1 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: You are entering the freedom hunt. The walls are closing in. 2 00:00:15,880 --> 00:00:19,240 Speaker 1: This time Trump is finished. This is his Watergate moment. 3 00:00:19,360 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: This time he's gone too far. Just kidding. Lives are 4 00:00:22,680 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 1: losing their minds. None of that is true. But there's 5 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,080 Speaker 1: another impeachment hearing today. We'll get to that coming up. 6 00:00:27,800 --> 00:00:31,480 Speaker 1: This is the Buck Sexton Show, where the mission or 7 00:00:31,520 --> 00:00:35,680 Speaker 1: mission is to decode what really matters with actionable intelligence. 8 00:00:37,840 --> 00:00:41,400 Speaker 1: Make no mistake America, You're a great American. Again the 9 00:00:41,600 --> 00:00:50,600 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton Show begins. He's a great guy. Now, Welcome 10 00:00:50,640 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 1: to the Buck Sexton Show, everybody. Last night I was 11 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 1: taking a break from working on the book that I'm 12 00:00:59,640 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: I'm tentatively calling Crushed the Commies, but I don't think 13 00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:04,480 Speaker 1: that's actually going to be the title. But you'll find 14 00:01:04,480 --> 00:01:07,160 Speaker 1: out the title eventually. It's coming out. I got a 15 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:10,120 Speaker 1: draft to drafts, gotta be in full draft before Christmas. 16 00:01:11,720 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: I was writing, taking a moment to think about life 17 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:16,039 Speaker 1: in the world. I turn on the TV. I don't know, 18 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:20,560 Speaker 1: maybe it was seven o'clock, eight o'clock at night and 19 00:01:21,040 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: seven o'clock at night, I guess it was. And this 20 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: hearing had been going on still for what was it 21 00:01:25,760 --> 00:01:30,559 Speaker 1: eleven plus hours sitting there. I was like, oh, who 22 00:01:30,600 --> 00:01:32,920 Speaker 1: thought that this was a good idea? I mean, this 23 00:01:33,000 --> 00:01:37,919 Speaker 1: is absurd, asking a million questions about an unimportant event 24 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:42,520 Speaker 1: that didn't even happen, that nobody should care about. And 25 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: liberals have somehow convinced themselves this is where Trump's supporters 26 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: are going to flee him. This is where independence will 27 00:01:50,280 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 1: come over to their side, and maybe even Republican senators 28 00:01:53,120 --> 00:01:57,080 Speaker 1: will vote to remove him from office, these people who 29 00:01:57,120 --> 00:02:01,840 Speaker 1: have completely lost their minds. Was there? Did you order 30 00:02:01,920 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: the quid pro quo? Remember that with Colonel Nathan R. Jessup, 31 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:13,760 Speaker 1: United States Marine Corps, Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Remember that guy, 32 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 1: the whole moment where he's asked, did you order the code? Read? 33 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 1: And that's the build up in the whole movies that 34 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:25,080 Speaker 1: it's a very watchable movie, even though it's really not 35 00:02:25,200 --> 00:02:27,680 Speaker 1: that interesting if you think about the storyline. But anyway, 36 00:02:27,720 --> 00:02:31,560 Speaker 1: it's okay, I've watched it many times. Did you order 37 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: the quid pro quote? That is the question that I 38 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: suppose we're dealing with now. Even though before we get 39 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:41,239 Speaker 1: into the thick of this, before we get down into 40 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:43,639 Speaker 1: the weeds, let's keep in mind. What have I been 41 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: telling you all along. I don't care if there was 42 00:02:46,600 --> 00:02:53,120 Speaker 1: a quid pro quo investigating the twenty sixteen election Ukraine, Shenanigans, 43 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:57,360 Speaker 1: Biden and Bresma, is all legitimate for the president to request. 44 00:02:57,440 --> 00:03:01,120 Speaker 1: I do not care. I don't know how. There is 45 00:03:01,160 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: no statutory infringement here. If they don't like how the 46 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:10,920 Speaker 1: President of the United States uses his powers and his 47 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,520 Speaker 1: constitutional authority, that's what elections are for. That's not what 48 00:03:14,600 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 1: impeachment is for. There is no abuse here. Just because 49 00:03:17,760 --> 00:03:21,440 Speaker 1: they don't like the thing that he asked about. That's 50 00:03:21,480 --> 00:03:28,239 Speaker 1: not an abuse, right. But here we are being told 51 00:03:28,320 --> 00:03:32,280 Speaker 1: that this is the moment that it all turns around. 52 00:03:32,400 --> 00:03:35,400 Speaker 1: This is the incident that we look at and we 53 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: think to ourselves, Oh my gosh, I simply can't handle 54 00:03:40,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: supporting this president anymore because of what I think. Maybe 55 00:03:45,080 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: an ambassador said to another ambassador who heard from a 56 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:50,560 Speaker 1: guy who worked at the NSC, who talked to his brother, 57 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,960 Speaker 1: who talked to a lawyer who talked to the whistleblower 58 00:03:54,280 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 1: that Trump wanted an investigation of Barisma and Hunter Biden. 59 00:03:57,960 --> 00:04:03,120 Speaker 1: Oh no, so what I see I see here? And 60 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,200 Speaker 1: I ask from the beginning of You know, we can 61 00:04:05,400 --> 00:04:07,600 Speaker 1: argue about whether there was a quid pro quot and 62 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 1: how it's even possible to be upset over a quid 63 00:04:10,960 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 1: pro quo when nothing happened. The aid was not was 64 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 1: not taken away from Ukraine, they got the money, and 65 00:04:22,160 --> 00:04:27,080 Speaker 1: there was no investigation started of the bidens. So what 66 00:04:27,120 --> 00:04:29,839 Speaker 1: are we talking about even with but that that goes deeper, 67 00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:33,599 Speaker 1: that really plays the game from their side of the field, 68 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 1: and I don't particularly want to do that. Notice how 69 00:04:36,600 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: they've gone back to quid pro quot because bribery didn't work. 70 00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:43,240 Speaker 1: That was what they were trying, bribery, and before that 71 00:04:43,320 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 1: it was an abuse of power, and before that it 72 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:52,400 Speaker 1: was a campaign finance violation, and after that it was 73 00:04:55,480 --> 00:04:58,440 Speaker 1: a violation of the Administrative Procedures Act according to the 74 00:04:58,520 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 1: Ninth Circuit of Appeals. I don't know changing it every day. 75 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:05,400 Speaker 1: If you have a real case to make against somebody, 76 00:05:05,600 --> 00:05:09,760 Speaker 1: you don't change the charge every day. Well, today this 77 00:05:09,839 --> 00:05:11,880 Speaker 1: is pulling better, so we'll just say this thing. Tomorrow 78 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 1: that one might be pulling better, so we'll say that thing. 79 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,320 Speaker 1: You have more testimony today, Ambassador Sonlon. I was watching 80 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 1: it this morning. The guy actually kind of reminds me 81 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:28,440 Speaker 1: of the insurance salesman from Groundhog Day, Ned Ryerson. Oh hey, buddy, 82 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:32,240 Speaker 1: he bought whole life blah beady blah health insurance from me, 83 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 1: remember from Groundhog Day? Or Bill Murray hugs the guy 84 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:39,560 Speaker 1: ned Ryerson. Anyway, it's Almond just kind of reminds me 85 00:05:39,600 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 1: of that actor. Very good comedic actor, by the way. 86 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: That guy was fantastic in that role. So all right, 87 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 1: we got this solon, Let's dig in this together, because folks, 88 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,680 Speaker 1: and this is it's wall to wall. The journals are 89 00:05:49,720 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: all fired up about this. They think this really matters 90 00:05:53,680 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: so much they really want to talk about it. It's okay, 91 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:57,760 Speaker 1: So I think it's going to go on for like 92 00:05:57,760 --> 00:06:01,320 Speaker 1: another twelve hours today, I mean, was endless yesterday, and 93 00:06:01,360 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: then we'll get into some other components of this narrative 94 00:06:03,960 --> 00:06:06,920 Speaker 1: also some other things talking about there's a Democratic debate tonight. 95 00:06:06,960 --> 00:06:09,720 Speaker 1: I don't know if anyone wow, I don't know if 96 00:06:09,760 --> 00:06:14,000 Speaker 1: anybody really cares, But there's a Democrat debate tonight. Mayor 97 00:06:14,040 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 1: Pete is surging. Maybe Mayor Pete is the Democrat savior 98 00:06:17,200 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: that they have been waiting for, at least in terms 99 00:06:19,480 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: of their primary campaign. May Or Pete's way up in 100 00:06:21,440 --> 00:06:24,560 Speaker 1: New Hampshire, way up in highways. I'm just putting it. 101 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,680 Speaker 1: I've been telling you along, it's not gonna be Biden, 102 00:06:27,120 --> 00:06:28,719 Speaker 1: just like I've been telling you along, doesn't matter if 103 00:06:28,720 --> 00:06:32,440 Speaker 1: there's a quid pro quo, stick with the buckster, I don't. 104 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,560 Speaker 1: We don't have to do a lot of corrections here 105 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: on this show. Oh I was way Sam tonight. I 106 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:43,120 Speaker 1: was way off. So Sondlin, let's get to what he 107 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: has to say. This is all about whether the storyline 108 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: today they want you to take away from this. I'm 109 00:06:49,040 --> 00:06:51,200 Speaker 1: gonna distill down for you, and this is, I hope 110 00:06:51,200 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: why one of the reasons why I listened to this show. 111 00:06:53,000 --> 00:06:55,240 Speaker 1: I will distill down for you everything that is said 112 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 1: over you know that has that has been said today 113 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,440 Speaker 1: and was said yesterday, over the course of Lord knows 114 00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:06,000 Speaker 1: how many hours of testimony into the very simple narratives. 115 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,600 Speaker 1: The Democrats are then going to try to force free, 116 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,520 Speaker 1: try to ram down the throats of the American public 117 00:07:12,440 --> 00:07:15,560 Speaker 1: to bring about the outcome of at least a change 118 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: in public opinion that will politically disadvantage Trump going into 119 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 1: reelection and maybe in their while this dreams perhaps get 120 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,080 Speaker 1: some Republicans in the Senate to start to go along 121 00:07:26,120 --> 00:07:28,280 Speaker 1: with the possibility of removal, but I don't think. I mean, 122 00:07:28,280 --> 00:07:33,280 Speaker 1: that's just it's just not going to happen. I think 123 00:07:33,320 --> 00:07:35,480 Speaker 1: the Democrats have never really even thought about what the 124 00:07:35,520 --> 00:07:39,120 Speaker 1: implications would be if they removed Trump in that manner, 125 00:07:39,640 --> 00:07:44,200 Speaker 1: after the leveraging and the manipulation of the deep state, 126 00:07:44,240 --> 00:07:46,440 Speaker 1: and all the dishonesty not just from the media, but 127 00:07:46,560 --> 00:07:51,560 Speaker 1: from very senior Obama appointees trying to get an investigation 128 00:07:51,760 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 1: and successfully getting investigation of the president going based on lies, 129 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:59,280 Speaker 1: based on the abuse of power that was seen there. 130 00:07:59,600 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 1: If they managed to remove Trump from office, I would 131 00:08:04,680 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: lose all faith in the American political system, and a 132 00:08:07,800 --> 00:08:10,400 Speaker 1: lot of us who really do believe in this country 133 00:08:10,400 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: in the constitution, would very quickly understand this place to 134 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 1: be under direct threat, that the institutions that we have 135 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:21,920 Speaker 1: grown up with and that have we have defended, in 136 00:08:21,960 --> 00:08:24,480 Speaker 1: some cases, for many of you defended with your lives 137 00:08:24,480 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: by serving the armed forces, that they are corrupted and 138 00:08:29,160 --> 00:08:34,200 Speaker 1: perhaps corrupted beyond repair. Democrats are so shrill, they shriek 139 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,600 Speaker 1: so loudly with their hatred of Trump They don't seem 140 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 1: to understand what the implications would be of getting what 141 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,960 Speaker 1: they want if they really remove this president based on 142 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:49,839 Speaker 1: this based on a phone call that a lot of 143 00:08:49,880 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: people heard, and we'll get into this didn't think was 144 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 1: a big deal, and based on a policy dispute that 145 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 1: didn't lead to anything. And I mean, what they really 146 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 1: believe that will just go that that things will return 147 00:09:01,600 --> 00:09:04,080 Speaker 1: to normal after that. I think that's one of the 148 00:09:04,080 --> 00:09:07,200 Speaker 1: fundamental fallacies that the left indulges for itself, is that 149 00:09:07,240 --> 00:09:10,959 Speaker 1: they that they'll be able to pretend this whole Trump 150 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:12,840 Speaker 1: thing never happened. And we're going to go back to 151 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:16,840 Speaker 1: a point where the elite media, the Libs, the Democrats 152 00:09:16,840 --> 00:09:18,440 Speaker 1: could just sort of pat people on the heads and 153 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 1: say this is the way this system is, this is 154 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,599 Speaker 1: the way the system in our government works. And a 155 00:09:23,600 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 1: lot of Republicans, of course going along with them, don't. 156 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:28,839 Speaker 1: There's a lot of machine GOP that needs to be 157 00:09:28,960 --> 00:09:37,280 Speaker 1: swept away. But then that brings me to the storyline today. 158 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: The one thing they're trying to get everybody to believe 159 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:44,240 Speaker 1: or to hear so many times that it will influence 160 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: and affect their judgment, and that will change minds about 161 00:09:47,480 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 1: the President of the United States. Did everybody know Mulvaney 162 00:09:52,760 --> 00:09:56,679 Speaker 1: and Pompeo and well, at least everybody in the Trump's 163 00:09:56,679 --> 00:09:59,160 Speaker 1: inner circle and Trump's inner circle, because we had a 164 00:09:59,160 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: lot of testimony as from senior NFC guys. I will 165 00:10:01,559 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 1: say it's Vulker and this other guy, Morrison. They're square 166 00:10:04,400 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: away dudes. They kind of remind me of some of 167 00:10:07,760 --> 00:10:10,880 Speaker 1: the individuals that I worked with at the CIA in 168 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:13,840 Speaker 1: terms of their demeanor, in terms of their approach to 169 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:18,839 Speaker 1: their jobs, in that they were really spot on, They 170 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:22,400 Speaker 1: really know their brief They I thought they were impressive 171 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:25,480 Speaker 1: under that pressure, and you weren't really aware of what 172 00:10:25,520 --> 00:10:28,800 Speaker 1: their politics were. I even though I forget the name, 173 00:10:28,800 --> 00:10:31,560 Speaker 1: but the aide depends yesterday. I don't think that she 174 00:10:31,640 --> 00:10:35,160 Speaker 1: showed up as a We know who the partisans are, right, 175 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:37,480 Speaker 1: we know who the partisans are in this whole process. 176 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:42,600 Speaker 1: I mean Vinman and I love seeing yesterday. You know 177 00:10:42,600 --> 00:10:46,160 Speaker 1: you had on Twitter Rob O'Neill, who's a Fox contributor 178 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 1: guy I know a bit and has has never been 179 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 1: shy on the Twitter, just saying all you need to 180 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:53,720 Speaker 1: know about Vinman. You found out when he insisted on 181 00:10:53,760 --> 00:10:59,480 Speaker 1: being called lieutenant colonel. People, people who serve, they don't 182 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 1: flex like that because they don't have to unless they're 183 00:11:02,200 --> 00:11:04,280 Speaker 1: trying to prove something, trying to do something a little weird. 184 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:07,960 Speaker 1: So I thought that was that was a noteworthy incident. 185 00:11:08,000 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: But we know who the partisans are, and we know 186 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:11,360 Speaker 1: who the people are heard just showing up and telling 187 00:11:11,360 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 1: what they know about this. And the fact that Adam 188 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 1: Schiff provides presides over all of this tells you really 189 00:11:17,960 --> 00:11:20,240 Speaker 1: all you have to know about the legitimacy and the 190 00:11:20,400 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: decency and the fairness of the proceeding, which is that 191 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: there is none. But okay, you're supposed to believe that 192 00:11:28,320 --> 00:11:33,400 Speaker 1: Mulvaney knew that Pompeio knew that everybody knew that the 193 00:11:33,440 --> 00:11:37,719 Speaker 1: President had drawn a line in the sand about an 194 00:11:37,720 --> 00:11:41,320 Speaker 1: investigate getting dirt on his political opponents. That's what they 195 00:11:41,360 --> 00:11:43,760 Speaker 1: we say, which I would note is a distortion, an 196 00:11:43,760 --> 00:11:46,680 Speaker 1: intentional distortion of what has even said in the phone call. 197 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:50,400 Speaker 1: On the phone call in question, can you find out 198 00:11:50,440 --> 00:11:53,440 Speaker 1: about what happened here? I've heard bad things. Is not 199 00:11:53,559 --> 00:11:58,320 Speaker 1: the same as manufacture lies about my opponents so that 200 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:00,640 Speaker 1: I can feed them to the press. That is what 201 00:12:00,679 --> 00:12:03,680 Speaker 1: the Democrats did, by the way, with the dossier paid 202 00:12:03,720 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: for by the DNC, using foreign sources, running into the 203 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:09,720 Speaker 1: fires accord, corrupting the top of the DOG and the 204 00:12:09,760 --> 00:12:12,480 Speaker 1: FBI under Obama. So they already know all about that, 205 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:16,800 Speaker 1: They know how to do that. That's not what happened here. 206 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: They keep saying, get dirt on your political opponent. Is 207 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: there dirt? Are they are? They taking it as already 208 00:12:25,920 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: established that there must be. So the only reason you'd 209 00:12:29,040 --> 00:12:30,559 Speaker 1: ask for dirt is if there is dirt. So I 210 00:12:30,600 --> 00:12:33,920 Speaker 1: guess the Biden situation Ukraine is perhaps shadier than they've 211 00:12:33,920 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: been willing to admit up to this point. That's an interesting, 212 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,360 Speaker 1: an interesting admission that I don't think they intended. They 213 00:12:44,440 --> 00:12:46,480 Speaker 1: keep saying this though, I'll get dirt on the opponent, 214 00:12:46,520 --> 00:12:49,880 Speaker 1: there's nothing wrong and I will not veer from this. 215 00:12:50,520 --> 00:12:53,280 Speaker 1: Nothing will change my mind about this, because it's so 216 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,920 Speaker 1: obvious when you think about it. There's nothing wrong with 217 00:12:55,960 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 1: requesting a look from a foreign counterpart at what happened 218 00:13:00,280 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 1: in the twenty sixteen election. There are active DJ investigations 219 00:13:03,600 --> 00:13:08,120 Speaker 1: right now about that matter. The Democrats all they could 220 00:13:08,120 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 1: talk about for over two years was that, but they 221 00:13:12,080 --> 00:13:14,080 Speaker 1: had they were in control of that and they knew it. 222 00:13:14,080 --> 00:13:17,880 Speaker 1: They had Weissman, their little attack guy going after Trump 223 00:13:17,920 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 1: with all those little Democrats. So they were fine with 224 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:22,200 Speaker 1: investigations then. But now the shoe is on the other foot. 225 00:13:22,280 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: Now the other side maybe gets to take a look 226 00:13:24,400 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 1: under the hood and see what's going on. H okay, 227 00:13:31,360 --> 00:13:33,200 Speaker 1: But we're told that there was a quid pro quo, 228 00:13:33,559 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: that the president's top advisors all knew about this, and 229 00:13:38,160 --> 00:13:43,319 Speaker 1: that is Sonlin's position, Except there's one problem with that. 230 00:13:43,640 --> 00:13:45,439 Speaker 1: As he is saying this, don't looks Sonlin is a 231 00:13:46,760 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: You know, this is another example. Maybe we shouldn't a 232 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:52,160 Speaker 1: point ambassadors based on how much money they're raised for presidents. 233 00:13:52,200 --> 00:13:54,040 Speaker 1: But that is what ends up happening. This guy who 234 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 1: was ambassador to EU, he's a hotelier and you know, 235 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 1: he is a Trump pointe who raised money for Trump. 236 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: So Trump doesn't appoint the best people. Never gonna change 237 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: my mind on that. Trump Trump does not have the 238 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,720 Speaker 1: best people. I don't hear him say that anymore because 239 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: he doesn't. He does not have good instincts about human beings. 240 00:14:13,400 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: It's just real good instincts about politics, good instincts about 241 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:19,480 Speaker 1: fighting back against the opposition. But when it comes to 242 00:14:19,480 --> 00:14:22,080 Speaker 1: picking the best people, I mean, I'm sitting here in 243 00:14:22,160 --> 00:14:26,960 Speaker 1: my White House Press Secretary Trumpster, you're missing out. But 244 00:14:28,280 --> 00:14:32,000 Speaker 1: here's the problem with Sonlin's point of view on all this. Please, producer, Mark, 245 00:14:32,040 --> 00:14:35,640 Speaker 1: would you play twenty six from this morning's hearing. Do 246 00:14:35,640 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: you have any reason to doubt Ambassador Taylor's testimony, which 247 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:44,880 Speaker 1: he said was based on his meticulous contemporaneous notes. President 248 00:14:44,920 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 1: Trump never told me directly that the AID was conditioned 249 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:53,080 Speaker 1: on the meetings. The only thing we got directly from 250 00:14:53,200 --> 00:14:57,119 Speaker 1: Juliani was that the barissima in two thousand and sixteen 251 00:14:57,800 --> 00:15:01,800 Speaker 1: elections were conditioned on the White House meeting. The AID 252 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: was my own personal you know guests, based again on 253 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,200 Speaker 1: your analogy two plus two equals for so you didn't 254 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: talk to President Trump. When Ambassador Taylor says that that's 255 00:15:13,960 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 1: what you told him, is that your testimony here? My 256 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,360 Speaker 1: testimony is I never heard from President Trump that aid 257 00:15:20,520 --> 00:15:25,000 Speaker 1: was conditioned on an announcement of elections. So you never 258 00:15:25,040 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: heard those specific words, correct, right, but never heard those words. 259 00:15:30,200 --> 00:15:34,640 Speaker 1: So the president draws, we are to believe just follows 260 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 1: through just applot logic. Forget about it Akham's razor, my man, 261 00:15:37,520 --> 00:15:41,160 Speaker 1: just go to it this way, the President draws this 262 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:45,040 Speaker 1: line in the sand, you must do these investigations. You must. 263 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: But nobody has ever told this in a meaningful and 264 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,520 Speaker 1: straightforward way. Nobody his policy chain of command seems to 265 00:15:54,560 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: remember the President saying that this must happen or else. 266 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: Maybe he said he wanted them investigate me. It was important. Maybe, 267 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,280 Speaker 1: but you know the whole thing, here's the quid pro quo. 268 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:07,840 Speaker 1: Nobody remembers being told us. And somehow the investigations didn't happen, 269 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:11,680 Speaker 1: and there were no consequences from the investigations not happening. 270 00:16:13,080 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: So if this was a quid pro quote, it was 271 00:16:14,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 1: the worst one anyone has ever come up within history. 272 00:16:18,720 --> 00:16:21,240 Speaker 1: And this is why you can't believe the narrative that 273 00:16:21,280 --> 00:16:23,520 Speaker 1: they're trying to feed you on this one. You can't 274 00:16:23,560 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: believe the story they're telling you. Don't be a quid 275 00:16:28,040 --> 00:16:31,200 Speaker 1: pro quot, Schmo. Don't listen to the fake news on this. 276 00:16:31,320 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: The Democrats fake outrage that President Trump used his own 277 00:16:36,280 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: channel to communicate with Ukraine. Or remind my friends on 278 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 1: the other side of the aisle that our first president 279 00:16:43,560 --> 00:16:48,520 Speaker 1: George Washington directed his own diplomatic channels to secure a 280 00:16:48,600 --> 00:16:53,560 Speaker 1: treaty with Great Britain. If my Democratic colleagues were around 281 00:16:53,560 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 1: in seventeen ninety four, they'd probably want to impeach him too. Yep, 282 00:17:00,040 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: probably would. This is something that has left out of 283 00:17:03,760 --> 00:17:08,439 Speaker 1: the feverish media coverage. Oh my gosh, Trump and the 284 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:13,800 Speaker 1: abuse of power and all over. Really, Oliver sat Biden, 285 00:17:13,840 --> 00:17:16,080 Speaker 1: they're going to do this guy. I think he's seventy 286 00:17:16,200 --> 00:17:20,040 Speaker 1: eight years old today, by the way, and not going 287 00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:26,320 Speaker 1: to be there their primary victor. But the president can 288 00:17:26,359 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: appoint people to act on his behalf and foreign policy. 289 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:32,480 Speaker 1: Presidents have done this, as Devin Nun has pointed out. 290 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:35,439 Speaker 1: But you don't hear that. There's always this talk of 291 00:17:35,480 --> 00:17:40,320 Speaker 1: the unofficial channels. Rudy Giuliani is skulking around in corners 292 00:17:40,320 --> 00:17:44,360 Speaker 1: and just you knowing, wringing his hands and just how 293 00:17:44,359 --> 00:17:48,480 Speaker 1: can I, how can I undermine policy? He's a policy 294 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:53,040 Speaker 1: emissary of the President of the United States. The President's 295 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 1: allowed to do that. Presidents allowed to conduct secret diplomacy, 296 00:17:57,960 --> 00:18:00,399 Speaker 1: is allowed to have people doing diplomacy in his behalf 297 00:18:00,400 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: present is allowed to do this. Folks. Media doesn't want 298 00:18:02,840 --> 00:18:06,680 Speaker 1: to tell you that ah, but as predictable as night 299 00:18:07,240 --> 00:18:15,840 Speaker 1: follows day the better On CNN Witness implicates Trump, Oh 300 00:18:15,920 --> 00:18:22,280 Speaker 1: my gosh, implicates him in what ask that question? What 301 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,239 Speaker 1: is the crime? What is there an anti quid pro 302 00:18:26,359 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: quos statute? Because all foreign policy is based on quid 303 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: pro quos all the time. Their entire case hinges on 304 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:42,000 Speaker 1: whether or not the public understands the request. It's not 305 00:18:42,320 --> 00:18:46,880 Speaker 1: it wasn't a demand, it wasn't enforced. The request for 306 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: a look from a foreign counterpart into issues of concern 307 00:18:52,359 --> 00:18:56,720 Speaker 1: to this country, including twenty sixteen and whether there was 308 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:01,080 Speaker 1: corruption going on in Ukraine and whether that corruption directly 309 00:19:01,160 --> 00:19:07,040 Speaker 1: touched on the Biden relationship in Ukraine. Is that a 310 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:12,119 Speaker 1: legitimate request or not. I'm here to tell you it 311 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:15,560 Speaker 1: is a legitimate request. Do not listen to what they 312 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:18,440 Speaker 1: are trying to feed you. Oh my gosh, getting dirt 313 00:19:18,480 --> 00:19:21,480 Speaker 1: on his opponent? Is that what he said? Did Trump say, Hey, 314 00:19:21,480 --> 00:19:24,159 Speaker 1: can you guys just give me give me something? Just 315 00:19:24,320 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: makes have one of your guys rite up a memo 316 00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:29,439 Speaker 1: about how Hunter Biden took a duffel bag full of 317 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,560 Speaker 1: cash under the table to tell his dad not the 318 00:19:32,080 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: you know, to get the prosecutor fired or whatever it was. Oh, 319 00:19:36,160 --> 00:19:37,680 Speaker 1: he said, I've heard bad things. Can you look it? 320 00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:39,399 Speaker 1: Can you look into this and get us some answers 321 00:19:39,440 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: on the situation now in a crowd strike, the Ukrainian 322 00:19:45,720 --> 00:19:50,879 Speaker 1: server situation that is perhaps not as strong a case, 323 00:19:51,000 --> 00:19:57,159 Speaker 1: that's not territory that is quite as valid for this, 324 00:19:57,640 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: But the twenty sixteen election in Ukraine over all is 325 00:20:00,880 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: very valid, my friends. And I will get into why 326 00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,280 Speaker 1: I'm gonna pose this question to you, and I will 327 00:20:07,320 --> 00:20:11,120 Speaker 1: return to it in a moment. But and byron Yorke, 328 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: who is just he's just this understated, steady hand in 329 00:20:17,359 --> 00:20:20,000 Speaker 1: writing about this and covering this issue. Who just he 330 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 1: lets his writing, He lets his thoughts do the talking 331 00:20:23,560 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 1: for him. He's not a lot of bluster. He's not 332 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 1: running around calling people out. He's just like, what about this? 333 00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,040 Speaker 1: How about that? Anyone want to take a look at this? 334 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,800 Speaker 1: And he's very, very consistently I think, insightful on these 335 00:20:35,840 --> 00:20:39,560 Speaker 1: matters of not just impeachment, but Russia collusion and all 336 00:20:39,600 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: the rest of it. I mean, there's a whole crew 337 00:20:41,040 --> 00:20:44,320 Speaker 1: Andy McCarthy, Byron York, Molly Hemingway, I mean, these people 338 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: have been correct on this all along. Which I think 339 00:20:49,160 --> 00:20:52,320 Speaker 1: should matter, and ones CNN and MSNBC keep putting these 340 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:54,720 Speaker 1: people on TV or are like, oh my gosh, any 341 00:20:54,800 --> 00:20:59,040 Speaker 1: day now the walls are closing in on no false, 342 00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: it's not true. It wasn't happening, but it was I 343 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:07,440 Speaker 1: suppose good for ratings, good for ratings at the time. 344 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,200 Speaker 1: But I would want to take you to a piece 345 00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:16,640 Speaker 1: that Byron has written where he goes through what if 346 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 1: Trump is right about Ukraine? They just hold that thought 347 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: for him because I have to get a little more 348 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:26,200 Speaker 1: of this testimony today on what they're saying, Oh qui 349 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:30,400 Speaker 1: pro quo They're back to this now because sounds shady, 350 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,399 Speaker 1: And I do think that the White House and the 351 00:21:34,480 --> 00:21:39,639 Speaker 1: Republicans have made a rhetorical mistake by saying there was 352 00:21:39,720 --> 00:21:44,159 Speaker 1: no qui pro quote. Mick mulvaney was actually right, but 353 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: it was counter the narrative the White House was putting 354 00:21:46,600 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 1: out at the time. He was right when he said 355 00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:52,240 Speaker 1: the quit pro quos happened all the time in form 356 00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:54,320 Speaker 1: I mean the way he said it wasn't excellent. But 357 00:21:54,359 --> 00:21:58,280 Speaker 1: the truth is that Mick mulvaney was more on target 358 00:21:58,320 --> 00:22:03,080 Speaker 1: here because quit pro quos aren't something that foreign policy 359 00:22:03,200 --> 00:22:05,600 Speaker 1: doesn't just have it's a it's not a bug, it's 360 00:22:05,600 --> 00:22:07,639 Speaker 1: a feature. It is central to how you do this. 361 00:22:09,320 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 1: So if the President has a valid a valid request, 362 00:22:14,640 --> 00:22:18,399 Speaker 1: or a valid national interest, or just an valid interest 363 00:22:18,440 --> 00:22:20,960 Speaker 1: for it for the administration of the in the executive 364 00:22:20,960 --> 00:22:24,840 Speaker 1: branch of the United States government, he is allowed. There's 365 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:30,560 Speaker 1: nothing improper with him asking about that matter. There's nothing 366 00:22:30,600 --> 00:22:34,840 Speaker 1: improper with him requesting more information or even an investigation 367 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:40,359 Speaker 1: from a counterpart about that. You you must remember this 368 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: because they want you to. They want you to forget 369 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:47,360 Speaker 1: all about that aspect of this debate and just skip 370 00:22:47,440 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 1: right too. Well, if he conditioned aid for the you know, 371 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:53,679 Speaker 1: for the Ukrainians based on whether they would look into 372 00:22:53,760 --> 00:22:58,800 Speaker 1: his political rivals. Did did President Trump make Hunter Biden 373 00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 1: take fifty thousand dollars a month while daddy was running 374 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,840 Speaker 1: foreign policy in Ukraine? No? He did not. Is that 375 00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: a legitimately shady and perhaps even corrupt arrangement? Yes, it is. 376 00:23:10,119 --> 00:23:16,880 Speaker 1: Have far less credible and serious things been investigated ferociously 377 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,920 Speaker 1: by Democrats over the course of the two year Special Counsel, 378 00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,879 Speaker 1: as well as you know, everything else they throw to 379 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:25,120 Speaker 1: this president. Of course, of course, look at the way 380 00:23:25,119 --> 00:23:29,240 Speaker 1: they went after the Stormy Daniel hush money hush money payments, 381 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: which they were trying to say might have been a 382 00:23:32,880 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 1: non criminal campaign finance violation. That that's what they're gonna 383 00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:43,880 Speaker 1: go with. It's it's it's mind boggling. There is plenty 384 00:23:43,920 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: of reason to look into whether there was a corrupt 385 00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:51,080 Speaker 1: situation between the Bidens and Barisma in Ukraine. It is 386 00:23:51,119 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: just reality. Everyone can pretend like, no big deal, it's 387 00:23:55,440 --> 00:23:58,919 Speaker 1: not illegal. Well it's a big deal because it is unethical. 388 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: It was gross. That's established. What happened was gross. Hunter 389 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: Biden is an imbecile. He was getting paid fifty grand 390 00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,679 Speaker 1: a month because of who daddy was, because daddy had 391 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: a lot of power in your name. The daddy in 392 00:24:11,600 --> 00:24:14,560 Speaker 1: this case, Joe Biden, was acting on behalf of the 393 00:24:14,600 --> 00:24:18,320 Speaker 1: Obama administration, who was your president and my president at 394 00:24:18,320 --> 00:24:20,720 Speaker 1: the time. He was acting on behalf of the American people, 395 00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,919 Speaker 1: carrying that weight, carrying that power. And there was at 396 00:24:24,000 --> 00:24:26,680 Speaker 1: least the appearance of corruption. So why can't we look 397 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:28,520 Speaker 1: into this and find out if there was more than that? 398 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:34,160 Speaker 1: How could we know if there was something explicitly illegal, Yes, 399 00:24:34,240 --> 00:24:37,719 Speaker 1: a quid pro quo of corruption unless we asked our 400 00:24:37,760 --> 00:24:40,200 Speaker 1: counterparts and found out more about what was happening here. 401 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 1: They just wave all of this away. I tell you, 402 00:24:46,040 --> 00:24:49,719 Speaker 1: there's nothing to see here. Everything is fine. Joe Biden, 403 00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:53,680 Speaker 1: Hunter Biden, never have an error in judgment like that. 404 00:24:54,640 --> 00:24:57,320 Speaker 1: You know, Hunter Biden, the drug addict who got kicked 405 00:24:57,320 --> 00:24:59,960 Speaker 1: out of the Naval Reserves as a public affairs officer 406 00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: within six months of getting his commission because of who 407 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,399 Speaker 1: his dad was for failing a drug test for I 408 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:10,080 Speaker 1: believe it was crack cocaine. That guy would never have 409 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 1: an error of judgment that would implicate the Vice president 410 00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 1: of the United States. No, of course not. How stupid 411 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:26,760 Speaker 1: do they think we really are? Unfortunately quite stupid, it seems, 412 00:25:26,760 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: because at least today they believe they're winning. They're cheering, 413 00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,679 Speaker 1: they think they finally got Trump. They're finally going to 414 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:40,959 Speaker 1: hammer this whole thing until we give up and Trump 415 00:25:41,080 --> 00:25:48,760 Speaker 1: is in real trouble. Here is part of what Solomon 416 00:25:48,800 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: said this morning. Play twenty three producer Mark Everyone was 417 00:25:54,640 --> 00:25:59,720 Speaker 1: in the loop. It was no secret. Everyone was in 418 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 1: armed Via email On July nineteenth, days before the presidential call, 419 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: as I communicated to the team, I told President Zolenski 420 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:15,200 Speaker 1: in advance that assurances to run a fully transparent investigation 421 00:26:15,920 --> 00:26:19,960 Speaker 1: and turn over every stone were necessary in his call 422 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 1: with President Trump on July nineteenth, in a WhatsApp message 423 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:31,120 Speaker 1: between Ambassador Taylor, Ambassador Volker, and me, Ambassador Volker stated, 424 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: had breakfast with Rudy this morning. That's Ambassador Volker and 425 00:26:37,480 --> 00:26:41,720 Speaker 1: Rudy Giuliani teeing up call with your mac monday that 426 00:26:41,920 --> 00:26:47,000 Speaker 1: senior Advisor Andre yourmack must have helped. Most important is 427 00:26:47,080 --> 00:26:50,760 Speaker 1: for Zolensky to say that he will help investigation and 428 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: address any specific personnel issues if there are any. None 429 00:26:56,880 --> 00:26:59,040 Speaker 1: of that is illegitimate to me at all, assuming if 430 00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:01,719 Speaker 1: that's all true, which still seems a little bit hazy. 431 00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: But I'm not even arguing with the truth of it 432 00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,280 Speaker 1: as a necessary defense of Trump. I'm just saying, even 433 00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:10,960 Speaker 1: if all that is true, Yeah, Ukraine's like the most 434 00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:13,920 Speaker 1: corrupt country on planet Earth. The son of the vice 435 00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,640 Speaker 1: president is getting fifty thousand dollars a month. There are 436 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: prosecutors getting fired who are supposed to be rooting out corruption. 437 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: There's all kinds of shenanigans which I will get into 438 00:27:22,800 --> 00:27:26,040 Speaker 1: of Ukrainian government officials publicly, and this is on the 439 00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 1: record speaking out against Trump during the election, but no 440 00:27:30,920 --> 00:27:36,280 Speaker 1: investigations all of a sudden, Democrats, you know, investigations are kryptonite. 441 00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,600 Speaker 1: The Democrats are vampires, and investigations are the sunlight coming 442 00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: out catching on fire. What's wrong with finding out what 443 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,399 Speaker 1: happened here? I thought they love finding out what happened. 444 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,000 Speaker 1: We just went through a two and a half year 445 00:27:50,040 --> 00:27:54,000 Speaker 1: long special counsel debacle that in the end told us, 446 00:27:54,040 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: you know, maybe some stuff happened with the obstruction of 447 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,840 Speaker 1: the investigation, but really the investigation never needed to happen 448 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:04,399 Speaker 1: because there was no Trump Russia collusion. Oh, that investigation 449 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:10,760 Speaker 1: was totally legitimate, totally necessary. Though it is not what 450 00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:14,880 Speaker 1: a baudism to look at these issues and say, hold 451 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 1: on a second, when you have this other concern, when 452 00:28:18,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 1: there was another situation like this, did you apply the 453 00:28:22,920 --> 00:28:29,280 Speaker 1: principle equally? Are democrats applying principles and rule of law 454 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:33,520 Speaker 1: and expectations of government officials equally to both sides? If 455 00:28:33,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 1: someone says, yes, there are moron, that's where we are. Clearly. 456 00:28:40,560 --> 00:28:46,959 Speaker 1: The principle, the regulation, the interpretation, the ethical expectation is 457 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,040 Speaker 1: changing every day depending on who well, is this going 458 00:28:50,120 --> 00:28:52,080 Speaker 1: to affect the Democrats? It's going to affect a Republican. 459 00:28:52,920 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 1: Is Trump the person that's going to get in trouble 460 00:28:55,440 --> 00:28:57,120 Speaker 1: because of this? Or is somebody that we like as 461 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,440 Speaker 1: Democrats going to get in trouble because of this? And 462 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:04,960 Speaker 1: that's all the matter. Ambassador Taylor in a WhatsApp message 463 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 1: to Ambassador Sonland Taylor, as I said on the phone, 464 00:29:11,520 --> 00:29:14,120 Speaker 1: I think it's crazy to withhold security assistance for help 465 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:19,080 Speaker 1: with a political campaign, Sonland, Bill, I believe you're incorrect 466 00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,280 Speaker 1: about President Trump's intentions. The President has been clear, no 467 00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 1: quid pro quos of any kind. The President is trying 468 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: to evaluate whether Ukraine is truly going to adopt the 469 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:34,760 Speaker 1: transparency and reforms that President Zelenski promised during his campaign. 470 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,840 Speaker 1: I suggest we stop the back and forth by text. 471 00:29:37,920 --> 00:29:40,960 Speaker 1: If you still have concerns, I can recommend you give 472 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:45,000 Speaker 1: Lisa Kenna or s a call to discuss them directly. Thanks. 473 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 1: What what so? As the Ambassador Solan saying no qui, 474 00:29:52,120 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 1: the President has said no quid pro quos. If a 475 00:29:54,720 --> 00:29:58,080 Speaker 1: bunch of little confused bureaucrats running around in circles worried 476 00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 1: about you know who's in charge of of their portfolio, 477 00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:03,600 Speaker 1: and who as the directear of the president, and who's 478 00:30:03,640 --> 00:30:06,680 Speaker 1: pushing most effectively on foreign counterparts. I know how all 479 00:30:06,720 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: these like State Department people talk, you know, circle the 480 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:12,240 Speaker 1: loop and circle back and close the loop, and you 481 00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 1: know all this stuff, all this bureaucrats they speak and 482 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: all the time. If they were confused about the president's intentions, 483 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,120 Speaker 1: that's on them. And if Rudy Giuliani was running around 484 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:25,200 Speaker 1: throwing elbows and that ruffled some feathers, and maybe some 485 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:27,360 Speaker 1: people got confused about what he wanted, or maybe Rudy 486 00:30:27,400 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: went a little rogue. I like Rudy, but that's on him. Otherwise, 487 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,959 Speaker 1: I need someone to explain to me how something that 488 00:30:36,000 --> 00:30:40,560 Speaker 1: would need to be as clear for it to have 489 00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:43,960 Speaker 1: any impact as a quid pro quo, you do this 490 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,120 Speaker 1: or else. We have all these people talking about this, 491 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 1: but there was no real establishment of what was supposed 492 00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:58,959 Speaker 1: to be done, and there never wasn't or else. And 493 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: even if those things were true, I said here and 494 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:05,800 Speaker 1: I tell you fine, he's a president of the United States. 495 00:31:06,000 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 1: Keep hearing people say, well, you know, the president was 496 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:14,000 Speaker 1: going against the interagency consensus. The president wasn't wasn't conducting 497 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,840 Speaker 1: the foreign policy of the United States. No, he he 498 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: is when the President says, this is the foreign policy 499 00:31:19,120 --> 00:31:21,240 Speaker 1: of the the United States, it is the foreign policy of 500 00:31:21,240 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: the United States. That's what the Libs and the deep 501 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:27,239 Speaker 1: Staters and the mainstream media don't I believe. I just 502 00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,000 Speaker 1: asked him an open ended question, mister chairman, what do 503 00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,400 Speaker 1: you want from Ukraine? I keep hearing all these different 504 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,480 Speaker 1: ideas and theories and this and that. What do you want? 505 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,880 Speaker 1: And it was a very short, abrupt conversation. He was 506 00:31:41,000 --> 00:31:43,840 Speaker 1: not in a good mood, and he just said, I 507 00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:46,240 Speaker 1: want nothing. I want nothing, I want no quid pro quote. 508 00:31:47,000 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 1: Tell lives Lenski to do the right thing, something to 509 00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:52,560 Speaker 1: that effect. I want nothing, tells Lenski to do the 510 00:31:52,680 --> 00:31:58,320 Speaker 1: right thing. That that's what the president. You know. I 511 00:31:58,360 --> 00:32:00,720 Speaker 1: know this president is mercurial and his mind a lot 512 00:32:00,760 --> 00:32:04,240 Speaker 1: and everything else. But maybe there was just some confusion 513 00:32:04,280 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 1: about what was real here. Maybe there was some confusion 514 00:32:07,400 --> 00:32:10,960 Speaker 1: about whether the president what the president's real intentions were. 515 00:32:11,200 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: Here is one of the problems we run into Democrats. 516 00:32:14,360 --> 00:32:17,920 Speaker 1: And you see this not just in this impeachment mess, 517 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:24,840 Speaker 1: but you see it in a new legal jurisprudence that 518 00:32:25,000 --> 00:32:29,640 Speaker 1: democrats apply to this president and only to this president, 519 00:32:31,840 --> 00:32:36,840 Speaker 1: where it no longer matters if what he did is 520 00:32:36,880 --> 00:32:43,040 Speaker 1: strictly speaking, within his power or legal or constitutional. They 521 00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:46,200 Speaker 1: decide because they can see into his heart, they understand 522 00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:50,800 Speaker 1: his intentions, they know who he really is on the inside. 523 00:32:51,520 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 1: They decide that it is de facto illegitimate because Trump 524 00:32:57,080 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: is doing it. Perfect example of this would be with 525 00:33:02,960 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 1: the so called Muslim ban. Turn out, the Supreme Court said, yeah, 526 00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,120 Speaker 1: you can. You're allowed to ban people from these countries 527 00:33:10,560 --> 00:33:13,320 Speaker 1: that your president. The statute that Congress wrote that says 528 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,719 Speaker 1: you can do this, and you can just do it. 529 00:33:15,720 --> 00:33:18,120 Speaker 1: It's up to the president's discretion. They don't think this 530 00:33:18,200 --> 00:33:22,000 Speaker 1: president is allowed to have presidential discretion because they don't 531 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:27,720 Speaker 1: accept that he's really the president. That's what is also 532 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 1: playing out through this whole debate over what was going 533 00:33:30,960 --> 00:33:33,760 Speaker 1: on in Ukraine and what he said. And you see, 534 00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:38,520 Speaker 1: even if the president is legally speaking a lot which 535 00:33:38,560 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 1: he is allowed to tell a foreign counterpart, Hey, can 536 00:33:41,320 --> 00:33:44,480 Speaker 1: you look into this issue? I want answers that is 537 00:33:45,160 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: the sum total of what action occurred. Can you look 538 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,320 Speaker 1: into the following thing twenty sixteen, You know Burisma and 539 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:56,880 Speaker 1: Ukraine and the Bidens. He is completely legally entitled to 540 00:33:56,880 --> 00:34:00,960 Speaker 1: do that. There is no legal prohibition against any of this. That. 541 00:34:01,160 --> 00:34:04,160 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, it would be bad for Joe Biden if 542 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,760 Speaker 1: it turned out that they found real corruption involving his 543 00:34:07,760 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: son or something. Doesn't mean that Trump doesn't have that 544 00:34:10,719 --> 00:34:14,720 Speaker 1: authority anymore. Oh but they just take it. The left 545 00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:18,399 Speaker 1: and the Libs take it to a special place where 546 00:34:18,440 --> 00:34:22,680 Speaker 1: because Donald Trump is the one making the request, it 547 00:34:22,880 --> 00:34:28,320 Speaker 1: is inherently illegitimate because he is bad. He is evil, 548 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:32,840 Speaker 1: Orange Man, bad and evil. That's all. Everything else is 549 00:34:32,880 --> 00:34:38,239 Speaker 1: just trying to, you know, put more more adornments and 550 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:40,719 Speaker 1: babbles on the tree, so to speak. And I'm just 551 00:34:40,760 --> 00:34:44,839 Speaker 1: trying to add meat to the bone. I haven't used 552 00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:46,360 Speaker 1: the word babbles in a long time. I don't know 553 00:34:46,400 --> 00:34:49,400 Speaker 1: where that came from. All right, team, let's go deep 554 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 1: down the rabbit hole here for a second together. What 555 00:34:55,440 --> 00:34:59,319 Speaker 1: if Trump was right about Ukraine. This is an analysis 556 00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,600 Speaker 1: that Byron Or has put out from the Washington Examiner, 557 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,279 Speaker 1: and it just lays out what I have, what is 558 00:35:07,480 --> 00:35:14,040 Speaker 1: essentially an argument or at least information data points that 559 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 1: bolsters what I've been saying all along to you. Which 560 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:22,800 Speaker 1: is that looking into the Bidens and Ukraine and Barisma 561 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: is an entirely legitimate exercise. In fact, it would be 562 00:35:28,280 --> 00:35:32,480 Speaker 1: legitimate from my perspective, to have the Department of Justice 563 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,799 Speaker 1: look into those matters. Which if Trump really wanted to 564 00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:45,600 Speaker 1: just go after Biden as aggressively as possible, he could do, right, 565 00:35:45,680 --> 00:35:47,600 Speaker 1: he could say, you know, look, I need the attorney 566 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:50,200 Speaker 1: the Attorney general. People would say, oh, would ever publicly 567 00:35:50,239 --> 00:35:52,440 Speaker 1: do this? I mean, tell the Attorney General. I want, 568 00:35:52,480 --> 00:35:56,359 Speaker 1: I want answers about what happened in Ukraine, look into it. 569 00:35:56,960 --> 00:36:04,319 Speaker 1: Open the investigation. There is no special immunity from investigation 570 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: for Senator for issues that touch upon Senator Joe Biden 571 00:36:09,080 --> 00:36:12,839 Speaker 1: or his family. There's certainly no immunity for investigation as 572 00:36:12,880 --> 00:36:15,040 Speaker 1: far as Libs are concerned. When it comes to Trump, 573 00:36:15,840 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: they claim there's immunity from prosecution, right, and that's what's 574 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:21,040 Speaker 1: been said now as well by the White House. We'll 575 00:36:21,040 --> 00:36:23,440 Speaker 1: see if that's true. They would love to bring charges 576 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:28,880 Speaker 1: against him. But let's just go over some of the facts. Yesterday, 577 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: I read to you from that Politico article and that 578 00:36:33,400 --> 00:36:35,600 Speaker 1: political article, and that was at a time when there 579 00:36:35,719 --> 00:36:40,759 Speaker 1: was a belief that Hillary Clinton was definitely going to 580 00:36:40,840 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: be the president, and Obama's foreign policy apparatus was tightly 581 00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:55,760 Speaker 1: enmeshed in situations going on in Ukraine and his ambassadors, 582 00:36:55,840 --> 00:37:01,000 Speaker 1: his appointees, Obama's we're running foreign policy in that country, 583 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:05,839 Speaker 1: and political did this story though, on how there were 584 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:10,440 Speaker 1: people at the Ukraine embassy, employees of the Ukrainian government 585 00:37:10,880 --> 00:37:14,880 Speaker 1: who were trying to be helpful to their American and 586 00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:19,879 Speaker 1: in this case under a Democrat administration counterparts, to give 587 00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:26,920 Speaker 1: information damaging that is damaging to President Trump, specifically information 588 00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:33,080 Speaker 1: about Paul Manafort and his dealings in Ukraine. But that, 589 00:37:33,280 --> 00:37:35,960 Speaker 1: my friends, would be for an interference in an election, 590 00:37:36,000 --> 00:37:39,640 Speaker 1: wouldn't it. This is what we've always been told that 591 00:37:39,960 --> 00:37:45,000 Speaker 1: even if, for example, nothing was exchange in a meeting 592 00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,080 Speaker 1: between Donald Trump Junior and Jared Kushner and all the 593 00:37:47,120 --> 00:37:51,120 Speaker 1: rest at Trump Tower, just sitting down and listening to 594 00:37:51,160 --> 00:37:53,640 Speaker 1: somebody who said they had information about Hillary Clinton that 595 00:37:54,239 --> 00:37:58,480 Speaker 1: they said that was treason at one point, which is insane, 596 00:37:58,520 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: by the way, These people are nuts. But I got 597 00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,920 Speaker 1: to put that aside for a moment. So the political 598 00:38:02,960 --> 00:38:07,160 Speaker 1: story still stands. There were journalists at that time who 599 00:38:07,160 --> 00:38:09,239 Speaker 1: were willing to look into this and find out that 600 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:15,000 Speaker 1: there were Ukrainian government officials that seem to want to 601 00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,880 Speaker 1: help Hillary, and we should know about that. We should 602 00:38:19,880 --> 00:38:25,320 Speaker 1: also know if those Democrat appointees in the State Department 603 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:30,520 Speaker 1: apparatus were perhaps even not just happy to try to 604 00:38:30,520 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 1: get that information. But we're giving them instructions, collection requirements, 605 00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:36,759 Speaker 1: if you will, saying hey, go get this for me, 606 00:38:36,800 --> 00:38:43,000 Speaker 1: Go get that for me. First up Byron new York's 607 00:38:43,000 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: piece here government Minister's attack. During the summer of twenty sixteen, 608 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:51,320 Speaker 1: candidate Trump was under constant criticism for being insufficiently critical 609 00:38:51,400 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 1: of Russian President Vladimir Putin. From Ukraine's perspective, Trump's Crimea 610 00:38:57,520 --> 00:39:00,040 Speaker 1: statements were linked to the presence of Paul Manafort in 611 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: the Trump campaign. First hired in March of twenty sixteen 612 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:08,720 Speaker 1: to organize delegate support, Manaport was promoted to campaign chairman 613 00:39:08,840 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: in June. Trump's comments on Crimea set off a strong 614 00:39:16,280 --> 00:39:20,600 Speaker 1: reaction in Ukraine. Some high ranking members of the Ukrainian 615 00:39:20,640 --> 00:39:24,560 Speaker 1: government took to social media in an attempt to influence 616 00:39:24,640 --> 00:39:30,799 Speaker 1: as best they could the US presidential race. Arzin Avakov, 617 00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,319 Speaker 1: at that time, the Interior Minister, tweeted that Trump was 618 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: a quote clown, and added that the Republican candidate was 619 00:39:38,800 --> 00:39:46,280 Speaker 1: quote an even bigger danger to the US than terrorism. 620 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: That's the Interior minister of Ukraine. Oh yeah, yeah, that 621 00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:58,280 Speaker 1: seems like somebody has something to say. On Facebook, Avakov wrote, 622 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:01,799 Speaker 1: the shameless statement of you President candidate Donald Trump on 623 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:06,520 Speaker 1: the possible recognition of crimea as Russia is a diagnosis 624 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:10,800 Speaker 1: of a dangerous outcast. He is dangerous both for Ukraine 625 00:40:10,920 --> 00:40:14,840 Speaker 1: and the US to the same extent, an outcast bowing 626 00:40:14,880 --> 00:40:19,799 Speaker 1: down to Putin's dictatorship cannot be the guaranteur of democratic 627 00:40:19,880 --> 00:40:26,640 Speaker 1: freedoms in the US and the world. Avacov suggested Manaphort 628 00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: was responsible for Trump's position. Where will Manafort take Trump, 629 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:36,000 Speaker 1: Avacov asked. He completed the post by adding a photo 630 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:40,920 Speaker 1: of a mural in Vilnius portraying Trump and Putin in 631 00:40:40,960 --> 00:40:46,080 Speaker 1: a passionate kiss, which is popular in hashtag resistant circles 632 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:48,680 Speaker 1: around the world. End quote here from this Byron York 633 00:40:48,680 --> 00:40:53,759 Speaker 1: piece in the Washington Examiner. Okay that no, remember what 634 00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:59,960 Speaker 1: we're establishing here is the context the environment in twenty 635 00:41:00,239 --> 00:41:03,759 Speaker 1: sixteen in Ukraine and Kiev, which everyone says, now I 636 00:41:03,840 --> 00:41:05,520 Speaker 1: used to be Kiev, right, But ever now all the 637 00:41:05,560 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: cool kids say Kiev, just like no one says the 638 00:41:08,520 --> 00:41:12,600 Speaker 1: Ukraine now ever knows it's just Ukraine was in Kiev 639 00:41:13,360 --> 00:41:16,839 Speaker 1: at the embassy there. What were the sentiments like of 640 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:22,640 Speaker 1: the government before Zelenski came in? Right? What what was 641 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:27,400 Speaker 1: going on in this Ukrainian regime at the time. And 642 00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,800 Speaker 1: the answer is that you had very, very top figures 643 00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:38,080 Speaker 1: who were decidedly openly anti Trump and worried about Trump. 644 00:41:38,239 --> 00:41:39,839 Speaker 1: And not just they didn't like him, but they were 645 00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: worried about a Trump presidency because I mean the recognition, 646 00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:46,360 Speaker 1: for example, of Crimea's legitimate, that would be an enormous 647 00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 1: slap in the face to Ukraine. They would completely freak 648 00:41:49,000 --> 00:41:51,600 Speaker 1: out about that. And so you start thinking, we'll hold 649 00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:58,319 Speaker 1: on a second. Explain to me, then, the lengths that 650 00:41:58,480 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: these different Ukrainian politicians and ministers and officials would be 651 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:06,719 Speaker 1: willing to go to to prevent an American president from 652 00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:11,360 Speaker 1: winning a US election that could result in a cutoff 653 00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:13,239 Speaker 1: of the aid that we've all been told is so 654 00:42:13,320 --> 00:42:15,960 Speaker 1: near and dear to the Ukrainians and fighting against the Russians, 655 00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:20,440 Speaker 1: a friendly voice for Putin and recognition of Crimea none 656 00:42:20,440 --> 00:42:22,200 Speaker 1: of those things, by the way, I ended up being true, 657 00:42:23,640 --> 00:42:27,440 Speaker 1: which also makes one think how much of the perception 658 00:42:27,520 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: of these Ukrainian officials was driven by Democrat Obama administration 659 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,799 Speaker 1: appointees and employees in Ukraine, Americans who were telling the Ukrainians, 660 00:42:40,120 --> 00:42:45,399 Speaker 1: if Trump wins, you guys are screwed. I'm just I'm 661 00:42:45,440 --> 00:42:50,840 Speaker 1: just putting we're working through this together. Okay. So there's 662 00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:54,799 Speaker 1: clearly motive. And we already have one individual here, the 663 00:42:54,840 --> 00:42:57,799 Speaker 1: Interior minister not sting, you know, not a coffee boy 664 00:42:57,840 --> 00:42:59,600 Speaker 1: that no one's ever heard of, Okay, the Interior Minister 665 00:42:59,640 --> 00:43:02,360 Speaker 1: of Ukraine saying that Trump is a huge danger and 666 00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:08,279 Speaker 1: it's terrible and he's awful. M interesting back to this 667 00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:10,760 Speaker 1: Byron York piece. At about the same time, a former 668 00:43:10,800 --> 00:43:14,640 Speaker 1: prime minister arsny yat sen Yuk it's a fun name 669 00:43:14,680 --> 00:43:17,880 Speaker 1: to say, made the case that Trump's statement on Crimea 670 00:43:18,000 --> 00:43:24,160 Speaker 1: and Putin made his campaign fair game for Ukrainians. Trump's 671 00:43:24,200 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: comments quote go beyond any form of domestic political campaigning. 672 00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,320 Speaker 1: Yet Saniok, Yet, Saniok wrote, an official candidate for the 673 00:43:32,440 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: United States presidential election, has challenged the very values of 674 00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:42,640 Speaker 1: the free world, civilized world order. And international law. This 675 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 1: guy's a former Prime minister of Ukraine. Let's be like, 676 00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:48,799 Speaker 1: I imagine if you know, George W. Bush is writing 677 00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:50,279 Speaker 1: that about somebody and they're like, oh, but there was 678 00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:56,279 Speaker 1: no anti sentiment from the government. M strange, isn't it. 679 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:01,879 Speaker 1: What about Donald Trump? Oh? Sorry, what Donald Trump said 680 00:44:01,880 --> 00:44:06,040 Speaker 1: about crimea today? Yet, Sanioch wrote, might tamarrow extend to 681 00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,719 Speaker 1: some other part of the world, in Europe, Asia or 682 00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:15,280 Speaker 1: the Americas? And that makes it worrisome for everyone, for everyone, 683 00:44:16,520 --> 00:44:23,719 Speaker 1: including apparently perhaps employees of the Ukraine embassy, or rather 684 00:44:23,760 --> 00:44:27,640 Speaker 1: employees of the Ukrainian Foreign Ministry working with and interacting 685 00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:33,400 Speaker 1: with Americans at the embassy in Kieth. Perhaps we wouldn't 686 00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:35,120 Speaker 1: really know, though, would we, unless we had a full 687 00:44:35,120 --> 00:44:37,560 Speaker 1: accounting of this, unless there was an investigation of this. 688 00:44:39,400 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: Number two here environs list. The ambassador takes a position 689 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,560 Speaker 1: at about the same time as a government minister and 690 00:44:46,600 --> 00:44:49,799 Speaker 1: a former top official. We're taking to social media. Ukraine's 691 00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:54,080 Speaker 1: ambassador to the US, Valerie Chalie, wrote an op ed 692 00:44:54,160 --> 00:44:58,440 Speaker 1: published in The Hill. He used much more temperate language, 693 00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:00,880 Speaker 1: but he said that Trump's statements on I have raised 694 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:06,239 Speaker 1: serious concerns in Kiev and beyond Ukraine, and they were 695 00:45:06,280 --> 00:45:10,839 Speaker 1: in sharp contrast to the Republican Party platform, and they 696 00:45:10,840 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 1: were in contrast to bipartisan support for sanctions against Russia. 697 00:45:14,920 --> 00:45:19,239 Speaker 1: So the acting or the actual ambassador from Ukraine to 698 00:45:19,239 --> 00:45:21,279 Speaker 1: the United States wrote or op ed at the Hill 699 00:45:21,400 --> 00:45:26,919 Speaker 1: or I used to work saying, yeah, Trump's really bad 700 00:45:26,960 --> 00:45:31,600 Speaker 1: on this stuff. Guys, We're really worried. M But I 701 00:45:31,640 --> 00:45:34,680 Speaker 1: mean we think that Ukraine in the government, there no 702 00:45:34,719 --> 00:45:37,120 Speaker 1: one working for it, tried to help Hillary. Right, That's 703 00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,960 Speaker 1: that's the premise we're told, and anybody it's a debunk 704 00:45:40,080 --> 00:45:46,239 Speaker 1: conspiracy theory to say otherwise. Okay. Then he goes into 705 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:52,680 Speaker 1: Leshenko and the black Ledger. He is a member of 706 00:45:52,760 --> 00:45:55,120 Speaker 1: former member or I think still a member of parliament. 707 00:45:55,200 --> 00:45:58,680 Speaker 1: This is Leshenko now and quote. A few weeks after 708 00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:03,040 Speaker 1: Trump's statements about Crimea in August of twenty sixteen, Leshenko 709 00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,880 Speaker 1: took on a new task. On August twenty eighth, the 710 00:46:06,000 --> 00:46:10,719 Speaker 1: Financial Times publish a story Ukraine's leaders campaign against pro 711 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: Putin Trump, which began for years. Sarah Leshenko, a top 712 00:46:16,640 --> 00:46:21,600 Speaker 1: Ukrainian anti corruption campaigner, worked to expose kleptocracy under former 713 00:46:21,640 --> 00:46:25,480 Speaker 1: president Victor Yannakovich. Now he is focusing on a new 714 00:46:25,640 --> 00:46:35,239 Speaker 1: perceived pro Russian threat to Ukraine US presidential candidate Donald Trump. Okay, 715 00:46:36,600 --> 00:46:41,280 Speaker 1: how many more powerful government and anti corruption and anti 716 00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:46,279 Speaker 1: Russian figures in the Ukrainian government apparatus do we have 717 00:46:46,320 --> 00:46:50,400 Speaker 1: to find who are openly deeply opposed to Trump winning 718 00:46:50,440 --> 00:46:53,600 Speaker 1: the presidency in twenty sixteen because of his Ukraine policy, 719 00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:57,640 Speaker 1: before we think well, maybe maybe Ukrainians did kind of 720 00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: want to help out Hillary a little bit. I'd be 721 00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:04,080 Speaker 1: a little be a little strange, right, And then we 722 00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:10,080 Speaker 1: get to the mysterious Alexandra Chalupa. The Trump Ukraine bruhaha 723 00:47:10,239 --> 00:47:12,040 Speaker 1: has shed light on the activities of a woman named 724 00:47:12,040 --> 00:47:14,160 Speaker 1: Alexander Chalupa, who worked in the Clinton White House and 725 00:47:14,239 --> 00:47:18,359 Speaker 1: later with Democratic National Committee. Chalupa's parents emigrated the US 726 00:47:18,440 --> 00:47:21,520 Speaker 1: from Ukraine, and she maintained strong ties to the US 727 00:47:21,640 --> 00:47:26,759 Speaker 1: American sorry to the American Ukrainian diaspora, and the US 728 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:31,160 Speaker 1: Embassy in Ukraine. This was, according to a twenty seventeen 729 00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:36,880 Speaker 1: January twenty seventeen article in Politico, Ukrainian efforts to sabotage 730 00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:44,200 Speaker 1: Trump backfire. Politico reported in twenty fourteen Chalupa had a 731 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:47,360 Speaker 1: client or that. In twenty fourteen, Chalupa had a client 732 00:47:47,440 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: interested in the Ukrainian crisis. As part of that, she 733 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:54,960 Speaker 1: began looking into Manifort's activities in Ukraine. Julupa developed a 734 00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,000 Speaker 1: network of sources in Kiev and Washington, including investigative journalist, 735 00:47:59,000 --> 00:48:02,960 Speaker 1: government officials, in private intelligence operatives. When Trump was leading 736 00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:08,280 Speaker 1: the Republican presidential nominating contest, Chalupa began focusing her research 737 00:48:08,440 --> 00:48:12,120 Speaker 1: on him. In March of twenty sixteen, Chalupa went to 738 00:48:12,120 --> 00:48:16,520 Speaker 1: the Ukrainian Embassy in Washington and shared her concerns with 739 00:48:16,680 --> 00:48:21,520 Speaker 1: Ambassador Chali and one of his deputies. Not long after, 740 00:48:21,600 --> 00:48:24,400 Speaker 1: Chalupa spoke again with the DNC and, according to Politico, 741 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:28,200 Speaker 1: with the d n c's encouragement, Chalupa asked embassy staff 742 00:48:28,239 --> 00:48:32,360 Speaker 1: to try to interview arrange an interview in which President 743 00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:40,399 Speaker 1: Poroshenko would discuss Manaforts ties to Yannikovich. The embassy said no, 744 00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:47,080 Speaker 1: but was helpful. According to Chalupa, my friends, this is 745 00:48:47,120 --> 00:48:50,440 Speaker 1: a lot of evidence. It's a lot of evidence of 746 00:48:51,200 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: anti Trump feelings in Ukraine from the previous Ukrainian government 747 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:03,000 Speaker 1: and involving the previous administration in this country's political appointees 748 00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:08,680 Speaker 1: and even some d nc APO researchers were any was 749 00:49:08,719 --> 00:49:10,799 Speaker 1: any of this investigator has an even looked into any 750 00:49:10,800 --> 00:49:15,360 Speaker 1: of this What really happened here? Here's a problem for Democrats. 751 00:49:16,600 --> 00:49:19,759 Speaker 1: I am quite confident that if there was a real 752 00:49:19,800 --> 00:49:22,359 Speaker 1: look into all of this, we would find out that 753 00:49:23,200 --> 00:49:29,680 Speaker 1: Democrat channels somehow got information from Ukrainian counterparts about Paul Manafort, 754 00:49:30,120 --> 00:49:33,640 Speaker 1: who then became the single biggest target other than Trump, 755 00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 1: of course, but the single biggest criminal target of the 756 00:49:36,920 --> 00:49:41,279 Speaker 1: entire Russia collusion probe. A lot of these people really 757 00:49:41,280 --> 00:49:46,000 Speaker 1: hated Manafort, and people knew early on who the Manafort 758 00:49:46,040 --> 00:49:47,040 Speaker 1: was going to be in a lot of trouble, which 759 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:48,919 Speaker 1: also why the Trump campaign fired him. That's a whole 760 00:49:48,960 --> 00:49:52,480 Speaker 1: other thing. So what would it mean though, for this 761 00:49:52,520 --> 00:49:56,160 Speaker 1: whole narrative about foreign interference and you know, getting involved 762 00:49:56,160 --> 00:49:58,839 Speaker 1: in our elections if it turns out the Democrats themselves 763 00:49:59,680 --> 00:50:02,560 Speaker 1: were taking a thing of value, as they call it, 764 00:50:02,640 --> 00:50:10,120 Speaker 1: information about the opposing political campaign's campaign chairman from a 765 00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:14,960 Speaker 1: foreign government, getting oppo research from a foreign government, and 766 00:50:15,000 --> 00:50:18,359 Speaker 1: then pretending like nothing ever happened. And then what would 767 00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,520 Speaker 1: we think about all of the things they've said about 768 00:50:20,719 --> 00:50:26,680 Speaker 1: Wiki leagues and Russia and Russian interference was Ukraine, And 769 00:50:26,760 --> 00:50:31,399 Speaker 1: by Ukraine I mean was the previous Ukrainian administration which 770 00:50:31,600 --> 00:50:36,760 Speaker 1: was clearly terrified of Trump's reported fondness for Putin in Russia, 771 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:39,759 Speaker 1: which as we know, was not even an accurate way 772 00:50:39,800 --> 00:50:43,480 Speaker 1: to describe a situation, but or describe what has happened 773 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:47,480 Speaker 1: certainly since he came into office. But was that Ukrainian 774 00:50:48,440 --> 00:50:51,799 Speaker 1: government trying to help Hillary win the election? Did the 775 00:50:51,800 --> 00:50:54,239 Speaker 1: Democrats invite that help and did they know about it? 776 00:50:54,960 --> 00:50:57,520 Speaker 1: I can't tell you yet the answer is one hundred 777 00:50:57,560 --> 00:50:59,680 Speaker 1: percent yes, But I can tell you it certainly looks 778 00:51:00,120 --> 00:51:04,200 Speaker 1: more than likely that would be the case. And if 779 00:51:04,239 --> 00:51:06,520 Speaker 1: that is the case, all of this stuff that they 780 00:51:06,560 --> 00:51:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean, we would have to go back and look 781 00:51:08,560 --> 00:51:10,800 Speaker 1: again and everything that they have said about Russia collusion 782 00:51:10,840 --> 00:51:14,680 Speaker 1: and all the rest of it. And ultimately it would 783 00:51:14,719 --> 00:51:20,000 Speaker 1: mean that Trump's request to look into twenty sixteen and 784 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:24,800 Speaker 1: corruption and Barisma and the bidens, because that was all 785 00:51:24,840 --> 00:51:28,040 Speaker 1: swirling around at this time in twenty sixteen, that would 786 00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:33,480 Speaker 1: have been one hundred percent acceptable, legitimate, and beyond any 787 00:51:33,520 --> 00:51:39,520 Speaker 1: reasonable doubt, the exercise of presidential power in a way 788 00:51:39,560 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 1: that is of benefit not just to the President, but 789 00:51:41,960 --> 00:51:44,839 Speaker 1: to the United States as a whole. So they're going 790 00:51:44,880 --> 00:51:46,839 Speaker 1: to have to do everything they can to suppress this. 791 00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,239 Speaker 1: They're going to have to do everything they can to 792 00:51:48,280 --> 00:51:53,839 Speaker 1: make sure that we can't even investigate where all these 793 00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:55,759 Speaker 1: data points I show you, we think that they're not 794 00:51:55,760 --> 00:51:58,759 Speaker 1: going to find out anything. I think that what are 795 00:51:58,760 --> 00:52:00,680 Speaker 1: the Democrats things going to happen? The way won the 796 00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:05,359 Speaker 1: Senate can call witnesses, can subpoena people. When they put 797 00:52:05,840 --> 00:52:10,640 Speaker 1: Alexandra Chaloupa under oath, when they put Hunter Biden under oath, 798 00:52:12,719 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: you reap what you sew. Democrats, it doesn't matter because 799 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,800 Speaker 1: right now you have a kangaroo court headed by little 800 00:52:20,800 --> 00:52:25,120 Speaker 1: shifty chef where we don't have lawyers, we don't have witnesses, 801 00:52:25,480 --> 00:52:27,920 Speaker 1: we don't have anything. And yet I just got to 802 00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,759 Speaker 1: watch and the Republicans are absolutely killing it. They are 803 00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:35,520 Speaker 1: doing so well because it's a scam. It's a big scam. 804 00:52:36,040 --> 00:52:39,080 Speaker 1: They're doing something that the founders never thought possible, and 805 00:52:39,120 --> 00:52:43,240 Speaker 1: the founders didn't want, and they're using this impeachment hoax 806 00:52:43,640 --> 00:52:48,080 Speaker 1: for their own political gain to try and damage the 807 00:52:48,120 --> 00:52:51,360 Speaker 1: Republican Party and damage the president. But it's had the 808 00:52:51,360 --> 00:52:53,920 Speaker 1: opposite effect, because you've seen the polls and we're now 809 00:52:53,960 --> 00:52:56,360 Speaker 1: the highest. I'm the highest I've ever been in the polls. 810 00:52:56,800 --> 00:52:58,960 Speaker 1: You don't hear that on television because the news that 811 00:52:59,000 --> 00:53:03,719 Speaker 1: the Democrats are the same. But that's the story. I 812 00:53:03,760 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 1: certainly think the President is right that it's a scam. 813 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:07,799 Speaker 1: But I want to bring in my friend David Harsani. 814 00:53:08,000 --> 00:53:11,560 Speaker 1: He is a senior writer at National Review. Has got 815 00:53:11,600 --> 00:53:14,360 Speaker 1: great takes on this short form and long form. David, 816 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,040 Speaker 1: appreciate you coming back on the program. Always a pleasure, 817 00:53:17,040 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 1: I think for having all. I mean, what are your takeaway? 818 00:53:19,160 --> 00:53:22,120 Speaker 1: You know, Salmon today, everyone on the left, all the 819 00:53:22,160 --> 00:53:25,240 Speaker 1: Democrats making a huge deal about this, which I want 820 00:53:25,280 --> 00:53:28,319 Speaker 1: your your overall. So what of where we are right 821 00:53:28,360 --> 00:53:33,319 Speaker 1: now in this impeachment mess? Well, I mean, I guess 822 00:53:33,680 --> 00:53:37,200 Speaker 1: I'm of two minds. One is that it's very hard 823 00:53:37,200 --> 00:53:39,200 Speaker 1: for me to get excited about anything that's going on 824 00:53:39,280 --> 00:53:44,800 Speaker 1: because I think everyone understands that Trump asked the Ukrainian 825 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,960 Speaker 1: president to look into Biden's son. And if you think 826 00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:50,200 Speaker 1: that that's an impeachable offense, you're for it. If if 827 00:53:50,200 --> 00:53:53,040 Speaker 1: you don't, you're not. I don't think anything we're gonna 828 00:53:53,080 --> 00:53:57,880 Speaker 1: hear is gonna change that basic story, right. The thing is, 829 00:53:57,920 --> 00:54:00,280 Speaker 1: people ask me, do you think it's impeachable offense, and answer, 830 00:54:00,320 --> 00:54:03,320 Speaker 1: of course is yes. Anything that the House wants to 831 00:54:03,360 --> 00:54:05,480 Speaker 1: impeach for is an impeachable fence if they feel like 832 00:54:05,560 --> 00:54:07,759 Speaker 1: it didn't have the votes. The thing is a thing. 833 00:54:07,760 --> 00:54:10,200 Speaker 1: A lot of Republicans feel like there are two sets 834 00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,880 Speaker 1: of rules that we're living by, one for Democrats and 835 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,480 Speaker 1: one for them, and that Democrats have been trying to 836 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:18,080 Speaker 1: impeach this president from day one, so they're trying to 837 00:54:18,120 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: overturn the election. I don't like the word coup, but 838 00:54:21,239 --> 00:54:25,520 Speaker 1: that's what people feel rightly so in many ways, so 839 00:54:26,400 --> 00:54:29,319 Speaker 1: I think a lot of this is just political trying 840 00:54:29,360 --> 00:54:31,440 Speaker 1: to weaken the president for twenty twenties not going to 841 00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,280 Speaker 1: be removed, and it's kind of like we're just spinning 842 00:54:34,280 --> 00:54:38,120 Speaker 1: our wheels of wasting our time. And yet there are 843 00:54:38,120 --> 00:54:40,560 Speaker 1: so many people that I see over at some of 844 00:54:40,600 --> 00:54:44,600 Speaker 1: the cable that works, for example, who like to invoke 845 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:48,560 Speaker 1: the Founding Fathers. Nancy Pelosi is practically in tears when 846 00:54:48,560 --> 00:54:52,200 Speaker 1: she talks about how Solomon occasion this is. Do you 847 00:54:52,239 --> 00:54:56,080 Speaker 1: think that for most of the Democrat audience that all 848 00:54:56,120 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 1: this theater is intended for. Are they just happy and 849 00:55:00,280 --> 00:55:03,880 Speaker 1: sort of eating the popcorn while they watch people skewer 850 00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,440 Speaker 1: Trump on TV? Or do you think that they really 851 00:55:07,520 --> 00:55:10,120 Speaker 1: believe that this is a fair process. I mean, I 852 00:55:10,160 --> 00:55:13,160 Speaker 1: know I'm asking to kind of like assess mass opinion 853 00:55:13,160 --> 00:55:14,840 Speaker 1: in a way, but but I'm just I'm just curious 854 00:55:14,880 --> 00:55:16,439 Speaker 1: myself because I see this and I'm like, I don't 855 00:55:16,719 --> 00:55:18,880 Speaker 1: I don't think it's possible to be an intelligent person 856 00:55:19,280 --> 00:55:22,880 Speaker 1: and hear about how the president should be impeached starting 857 00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:25,440 Speaker 1: right after the election, and then have all these different 858 00:55:25,440 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 1: reasons why he should be impeached all along. But now 859 00:55:28,040 --> 00:55:31,200 Speaker 1: this time around with Adam Schiff running this ridiculous like 860 00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, make it up as you go along political process. 861 00:55:34,520 --> 00:55:36,600 Speaker 1: Now this is all solemn and serious. All that other 862 00:55:36,600 --> 00:55:38,640 Speaker 1: stuff was supposed to be forgotten. I just don't think 863 00:55:38,640 --> 00:55:42,399 Speaker 1: it's possible. Fuck. I will speak for the people. I 864 00:55:42,440 --> 00:55:46,760 Speaker 1: think that anyone with two praint cells does not believe 865 00:55:47,320 --> 00:55:51,000 Speaker 1: that this is some sort of defense of a constitution. 866 00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,839 Speaker 1: There is no constitutional imperative to impeache someone. Sure you 867 00:55:54,880 --> 00:55:57,920 Speaker 1: can do it, but you know you have the same 868 00:55:57,960 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 1: people who are who are doing everything, the counter to 869 00:56:00,920 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: corrode the First Amendment, the Second, the fourth, the fifth 870 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:07,200 Speaker 1: to tenth telling me that they're protecting the Constitution by 871 00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:10,320 Speaker 1: by impeaching Donald Trump. I hate to break this to everyone. 872 00:56:10,320 --> 00:56:12,279 Speaker 1: I'm not a big Donald Trump fan, but he has 873 00:56:12,320 --> 00:56:15,759 Speaker 1: done He's not done anything worse, and he's probably been 874 00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:19,640 Speaker 1: far better in protecting the Constitution than the presidents that 875 00:56:19,680 --> 00:56:22,040 Speaker 1: have come before him. Whether he did it on purpose 876 00:56:22,160 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: or not, I don't really care that much, you know. 877 00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:28,279 Speaker 1: So you know, an Adam Schiff I think is the 878 00:56:28,280 --> 00:56:31,720 Speaker 1: president's greatest friend. I mean, yeah, sometimes it's a criminal 879 00:56:31,760 --> 00:56:34,720 Speaker 1: proceeding and sometimes you know, it's not a criminal proceeding, 880 00:56:34,760 --> 00:56:36,319 Speaker 1: depending on what they want to do and when they 881 00:56:36,320 --> 00:56:39,799 Speaker 1: want to do it. It's all just so arbitrary that 882 00:56:40,280 --> 00:56:43,520 Speaker 1: it just looks ridiculous. I mean, you watch I'm embarrassed 883 00:56:43,520 --> 00:56:45,719 Speaker 1: to watch it, but not for the reasons Democrats think, 884 00:56:45,760 --> 00:56:49,800 Speaker 1: and just embarrassed by the entire process. Just does seem 885 00:56:49,800 --> 00:56:51,799 Speaker 1: like a sham. I mean, I you know, you've got 886 00:56:51,800 --> 00:56:54,600 Speaker 1: these people who still cling to and you know, you 887 00:56:54,640 --> 00:56:56,880 Speaker 1: know my feelings about Jake Tapper, her Sani. I mean, 888 00:56:56,920 --> 00:56:59,520 Speaker 1: people like that. Though Don Lemon went on TV last 889 00:56:59,600 --> 00:57:01,480 Speaker 1: night and said that, you know, he's not a liberal 890 00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:04,279 Speaker 1: partisan democrat. I actually laughed. I mean, I don't mean 891 00:57:04,320 --> 00:57:07,080 Speaker 1: I thought it was amusing. I laughed out loud as 892 00:57:07,080 --> 00:57:09,360 Speaker 1: the funniest thing I've seen in a long time, you know, 893 00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:12,399 Speaker 1: Jake Tapper, Oh, this is the process and the I mean, 894 00:57:12,480 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: are these people do they realize how clownish this is 895 00:57:15,520 --> 00:57:17,760 Speaker 1: and how absurd they are, or or you know, I 896 00:57:17,800 --> 00:57:20,720 Speaker 1: just kind of wonder they think the audience expects them 897 00:57:20,760 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: to go through this. Why not just say, well, yeah, 898 00:57:22,800 --> 00:57:24,320 Speaker 1: you know, we don't like Trump, but we don't want 899 00:57:24,320 --> 00:57:26,680 Speaker 1: to get rid of him. I mean, everybody knows, right, No, 900 00:57:26,680 --> 00:57:28,560 Speaker 1: no one thinks that this is about anything other than 901 00:57:28,600 --> 00:57:33,200 Speaker 1: attacking Trump. Yeah, I mean, listen, the corruption of the media. 902 00:57:33,240 --> 00:57:35,920 Speaker 1: And I don't say that as as a means of saying, oh, 903 00:57:35,960 --> 00:57:39,120 Speaker 1: oh look they're biased. I mean it's corrupt because it's 904 00:57:39,120 --> 00:57:42,320 Speaker 1: it's it's not biased, it's just half truth or non truth. 905 00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:46,120 Speaker 1: And CNN yesterday I saw the media guy with his 906 00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:50,320 Speaker 1: name Brian skeltering about finding the truth and digging for 907 00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:54,560 Speaker 1: the truth. And you know, CNN, I can, off the 908 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:56,480 Speaker 1: top of my head come up with ten mistakes they 909 00:57:56,560 --> 00:58:00,760 Speaker 1: made during this Russia conspiracy hoax stuff that was like brutal, 910 00:58:00,800 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 1: and it all skewed in the same direction, and it 911 00:58:03,160 --> 00:58:05,720 Speaker 1: changed and had a huge effect and changed the way 912 00:58:05,720 --> 00:58:08,320 Speaker 1: people thought about the presidency, especially on their left. They 913 00:58:08,320 --> 00:58:11,800 Speaker 1: think it's all legitimate. Still, that's a that's a serious 914 00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:16,800 Speaker 1: corruption I think of of media. And you know, sometimes 915 00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:18,880 Speaker 1: I want to write listen, I don't want to when 916 00:58:18,920 --> 00:58:21,160 Speaker 1: I'm tweeting. I want to write lol over stuff, but 917 00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: because I'm literally laughing out loud at what they're saying. 918 00:58:23,880 --> 00:58:25,840 Speaker 1: But you know, that's a bit of a cliche these days. 919 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,640 Speaker 1: I think, well, but I think that that is really 920 00:58:28,640 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 1: the rational response to a lot of a lot of 921 00:58:31,200 --> 00:58:33,600 Speaker 1: what we were seeing right now. It's just I mean, 922 00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:36,120 Speaker 1: you know Adam Schiff saying, for example, he doesn't know 923 00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,960 Speaker 1: the identity of the whistleblower. I mean that is that 924 00:58:39,120 --> 00:58:44,280 Speaker 1: is just this absolutely this I uh, you know, I 925 00:58:44,320 --> 00:58:47,880 Speaker 1: worked in a newspaper, you know, the reported things. If 926 00:58:48,280 --> 00:58:51,760 Speaker 1: we would always want there is zero reason for journalists 927 00:58:51,800 --> 00:58:54,000 Speaker 1: not to mention the name of the whistle blower. It's zero. 928 00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 1: They should be searching for that name. If the if 929 00:58:56,680 --> 00:59:00,440 Speaker 1: the if this was a democratic uh administer stration, and 930 00:59:00,520 --> 00:59:02,200 Speaker 1: Obama there was a whistle that they would be at, 931 00:59:02,240 --> 00:59:04,360 Speaker 1: that name would be all over the place all the time. 932 00:59:04,440 --> 00:59:06,960 Speaker 1: Everything he'd done since the second grade would be known. 933 00:59:07,160 --> 00:59:10,320 Speaker 1: I've seen, I've seen. I've seen some you know, conservative 934 00:59:10,400 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 1: leading journalists, by the way, and some outlets too, who 935 00:59:12,560 --> 00:59:15,200 Speaker 1: all of a suddenly we can't say, you know, Eric 936 00:59:15,240 --> 00:59:18,200 Speaker 1: Sharamella is reportedly the whistleblower. I look at them, I'm like, 937 00:59:18,640 --> 00:59:21,760 Speaker 1: first of all, the anonymity thing for the whistleblower is 938 00:59:21,760 --> 00:59:23,919 Speaker 1: is a fiction that's not even true. Even I believe 939 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:27,360 Speaker 1: the Washington Post gave three pinocchios to shift on this thing. 940 00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,080 Speaker 1: There is no statutory anonymity that has to be enforced 941 00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:34,120 Speaker 1: by everybody. Maybe if people say that you could go 942 00:59:34,160 --> 00:59:36,600 Speaker 1: to maybe you'll go to prison for outing the whistleblower. 943 00:59:36,640 --> 00:59:38,360 Speaker 1: They've got. These are the people that used to used 944 00:59:38,400 --> 00:59:41,560 Speaker 1: to want to publish the Pentagon papers, published the Wiki 945 00:59:41,640 --> 00:59:45,160 Speaker 1: League's trove of classified documents. I mean, I mean, I 946 00:59:45,200 --> 00:59:47,440 Speaker 1: look around. I mean, I really think I think that 947 00:59:48,280 --> 00:59:51,560 Speaker 1: CNN and ABC News, for reasons that are even outside 948 00:59:51,560 --> 00:59:53,840 Speaker 1: of this discussion we could talk about and Emison, I 949 00:59:53,840 --> 00:59:56,080 Speaker 1: think these places are an absurdity. Now, I really do. 950 00:59:56,360 --> 00:59:58,800 Speaker 1: Here's the thing if you think is a publication that 951 00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:02,680 Speaker 1: you're not sure that that's the whistleblower, right, that's one thing. 952 01:00:02,840 --> 01:00:04,680 Speaker 1: If you're not publishing it because you don't want to 953 01:00:04,680 --> 01:00:08,240 Speaker 1: out a whistle blower, that's ridiculous. As you just lay 954 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:12,200 Speaker 1: it out. It's not illegal because you know, Busfeed just 955 01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:15,720 Speaker 1: put the whole dossier online for people to read. It's 956 01:00:15,760 --> 01:00:20,760 Speaker 1: not you know, it's ridiculous. More information, something that's positive 957 01:00:20,760 --> 01:00:23,920 Speaker 1: and something we want in a democracy, and that's what 958 01:00:23,960 --> 01:00:25,680 Speaker 1: the media is supposed to be giving us. Now. I 959 01:00:25,680 --> 01:00:27,400 Speaker 1: want everyone to go read your stuff, because I read 960 01:00:27,400 --> 01:00:28,840 Speaker 1: your stuff, which is why I have you on the show, 961 01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,560 Speaker 1: not just because I like you. Nancy Pelosi is already 962 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,320 Speaker 1: attacking the legitimacy of the twenty twenty election. That's up 963 01:00:34,320 --> 01:00:38,439 Speaker 1: on nationalview dot com right now. Tell me about this one. Well, 964 01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:41,160 Speaker 1: I mean she said yesterday, you know, Donald Trump tweeted something, 965 01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:44,440 Speaker 1: but he had put you know, he didn't quote her exactly, 966 01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,400 Speaker 1: so everyone dismissed what he said. But what Nancy Pelosi 967 01:00:47,480 --> 01:00:50,240 Speaker 1: said was we need to impeach Donald Trump. And I said, 968 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:53,600 Speaker 1: I guess remove him or the twenty twenty election is 969 01:00:53,880 --> 01:00:56,280 Speaker 1: in danger. The integrity of the election is in danger. 970 01:00:56,400 --> 01:00:59,680 Speaker 1: She's already preemptively told us that Donald Trump runs and 971 01:00:59,760 --> 01:01:03,200 Speaker 1: way that the election will be, you know, not legitimate, 972 01:01:03,240 --> 01:01:07,640 Speaker 1: so legitimate. So every present election they loses a legitimate 973 01:01:07,640 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: in some way, of course, but now we're preemptively saying 974 01:01:10,120 --> 01:01:12,480 Speaker 1: it's going to be illegitimate. And I still don't understand 975 01:01:12,480 --> 01:01:16,920 Speaker 1: why it's corroding public trust and elections, which is what 976 01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:18,800 Speaker 1: Democrats have been doing for a pretty long time in 977 01:01:19,040 --> 01:01:23,840 Speaker 1: various ways. And I think it's it's it's a dangerous 978 01:01:23,840 --> 01:01:26,280 Speaker 1: thing to do, though not not that they'll care, But 979 01:01:27,280 --> 01:01:29,200 Speaker 1: so that's what it's about. I mean, I mean a 980 01:01:29,200 --> 01:01:30,720 Speaker 1: few things. First of all, we all know the name 981 01:01:30,760 --> 01:01:33,520 Speaker 1: of the whistleblower, and we know the Democrats are playing 982 01:01:33,560 --> 01:01:37,160 Speaker 1: games by clinging to the fig leaf that we don't know, 983 01:01:37,320 --> 01:01:39,600 Speaker 1: and the journals are running around playing dumb and it 984 01:01:39,640 --> 01:01:41,800 Speaker 1: does just prove what a dishonest sham this whole thing 985 01:01:41,840 --> 01:01:44,840 Speaker 1: isn't also what a joke I think mainstream journalism is. 986 01:01:44,880 --> 01:01:47,360 Speaker 1: But but I gotta tell you, David, I think it's 987 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:50,320 Speaker 1: going to be kind of hilarious when this Ukraine impeachment 988 01:01:50,360 --> 01:01:53,920 Speaker 1: thing kind of fizzles and then the House Democrats just 989 01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: go ahead and impeach Donald Trump anyway, based on a 990 01:01:57,840 --> 01:01:59,840 Speaker 1: laundry list of like we just really don't like him, 991 01:02:00,120 --> 01:02:02,600 Speaker 1: that's what's gonna happen. Yeah, you can have the obstruction 992 01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:04,440 Speaker 1: of justice is that you can put whatever you want. 993 01:02:04,960 --> 01:02:07,480 Speaker 1: Did nothing that really makes me laugh out loud. Yeah, man, 994 01:02:07,520 --> 01:02:11,880 Speaker 1: that's great. These congressmen talk about the Ukraine and like 995 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:15,280 Speaker 1: their voice cracks with emotion about how we're leaving our 996 01:02:15,320 --> 01:02:18,200 Speaker 1: friends and allies, you know, stranded, and the Russians are 997 01:02:18,240 --> 01:02:21,640 Speaker 1: coming and all of that stuff. They could not care 998 01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,080 Speaker 1: less about Ukraine. They didn't care about Ukraine when Obama 999 01:02:25,160 --> 01:02:27,960 Speaker 1: wasn't giving them lethal weaponry, when Obama was allowing them 1000 01:02:27,960 --> 01:02:31,280 Speaker 1: to the Russians to shoot down airplanes at you know, 1001 01:02:31,360 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 1: in the Crimea and all of that stuff. It's an 1002 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:36,960 Speaker 1: absolutely it's an absolute joke. It doesn't make anything right 1003 01:02:37,120 --> 01:02:39,400 Speaker 1: or wrong that's happening now, but it does show that 1004 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,800 Speaker 1: just the massive double standard and hypocrisy that's at work here. Well. Also, 1005 01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:46,160 Speaker 1: I think it's fascinating we have to keep hearing about 1006 01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:51,080 Speaker 1: the risk that Trump ran by delaying the aid that 1007 01:02:51,240 --> 01:02:55,120 Speaker 1: was delivered, because man, those Ukrainians really need those javelin 1008 01:02:55,160 --> 01:02:56,640 Speaker 1: missiles and I sit here, I just want to bang 1009 01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:58,200 Speaker 1: my head against wall. I'm like, right, the things that 1010 01:02:58,240 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: Obama wouldn't give them and took away from Poland and 1011 01:03:02,880 --> 01:03:05,800 Speaker 1: check Republic and things like that, Right, I mean this 1012 01:03:05,920 --> 01:03:08,320 Speaker 1: idea that Obama was tougher on Russia. I listen. I 1013 01:03:08,840 --> 01:03:11,640 Speaker 1: think that it's a complicated issue. But the idea that 1014 01:03:11,680 --> 01:03:14,560 Speaker 1: Obama was somehow tough on Russia and that Trump has 1015 01:03:14,640 --> 01:03:17,280 Speaker 1: given Putin away, you know, given Europe to Putin is 1016 01:03:17,680 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: is just only someone who's very silly or very you know, 1017 01:03:21,560 --> 01:03:23,960 Speaker 1: just ridiculous would say something I mean in Russia as well, 1018 01:03:23,960 --> 01:03:26,680 Speaker 1: like maybe a trillion dollar economy. I mean, this is 1019 01:03:26,720 --> 01:03:29,960 Speaker 1: not this is not the Soviet Union all over again too. 1020 01:03:30,200 --> 01:03:32,720 Speaker 1: I think that Russia looms so large in the minds 1021 01:03:32,720 --> 01:03:35,640 Speaker 1: of so many people now as this threat that's you know, 1022 01:03:35,800 --> 01:03:37,600 Speaker 1: check your closet and look under your bed before you 1023 01:03:37,640 --> 01:03:40,200 Speaker 1: go to sleep at night. I think Putin's a bad guy. 1024 01:03:40,600 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: I've been talking about, reading about and involved in, and 1025 01:03:43,240 --> 01:03:45,000 Speaker 1: going back to even my days in the government, like, 1026 01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,800 Speaker 1: I've been very aware of the bad stuff that a 1027 01:03:47,880 --> 01:03:51,280 Speaker 1: former KGB thug has been doing, stretching back to the 1028 01:03:51,480 --> 01:03:53,760 Speaker 1: fighting in Czechia. I mean, there's a lot of stuff, 1029 01:03:54,000 --> 01:03:57,440 Speaker 1: but it's not like Russia's about to invade us tomorrow 1030 01:03:57,560 --> 01:03:59,640 Speaker 1: and overturn our elections. Of all these things we hear 1031 01:03:59,600 --> 01:04:01,120 Speaker 1: all the time, and I just think that they do 1032 01:04:01,160 --> 01:04:04,680 Speaker 1: the public a disservice by creating what is a true hysteria. Now, 1033 01:04:04,720 --> 01:04:08,520 Speaker 1: I mean they really democrats now really believe that Russia 1034 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:13,320 Speaker 1: is a mortal adversary United States. That's actually not true. No, 1035 01:04:13,400 --> 01:04:15,840 Speaker 1: I mean we have different geopolitical Yeah, of course we 1036 01:04:15,880 --> 01:04:18,680 Speaker 1: have oppositional stuff with them, but right aims and stuff like, 1037 01:04:18,720 --> 01:04:21,280 Speaker 1: I mean, no one, no, no, no serious person wants 1038 01:04:21,280 --> 01:04:24,919 Speaker 1: to go to war with Russia over anything right now, right. 1039 01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,400 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's it's kind of a dangerous rhetoric 1040 01:04:28,520 --> 01:04:30,920 Speaker 1: that even when a Democrat becomes president is never going 1041 01:04:31,000 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 1: to follow through on. It's just it's just not reality. 1042 01:04:34,400 --> 01:04:36,880 Speaker 1: And I do love the history that created where I 1043 01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 1: you know, my my parents you know, defected to run 1044 01:04:40,280 --> 01:04:42,440 Speaker 1: away from the Soviet Union. But I get called like 1045 01:04:42,600 --> 01:04:46,360 Speaker 1: a Russian mole all the time, uh, you know, simply 1046 01:04:46,400 --> 01:04:49,400 Speaker 1: because I don't, you know, I defend Donald Trump. It's 1047 01:04:49,400 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: just such a ridiculous position to put people in and 1048 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:55,440 Speaker 1: the whole debate has been sort of co opted by 1049 01:04:55,680 --> 01:04:58,200 Speaker 1: ridiculous people like Max Boot or whatever, you know, who 1050 01:04:58,200 --> 01:05:00,720 Speaker 1: are just so over the top and so silly. We're 1051 01:05:01,000 --> 01:05:03,200 Speaker 1: gonna keep talking to to David. David Hole on one sec. 1052 01:05:03,240 --> 01:05:05,320 Speaker 1: Will come right back. All right, team, We've got David Harsani. 1053 01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:08,000 Speaker 1: Check out his piece. Nancy Pelosi is already attacking the 1054 01:05:08,040 --> 01:05:10,800 Speaker 1: legitimacy of the twenty twenty election. It's up on National 1055 01:05:10,880 --> 01:05:15,320 Speaker 1: view dot com. Now, m David, where where do you think? 1056 01:05:16,040 --> 01:05:17,600 Speaker 1: I also, I want to ask you about the the 1057 01:05:17,640 --> 01:05:21,320 Speaker 1: Democrat election. I'm sorry, the democrat um? What do you 1058 01:05:21,320 --> 01:05:23,480 Speaker 1: call it? When they argue with each other? Debate? Thank you? 1059 01:05:23,800 --> 01:05:26,640 Speaker 1: Oh that's happening tonight. That's not getting much attention. But first, 1060 01:05:26,680 --> 01:05:30,240 Speaker 1: just this impeachment thing. Where where do you see it 1061 01:05:30,360 --> 01:05:32,840 Speaker 1: heading at this point? Because I really just believe, I mean, 1062 01:05:32,880 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 1: I think the president I would bet a large sum 1063 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:35,960 Speaker 1: of money and I should find a place where I 1064 01:05:36,000 --> 01:05:38,120 Speaker 1: could probably do that. They're gonna peach the president, doesn't 1065 01:05:38,120 --> 01:05:43,440 Speaker 1: matter what anyone says. Yeah, I mean I can't. I 1066 01:05:43,480 --> 01:05:45,880 Speaker 1: can't imagine them backing out of that now and what 1067 01:05:46,040 --> 01:05:48,600 Speaker 1: that would cause within their you know, the ranks of 1068 01:05:48,880 --> 01:05:52,440 Speaker 1: democratic activists and party activists and stuff. So I just 1069 01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:54,880 Speaker 1: don't see how they don't move forward on that. So 1070 01:05:54,920 --> 01:05:59,160 Speaker 1: I think they'll impeach and I'm almost one hundred percent 1071 01:05:59,200 --> 01:06:01,360 Speaker 1: sure he won't be moved, and it's going to run 1072 01:06:01,400 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 1: for president and nothing really will change, and there might 1073 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:08,240 Speaker 1: be a slight I think there might be a slight 1074 01:06:08,280 --> 01:06:10,680 Speaker 1: backlash to all of this, and we'll see about that. 1075 01:06:10,800 --> 01:06:14,520 Speaker 1: But unless there's some new big piece of evidence that 1076 01:06:14,560 --> 01:06:17,560 Speaker 1: shows some kind of criminal wrongdoing, I just don't think 1077 01:06:17,600 --> 01:06:20,760 Speaker 1: this change as much at all. I meanwhile, we have gridlock, 1078 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:23,400 Speaker 1: which is my favorite form of government, so I'm pretty 1079 01:06:23,400 --> 01:06:26,080 Speaker 1: good with that. Yeah, it's amazing, isn't that while we're 1080 01:06:26,120 --> 01:06:29,760 Speaker 1: fighting about a phone call, an action that was not taken, 1081 01:06:30,040 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 1: that did not result in anything because there was no 1082 01:06:32,200 --> 01:06:35,120 Speaker 1: action in a country I don't eat what five thousand 1083 01:06:35,120 --> 01:06:36,760 Speaker 1: miles away or something. I don't even I don't even 1084 01:06:36,760 --> 01:06:40,600 Speaker 1: know what as the crow flies, tistancy Ukraine is, and meanwhile, 1085 01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:43,880 Speaker 1: the country is at a time of relative peace, an 1086 01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:46,800 Speaker 1: economy that is booming, on employment is super low. It's 1087 01:06:46,840 --> 01:06:48,600 Speaker 1: pretty amazing. What do you think about it? In that way? 1088 01:06:48,720 --> 01:06:51,560 Speaker 1: When you think about economic growth from twenty ten till now, 1089 01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:54,320 Speaker 1: it's been pretty great right on almost every way you 1090 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:57,760 Speaker 1: can measure. It's not perfect, obviously, and that those are 1091 01:06:57,760 --> 01:07:00,880 Speaker 1: the years of gridlock. Nothing is getting done in Washington 1092 01:07:01,000 --> 01:07:04,120 Speaker 1: except for some good Trump stuff like rolling back regulations 1093 01:07:04,160 --> 01:07:08,920 Speaker 1: and cutting some taxes, which I think helped this economy 1094 01:07:09,000 --> 01:07:12,880 Speaker 1: despite what liberals tell you, and is is something that 1095 01:07:13,960 --> 01:07:17,640 Speaker 1: that does you know, Trump has a Trump has less 1096 01:07:17,640 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 1: you know, headspace to make the economy growing, yet he's 1097 01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:21,400 Speaker 1: still done and gets no credit for it, and that 1098 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:23,760 Speaker 1: presidents get too much credit for the economy. But I 1099 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,600 Speaker 1: think Trump has been relatively good. Imagine if he didn't 1100 01:07:26,640 --> 01:07:28,760 Speaker 1: you know, engage in trade wars and stuff. But I 1101 01:07:28,760 --> 01:07:30,720 Speaker 1: don't want to argue about that right now. Yeah, No, 1102 01:07:30,840 --> 01:07:33,520 Speaker 1: I look, I think that by the way, my theory 1103 01:07:33,600 --> 01:07:35,720 Speaker 1: is that Trump maybe, if he needs to do in 1104 01:07:35,760 --> 01:07:37,920 Speaker 1: the election year, he said, let's just put this whole 1105 01:07:37,920 --> 01:07:40,120 Speaker 1: trade war thing on hold for a while. I think 1106 01:07:40,120 --> 01:07:42,800 Speaker 1: that whether that's you know, short term long term, I 1107 01:07:43,120 --> 01:07:45,440 Speaker 1: think that that would actually have a stimulative effect on 1108 01:07:45,440 --> 01:07:48,960 Speaker 1: the economy. I agree with that, though I do think 1109 01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:52,440 Speaker 1: that the whole standing up to China thing is something 1110 01:07:52,480 --> 01:07:55,040 Speaker 1: that really endears him to many of his most you know, 1111 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:57,240 Speaker 1: passionate supporters, But then again, most people will be there 1112 01:07:57,240 --> 01:07:59,040 Speaker 1: from no matter what he does. That's a good point. 1113 01:07:59,360 --> 01:08:01,320 Speaker 1: But I will say that, you know, we had Gordon 1114 01:08:01,360 --> 01:08:03,040 Speaker 1: Chang on and what was it yesterday and he says 1115 01:08:03,080 --> 01:08:05,840 Speaker 1: that it's amazing how the consensus has flipped now, at least, 1116 01:08:05,880 --> 01:08:07,480 Speaker 1: not not on whether the trade war is the right 1117 01:08:07,480 --> 01:08:09,000 Speaker 1: thing or not, or good for the economy or not, 1118 01:08:09,080 --> 01:08:12,120 Speaker 1: but the consensus about China is a problem. Everybody now 1119 01:08:12,240 --> 01:08:14,400 Speaker 1: is saying, oh, yeah, China actually was doing really bad 1120 01:08:14,400 --> 01:08:18,360 Speaker 1: stuff at administrations before Trump weren't doing anything about it. Yeah, 1121 01:08:18,400 --> 01:08:20,080 Speaker 1: I think, I mean, I think I can agree that 1122 01:08:20,160 --> 01:08:22,479 Speaker 1: China was doing bad stuff, but I'm generally, you know, 1123 01:08:22,640 --> 01:08:25,280 Speaker 1: very I know you're a free trade but you're a 1124 01:08:25,320 --> 01:08:29,320 Speaker 1: consistent fellow. But I will admit that, you know, it 1125 01:08:29,360 --> 01:08:31,439 Speaker 1: hasn't really had the negative effect. It seems to me, 1126 01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:32,880 Speaker 1: at least that I thought it would. So I think 1127 01:08:32,880 --> 01:08:35,240 Speaker 1: that's that's something I need to concede. Um, we we 1128 01:08:35,280 --> 01:08:37,200 Speaker 1: have to, we gotta. I know, David, you probably have 1129 01:08:37,200 --> 01:08:38,479 Speaker 1: a life you have to leave. We're gonna keep you 1130 01:08:38,479 --> 01:08:40,439 Speaker 1: because we're going to ask you about the elect I 1131 01:08:40,520 --> 01:08:44,040 Speaker 1: keep saying election. I'm sorry about the debate, the debate 1132 01:08:44,160 --> 01:08:47,360 Speaker 1: that is going to happen tonight, and also a little 1133 01:08:47,400 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 1: bit of what you see coming up in conservative circles 1134 01:08:50,600 --> 01:08:53,599 Speaker 1: about capitalism. I don't know if it's if it's a 1135 01:08:53,640 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: capitalism or a heart that we're talking about here, or 1136 01:08:55,800 --> 01:08:58,280 Speaker 1: a capitalism that that brings out the best in people, 1137 01:08:58,280 --> 01:09:01,360 Speaker 1: but there would be some There's been some interesting discussions 1138 01:09:01,400 --> 01:09:03,599 Speaker 1: going on there. We're talking to David Harsani. Everybody National 1139 01:09:03,600 --> 01:09:06,439 Speaker 1: Review dot com check out his piece. Nancy Pelosi is 1140 01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:10,880 Speaker 1: already attacking the legitimacy of the twenty twenty election. And 1141 01:09:11,400 --> 01:09:12,880 Speaker 1: we're back in just a second here, all right, So 1142 01:09:12,880 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 1: it's kind of Harsagny pelooza today all the buck Sextit show. 1143 01:09:16,160 --> 01:09:18,080 Speaker 1: But we haven't talked to David Harsani in awhile he's 1144 01:09:18,160 --> 01:09:20,360 Speaker 1: National Review senior writer. I want to get your take, 1145 01:09:20,640 --> 01:09:22,439 Speaker 1: and then I'll just tell the audience what I'm what 1146 01:09:22,560 --> 01:09:24,519 Speaker 1: I'm thinking after we let you go and enjoy your 1147 01:09:24,560 --> 01:09:26,360 Speaker 1: coffee and hang out the rest of the day. What 1148 01:09:26,439 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 1: are you expecting here for the Democrat debate tonight? I mean, 1149 01:09:30,360 --> 01:09:32,160 Speaker 1: the big story as I see it right now, is 1150 01:09:32,400 --> 01:09:34,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Buddha Judge is like, it's like 1151 01:09:34,360 --> 01:09:36,400 Speaker 1: a thing. Bouddha Judge is actually getting some traction in 1152 01:09:36,439 --> 01:09:40,080 Speaker 1: places where people have to pay attention. Yeah, I think so. 1153 01:09:40,280 --> 01:09:43,000 Speaker 1: But I think that that's also because a manifestation of 1154 01:09:43,040 --> 01:09:47,000 Speaker 1: concern within the Democratic Party about their candidates. They're looking 1155 01:09:47,000 --> 01:09:49,439 Speaker 1: for someone a little more moderate. Who isn't you know 1156 01:09:49,479 --> 01:09:51,759 Speaker 1: over seventy I guess, or isn't you know? It doesn't 1157 01:09:51,760 --> 01:09:54,559 Speaker 1: have all the faults of a long history. But the 1158 01:09:54,560 --> 01:09:56,840 Speaker 1: thing is, no one really knows Mayor Pete very well. 1159 01:09:56,840 --> 01:10:00,840 Speaker 1: And I think once you start pointing out his problems, 1160 01:10:00,240 --> 01:10:03,400 Speaker 1: his city is not in great shape. His city, you know, 1161 01:10:03,680 --> 01:10:05,519 Speaker 1: there have been a lot of problems there with race 1162 01:10:05,560 --> 01:10:08,000 Speaker 1: and other stuff. So a really high murder rate. But 1163 01:10:08,200 --> 01:10:10,120 Speaker 1: you know, I have a we're on a great station 1164 01:10:10,800 --> 01:10:16,040 Speaker 1: out in Indiana, and I talked to some folks when 1165 01:10:16,040 --> 01:10:19,280 Speaker 1: I was out there recently for a visit, and I 1166 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:21,200 Speaker 1: gotta tell you, I was like shocked to hear that 1167 01:10:21,280 --> 01:10:24,400 Speaker 1: South Bend, Indiana has a really high murder rate per capita, 1168 01:10:24,680 --> 01:10:27,760 Speaker 1: right right, and the Pats some shootings where you know, 1169 01:10:27,960 --> 01:10:30,840 Speaker 1: police shootings that are problematic, et cetera, et cetera. Now, 1170 01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:35,120 Speaker 1: those are things Democrat Democratic voters care about. So I'm 1171 01:10:35,160 --> 01:10:37,400 Speaker 1: not sure that this kind of popularity will last. But 1172 01:10:37,439 --> 01:10:39,799 Speaker 1: maybe he will withstand it and be wonderful and move forward. 1173 01:10:39,840 --> 01:10:42,400 Speaker 1: I don't know. We'll see about that. I tend to 1174 01:10:42,439 --> 01:10:45,440 Speaker 1: think he's overrated. I find him to be a sanctimonious 1175 01:10:45,439 --> 01:10:47,280 Speaker 1: and annoying but you know, I don't really have my 1176 01:10:47,400 --> 01:10:49,120 Speaker 1: pulse on me. Well, I think you're right about the 1177 01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,880 Speaker 1: sanctimonious thing. Especially when he's lecturing people on theology. I 1178 01:10:51,880 --> 01:10:54,280 Speaker 1: find that that really can't take it. I can't, I 1179 01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:57,160 Speaker 1: can't take any handle it. He is really smug on 1180 01:10:57,479 --> 01:10:59,759 Speaker 1: that stuff, and a lot of time, no, he's getting 1181 01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:02,240 Speaker 1: way beyond is knowledge based on that stuff. But I 1182 01:11:02,600 --> 01:11:05,920 Speaker 1: wanted to sort of touch on how it seems that 1183 01:11:06,000 --> 01:11:09,000 Speaker 1: the Democratic Party now more than ever, and this is 1184 01:11:09,280 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 1: mostly through the prism of Warren and Berney's candidacies, but 1185 01:11:13,640 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 1: it seems like there's just not just an open embrace 1186 01:11:16,280 --> 01:11:22,040 Speaker 1: of socialism, but trashing capitalism in the most cynical and 1187 01:11:22,160 --> 01:11:25,920 Speaker 1: ignorant way is really popular among the Democrats these days. 1188 01:11:26,760 --> 01:11:29,479 Speaker 1: It is, and unfortunately, I think it's getting to be 1189 01:11:29,520 --> 01:11:32,479 Speaker 1: popular among some conservatives as well. I think what you 1190 01:11:32,600 --> 01:11:37,120 Speaker 1: have is you know, so much success people have been afforded, 1191 01:11:37,160 --> 01:11:39,679 Speaker 1: so many freedoms and so many great things, that maybe 1192 01:11:39,680 --> 01:11:43,160 Speaker 1: new generations don't put that success into the context it's 1193 01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:46,120 Speaker 1: supposed to be in. And so I worry about that. 1194 01:11:46,160 --> 01:11:48,640 Speaker 1: Though I have to say I'm slightly heartened that the 1195 01:11:48,680 --> 01:11:51,439 Speaker 1: Democratic Party sort of moved away from a Warren pretty 1196 01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:55,479 Speaker 1: quick quickly once she embraced, you know, really big socialistic plans. 1197 01:11:55,520 --> 01:11:57,920 Speaker 1: I think that there's still, I hope, at least a 1198 01:11:58,080 --> 01:12:01,839 Speaker 1: moderate center that doesn't want to fully you know, embrace 1199 01:12:01,920 --> 01:12:06,599 Speaker 1: that those sorts of ideas collectivist ideas or socialistic ideas, um. 1200 01:12:06,640 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 1: But unfortunately, I think when you look at polling, young 1201 01:12:08,840 --> 01:12:11,160 Speaker 1: people are always more open to those ideas, and that's 1202 01:12:11,280 --> 01:12:12,760 Speaker 1: that's that's you know. I think there are a bunch 1203 01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,559 Speaker 1: of reasons I won't get into, but I think that 1204 01:12:14,560 --> 01:12:17,720 Speaker 1: that's incredibly dangerous for us moving forward. Maybe the most 1205 01:12:17,800 --> 01:12:19,680 Speaker 1: dangerous I've been saying. And you know, of course, you 1206 01:12:19,680 --> 01:12:22,840 Speaker 1: should always be what one should always be careful with 1207 01:12:23,680 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 1: predictions that rely the predictions of a political nature where 1208 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:31,760 Speaker 1: you're certain. But I've just I just cannot fathom a 1209 01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:35,400 Speaker 1: future in which Joe Biden is actually the audience is 1210 01:12:35,400 --> 01:12:36,720 Speaker 1: sick of me saying is I'm like, it's not going 1211 01:12:36,800 --> 01:12:39,200 Speaker 1: to be Biden again? Are you do you do you 1212 01:12:39,240 --> 01:12:40,720 Speaker 1: really do you think it could be Biden? I mean, 1213 01:12:40,760 --> 01:12:43,800 Speaker 1: am I am? I am? I talking crazy talk. Let 1214 01:12:43,800 --> 01:12:47,080 Speaker 1: me ask you this. When Donald Trump was writing initially, 1215 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:51,280 Speaker 1: did you think he could win? No? No, absolutely not. 1216 01:12:51,360 --> 01:12:53,880 Speaker 1: I was sure he would not win. I mean, I've 1217 01:12:54,160 --> 01:12:57,200 Speaker 1: had to admit that many times. So me too, until 1218 01:12:57,320 --> 01:12:59,880 Speaker 1: the last moment, until I saw that, until I saw 1219 01:13:00,040 --> 01:13:02,840 Speaker 1: at New York Times page with the little you know, 1220 01:13:02,920 --> 01:13:05,559 Speaker 1: lever going up. But when he won Florida, it was 1221 01:13:05,600 --> 01:13:08,120 Speaker 1: like the entire world all of a sudden change. But yeah, 1222 01:13:08,160 --> 01:13:11,640 Speaker 1: everything changed forever. But um, but here's the thing that 1223 01:13:12,240 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 1: I think a similar thing can happen here where you 1224 01:13:14,280 --> 01:13:16,400 Speaker 1: have a bunch of you have a right left divide 1225 01:13:16,840 --> 01:13:19,760 Speaker 1: and people are sort of knocking each other out and 1226 01:13:19,880 --> 01:13:22,400 Speaker 1: if no one else sort of an outside or candidate, 1227 01:13:22,400 --> 01:13:25,240 Speaker 1: And I doubt there's anything like that available Michael Bloomberg whatever. 1228 01:13:25,280 --> 01:13:27,160 Speaker 1: I don't think that he has that kind of appeal. 1229 01:13:27,520 --> 01:13:30,320 Speaker 1: I think I just don't see why the Democrats wouldn't 1230 01:13:30,400 --> 01:13:32,840 Speaker 1: land on what they think is the surest bet to 1231 01:13:32,840 --> 01:13:36,000 Speaker 1: win which would be Joe Biden. I think they overrate 1232 01:13:36,120 --> 01:13:38,800 Speaker 1: him as a politician because before Obama saved him, I mean, 1233 01:13:38,800 --> 01:13:41,960 Speaker 1: he was the Delaware senator. He wasn't He's lost time. 1234 01:13:42,400 --> 01:13:43,880 Speaker 1: How many times says he run for president two or 1235 01:13:43,920 --> 01:13:46,160 Speaker 1: three times. He's never been successful. I think he got 1236 01:13:46,200 --> 01:13:50,000 Speaker 1: like like two or three percent of the voting when 1237 01:13:50,000 --> 01:13:52,000 Speaker 1: he ran before. I mean he was I remember going 1238 01:13:52,000 --> 01:13:54,479 Speaker 1: to see him speak in DC maybe in two thousand 1239 01:13:54,520 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 1: and seven or two thousand and eight, you know, and 1240 01:13:57,040 --> 01:14:01,120 Speaker 1: and that, and he was the he was there with 1241 01:14:01,160 --> 01:14:03,599 Speaker 1: like cous he was like in Cucinach territory. It was like, oh, 1242 01:14:03,640 --> 01:14:07,559 Speaker 1: he's one of the kind of also ran joke presidential candidates, right. 1243 01:14:07,600 --> 01:14:10,720 Speaker 1: I mean he Obama picked him too, because he has 1244 01:14:10,760 --> 01:14:13,000 Speaker 1: been around for a long time, and you know, he 1245 01:14:13,040 --> 01:14:14,920 Speaker 1: has a sort of are of white working you know 1246 01:14:14,920 --> 01:14:17,719 Speaker 1: that he appeals to the white working class, regular normal 1247 01:14:17,840 --> 01:14:20,240 Speaker 1: Joe and all of that stuff. But he's not a 1248 01:14:20,240 --> 01:14:22,960 Speaker 1: particular He's never been a particularly good politicians. He said 1249 01:14:23,160 --> 01:14:26,519 Speaker 1: a politician, he said crazy things throughout his entire career. 1250 01:14:26,880 --> 01:14:28,960 Speaker 1: And no, we might not care about that anymore. But 1251 01:14:29,000 --> 01:14:32,240 Speaker 1: it's it's it's it's it's a fact. So um, I 1252 01:14:32,280 --> 01:14:35,240 Speaker 1: don't know. I think that he might win, but I 1253 01:14:35,280 --> 01:14:37,280 Speaker 1: don't know that. I don't know that he's a shoe in. 1254 01:14:37,400 --> 01:14:38,800 Speaker 1: I mean a lot of people think, you know, the 1255 01:14:38,840 --> 01:14:41,000 Speaker 1: Democrats are just going to roll over Trump. I just don't. 1256 01:14:41,760 --> 01:14:44,200 Speaker 1: I can't say that. After the last election, I just 1257 01:14:44,280 --> 01:14:46,760 Speaker 1: don't believe that it's true anymore. But I don't know why. 1258 01:14:46,800 --> 01:14:48,200 Speaker 1: Who do you think? Who do you think could win? 1259 01:14:48,240 --> 01:14:51,400 Speaker 1: Other than Biden. I feel like I still think that 1260 01:14:51,439 --> 01:14:54,600 Speaker 1: they're gonna they'll go with Warren. I think that they'll 1261 01:14:54,640 --> 01:14:59,760 Speaker 1: excuse her ridiculous lack of policy math, and I think 1262 01:14:59,800 --> 01:15:02,519 Speaker 1: that Elizabeth Warren gives them. They feel like it's a 1263 01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:05,040 Speaker 1: cross between. You get a little bit of Biden, a 1264 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:06,799 Speaker 1: little bit of Burnie, and a little bit of Hillary 1265 01:15:06,840 --> 01:15:10,800 Speaker 1: all in one package. She really really hurt herself, right, 1266 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,479 Speaker 1: just fully jumping all in on the Medicare for all 1267 01:15:13,560 --> 01:15:16,080 Speaker 1: with a plan and everything else. It's like Obama. I 1268 01:15:16,120 --> 01:15:18,080 Speaker 1: don't know if people remember, but he was he was 1269 01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:22,800 Speaker 1: in for he was in for socialized medicine right initially, right, 1270 01:15:22,840 --> 01:15:24,200 Speaker 1: I think, and then he you know, he was able 1271 01:15:24,280 --> 01:15:27,120 Speaker 1: to you know, massage those things and change his mind 1272 01:15:27,160 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 1: and this and that. But once you have plans on 1273 01:15:28,960 --> 01:15:31,559 Speaker 1: the book, and once you've taken this stand and you've 1274 01:15:31,560 --> 01:15:33,400 Speaker 1: even explained how you're gonna pay for it, et cetera. 1275 01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,280 Speaker 1: Just seems like a really hard position to to sort 1276 01:15:36,280 --> 01:15:39,800 Speaker 1: of moderate yourself on. And do you are you gonna 1277 01:15:39,800 --> 01:15:41,120 Speaker 1: watch the whole thing, by the way, And also do 1278 01:15:41,120 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 1: you think that the debate at this stage even doesn't matter? 1279 01:15:44,160 --> 01:15:46,080 Speaker 1: I am one hundred percent not going to watch the 1280 01:15:46,120 --> 01:15:48,639 Speaker 1: debate at all. I would at all. I'm done. I've 1281 01:15:48,640 --> 01:15:50,120 Speaker 1: seen how many debates have they had her? I mean, 1282 01:15:50,160 --> 01:15:52,080 Speaker 1: they still have ten candidates up there. It's a waste 1283 01:15:52,120 --> 01:15:54,439 Speaker 1: of time, isn't it. I think it's too much. I 1284 01:15:54,439 --> 01:15:55,960 Speaker 1: mean I have to because I got to do the show, 1285 01:15:56,000 --> 01:15:58,120 Speaker 1: and you know, I watch it so that my audience 1286 01:15:58,160 --> 01:16:00,200 Speaker 1: doesn't have to. But like if I were to my 1287 01:16:00,240 --> 01:16:02,439 Speaker 1: own devices, no, I already know what all these people 1288 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:04,320 Speaker 1: think about everything, because I've seen them for hours and 1289 01:16:04,320 --> 01:16:06,320 Speaker 1: hours and hours, and I've read the transcripts after I've 1290 01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:09,000 Speaker 1: watched it. It's annoying. Since the second debate, I'm like, 1291 01:16:09,040 --> 01:16:11,000 Speaker 1: I'm never watching and them sitting here and I will 1292 01:16:11,040 --> 01:16:12,920 Speaker 1: probably end up watching some of it. But here's the thing, 1293 01:16:13,080 --> 01:16:16,679 Speaker 1: I don't think these debates matter that much. The last 1294 01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 1: big moment of the only really big moment was Tulsi 1295 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:22,800 Speaker 1: taking out Kamala Harris, right, and I don't know that 1296 01:16:22,840 --> 01:16:25,559 Speaker 1: there'll be another moment like that. So why do you 1297 01:16:25,560 --> 01:16:27,439 Speaker 1: think they hate Tulsa so much? By the way, because 1298 01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:29,960 Speaker 1: you know she has some she's very left wing, but 1299 01:16:30,040 --> 01:16:33,200 Speaker 1: conservatives like myself are kind of like I kind of 1300 01:16:33,240 --> 01:16:34,960 Speaker 1: like Tulsie. Even though I think she's bad on a 1301 01:16:35,000 --> 01:16:37,280 Speaker 1: lot of policy issues. She doesn't strike me as a 1302 01:16:37,280 --> 01:16:40,719 Speaker 1: as an odious person. Why the why does the liberal 1303 01:16:40,840 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 1: establishment really, even not just the farm, Why do they 1304 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,559 Speaker 1: hate her so much? That's a good question. I mean, 1305 01:16:45,560 --> 01:16:48,240 Speaker 1: I think that she is compelling in a way, and 1306 01:16:48,800 --> 01:16:52,320 Speaker 1: you know, her foreign policy views seemed not far removed 1307 01:16:52,360 --> 01:16:55,080 Speaker 1: from what they used to be during the Bush administration 1308 01:16:55,120 --> 01:16:56,639 Speaker 1: on the left and so on. So I don't really 1309 01:16:56,680 --> 01:17:01,800 Speaker 1: understand why they're so you know, so the I hate 1310 01:17:01,800 --> 01:17:03,559 Speaker 1: her so much? My only thought is that they don't 1311 01:17:03,560 --> 01:17:05,160 Speaker 1: think she has a chance, and they feel like she's 1312 01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,400 Speaker 1: hurt people's chances. Who whoever it is that she's just 1313 01:17:08,400 --> 01:17:11,599 Speaker 1: playing spoiler maybe yeah, yeah, she's just not mean enough. 1314 01:17:11,880 --> 01:17:15,439 Speaker 1: She's a Russian asset, so yeah, I really think it's 1315 01:17:15,479 --> 01:17:18,400 Speaker 1: that she doesn't She doesn't view her her role in 1316 01:17:18,479 --> 01:17:21,640 Speaker 1: politics as trying to find I like to storm the 1317 01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,519 Speaker 1: Republican castle overrun it in Bayonett all the survivors like 1318 01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:27,400 Speaker 1: that's That's another thing. She doesn't have orthodox views, right, 1319 01:17:27,479 --> 01:17:30,200 Speaker 1: she was a little more socially conservative. She's willing to 1320 01:17:30,240 --> 01:17:33,280 Speaker 1: say maybe we should impeach the president initially. She's willing 1321 01:17:33,320 --> 01:17:35,640 Speaker 1: to say things I think that the great against the 1322 01:17:35,760 --> 01:17:39,400 Speaker 1: orthodoxy of the Democratic Party. So maybe it's something like that. 1323 01:17:39,439 --> 01:17:41,240 Speaker 1: I don't know. I find her appealing in many ways. 1324 01:17:41,320 --> 01:17:45,160 Speaker 1: She's smart and telegenic and you know, and I think 1325 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,800 Speaker 1: that she thinks through her beliefs and all of that. 1326 01:17:47,880 --> 01:17:50,960 Speaker 1: She's a I mean, you know, she serves everything. It 1327 01:17:50,960 --> 01:17:52,400 Speaker 1: seems to me like she would be the kind of 1328 01:17:52,439 --> 01:17:55,280 Speaker 1: candidate that I that you should be excited about if 1329 01:17:55,320 --> 01:17:57,080 Speaker 1: they're in your party. I would think so too. But 1330 01:17:57,200 --> 01:17:59,720 Speaker 1: every time I defend Tulsi, people say that, you know, 1331 01:18:00,320 --> 01:18:02,960 Speaker 1: I just like Tulsi because I remember her visiting a 1332 01:18:03,080 --> 01:18:05,360 Speaker 1: side and stuff like that, and to me, you know, 1333 01:18:05,400 --> 01:18:08,000 Speaker 1: it's hard to get over that stuff, no matter what 1334 01:18:08,040 --> 01:18:11,720 Speaker 1: her excuses were. So so for that reason, I don't 1335 01:18:11,720 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 1: really like her, but I think her realist torn policy 1336 01:18:14,560 --> 01:18:16,720 Speaker 1: and stuff like that is actually pretty popular these days, 1337 01:18:16,720 --> 01:18:19,360 Speaker 1: so I don't really get it. Yep, all right, everybody, 1338 01:18:19,400 --> 01:18:21,680 Speaker 1: David Harsany, David, thanks for giving us so much time. Man. 1339 01:18:21,760 --> 01:18:24,200 Speaker 1: Check out his latest National Review dot com and we'll 1340 01:18:24,240 --> 01:18:26,400 Speaker 1: talk to you soon anytime. Thank you for The House 1341 01:18:26,520 --> 01:18:28,040 Speaker 1: is going to do what the House is going to do, 1342 01:18:28,240 --> 01:18:32,080 Speaker 1: and when they get through, as you all know, it 1343 01:18:32,080 --> 01:18:35,880 Speaker 1: comes over here, displaces all the business and we'll be 1344 01:18:35,920 --> 01:18:39,960 Speaker 1: on it until her senators decide it's time to reach 1345 01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:43,639 Speaker 1: a conclusion. I will repeat what I've said in the past. 1346 01:18:44,120 --> 01:18:46,960 Speaker 1: It's inconceivable to me that it'd be sixty seven votes 1347 01:18:47,920 --> 01:18:52,439 Speaker 1: to remove the president from office. Inconceivable to me too. 1348 01:18:52,479 --> 01:18:55,360 Speaker 1: But Cocaine Mitch, don't plays, you know, Cocaine Mitch is 1349 01:18:55,400 --> 01:18:58,400 Speaker 1: gonna be the one that oversees that whole thing. I 1350 01:18:58,439 --> 01:19:01,080 Speaker 1: am a little bit frustrated though, and some others have 1351 01:19:01,200 --> 01:19:05,040 Speaker 1: started to point this out as well. Why is it 1352 01:19:05,120 --> 01:19:12,519 Speaker 1: the case that the Senate Republicans aren't you know, Senate 1353 01:19:12,600 --> 01:19:17,280 Speaker 1: Republican of a majority that for example, runs the uh, 1354 01:19:18,120 --> 01:19:20,479 Speaker 1: you know, senatece Luck Committee on Intelligence. Why aren't they 1355 01:19:20,520 --> 01:19:24,840 Speaker 1: calling witnesses. You know, you gotta if the Democrats are 1356 01:19:24,840 --> 01:19:28,840 Speaker 1: going to abuse the process, you have to use the 1357 01:19:28,920 --> 01:19:31,360 Speaker 1: process to beat them back. You know, you gotta fight 1358 01:19:31,479 --> 01:19:36,400 Speaker 1: fire with fire here, and you know, having Devin Nunez say, oh, 1359 01:19:36,479 --> 01:19:37,920 Speaker 1: but you know, we want to enter into the record 1360 01:19:37,960 --> 01:19:39,439 Speaker 1: that these are the witnesses we'd want to have. I 1361 01:19:39,479 --> 01:19:41,160 Speaker 1: get it. I mean, I'm not saying he shouldn't do that, 1362 01:19:41,200 --> 01:19:44,640 Speaker 1: but that's not sufficient. Obviously, where's the Senate on this? 1363 01:19:45,880 --> 01:19:50,000 Speaker 1: Where are the where's the testimony under oath from Chloopa 1364 01:19:50,200 --> 01:19:56,280 Speaker 1: and Hunter Biden and other DNC tied officials, other people 1365 01:19:56,320 --> 01:19:58,840 Speaker 1: that might have some interesting things to say about all 1366 01:19:58,920 --> 01:20:03,280 Speaker 1: this stuff. Just just wondering when that's going to happen. 1367 01:20:03,439 --> 01:20:09,080 Speaker 1: I think Republicans, unfortunately, still don't really fully comprehend. A 1368 01:20:09,120 --> 01:20:12,200 Speaker 1: lot of elected Republicans don't really fully comprehend the nature 1369 01:20:12,439 --> 01:20:15,160 Speaker 1: of the left and what they're willing to do. I 1370 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,559 Speaker 1: think they see it, but they haven't really absorbed. They 1371 01:20:17,600 --> 01:20:21,720 Speaker 1: haven't really internalized the lengths that the Democrat left will 1372 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:25,479 Speaker 1: go to to destroy them and the games that they 1373 01:20:25,479 --> 01:20:29,640 Speaker 1: are willing to play in that whole process. But we 1374 01:20:29,640 --> 01:20:33,559 Speaker 1: shall have to see. By the way Trump had some 1375 01:20:33,600 --> 01:20:38,599 Speaker 1: things to say about Ambassador Kent that I wanted to play. 1376 01:20:38,640 --> 01:20:41,840 Speaker 1: Would you, producer, Bark, would you play fourteen please? I 1377 01:20:41,880 --> 01:20:44,920 Speaker 1: don't know Vinman. I never heard of him. I don't 1378 01:20:44,960 --> 01:20:49,320 Speaker 1: know any of these people other than I have seen 1379 01:20:49,600 --> 01:20:52,640 Speaker 1: one or two a couple of times. They're ambassadors. But 1380 01:20:52,760 --> 01:20:56,080 Speaker 1: these are names that are taught, like Taylor, like Kent 1381 01:20:56,240 --> 01:20:58,400 Speaker 1: with a nice boat tie, wonderful boat time. Maybe I'll 1382 01:20:58,439 --> 01:21:01,439 Speaker 1: get work for myself someday. I don't know who Kent is. 1383 01:21:01,920 --> 01:21:07,200 Speaker 1: I don't know who Taylor is yet. Yesterday Vinman said 1384 01:21:07,240 --> 01:21:10,080 Speaker 1: that he was the President's senior. We didn't do much 1385 01:21:10,120 --> 01:21:12,439 Speaker 1: Vinman today because that was yesterday, and we had Sonlon 1386 01:21:12,560 --> 01:21:15,040 Speaker 1: this morning, and you know, this is the you know, 1387 01:21:15,080 --> 01:21:17,720 Speaker 1: impeachment marathon that we're stuck in the middle of. But 1388 01:21:18,120 --> 01:21:21,559 Speaker 1: Vinman had some Vinman did not do well yesterday. I didn't. 1389 01:21:21,560 --> 01:21:23,320 Speaker 1: I wanted to just return to this for a moment 1390 01:21:23,360 --> 01:21:26,799 Speaker 1: to give you my sense of what happened here. Vinman 1391 01:21:26,920 --> 01:21:30,479 Speaker 1: was not a strong witness for the Democrat, cause he 1392 01:21:30,560 --> 01:21:33,679 Speaker 1: was trying to be. He's clearly a partisan. But when 1393 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:38,840 Speaker 1: Vinman was up there there were some moments that did 1394 01:21:38,880 --> 01:21:40,719 Speaker 1: not look good for him. And one of the most 1395 01:21:40,760 --> 01:21:45,160 Speaker 1: important had to do with Well, first of all, there's 1396 01:21:45,160 --> 01:21:50,799 Speaker 1: a lot of sanctimonious stuff, like here is Colonel Vinman 1397 01:21:51,200 --> 01:21:54,479 Speaker 1: claiming that he is not a never Trump or play sixteen. 1398 01:21:54,520 --> 01:21:57,200 Speaker 1: Lieutenant Colonel. By the way, the day after you appeared 1399 01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:00,519 Speaker 1: for your deposition, Lieutenant Colonel President I called you a 1400 01:22:00,560 --> 01:22:03,280 Speaker 1: never trumper. Colonel Vinman, would you call yourself a never 1401 01:22:03,320 --> 01:22:09,799 Speaker 1: Trumper representative? I'd call myself never partisan, never partisan. Interesting, 1402 01:22:09,800 --> 01:22:11,559 Speaker 1: he's a registered Democrat, by the way, Is that a 1403 01:22:11,600 --> 01:22:16,960 Speaker 1: surprise to you public records guys? A registered Democrat? That 1404 01:22:17,040 --> 01:22:22,280 Speaker 1: a surprise to anybody? Oh no, you mean you kind 1405 01:22:22,280 --> 01:22:24,719 Speaker 1: of knew this guy's a Democrat all along? Oh wow, 1406 01:22:25,479 --> 01:22:30,719 Speaker 1: isn't that crazy? Not just just crazy? Some other stuff 1407 01:22:30,720 --> 01:22:33,599 Speaker 1: that came up about mister Vinman. Jim Jordan, for example, 1408 01:22:34,400 --> 01:22:37,960 Speaker 1: pointed out that there were people, some very squared away, 1409 01:22:38,320 --> 01:22:44,879 Speaker 1: very seasoned national security experts, who felt, like this Vinman guy, 1410 01:22:45,439 --> 01:22:50,519 Speaker 1: there were some issues there. Fifteen. Please, your boss had 1411 01:22:50,560 --> 01:22:52,960 Speaker 1: concerns about your judgment. Your former boss, doctor Hill had 1412 01:22:53,000 --> 01:22:56,040 Speaker 1: concerns about your judgment. Your colleagues had concerns about your judgment. 1413 01:22:56,240 --> 01:22:58,400 Speaker 1: And your colleagues felt that there were times when you 1414 01:22:58,479 --> 01:23:04,720 Speaker 1: leaked information. Any idea why they have those impressions, Colonel Denman, Yes, 1415 01:23:04,920 --> 01:23:10,559 Speaker 1: Representative Jordan. I guess I'll start by reading doctor Hill's 1416 01:23:10,600 --> 01:23:15,000 Speaker 1: own words, as she she attested to in my last 1417 01:23:15,000 --> 01:23:18,080 Speaker 1: evaluation that was dated middle of July, right before she left. 1418 01:23:18,640 --> 01:23:21,160 Speaker 1: Alex is a top one percent military officer and the 1419 01:23:21,200 --> 01:23:23,679 Speaker 1: best army officer I've worked with in my fifteen years 1420 01:23:23,680 --> 01:23:27,400 Speaker 1: of government service. It's like, I'm amazing, I'm a never 1421 01:23:27,479 --> 01:23:30,679 Speaker 1: part I'm never part of in call me lieutenant, colonel 1422 01:23:30,760 --> 01:23:34,120 Speaker 1: or else. This guy MM did not did not do 1423 01:23:34,200 --> 01:23:37,200 Speaker 1: himself a lot, a lot of favors in the in 1424 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,720 Speaker 1: the presentation that the Democrats were trying to put on yesterday, 1425 01:23:41,960 --> 01:23:44,080 Speaker 1: and the worst part for him was actually, I don't 1426 01:23:44,120 --> 01:23:45,599 Speaker 1: I don't even know if we have this clip. I'll 1427 01:23:45,600 --> 01:23:49,200 Speaker 1: just tell you what happened. When he was asked about 1428 01:23:49,600 --> 01:23:55,120 Speaker 1: who he talked to who he talked to after the 1429 01:23:55,200 --> 01:24:00,519 Speaker 1: phone call between Trump and Zelenski, he said, oh, well, 1430 01:24:00,560 --> 01:24:02,960 Speaker 1: I didn't tell my EMI. I didn't tell my superior 1431 01:24:04,040 --> 01:24:06,439 Speaker 1: because I was so busy. And then Jim Jordan pushed 1432 01:24:06,479 --> 01:24:09,160 Speaker 1: him more and got him to admit, well, you didn't 1433 01:24:09,160 --> 01:24:13,680 Speaker 1: talk to your superior officer. But you did go to 1434 01:24:13,720 --> 01:24:16,840 Speaker 1: see a lawyer, and I see lawyer who believes it brother, 1435 01:24:17,560 --> 01:24:20,519 Speaker 1: And you also did go to see a person that 1436 01:24:20,560 --> 01:24:23,200 Speaker 1: the Democrats claim we can't know who it is because 1437 01:24:23,560 --> 01:24:25,879 Speaker 1: we're all supposed to pretend we're a bunch of idiots 1438 01:24:26,200 --> 01:24:29,439 Speaker 1: and don't know that. The other person he told is 1439 01:24:29,479 --> 01:24:33,200 Speaker 1: the whistleblower, and the whistleblower's name, from what we are 1440 01:24:33,280 --> 01:24:36,240 Speaker 1: told is Eric Charamela, who was working at the NSC 1441 01:24:36,680 --> 01:24:39,679 Speaker 1: and who loves Biden and is a leftist and hates Trump. 1442 01:24:40,640 --> 01:24:43,080 Speaker 1: This is like the reality of the world that we're in. 1443 01:24:43,439 --> 01:24:46,120 Speaker 1: But it is to be denied, it is to be obscure, 1444 01:24:46,280 --> 01:24:53,559 Speaker 1: to be pushed aside in favor of this nonsense. It's 1445 01:24:53,640 --> 01:25:00,240 Speaker 1: just bizarro crazy town stuff that we were supposed just 1446 01:25:00,240 --> 01:25:03,320 Speaker 1: pretend we don't know what we know. I'm sorry, I 1447 01:25:03,680 --> 01:25:08,240 Speaker 1: don't I don't want to do that. I'm not okay 1448 01:25:08,280 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 1: with that. So that's why I tell you about the 1449 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:13,840 Speaker 1: things that I do. I though there's some very strong 1450 01:25:13,960 --> 01:25:16,400 Speaker 1: witnesses that appeared for Trump and this whole thing, like 1451 01:25:16,560 --> 01:25:23,320 Speaker 1: Ambassador Vulker, for example. Just would you please play clip 1452 01:25:23,360 --> 01:25:26,800 Speaker 1: two here. At no time was I aware of or 1453 01:25:26,880 --> 01:25:29,640 Speaker 1: knowingly took part in an effort to urge Ukraine to 1454 01:25:29,680 --> 01:25:32,680 Speaker 1: investigate former Vice President Biden. I was not on the 1455 01:25:32,760 --> 01:25:36,560 Speaker 1: July twenty fifth phone call between President Trump and President Zelinski. 1456 01:25:37,160 --> 01:25:39,280 Speaker 1: I was not made aware of any reference to Vice 1457 01:25:39,280 --> 01:25:43,000 Speaker 1: President Biden or his son by President Trump until the 1458 01:25:43,040 --> 01:25:46,120 Speaker 1: transcript of that call was released on September twenty fifth. 1459 01:25:47,720 --> 01:25:50,280 Speaker 1: So here you have a guy who is what the 1460 01:25:50,439 --> 01:25:53,800 Speaker 1: envoy for Ukraine or special envoard for Ukraine, some form 1461 01:25:53,840 --> 01:25:57,519 Speaker 1: of an ambassador, a lot of ambassadorial titles floating around 1462 01:25:57,560 --> 01:26:03,400 Speaker 1: these days. He is not he is not aware of 1463 01:26:03,520 --> 01:26:07,799 Speaker 1: this situation. How is it possible that this guy's working 1464 01:26:07,840 --> 01:26:10,639 Speaker 1: so closely on this and it's so clear, and Solomon 1465 01:26:10,720 --> 01:26:13,040 Speaker 1: saying today everybody was in the loop. Apparently Vulker wasn't 1466 01:26:13,040 --> 01:26:17,920 Speaker 1: in the loop. And how seriously can we take the 1467 01:26:18,000 --> 01:26:20,960 Speaker 1: demand that supposedly exists from the president to do a 1468 01:26:21,080 --> 01:26:23,679 Speaker 1: thing if people that would have had to know about 1469 01:26:23,680 --> 01:26:25,840 Speaker 1: the demand to help push it didn't even know about it. 1470 01:26:26,240 --> 01:26:30,080 Speaker 1: It's it's just all a big circle, folks. It's just nonsense. 1471 01:26:30,439 --> 01:26:33,320 Speaker 1: This Democrat impeachment thing is a self looking ice cream cone. 1472 01:26:33,600 --> 01:26:35,920 Speaker 1: And make all these accusations, Oh, they're got all spun up, 1473 01:26:35,960 --> 01:26:37,639 Speaker 1: and then it kind of falls apart. The media goes, 1474 01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:41,320 Speaker 1: oh my gosh, look at this thing. It's a sham. 1475 01:26:41,360 --> 01:26:43,960 Speaker 1: It's a scam, and really it's a travesty because we 1476 01:26:44,000 --> 01:26:47,599 Speaker 1: all have the whole country has to waste so much 1477 01:26:47,760 --> 01:26:49,720 Speaker 1: time on this one, and I just wish there were 1478 01:26:49,800 --> 01:26:52,400 Speaker 1: other things were the discussion. Oh well, I haven't even 1479 01:26:52,439 --> 01:26:54,639 Speaker 1: talked to you about what I think about the Democrats tonight. 1480 01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,679 Speaker 1: What I think is going to happen with the Democrat debate. 1481 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,240 Speaker 1: Although Harsani and I on to trash the whole notion 1482 01:27:01,280 --> 01:27:04,280 Speaker 1: of the need to watch it, I'll watch it. I'll 1483 01:27:04,320 --> 01:27:07,040 Speaker 1: watch it so you don't have to. That's one of 1484 01:27:07,080 --> 01:27:08,840 Speaker 1: the promises that I make here for you in the 1485 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:10,760 Speaker 1: Freedom Hunt. You don't have to waste your time. So 1486 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:12,439 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what happened, all right, So the Democrat 1487 01:27:12,479 --> 01:27:16,439 Speaker 1: debate tonight, buck style telling you about what I think 1488 01:27:16,479 --> 01:27:19,280 Speaker 1: is really going on here, because the buck never stops. 1489 01:27:19,840 --> 01:27:23,360 Speaker 1: Here's what we got. You had to qualify for this one. 1490 01:27:23,439 --> 01:27:26,400 Speaker 1: Candidates had to receive at least three percent in four 1491 01:27:26,520 --> 01:27:30,600 Speaker 1: DNC approved poles donations from at least one hundred and 1492 01:27:30,640 --> 01:27:33,400 Speaker 1: sixty five thousand supporters. BLAHBLI blah blah blah. All right, 1493 01:27:33,439 --> 01:27:41,960 Speaker 1: here's what we got for the candidates. Klobashar Booker, Buddha Judge, Sanders, Biden, Warren, Harris, Yang, 1494 01:27:42,000 --> 01:27:48,400 Speaker 1: Gabbert Stier. Castro didn't get the required numbers that as 1495 01:27:48,439 --> 01:27:53,400 Speaker 1: we know, Petro o'rourks like totally is not running for 1496 01:27:53,439 --> 01:27:56,400 Speaker 1: president anymore. He was born to do it. So I 1497 01:27:56,439 --> 01:28:00,160 Speaker 1: guess he's been unborned because he is not going to 1498 01:28:00,240 --> 01:28:03,800 Speaker 1: be president. And I just don't know. Uh, let's see 1499 01:28:03,800 --> 01:28:06,920 Speaker 1: who we have here. Uh, you're gonna have to be 1500 01:28:06,960 --> 01:28:09,639 Speaker 1: a big night, I think, or rather they're going to 1501 01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:12,280 Speaker 1: try to make this a big night the media to 1502 01:28:12,600 --> 01:28:15,719 Speaker 1: make this an interesting story. Um, they want to push 1503 01:28:15,760 --> 01:28:18,160 Speaker 1: for Buddha Judge. A lot of them want to push 1504 01:28:18,280 --> 01:28:23,720 Speaker 1: for Booda Judge, Um, Andrew Yang. I gotta say, you know, 1505 01:28:23,960 --> 01:28:25,680 Speaker 1: I like Yang, I like Gabbert. You all know that 1506 01:28:25,720 --> 01:28:27,679 Speaker 1: I'm honest with you about it. I tell you who 1507 01:28:27,720 --> 01:28:30,800 Speaker 1: my if I had to hear producer Mark. Actually, let's 1508 01:28:30,800 --> 01:28:34,040 Speaker 1: get you onto this one. If you if you have 1509 01:28:34,120 --> 01:28:36,120 Speaker 1: to vote forget about I ask you who the worst was. 1510 01:28:36,120 --> 01:28:37,639 Speaker 1: And you're good on that because you said to Blasio, 1511 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:39,280 Speaker 1: which might have even better than my answer, which was 1512 01:28:39,320 --> 01:28:41,599 Speaker 1: better because I think the Blasio is the worst, still 1513 01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:44,880 Speaker 1: the worst, not even the race. Still totally agree. But 1514 01:28:45,360 --> 01:28:47,639 Speaker 1: if you had to vote for one of these candidates 1515 01:28:47,640 --> 01:28:50,080 Speaker 1: that I named, if you have to, I'm making sure 1516 01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,960 Speaker 1: gun into your head, who is it, I'd say Andrew Yang. 1517 01:28:53,840 --> 01:28:55,120 Speaker 1: I like it. I want to. I want to say 1518 01:28:55,160 --> 01:28:58,080 Speaker 1: I'm a member of the Yang gang. You know, he's interesting. 1519 01:28:58,200 --> 01:29:00,840 Speaker 1: I would probably, I probably, at the end of the 1520 01:29:00,920 --> 01:29:02,880 Speaker 1: day say say Gabbert, but I want Yang to be 1521 01:29:03,200 --> 01:29:06,240 Speaker 1: his veep. Again, I'm not voting for a Democrat. I'm 1522 01:29:06,280 --> 01:29:08,439 Speaker 1: just saying, if we, if we, if we had to, 1523 01:29:09,360 --> 01:29:13,760 Speaker 1: and on this list, I think the worst. For me, 1524 01:29:14,560 --> 01:29:16,840 Speaker 1: we do best and worst here, I think the worst. 1525 01:29:20,120 --> 01:29:27,040 Speaker 1: It's actually not easy. I go the worst is um 1526 01:29:27,200 --> 01:29:30,719 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. I think Kamala Harris is the worst because 1527 01:29:30,760 --> 01:29:33,280 Speaker 1: the media tried so hard to just make Kamala Harris 1528 01:29:33,280 --> 01:29:36,360 Speaker 1: a big political thing and it's just not happening. Whore 1529 01:29:36,400 --> 01:29:39,040 Speaker 1: do you go? See? I want to say Bernie Sanders 1530 01:29:39,080 --> 01:29:42,080 Speaker 1: just because you and Larry David has ruined him. For me, 1531 01:29:42,120 --> 01:29:44,519 Speaker 1: I can't take him seriously at all. True. Yeah, like 1532 01:29:45,000 --> 01:29:46,880 Speaker 1: he could just say I love puppies, and I can't 1533 01:29:46,880 --> 01:29:51,519 Speaker 1: take him seriously because a free puppy program, everybody's gonna 1534 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:54,240 Speaker 1: get a puppy, and you know what's gonna happen. They're 1535 01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:56,479 Speaker 1: gonna get the puppies and they're gonna share them with 1536 01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,840 Speaker 1: other people. It's gonna be communal puppies. You know what. 1537 01:29:58,880 --> 01:30:00,960 Speaker 1: I take it back. If he does that, well, actually 1538 01:30:01,000 --> 01:30:03,280 Speaker 1: that's actually a great plan. That's a platform that I 1539 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:05,439 Speaker 1: could get be here too, because I want a puppy. 1540 01:30:05,479 --> 01:30:06,360 Speaker 1: I just don't want to have to take care of 1541 01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,280 Speaker 1: it all the time. So if it was a communal puppy, 1542 01:30:08,320 --> 01:30:10,960 Speaker 1: that would be. But you're getting married soon, you know 1543 01:30:11,000 --> 01:30:15,320 Speaker 1: what happens, baby or puppy. Gotta make your pick, dude, puppy, Yeah, 1544 01:30:15,720 --> 01:30:19,240 Speaker 1: puppy can't talk back to me. Yeah, that's true, Kloba 1545 01:30:19,320 --> 01:30:22,200 Speaker 1: shar I gotta say. I think, is you know, just 1546 01:30:22,280 --> 01:30:26,120 Speaker 1: an interesting candidate for the Democrats because she's from the 1547 01:30:26,160 --> 01:30:31,000 Speaker 1: Midwest and female. And Booker he's just in this still 1548 01:30:31,000 --> 01:30:33,000 Speaker 1: because the media likes him. I mean, he just the 1549 01:30:33,040 --> 01:30:35,439 Speaker 1: media likes Corey Booker, and so Corey Booker gets to 1550 01:30:35,479 --> 01:30:38,200 Speaker 1: continue to be running for president even though I don't 1551 01:30:38,200 --> 01:30:41,560 Speaker 1: think anybody believes he's gonna win anything, including the primary. 1552 01:30:42,760 --> 01:30:47,439 Speaker 1: Joe Biden still still in the mix here, former Vice 1553 01:30:47,479 --> 01:30:50,320 Speaker 1: President Joe Biden. Wouldn't we call him Senator Joe Biden? 1554 01:30:50,800 --> 01:30:52,840 Speaker 1: Former Vice President Joe Biden. I list him here and 1555 01:30:53,040 --> 01:30:55,560 Speaker 1: well anyway, So I don't think it's gonna be a 1556 01:30:55,600 --> 01:30:57,960 Speaker 1: whole lot of change tonight from what you're used to seeing. 1557 01:30:57,960 --> 01:30:59,559 Speaker 1: I'll have a bunch of Democrats who come out and 1558 01:30:59,600 --> 01:31:03,200 Speaker 1: say blah blah blah, socialism, more spending, big government, free stuff, 1559 01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:07,240 Speaker 1: free stuff, free college, free healthcare. Trump is hitler. Country 1560 01:31:07,280 --> 01:31:09,200 Speaker 1: is gonna go to hell. Climate change is gonna kill 1561 01:31:09,200 --> 01:31:13,519 Speaker 1: all of us unless you vote for Democrats. That's it, really, 1562 01:31:13,600 --> 01:31:16,760 Speaker 1: I mean, I now I feel like you don't even 1563 01:31:16,880 --> 01:31:19,160 Speaker 1: do I even have to watch the debate. We've established 1564 01:31:19,160 --> 01:31:21,960 Speaker 1: already what the main thrust will be. I do think 1565 01:31:21,960 --> 01:31:26,320 Speaker 1: that the most damaging politically, the most damaging position the 1566 01:31:26,320 --> 01:31:30,479 Speaker 1: Democrats hold now for general election purposes. And we'll see 1567 01:31:30,479 --> 01:31:32,280 Speaker 1: how much this gets attention to the people. Don't talk 1568 01:31:32,320 --> 01:31:34,360 Speaker 1: about immigration as much right now as they had been. 1569 01:31:34,640 --> 01:31:36,599 Speaker 1: The border crisis has died down a little bit, oh 1570 01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,439 Speaker 1: some a fascinating thing happened. I think it was in 1571 01:31:39,600 --> 01:31:44,080 Speaker 1: AFP as Jan's France Press or agents France Press. I 1572 01:31:44,080 --> 01:31:46,839 Speaker 1: don't know. However, you were supposed to say that AFP 1573 01:31:47,000 --> 01:31:49,600 Speaker 1: did this story on a UN analysis of all the 1574 01:31:49,680 --> 01:31:54,720 Speaker 1: children that were in custody at our southern border. And 1575 01:31:54,800 --> 01:31:58,240 Speaker 1: it was a horrifying moment, right because, oh my gosh, Trump, 1576 01:31:58,320 --> 01:32:04,120 Speaker 1: kids in cages, all this really bad stuff. And it 1577 01:32:04,280 --> 01:32:07,000 Speaker 1: turned out that the analysis the UN did was from 1578 01:32:07,040 --> 01:32:14,560 Speaker 1: the kids quote in cages from the Obama administration twenty fifteen. Whoops. 1579 01:32:14,760 --> 01:32:16,880 Speaker 1: But you would think, hold on a second, why is 1580 01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,080 Speaker 1: that now no longer a story? It's an analysis of 1581 01:32:20,160 --> 01:32:24,639 Speaker 1: what had happened because AFP pulled it. So they put 1582 01:32:24,680 --> 01:32:27,440 Speaker 1: out a story based on an analysis, you an analysis 1583 01:32:27,479 --> 01:32:30,880 Speaker 1: of children being held to the southern border in detention 1584 01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:34,000 Speaker 1: as they're being processed to be let into this country 1585 01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:37,599 Speaker 1: by the way which they all were let into the country. 1586 01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,360 Speaker 1: And because it turns out that it didn't happen while 1587 01:32:41,400 --> 01:32:45,280 Speaker 1: Trump was president, it's no longer a story. It would 1588 01:32:45,280 --> 01:32:48,360 Speaker 1: be hard to find in some ways a more pure 1589 01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:56,400 Speaker 1: distillation of mainstream media bias. Bad thing happens under Trump story, 1590 01:32:56,680 --> 01:32:59,920 Speaker 1: run with it? Oh, same bad thing happened, but happen 1591 01:33:00,160 --> 01:33:04,320 Speaker 1: under Obama before Trump is president. Pull the story deleted, 1592 01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:08,600 Speaker 1: Pretend it never happened on the internet. It's it was 1593 01:33:08,640 --> 01:33:17,479 Speaker 1: a stunning a stunning situation. Honestly, anyway, it is. It 1594 01:33:17,760 --> 01:33:20,120 Speaker 1: is what it is, My friends, here we go study 1595 01:33:20,120 --> 01:33:23,360 Speaker 1: in un child attention. Let's see if I make sure 1596 01:33:23,479 --> 01:33:26,400 Speaker 1: I think I got the right. I hate I hate 1597 01:33:26,439 --> 01:33:28,880 Speaker 1: being wrong. I'm so rarely wrong, though. Let's see what 1598 01:33:28,920 --> 01:33:32,280 Speaker 1: we get here. Oh it was it was Reuters. I'm sorry, 1599 01:33:32,280 --> 01:33:33,840 Speaker 1: it was a Router's story. I think I said AFP. 1600 01:33:33,960 --> 01:33:38,040 Speaker 1: It's Reuters. My bad. November eighteen story headline, US has 1601 01:33:38,080 --> 01:33:42,240 Speaker 1: world's highest rate of children in detention. UN study is withdrawn. 1602 01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,479 Speaker 1: The United Nations issued a statement on November nineteenth thing 1603 01:33:45,560 --> 01:33:47,120 Speaker 1: the number was not current, but was for the year 1604 01:33:47,120 --> 01:33:51,320 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen. No replacement story will be issued. Router's one 1605 01:33:51,320 --> 01:33:54,519 Speaker 1: of the biggest news organizations in the world. Oh, it's not. 1606 01:33:54,720 --> 01:33:56,759 Speaker 1: It's not a story anymore because it happened when Obama 1607 01:33:56,800 --> 01:34:00,400 Speaker 1: was president. That pretty much describes for you the way 1608 01:34:00,400 --> 01:34:04,479 Speaker 1: the media approaches everything. It's only a story. A bad 1609 01:34:04,520 --> 01:34:08,120 Speaker 1: thing happens. If it's while Trump is president, it's a story. 1610 01:34:08,360 --> 01:34:10,639 Speaker 1: If while Obama, if it was while Obama is president, 1611 01:34:10,720 --> 01:34:14,040 Speaker 1: is no longer a story, and they wonder why we 1612 01:34:14,160 --> 01:34:16,960 Speaker 1: all cheer and laugh when they call it fake when 1613 01:34:16,960 --> 01:34:20,120 Speaker 1: Trump calls it fake news, because they are a bunch 1614 01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:24,040 Speaker 1: of fakers, a bunch of frauds hacks. I will I 1615 01:34:24,040 --> 01:34:26,639 Speaker 1: will continue on this. I will continue beating this drum 1616 01:34:26,680 --> 01:34:30,400 Speaker 1: until the day I die. If I, you know, stop 1617 01:34:30,439 --> 01:34:32,880 Speaker 1: doing media tomorrow and I was just running a hot 1618 01:34:32,880 --> 01:34:36,120 Speaker 1: dog stand somewhere, probably leading a very nice life of 1619 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:40,880 Speaker 1: a humble but striving capitalist and enjoying myself, I would 1620 01:34:40,880 --> 01:34:43,400 Speaker 1: still anybody who would listen to be ranting and raving 1621 01:34:43,400 --> 01:34:47,200 Speaker 1: about how fraudulent the news media has become and what 1622 01:34:47,280 --> 01:34:50,880 Speaker 1: a bunch of totally partisan hacks they are. And the 1623 01:34:50,920 --> 01:34:54,599 Speaker 1: worst part is they run around, you know, strutting about 1624 01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,519 Speaker 1: and acting like they're so brave when they speak truth 1625 01:34:57,560 --> 01:35:01,160 Speaker 1: to power. It's complete nonsense. Yes, indeed, you know it's 1626 01:35:01,200 --> 01:35:05,360 Speaker 1: not nonsense, though, Roll call, for which it is now. 1627 01:35:05,439 --> 01:35:08,439 Speaker 1: Time ain't no party like a Team buck party, because 1628 01:35:08,479 --> 01:35:17,920 Speaker 1: a Team buck party don't stop. Yeah, we got buck 1629 01:35:17,960 --> 01:35:34,640 Speaker 1: turned up to eleven. It's time for roll call, Roll Call, 1630 01:35:35,360 --> 01:35:38,719 Speaker 1: Team Bucket. iHeartMedia dot com or Facebook dot com slash 1631 01:35:38,880 --> 01:35:42,439 Speaker 1: Buck Sexton. Let's get to emails because we've been new 1632 01:35:42,479 --> 01:35:48,040 Speaker 1: emails yesterday. Gary, Gary kicks off a noise. Buck and 1633 01:35:48,280 --> 01:35:52,240 Speaker 1: producer Mark, you are absolutely the best. Thank you so 1634 01:35:52,320 --> 01:35:54,240 Speaker 1: much for adding email. I'm one of the twelve people 1635 01:35:54,240 --> 01:35:59,879 Speaker 1: that have never used Facebook. Regarding President Swallwell's gastric indiscri 1636 01:36:00,040 --> 01:36:04,799 Speaker 1: Russian Micro has an excellent short ten minute podcast episode 1637 01:36:04,800 --> 01:36:08,400 Speaker 1: that is one percent related and reveals the source of 1638 01:36:09,560 --> 01:36:13,559 Speaker 1: the name of a popular host on the view. Huh okay, 1639 01:36:13,600 --> 01:36:15,120 Speaker 1: I don't know what that's all about, but thank you 1640 01:36:15,160 --> 01:36:17,200 Speaker 1: my friend for writing again and saying nice things about 1641 01:36:17,200 --> 01:36:21,120 Speaker 1: me and producer Mark Gina. Hey Buck, somebody needs to 1642 01:36:21,120 --> 01:36:23,160 Speaker 1: take a picture of both Fox News and CNN just 1643 01:36:23,240 --> 01:36:28,639 Speaker 1: how CNN words and captions breaking news Sonlan ties Trump, Pence, 1644 01:36:28,680 --> 01:36:34,040 Speaker 1: Pompeo to Ukraine pressure campaign totally false. Yeah, Look, there's 1645 01:36:34,080 --> 01:36:36,439 Speaker 1: a lot of headline writing that goes on that is 1646 01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:40,240 Speaker 1: not objective. Headlines are tough because you got to grab somebody, 1647 01:36:40,280 --> 01:36:42,880 Speaker 1: and so to write purely objective headlines is never going 1648 01:36:42,920 --> 01:36:45,160 Speaker 1: to be really something that happens. But there are I 1649 01:36:45,200 --> 01:36:49,320 Speaker 1: think there are limits of it, and yeah, but yeah, 1650 01:36:49,360 --> 01:36:51,000 Speaker 1: you'll see the headlines. All you have to do anytime 1651 01:36:51,000 --> 01:36:53,479 Speaker 1: you want. It's just if you have on your computer. 1652 01:36:53,600 --> 01:36:55,120 Speaker 1: Just go to the Fox News dot com site and 1653 01:36:55,120 --> 01:36:57,280 Speaker 1: go to CNN dot com and just see the way 1654 01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,360 Speaker 1: that CNN talks about the way Fox talks about it. 1655 01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:04,400 Speaker 1: I mean the different different points of view watching the 1656 01:37:04,439 --> 01:37:08,840 Speaker 1: same thing. Steve Hey Bucks Shields High from the Live, 1657 01:37:08,960 --> 01:37:12,679 Speaker 1: Free or Die State of New Hampshire. I'm a real 1658 01:37:12,800 --> 01:37:16,479 Speaker 1: news longtime supporter of Team Buck. I just posted to 1659 01:37:16,920 --> 01:37:19,680 Speaker 1: Jack Ryan TV series the post below you ask I 1660 01:37:19,800 --> 01:37:26,200 Speaker 1: delivered see the post below season two. Really, that's your narrative. 1661 01:37:26,240 --> 01:37:28,360 Speaker 1: You're trying to sell to the fans that social justice 1662 01:37:28,400 --> 01:37:30,840 Speaker 1: winers are going to save a country like Venezuela. Who 1663 01:37:30,880 --> 01:37:34,360 Speaker 1: does your research? Maybe if you want season three to 1664 01:37:34,439 --> 01:37:37,599 Speaker 1: be something appealing to your true fans rather than appealing 1665 01:37:37,640 --> 01:37:41,080 Speaker 1: to woke snowflakes, you might want to get advice from 1666 01:37:41,120 --> 01:37:44,560 Speaker 1: former CI analyst Buck Sex and provide more sound direction. 1667 01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:47,479 Speaker 1: I love Krasinski in the role, but season two was 1668 01:37:47,560 --> 01:37:51,800 Speaker 1: tough to watch. All right, man, Shields, Hi, thank you 1669 01:37:51,840 --> 01:37:53,559 Speaker 1: so much, Steve. I don't know if that's gonna get 1670 01:37:54,400 --> 01:37:58,200 Speaker 1: Netflix or whatever to or Amazon rather to put me 1671 01:37:58,240 --> 01:38:00,240 Speaker 1: in the role, but I'm sorry, not in the role 1672 01:38:01,080 --> 01:38:04,320 Speaker 1: to take Krasinski. That guy's very tall, very handsome, but 1673 01:38:04,400 --> 01:38:11,080 Speaker 1: to help with the writing behind the scenes would be good. Steve. Wait, no, 1674 01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:16,439 Speaker 1: we already did, Steve Robert Um Okay, nope, that was 1675 01:38:16,479 --> 01:38:19,679 Speaker 1: a link. And hey, Buck, I just want to tell 1676 01:38:19,680 --> 01:38:22,400 Speaker 1: you how much I enjoy your podcast, which I started 1677 01:38:22,400 --> 01:38:25,000 Speaker 1: downloading years ago when I first saw your commentary on 1678 01:38:25,080 --> 01:38:28,559 Speaker 1: Fox News. You are so knowledgeable for one so young, insightful, 1679 01:38:28,600 --> 01:38:31,800 Speaker 1: and have a soothing voice. Your impressions are hilarious. I 1680 01:38:31,840 --> 01:38:34,080 Speaker 1: will miss your Betto and your Bernie is perfect. Your 1681 01:38:34,080 --> 01:38:36,840 Speaker 1: Warren is rapidly improving. But I wish you would do 1682 01:38:36,840 --> 01:38:39,160 Speaker 1: Amy klobischar who should be easy to do with her 1683 01:38:39,240 --> 01:38:45,880 Speaker 1: nasally voice. Regarding impressions, have you seen Tom Shalou play 1684 01:38:45,960 --> 01:38:49,080 Speaker 1: Shifty Shift on Greg Gutfeld Show on Saturday Night. Shalu 1685 01:38:49,200 --> 01:38:51,519 Speaker 1: is perfect for that part. I like to watch the 1686 01:38:51,560 --> 01:38:54,840 Speaker 1: star Millennial on our side. At least Stephanick stand up 1687 01:38:54,880 --> 01:38:58,799 Speaker 1: to Shifty at the idiotic impeachment inquisitions. I've been impressed 1688 01:38:58,800 --> 01:39:00,880 Speaker 1: with Stephanick ever since he was the one who got 1689 01:39:00,920 --> 01:39:02,720 Speaker 1: sanctioned and sank to comy to admit he did not 1690 01:39:02,760 --> 01:39:06,679 Speaker 1: advise Congress of the existing Trump investigation, et cetera. Et Finally, 1691 01:39:06,720 --> 01:39:09,160 Speaker 1: about the debate over the tech issues with your podcast. Yes, 1692 01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,439 Speaker 1: the problem was really bad a few months ago. Keep 1693 01:39:12,520 --> 01:39:16,040 Speaker 1: up the high quality program and I'd be thrilled to 1694 01:39:16,080 --> 01:39:17,720 Speaker 1: hear Shields High again. What was the name of the 1695 01:39:17,760 --> 01:39:20,559 Speaker 1: history show? And I can't forget producer Mark. I like 1696 01:39:20,640 --> 01:39:23,759 Speaker 1: to hear the banner between you guys. Thanks for providing 1697 01:39:23,760 --> 01:39:30,000 Speaker 1: your email. Thanks for the feedback, best regards, Annam. All right, well, 1698 01:39:30,080 --> 01:39:36,960 Speaker 1: thank you so much, appreciate it. James, hold on, it's 1699 01:39:37,000 --> 01:39:39,040 Speaker 1: got a load. Why is the internet here so slow? 1700 01:39:41,920 --> 01:39:44,160 Speaker 1: All right, that's a very long email. Enough time for 1701 01:39:44,200 --> 01:39:48,920 Speaker 1: that one right now, kent On Vinman, He started to 1702 01:39:48,920 --> 01:39:55,040 Speaker 1: say office of before he was cut off. There's only 1703 01:39:55,080 --> 01:39:59,160 Speaker 1: so many in the IC Office of what. Thanks Shields 1704 01:39:59,200 --> 01:40:01,479 Speaker 1: High On, Vinman. Yeah, I don't know. I guess that 1705 01:40:02,320 --> 01:40:04,240 Speaker 1: if you're telling me that happened, then I believe that 1706 01:40:04,240 --> 01:40:06,120 Speaker 1: that could have that could have happened. All right, now 1707 01:40:06,160 --> 01:40:12,559 Speaker 1: we're gonna switch to switch to the Facebook in box, 1708 01:40:12,640 --> 01:40:19,280 Speaker 1: which is always fun. And Edward right, Men at Work 1709 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:23,679 Speaker 1: is much better as a movie than Young Guns. Oh, 1710 01:40:24,800 --> 01:40:29,360 Speaker 1: I see Edward taking producer Mark's part in this dispute. Oh, 1711 01:40:29,520 --> 01:40:37,080 Speaker 1: that will be remembered, blocked, and reported. Sir. Let's see 1712 01:40:37,080 --> 01:40:40,400 Speaker 1: who else we got in here. TJ. Buck. I'm not 1713 01:40:40,439 --> 01:40:42,800 Speaker 1: making excuses for Trump. There's no doubt he needs to 1714 01:40:42,800 --> 01:40:45,320 Speaker 1: do what he can to get this spending under control. 1715 01:40:45,720 --> 01:40:47,600 Speaker 1: But how much of this out of control spending is 1716 01:40:47,600 --> 01:40:51,000 Speaker 1: bureaucratic protest against him? Do you think? I don't mean 1717 01:40:51,040 --> 01:40:53,400 Speaker 1: to be conspiratorial, but I can't help but think that 1718 01:40:53,439 --> 01:40:56,040 Speaker 1: an overwhelming majority of the federal government workers are Democrats 1719 01:40:56,080 --> 01:40:58,719 Speaker 1: who are taking their own liberties to maximize their allowable 1720 01:40:58,720 --> 01:41:03,439 Speaker 1: spending every month. And unfortunately, short of shutting down the government, 1721 01:41:03,760 --> 01:41:12,880 Speaker 1: there's not much Trump cant to cut this deep state spending. Huh. Interesting. 1722 01:41:14,680 --> 01:41:18,000 Speaker 1: I mean, presidents can only do so much with the 1723 01:41:18,040 --> 01:41:21,960 Speaker 1: budget and with spending. That's true. How much are we 1724 01:41:22,000 --> 01:41:23,599 Speaker 1: gonna blame Trump for this one? I don't know, but 1725 01:41:23,680 --> 01:41:26,240 Speaker 1: let's be careful about never blaming Trump for anything, right. 1726 01:41:26,280 --> 01:41:28,160 Speaker 1: I Mean, that's why I think sometimes I just have 1727 01:41:28,200 --> 01:41:30,719 Speaker 1: to remind you guys he picks really bad people, because 1728 01:41:30,760 --> 01:41:32,760 Speaker 1: I think it's important for us to establish it. There 1729 01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:34,559 Speaker 1: are some things that we just need to be honest 1730 01:41:34,560 --> 01:41:36,800 Speaker 1: that Trump is failing on or that he's not doing 1731 01:41:36,800 --> 01:41:40,200 Speaker 1: a good job of We can't always say, well it's 1732 01:41:40,240 --> 01:41:42,120 Speaker 1: really hard. Yeah, well he took the job that was 1733 01:41:42,160 --> 01:41:44,360 Speaker 1: going to be a really hard job. You know. He 1734 01:41:44,400 --> 01:41:45,960 Speaker 1: did say they were going to build a wall, which 1735 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:48,200 Speaker 1: they are now gearing up. It seems in this last 1736 01:41:48,720 --> 01:41:51,519 Speaker 1: year of his first term to really build wall, hundreds 1737 01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:55,360 Speaker 1: of miles of wall, so that would be very interesting. 1738 01:41:55,400 --> 01:41:57,240 Speaker 1: And by the way he builds, he builds hundreds of 1739 01:41:57,240 --> 01:41:58,880 Speaker 1: miles of wall, he wins re election, no question in 1740 01:41:58,920 --> 01:42:03,240 Speaker 1: my mind, no question, not even not even close. Carl 1741 01:42:04,280 --> 01:42:07,840 Speaker 1: shields high as always excellent work on the show. I 1742 01:42:07,960 --> 01:42:10,040 Speaker 1: recommended the show to a friend recently and now he's 1743 01:42:10,040 --> 01:42:12,559 Speaker 1: a daily listener. Thank you, Carl. I think of people. 1744 01:42:12,600 --> 01:42:15,160 Speaker 1: The more people that hear about the show and give 1745 01:42:15,160 --> 01:42:16,600 Speaker 1: it a listen to them, or people are going to 1746 01:42:16,720 --> 01:42:19,679 Speaker 1: keep listening every day to the show. We're very confident 1747 01:42:19,720 --> 01:42:23,320 Speaker 1: of that. A critique I'm surprised has not been aimed 1748 01:42:23,320 --> 01:42:26,519 Speaker 1: at Bernie is must have been nice not waiting for 1749 01:42:26,560 --> 01:42:29,639 Speaker 1: the necessary diagnosis treatment of his recent heart attack. No lines, 1750 01:42:29,720 --> 01:42:33,360 Speaker 1: no delays, no waiting list, top notch congressional care, and 1751 01:42:33,439 --> 01:42:36,480 Speaker 1: he thinks when we add three hundred million more Americans. 1752 01:42:36,479 --> 01:42:40,920 Speaker 1: This is going to improve quality and access. That's nuts. Well, 1753 01:42:40,960 --> 01:42:43,760 Speaker 1: you're right about if we do medicare for all of 1754 01:42:43,800 --> 01:42:47,559 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, everybody is put into the same system. 1755 01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:49,840 Speaker 1: By the way, it will never be everybody in the 1756 01:42:49,880 --> 01:42:52,000 Speaker 1: same system, because there'll always be people that have enough 1757 01:42:52,040 --> 01:42:55,680 Speaker 1: resources to pay for a private, private sector or a 1758 01:42:55,680 --> 01:42:59,920 Speaker 1: private market healthcare. And that's that's the case in can 1759 01:43:00,240 --> 01:43:01,800 Speaker 1: it's the case in the UK. We're always here. But oh, 1760 01:43:01,840 --> 01:43:04,200 Speaker 1: government healthcare, government healthcare. You had a lot of the 1761 01:43:04,200 --> 01:43:07,000 Speaker 1: people who can afford it pay for private healthcare outside 1762 01:43:07,000 --> 01:43:08,960 Speaker 1: the government sector. Why do we think they do that 1763 01:43:09,479 --> 01:43:12,320 Speaker 1: because they like throwing away money or because the government 1764 01:43:12,320 --> 01:43:17,080 Speaker 1: healthcare is crappy? Huh. I don't know. That's a real thinker. 1765 01:43:17,200 --> 01:43:20,800 Speaker 1: I gotta think on that one a little bit. Let's 1766 01:43:20,800 --> 01:43:24,160 Speaker 1: see here, Rick Buck, listen to a podcast here in 1767 01:43:24,200 --> 01:43:27,960 Speaker 1: Idaho near the Canadian border. As a FedEx corrier wanted 1768 01:43:27,960 --> 01:43:30,400 Speaker 1: away in on recent arcle in the Times, I received 1769 01:43:30,439 --> 01:43:32,640 Speaker 1: a raise as soon as the Trump TAC cut went 1770 01:43:32,640 --> 01:43:35,280 Speaker 1: into effect and over a billion was added to fund 1771 01:43:35,360 --> 01:43:39,160 Speaker 1: our pension. Aircraft and trucks were replaced with more efficient ones, 1772 01:43:39,280 --> 01:43:44,439 Speaker 1: free efficient ones all public knowledge hashtag fake news. Also, 1773 01:43:44,520 --> 01:43:46,479 Speaker 1: men at work come from a landown under where women 1774 01:43:46,479 --> 01:43:50,439 Speaker 1: glow and men plunder. Love the show, don't take calls. 1775 01:43:50,560 --> 01:43:52,479 Speaker 1: Told my daughter about you. She says, you look like 1776 01:43:53,240 --> 01:43:56,280 Speaker 1: Eric Foreman from that seventies show. Just watched Load of 1777 01:43:56,320 --> 01:43:59,000 Speaker 1: Weapon with Emilio Estevez better than the Ducks. Oh yeah, 1778 01:43:59,040 --> 01:44:02,680 Speaker 1: Boomer sooner, watch Far and Away, okay history, Shield's I 1779 01:44:04,920 --> 01:44:08,920 Speaker 1: blocked and reported, there we go. That's gonna be for 1780 01:44:08,920 --> 01:44:12,240 Speaker 1: the show today. Team always always an honor of privilege, 1781 01:44:12,439 --> 01:44:13,080 Speaker 1: Shield's high