning, oh, that philosophy can be 0:15:05.720 --> 0:15:08.520 offended at any moment. And that's what we are right now. 0:15:08.600 --> 0:15:10.480 That's I think the thing. So we talked about the 0:15:10.560 --> 0:15:14.040 Koch brothers. We talked about the one hundred plus organizations 0:15:14.080 --> 0:15:19.040 who've signed onto this coalition to participate in dismantling the 0:15:19.080 --> 0:15:23.000 federal government department by department, agency by agency, appointee by 0:15:23.040 --> 0:15:28.520 appointee and burrowed in employees. Yes, but they would burrow in, 0:15:28.720 --> 0:15:32.000 which is also not new. They talked about it being 0:15:32.000 --> 0:15:36.120 an issue long before even Barack Obama was president, and 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:39.320 people burrowed in they would be political and they just 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.600 found the safest career job and they stay there. They've 0:15:42.640 --> 0:15:44.600 been talking about doing that, and now I think now 0:15:44.600 --> 0:15:47.480 it's on a larger scale. I think the other thing 0:15:47.520 --> 0:15:50.760 that's very fascinating to me. I just want to acknowledge 0:15:50.760 --> 0:15:57.160 that I envy their ability to unite around some common goals. 0:15:57.600 --> 0:16:00.400 I am jealous of it. I am frustrated by the 0:16:00.480 --> 0:16:03.760 fact that we don't have something like this, we meaning 0:16:03.800 --> 0:16:07.000 Black folks that represent our interests, because when we do. 0:16:07.680 --> 0:16:10.000 I talk about it all the time, the Black Agenda 0:16:10.040 --> 0:16:12.920 that was put forth by the Black to the Future 0:16:13.000 --> 0:16:15.800 Action Fund, by our dear sister Alicia Garza. It is 0:16:15.840 --> 0:16:19.560 like pulling teeth to get Black folks to support something 0:16:19.600 --> 0:16:22.040 that benefits our best interest. They want to know who 0:16:22.040 --> 0:16:23.680 wrote it, why they wrote it, When did they write it, 0:16:23.720 --> 0:16:25.480 Who's in charge? Was it a man. If it's not 0:16:25.520 --> 0:16:26.960 a man, I can't get behind it. If it was 0:16:27.000 --> 0:16:29.200 a woman, is a woman that I like? All of 0:16:29.240 --> 0:16:31.640 that is so frustrating to me, and I get so 0:16:32.040 --> 0:16:36.240 upset when we can't set aside a thing to focus 0:16:36.320 --> 0:16:38.640 on the main thing. And they've done this here and 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:41.480 they've been doing it for many years. Here's one place 0:16:41.520 --> 0:16:44.480 where I will say that they have a big benefit 0:16:45.000 --> 0:16:48.520 speaking of DEI and dollars they didn't earn. They put 0:16:48.560 --> 0:16:51.680 the dollars, they didn't earn towards something that benefits them 0:16:51.720 --> 0:16:55.960 in a very towards a common goal twenty two million dollars. 0:16:56.200 --> 0:16:59.360 So I bet, I'm just thinking we probably could get 0:16:59.360 --> 0:17:02.280 on the same page, and we probably could move the 0:17:02.320 --> 0:17:04.280 needle a little bit further down the road if we 0:17:04.359 --> 0:17:07.640 had the same resources they have to expend on these things, 0:17:07.640 --> 0:17:12.159 whether it's Americans for Prosperity or the American Legislative Exchange Council, 0:17:12.280 --> 0:17:16.600 or the Heritage Foundation or now Project twenty twenty five, 0:17:16.720 --> 0:17:20.359 all of which have benefited from the infrastructure that they've 0:17:20.359 --> 0:17:24.200 been establishing. Frankly since sixteen nineteen. How about that. 0:17:24.920 --> 0:17:26.840 There may be a point of disagreement here because I 0:17:27.520 --> 0:17:31.679 so I think the Republican Party they're easier to coalesce 0:17:31.720 --> 0:17:34.480 because they have one common goal. I mean, racism is 0:17:34.480 --> 0:17:36.359 at the root of everything they want. So I don't 0:17:36.359 --> 0:17:40.720 want to compare black folks to them like our I 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.560 think our fractured interest is because we're not a homogenous 0:17:43.600 --> 0:17:46.920 group of people. We have different interests, we have different goals. 0:17:47.080 --> 0:17:49.200 I think that's the beauty of us as a people, 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.960 and I often hear people credit the Republicans with like, oh, 0:17:51.960 --> 0:17:53.840 but they have such a simple message or they're better 0:17:53.880 --> 0:17:55.960 at communicating. I don't know if that's true. I think 0:17:56.000 --> 0:18:00.480 their audience is a little more simple and wilfully ignorant 0:18:00.560 --> 0:18:03.640 to a lot of things around policy. I think on 0:18:03.720 --> 0:18:07.760 the left and look, listen, ignorance extends to no matter 0:18:07.760 --> 0:18:11.800 what political party, no matter what kills our economic background. Yeah, exactly, 0:18:11.840 --> 0:18:15.520 it's not partisan. However, I think on the right side 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:19.680 you have people who are just pretty much flatlined. They're 0:18:19.680 --> 0:18:22.000 an easier group to coalesce. On the left, you have 0:18:22.160 --> 0:18:25.640 people who I would argue are a bit more curious 0:18:25.680 --> 0:18:30.440 about things, are not so easily manipulated, and is a 0:18:30.520 --> 0:18:34.080 much bigger tent of people, and so we all represent 0:18:34.240 --> 0:18:38.359 our interests passionately. On the right, you you know, have 0:18:38.480 --> 0:18:41.840 something that's very complicated, like the Affordable Care Act, and 0:18:41.880 --> 0:18:44.160 you could throw out something like death panels and people 0:18:44.200 --> 0:18:46.920 will latch onto it. On the left, it's a little 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.760 more intellectual. People have questions about that, and certainly when 0:18:49.760 --> 0:18:53.320 it comes to black folks, I think we because we 0:18:53.400 --> 0:18:56.400 have been so out of the process for so long, 0:18:56.480 --> 0:18:59.520 we have been denied for so long that now that 0:18:59.560 --> 0:19:02.880 we're in this process, I think we've done an amazing 0:19:03.000 --> 0:19:07.119 job of working together and being a tight community and 0:19:07.119 --> 0:19:09.800 supporting each other and fighting for a lot of our 0:19:09.920 --> 0:19:14.480 rights in a much more wholesome and holistic way than 0:19:14.640 --> 0:19:18.040 the Republican Party, whose entire agenda is based on hate, 0:19:18.520 --> 0:19:20.760 uh and hating other people who they think is taking 0:19:20.800 --> 0:19:21.560 something from them. 0:19:22.200 --> 0:19:24.840 Yeah, I think that their their agenda. If I could 0:19:24.880 --> 0:19:27.600 andrew just really quick, their agenda is more simple. But 0:19:27.680 --> 0:19:30.760 I think it's intellectually dishonest too for us to say 0:19:30.800 --> 0:19:35.359 everyone who votes conservative is dumb. I agree, you know, 0:19:35.520 --> 0:19:37.359 like I think that we have to be careful with that. 0:19:37.480 --> 0:19:41.879 I'm also saying that they're the the organization behind and 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:44.480 the operation behind what they've done is actually massive, and 0:19:44.520 --> 0:19:47.919 it's incredibly intricate. Even if the messaging is simple, I 0:19:47.920 --> 0:19:52.919 think that it would be really uh, it's not smart 0:19:52.960 --> 0:19:55.480 for us to say that it's not very complex. They 0:19:55.520 --> 0:19:58.320 have five oh one C three C fours packs. They 0:19:58.359 --> 0:20:02.320 have again an American Legislative Exchange Council, which is boilerplate 0:20:02.440 --> 0:20:05.520 legislation for people in all fifty states to send in 0:20:05.600 --> 0:20:07.680 and to ensure that it all gets past. That's what 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:12.359 all this anti DEI legislation is now in thirty plus states. 0:20:12.560 --> 0:20:16.760 So it is incredibly complex, and we could argue that 0:20:16.880 --> 0:20:19.240 many of them are focused just on the racism of 0:20:19.280 --> 0:20:23.119 it all. But it started under the guise of fiscal conservativism. 0:20:23.160 --> 0:20:26.280 Even when you look at their four pillars that they're 0:20:26.280 --> 0:20:29.160 all saying that they had to agree on, they're still 0:20:29.200 --> 0:20:32.719 really broad and honestly, Joe Biden's border policy fits in 0:20:32.760 --> 0:20:35.679 with number three. I'll read it. It says, restore the family. 0:20:35.720 --> 0:20:38.240 This is number one. Restore the family as the centerpiece 0:20:38.280 --> 0:20:40.600 of American life, and protect our children. We know what 0:20:40.600 --> 0:20:43.680 that really means to somebody else. Maybe it means something 0:20:43.840 --> 0:20:47.639 exactly what it is. Number two, dismantle the administrative state 0:20:47.960 --> 0:20:51.440 and return self governance to the American people. Expect for 0:20:51.480 --> 0:20:56.119 what is Yovagina. Number three, defend our nation's sovereignty, borders 0:20:56.600 --> 0:21:00.240 and bounty against global threats. Sounds like, in my not 0:21:00.320 --> 0:21:02.359 be a bad idea if you don't read between the lines. 0:21:02.400 --> 0:21:07.000 And four secure our God given individual rights to live. 0:21:07.359 --> 0:21:10.760 I'm sorry to live freely, I said, to lie to 0:21:10.840 --> 0:21:14.360 life freely, that too, to live freely? What our constitution 0:21:14.560 --> 0:21:17.440 calls the blessings of liberty. So when you hear these 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:20.120 things on their face, they don't sound bad. But when 0:21:20.160 --> 0:21:22.239 you get into the nine hundred plus pages and they 0:21:22.280 --> 0:21:25.400 want to dismantle the Department of Justice and they want 0:21:25.440 --> 0:21:28.119 to ensure that a president can manipulate what's happening in 0:21:28.119 --> 0:21:32.240 the FBI and DOJ to target political opponents, that reads 0:21:32.280 --> 0:21:34.840 a little differently. So I just I think that there's 0:21:34.840 --> 0:21:35.760 something smart here. 0:21:35.920 --> 0:21:39.160 I there is something smart, But guess what they got 0:21:39.160 --> 0:21:42.600 it from us. Before there was ever an American Legislative 0:21:42.680 --> 0:21:46.199 Exchange Council, there was something known as the Center for 0:21:46.359 --> 0:21:53.320 Policy Alternatives. This was a national coalition of progressively aligned 0:21:53.400 --> 0:21:57.479 legislators across all fifty states of the United States, and 0:21:57.520 --> 0:22:01.119 they came together produce the Policy Manual every year, and 0:22:01.160 --> 0:22:04.200 then progressive legislators in the states to take those policies 0:22:04.200 --> 0:22:07.080 and then work toward implementation. Now that that pre existed, 0:22:07.560 --> 0:22:09.600 what the right existed. A lot of people know me 0:22:09.640 --> 0:22:12.399 as a candidate, but perform as a candidate, And while 0:22:12.440 --> 0:22:14.919 I was running for office and serving an office, I 0:22:15.040 --> 0:22:19.560 was part of building progressive pipelining. In my case, it 0:22:19.600 --> 0:22:24.040 was candidate development, recruitment, and then after that it was 0:22:24.359 --> 0:22:26.640 gathering those same people that we saw and helped get 0:22:26.640 --> 0:22:28.760