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Speaker 1: Patriots with another resounding victory today, this time over the
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Speaker 1: we start to dissect what was a much closer game
Speaker 1: than I think it should have been throughout a good
Speaker 1: portion of it, certainly through the first half, and yet
Speaker 1: it doesn't look close at all on the go way
Speaker 1: you thought it would get. But yeah, I would agree
Speaker 1: it did not get tay they that a lot of
Speaker 1: people felt. So just my initial takeaway before we get
Speaker 1: to the good, the bad and the training room, is
Speaker 1: that Mac Jones for the first half of the day,
Speaker 1: even though he ended up throwing for a ton of
Speaker 1: yards and had some really really nice throws, including ah,
Speaker 1: you know, back to backs to Jacoby Myers there in
Speaker 1: the second quarter, Uh, did not look very sharp today
Speaker 1: and it looked like maybe that cold weather game was
Speaker 1: actually happening to Mac Jones again. The final thirty six
Speaker 1: thirteen and a ton of yards in the air wouldn't
Speaker 1: speak to it. But um, once again the Patriots overcoming
Speaker 1: with with a good defensive performance and really a power
Speaker 1: offense that that got things done when they needed to. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I thought the offense was really good today. Yeah. Really
Speaker 1: you thought Mac Jones was good today? No, I didn't
Speaker 1: necessarily disagree with your assessment, but I thought overall, the
Speaker 1: offense I thought was was really good. I thought they
Speaker 1: moved the ball every pretty much between the twenties. Between
Speaker 1: the twenties, I thought a good Yeah. I mean, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna start just with the with the run defense, which
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just it's glaring. Of course, It's like
Speaker 1: I try to come in here with a like a
Speaker 1: positive attitude. Yeah, you know, I overlooked the fact that
Speaker 1: they wanted two hundred yard rushers because what do I
Speaker 1: always tell you? I know, well, I think that was
Speaker 1: just doesn't matter for me. That's the most surprising part
Speaker 1: of the game. And I I do I do give
Speaker 1: credit to h to the Patriots passing offense, because you know,
Speaker 1: I think the rushing offense was largely ineffective early in
Speaker 1: the game, and they were able to find some holes
Speaker 1: in the zones. I don't think the red zone execution
Speaker 1: was particularly great. I don't think their third down execution
Speaker 1: particularly great. But I think the offense did enough. They
Speaker 1: didn't turn the ball over. I think that was a
Speaker 1: big key today. Had you know Mac Jones store interception
Speaker 1: coughed up a fumble something like that, I think it
Speaker 1: might have closed the gap. But that was one of
Speaker 1: those days where the fact that you protected the football
Speaker 1: was the difference. Yeah, and the plus three in the turnovers,
Speaker 1: and you know, the rushing performance by Tennessee, you know
Speaker 1: against the Patriots defense was disappointing. And I thought, really
Speaker 1: the missed extra point, the missfield goal, uh, and then
Speaker 1: the three meaningful turnovers. I know they got one at
Speaker 1: the end where with Tavai which we were running down
Speaker 1: here when it happened. But I didn't, I know, because
Speaker 1: if I had gone to Bruce's locker, I might have
Speaker 1: got yelled at. Yeah. That's why I worked at Infoye Pobbly. Um.
Speaker 1: So I think those elements, um, you know, stepped up
Speaker 1: and offset some of the problems that they had during
Speaker 1: the game against the run, which was just surprising. I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't think that that was, you know, really
Speaker 1: in the cards today to see you know, those those
Speaker 1: big breakdowns with a huge gain, I mean that that
Speaker 1: that sixty one yard or whatever it was, that's just,
Speaker 1: you know, it's not acceptable. But overall, hey, six straight
Speaker 1: wins excellent, Kendrick Bourne continues to impress, and uh, it's
Speaker 1: it's it's a good win. You got to you gotta
Speaker 1: take it at this point of the year. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: would agree with Mike. I think there were more positives. Uh,
Speaker 1: you know, there was definitely some things. It wasn't perfect
Speaker 1: out there today. This was not a great all around effort.
Speaker 1: But offensively, I thought they were really good. Um, whatever
Speaker 1: they were dialing up in the passing game was working
Speaker 1: guys wide open in soft zones. I thought Jacoby Myers
Speaker 1: was was really effective. I thought you got the two
Speaker 1: exceptional touchdowns from Kendrick Bourne, and and yeah, I agree Hardy.
Speaker 1: I don't think Mac was as razor sharp as I've
Speaker 1: seen them. I thought even some of the completions looked
Speaker 1: like they were, you know, just kind of just there
Speaker 1: and getting guys hit like as soon as they caught
Speaker 1: the ball, because I thought the timing was a little
Speaker 1: off but overall, you know, you racked up close to
Speaker 1: four hundred yards of offense. I think they only punted
Speaker 1: once all day. Um, you know, this is a pretty
Speaker 1: and they didn't get anything out of the running games,
Speaker 1: So this was all in the passing games. That was
Speaker 1: kind of to my point. And it was something that
Speaker 1: Jim Louth had pointed out too when I was watching
Speaker 1: the game with him when it was sixteen thirteen and
Speaker 1: a half. He said, the Pats haven't punted, and they
Speaker 1: haven't turned the ball over and have got all these
Speaker 1: yards and there are up three. What's what's what's going on? Yeah?
Speaker 1: The only thing is the Titans hadn't punted and had
Speaker 1: all those yards and missed a field goal, missed an
Speaker 1: extra point, and fumbled inside the thirty. Like that's why
Speaker 1: you had the lead? Yeah, I And I think a
Speaker 1: lot of it stems from, like, you know, hiccups after
Speaker 1: big plays, after the big run, the fumble at the
Speaker 1: end of it from Tennessee. Yeah, you know, there were
Speaker 1: moments like that that just swung your way and and
Speaker 1: and and again. We talked about this a little bit
Speaker 1: in the pregame. You know, try and capitalize on those mistakes.
Speaker 1: And some of the mistakes were just glaring. Others were
Speaker 1: you know, they were put into position where they, you know,
Speaker 1: they had to, I think, maybe try and make some
Speaker 1: plays that they really didn't want to. They were forced
Speaker 1: into some you know, third and long and fourth and
Speaker 1: long situations, and you know the defense stepped up in those. So,
Speaker 1: you know, I would give credit to the defense first,
Speaker 1: and say the Patriots offense, while it started slow and
Speaker 1: they stalled out, as you said, certainly found a way
Speaker 1: to get into the end zone at the end. You
Speaker 1: mentioned the Born touchdowns, the one where he tiptoed down
Speaker 1: the sideline. I don't know how he stayed in. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I do know. It's you know, I think whoever was
Speaker 1: the corner that came over and tried to push him
Speaker 1: out thought that all I have to do is topple him.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you played defense in that league,
Speaker 1: and I understand how those things happened because I wouldn't
Speaker 1: touch him there either, because they just look at him.
Speaker 1: He looked he looked like he was getting ready to
Speaker 1: step out of bounds. And you can't risk, all right,
Speaker 1: a fifteen yard penalty that close to me if you
Speaker 1: and if you launch yourself to make sure that you
Speaker 1: hit him and he happens to step out on his own,
Speaker 1: you're getting flagged. Yeah, I mean it's as simple as that.
Speaker 1: So I don't like I really, I don't know how
Speaker 1: they do it. I don't know how they they avoid
Speaker 1: those penalties as often as they do, because they certainly
Speaker 1: look like they're trying to call penalties. Yeah, that's half
Speaker 1: the game. It looks like they're trying to call a
Speaker 1: penalty on something. Let's get to our good, the bad
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Speaker 1: it's time for the goody goodeper pretty good, the bad.
Speaker 1: If you were in my toilet ball, I wouldn't bother
Speaker 1: flushing and the training room. You you want a backrupt
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Speaker 1: to BackRub. I want the thea gun. I don't like massages,
Speaker 1: but I love the theragun. Is that weird? Does that
Speaker 1: make me weird? No? Not just I wanted to rub
Speaker 1: it on me and doing all that stuff. Just give
Speaker 1: me the theorogun. You know who got himself a thea gun?
Speaker 1: Who who Morrel Marine got up at the house last night.
Speaker 1: Oh Marine corps showed up at himself. What what areas
Speaker 1: are you working on? I worked them all, baby, it
Speaker 1: was great. How are the glutes? Glutes are fantastic, you know,
Speaker 1: whatever these muscles are, they're great. All over here growing everything.
Speaker 1: Nobody can see me. Everything good. I need a little
Speaker 1: shoulder work myself actually when I get home tonight. But
Speaker 1: that in the moment. Let's start with a good for
Speaker 1: the Patriots. Mike did so you lead us off. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with just Kendrick Bourne. I'll keep it
Speaker 1: going with him. He continues to come on here and uh,
Speaker 1: you know, excellent catch there on the first touchdown. I
Speaker 1: mean it was ridiculous. That was a ridiculously good catch
Speaker 1: and a good, real good player covering him too and
Speaker 1: bired and uh you know, Mac I thought put it
Speaker 1: out there for him, had a guy coming in his face,
Speaker 1: so he had to have a little bit touch on
Speaker 1: it too. Um, alright, nice spot. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: Paul disagrees on that. No, no, no, no, you're working
Speaker 1: blue again. I can't like that. What do you mean nothing,
Speaker 1: I'll get you off. It's double on time. I don't
Speaker 1: even I can't even keep track of um, but but
Speaker 1: I think born Um, like you guys said, on that
Speaker 1: run down the sideline, so it just was like he's
Speaker 1: out of bounce right, he's wait, you got you gotta
Speaker 1: put you and then he's in. Like it was just
Speaker 1: I went through a whole process there mentally being like,
Speaker 1: I think it's just gonna be a medium gain and
Speaker 1: then credit to him to keep going so he keeps
Speaker 1: showing up. Then it's it's just what the passing game needs. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and that was a huge play. Was a third and five,
Speaker 1: I think too. And if they don't get that there
Speaker 1: and they're forced to kick another field goal or even
Speaker 1: if they were in field goal range, I'm not even sure,
Speaker 1: but that that changed the complexion that gives them the
Speaker 1: you know that that insurance touchdown. So yeah, I agree
Speaker 1: with Kendrick Bourn one hundred percent. I'm gonna stick with
Speaker 1: the receivers and go to Jacobe Myers, who I thought
Speaker 1: was really good, especially in the first half. He had
Speaker 1: the one drop um and that one was one that
Speaker 1: Mike and I kind of put on Mac for kind
Speaker 1: of hanging him out to dry a little bit and
Speaker 1: having the ball weight he was waiting on. It was
Speaker 1: wide open and he had to wait a little bit
Speaker 1: longer and took a hit. But but overall, myers, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, five catches ninety eight yards, a couple of
Speaker 1: big plays thirty eight yard or for him, not to think,
Speaker 1: at least one other over twenty yards. So I thought
Speaker 1: he was a pretty pretty productive again, which is good
Speaker 1: because I had mentioned in the pregame show that I
Speaker 1: felt like he had sort of gone into a little
Speaker 1: bit of a lull. It was nice to see him
Speaker 1: break out of that and more resemble the guy we
Speaker 1: saw the first ten weeks or so. I probably had
Speaker 1: a lot to do with his father's saying hello to
Speaker 1: Deuce in the hallway this morning. That was instrumental. I think.
Speaker 1: I think it's all about, you know, the karmen and
Speaker 1: the chi and everything surrounding gave. I gave him my
Speaker 1: key to the game too. I was just when the trenches,
Speaker 1: that's what it's going to be. Just let everybody know
Speaker 1: we had we had a tough keys to the games. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't kind of right. Didn't really materialized so much.
Speaker 1: I don't even know my worst I don't feel bad
Speaker 1: about it. I admires down also, Paul, the back to
Speaker 1: back receptions of twenty and twenty two yards or just huge.
Speaker 1: It just it showed early on he's a weapon. You
Speaker 1: were going to have to account for him all day, right,
Speaker 1: and that changes, you know, regardless of what the Titans
Speaker 1: defense was thinking. That either solidifies their notion that they're
Speaker 1: going to have to attention to him or it's like,
Speaker 1: oh boy, he might be the guy today. So that
Speaker 1: was good. I have John hu Smith on my good
Speaker 1: list for today. There was the early run, the only
Speaker 1: run of the day that he had, but he picked
Speaker 1: up nine yards on that. He had another catch on
Speaker 1: that same drive. I believe in terms of receiving he
Speaker 1: only had three catches, but he went for forty nine
Speaker 1: yards on those three. Yeah, and I thought he was
Speaker 1: a real weapon today. Three impactful plays, you know, in
Speaker 1: receptions I would agree. I would agree with that one too. Wow,
Speaker 1: we're all on the way having a littlekumbayam. We're all
Speaker 1: in agreeance so far on our good list. Who else
Speaker 1: he got their reduce? I'm gonna put Mac on there too.
Speaker 1: Um and and I just think it was a solid,
Speaker 1: solid game for him. Yeah, yeah, I'm giving you the
Speaker 1: duce s Grimmace. Yeah, I wrote solid productive, solid, solid
Speaker 1: productive day. I mean it's a second you know, career,
Speaker 1: three hundred yard game. Just there was nothing going on
Speaker 1: on the ground, and I thought between the twenties he
Speaker 1: had some downfield passes, he found some guys that were
Speaker 1: open um. I mean, twenty three to thirty two, three
Speaker 1: ten two tds, no interceptions, took a couple of sacks,
Speaker 1: but it's almost not turn the ball over and not
Speaker 1: making one of those game changing mistakes that I felt like,
Speaker 1: you know, Tennessee hanging around, hanging around, needed the Patriots
Speaker 1: to kind of give him something. The Patriots never did
Speaker 1: give them anything. And I credit that to Mac the
Speaker 1: way he led the offense and you know, delivered downfield passing.
Speaker 1: I mean it's it's three hundred yard yard day. This
Speaker 1: doesn't happen all the time with him. So look, he
Speaker 1: was twenty three to thirty two for three, two touchdowns
Speaker 1: and as he said, no picks. So I can't put
Speaker 1: him on the bad list, and I wouldn't. I would
Speaker 1: keep him off the good list today though, because he
Speaker 1: threw a couple of hospital balls. He was he was
Speaker 1: off on his timing on a couple of those throws.
Speaker 1: There was the one screen where I don't know what
Speaker 1: he did that he threw it at the feet of
Speaker 1: and that was really close. I'm surprised they didn't take
Speaker 1: a look at that. Rabel didn't ask me. That was
Speaker 1: really close to being a backward pass. And then the
Speaker 1: very next snap he threw one into a linebacker's hands,
Speaker 1: dropped it. I mean, those were bad plays. And to
Speaker 1: Mike's point, that's what Tennessee needed to win the game.
Speaker 1: Is they needed some breaks and they didn't get any
Speaker 1: of them, and mostly because they didn't take advantage of
Speaker 1: the opportunities they had. He had a wide open Hunter
Speaker 1: Henry or his man beat by three or four steps,
Speaker 1: and he threw it three yards out in front of him.
Speaker 1: You gotta know your receiver. You gotta know it's Hunter Henry,
Speaker 1: and he doesn't have the speed you're you can drop
Speaker 1: it in, he said. I there were too many of
Speaker 1: those plays. I can't put him on the good list today.
Speaker 1: I will not. I do not co sign in any way.
Speaker 1: It's not that I'm okay with it. If you want
Speaker 1: him on there, I don't want him on there. That's fair.
Speaker 1: You really dissect those nine in completions very well, and
Speaker 1: I agree with you. Oh you know what, he was
Speaker 1: lights out. He's the reason. He's the reason they want it.
Speaker 1: Very snarky. No, he's the reason they want dude, you're right.
Speaker 1: You convinced me otherwise, I'll hang up and listen. No,
Speaker 1: he was good. You drive home and listen to my response.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna get my popcorn. I love not being involved. Yeah,
Speaker 1: he wasn't good today. He didn't thought he was good.
Speaker 1: He was not. He wasn't good. I wag in Yeah,
Speaker 1: with the tide breaking vote, Yeah, I think it was good.
Speaker 1: I'd be more onduce side. I totally recognize all of
Speaker 1: the place. It's out. You're gonna get your cover. Tampa
Speaker 1: Bay just scored about a minute left. I'm going to
Speaker 1: guess that they probably didn't want him to score that
Speaker 1: touchdown though that extends the game. Oh there's only twenty
Speaker 1: seconds left. Never mind. I would I would venture more
Speaker 1: on Mike's side only, And I think that he definitely
Speaker 1: had some bad throws in this game, probably more than
Speaker 1: we've normally seen from him. And I'm not talking about
Speaker 1: nineteen completions, So you can save your snark. I did
Speaker 1: think that there were a handful of passes that were
Speaker 1: completed today that weren't very good throws. In addition to
Speaker 1: missing the Hunter Henry miss was huge. That wasn't as
Speaker 1: easy a throw as you can get. Now. That negated
Speaker 1: the throw that Tannehill missed to Chester Rogers on the
Speaker 1: previous possession, because I felt like that that's a throw
Speaker 1: that probably should have been completed too. But I have
Speaker 1: to give mac Jones. If I'm going to put them
Speaker 1: on one side or the other, I'm gonna put them
Speaker 1: on the good list, because I just feel like they
Speaker 1: didn't have any thing going offensively other than him, you know,
Speaker 1: other than the passing game, and I thought he consistently
Speaker 1: found open guys. Now, some of those guys were wide open,
Speaker 1: but I mean that part of it is is getting
Speaker 1: the ball. The Texans had opportunities to do that and
Speaker 1: tanne Hill couldn't take advantage of them. And I think,
Speaker 1: I mean part of that is, you know, tann Hill
Speaker 1: didn't have anybody to throw to. I get that, but
Speaker 1: I just felt like, with no running game at all,
Speaker 1: he was able to rack up a lot of yards
Speaker 1: today and I have to give him credit for that. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I just I don't see him as as going out
Speaker 1: there and doing anything beyond what you know and an
Speaker 1: average to above average quarterback would give you on that
Speaker 1: day under those circumstances. Well, yeah, I mean I didn't
Speaker 1: say it was like a Hall of Fame worthy performance, right,
Speaker 1: I just put him on we're talking about the standout
Speaker 1: good just one of them on the good list. Okay,
Speaker 1: well he doesn't. He doesn't belong on either list. Three.
Speaker 1: You can look at the stats. You can tell me
Speaker 1: the stats all you want. If at some point you
Speaker 1: have to look back and say, wow, those stats don't
Speaker 1: watch it don't match the game I just watched. And
Speaker 1: that's what today I'll tell you with what today. The
Speaker 1: score does not match the game. The game was a
Speaker 1: lot closer than thirty six or thirteen will indicate, has
Speaker 1: no doubt about that. And I would say mac Jones
Speaker 1: did not have a three hundred from from what I saw,
Speaker 1: it didn't look like a three hundred ten yard two
Speaker 1: touchdown note picks passing day. It didn't look like it
Speaker 1: didn't feel like it watching the game. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I would agree with you, but to an extent, I'm
Speaker 1: like the two touchdowns, for example, were both unbelievable plays
Speaker 1: by Kendrick Bourne. Yes, not unbelievable passes by Mac Jones.
Speaker 1: Well tell Deuce. I thought the first one was pretty good.
Speaker 1: I thought the first one he sure he had a
Speaker 1: short and that's how Bayard got his hand in there.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was an unbelievable cat. I thought
Speaker 1: that was one of the best catches that I've seen
Speaker 1: the boorn catch. To have the guy's arm in the middle,
Speaker 1: it kind of reminded me of the Tyree thing, only
Speaker 1: not on the helmet, like Rodney's arm was in like
Speaker 1: that should that should not be caught. That was an
Speaker 1: unbelievable play. Very good. All right, who you got there? Paul?
Speaker 1: My up next? Yeah? Oh, just to reiterate, I agree
Speaker 1: with Deuce. I think I think Max should have been
Speaker 1: on the good List. Why don't you two do the show?
Speaker 1: I mean, it's okay, it's all right, we'll move on.
Speaker 1: I was, I am. I am going to put it.
Speaker 1: I don't think there was a tremendous amount that went
Speaker 1: right today defensively, but I'm gonna put Kyle van Noy
Speaker 1: on the list, on the good list for a handful
Speaker 1: of past deflections today. Just you know, getting up and
Speaker 1: knocking one down, had another one that he had one
Speaker 1: underneath that he almost picked off. He was involved. Now,
Speaker 1: I think the ball bounced off the guy's hands and
Speaker 1: then he knocked it away in the end zone. But
Speaker 1: prior to the pick for J. C. Jackson, But I
Speaker 1: thought Van Noy he left the game really briefly, came
Speaker 1: back and I thought he made some place. So I
Speaker 1: had him on my good list. I thought I thought
Speaker 1: he was the one who got the hand on it
Speaker 1: on the JC Jackson picked. That was mccording But that
Speaker 1: was that was a very good game once again for
Speaker 1: Kyle van Noy. We'll see if he gets drug tested
Speaker 1: again as he did after the every time he plays.
Speaker 1: The last time, the last time, he had a good game.
Speaker 1: What's the problem, Paul? We had Fred and I had
Speaker 1: to think about, Oh now, we can get to that
Speaker 1: later because someone else said, you know, how can they
Speaker 1: do that? Isn't it obvious? I said, I do think
Speaker 1: it's random. I don't think it has anything. It doesn't
Speaker 1: have anything to do with the performance. Okay now, and
Speaker 1: the insinuation was that it did, yes, and now it's
Speaker 1: revisionist history. But okay, so I agree with you all right,
Speaker 1: all right, good, um, let's put him on there. Nick Folk. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean he had the one miss from long range,
Speaker 1: but he came back and he made a fifty two
Speaker 1: yard or I mean, and if you don't believe me,
Speaker 1: maybe you'll believe Christopher Gasper, who is a journalist with
Speaker 1: a capital J Boston Globe. What this is. This is
Speaker 1: what he tweeted out half an hour ago. One area
Speaker 1: that this team definitely feels a little two thousand and
Speaker 1: one ish is with the field goal kicker being one
Speaker 1: of the team's best players. Folk is a weapon, and
Speaker 1: he might be the and he might be the best
Speaker 1: player on the team team relative to his position. He's
Speaker 1: up there with Judan and J. C. Jackson. That's I mean,
Speaker 1: you just look at I don't understand what that means,
Speaker 1: the best player on his team relative to his position
Speaker 1: if you compare how he plays his position to others
Speaker 1: around the league. Obviously, because there's only one, you know,
Speaker 1: field goal kicker. Yeah, I mean yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think he's been absolutely unbelievable, unbelievable, and he's been money.
Speaker 1: I mean, you just watch the Titans guys when they
Speaker 1: were missing the extra points and the field goals and
Speaker 1: just what that does to the psychology of your team.
Speaker 1: You take it for granted, Well, you shouldn't take it
Speaker 1: for granted for the Patriots. Oh, I mean I actually
Speaker 1: miss spoke. You should take it for granted if your Patriots,
Speaker 1: because that's what happens, they miss them all. Folk was
Speaker 1: five field goal kickers, are now fourteen for twenty three
Speaker 1: unfield goals against the Patriots. That's insane. Meanwhile, Folk five
Speaker 1: of six today with the long of fifty two yards,
Speaker 1: and he was three for three on his extra points,
Speaker 1: responsible for half the points the Patriots put up today
Speaker 1: in the thirty six and until the very end of
Speaker 1: the game they needed them all. Yeah, didn't we have
Speaker 1: somebody in the pregame who said that Folk was going
Speaker 1: to kick up fifty two yard or to seal things
Speaker 1: up when they when the Pats were up like twenty
Speaker 1: four thirteen. Yeah, didn't somebody say something to that? God
Speaker 1: me now for your pre reading, all right, boss man
Speaker 1: Fred Kirsch joining us on the Patriots postgame presented by
Speaker 1: a cyber reason. I Fred, Hello, Hardy, how are we good? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Really good? You look like you're ready to hatch one
Speaker 1: on me. What do you got something to take a shot.
Speaker 1: He always comes in with an ulterior motive. Yeah, he's
Speaker 1: got something to say. Oh and I'm listening to you guys,
Speaker 1: Mac Jones. Good list, bad list, no list, um overall,
Speaker 1: I'd put him on the good list. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: he had some You have three choices. You can go good, bad,
Speaker 1: or not on either one. Yeah. I put him on
Speaker 1: the good list because they needed him to make some
Speaker 1: throws and he did because they couldn't run the ball.
Speaker 1: That's what I said. The offense was all on the
Speaker 1: passing game. Yeah. Now I don't think he made any
Speaker 1: exceptional throws, but he had three ten yards passing and
Speaker 1: two touchdowns. Did you turn the ball over? Right? That's
Speaker 1: a good list. It's a good list. I think it's
Speaker 1: that angle you guys watch from. I don't think you're
Speaker 1: seeing you were correct on that, okay, because if I
Speaker 1: do often get miss misled. If not him, who do
Speaker 1: you put from offense on the good list? Pubers? Kendrick Bourne?
Speaker 1: Somebody got him the ball? Yeah, but I mean those
Speaker 1: plays were unbelieved born and was ken Kendrick Bourne's touchdowns
Speaker 1: result of the great path that was thrown or him
Speaker 1: doing incredible things. That three yard flip that he turns
Speaker 1: out for forty one yards right on the money, or
Speaker 1: allowed him to turn up field right on the money.
Speaker 1: Morning was opened by six yards listen by did I
Speaker 1: have a guy in the zip code? By listen tighter
Speaker 1: than last week against by Mac Jones rookie standards, that
Speaker 1: was a good day for him. We're not doing it
Speaker 1: by Mac Jones. Rookie standards are in week twelve. I
Speaker 1: mean this, this is what happens when we agree this
Speaker 1: is not He eventually makes me. I mean, listen, he
Speaker 1: had some errand throws um, but like Paul said, he
Speaker 1: took care of the ball. I'm I'm with what Mac
Speaker 1: did today, all right? So what else we got? We
Speaker 1: fought the good fun I mean I I like Paul said,
Speaker 1: I think some of the defense stuff, I all those
Speaker 1: guys are hopping down today. And as much as I
Speaker 1: want to say Jude on for you know the sacks,
Speaker 1: you know, said a couple of penalties. I just thought
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys were up and down. I
Speaker 1: think I'm pretty good with with the good list. I
Speaker 1: thought there were some solid performances, but nobody else jumping
Speaker 1: out to me that I need to put on the
Speaker 1: just individual plays like I had Bolden, you know, for
Speaker 1: his production on the screens. Uh catches four catches fifty
Speaker 1: four yards and the first one was huge to set
Speaker 1: up the first touchdown, which uh, you know he had
Speaker 1: a short field day. You had to score a touchdown
Speaker 1: on that drive third and ten. He picks it up
Speaker 1: with the screen. But yeah, I mean it's just um,
Speaker 1: you know, it's like I thought the forced fumble that
Speaker 1: jac Jackson had on the long run by Foreman was
Speaker 1: an enormous play Bolden, it's an enormous played by Jay C. Jackson.
Speaker 1: I don't know, no great recovery by Mills on the
Speaker 1: sideline to make sure he stayed in bound. Bolden may
Speaker 1: have had one game this year where he was you
Speaker 1: know there, you know, best weapon, you know what, you
Speaker 1: know that you could make an argument for. I don't
Speaker 1: think he will be that in any given week. But
Speaker 1: consistently he's a guy who's going to give you plays.
Speaker 1: He's definitely softened the blow of the loss of life. Yeah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it seems like he's strictly third down guy like White.
Speaker 1: They might mix in a little bit here and there,
Speaker 1: but but Bolden it seems like they save him for
Speaker 1: those key moments. Yeah, any other goods you want to
Speaker 1: get to, guys, just let me say folk of course, right,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, I just like I said, individual plays. I
Speaker 1: thought Jalen Mills had a great play on a third down,
Speaker 1: a key third down when the Titans got the ball
Speaker 1: with a chance to take the lead at the start
Speaker 1: of the second half. And I was a terrible throw
Speaker 1: by Tanny Hill, but he makes a nice pass deflection
Speaker 1: to knock that away. And I thought mccordy's playing the
Speaker 1: end zone. End of the game. Yeah, McCody knocking that ball.
Speaker 1: And on the fourth down if they score a touchdown there,
Speaker 1: it's twenty six, twenty the fourth quarter, it's game on.
Speaker 1: There was a remark made in the booth about jac Jackson.
Speaker 1: Does anyone have any Is there anyone in the league
Speaker 1: who has more easy interceptions this year than jac Jackson?
Speaker 1: And the answer is probably no. But also still have
Speaker 1: to come down with them. And you know, we said
Speaker 1: it in the in the in the game, I don't know,
Speaker 1: so I said, he has good hands, He has good hands,
Speaker 1: you know, you still got to come down with them.
Speaker 1: And that one today. Look, it's deflected. It's it's it's
Speaker 1: not an absolute layup, but you know he's there and
Speaker 1: he makes the play. I gotta imagine anyone who's leading
Speaker 1: the league and interceptions in any year has some easy ones.
Speaker 1: They're not all seven easy ones. They're not all of mate. No,
Speaker 1: he's had some on the side. Oh no, oh, let
Speaker 1: us go to Jacoby Myers here with the thirty six
Speaker 1: thirteen win over the Titans today. Jacoby, we were just
Speaker 1: singing your praises. What a great game today. Congratulations. I
Speaker 1: appreciate that. Thank you. Hey, Jacoby saw your dad before
Speaker 1: the game. Game a little fist bump. He came up
Speaker 1: and said, hello, So I'm sure he enjoyed the performance today.
Speaker 1: That's why you guys had a great game. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think so. Yeah, your jersey on it seemed like, of
Speaker 1: course is that so, you know, just a big, big
Speaker 1: game for you today. How did the field to just
Speaker 1: get out there? You guys really had it seemed like
Speaker 1: you had to take to the air a little bit
Speaker 1: to move the ball. Man, It felt it was it
Speaker 1: was a fun game. You know, everybody all o receive commas,
Speaker 1: just went out there and play the hearts out to
Speaker 1: day and it was definitely. I was definitely proud to
Speaker 1: be part of group today. So the fact that we
Speaker 1: just all fought together and got the dub that was
Speaker 1: just a real exciting game. Were you guys a little
Speaker 1: bit surprised that the running game, which has been such
Speaker 1: a big part of the offense to Kobe the last
Speaker 1: few weeks, you know, it was a little bit slow
Speaker 1: getting going today, and you guys had a lot more
Speaker 1: of the burden, like Mike said, on your shoulders. What
Speaker 1: allowed you to sort of get things gone with some
Speaker 1: of the big players. I think he had consecutive twenty
Speaker 1: plush yard catches in the first half. What allowed you
Speaker 1: guys to get going Just the mentality of the room.
Speaker 1: You know, we all feel like we can make any
Speaker 1: play at any time, So we just gotta be ready
Speaker 1: for when our number is called. And if you see
Speaker 1: all the guys out there, whenever they get a chance
Speaker 1: to go out there making play, they out there giving
Speaker 1: maximum effort, making tough catches. I mean, you've seen Nail,
Speaker 1: You've seen kb you know what I mean. So whatever
Speaker 1: they need us to do, we just try to do
Speaker 1: our best to do that. Paul just mentioned those back
Speaker 1: to back receptions of twenty twenty two yards. Are you
Speaker 1: do you find yourself like in a zone within the
Speaker 1: zone at that moment in the game where you think,
Speaker 1: you know what, if you just give me the ball
Speaker 1: two more times, we're gonna make it into the end zone. Man,
Speaker 1: It's just a situation like that. You're just trying to
Speaker 1: whatever come your way. You want to do the best
Speaker 1: with it, you know, And I mean I like to
Speaker 1: It sucks that the run game wasn't working because I
Speaker 1: feel like that could have been a total dominant performance
Speaker 1: by the offense. But like I said, whenever we get
Speaker 1: a chance to make them plays, you definitely got to
Speaker 1: lock in a little bit more in and leave no
Speaker 1: food on the table. Chico, I just want to ask
Speaker 1: you about Kendrick. I mean, two big touchdowns from him today.
Speaker 1: You know, for you kind of being the veteran guy,
Speaker 1: he came in this spring, new guy, new free agent,
Speaker 1: learning the system. I know, you know you helped them
Speaker 1: probably as much as you could. What's it like for you,
Speaker 1: as a veteran of this system to see another receiver
Speaker 1: kind of coming here and for it all to really
Speaker 1: start clicking for him? Man, I'm so happy because, like
Speaker 1: you said, I've been here every step of the way
Speaker 1: since you got here, and just seeing how he's just
Speaker 1: rejecting forward and just getting better every day. Like these plays.
Speaker 1: It plays i've seen him making practice, so now that
Speaker 1: it's all clicking for him, it definitely made me happy.
Speaker 1: You know, we all wanted to make great play at Lei,
Speaker 1: nikkille Gunner, all of us. Just seeing KB come in
Speaker 1: and what he's been through when he first got here
Speaker 1: and where he's at now, man and definitely make you
Speaker 1: proud of him. Freddy, do you have something? No, just hey,
Speaker 1: how you doing? Tooby just wants to say hi, saying hey,
Speaker 1: I did want to ask before I let you go, Jacobe.
Speaker 1: Mike had just mentioned that second touchdown for for Kendrick Bourne.
Speaker 1: You had a big play on that without really doing
Speaker 1: a tremendous amount, but you had a chance to make
Speaker 1: a block facing back towards your goal line, and it
Speaker 1: looked to me like you recognized it right away through
Speaker 1: your hands up in the air and just basically set
Speaker 1: a screen. Is that? What is that? How you guys
Speaker 1: are taught on that to avoid that hit back going
Speaker 1: towards your end of the field. Oh yeah, definitely they
Speaker 1: changed that rule I think last year probably where you
Speaker 1: can't go back and fortunately hit the guys. It's going
Speaker 1: back to your line, screamers. So I was just trying
Speaker 1: to make the smart play. I knew KP typoul dudes,
Speaker 1: you get him some space and he didn't make some
Speaker 1: magic sake though. That's all I was trying to just
Speaker 1: get them free. Yeah, big play, Yeah it was, and
Speaker 1: it all culminated in nice victory for you guys today.
Speaker 1: So congratulations on the win, and we appreciate you taking
Speaker 1: the time, Jacoby. Thank you, appreciate your shows. All right,
Speaker 1: we'll see it, Jacoby Myers, and we thank Microsoft for
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Speaker 1: wanted to ask him, but we had already talked about
Speaker 1: Born a little bit. Didn't want to talk about too
Speaker 1: many other players. I just want to make sure that
Speaker 1: they're being nice to the kicker. You know, I feel
Speaker 1: like sometimes the kicker hasn't really thought of as being
Speaker 1: like one of the players. I just wanted to say
Speaker 1: he'd being nice to Nick. I mean, he's he's doing
Speaker 1: a good job this year. They ought to carry his
Speaker 1: equipment everywhere he goes. I'm telling I mean, but they
Speaker 1: I mean the way the way the way kickers get
Speaker 1: talked about outside of the room, With the exception maybe
Speaker 1: of Vinetary Vinetarry, you know, it seemed like a football player.
Speaker 1: Every other kicker in the league, it seems like it's like,
Speaker 1: well I would say that, you know, the three main kickers,
Speaker 1: you know, Folk, Vinetarry, and Gaskowski seemed to be more
Speaker 1: than kickers on this team. You know, like they always
Speaker 1: were willing to make tackles if needed. They just on
Speaker 1: this team, they seem to be more part of being
Speaker 1: a football player than maybe on some other teams. I
Speaker 1: was just gonna say. I heard Belichick this week. They
Speaker 1: was asked about Folk talking about you know, I've learned
Speaker 1: things about the game from Nick that I never knew
Speaker 1: I like before, And I mean it just thinks like
Speaker 1: I don't think of Nick Folk in the in the
Speaker 1: Gastowski Vinitary category. In terms of making like I think
Speaker 1: if he was the last guy back, you'd be like, Bill,
Speaker 1: he stuck up my beer, let me take let me
Speaker 1: take it. Um that he doesn't have to kick. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, however, it is they seem more part of
Speaker 1: the players than a lot of other teams. I hope,
Speaker 1: so less standoffish, you know. Uh, I love this. Um
Speaker 1: we got for once, Yeah, for once, we got the
Speaker 1: play renterview done before we started bad, which was not
Speaker 1: that Jos was in any danger of being I thought
Speaker 1: They're gonna have the run defense on the line, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh, oh, literally, the whole run deepen, the
Speaker 1: entire front seven now joining us via conference call. So
Speaker 1: I don't think we did well. Should I kick it
Speaker 1: off with the bad then and just stay run defense?
Speaker 1: And uh, you know we're talking to Paul walking down
Speaker 1: and be like this doesn't feel like one of those
Speaker 1: things where hey, we're just gonna let them run all
Speaker 1: over us, and then that way we know Ryan Tannell
Speaker 1: isn't going to do anything. Um. I think it was
Speaker 1: just the big plays to the big plays in the
Speaker 1: run game that that I mean, that's sixty one yard
Speaker 1: or that I mentioned. Um, it's just it's surprising. I mean,
Speaker 1: if they've been really controlling the line of scrimmage, I
Speaker 1: thought they were getting pushed around a little bit, that
Speaker 1: guys were getting blocked on the second level and that
Speaker 1: was you know, enabling them to get free in the
Speaker 1: Russian game. And you know, really he kept it a
Speaker 1: close game for a while. If not for for those
Speaker 1: turnovers that the Patriots gout, it really could have been
Speaker 1: a different matchup. You needed three to put them away.
Speaker 1: I mean, it was basically a six point game if
Speaker 1: you don't get that third turnover. And you know, to
Speaker 1: Mike's point, like this wasn't just a big plays like
Speaker 1: they had ninety eight they had a sixty eight yard running,
Speaker 1: the thirty yard run, ninety eight yards on two runs,
Speaker 1: they would have still had one hundred and seventy yards.
Speaker 1: That's a good point because I looked at it. I
Speaker 1: look at the big plays and Mike talking about like
Speaker 1: getting the blocks on the second level on those big plays,
Speaker 1: they were kind of slow developing plays where I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: at number one, how was he not swallowed up to
Speaker 1: begin with? After it seemed like an eternity to get
Speaker 1: through the first level. But when you get to the
Speaker 1: second How are those guys not ready? They get bored,
Speaker 1: you know, just thinking that the play is over and
Speaker 1: you're right about the pile. Like Fred was making comments
Speaker 1: like in the third quarter like they just had to
Speaker 1: drive going and it was like the whole thing it
Speaker 1: was three four yards before contact. Yeah, you know, like
Speaker 1: everything was just getting pushed backward. You know, they were
Speaker 1: getting There was a play there was a cheer in
Speaker 1: the crowd that resulted in a six yard run and
Speaker 1: I looked at Mike, go out, we got into that,
Speaker 1: and I don't think it was a mock cheer. I
Speaker 1: think it was we got them, We we had them,
Speaker 1: you know, we made good contact, but the pile just
Speaker 1: moved forward. Yeah. I would love to know for whoever
Speaker 1: is the defensive coordinator on this team, like what was
Speaker 1: the plan going in because it just seemed like they just,
Speaker 1: I don't know, they weren't ready to stop the run
Speaker 1: or willing to stop the road. In base defense, they
Speaker 1: were getting early on and they were getting man had
Speaker 1: I mean, but they moved to a little bit more nickel,
Speaker 1: like a three to three you know, five kind of
Speaker 1: front with the multiple safeties, and that was when it
Speaker 1: started going bad, but they never really went back to
Speaker 1: the base. I think they got thrown on a little
Speaker 1: bit in base. It thought like, okay, they'll come out
Speaker 1: at halftime and they'll take their chances, but they'll fill
Speaker 1: the box eight and make Tannehill beat them with and
Speaker 1: they didn't do it. I thought that was going to happen.
Speaker 1: I thought they would completely take that away in the
Speaker 1: third quarter in the opposite because this is usually a
Speaker 1: team if they decide to do one thing, you know,
Speaker 1: stop the run, they can do that. And they couldn't
Speaker 1: do that. And I just wonder what was going on.
Speaker 1: Was it just rushed from this mini buy or like
Speaker 1: what was going on? I think the Titans just did
Speaker 1: a good job today. I think I think so too.
Speaker 1: They had they had They only had one chance to
Speaker 1: compete in the game, and that was it. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: you're when you're a team you know that has made
Speaker 1: its offense running the ball, even you know, Derrick Henry's
Speaker 1: Denrick Henry, but you still got that mindset even though
Speaker 1: Derrick Henry isn't there, that's your offense. You know. It's like,
Speaker 1: you know, Green Bay loses Aaron Rodgers, Jordan Love comes in,
Speaker 1: they still expect him to throw the ball. You know,
Speaker 1: the wide receivers still expect the ball to be thrown
Speaker 1: to them. And you might say that this offensive line
Speaker 1: still expects to be able to block for the run.
Speaker 1: That's what it's crazy, because they never put up to
Speaker 1: seventy with Derrick Henry. You know, it's just it's probably
Speaker 1: all had them all up. I think one hundred and
Speaker 1: eighty himself. But yeah, what you got on your bad list,
Speaker 1: Paul Um. You know again, it was that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: like you're talking about the big plays and how they
Speaker 1: didn't get swallowed up. I thought Devin mccordy made a
Speaker 1: bad play. I gave him credit for the huge play
Speaker 1: in the end zone causing the interception that ends the game,
Speaker 1: and he caused that touchdown because that should have been
Speaker 1: a ten yard game. Took a bad angle, got caught
Speaker 1: from behind and then missed the tackle and ends up
Speaker 1: being a sixty eight yard touchdown. Which is that's a
Speaker 1: specific play that Devin mccordy has made a career on
Speaker 1: is he does not take twelve yard runs and tourn
Speaker 1: him into fifty yard runs. They remained twelve yard runs.
Speaker 1: That was one misplay by him. All right, I was
Speaker 1: mostly about the run defense on my bad list. There were,
Speaker 1: you know, a couple of things in the Patriots running
Speaker 1: game obviously which they just couldn't get going. But I
Speaker 1: think it again, if you're going to point out flaws,
Speaker 1: you're going to point out bad performances, You'll always have
Speaker 1: to balance it with Okay, what were the Titans doing?
Speaker 1: I thought the Titans came with a decent game plan
Speaker 1: to guard against the run today, and I think whatever
Speaker 1: they were doing out there through enough of a wrench
Speaker 1: in to it to where they were forced to make
Speaker 1: your key quarterback throwing his first cold game. I mean,
Speaker 1: Rabel's no dummy, so I'll give them a little bit
Speaker 1: of credit for that. But yeah, there were certainly more
Speaker 1: I would have liked to have seen. You know, Damian
Speaker 1: Harris had some nice plays there toward the end, but
Speaker 1: he was large, you know, he was pretty quiet for
Speaker 1: the for the first part of the game. Yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: even with the fourteen yard touchdown, he had three point
Speaker 1: six yards of carry. Yeah. Yeah, what else, I'm gonna
Speaker 1: just kind of marry I think they were kind of
Speaker 1: related third down and uh and red zone for the
Speaker 1: offense three four or ten on third down for the
Speaker 1: offense and two or five in the red zone. And
Speaker 1: you know, I thought, I thought they moved the ball
Speaker 1: pretty well between the twenties. I could have used one
Speaker 1: of those trick plays today. I think they could have
Speaker 1: maybe busted one of those out inside the twenty to
Speaker 1: get in. I think if they had, you know, maybe
Speaker 1: finished a couple of those drives with touchdowns, it would
Speaker 1: have put the Titans away a little bit earlier. But
Speaker 1: I think Harris looked like he was getting ready to
Speaker 1: throw one. I'm one of those plays. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't think we've seen that yet, have we? Yeah?
Speaker 1: But no, that execution down there, I'm thinking of the
Speaker 1: one where you know, Mac took the sack. You know,
Speaker 1: we talked about missing Hunter. Just think they had a
Speaker 1: good stretch of red zone performance, and certainly they've been
Speaker 1: real good on third down all year. Surprisingly, I think
Speaker 1: it's one of the most surprising things about the offense.
Speaker 1: But today just it felt a little you know what,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna backpedal a little bit. I'm gonna go back
Speaker 1: on Mac and say neither because he did have enough
Speaker 1: you win Hardy, he did have enough plays where like
Speaker 1: you mentioned Henry. You know, Hunter Henry, that's an easy one.
Speaker 1: There's no pressure. He was wide open taking a sack,
Speaker 1: a couple just errand throws. So I'll say that he
Speaker 1: evened it out. He's not on the bad list, but
Speaker 1: I can't put him fully on the good list too,
Speaker 1: because I think that game could have ended earlier if
Speaker 1: Mac had a little bit of a better game. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kyle on the email said, don't let Mac off the hook.
Speaker 1: Easily one of his worst games as a pro. Called
Speaker 1: it cold weather. Now I don't go that far. I
Speaker 1: think that's he says, call it cold weather or whatever.
Speaker 1: Should have had two balls intercepted, two terrible sacks, one
Speaker 1: of them on third down. That was a bad sack,
Speaker 1: rookie played from a rookie quarterback. Glad to have the win,
Speaker 1: but on to Buffalo. I don't agree that he got
Speaker 1: away with a couple of interceptible balls. I know that
Speaker 1: you know that no one cares about that. But to
Speaker 1: call it one of his worst games, I think that's
Speaker 1: a stretch. I think when you when you add when
Speaker 1: you factor in what he's being asked to do compared
Speaker 1: to early in the season, it's hard to say it's
Speaker 1: his worst game as a pro. Yeah. Yeah, Uh Scott
Speaker 1: in apperly Bridge, UK, can we put mac Jones on
Speaker 1: the bad list? He had at least four passes that
Speaker 1: were into coverage, screen, into the floor, and I thought
Speaker 1: he looked hurt throughout. What do you guys think? That said, Uh,
Speaker 1: it's something to keep an eye on with that that hit.
Speaker 1: Did he get up you know, three or four yards
Speaker 1: short of the first down and indicated that he got
Speaker 1: a first down? Right? You know, I don't know if
Speaker 1: he got shaken up on that or something. He didn't
Speaker 1: get hit in the head. No, no, no, no, no no no. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but he said Scott is scare yep Uh. Scott says,
Speaker 1: if your QB can play badling, you can still win big.
Speaker 1: I'll bloody take it. Yeah. I don't think the q
Speaker 1: I think he didn't throw any interest like I like
Speaker 1: he threw for three hundred yards, two touchdowns, downerstutions like
Speaker 1: we can pick apart score all you want. I watched
Speaker 1: the game today. He didn't say it's the worst game.
Speaker 1: What do you want? I don't know how you could
Speaker 1: say you played a bad game. I didn't say that.
Speaker 1: You didn't you didn't know, But the email is. That's
Speaker 1: two emails in a row. Yeah, I don't. I don't
Speaker 1: know how you can come out of that game and
Speaker 1: say he played a bad If you want to say
Speaker 1: no list, I'm fine with that. I'm not going to argue.
Speaker 1: I'll let Douce argue because that's what he does. You know,
Speaker 1: I'm not really an argumentum raw. I can be convinced
Speaker 1: that he doesn't belong on any list that Fred and Hardy,
Speaker 1: that's what you guys stand. But I can't be convinced
Speaker 1: that he had a bad game today. Chad says, I'm
Speaker 1: sorry that you don't want to look at the stats, Hardy,
Speaker 1: but they exist whether you see them or not. I
Speaker 1: don't know what that means, Hardy reading the emails on
Speaker 1: a on a cold, snowy, windy game. All right, he's
Speaker 1: up on the snowy it was kind of none of
Speaker 1: the blizzard it was. It was, it was reasonably cold,
Speaker 1: the flakes were like minuscule. Then it was just atmosphere,
Speaker 1: not even whether it was atmosphere. Sorry, Chad in Atlanta,
Speaker 1: I'm sure the play needs to be an interception right there.
Speaker 1: That the linebacker completely fooled Mac Jones on this he
Speaker 1: was up at the line at the snap. He looked
Speaker 1: like he was coming as a pass rusher, and he
Speaker 1: baited him right into that throw. And not only that's
Speaker 1: a pick, it's a pick six potentially. I don't know
Speaker 1: how fast that guy is. Maybe someone would have caught him,
Speaker 1: but there would have been a lot of green in
Speaker 1: front of him. A net ball hit him in two hands.
Speaker 1: I've seen it in SloMo replay a couple of times now,
Speaker 1: and I didn't pick up on it as it happened.
Speaker 1: How quickly did he drop back into coverage? Was it
Speaker 1: a good play? Yeah, it was good, but it was bad.
Speaker 1: But it's a bad play by the quarterback. Oh sure.
Speaker 1: You know. That's why I could be talked into looking
Speaker 1: more into the numbers like you guys talk. That is
Speaker 1: the nicest and I think fairest way. I can put
Speaker 1: it enough bad plays to where I can't put him
Speaker 1: on the good list. That's it, That's all. Yeah, Chad
Speaker 1: says it was. It was the frozen tundra though, And
Speaker 1: and what more could he have done? I don't know,
Speaker 1: not had those bad plays yet, what more could he
Speaker 1: have done? He could have converted him more than one
Speaker 1: of those red zone because the last ones that irrelevant.
Speaker 1: They had a red zone conversions one for four and
Speaker 1: meaningful red zone drives. That's where the quarterbacks make their money. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's what more could he have done? He could have
Speaker 1: He could have put the game away in the first
Speaker 1: three quarters. All right, how would you like me to
Speaker 1: go to the phone calls now? Now you just praise
Speaker 1: me for I would say, real, you don't have to stop.
Speaker 1: We have to we have to get to the training
Speaker 1: room too. And I had I had kick coverage was
Speaker 1: I thought shaky to the point where they think they
Speaker 1: started kicking touchbacks on purpose because I think they had
Speaker 1: a hard time containing the kick kick returns. Uh. And
Speaker 1: I thought Myles Bryant, to Mike's point, when they were
Speaker 1: sort of in base early in the game, he was
Speaker 1: coming in as the extra defensive back and they were
Speaker 1: finding him. They were picking on him a little bit.
Speaker 1: One they got away with with a guy wide open
Speaker 1: that they missed the throw, and then one he gave
Speaker 1: up the flicker flicker was him too? Um said he
Speaker 1: got pushed off on that. Yeah, and he didn't. They
Speaker 1: showed the replay and he just I mean, he actually
Speaker 1: was he wasn't fooled on the play. I'll give him
Speaker 1: credit for that, but he get fooled on that. I
Speaker 1: wouldn't be a touchdown. He gave up a big he
Speaker 1: gave up a big completion on them. So I thought
Speaker 1: that Myles Bryant, Yeah, a little shaky today, all right,
Speaker 1: training room. Kyle van Noy went out early, but he
Speaker 1: came back. Yeah, High Tower was out getting looked out
Speaker 1: a little bit. He'd returned. And then and then Bethel,
Speaker 1: I justin Bethel came back here. He did come back
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Speaker 1: five five Pats five hundred Patriots get the wind to
Speaker 1: day thirty six thirteen over the Titans at you Ltte Stadium.
Speaker 1: Christian in Los Angeles, Up first, what's going on? Christian? Christian?
Speaker 1: And it's a Hardy. He's in LA. He's got a
Speaker 1: lot of other things he can be doing. Well. Maybe
Speaker 1: it takes time for the voice to get over here
Speaker 1: because he still want far away Layton ah artis. Instead,
Speaker 1: we go to Anthony in Columbus, Anthony, Europe. First, what's
Speaker 1: going on? Anthony? Hi, guys, how are you good? Hey? Um? Okay?
Speaker 1: So I live in Columbus, Ohio, which means that I
Speaker 1: only see a few games this season. I've only seen
Speaker 1: a few games season. I guess the Cleveland game, in
Speaker 1: the Tampa game and on TV. So my experience with
Speaker 1: sort of like monitoring the games over the course of
Speaker 1: the season, I'm like, I'm doing that on the internet
Speaker 1: as I'm doing other things. Is that and this was
Speaker 1: true today as well, is that they seem to like
Speaker 1: they moved the ball really, really well all the way
Speaker 1: to the red zone and then they stall out and
Speaker 1: you would, you know, you end up with the many
Speaker 1: field goals that Nick Folk kicked today. I wonder, from
Speaker 1: your perspective, and because you could see the games much
Speaker 1: better than I can, like what happens once they get
Speaker 1: inside the twenty? Why is it that they stall out
Speaker 1: in the ways that they do in the red zone.
Speaker 1: My opinion today is they didn't run the ball very
Speaker 1: well in any part of the field. So when you
Speaker 1: can't run the ball in the red zone, it makes
Speaker 1: it hard when you have to throw it in all
Speaker 1: the time, and I think it's much harder to do that.
Speaker 1: They didn't have the thread of the run. I don't
Speaker 1: think down there. They had two different possessions where I
Speaker 1: think they ran it twice to set up third, you know,
Speaker 1: and pretty long. The first one they converted with the
Speaker 1: throw to Kendrick Bourne. I think it was first and
Speaker 1: goal from the sixth. They ended up with third and
Speaker 1: goal from the five and he threw the touchdown pass,
Speaker 1: and then after that they weren't able to make those throws.
Speaker 1: I think it's hard to throw it in all the time,
Speaker 1: and I think that's what they were forced to do today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I gotta look at a little more what they did
Speaker 1: to the tight ends. I mean, you missed the throw
Speaker 1: to Hunter Henry. That's been kind of their go to.
Speaker 1: I just I'm curious. I would I would have been
Speaker 1: open to trick place today. I think if you knew
Speaker 1: you were gonna have some tough sledding with the run game,
Speaker 1: it was probably the spot to maybe pull one of
Speaker 1: those out again. But I think Paul's got a great point.
Speaker 1: When when you're got one hand time behind your back,
Speaker 1: it's tough. But overall, I just didn't I think the
Speaker 1: execution was great today. I mean, I'd like to see
Speaker 1: teams in the NFL that I have the best red
Speaker 1: zone efficiency, Like what's their makeup? And it probably starts
Speaker 1: at quarterback, you know not This isn't a knock on Mac,
Speaker 1: but he's not there yet that you know where he
Speaker 1: gets down there, he's this big red zone threat. You know,
Speaker 1: anytime anybody has to analyze Mac, they have to apologize. Well, yeah,
Speaker 1: you have to because or else people say, oh you
Speaker 1: don't like Mac. No. I love Mac. I love that
Speaker 1: we have him. But he's you know, it's his first
Speaker 1: year and he hasn't established himself as something that I
Speaker 1: think defenses have to be scared of in the red zone. Now.
Speaker 1: I can see why Paul would get annoyed at that,
Speaker 1: because Paul gets annoyed at a lot of things. But
Speaker 1: I think I think it's a way of couching in
Speaker 1: a little bit because you see other rookie quarterbacks how
Speaker 1: they're playing this year, and you want to be grateful
Speaker 1: for how they brought him along and how he's developed,
Speaker 1: especially when he was the fifth one picked. I mean,
Speaker 1: not that you're grading on a curve necessarily, but I
Speaker 1: think I mean, we're looking at a team that's eight
Speaker 1: and four now after starting two and four, and he
Speaker 1: has contributed to the wins. There are games like today
Speaker 1: where I don't think he had as much to do
Speaker 1: with it. There were there have been wins when he
Speaker 1: had practically nothing to do with them getting the wine,
Speaker 1: and you know it's they want in spite of him
Speaker 1: a couple of times with you know, turnovers and yeah,
Speaker 1: so Anthony, I think I think, you know, when it
Speaker 1: when it comes to that, part of that is is Mac.
Speaker 1: Part of it is you know, especially early on in
Speaker 1: the season, I don't think they felt comfortable with him
Speaker 1: giving him the green light to make some of those
Speaker 1: throws down close. They thought, you know, the percentages were
Speaker 1: better with just trying to punch it in. But they
Speaker 1: couldn't run it today. So if you're talking about today specifically, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a failing of the run game that that
Speaker 1: caused them to stall out down close to the goal line.
Speaker 1: How about SPI in Fresno, I SPI will never leave
Speaker 1: us hanging. We'll never get that that horrible sound from speed.
Speaker 1: What's up, buddy, what's going on? I put Mac firmly
Speaker 1: on the neither of it. It doesn't show up in
Speaker 1: the sets, but he's you know, he had a bunch
Speaker 1: of pullmenttions. He had a bunch of completed passes that
Speaker 1: just didn't look that good, that were slightly off targeted.
Speaker 1: But you know, he played. He played well, so he
Speaker 1: was good and he was bad, so he was neither.
Speaker 1: Um but um, you know, the stack that he did
Speaker 1: was in the middle of the third quarter. That where
Speaker 1: he takes that stack. UM. See that started a sequence
Speaker 1: which is kind of interesting because if I got this price,
Speaker 1: I think that then it was on the next possession,
Speaker 1: UM when when um, when the Titans took over. So
Speaker 1: there's like there's three and out that that ends with.
Speaker 1: Uhaul Paul mentioned Millston like incredible technique, UM to poke
Speaker 1: the ball out on that pass. But then on that
Speaker 1: three and out were extraordinary. It's like video game defense.
Speaker 1: I mean, just totally set the tone. UM that and
Speaker 1: then on the next drive, but you got that fourth
Speaker 1: down stop and then basically you know they're spirit broke
Speaker 1: at that point. UM. But I love that you know
Speaker 1: that three and out. I think that if you go
Speaker 1: back and you watch that, you could have seen some
Speaker 1: video game defense. It was unbelievable. Judean was extraordinary on
Speaker 1: that one. You know what I'm talking about. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: don't remember any standout plays, to be honest with you.
Speaker 1: I remember a terrible throw by Tannehill on third down
Speaker 1: to an open guy that he threw on the wrong side.
Speaker 1: He threw the play that Mills made was thrown to
Speaker 1: the inside instead of the outside and that play was there.
Speaker 1: I don't maybe we're thinking about different things that that's possible.
Speaker 1: That's possible. I didn't think really there was anything defensive
Speaker 1: today to to really write home. I don't have anything
Speaker 1: on the good list really other than individual plays. The
Speaker 1: mccordy tip and the J. C. Jackson punch out on Deontay.
Speaker 1: I mean, this tells you all you need to know
Speaker 1: about the defense today. One of my good plays was
Speaker 1: a thirty yard run right by the other team. Like,
Speaker 1: I didn't think they did anything good defensively today. It's
Speaker 1: very deceiving that the Titans only ended up with thirteen points.
Speaker 1: If they don't miss a wide open receiver for a touchdown,
Speaker 1: then they subsequently missed the field goal. After that they
Speaker 1: missed an extra point. This easily could have been a
Speaker 1: game if not for the Titans themselves. And I think
Speaker 1: it all comes down to the guys that the Titans
Speaker 1: were missing. I mean, what are you expecting from you know?
Speaker 1: Nick Westbrook Akena. I love how he always finishes my sentences.
Speaker 1: He's perfect. He's perfect. Well, like I'm married. I wanted
Speaker 1: to call back this week to complain a little bit
Speaker 1: because I think that you're definitely underselling the defensive performance ball. Well,
Speaker 1: I mean, listen to Devin mccordy. Don't take my word
Speaker 1: for it. Just like watch some of the postgame comments
Speaker 1: that I'm seeing coming in, like they're not happy with
Speaker 1: how they played. They get up two one hundred and
Speaker 1: seventy yards rushing, like they're not happy about that. But
Speaker 1: that's all they did. All they did was run the ball.
Speaker 1: They did was run the ball because they didn't have
Speaker 1: any receivers to throw it too. They were all hurt. Okay,
Speaker 1: I mean that's not exaggeration. They were. They were missing
Speaker 1: their top four receivers like that. They're on I are
Speaker 1: like a j Brown. I was called him Julio, like
Speaker 1: you used to Julio Jones. And what's what's the kid's
Speaker 1: name that they came into the Marcus Johnson like that,
Speaker 1: that's their top three guys. They're all out. They had
Speaker 1: one guy who had a reasonable resume and that was
Speaker 1: the Westbrook Akene guy. Yeah, and that was it. This
Speaker 1: is like they had nothing. You know what this is.
Speaker 1: I tell you what this game it compares perfectly for
Speaker 1: both Mac Jones conversations and defense conversations with what happened
Speaker 1: in the Jets game. Okay, the Jets game for Mac Jones,
Speaker 1: almost identical stad line. He threw for actually few yards
Speaker 1: I believe in that Jets game, three hundred and seven yards.
Speaker 1: He was twenty four or thirty six for three hundred
Speaker 1: seven yards, two touchdowns, no picks. Today he was three.
Speaker 1: There's twenty three of thirty two for three ten, two touchdowns,
Speaker 1: no picks. Did he look anything like he looked in
Speaker 1: that Jets game. I thought he was better today than
Speaker 1: the Jets. If you want to tell me the Cleveland
Speaker 1: game where his stats weren't as good as today, I'll
Speaker 1: tell you he was much better in the Cleveland game,
Speaker 1: all right. And and defense that's game. I think he
Speaker 1: was all over the place that whole first half. Do
Speaker 1: you recall I do recall that. Yeah, well, defensively again,
Speaker 1: if you just look at the points they allowed thirteen points.
Speaker 1: They allowed thirteen points. Now there was You can easily
Speaker 1: look at the rushing yards from those two games. I
Speaker 1: think the Jets maybe put up sixty four sixty five yards,
Speaker 1: so that that's an easier case to make the defense
Speaker 1: played better. But it's okay to look at them today
Speaker 1: and say even though they ailed them to thirteen, it
Speaker 1: wasn't a great day for the defense. Right now, Like,
Speaker 1: how many points realistically? And I'm gonna go to Fred
Speaker 1: on this because I think Fred, how many points realistically
Speaker 1: do you think Tennessee probably should have had today? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Twenty four? Yeah, I mean I I totally agree. Like,
Speaker 1: so you can sit there and say they scored thirteen points,
Speaker 1: that's the bottom line as points points points. I don't
Speaker 1: think Bill's gonna look at that game and say, well,
Speaker 1: held in the thirteen that's bottom line, that's point. I
Speaker 1: don't think that's the way Bill looks at a game
Speaker 1: like that. Yeah, I mean, they had such momentum on
Speaker 1: that long run that you know, on the fumble, yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, now they fumbled if it was the Patriots
Speaker 1: to be like, well early in the season, well that's
Speaker 1: who they are. They give up the ball. That's why
Speaker 1: they're not that's why they're two and four. You know.
Speaker 1: So it's not even a Ben don't break, it's a
Speaker 1: bend and then wait for mistake. You know. That was
Speaker 1: that was kind of how they played today. And believe me,
Speaker 1: I don't think Bill or anyone else likes to play
Speaker 1: Ben don't break the defenses they like to play, don't bend,
Speaker 1: don't break. Sure, no neither one. I mean Bill said
Speaker 1: it before, it's never our intention to let a team
Speaker 1: just march down the field. Yeah, that's not how that's
Speaker 1: not our plan. But I think in like the big
Speaker 1: picture of it, it's it's a false sense into our trap. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, and then just sit there like, yeah they did.
Speaker 1: They came up with it. That was a huge three
Speaker 1: and out that they came up with. Yeah. Yeah, it's
Speaker 1: one of two punts on the day, Like they never
Speaker 1: stopped them all day. Like, I mean, what was the
Speaker 1: time of possession both It's pretty close, pretty even close, yeah,
Speaker 1: because they only punted once. There were some long drives
Speaker 1: for for both teams. I don't know if you have
Speaker 1: the drive chart there in front of you, but you know,
Speaker 1: so he gets he gets run down and jac makes
Speaker 1: this play at about the forty yard you know that
Speaker 1: was showing on our highlight package right now. That Foremant's
Speaker 1: long run. Let's just say that ball trickles out of bounds, right.
Speaker 1: They're scoring points on that drive. That's this is a
Speaker 1: this is a point saving play by J. C. Jackson.
Speaker 1: Ye time of possession thirty one O two for the
Speaker 1: Titans twenty eight fifty eight the pass And it was
Speaker 1: good though to see like Born for example, make that
Speaker 1: play because one thing we haven't really seen from you know,
Speaker 1: the receivers for the most part, is run yards after
Speaker 1: the catch that they make on their own. You know
Speaker 1: what I mean? That was a big That was a
Speaker 1: big one for that because he turned it up. Um.
Speaker 1: I thought, yeah, you know, like we talked about with Jacobe,
Speaker 1: made a good play. That was There was a lot
Speaker 1: of good stuff going on in that. Yeah, let's go
Speaker 1: back to the phones here and we'll talk to Steve
Speaker 1: in Pbody on the Patriots postgame Show presented by Cyber Reason.
Speaker 1: Hello Steve, Hello Hardy. What's going on? So let's just
Speaker 1: want to talk about how important like having a good,
Speaker 1: reliable kicking game is. Early in that game, Bullock left
Speaker 1: four points on the board and it really changes its
Speaker 1: dynamic of everything. If you go back to the drive
Speaker 1: where Tannahill threw an interception on fourth down, but you's
Speaker 1: a field goal there. If he had they had those
Speaker 1: four points still be a one possession game. And it's
Speaker 1: just like, I don't know what it is about the
Speaker 1: Patriots in the twentieth century, which is in twentieth century
Speaker 1: twenty first century. We've just been so lucky to have
Speaker 1: a great kicker. It's been it's frankly, I think it's
Speaker 1: undervalued in the NFL um You're you're singing, uh singing
Speaker 1: my song here I I. It has always been astounding
Speaker 1: to me that more attention isn't paid to it. But
Speaker 1: we don't look past what Nick Folk has done this year.
Speaker 1: We talk about him every week and what was the
Speaker 1: announcement the fifth fifty plus field goal, is that that's
Speaker 1: a record franchise franchise with that surprising Steve so so
Speaker 1: Coming into today the Titans, Randy Bulleck had missed two
Speaker 1: field goals and Nick Folk had missed two field goals,
Speaker 1: and Randy Bullock had missed two extra points. Nick Folk
Speaker 1: had missed four extra points. This gets to my point
Speaker 1: that the kickers are generally even and it's when they
Speaker 1: miss It comes down to when you meet today, Absolutely
Speaker 1: the caller nails. It changed the whole complexion of the game.
Speaker 1: It changed the whole strategy at the end because he's right,
Speaker 1: you kick a field goal and make a twenty six
Speaker 1: twenty if you didn't leave those four other points on
Speaker 1: the board, it was a bend and then wait for
Speaker 1: mistakes defense. So today Randy Bullock missed. He doesn't miss
Speaker 1: any more often than Randy, then Nick Folk does. He
Speaker 1: just missed today and that costs them. And now this
Speaker 1: is the thing that's uncanny is that that point I
Speaker 1: made early? Did you hear this? That Fred fourteen for
Speaker 1: twenty three, Like, that's ridiculous. That's what opposing kickers are
Speaker 1: kicking field goals against the Patriots this year. I was
Speaker 1: gonna say, and we're almost more likely to miss. And
Speaker 1: why did he miss today? Because they played the Patriots?
Speaker 1: I love it. It was like, it's UNBELLI believable. It's unbelievable.
Speaker 1: Obviously I'm being tongue in cheek, but that's the actual stat. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know, crazy. Posing kickers have made fourteen out of
Speaker 1: twenty three field goals against What are they doing? I
Speaker 1: don't know. And it's not like they block them, like
Speaker 1: if they had like four blocks, I would say they're
Speaker 1: in people people's heads or if a lot of them
Speaker 1: were really long one right, how many have gone off
Speaker 1: the upright too? That's apparently apparently the sound was turned
Speaker 1: way up. On the broadcast, two people were saying, it
Speaker 1: sound like a gone I like that noise. Big Tea
Speaker 1: in Florida on the Patriots postgame show, Hello, yeah, I
Speaker 1: love that boying the sound of winning, Right, I like you.
Speaker 1: I'm telling you, yeah, Fred, come on, get with it
Speaker 1: about what in particular? Bellot check. That's it right, every
Speaker 1: time we could have played better, we could have coached better.
Speaker 1: And that's absolutely true. I mean, so what's negative about
Speaker 1: the see negative? So what's negative about that? No, you're
Speaker 1: staying there. Lucky on defense? They're not. I didn't say
Speaker 1: they were lucky on defense. I said they didn't play
Speaker 1: well on defense today. They didn't. Well, yeah, they allowed
Speaker 1: a few great runs, but they didn't allow a few
Speaker 1: great runs. They allowed the other team to dominate on
Speaker 1: the ground. They didn't allow a few great runs. Right,
Speaker 1: but the other team had two hundred and seventy yards rushing. Caller,
Speaker 1: Just imagine if the Patriots had just ran for two
Speaker 1: hundred and seventy yards against the team, what you would
Speaker 1: be saying. You'd be saying, we dominated that. We would
Speaker 1: take that at anything, right, Yeah, there are there are
Speaker 1: things to improve, but we if we had said at
Speaker 1: the beginning of the year, we would be eight and
Speaker 1: four with a rookie quarterback. I think most people would
Speaker 1: have said that sounds about right. And I have one
Speaker 1: right next to me. I have one right next to
Speaker 1: me that absolutely would have said that, right because you
Speaker 1: said eleven wins, right, I said ten seven? Okay, yeah,
Speaker 1: so you you had him right around here, right. Yeah.
Speaker 1: If we split with the Bill, yeah, we might lose
Speaker 1: to the Colt. Colts might be the best team in
Speaker 1: the AFC, right now, Yeah, I don't think so. But
Speaker 1: and then and then we win the other two games, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're right there. Sure. Yeah. No, Now, like a lot
Speaker 1: of people's expectations have changed because they didn't think Mac
Speaker 1: would play as well and and he has, and and
Speaker 1: now we're we're knocking on the playoffs because they've won
Speaker 1: six in a row. Yeah, that's it's funny how things
Speaker 1: like that work. And t T, I don't I gotta
Speaker 1: be I think you have to be positive, okay I
Speaker 1: And I don't mean to be dismissive. But if all
Speaker 1: you're gonna do is look and say who won the game,
Speaker 1: and you don't want to hear anything negative about it,
Speaker 1: then you need to avoid all post game aunt and
Speaker 1: by the way, it's not it's not our job. You
Speaker 1: gotta be positive. No, No, you're eight and four. You've
Speaker 1: once was six in a row. Now, yeah, six, you've
Speaker 1: won six in a row. Like the eye is on
Speaker 1: the important thing. That's the important thing. Like Fred said,
Speaker 1: your expectations you're changing now and you have an opportunity
Speaker 1: to do something that maybe six weeks ago you didn't
Speaker 1: think was possible. You can win the division to get
Speaker 1: the number one seed in the AFC. That's it's possible.
Speaker 1: That's it's there. If you can, if you control your destiny,
Speaker 1: you can do these things. I said before. That doesn't
Speaker 1: mean that you have to just ignore everything that's going on.
Speaker 1: You don't have to be positive. I said, if we
Speaker 1: get competent play out of mac Jones, we have a
Speaker 1: chance to make the playoffs. And that's I think exactly
Speaker 1: what's happening. Uh, let's go to George in Florida. George
Speaker 1: on the Patriots postgame show. Hi George, but hey guys,
Speaker 1: Hey Fred, that was just perfect for the segue. Listen,
Speaker 1: as long as he keeps playing the way he is,
Speaker 1: I mean, he faced Deanp's last week he faced Mike
Speaker 1: verre Go this week. You know, Josh McDaniel is calling
Speaker 1: the plays, he's trying to execute him. He's doing it
Speaker 1: for a rookie. You know, I think he's doing fine. Now.
Speaker 1: You guys just mentioned we can't be positive. Yeah, my
Speaker 1: nervous every game. Heck kay, oh at that was unlike
Speaker 1: even you that a dump hang up on the I
Speaker 1: just want to pick up your coffee and it hung up.
Speaker 1: I think I didn't say that you can't be positive.
Speaker 1: I said, you don't have to like we we don't
Speaker 1: have to be like that's not our job. We don't
Speaker 1: have to be positive. We have to talk about the game,
Speaker 1: right And I think generally, of course, we're very positive
Speaker 1: on the team, right. I'm sure at some point I said,
Speaker 1: all right, well, in order to get to a and four,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have to win six in a row. Nobody
Speaker 1: thought they were going to win six in a row
Speaker 1: after starting two and four. You look big picture this thing.
Speaker 1: Of course, it's overwhelmingly positive around this team. Right now.
Speaker 1: You want to talk about today's game against a Titans
Speaker 1: team that was hurting to field the Nashville and that's
Speaker 1: another part of it. Like everybody keeps going back to
Speaker 1: what you would have said in August, what you would
Speaker 1: have said, and when they were two and four, Well
Speaker 1: in August, well, you're gonna tell me that the Titans
Speaker 1: weren't going to have fifty three NFL players to play
Speaker 1: in this game, because if you did, I would have
Speaker 1: told you there's no way the Patriots are gonna lose
Speaker 1: that game, like we in the pregame show. And you know,
Speaker 1: maybe I'm too positive, because there's no way I thought that.
Speaker 1: As as much as I knew the Titans were gonna
Speaker 1: want to run this well, I didn't think the Patriots
Speaker 1: would give up two hundred and seventy yards. Maybe I
Speaker 1: was I didn't even think the Titans would get one
Speaker 1: hundred yards rushing today, and I'm not I'm not exaggerating.
Speaker 1: I thought they would completely shut that down, put it
Speaker 1: all on Tanny Hill. That was my key to the game.
Speaker 1: Make Tanny Hill beat you. Well, I'd never materialized because
Speaker 1: they just ran the ball all day. They just didn't
Speaker 1: execute when it counted. But you know, having said that,
Speaker 1: we knew that it could be a tough game, you know,
Speaker 1: because you knew Rabel was going to get these guys up,
Speaker 1: he'd have, you know, we'd have them playing tough. And
Speaker 1: I think what Belichick, you know, one of the first
Speaker 1: words that he said coming out of his mouth after
Speaker 1: the game was, you know, they got a lot of
Speaker 1: tough guys on that team. I would agree with that, Fred,
Speaker 1: And that's what Mike and I had talked about. We
Speaker 1: kind of wanted to call for a blowout, but neither
Speaker 1: one of us really did because we felt like we
Speaker 1: had too much respect for the way that they'll come
Speaker 1: in place a backdoor and look at it. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: ended up a blowout, but it really Wasn't know how
Speaker 1: many times if the Patriots, you know, with or without
Speaker 1: Brady been under man because of injuries, and yet they
Speaker 1: played tough because they knew they were under man and
Speaker 1: they knew they had to that's all they had to
Speaker 1: fall back on. And they did it. And sometimes they lost,
Speaker 1: you know, but they played tough. You know, the other
Speaker 1: team knew they were in a football game when it
Speaker 1: was over, you know. And I think that's the way,
Speaker 1: at least for most of this game. That's the way
Speaker 1: the Titans were playing today. Yeah. I wonder if this
Speaker 1: is the same Chad in Atlanta who emailed in Chad
Speaker 1: is it's the same Chad? Chad? Yeah, busted, you got me?
Speaker 1: What's up? Chad list boom m Hey guys, great win.
Speaker 1: I just want to call and clarify. Okay, So I
Speaker 1: may have exaggerated on the weather a little bit. Um,
Speaker 1: I'm from I'm from Georgia, so you know when we
Speaker 1: see flakes like that, it is no um. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I just mind my whole point about Mac not being
Speaker 1: on the battle list. It should being on a good list.
Speaker 1: What's been? I mean, are you in the same position
Speaker 1: to win the game if he doesn't perform like he did?
Speaker 1: I feel like maybe the bad place he had or
Speaker 1: back to back so it made it look a little worse.
Speaker 1: But that's all I'm gonna say about that. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe you can sway me as far as like putting
Speaker 1: him on the neither list, But would you be in
Speaker 1: the position to win the game if he doesn't perform
Speaker 1: like he did? No? But I think there's a lot
Speaker 1: of quarterbacks that could have given that performance today. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and and and that that is my point. And I
Speaker 1: don't want him on the bad list either, Chad. I
Speaker 1: also would would caution against looking at the big offensive
Speaker 1: place for the Patriots and giving mac Jones too much
Speaker 1: of the credit that Kendrick Bourne plays were Kendrick Bourne, uh,
Speaker 1: and you know, and some of the mistakes were glaring Ones,
Speaker 1: the overthrow to Hunter Henry, the screen pass into the dirt,
Speaker 1: those those, to me are are inexcusable. And this game
Speaker 1: could have been over. And I get it, you can
Speaker 1: only play the team that you're facing that day. But
Speaker 1: what if Dereck Henry was out out there and their
Speaker 1: three top wide receivers, Well, I would that would that
Speaker 1: play have been sufficient? Yeah? I mean I would even
Speaker 1: say take Henry out and just let the game unfold
Speaker 1: with some options in the passing game, and that game
Speaker 1: might be different. Yeah, Chad, thanks for calling in though,
Speaker 1: and for the email. Appreciate a buddy, yep. Okay, but
Speaker 1: I think you're right hardy to point that out in
Speaker 1: terms of yeah, you can say, like, what you know,
Speaker 1: do they win the game if mac Jones doesn't play
Speaker 1: like that? Well, so now you're taking mac Jones out?
Speaker 1: What what am I getting in replaced? I mean I'm
Speaker 1: playing with a quarterback, Am I not? Right? Like? Could
Speaker 1: Brian Hoyer not have made those through? I think I yeah,
Speaker 1: but Brian Hoyer, Jacoby Brissette, a lot of you know,
Speaker 1: like guys that can get in and do the job.
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm not. I don't think they were like
Speaker 1: I just didn't look like today, Like the Cleveland game,
Speaker 1: to me, Mac Jones was special, like he fits some
Speaker 1: some really tough throws into tight windows. I didn't really
Speaker 1: see a lot of that today. Let's put it this away,
Speaker 1: but he was incredibly productive. Let's get to was on Mikes.
Speaker 1: Let's give the Titans Mac Jones and we'll take Ryan
Speaker 1: tannehi Hill today who wins? Patriots win? Right there you go?
Speaker 1: But you know, Ryan Tannehill is a competent quarter He's
Speaker 1: a competent Quarterback's why I say I wasn't going to
Speaker 1: as Mac Jones, you know, but I didn't want to
Speaker 1: go there with Jacoby Brissette or Brian Hoyer. I don't
Speaker 1: think they're as good as Mac Jones. No, I don't
Speaker 1: think they are either. But if they'd be a couple
Speaker 1: interceptions today, if they played their best game, we do
Speaker 1: they do they have that performance? Now we're really getting
Speaker 1: in the weeds. Well, yeah, but this was on end.
Speaker 1: But this wasn't Mac's best game. No it was not. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Moistes in Connecticut joining us now on the Patriots
Speaker 1: postgame show. Hello Moises, Hey, guys, how you guys doing
Speaker 1: really good? All right, boys stepped up big today. And
Speaker 1: guess what. The number one seed is up for the
Speaker 1: grass and I want on new ones of Patriots to
Speaker 1: get that number one seed, you and me both. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they jump from five to two today with the five
Speaker 1: seed coming into the game and they go up to
Speaker 1: the two seed. We'll see what that win. The Ravens
Speaker 1: a chance to get to one, right if the Ravens lose,
Speaker 1: right right? Yeah, but but here, but here's the kicker
Speaker 1: at the bounds beat of Ravens. Tonight, the Pages will
Speaker 1: be the number one. We just said that. Yeah, yep, yep,
Speaker 1: you got it. Also, to guess what I think that
Speaker 1: we go one on one with Buffalo and then then
Speaker 1: the Let's three games will take them all and go
Speaker 1: twelvel five. Okay, wow, you know what? You need some
Speaker 1: help then, because right now that Buffalo thing is well,
Speaker 1: I mean, I think I still think Buffalo has issues,
Speaker 1: but splitting might not be enough with Buffalo because they
Speaker 1: have the tiebreaker in the division, right right as good
Speaker 1: as it looks right now, those two Buffalo games looming. Uh,
Speaker 1: it's you know, it's it's really more than you could
Speaker 1: have asked for. Again after the two and four, start
Speaker 1: to have a really compelling last quarter of the season.
Speaker 1: To look at man, there's a lot of the last
Speaker 1: year Buffalo ran away with the divis. Yeah, this year
Speaker 1: there's some pressure. Let's see what happens. I agree with
Speaker 1: what happens, all right, I agree with that game pressure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they have some pressure on them. Now see how they
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Speaker 1: the phones and talk to Dustin. Who's in Ontario? You're
Speaker 1: on with Deuce, Paul, Fred and me Hardy. What's going on? Dustin? Hey,
Speaker 1: fellas enjoying Heart eight and four records so far? Yes,
Speaker 1: oh yes, very much, excellent ex one Fred before it
Speaker 1: splits my mind again. UM, A little late to ask.
Speaker 1: But how's the need doing recovery? Doing every everything? Okay,
Speaker 1: it's great, Yeah, yeah, good, no problems whatsoever? So good.
Speaker 1: That's really good to hear. M. Couple quick questions. Why
Speaker 1: is everyone's so worried about my health? Because I think
Speaker 1: you're getting on in years? Could I look okay, now
Speaker 1: you don't, but you don't look sickly? No, No, I'm
Speaker 1: a robust seventy two. Um. A couple of quick questions.
Speaker 1: The last call actually leads into my question. My first
Speaker 1: question nicely, Um, I was thinking about next week in
Speaker 1: regards to our game against Buffalo. Um. You know, it's
Speaker 1: pretty easy to predict what the fans and the media's
Speaker 1: mindset is going to be. If the Patriots win, you know,
Speaker 1: we'll be well on our on our way to actually
Speaker 1: securing the first round by I think, um, if the
Speaker 1: Patriots to lose, however, it kind of got me thinking,
Speaker 1: what do you guys think the fans and the media's
Speaker 1: mindset is going to be as everyone you know, I
Speaker 1: can kind of I can kind of picture them saying
Speaker 1: something like, oh, the Patriots are coming back down to earth.
Speaker 1: We're not as good. They're not as good as we
Speaker 1: thought they were, so on and so forth. It depends
Speaker 1: on how think. Yeah, that's everyone's mindset's going to be.
Speaker 1: If the Patriots get beat soundly, you'll hear that. You'll
Speaker 1: hear up, See they're not as good as you thought
Speaker 1: they were. You'll hear that. Yeah, And then the rematch
Speaker 1: excuse me n the tailpipe there. But if they but friends, right,
Speaker 1: if they if they lose like thirty one to ten,
Speaker 1: then people are going to be like, well, you know,
Speaker 1: it's a little bit of a reality check. They came
Speaker 1: back to earth. They haven't really played any teams in
Speaker 1: this sixth game winning streak that were capable of doing
Speaker 1: what Buffalo did. Right, But if they lose like twenty
Speaker 1: eight twenty four, and it's a back and forth game,
Speaker 1: and maybe Josh Allen throws a touchdown pass in the
Speaker 1: last two minutes, say, would get them when they get
Speaker 1: the back here? Yeah, okay, do health service now would
Speaker 1: be our turn? I think the Patriots. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: the Patriots will do relatively well, so long as they
Speaker 1: don't at least as at least avoid playing like sloppy football,
Speaker 1: like paying turning the ball over, committing needless penalties, stupid
Speaker 1: things like that. Is this gonna be Max's first test
Speaker 1: in a hot, really hostile environment. I mean he hasn't
Speaker 1: lost on the road. About how many of them LA
Speaker 1: this is? Yeah? I was gonna say, this is one
Speaker 1: game that we won't be getting those texts like the
Speaker 1: Patriots travel like right, there'll be some, but you won't
Speaker 1: hear them. Did you hear did you hear the Raiders
Speaker 1: fans on Thanksgiving and Dallas? Yeah? That were there. That
Speaker 1: was frightening, Like Dallas. Yeah. I think that's a great point, though, Fredden,
Speaker 1: and it only adds to just Monday night football. It's
Speaker 1: gonna be great intrigue and an interesting spot for the Patriots,
Speaker 1: who probably are gonna come in maybe quote unquote leading
Speaker 1: the division. Uh, you know, and you think they were
Speaker 1: gonna go in as underdogs. But I don't know. It's
Speaker 1: just it's a weird dynamic with the Bills feeling like
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, Hey, we're looking up at these guys.
Speaker 1: Now we got to host them at home. It'll be
Speaker 1: a lot of fun next Monday Night. But I agree
Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be a great challenge, especially for that
Speaker 1: young quarterback in that environment. And the field is in
Speaker 1: the field plane too or what is it that it
Speaker 1: has a crest in the middle. Brady used to complain
Speaker 1: about that when he's first back, when he sees his
Speaker 1: first sex object in the field. What's that to explain
Speaker 1: it to him? You know, we should do that ahead
Speaker 1: of time. He's got so many issues. I can't even
Speaker 1: keep tracking my friend. Now, Yeah, I know, it's that's
Speaker 1: something that pops up, you know, literally figuratively, uh, every
Speaker 1: year when you play Buffalo. But I don't think about it.
Speaker 1: I get the feeling with Fred. It's like on the
Speaker 1: top of his mind, you say in Buffalo and he
Speaker 1: automatically thinks about marital aids on the field. Yeah. Yeah, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's a little troubling that really ate in anybody's marriage. Well,
Speaker 1: you know what, I'll talk to you after the show.
Speaker 1: I'm not even going to attempt your name. I'm just
Speaker 1: gonna call you Bart who is in Poland. He said
Speaker 1: score was much better than the play itself felt like
Speaker 1: a trap game from the beginning, which I don't want
Speaker 1: to get into the definition of a trap game again.
Speaker 1: That yeah, we're not going to do that. I agree
Speaker 1: with his premise. Yeah, and the fact that the camp
Speaker 1: your trap game that's at home, shut up. It could
Speaker 1: forget the trap, forget that. Fortunately, key turnovers played a role,
Speaker 1: but we can't continue to rely on them otherwise Buffalo
Speaker 1: will steamroll us. Anyway, good win this game. That might
Speaker 1: get some I was gonna say, that's assuming Buffalo doesn't
Speaker 1: turn it over, because they've been turning it over a
Speaker 1: lot lately, and I think that's more the other night,
Speaker 1: you know, just to go back to the caller, who
Speaker 1: was you know, saying being negative. It's just the big picture.
Speaker 1: You really want to get a beat on who this
Speaker 1: team is. And I think defensively it was a step
Speaker 1: back tonight, and it's it's it's one of those defenses
Speaker 1: we're in twenty ten. You felt like they got a
Speaker 1: terrible defense. But they're getting away with it because they're
Speaker 1: getting interceptions every game and then all of a sudden
Speaker 1: they dry up. You're getting a playoff game. You're really
Speaker 1: I don't get any turnovers and your problem, Bart also
Speaker 1: is that extend J C. Jackson, which we talked about
Speaker 1: in the pregame, and well we can do it again
Speaker 1: next week. But I am fully on board with extending them. Paul,
Speaker 1: you said you wouldn't You wouldn't be mad if they
Speaker 1: if they gave no extension. Fred Fred has been on
Speaker 1: this from the start. He It's one of the rare
Speaker 1: times I don't argue with Fred. We argue about everything.
Speaker 1: I don't argue with him. I I don't think I
Speaker 1: would do it, but I don't think FREDI I have
Speaker 1: a question about that. I don't think Fred. J C.
Speaker 1: Jackson wasn't drafted correct why because he had off field
Speaker 1: issues he did? Would those issues be a reason why
Speaker 1: any team would be hesitant to give him a huge contract.
Speaker 1: Yeah still now, I mean, yeah, um, I think if
Speaker 1: the Patriots don't resign him, I think that will be
Speaker 1: part of the mindset that's interesting to me. I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean, how many years removed do you have to
Speaker 1: be from those off field issues in order for not
Speaker 1: to be an issue? Right? You need something, some incentive
Speaker 1: to keep you on the straight and narrow, would be
Speaker 1: my argument on their behalf. I'm not telling you that's
Speaker 1: what they're gonna do. I'm telling you if I'm the
Speaker 1: GM and I decided I'm not going to resign J. C.
Speaker 1: Jackson because I'm that that would be part of my
Speaker 1: thought process. If I give this guy that money, then
Speaker 1: I don't know if I can rely on them all right.
Speaker 1: Caleb in Melbourne says, another great win. I'd love to
Speaker 1: chat about Folk. Would you guys be willing to call
Speaker 1: him our MVP? Without him, we wouldn't be winning as
Speaker 1: many games as we are. But the offensive MVP Nick
Speaker 1: Folk responsible everybody half of those thirty six points today
Speaker 1: through field goals and extra points. I mean, he's the
Speaker 1: most consistently, you know, the productive offensive weapon you have. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, what more can you say about him? I
Speaker 1: mean here hitting the long ones too. I think that
Speaker 1: was last year. You're just like me. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: he's been great inside the thirty, but there was some
Speaker 1: kind of block that you felt like outside of you know,
Speaker 1: forty five yards, that they wouldn't attempt it, or that
Speaker 1: you know, they had to protect him from it. And
Speaker 1: this year it seems like it's interesting. I didn't even
Speaker 1: think of that. Remember that that was a thing last
Speaker 1: year They wouldn't even try them. Yeah, now I always try.
Speaker 1: I think he tried the fifty two yards today. I
Speaker 1: don't think I would have done that. It made it
Speaker 1: a sixteen point game. It was still a two score game,
Speaker 1: and I thought, with about what five and a half
Speaker 1: six minutes left, gave the opportunity for a miss to
Speaker 1: set up the Titans with one last gasp. Yeah, and
Speaker 1: last year he Mike is right, I totally forgot that.
Speaker 1: Do you remember that like forty five and out? He
Speaker 1: would never even try it. He would either go yeah yeah.
Speaker 1: The goal for the fourth thound punt. Law thought it
Speaker 1: was going to be a sneak. He thought when he
Speaker 1: was setting up for that today, I thought, oh god,
Speaker 1: you're right now, I'm looking down the field like this
Speaker 1: is a fifty two yard or why why they even
Speaker 1: trying this? Especially to the north end zone. If there
Speaker 1: was any wind, it's generally, uh, you know, a problem
Speaker 1: going that way. And he had missed the fifty three
Speaker 1: yarder earlier and it was kind of an ugly kick.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, the miss was kind of low tractory. Yeah,
Speaker 1: why can I not speak like a knuckleball? Just pepsi.
Speaker 1: I promise it's just pepsi. Yeah. And in twenty nineteen
Speaker 1: with the Patriots, he played seven games. They attempted one
Speaker 1: fifty plus field goal that he made. Last year they
Speaker 1: attempted three and he got two. This year he's four
Speaker 1: or six, but two are the ones he made. We're
Speaker 1: on the last play of the game, the game winners,
Speaker 1: so they had no choice, do you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So only one time did they allow him to kick
Speaker 1: under no normal conventional field goal. UM. Chris in Honolulu says,
Speaker 1: not sure if you guys touched on, but Lawrence guy
Speaker 1: deserves to be on the good list today. Um. He
Speaker 1: made a few big plays early on and was at
Speaker 1: least disruptive throughout most of the game. Also, what's the
Speaker 1: deal with guys letting their mouthpieces just dangle from their
Speaker 1: face mask? That would drive me nuts to have that thing?
Speaker 1: It's called what that's what they call fish hooking it?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, I thought, he says. I thought you said,
Speaker 1: like the dirtiest of words. I'm like fish watting it? What? Okay? Um?
Speaker 1: Laurence guy have one big play early on. Beyond that,
Speaker 1: I do not remember him being a disruptive presence all
Speaker 1: though they gotta look at that to see if they
Speaker 1: running away from him. There's just too many, too much
Speaker 1: action in the running. Yeah, I saw he made a
Speaker 1: play earlier in the game today, but a lot of
Speaker 1: guys made I'll play. I can't put him on the
Speaker 1: good list as being part of the front. Being part
Speaker 1: of the front. You look at the replaces some of
Speaker 1: those runs, and it's just it's not like guys are
Speaker 1: like being double teamed or they're doing change in direction.
Speaker 1: It's just a hat and a hat and just getting beat,
Speaker 1: you know, get them. I think that was the first
Speaker 1: player I was a play early on and you thought, Okay,
Speaker 1: here we go, right, this isn't gonna be all game
Speaker 1: of this front seven, you know, in that place. Later
Speaker 1: Judon gets the sack and this and therein lies the
Speaker 1: only punt of the game for the Yeah, and that's
Speaker 1: and that's and that's probably something that they maybe could
Speaker 1: have put on the good list beside mac Jones. Was
Speaker 1: the start of the game. Just the way that they
Speaker 1: deferred the kick, they went out, they got a three
Speaker 1: and out, they got I mean the penalties, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: yeaha but good Bud punt return offense comes out touchdown.
Speaker 1: A great star. Chris Once did defend the defense even more.
Speaker 1: He says Dietrich Wise had a deflective pass Vanoia. Two
Speaker 1: deflective passes, one nearly an interception. Had Vanoia on my
Speaker 1: good list, yep, high tower, deflective pass sent a third down,
Speaker 1: saved a big play. Bentley was kind of weak on
Speaker 1: his tackling angles and his block breaking today, But overall,
Speaker 1: I think the defense did their job, and that's what
Speaker 1: we asked. I mean, there was a play and Barmore
Speaker 1: he didn't play a lot today. I don't know how
Speaker 1: many plays that he had. Did we have that yet,
Speaker 1: but I think they were holding him out because he
Speaker 1: was hurt. But when he was in. There was a
Speaker 1: play later on where he bull rushed two guys and
Speaker 1: Bentley ended up hitting the arm and they called it
Speaker 1: a fumble. Patriots recovered. But that was all because Barmore
Speaker 1: just pushed that pocket right into Taniel. I mean, he's
Speaker 1: a force, and I think that they missed him when
Speaker 1: he was at when he wasn't out there. Uh. Greg
Speaker 1: from the billing department, I survived. Greg from the billing
Speaker 1: department called an he wanted knockout pool advice today deuson.
Speaker 1: I told him to go with Tampa. I told you
Speaker 1: I didn't love that. I'm glad you won, I said,
Speaker 1: I was so stressed, and I just decided, iff it.
Speaker 1: If I was going down, I'm going down with Brady.
Speaker 1: Pick Tampa, throwing my jersey and diaper and went to work.
Speaker 1: What a game. The other two players picked the Chargers.
Speaker 1: So if the Broncos end up winning, I win the
Speaker 1: pool eleven thousand dollars, charges it down fourteen nothing? Wow, right,
Speaker 1: Evan Grant. Wow, we expect a lunch out of that
Speaker 1: at the minimum. Lunch does me no good. I weren't yet.
Speaker 1: You weren't here for it. Not a touchdown. You weren't
Speaker 1: here for it. Why should you get anything out of it?
Speaker 1: Because he trades unfiltered a Monday night football dinner for us.
Speaker 1: That foot was knocked down when he had the ball.
Speaker 1: See how quickly he's like, oh it's close. I think
Speaker 1: that angle makes it look You guys are so deprived
Speaker 1: at ninety eight point five. Whenever there's anything like in play,
Speaker 1: you you clutch to it like grim death, clutch to
Speaker 1: one like just a lunch, like God forbid you. You
Speaker 1: gave him a lunch. I gave him the pickstand and
Speaker 1: that turns into you getting a free lunch. That's not
Speaker 1: me claim or anything that's like no, no, no, this
Speaker 1: is all mine, this is all mine. You know what
Speaker 1: we'll you know what I'm like, I'm the boss, I'm
Speaker 1: the Kappo. I get a taste of everything, anything that
Speaker 1: goes through here, I get a taste. And when and
Speaker 1: when the Chocci Laprette first mate, right, Chachi Laprette act
Speaker 1: like that. You remember Chocci from the old radio station.
Speaker 1: You used to say, you gotta let me wet my
Speaker 1: beak a little whatever came into the station, right, yeah,
Speaker 1: gets the first night or that. That's what Fred is like.
Speaker 1: Everybody gets a sandwich. I go, Fred, take a bite
Speaker 1: out of it. All right, alright, getting married? I get
Speaker 1: your wife first. I'm again Alan in Texas on the
Speaker 1: Patriots postgame show. Hi Allen, Hey guys, how are you doing?
Speaker 1: What's going on? First? I gotta say listening to Fred
Speaker 1: scares me that my mindset is in the same place
Speaker 1: as Oh for Buffalo, Okay, Oh you mean with the
Speaker 1: sex object. I'm just worried because Mac is so young
Speaker 1: and innocent, like when they throw it out there. Like
Speaker 1: when I was little and the sexy commercials would come on,
Speaker 1: my mother would talk really loud. Maybe I wouldn't hear them.
Speaker 1: I could just see they throw the dildo out and
Speaker 1: then Josh and then and then Josh McDaniels is like Mac,
Speaker 1: Mac over here, don't look over there, don't look over there.
Speaker 1: Isn't that what it's called? Yeah? I think you're only
Speaker 1: allowed to say it. I think you're only allowed to
Speaker 1: say it once. Yeah, Okay, I said it once? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1: So the defense concerned me with the run game because
Speaker 1: I figured they were going to be key and on
Speaker 1: the run game, and the fact that Tennessee was able
Speaker 1: to run all over them and guy definitely need a
Speaker 1: great play one of the first series of the game,
Speaker 1: and after that, the defense, as far as the run
Speaker 1: game was, was pretty bad. I think they were just
Speaker 1: getting blocked all over the place. Um, But my question
Speaker 1: is about um mac Jones and his arm strength. Everybody
Speaker 1: talks about his arm strength, and to me, it's noticeable
Speaker 1: with them fifteen yards out, Um, the defenders tend to
Speaker 1: make plays on it. Is there something that can be
Speaker 1: done to increase his arm strength or is it going
Speaker 1: to be more that he's going to have to learn
Speaker 1: the play the defense better, the way he can throw
Speaker 1: the ball sooner. That's a great point. Incrementally he can
Speaker 1: he can improve his arm strength, but it's not going
Speaker 1: to be like he's not going to ever be like
Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers or you know. And I'm glad you mentioned
Speaker 1: that because it was one play. I said it right
Speaker 1: after it happened. It was a pastor Myers that Myers caught,
Speaker 1: but he got hit immediately, got jarred loose. If the
Speaker 1: ball had more zip on it, the defender wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been there at that time, you know, Myers would have
Speaker 1: had more time to secure it. And that was because
Speaker 1: the ball didn't have the zip it should have had
Speaker 1: on it. I can't disagree with that. And I think
Speaker 1: it's incremental. I mean, I think it's all going to
Speaker 1: be mental. Part of it physical a little bit. But
Speaker 1: you're you're right. I think it could be an issue
Speaker 1: and you can't improve it. You can't improve it, but
Speaker 1: it can't. It absolutely can improve and it will improve,
Speaker 1: just as Alan said with his uh, you know, when
Speaker 1: he gains more and more experience and he recognizes when
Speaker 1: to throw a little more. Yeah, yep, yep. Because I
Speaker 1: don't think Peyton Manning had great arm strength, but he
Speaker 1: his weirdness was so well, he's on another level. He did. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Peyton Manny didn't have great arms strength at the very end,
Speaker 1: but he did you know, yeah when he was playing
Speaker 1: with a broken neck. He didn't have great arm strength
Speaker 1: right the bulk of his career. But you never looked
Speaker 1: at Peyton Manning said wow, what a Horwitzer. No, you know,
Speaker 1: he didn't do what When I always looked at Peyton Mannings,
Speaker 1: he never threw a really tight like Adam Adam Horowitz.
Speaker 1: He's called a horridzer howardzer correct, Howard. He never know
Speaker 1: he used to play with really Jewish kid named Alan Horwitz.
Speaker 1: By the way he could throw the ball. Hey, well
Speaker 1: what we would say, what a Horwitzer? On the subject,
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Speaker 1: That's that's where the same game. Um Breton, Vancouver listening
Speaker 1: since two thy fourteen to the post game and Patriots unfiltered.
Speaker 1: He said, I think this is a better win than
Speaker 1: maybe we're given it credit for. And that's because they
Speaker 1: won again in a different way, and the best teams
Speaker 1: in the league need to be need to be able
Speaker 1: to win games in different ways. Oh is that he
Speaker 1: said the defense was not very sharp? Okay, okay. He
Speaker 1: also said, you got very little production out of our
Speaker 1: run game. Mac didn't win the game for us, but
Speaker 1: made enough plays that led to points, and he's just
Speaker 1: he's given now listen. I think I think this was
Speaker 1: very similar to like the first Jets game. Um, the opponent, well,
Speaker 1: no turnovers. You won the game because of turnovers, right
Speaker 1: like I think you've won a handful of games like
Speaker 1: that this year. I think you didn't play great, but
Speaker 1: the other team gave the ball away and you won
Speaker 1: fairly easily. Oh that was my secondary key to the game.
Speaker 1: Aside from stuff that turkey, it was gobble up the leftover.
Speaker 1: Remember that you can make it a work I somehow.
Speaker 1: I mean, I always provide multiple keys on that way.
Speaker 1: I'm guaranteed to be right. It does have a email.
Speaker 1: It does have This team has shown itself to be versatile,
Speaker 1: like they can adjust. Yeah, you know, and I think
Speaker 1: that's why I give I give Mac a little bit
Speaker 1: more credit than than some people, just because I'm you
Speaker 1: just you know, I'm saying a little bit. I'm not
Speaker 1: trying to rile your cage up at all. I respect
Speaker 1: what you laid out and you're right with a lot
Speaker 1: of those throws. That's just I think that this was
Speaker 1: a day where you didn't have the run game to
Speaker 1: really lean on, and at least in the middle of
Speaker 1: the field. They could have been a lot worse if
Speaker 1: they didn't move the ball in the middle of the field.
Speaker 1: And I mean they would have lost the game. So
Speaker 1: not perfect third down, red zone that stuff. Once they
Speaker 1: got into nitty gritty time and he was a little
Speaker 1: bit off. He wasn't nails lights out like he was
Speaker 1: against the Browns. But you know, I think they did
Speaker 1: enough to to do their part and keep the time
Speaker 1: possession pretty even get it close enough for Nick Folk
Speaker 1: to score half your point about what he does. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that's right. H Colin in the Bay Area. Hello Colin,
Speaker 1: Hey guys, I just wanted to say, Uh, it's kind
Speaker 1: of funny everybody's saying we didn't have a good defensive game,
Speaker 1: even though I think three takeaways for any defense is
Speaker 1: probably pretty good, and they weren't just like, gimme, do
Speaker 1: you guys think like we were out there trying to
Speaker 1: strip the ball or was it just like any given Sunday.
Speaker 1: They're well, the lucky J. C. Jackson one was a
Speaker 1: really good punch, the god Shaw one that was really
Speaker 1: bad ball security. I mean, I'm just gonna like the
Speaker 1: only fumbles that I'll ever there's there's two kinds of
Speaker 1: fumbles that I would say are somewhat understandable. One is
Speaker 1: the blindside strip sack of the quarterback when hey, he
Speaker 1: doesn't know what's coming. And the other is when you
Speaker 1: know a guy like has the ball or maybe as
Speaker 1: he's as he's securing it instantaneously, a helmet on the
Speaker 1: football right helmet on the knocks it out. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: don't think there's ever an excuse to be running down
Speaker 1: the field with the ball in your possession and have
Speaker 1: a guy knock it out. I don't think there was
Speaker 1: an excuse for Damian Harris to be running into the
Speaker 1: end zone for a touchdown in Houston and have a
Speaker 1: guy swat the ball out. Is that a great play
Speaker 1: by the guy who squatted it out there? Yeah? Yeah.
Speaker 1: Should never happen. It shouldn't. What happened to Deonta Forman
Speaker 1: today should never happen. I am in an NFL game
Speaker 1: and I'm amazed that it happens a lot. Yeah. And
Speaker 1: the reason why they still do it, Colin, is is
Speaker 1: because it does work. And ball security is an issue everywhere.
Speaker 1: The upper cut to jar the ball loose. You see
Speaker 1: players doing it, I'm like, And it started as a
Speaker 1: lot of things do in college with you know, guys
Speaker 1: just trying to you know, knock the ball does with
Speaker 1: that uppercut. You see it in the NFL a lot
Speaker 1: now too. And the reason why they do it is
Speaker 1: because it works. Not every time, but if you managed
Speaker 1: to punch a ball loose doing that one out of
Speaker 1: ten times, that you try it, it's totally worth try
Speaker 1: it all the time, but most of the time they miss,
Speaker 1: and it's a car and it's it's a good hustle
Speaker 1: played by J. C. Jackson, and it was an instrumental
Speaker 1: play in the game today, there's no there's no denying that.
Speaker 1: I just think, if we're going to call a great
Speaker 1: defense to a lot with thirty yard run and hope
Speaker 1: we punched the ball out at the end of it, sustainable.
Speaker 1: I just did the case kind of things aren't sustainable,
Speaker 1: and that's and that's what they're great. I just don't
Speaker 1: give the ball away. But you can't count on on
Speaker 1: those happening every single game giving up that great point
Speaker 1: that year that they were doing this every week. All
Speaker 1: it takes is one up and down the field on them,
Speaker 1: they'd get a couple of picks. It would change the
Speaker 1: course of the game. That's why today's troubled me, because
Speaker 1: teams haven't been going up and down the field on them.
Speaker 1: The last several Carolina did nothing, Atlanta did nothing. Today,
Speaker 1: Tennessee went up and down the field. They like that.
Speaker 1: That to me, it was different than the previous games.
Speaker 1: And I kind of thought the defense had kind of
Speaker 1: turned a corner. And you know, even besides the turnovers,
Speaker 1: Tennessee gets inside the five. Two out of the three
Speaker 1: plays are passing plays when they're running all over the Patriots.
Speaker 1: To me, like, if that was us, I'd be going,
Speaker 1: we're getting too cute. He's got too cute. I think
Speaker 1: whoever calls the plays there, you know, and they're too cute.
Speaker 1: And it was the only time that they The only good,
Speaker 1: really good run defense plays were the ones in goal
Speaker 1: to go inside the five. Even the first drive they
Speaker 1: stopped the two runs and they had to throw it
Speaker 1: in on third down and then on the other one.
Speaker 1: Two of the players, you're right, were passes, but they
Speaker 1: had they stopped two runs too. They did, so, you know,
Speaker 1: I mean, it wasn't I still think. I still I'm
Speaker 1: still with you. They ran the ball the first two
Speaker 1: plays and then they threw it on third and fourth down.
Speaker 1: I would have run it twice. Yeah, I don't understand
Speaker 1: what they were doing. Biggest team in Florida, not to
Speaker 1: be confused with big team in Florida, the biggest, biggest tea. Hello,
Speaker 1: hey guys, how are you doing good? Good? He sounds big,
Speaker 1: good good. Hey, yo, I've been hearing a lot about
Speaker 1: how you know, they gave up a lot of the
Speaker 1: run yards and everything else, and that's what we're expecting
Speaker 1: them to shut down. However, you know, looking at the
Speaker 1: final score, right, we know this is a ben no
Speaker 1: break defense. Well it hasn't We don't know. We don't
Speaker 1: defense is willing to let you go between the twenty. Now,
Speaker 1: see what you want to do. That's not how they
Speaker 1: want to play defense. And that's not how they've played defense.
Speaker 1: They've been better than that. You know, they're the number
Speaker 1: one ranked defense in football. Yeah, they've been don't break.
Speaker 1: They haven't. They haven't been been, but don't break. That's
Speaker 1: in the past. This year they've been. Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 1: That's not how they want to play, get it right, No,
Speaker 1: I get that. That's what they've been the past. And
Speaker 1: they've been very they've had turnovers. They've been the differential
Speaker 1: and the turnmentovers and the and the points four and
Speaker 1: against it. It's been a outstanding this year. Right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: they I think they're number they're one and two in
Speaker 1: the league for point differential with the with the Bills. Yea, yeah, right,
Speaker 1: right right, and they have the turnover differentials too. I mean,
Speaker 1: that's what they did today. Yep, right, yep, that's not been.
Speaker 1: But don't break if that's not been today, they've bent
Speaker 1: but didn't break. Yeah, but that's not how they've been
Speaker 1: playing all year. No, I guess that they've been. They've been.
Speaker 1: They've been dominating over the last five weeks. Okay, no,
Speaker 1: they have been dominating. No, I guarantee you. Yeah, correct,
Speaker 1: they've been dominating. Now this this what I want to
Speaker 1: say is like this, this team as a whole has
Speaker 1: been just for the past six weeks amazing. Like I
Speaker 1: would could say that this team has probably been and
Speaker 1: this could be a hot sake, but probably been one
Speaker 1: of the best teams we've seen in a long time.
Speaker 1: But like this Patriots teams we're talking about the Patriots. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it could be, but yeah, I don't know. I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like, look, you have a rookie quarterback
Speaker 1: running right, Okay, so that's not a qualifier games for you.
Speaker 1: And he has he has won a couple, but he
Speaker 1: hasn't won all of them by himself. He's not Brady.
Speaker 1: We're not looking at him as Brady or anything else. Like, right,
Speaker 1: I would say which is why I wouldn't say that
Speaker 1: this is the best. I would say this is one
Speaker 1: of the most pleasing Patriots teams a long time. But
Speaker 1: do you remember teams where they would play like five
Speaker 1: of the strongest teams in the league and they beat
Speaker 1: them all. I forget, like what year that was. I mean,
Speaker 1: it was just like, not only are we winning, we're
Speaker 1: beating the best teams in those tea. If if I can,
Speaker 1: if I can step in for a second, maybe what
Speaker 1: he's trying to say is that it is more of
Speaker 1: an overall contribution than we've seen in years pass where
Speaker 1: it was a lot about Brady or it was a
Speaker 1: lot about you know, one or two guys on the defense,
Speaker 1: and you had some outstanding individual performances. There are different
Speaker 1: guys stepping up week. It's a week and everyone is playing,
Speaker 1: you know, for the most part, a pretty solid game.
Speaker 1: We haven't had a game, Here's what I'll say, over
Speaker 1: the last several weeks. We haven't had a game where
Speaker 1: a guy said that guy sucked, start to finish, get
Speaker 1: them off the field. You know, guys have had better
Speaker 1: games than others, but in terms of the overall team performance,
Speaker 1: it has been a team it's very pleasing, it's it's
Speaker 1: it's exciting. But to say that they're better than oh, three,
Speaker 1: oh four, oh seven, you know all those But he
Speaker 1: was even saying in a long time, like to say
Speaker 1: the better than eighteam And I thought eighteen was the
Speaker 1: worst out of the six, the worst of my six
Speaker 1: Super Bowl titles. But I mean, please, like, when you
Speaker 1: start off by saying, considering we have a rookie quarterback,
Speaker 1: you're admitting that you're not as good as when you
Speaker 1: had right, Well, that's the baseline of it, right, that's you,
Speaker 1: you had Tom Brady. At the end of the day,
Speaker 1: it is going to be the best quarter which is
Speaker 1: why if you're in the qualifier form overall team, he's
Speaker 1: talking about him, But I mean, do you take overall team,
Speaker 1: This team overall is better than I don't think that.
Speaker 1: I don't seventeen either. Maybe I don't. I don't know yet.
Speaker 1: Like if you ask, if you ask me, like, is
Speaker 1: this is Belichick as pleased with this team as he's
Speaker 1: been in a long time. Maybe? Maybe, because that's a
Speaker 1: whole different argument. This this is personal for him. I
Speaker 1: know I would. I think you're right, But they're all
Speaker 1: doing what he's asked. He's asking them to do and
Speaker 1: and you know, the coachable he's winning without the quarterback,
Speaker 1: and that's what he wants to do. And I think
Speaker 1: if you look at the path of the games that
Speaker 1: they've won, they've done a great job. They've been a
Speaker 1: good team. They've taken care of business for the most
Speaker 1: part in the last six weeks. But if you ask
Speaker 1: me how to stack this team up, I still I
Speaker 1: still don't know. I still don't really have a sense
Speaker 1: of when they get into a tight game with a
Speaker 1: really good team that can do it all, I'm not
Speaker 1: quite sure. Didn't they do this in twenty nineteen and
Speaker 1: just like blow doors off of a bunch of bad
Speaker 1: teams one after another after another, And then you know,
Speaker 1: they slowed down a little bit when they started when
Speaker 1: the competition started to rise. Yeah, like I just I'm
Speaker 1: just matching up player for player. I don't look at
Speaker 1: this team as being as talented as they were, say
Speaker 1: three years ago. Yeah yeah, they went eight, no, and
Speaker 1: then they went four and four, And I don't see
Speaker 1: that happened this year and that team wasn't even good.
Speaker 1: Yeah right, But that's why, and that's why you just
Speaker 1: got to look forward to this Bills game because no
Speaker 1: matter what happens with who play, all that kind of stuff,
Speaker 1: it's like, this is what you build the team for
Speaker 1: to win the division, to play this team that won
Speaker 1: the division last year, that smoked you here at Gillette
Speaker 1: last time you played. So I think that that after
Speaker 1: that that game, I feel like I'll have a real
Speaker 1: sense of who they are in that regard. But I
Speaker 1: don't know, it's just that. And I think the things
Speaker 1: that you're analyzing with the takeaways and all that, it's
Speaker 1: it's all aiming towards you know, how are they going
Speaker 1: to stack up when they get in the playoffs against
Speaker 1: the best teams and you know, every play matters, and
Speaker 1: are they going to be consistent? And I think all
Speaker 1: of us kind of felt coming into this game that
Speaker 1: the defense they're starting to stack it, they're playing well there,
Speaker 1: this is a real good defense, and today it wasn't
Speaker 1: the same. Everybody can't help but say, maybe it was
Speaker 1: a hiccup, Maybe those other games were a little bit
Speaker 1: more based on how things but it's just hard to
Speaker 1: come into this game being like they just need to
Speaker 1: take care of business today and then you give up
Speaker 1: two I'd love to hear what the coaches in private
Speaker 1: are saying about this game, like, you know, we sucked
Speaker 1: against the run, but there's no other team that we're
Speaker 1: going to play that can do what the Titans did.
Speaker 1: For this reason, I don't know. It just seems so
Speaker 1: weird because two hundred and seventy yards of the that's
Speaker 1: college numbers, like you know, like that doesn't happen in
Speaker 1: the NFL a right, And that's why I think so
Speaker 1: many people are trying to say that's what they wanted,
Speaker 1: that they wanted. People are trying to I mean, that's
Speaker 1: what I mean. That's when I was talking about, well,
Speaker 1: hey they won, like all right, you know, but I
Speaker 1: don't think it's I would make thee I'll make the
Speaker 1: argument about how I always make fun of like the
Speaker 1: running game, like that to me was the post a
Speaker 1: child for that game, that, yeah, you can run the
Speaker 1: ball all you want. If you can't score when you
Speaker 1: get down there, you're gonna lose. And the Patriots through
Speaker 1: the ball for three hundred yards and that's why they
Speaker 1: scored enough to win. And I would say largely that's accurate,
Speaker 1: But I will not accept that the Patriots were giving
Speaker 1: them the run today, but they were playing like no
Speaker 1: defensive line like Bill Belichick is probably the best game
Speaker 1: planner that the River was. And you're telling me that
Speaker 1: he looked at what the Titans had in the passing
Speaker 1: game today and he thought that was the bigger challenge. Please,
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Speaker 1: You Hardy, I don't know how this turned to me
Speaker 1: getting yelled at. I'm so tired live from our studios
Speaker 1: inside you let stadium. Here's Hardy. Thank you're tired. Now,
Speaker 1: where do we get back to back primetime? Someone said
Speaker 1: to me today that there's a chance the twenty eighth
Speaker 1: moves to a primetime Also, Sarah a game on the
Speaker 1: twenty eighth. What's twenty eight? I don't know. December twenty eight,
Speaker 1: December twenty eighth. The twenty six is Buffalo at one?
Speaker 1: I don't would they move that one? Oh yeah? Could
Speaker 1: that get flexed? Oh god? Oh yeah there was until
Speaker 1: but Henry with Henry out, you know, well, no, this
Speaker 1: didn't get flexed because they're they're coming off a night game.
Speaker 1: They have a night game next week. They weren't going
Speaker 1: to give him three night games in a row. Correct,
Speaker 1: But the one against yeah, three out of four? Oh
Speaker 1: good grief. No, I don't want to think about. I
Speaker 1: don't think that will be either, because then they'll have
Speaker 1: the Monday night game and in the Saturday game they'll
Speaker 1: give him three in a row. Again, I don't think
Speaker 1: they'll do that, right, I mean, there's a bye week
Speaker 1: in the middle, but I don't I don't know. I
Speaker 1: don't think they'll do that, but you never know. Bail
Speaker 1: and san Diego. Hello, Bill, Hey guys, so how are
Speaker 1: we doing today? Good? I am very happy with the win,
Speaker 1: as I'm sure you all are. And Bill Belichick. For him,
Speaker 1: it's like Christmas came early with a big win and
Speaker 1: a lot of false to point out to all his
Speaker 1: players in the week. During the week, let me ask
Speaker 1: you this, did you guys see a Weno at all?
Speaker 1: Is he hurt? I don't recall seeing him one. He
Speaker 1: came in for Carris for a little bit because I
Speaker 1: don't know if Carros got beat up a little bit,
Speaker 1: but he was in for Carris. But they didn't do
Speaker 1: a lot of tackle eligible plays and that's what he's
Speaker 1: been doing lately. Be curious how many snaps he played.
Speaker 1: Didn't see him much. Yeah, it seemed like with the
Speaker 1: running game not going off very much that they may
Speaker 1: have utilized him a little bit more than they. I mean,
Speaker 1: the offensive line has obviously been clicking since Brown has start,
Speaker 1: has come in and has been a full time starter.
Speaker 1: But still, I don't know, it just it just seemed like,
Speaker 1: you know, money and running quarterback. But it seems like
Speaker 1: that's something I think that they could have gone to
Speaker 1: a little bit more with their you know, when the
Speaker 1: third quarter rolled around and they were still getting more
Speaker 1: than a yard and a half per running attempts, yeah,
Speaker 1: I just pound it. Yeah, yeah, I don't know. I
Speaker 1: just I kind of wanted more out of it. I
Speaker 1: thought when Trump Brown came back, he looked real good
Speaker 1: in that first game, and I think he's been okay
Speaker 1: since then. But I was just hoping that they would
Speaker 1: be a plus running team. And you know, they couldn't
Speaker 1: do it. They couldn't do anything today. Even even the
Speaker 1: late garbage time runs that they had I thought were
Speaker 1: largely individual. I mean the run by Stevenson was terrific,
Speaker 1: terrific run. Nineteen yard running must have carried half the team.
Speaker 1: You guys smell gas. I don't mean I mean like
Speaker 1: natural gas. No, I mean not like the like the
Speaker 1: human gas. I mean no, oh, do they. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: smell it. Oh great, kind of wrapped us up. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kai in Hawaii, Let's make this quick. What do you
Speaker 1: got Kai? Hey, guys, first time, long time, once day.
Speaker 1: Thank you for our great content. You make it easy
Speaker 1: to be a Patriots fan from a far distance. Nice
Speaker 1: thank you. And then I also wanted to say, I
Speaker 1: just have a lot of fun watching this team. I
Speaker 1: was expecting really not much starting the season with the
Speaker 1: rookie quarterback. Wasn't sure how he was going to be.
Speaker 1: And it has been really fun. They've been They've outperforming
Speaker 1: my expectations for sure. Every week. It's not perfect, and
Speaker 1: I will not say that they are the best team
Speaker 1: in a long time like that other color said, but
Speaker 1: they've been doing well. They've been playing well, They've been
Speaker 1: exceeding my expectations, and I'm enjoying the season. Well, i'll
Speaker 1: tell you what, kay, and thanks for the call. Last year,
Speaker 1: I think a lot of us said the same thing.
Speaker 1: Brady's gone, but it's going to be really interesting to
Speaker 1: see what this team is like with Cam Newton. That
Speaker 1: only lasted for about half the season. Then I wasn't
Speaker 1: interested anymore. This year, we said the same thing. Well,
Speaker 1: it's going to be interesting to see who wins the
Speaker 1: job and how it goes, and it has proven to
Speaker 1: be of a real interesting watch to see what type
Speaker 1: of product is going to go out there, how the
Speaker 1: defense is going to play week in and week out,
Speaker 1: who the standouts are going to be. It's it's a
Speaker 1: bit of a box of chocolates. I would I would
Speaker 1: call it a box of chocolates more than I would.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and one is very you don't know what
Speaker 1: you're going to get. I'm very pleased. Yeah. Yeah. On
Speaker 1: the field and off the field, I think just you know,
Speaker 1: the Judeon stuff has just been great. I mean, they've
Speaker 1: injected some personality in the team that wasn't really there.
Speaker 1: I guess there was, but it's just different. Um so yeah,
Speaker 1: it says I. Even the games that they've lost have
Speaker 1: been close, have been competitive. It's easy to root for
Speaker 1: a young rookie quarterback. It's just there's a lot to
Speaker 1: like about the team. Speaking of off the field, Johnny
Speaker 1: and Ireland says, is it just me? But as the
Speaker 1: standard of post game player who calls in after when
Speaker 1: greatly increased this year? Oh um, should I expect a
Speaker 1: call from Mac Jones by the end of the season
Speaker 1: or is media available that you got to We've been
Speaker 1: getting great who every every time I come here, it's
Speaker 1: Jacobe Myers. Well we've had second time. But I think
Speaker 1: he's right. I think that we've in general, we've had
Speaker 1: more relevant players in post game and I'm wondering if
Speaker 1: that's just because the locker rooms not open, so it's
Speaker 1: easier to get a relevant player. Yeah, who? Yes? Who
Speaker 1: else have we got this year? I'm a little bit
Speaker 1: we got born in one of the games. Right, we
Speaker 1: had jude On? I think didn't We didn't remember getting
Speaker 1: jude On. I thought we did. Matt probably has the log. No,
Speaker 1: I don't know, okay, uh Katina and Houston um gradians, gentlemen. Oh,
Speaker 1: she says some nice things about my work on lithium.
Speaker 1: That's nice unless it's you work on lithium. Uh No.
Speaker 1: But by the way, I thought this earlier like a
Speaker 1: psychedelic drug. No. Our last caller from Ontario. I believe
Speaker 1: all our Canadian callers are on some kind of a sedative,
Speaker 1: every single one of them. They all there. It's either lithium,
Speaker 1: xani something. They're on some kind of mood stabilizer. What
Speaker 1: I don't enjoy, uh is the oversensitivity of some callers
Speaker 1: who can handle the fact that the team is solid
Speaker 1: but at a subpar day, two things can be true
Speaker 1: at the same time. I also ordered a theory gun
Speaker 1: mini on Friday. Better be good because I only did
Speaker 1: it because you guys won't stop talking about You'll be
Speaker 1: happy to hear about that the dot Com moving products.
Speaker 1: I think Sweet Kid bought one too, based on the
Speaker 1: sweet He's jack he needs to get in was a
Speaker 1: gift though he was asking me questions about it, and yeah,
Speaker 1: I recommend deep Robin Australia. What's up rob Hi Jens?
Speaker 1: How are you good to? Two questions for you and
Speaker 1: I'll let you go. Um. First one is and this
Speaker 1: probably goes to Freddie a little bit more. Does this
Speaker 1: team remind you God? You may not even know a
Speaker 1: little bit of the twenty and ten Jets team, A
Speaker 1: little bit of of of that type of defense, young quarterback,
Speaker 1: the way they played were told obviously, and then um,
Speaker 1: another question for you guys, non football related. They were
Speaker 1: talking about eighties music on the broadcast in a kind
Speaker 1: of jog my mind. I want to ask Hardy what
Speaker 1: his favorite like in stadium. As a fan, pump up
Speaker 1: music would be for me, it would be like House
Speaker 1: of Pain, Jump around, um, and you guys can all
Speaker 1: answer the question. For that matter. We talked about this
Speaker 1: in the pregame while Paul was out of the room.
Speaker 1: So I will spare step out. I'll spare him for this.
Speaker 1: There's stuff that doesn't get played out. I would love
Speaker 1: I would love to hear him drop California Love. I
Speaker 1: think here in Tupac and Dre would would get everybody going.
Speaker 1: I like the old school cool in the Gang. Whenever
Speaker 1: they get that going, I dig that stuff well in
Speaker 1: the Gang. I don't know, I lean toward the old school.
Speaker 1: If you're talking about every something everyone is going to
Speaker 1: get into, you almost have to go seventies, eighties and
Speaker 1: it's almost has to be like up tempo R and B.
Speaker 1: House of Pain is an excellent song to get the
Speaker 1: crowd riled up, but it is not an excellent song. No, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's but a garbage song. No, I didn't whatever how
Speaker 1: the pains the group, but uh oh yeah, I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: Jump around you know what I mean? Yeah, that always
Speaker 1: gets the crowd going, but it's someone else's song. Like
Speaker 1: Wisconsin does that that's their thing, you know. It's like
Speaker 1: Renegade is Pittsburgh's thing. Yeah, you know, and the crowd
Speaker 1: goes insane. Like I wish we had something that was
Speaker 1: a little bit more unique other than you know, like
Speaker 1: Zolak's playlist. Like I said before, Somebody in My Room
Speaker 1: last Night by butthole Surfers. I don't want to go
Speaker 1: with Pepper, you don't want to go with the hit
Speaker 1: at that one of the great guitar riffs in Uh
Speaker 1: Someone's in my Room last night? Oh yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: Um we get a little Fred Zeppelin. Final email and
Speaker 1: final thought of the day. Joe and Osbrey, Florida, Hardy,
Speaker 1: I respect your associate's opinions, but Mac does not belong
Speaker 1: on the good list. He belongs on the not good,
Speaker 1: not bad along with I think we've agreed on that. Yes, Uh, well, no,
Speaker 1: you and I agree on We're getting Paul then Mike,
Speaker 1: and I'm only the good half. I had him on
Speaker 1: the good list. Uh he's he's still learning, but let's
Speaker 1: save the good list for when he plays good. That's
Speaker 1: Joe and Alsbury, Florida. All right, Joe, Well that was
Speaker 1: a little snarky. See, and here's here's what we're still
Speaker 1: trying to figure out. What the two thousand ten Jets words.
Speaker 1: That's Sanchez Sanchez, Ye that Rex Ryan was the coach. Yeah, okay, Santonio.
Speaker 1: They had they had a little something going and they were,
Speaker 1: you know, they were not the most talented team, but
Speaker 1: they played pretty well as a team. I think it
Speaker 1: was like an eleven and five kind of a year maybe,
Speaker 1: And they went to the ABC Championship game. They yeah,
Speaker 1: they were they were pretty good. Revis Cromarti too, they
Speaker 1: weren't great, but they were pretty good. Yeah yeah, Bart Scott,
Speaker 1: and they beat the Patriots two out of three times.
Speaker 1: They had a lot of swagger, you know. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: know when Rex is I mean, Rex is not probably
Speaker 1: not fit to be a head coach, but he's an
Speaker 1: excellent defensive coordinator. Yeah, excellent. But but just like look
Speaker 1: at the model of when they went into New England
Speaker 1: in twenty ten, you know, like that's what the Patriots
Speaker 1: model is going to be, where you know, Max got
Speaker 1: to play like Mark Sanchez played the game of his
Speaker 1: life in that game where he played perfect, he lights out,
Speaker 1: He had some great pree touchdowns. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: and the defense getting an early takeaway to kind of
Speaker 1: set the tone after you know, a pretty good little
Speaker 1: drive by the Patriots. It's just that, you know, those
Speaker 1: are the things. What's the complexion of the team. What
Speaker 1: kind of game are they gonna need to play to
Speaker 1: win in the playoffs? The overall takeaway from this game
Speaker 1: a sixth straight when the Patriots moved to eight and
Speaker 1: four on this season, with a big tilt against Buffalo
Speaker 1: coming up in week thirteen. So we will all look
Speaker 1: forward to that. We'll celebrate this victory, and we'll thank
Speaker 1: everybody who joined us on the postgame show via phone calls, emails,
Speaker 1: everyone who works on the show. Thank you so much
Speaker 1: to Mike Dousseau, Paul Perillo, Fred Kirsch. The final score
Speaker 1: for the final time, Ladies and gentlemen, Tennessee Titans thirteen
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