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Speaker 1: twenty twenty two, Season eighteen, episode number ten. Welcome to
Speaker 1: the latest edition All the Break. We're live from the
Speaker 1: s WBC Mortgage studios at the Star. Cowboys have activity
Speaker 1: in the building yesterday. They have their OTAs. I don't
Speaker 1: know it was. It wasn't the beginning. The first practice
Speaker 1: was the day before yesterday. But this is the first
Speaker 1: week of OTAs. They have this week, next week, and
Speaker 1: I think two more weeks after that. I think they
Speaker 1: finish up mid June with their OTAs. They'll have a
Speaker 1: little time for break before we head off to California,
Speaker 1: to Oxnard, California for the trading camp sessions that will
Speaker 1: start up in late July. These guys are gonna tell
Speaker 1: you about everything that happened yesterday in the OTA practices.
Speaker 1: I just was here just to kind of set this
Speaker 1: thing up and say hello to all the listeners out there.
Speaker 1: So it's the OTAs go more like OTAs right, because
Speaker 1: it's timely, time to talk about some football. Yeah, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Uh, you know what, you really want
Speaker 1: to know what I really think now that I just
Speaker 1: said that happy thing, my like, if you're just asking
Speaker 1: me for my gut impression from watching an OTA, I
Speaker 1: was like, m this is maybe why I would have
Speaker 1: done a little more work in the offseason because and
Speaker 1: it's it's may I get it. We're not panicking. But
Speaker 1: tyrants have had back tightness. So he didn't practice yesterday,
Speaker 1: and Matt will let's go the fifth round rookie was
Speaker 1: his primary replacement on the left side. And you know,
Speaker 1: Michael Gallup's still hurt, and Jalen Tolbert's dealing with a
Speaker 1: hammy and something happened to James Washington's foot and so
Speaker 1: somebody has disclosed with it. No, no, but he's wearing
Speaker 1: a boot. He's wearing a big old boot. So and
Speaker 1: not like a cowboy boot, like an orthopedic boot. And
Speaker 1: those who know James Washington or know of him. That's
Speaker 1: a that's an interesting thing because cowboy boot is a
Speaker 1: part of his but so thing and again, like I
Speaker 1: get it, the season is a long long way away,
Speaker 1: but I was like, this is what you could be
Speaker 1: dealing with if something happens in the season. Noah Brown,
Speaker 1: Cede Lamb and Semi Phohoko as your starting receivers, which
Speaker 1: they were, and Matt will let's go playing left tackle.
Speaker 1: That's what I don't understand. Okay, Like James Washington comes
Speaker 1: out in a boot. Okay, he's got something and it's
Speaker 1: not that serious. But yet when when asked to talk
Speaker 1: about it, no, no, absolutely not, we're not I want
Speaker 1: to talk Yeah, no one wants to talk about it
Speaker 1: what it is and you know it's not that serious,
Speaker 1: but we're not talking about it. But yet voluntarily we
Speaker 1: say that Tyran Smith has back tightness. And that's why
Speaker 1: I mean, that's just like, I mean, that creates a
Speaker 1: five alarm fire, Like if you don't want to talk
Speaker 1: about injuries, then don't talk about but then especially don't
Speaker 1: talk about the one that everyone just pencils in, Like
Speaker 1: that's we're just saying, like, well, who's gonna play left tackle?
Speaker 1: Win Tyran Smith gets banged up or whatever, and then
Speaker 1: we're just feeding into it. So like I didn't really
Speaker 1: understand that, Yeah, like why does why is the one
Speaker 1: injuries like a state secret and it's a guy that
Speaker 1: just got here that yeah, and then the other guy
Speaker 1: and you can see evidence of it, like you know
Speaker 1: there's something yeah right, yeah, yeah, they could have just
Speaker 1: they could have just said Tyron Smith personal day, Yeah,
Speaker 1: he needed a personal day, but instead of not coming Yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: the numb but do voluntary meant it was voluntary? That's
Speaker 1: I even like I asked the question to Mike McCarthy.
Speaker 1: I was like, I get that it's voluntary, but you know,
Speaker 1: Tyrone was the only player that wasn't on the field today,
Speaker 1: So what's up with that? Yeah? And he was like no, no, no,
Speaker 1: he was there. Yeah, he could all the way up
Speaker 1: until the point and they had back tightness. It's just
Speaker 1: like and that. Yeah, fans and media alike are like, mm,
Speaker 1: but yeah, I've heard that song before. Then again, though,
Speaker 1: let's let's also throw the other side of it, is,
Speaker 1: is that if anything to a star, any player, but
Speaker 1: especially a star player, if there's anything that is any
Speaker 1: kind of discomfort, they're out, of course, and that's not
Speaker 1: even gonna mess with it. Like I said, I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not panicked in the big picture right now. I
Speaker 1: get it, this is the time of year to be
Speaker 1: smart about those types of things. But I was like,
Speaker 1: we're getting to look at the worst case scenario right
Speaker 1: off the bat here to start this thing out, because
Speaker 1: that would be bad. Yeah, if that was what they
Speaker 1: had to trot out in a regular season game. Quite frankly,
Speaker 1: those two positions, the wide receiver position and the left
Speaker 1: tackle position are positioned where we already know it's then
Speaker 1: we already know these are potential problems because where they
Speaker 1: sit right now, none of us feels feels great about
Speaker 1: the depth right So so yeah, you see right off
Speaker 1: the bat what that could look like, and I don't know.
Speaker 1: It makes me very nervous. Yeah, absolutely. Um, what else
Speaker 1: I actually want to ask you a quick question on
Speaker 1: Jalen Tilburt. You said James Washington was out, Jalen Tobot
Speaker 1: was also out, So you got Noah Brown, you got
Speaker 1: Semi Fioco out there basically running with Ceedee Lamb as
Speaker 1: the wide receivers um. First of all, what do we
Speaker 1: know anything about Jalen Tilburt and what that's got a hammy?
Speaker 1: It's not expected serious. Um. They they think he could
Speaker 1: practice next week. I believe. I mean, you know, we're
Speaker 1: not supposed to disclose too much about what we see
Speaker 1: around here. But he's working out like he's he can
Speaker 1: run it. It ain't you know, his hamstring didn't come
Speaker 1: off or anything, which which again, as a as a rookie,
Speaker 1: you always get a little bit like whoa, hey, you're
Speaker 1: a rookie. You should be able to kind of go
Speaker 1: through this. But it sounds like it's not anything now.
Speaker 1: But well that's the fun thing. It's not like I mean,
Speaker 1: he's he was outside running around earlier this morning. Um.
Speaker 1: But the other thing too is it's like, well, we
Speaker 1: need you to start right like you know, let's not
Speaker 1: we're not gonna push you even though you are a rookie,
Speaker 1: Like make sure that feels okay. I can't remember. I'm
Speaker 1: sure it's happened, but I just can't remember a third
Speaker 1: round pick that has been that has so much you know,
Speaker 1: like on his on his plate about expectations are so
Speaker 1: high for the third round pick. We need you, we
Speaker 1: need you, need you to do stuff. Um, that's good
Speaker 1: for him, but it'd be better if he was out there,
Speaker 1: you know, in the in the off season, in the
Speaker 1: off season program and the OTAs. But like Dave said,
Speaker 1: he'll he'll be fine. But you know, this is a
Speaker 1: chance for these other guys that I mean, think about it.
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson just signed a you know what, seven million
Speaker 1: a year deal with the Dolphins. Cedric Wilson was in
Speaker 1: the same boat as as we viewed him, as as
Speaker 1: we're viewing Fajoko, Noah Brown, point, all these other guys.
Speaker 1: At some point we're like, so, you don't even counting
Speaker 1: Cedric Wilson in there. And then it got to the
Speaker 1: point when Gallup got hurt, he was like that that's
Speaker 1: how good he was. He could step right in. I'm
Speaker 1: not saying these other guys are as good, but we
Speaker 1: didn't have Cedric Wilson on our radar for a while too,
Speaker 1: So maybe maybe these guys can use this advantage. And
Speaker 1: this is the time of year where it can be
Speaker 1: a benefit. I mean, assuming Tyron Smith is okay, I
Speaker 1: think it's a great thing. That yeah, I mean, fingers crossed,
Speaker 1: and I like, you can't you can't just assume that
Speaker 1: I get it, you gotta and like, normally i'd be like,
Speaker 1: whatever it's may but like Tyrone's history speaks for itself.
Speaker 1: You anytime he has to miss time, you should be concerned.
Speaker 1: Back neck, you certainly concerned. But sorry, Just what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say real quick is assuming that it's not
Speaker 1: a huge issue, that's great for Matt. Well, let's go
Speaker 1: to get a lot of reps. Like they they need
Speaker 1: both of those guys. Well, let's go and Josh Ball
Speaker 1: to be practicing an tell me there. I thought, maybe
Speaker 1: I looked at this wrong. Maybe I'm getting my six seven,
Speaker 1: six eight tackles mixed up. I thought that was Ball
Speaker 1: that started at left tackle. Go did a lot of it.
Speaker 1: I mean, Ball got some looks they and team I
Speaker 1: think Ball was out there somewhere, so they're both they're
Speaker 1: both getting some chances. But Ball. They said they were
Speaker 1: gonna work Ball primarily on the right side, and I
Speaker 1: swear I saw him on the right more often than
Speaker 1: I did on the left. I thought the first time
Speaker 1: that they opened things up, I thought it was left.
Speaker 1: But I gotta, I don't even know who's who's who.
Speaker 1: Like this is almost like a Dez Bryant Noah Brown
Speaker 1: thing where I'm gonna have to figure out whose shoes
Speaker 1: or what and because they're kind of I gotta looked
Speaker 1: very similar. Yeah, yeah, I know. Uh well, it's funny like, well,
Speaker 1: let's go got pulled for a pre snap penalty yesterday
Speaker 1: and McCarthy even said, like, yeah, Matt, Matt did that
Speaker 1: or whatever, so like he played on the left side
Speaker 1: a good amount with the starters, even if Ball did
Speaker 1: did so as well. Yeah, and then Waken. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's on your sheet there, but
Speaker 1: if we're talking offensive linemen, I mean, Tyler Smith, did
Speaker 1: I start with the first team? And I don't know
Speaker 1: the reason for that. That's probably not what I would
Speaker 1: have done. But you know that doesn't shock me, does
Speaker 1: it shock you? I mean, I look at I look
Speaker 1: at this team, and I don't know if it's across
Speaker 1: every NFL team because this is the only team I've covered. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but this team, I know traditionally, no matter who the
Speaker 1: coach is, for whatever reason, they just they want rookies
Speaker 1: to understand you're a rookie. So they often even though
Speaker 1: we all know by the time the season gets here,
Speaker 1: they're gonna be playing. Yeah, they just have a pension
Speaker 1: for saying, well, start the especially in minicamp, have you
Speaker 1: have your vet out there and make the rookie earn it.
Speaker 1: You know, that just feels like what they do around here.
Speaker 1: I don't completely disagree, but I thought I thought it
Speaker 1: was a little interesting. Connor McGovern took every single first
Speaker 1: team round. I mean they probably had there were probably
Speaker 1: thirty team reps over the course of the day, and
Speaker 1: Tyler Smith didn't get a single one, which and that's fine,
Speaker 1: it's may I'm gonna keep an eye on it though, Like,
Speaker 1: if that, if that stays the same, if he hasn't
Speaker 1: worked with the first team by the time the offseason
Speaker 1: program is over, that's weird to me. Yeah, and not
Speaker 1: only that, but also you know, McCarthy keeps saying he's
Speaker 1: a left side player. So if he's not gonna start
Speaker 1: over McGovern and Tyron Smith isn't there and he's not
Speaker 1: gonna play, he's not gonna play over, well let's go.
Speaker 1: So that doesn't then you start getting elect I mean,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Why don't you play him at left
Speaker 1: tackle and then play him at left guard on the
Speaker 1: second team. But that's what you're gonna do like well.
Speaker 1: But we also said, and I'll speak for myself, last
Speaker 1: week we talked about that and I said, I hope
Speaker 1: they don't push him out to tackle this year. If
Speaker 1: he's gonna play guard, give him the reps at guard,
Speaker 1: let him get familiar with guard. And if if he's
Speaker 1: a long term guy that you think maybe a tackle,
Speaker 1: deal with that next year. But as a rookie, you're
Speaker 1: gonna need him to play, even him play guard. I mean,
Speaker 1: Tyron's dealing with back tightness on day two, Like what
Speaker 1: if I could tell you right now that he was
Speaker 1: gonna miss five games? You don't want Tyler Smith playing
Speaker 1: any tackle? It just I don't know, because I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know what. I don't know what. Well, let's go,
Speaker 1: let's go. If if well let's go, is a is
Speaker 1: a pretty good tackle as a rookie, like and I'm
Speaker 1: speaking relative terms of rookie, then hey, maybe I'd prefer, well,
Speaker 1: let's go, because I think he might be a guy
Speaker 1: that's gonna play this year. Because I think Tyler Smith
Speaker 1: is gonna be my guard. So I think if I'm
Speaker 1: gonna have if I'm gonna be without one, I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna put him at tackle, and he's gonna be the
Speaker 1: guy that might come in and play for Sorry, go
Speaker 1: ahead and imagine this. The defensive coordinators and the pass
Speaker 1: rushers that are just like, all right, we got well,
Speaker 1: let's go and Tyron Tyler Smith on this left side.
Speaker 1: These two rookies guard and tackle. This is where we're
Speaker 1: gonna rush. We're gonna do this over here, and everybody
Speaker 1: load up on them. By the way, that's center there too.
Speaker 1: You can catch. You can work with all three of
Speaker 1: those guys. Le'll see what we can do. We're gonna
Speaker 1: challenge him. Most of the grizzled vet of the group
Speaker 1: we're gonna challenge him with. With lots of respect to
Speaker 1: Matt Well, let's go. I'm not trying to trash the guy,
Speaker 1: but like, I don't know, Tyler Smith played tackle in
Speaker 1: college at the f BS level and was good enough
Speaker 1: to get drafted in the first round, even if not
Speaker 1: everybody agreed that he should have gone there. Well, let's go.
Speaker 1: Was a fifth round pick that played at North Dakota,
Speaker 1: Like Tyler Smith should be the better option at left tackle, yeah,
Speaker 1: right now, But then the question becomes is he that
Speaker 1: much better for you to take McGovern at guard. But
Speaker 1: see Brian, our good dear friend Brian brought us asked
Speaker 1: me this question yesterday on one oh five three. I
Speaker 1: thought we like we talked about all this and he
Speaker 1: was basically like, at what point do you start worrying
Speaker 1: about cross training? And I was like, honestly, it sounds
Speaker 1: silly because again I don't want to overreact to Tyrne
Speaker 1: missing an OTA, but like, my opinions probably different today
Speaker 1: than it was on Tuesday, where I'm like, if this
Speaker 1: is already something you got to be worried about maybe,
Speaker 1: And I think the answer that I came up with
Speaker 1: I was like, so you practice four days in a
Speaker 1: row at training camp before you get a day off.
Speaker 1: That's typically how the workload works. I would work him
Speaker 1: like three days at guard and one day at tackle. Like,
Speaker 1: I just think it would be smart to get him
Speaker 1: some work there at the very least. Doesn't mean you
Speaker 1: have to play him there, but I think he should
Speaker 1: start getting used to it. Yeah, I would personally, first,
Speaker 1: I would see in the first couple of weeks at
Speaker 1: camp what I think, and they may know coming out
Speaker 1: of OTAs and mini camps, what I think of a
Speaker 1: Lesko what I think of Josh Ball If I think
Speaker 1: one or both of those two options are, again, relatively
Speaker 1: speaking for their level of experience, are pretty good options
Speaker 1: at tackle. And I don't I keep him at guard
Speaker 1: and I keep working him at guard because my thought
Speaker 1: is that that's going going to be my starting guard
Speaker 1: this year, and I don't want to necessarily make it
Speaker 1: harder on him. I want him to really be focused
Speaker 1: on guard. You know what omnipotent is, I'm nipotent. I'm nipotent. Yeah,
Speaker 1: all knowing, But he pronounced that omnipotent? Who did Tyler Smith? Please?
Speaker 1: Don't that's what he's how he pronounced omnipotent. He's twenty one.
Speaker 1: People do that? I mean, yeah, well, people in New Orleans.
Speaker 1: There's a heated debate between whether it's debated pronounced Burgundy
Speaker 1: or Burgundy, and it's like I have never heard well,
Speaker 1: I mean, New Orleans is full of weird pronunciations. But
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, people, yeah, people do stuff like that.
Speaker 1: I'd say omnipotent, though, I think that's the right way.
Speaker 1: We got the best of New Orleans, didn't we? We
Speaker 1: got the best of Louisiana, didn't we? Between you and
Speaker 1: Roland we got the best, and bron we got the best.
Speaker 1: That state, well, Eid came from Texas, Brian was technically
Speaker 1: Roan's from Plain. I'm actually from Louisiana, so raw I
Speaker 1: was born there. Yeah, we don't do many people. We don't.
Speaker 1: We don't claim three one eighth though, no offense slang
Speaker 1: or laning ass trieve it's East Textrie or Southern Arkansas
Speaker 1: or whatever. Yeah, you definitely don't claim that. Um My
Speaker 1: point to all that was is that he that was
Speaker 1: his answer when we did we did get to know
Speaker 1: the rookies. It's a pretty fun piece that Brit Johnson
Speaker 1: did the other day. It was it was and that
Speaker 1: was his answer to that, was that all knowing, all
Speaker 1: power thought would be his superpower and all that. He
Speaker 1: had a lot of answers like that. Smart guys what
Speaker 1: I'm trying to say, he's more. He's a smart guy.
Speaker 1: He can figure that out, he can do that. He
Speaker 1: can go play tackle, he can play guard. And I
Speaker 1: like that seventy at the position you were going to
Speaker 1: play fingers crossed. But but you know this is a
Speaker 1: position you've played before, and you know truth be told,
Speaker 1: maybe well hindsight, I would say maybe, you know, they
Speaker 1: should have or could have done that with Connor Williams,
Speaker 1: but it never really was that big a deal and
Speaker 1: we never really thought Connors should be playing tackle. They
Speaker 1: the team never really said that, Like we talked a
Speaker 1: lot about it, just because that's where he played and
Speaker 1: was good at Texas, but like, yeah, like when they
Speaker 1: drafted him, they weren't at his post draft press conference
Speaker 1: saying like, well, you know, he could be a tackle.
Speaker 1: They were like, yeah, he's hard left guard. Yeah, they
Speaker 1: never said that. Um, I wonder if the dog I
Speaker 1: don't know. I wonder if the Dolphins view him as
Speaker 1: a guy that could be different, you know, different play
Speaker 1: different roles. They just gave a boatload of money to
Speaker 1: a left tackle, So I don't know if he's gonna
Speaker 1: be people in this building that thought he should probably
Speaker 1: play center. Um, if you know, maybe not practice it
Speaker 1: in like the week before a preseason game. Maybe actually
Speaker 1: do it. Yeah, maybe he's just do it all off season.
Speaker 1: So weird, Uh, I was I thought I thought that
Speaker 1: also had an interesting he was talking about Jalen Tilbert,
Speaker 1: not Tyler Smith. But I think the same logic applies
Speaker 1: where he's like keep it simple for the time being,
Speaker 1: Like I don't I don't need you to do everything
Speaker 1: right away, Like, let's start with this and we'll build out.
Speaker 1: And once I feel like you're comfortable with what we're
Speaker 1: talking about at one thing, then we can worry about
Speaker 1: the rest of it. And I think that's probably a
Speaker 1: good approach for any rookie. Ye all right, we're gonna
Speaker 1: take our first break. When we come back, let's talk
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Speaker 1: We were talking about OTAs. I wanted to hear from
Speaker 1: you guys, some standout players. Give me some guys that
Speaker 1: popped yesterday as you were watching practice. Again, we're putting
Speaker 1: it all in context. This is an OTA practice. It
Speaker 1: is not what you typically see on a football field
Speaker 1: during a season. But just from the standpoint of what
Speaker 1: you saw that might have popped out to you, what
Speaker 1: were some some players that stood out well? I mean,
Speaker 1: I thought the most popworthy play of the day was
Speaker 1: Marquise Bell, the Florida A and M safety that we've
Speaker 1: talked about. They gave him a lot of money to
Speaker 1: sign here an undrafted free agency. It's it's very obvious
Speaker 1: how much they like him. Mike McCarthy said yesterday that, um,
Speaker 1: you know, they think he has the same type of
Speaker 1: skill set as a j Ron Curse, like a guy
Speaker 1: that can play off the ball safety but can also
Speaker 1: be a dime linebacker type of guy. And nah he
Speaker 1: he might have stepped out of bounds, but it's hard
Speaker 1: to know that live when you're watching it from field level.
Speaker 1: And nah he picks six. Cooper rush to the stage.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, only at the Star. Only at the Stars graduation.
Speaker 1: People that don't get your joke. It's it's right now.
Speaker 1: They're doing high school graduations for the City of Frisco
Speaker 1: in Ford Center, and so there's a stage and in
Speaker 1: the end zone on one of the end zones where
Speaker 1: they're doing the graduation, so they were kind of having
Speaker 1: to press chair out of that a little bit. McCarthy
Speaker 1: loves well. I think they're outside today, right, hope, beautiful
Speaker 1: day out. Yeah, um no, but yeah, so he it
Speaker 1: was just a basic like out route in the low
Speaker 1: red zone, like two yard line. Um the receiver. The
Speaker 1: receiver was actually wearing nineteen. I can't remember the guy's
Speaker 1: name anymore. It's not a Marii Cooper. Well, oh yeah,
Speaker 1: don Terario Drummond, another undrafted free agent. Um, thank you,
Speaker 1: Chris um. And he picked it off and took it
Speaker 1: to the house and everybody was super hyped and it
Speaker 1: was yeah, it was cool. So I mean, and yeah,
Speaker 1: that's it's fitting that he's he's a guy that people
Speaker 1: are talking about because of how much money they gave him.
Speaker 1: Let's let's talk about that a little bit like that
Speaker 1: type of play. When I think of an outroute around
Speaker 1: the end zone picked off to the house, I only
Speaker 1: think of Dion Sanders. I mean, that's what that's the okay,
Speaker 1: I mean, Andrey doesn't matter what part of the field
Speaker 1: is I don't even remember that play. I've seen Edred
Speaker 1: pick that. I mean, he just kind of but I
Speaker 1: might have been other interceptions. But what I'm talking about is,
Speaker 1: is Jon Curse that type of player. It's the first
Speaker 1: time i'd really heard him compare him to Curse. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but if he's that type of guy, think about covering
Speaker 1: receivers at the goal line, out routes type of thing.
Speaker 1: If you think he can be close to the box
Speaker 1: type of safety. What a skill set that is to
Speaker 1: be able to do that. Again, it's all early. And
Speaker 1: let's also who did he pick off? Yeah? And how
Speaker 1: long did that ball get to the You know, sometimes
Speaker 1: those passes, you know, they need to be a lot quicker.
Speaker 1: So I who knows. But it was a great play,
Speaker 1: and it's not the first Every time you look up
Speaker 1: he's doing something. Yeah, he's He's definitely been a standout.
Speaker 1: There's no doubt about it. They thought he was gonna
Speaker 1: be good. He has been. I know. On was it
Speaker 1: Players Lounge that Chris Hall, a long time scout, came on.
Speaker 1: It was No, it wasn't Players. I'm sorry. He was
Speaker 1: on the whole show last week. Talked a lot about
Speaker 1: Marquis bell very, you know, just they were on his radar.
Speaker 1: I bet they never dreamed. I don't know, because he
Speaker 1: was a thirty visit guy. I really don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't mean, I'm sure Florida and him had something to
Speaker 1: do with it. Um just just small school guy and
Speaker 1: maybe see that's the thing that's we talked about all
Speaker 1: the time about dan Quinn and the vision that he
Speaker 1: looks at that hybrid. So there's like that's the good,
Speaker 1: nice way of saying it, hybrid. He can do this
Speaker 1: and that negative scouts couldn't call him a tweener, like
Speaker 1: where is he? Is he as safety? Is he to
Speaker 1: play him? I where to play this guy? And so
Speaker 1: that's why every some players have you know, coaches have
Speaker 1: different visions for different players, and so this was one,
Speaker 1: and you know you would have thought, you know, this
Speaker 1: being said, I'm kind of surprised they didn't draft him
Speaker 1: over Devin Harper in the sixth round if they like
Speaker 1: him so much. But you know, I kind I tend
Speaker 1: to agree with that. But they said, we're gonna money
Speaker 1: whip somebody, and we will him and it'll be him.
Speaker 1: They really did. Um. I just remember when like fifty
Speaker 1: thousand was like the big signing bonus, like fifty thousand.
Speaker 1: They gave a guy named George Farmer thirty five my
Speaker 1: first or second year, or maybe it was fifty I
Speaker 1: thought it was thirty five. Either way, like two hundred
Speaker 1: thousand dollars to play safety, and in a like a
Speaker 1: few months later he was playing receiver THEWS. He came
Speaker 1: in at receiver. He came here at receiver, and the
Speaker 1: Seahawks tried to move him to later. Yeah, um, Mica
Speaker 1: Parsons is still really good at football, for whatever that's worth. Yeah,
Speaker 1: did you stand out? Well, I mean yes, But that's
Speaker 1: the funny thing about OTAs is like they're going to
Speaker 1: keep the play going and so you have a chance
Speaker 1: to see the receivers and all this stuff. Like so
Speaker 1: he runs around the corner, he taps the quarterback on
Speaker 1: the Mica Parsons. We're like you know that right, We're like,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, these young tackles are getting so much work.
Speaker 1: Micah Parsons whipped their asses like three different times, just
Speaker 1: like uh, Mike, Mike is in the backfield that this
Speaker 1: plays over, Like I know Cooper Rush is about to
Speaker 1: throw it, but this play's over. Like that happened like
Speaker 1: three times yesterday. Go ahead and throw it if you want,
Speaker 1: but yeah, and you know, it's like it's almost like
Speaker 1: it and it's like not even worth talking about because
Speaker 1: it's like, well, yeah, it's Mica going against the backup
Speaker 1: Tackles's kind of a where's Waldough too, because you're watching
Speaker 1: these drills and you're looking and you're like, all right,
Speaker 1: there's you know, there's Gifford and and Layton and you're like,
Speaker 1: something's not right here. You're like, oh, yeah, where's Mica
Speaker 1: And you're like, okay, pass rusher there, Yeah, oh he's
Speaker 1: down there, down there. Yeah. So he was doing both.
Speaker 1: He was the linebacker, he's doing pass rush. He had
Speaker 1: a moment um. Sorry, no, go ahead. He like, you know,
Speaker 1: there's everybody's got their routine before it takes an hour
Speaker 1: for the interesting part of practice to really start. Like
Speaker 1: guys are in their position groups, they're they're working with
Speaker 1: their coaches on their footwork. They're doing this and they're
Speaker 1: doing that. Mica did this two or three different times,
Speaker 1: like he was with Treyvon and the corners working on
Speaker 1: the jugs machine. Then he sprints over to like go
Speaker 1: work with pass rushers. On handwork and stuff like that.
Speaker 1: Later on, he's doing not like true seven on seven,
Speaker 1: but he's doing like the seven on seven install or
Speaker 1: whatever you want to call it, where he's like calling
Speaker 1: out the back seven jogs across the field to to
Speaker 1: go work on the trench stuff. Later I was like,
Speaker 1: this guy's getting his steps in, just moving between all
Speaker 1: the different things to be doing. Yeah, you know they were.
Speaker 1: I mean, I think it's okay. I mean they were
Speaker 1: working out a punter. Was that him? I mean, I
Speaker 1: don't know, I mean mica I mean maybe, I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't see him. Here's something that I'm sure they
Speaker 1: would not want me to say, and this is just
Speaker 1: just my observation, but I got the sense that Sam
Speaker 1: Williams is going to be doing similar things as mica Um.
Speaker 1: I didn't see him put his hand in the dirt
Speaker 1: a whole eye yesterday. I saw him playing some line
Speaker 1: like linebacker, but I also see him Russian like right
Speaker 1: over the center, like right, you know, just doing some
Speaker 1: some things Like I could just see him doing things
Speaker 1: in a similar way, like rushing him in different ways.
Speaker 1: Just what a nightmare that would be for other teams.
Speaker 1: If if you've got rushers that are coming from all
Speaker 1: over the place, you know where the law is going
Speaker 1: to be cool, you know, try to stop him. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but then you got other guys that are that
Speaker 1: could just mix and match, and that that's going to
Speaker 1: create problems. If he's capable. I'm not saying he's gonna
Speaker 1: be Micah, but if he's capable of rushing like that,
Speaker 1: that'll be interesting. I do kind of love the idea,
Speaker 1: And that's what we always talk about, is like tight
Speaker 1: end is kind of similar. I talked to Dalton Schultz
Speaker 1: about that a lot yesterday, just like he just there's
Speaker 1: really only so much you can do to get ready
Speaker 1: for the physicality of like going against NFL defensive ends
Speaker 1: as a rookie, and defensive ends are kind of the
Speaker 1: same way. That's why, like, unless you're like a Miles Garrett,
Speaker 1: you typically don't start out fast because like going against
Speaker 1: a Tyrn Smith is incredibly hard. Well, maybe you don't
Speaker 1: have to ask Sam Williams to do that. You're just like, well,
Speaker 1: we got three guys that can do that stuff. You
Speaker 1: just we'll just line you up somewhere out of way
Speaker 1: to put you somewhere and let you go. Yeah, we'll
Speaker 1: line you up somewhere where you can just try to
Speaker 1: have a free run or as close to it as possible.
Speaker 1: So yeah, that'd be fun. Yeah. It was interesting yesterday
Speaker 1: I saw that that Tank was talking after practice about
Speaker 1: the fact that he led rookie kind of house shining
Speaker 1: him last year. He's talking about Micah and he's trying
Speaker 1: to reassert his dominance as the alpha in the room
Speaker 1: on the defensive side of the ball, which I like,
Speaker 1: I'll bring it like, Yes, I would love a competition
Speaker 1: between you and Michael to see who can be the biggest,
Speaker 1: the bast dude on the team, you know, So, um, yeah,
Speaker 1: I love that. We'll see if how that works out there. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I don't see Michael getting any worse. I only see
Speaker 1: Michael going up, so you know, only the only Michael
Speaker 1: will only get better if the law is out there. Yeah. True,
Speaker 1: So that's very true. Yeah, and maybe and maybe vice versa,
Speaker 1: you know, I mean, maybe Tank, But either way, I mean,
Speaker 1: I think that's a great problem to happen. Absolutely, who's
Speaker 1: your best defensive But um, you talked about tight end.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know they obviously need a second tight
Speaker 1: end that they need a blocking tight end and Ferguson
Speaker 1: is the guy that you know they drafted and all that.
Speaker 1: But I mean, if Sprinkle is gonna catch touchdowns, yeah, yeah, two,
Speaker 1: if he's gonna do that, like because he is kind
Speaker 1: of a blocker, and they they used him a little
Speaker 1: bit more as the season went on last year. Um,
Speaker 1: probably because Blake Darwin was was injured. But you know,
Speaker 1: I don't think Sprinkles ready to just give it up,
Speaker 1: you know, and not compete for It'll be interesting to
Speaker 1: see what happens. Jeremy Sprinkle and Sean McCune both got
Speaker 1: plenty of reps with the Ones yesterday, and I don't
Speaker 1: remember seeing Jake Ferguson get one. And that I good, honestly,
Speaker 1: and like, not anything against Jake Ferguson, but like it's
Speaker 1: a tough again for the millionth time. It's a tough
Speaker 1: position to transition to. And that's one like, and I
Speaker 1: get it you're curious about the draft pick, but like
Speaker 1: people ask me a lot of questions about him, and
Speaker 1: I'm just like, he's gonna have his work cut out
Speaker 1: for him to beat out a seventh year vet and
Speaker 1: now a third year of vetted mckun behind the franchise
Speaker 1: tag starter, like, I don't like, nothing's gonna be handed
Speaker 1: to that guy. You got to prove that you're definitively
Speaker 1: better than they are. This is a point that I
Speaker 1: think Dave brought up a couple of weeks ago in
Speaker 1: one of our meetings, and I'm sure we're going to
Speaker 1: write about it or something, but you know, the second
Speaker 1: year guys, last year's draft class are having a hard
Speaker 1: time finding roles for them. I mean, these guys are are,
Speaker 1: Josh Ball being one of them, nay Sean and right
Speaker 1: even Kelvin, Joseph Mkuamu. I mean, I know I'm missing
Speaker 1: a coach, Golston, Well we'll talk about him. Second, he's
Speaker 1: creating a spot for himself for Hoko. Those guys right there,
Speaker 1: there's nothing's guaranteed for them other than like Micah, you know.
Speaker 1: And so imagine the rookies of this ship that just
Speaker 1: got here. I mean there, if last year's rookies are like, well,
Speaker 1: I'm trying to fight for a spot, then of course
Speaker 1: they are too, and with a year behind, so um,
Speaker 1: I would say the deeper roster than I think people
Speaker 1: are giving them credit for. I mean, this roster has
Speaker 1: got some talent in it. Maybe not the heavy hitters
Speaker 1: that you want them to have, but I think that
Speaker 1: they're starting to show that they do have some pretty
Speaker 1: decent depth at the maybe not I'm sorry, or that
Speaker 1: the draft, because if the draft picks are having a
Speaker 1: hard time getting on the field and the team doesn't suck,
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, then I think that that's showing
Speaker 1: that there's got some decent depth, and I think the
Speaker 1: point needs to be made on that way. You said,
Speaker 1: not the heavy hitters that you want, but not the
Speaker 1: heavy hitters you've been used to sing. They may have
Speaker 1: other players that can step into some of those roles
Speaker 1: if they feel like except in some of those roles
Speaker 1: if we haven't seen yet that we will see if
Speaker 1: they can be that right, if they can get let's
Speaker 1: say Sam Williams to be a guy that can be
Speaker 1: a good pass rush specialist for them. Essentially, that's what
Speaker 1: they were getting out of Randy Gregory. Randy Gregory wasn't
Speaker 1: a player that they use a ton like. They didn't
Speaker 1: use it. You look at this snapcount. He wasn't used
Speaker 1: a ton. If they can get that kind of production
Speaker 1: just from a pass rush standpoint between him and whatever
Speaker 1: other guys they've brought in, then they may feel like
Speaker 1: they've already supplemented that in the way that they needed
Speaker 1: to supplement it. It may just be different, it may
Speaker 1: look different than what we've been used to seeing. You're
Speaker 1: not wrong, but I'm just not going to give it
Speaker 1: the benefit of the doubt. And I do agree that
Speaker 1: I'm just the roster. There's depth on the roster, a
Speaker 1: lot of it's not proven. Like you look at it
Speaker 1: and you're like, uh, I feel pretty good about like
Speaker 1: spots thirty through fifty, just in terms of having talented
Speaker 1: guys there, But who's gonna step up and be somebody
Speaker 1: that I can count on? I mean, I think about
Speaker 1: this all the time, and I know there were issues
Speaker 1: with Joseph Randall that we're beyond football that got in
Speaker 1: the way of his success. But like when DeMarco left,
Speaker 1: you remember the just boundless confidence in the building about
Speaker 1: how the meat on the bone comment. They were like, well,
Speaker 1: this guy can be better than DeMarco. Like we're good
Speaker 1: with Joe, We've got Joe McFadden got yeah and Morris.
Speaker 1: Sometimes they're right. Sometimes it does work out like that.
Speaker 1: A lot of times it doesn't, like this is the
Speaker 1: time of year for boundless optimism, and I'm just like, Okay,
Speaker 1: maybe James Washington will be that dude when he gets
Speaker 1: a better opportunity, or maybe we'll all wish Amari Cooper
Speaker 1: was still here in October. We're saying the same thing.
Speaker 1: I'm not saying that it's proven. What I'm saying is
Speaker 1: it just may look different, and it may look that's
Speaker 1: what they're hoping. They're hoping that they still have the
Speaker 1: same level of productive players. It's just going to look
Speaker 1: different than what you've been used to sing to this.
Speaker 1: I would sign the best wide receiver free agent out
Speaker 1: there right now that can play, that can play, and
Speaker 1: who is that? God the guy re having an injury?
Speaker 1: Yeah I know that, But who's who's the guy right
Speaker 1: now that you could think of. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I'd sign him because it's not only because I need
Speaker 1: a guy to come in here and and you know, perform.
Speaker 1: I really think when the season starts, I think I'm
Speaker 1: gonna need that guy. Even when they come back, I'm
Speaker 1: not sure Washington and Tolber will be I don't think
Speaker 1: that will put be ready. I I could use that guy,
Speaker 1: and I don't I understand the term progress stopper. What
Speaker 1: give it? Julio Jones, Yeah, I'd sign him. He's I mean,
Speaker 1: he's kind of Tyrn Smithy at this point. Yeah healthy.
Speaker 1: I can't rely on him. I need somebody actually rely on.
Speaker 1: Will Fuller. Not reliable health wise. That's probably why a
Speaker 1: lot of them are out on them. Yeah, free agent
Speaker 1: market right now is because they're probably not reliable players.
Speaker 1: Cole Beasley Nope, No, not interested, Nope, t Y Hilton
Speaker 1: even a little bit, like literally all of all of
Speaker 1: the guys that got something. I mean, the only one
Speaker 1: that looks appealing is Odell Beckham, and he won't be
Speaker 1: healthy until way after the season starts. It's you want
Speaker 1: him in that statement? Are you're still gonna get one
Speaker 1: of those guys? I'm trying to think Alan Hearns bring
Speaker 1: him back? Oh my god? Good? Is he still like
Speaker 1: I don't know he's on the list. I don't, I
Speaker 1: don't know. Just don't think that he fits for what
Speaker 1: you need right now. I'm I'm wrestling with the with
Speaker 1: the little guy. I don't know. I'm not did he
Speaker 1: did he hold on? Has he said enough at things
Speaker 1: where like he wouldn't be welcome back. I don't think so, right,
Speaker 1: not for me? But what yeah, okay, okay, okay, I'm
Speaker 1: done there. But you feel free to take that option
Speaker 1: if you want it. But why is he Why is
Speaker 1: he available? Because he wanted out of Buffalo and I
Speaker 1: don't he's thirty three and has a very specific role. Yeah,
Speaker 1: roll easily nice. I don't know. I mean, I mean,
Speaker 1: the thing is, he can't he can't give you the versatility. Indeed,
Speaker 1: if you need somebody that can step in and do
Speaker 1: different things, he's not that guy. Here's a guy. It's
Speaker 1: a slot guy. That's it. And I've said this. I
Speaker 1: mean I think that he his situation with Dez, they
Speaker 1: were perfect for each other because des really wasn't going
Speaker 1: to play in the slot and he wasn't gonna play
Speaker 1: on the outside. And I think he benefited from that
Speaker 1: and benefited greatly, and he was a really good, really
Speaker 1: good player. But CD does playing the slot. Yeah, CD
Speaker 1: does play the side, and he spent most of the
Speaker 1: day yesterday, and you want your number one to be
Speaker 1: able to do all those So he can't help you.
Speaker 1: Because now when CD's in the slot, where's he go to? Slideline?
Speaker 1: I meant Dick seemed to make it work. But you know,
Speaker 1: but the Dicks, I don't know if dis plays inside.
Speaker 1: I don't know. No, No, I'm just saying with Beasley
Speaker 1: there in Buffalo, they were making it work. I mean yeah,
Speaker 1: But my question is, like was was Dick's primarily an
Speaker 1: outside guy. He didn't go into the slot, so it
Speaker 1: allowed for outside of them. So this is a waste
Speaker 1: to But I think they do need to sign somebody
Speaker 1: that that it's healthy and he's got new song, does
Speaker 1: he like go check it out? No, I'm good, I
Speaker 1: would probably. I don't know. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 1: If you're a hip hop connoisseur, you don't have no desires.
Speaker 1: I listened, he's he's not bad for a football player.
Speaker 1: It's but I don't feel the need to go back
Speaker 1: to it. You know. I just remember that one thing
Speaker 1: we saw. I guess he was in a studio or something.
Speaker 1: It was like take a breath, like it was. It
Speaker 1: was like it was impressive. I mean I was impressed
Speaker 1: by it. But you know, anyways, Um, I didn't mean
Speaker 1: to take us down that road. What I was really
Speaker 1: gonna say is, so they took us down that road.
Speaker 1: They drafted eleven guys last year, and two of them
Speaker 1: kind of came out of last season with defined roles.
Speaker 1: It was Osa and Mica. That's about it. And you
Speaker 1: can't even say Jabril Cox because like as high as
Speaker 1: your hopes are for him, he hasn't done anything. He's
Speaker 1: been hurt and he's not he's not ready right now.
Speaker 1: He's not practicing right now, So that is I'm not
Speaker 1: good at math. But that's nine guys. They need more
Speaker 1: than a couple of them to rise up deuced. Come on,
Speaker 1: I need you about one of those guys that I
Speaker 1: that was showed up yesterday in chauncys Uh with Osa
Speaker 1: being out. Golston was in there at a squad bruise
Speaker 1: for Osa. For anybody wondering, I don't think it's super serious. No,
Speaker 1: probably took a helmet on the leg on Tuesday or
Speaker 1: something like that. Um, but I think that you know,
Speaker 1: from what sounds like he's gained some weight to this
Speaker 1: is going to be a permanent move for him. He's Chauncey,
Speaker 1: He's you don't have to worry. He's a d tackle now.
Speaker 1: That's their plan for him. They want him to be
Speaker 1: able to play three tech and maybe even some like
Speaker 1: five tech when when they do their hybrid stuff, when
Speaker 1: you think about what they got right now, defensive end, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I think that's the best option for him. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: I did too. And and you know, wasn't Golston a
Speaker 1: defense of end at the Senior Bowl? And then he
Speaker 1: wanted to play tackle? He was a d end in
Speaker 1: college and for most of his career, and they were
Speaker 1: just they were short on tackles at the Senior Bowl
Speaker 1: and he offered to kick inside and he did it.
Speaker 1: He did it at this time last year too, like
Speaker 1: they played him at tackle when he got here before
Speaker 1: he got hurt. But that the is that the common
Speaker 1: thought right now on the football side of the building
Speaker 1: that he is a defensive tackle. Yes, yeah, Like he's
Speaker 1: put on like twenty pounds of weight. That's like this
Speaker 1: isn't like, oh, maybe we'll do some of that. Like
Speaker 1: they view him as a d tackle, right. Can I
Speaker 1: just tell you right now when we do our two
Speaker 1: to watch right before the first preseason game, but it's
Speaker 1: gonna be your guy, It's gonna be Chauncey Golston. Because
Speaker 1: I'll say this, you won't see a lot of this
Speaker 1: them in pads. He'll flash a couple of times here
Speaker 1: and there. He'll be good. He'll get past the guard
Speaker 1: to get the left guard. Whoever. He get passed Tyler
Speaker 1: Smith and all that. Looking really good at tackle, but
Speaker 1: he's gained some weight to get there. He's still kind
Speaker 1: of a pass rusher. Let's see what happens when he
Speaker 1: gets locked up against a real all pro or just
Speaker 1: a veteran guard. Can he withstand that? That's gonna be
Speaker 1: the key? Yeah, third nine, he could rush from the
Speaker 1: inside and he could be good. Third and two run
Speaker 1: running at him. I want to see what happen. And
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he can't, but I think that's that's
Speaker 1: gonna be the big question for him. Yeah. So all right,
Speaker 1: we're gonna take our final break. We'll come back, and
Speaker 1: we got a few more observations we want to hit
Speaker 1: from practice. We'll do that. Want to come right back.
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Speaker 1: I got to school and we had a drill or
Speaker 1: it was a thunderstorm, I never cared. I never cared
Speaker 1: because you know what, I'm at school. Nothing's going to
Speaker 1: happen to me at school, never and I and that's
Speaker 1: the fear is And I got honked at yet the
Speaker 1: day afterwards letting my kid walk to school, walk to
Speaker 1: the you know, he's got to walk forty yards right
Speaker 1: after I dropped him off, I watched all forty of
Speaker 1: them because I want to see him get in the school.
Speaker 1: That doesn't mean he's safe, but I wanted to see that.
Speaker 1: Ladies honking at me behind and all that give a shit,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, I don't and and and so anyways, everyone's
Speaker 1: got their opinion. But um, I thought the guys you know,
Speaker 1: were we were. It was the It was the guys
Speaker 1: that should have said it and then and they all
Speaker 1: can have an opinion. I saw that guy for the
Speaker 1: Warriors that that had some really good things. He doesn't
Speaker 1: even play and he has great things to say. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: not Steve Kerr one of the other players. Um, but
Speaker 1: um tank Dak McCarthy. You know, they all said what
Speaker 1: they should say, and you know everyone everyone wants to answer,
Speaker 1: wants change. I had a funny moment yesterday which I
Speaker 1: don't have kids. I can't. It doesn't no, I know,
Speaker 1: I know, but of course you're hum. I was getting there,
Speaker 1: but sorry, um, of no, of course, of course. But
Speaker 1: I texted a friend of mine yesterday and I was like, like,
Speaker 1: do you even want to have kids? Like it? Like,
Speaker 1: is that something I should aspire to? If this is
Speaker 1: the reality that we live in? And so I was
Speaker 1: just going back and forth with my friend like that,
Speaker 1: and then later that day, Dak said something said it
Speaker 1: kind of took my breath away. Dak was like, I'm
Speaker 1: kind of fearful to have kids if this is the
Speaker 1: world we live in. And like for Dak Prescott to
Speaker 1: say that, like I kind of had a moment where
Speaker 1: I was like, you know, Dak is like he's he's confident.
Speaker 1: He's like the most confident guy I've ever been around.
Speaker 1: He's like an optimistic and yeah, and for him to
Speaker 1: say that, um hammered home just how horrible the situation
Speaker 1: really is. Yeah, And I don't know, man, it's gross.
Speaker 1: It's and like I hate the fact that I'm even
Speaker 1: trying to like couch my words right now, because like
Speaker 1: how is this such a divisive issue, Like how is
Speaker 1: this being bad something that pisses people up? Like, well,
Speaker 1: you can't say that, like, you know, it's easier. It's
Speaker 1: harder for me to go buy a razor at CBS
Speaker 1: than it is for somebody to get that gun, and
Speaker 1: like that's not okay. And the fact that he's saying
Speaker 1: it's not okay, it's gonna piss somebody listening to this
Speaker 1: off is absolutely insane. I can't I don't, you know. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I could go on and on and on and on,
Speaker 1: but at this point it doesn't feel like it would
Speaker 1: do any good. Yeah, And that's that's a tough thing.
Speaker 1: I was telling somebody this the other day. Regardless of
Speaker 1: where you fall politically, the fact is this country. There's
Speaker 1: something built into the fabric of this country when it
Speaker 1: comes to guns that doesn't really exist in any other
Speaker 1: part of the world that I'm aware of, And a
Speaker 1: lot of that has to do with kind of how
Speaker 1: the country was formed and fighting against another government that
Speaker 1: was that they felt like had ultimate power over them,
Speaker 1: and so there's this inherent thing of we gotta keep
Speaker 1: our weapons, we gotta keep our weapons, and because of that,
Speaker 1: we have this feeling, there's a feeling in our country
Speaker 1: for a certain number of people that that's just the
Speaker 1: right that they are not willing to give up. And
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter what the circumstances, they're not willing to
Speaker 1: give that up. And I think that's where we end
Speaker 1: up in a situation like this, where you know, although
Speaker 1: you look at it, you're like common senses, this is
Speaker 1: a problem, but it's just it's something that's built into
Speaker 1: this country, and it's it's it's that's why it's so problematic,
Speaker 1: and trying to find a solution it's so problematic. Well,
Speaker 1: does it have to be an assault rifle? No, it does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know what. The funny thing like I was talking
Speaker 1: to Taylor Stir and our old friend about this yesterday.
Speaker 1: She bought a handgun like years ago. She lived alone.
Speaker 1: She you know, she wanted it for protection. I'm in favor, honestly,
Speaker 1: Like I'm It's like people think that there can't be
Speaker 1: middle ground here. I'm pro Second Amendment. I don't want
Speaker 1: it to go away. What about background checks? What about
Speaker 1: certain weapons waiting periods? What about maybe you know, maybe
Speaker 1: this rifle that can fire forty rounds in ten seconds
Speaker 1: just shouldn't be available. I'm sorry. You can have your
Speaker 1: hunting rifle, you can have your handgun for self defense.
Speaker 1: I just don't think you need an a R fifteen.
Speaker 1: And I don't care if you've got like a hog
Speaker 1: problem on your property, Like there's another way you can
Speaker 1: figure that out. Yeah, or even maybe if that's what
Speaker 1: you need it for, you can We were talking about
Speaker 1: your daughter getting your driver's license, the other day, the
Speaker 1: day that this happened, and we're like, you gotta take
Speaker 1: like week's worth of classes and pass these test months
Speaker 1: to drive a car. To drive a car, you gotta
Speaker 1: jump through ten different hoops to be able to drive
Speaker 1: a car. Why not, Like you know, somebody was like you,
Speaker 1: maybe a forty eight hour waiting period to buy a
Speaker 1: gun like this, how about a six month waiting period
Speaker 1: if you need it that bad for a practical practical
Speaker 1: purpose and you're that responsible, you can wait. Everybody else, sorry,
Speaker 1: too bad? Like what's so controversial about that? It's unbelievable. Well,
Speaker 1: and you can still have your like I said, you
Speaker 1: can have your revolver for self protection or what like.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to take that from you. Yeah, we
Speaker 1: just need a little bit of common sense here and
Speaker 1: we can maybe avoid some of this crap about it,
Speaker 1: like you to pick up the pace though, I mean, well, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm just saying. You know, no one's saying, well, man,
Speaker 1: we don't have enough people will drive's licensee's doing that
Speaker 1: pole where we are worried about ranking of Yeah, I
Speaker 1: mean we should we should be you should have to
Speaker 1: take another test once you reach a certain age. Or
Speaker 1: like once you've been gone from like once you've taken
Speaker 1: once enough years of fast from your driver's test, you
Speaker 1: should be retested. I can go on and on about this.
Speaker 1: Let's think about this. And an eighteen year old in
Speaker 1: the state of Texas can go and buy an assault rifle.
Speaker 1: They cannot go and buy liquor. So I'm saying that,
Speaker 1: like the laws just don't match up. That's my thing. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm just like, let's get something to make sense here,
Speaker 1: because it just it doesn't make sense. You can do
Speaker 1: a lot more damage with an assault rifle than you
Speaker 1: can with a bottle of liquor. And I just I
Speaker 1: feel like if they're not mature enough to be able
Speaker 1: to be responsible, be able to be allowed to be
Speaker 1: responsible enough to drink and handle themselves the right way,
Speaker 1: then what makes you think that they're responsible enough to
Speaker 1: handle an assault rifle. That's where I'm and again I'm
Speaker 1: with you, Dave, Like I don't know that this means,
Speaker 1: like I'm not trying to take people's guns. I'm just saying, like,
Speaker 1: is there a common around that we can find here
Speaker 1: that makes some sense? It just doesn't all make sense
Speaker 1: right now. Well, I'm not comparing this at all to
Speaker 1: nine to eleven. I mean, I'm not I mean people
Speaker 1: some people could say whatever. All I'm saying is, is
Speaker 1: this stuff happening in an airport right now? There's a
Speaker 1: reason why it ain't gonna happen in an airport. And
Speaker 1: we got to get to that point where and I
Speaker 1: know it's there's a ton more schools than there are airports.
Speaker 1: I get it, but it's got to be treated somewhat
Speaker 1: on that path of like what our schools are. Yeah,
Speaker 1: not to get too philosophical, but I don't know if
Speaker 1: you guys have heard of Maslow's hierarchy of needs. The
Speaker 1: whole premises you can't really reach certain levels of needs
Speaker 1: if the basic levels aren't taken care of. And in
Speaker 1: that same way, I look at my kid going to
Speaker 1: school as the priority. The first priority is you better
Speaker 1: keep them safe, because when I drop them off in
Speaker 1: the morning, my expectation is number one, I get to
Speaker 1: get them back in the evening. Number two is you're
Speaker 1: going to educate them, right, but if you can't keep
Speaker 1: them safe, then the education becomes somewhat irrelevant. So you
Speaker 1: could say what you want to say about Yeah, we
Speaker 1: got a lot of schools, it will cost whatever amount
Speaker 1: of money. If you're not protecting them, then everything else
Speaker 1: becomes irrelevant. So first priority for every school district, for
Speaker 1: every city figuring out how they deploy their police departments.
Speaker 1: It should start with how do we take care our
Speaker 1: most vulnerable which is kids. Start there at the top
Speaker 1: of that list. How do we take care of our kids?
Speaker 1: How do we make sure they're protected and they feel protected?
Speaker 1: And if you can't do that, you're missing on everything else,
Speaker 1: because that is the top priority. The irony too, is
Speaker 1: like and I don't want to speak too confidently, but
Speaker 1: like it seems like there were things in place to
Speaker 1: protect it, Like there were officers on the scene and
Speaker 1: didn't find them mattering. Yeah, but that also questions like
Speaker 1: what was what was their level of training? Sure, what
Speaker 1: was what was the what was the security outfit? Looking
Speaker 1: at the facility, like it sounds like the gunman went
Speaker 1: in through up an unlocked back door. Like again, there
Speaker 1: are all these different things and like Nick said, it
Speaker 1: ain't happening at airport. We all walk an airport and
Speaker 1: we see a bunch of guns and it's like one
Speaker 1: of those things where those people know how to use them.
Speaker 1: And if you're going there, you better be prepared for
Speaker 1: a fight. It's gonna be a real fight. Um. And
Speaker 1: I don't see why we would protect an airport like
Speaker 1: that and not think about how we protect our kids
Speaker 1: in a similar fashion. It's depressing this, I mean that
Speaker 1: is it's a good point, and DeMarcus talked about that too,
Speaker 1: of like better security at schools and things like that,
Speaker 1: and it's a good point. But it does bum me
Speaker 1: out that that is necessary. Like that's I mean, because
Speaker 1: that is a more realistic path to stopping this than
Speaker 1: the other. The other I mean, like, but that's how
Speaker 1: how deeply ingrained this thing is. And I don't know
Speaker 1: that that's a I tweeted it the other day when
Speaker 1: this happened. I've given up on trying for political answer
Speaker 1: to gun violence in this country. It's I don't know
Speaker 1: how to get there because they're just you ain't changing
Speaker 1: anybody's opinion on it, so it just kind of is
Speaker 1: what it is. But but that doesn't mean I'm giving
Speaker 1: up on the idea of protecting kids, because that is
Speaker 1: a problem that needs to be solved. Recallessive of everything else,
Speaker 1: you better figure out a way to protect these kids
Speaker 1: in these schools. Yeah, all right, let's uh this has
Speaker 1: been there's really no transition from yeah, punt return, you can't.
Speaker 1: And I will say this too. I know they're probably
Speaker 1: I'm guessing there are probably some people out there listening
Speaker 1: right now saying I did not tune in for this.
Speaker 1: But there are some topics that and we try very
Speaker 1: hard to stick to, you know, talking about football on
Speaker 1: this show, although that's not our lives. When we were
Speaker 1: in the office, we're talking about all kinds of stuff
Speaker 1: because we're humans. But I think there are some topics
Speaker 1: that kind of transcend whatever's happening on the football field,
Speaker 1: and this is one of those. And I just felt
Speaker 1: like it was necessary for us to have this conversation.
Speaker 1: Our job is escapism, and I value that, like I
Speaker 1: value helping people sort of get away from their lives,
Speaker 1: you know, like it's I we do a service for people,
Speaker 1: but not everything is meant to be gotten away from.
Speaker 1: Like sometimes you've got to take a hard look at things,
Speaker 1: and the team, the team's talking about it, I mean,
Speaker 1: like everybody should be talking about it, regardless of how
Speaker 1: much it sucks. So because honestly, can we can make
Speaker 1: you know, this is one exception once a year for something. Yeah,
Speaker 1: because you know, a lot of times and we've seen
Speaker 1: this in the past few years. I mean, these these players,
Speaker 1: these announcers, these you know, they have a voice, they
Speaker 1: have a platform, and and it's their job to use it.
Speaker 1: Now you can you can make that case all the time. Well,
Speaker 1: it's not my job to be a role model or whatever.
Speaker 1: I know Barkley had said that long time ago, but
Speaker 1: but it's they have the platform, and the platform is
Speaker 1: for other things, but sometimes, you know, I think it's
Speaker 1: important to use it in a case like this, Um,
Speaker 1: you know, especially you know, I hope his team doesn't
Speaker 1: win another game this year. But you know what, Steve
Speaker 1: Kurf like, I applaud him for attacking you know, the
Speaker 1: people that he thought should be attacked, and he had
Speaker 1: his research and he had his facts right, you know. Um,
Speaker 1: I hope he does it again tonight because his team
Speaker 1: didn't play well and all that. And again I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to light on it. I was very impressed with
Speaker 1: what he did and I appreciated him doing that. And
Speaker 1: what some people don't know is this, his father died
Speaker 1: from gun violence. His father was an ambassador. I think
Speaker 1: and was killed in another country when they stormed the embassy,
Speaker 1: and so he has been personally affected by situations like this,
Speaker 1: and so certainly thinking about that where his dad probably
Speaker 1: knew in taking that job there was a chance for violence,
Speaker 1: there was a chance he was going to be put
Speaker 1: in a situation where he might have to give his life.
Speaker 1: That shouldn't have to be for our kids, Like that's
Speaker 1: where the line has drawn. Our kids, like you said, Nick,
Speaker 1: should be able to walk into their schools and feel
Speaker 1: as safe as they do when they walk to their homes.
Speaker 1: There should be no difference. They should walk in that
Speaker 1: school and feel like, man, I'm here to learn. I
Speaker 1: shouldn't have to worry about those other things. Yet it's
Speaker 1: sad that, just like you you mentioned the tornadoes, we
Speaker 1: did tornado drills when I was a kid. You know,
Speaker 1: our kids are now living in a world where they
Speaker 1: have to go to school and they have to learn
Speaker 1: about active shooter or training. We did training, Yeah, we
Speaker 1: did tree month ago, but we're adults. I don't want
Speaker 1: I hate the world. I hate the idea that my
Speaker 1: child has to train for an active shooter in their school.
Speaker 1: That to me, that means we're doing something wrong. If
Speaker 1: that is a reality enough for our kids have to
Speaker 1: train for it, we're doing something wrong as a society.
Speaker 1: Because if you can't protect your kids, what are you doing?
Speaker 1: Like I said before, there are lots of priorities. If
Speaker 1: you can't protect the kids of your of your society,
Speaker 1: you're doing something completely wrong. You know, you're missing the
Speaker 1: point well said. You don't want them worrying about it
Speaker 1: every day. You don't want of them thinking, you know, man,
Speaker 1: could this really happen? You know you don't. That's why,
Speaker 1: And I mean one percent right, but even I mean,
Speaker 1: it's just the world we live in. Man. I went
Speaker 1: to I went to a movie a couple weeks ago.
Speaker 1: That's in my head every time I go to a movie,
Speaker 1: every single time. And it wasn't even like Opening Night
Speaker 1: or anything. I was just it was like Saturday night.
Speaker 1: I went to see something and had already been out
Speaker 1: for a while. Because that's I like to go to
Speaker 1: unpopular movies so I can look at my phone during
Speaker 1: the movie because like if nobody yeah, wait, so you
Speaker 1: can look at your phone and that no, because the
Speaker 1: movie is in the theater, Like I'm like, I want
Speaker 1: to go see this movie but I don't want somebody
Speaker 1: telling me to put my phone away. So I wait,
Speaker 1: like a month and a movie you want to see
Speaker 1: through me, like a movie that isn't that good? No watch,
Speaker 1: I'm like, I want to watch this movie, but I
Speaker 1: don't want somebody yelling at me if I'm checking my
Speaker 1: text to see if Nick's talking to me or something,
Speaker 1: you know that type of thing. Some news is breaking,
Speaker 1: but even or you know, maybe I just want to
Speaker 1: look at Twitter whatever. Yeah, uh even still like the
Speaker 1: whole are there people that will call you out on
Speaker 1: that if you're in like a crowded theater, Yeah, and
Speaker 1: they should like that's rude. But I'm always on my
Speaker 1: phone Tomorrow me too, Like I'm definitely yeah, I've already
Speaker 1: bought the tickets. But my kids like they don't want
Speaker 1: to go see it. But I'm like, I go see
Speaker 1: all your movies all the time. So this is one
Speaker 1: where Dad's gonna be like, I'm gonna pull right. We've
Speaker 1: we've had that conversation too. I'm just like, if you
Speaker 1: want to go with me, you can go with me,
Speaker 1: but you better not be elbowing me halfway through, like
Speaker 1: you know, no restroom, Brady need more popcorn or let's go. Oh,
Speaker 1: you do what you gotta do. But as much as
Speaker 1: you love that movie, I would go by myself. I
Speaker 1: would be like, I need to dad, Dad needs these
Speaker 1: two and a half hours, Like I can, you know,
Speaker 1: I should just say that to Father's Day weekend when
Speaker 1: you can just kind of break away and Nick will
Speaker 1: probably go see it like three times, honestly. I mean
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm a definitely gonna see it. I'm all in,
Speaker 1: I don't care. No, you're probably the first. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'll wait till it comes out on streaming. No, I
Speaker 1: cannot wait. And I don't used to go to movies
Speaker 1: other than taking my kids to see their movies. But
Speaker 1: this is what I want to This is one. I mean,
Speaker 1: I know the first line of that movie and the
Speaker 1: last line of the movie. I mean these random lines,
Speaker 1: it's the top gun. I mean, I've seen it that
Speaker 1: many times where I know exactly what they are, so,
Speaker 1: I mean I've seen it enough. I'm ready. What's the
Speaker 1: first line, morning, Scott? You're right? And the last line
Speaker 1: is I don't know, but it's looking good so far.
Speaker 1: That's that's those I mean you're talking, Nick, remembers the score. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why would that surprise me? Yeah? Getting and what what?
Speaker 1: Where is that movie from nineteen eighty six? Right in
Speaker 1: the wheelhouse? Right in the wheelhouse. It's the greatest period
Speaker 1: of your life. All right. We appreciate you guys join us.
Speaker 1: We also appreciate you guys indulging us. We had to
Speaker 1: have that conversation. We thought it was necessary. So if
Speaker 1: you didn't like it, then feel free to fast forward.
Speaker 1: But if you didn't didn't have I'm I'm assuming a
Speaker 1: lot of you guys out there having these similar conversations.
Speaker 1: Let's make it something that our entire society is thinking
Speaker 1: and talking about because we need to find a solution
Speaker 1: to this. All right, So we'll see you guys next week.
Speaker 1: Till then for Nick Eaton Day Film and I'm Derek Eagleton.
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