1 00:00:04,960 --> 00:00:07,280 Speaker 1: Welcome to Money Making Conversations. It's the show that she 2 00:00:07,320 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: has the secrets of success experience firsthand by marketing and 3 00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:13,039 Speaker 1: Brandon expert Rashan McDonald. I will know he's giving me 4 00:00:13,080 --> 00:00:15,400 Speaker 1: advice on many occasions. In the case you didn't notice, 5 00:00:15,800 --> 00:00:19,200 Speaker 1: I'm not broke, you know he'll be interviewing celebrity CEOs, 6 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:22,520 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and industry decision makers. It's what he likes to do, 7 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:25,079 Speaker 1: It's what he likes to share. Now it's time to 8 00:00:25,120 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 1: hear from my man, Rashan McDonald money Making Conversations. Here 9 00:00:29,160 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 1: we go. Welcome to money Making Conversation. I am your host, 10 00:00:32,240 --> 00:00:35,320 Speaker 1: Rashan McDonald. I tell everybody every week is my mantra 11 00:00:35,520 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: to stop reading other people's success stories and start writing 12 00:00:38,440 --> 00:00:41,199 Speaker 1: your own. I also tell people about their passion to 13 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: leave with their gifts and don't let your age, friends, family, 14 00:00:44,280 --> 00:00:46,920 Speaker 1: a coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams. 15 00:00:47,200 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: On my show, interview for consumers as well as business 16 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: owners access and give them as sex to celebrities, CEOs, 17 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: entrepreneurs and what I like to call interestry decision makers. 18 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 1: I asked them advice on giving us secrets to their success. 19 00:01:00,360 --> 00:01:03,400 Speaker 1: My next guest is Dr Simone Whitmore. She's a boy 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,400 Speaker 1: Certified O b G y N and star on Bravo's 21 00:01:06,600 --> 00:01:10,400 Speaker 1: Married to Medicine, returning for his eighth season with guests well. 22 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:13,560 Speaker 1: Some of the co stars are stars or Dr Jacqueline 23 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:17,000 Speaker 1: of course of miss Dr Whitmore, Dr Heavily who's a 24 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 1: danist uh. Dr Tessa who's an occupying occupational medicine, Toya 25 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:25,480 Speaker 1: who's well Tarya and they're married to a doctor. And 26 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,000 Speaker 1: friends of the cast like Lisa and the Cold Guard 27 00:01:28,040 --> 00:01:32,479 Speaker 1: Well and Carrie Welles. New cast member this season, Anila 28 00:01:32,600 --> 00:01:35,480 Speaker 1: a song on the pilot first year. She's a fashion 29 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:38,279 Speaker 1: blog up but she's married to a doctor. Dr Simone 30 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,360 Speaker 1: Whitmore is on my show to talk about COVID eight 31 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: team as civil unrest. That's an erring on the season 32 00:01:43,720 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 1: that she's experienced personally as well. End the upcoming season 33 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,040 Speaker 1: of marriage, which is the eighth seed, the marriage to 34 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: medicine and the realities of being a real doctor on 35 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 1: a reality show. Please work on Monday making conversation for 36 00:01:55,240 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: the very first time. I'm happy to have her on 37 00:01:56,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: the show. Dr Simone Whitmore, how are you doing. I'm 38 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:04,320 Speaker 1: doing excellent and thank you so much for having me. 39 00:02:04,600 --> 00:02:06,360 Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for coming on the show. 40 00:02:06,680 --> 00:02:09,239 Speaker 1: And uh, you know, the reality shows at one time 41 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 1: would consider I thought it would be a fad. I 42 00:02:11,680 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 1: thought they wouldn't last. And at one time there was 43 00:02:14,280 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 1: really out of control. They were physically out of control 44 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,519 Speaker 1: and a lot of a lot of noise like the custom, 45 00:02:19,520 --> 00:02:21,639 Speaker 1: a lot of fussing, a lot of drink throwing. And 46 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:26,119 Speaker 1: you decided to a being a certified doctor into this room. 47 00:02:26,520 --> 00:02:29,160 Speaker 1: What what drove you or what was the motivation behind 48 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,440 Speaker 1: being a part of merrit to medicine. The reason I 49 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:37,240 Speaker 1: was willing to film reality TV is because I felt 50 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 1: that little black girls in America needed to see somebody 51 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: that didn't come from money. I came from an alcoholic dad, 52 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: a single mom, and I know how to have a 53 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:55,960 Speaker 1: good time and live my life without the white coat. 54 00:02:56,440 --> 00:02:59,760 Speaker 1: And I wanted little brown girls in America to see 55 00:03:00,160 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 1: if I did it, she can do it too. Well. 56 00:03:03,440 --> 00:03:05,480 Speaker 1: You know you are doing that. It's in this an 57 00:03:05,480 --> 00:03:08,639 Speaker 1: eight season and it's all about branding too and always 58 00:03:08,639 --> 00:03:11,200 Speaker 1: about what people think of you, and that this is 59 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:13,960 Speaker 1: not a negative interview. These are just basic questions and 60 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 1: that I'm just probing and just trying to get your 61 00:03:16,800 --> 00:03:19,160 Speaker 1: story out because I think it's a really great story. 62 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,400 Speaker 1: I've watched I've watched the show offered on over the years, 63 00:03:22,400 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: and my background is casting and producing, so I'm very 64 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:27,639 Speaker 1: familiar with your talents and a lot of your cast 65 00:03:27,720 --> 00:03:30,080 Speaker 1: member quite where Up has been on my show several times. 66 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:32,799 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan of hers and so. But when 67 00:03:32,840 --> 00:03:35,680 Speaker 1: you're when you're practicing doctor like you are, you're on 68 00:03:35,680 --> 00:03:38,720 Speaker 1: the reality show, does it and you have a practice, 69 00:03:38,960 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: does it ever become an issue with the people that 70 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: you are, that you are that are your patients. So 71 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,960 Speaker 1: most of my patients who have been with me for years, 72 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: they know who I am. I may say a little 73 00:03:52,280 --> 00:03:56,680 Speaker 1: mild cuss word in the office trying to be funny, 74 00:03:57,080 --> 00:04:01,680 Speaker 1: and my patients understand me when I can't into reality TV. 75 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:07,800 Speaker 1: I came as my authentic self, no more, no less, 76 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,080 Speaker 1: just my authentic self. And what is your authentic self? 77 00:04:11,120 --> 00:04:15,680 Speaker 1: I'm just asking. I love medicine, I love O B G. 78 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,799 Speaker 1: Y N. But I also like to have a good time, 79 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:25,279 Speaker 1: hang out shop, have a cocktail hour, and I love 80 00:04:25,360 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 1: the laugh. Well, you know, I think you're thinking, hear 81 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,120 Speaker 1: what you're saying you want to break the stereotype, or 82 00:04:30,160 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 1: if there is a stereotype, you want to say, this 83 00:04:32,200 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: is me and it's all right to be me with 84 00:04:34,600 --> 00:04:38,479 Speaker 1: no with no um. I guess you know. Standards are 85 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 1: are because some people kind of put people on pedestals. 86 00:04:40,680 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: And I think that's what you're saying that please look 87 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:46,400 Speaker 1: at me. I'm Dr Samone with Moore, I am I 88 00:04:46,440 --> 00:04:49,960 Speaker 1: am board certified, I am successful, I'm happily married. I 89 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 1: have a son about to go to college. He's living 90 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: a good life, and I live in a beautiful home. 91 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:57,600 Speaker 1: Why can't I be me? Why can't I be Why 92 00:04:57,600 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: can't I dress this way in this fashion fashion savvy? 93 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:03,360 Speaker 1: Why can't I eat this way? Why can't that laugh 94 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:05,680 Speaker 1: out lot in public? So in your says, you feel 95 00:05:05,720 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: like that there are certain standards that people hold doctors 96 00:05:08,800 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 1: to that should be pulled down or accepted that it's 97 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:15,039 Speaker 1: all right to be a human being. Not to say 98 00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 1: that any standard that we have or the way we 99 00:05:18,839 --> 00:05:22,839 Speaker 1: see our doctors should be pulled down, but they should 100 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 1: be humanized. Man, we are human first. And I have 101 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:30,280 Speaker 1: that doctor before my name. Now I have that m 102 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,920 Speaker 1: D after my name, but it's not on my birth certificate. 103 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: It does not define who I am. I'm a wife, 104 00:05:38,480 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 1: I'm a mother, I'm a sister, I'm a girlfriend. And again, 105 00:05:43,560 --> 00:05:48,559 Speaker 1: life is about being well rounded. My dad always taught 106 00:05:48,600 --> 00:05:51,040 Speaker 1: me that be well rounded. Well, you know the thing 107 00:05:51,279 --> 00:05:53,919 Speaker 1: I got that impression of you, uh and the first 108 00:05:53,920 --> 00:05:56,279 Speaker 1: episode of the eighth season, which I did get a 109 00:05:56,360 --> 00:05:58,080 Speaker 1: chance to see because I want to make sure I 110 00:05:58,080 --> 00:06:00,000 Speaker 1: was caught up to speed on where the characters were 111 00:06:00,080 --> 00:06:02,840 Speaker 1: being developed, and first of the first basically the first 112 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: episode is your episode. Like I said, you joked off 113 00:06:05,000 --> 00:06:07,240 Speaker 1: air and said, you know you start why not? And 114 00:06:07,360 --> 00:06:13,320 Speaker 1: so it ended with you and you and down You're Jackie. 115 00:06:13,360 --> 00:06:16,120 Speaker 1: Still got issues, heavily got issues. You know, your son 116 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:17,800 Speaker 1: about to go off to college. But I thought that 117 00:06:17,880 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: was a real tender moment in there, your conversation with 118 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,520 Speaker 1: your son about racism, you know, because that's a reality 119 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: that you know. I have a daughter, she's uh, you know, 120 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: she's in college, and but even having a young African 121 00:06:29,160 --> 00:06:32,360 Speaker 1: American male that has to be even more stressful knowing 122 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 1: he's going to an environment that may have seeds of racism. 123 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: Talk about that and we're just talking about parenting. That's 124 00:06:38,880 --> 00:06:41,240 Speaker 1: me or not. We're both parents. But you had a 125 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:44,560 Speaker 1: conversation with your son, how do you feel? And you know, 126 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,400 Speaker 1: lights on on and lights like I felt that was 127 00:06:47,440 --> 00:06:49,760 Speaker 1: a real conversation was happening with him. But that still 128 00:06:49,839 --> 00:06:53,320 Speaker 1: has to be some hesitation about him walking out that door. 129 00:06:53,400 --> 00:06:55,480 Speaker 1: And because you want him to come home. You wanted 130 00:06:55,480 --> 00:06:57,239 Speaker 1: to when you when you call that phone, you wanted 131 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,119 Speaker 1: to answer. You wanted to be there when he's happy. 132 00:06:59,160 --> 00:07:00,920 Speaker 1: You want to be there when he's said. But you 133 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,320 Speaker 1: want to be there when somebody's doing him wrong because 134 00:07:03,360 --> 00:07:05,400 Speaker 1: you didn't put eighteen years of your life into him 135 00:07:05,640 --> 00:07:08,559 Speaker 1: or bring him into this world for ignorance to step into, 136 00:07:09,040 --> 00:07:12,480 Speaker 1: you know, shortening his life or causing difficulty in his life. 137 00:07:14,240 --> 00:07:19,680 Speaker 1: We've always taught our sons to respect authority, to not 138 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 1: run your mouth, not to talk back when a police 139 00:07:24,680 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: or a teacher or any of those is talking to you. 140 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:31,320 Speaker 1: But one of the most important things we try to 141 00:07:31,360 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 1: teach our sons do not have an encounter with the police. 142 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:40,760 Speaker 1: So it means abiding by the law, not speeding when 143 00:07:40,800 --> 00:07:45,160 Speaker 1: you're driving down the highway. And we had always thought 144 00:07:45,280 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: if we taught our boys be respectful, follow the rules, 145 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:55,920 Speaker 1: that they would always come home and George Floyd that 146 00:07:56,080 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: video last year showed us that you don't have to 147 00:08:00,480 --> 00:08:04,080 Speaker 1: be doing anything illegal, you don't have to be running, 148 00:08:04,440 --> 00:08:07,880 Speaker 1: you don't have to be talking back, and you could 149 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:14,320 Speaker 1: still lose your life based on someone else's perception of 150 00:08:14,440 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: what they think a black man is. And that's you know, 151 00:08:17,920 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: being a black man. And I think then you and 152 00:08:20,040 --> 00:08:22,840 Speaker 1: and and at the end of the premier episode of 153 00:08:22,880 --> 00:08:25,200 Speaker 1: the eighth season, they do the Fellas get around talking 154 00:08:25,240 --> 00:08:29,040 Speaker 1: about you know, being pulled over being a black man 155 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:32,520 Speaker 1: in America. The reality is that you are raising a 156 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:36,800 Speaker 1: young black man in America and he's going to school. 157 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: Tell us about the school that he's going to, you know, 158 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:41,680 Speaker 1: not in the environment, and how what makes you feel 159 00:08:41,720 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: comfortable about him going because he has to feel comfortable 160 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 1: he's going, okay, but what also is making you feel 161 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,640 Speaker 1: uncomfortable about the environment that he's going to. So the 162 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: school is Lee University in Cleveland, Tennessee. Cleveland, Tennessee is 163 00:08:56,080 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 1: a small town in Tennessee that's near Chattanooga. But I 164 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 1: just remember that during the pandemic the school was closed. 165 00:09:07,600 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: We drove up to Cleveland, Tennessee just to drive around 166 00:09:10,960 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: the campus to see what it was like since he 167 00:09:13,559 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 1: didn't get the traditional tour. Was school open And I 168 00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,120 Speaker 1: just remember as we're driving through this small town of 169 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: Cleveland seeing all of the Confederate flags. So when I 170 00:09:27,640 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 1: saw those, of course I became concerned. Downtown Cleveland has 171 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:37,920 Speaker 1: a Confederate monument which is walking. This is from the school, 172 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 1: and it's a small school, majority white. It's a Christian school. 173 00:09:44,559 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: And the reason we were willing to take the chance 174 00:09:48,480 --> 00:09:52,440 Speaker 1: for him to go to the university. Number one, you 175 00:09:52,559 --> 00:09:56,040 Speaker 1: just hope, you really hope that people who are claiming 176 00:09:56,040 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: to be Christians somehow that God is touching their minds, 177 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 1: their souls, their bodies to really live a Christian life. 178 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,840 Speaker 1: But you know, there were some other basketball players whom 179 00:10:08,920 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 1: he had spoken with over the summer who had not 180 00:10:12,480 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: had any racial encounters, and we're not having any difficult 181 00:10:16,280 --> 00:10:19,480 Speaker 1: time on campus. Is the reason we decided that it 182 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:23,080 Speaker 1: would be okay for him to attend Lee University. You know, 183 00:10:23,160 --> 00:10:25,079 Speaker 1: the interesting thing about it is that this is part 184 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: of marriage to medicine. This is a part of the 185 00:10:27,679 --> 00:10:30,319 Speaker 1: lessons of life, lessons that are relatable to it. Because 186 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,920 Speaker 1: this that that storyline was relatable to me. My daughter was, 187 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,520 Speaker 1: you know, um a tennis phenom at sixteen, and so 188 00:10:37,600 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 1: she was going out there playing. Then she blew out 189 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,640 Speaker 1: a knear nineteen and now she's in college and very 190 00:10:41,640 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 1: happy for her. But the reality is that where can 191 00:10:45,720 --> 00:10:49,440 Speaker 1: you send your Sunday He won't experience racism indirectly or directly, 192 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,160 Speaker 1: you feel me. So, so you're you're basically and you're 193 00:10:53,160 --> 00:10:56,680 Speaker 1: and your husband basically saying, yes, we're uncomfortable, but this 194 00:10:56,840 --> 00:10:59,440 Speaker 1: is life. You know. We hope we've raised them. And 195 00:10:59,480 --> 00:11:01,400 Speaker 1: I'm not putting any words in your mouth. I'm just 196 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,160 Speaker 1: talking like a parent that hopefully we raised it with 197 00:11:04,200 --> 00:11:06,160 Speaker 1: the values like you told him. You know, if it's 198 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:08,679 Speaker 1: a thirty or five drift, thirty or five son, okay, 199 00:11:08,880 --> 00:11:11,199 Speaker 1: you know, a void ignorant for cop pulls you over 200 00:11:11,320 --> 00:11:13,760 Speaker 1: tend to understand. World said yes, sir, no sir, till 201 00:11:13,800 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 1: you get out the car. Get out the car. Don't 202 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:18,520 Speaker 1: we playing loud music unnecessarily? So these are the rules 203 00:11:18,520 --> 00:11:20,559 Speaker 1: that we lived by because of the color of our skin. 204 00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,840 Speaker 1: And like you said, all America, all of America, because 205 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 1: it was involved and it was in the uproar, including 206 00:11:26,240 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: white people when they finally saw and that's I think 207 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: that we all were happy finally when you saw that 208 00:11:31,640 --> 00:11:34,559 Speaker 1: on top of COVID. Because you are a legitimate doctor, 209 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 1: how does that affect your practice and also your daily 210 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,439 Speaker 1: life when COVID came on top of it reality, because 211 00:11:40,640 --> 00:11:42,640 Speaker 1: we all thought Kobe was gonna be a couple of months, 212 00:11:42,720 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: we were turned to normal. It's not right. Working in 213 00:11:47,880 --> 00:11:51,560 Speaker 1: the medical field during a pandemic has been an interesting thing, 214 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 1: you know, continually. I don't work in fear at all, 215 00:11:56,520 --> 00:12:00,959 Speaker 1: but just trying to make sure that I stayed up 216 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:05,200 Speaker 1: to date and educated on this virus because it felt 217 00:12:05,200 --> 00:12:08,560 Speaker 1: like it was changing. Things were changing in the medical 218 00:12:08,600 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 1: field week by week early on, and just making sure 219 00:12:12,160 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: that I updated my patients and encouraged them to stay safe. 220 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:20,800 Speaker 1: You know, I have pregnantatitions during this time, and I 221 00:12:20,840 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: don't want to see them sick. And sometimes the young 222 00:12:24,080 --> 00:12:28,280 Speaker 1: people are a little harder to convince that the virus 223 00:12:28,480 --> 00:12:32,320 Speaker 1: is real and deadly. Well, you know, isn't it when 224 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,240 Speaker 1: we all immortal, When at that age, you know, we 225 00:12:35,320 --> 00:12:37,719 Speaker 1: get safe, we get up. You know, I should tell free, 226 00:12:37,840 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: you know, I should get a flu. I go play 227 00:12:39,320 --> 00:12:41,360 Speaker 1: a game of basketball, and they said, sweat it. Out 228 00:12:41,360 --> 00:12:43,960 Speaker 1: of me, and so trying to sweat it out of 229 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:46,200 Speaker 1: me now because I'll be laying on the court doctor. 230 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: You know. But the beauty of this show is that 231 00:12:50,840 --> 00:12:53,520 Speaker 1: you have friends. You know, one of your friends, and 232 00:12:53,559 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 1: this was one of the lead storylines of the opening season, 233 00:12:57,240 --> 00:13:01,079 Speaker 1: was your friendship with Jackie. Twenty three is in And 234 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna just to let you know that in the 235 00:13:02,800 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 1: in the opening episode, Jackie was constantly talking about getting 236 00:13:07,520 --> 00:13:10,800 Speaker 1: back with you, talking about I just want to reconcile, 237 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:14,040 Speaker 1: and then they showed you constantly, never saying that they 238 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:17,080 Speaker 1: they but you know, I don't know what it is 239 00:13:17,120 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: what it is, and you know, and as a producer 240 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:22,920 Speaker 1: and an editor, I know they can play characters to 241 00:13:23,040 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 1: develop storylines. And so this is a person you've known 242 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: betweent three years. She's an original member of the show, 243 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: along with yourself. Where do you go when you see 244 00:13:30,880 --> 00:13:33,560 Speaker 1: these storylines being developed? And we're gonna get to Heavenly 245 00:13:33,600 --> 00:13:35,320 Speaker 1: in a minute. But I want to talk about the 246 00:13:35,360 --> 00:13:41,120 Speaker 1: friendship of Jackie and Simone m so I again, I 247 00:13:41,280 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: come to reality TV as my authentic self. I'm not 248 00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:49,560 Speaker 1: going to fake a friendship. I Am not going to 249 00:13:49,679 --> 00:13:53,719 Speaker 1: pretend to make up unless my heart is really in it, right, 250 00:13:54,240 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: And Jackie and I have known each other a very 251 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:01,000 Speaker 1: long time, and of all the cast on this show, 252 00:14:01,760 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: she knows me the best. I know her the best, 253 00:14:06,760 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: And I did not want to make up for TV's sake. 254 00:14:13,559 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: I just wasn't interested either we were gonna have a 255 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: genuine sit down conversation or not. But I didn't want 256 00:14:21,080 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: to make up just for TV's sake. And I'm just 257 00:14:24,320 --> 00:14:26,920 Speaker 1: asking now, I don't know, I'm just asking, So what 258 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,520 Speaker 1: is makeup for TV sake versus having a genuine sit down? 259 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:33,240 Speaker 1: Would it be on camera or would it be off 260 00:14:33,280 --> 00:14:37,600 Speaker 1: camera between you and jack It could be either one 261 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: quite frankly, because again, I'm going to express my real 262 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: thoughts and opinions. And it doesn't matter whether a camera 263 00:14:45,440 --> 00:14:48,200 Speaker 1: is rolling or not. When you say true to who 264 00:14:48,280 --> 00:14:51,720 Speaker 1: you are, it doesn't matter whether a camera is present 265 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,840 Speaker 1: or not. Well, you're showing that. Now, you're showing that 266 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:59,280 Speaker 1: now heavenly? How is heavenly? She was a dentist, you know, 267 00:14:59,360 --> 00:15:01,840 Speaker 1: y'all y'a about that a lot throughout the seasons, though 268 00:15:02,360 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 1: we just said Dr Dannis. Even Anila came in cracking 269 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 1: jokes jokes. She's a blogger, okay, gonna crack jokes on 270 00:15:09,680 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: the dentist um. So how does she get in between 271 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:19,120 Speaker 1: the two of you? Guys? Did I miss that episode? Well? So, 272 00:15:20,680 --> 00:15:25,520 Speaker 1: in actual in actuality, I don't think that heavenly came 273 00:15:25,640 --> 00:15:29,360 Speaker 1: between me and Jackie. And that is how I felt 274 00:15:29,440 --> 00:15:32,480 Speaker 1: last year. But in the pandemic, I spent more time 275 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,440 Speaker 1: at home. I was able to think about things and 276 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:41,960 Speaker 1: get my feelings in check, if you will, and basically 277 00:15:43,080 --> 00:15:45,640 Speaker 1: I mean Heavily and I have gone back and forth, 278 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 1: back and forth, getting along not getting along over the 279 00:15:48,720 --> 00:15:53,280 Speaker 1: years since she started the show on season two. As 280 00:15:53,320 --> 00:15:56,360 Speaker 1: a matter of fact, she hated me and Jackie when 281 00:15:56,400 --> 00:16:00,560 Speaker 1: she started, we hated her. The feeling was mutual, but 282 00:16:00,720 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 1: over the years we had all grown to become close friends. 283 00:16:05,480 --> 00:16:08,240 Speaker 1: But Heaviley and I would get into it. One talk 284 00:16:08,360 --> 00:16:12,120 Speaker 1: for a couple of months on in our camera, and 285 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 1: Jackie always gave me her thoughts and opinions. She would 286 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:22,280 Speaker 1: tell me I think you shouldn't even be taking this stuff, 287 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:25,360 Speaker 1: Heavily saying too serious, you shouldn't be doing this, or 288 00:16:25,400 --> 00:16:28,600 Speaker 1: you should be doing that, And she always talked to 289 00:16:28,680 --> 00:16:32,960 Speaker 1: both of us. This time, my friend of twenty three 290 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: years decided she didn't have any words on it because 291 00:16:38,240 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: I guess she didn't want to hurt my feelings. But 292 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:45,280 Speaker 1: she knows me she had never been her tongue before, 293 00:16:45,920 --> 00:16:49,640 Speaker 1: and you know that expression, cat got your tongue, I'll 294 00:16:49,680 --> 00:16:52,560 Speaker 1: just leave you with the cash. Well, you know when 295 00:16:52,640 --> 00:16:54,840 Speaker 1: y'all didn't have a sit down when she said that 296 00:16:54,920 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: she was gonna be it was on camera that she 297 00:16:57,320 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: didn't want to make a decision, she want to make it, 298 00:16:59,720 --> 00:17:01,720 Speaker 1: and that then you took that very personal. And so 299 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: I see now you know Dr Heavenly, who is a 300 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:09,400 Speaker 1: dentist by the way, is uh is reveling in this breakup. 301 00:17:09,440 --> 00:17:12,080 Speaker 1: I think she's reveling and driving a wage between the 302 00:17:12,119 --> 00:17:16,120 Speaker 1: relationship and personally, and I pertually I don't think Jackie 303 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:18,960 Speaker 1: sees that. Am I correcting assuming that I think Jackie 304 00:17:19,000 --> 00:17:22,280 Speaker 1: is not eve or she's or she has developed a 305 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:27,000 Speaker 1: wall of stubbornness to say that she's not gonna be bothered. 306 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 1: So I don't think. I definitely think Jackie is aware 307 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 1: of what Heavenly is doing. But Heavenly is also Jackie's bulldog, right, 308 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,760 Speaker 1: and so maybe that is just the strategy that you'd 309 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 1: rather have this bulldog who defends you. Even on the 310 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:53,879 Speaker 1: days you're wrong, She's still defending you with An interesting 311 00:17:53,920 --> 00:17:56,159 Speaker 1: thing about my show is called money Making Conversation. You 312 00:17:56,200 --> 00:17:59,560 Speaker 1: are an entrepreneur or small business, let's talk about that 313 00:17:59,600 --> 00:18:03,280 Speaker 1: whole I says of dealing with because people who want 314 00:18:03,280 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 1: to hear anybody show about advice? What would you give 315 00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,359 Speaker 1: and old starting to practice? How would you hire people? 316 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: I always tell people you gotta have a great r 317 00:18:10,600 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 1: HR person when you you gotta have a great accountant. 318 00:18:13,040 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 1: That's my early notes to anybody is starting to start, 319 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: especially accountant. Don't be sitting over there talking to trying 320 00:18:17,680 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 1: to do books by yourself and you've never done books before. 321 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,680 Speaker 1: So as a as a as an entrepreneur who start 322 00:18:23,760 --> 00:18:26,920 Speaker 1: up because you represent you know, the fastest growing population 323 00:18:26,960 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: and entrepreneurship or African American females. And you are an 324 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 1: African American female, you are star, you are brand. Talk 325 00:18:33,280 --> 00:18:36,320 Speaker 1: about being a small business owner just when you started, 326 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:40,760 Speaker 1: but also now doing COVID nineteen. What I would talk 327 00:18:41,080 --> 00:18:46,320 Speaker 1: what I would recommend for anybody who is starting a business, 328 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:51,240 Speaker 1: doing as much research as you possibly can before you 329 00:18:51,280 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: start your business. Know the industry you're going into. Know 330 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:58,800 Speaker 1: some of the pitfalls of the industry you're going into. 331 00:18:59,400 --> 00:19:04,240 Speaker 1: And or me, I was already practicing medicine before I 332 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 1: opened up a business. You can't even imagine how hard 333 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 1: it's going to be until you actually open those doors. 334 00:19:13,720 --> 00:19:16,040 Speaker 1: But I do agree with you that you have to 335 00:19:16,160 --> 00:19:21,239 Speaker 1: have an accountant who gives you advice regularly. And what 336 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:24,760 Speaker 1: I like to say is count all your pennies, look 337 00:19:24,840 --> 00:19:28,680 Speaker 1: for your pennies, figure out ways when you're buying supplies 338 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,760 Speaker 1: that you could save money because you may be only 339 00:19:32,800 --> 00:19:37,080 Speaker 1: buying from this supplier, but then somebody over here has 340 00:19:37,119 --> 00:19:41,520 Speaker 1: a cheaper Learn how to build relationships so that when 341 00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,159 Speaker 1: you need help you can get help. You need a 342 00:19:44,240 --> 00:19:50,880 Speaker 1: banking relationship, that relationship with an accountant. You need relationships 343 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:53,920 Speaker 1: with people in the industry who are doing the exact 344 00:19:53,960 --> 00:19:57,399 Speaker 1: same thing you're doing, just to get advice on the 345 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 1: pitfalls when they actually happened, how to get out of 346 00:20:01,680 --> 00:20:06,760 Speaker 1: those pitfalls, and just know that no matter what happens, 347 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:11,320 Speaker 1: you can always depend on yourself in business for yourself. 348 00:20:11,520 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 1: There you go. Now, when one going closing question is 349 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:17,119 Speaker 1: about you didn't plan on because we talked about budget, 350 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,760 Speaker 1: you said, always count your pinions, know where every penny is. 351 00:20:20,240 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 1: We did not think, and I'm saying I'm a business owner, 352 00:20:22,359 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 1: I did not see masking my budget. I didn't see 353 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:28,920 Speaker 1: hand sanitizing my budget. I didn't see working from home 354 00:20:29,000 --> 00:20:32,120 Speaker 1: and my budget and telling medicine. I'm sure we'll picked 355 00:20:32,200 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: up strongly in your business. But like I said, you're 356 00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:36,720 Speaker 1: dealing with with you know O. B. G. Ryan profession, 357 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:40,280 Speaker 1: So tell the medicine almost like what is that? So? 358 00:20:40,520 --> 00:20:44,920 Speaker 1: How did that affect your business model? And also your employees? 359 00:20:45,080 --> 00:20:46,960 Speaker 1: How did you work through that? Like I was able 360 00:20:47,000 --> 00:20:50,359 Speaker 1: to do teleconferencing because I'm just dealing with graphics and 361 00:20:50,400 --> 00:20:53,120 Speaker 1: I'm a production company, but you're in medicine. How did 362 00:20:53,119 --> 00:20:54,840 Speaker 1: you deal with that? And how did your patients deal 363 00:20:54,880 --> 00:21:01,960 Speaker 1: with that? So definitely finding ppet you purchase and purchasing 364 00:21:02,040 --> 00:21:06,119 Speaker 1: ppe was an additional expense. But what I tell any 365 00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:10,439 Speaker 1: anybody who's in business for themselves, always save for a 366 00:21:10,520 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: rainy day because if you have savings, when you run 367 00:21:14,320 --> 00:21:18,720 Speaker 1: into these additional expenses, it just shouldn't be that big 368 00:21:18,760 --> 00:21:21,439 Speaker 1: of a deal. So you either have the savings or 369 00:21:21,520 --> 00:21:24,600 Speaker 1: you have a credit line with the bank available to 370 00:21:24,760 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: help you in a in a financial need. But with staff, 371 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:34,240 Speaker 1: I tried to stay calm and try to reassure them. 372 00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:37,879 Speaker 1: For me with pregnant patients, I was not able to 373 00:21:37,920 --> 00:21:41,840 Speaker 1: do all of the visits using tele medicine. Surely we 374 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,040 Speaker 1: did some, but not all. And what I did was 375 00:21:47,640 --> 00:21:51,080 Speaker 1: we continue to come to the office. We shortened the 376 00:21:51,160 --> 00:21:54,840 Speaker 1: office hours, and I continue to make payroll for the 377 00:21:54,960 --> 00:21:58,879 Speaker 1: full forty hours a week. But again, just looking for 378 00:21:59,040 --> 00:22:03,840 Speaker 1: resources out there, there were a ton of resources available 379 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:07,760 Speaker 1: to small businesses. I applied for the P P P loan. 380 00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,239 Speaker 1: My big bank didn't give it to me, so I 381 00:22:10,280 --> 00:22:15,040 Speaker 1: went to my small bank. And again I have two banks. 382 00:22:15,359 --> 00:22:17,520 Speaker 1: I have the big bank, I have the small bank. 383 00:22:18,400 --> 00:22:21,080 Speaker 1: Nobody told me to do it that way. That is 384 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:25,240 Speaker 1: just one of those life lessons that I learned early 385 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:28,040 Speaker 1: on in practice. And I've been in solo practice since 386 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: two thousand four. So you learn things, and there are 387 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:36,639 Speaker 1: always gonna be hiccups and speed bumps. You just have 388 00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:41,960 Speaker 1: to learn something from every speed bump in the road. Well, 389 00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:43,760 Speaker 1: you know, I gotta close, and I said, was my 390 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,560 Speaker 1: last question, but I have to bring this up because 391 00:22:45,600 --> 00:22:49,320 Speaker 1: my wife is important in my life. You know, those 392 00:22:49,320 --> 00:22:51,440 Speaker 1: speed bumps. As you're talking about those speed bumps, you 393 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,800 Speaker 1: gotta turn to somebody for some truth and sometimes for 394 00:22:54,880 --> 00:22:57,000 Speaker 1: some advice. Sometimes that truth is not what you want 395 00:22:57,000 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: to hear, but it also comes with good advice because 396 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:01,399 Speaker 1: you of that person is going to be honest with you. 397 00:23:01,440 --> 00:23:04,119 Speaker 1: So I'm leaving my question to your husband, who plays 398 00:23:04,160 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 1: an amazing support role. I'm gonna just tell you, doctor, 399 00:23:06,760 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a fan of yours. I've always been a 400 00:23:09,440 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 1: fan of yours. And when you had that conversation with 401 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:13,960 Speaker 1: your son when he was shooting the basketball, I was 402 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 1: over the roof with you because that was pure. That 403 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: was pure, honestly to me, you know, because it was 404 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 1: relatable to me, and uh and it and it and it, 405 00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:23,720 Speaker 1: and it was a seed that bore out of your 406 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: husband being there. Because African American young men need that male, 407 00:23:28,000 --> 00:23:30,639 Speaker 1: that male. Look how to treat women, Look how what 408 00:23:30,800 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 1: you do in all these different situations. To talk about 409 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:37,320 Speaker 1: your strong support group. You know my man, talk about 410 00:23:37,359 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 1: him right quick before we close it out. So Cecil 411 00:23:40,960 --> 00:23:44,200 Speaker 1: and I have been married for twenty five years, and 412 00:23:44,240 --> 00:23:47,919 Speaker 1: he has definitely been a great sounding board. When I 413 00:23:48,119 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: asked him about business advice and he loves to do research. 414 00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:59,719 Speaker 1: But as any marriage goals, we have certainly had our struggles. 415 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:03,520 Speaker 1: Our marriage actually came to the brink of the brink 416 00:24:03,560 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: of a divorce, which I shared on reality TV, and 417 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:12,480 Speaker 1: I was so thankful for this reality TV family who 418 00:24:12,560 --> 00:24:15,600 Speaker 1: helped us to realize that we were being stubborn. We 419 00:24:15,680 --> 00:24:19,199 Speaker 1: had stopped listening to one another, and we were able 420 00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: not only to reconcile, but to make some differences in 421 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:27,280 Speaker 1: our marriage so that we could keep on going in 422 00:24:27,640 --> 00:24:30,600 Speaker 1: and not just keep going, but keep going strong with 423 00:24:30,760 --> 00:24:33,280 Speaker 1: my friend. Thank you for coming on Money Making Conversations. 424 00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:35,200 Speaker 1: I just want to really lay it on the line 425 00:24:35,200 --> 00:24:37,200 Speaker 1: because I know you do a lot of interviews and 426 00:24:37,200 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: and I try not to be fake when I bring people. 427 00:24:39,080 --> 00:24:41,160 Speaker 1: I try to do my research, I try to acknowledge 428 00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:43,439 Speaker 1: the fact, and I try to give good questions to 429 00:24:43,480 --> 00:24:46,080 Speaker 1: allow you to move the conversation forward. But more importantly, 430 00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:47,840 Speaker 1: I only want people on my shot. 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They can 473 00:27:15,640 --> 00:27:19,440 Speaker 1: beecific leaders, people in business, activists, celebrities and everyday dance. 474 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,560 Speaker 1: The Cafe Maka Swag Award honorary this weekend. Jermaine Duprix, 475 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 1: his age of seventeen did not limit his dreams. Now 476 00:27:26,680 --> 00:27:29,840 Speaker 1: a multi Grammy Award winning producer, Jermaine Dupris with a 477 00:27:30,000 --> 00:27:32,720 Speaker 1: four hundred million records sold today is a member of 478 00:27:32,720 --> 00:27:35,159 Speaker 1: the Songwriter's Hall of Fame and is one of the 479 00:27:35,200 --> 00:27:38,720 Speaker 1: most successful producers in the music industry today. I had 480 00:27:38,720 --> 00:27:41,560 Speaker 1: to go through so much as a younger person to 481 00:27:41,680 --> 00:27:44,920 Speaker 1: get older people to even have a conversation. So therefore 482 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,120 Speaker 1: I listened to younger people because they have amazing ideas, 483 00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,240 Speaker 1: but the execution of them ideas when you're young, you 484 00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,359 Speaker 1: don't know how to do it. I had TLC and 485 00:27:53,400 --> 00:27:55,480 Speaker 1: Chris Cross at the same time, but I was too 486 00:27:55,560 --> 00:27:57,320 Speaker 1: young to know what to do with both of them 487 00:27:57,320 --> 00:28:00,000 Speaker 1: at the same time. The Cafe Marka Swag Award represents 488 00:28:00,080 --> 00:28:03,080 Speaker 1: man who have strength, whose wisdom is assertive, and who 489 00:28:03,119 --> 00:28:06,560 Speaker 1: was genuine in their spirit. Welcome back to money making 490 00:28:06,600 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: Conversations with your host, Rashan McDonald. My next guest, I've 491 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,680 Speaker 1: known a very long time Dr Ian Smith. He's the first. 492 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:15,400 Speaker 1: Let me give you a history on his books here 493 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 1: first New York Times bestselling author of Cleaning Lean, The 494 00:28:19,680 --> 00:28:23,280 Speaker 1: Clean twenty Shred, Super Shred, The Shred, Power Cleans, and 495 00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,639 Speaker 1: The Blast to Sugar Out, which I recommended for my 496 00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:29,240 Speaker 1: mama and she used it dearly until she passed away. 497 00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:32,640 Speaker 1: As the host of the syndicated television show The Doctors, 498 00:28:32,640 --> 00:28:35,320 Speaker 1: he has created two national health initiatives. I was involved 499 00:28:35,359 --> 00:28:38,760 Speaker 1: in the first one fifty Million Challenge with Steve Harvey 500 00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: and Stay Farmed and the Makeover Miles. So I got 501 00:28:41,240 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: great history, Dr Ian Smith and served two terms on 502 00:28:44,080 --> 00:28:47,600 Speaker 1: the President's Council on Fitness, Sports and Nutrition. Dr n 503 00:28:47,640 --> 00:28:50,320 Speaker 1: Smith the Here's to talk about his newest book, fast 504 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:54,560 Speaker 1: Burned The Power of Negative Energy Balance. This Marxist twentieth book, 505 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: fast Burn was released on April thirteen. Checked this out 506 00:28:58,280 --> 00:29:01,960 Speaker 1: and immediately his numerous best sellers hit list grew. The 507 00:29:02,000 --> 00:29:04,200 Speaker 1: book debated in number nine the New York Times Best 508 00:29:04,200 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 1: Seller List and number nineteen the USA Today best Seller 509 00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:10,160 Speaker 1: List and number Nino publish a weekly best seller list. 510 00:29:10,240 --> 00:29:14,280 Speaker 1: Please welcome back again, A dear friend and inspiration and 511 00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,920 Speaker 1: uh and a real doctor by the way, doctor to 512 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,320 Speaker 1: money Making Comfortation. Dr Ian Smith, How you doing, my 513 00:29:20,360 --> 00:29:23,080 Speaker 1: brother and Vershano great, great to join you. How you 514 00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:25,880 Speaker 1: feeling really good? Man? You just still look at Trie. 515 00:29:26,000 --> 00:29:28,160 Speaker 1: You're still looking at good you know. You know, I 516 00:29:29,120 --> 00:29:31,000 Speaker 1: guess I've been seeing all the way back to Jenny 517 00:29:31,080 --> 00:29:34,160 Speaker 1: Jones days. Right. Yeah, it's been a long time. And 518 00:29:34,200 --> 00:29:35,880 Speaker 1: I you know, I was saying to you before we 519 00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:39,360 Speaker 1: started the broadcast that you know, I'm getting old like 520 00:29:39,400 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: everybody else. However, I'm in the fight. I think that 521 00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:43,800 Speaker 1: in life and a fight in a good way, not 522 00:29:43,840 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: a negative way. But you know, you can't just resign 523 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,520 Speaker 1: yourself to things just happening. You have to say, I'm 524 00:29:50,520 --> 00:29:53,520 Speaker 1: gonna be convicted and determined um to make a way 525 00:29:53,560 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: out of nowhere. And so what I try to do 526 00:29:55,080 --> 00:29:57,640 Speaker 1: all the time is and I'm not always successful, but 527 00:29:57,640 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 1: I try every day to be a better me when 528 00:30:00,560 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 1: it comes to the physical aspect. You know, I work 529 00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: out with a lot of weights. I try to eat better. 530 00:30:04,880 --> 00:30:06,400 Speaker 1: I'm not perfect in my eating, but I try to 531 00:30:06,440 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: eat better. Uh. And I think that if people follow 532 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 1: just that basic kind of idea that I'm going to 533 00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 1: be better in my physical movement better and my nutritional intake. 534 00:30:15,160 --> 00:30:17,360 Speaker 1: I think people be happier and look better and feel 535 00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,280 Speaker 1: better when the thing about our relationship is that you know, 536 00:30:21,320 --> 00:30:24,520 Speaker 1: I got bad eating habits and so and people always say, man, 537 00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 1: but you don't look like you eat habits because I 538 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,320 Speaker 1: read his books. You know, I'm one of them. I'm 539 00:30:28,320 --> 00:30:30,480 Speaker 1: one of them. I want them good and bad customers. 540 00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:32,960 Speaker 1: You know, when when when it gets bad, Doc, I 541 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:34,920 Speaker 1: go to your book. When it's when it's good, I 542 00:30:34,920 --> 00:30:37,240 Speaker 1: get off your book. You know what what I'm saying. But 543 00:30:37,240 --> 00:30:42,560 Speaker 1: but it allows me a system of of direction. And 544 00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 1: I think that's what we're trying to talk about here, 545 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:47,600 Speaker 1: because so many people out there have health, health issues, 546 00:30:47,920 --> 00:30:50,440 Speaker 1: they have weight issues because they don't have direction and 547 00:30:50,440 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: also a direction that's uh. I think it's tied to 548 00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: common sense. And that's what I've always felt that your 549 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:58,760 Speaker 1: books are tied to common sense. Correct. Yeah, you know 550 00:30:58,840 --> 00:31:01,520 Speaker 1: it's interesting you say that because so many people will 551 00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,560 Speaker 1: say to me, well on Instagram or Facebook with dr Ian, 552 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:08,400 Speaker 1: I'm doing this, and I'm doing that, and I'm doing this. 553 00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,960 Speaker 1: But the problem is it's not that people don't often 554 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,760 Speaker 1: know what to do or how to do it. It's 555 00:31:14,800 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: that they don't have structure. Right. You gotta have structure. 556 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 1: You just can't say I'm gonna eat better, but what 557 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,760 Speaker 1: does that mean? I'm going to exercise better? What does 558 00:31:21,760 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: that mean? And so I tell people all the time, yeah, 559 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 1: well you know, yeah, what you're doing what it sounds like. 560 00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:29,360 Speaker 1: It sounds good, but it's not working well because we 561 00:31:29,360 --> 00:31:32,480 Speaker 1: need structures in our in our life, and with fast burn, 562 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,000 Speaker 1: the structure is very simple. It's nine weeks um. It's 563 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,840 Speaker 1: based on affordable, regular, accessible food. You have to go 564 00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: to five different grocery stores to buy it. But it's realistic. 565 00:31:42,120 --> 00:31:45,200 Speaker 1: That's the key. Rashan. A plan is not going to 566 00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,040 Speaker 1: work for people if it's not sustainable and realistic. And 567 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 1: so I wrote this plan from the standpoint of the 568 00:31:50,800 --> 00:31:52,719 Speaker 1: use of What I mean by that, I mean I 569 00:31:52,760 --> 00:31:55,440 Speaker 1: asked two thousand people in my Facebook group to try 570 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:58,120 Speaker 1: out the original draft of the plan and they gave 571 00:31:58,160 --> 00:32:00,000 Speaker 1: you their feedback. What they liked, but they didn't lie 572 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:03,080 Speaker 1: would work. What didn't work? Uh, The average weight loss 573 00:32:03,120 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: was fifteen and seventeen pounds and nine weeks. And as 574 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:08,239 Speaker 1: much as I helped them, they helped me because I 575 00:32:08,280 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: realized there are certain ways to make it easier. So, 576 00:32:10,240 --> 00:32:12,640 Speaker 1: for example, things that people took me complain about in 577 00:32:12,680 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: the program I took care of. You can have alcohol 578 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 1: on the program. There's pasta, there's bread, there's stay, there's pizza. 579 00:32:20,920 --> 00:32:24,600 Speaker 1: I mean all these things, uh that programs say you 580 00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,880 Speaker 1: cannot have. I said, you can still have it, but 581 00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 1: let's do it in a way where we have in 582 00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,840 Speaker 1: a healthier manner, but equally tasty. Right, you can't go 583 00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 1: healthy and still not be tasty. So I try to 584 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 1: do both and fast and fast burned. And I think 585 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 1: that's why people like it. Well, it's it's gonna be 586 00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,480 Speaker 1: proved to be my favorite now because you know, as 587 00:32:45,520 --> 00:32:48,080 Speaker 1: I stated earlier, I am not the best patient. You know, 588 00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:52,000 Speaker 1: if if if Dr his was my was my doctor officially, Rashan, 589 00:32:52,120 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 1: come on that stop you really really really tripping that. 590 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: But in your book you you allow me to. I 591 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,840 Speaker 1: think eat in proportion, which is really always the key too, 592 00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:05,720 Speaker 1: and when you eat is the key as well. And 593 00:33:05,760 --> 00:33:08,560 Speaker 1: like I said, it's also knowing your body, because you 594 00:33:08,600 --> 00:33:10,560 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about that, because a lot of 595 00:33:10,600 --> 00:33:12,400 Speaker 1: people don't listen to their body. They don't listen to 596 00:33:12,400 --> 00:33:14,280 Speaker 1: the wady body when you're telling you, you know, because 597 00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:16,080 Speaker 1: that's why I always heeds the story about people talking about, 598 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,120 Speaker 1: oh he looks so healthy, Well, I bet you if 599 00:33:19,160 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: you don't went to a doctor. The doctor they ever 600 00:33:21,080 --> 00:33:23,880 Speaker 1: told me how to high blood pressure, high cholesterol level, 601 00:33:24,160 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 1: talk about that whole process. Because your book is, like 602 00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: I said, it's a true guide, but there are all 603 00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:31,800 Speaker 1: steps that they have to take to go along with 604 00:33:31,840 --> 00:33:35,120 Speaker 1: your book to be successful. Yeah, you know, it's interesting. 605 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:38,320 Speaker 1: I think that. Um, what people have to understand is 606 00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: that these books are blueprints. Yes, folks, are not the Bible. 607 00:33:43,600 --> 00:33:46,880 Speaker 1: This book says, this is a guide for you. And 608 00:33:47,000 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: the reason why people really like fast Burn is because 609 00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: it's so customizable. Like when you think about it, you know, 610 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,760 Speaker 1: no one wants to be dictated to what they have 611 00:33:54,880 --> 00:33:57,240 Speaker 1: to eat every day, but they don't want to have options. 612 00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:59,680 Speaker 1: So there are options in the book. Every day, every 613 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:04,360 Speaker 1: meal that has options to it. So you're vegan, vegetarian, paskeeterian, carnivore, 614 00:34:04,440 --> 00:34:07,280 Speaker 1: doesn't matter. You can make it work for you. So 615 00:34:07,360 --> 00:34:09,399 Speaker 1: you have you have lots of options. Then the other 616 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,279 Speaker 1: part of it is some people say, well, you know, 617 00:34:11,360 --> 00:34:12,839 Speaker 1: I don't want to go to a gym. I don't 618 00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,920 Speaker 1: like to go to a gym. I said, no, chapter thirteen. 619 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: These are all at home exercises you can do without 620 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:22,320 Speaker 1: a gym membership, without the need for machines. Thirty minutes, 621 00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:24,920 Speaker 1: forty four or five days a week, and you know what, 622 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:26,680 Speaker 1: you can break it up fifteen minutes in the morning, 623 00:34:26,880 --> 00:34:29,880 Speaker 1: fifteen in the afternoon. So I think that people really 624 00:34:30,480 --> 00:34:34,960 Speaker 1: are looking for plans that are allowing them not just 625 00:34:35,040 --> 00:34:37,919 Speaker 1: to diet rashan for the short term, but to make 626 00:34:38,120 --> 00:34:41,359 Speaker 1: lifestyle changes. That's why I'm interested. I'm interested in you 627 00:34:42,160 --> 00:34:45,520 Speaker 1: making a lifestyle change that you can live with. And 628 00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,520 Speaker 1: so do I want you to be perfect? No? Do 629 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,239 Speaker 1: I expect you to be perfect? Absolutely not. But let 630 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:53,640 Speaker 1: me give an example. If you know you're going out 631 00:34:53,680 --> 00:34:55,759 Speaker 1: to dinner, and you know you're going to a place 632 00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,200 Speaker 1: that doesn't have the healthiest of foods, I want you 633 00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,239 Speaker 1: in your mind to say, you know what to night, 634 00:35:00,640 --> 00:35:02,640 Speaker 1: We're eating at so and so restaurant where it's not 635 00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,640 Speaker 1: a lot of great choices. So for breakfast and lunch, 636 00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,960 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be really good. I'm gonna really make sure 637 00:35:09,280 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: that I make smart decisions. So when dinner time comes 638 00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:14,960 Speaker 1: and I have whatever I'm gonna have, I don't feel guilty. 639 00:35:15,040 --> 00:35:17,319 Speaker 1: Number One and number two, it's not gonna really hurt 640 00:35:17,360 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 1: me because I ate so well early the day that 641 00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:22,120 Speaker 1: to me is the better way to live life. You 642 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:24,480 Speaker 1: don't want to always be on a restricted, you know, 643 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:28,120 Speaker 1: heavily specified program. I want you to do a fast 644 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 1: burn for nine weeks, then I want you to put 645 00:35:30,000 --> 00:35:32,520 Speaker 1: it on the shelf and say, okay, now I am 646 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,440 Speaker 1: prepared in all the situations that come at me to 647 00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,720 Speaker 1: make better decisions. Whether the better decision part comes into 648 00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:41,799 Speaker 1: what we're talking about. Your career has always been tied 649 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 1: to I'm not gonna I'm lead a book a little 650 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: bit because your role as host of the Doctors, which 651 00:35:47,719 --> 00:35:51,520 Speaker 1: was a groundbreaking to me. Also it was groundbreaking because 652 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,120 Speaker 1: it happened during COVID and you are a real doctor. 653 00:35:55,400 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: It affected African Americans overtly people of color over lead. 654 00:36:00,640 --> 00:36:04,640 Speaker 1: And so with that being said, your role as as 655 00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:06,759 Speaker 1: happy as we were because you came on my show, 656 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:08,880 Speaker 1: we talked about it, what you're gonna do, but we 657 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,440 Speaker 1: all we all thought that COVID would kind of like 658 00:36:11,520 --> 00:36:13,600 Speaker 1: come and go, and now we see it's not gonna 659 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 1: go at all. It's kind of like going to be 660 00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:20,440 Speaker 1: like the flu. We're gonna have seasonal uh COVID eighteen shots. Look, 661 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:23,399 Speaker 1: we talk two questions. The first question is coming into 662 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,080 Speaker 1: perspective your role in what you had to play as 663 00:36:26,160 --> 00:36:28,960 Speaker 1: the host of The Doctors and COVID eighteen. And then 664 00:36:29,000 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 1: the long term would be my second of us living 665 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:36,399 Speaker 1: with COVID. Yeah, two great questions. So the reason why 666 00:36:36,440 --> 00:36:38,920 Speaker 1: I agreed to host the show this year was because 667 00:36:39,480 --> 00:36:43,120 Speaker 1: if you think back before this year, there was a 668 00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:48,560 Speaker 1: lot of misinformation, a lot of you know, incredible discredible 669 00:36:48,600 --> 00:36:52,520 Speaker 1: information that was being disseminated from the White House on down, 670 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: and I thought like the country was confused and that 671 00:36:55,640 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: doctors and scientists were not leading the conversation. If you're 672 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,320 Speaker 1: in a health crisis, the doctors and scientists need to 673 00:37:02,360 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: lead the discussion. If you're in a financial crisis, the 674 00:37:06,040 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: economists need to need a discussion. I mean, this is 675 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:09,880 Speaker 1: just how it works. And so I felt like we 676 00:37:09,920 --> 00:37:12,719 Speaker 1: had spent a year spinning our wheels listening to all 677 00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: kinds of nonsense, and so this to me personally, it 678 00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:19,040 Speaker 1: was a great opportunity to be on a big show 679 00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: with a big flat platform, to bring in experts to 680 00:37:24,160 --> 00:37:26,319 Speaker 1: talk about the issues. And I also wanted to bring 681 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: in diverse experts, because experts come in all shapes and 682 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,520 Speaker 1: sizes and all colors and background So I wanted to 683 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:34,680 Speaker 1: bring people from all walks of life and all experts 684 00:37:34,719 --> 00:37:36,760 Speaker 1: from all different voices to come in on the show. 685 00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:39,160 Speaker 1: So that, to me, person was very important, and I 686 00:37:39,200 --> 00:37:41,320 Speaker 1: think we did a great job of being able to 687 00:37:41,360 --> 00:37:44,200 Speaker 1: communicate to the rest of the country all things related 688 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:47,680 Speaker 1: to COVID, whether it was vaccines, treatment, people who are 689 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:50,400 Speaker 1: long haulers, how do you raise kids during COVID, how 690 00:37:50,400 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 1: do you date during COVID? All these topics were important 691 00:37:53,440 --> 00:37:56,040 Speaker 1: and I think that when I look back at my career, 692 00:37:56,680 --> 00:37:59,040 Speaker 1: this will have been a very important year because I 693 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:04,480 Speaker 1: had some small say in shaping the conversation around COVID 694 00:38:04,640 --> 00:38:07,239 Speaker 1: and and and dealing with COVID and also trying to 695 00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:10,600 Speaker 1: get people on air to talk about it an incredible way. Now, 696 00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,280 Speaker 1: when you look at the long term of COVID, however, uh, 697 00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,600 Speaker 1: we're at We're at a very critical point here because 698 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,719 Speaker 1: people who have not gotten the vaccine, a lot of 699 00:38:20,719 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: them don't want to get the vaccine, and we need 700 00:38:23,800 --> 00:38:27,120 Speaker 1: to still reach what's called herd immunity, which basically says 701 00:38:27,560 --> 00:38:30,759 Speaker 1: that enough people have either gotten vaccinated or been infected, 702 00:38:31,120 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: that the vast majority of the population is immune to 703 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,520 Speaker 1: getting sick and infected again herd immunity. Now, there are 704 00:38:39,520 --> 00:38:41,600 Speaker 1: two ways to get to hurt immunity. You can get 705 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:44,759 Speaker 1: there by vaccinating everybody. That's the fastest way to do it, 706 00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:48,040 Speaker 1: that's the less costly way to do as far as life. 707 00:38:48,719 --> 00:38:52,200 Speaker 1: If you vaccinate everybody, we save lives. We get hurt immunity. 708 00:38:52,400 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 1: But some people won't take the vaccine. So what does 709 00:38:55,080 --> 00:38:57,640 Speaker 1: that mean? We can still return immunity. But what that 710 00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:00,200 Speaker 1: means is the people who do not want to take 711 00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,799 Speaker 1: the vaccine, eventually we'll get infected because the virus is 712 00:39:03,840 --> 00:39:06,359 Speaker 1: like the cold virus, It's just gonna stay there and 713 00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,080 Speaker 1: so those who don't. So imagine a hundred people, imagine 714 00:39:10,160 --> 00:39:13,440 Speaker 1: eighty people get the vaccine. That means those eight people 715 00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:17,440 Speaker 1: are protected. Now you've got twenty people. Okay, these twenty 716 00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: people who do not want the vaccine, the virus is 717 00:39:20,680 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: gonna circulate within them. And then once you get infected, 718 00:39:25,120 --> 00:39:27,439 Speaker 1: then you will have some type of immunity. That's what happens, right, 719 00:39:27,560 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: They'll get infected, If they survive, they will have some immunity. 720 00:39:31,120 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 1: We don't know how long that immunity lasts. We don't 721 00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:34,600 Speaker 1: know how long, how good it is. But they will 722 00:39:34,640 --> 00:39:37,160 Speaker 1: have some immunity. But what about the people who get 723 00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:39,600 Speaker 1: it and will die from So you're gonna reach her 724 00:39:39,719 --> 00:39:42,160 Speaker 1: immunity one way or the other. I just think we 725 00:39:42,160 --> 00:39:45,160 Speaker 1: should do it without losing a lot more loss of life. Well, 726 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:49,239 Speaker 1: we're all losing lives. And I'm gonna tell you I 727 00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:52,080 Speaker 1: never took the flu vaccine. I have been. I've told 728 00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:55,200 Speaker 1: about my visor to both of my vaccination shots. In 729 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:57,239 Speaker 1: the time of the man, I feel comfortable. It kind 730 00:39:57,239 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 1: of gave me my life back. I'm not gonna lie 731 00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:01,960 Speaker 1: to you doctors. I was like, you know, I was 732 00:40:01,800 --> 00:40:03,759 Speaker 1: a high degree. I was paring or I'm not gonna 733 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:05,520 Speaker 1: lie to you. First, when the first hit, I didn't 734 00:40:05,520 --> 00:40:07,920 Speaker 1: know how to go out the store. Let loan Phillip 735 00:40:07,960 --> 00:40:09,880 Speaker 1: put gas in my car. What do I touch? What 736 00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,640 Speaker 1: I don't touch? What? How well? How do I do 737 00:40:11,760 --> 00:40:13,239 Speaker 1: touch with string? Will when they get back in the car? 738 00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:15,000 Speaker 1: Door A touch the door, doll went open? The door, 739 00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,799 Speaker 1: the door went open, my car door. So so when 740 00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:20,840 Speaker 1: I got fascinated, I developed a I still wear my 741 00:40:20,920 --> 00:40:22,640 Speaker 1: mask when I go out in public. You know, I 742 00:40:22,680 --> 00:40:25,080 Speaker 1: sit down, I take it off from a eating but 743 00:40:25,719 --> 00:40:27,680 Speaker 1: I really I think that I really want you to 744 00:40:27,719 --> 00:40:31,319 Speaker 1: tell my um my audience about that comfort zone that 745 00:40:31,400 --> 00:40:34,080 Speaker 1: you would get. And I've said it many times, but 746 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,320 Speaker 1: I would just let you know this man, how important 747 00:40:36,320 --> 00:40:38,080 Speaker 1: you are. Sometimes you know, you do stuffing on the 748 00:40:38,120 --> 00:40:42,360 Speaker 1: regular basis. Dr Smith, there are no other black voices, 749 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 1: of voices of your color on TV talking to us. 750 00:40:46,640 --> 00:40:49,120 Speaker 1: I'mderstand that now you know there's some great for Dr 751 00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:53,120 Speaker 1: Varci is great. Dr George great, I love him, go 752 00:40:53,600 --> 00:40:56,879 Speaker 1: he's great, but he's not you. And so and that's 753 00:40:56,920 --> 00:40:59,759 Speaker 1: important that you understand that because you just doing your job, 754 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:02,320 Speaker 1: You're you're brillied at what you do. You you're saving 755 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,319 Speaker 1: lives on the regular basis. Sometimes you don't know that 756 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,839 Speaker 1: you are seven. You just somethings, just doing your job 757 00:41:06,920 --> 00:41:09,080 Speaker 1: like any doctor will do. When you go into the hospital, 758 00:41:09,320 --> 00:41:11,840 Speaker 1: I just feel your hospitals is the TV. Your hospital 759 00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:14,719 Speaker 1: is social media. Your hospital is a public medium, and 760 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:17,120 Speaker 1: so you don't immediately see the results because you're not 761 00:41:17,160 --> 00:41:19,080 Speaker 1: there checking on us once a week, or we're not 762 00:41:19,160 --> 00:41:21,600 Speaker 1: coming in and and checking on with you. But your voice 763 00:41:21,680 --> 00:41:24,360 Speaker 1: as an African American talking to us. It's so important 764 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 1: that at this point for me to get you back 765 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:29,359 Speaker 1: on my show, not only to promote your incredible book, 766 00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,960 Speaker 1: because you've never failed me with your diet planes. I've 767 00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,319 Speaker 1: used them many times. And I've told you many times 768 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:38,040 Speaker 1: when the book that I recommend my mother to use 769 00:41:38,080 --> 00:41:40,319 Speaker 1: your book and used just roll. I said, yes, he's 770 00:41:40,400 --> 00:41:44,120 Speaker 1: using it right now. Okay, and happen. And so what 771 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 1: is your role is? And I am I putting too 772 00:41:46,680 --> 00:41:50,320 Speaker 1: much on your plate? No, no, you're not. You know it. Actually, 773 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:54,319 Speaker 1: While I am happy on one hand, UM to hear 774 00:41:54,440 --> 00:41:57,560 Speaker 1: you being laudatory and complimentary about what I do and 775 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 1: it's impact on people, it's also very sad to me. 776 00:42:00,320 --> 00:42:02,400 Speaker 1: It's sad to me because there are a lot of 777 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 1: other undiscovered doctor Ian's out there who are going to 778 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 1: be better than me at what I do, who are 779 00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:15,040 Speaker 1: equally educated, equally articulate, equally informative, and equally helpful. Uh. 780 00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:18,759 Speaker 1: And they're out there, brothers and sisters. Uh. And you 781 00:42:18,800 --> 00:42:23,120 Speaker 1: know it's lonely being the only UM and it shouldn't 782 00:42:23,160 --> 00:42:25,200 Speaker 1: be that way. We need to have more of our 783 00:42:25,280 --> 00:42:28,239 Speaker 1: young brothers and sisters be given the opportunity not to 784 00:42:28,280 --> 00:42:31,160 Speaker 1: become dr even to be better than Dr Ian. Uh. 785 00:42:31,200 --> 00:42:33,319 Speaker 1: You know, I'll accept that I'm a pioneer in a 786 00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: way and I but my hope is I've paved away 787 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,600 Speaker 1: for more. I'm not one of those people who become 788 00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,920 Speaker 1: successful and then don't turn around, uh and and not 789 00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:43,600 Speaker 1: try to help other people to get through the gates. 790 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,800 Speaker 1: I want as many of us to get through the 791 00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,600 Speaker 1: gates as possible. And I'm just hoping that in this, 792 00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:53,799 Speaker 1: in this this time, this moment of racial awakening and awareness, 793 00:42:54,280 --> 00:42:58,600 Speaker 1: that people will reevaluate all aspects of our society and 794 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:01,480 Speaker 1: look at TV and look at the people who we 795 00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:05,840 Speaker 1: bring on to talk about education and law and politics 796 00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:09,760 Speaker 1: and medicine, and realize we gotta have diverse voices talking. 797 00:43:10,040 --> 00:43:12,000 Speaker 1: It just can't be the same people all the time. 798 00:43:12,080 --> 00:43:15,239 Speaker 1: So while I've been very blessed to have my platform, 799 00:43:15,320 --> 00:43:18,560 Speaker 1: and you guys invite me always to be on your platforms, 800 00:43:19,160 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: there are a lot of younger brothers and sisters who 801 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:22,560 Speaker 1: can do the same thing, and I want them to 802 00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:24,440 Speaker 1: have a chance. As I said to you before the 803 00:43:24,440 --> 00:43:27,319 Speaker 1: show started, listen, man, I'm getting older. I've been doing 804 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,719 Speaker 1: this for almost twenty five years. This time for me 805 00:43:30,800 --> 00:43:33,120 Speaker 1: to go out and play more golf and be with 806 00:43:33,160 --> 00:43:35,799 Speaker 1: my family, and I still write books, but but I 807 00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:39,520 Speaker 1: want to leave the stage and hand it off to 808 00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:43,400 Speaker 1: somebody else. Um. But people who are in charge of 809 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:47,359 Speaker 1: who gets on the stage need to have the awareness, 810 00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,440 Speaker 1: um and the open mindedness to bring others in. And 811 00:43:50,480 --> 00:43:53,560 Speaker 1: that's that's what's important to me, Rashan, is that other 812 00:43:53,600 --> 00:43:57,400 Speaker 1: people get a chance to voice. I am not uniquely intelligent. 813 00:43:57,440 --> 00:44:00,520 Speaker 1: There are other intelligent people who have gone to eight schools, 814 00:44:00,560 --> 00:44:03,120 Speaker 1: who have great information, who can say the same thing, 815 00:44:03,360 --> 00:44:05,200 Speaker 1: if not saying in a better way than I said. 816 00:44:05,600 --> 00:44:07,279 Speaker 1: I want them to have a voice and have an artist. 817 00:44:07,280 --> 00:44:11,040 Speaker 1: So I'm hoping, um that when people look back on 818 00:44:11,160 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: my career, they will say not how many bestsellers that 819 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:17,440 Speaker 1: I have in books, but that they'll say, you know what, 820 00:44:17,800 --> 00:44:21,239 Speaker 1: Dr Ian Smith was a pioneer, and he opened the 821 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:23,399 Speaker 1: doors for all these people to be able to come 822 00:44:23,400 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: out and talk to the world, uh and represent us 823 00:44:26,440 --> 00:44:31,640 Speaker 1: as African Americans and a respectful, proud um and professional manner. Okay, cool, 824 00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:33,960 Speaker 1: you know, as they said, you know you said some 825 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,799 Speaker 1: great things, sir, thank you. You know, you know you know, 826 00:44:36,840 --> 00:44:41,640 Speaker 1: but I gotta I gotta as rebuttle on you. Those 827 00:44:41,680 --> 00:44:44,320 Speaker 1: books that you write are important because you're in African American. 828 00:44:44,400 --> 00:44:46,440 Speaker 1: And guess what books are a number one because they 829 00:44:46,440 --> 00:44:49,239 Speaker 1: were bought by black people. So that means that you 830 00:44:49,400 --> 00:44:52,080 Speaker 1: have you have, you have cleared the way as a 831 00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 1: pioneer for people to respect medical advice, die advice, life 832 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,480 Speaker 1: advice from a person that doesn't look like that. That's 833 00:45:00,480 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 1: why you're important. That's why I can't push you aside 834 00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:04,879 Speaker 1: as you say, I'm ready to go play golf, spend 835 00:45:04,920 --> 00:45:07,600 Speaker 1: time kind all that. That's what vacations are far. Okay, 836 00:45:07,880 --> 00:45:11,600 Speaker 1: we're talking about We're talking about legacy creates a path. 837 00:45:11,760 --> 00:45:13,879 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. I'm talking about when I'm 838 00:45:13,880 --> 00:45:16,120 Speaker 1: in trouble, I need my voice. You know, when I 839 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:18,600 Speaker 1: was growing up man before the foul cheese and all 840 00:45:18,640 --> 00:45:21,239 Speaker 1: the world. Dr Welby m D. You know my man, 841 00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:23,600 Speaker 1: all right, And so these are the things that we 842 00:45:23,680 --> 00:45:25,840 Speaker 1: grow up on. I'm just saying is that you have 843 00:45:25,920 --> 00:45:30,160 Speaker 1: become an institution. And I'm just telling you just slow down, doc, okay, 844 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,160 Speaker 1: and realized be appreciated with what I'm saying about. I 845 00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:35,120 Speaker 1: know you are. I know men, you go way back, 846 00:45:35,160 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: but twenty five years is just twenty five years now? Uh? Now, 847 00:45:38,920 --> 00:45:40,480 Speaker 1: if you come on the show with show and come 848 00:45:40,480 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: on the show with the Pope barely gray beard and 849 00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,360 Speaker 1: you're looking, I'm saying it might be our last interview 850 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: with Dr Smith. He looked back. Can you find his 851 00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:51,600 Speaker 1: twin brothers? Does the Twain brother look like that twin brothers? 852 00:45:51,840 --> 00:45:54,520 Speaker 1: We really got problems. But you're not doing that. You're 853 00:45:54,520 --> 00:45:57,040 Speaker 1: stabilizing yourself. And this is why I said you can't 854 00:45:57,040 --> 00:46:00,759 Speaker 1: go away because see now we're battling age, because see 855 00:46:00,760 --> 00:46:03,000 Speaker 1: what happens is people stop dreaming when they hit a 856 00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:05,600 Speaker 1: certain age. They started fifty go oh, I can't do 857 00:46:05,640 --> 00:46:08,800 Speaker 1: that sixth decade. See I know it's seventy eight and eighty. 858 00:46:09,080 --> 00:46:11,400 Speaker 1: You're still gonna be Dr Ian Smith. We might be 859 00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:14,120 Speaker 1: on book thirty by the end, you might be you. 860 00:46:14,120 --> 00:46:16,560 Speaker 1: You're gonna be on another council. You're still telling us 861 00:46:16,560 --> 00:46:18,640 Speaker 1: the direction. And the reason I look at you this way, 862 00:46:18,680 --> 00:46:20,120 Speaker 1: the reason I have to talk to you is this way. 863 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:21,799 Speaker 1: And I know you're gonna have a comment about this, 864 00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:24,920 Speaker 1: and I wanted is that the next battle where you 865 00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:28,000 Speaker 1: at right now is letting people know age should not 866 00:46:28,160 --> 00:46:31,719 Speaker 1: define your dream. Am I correct about that? Let me 867 00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:35,040 Speaker 1: tell you something uh statement I came up with recently 868 00:46:35,080 --> 00:46:36,640 Speaker 1: that I'm starting to like, and I say it more 869 00:46:36,680 --> 00:46:40,360 Speaker 1: and more. Even if you live to be a hundred, 870 00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:45,120 Speaker 1: life is still short. And by that I mean is 871 00:46:45,160 --> 00:46:49,120 Speaker 1: that you are never too old uh to dream, to 872 00:46:49,320 --> 00:46:52,640 Speaker 1: chase dreams, to deform new dreams. Think about it. Life 873 00:46:52,680 --> 00:46:55,440 Speaker 1: is so short you should spend the entirety of your 874 00:46:55,480 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 1: life in the pursuit of fun and happiness and your dreams. 875 00:47:00,920 --> 00:47:03,239 Speaker 1: And it's not just about checking things off of a list, 876 00:47:03,239 --> 00:47:05,279 Speaker 1: by the way, because when I check some awful list, 877 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:08,120 Speaker 1: I add something else because that is what keeps me going. 878 00:47:08,200 --> 00:47:10,400 Speaker 1: You want to you want to keep going. So I 879 00:47:10,480 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 1: agree with you that you know, as we age, we 880 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:16,040 Speaker 1: tend to think, well, you know it's a different season 881 00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,640 Speaker 1: of your life. Well, yeah, life is seasons. But that 882 00:47:18,719 --> 00:47:22,239 Speaker 1: does not mean, Rashan, that you stop the pursuit, that 883 00:47:22,360 --> 00:47:24,839 Speaker 1: you stop the dreaming, that you stopped looking up at 884 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:28,320 Speaker 1: the stars and thinking and wondering those things I think 885 00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:32,080 Speaker 1: are the true texture and magic and beauty of our life. 886 00:47:32,480 --> 00:47:35,560 Speaker 1: Absolutely now the book fast Burn Let's Listen Now week 887 00:47:35,600 --> 00:47:38,560 Speaker 1: program in the program and broken down into the three parts. 888 00:47:38,560 --> 00:47:42,640 Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about ignition into mission and acceleration. Now, 889 00:47:42,640 --> 00:47:45,440 Speaker 1: before we go there, when you say that the power 890 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:49,719 Speaker 1: of negative energy balance, what exactly does that mean? Yeah, 891 00:47:49,760 --> 00:47:52,200 Speaker 1: before I explain that, let me just say two people listening, 892 00:47:52,719 --> 00:47:54,840 Speaker 1: go to my Facebook group. We've got twelve thousand people 893 00:47:54,840 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: doing fast burned together. The Facebook group's name is called 894 00:47:57,480 --> 00:48:00,799 Speaker 1: fast burn Challenge fast burn Challenge, and if you're not 895 00:48:00,840 --> 00:48:03,520 Speaker 1: on Facebook, you can do it through my Instagram which 896 00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: is at dr Ian Smith spell the Doctor out I 897 00:48:07,000 --> 00:48:09,520 Speaker 1: A and Smith. Let me explain to the subtitle the 898 00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:13,319 Speaker 1: power of negative energy balance in life, we want positive energy. 899 00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:15,440 Speaker 1: That's calm ex spiritual energy. This is different. This is 900 00:48:15,480 --> 00:48:18,920 Speaker 1: food energy. So food, when we say calories in the food, 901 00:48:18,960 --> 00:48:22,000 Speaker 1: that's measurement of food. Energy in the food. Food is energy. 902 00:48:22,200 --> 00:48:24,759 Speaker 1: And so when you eat more calories than you burn 903 00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:27,960 Speaker 1: off for sean, you end up having what's called positive 904 00:48:28,040 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: energy balance. You have more calories than you burned off. 905 00:48:31,040 --> 00:48:33,680 Speaker 1: The body has to do something with that energy. Energy 906 00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,120 Speaker 1: just doesn't disappear. That's not how it works. What does 907 00:48:36,160 --> 00:48:38,560 Speaker 1: the body do with that extra energy? It stores it 908 00:48:38,640 --> 00:48:42,920 Speaker 1: as fat. Fat is the storage form of energy. Okay, 909 00:48:43,280 --> 00:48:48,120 Speaker 1: why do bears uh you know, gouge uh sorry, gorge 910 00:48:48,440 --> 00:48:53,319 Speaker 1: on food before winter comes, before hibernation. They do that 911 00:48:53,600 --> 00:48:56,360 Speaker 1: because they're eating, eating, eating, eating, and they're getting fatter 912 00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:59,000 Speaker 1: and fatter and fatter the blubber because they're gonna eat 913 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:02,840 Speaker 1: that blubber during the winter when their food source is 914 00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:05,839 Speaker 1: very scarce. Well, same thing with our body. Our body 915 00:49:05,880 --> 00:49:08,200 Speaker 1: will take the extra energy and put it as fat. 916 00:49:08,239 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: Now that's positive energy balance. What you want to be, however, 917 00:49:12,800 --> 00:49:16,000 Speaker 1: is the negative energy value then bounced just the opposite, 918 00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,879 Speaker 1: so and fast burn. You're still gonna have all your 919 00:49:18,920 --> 00:49:22,400 Speaker 1: meals and all your snacks, However, the amount of energy 920 00:49:22,440 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 1: you get from them will not be enough to meet 921 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:29,320 Speaker 1: the demands of your body's energy needs. So your body 922 00:49:29,360 --> 00:49:31,799 Speaker 1: has to find the energy from somewhere. It says, where 923 00:49:31,800 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: do I go to get energy? Oh? There I go. 924 00:49:34,440 --> 00:49:37,160 Speaker 1: It goes into the fat stores. It takes the fat, 925 00:49:37,719 --> 00:49:40,600 Speaker 1: it melts it or breaks it down, it converts it 926 00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,399 Speaker 1: into fuel that your body can use. So when you're 927 00:49:44,400 --> 00:49:48,080 Speaker 1: in a negative energy balance state, that is when you 928 00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:51,040 Speaker 1: drive into those fat stores and break that fat down. 929 00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: And that's why I'm fast burned. Not only are people 930 00:49:53,719 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: losing fifteen and seventeen pounds on average and nine weeks. 931 00:49:56,360 --> 00:49:59,799 Speaker 1: But they're noticing six seven eight inches gone around their 932 00:49:59,800 --> 00:50:02,719 Speaker 1: mid section because the book is putting them into this 933 00:50:02,960 --> 00:50:06,880 Speaker 1: negative energy balanced state. Now that's that's great. Now, But 934 00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:09,080 Speaker 1: you broke the book down into three parts, and we 935 00:50:09,120 --> 00:50:11,520 Speaker 1: know it's nine weeks, it's four one week that is 936 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,239 Speaker 1: the middle week is one and it's for the closest eye. 937 00:50:14,239 --> 00:50:18,400 Speaker 1: It's called ignition, intermission, and acceleration. Why are these keywords 938 00:50:18,440 --> 00:50:21,839 Speaker 1: in the whole process of the nine week diet program. Well, 939 00:50:21,880 --> 00:50:25,000 Speaker 1: because the idea is imagining the analogy of a car. 940 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:28,040 Speaker 1: So the first four weeks are the ignition. You're just starting, 941 00:50:28,239 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 1: you're just getting going, and so people slowly make changes. 942 00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:33,440 Speaker 1: Remember this is not about being a diet this is 943 00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,000 Speaker 1: about teaching you lifestyle changes. So people for the first 944 00:50:36,000 --> 00:50:39,120 Speaker 1: four weeks are just learning how to eat differently, how 945 00:50:39,160 --> 00:50:41,640 Speaker 1: to move differently. So it slowly takes you in there 946 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,799 Speaker 1: so that it sticks. When you do things too fast 947 00:50:43,800 --> 00:50:46,120 Speaker 1: and too dramatic, people tend not to hold onto it. 948 00:50:46,320 --> 00:50:48,120 Speaker 1: But I slowly do it for the first four weeks, 949 00:50:48,120 --> 00:50:50,800 Speaker 1: and by the way, people lose about of their total 950 00:50:50,800 --> 00:50:52,640 Speaker 1: weight loss for the nine weeks in those first four 951 00:50:52,680 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: weeks right then the middle is intermission. It is what 952 00:50:55,719 --> 00:50:58,640 Speaker 1: it says. It's a break. You take a week, you 953 00:50:58,719 --> 00:51:02,000 Speaker 1: relax a little bit, reassess where things are, trying to 954 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 1: put into practice some things you've learned over the first 955 00:51:04,200 --> 00:51:06,960 Speaker 1: four weeks, and you're good to go. Now. The last 956 00:51:06,960 --> 00:51:11,239 Speaker 1: four weeks is acceleration, pedal to the metal. That's what 957 00:51:11,320 --> 00:51:15,080 Speaker 1: we're really driving into our fat stores, really melting that fat, 958 00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:19,120 Speaker 1: really losing the weight, really getting into that that nice 959 00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:22,200 Speaker 1: sculpted look, that change in appearance, and the change and 960 00:51:22,239 --> 00:51:25,920 Speaker 1: how we feel situation, and so that's what the acceleration is. 961 00:51:26,120 --> 00:51:28,560 Speaker 1: Those are the nine weeks. If you hit your target, 962 00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,359 Speaker 1: you put the book up, and now you learn how 963 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,320 Speaker 1: to make the right decisions. If you haven't hit your target, 964 00:51:34,680 --> 00:51:37,479 Speaker 1: you do another cycle until you need to get until 965 00:51:37,480 --> 00:51:39,319 Speaker 1: you've gotten all the way off that you wanted. But 966 00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,880 Speaker 1: that is how the built the book is built. Well, 967 00:51:42,040 --> 00:51:45,680 Speaker 1: this is your twenty book. I just gotta ask this question, 968 00:51:45,800 --> 00:51:48,560 Speaker 1: what have you learned in each book? Because each point 969 00:51:48,560 --> 00:51:51,720 Speaker 1: has a different take, a different chemical makeup, of different 970 00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,080 Speaker 1: reason why you're attacking. They're never the same book. I 971 00:51:54,400 --> 00:51:57,360 Speaker 1: can attest to that they all have a different scope 972 00:51:57,400 --> 00:52:00,480 Speaker 1: of knowledge that you're providing us about our bodies. What 973 00:52:00,600 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 1: have you learned from from book to book? This book? 974 00:52:04,200 --> 00:52:08,719 Speaker 1: I learned that number one, that people are able to 975 00:52:08,719 --> 00:52:12,640 Speaker 1: do different types of intermittent fasting. That even though the 976 00:52:12,760 --> 00:52:17,160 Speaker 1: science may say that time restricted feeding is the best 977 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:20,920 Speaker 1: type of intimat and fasting for results, that that doesn't 978 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:23,799 Speaker 1: work for everyone. Everyone can't necessarily follow that plan. That's 979 00:52:23,800 --> 00:52:25,960 Speaker 1: why I use the five two method in the book also, 980 00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,040 Speaker 1: so I learned that people need to choose an intimitt 981 00:52:29,080 --> 00:52:31,319 Speaker 1: and fasting strategy that works for best with them. The 982 00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 1: other thing I learned is that you actually can keep 983 00:52:34,920 --> 00:52:37,480 Speaker 1: into a program some of them. I wouldn't call them 984 00:52:37,560 --> 00:52:40,680 Speaker 1: cheap foods, but some of the fun foods that people enjoy. 985 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:43,560 Speaker 1: You can still keep them in a program, but keep 986 00:52:43,560 --> 00:52:46,759 Speaker 1: them in a way that people do not feel deprived, 987 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:49,799 Speaker 1: but they also are not over indulging, and you can 988 00:52:49,800 --> 00:52:52,000 Speaker 1: still help them lose weight with the whole process of 989 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,640 Speaker 1: this just a little little little publicity here, I know 990 00:52:55,680 --> 00:52:59,080 Speaker 1: you said the word listening. Now I'm now only television. 991 00:52:59,080 --> 00:53:01,720 Speaker 1: I have my own network. Then I'm own in the Atlanta, Georgia, 992 00:53:01,800 --> 00:53:04,800 Speaker 1: So hopefully I get more sales for years on the 993 00:53:04,840 --> 00:53:07,840 Speaker 1: A I B t V two million homes in northern Georgia. 994 00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,520 Speaker 1: And so I just love the fact that I'm talking 995 00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,239 Speaker 1: to a friend, and I tease you when you talk 996 00:53:13,280 --> 00:53:15,879 Speaker 1: about that old talk, I get tired. You know, man, 997 00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,399 Speaker 1: We're gonna be interviewing each other and helping each other, 998 00:53:18,440 --> 00:53:21,040 Speaker 1: supporting each other, because when I talk to you, man, 999 00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,279 Speaker 1: and and we both have seen our journeys, and and 1000 00:53:24,480 --> 00:53:26,600 Speaker 1: I just smile when I see your journey every time 1001 00:53:26,640 --> 00:53:29,360 Speaker 1: because it's tied to hard work. And I just like 1002 00:53:29,440 --> 00:53:31,319 Speaker 1: for you to close and to let everybody know that 1003 00:53:31,640 --> 00:53:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, we all have dreams and all this seems 1004 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:35,920 Speaker 1: like you were saying there are other dr Ian Smith's 1005 00:53:35,920 --> 00:53:38,800 Speaker 1: out there, but guess what, There's only one dr Ian Smith. 1006 00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:41,120 Speaker 1: And that's what allows me to say that you are 1007 00:53:41,160 --> 00:53:43,680 Speaker 1: a blessing and you have to continue to win. With 1008 00:53:43,800 --> 00:53:47,200 Speaker 1: that being said, what are your closing thoughts? My closing 1009 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,840 Speaker 1: thoughts are very simple, that life is very fragile and 1010 00:53:51,040 --> 00:53:54,360 Speaker 1: very precious, and when you value life, your own life, 1011 00:53:54,800 --> 00:53:57,520 Speaker 1: that means you automatically value the life of others. That 1012 00:53:57,640 --> 00:54:00,400 Speaker 1: we have to live and and comport our selves in 1013 00:54:00,400 --> 00:54:03,239 Speaker 1: a way where we're respectful to our other lives and 1014 00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,160 Speaker 1: to the environment, but also that we are always chasing. 1015 00:54:06,480 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 1: We're chasing to be better, we're chasing to be happy, 1016 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,359 Speaker 1: we're chasing to fulfill our dreams. When you have that 1017 00:54:12,440 --> 00:54:15,439 Speaker 1: type of drive in your life, every day, you get 1018 00:54:15,520 --> 00:54:17,759 Speaker 1: up like I did, and you say to yourself, I'm 1019 00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:21,200 Speaker 1: gonna squeeze the most out of this day because tomorrow 1020 00:54:21,680 --> 00:54:23,799 Speaker 1: is not promised to any of us. So I thank 1021 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:25,640 Speaker 1: you for being your friend. I thank you for always 1022 00:54:25,680 --> 00:54:28,359 Speaker 1: having me on your show, and I encourage others out 1023 00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:30,839 Speaker 1: there who I may never meet that you can do 1024 00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,520 Speaker 1: it too. Absolutely. Thank you Dran Smith for coming in 1025 00:54:33,600 --> 00:54:35,840 Speaker 1: my book on my show fast Burn, The Power of 1026 00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:39,120 Speaker 1: negative energy to balance right now. Get it right now, 1027 00:54:39,520 --> 00:54:41,640 Speaker 1: not just because I'm saying it, because it's gonna change 1028 00:54:41,640 --> 00:54:44,560 Speaker 1: your life. And I'll tell you five pounds. When you 1029 00:54:44,600 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 1: said the word sculpture, I thought about myself because I 1030 00:54:47,120 --> 00:54:49,520 Speaker 1: saw something a little real cage like I kind of 1031 00:54:49,560 --> 00:54:51,880 Speaker 1: saw it again. Dog, I saw it again in my 1032 00:54:51,960 --> 00:54:54,640 Speaker 1: old age. Okay, so life is good man. You'd be 1033 00:54:54,680 --> 00:54:58,319 Speaker 1: safe out there. Okay, you too, love man, I appreciate hi. 1034 00:54:58,400 --> 00:55:01,719 Speaker 1: Everyone here is a guy with his own catchphrase. I 1035 00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,240 Speaker 1: appreciate that Smokey's only said only you can prevent wildfires, 1036 00:55:06,239 --> 00:55:09,040 Speaker 1: But I'm filling in because there's a lot more to report, 1037 00:55:09,440 --> 00:55:12,399 Speaker 1: like when they're parched or windy conditions out there. You've 1038 00:55:12,440 --> 00:55:15,480 Speaker 1: gotta be extra careful with things like burning yard waist. 1039 00:55:16,040 --> 00:55:19,600 Speaker 1: After all, wildfires can start anywhere, even in your neck 1040 00:55:19,640 --> 00:55:22,120 Speaker 1: of the woods. Go to Smokey Bear dot com to 1041 00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,279 Speaker 1: learn more about wildfire prevention, brought to you by the U. S. 1042 00:55:25,320 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 1: Forest Service, your state Forrester, and the ad Council. Adoption 1043 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:31,719 Speaker 1: of teams from foster care is a topic not enough 1044 00:55:31,760 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: people know about, and we're here to change that. I'm 1045 00:55:34,200 --> 00:55:37,880 Speaker 1: April Denuity, host of the new podcast Navigating Adoption, presented 1046 00:55:37,920 --> 00:55:41,439 Speaker 1: by adopt us Kids. Each episode brings you compelling, real 1047 00:55:41,560 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 1: life adoption stories told by the families that lived them, 1048 00:55:44,280 --> 00:55:48,120 Speaker 1: with commentary from experts. Visit adopt us Kids dot org, 1049 00:55:48,200 --> 00:55:51,960 Speaker 1: slash podcast, or subscribe to Navigating Adoption presented by adopt 1050 00:55:52,000 --> 00:55:54,240 Speaker 1: Us Kids, brought to you by the U. S. Department 1051 00:55:54,239 --> 00:55:57,040 Speaker 1: of Health and Human Services, Administration for Children and Families, 1052 00:55:57,080 --> 00:56:00,640 Speaker 1: and the ad Council. And we're live here or outside 1053 00:56:00,680 --> 00:56:03,919 Speaker 1: the Perez family Home, just waiting for the and there 1054 00:56:03,960 --> 00:56:07,000 Speaker 1: they go almost on time. This morning, Mom is coming 1055 00:56:07,000 --> 00:56:09,800 Speaker 1: out the front door, strong with a double arm kid carry. 1056 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 1: Looks like Dad has the bags. Daughter is bringing up 1057 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: the rear. Oh but the diaper bag wasn't closed. Diapers 1058 00:56:17,000 --> 00:56:21,800 Speaker 1: and toys are everywhere. Oh but mom has just nailed 1059 00:56:21,840 --> 00:56:25,080 Speaker 1: the perfect car seat buckle for the toddler. And now 1060 00:56:25,200 --> 00:56:27,640 Speaker 1: the eldest daughter, who looks to be about nine or ten, 1061 00:56:27,880 --> 00:56:30,520 Speaker 1: has secured herself in the booster seat. Dad SIPs the 1062 00:56:30,560 --> 00:56:34,399 Speaker 1: bag clothes and they're off. Ah, but looks like Mom 1063 00:56:34,440 --> 00:56:36,759 Speaker 1: doesn't realize her coffee cup is still on the roof 1064 00:56:36,800 --> 00:56:41,040 Speaker 1: of the car and there it goes. Ah. That's a 1065 00:56:41,080 --> 00:56:43,960 Speaker 1: shame that mug was a fan favorite. Don't sweat the 1066 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:46,560 Speaker 1: small stuff. Just nailed the big stuff, like making sure 1067 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:48,320 Speaker 1: your kids are buckled correctly in the right seat for 1068 00:56:48,360 --> 00:56:50,480 Speaker 1: their agent's eyes. Learn more n h t s A 1069 00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,719 Speaker 1: dot gov slash the Right Seat visits n h s 1070 00:56:53,719 --> 00:56:57,000 Speaker 1: A dot Gov Slash The Right Seat brought to you 1071 00:56:57,040 --> 00:56:59,600 Speaker 1: by Mitza and the Ad Council. My next cass is 1072 00:56:59,640 --> 00:57:02,160 Speaker 1: all about out that watching living the dream, watching him grow, 1073 00:57:02,520 --> 00:57:04,960 Speaker 1: and I was so excited when they first booked him 1074 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:07,560 Speaker 1: on the show. On this new show, flat Bush Misdemeanor. 1075 00:57:07,640 --> 00:57:09,960 Speaker 1: This Aaron on Showtime. I said, no, no, no, no no, 1076 00:57:10,360 --> 00:57:13,160 Speaker 1: I got to see the episode before I interview him, 1077 00:57:13,360 --> 00:57:15,680 Speaker 1: Lord and Mercy. I'm glad. I wait, I'm glad I 1078 00:57:15,760 --> 00:57:18,800 Speaker 1: pushed forward before he is breaking out funny. But see, 1079 00:57:18,800 --> 00:57:21,080 Speaker 1: here's the cool thing, because I gotta give his credit, 1080 00:57:21,200 --> 00:57:22,720 Speaker 1: because I just want to give him from love before 1081 00:57:22,720 --> 00:57:25,920 Speaker 1: we get started. Because his name is Hassan Johnson. Hassan 1082 00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:29,200 Speaker 1: has been seen in many rows from the Wire Brooklyn Finals. 1083 00:57:29,240 --> 00:57:31,960 Speaker 1: Now hear what I'm saying that that has nothing to 1084 00:57:32,000 --> 00:57:34,360 Speaker 1: do with funny them two roles. That has nothing to 1085 00:57:34,400 --> 00:57:37,240 Speaker 1: do with being a comedian. He recently wrapped a recurrent 1086 00:57:37,320 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: role and they hit ABC Drama for Life. No comedy there, Okay, 1087 00:57:41,880 --> 00:57:43,560 Speaker 1: just setting you up for where we're going with this 1088 00:57:43,640 --> 00:57:46,040 Speaker 1: journey with her soup. But he's recently seen in the 1089 00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:49,400 Speaker 1: comedic Chops okay, Tracy Morgan in the Last o G. 1090 00:57:50,080 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 1: You might have saw him in Top Five, Okay. Now 1091 00:57:52,880 --> 00:57:55,800 Speaker 1: he's in this new show, flat Bush Misdemeanor, which premiers 1092 00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:59,200 Speaker 1: May twenty three at ten thirty pm on Eastern Standard 1093 00:57:59,240 --> 00:58:04,080 Speaker 1: Time and on Showtime. You know his characters drew a bold, 1094 00:58:04,200 --> 00:58:07,000 Speaker 1: direct man who's extremely protective of his loved one, in 1095 00:58:07,080 --> 00:58:10,440 Speaker 1: particularly his niece. His The man is coming comflict with 1096 00:58:10,480 --> 00:58:13,919 Speaker 1: his livelihood of both Kevin and my man. Damn them 1097 00:58:13,960 --> 00:58:16,440 Speaker 1: two brothers. They lead character, they wrote it, they directed, 1098 00:58:16,440 --> 00:58:19,880 Speaker 1: they executive produced the whole series. Are fantastic. Please work 1099 00:58:19,920 --> 00:58:22,200 Speaker 1: with the money, make conversation for the first time, the 1100 00:58:22,480 --> 00:58:25,000 Speaker 1: very funny I'm gonna say, y'all, the very funny and 1101 00:58:25,040 --> 00:58:30,160 Speaker 1: talented Hassan Johnson, how you knowing man? They want to introduction. 1102 00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,000 Speaker 1: Thank you, ras Sean. I'm glad they definitely showed you 1103 00:58:33,040 --> 00:58:39,479 Speaker 1: the episode first man. You know, the bonus says, because 1104 00:58:39,520 --> 00:58:40,840 Speaker 1: you know I wanted the book, you too, that's a 1105 00:58:41,200 --> 00:58:42,920 Speaker 1: pot And I went, hold on, he got a new 1106 00:58:42,960 --> 00:58:45,840 Speaker 1: show because you know, because I hate coming on there 1107 00:58:45,840 --> 00:58:48,600 Speaker 1: talking about something I don't know nothing about, and you 1108 00:58:48,680 --> 00:58:50,560 Speaker 1: know it would be just a lot of air hot 1109 00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:53,520 Speaker 1: air getting blown around. I understand. Yeah, And also I 1110 00:58:53,560 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 1: respected with you'all do the don't want me coming on 1111 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:58,480 Speaker 1: the show, just revealing the pallet and don't matter nobody watches. 1112 00:58:58,480 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: We want mena tell you all this. We're gonna talk 1113 00:59:00,760 --> 00:59:04,680 Speaker 1: in like you know in evergreen term generic terms about 1114 00:59:04,720 --> 00:59:09,240 Speaker 1: the pilot, but the pilot his historical and this boy 1115 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,840 Speaker 1: right here, this ball right here I'm talking to right here, 1116 00:59:12,720 --> 00:59:15,440 Speaker 1: is uh he played. He stayed in the little genre 1117 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:19,480 Speaker 1: little thug look thugging, you know, but boy, he funny 1118 00:59:19,520 --> 00:59:21,800 Speaker 1: man talk about man. Let's talk about the series, and 1119 00:59:21,800 --> 00:59:24,320 Speaker 1: then we're gonna go back to when I first encountered 1120 00:59:24,360 --> 00:59:27,200 Speaker 1: you on the wire. And it's been a journeyman long 1121 00:59:27,280 --> 00:59:30,520 Speaker 1: journey of excellent opportunities. But you can get, like it says, 1122 00:59:30,520 --> 00:59:34,280 Speaker 1: stereotyped into certain roles and we won't talk about you 1123 00:59:34,400 --> 00:59:37,040 Speaker 1: coming out of that and and just being uh, just 1124 00:59:37,080 --> 00:59:39,840 Speaker 1: super funny. I'm hoping this is the character that you're doing. 1125 00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:42,200 Speaker 1: It becomes a hit serious, so you can really really 1126 00:59:42,200 --> 00:59:45,360 Speaker 1: show people your range. Talk about flash bush misdemeanor and 1127 00:59:45,400 --> 00:59:49,400 Speaker 1: your character Drew, well, she drew Uncle Drew. As you'll 1128 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:52,360 Speaker 1: get to know, he is the uncle to the little 1129 00:59:52,400 --> 00:59:54,760 Speaker 1: girls ain't and not so little girls ain't on this 1130 00:59:54,800 --> 00:59:58,640 Speaker 1: show because she had a mean punch boy. So anyway, 1131 00:59:58,920 --> 01:00:02,520 Speaker 1: uncle Drew bring I like to say this balance to 1132 01:00:02,680 --> 01:00:06,479 Speaker 1: an array of this like dysfunctional characters, right because then 1133 01:00:06,920 --> 01:00:10,479 Speaker 1: while he's so overprotective of Zana, he's this tough guy 1134 01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:14,160 Speaker 1: that's put the center. Tough god, mean god. He here 1135 01:00:14,240 --> 01:00:17,960 Speaker 1: is a fairness in him that that we're gonna explore that, 1136 01:00:18,120 --> 01:00:21,120 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. And he encounters Kevin again 1137 01:00:21,600 --> 01:00:24,600 Speaker 1: and they start to appreciate the fairness that is who 1138 01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:27,960 Speaker 1: who Drew is. But he brings this this balance to 1139 01:00:28,040 --> 01:00:32,040 Speaker 1: this dysfunction, and then vary Lie his own dysfunction because 1140 01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:35,760 Speaker 1: he's so over protective of Zana and he's about his education. 1141 01:00:35,840 --> 01:00:38,800 Speaker 1: And you'll get to discover why. Well, you know, the 1142 01:00:38,800 --> 01:00:41,800 Speaker 1: beauty of the characters is written by Kevin and Dan. 1143 01:00:43,480 --> 01:00:45,920 Speaker 1: You know it really Uh, it's it's a it's it's 1144 01:00:45,960 --> 01:00:49,600 Speaker 1: shot a certain way. The comedy is real. You know 1145 01:00:50,120 --> 01:00:52,840 Speaker 1: if they say street like what they say the N word, 1146 01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:55,040 Speaker 1: you know they right, they go there with the with 1147 01:00:55,120 --> 01:00:58,600 Speaker 1: the with the regular vernacular, you know, sagging pains. Oh, 1148 01:00:58,640 --> 01:01:02,400 Speaker 1: it's the look of the street. And it's enjoyable because 1149 01:01:02,400 --> 01:01:05,440 Speaker 1: of the fact that I was not offended by anything 1150 01:01:05,560 --> 01:01:07,320 Speaker 1: I saw. I felt it was some of the things 1151 01:01:07,320 --> 01:01:10,120 Speaker 1: were very relatable. But then the characters. You love the 1152 01:01:10,200 --> 01:01:13,160 Speaker 1: characters and you're engaged by the realness of it. Now 1153 01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,200 Speaker 1: your characters real. Now let's talk about you know that 1154 01:01:16,360 --> 01:01:20,080 Speaker 1: the character Drew uncle Drew. Now, I it was as 1155 01:01:20,120 --> 01:01:22,680 Speaker 1: a scene and it kind of reminded me and training day. 1156 01:01:22,840 --> 01:01:25,560 Speaker 1: You know, it's a training date moment. Remember when he 1157 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:27,840 Speaker 1: was about to do homeboard bad in the in the 1158 01:01:27,920 --> 01:01:30,400 Speaker 1: in the bathtub and then it came around and found 1159 01:01:30,440 --> 01:01:34,480 Speaker 1: out he saved my niece. That was a train You're 1160 01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: a good one, Rashaun. So I'm really glad watching because 1161 01:01:38,160 --> 01:01:40,200 Speaker 1: in the moment in time and on the day up, 1162 01:01:40,800 --> 01:01:44,560 Speaker 1: I'm not even understanding or putting the correlation with that 1163 01:01:44,600 --> 01:01:47,960 Speaker 1: scene with that that's exactly what that was. That was 1164 01:01:48,000 --> 01:01:50,440 Speaker 1: training down. But I guess what, I wasn't mad at 1165 01:01:50,520 --> 01:01:52,760 Speaker 1: it because I was like, we're doing a comedy here, 1166 01:01:53,200 --> 01:01:55,800 Speaker 1: and I was affacing. It wasn't such an a parody 1167 01:01:55,840 --> 01:01:58,120 Speaker 1: where you like you just understood, like you know what, 1168 01:01:58,400 --> 01:02:03,440 Speaker 1: that's the same you saw the parallel order because because 1169 01:02:03,480 --> 01:02:05,760 Speaker 1: believe me, it wasn't funny. It wasn't even close to 1170 01:02:05,800 --> 01:02:09,680 Speaker 1: being funny. And training day, but yeah, here it was funny. 1171 01:02:09,840 --> 01:02:12,240 Speaker 1: I was I was followed out my chair. I was going, 1172 01:02:12,440 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 1: this boy food, this is ignorant. Then you then your 1173 01:02:15,960 --> 01:02:18,360 Speaker 1: other boy. All he do is play video game in 1174 01:02:18,440 --> 01:02:24,440 Speaker 1: the right and then the other boy. He just opened 1175 01:02:24,440 --> 01:02:29,680 Speaker 1: the door, laid anybody in, you know sebody. So so 1176 01:02:29,760 --> 01:02:32,800 Speaker 1: you you got your niece in there, she popping boomerang 1177 01:02:32,960 --> 01:02:36,400 Speaker 1: photos on and you get to the theater. Body man, 1178 01:02:36,560 --> 01:02:39,920 Speaker 1: is that this is just that setting because Kevin is 1179 01:02:39,960 --> 01:02:43,160 Speaker 1: a delivery man, Dane is a school teacher, if you 1180 01:02:43,160 --> 01:02:45,520 Speaker 1: want to call it. Because Kevin ain't really a good 1181 01:02:45,560 --> 01:02:48,480 Speaker 1: delivery man and Dad is not really a good school teacher. 1182 01:02:48,640 --> 01:02:53,720 Speaker 1: He ain't neither one of them, right and so and 1183 01:02:53,800 --> 01:02:56,360 Speaker 1: so that's what we have been laughing about. This series 1184 01:02:56,360 --> 01:02:59,160 Speaker 1: of premiers on Showtime. It's called Flatbush. Mr Meet Him 1185 01:02:59,400 --> 01:03:02,200 Speaker 1: starts Man. I would say stars by Man her Son 1186 01:03:02,360 --> 01:03:05,880 Speaker 1: Johnson because he's a pivovogual character, because he's a community character. 1187 01:03:06,200 --> 01:03:08,560 Speaker 1: He's in the neighborhood. He's that guy that you know 1188 01:03:08,680 --> 01:03:10,280 Speaker 1: if he walks by you, by you you know, you 1189 01:03:10,400 --> 01:03:12,920 Speaker 1: probably clutch your bag if you if you goes by 1190 01:03:12,960 --> 01:03:15,760 Speaker 1: your car, don You're probably push press lock on your door. 1191 01:03:16,280 --> 01:03:18,320 Speaker 1: You know you're going this door. You might see him 1192 01:03:18,560 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 1: and went back back out the door, you know. But 1193 01:03:22,800 --> 01:03:25,840 Speaker 1: all those things because you got that look man. But 1194 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:29,600 Speaker 1: in the end, you have a heart when you get 1195 01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:31,760 Speaker 1: the main thing. He has a heart. Like I said, 1196 01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:34,360 Speaker 1: there's a level of fanness that comes with Nut Drew. 1197 01:03:34,440 --> 01:03:36,960 Speaker 1: You what you see is what you get. He you know, 1198 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,320 Speaker 1: he wears hard on his sleeve. You're not gonna get 1199 01:03:39,320 --> 01:03:41,360 Speaker 1: no b as. You ain't gonna sugar coat and water 1200 01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,120 Speaker 1: nothing down for you. And that's what you could appreciate. 1201 01:03:44,400 --> 01:03:47,600 Speaker 1: And that's what you see. The characters Dan and Kevin, 1202 01:03:48,160 --> 01:03:51,040 Speaker 1: they start to appreciate that. I think about Drew more 1203 01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:54,360 Speaker 1: than anything because everything and everywhere else and so if 1204 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:58,040 Speaker 1: he had wish washy and they're surroundings, they're so uncertain 1205 01:03:58,080 --> 01:04:01,880 Speaker 1: he did these uncertain characters that they could appreciate that 1206 01:04:02,000 --> 01:04:05,160 Speaker 1: Drew is soul, you know, just add of me. Well, 1207 01:04:05,200 --> 01:04:07,040 Speaker 1: I think I think let's let's just be real about 1208 01:04:07,040 --> 01:04:09,880 Speaker 1: that character, because good writing has a way of telling 1209 01:04:09,960 --> 01:04:13,600 Speaker 1: a person's role, and your role is about rules. You know. 1210 01:04:13,640 --> 01:04:16,040 Speaker 1: It's like we all have rules. You know, Like I said, somebody, 1211 01:04:16,120 --> 01:04:18,160 Speaker 1: the speeding of it might be thirty five miles now 1212 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:19,960 Speaker 1: you drive forward it, but it's thirty five miles now, 1213 01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:22,040 Speaker 1: and that's you. You know what I'm saying. If you 1214 01:04:22,080 --> 01:04:24,560 Speaker 1: make a mistake, you hold people accountable for that. Mistake 1215 01:04:25,160 --> 01:04:29,000 Speaker 1: based on Drew Uncle Drew's rules. You know what I'm saying. 1216 01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,560 Speaker 1: If you respect the rules, you're gonna walk out of 1217 01:04:31,560 --> 01:04:34,600 Speaker 1: the house a lot. Respect the rule. You might walk 1218 01:04:34,640 --> 01:04:37,160 Speaker 1: out of the house. He kind of alive, but you're 1219 01:04:37,160 --> 01:04:40,600 Speaker 1: gonna remember you broke that rule, right exactly. There you go. 1220 01:04:40,880 --> 01:04:44,800 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a learning lesson and that's what I 1221 01:04:44,840 --> 01:04:47,440 Speaker 1: love about it. So but then again, we talked a 1222 01:04:47,480 --> 01:04:49,480 Speaker 1: little bit off air before we got on there because 1223 01:04:49,960 --> 01:04:52,560 Speaker 1: you can stereotype, you know, people, people see your photo. 1224 01:04:52,680 --> 01:04:54,640 Speaker 1: He's gonna play a thug. Oh, he's gonna play a criminal, 1225 01:04:54,680 --> 01:04:56,200 Speaker 1: or he can play this. And you know, and I 1226 01:04:56,240 --> 01:04:58,560 Speaker 1: first fell in love with your acting man way back 1227 01:04:58,600 --> 01:05:00,760 Speaker 1: on the Wire, which was to the novel. When you 1228 01:05:00,800 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: look at all the people, man, they were casting that serious. 1229 01:05:04,560 --> 01:05:08,600 Speaker 1: Oh y'all working, Oh y'all doing big things. Man, through 1230 01:05:08,640 --> 01:05:10,760 Speaker 1: the grace of God. That's right, though, you know what 1231 01:05:10,760 --> 01:05:13,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying. So so you said, why with that serious, 1232 01:05:13,680 --> 01:05:18,880 Speaker 1: so brilliant the cast? You now you get to understand 1233 01:05:18,880 --> 01:05:21,040 Speaker 1: why that, see, because that's the favorite. When we were 1234 01:05:21,040 --> 01:05:25,560 Speaker 1: shooting the Wire, we don't know we're making history, not 1235 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:28,360 Speaker 1: not not not you. I swear to God, any one 1236 01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:30,760 Speaker 1: of us telling you that we knew that show was 1237 01:05:30,800 --> 01:05:34,080 Speaker 1: gonna be a head, we'd be talking about it double 1238 01:05:34,160 --> 01:05:37,400 Speaker 1: the time later than it was on. Right, you couldn't 1239 01:05:37,400 --> 01:05:39,840 Speaker 1: have pay no no one. I'd say they delned if 1240 01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:42,800 Speaker 1: they said that they knew that We didn't know, you 1241 01:05:42,800 --> 01:05:45,440 Speaker 1: know what I mean that it was the writing that cast. 1242 01:05:45,600 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 1: Now you start to understand as everyone's careers, Blosslman came 1243 01:05:49,400 --> 01:05:52,440 Speaker 1: into fruition that no wonder that that was such a 1244 01:05:52,480 --> 01:05:55,320 Speaker 1: great show. Absolutely, there's your character with way we Bay. 1245 01:05:56,920 --> 01:05:59,600 Speaker 1: That's right, he's steal. In my mind, he's two characters 1246 01:05:59,600 --> 01:06:04,240 Speaker 1: state of my you know, stringer bowl and Bay. Alright, alright, 1247 01:06:04,360 --> 01:06:08,480 Speaker 1: string strings. But when he got killed, I was hurt. 1248 01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:11,040 Speaker 1: I said, oh my god, he know he went out 1249 01:06:11,080 --> 01:06:13,840 Speaker 1: like oh so. But when you look at that, that 1250 01:06:13,840 --> 01:06:17,600 Speaker 1: that was that was really your first really m consistent 1251 01:06:17,640 --> 01:06:20,800 Speaker 1: acting role, you know, like sure, yes, that was my 1252 01:06:20,840 --> 01:06:24,000 Speaker 1: first recurring role on the television show for sure. Everything 1253 01:06:24,040 --> 01:06:26,720 Speaker 1: else before that was either a one off in the film, 1254 01:06:26,840 --> 01:06:31,160 Speaker 1: you know, like a co star role or a co 1255 01:06:31,360 --> 01:06:34,840 Speaker 1: star you absidy, Right, So let's let's talk about that. 1256 01:06:34,880 --> 01:06:37,120 Speaker 1: When you when you get that opportunity to you finally 1257 01:06:37,120 --> 01:06:39,400 Speaker 1: because you work hard for these opportunities and then you 1258 01:06:39,680 --> 01:06:42,120 Speaker 1: trying to get that regular check and you know, like 1259 01:06:42,240 --> 01:06:44,600 Speaker 1: and and so you're on all these challenges people because 1260 01:06:44,640 --> 01:06:46,880 Speaker 1: all you guys were young stars at the time, young 1261 01:06:47,160 --> 01:06:49,160 Speaker 1: young up and comers. I'm gonna say that word up 1262 01:06:49,160 --> 01:06:53,880 Speaker 1: in conners because we can turn any streaming network, any movie, 1263 01:06:54,440 --> 01:06:57,320 Speaker 1: any network television show, and one of you guys are 1264 01:06:57,360 --> 01:07:00,800 Speaker 1: on it, what I'm saying, and some of them two 1265 01:07:00,880 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 1: or three y'all in the same series. Yeah, let's not 1266 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:06,640 Speaker 1: play with you. I mean, I don't just popped up 1267 01:07:06,640 --> 01:07:09,200 Speaker 1: in a few shows or you know, movies with my 1268 01:07:09,520 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 1: fellow cast meet from the show. Yeah, we don't go 1269 01:07:12,440 --> 01:07:16,920 Speaker 1: on skate now. So so with that being said, what 1270 01:07:16,840 --> 01:07:18,760 Speaker 1: were your thoughts man when you when you when you 1271 01:07:18,960 --> 01:07:21,280 Speaker 1: were brought on the Wire? Was it just a paycheck 1272 01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:24,640 Speaker 1: or was it just hey man, finally and finally seeing 1273 01:07:24,640 --> 01:07:27,440 Speaker 1: my craft being appreciated, my skills being appreciated, talk to 1274 01:07:27,560 --> 01:07:30,240 Speaker 1: us about that. I think it was a mixture of both, 1275 01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:34,440 Speaker 1: but overall and ultimately it was my my my craft 1276 01:07:34,440 --> 01:07:37,640 Speaker 1: being appreciated because I remember audition and right auditioning for 1277 01:07:37,680 --> 01:07:41,240 Speaker 1: the Wire was pre notin eleven. Then we shot postion 1278 01:07:41,360 --> 01:07:44,120 Speaker 1: on the Levin. So you gotta understand that a lot 1279 01:07:44,240 --> 01:07:46,840 Speaker 1: goes on in between the time that it was first 1280 01:07:46,960 --> 01:07:50,120 Speaker 1: very introduced to me and then it came into reality, 1281 01:07:50,280 --> 01:07:54,320 Speaker 1: right because the world stopped. The world stopped in between 1282 01:07:54,360 --> 01:07:58,120 Speaker 1: that time and then resumed again, and I had to 1283 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,200 Speaker 1: come back with that energy. And I got the call back. 1284 01:08:01,720 --> 01:08:04,560 Speaker 1: I'm like why. I almost didn't even remember what it was, 1285 01:08:04,600 --> 01:08:08,120 Speaker 1: but Sham like, oh that show, okay, let's go. I 1286 01:08:08,200 --> 01:08:11,520 Speaker 1: got got back you focused. I went out there Alexa 1287 01:08:11,600 --> 01:08:14,280 Speaker 1: Photos Office, our audition. I remember now in the middle 1288 01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:17,800 Speaker 1: of the audition, I'm doing my thing right, and the 1289 01:08:17,960 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 1: creator it was David Simon in there, and then it 1290 01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,600 Speaker 1: was Clauk Johnson, who was one of the director for 1291 01:08:23,600 --> 01:08:26,200 Speaker 1: the pilot and a few of the first season episodes. 1292 01:08:26,240 --> 01:08:28,960 Speaker 1: You know from COMMI Side Life on the Street, Clark Johnson, 1293 01:08:29,000 --> 01:08:31,280 Speaker 1: O g pick up the Clark john One of them 1294 01:08:31,360 --> 01:08:34,559 Speaker 1: leaned over to the other one in the audition, Rashawn, 1295 01:08:34,600 --> 01:08:39,640 Speaker 1: and said, we bay. So that's when that was my 1296 01:08:39,760 --> 01:08:44,080 Speaker 1: first incland nation of something like tangible because I'm auditioning 1297 01:08:44,200 --> 01:08:47,240 Speaker 1: for DiAngelo, by the way, right, So I don't know 1298 01:08:47,280 --> 01:08:49,880 Speaker 1: if anybody could even imagine that because Larry Gilliat did 1299 01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,280 Speaker 1: such a phenomenal job. When that that, who could imagine 1300 01:08:53,280 --> 01:08:55,760 Speaker 1: me playing DeAngelo with him doing you know what I'm saying. 1301 01:08:57,520 --> 01:09:00,479 Speaker 1: So when they said that, I kind of lost my 1302 01:09:00,560 --> 01:09:02,519 Speaker 1: beat for a minute, but then I got back on. 1303 01:09:03,200 --> 01:09:06,559 Speaker 1: I finished up, But that lingered on with me for 1304 01:09:06,600 --> 01:09:08,759 Speaker 1: some reason until I got that call from my agent 1305 01:09:08,800 --> 01:09:11,120 Speaker 1: that I booked it, like who is this? We make 1306 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:13,519 Speaker 1: Cavic And then even then I still didn't know because 1307 01:09:13,520 --> 01:09:15,880 Speaker 1: they said, oh, we made here. He'll be around for 1308 01:09:15,960 --> 01:09:18,840 Speaker 1: two or three episodes and you already know the rest. 1309 01:09:21,680 --> 01:09:24,280 Speaker 1: You know, Let's let's talk about you, man, because really, 1310 01:09:24,320 --> 01:09:25,920 Speaker 1: you know, bringing you on the show man because a 1311 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:28,600 Speaker 1: lot of times, you know, uh, you do interviews, they 1312 01:09:28,600 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 1: don't give a chance to tell your story, get to 1313 01:09:30,439 --> 01:09:33,200 Speaker 1: tell the journey. And this is about my many conversations 1314 01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:35,920 Speaker 1: about that journey because so many people need to hear that. 1315 01:09:36,360 --> 01:09:38,760 Speaker 1: You know, like I said, you took something that was 1316 01:09:38,800 --> 01:09:41,080 Speaker 1: short and then you turned it into a career. And 1317 01:09:41,120 --> 01:09:44,120 Speaker 1: that's really what's happening because you you know, it's like 1318 01:09:44,320 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 1: it's like a good like let's gonna say that Chicago Bulls. 1319 01:09:47,760 --> 01:09:50,559 Speaker 1: If you made the Chicago bulls. Guess when you're a champion, 1320 01:09:50,600 --> 01:09:53,120 Speaker 1: all right, You when we look at it back now, 1321 01:09:53,520 --> 01:09:55,960 Speaker 1: we didn't realize, you know, the last dance shoulders the 1322 01:09:56,000 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 1: greatness of the Chicago Bulls Run. Now when we look 1323 01:09:59,720 --> 01:10:04,879 Speaker 1: back the hy you go, wow, look at all those 1324 01:10:04,920 --> 01:10:08,280 Speaker 1: people who came out of the wire. So really when 1325 01:10:08,320 --> 01:10:10,880 Speaker 1: you look at her, Sorry, you were being pushed by 1326 01:10:10,920 --> 01:10:14,600 Speaker 1: the best every day. Talk to us about that's a 1327 01:10:14,840 --> 01:10:19,200 Speaker 1: that's a that that's surrounding, Talk about the rehearsals, talk 1328 01:10:19,240 --> 01:10:22,240 Speaker 1: about the you know, being pushed and being mentored as 1329 01:10:22,280 --> 01:10:25,720 Speaker 1: well to be your best during that time. I mean, 1330 01:10:25,840 --> 01:10:28,519 Speaker 1: you're Shaun, one of the greatest experiences of my life. 1331 01:10:28,520 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: We're talking about when dupis son, your son, Lance Reddy, 1332 01:10:32,439 --> 01:10:36,479 Speaker 1: Claude Peters. I mean, it keeps going with Joe John 1333 01:10:36,520 --> 01:10:40,720 Speaker 1: done Ma and uh Andre boy your Michael K. Williams. 1334 01:10:41,200 --> 01:10:43,040 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. It's just it's just it 1335 01:10:43,120 --> 01:10:45,880 Speaker 1: goes down the rabbit hole so crazy. And then whether 1336 01:10:45,960 --> 01:10:48,519 Speaker 1: you knew who those people were or not, by the 1337 01:10:48,640 --> 01:10:51,000 Speaker 1: end of the day's rat you knew who they was. 1338 01:10:51,080 --> 01:10:53,360 Speaker 1: You feel what I'm saying to Michael Kay, Well, come 1339 01:10:53,400 --> 01:10:57,559 Speaker 1: on now, if you didn't know now you know. And 1340 01:10:57,720 --> 01:11:00,160 Speaker 1: so that's when I knew I was being brought with 1341 01:11:00,240 --> 01:11:02,920 Speaker 1: the best and I said, oh, okay, this is this 1342 01:11:03,000 --> 01:11:05,439 Speaker 1: is turning into something. Now I can see where this 1343 01:11:05,520 --> 01:11:08,280 Speaker 1: is really going. Now I have a career in a yeah, 1344 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:12,439 Speaker 1: that uncertainty with you know, being rejected. I mean, I'm 1345 01:11:12,479 --> 01:11:14,640 Speaker 1: in a line of work where I get rejected or 1346 01:11:14,680 --> 01:11:17,720 Speaker 1: a living. People don't really understand what that feel like. 1347 01:11:17,760 --> 01:11:20,519 Speaker 1: You go home after these auditions and you're not the 1348 01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:24,840 Speaker 1: best man right right right, and then because you know 1349 01:11:24,920 --> 01:11:28,040 Speaker 1: that's that's that's that's what it really is, because rejection 1350 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:30,880 Speaker 1: is so high in Hollywood. You know, this is just 1351 01:11:30,960 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 1: imagine just going on auditions, auditions, auditions just didn't gonna 1352 01:11:35,120 --> 01:11:38,160 Speaker 1: job interviews, job interview, job interviews, and then they're just 1353 01:11:38,240 --> 01:11:40,360 Speaker 1: telling you you're not the one based on you and 1354 01:11:40,600 --> 01:11:42,960 Speaker 1: you're not the one, and you know you are. But 1355 01:11:43,040 --> 01:11:45,760 Speaker 1: then you gotta eat that. You have to accept that, 1356 01:11:46,400 --> 01:11:50,240 Speaker 1: dig down, regroup, re van, and say I'm gonna come 1357 01:11:50,240 --> 01:11:52,439 Speaker 1: out and do better. Like listen, for instance, I'm gonna 1358 01:11:52,439 --> 01:11:53,880 Speaker 1: tell you this is what happened for me. This is 1359 01:11:53,920 --> 01:11:58,080 Speaker 1: how I learned the code. With this rejection, I figured 1360 01:11:58,120 --> 01:12:00,680 Speaker 1: it like this, the more or this is you going 1361 01:12:00,760 --> 01:12:03,880 Speaker 1: on the better your chances, you're booking something, right, So 1362 01:12:03,920 --> 01:12:07,000 Speaker 1: as long as you're going on auditions, you're working, you're 1363 01:12:07,000 --> 01:12:09,840 Speaker 1: shopping in your blade, you're getting better, trust me, right, 1364 01:12:09,840 --> 01:12:12,920 Speaker 1: and then and then it's supposed to be fun. But 1365 01:12:13,000 --> 01:12:14,960 Speaker 1: then when you don't get the job, I mean, you know, 1366 01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:17,760 Speaker 1: there's no gratification and you're like, what's so fun about that? 1367 01:12:18,080 --> 01:12:19,800 Speaker 1: But what this is what I did for myself. I 1368 01:12:19,880 --> 01:12:24,040 Speaker 1: built the system up that for every ten auditions, I'm 1369 01:12:24,040 --> 01:12:28,200 Speaker 1: gonna get one, that one, that temper sent ratio out 1370 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,800 Speaker 1: of ten, I'm gonna get one. I was able to 1371 01:12:30,920 --> 01:12:33,240 Speaker 1: live and come to grips and terms with that. And 1372 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:36,559 Speaker 1: it was happening every eight, every six, and then lower 1373 01:12:36,600 --> 01:12:40,240 Speaker 1: and lower and lower every other audition our book a roll. 1374 01:12:40,600 --> 01:12:43,479 Speaker 1: And then that's when you start to you elevate in 1375 01:12:43,520 --> 01:12:46,240 Speaker 1: your mind, and then you start to believe in yourself 1376 01:12:46,280 --> 01:12:48,400 Speaker 1: because it's a relief system you got. You have to 1377 01:12:48,479 --> 01:12:51,160 Speaker 1: have to keep going. Wow, So how did you get 1378 01:12:51,200 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: into acting? Let's get that outfre let's hear the fans 1379 01:12:53,320 --> 01:12:55,599 Speaker 1: here about that. How did how did Hasan Johnson get 1380 01:12:55,600 --> 01:12:59,439 Speaker 1: into acting? Oh Man all praise due to Spike Lee 1381 01:12:59,760 --> 01:13:04,759 Speaker 1: low to save your spightly love. He had an open 1382 01:13:04,880 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 1: call for a movie called Clockers, and a girl at 1383 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:12,439 Speaker 1: school dared me to go to the open audition because 1384 01:13:12,479 --> 01:13:16,439 Speaker 1: I was just this like boisterous young boy. I played ball. 1385 01:13:16,479 --> 01:13:18,120 Speaker 1: I played football. I thought I was gonna be a 1386 01:13:18,160 --> 01:13:20,559 Speaker 1: ball up and I was pretty smart, you know. I 1387 01:13:20,600 --> 01:13:24,360 Speaker 1: was in the academic classes, like the student athlete whatnot. 1388 01:13:24,680 --> 01:13:26,960 Speaker 1: And everybody tried to get me to be more proactive 1389 01:13:26,960 --> 01:13:29,439 Speaker 1: with the academic stuff, you know, the glee club, the 1390 01:13:29,479 --> 01:13:32,360 Speaker 1: African Culture Club, the math club. I didn't want to 1391 01:13:32,400 --> 01:13:34,439 Speaker 1: do it. I just wanted to play ball, and you 1392 01:13:34,479 --> 01:13:38,479 Speaker 1: know that's it. So she did me because I always 1393 01:13:38,520 --> 01:13:41,160 Speaker 1: said I wanted to be on television. Oh well, why 1394 01:13:41,160 --> 01:13:43,439 Speaker 1: don't you go to this spight me ord, mr, I 1395 01:13:43,479 --> 01:13:46,760 Speaker 1: want to be on TV. And dared me in front 1396 01:13:46,800 --> 01:13:49,840 Speaker 1: of like the whole lunch room. Right, I'm holding court 1397 01:13:49,880 --> 01:13:52,080 Speaker 1: at lunch doing what I do, and she dared me 1398 01:13:52,120 --> 01:13:54,280 Speaker 1: in front. So I did one of those all right, 1399 01:13:54,320 --> 01:13:56,760 Speaker 1: who's going with me? And then everybody did one of 1400 01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:01,240 Speaker 1: these here and I went. It was like the dare 1401 01:14:01,360 --> 01:14:04,080 Speaker 1: I went. I got up that Saturday it was poured 1402 01:14:04,120 --> 01:14:05,840 Speaker 1: down rain and it was in hall and at the 1403 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,160 Speaker 1: school he had at a public school in Hall and 1404 01:14:08,240 --> 01:14:10,920 Speaker 1: I went up theory Sean and the rest is history. 1405 01:14:10,920 --> 01:14:14,040 Speaker 1: I went to one audition turning the seven callbacks, and 1406 01:14:14,120 --> 01:14:17,360 Speaker 1: I got a principal role in Spike lee film thirty 1407 01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:21,639 Speaker 1: million dollar Budget Out the Gate, Love It, Love It. Now. 1408 01:14:21,880 --> 01:14:24,719 Speaker 1: Now we're making the transition. Top five. You know that 1409 01:14:24,720 --> 01:14:26,479 Speaker 1: that I think Top five was the first time I 1410 01:14:26,920 --> 01:14:29,160 Speaker 1: saw you in funny scenarios. You know what I'm saying. 1411 01:14:29,439 --> 01:14:32,720 Speaker 1: But you yeah, I'll say that was the first. It 1412 01:14:32,920 --> 01:14:35,559 Speaker 1: might be something we're missing before that, but let's just 1413 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:39,679 Speaker 1: say with that. You know, this is Rashawn's career path 1414 01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:42,559 Speaker 1: for HASA. You know what I'm saying, I'm tracking. I'm tracking, 1415 01:14:42,640 --> 01:14:45,960 Speaker 1: you know. So top five, Top five was was the 1416 01:14:46,000 --> 01:14:48,639 Speaker 1: one for me. Just started looking at you because because 1417 01:14:48,640 --> 01:14:50,799 Speaker 1: I always, like, you know, I've been fortunate in Hollywood, 1418 01:14:50,840 --> 01:14:53,200 Speaker 1: the cast a lot of people, you know, to see 1419 01:14:53,360 --> 01:14:56,080 Speaker 1: African American talent get pigeonholes. And when I saw you 1420 01:14:56,120 --> 01:14:58,560 Speaker 1: in Top five, but you were still being yourself, but 1421 01:14:58,680 --> 01:15:02,639 Speaker 1: the but the spin on your words were funny. I said, 1422 01:15:02,640 --> 01:15:05,760 Speaker 1: this guy is funny. So talk about that experience, and 1423 01:15:05,800 --> 01:15:08,040 Speaker 1: then we're gonna go to the last o G with 1424 01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:11,599 Speaker 1: Tracy and Tiffany Hatters where you really started showing your 1425 01:15:11,640 --> 01:15:15,240 Speaker 1: comedy chops right and and and and Top five birth 1426 01:15:15,400 --> 01:15:18,160 Speaker 1: Meet even being able to have an opportunity and a 1427 01:15:18,240 --> 01:15:21,440 Speaker 1: shot to get on Last O G with Tracy Activity 1428 01:15:21,479 --> 01:15:24,040 Speaker 1: which was a blessing as well. But it all started 1429 01:15:24,080 --> 01:15:27,439 Speaker 1: with you know, me telling my uh my manager, Adam 1430 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:29,840 Speaker 1: Adam Robinson, like, you know, I gotta get out of 1431 01:15:29,920 --> 01:15:33,760 Speaker 1: this this pigeonhole that seemingly a pigeon hole, it's not 1432 01:15:33,960 --> 01:15:36,559 Speaker 1: quite one. Because Adam used to always say, how's time, 1433 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:39,200 Speaker 1: come on now? If you do something good, that's what 1434 01:15:39,280 --> 01:15:41,360 Speaker 1: they call you for your great at what you do. 1435 01:15:41,720 --> 01:15:44,920 Speaker 1: That's not your fault. You can't beat yourself down about that. 1436 01:15:45,000 --> 01:15:47,479 Speaker 1: So if it's time to be the thug and this 1437 01:15:47,720 --> 01:15:49,600 Speaker 1: you know, depending on what's going on and what the 1438 01:15:49,640 --> 01:15:52,320 Speaker 1: criteria is, then go out and be the best damn 1439 01:15:52,400 --> 01:15:54,640 Speaker 1: thug you can be. Ain't nothing wrong with it. And 1440 01:15:54,680 --> 01:15:56,960 Speaker 1: then um, I said, you all right, until we get 1441 01:15:57,000 --> 01:15:59,840 Speaker 1: to that bridge and we could cross that bridge into 1442 01:15:59,880 --> 01:16:02,000 Speaker 1: the light or heart and funny stuff, that's what we're 1443 01:16:02,000 --> 01:16:05,200 Speaker 1: gonna do. So what happens is when Top five comes along, 1444 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,680 Speaker 1: it's this character that's kind of just played meant to 1445 01:16:08,760 --> 01:16:12,519 Speaker 1: play be played straight. And and and in the world 1446 01:16:12,600 --> 01:16:16,040 Speaker 1: of all these comedians and funny people, naturally funny people 1447 01:16:16,240 --> 01:16:19,040 Speaker 1: because you know, when Jay Farrell talk, he's just funny. 1448 01:16:19,360 --> 01:16:21,800 Speaker 1: But Sherry Sfard talk, she's just funny. When trades Me talk, 1449 01:16:21,920 --> 01:16:25,840 Speaker 1: that just funny. You know, Chris, when they talk, they're 1450 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:30,280 Speaker 1: just funny. That tonality, that dick chance delivery is just funny. 1451 01:16:30,320 --> 01:16:33,240 Speaker 1: So they ain't gotta do much because they're established, you 1452 01:16:33,280 --> 01:16:35,400 Speaker 1: know that. But then here I go. So I'm not 1453 01:16:35,439 --> 01:16:38,920 Speaker 1: gonna go above and beyond either my best My best 1454 01:16:38,960 --> 01:16:42,040 Speaker 1: bet is to stand my lane and go straight. And 1455 01:16:42,120 --> 01:16:44,840 Speaker 1: that's what I did because I was fortunate enough to 1456 01:16:44,960 --> 01:16:48,400 Speaker 1: get I was privy to some info and their casting process. 1457 01:16:48,439 --> 01:16:50,920 Speaker 1: That's a hospital. Will say no names, but it was 1458 01:16:50,960 --> 01:16:53,519 Speaker 1: a couple of dudes came through here, a few heavy heaters. 1459 01:16:53,800 --> 01:16:55,880 Speaker 1: It just wasn't giving it up like you was doing it. 1460 01:16:55,920 --> 01:16:58,160 Speaker 1: We're just gonna leave it at that, right, right, right, 1461 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:02,120 Speaker 1: And it was understood, got to be explained, right, absolutely, 1462 01:17:02,120 --> 01:17:04,760 Speaker 1: And that's what we're talking about. Over tell you a 1463 01:17:04,800 --> 01:17:07,320 Speaker 1: couple of things about your manager, your managers, right, And 1464 01:17:07,640 --> 01:17:11,240 Speaker 1: you were right because if you don't fight for change, Hussan, 1465 01:17:11,720 --> 01:17:15,880 Speaker 1: then people will settle for what you get. And by fighting, 1466 01:17:15,960 --> 01:17:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, let's talking what we're talking to. Anybody who's 1467 01:17:18,160 --> 01:17:20,800 Speaker 1: watching the show and listen to the show. Your brand, 1468 01:17:20,840 --> 01:17:23,160 Speaker 1: because you have a brand and you fought for you know, 1469 01:17:23,200 --> 01:17:26,120 Speaker 1: I'm not satisfied. It's like, you know, it's like this, 1470 01:17:26,160 --> 01:17:27,920 Speaker 1: because you have a nice house, why can't you ask 1471 01:17:27,960 --> 01:17:31,040 Speaker 1: for a bigger house, a better car, or more groceries 1472 01:17:31,040 --> 01:17:33,600 Speaker 1: in the refrigerator. People like, well you got food in refrigerator. 1473 01:17:33,640 --> 01:17:36,280 Speaker 1: I want more And that's how I want more, right, 1474 01:17:36,360 --> 01:17:41,679 Speaker 1: I'm not content And and so that push enabled this 1475 01:17:41,760 --> 01:17:44,680 Speaker 1: conversation we're having right now because when you got on 1476 01:17:44,760 --> 01:17:47,400 Speaker 1: to the last O g and like I said, man, 1477 01:17:47,479 --> 01:17:50,840 Speaker 1: you know I really went he funny man. But I'm 1478 01:17:50,840 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 1: gonna just tell you about your funny Hussan. You know, 1479 01:17:53,240 --> 01:17:56,880 Speaker 1: like you said, you mentioned you know Sherry Shepard, Tracy Ferrell, 1480 01:17:57,040 --> 01:18:01,240 Speaker 1: you mentioned of course Chris Rock. They have built a legacy. There's, 1481 01:18:01,280 --> 01:18:03,800 Speaker 1: like I always tell people, stand up comedy just like math. 1482 01:18:03,920 --> 01:18:06,000 Speaker 1: If you know what two plus two equal fourth, then 1483 01:18:06,000 --> 01:18:09,120 Speaker 1: you know how to get there. Your style of comedy 1484 01:18:09,160 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 1: is that you're just natural. But you don't even understand 1485 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,920 Speaker 1: you funny, and I think that's you know what I'm saying, 1486 01:18:14,960 --> 01:18:16,920 Speaker 1: that's the gift because all those people have walked on 1487 01:18:17,080 --> 01:18:19,800 Speaker 1: stage in front of hundreds of thousands of people and 1488 01:18:19,840 --> 01:18:23,000 Speaker 1: made them laugh. And so you are just one of 1489 01:18:23,000 --> 01:18:25,559 Speaker 1: those guys who just naturally funny. If you get around 1490 01:18:25,600 --> 01:18:28,160 Speaker 1: your family, you crack them up. I don't give it you. 1491 01:18:28,280 --> 01:18:31,959 Speaker 1: Your family go ico you, but see what a comedian 1492 01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,479 Speaker 1: has done. He's taking his funny from in front of 1493 01:18:34,560 --> 01:18:39,800 Speaker 1: his family to strangers. And so because you've not done that, 1494 01:18:39,960 --> 01:18:43,160 Speaker 1: it questions your ability. For Brother. In the last o 1495 01:18:43,360 --> 01:18:46,400 Speaker 1: g that stepped you up, and then you went back 1496 01:18:46,439 --> 01:18:49,840 Speaker 1: to the life for life on ABC. Nice check. Wasn't 1497 01:18:49,840 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 1: supposed to be funny. You're supposed to be who you 1498 01:18:51,520 --> 01:18:54,599 Speaker 1: supposed to be incarcerated. Then in back of your mind 1499 01:18:54,640 --> 01:18:58,200 Speaker 1: you set these templates, templates or being able to do 1500 01:18:58,320 --> 01:19:02,040 Speaker 1: something more than just be a stereotypical black thug. The 1501 01:19:02,720 --> 01:19:07,040 Speaker 1: Flatbush Mr Meaner comes along, tell us about that whole process. 1502 01:19:07,040 --> 01:19:09,000 Speaker 1: I know we talked about it earlier, but I gotta 1503 01:19:09,040 --> 01:19:11,800 Speaker 1: close the show because brother, I can't I can't wait 1504 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:15,479 Speaker 1: to ei. This is what it is. The Sean, This 1505 01:19:15,720 --> 01:19:21,040 Speaker 1: like you said earlier, this is the most tangible opportunity 1506 01:19:21,080 --> 01:19:23,840 Speaker 1: to really show my range because then you're gonna see 1507 01:19:23,880 --> 01:19:26,800 Speaker 1: I mean, you're talking about the first episode. You got 1508 01:19:26,880 --> 01:19:32,120 Speaker 1: eight nine more to you got eight nine more and 1509 01:19:32,560 --> 01:19:35,360 Speaker 1: they let me go. Man, I'm telling you Kevin and 1510 01:19:35,479 --> 01:19:38,400 Speaker 1: Dan Man that the two of the greatest guys around 1511 01:19:38,479 --> 01:19:41,439 Speaker 1: right now that they are soon to leave a deep 1512 01:19:41,560 --> 01:19:44,439 Speaker 1: footprint in this game. I'm telling you what this one 1513 01:19:44,920 --> 01:19:47,000 Speaker 1: and it's all there for you and they and they 1514 01:19:47,120 --> 01:19:49,880 Speaker 1: really let me go. They just let me go like 1515 01:19:49,880 --> 01:19:51,800 Speaker 1: how they tell a box and let your hands go 1516 01:19:52,160 --> 01:19:54,320 Speaker 1: right right, right right right. Yeah, that's the best, the 1517 01:19:54,360 --> 01:19:58,080 Speaker 1: best analyty with this character I could come up with. 1518 01:19:58,439 --> 01:20:00,599 Speaker 1: You guys are gonna be in for it's a roller. 1519 01:20:00,880 --> 01:20:03,479 Speaker 1: There's so much emotion because you see here you talking 1520 01:20:03,520 --> 01:20:07,720 Speaker 1: about this this comedic stuff, this funny stuff. But then 1521 01:20:07,760 --> 01:20:10,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna be so emotional. You're gonna be stressed out 1522 01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:12,760 Speaker 1: a little bit, right well, you know the thing about it, 1523 01:20:12,800 --> 01:20:15,880 Speaker 1: but in a in a good way. Because Kevin's life 1524 01:20:15,920 --> 01:20:19,840 Speaker 1: is stressed. Its stressed because and he's relatable. Here's a 1525 01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:23,040 Speaker 1: guy that their lives are not moving forward, y'all. I'm 1526 01:20:23,040 --> 01:20:25,320 Speaker 1: gonna be honest with their lives are in a stand still. 1527 01:20:25,360 --> 01:20:28,519 Speaker 1: They got jobs that don't have career opportunities. They don't 1528 01:20:28,560 --> 01:20:31,160 Speaker 1: even see the career in the opportunity. All they are 1529 01:20:31,200 --> 01:20:32,920 Speaker 1: trying to do is get by. And I think we 1530 01:20:33,000 --> 01:20:34,800 Speaker 1: know a lot of people who are just trying to 1531 01:20:34,800 --> 01:20:37,640 Speaker 1: get by. That's why their characters are relatable. But what 1532 01:20:37,720 --> 01:20:41,040 Speaker 1: happens is when they try to move ahead and they 1533 01:20:41,040 --> 01:20:44,639 Speaker 1: start making mistakes, and that's when they wrote the mistakes 1534 01:20:44,640 --> 01:20:47,839 Speaker 1: start to come in. That makes you so humanizes everything 1535 01:20:47,960 --> 01:20:50,360 Speaker 1: because the way I can, I can say this the 1536 01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,960 Speaker 1: way Kevin encounters Uncle Drew as a delivery and when 1537 01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:59,040 Speaker 1: he comes into his place, he makes a mistake. The 1538 01:20:59,200 --> 01:21:03,840 Speaker 1: consequence stuff that mistake drives the first episode and the 1539 01:21:03,960 --> 01:21:08,080 Speaker 1: long term relationship. Am I right? Yes, it does that 1540 01:21:08,320 --> 01:21:10,840 Speaker 1: one mistake And you know I always say, Rashaan in 1541 01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:14,719 Speaker 1: real life, I always tell people you can't be upset 1542 01:21:14,760 --> 01:21:18,320 Speaker 1: about what is and what's not at the moment in time, 1543 01:21:18,360 --> 01:21:21,640 Speaker 1: because what you have to realize is every decision you 1544 01:21:21,840 --> 01:21:25,320 Speaker 1: made from out the wound to this day right now 1545 01:21:25,880 --> 01:21:31,040 Speaker 1: and in May, is that every direct decision led you 1546 01:21:31,120 --> 01:21:35,679 Speaker 1: the way you are, whether you're currently happy, sad, whatever 1547 01:21:35,720 --> 01:21:39,720 Speaker 1: the case says, right et cetera. Every decision you may 1548 01:21:39,880 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 1: lead you up to right now, and guess what is 1549 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:46,920 Speaker 1: a beautiful right now? He's I'm telling man. The blessing 1550 01:21:46,960 --> 01:21:50,280 Speaker 1: in this interview, man, was that I'm always been a 1551 01:21:50,280 --> 01:21:52,920 Speaker 1: fan of Hussal. I've always been a fan. And then 1552 01:21:53,240 --> 01:21:55,519 Speaker 1: and then going to showtime say I want to interview 1553 01:21:55,520 --> 01:21:58,040 Speaker 1: my bar but I got to see the pilot. I 1554 01:21:58,160 --> 01:22:02,599 Speaker 1: saw the pilot, Man, I am recommended. I'm mad because 1555 01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:06,200 Speaker 1: it's several weeks away before it premieres, so no listen. 1556 01:22:06,240 --> 01:22:08,559 Speaker 1: But you made my whole month the rest of my 1557 01:22:08,720 --> 01:22:11,280 Speaker 1: year is sean, because you know, we we don't know 1558 01:22:11,320 --> 01:22:13,800 Speaker 1: what we're in for. So you're telling me it's rest 1559 01:22:13,880 --> 01:22:19,040 Speaker 1: assurance that we're doing something right. I'm changing herself. I 1560 01:22:18,880 --> 01:22:20,360 Speaker 1: I you know, I ain't got time to be lying 1561 01:22:20,400 --> 01:22:24,280 Speaker 1: to you, okay, brother yo, I'm just saying like that. 1562 01:22:24,479 --> 01:22:28,160 Speaker 1: It's funny. Okay. They are straight funny, man, and you 1563 01:22:28,240 --> 01:22:31,320 Speaker 1: and you deliver it on a high level of opportunity 1564 01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:34,519 Speaker 1: because you're a regular guy. Man started out on a dare, 1565 01:22:34,880 --> 01:22:37,080 Speaker 1: but you saw it through. And that's what people understand 1566 01:22:37,120 --> 01:22:39,439 Speaker 1: is that is that whether you see it through, you 1567 01:22:39,439 --> 01:22:42,439 Speaker 1: know if people tell you or challenge you, then don't don't. 1568 01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:45,280 Speaker 1: Don't cower down to the challenge. See it through and 1569 01:22:45,280 --> 01:22:48,040 Speaker 1: see what the opportunity barrass itself. And that's what you're 1570 01:22:48,680 --> 01:22:51,960 Speaker 1: is half the battle. Gotta show up. But my man, 1571 01:22:52,080 --> 01:22:53,479 Speaker 1: I want to thank you for coming on money and 1572 01:22:53,479 --> 01:23:00,600 Speaker 1: make conversation. Hassan. You know we're gonna catch back. You 1573 01:23:00,680 --> 01:23:03,360 Speaker 1: know I gotta come back to you. Flatfish mrmean A 1574 01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:08,200 Speaker 1: premiers May third, Eastern Pacific time on Showtime. Oh Man, 1575 01:23:08,240 --> 01:23:12,439 Speaker 1: Hassan Jawnson plays Uncle Drew again. There's no character like 1576 01:23:12,520 --> 01:23:15,479 Speaker 1: it on TV right now. He's gonna change the game 1577 01:23:15,800 --> 01:23:18,320 Speaker 1: and they do what I think. That's an Emmy that's 1578 01:23:18,320 --> 01:23:22,160 Speaker 1: an Emmy winning character. You'd took it. I'm not even 1579 01:23:22,200 --> 01:23:25,439 Speaker 1: gonna say nothing. 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Hi. 1606 01:25:04,840 --> 01:25:07,760 Speaker 1: I am ra Sean McDonald hosting Money Making Conversation dot com. 1607 01:25:07,960 --> 01:25:10,639 Speaker 1: The cafe MARKA Swag Award is a celebration of black 1608 01:25:10,680 --> 01:25:13,639 Speaker 1: men making a difference in our community by empowering others 1609 01:25:13,720 --> 01:25:16,439 Speaker 1: to reach their life goals. They can becific leaders, people 1610 01:25:16,439 --> 01:25:20,040 Speaker 1: in business, activists, celebrities, and everyday dance. The Cafe Moka 1611 01:25:20,120 --> 01:25:24,120 Speaker 1: Swag Award Honora this weekend. John Hope Brian. 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So I decided not 1620 01:25:50,479 --> 01:25:52,519 Speaker 1: just complained about it to try to do something about it. 1621 01:25:52,560 --> 01:25:55,720 Speaker 1: So we partnered together with Shopify, the second largest e 1622 01:25:55,960 --> 01:25:59,760 Speaker 1: commers retailer in the world. The Cafemoka Swag Award represents 1623 01:25:59,760 --> 01:26:02,720 Speaker 1: men who have strength, whose wisdom is assertive, and who 1624 01:26:02,840 --> 01:26:06,400 Speaker 1: is genuine in their spirit. Welcome back to money making 1625 01:26:06,439 --> 01:26:11,240 Speaker 1: conversations with your host Rashan McDonald. Welcome to Money Making Conversations. 1626 01:26:11,280 --> 01:26:13,599 Speaker 1: I am your host for Sean McDonald. I always tell 1627 01:26:13,640 --> 01:26:16,240 Speaker 1: people it's time to stop reading other people's success stories 1628 01:26:16,240 --> 01:26:18,479 Speaker 1: and start writing your own. And I always tell people 1629 01:26:18,479 --> 01:26:21,599 Speaker 1: to leave with your gifts and don't let your age, friends, family, 1630 01:26:21,640 --> 01:26:24,599 Speaker 1: or coworkers stop you from planning or living your dreams. 1631 01:26:24,840 --> 01:26:29,520 Speaker 1: My interviews I have on money making conversations with celebrities, CEOs, entrepreneurs, 1632 01:26:29,520 --> 01:26:34,280 Speaker 1: and industry decision makers. Not today will include love match makers. 1633 01:26:34,800 --> 01:26:40,160 Speaker 1: My next guest is Spicy Marty. She's a magnetic matchmaker 1634 01:26:40,240 --> 01:26:44,120 Speaker 1: and relationship expert who's focused on encouraging individuals and couples 1635 01:26:44,160 --> 01:26:46,519 Speaker 1: to unlock the power of their passion in order to 1636 01:26:46,560 --> 01:26:49,600 Speaker 1: attract their purpose mate. She is the founder of the 1637 01:26:49,680 --> 01:26:53,479 Speaker 1: Spicy Life and we'll discuss Spicy Marty's career journey and 1638 01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:57,599 Speaker 1: the Spicy as sp i c Y fundamentals. Please Welcome 1639 01:26:57,640 --> 01:27:01,559 Speaker 1: to Money Making Conversations. Spicy Marty. How you doing. I'm 1640 01:27:01,600 --> 01:27:05,040 Speaker 1: doing amazing. Thank you for having me well great, great 1641 01:27:05,120 --> 01:27:07,960 Speaker 1: for coming on the show. You know my relationships and 1642 01:27:08,120 --> 01:27:11,759 Speaker 1: we come out of COVID. You know, I remember doing COVID. 1643 01:27:11,800 --> 01:27:13,479 Speaker 1: I was like, bo, I'm so glad I'm not in 1644 01:27:13,520 --> 01:27:16,640 Speaker 1: the game boy. You know you couldn't you know, you know, 1645 01:27:17,160 --> 01:27:20,160 Speaker 1: if you kiss somebody, you gonna get COVID. Relationships are 1646 01:27:20,160 --> 01:27:23,320 Speaker 1: like covid, you know, you know, the online and apps 1647 01:27:23,479 --> 01:27:26,920 Speaker 1: was just exploding the relationship you swapping right, left, wipe 1648 01:27:26,960 --> 01:27:30,040 Speaker 1: covid left, wipe covid right. It was just, uh, it 1649 01:27:30,200 --> 01:27:33,960 Speaker 1: was just really crazy in and now you you said 1650 01:27:34,040 --> 01:27:40,720 Speaker 1: during that period your business flourished. Yeah, I almost. There's 1651 01:27:40,760 --> 01:27:45,040 Speaker 1: a little bit of um guilt when I say like this, 1652 01:27:45,200 --> 01:27:47,080 Speaker 1: this was amazing for me, right because there was so 1653 01:27:47,120 --> 01:27:50,559 Speaker 1: many charnship going on, um, from a financial level to 1654 01:27:50,720 --> 01:27:53,880 Speaker 1: a romantic level for you know, the entire world. But 1655 01:27:54,520 --> 01:27:58,240 Speaker 1: being in an industry that focuses on helping you find 1656 01:27:58,320 --> 01:28:03,920 Speaker 1: love and your purpose made actually it was opening, awakening 1657 01:28:03,960 --> 01:28:07,479 Speaker 1: experience for a lot of folks. I think, Um deciding like, hey, 1658 01:28:07,520 --> 01:28:09,640 Speaker 1: this is time for me to get serious. Who knows 1659 01:28:09,680 --> 01:28:13,400 Speaker 1: if I'm going to spend another year in quarantine isolated, 1660 01:28:13,680 --> 01:28:16,960 Speaker 1: I really shouldn't, you know, take my companionship and relationship 1661 01:28:17,360 --> 01:28:21,400 Speaker 1: growth serious. So because our fundamental elements are based off 1662 01:28:21,439 --> 01:28:25,599 Speaker 1: of self passion, intimacy, communication, and learning to say yes. 1663 01:28:26,000 --> 01:28:27,840 Speaker 1: A lot of people decided that they were going to 1664 01:28:27,920 --> 01:28:31,240 Speaker 1: invest in themselves, uh and make sure that they don't 1665 01:28:31,280 --> 01:28:38,599 Speaker 1: spend alone. And so business has been amazing. What we're 1666 01:28:38,640 --> 01:28:41,160 Speaker 1: gonna talk about your business and the model in a minute, 1667 01:28:41,240 --> 01:28:43,280 Speaker 1: which is love. Well, I want to go back to 1668 01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,840 Speaker 1: you know, we don't always start there. You know, you 1669 01:28:46,080 --> 01:28:47,880 Speaker 1: was at I Heart Media, which I'm vary from me 1670 01:28:48,000 --> 01:28:51,040 Speaker 1: with because Steve Harvey and I did a syndication contract 1671 01:28:51,120 --> 01:28:53,160 Speaker 1: with I Hard and two thousand five he's still with 1672 01:28:53,200 --> 01:28:56,680 Speaker 1: our heard medium for in fact, my podcast Moneymaking Conversation 1673 01:28:57,080 --> 01:28:59,320 Speaker 1: is on the I Heart Media platform. And then you 1674 01:28:59,360 --> 01:29:03,240 Speaker 1: did work with HBO and uh talk about that thought 1675 01:29:03,439 --> 01:29:05,400 Speaker 1: in that area. And then we're gonna go back to college. 1676 01:29:05,400 --> 01:29:06,760 Speaker 1: We're gonna kind of like go there and then go 1677 01:29:06,800 --> 01:29:09,479 Speaker 1: back to college. Then we're gonna come back. Understand how 1678 01:29:09,680 --> 01:29:14,759 Speaker 1: you into this love making spicy zone. So my career 1679 01:29:14,920 --> 01:29:19,519 Speaker 1: journey has definitely been diverse, right, but everything that I've 1680 01:29:19,560 --> 01:29:22,679 Speaker 1: done has led me to this point. So I realized 1681 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:25,439 Speaker 1: at an early age then my purpose of my calling 1682 01:29:25,720 --> 01:29:29,160 Speaker 1: was to connect people, and understanding that that was a 1683 01:29:29,160 --> 01:29:31,479 Speaker 1: part of my spiritual gifts, made sure that I went 1684 01:29:31,560 --> 01:29:34,640 Speaker 1: to you know, undergrad and got my Master's in Communication 1685 01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:37,360 Speaker 1: since that's the number one breakdown in relationships, but all 1686 01:29:37,400 --> 01:29:42,479 Speaker 1: the while gaining experience as a relationship expert UM in 1687 01:29:42,960 --> 01:29:47,639 Speaker 1: media platforms from radio to television and so starting off 1688 01:29:47,680 --> 01:29:52,400 Speaker 1: at actually kJ L h early on UM with Steve Harvey, UM, 1689 01:29:52,400 --> 01:29:54,600 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, Steve Harvey actually was a kid, but with 1690 01:29:54,800 --> 01:30:00,120 Speaker 1: um CEV Wonder and then going from kJ A to 1691 01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:03,320 Speaker 1: NAINI two point three after having built like credibility in 1692 01:30:03,320 --> 01:30:06,760 Speaker 1: the radio industry, UM definitely helped me with my on 1693 01:30:06,920 --> 01:30:10,160 Speaker 1: air experience and doing a relationship radio show where it 1694 01:30:10,160 --> 01:30:13,719 Speaker 1: gave spicy tips and so all the meanwhile juggling media 1695 01:30:13,840 --> 01:30:18,080 Speaker 1: plus doing a sales executive position at HBO and making 1696 01:30:18,120 --> 01:30:20,400 Speaker 1: sure that like I also knew how to pitch myself 1697 01:30:20,400 --> 01:30:23,559 Speaker 1: and market and brands, so I was able to understand 1698 01:30:23,640 --> 01:30:25,960 Speaker 1: operations of business. At the same time, we'll understanding have 1699 01:30:26,040 --> 01:30:27,880 Speaker 1: to be like in front of the camera. Well, you know, 1700 01:30:28,640 --> 01:30:31,000 Speaker 1: articulation is the key. You know what you can't do. 1701 01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,720 Speaker 1: You can't start a trying to tell peop about love. 1702 01:30:33,800 --> 01:30:35,760 Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You can do you know 1703 01:30:35,760 --> 01:30:37,519 Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Spicy, you can't mess around looking like 1704 01:30:37,520 --> 01:30:40,160 Speaker 1: you confused. You know what I'm saying, so so so, 1705 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,960 Speaker 1: and also let's go be real. You have to look 1706 01:30:43,040 --> 01:30:45,519 Speaker 1: attractive or attractive people. You don't want all the ugly 1707 01:30:45,560 --> 01:30:47,400 Speaker 1: person telling you how to find love. You know, so 1708 01:30:47,640 --> 01:30:50,520 Speaker 1: you are attractive, and then you have the word spicy. 1709 01:30:51,120 --> 01:30:55,240 Speaker 1: Thank you this money? You know what? You know? If 1710 01:30:55,240 --> 01:30:58,000 Speaker 1: I saw you pict yourself, she's relationship. I don't think 1711 01:30:58,040 --> 01:31:02,200 Speaker 1: she's that busy if he's ugly, but you're not, so 1712 01:31:02,400 --> 01:31:05,160 Speaker 1: fortunately for this interview. But then you then, also you 1713 01:31:05,200 --> 01:31:08,200 Speaker 1: have the word spicy and you're attractive. Did that ever 1714 01:31:08,320 --> 01:31:10,240 Speaker 1: bother you that? Hey, you know, people might get the 1715 01:31:10,240 --> 01:31:12,960 Speaker 1: wrong idea about your brand, that you might get the 1716 01:31:12,960 --> 01:31:16,639 Speaker 1: wrong idea about you because you are serious professional. Okay, 1717 01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:21,599 Speaker 1: that's a great question. So I love the fact that um, 1718 01:31:21,640 --> 01:31:25,080 Speaker 1: spicy has become this word that we're like, oh what 1719 01:31:25,160 --> 01:31:28,080 Speaker 1: does that mean? You know there's this passion, um and 1720 01:31:28,200 --> 01:31:31,840 Speaker 1: desire that's associated with the word spicy, right, And so 1721 01:31:32,040 --> 01:31:34,959 Speaker 1: I love being able to have an opportunity to describe, 1722 01:31:35,000 --> 01:31:38,160 Speaker 1: even with questions like this, what spicy actually stands for. 1723 01:31:38,280 --> 01:31:41,000 Speaker 1: So I've always embraced it. Um. I coined the name 1724 01:31:41,040 --> 01:31:44,200 Speaker 1: actually in radio because I've always you know, pushed my 1725 01:31:44,280 --> 01:31:47,479 Speaker 1: business and my company and my expertise the spicy life. 1726 01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:49,320 Speaker 1: So when I coined the name Spicy Matty, it was 1727 01:31:49,360 --> 01:31:51,599 Speaker 1: because you know, the CEO of this company. But I'm 1728 01:31:51,640 --> 01:31:54,519 Speaker 1: always giving spicy tips. So when people ask me, like, 1729 01:31:54,600 --> 01:31:56,760 Speaker 1: you know, what does that mean? Like why do they 1730 01:31:56,800 --> 01:31:59,080 Speaker 1: call you spicy? You know, they always think it's because 1731 01:31:59,120 --> 01:32:03,120 Speaker 1: I'm this, you know, fiery, you know speces um, you 1732 01:32:03,160 --> 01:32:07,599 Speaker 1: know black in Mexican Latina, and so, uh, I get 1733 01:32:07,600 --> 01:32:09,640 Speaker 1: the opportunity to explain to them, no, I'm mixed. I 1734 01:32:09,640 --> 01:32:12,880 Speaker 1: get an opportunity to explain to them, um that spically 1735 01:32:12,920 --> 01:32:17,080 Speaker 1: actually stands for you know, self, passion, intimacy, communication and 1736 01:32:17,160 --> 01:32:19,400 Speaker 1: learning to say yes. And then I coined it in 1737 01:32:19,439 --> 01:32:22,320 Speaker 1: my company, so I embrace it and it's it's a 1738 01:32:22,360 --> 01:32:25,280 Speaker 1: catchy name that people get to remember. You know, they're 1739 01:32:25,640 --> 01:32:28,960 Speaker 1: they sometimes forget May, but they never forget spicy. You know, 1740 01:32:29,080 --> 01:32:31,559 Speaker 1: you have the corporate experience, now you're taking it to 1741 01:32:31,600 --> 01:32:34,920 Speaker 1: a personal level. How were you able to avoid pushback 1742 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:37,760 Speaker 1: when you started defining your voice? And I know you 1743 01:32:37,840 --> 01:32:40,479 Speaker 1: have history now, but in the beginning you have to 1744 01:32:40,520 --> 01:32:43,600 Speaker 1: develop that history. Talk about the in the beginning and 1745 01:32:43,640 --> 01:32:46,080 Speaker 1: then the journey to where we are at being interviewed 1746 01:32:46,200 --> 01:32:51,639 Speaker 1: with a resume of legitimacy tied to your brand. Yeah. 1747 01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:56,400 Speaker 1: I think when it comes to branding, um and credibility, right, 1748 01:32:56,479 --> 01:32:59,599 Speaker 1: people fall in love with the person right before they 1749 01:32:59,640 --> 01:33:01,240 Speaker 1: fall in the with the brand. They want to know 1750 01:33:01,280 --> 01:33:04,400 Speaker 1: who's behind that. So when I explained my story of 1751 01:33:04,640 --> 01:33:06,880 Speaker 1: making sure that you know, I elaborate on the fact 1752 01:33:06,960 --> 01:33:08,679 Speaker 1: that I've been doing this since I was a child, 1753 01:33:09,120 --> 01:33:12,839 Speaker 1: really connecting people. My mother was married three times single parents. 1754 01:33:13,000 --> 01:33:16,160 Speaker 1: Each time that she was married, I was set her up. 1755 01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:19,200 Speaker 1: I was going up to men in the grocery store 1756 01:33:19,240 --> 01:33:22,679 Speaker 1: at the gas station pitching my mother to them because 1757 01:33:22,720 --> 01:33:24,840 Speaker 1: I wanted a dad so bad. And so I felt 1758 01:33:24,880 --> 01:33:29,080 Speaker 1: really good at marketing at a very young age. You know, 1759 01:33:29,560 --> 01:33:32,559 Speaker 1: mas been you know number four now, So like it's 1760 01:33:32,560 --> 01:33:34,120 Speaker 1: safe to say I'm really good at what I do, 1761 01:33:34,920 --> 01:33:37,880 Speaker 1: but understanding that you need the education and the credibility 1762 01:33:38,200 --> 01:33:41,080 Speaker 1: behind that, right. I went to school mastered in communication 1763 01:33:41,160 --> 01:33:43,960 Speaker 1: and really developed my method there. So all of the 1764 01:33:44,000 --> 01:33:47,120 Speaker 1: information that I have is based on true research, try 1765 01:33:47,320 --> 01:33:50,000 Speaker 1: tested and proven. So when anyone comes from me and 1766 01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:51,559 Speaker 1: they're like, you know what, what makes you an expert? 1767 01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:54,040 Speaker 1: You just get to go around saying you're expert. I'm like, yes, actually, 1768 01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:56,280 Speaker 1: I have even more than ten years of experience. I've 1769 01:33:56,320 --> 01:33:59,959 Speaker 1: been doing this my entire life, setting up over multiple 1770 01:34:00,040 --> 01:34:03,360 Speaker 1: couples where they've actually walked down the aisle, had children 1771 01:34:03,520 --> 01:34:07,320 Speaker 1: based off of my you know connection, and then have 1772 01:34:07,439 --> 01:34:10,479 Speaker 1: relationships right now that are flourishing, that are getting you know, 1773 01:34:10,520 --> 01:34:13,080 Speaker 1: getting to the point of the proposal, and coaching my 1774 01:34:13,160 --> 01:34:15,840 Speaker 1: clients and seeing them all the way through. So I 1775 01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:18,960 Speaker 1: love when people question, you know, what makes you an 1776 01:34:18,960 --> 01:34:21,200 Speaker 1: expert or what makes you a gur guru because it 1777 01:34:21,240 --> 01:34:24,600 Speaker 1: gives the opportunity to really explain all of the investment 1778 01:34:24,640 --> 01:34:27,559 Speaker 1: and time that I put into this. And when people 1779 01:34:27,600 --> 01:34:30,679 Speaker 1: hear your story from a branding perspective, like they want 1780 01:34:30,720 --> 01:34:33,760 Speaker 1: to not just believe you, but they want a relationship 1781 01:34:33,800 --> 01:34:37,680 Speaker 1: with you. And being in a relationship industry, I understand 1782 01:34:37,960 --> 01:34:40,559 Speaker 1: that you need self awareness, You need to bring that 1783 01:34:40,640 --> 01:34:43,559 Speaker 1: passion and fire. You need to have intimacy to create 1784 01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,720 Speaker 1: a bond with your audience, and you need to have 1785 01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:50,240 Speaker 1: amazing communication and deciding how you deliver that message. And 1786 01:34:50,320 --> 01:34:52,080 Speaker 1: you also need to be willing to say yes to 1787 01:34:52,160 --> 01:34:55,120 Speaker 1: the risk, yes to the unknown, understanding you know that 1788 01:34:55,160 --> 01:34:57,439 Speaker 1: not everybody's gonna believe you. But that's okay. If you 1789 01:34:57,520 --> 01:35:00,400 Speaker 1: believe you, you're going to push that message anyways. So 1790 01:35:00,640 --> 01:35:03,160 Speaker 1: s p I c why it applies to everything absolutely, 1791 01:35:03,160 --> 01:35:06,320 Speaker 1: and so now you're the founder of the Spicy life. 1792 01:35:06,720 --> 01:35:10,959 Speaker 1: Okay again, caring a brand spicy learning from a standpoint. 1793 01:35:11,120 --> 01:35:13,439 Speaker 1: Using the word that's very popularly used for a lot 1794 01:35:13,520 --> 01:35:16,559 Speaker 1: of describes a lot of different things, but in this case, 1795 01:35:16,600 --> 01:35:19,200 Speaker 1: it describes romance. You're trying to trying to find that 1796 01:35:19,280 --> 01:35:23,720 Speaker 1: purpose mate? Now what is the purpose mate? So I 1797 01:35:23,840 --> 01:35:27,840 Speaker 1: love the purpose made term right because it makes you wonder. 1798 01:35:28,120 --> 01:35:30,840 Speaker 1: It's not something that we hear often. Most people think 1799 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:33,120 Speaker 1: of soul mate. They've gotten familiar with that word, and 1800 01:35:33,160 --> 01:35:36,920 Speaker 1: that is when you have deep affection and romantic feelings 1801 01:35:37,280 --> 01:35:41,519 Speaker 1: for somewhat amazing chemistry I speak to purpose mate. What 1802 01:35:41,560 --> 01:35:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm talking about is having chemistry and compatibility. So you 1803 01:35:45,040 --> 01:35:46,920 Speaker 1: need both of those elements. You can't just have the 1804 01:35:46,960 --> 01:35:49,080 Speaker 1: fire and desire. You also have to have the compat 1805 01:35:49,280 --> 01:35:52,519 Speaker 1: compatibility element. And then in addition to that, you have 1806 01:35:52,600 --> 01:35:55,240 Speaker 1: to be someone who understands and knows your purpose in 1807 01:35:55,439 --> 01:35:58,320 Speaker 1: life and then wants to be with someone who understands 1808 01:35:58,360 --> 01:36:02,120 Speaker 1: their purpose and then you eyes merged two purposes together 1809 01:36:02,320 --> 01:36:05,840 Speaker 1: to help one another form or build your empire the 1810 01:36:05,880 --> 01:36:08,439 Speaker 1: mission that you were put on here to do. You're 1811 01:36:08,560 --> 01:36:10,760 Speaker 1: very clear on that, and you understand your role in 1812 01:36:10,800 --> 01:36:14,160 Speaker 1: that person's life and you're there to support them, uplift them, 1813 01:36:14,560 --> 01:36:17,400 Speaker 1: use their talents and gifts on another level and help 1814 01:36:17,479 --> 01:36:20,000 Speaker 1: lift them up. So your purpose mate is way bigger 1815 01:36:20,040 --> 01:36:23,600 Speaker 1: than just like, oh, you know, he's fine, I love him. No, 1816 01:36:23,840 --> 01:36:25,960 Speaker 1: your purpose mate is like, how do I get you 1817 01:36:26,040 --> 01:36:28,519 Speaker 1: to where God intended for you to be? And it's 1818 01:36:28,560 --> 01:36:31,519 Speaker 1: by any means necessary, no matter what comes against us 1819 01:36:31,520 --> 01:36:34,080 Speaker 1: to try to destroy us. I'm pushing you, but I 1820 01:36:34,120 --> 01:36:37,400 Speaker 1: love money. Who are you fine? Which is very true. 1821 01:36:37,439 --> 01:36:39,599 Speaker 1: Now that's why I like what you just said. First 1822 01:36:39,640 --> 01:36:42,439 Speaker 1: of all, soul mate really has not been working in 1823 01:36:42,479 --> 01:36:45,240 Speaker 1: the marriage world because of the marriage is and in divorce. 1824 01:36:45,680 --> 01:36:47,680 Speaker 1: Now when you ask somebody what your soul mate, they 1825 01:36:47,720 --> 01:36:51,479 Speaker 1: really can't explain to what that is a soul mate. Now, 1826 01:36:51,479 --> 01:36:54,400 Speaker 1: when you a purpose mate, you actually had a point 1827 01:36:54,400 --> 01:36:58,080 Speaker 1: of view. They had credibility. I understood it and I 1828 01:36:58,200 --> 01:37:01,960 Speaker 1: brought value. So up to me, this whole purpose made. 1829 01:37:02,000 --> 01:37:05,040 Speaker 1: If you find a purpose made, the percentages of successful 1830 01:37:05,080 --> 01:37:08,599 Speaker 1: marriages may go up because soul mate is not working. 1831 01:37:08,720 --> 01:37:11,759 Speaker 1: I'm just sorry it's not working and falling its failed 1832 01:37:11,880 --> 01:37:14,720 Speaker 1: because can nobody explain what the soul mate is. I 1833 01:37:14,760 --> 01:37:16,960 Speaker 1: can't tell you. I've never used the word soul mate, 1834 01:37:17,280 --> 01:37:20,720 Speaker 1: but purpose made I could use because it has you know, 1835 01:37:20,760 --> 01:37:23,080 Speaker 1: It's like anything you're do in life, like a good job, 1836 01:37:23,280 --> 01:37:25,360 Speaker 1: you have to know it's a contract. If you pretending 1837 01:37:25,360 --> 01:37:28,280 Speaker 1: to forget that, marriage is a contract, you know, and 1838 01:37:28,320 --> 01:37:29,920 Speaker 1: you have the right to break it if it's not 1839 01:37:30,040 --> 01:37:32,920 Speaker 1: working for you. Now in this situation, your purpose made 1840 01:37:33,040 --> 01:37:36,839 Speaker 1: that is turned to that person's purpose, that person's purpose 1841 01:37:37,280 --> 01:37:39,519 Speaker 1: or what they want to do with their lives, and 1842 01:37:39,720 --> 01:37:41,880 Speaker 1: that never comes up. And being a soul mate. I 1843 01:37:41,960 --> 01:37:44,519 Speaker 1: really like that concept that you really have honed on 1844 01:37:44,560 --> 01:37:47,519 Speaker 1: to because it makes me, made me think, It made 1845 01:37:47,520 --> 01:37:50,360 Speaker 1: me get a clear understanding of Okay, when I look 1846 01:37:50,400 --> 01:37:53,320 Speaker 1: at somebody, I always tell people like you know when 1847 01:37:53,360 --> 01:37:55,920 Speaker 1: you when you can marry for money, you can marry 1848 01:37:55,920 --> 01:37:58,080 Speaker 1: from somebody who's educated. You can marry with somebody because 1849 01:37:58,080 --> 01:38:00,800 Speaker 1: they But if you're marryed for fineness, you're married because 1850 01:38:00,840 --> 01:38:03,880 Speaker 1: he or he made me laugh. I'm gonna tell you, 1851 01:38:04,040 --> 01:38:06,760 Speaker 1: right now that's gonna be a short relationship. It might 1852 01:38:06,880 --> 01:38:09,080 Speaker 1: you lead the marriage and the sex gonna get old. 1853 01:38:09,400 --> 01:38:11,080 Speaker 1: He and when the sex get old, you're won't be 1854 01:38:11,200 --> 01:38:14,120 Speaker 1: laughing as much. But if you're married based on a plan, 1855 01:38:14,320 --> 01:38:16,960 Speaker 1: and that's what purpose made is it's a plan. Correct 1856 01:38:17,040 --> 01:38:19,760 Speaker 1: talk to me. I think I'm into this spicy like 1857 01:38:19,880 --> 01:38:25,240 Speaker 1: you having said a mighty to hire. You know, I'm 1858 01:38:25,280 --> 01:38:27,439 Speaker 1: just saying, but you you're leading me down the right 1859 01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:30,360 Speaker 1: path because, like I said, I did the book act 1860 01:38:30,439 --> 01:38:32,120 Speaker 1: like a lady to think like a man with Steve Harder. 1861 01:38:32,360 --> 01:38:34,760 Speaker 1: The reason that book was so successful, one of the 1862 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:39,320 Speaker 1: things was the naty Day the naty day uh period 1863 01:38:39,360 --> 01:38:41,800 Speaker 1: that that you had in there, because it was like, 1864 01:38:41,960 --> 01:38:44,240 Speaker 1: if a job could put your probation for ninety days, 1865 01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:47,080 Speaker 1: why can't you put your relationship on probation for ninety days? 1866 01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,240 Speaker 1: And so this is the same thing. It was tied 1867 01:38:49,320 --> 01:38:52,360 Speaker 1: to making the decision not so much on emotion, but 1868 01:38:52,560 --> 01:38:54,559 Speaker 1: is this the right person for you? And when I 1869 01:38:54,600 --> 01:38:57,600 Speaker 1: hear the word soul mate, and we've all heard that 1870 01:38:57,640 --> 01:39:00,800 Speaker 1: and we all used I've used that in some form, 1871 01:39:00,840 --> 01:39:02,720 Speaker 1: I don't know what that means, but I knew with 1872 01:39:02,880 --> 01:39:06,840 Speaker 1: Naty Day probation man does in job and in a relationship. 1873 01:39:06,960 --> 01:39:10,840 Speaker 1: Also know what purpose made me? Once you explain to me, 1874 01:39:10,960 --> 01:39:12,639 Speaker 1: and once you explain it to any of your clients, 1875 01:39:12,640 --> 01:39:15,720 Speaker 1: I'm sure they go, Wow, I never thought like that. 1876 01:39:16,240 --> 01:39:19,080 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. You're absolutely hidden on the money. And the 1877 01:39:19,080 --> 01:39:21,879 Speaker 1: thing is is one thing that I do love about 1878 01:39:22,880 --> 01:39:24,439 Speaker 1: Act like the Lady, things like a man, you know, 1879 01:39:24,439 --> 01:39:27,920 Speaker 1: and I give you crazy insane props um for everything 1880 01:39:27,920 --> 01:39:30,320 Speaker 1: that you did for publishing that book and getting it 1881 01:39:30,360 --> 01:39:35,840 Speaker 1: out there. UM is that it speaks to UM strategy, 1882 01:39:35,880 --> 01:39:38,519 Speaker 1: which I speak to as well. Right what you're saying 1883 01:39:38,600 --> 01:39:41,519 Speaker 1: right now is that we have to operate less in 1884 01:39:41,640 --> 01:39:44,679 Speaker 1: emotion and how someone makes us feel and more in logic, 1885 01:39:44,760 --> 01:39:47,280 Speaker 1: which is totally what I'm in support of. I once 1886 01:39:47,320 --> 01:39:50,000 Speaker 1: you have books, and once you have the chemistry and compatibility, 1887 01:39:50,080 --> 01:39:52,360 Speaker 1: but what does that look like? How do we create 1888 01:39:52,400 --> 01:39:55,760 Speaker 1: a strategic action plan for what your relationship goal is? 1889 01:39:56,040 --> 01:39:57,920 Speaker 1: And that's what I get to the root of because 1890 01:39:57,920 --> 01:39:59,920 Speaker 1: a lot of people are just out here floating around 1891 01:40:00,000 --> 01:40:02,320 Speaker 1: trying to figure it out. And one thing that I 1892 01:40:02,360 --> 01:40:04,320 Speaker 1: do support in Act like the Lady, thinks like a 1893 01:40:04,320 --> 01:40:07,639 Speaker 1: man as well is that ninety day rule. Now can 1894 01:40:07,720 --> 01:40:11,479 Speaker 1: most people follow it when they come into my program. 1895 01:40:11,479 --> 01:40:14,559 Speaker 1: That's a whole. That's a whole, another whole, another topic. Right, 1896 01:40:14,560 --> 01:40:17,120 Speaker 1: they require a lot of strength when it comes to 1897 01:40:17,200 --> 01:40:20,080 Speaker 1: being absinent for those ninety days. But I fully support that, 1898 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:24,160 Speaker 1: actually implement that in my Spicy program because I need 1899 01:40:24,200 --> 01:40:27,160 Speaker 1: people to have clarity of thoughts. I don't want them 1900 01:40:27,160 --> 01:40:30,160 Speaker 1: emotionally attached to someone who hasn't earned all of the 1901 01:40:30,280 --> 01:40:31,880 Speaker 1: things that need to show up when it comes to 1902 01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:35,240 Speaker 1: their core values, their deal breakers, consistency, and when we 1903 01:40:35,280 --> 01:40:37,880 Speaker 1: speak to your purpose mate, your purpose mate has to 1904 01:40:37,880 --> 01:40:41,200 Speaker 1: show the compatibility element before we give our bodies to them. 1905 01:40:41,240 --> 01:40:44,320 Speaker 1: And what I mean by compatibility is I'm talking amazing 1906 01:40:44,360 --> 01:40:47,800 Speaker 1: communication that's an alignment with your definition of communication. I'm 1907 01:40:47,840 --> 01:40:51,840 Speaker 1: talking shared activities and interests, and I'm talking about being 1908 01:40:51,840 --> 01:40:55,000 Speaker 1: at the same place and your guys time and intention 1909 01:40:55,360 --> 01:40:57,680 Speaker 1: of what you guys want from the relationship. Right, can 1910 01:40:57,720 --> 01:40:59,840 Speaker 1: I merge my life with this person and are we 1911 01:40:59,880 --> 01:41:02,240 Speaker 1: have the same place in our lives in knowing what 1912 01:41:02,240 --> 01:41:04,960 Speaker 1: our purpose is and what's the game plans to fulfilling that. 1913 01:41:05,360 --> 01:41:08,400 Speaker 1: So I'm huge on strategy and it's something that I've 1914 01:41:08,439 --> 01:41:11,240 Speaker 1: created my whole method around when it comes to manifesting 1915 01:41:11,280 --> 01:41:14,640 Speaker 1: what you truly want. I'm not just about words and emotions. 1916 01:41:14,720 --> 01:41:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm about I'm about yes, manifestation. But we do that 1917 01:41:18,000 --> 01:41:21,439 Speaker 1: through behavioral changes and actions. What's this game plan look like? Well? 1918 01:41:21,439 --> 01:41:24,519 Speaker 1: It really interesting. So when one because you know a 1919 01:41:24,560 --> 01:41:28,160 Speaker 1: lot of the big companies out there making money of matchmaking, 1920 01:41:28,320 --> 01:41:31,799 Speaker 1: and then you just you know, you just ficy body. Okay, 1921 01:41:31,840 --> 01:41:35,160 Speaker 1: So how do you compete with the big ballers out there? 1922 01:41:35,240 --> 01:41:38,320 Speaker 1: They got the million dollar commercial brands, you know, they 1923 01:41:38,360 --> 01:41:42,160 Speaker 1: on social media, they do geofencing on couples, you know, 1924 01:41:42,240 --> 01:41:45,920 Speaker 1: and it's credibility. How how did you manage to, you know, 1925 01:41:46,000 --> 01:41:49,599 Speaker 1: start defining your lane and being on major talk shows 1926 01:41:49,720 --> 01:41:53,920 Speaker 1: and being an advice person? How did that happen? I 1927 01:41:53,960 --> 01:41:56,840 Speaker 1: think a part of my success has been driven not 1928 01:41:56,920 --> 01:42:00,200 Speaker 1: just from the branding component of understanding what my brand is, 1929 01:42:00,240 --> 01:42:02,360 Speaker 1: but also, and I'll tell this to my datas to 1930 01:42:02,880 --> 01:42:05,680 Speaker 1: what's your product differentiator? Right? What makes you different or 1931 01:42:05,720 --> 01:42:08,080 Speaker 1: sets you apart from what else is on the market. 1932 01:42:08,439 --> 01:42:11,160 Speaker 1: And so when we speak in business terms, there's tons 1933 01:42:11,160 --> 01:42:15,040 Speaker 1: of other matchmaking companies, there's tons of competitors completely understand that, 1934 01:42:15,439 --> 01:42:17,920 Speaker 1: but what they're not doing is giving you the personal 1935 01:42:17,960 --> 01:42:21,240 Speaker 1: relationship coaching that comes with the matchmaking. I can introduce 1936 01:42:21,280 --> 01:42:24,680 Speaker 1: you to a hundred people, but if I don't know 1937 01:42:24,720 --> 01:42:27,639 Speaker 1: how to raise your vibration, if I don't know your strengths, 1938 01:42:27,640 --> 01:42:31,200 Speaker 1: your weaknesses, opportunities and threats um which is what I 1939 01:42:31,240 --> 01:42:34,120 Speaker 1: do for my clients a squat analysis, right, really understanding 1940 01:42:34,120 --> 01:42:37,080 Speaker 1: their character, what their beliefs are, you know what's there, 1941 01:42:37,160 --> 01:42:40,320 Speaker 1: what's holding them back, what's their limiting beliefs, Really understanding 1942 01:42:40,320 --> 01:42:43,120 Speaker 1: who they are as a person and developing that personal tension. 1943 01:42:43,400 --> 01:42:45,360 Speaker 1: How am I going to set you up with your 1944 01:42:45,400 --> 01:42:48,200 Speaker 1: purpose mate when we haven't even gotten to the root 1945 01:42:48,360 --> 01:42:50,799 Speaker 1: of you know who you are, some of your childhood traumas. 1946 01:42:50,920 --> 01:42:53,840 Speaker 1: So there's a lot of coaching that comes with my program. 1947 01:42:53,880 --> 01:42:56,320 Speaker 1: In addition to the weekly coaching, you also get an 1948 01:42:56,320 --> 01:43:00,479 Speaker 1: image consultant, I redo your look. You also get a 1949 01:43:00,520 --> 01:43:03,120 Speaker 1: professional astrologist as someone who's telling me what are the 1950 01:43:03,120 --> 01:43:05,560 Speaker 1: best zodiac signs are for you. I also have a 1951 01:43:05,600 --> 01:43:08,120 Speaker 1: marriage and damn family therapists on staff. And then I 1952 01:43:08,160 --> 01:43:10,760 Speaker 1: also redo your online dating profile. So everything that we're 1953 01:43:10,800 --> 01:43:14,719 Speaker 1: doing is transformational. And we even have a fitness coach 1954 01:43:14,760 --> 01:43:18,040 Speaker 1: should we need to like help you from a health standpoint. 1955 01:43:18,439 --> 01:43:22,839 Speaker 1: So it's full, full encompassing and very hands on, whereas 1956 01:43:22,840 --> 01:43:26,160 Speaker 1: other matchmaking companies are just setting you up and they're 1957 01:43:26,200 --> 01:43:29,320 Speaker 1: like good luck, now pay my tin kkay, my twenty k, 1958 01:43:29,760 --> 01:43:32,120 Speaker 1: and they're not really working on who you are as 1959 01:43:32,120 --> 01:43:35,720 Speaker 1: a person and getting to the root of relationship development. 1960 01:43:35,960 --> 01:43:38,440 Speaker 1: And I think that's what you know, my main emphasis 1961 01:43:38,520 --> 01:43:40,880 Speaker 1: is is that interpersonal development and how do I help 1962 01:43:40,920 --> 01:43:43,360 Speaker 1: you become the best version of yourself so that you 1963 01:43:43,400 --> 01:43:48,960 Speaker 1: can reach relationship actualization. Uh, hopefully you've trade bok purpose 1964 01:43:49,040 --> 01:43:53,080 Speaker 1: made have you You're just giving, You're giving, You're giving 1965 01:43:53,120 --> 01:43:54,840 Speaker 1: me a bar right there. We're working on it right now. 1966 01:43:56,760 --> 01:43:59,240 Speaker 1: Things that have to trade market addition to it, to 1967 01:43:59,360 --> 01:44:01,439 Speaker 1: the spicy life which you already have and spicy money. 1968 01:44:01,800 --> 01:44:03,800 Speaker 1: But I have five things in the in the queue 1969 01:44:03,920 --> 01:44:06,479 Speaker 1: right now, right because I know I'm just sitting there 1970 01:44:06,479 --> 01:44:08,559 Speaker 1: there just looking at you because you know you got it, 1971 01:44:08,640 --> 01:44:11,479 Speaker 1: you know, and I like a talent all the time. 1972 01:44:11,640 --> 01:44:13,240 Speaker 1: I'll be coming for you when I get my book. 1973 01:44:13,280 --> 01:44:17,080 Speaker 1: I need your help problems. I've developed money making conversation 1974 01:44:17,120 --> 01:44:18,639 Speaker 1: as a voice. You know, a lot of people wanted 1975 01:44:18,640 --> 01:44:21,200 Speaker 1: me to mentor them and also give them advice where 1976 01:44:21,200 --> 01:44:23,000 Speaker 1: I can do that in interviews. And also if you 1977 01:44:23,080 --> 01:44:25,639 Speaker 1: listen to the interviews that I do with talented people 1978 01:44:25,680 --> 01:44:28,400 Speaker 1: like you, maybe you can take those little moments of 1979 01:44:28,560 --> 01:44:34,200 Speaker 1: enthusiasm or information because it's tied to both, because successful 1980 01:44:34,200 --> 01:44:38,360 Speaker 1: people are driven by their hard work also by their excitement, 1981 01:44:38,600 --> 01:44:40,640 Speaker 1: like you're excited about what you do. I don't know 1982 01:44:40,720 --> 01:44:43,919 Speaker 1: anybody who who makes a lot of money and unhappy 1983 01:44:44,000 --> 01:44:46,839 Speaker 1: they're gonna change the game. You know, I'm not unhappy 1984 01:44:46,920 --> 01:44:49,040 Speaker 1: or anything I do. I wake up happy. That gets 1985 01:44:49,120 --> 01:44:50,920 Speaker 1: me out of bed, That gets me out the front door, 1986 01:44:51,240 --> 01:44:53,240 Speaker 1: and it also causes me to return home so I 1987 01:44:53,240 --> 01:44:56,200 Speaker 1: can rest up and do it again the next day. Now, Spicy, 1988 01:44:56,240 --> 01:44:58,799 Speaker 1: you know it said yes it's important in the learning 1989 01:44:58,840 --> 01:45:02,640 Speaker 1: of say yes now in relationships. You've always heard the 1990 01:45:02,640 --> 01:45:06,880 Speaker 1: word now to say no now, and you is learning 1991 01:45:06,920 --> 01:45:09,679 Speaker 1: how to say yes because that's the last of the 1992 01:45:09,880 --> 01:45:13,360 Speaker 1: terms with spices s P I C Y Y stands 1993 01:45:13,400 --> 01:45:17,880 Speaker 1: for yes. So talk about that. So the reason why 1994 01:45:17,960 --> 01:45:20,880 Speaker 1: yes it's so important is um exactly for what you said, 1995 01:45:21,000 --> 01:45:24,680 Speaker 1: right society and what's going on culturally right now is 1996 01:45:24,720 --> 01:45:29,760 Speaker 1: that the you know, rate of marriage for millennial age 1997 01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:33,320 Speaker 1: groups is slowing down as far as like the time 1998 01:45:33,720 --> 01:45:36,160 Speaker 1: that we're choosing to get married in our lives. Right, 1999 01:45:36,240 --> 01:45:39,720 Speaker 1: So there's all of this um fear based around why 2000 01:45:39,760 --> 01:45:41,920 Speaker 1: we need to wait, why we need to be making 2001 01:45:41,920 --> 01:45:44,839 Speaker 1: slower decisions, because you know, we saw what our parents 2002 01:45:44,840 --> 01:45:47,479 Speaker 1: did and our parents parents, and because the divorce rate 2003 01:45:47,520 --> 01:45:50,719 Speaker 1: is so high, we're now dating from a place of fear. 2004 01:45:51,240 --> 01:45:52,880 Speaker 1: And so when you date from a place of fear, 2005 01:45:53,000 --> 01:45:55,920 Speaker 1: that's a scarcity mindset. You're going to be limited in 2006 01:45:56,120 --> 01:45:58,360 Speaker 1: what you believe your options are. You're gonna be limited 2007 01:45:58,600 --> 01:46:01,280 Speaker 1: and what you believe that you can tract. So when 2008 01:46:01,320 --> 01:46:03,760 Speaker 1: I hear limiting beliefs, I have to help you with 2009 01:46:03,920 --> 01:46:07,400 Speaker 1: raising your vibration and having not a scarcity mindset but 2010 01:46:07,439 --> 01:46:10,360 Speaker 1: an abundance mindset. And when we have an abundance mindset, 2011 01:46:10,400 --> 01:46:12,280 Speaker 1: it means that we don't have to be afraid of 2012 01:46:12,320 --> 01:46:15,120 Speaker 1: the unknown. It means that we can take risks and 2013 01:46:15,200 --> 01:46:18,160 Speaker 1: step into them with strategy, right, Because I believe in risk, 2014 01:46:18,320 --> 01:46:21,400 Speaker 1: but I believe in calculating risks. So when you're dating, 2015 01:46:21,439 --> 01:46:24,240 Speaker 1: you're going through the process, or even when you're in partnership, 2016 01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:28,520 Speaker 1: really evaluating you know, the choices that you're making researching 2017 01:46:28,680 --> 01:46:30,840 Speaker 1: you know why you want this relationship and what's that 2018 01:46:30,920 --> 01:46:33,759 Speaker 1: looks like, but also what's holding you back, what's stopping 2019 01:46:33,760 --> 01:46:36,639 Speaker 1: you from being in a healthy, loving relationship, And when 2020 01:46:36,680 --> 01:46:40,320 Speaker 1: it comes to partnership, really understanding that, yes, you want 2021 01:46:40,360 --> 01:46:44,920 Speaker 1: those bubble going, warm butterfly feelings, but you really want 2022 01:46:44,960 --> 01:46:47,840 Speaker 1: the person who's going to submit. And when I say submit, 2023 01:46:48,720 --> 01:46:52,160 Speaker 1: I'm talking about the person who says yes to what's 2024 01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:54,760 Speaker 1: healthiest for the relationship. I'm not talking about, you know, 2025 01:46:55,040 --> 01:46:59,280 Speaker 1: bending down on one knee or doing whatever your partner says. 2026 01:46:59,439 --> 01:47:01,920 Speaker 1: When I talk submission, I'm saying about what am I 2027 01:47:01,960 --> 01:47:05,320 Speaker 1: willing to sacrifice in this relationship to have what I want? 2028 01:47:05,439 --> 01:47:08,120 Speaker 1: Because you're not going to get percent of the person, right, 2029 01:47:08,160 --> 01:47:10,719 Speaker 1: I definitely believe in the So what are you willing 2030 01:47:10,760 --> 01:47:13,720 Speaker 1: to sacrifice about you? Your personality that's not serving you, 2031 01:47:13,720 --> 01:47:15,559 Speaker 1: that's holding you back? And then what are you willing 2032 01:47:15,600 --> 01:47:18,280 Speaker 1: to sacrifice from a behavioral standpoint and making sure that 2033 01:47:18,320 --> 01:47:21,559 Speaker 1: your partner's love language is fed. And oftentimes we want 2034 01:47:21,560 --> 01:47:23,320 Speaker 1: to you know, I want to put these boundaries up, 2035 01:47:23,360 --> 01:47:24,720 Speaker 1: I want to put these walls up. And we're so 2036 01:47:24,800 --> 01:47:28,480 Speaker 1: guarded because we're afraid to love. So my whole emphasis 2037 01:47:28,520 --> 01:47:32,640 Speaker 1: around yes is like, okay, let's pushack past these boundaries. 2038 01:47:32,800 --> 01:47:34,680 Speaker 1: And if we believe that we can actually have what 2039 01:47:34,720 --> 01:47:36,640 Speaker 1: we want, what are we afraid of? We just have 2040 01:47:36,680 --> 01:47:40,040 Speaker 1: to step into our future self and go get it. Wow. 2041 01:47:41,080 --> 01:47:46,080 Speaker 1: Communication heavy, It's heavy, right degree in communication communicate because 2042 01:47:46,120 --> 01:47:48,479 Speaker 1: you girl, I can talk that now. I know. I 2043 01:47:48,520 --> 01:47:50,200 Speaker 1: gotta I at least gott to bring this up. You know, 2044 01:47:50,640 --> 01:47:54,680 Speaker 1: Vice President Kamala Harris was named what they liked it 2045 01:47:55,360 --> 01:48:02,200 Speaker 1: and so you getting ready let me you know, and 2046 01:48:02,240 --> 01:48:05,720 Speaker 1: she's she's she's a member of I think, I think 2047 01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:09,240 Speaker 1: I remember that you remember of So just talk about 2048 01:48:09,280 --> 01:48:13,920 Speaker 1: the pride of being the sisterhood of A K S 2049 01:48:14,040 --> 01:48:16,439 Speaker 1: and being her being a member of the A k 2050 01:48:16,680 --> 01:48:21,639 Speaker 1: R A k sorority. Absolutely, I think that it's very 2051 01:48:21,680 --> 01:48:24,240 Speaker 1: well known that, right, we pride ourselves on you know, 2052 01:48:24,400 --> 01:48:27,920 Speaker 1: high morals and ethical standards, and so being able to 2053 01:48:27,960 --> 01:48:31,439 Speaker 1: see you know, us represented now um not just in 2054 01:48:31,439 --> 01:48:35,160 Speaker 1: the White House, also making history and also being you know, 2055 01:48:35,320 --> 01:48:39,320 Speaker 1: connected to my sorority of Alpha cupa Alpha. I have 2056 01:48:39,800 --> 01:48:43,360 Speaker 1: so much pride in the fact that like, we did 2057 01:48:43,400 --> 01:48:45,960 Speaker 1: it right. And when I say we did it as 2058 01:48:45,960 --> 01:48:50,080 Speaker 1: as a community, um as you know, Greek organizations all around. 2059 01:48:50,080 --> 01:48:51,840 Speaker 1: She represents all of us. I don't want to, you know, 2060 01:48:51,960 --> 01:48:54,439 Speaker 1: just exclude. She just happens to be you know, an 2061 01:48:54,479 --> 01:48:58,240 Speaker 1: a k A. The first and finest. But I take 2062 01:48:58,320 --> 01:49:01,040 Speaker 1: I take pride on behalf of all of my brothers 2063 01:49:01,040 --> 01:49:04,080 Speaker 1: and sisters. When you know, we see her up there, 2064 01:49:04,200 --> 01:49:07,599 Speaker 1: you know, on the podium or next to the president, knowing, 2065 01:49:07,760 --> 01:49:11,880 Speaker 1: understanding the responsibility that she has, and knowing because her 2066 01:49:11,920 --> 01:49:13,880 Speaker 1: core values and what she stands for and what she 2067 01:49:13,920 --> 01:49:15,640 Speaker 1: believes in, that she's going to make sure that she 2068 01:49:15,680 --> 01:49:18,479 Speaker 1: takes care of us and represents us um you know, 2069 01:49:18,720 --> 01:49:21,040 Speaker 1: to the best of her ability. So there's you know, 2070 01:49:21,120 --> 01:49:25,120 Speaker 1: there was that moment when I cried um when she 2071 01:49:25,200 --> 01:49:29,200 Speaker 1: got elected. But definitely, you know, was was huge and 2072 01:49:29,240 --> 01:49:31,040 Speaker 1: excited when I even first heard that she was on 2073 01:49:31,040 --> 01:49:33,600 Speaker 1: the ballot, and then to see her make history on 2074 01:49:33,800 --> 01:49:37,760 Speaker 1: multiple things, on multiple levels, even you know, me being biracial, 2075 01:49:37,840 --> 01:49:40,120 Speaker 1: seeing a biracial woman up there, like, there's so many 2076 01:49:40,160 --> 01:49:43,519 Speaker 1: things that I connect with her on that I'm you're 2077 01:49:43,520 --> 01:49:48,040 Speaker 1: gonna get the emotional right now, but but just the 2078 01:49:48,160 --> 01:49:50,800 Speaker 1: joy in my heart right my spirit was uplifted and 2079 01:49:50,840 --> 01:49:53,479 Speaker 1: super excited for my future offspring to be able to 2080 01:49:53,520 --> 01:49:56,680 Speaker 1: see her in there, you know, and and what she represents. 2081 01:49:56,720 --> 01:49:58,960 Speaker 1: It means a lot to me and to my community. Well, 2082 01:49:58,960 --> 01:50:02,200 Speaker 1: you know, you're of money making. Money making conversation is 2083 01:50:02,280 --> 01:50:05,600 Speaker 1: business money and that is. But also you know, a 2084 01:50:05,680 --> 01:50:11,479 Speaker 1: weekly uh clubhouse you know, so I don't you know, 2085 01:50:11,600 --> 01:50:15,320 Speaker 1: you know you're willing to have people for free to 2086 01:50:15,520 --> 01:50:18,639 Speaker 1: talk about that and we're wrapping up. Yeah, so I 2087 01:50:18,680 --> 01:50:21,080 Speaker 1: love um. I love clubhouse because it gives me an 2088 01:50:21,080 --> 01:50:24,960 Speaker 1: opportunity to give relationship advice. Weekly on Sundays, I usually 2089 01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:29,320 Speaker 1: hold a forum where I'm giving relationship coaching and giving 2090 01:50:29,360 --> 01:50:31,960 Speaker 1: spicy tips out there. It's not as full hands on 2091 01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:34,760 Speaker 1: as of course my program or my E course that 2092 01:50:34,840 --> 01:50:37,760 Speaker 1: I just rolled out, which is UM six weeks that 2093 01:50:37,800 --> 01:50:41,719 Speaker 1: I'm doing giving the spicy relationship coaching and helping people 2094 01:50:41,840 --> 01:50:45,440 Speaker 1: attract their purpose mate, but it does provide an opportunity 2095 01:50:45,479 --> 01:50:47,000 Speaker 1: for these people to get a taste to fill up 2096 01:50:47,000 --> 01:50:49,600 Speaker 1: their cup, kind of like Sunday Church. When I do 2097 01:50:49,720 --> 01:50:53,439 Speaker 1: my clubhouse events, it gives people an opportunity to ask 2098 01:50:53,439 --> 01:50:56,479 Speaker 1: me questions and just get some clarity around what they 2099 01:50:56,520 --> 01:50:59,400 Speaker 1: may be experiencing. And then I also provide if they 2100 01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:01,360 Speaker 1: need to feel their come up even more so that 2101 01:51:01,439 --> 01:51:04,360 Speaker 1: they have an abundant supporting to others. Also provide my 2102 01:51:04,400 --> 01:51:08,599 Speaker 1: Spicy Life podcast where I'm also having guests come on 2103 01:51:08,960 --> 01:51:11,920 Speaker 1: and speaking to relationships on there as well, but getting 2104 01:51:11,920 --> 01:51:14,439 Speaker 1: to bounce off of other relationship experts, and each week 2105 01:51:14,479 --> 01:51:16,120 Speaker 1: I bring in someone different. So I'll do the same 2106 01:51:16,160 --> 01:51:17,839 Speaker 1: thing with the podcast as they do with the Clubhouse, 2107 01:51:18,040 --> 01:51:20,400 Speaker 1: where all sometimes bring different people on that I get 2108 01:51:20,439 --> 01:51:24,720 Speaker 1: to interview and give relationship advice out. 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