1
00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:04,880
Speaker 1: Wow, Hey, everybody before you show, This is Alex Galhart's

2
00:00:04,880 --> 00:00:06,760
Speaker 1: in the Fantasy Lives podcast Tony here to check out

3
00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:10,080
Speaker 1: our latest episode when we talk about preseason football. It's

4
00:00:10,119 --> 00:00:12,119
Speaker 1: back and we've got some takes for you guys. We

5
00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,000
Speaker 1: also dive into the a f C North and add

6
00:00:14,040 --> 00:00:16,200
Speaker 1: more listeners to the fan leaks. Check out the episode

7
00:00:16,200 --> 00:00:19,800
Speaker 1: on NFL dot com, slash podcast, iTunes, your favorite podcast app.

8
00:00:19,960 --> 00:00:26,920
Speaker 1: Now enjoy your show. The Around the NFL Podcast secretly

9
00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:31,200
Speaker 1: pines to open a lake side bed and breakfast. Welcome

10
00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:33,680
Speaker 1: back to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast.

11
00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:35,720
Speaker 1: My name is dan Ensis, and I am joined by

12
00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:41,320
Speaker 1: a room filled with heroes Colleen Wolf, Chris Westling, and

13
00:00:41,400 --> 00:00:45,120
Speaker 1: Greg Girls, a doll, what's up? Boys? And woman woman

14
00:00:45,200 --> 00:00:48,520
Speaker 1: with a y not today. Hey Dan, Dan, I don't

15
00:00:48,520 --> 00:00:51,239
Speaker 1: know about you in a hat. I am no. I

16
00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:53,200
Speaker 1: look good in a hat. But this is not the hat.

17
00:00:53,440 --> 00:00:55,160
Speaker 1: This is the wrong hat. This is a half that

18
00:00:55,240 --> 00:00:59,360
Speaker 1: was just no and by the way, coming at me.

19
00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:03,000
Speaker 1: I brought this up before the show. Certain hats, you know,

20
00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,440
Speaker 1: are terrible hats. This is a bad hat. There's an

21
00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,920
Speaker 1: NFL giveaway hat super Bowl forty eight. It's like a

22
00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:11,880
Speaker 1: gym hat and uh, I didn't have the product in

23
00:01:11,920 --> 00:01:14,479
Speaker 1: my hair, didn't have it controlled the quaff. I need

24
00:01:14,480 --> 00:01:17,520
Speaker 1: a haircut. How long have you had that in your car?

25
00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:20,400
Speaker 1: A couple of weeks. My wife yelled at me over

26
00:01:20,440 --> 00:01:21,960
Speaker 1: the weekend because it was a bad hat as well.

27
00:01:23,120 --> 00:01:26,360
Speaker 1: The dad hat. It is looks even the front of

28
00:01:26,360 --> 00:01:28,279
Speaker 1: it like you can collapse it because it's so puffed

29
00:01:28,280 --> 00:01:30,960
Speaker 1: out in the top. You're all dad like where colleens

30
00:01:31,040 --> 00:01:35,360
Speaker 1: just hanging loose in you. But I'm here for you, guys.

31
00:01:35,480 --> 00:01:37,559
Speaker 1: But I thought you were in today. Know him off.

32
00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:41,560
Speaker 1: That's why I've rolled in like this. We thank you

33
00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:45,040
Speaker 1: for filling in on short notice. Mark Sessler has things

34
00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:47,960
Speaker 1: he is also off. Uh and he was gonna come

35
00:01:48,000 --> 00:01:49,960
Speaker 1: in but he couldn't, so picked up the bad phone,

36
00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:52,400
Speaker 1: got Connie Fox on the line. We haven't had you

37
00:01:52,440 --> 00:01:55,680
Speaker 1: on enough lately. It's been a little while. Well, you know,

38
00:01:55,760 --> 00:01:59,800
Speaker 1: Connie starting to really make waves in the industry. Take

39
00:01:59,840 --> 00:02:03,880
Speaker 1: your Is that what you're hearing with NFL media? You've

40
00:02:03,960 --> 00:02:07,320
Speaker 1: been not even sparrows, just the television. Switch it on

41
00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,440
Speaker 1: and there's Connie at rams camp doing dispatches, looking very professional,

42
00:02:12,960 --> 00:02:16,080
Speaker 1: even punching back at the man by not wearing the

43
00:02:16,080 --> 00:02:19,240
Speaker 1: polo shirts. I didn't wear the polo that very Yeah.

44
00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,320
Speaker 1: Well I I did a couple of hits last week

45
00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,720
Speaker 1: with Ian Rapaport and he was like, it's weird to

46
00:02:24,720 --> 00:02:29,720
Speaker 1: see you professional. Really really that sounds like you two

47
00:02:29,760 --> 00:02:33,560
Speaker 1: had some chemistry there. Thank you, Yeah, I said, I said,

48
00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:35,680
Speaker 1: you know, Colleen is doing a great job when she

49
00:02:35,760 --> 00:02:40,480
Speaker 1: makes Ian seem human. That's what I meant. I can't

50
00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,520
Speaker 1: believe you. I think I got text from all of you.

51
00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,799
Speaker 1: Maybe not wet, but yeah, I just tweet out your work. Yes,

52
00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,840
Speaker 1: that's right. Uh yeah, we gotta get Ian back on

53
00:02:49,840 --> 00:02:53,120
Speaker 1: the show, just checking and how he's doing, especially in

54
00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:56,000
Speaker 1: light of this this new partnership. Yeah, I brought his

55
00:02:56,040 --> 00:02:58,440
Speaker 1: suits back to the office. I mean we're basic best

56
00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,000
Speaker 1: friends now. Yeah, well that's good. Have the shadowy League

57
00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:03,200
Speaker 1: figures come down on you for refusing to wear the polos.

58
00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,839
Speaker 1: I've just been trying to fly under the place. Well,

59
00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:08,840
Speaker 1: you know what I heard. I heard something that it's

60
00:03:08,880 --> 00:03:11,400
Speaker 1: almost weird that that any of the women wear the

61
00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:14,680
Speaker 1: polos because it's not required of the women, and they

62
00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:17,760
Speaker 1: almost think it's a weird. Maybe maybe that's that hasn't

63
00:03:17,800 --> 00:03:20,280
Speaker 1: been communicated out. But but that's what I heard. Well,

64
00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:22,680
Speaker 1: after the first day I didn't wear the polo. I

65
00:03:22,800 --> 00:03:25,240
Speaker 1: came in and there was a stack of polos like

66
00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:29,920
Speaker 1: in the dressing room area. Classic corporal message, right, So

67
00:03:30,040 --> 00:03:32,800
Speaker 1: I didn't wear the next day and then somebody said, oh,

68
00:03:32,800 --> 00:03:34,880
Speaker 1: they were just in there like for an option. Next

69
00:03:34,920 --> 00:03:36,480
Speaker 1: week you're gonna come in. It will be a horse's

70
00:03:36,520 --> 00:03:41,200
Speaker 1: head with the polo on the horse. West is wearing

71
00:03:41,240 --> 00:03:44,480
Speaker 1: the polo. We're talking is well, you know my policy.

72
00:03:44,520 --> 00:03:47,840
Speaker 1: If you give me free clothing, I will wear. Amen, Amen, Brother,

73
00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:53,680
Speaker 1: dream out loud? Uh nice episode today, Friday episode um TC,

74
00:03:53,920 --> 00:03:57,839
Speaker 1: I f Greg, Thank god it's Friday. We'll be doing

75
00:03:57,880 --> 00:04:01,400
Speaker 1: Friday shows the next three weeks, believe throughout the preseason

76
00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:05,040
Speaker 1: next three weeks Friday shows. Yep, absolutely true, because we

77
00:04:05,080 --> 00:04:07,080
Speaker 1: want to be able to react to some of the

78
00:04:07,080 --> 00:04:11,040
Speaker 1: preseason games, which will do today because foot football began

79
00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:15,480
Speaker 1: on Thursday with some preseason contests. Although don't get too

80
00:04:15,920 --> 00:04:18,360
Speaker 1: upset everybody out there, and you should read my Friday

81
00:04:18,360 --> 00:04:20,400
Speaker 1: and around Colum where I talk about that very thing,

82
00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,520
Speaker 1: uh self promotion. Uh, these results don't matter, but there

83
00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,240
Speaker 1: are things to look for and that's what we're going

84
00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,880
Speaker 1: to talk about. There's certainly things to take out of

85
00:04:29,880 --> 00:04:32,440
Speaker 1: preseason games, just not the final scores. I always get

86
00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:35,479
Speaker 1: so excited for preseason and like I sit down and

87
00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:38,400
Speaker 1: start watching and then I remember it's preseason. I kind

88
00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:41,200
Speaker 1: of feel the same every time. But Greg, you do

89
00:04:41,240 --> 00:04:43,719
Speaker 1: a nice job. I do notice, and you're excellent. What

90
00:04:43,800 --> 00:04:46,520
Speaker 1: we learned, uh piece that you wrote last night. I

91
00:04:46,560 --> 00:04:48,240
Speaker 1: don't think there was a single final score in the

92
00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:50,159
Speaker 1: what we learned. Oh yeah, you don't have to worry

93
00:04:50,160 --> 00:04:53,279
Speaker 1: about that anyway. So we will talk about what happened

94
00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:58,000
Speaker 1: on Thursday. Uh, several games UM took place. Also, we

95
00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,240
Speaker 1: wanted to touch on something that came out earlier this week.

96
00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,720
Speaker 1: But it's interesting, so we should talk about it. Yes,

97
00:05:03,600 --> 00:05:08,080
Speaker 1: ESPNS quarterback rankings, UM, which if it was just you know,

98
00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:13,040
Speaker 1: some you know reporter, some jabron over at the worldwide

99
00:05:13,080 --> 00:05:16,039
Speaker 1: Leader giving his rankings like stuff that we do we're

100
00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:20,440
Speaker 1: do every week him, I would be that, I mean,

101
00:05:20,440 --> 00:05:22,760
Speaker 1: this isn't I think you're right, this isn't even ESPN

102
00:05:22,880 --> 00:05:25,839
Speaker 1: is really the NFL. This is Mike Sando, I believe

103
00:05:26,000 --> 00:05:30,480
Speaker 1: reaching out to all the coaches, UH and various front

104
00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:34,320
Speaker 1: office personnel across the NFL landscape. So while this is

105
00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:36,760
Speaker 1: not a perfect list, it definitely has some more credibility.

106
00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:41,039
Speaker 1: What's so funny? Coin? I hat? No? Will you keep

107
00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:47,080
Speaker 1: itching your heads that Bob Marley shirt? What I'm saying?

108
00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:51,719
Speaker 1: What are you saying? What are you saying? Okay? Um,

109
00:05:51,760 --> 00:05:55,040
Speaker 1: So we will yes talk about the ESPN quarterback rankings

110
00:05:55,480 --> 00:05:58,360
Speaker 1: and see if we agree, disagree and what have you.

111
00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:00,760
Speaker 1: But before that we do have to hit a little

112
00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:02,640
Speaker 1: bit of news. And to do that, not only is

113
00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:07,240
Speaker 1: Mark Sessler out today, Mark floating around with his MacBook,

114
00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:11,920
Speaker 1: his new MacBook. He's a Japanese anime character now um

115
00:06:11,960 --> 00:06:18,040
Speaker 1: through Los Angeles. Also out today the irishman in his place, Sully.

116
00:06:18,680 --> 00:06:20,520
Speaker 1: What's up, ladies and gents, And you're wearing one of

117
00:06:20,560 --> 00:06:23,159
Speaker 1: my favorite you wear these different fishing shirts? Have the

118
00:06:23,360 --> 00:06:26,640
Speaker 1: have the white ones? Today? You have Sully Sean Sullivan

119
00:06:26,760 --> 00:06:30,800
Speaker 1: who does great work here, a real utility man. He

120
00:06:30,880 --> 00:06:36,479
Speaker 1: likes windbreakers orange or lime green. Well, he has three

121
00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,880
Speaker 1: the same exact shirt right, they're fishing shirts. You open

122
00:06:39,960 --> 00:06:42,200
Speaker 1: up in his closet. It's just like seventy three versions

123
00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,320
Speaker 1: of the fishing color coordinator off white color. What you're

124
00:06:45,320 --> 00:06:48,560
Speaker 1: wearing today, right, yes, yes, white. You have the green shirt.

125
00:06:48,760 --> 00:06:52,040
Speaker 1: It's like a kind of green would you call favorite

126
00:06:53,080 --> 00:06:56,360
Speaker 1: lime shirt? It's an ugly green. And then the third

127
00:06:56,400 --> 00:07:02,440
Speaker 1: one is I have a Tennessee one's balls. Yeah it's

128
00:07:02,480 --> 00:07:08,880
Speaker 1: it's a good look. All right, let's do the news.

129
00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:19,920
Speaker 1: That was a good one, irishman. Look out, Sully's coming.

130
00:07:19,920 --> 00:07:23,600
Speaker 1: For the title, I worked hard on that night. Yeah,

131
00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:26,760
Speaker 1: it's it's uh. I'm stoked it's back. That was Sully's

132
00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:30,520
Speaker 1: entire work this week. It's well done, just the right

133
00:07:30,560 --> 00:07:32,640
Speaker 1: amount of over the top. All right, here we go.

134
00:07:33,520 --> 00:07:35,520
Speaker 1: One big news item before we get into what we

135
00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:41,320
Speaker 1: talked about earlier. Tyrod Taylor is under contract or extension

136
00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:45,200
Speaker 1: with the Buffalo Bills. Signs a six year deal. But

137
00:07:45,320 --> 00:07:48,160
Speaker 1: of course, and you know what I've been talking about.

138
00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,560
Speaker 1: This frustrates me. It's not really a six year deal.

139
00:07:50,880 --> 00:07:52,800
Speaker 1: I don't really know what it is. But this is

140
00:07:53,480 --> 00:07:58,040
Speaker 1: is from from what I can understand, this is a raise, alright,

141
00:07:58,080 --> 00:08:01,560
Speaker 1: six years, ninety two million, it says, sounds like a lot,

142
00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:04,680
Speaker 1: which is outrageous. And the reason it's outrageous because it's

143
00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:06,800
Speaker 1: not even real. It might as well say thirty seven

144
00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:10,880
Speaker 1: years for seven trillion because be the same nonsense. But

145
00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:12,720
Speaker 1: really what it is, Greg, and help me out with us.

146
00:08:12,720 --> 00:08:14,160
Speaker 1: You're good with this stuff. And you were talking to

147
00:08:14,200 --> 00:08:18,000
Speaker 1: your boy Barnwell on Twitter. I saw nine million, nine

148
00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:23,200
Speaker 1: million this year. Yeah, it wasn't a shot, like was

149
00:08:23,200 --> 00:08:26,280
Speaker 1: it a little disparaging shot? I mean it was a

150
00:08:26,320 --> 00:08:29,960
Speaker 1: little condescending, But I don't like we're hardly insiders, all right,

151
00:08:30,000 --> 00:08:32,360
Speaker 1: but just smart guys. Nine and a half million this year,

152
00:08:32,400 --> 00:08:34,800
Speaker 1: which is a substantial raise, but it is still far

153
00:08:34,920 --> 00:08:37,840
Speaker 1: less than any any premier quarterback. It's even less than

154
00:08:37,880 --> 00:08:41,680
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick. And then a twenty seven million dollar figure

155
00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:45,320
Speaker 1: next year. But he'll never play under that figure, correct, No,

156
00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:47,520
Speaker 1: I think he does have a chance to play under

157
00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,600
Speaker 1: that figure. I'm so confused. Well, the problem is when

158
00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:53,160
Speaker 1: we're taping this podcast, we don't even have all the details.

159
00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:56,000
Speaker 1: But the reality is he got a raise this year

160
00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,360
Speaker 1: to a well deserved race from three to nine and

161
00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:00,560
Speaker 1: a half million. He is now getting paid less than

162
00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:04,920
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick on the list of average UH salary, so

163
00:09:04,960 --> 00:09:08,680
Speaker 1: he is very low on there. Then it turns into

164
00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:11,400
Speaker 1: an option where they can pick up a long term deal,

165
00:09:11,640 --> 00:09:14,520
Speaker 1: which essentially would be what five years, eighty five million?

166
00:09:14,559 --> 00:09:18,160
Speaker 1: Who knows something around eighteen seventeen million dollars a year,

167
00:09:18,200 --> 00:09:21,160
Speaker 1: which is about average for the starting quarterbacks. I suspect

168
00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:24,880
Speaker 1: all that twenty seven million dollars is is the first year.

169
00:09:24,960 --> 00:09:27,160
Speaker 1: The second year will be much lower. It will basically

170
00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:30,000
Speaker 1: be a two or three year extension that they can

171
00:09:30,000 --> 00:09:31,880
Speaker 1: pick up that option. He's gonna have to play well

172
00:09:31,880 --> 00:09:33,240
Speaker 1: to get it, but I think he has a chance,

173
00:09:33,400 --> 00:09:36,520
Speaker 1: if that makes sense a little bit. This is a

174
00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:39,080
Speaker 1: long year, nine point five million dollar contract, right right,

175
00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,600
Speaker 1: But I think there's a decent chance. This is where

176
00:09:42,200 --> 00:09:44,440
Speaker 1: if he plays well that they'll get it. They wouldn't

177
00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,200
Speaker 1: give it to him otherwise, how can you say it

178
00:09:46,200 --> 00:09:48,280
Speaker 1: without seeing the third and the fourth year. I almost

179
00:09:48,280 --> 00:09:52,000
Speaker 1: promise you it's a point five million dollar option is

180
00:09:52,040 --> 00:09:54,240
Speaker 1: a hell of an option, and this gives the Bills

181
00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:56,360
Speaker 1: a chance to pick up his option if he becomes

182
00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:58,440
Speaker 1: an all pro or m v P. Look, I think

183
00:09:58,440 --> 00:10:00,480
Speaker 1: that this was great because if they he did not

184
00:10:00,559 --> 00:10:03,800
Speaker 1: sign him, three three things could have happened. One, if

185
00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:06,040
Speaker 1: he didn't play well, then that he would have walked

186
00:10:06,080 --> 00:10:07,959
Speaker 1: away and they would have saved all this money too.

187
00:10:08,200 --> 00:10:10,679
Speaker 1: If he did play well, then they'd have to probably

188
00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,760
Speaker 1: overpay him the following season, and three, if he did

189
00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:15,720
Speaker 1: play well well, maybe they wouldn't have been able to

190
00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:17,080
Speaker 1: afford him, and they would have to let him go

191
00:10:17,080 --> 00:10:20,120
Speaker 1: in free agency, and that would be even worse. Absolutely,

192
00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,439
Speaker 1: and I don't think they give him. That's why it

193
00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:25,280
Speaker 1: feels weird. It's almost silly to argue about it because

194
00:10:25,440 --> 00:10:28,080
Speaker 1: you need to see the details. But what I would

195
00:10:28,240 --> 00:10:31,520
Speaker 1: strongly guess is that the second and third year parts

196
00:10:31,520 --> 00:10:35,560
Speaker 1: of the deal UH are gonna be fairly low. It'll

197
00:10:35,600 --> 00:10:37,440
Speaker 1: go down to like ten or eleven. It will be

198
00:10:38,080 --> 00:10:40,400
Speaker 1: basically they have the option to pick up a three year,

199
00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:43,680
Speaker 1: forty fifty million dollar contract after that, where he's paid

200
00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,360
Speaker 1: like a normal starting quarterback. And why wouldn't they do that?

201
00:10:46,480 --> 00:10:48,080
Speaker 1: If he has a good year, If he is a

202
00:10:48,120 --> 00:10:50,760
Speaker 1: little better this year, then they then they was the

203
00:10:50,840 --> 00:10:53,800
Speaker 1: year before. That's very similar to the structure of many

204
00:10:53,840 --> 00:10:57,240
Speaker 1: guys like Kaepernick or or tanne Hill or Stafford, where

205
00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:58,800
Speaker 1: you get a lot of money up front and and

206
00:10:58,840 --> 00:11:01,240
Speaker 1: that's their security. If he miss his three games again

207
00:11:01,520 --> 00:11:04,280
Speaker 1: and fails to see Sammy Watkins over in the open

208
00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,840
Speaker 1: over the middle again, I don't think I think he

209
00:11:06,880 --> 00:11:08,480
Speaker 1: has to play much better than he did last year.

210
00:11:08,480 --> 00:11:10,280
Speaker 1: And you know why I think that because all off

211
00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,760
Speaker 1: season Doug Willy has said he has a chance to

212
00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,319
Speaker 1: be a franchise quarterback. Not he already is one. Let

213
00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:18,200
Speaker 1: me just throw another thing out there. So they gave

214
00:11:18,280 --> 00:11:20,840
Speaker 1: him this money and they got the deal done. But

215
00:11:20,920 --> 00:11:23,640
Speaker 1: why couldn't you have just had him play under this

216
00:11:23,720 --> 00:11:26,960
Speaker 1: deal and he makes the three million or whatever that

217
00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:29,200
Speaker 1: he was due to make, and then if he lights

218
00:11:29,240 --> 00:11:32,720
Speaker 1: it up, you renegotiate then, or if you can't get

219
00:11:32,720 --> 00:11:35,760
Speaker 1: that done, put this franchise tag on the got Stephan

220
00:11:35,800 --> 00:11:39,240
Speaker 1: Gilmur might need the franchise Here's why, because they had

221
00:11:39,280 --> 00:11:42,200
Speaker 1: him over a barrel. But it was patently unfair to

222
00:11:42,280 --> 00:11:45,800
Speaker 1: be paying a starting quarterback with no competition that played

223
00:11:46,040 --> 00:11:49,439
Speaker 1: played well three million dollars, especially when he's not a rookie,

224
00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,079
Speaker 1: but he's he's a starter. I mean, he is getting

225
00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,839
Speaker 1: paid less than Chad Henny. He's getting paid less than

226
00:11:54,880 --> 00:11:57,000
Speaker 1: Matt Moore was a couple of years ago. And and

227
00:11:57,040 --> 00:11:59,280
Speaker 1: you gotta look at a guy that you gotta at

228
00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:02,240
Speaker 1: some point be their imagine if it would be like us,

229
00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, to think about yourself in a situation like that,

230
00:12:04,720 --> 00:12:07,480
Speaker 1: you suddenly have your own show on NFL Network every

231
00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:10,080
Speaker 1: night at seven o'clock, and they got you locked in

232
00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,360
Speaker 1: at this low podcast rate. You got bronchitis and missed

233
00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,560
Speaker 1: like a fourth of the season, and then the other

234
00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:17,439
Speaker 1: half of the games, the other half of the shows

235
00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:19,480
Speaker 1: you weren't that good. It's like, I don't if I

236
00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:21,240
Speaker 1: get a raised this because I feel like I deserve it.

237
00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:25,600
Speaker 1: I think being a starter is deserving it. Period that

238
00:12:25,600 --> 00:12:28,600
Speaker 1: that that's enough. I mean, he he was okay, I'd

239
00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,400
Speaker 1: take him over Ryan Fitzpatrick. It works for both sides

240
00:12:31,440 --> 00:12:33,679
Speaker 1: because if he plays well this year, then he's going

241
00:12:33,720 --> 00:12:37,120
Speaker 1: to get paid and the organization isn't necessarily over paying

242
00:12:37,160 --> 00:12:39,080
Speaker 1: for him. They're paying him a fair amount if he

243
00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:41,120
Speaker 1: does play well. So it was a good will gesture

244
00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:43,880
Speaker 1: more than anything else. I think that was I think

245
00:12:43,920 --> 00:12:46,040
Speaker 1: that was part of it. I think we were trying

246
00:12:46,040 --> 00:12:48,520
Speaker 1: to be fair to him, and I think West, you know,

247
00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:51,360
Speaker 1: I think you're right, he will have to play better.

248
00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:54,839
Speaker 1: Maybe well we can disagree on what's better. Well, which

249
00:12:54,880 --> 00:12:56,480
Speaker 1: you're gonna have to take a big step, which is

250
00:12:56,520 --> 00:12:59,720
Speaker 1: no small thing, because he exceeded expectation absolutely. I mean

251
00:12:59,840 --> 00:13:02,000
Speaker 1: that people forget that's the top ten offense last year.

252
00:13:02,360 --> 00:13:05,520
Speaker 1: Six years. But going back to my point, the second

253
00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:10,280
Speaker 1: paragraph of the article on NFL dot com has six

254
00:13:10,400 --> 00:13:14,240
Speaker 1: years ninety two million. I need all the agents and

255
00:13:14,360 --> 00:13:16,679
Speaker 1: the g ms and the NFL insiders to get in

256
00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,320
Speaker 1: the same room together and figure that you're never going

257
00:13:19,360 --> 00:13:22,160
Speaker 1: to get the agents to do that. Let's let's figure

258
00:13:22,160 --> 00:13:25,600
Speaker 1: it out for people. Probably went even more inflated numbers

259
00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,000
Speaker 1: out there, I know, but that's not right. We need

260
00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:31,000
Speaker 1: the bills are doing the right thing. Here is Greg

261
00:13:31,120 --> 00:13:32,960
Speaker 1: suggests that the agents need to do the right thing.

262
00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,640
Speaker 1: Connie Fox, last word is yours. Um. I would like

263
00:13:37,880 --> 00:13:40,199
Speaker 1: them to have. I would like there to be some

264
00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,240
Speaker 1: type of class on the cap if that was available.

265
00:13:43,559 --> 00:13:45,680
Speaker 1: I think that would really help everybody out a little bit.

266
00:13:45,760 --> 00:13:47,520
Speaker 1: To be like three people signed up for that class.

267
00:13:47,800 --> 00:13:49,920
Speaker 1: I would be in the front row classic. That's what

268
00:13:50,200 --> 00:13:52,000
Speaker 1: I was just gonna say. In my car right now,

269
00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,480
Speaker 1: it's just filled with binders because when I moved out

270
00:13:54,520 --> 00:13:56,800
Speaker 1: of my old house, I found a stack of binders

271
00:13:56,920 --> 00:13:59,079
Speaker 1: and I kind of felt bad throwing them all away.

272
00:13:59,320 --> 00:14:02,079
Speaker 1: Binder Mobile, I know, I'm like hoarding binders at this

273
00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:05,400
Speaker 1: point in my car. Wasn't it? Wasn't it mit Mitt

274
00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:08,079
Speaker 1: Romney who was impressed with women with lots of binders?

275
00:14:08,480 --> 00:14:13,200
Speaker 1: I believe it was. We're gonna bring that back, all right,

276
00:14:13,440 --> 00:14:17,160
Speaker 1: Do you want to bring back Mitt Romney's binders binder

277
00:14:17,200 --> 00:14:20,160
Speaker 1: bits with Mitt Romney? All right, that's what's happening in

278
00:14:20,280 --> 00:14:22,840
Speaker 1: the news. Alright, let's binders full of women. That's what

279
00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,720
Speaker 1: he had, binders full of women that you would hire. Alright, guys,

280
00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,320
Speaker 1: let's talk about it. Football back on Thursday night, six games,

281
00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:36,440
Speaker 1: very good, very good, Sully and Greg, as I said,

282
00:14:36,760 --> 00:14:39,600
Speaker 1: uh or I alluded to, but now I'll say it outright.

283
00:14:39,840 --> 00:14:43,200
Speaker 1: Greg wrote a banger what we learned Colin Broncos QB

284
00:14:43,320 --> 00:14:46,160
Speaker 1: battle remains tight, and that was the headline of his

285
00:14:46,280 --> 00:14:48,760
Speaker 1: what we Learned column, where we touched on all the

286
00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:50,840
Speaker 1: games and all the action that happened. So Greg, we're

287
00:14:50,840 --> 00:14:54,720
Speaker 1: gonna start with you here. What was your biggest takeaway?

288
00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,680
Speaker 1: Starting in Denver or I should say Chicago. Well, I

289
00:14:58,800 --> 00:15:01,560
Speaker 1: think that was the game to watch because it's the

290
00:15:01,600 --> 00:15:04,520
Speaker 1: defending Super Bowl champions with the starting quarterback job up

291
00:15:04,560 --> 00:15:07,280
Speaker 1: for grabs. So I wanted to see how those guys played.

292
00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,920
Speaker 1: And you saw Mark sanchez career in a nutshell and

293
00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:13,000
Speaker 1: three drives, a perfect first drive where he made a

294
00:15:13,080 --> 00:15:15,680
Speaker 1: lot of nice throws. Probably one of the the least

295
00:15:15,720 --> 00:15:18,120
Speaker 1: impressive throws was the thirty two yard touchdown because the

296
00:15:18,120 --> 00:15:20,440
Speaker 1: Marius Thomas was wide open. But he took some big hits.

297
00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,800
Speaker 1: He was decisive. He made good hit on that throw,

298
00:15:22,960 --> 00:15:26,040
Speaker 1: right yeah, and you're thinking, you're thinking, Okay, Sanchez is

299
00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:27,760
Speaker 1: gonna take a big lead. And that's kind of how

300
00:15:27,840 --> 00:15:30,800
Speaker 1: all the Denver writers, uh, you know, said it after

301
00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:32,480
Speaker 1: the game. I was surprised about that. But the next

302
00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:36,680
Speaker 1: two drives, bad decision, interception, three and out, and then

303
00:15:36,720 --> 00:15:38,880
Speaker 1: he's out of the game and then Trevor Simeon comes in.

304
00:15:39,040 --> 00:15:41,760
Speaker 1: I thought Trevor Simeon looked like kind of a professional

305
00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:44,680
Speaker 1: quarterbook some pocket presents. A couple of nice throws. You

306
00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:47,200
Speaker 1: can only take so much from a quarter. But he

307
00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:48,920
Speaker 1: had them kicking a field goal and three of his

308
00:15:49,000 --> 00:15:51,000
Speaker 1: four drives, and I came away with that. It was

309
00:15:51,080 --> 00:15:54,400
Speaker 1: kind of confirming everything you heard about this preseason that

310
00:15:54,520 --> 00:15:57,720
Speaker 1: Simeon's a little safer and Sanchez is more up and down.

311
00:15:57,760 --> 00:15:59,880
Speaker 1: That's what you get with him. Three throws from Trevor

312
00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,160
Speaker 1: Simmion that I loved, and I'm not sure Mark Sanchez

313
00:16:02,240 --> 00:16:04,240
Speaker 1: can do. He had a skinny post right off the

314
00:16:04,280 --> 00:16:06,000
Speaker 1: bat where he has to receive it right in the hands,

315
00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,520
Speaker 1: the beautiful back shoulder that should have been a touchdown

316
00:16:08,560 --> 00:16:10,440
Speaker 1: to Benny Fowler, but he couldn't pull it in. And

317
00:16:10,520 --> 00:16:13,120
Speaker 1: then right before the half, rolling out in the pocket

318
00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,760
Speaker 1: right by the sideline, throws a bullet right down the

319
00:16:15,800 --> 00:16:17,680
Speaker 1: field and puts him in field goal range. I believe

320
00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:19,200
Speaker 1: the field goal was blocked, but he put him in

321
00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:21,440
Speaker 1: there where it was Paxton Lynch and all this well,

322
00:16:21,520 --> 00:16:23,920
Speaker 1: he played the whole second half and they didn't score

323
00:16:24,160 --> 00:16:27,320
Speaker 1: offensively in the second half. And on a on a

324
00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:29,440
Speaker 1: one of his runs and on a couple of his throws,

325
00:16:29,480 --> 00:16:31,680
Speaker 1: you could see, man, he has a big arm. Oh

326
00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,920
Speaker 1: he's got a huge set of hose, and he's very athletic,

327
00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:37,320
Speaker 1: but he looked he looked like a rookie that wasn't

328
00:16:37,320 --> 00:16:39,720
Speaker 1: ready for the big stage yet. You know, he held

329
00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:42,200
Speaker 1: the ball awhile took some sacks and so it kind

330
00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:44,240
Speaker 1: of all it all confirmed what the writers who have

331
00:16:44,320 --> 00:16:47,040
Speaker 1: been watching practices of How about that defense too, I mean,

332
00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,000
Speaker 1: you look at what they did. They had seven sacks

333
00:16:49,040 --> 00:16:51,600
Speaker 1: in the game, and they didn't have Von Miller DeMarcus

334
00:16:51,680 --> 00:16:55,000
Speaker 1: ware Keep to leave Chris Harris. I know it's preseason,

335
00:16:55,040 --> 00:16:57,040
Speaker 1: but they looked so good. I looked at that from

336
00:16:57,080 --> 00:16:59,360
Speaker 1: the Bears point of view. They have major issues at

337
00:16:59,440 --> 00:17:02,880
Speaker 1: center that showed up throughout the game, and David Fayle

338
00:17:02,960 --> 00:17:08,680
Speaker 1: should probably never play in the preseason again. Right, That's

339
00:17:08,720 --> 00:17:11,040
Speaker 1: the thing that it's the second and you're you're watching

340
00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:14,560
Speaker 1: backups and third you know, stringers most of the game. Um,

341
00:17:15,040 --> 00:17:18,199
Speaker 1: but so it's tough to truly value, but the quarterbacks,

342
00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,399
Speaker 1: you know, I think the longer this goes, Kubiak's gotta

343
00:17:21,480 --> 00:17:24,679
Speaker 1: think if Simeon is a little safer, like he's more

344
00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,280
Speaker 1: careful with the ball, doesn't he have a higher upside.

345
00:17:27,320 --> 00:17:29,640
Speaker 1: He's a second year, pretty athletic too, he can move.

346
00:17:30,200 --> 00:17:32,760
Speaker 1: I liked it. I like the idea of Simeon started

347
00:17:32,920 --> 00:17:35,000
Speaker 1: and like, I think there might not be three or

348
00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:36,720
Speaker 1: four quarterbacks in the league with a stronger arm than

349
00:17:36,800 --> 00:17:40,080
Speaker 1: Pacton Lynch like for the future, he's he's intriguing. Well, yeah,

350
00:17:40,080 --> 00:17:43,120
Speaker 1: there was one one throw where he threw it all

351
00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:45,879
Speaker 1: the way across the field on a deep out and

352
00:17:46,000 --> 00:17:47,720
Speaker 1: he was all the way on the you know, beyond

353
00:17:47,800 --> 00:17:49,399
Speaker 1: the left hash market. He threw it to the right

354
00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:51,320
Speaker 1: sideline and you just don't see like Cam Newton makes

355
00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,159
Speaker 1: that throw. Great, you know, Aaron Rodgers makes it, but

356
00:17:53,200 --> 00:17:55,320
Speaker 1: not a lot of quarterbacks make that throw. All right,

357
00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,680
Speaker 1: let's move on to the seventy five thousand time a

358
00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:02,720
Speaker 1: f C East champion England Patriots, who of course are

359
00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,920
Speaker 1: preparing to have Jimmy Garoppolo as their starting quarterback for

360
00:18:06,960 --> 00:18:09,719
Speaker 1: the first four weeks of the season. Tom Brady did

361
00:18:09,800 --> 00:18:13,840
Speaker 1: not play in this game. Uh. Garoppolo did, Uh didn't

362
00:18:13,880 --> 00:18:15,960
Speaker 1: do a lot, but didn't do poorly either, just kind

363
00:18:16,000 --> 00:18:19,280
Speaker 1: of existed. I can't figure Jimmy Garoppolo out. There are

364
00:18:19,359 --> 00:18:22,240
Speaker 1: some things he does pretty well. There's nothing that he's

365
00:18:22,320 --> 00:18:25,120
Speaker 1: terrible out. I wasn't really impressed with his pocket presence.

366
00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,600
Speaker 1: He's never gonna throw down the field. It was okay,

367
00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:31,520
Speaker 1: but it doesn't I don't feel good about the Patriots

368
00:18:31,560 --> 00:18:33,840
Speaker 1: with him in the lineup. They also had some issues

369
00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:35,680
Speaker 1: to a receiver. They were missing a lot of guys

370
00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,200
Speaker 1: justeing their top three receivers. And then probably their biggest

371
00:18:39,240 --> 00:18:42,399
Speaker 1: takeaway the game is there their fourth Malcolm Mitchell had

372
00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:45,560
Speaker 1: looked good elbow injury and he looked good. People by

373
00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,480
Speaker 1: the way fantasy leaguers getting in on Chris Hogan, there's

374
00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,840
Speaker 1: a reason why he hasn't had any big seasons in

375
00:18:50,920 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 1: his career. He's a role player. I think he's gonna

376
00:18:52,840 --> 00:18:54,360
Speaker 1: be a role player for this team. I don't think

377
00:18:54,359 --> 00:18:56,920
Speaker 1: he's gonna put a big number. There's an assumption and

378
00:18:57,080 --> 00:18:59,879
Speaker 1: it's founded in a lot of success the guys of

379
00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:02,680
Speaker 1: had that if you go to New England, they bring

380
00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,200
Speaker 1: the best out of you, So that I think that

381
00:19:04,440 --> 00:19:06,560
Speaker 1: obviously what people are basing it off. But and work

382
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,000
Speaker 1: for Chad Johnson or Joey Galloway, but I think that

383
00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,280
Speaker 1: I think the best for him could be you know,

384
00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:14,560
Speaker 1: seven hundred yards and he's helping a great team and

385
00:19:14,800 --> 00:19:18,040
Speaker 1: you know right, and he's helping some special teamers. But

386
00:19:18,119 --> 00:19:20,359
Speaker 1: Malcolm Mitchell, to me, had a higher ceiling, so that

387
00:19:20,440 --> 00:19:22,680
Speaker 1: could hurt them. I'm with you on Garoppolo. That's why

388
00:19:22,920 --> 00:19:26,239
Speaker 1: when I did this watchability rankings, uh peace looking at

389
00:19:26,280 --> 00:19:28,480
Speaker 1: the preseason what teams to watch in the preseason, and

390
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:30,280
Speaker 1: I didn't want to put the paths too high because

391
00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:32,760
Speaker 1: of Garoppolo just because I feel like I've seen Garoppolo

392
00:19:32,880 --> 00:19:34,159
Speaker 1: in the preseason. I want to see him in the

393
00:19:34,200 --> 00:19:36,840
Speaker 1: regular season. But I'm with you, um, he doesn't like

394
00:19:36,920 --> 00:19:38,600
Speaker 1: get you going. But I think he could just be

395
00:19:39,000 --> 00:19:41,320
Speaker 1: good enough that he kind of keeps He just doesn't.

396
00:19:42,040 --> 00:19:43,960
Speaker 1: I think it's good that you guys are even saying this,

397
00:19:44,160 --> 00:19:46,320
Speaker 1: because I don't I'm not hearing. I think a lot

398
00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,239
Speaker 1: of people are under the assumption that the Patriots are

399
00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,119
Speaker 1: just gonna cruise in Garoppolo because of the pedigree and

400
00:19:52,160 --> 00:19:54,200
Speaker 1: where he's coming from. He's gonna step in the lineup

401
00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,080
Speaker 1: and take care of business. But we don't really, we

402
00:19:57,200 --> 00:20:00,360
Speaker 1: still don't have any evidence that the guy can play yet. Yeah,

403
00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,680
Speaker 1: I don't think that's going to happen. You have to

404
00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:04,639
Speaker 1: keep in mind he wasn't playing with Gronk and Julian

405
00:20:04,720 --> 00:20:07,359
Speaker 1: Edelman and Amndola, right and Nate Solda looked terrible. To me.

406
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:09,440
Speaker 1: That was that was a bear concern because he's coming

407
00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,239
Speaker 1: off a terrible year last year. Uh, and you kind

408
00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,879
Speaker 1: of think he'll bounce back. He's in the middle of

409
00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,400
Speaker 1: his career. I also give the hope that he's gonna

410
00:20:16,440 --> 00:20:18,399
Speaker 1: look better in the regular seat. That's the thing about

411
00:20:18,400 --> 00:20:22,399
Speaker 1: the preseason. It's just it's different football. So I don't know.

412
00:20:22,560 --> 00:20:25,240
Speaker 1: Maybe he'll react well to playing in in real games,

413
00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:27,399
Speaker 1: but I've seen him a lot in the preseason. Be

414
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 1: remiss if we didn't talk about Michael Toms. I'm so

415
00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:33,280
Speaker 1: excited about Michael Thomas. Baby, all right, let's do That's

416
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:38,280
Speaker 1: what I was so excited. I'm stepping right in. But

417
00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:41,600
Speaker 1: just thank god the Saints have somebody else that can

418
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,119
Speaker 1: catch passes on that team because Drew Brees last year

419
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:46,119
Speaker 1: he threw for so many yards, but he was throwing

420
00:20:46,200 --> 00:20:50,080
Speaker 1: to like Brandon Cooks and who else, Benjamin Watson. Yeah,

421
00:20:50,160 --> 00:20:52,639
Speaker 1: so this guy, he really looks like he could be good. Now,

422
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:55,000
Speaker 1: this might be one of those preseason hives where he

423
00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,160
Speaker 1: gets drafted too high in fantasy and people think he's

424
00:20:57,200 --> 00:20:58,760
Speaker 1: going to be really great, But he was the fourth

425
00:20:58,840 --> 00:21:01,480
Speaker 1: option out there right last night, and he's going to

426
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:05,639
Speaker 1: be higher than that. Well, and he's confirming that's what

427
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:07,320
Speaker 1: you like out of the preseason. It's kind of like

428
00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:11,280
Speaker 1: how people treat the combine for the draft. You kind

429
00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:13,960
Speaker 1: of want to see it confirm what you think about

430
00:21:14,000 --> 00:21:17,560
Speaker 1: a player, and Michael Thomas has been among the buzziest

431
00:21:17,920 --> 00:21:20,119
Speaker 1: players in the league, and so for him to have

432
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:23,280
Speaker 1: a couple of big highlight reel grabs and four catches

433
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,560
Speaker 1: and big production. I think it's taken them so long

434
00:21:26,680 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 1: to get a nice young nucleus around Drew Brees again,

435
00:21:29,359 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 1: and now they have it because Cooks is good and

436
00:21:32,720 --> 00:21:35,239
Speaker 1: and Brandon Coleman doesn't need to have a big role.

437
00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,320
Speaker 1: Steeds a good player, like they have a great little

438
00:21:37,400 --> 00:21:39,480
Speaker 1: running a great running back group. It's a nice offense

439
00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 1: around Breeze. Now, my takeaway from Michael Thomas was he's

440
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,640
Speaker 1: they've been saying a long He's gonna step right into

441
00:21:45,640 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: the Marcus Colston rule. And for years Marcus Coulston was

442
00:21:48,520 --> 00:21:51,480
Speaker 1: the biggest slot receiver in the NFL. Michael Thomas is

443
00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:55,000
Speaker 1: making these plays down the side, he's playing outside the numbers. Yeah,

444
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:58,480
Speaker 1: he looks like a much more explosive player than Colston.

445
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:07,680
Speaker 1: Big up to eight Grossest Sports Injuries Power Rankings. Wow,

446
00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 1: this is an update from a few years ago. I

447
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 1: think last augusta UH last year's ranking dislocated elbow, which

448
00:22:16,000 --> 00:22:19,359
Speaker 1: poor Malcolm Mitchell suffered of course on Thursday Night. UH

449
00:22:19,440 --> 00:22:23,480
Speaker 1: last year ranked number five. Dislocated elbow. It is flipping

450
00:22:23,600 --> 00:22:28,080
Speaker 1: spots with number four last year collapsed slash, punctured lung.

451
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,119
Speaker 1: So punctured lung drops to five. The top three remain

452
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,800
Speaker 1: the same. Number three, ruptured achilles tendon. Number two muscle

453
00:22:35,880 --> 00:22:39,800
Speaker 1: torn from bone. Number one, compound fracture. This is disgusting.

454
00:22:39,920 --> 00:22:42,639
Speaker 1: Compound fracture, you know, dominant in that number one. So

455
00:22:42,760 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 1: Katie Ladeckie like, yeah, okay, moving on Carson Wentz, let's

456
00:22:50,080 --> 00:22:53,399
Speaker 1: talk a little Wentz. Mark Sessler wrote about Wentz uh

457
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,760
Speaker 1: his debut with the Eagles, the number two overall pick

458
00:22:57,080 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: in the draft. Of course, um workman like show some things.

459
00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:03,040
Speaker 1: According to Mark, one thing that jumped out to me, guys,

460
00:23:03,320 --> 00:23:04,840
Speaker 1: I don't know if you guys got a chance to

461
00:23:04,880 --> 00:23:07,879
Speaker 1: watch Wentz yet, but uh Pro Football Focus noted that

462
00:23:07,960 --> 00:23:11,320
Speaker 1: he had a zero point zero passer rating. Uh drop

463
00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 1: backs under pressure, So uh, you know that's a that's

464
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 1: a classic thing that rookies have to deal with in

465
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:20,080
Speaker 1: all quarterbacks. But obviously another work in progress there. I

466
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:21,960
Speaker 1: kind of wish Mark was here because I don't want

467
00:23:21,960 --> 00:23:24,119
Speaker 1: to pick on him, but I saw a different game

468
00:23:24,160 --> 00:23:25,960
Speaker 1: than he saw. When I read what he wrote, he

469
00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,320
Speaker 1: saw a guy with a lot of talent and athletic ability.

470
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,359
Speaker 1: I saw that too, But I saw a guy who's

471
00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,920
Speaker 1: mechanics are a mess. His footwork is awful. It reminds

472
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,199
Speaker 1: me of playing um Blake Bortles from Blake Bortles August

473
00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:41,639
Speaker 1: of his rookie year played really well because Jordan Palmer

474
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:44,920
Speaker 1: had worked with his mechanics. But Tom House, the great

475
00:23:45,000 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: quarterback Guru, has always said every game of the year,

476
00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:50,680
Speaker 1: a quarterback loses one percent of his mechanics, and I

477
00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:53,399
Speaker 1: think Blake Bortles probably lost five percent every game is

478
00:23:53,480 --> 00:23:57,159
Speaker 1: rookie year. That's what Wentz looked like to me. The

479
00:23:57,280 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: past protection was so bad though that it was tough

480
00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,480
Speaker 1: he had even when he was standing in His footwork

481
00:24:02,600 --> 00:24:04,680
Speaker 1: was like Cam Newton's footwell. There was only a couple

482
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,000
Speaker 1: of plays where he in in mayok At one point

483
00:24:07,080 --> 00:24:09,840
Speaker 1: Mike Mayak, who was announcing the game, really asked for

484
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:11,440
Speaker 1: He wanted to see him to stand in there and

485
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:13,399
Speaker 1: throw a ball from the pocket where he had a

486
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,320
Speaker 1: second to throw it. There's only a couple of throws

487
00:24:15,320 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 1: I got now they weren't that accurate. That was what

488
00:24:16,920 --> 00:24:19,080
Speaker 1: worried me more. But he's more like Jake Locker where

489
00:24:19,080 --> 00:24:21,359
Speaker 1: he's better throwing on the run. I talked to a

490
00:24:21,480 --> 00:24:24,520
Speaker 1: GM who said that when he was evaluating both him

491
00:24:24,840 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 1: and um Golf and some of the other quarterbacks, he

492
00:24:28,080 --> 00:24:31,400
Speaker 1: said that he was really impressed with Carson Wentz's mind,

493
00:24:31,520 --> 00:24:33,240
Speaker 1: that he's really, really smart, and he's one of the

494
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:36,000
Speaker 1: smartest quarterbacks he ever Matt And talked to. But he

495
00:24:36,119 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: said that his accuracy, especially on deep balls, is really

496
00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:41,680
Speaker 1: off and really needs to improve. I think it does

497
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:44,720
Speaker 1: you know where the sun rises. I think it will

498
00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:47,520
Speaker 1: be a few years before we see that completion right

499
00:24:47,560 --> 00:24:50,399
Speaker 1: out of Carson. I think we should be very I

500
00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,480
Speaker 1: think we've got to be hesitating. Like I I really

501
00:24:52,840 --> 00:24:55,320
Speaker 1: held off even tweeting something about him because I didn't

502
00:24:55,320 --> 00:24:57,800
Speaker 1: want to have a hot takeoff of a couple of quarters.

503
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 1: But I think mechanics are different. But you don't know

504
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,560
Speaker 1: what's going through his mind, Like like everything going through

505
00:25:04,640 --> 00:25:06,680
Speaker 1: these guys mind at this point is different than it

506
00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:08,920
Speaker 1: will be even in a month. I get and that

507
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:11,040
Speaker 1: can and I think he has a future. I think

508
00:25:11,080 --> 00:25:13,080
Speaker 1: he's he's got a lot of Big Ben he's got

509
00:25:13,119 --> 00:25:15,520
Speaker 1: a lot of Andrew Luck and Blake Bortles to his game.

510
00:25:15,960 --> 00:25:17,600
Speaker 1: But I think if you look at his mechanics, you

511
00:25:17,640 --> 00:25:20,120
Speaker 1: can see that it's gonna be a long process. When

512
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,520
Speaker 1: I watched that, I watched him and I thought Cam Newton,

513
00:25:23,080 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 1: That's what I thought. Newton because his first of all,

514
00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:30,960
Speaker 1: his rookie preseason, if we wanted to bring it back

515
00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,000
Speaker 1: to that, people were losing their minds because he looked

516
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:37,320
Speaker 1: terrible and he was inaccurate, and he didn't look like

517
00:25:37,520 --> 00:25:38,879
Speaker 1: the speed of the game looked too much for him.

518
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: And then he showed up in Week one and he played.

519
00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:43,159
Speaker 1: He played well. He had a nice rookie season, but

520
00:25:43,280 --> 00:25:45,600
Speaker 1: he could make an unblocked defender miss. I mean, he's

521
00:25:45,640 --> 00:25:48,240
Speaker 1: so athletic. You could see you could see the arm strength.

522
00:25:48,560 --> 00:25:51,120
Speaker 1: He got beat up and and he like Cam Newton,

523
00:25:51,160 --> 00:25:52,720
Speaker 1: he just kind of like he'll get beat up and

524
00:25:52,800 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 1: just stand there and take it almost maybe to a fault.

525
00:25:55,200 --> 00:25:57,440
Speaker 1: We'll have to see. I think we're agreeing here, Yeah,

526
00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: now we are. He's got he's got a major upside,

527
00:26:00,000 --> 00:26:02,880
Speaker 1: but he's raw. And Cam Newton still until the last

528
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:05,439
Speaker 1: eight games last year, was never a really good passer.

529
00:26:06,600 --> 00:26:08,680
Speaker 1: Um what other quarterback from that game? By the way,

530
00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:11,240
Speaker 1: I was watching it downstairs before we came up. You know,

531
00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:15,320
Speaker 1: we hear about this guy every every offseason. Where's Mike

532
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,680
Speaker 1: Lennon going? Where is he? Such as stud uh you

533
00:26:18,720 --> 00:26:21,000
Speaker 1: want to talk about bad footwork? Every throw I sew

534
00:26:21,080 --> 00:26:23,160
Speaker 1: and is watching downstairs, he's thrown off his back foot

535
00:26:23,160 --> 00:26:26,840
Speaker 1: through a terrible interception. Mike Lennon both of those reason

536
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,280
Speaker 1: hasn't been traded yet. It's better off him just being

537
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,919
Speaker 1: the backup that everybody talks about. There there half the ceiling.

538
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:35,000
Speaker 1: There has to be a level of it's it's only

539
00:26:35,080 --> 00:26:37,840
Speaker 1: the preseason. You can't you get get too carried away.

540
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 1: But I think the Eagles offensive line, which we talked

541
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:41,680
Speaker 1: about last year, there's gotta be a little bit of

542
00:26:41,720 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: concern that they don't have depth at tackle, that it's

543
00:26:44,600 --> 00:26:46,600
Speaker 1: a big drop off with Lane Johnson out, and that

544
00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,680
Speaker 1: showed up and I think Tampa should be excited. And

545
00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: again it's just it's just the preseason. But Noah Spence

546
00:26:53,600 --> 00:26:55,800
Speaker 1: has earned a starting job right off the bat, and

547
00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,520
Speaker 1: he looks like the pass he looks like he's gonna

548
00:26:58,520 --> 00:27:00,960
Speaker 1: be a good player. Robert Airs who people on Twitter,

549
00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,080
Speaker 1: A couple of guys on Twitter like, oh, Robert Airs,

550
00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:04,520
Speaker 1: he had one good. Robert has been good for a

551
00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:07,800
Speaker 1: few years. Robert air Spence and McCoy. That's three good players.

552
00:27:07,840 --> 00:27:10,480
Speaker 1: And Lavonte David if he gets back to being Lavonte David,

553
00:27:10,840 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: suddenly that Bucks defense pretty good. By the way, did

554
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,399
Speaker 1: you hear the crowd go wild for once when he

555
00:27:16,440 --> 00:27:22,080
Speaker 1: came in Philadelphia? I think they I think their receivers

556
00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,920
Speaker 1: might be you know, if when Jordan Matthews isn't on

557
00:27:25,000 --> 00:27:27,280
Speaker 1: the field, that's the worst receiver group. And it's terrible,

558
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:31,080
Speaker 1: not even close. Chase Daniel looked terrible. L A rams

559
00:27:31,119 --> 00:27:32,879
Speaker 1: Are like, what about us? No, I mean, that's what

560
00:27:32,920 --> 00:27:34,840
Speaker 1: I mean. If you take Matthews off the field, it's

561
00:27:34,880 --> 00:27:37,720
Speaker 1: not even close. There. They were getting excited about Ruben Randall.

562
00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:41,040
Speaker 1: They really need al Aglare to step up, and there's

563
00:27:41,080 --> 00:27:44,200
Speaker 1: been no indication just from the reports in mayok talking

564
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,920
Speaker 1: for instance last night, that he's going to uh, let's

565
00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:51,920
Speaker 1: move on the Washington Redskins at Atlanta Falcons and Greg

566
00:27:51,960 --> 00:27:54,960
Speaker 1: you uh a little bit of concern about the backfield there.

567
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:57,520
Speaker 1: Matt Jones and Keith Marshall seven carries and did not

568
00:27:57,600 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: get a single yard. Yeah, you don't want to get

569
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,760
Speaker 1: too crazy. It was more of their offensive line. Guy

570
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,040
Speaker 1: like that, Greg, You're offering that qualifier every single time

571
00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:09,200
Speaker 1: we we're with Okay, okay, we're talking about the games. Yeah. Yeah,

572
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,480
Speaker 1: I wanted to see Keith Marshall because we we've heard

573
00:28:11,480 --> 00:28:13,920
Speaker 1: about him and you know, he had negative yard on

574
00:28:14,160 --> 00:28:16,160
Speaker 1: five carries. There was no room for him or Matt

575
00:28:16,280 --> 00:28:19,280
Speaker 1: Jones uh to run. But I'd like to flip it

576
00:28:19,320 --> 00:28:20,639
Speaker 1: the other way and just give some credit to the

577
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:26,480
Speaker 1: Falcons defense. I like that young linebacker duo of Jones

578
00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 1: and Devondre Campbell, that there's suddenly a faster, faster group

579
00:28:30,720 --> 00:28:33,000
Speaker 1: and those guys are gonna start and they're just gonna

580
00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:34,800
Speaker 1: look different, and you have Keano Neil in the back.

581
00:28:34,840 --> 00:28:36,959
Speaker 1: It's just it's something to watch that they suddenly got

582
00:28:37,040 --> 00:28:39,600
Speaker 1: these speedy guys that they think can play right away,

583
00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:41,920
Speaker 1: and they've been talked up a lot in camp, and

584
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,080
Speaker 1: again it was confirmed. They had a great game and

585
00:28:44,120 --> 00:28:46,080
Speaker 1: they were flying around the field. That was my main

586
00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 1: takeaway from this game. Dion Jones and Devandre Campbell to

587
00:28:48,680 --> 00:28:53,120
Speaker 1: two rookie linebackers, because Brooks Read and Paul Warlow are

588
00:28:53,320 --> 00:28:56,040
Speaker 1: decent starters, but you're gonna have a blow average defense.

589
00:28:56,080 --> 00:28:58,560
Speaker 1: If those guys are in your lineup, If Dion Jones

590
00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:00,640
Speaker 1: and Devondre Campbell have a chance to start and being

591
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:03,160
Speaker 1: improvement as rookies, like Greg said, they're gonna be a

592
00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:11,400
Speaker 1: lot faster. Sho looked good. Everybody at shop. Aldrick Robinson

593
00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 1: deep ball is the is the most effective play of

594
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,880
Speaker 1: the night. Like himself when we were watching it Downstair,

595
00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,560
Speaker 1: I literally was trash talking West and West wasn't even

596
00:29:19,640 --> 00:29:22,240
Speaker 1: in the office. I was like shop throwing that to

597
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,080
Speaker 1: stick it in your eye. West. It's like he's back.

598
00:29:25,200 --> 00:29:27,239
Speaker 1: He's been working on that shoulder. I don't know one

599
00:29:27,280 --> 00:29:29,280
Speaker 1: of those throws that question. His arm is stronger than

600
00:29:29,320 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 1: it was two years ago in Raiders camp. Yeah, but

601
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 1: that happened. Even sticking in your ear, sticking in his eye,

602
00:29:36,320 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 1: that's when you're really sticking in to someone. UM. All right,

603
00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:44,880
Speaker 1: let's talk about the Baltimore Ravens who UM knocked off

604
00:29:45,040 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 1: the defending NFC champion Carolina Panthers nineteen A M and

605
00:29:50,160 --> 00:29:55,280
Speaker 1: T Bank Stadium guys. But Terence West, who Uh, people

606
00:29:55,280 --> 00:29:57,680
Speaker 1: are bullish about this guy in this room. Uh, he

607
00:29:57,920 --> 00:30:01,280
Speaker 1: looked very good in this game. Um had some moments

608
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: where he looked explosive. Score twice West, you're excited. Well,

609
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:06,600
Speaker 1: I want to see the next two weeks. But he's

610
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,560
Speaker 1: still on track. He looked better than his numbers would suggest.

611
00:30:09,600 --> 00:30:12,240
Speaker 1: I thought he was very decisive, put one foot in

612
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 1: the ground, got up field. I thought he was the best,

613
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 1: the most impressive running back I saw Thursday night. M hmm,

614
00:30:19,000 --> 00:30:21,080
Speaker 1: that's a bold statement, but yeah, that makes sense. He

615
00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:22,920
Speaker 1: had about three or four runs that were really good.

616
00:30:23,000 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 1: I mean again, it was it's continuing to theme. A

617
00:30:26,480 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 1: guy that that's lit up camp lighting up the preseason,

618
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,640
Speaker 1: shows some power. I also like Kenneth Dixon me too,

619
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,920
Speaker 1: big guy uh downhill broke tackles on three or four runs.

620
00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:37,240
Speaker 1: There was a run in the fourth quarter. And this

621
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: is where it's tricky because you're playing against third teamers,

622
00:30:39,760 --> 00:30:41,640
Speaker 1: but a big guy in the hole with some quick

623
00:30:41,720 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: feet that made people miss and I and I suddenly thought,

624
00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 1: you know what, the Ravens are buying a running back.

625
00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:49,080
Speaker 1: I think they're gonna feel like they're fine Between West

626
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:51,080
Speaker 1: and you have Dixon as a guy on on the

627
00:30:51,120 --> 00:30:53,280
Speaker 1: goal line that you'll probably work in and who knows

628
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:55,520
Speaker 1: what four set's gonna give you in your fine Buck

629
00:30:55,560 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: Allen should be either Buck Allen is the best wide

630
00:30:58,080 --> 00:31:00,040
Speaker 1: receiver or best receiver in that group. He's just a

631
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:02,680
Speaker 1: much better receiver than runner. Yeah, and it can only

632
00:31:02,760 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 1: help Joe Flacco to coming off that injury, to have

633
00:31:05,160 --> 00:31:07,760
Speaker 1: such a nice deep backfield. Well, it makes me think

634
00:31:07,800 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: for sets that there's a chance for set doesn't make

635
00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: the team then depending on how healthy he is, because

636
00:31:12,280 --> 00:31:15,200
Speaker 1: if you've got two young guys playing that well. Other

637
00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,959
Speaker 1: John Harball said he looked like Justin Forsett pre injury.

638
00:31:18,040 --> 00:31:20,440
Speaker 1: And you know, Hardball has been effusive in his praise

639
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,200
Speaker 1: of foresaid he didn't even play, which suggests he's locked in.

640
00:31:23,360 --> 00:31:25,960
Speaker 1: But we'll see. I thought it stood out that the

641
00:31:26,080 --> 00:31:28,959
Speaker 1: depth in the backfield compared to Carolina, which if Jonathan

642
00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:32,120
Speaker 1: Stewart goes down there in trouble. Yeah. Finally, let's head

643
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:34,880
Speaker 1: to the Meadowlands where the New York Jets open their

644
00:31:35,240 --> 00:31:38,000
Speaker 1: preseason slate against the Jaguars. And it was the one

645
00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:42,080
Speaker 1: year anniversary of the punch I k and and Polly

646
00:31:42,480 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: knocking out Gino Smith. Gen Know on the field actually

647
00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: gets booed by his home fans for when he throws

648
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,360
Speaker 1: a couple of in completions to start. But you know, oh, great,

649
00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: great job, Jets fans booing the guy who gets punched

650
00:31:54,840 --> 00:31:57,560
Speaker 1: punched out, that was your starting quarterback. He was never

651
00:31:57,640 --> 00:32:00,840
Speaker 1: the starting quarterback, you know, going into Lessie he was

652
00:32:01,280 --> 00:32:04,840
Speaker 1: the favorite. He was the favorite. You know, he's been

653
00:32:07,800 --> 00:32:11,400
Speaker 1: He's already had a much better career than Christian Hackenberg

654
00:32:11,560 --> 00:32:14,360
Speaker 1: or Bright's Teddy ever will and they're booing the crap

655
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:16,640
Speaker 1: out of him, and they probably loved those. There's no nothing,

656
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:20,320
Speaker 1: there's no much better career than anyone. He's been terrible. Greg,

657
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:22,720
Speaker 1: still on this hill, You'll die on this hill. This

658
00:32:22,920 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: is what Greg wrote and is what we learned in fact,

659
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: which I actually enjoyed it. Uh, after getting booed, he

660
00:32:29,920 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 1: bounced back to throw a go ahead seventeen yard touched

661
00:32:33,000 --> 00:32:36,040
Speaker 1: him because that's what Gino Smith does. That had to

662
00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,120
Speaker 1: be tongue in cheek, right, What do you mean like

663
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: he's like known as some type of warrior in the

664
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:43,920
Speaker 1: face of adversity? You know, sometimes you you have little

665
00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:47,240
Speaker 1: running jokes to yourself every every time, every time I

666
00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: write about Gino Smith on our website, I allude to

667
00:32:50,320 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 1: his greatness. Make sure all right, now I'm with you now.

668
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 1: I liked it. Um On the other side of ball,

669
00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:59,040
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson stud uh looked amazing and d Milner's gonna

670
00:32:59,040 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 1: have nightmares. I couldn't even get mad at Tamail. He

671
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,760
Speaker 1: misplayed one ball on a on a deep ball where

672
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 1: he could have probably played it more aggressively, But in general,

673
00:33:07,160 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: Allen Robinson didn't look like he could be covered. Mark's

674
00:33:09,840 --> 00:33:12,720
Speaker 1: Lee made an amazing catch down the sideline, Blake Bortles

675
00:33:12,800 --> 00:33:15,240
Speaker 1: was spinning it. That offense looked really good. I loved

676
00:33:15,280 --> 00:33:17,600
Speaker 1: their first team offensive. Blake Blake Bortles seemed more in

677
00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:19,960
Speaker 1: control than he did last year too. And then the

678
00:33:20,080 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 1: Ivory yelled in tag team. It's good when Ivory doesn't

679
00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:26,600
Speaker 1: have to carry the ball. The best time for Ivory. Yeah,

680
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,680
Speaker 1: from now until in November, you're gonna get one of

681
00:33:28,680 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: the best running backs. Well, they signed him with the

682
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:33,560
Speaker 1: right idea. Don't make him your workhorse, make him a

683
00:33:33,600 --> 00:33:36,520
Speaker 1: committee back. I like everything about this offense, and I

684
00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:38,440
Speaker 1: think it was the right idea for yelled in too,

685
00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: who's good but not great? You know, I don't think

686
00:33:42,040 --> 00:33:45,520
Speaker 1: you need to give him three fifty touches and uh

687
00:33:45,960 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: back to the Jets. QBS. Ryan Fitzpatrick knocked the rust

688
00:33:49,320 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 1: off a little bit there through a touchdown, didn't have

689
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:53,880
Speaker 1: a turnover, so I was good to see. I think

690
00:33:53,920 --> 00:33:56,200
Speaker 1: that this year I'm pretty high on them too. I

691
00:33:56,320 --> 00:33:59,479
Speaker 1: think that they looked really good yesterday. Yeah they did they.

692
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:02,200
Speaker 1: I mean they the Jets defense look like but they couldn't.

693
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: They could not stop that first team. Um so yeah,

694
00:34:06,760 --> 00:34:09,480
Speaker 1: I mean I've been vocal is let me see Blake

695
00:34:09,520 --> 00:34:12,239
Speaker 1: Bortles really put it all together and uh he led

696
00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,560
Speaker 1: the league in interceptions last year. But what I saw

697
00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:16,799
Speaker 1: yesterday that was pretty scary. You gotta be excited if

698
00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: you're a Jags fan. You can't have a newcomer come

699
00:34:20,120 --> 00:34:24,160
Speaker 1: in and steal a show, all right. So there you go.

700
00:34:24,360 --> 00:34:28,040
Speaker 1: Good recap of Thursday's action. When we come back the

701
00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,799
Speaker 1: next show on Monday, we will talk about the rest

702
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:34,040
Speaker 1: of the games from the weekend, so make sure you

703
00:34:34,239 --> 00:34:36,640
Speaker 1: tune in for that. Let's move on now, guys and

704
00:34:36,719 --> 00:34:42,239
Speaker 1: talk about ESPNS QB rankings. I think they had a

705
00:34:42,280 --> 00:34:45,120
Speaker 1: fancy title for it. Should I respect them and find

706
00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: out what the fancy title? Sandoz Day of Dominance, QB

707
00:34:48,800 --> 00:34:51,520
Speaker 1: Tier rankings, QUB tear rankings, Thank you. And that's a

708
00:34:51,600 --> 00:34:54,160
Speaker 1: great way to get into it, Connie Fox, because let

709
00:34:54,200 --> 00:34:57,920
Speaker 1: me break down the Tears. They break it into uh

710
00:34:58,360 --> 00:35:02,359
Speaker 1: four tiers, UH, and these are what the Tears were.

711
00:35:03,520 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 1: Tier one quarterbacks can carry their teams week after week

712
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,439
Speaker 1: and contend for championships without as much help. And only

713
00:35:11,520 --> 00:35:15,480
Speaker 1: three quarterbacks in that tier, uh, Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers.

714
00:35:15,520 --> 00:35:18,960
Speaker 1: I want a cop out tied for first Big Bend

715
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,239
Speaker 1: number three, and I believe big Ben uh moves up

716
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,319
Speaker 1: to the first tier from the second tier last year.

717
00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:27,200
Speaker 1: And it's important this again is coming from coaches and

718
00:35:27,320 --> 00:35:31,080
Speaker 1: front office officials, UH, and they have only three guys

719
00:35:31,280 --> 00:35:34,479
Speaker 1: viewed as the cream of the crop. Greg your thoughts

720
00:35:34,520 --> 00:35:39,040
Speaker 1: on that, Well, I love this late career appreciation of

721
00:35:39,200 --> 00:35:42,040
Speaker 1: just how good Ben Roth is is and it it

722
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 1: took him getting the right coach and talent and stats

723
00:35:45,600 --> 00:35:48,080
Speaker 1: where I I really think he's been close to this

724
00:35:48,239 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: type of tier throughout his career, that he's been that good,

725
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:53,719
Speaker 1: and they've had different offenses, he's gotten even better. And

726
00:35:53,880 --> 00:35:56,480
Speaker 1: and that's kind of my my takeaway looking at that tier.

727
00:35:56,760 --> 00:35:59,839
Speaker 1: My takeaway was just reading the comments, you know, last year,

728
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,400
Speaker 1: and I remember at the end of the year, Greg

729
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:03,720
Speaker 1: and I would tweet how great Big Ben was playing,

730
00:36:04,280 --> 00:36:07,520
Speaker 1: and people would point to his interceptions. Mike Sanders said,

731
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,080
Speaker 1: every out of the forty two coaches and executives he

732
00:36:10,160 --> 00:36:13,000
Speaker 1: talked to, there wasn't one complaint about his interceptions because

733
00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:15,040
Speaker 1: they knew how well he was throwing the ball. That

734
00:36:15,160 --> 00:36:17,480
Speaker 1: he can make any throw on the field. And here's

735
00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,360
Speaker 1: a quote from a quarterbacks coach. He is a stud.

736
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:22,799
Speaker 1: He does some that is just off the map, right.

737
00:36:23,000 --> 00:36:24,839
Speaker 1: There are some things that fall apart and he gets

738
00:36:24,880 --> 00:36:27,239
Speaker 1: off schedule, and that guy just makes plays. He has

739
00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,440
Speaker 1: a hose. He is huge, He is so hard to

740
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 1: bring down. He's competitive, he is gritty, he is smart.

741
00:36:32,440 --> 00:36:34,720
Speaker 1: We played him the past year and our defense struggled

742
00:36:34,760 --> 00:36:36,800
Speaker 1: that day because of him. That guy can win for

743
00:36:36,920 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: you every week. Can I throw? And I love Big

744
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 1: Ben as well, but one bit of uh, you know what,

745
00:36:43,280 --> 00:36:54,440
Speaker 1: you would call it devils the hat his splits. Last year,

746
00:36:54,520 --> 00:36:58,600
Speaker 1: he was very mortal without Martavis Bryant. Uh, statistically last

747
00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,520
Speaker 1: year that will heard him. I mean, as good as

748
00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 1: he is. That guy was a superstar. Breakout superstar. Not

749
00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 1: gonna happen for the entire year. If you're saying that

750
00:37:07,680 --> 00:37:10,200
Speaker 1: Tier one is can carry his team each week and

751
00:37:10,280 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: the team wins because of him. Why isn't Cam Newton

752
00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:15,440
Speaker 1: in there? Based on what he was able to do

753
00:37:15,600 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: last year? I think the key word part of their

754
00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:21,680
Speaker 1: description for Tier one was consistency, and their complaint was

755
00:37:21,840 --> 00:37:23,600
Speaker 1: in the first half of the season he was a

756
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 1: poor passer. It wasn't until the second half of the

757
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:29,200
Speaker 1: season that he started passing better than he could be

758
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:30,719
Speaker 1: at the top of this list if he does what

759
00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:32,320
Speaker 1: he did last year in the second half, and I

760
00:37:32,400 --> 00:37:35,040
Speaker 1: think that's what everybody would agree on. UM. Now, tier

761
00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,920
Speaker 1: two and just so you guys know, UH, two quarterbacks

762
00:37:37,960 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 1: from last year on this list dropped out of that

763
00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: Tier one, Drew Brees and Andrew Luck. Here's Tier two,

764
00:37:43,360 --> 00:37:46,040
Speaker 1: which is fourth through fifteen and this should make us

765
00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:48,080
Speaker 1: all proud at the Round the NFL podcast. Who was

766
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:52,120
Speaker 1: the last guy in Tier two? Cam Newton? Uh, Drew Brees,

767
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:56,879
Speaker 1: Russell Wilson, Andrew Luck, Philip Rivers eight, Eli Manning Sorry

768
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:02,560
Speaker 1: was nine, Carson Palmer ten, Tony Tony Romo, Joe Flacco,

769
00:38:02,680 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 1: Matt Ryan, Matthew Stafford fourteen interesting and Andy Dalton fifteen. UH,

770
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:10,759
Speaker 1: Colleen who jumps out at you on that list for

771
00:38:10,840 --> 00:38:14,080
Speaker 1: either uh, not belonging or should have been higher or

772
00:38:15,160 --> 00:38:18,600
Speaker 1: well I thought that. I know last year was just

773
00:38:18,880 --> 00:38:22,759
Speaker 1: sort of an anomaly for Andrew Luck, but I'm not

774
00:38:22,960 --> 00:38:25,960
Speaker 1: sure about his placement on here. I would actually put

775
00:38:26,080 --> 00:38:28,239
Speaker 1: him maybe a little bit lower. Would you put him

776
00:38:28,239 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 1: in Tier three? No? No, no, no, no, not Tier three,

777
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:33,960
Speaker 1: but just maybe maybe move him down a little bit

778
00:38:34,000 --> 00:38:35,800
Speaker 1: on the link, I should say what the tier is.

779
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:39,720
Speaker 1: I would tier two qbs are this is a quote

780
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:42,600
Speaker 1: less consistent and need more help, but good enough to

781
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:46,279
Speaker 1: figure prominently into a championship equation. That means the people

782
00:38:46,320 --> 00:38:49,520
Speaker 1: they talked to, uh, we're really bothered by Andrew lux

783
00:38:49,560 --> 00:38:54,520
Speaker 1: season last year because Carson Palmer. That's pretty high. I

784
00:38:54,520 --> 00:38:57,520
Speaker 1: would put Carson Palmer a little bit higher, and maybe

785
00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 1: that would move Andrew Luck down a little bit lower.

786
00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,360
Speaker 1: It really the way Carson Palmer played in the postseason,

787
00:39:03,560 --> 00:39:06,160
Speaker 1: I know it hurts him a lot. But and that's

788
00:39:06,200 --> 00:39:08,440
Speaker 1: what most of the negative comments came from from the

789
00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 1: executive And that makes sense. But the reason they were

790
00:39:11,560 --> 00:39:13,560
Speaker 1: so a huge part of the reason why they were

791
00:39:13,600 --> 00:39:17,399
Speaker 1: so successful was Carson Palmer. Well, let's unpack West you're

792
00:39:17,440 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 1: saying that Luck, you would have him higher. So who

793
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:23,279
Speaker 1: on the list would you rank him ahead of that

794
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,640
Speaker 1: he is below. I would take him over Cam Newton,

795
00:39:27,000 --> 00:39:30,560
Speaker 1: over Drew Brees, so both of those guys I would

796
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: have Russell hired higher too. But here's one quote from

797
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:37,879
Speaker 1: Andrew Luck that's bold. I mean, you're agreeing with everyone

798
00:39:37,920 --> 00:39:40,480
Speaker 1: else I'm writing off. Last year is an injury prone disaster.

799
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:42,680
Speaker 1: It doesn't even factor into the equation to me, So

800
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,320
Speaker 1: I understand that it does factor into other people. I

801
00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:48,239
Speaker 1: get that you're not factoring the buzz around his camp

802
00:39:48,360 --> 00:39:50,120
Speaker 1: this year, that he has been a little up and down,

803
00:39:50,200 --> 00:39:52,919
Speaker 1: which has been out there. Well, I've told you before,

804
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:55,400
Speaker 1: I don't really know if beat writers can are qualified

805
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:58,440
Speaker 1: to really weigh in on that stuff. But here's one

806
00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:00,759
Speaker 1: GMS quote. I'm much higher and Andrew Luck than a

807
00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:03,000
Speaker 1: lot of people because I think the problem with Andrew

808
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 1: Luck is all that's surrounding him sucks so bad, including

809
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,960
Speaker 1: their defense, that it impacts him as a player. There

810
00:40:09,040 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 1: are days I want to put him as a one,

811
00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:12,719
Speaker 1: but I will go high high to right now. Yeah,

812
00:40:13,239 --> 00:40:16,920
Speaker 1: I agree with all that, but and I don't. I

813
00:40:17,000 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: think he's about in the right spot. I probably I

814
00:40:19,120 --> 00:40:21,960
Speaker 1: probably have him maybe below Rivers, but that's about it.

815
00:40:22,360 --> 00:40:25,040
Speaker 1: Um So I wouldn't change him too much. But I think,

816
00:40:25,080 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 1: for instance, a Drew Brees, it makes sense right now

817
00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,919
Speaker 1: that he's ahead of him because you have seen Drew

818
00:40:31,040 --> 00:40:34,400
Speaker 1: Brees with a lot of things wrong around him, and

819
00:40:34,560 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 1: he doesn't. He's had some seasons where he's thrown more

820
00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 1: interceptions like like Andrew Luck does, and he's had some

821
00:40:40,160 --> 00:40:43,360
Speaker 1: seasons better than others, but you don't have him have

822
00:40:43,600 --> 00:40:45,960
Speaker 1: the type of stretch that Andrew Luck ever did. And

823
00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:49,400
Speaker 1: that's even before Andrew Luck reported injuries last year. And

824
00:40:49,640 --> 00:40:51,800
Speaker 1: I was about to get fired up about Matthew Stafford

825
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:54,560
Speaker 1: at fourteen and perhaps you could argue that Dalton should

826
00:40:54,560 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 1: be ahead of him or Stafford should be way lower

827
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,640
Speaker 1: than this list. But it does speak to again the

828
00:40:58,760 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 1: Dalton scale or the day Dalton line and the drop off,

829
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:05,080
Speaker 1: because here we go, let's move. I'm really surprised, let's

830
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:07,600
Speaker 1: just say it, with a Stafford's at high. I mean,

831
00:41:07,719 --> 00:41:10,719
Speaker 1: aren't you guys surprised at Stafford would crack that crack

832
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:14,000
Speaker 1: that tier. That's what I'm saying. The comments from the

833
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,560
Speaker 1: people who were interviewed was basically he was inconsistent for

834
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,799
Speaker 1: several years because the coaching was so bad, and they

835
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:23,480
Speaker 1: really like what Jim Bob Cooter did with him. Coots,

836
00:41:23,680 --> 00:41:27,600
Speaker 1: it is incredible. Uh what what Jim Bob Cooder did?

837
00:41:28,239 --> 00:41:32,200
Speaker 1: Can he do it again? Cooder? Alright? So here's Tier three. Uh,

838
00:41:32,480 --> 00:41:34,520
Speaker 1: this is labeled as quarterbacks who are good enough to

839
00:41:34,600 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: start but need lots of support, making it tougher to

840
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:39,920
Speaker 1: contend at the highest level. And you could argue Matthew

841
00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,320
Speaker 1: Stafford this far in deserves to be in that class

842
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:47,080
Speaker 1: potentially as well. Here is Tier three number sixteen, Derek

843
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: Carr seventeen, Jamis Winston, Alex Smith, Marcus Mariota, Kirk Cousins

844
00:41:52,800 --> 00:41:57,120
Speaker 1: number twenty, j Cutler twenty one, Blake Bortles two, Teddy

845
00:41:57,160 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 1: Bridgewater twenty three, Ryan Tannehill twenty four, Ryan Fitzpatrick, Tyrod Taylor,

846
00:42:03,640 --> 00:42:07,800
Speaker 1: brock Oswidler twenty seven, and rounding out that list, Sam

847
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:12,640
Speaker 1: Bradford right on the edge at number twenty eight. Collie

848
00:42:12,680 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 1: and your thoughts, I was actually just going to look

849
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:17,400
Speaker 1: up to see what Tier four meat, because I think

850
00:42:17,440 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: a lot of these guys belong in Tier four and

851
00:42:19,600 --> 00:42:22,839
Speaker 1: I'm not really sure. Yeah, what what does that mean?

852
00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:27,800
Speaker 1: Tier four is typically typically reserved were unproven starters or

853
00:42:27,880 --> 00:42:30,080
Speaker 1: those who might not be expected to last in the

854
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:34,840
Speaker 1: lineup all season. Voters used the fifth tier sparingly interesting, okay,

855
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: because how can you how can you really assess brock

856
00:42:38,200 --> 00:42:41,200
Speaker 1: Oswidler just on the sample size? How can you really

857
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:44,520
Speaker 1: put him in tier three? I think because under those

858
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:48,720
Speaker 1: um qualifications, he is going to last in the lineup

859
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,760
Speaker 1: this season, and he's seen as a long term option

860
00:42:50,800 --> 00:42:54,040
Speaker 1: even if he hasn't done Jack Well, here's who thought it.

861
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:56,520
Speaker 1: John Elway did and Rick Smith thought he was that

862
00:42:56,719 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 1: much because both of those guys were ready to make him,

863
00:42:59,520 --> 00:43:02,520
Speaker 1: you know, big time franchise quarterback offers. He wasn't he

864
00:43:02,719 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: was gonna be a sixteen game starter, and he's at

865
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,520
Speaker 1: the very bottom of it. It's tough. I think you

866
00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 1: have to keep in mind what this is really grading,

867
00:43:10,000 --> 00:43:12,799
Speaker 1: which is a snapshot of right now. It's not who

868
00:43:12,880 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: they would want to have. I don't think necessarily Mariota

869
00:43:16,080 --> 00:43:18,920
Speaker 1: would be right next to Kirk Cousins on on the

870
00:43:19,000 --> 00:43:21,040
Speaker 1: one on I wanna have list, But it's where he's

871
00:43:21,040 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 1: at in his development, and I found it interesting. Winston

872
00:43:24,640 --> 00:43:27,200
Speaker 1: is up there at seventeen, a couple of spots ahead

873
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: of Mariota, ahead of Kirk Cousins. I like that because

874
00:43:29,880 --> 00:43:33,520
Speaker 1: I'm a Winston believer. I have two major issues with

875
00:43:33,600 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: this tier. Marcus Mariota is way too low, and so

876
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 1: is Blake Bortles. And here's a quote about Mariota from

877
00:43:40,400 --> 00:43:43,399
Speaker 1: a personnel director. The games he played, you watch him.

878
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 1: He has pois, he can run. He's a very good athlete.

879
00:43:46,040 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 1: He can make all the throws. You just see a

880
00:43:47,920 --> 00:43:50,600
Speaker 1: composed player. Coverage just kind of got him at times.

881
00:43:50,680 --> 00:43:53,120
Speaker 1: He tried to force things, but those things are fixable.

882
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: He is going to be a top five quarterback in

883
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:59,920
Speaker 1: the next few years. Totally agree. I tend to agree

884
00:44:00,239 --> 00:44:02,320
Speaker 1: and think he has a good chance to do that.

885
00:44:02,680 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: And yet, man, I think there's a lot of people

886
00:44:05,800 --> 00:44:08,520
Speaker 1: in and around the league or whatever that just believe

887
00:44:08,600 --> 00:44:10,759
Speaker 1: that Mike Malarkey's gonna ruin him. I don't think that

888
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,200
Speaker 1: we're like some skeptical jerks that are just like taking

889
00:44:16,280 --> 00:44:18,560
Speaker 1: pot shots at Mike Malarkey. I think he's in a

890
00:44:18,680 --> 00:44:21,400
Speaker 1: bad situation right now and it's gonna be tough, and

891
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:26,000
Speaker 1: that's not Mariota's fault. It shouldn't please. It's absolutely the

892
00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:28,919
Speaker 1: right thing to do to establish a strong running game

893
00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 1: and a dominant offensive line and protect Mariota from getting

894
00:44:32,360 --> 00:44:34,200
Speaker 1: hit like he did last year. When Ken wizen Hunt

895
00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:36,160
Speaker 1: would call into plays, well, let's see if they can

896
00:44:36,239 --> 00:44:38,400
Speaker 1: accomplish any of that. Well, that's their plan. I think

897
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:41,240
Speaker 1: it is they They got the right bodies this offseason

898
00:44:41,320 --> 00:44:44,680
Speaker 1: to do them. I understand the skepticism about the play

899
00:44:44,719 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: calling in scheme, I guess, but I think that's a

900
00:44:47,200 --> 00:44:49,279
Speaker 1: smart thing to do to get a strong running game

901
00:44:49,320 --> 00:44:51,360
Speaker 1: and develop him and not have him taking hits. I

902
00:44:51,400 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: mean some some of the the numbers of Mike Malarkey's offenses.

903
00:44:56,239 --> 00:44:59,600
Speaker 1: I saw Chris Brown at Smart Football tweet out. I

904
00:44:59,600 --> 00:45:01,480
Speaker 1: think is last five times he's been in charge of

905
00:45:01,520 --> 00:45:04,719
Speaker 1: an offense, they ranked twenty seventh or lower in in

906
00:45:04,760 --> 00:45:07,479
Speaker 1: Football Outsiders offense something something to that effect. He's playing

907
00:45:08,160 --> 00:45:10,879
Speaker 1: football right and he literally is on the record saying

908
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 1: this is in the passing league this year. Well, look

909
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,600
Speaker 1: there's San Francisco, forty niners in Seattle. Seahawks have succeeded

910
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 1: with that mentality, as have the Carolina Panthers. I think

911
00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:22,000
Speaker 1: it really stinks to for Sam Bradford. I know that

912
00:45:22,480 --> 00:45:25,600
Speaker 1: we always sort of rip on him, but still he's

913
00:45:25,640 --> 00:45:28,560
Speaker 1: never really played with a great offensive line. He's never

914
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 1: had a great weapon to throw too, and he's gotten hurts.

915
00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,239
Speaker 1: So it's like he really is a tease. And that's

916
00:45:35,280 --> 00:45:38,120
Speaker 1: what Sando talks about in his article. Well, he's also

917
00:45:38,239 --> 00:45:43,160
Speaker 1: never played well. No this tier. Just looking at his

918
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:46,080
Speaker 1: rookie year, he had some moments right. Also, also Austin

919
00:45:46,200 --> 00:45:47,920
Speaker 1: Davis came in in his first three games and did

920
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:50,480
Speaker 1: think Sam Bradford never did. I always thought the same personnel.

921
00:45:50,560 --> 00:45:52,040
Speaker 1: I always thought his Rookie of the Year was one

922
00:45:52,040 --> 00:45:54,959
Speaker 1: of the most overrated seasons of the last five years.

923
00:45:55,040 --> 00:45:56,720
Speaker 1: He got that Rookie of the year. He was okay.

924
00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 1: I think it was his third year. He had a

925
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,480
Speaker 1: bad injury set year. He was he was solid in

926
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:04,960
Speaker 1: his third year. This tier, though, gets me thinking, like,

927
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:07,520
Speaker 1: I don't know if we have to change how we

928
00:46:07,640 --> 00:46:11,200
Speaker 1: think about how good quarterbacks are or not. But I

929
00:46:11,239 --> 00:46:13,720
Speaker 1: mean these are mostly guys we think of as pretty

930
00:46:13,719 --> 00:46:17,440
Speaker 1: good quarterbacks, pretty good numbers at the spot. I mean

931
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,080
Speaker 1: we got Blake Bortles and Bridgewater. This is why Hill

932
00:46:20,120 --> 00:46:22,120
Speaker 1: is putting up numbers. It's like you have to recalibrate

933
00:46:22,160 --> 00:46:24,640
Speaker 1: because everyone gets good numbers. Now, that's this is why

934
00:46:24,719 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 1: every November when there's injuries and everybody's talking about how

935
00:46:28,040 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 1: can you not find thirty two people who can play quarterbacks?

936
00:46:30,960 --> 00:46:33,160
Speaker 1: Is deep now, it's it's ever been. You could have

937
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:36,360
Speaker 1: the same complaints and then late late nineties, nineteen eighties

938
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,880
Speaker 1: or mid nineteen nineties, there aren't There aren't thirty two

939
00:46:38,920 --> 00:46:41,120
Speaker 1: great quarterbacks, but there's twenty five pretty good ones. And

940
00:46:41,160 --> 00:46:44,040
Speaker 1: I don't have a problem. You say number twenty five

941
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: list is my boy Ryan. Yeah, it's fine, it's fine.

942
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:49,600
Speaker 1: In fact, the head coach said of Ryan Fitzpatrick, he

943
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:51,719
Speaker 1: was with Chan Gailey and Chan is good. If he

944
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,279
Speaker 1: leaves Chan, he needs to get back to Harvard and

945
00:46:54,400 --> 00:46:57,399
Speaker 1: redo that degree and has been a football life saver.

946
00:46:57,480 --> 00:46:59,640
Speaker 1: That's all true. That's all true. And I think but

947
00:47:00,000 --> 00:47:02,480
Speaker 1: and this is also, and this is why Greg asked

948
00:47:02,480 --> 00:47:05,800
Speaker 1: the mention Harvard. That's like, yeah, this is and this

949
00:47:05,960 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 1: is why your boy Gino got booed is because Ryan

950
00:47:09,120 --> 00:47:11,840
Speaker 1: Fitzpatrick is a mention. He's a great dude. This is

951
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,480
Speaker 1: what Ryan said when I asked about being number let's

952
00:47:15,480 --> 00:47:17,680
Speaker 1: say each team puts their top three quarterbacks out there,

953
00:47:17,719 --> 00:47:20,440
Speaker 1: thirty two teams, ninety six quarterbacks, he said, and you

954
00:47:20,560 --> 00:47:22,080
Speaker 1: line us all up there in shorts, and you put

955
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,880
Speaker 1: and you put ski masks on us and have us throat.

956
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:27,759
Speaker 1: I'm gonna be in the ninety or lower percentile, I'm sure.

957
00:47:28,080 --> 00:47:30,160
Speaker 1: But I almost pride myself on that because I'm not

958
00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,760
Speaker 1: a combined guy. I'm not a guy that got recruited

959
00:47:32,800 --> 00:47:34,080
Speaker 1: out of high school. I'm not a guy that was

960
00:47:34,120 --> 00:47:36,319
Speaker 1: a first round pick. I'm not a coveted free agent.

961
00:47:36,480 --> 00:47:38,719
Speaker 1: I'm just a guy that comes in, he works my

962
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:41,520
Speaker 1: tail and tries to do my job. What a great answer.

963
00:47:42,680 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 1: That's why we wanted him back, because we love the

964
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 1: good like a little round of a flaw him surprising.

965
00:47:47,239 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 1: He didn't mentioned growing up in a coal town? Did you?

966
00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:54,080
Speaker 1: I grew up in the coal towns that I've heard that.

967
00:47:54,400 --> 00:47:55,960
Speaker 1: It wasn't easy. I'll tell you that. What was the

968
00:47:56,040 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: name of it? New York? I feel like we uh

969
00:47:59,280 --> 00:48:03,439
Speaker 1: town a friendly so not a colt from what I've heard.

970
00:48:03,800 --> 00:48:07,439
Speaker 1: By the way, Kirk cousins, any thoughts on I feel

971
00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:09,759
Speaker 1: like we have to talk because he made he's making

972
00:48:09,800 --> 00:48:13,600
Speaker 1: twenty million dollars this year makes sense to me? Oh yeah, bang,

973
00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:18,520
Speaker 1: I don't know, it feels who's here's a quote, here's

974
00:48:18,520 --> 00:48:21,719
Speaker 1: a quote, personnel pro personnel director. In my opinion, he's

975
00:48:21,800 --> 00:48:23,880
Speaker 1: kind of a manager if you get after him and

976
00:48:23,960 --> 00:48:25,520
Speaker 1: hit him. I don't know if he rises to that

977
00:48:25,640 --> 00:48:27,640
Speaker 1: challenge yet. He has to prove it to me this year.

978
00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,080
Speaker 1: I don't think he can do it by himself. Dog.

979
00:48:30,280 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: I would definitely put a defensive coordinator. Likened him to

980
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,799
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick a little bit. That sounds I think that's

981
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:38,960
Speaker 1: a good one. Well, I would put him lower than Patrick.

982
00:48:39,040 --> 00:48:43,239
Speaker 1: Takes more chance Hodler and Bordles certainly. Oh yeah, absolutely.

983
00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,000
Speaker 1: By the way, things change in the NFL very quickly.

984
00:48:47,080 --> 00:48:50,680
Speaker 1: Just another reminder, um Peyton Manning was in Tier one

985
00:48:50,760 --> 00:48:56,560
Speaker 1: last year, Nick Foles was in Tier three last year. Uh.

986
00:48:57,160 --> 00:48:59,480
Speaker 1: Cam Newton was number fourteen on this list last year.

987
00:49:00,640 --> 00:49:03,959
Speaker 1: So things change, Things change. And finally that last tire,

988
00:49:04,840 --> 00:49:07,520
Speaker 1: which is the really this is the super depressing tier.

989
00:49:08,640 --> 00:49:11,960
Speaker 1: Colin Kaepernick, once viewed as the future of the quarterback position,

990
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:15,600
Speaker 1: UH now number twenty nine. Blade Blaine Gabbert, who It's

991
00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,400
Speaker 1: gonna be a rough year in San Francisco. His his

992
00:49:18,760 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 1: competition uh in San Francisco at quarterback number thirty Mark

993
00:49:23,239 --> 00:49:26,560
Speaker 1: Sanchez thirty one, who may be the starting quarterback of

994
00:49:26,600 --> 00:49:30,200
Speaker 1: the defending Super Bowl champions r G three, the Browns

995
00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:34,880
Speaker 1: quarterback uh he the fire Medea or heading towards Brea

996
00:49:35,200 --> 00:49:39,200
Speaker 1: number thirty two and think Mark's not here at number

997
00:49:39,280 --> 00:49:44,040
Speaker 1: thirty three. The worst quarterback on this list case Keenum,

998
00:49:44,200 --> 00:49:47,280
Speaker 1: who might be the Week one starter as the Rams

999
00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:51,080
Speaker 1: try to get a foothold back in Los Angeles. That's

1000
00:49:51,120 --> 00:49:53,960
Speaker 1: why Jeff Fisher is in a bad situation. Got a

1001
00:49:54,000 --> 00:49:56,320
Speaker 1: first round tender as a restrictive free agent. That's some

1002
00:49:56,440 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 1: seven and nine. All right, good stuff, guys, good talk.

1003
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,000
Speaker 1: See Greg, you're a little nervous about that. I wasn't.

1004
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,759
Speaker 1: It wasn't at all. It was fun. It's always fun

1005
00:50:09,800 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: talking about now you're just making up. Was he a

1006
00:50:12,600 --> 00:50:14,680
Speaker 1: little bit nervous about the side quest? I don't know

1007
00:50:14,760 --> 00:50:16,840
Speaker 1: what was going on with Greg today. I was. I

1008
00:50:17,000 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 1: wasn't nervous. There were two things I hadn't seen all

1009
00:50:20,640 --> 00:50:22,399
Speaker 1: the writing of it. I wanted to, but I don't

1010
00:50:22,400 --> 00:50:25,319
Speaker 1: have ESPN insider. Second of all, I was distracted because

1011
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:29,480
Speaker 1: Katni Shakory was saving match points to make the Olympics semifinals.

1012
00:50:30,120 --> 00:50:34,960
Speaker 1: Way to go. Oh my god, I got a Dean scream. Yeah,

1013
00:50:35,040 --> 00:50:41,440
Speaker 1: thank you. Uh, congrats Greg, that's big, big win. You

1014
00:50:41,520 --> 00:50:43,000
Speaker 1: could have wore a hat today too, by the way,

1015
00:50:43,680 --> 00:50:45,239
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, do you want some of my red kindo

1016
00:50:45,360 --> 00:50:47,239
Speaker 1: in trouble right now? Have I ever seen Greg with

1017
00:50:47,320 --> 00:50:50,239
Speaker 1: a hat on? By the way, he's not a hat guy.

1018
00:50:50,320 --> 00:50:53,279
Speaker 1: Is that Redkins still in the now studio? No, they

1019
00:50:53,360 --> 00:50:55,480
Speaker 1: removed it. Almost a media I wear hats on. I

1020
00:50:55,560 --> 00:50:57,640
Speaker 1: think it was in there for like at least a

1021
00:50:57,680 --> 00:51:02,839
Speaker 1: week or two. We're not really to weekend more. Uh,

1022
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,840
Speaker 1: you hit it underneath the couch. I don't know. Maybe

1023
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,960
Speaker 1: I don't know where it is. It's just gone now. Yeah. Uh,

1024
00:51:10,200 --> 00:51:14,880
Speaker 1: DJ was DJ was maybe thinking about stealing it, swiping it.

1025
00:51:15,239 --> 00:51:19,720
Speaker 1: He could use it. D J shouldn't just cruise shot.

1026
00:51:20,000 --> 00:51:22,279
Speaker 1: We've on't talked about Sully's comments from the other day

1027
00:51:22,360 --> 00:51:25,839
Speaker 1: when DJ put out a picture on Twitter. Whoa, yeah,

1028
00:51:26,480 --> 00:51:31,279
Speaker 1: Sully through our whole podcast under the bus. I just

1029
00:51:31,480 --> 00:51:36,000
Speaker 1: I just he was. Yeah, I'm trying. I'm trying to

1030
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of what exactly I'm trying to

1031
00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: think no remember no sweating with us. Sure, let no,

1032
00:51:44,960 --> 00:51:47,160
Speaker 1: I'm trying to think of the exact gifts that were used,

1033
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: but it was it was the reference the Philips Yeah

1034
00:51:50,200 --> 00:51:53,400
Speaker 1: right when you open up moved the sticks and it's

1035
00:51:53,440 --> 00:51:57,560
Speaker 1: an A T N promo and then I uh yeah,

1036
00:51:57,719 --> 00:52:01,480
Speaker 1: yeah there was snoop doggs say and uh I like

1037
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:03,759
Speaker 1: that or something that along those. Yeah, that was that

1038
00:52:03,840 --> 00:52:08,640
Speaker 1: was great. Yeah. Yeah, good talk, good talk, great story. Yeah,

1039
00:52:08,800 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: round of applause for myself. Well, it's nice having you here.

1040
00:52:13,040 --> 00:52:15,400
Speaker 1: So it was. It was a good time. You are

1041
00:52:15,400 --> 00:52:17,960
Speaker 1: a delight. So it's like siding with Robert E. Lee

1042
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:24,879
Speaker 1: and the Civil War whatever. Uh, we will be back.

1043
00:52:26,280 --> 00:52:29,239
Speaker 1: So I was probably hit too close to home from

1044
00:52:29,280 --> 00:52:34,160
Speaker 1: the south. We will be back on Monday. Colleen. Thank

1045
00:52:34,239 --> 00:52:36,600
Speaker 1: you very much. You've done it. Yeah, it's great. You've

1046
00:52:36,640 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 1: done it again. Everyone no, no one doubted you. But

1047
00:52:39,320 --> 00:52:41,440
Speaker 1: everyone's like, she's been away for a while, will she

1048
00:52:41,520 --> 00:52:43,040
Speaker 1: be able to sit back in the And it was

1049
00:52:43,080 --> 00:52:46,200
Speaker 1: a last minute, things minute thing. You know, you're like

1050
00:52:46,320 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 1: the backup that's to get off the bench and start

1051
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 1: throwing and getting warm real quick. You did it. Thank you,

1052
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,279
Speaker 1: Thank you very much. Problem we all thank you great.

1053
00:52:55,520 --> 00:53:00,279
Speaker 1: I mean the Marley shirt. She just you can thank

1054
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: you for coming on your off day. You can now

1055
00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:07,879
Speaker 1: do some Bob Marley things. Okay, good, all right. We'll

1056
00:53:07,920 --> 00:53:10,000
Speaker 1: be back on Monday with another episode. To make sure

1057
00:53:10,040 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 1: you check it out. This is Dana hands As signing

1058
00:53:11,640 --> 00:53:16,160
Speaker 1: off for Connie Fox, the mail Man, the Boss, and

1059
00:53:16,280 --> 00:53:21,680
Speaker 1: Sully the Turncoat Behind the Mess. Still Monday,