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Speaker 1: This is the Ben and Ashley I Almost Famous Podcast

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Speaker 2: This is the Almost Famous Podcast. We are out here

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Speaker 2: right now in San Francisco, California. What we're doing this

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Speaker 2: weekend is something really exciting. We've brought some of our

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Speaker 2: favorites from Bacheloration, people we know and people we don't know,

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Speaker 2: into one little world, one little bubble, to spend the

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Speaker 2: weekend together.

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Speaker 3: Why.

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Speaker 2: Well, because we want to get to know them better.

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Speaker 2: We're ass gonna be playing golf. There will be a

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Speaker 2: champion crown the best golfer right now in Bachelor Nation.

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Speaker 2: Wells Adams didn't show up, so I'm hoping to take

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Speaker 2: that title. Being nowhere to be seen. They're scared, they're nervous.

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Speaker 2: I'm here, I show up and I play. So we'll

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Speaker 2: give you updates on the golf match. We'll also give

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Speaker 2: you updates on the lives of those who you're most

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Speaker 2: interested in in Bachelor Nation. It's gonna be a great weekend.

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Speaker 2: We can't wait to share it all with you here

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Speaker 2: at the Almost Famous Podcast. And today is one of

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Speaker 2: my personally most anticipated conversations I've had. I'm with Daisy.

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Speaker 2: Hello now, Daisy, We're gonna start this podcast. I've thought

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Speaker 2: about many ways to start this conversation. First off, Hello, Hi,

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Speaker 2: nice to meet you in person.

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Speaker 3: It's nice to meet you in person.

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Speaker 2: I just interviewed Jason Mesnik last week and his wife Molly.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and they said you went over to their house.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, they were awesome, and they said.

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Speaker 2: It was one of the best nights they've had in

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Speaker 2: a long time. It wasn't fun for you, It.

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Speaker 4: Was so fun. We had the best time and they

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Speaker 4: were both just like me, and Charity and Kelsey were

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Speaker 4: there and they were all supportive and their daughters. She's

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Speaker 4: so cute, big.

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Speaker 2: Fan, so it has to be cool to like see

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Speaker 2: an alumni who has a daughter who's also a big

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Speaker 2: fan of the show. And Kelsey were like, what, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: your parents are pretty slight, like they're legendary. And they

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Speaker 2: also said that your name represents your personality. Was that

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Speaker 2: on purpose? You think that Daisy was the name that

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Speaker 2: your parents gave you?

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Speaker 4: Honestly, my dad now he's like, you're welcome for naming

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Speaker 4: you Daisy because of all the days.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but good boy, I haven't thought about that yet.

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Speaker 3: You're like, I've made some money, Dad, thanks for the name.

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Speaker 4: My Dad's like, you're welcome, uh huh, but no. It's funny.

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Speaker 4: When I was actually born, my parents had a deal

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Speaker 4: that my dad would name all the girls and my

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Speaker 4: mom would name all the boys they had, and like,

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Speaker 4: they always agreed on a name. And when I was born,

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Speaker 4: my dad said, she's Daisy, and I was like no,

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Speaker 4: And my dad's such a pushover when it comes to

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Speaker 4: my mom. And my mom was like, no, it's not Daisy.

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Speaker 4: And then a week later she was like, yeah, it's Daisy.

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Speaker 4: She's a daisy.

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Speaker 3: It fits you so well.

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Speaker 2: Now, it's not easy in today's world of the Bachelor

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Speaker 2: to make a name for yourself because and I think

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Speaker 2: one of the only reasons for that is because the

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Speaker 2: a good track record, and you, I think, have kind

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Speaker 2: of came out of not nowhere, but you've really like

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Speaker 2: many other people coming before you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, Like, what do you think's made you most.

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Speaker 2: Relatable, like with the audience because people love you, Daisy,

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Speaker 2: thank you.

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Speaker 4: I don't know. I think the thing I just always

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Speaker 4: It was the first time in my life where I

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Speaker 4: was genuinely like happy, and I hadn't been happy probably

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Speaker 4: He was so sweet about it. He's like, I just don't.

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Speaker 4: He was nervous about me doing it because he was like,

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Speaker 4: I think that's kind of why too, Like it was

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Speaker 4: don't know, it was just I have such a good

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Speaker 4: it was just a life changing thing for me.

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Speaker 2: The relatability, I do think, and that joy that you exude. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but just for clarity, because I've heard you say this

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Speaker 2: before that season of your life, you're in a really

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Speaker 2: Were you in a really good place when you stepped

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Speaker 4: I was in a really good place before I stepped

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Speaker 4: it was a thing where I was like, it's when

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Speaker 4: done it if I knew that it could hurt me

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Speaker 2: It's so crazy that you, in the midst of this

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Speaker 2: what that story is going to look like, no, but

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Speaker 4: I think I'm a huge person. I've always been. Everything

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Speaker 4: things and experience says and I like one it was

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Speaker 4: I remember being Now I'm like backtracking, but I remember

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Speaker 4: feel like I went through something like really life changing

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Speaker 4: all my health stuff and then how everything happened. I

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Speaker 4: got asked to come on The Bachelor. Did the Bachelor,

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Speaker 4: how everything worked out and my life has completely changed.

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Speaker 4: Like looking at my life a year ago, I'm like,

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Speaker 4: so much the same. But I just think you have

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Speaker 4: that's what happened to me. And I think I have

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Speaker 2: What that's I mean that right, there is something one

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Speaker 4: Yeah. And it's like crazy because when you're going through

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Speaker 2: There's an interesting crossover here. One of my favorite like

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Speaker 2: of the Cross, and it's called The Dark Knight of

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Speaker 2: the Soul. Dark Knight of the Soul is like literally

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Speaker 2: feels like it's at rock bottom, like nothing good can

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Speaker 2: and I take from that story is I want to

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Speaker 2: hear and learn from people who just like have like

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Speaker 2: learn from people who have like been through it, who

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Speaker 2: come out the other side with wisdom. And so my

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Speaker 2: question for you in that is what wisdom now have

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Speaker 2: you learned? Obviously you sit in a different place today.

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Speaker 2: It has been a year, right, You're removed. The show

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Speaker 2: even though people know you from it.

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Speaker 3: Your life has moved on from it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, And so what wisdom do you have to share

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Speaker 4: I don't know, it's just like everything's like really just

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Speaker 2: They're asking me questions about myself, like you changed a

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Speaker 2: Yeah, when you got off the show, you and I

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Speaker 4: and so a lot of the things like I've done

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Speaker 4: Maybe I'm working with a brand, but how can I

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 3: So it's like makes it so much more fun.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, it makes it so much more fun. It's like

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Speaker 4: I'm not I'm not just doing things to do things,

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Speaker 4: like I feel like there's a purpose behind it. And

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Speaker 4: it's cool because now I can look back at everything

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Speaker 4: can look at it and find purpose, which is something

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Speaker 4: that I never thought I would find. And it's been

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Speaker 4: that I've been friends with through all my health up

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Speaker 4: since I was younger too, and even all the girlfriends

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Speaker 4: it's just it's changed my life.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, yeah, you're doing it well, you're doing it right.

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Speaker 4: Thank you.

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Speaker 2: You're a world changer. We're glad to have you. Part

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Speaker 2: of this family. We're really happy to have you out

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Speaker 4: Thank you very.

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Speaker 2: It's just really fun to watch, like there's no even

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Speaker 2: after that conversation that we had, there is no like

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Speaker 2: to give other than just like I'm excited to watch

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Speaker 2: you do this thing and you've done it so well

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Speaker 2: and it's been really fun to see. So keep changing

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Speaker 2: the world, keep being you. Thank you and thanks for

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Speaker 2: coming on Almost Famous podcast.

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Speaker 4: Meant thanks for having me.

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