1 00:00:00,200 --> 00:00:03,920 Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 2 00:00:03,920 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court, every Thursday from seven 3 00:00:07,680 --> 00:00:11,160 Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports Now. If 4 00:00:11,160 --> 00:00:12,960 Speaker 1: you're your hosts, Michael Buffis and. 5 00:00:13,160 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 2: Paul Moyer, Welcome to Hawks Live presented by the Dining 6 00:00:17,880 --> 00:00:20,120 Speaker 2: District got the Bellvy Collection. The show was at seven 7 00:00:20,200 --> 00:00:23,239 Speaker 2: every Thursday right here on Seattle Sports seven ten, broadcasting 8 00:00:23,280 --> 00:00:25,800 Speaker 2: live with Bellvy Squares Center Court. Look who I got. 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,760 Speaker 2: He's back, Paul Moyer, the guy. You guys are all 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:33,159 Speaker 2: here to see mister Moyer is back with us. 11 00:00:33,200 --> 00:00:33,880 Speaker 3: How you doing, Paul. 12 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 4: I'm good. Good to be back, especially after a win. 13 00:00:37,760 --> 00:00:40,040 Speaker 4: It was a tough three weeks before we finally got 14 00:00:40,040 --> 00:00:40,960 Speaker 4: that one last week. 15 00:00:40,960 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 5: But that was a good win. I'm excited about this 16 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:44,320 Speaker 5: next game. 17 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:45,880 Speaker 3: That's why he left, because he said, I got to 18 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:48,600 Speaker 3: switch something up. We're losing. So you know why I left. 19 00:00:48,840 --> 00:00:51,280 Speaker 4: I had had the wedding thing from my son. That 20 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,640 Speaker 4: was a good time. Yeah, it's really really special, good good. 21 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 3: Memories, good stuff. Congratulations, man, that's gotta be awesome. All right, man, 22 00:00:57,880 --> 00:00:59,440 Speaker 3: let's talk about these Seahawks. Man. 23 00:00:59,480 --> 00:01:01,920 Speaker 2: It's as you guys know you got the win last 24 00:01:01,960 --> 00:01:05,480 Speaker 2: week and some messages might have been sent to the 25 00:01:05,480 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: locker room this week, Moyer, Jerome Baker is no longer 26 00:01:08,920 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: with the team. 27 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 3: They moved him over to Tennessee. 28 00:01:11,280 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 2: I'm in return, you get a young man by the 29 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 2: name of Ernest Jones, the fourth. I remember him when 30 00:01:16,480 --> 00:01:19,280 Speaker 2: he was with the Los Angeles Rams, and he was 31 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 2: a ballplayer. And as soon as the tray goes down, 32 00:01:22,319 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: we do what we do. We're watching film. We're trying 33 00:01:24,280 --> 00:01:26,920 Speaker 2: to figure out who he is as a player and 34 00:01:27,600 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 2: what the Seahaws got in return. 35 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:31,520 Speaker 3: So when you flip that film, I love well. 36 00:01:31,600 --> 00:01:33,440 Speaker 2: Let me back up. First, what did you think of 37 00:01:33,520 --> 00:01:36,000 Speaker 2: the trade initially? And then what did you what you 38 00:01:36,080 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 2: see when you put the film on. 39 00:01:38,040 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: I was at work. My son kept trying to call me. 40 00:01:41,800 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 4: I go, ah, something's up. That's just I think of 41 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,560 Speaker 4: a Seahawks fan he is, And then I see the text. 42 00:01:48,240 --> 00:01:49,920 Speaker 4: At first I was like, wow, I can't believe we 43 00:01:50,000 --> 00:01:52,160 Speaker 4: made a trade. And I was like you, I mean 44 00:01:52,280 --> 00:01:54,000 Speaker 4: Ernest Jones when he was with the Rams. I thought 45 00:01:54,040 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 4: he was a problem for the Seahawks. Yeah, you know, 46 00:01:56,080 --> 00:02:00,400 Speaker 4: he was a playmaker, a more traditional inside linebacker, tough, 47 00:02:00,440 --> 00:02:01,560 Speaker 4: good physical guy. 48 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:04,920 Speaker 5: Strong. Even though he weighs they say they weigh. 49 00:02:04,760 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 4: The same Heimn Baker, they don't look the same size. 50 00:02:07,880 --> 00:02:12,639 Speaker 4: You know, Ernest Jones looks like he's he's well built, 51 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 4: he could take on guards. 52 00:02:14,560 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: He's got really. 53 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:20,079 Speaker 4: Good push extension with his hands, good anticipation. I think 54 00:02:20,120 --> 00:02:22,040 Speaker 4: that's one thing we all talked about, you, Nasa and 55 00:02:22,080 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 4: I when we were over hanging out at Earl's earlier, 56 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,799 Speaker 4: which we talked about. It's just how impressed his instincts are, 57 00:02:29,880 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: how quick he reads things and how he attacks the gap. 58 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 4: So look, they're not messing around two weeks in a row, 59 00:02:36,440 --> 00:02:39,000 Speaker 4: big trades. You know, you get Robertson Harris last week. 60 00:02:39,280 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 4: That's gonna be a huge upgrade for us, particularly you 61 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 4: know the way we rotate our defensive line. And then 62 00:02:44,400 --> 00:02:46,960 Speaker 4: Ernest Jones paired with Dotson. I think this is going 63 00:02:47,040 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 4: to help Dotson two because when you had Dotson and Baker, 64 00:02:50,080 --> 00:02:54,160 Speaker 4: two undersized linebackers. Man, it's just it's hard to have 65 00:02:54,200 --> 00:02:56,000 Speaker 4: two of them. You know, you need one guy who 66 00:02:56,000 --> 00:02:58,720 Speaker 4: can really take care of the run. And you're gonna 67 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:01,320 Speaker 4: like Ernest Jones. He's young, you know, he's twenty five 68 00:03:01,400 --> 00:03:05,280 Speaker 4: years old. He's physical, he has good instincts. He can 69 00:03:05,360 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 4: cover as well. It's not probably as fast as Baker, 70 00:03:08,840 --> 00:03:11,359 Speaker 4: but I think you're gonna like what we get from him. 71 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:13,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, no, I love it. When I watched the film, 72 00:03:13,720 --> 00:03:15,480 Speaker 2: I saw all the things as you saw. He is 73 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:19,560 Speaker 2: stepping downhill, taking on guards and delivering a pop. He's 74 00:03:19,600 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 2: not always trying to avoid. There are times in a 75 00:03:21,600 --> 00:03:24,280 Speaker 2: place where you can't avoid. His instincts are good. Just 76 00:03:24,320 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 2: like you mentioned, I'm excited. I think this lets everybody 77 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 2: know on this roster that if you don't do your job, 78 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:33,399 Speaker 2: this is a performance based business, or if we don't 79 00:03:33,400 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: feel like you're doing your job, we have to do 80 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,120 Speaker 2: things to make this team better. 81 00:03:37,400 --> 00:03:38,800 Speaker 3: The week before they bring in. 82 00:03:39,040 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 2: Roy Robinson Harris and I watched him on that defensive 83 00:03:42,360 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 2: line and it just seems like the box is getting 84 00:03:44,840 --> 00:03:48,000 Speaker 2: more physical. And when the box is physical, it's gonna 85 00:03:48,000 --> 00:03:51,119 Speaker 2: help everything else on the back end. More interceptions, more 86 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 2: mistakes by the quarterback. So I think this is essential 87 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:57,520 Speaker 2: to building a defense, especially a week where you got 88 00:03:57,520 --> 00:03:59,840 Speaker 2: to see Josh Allen, who hasn't turned the football over 89 00:03:59,840 --> 00:04:01,560 Speaker 2: now in the air. At least he does have a fumble, 90 00:04:01,720 --> 00:04:03,480 Speaker 2: but yeah, just get more physical in the box. 91 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 3: I like that identity. 92 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 4: Yeah, I think he saw it last week that, you know, 93 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 4: just having robertson Harris as well, the way the pocket collapsed, 94 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 4: keeping guys fresh. It was consistent pressure that we put 95 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,159 Speaker 4: on Cousins and we talked about so if you can 96 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 4: keep him pressure, got pressure. He doesn't take a lot 97 00:04:20,560 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 4: of sacks. He's going to throw a couple to us. 98 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:25,120 Speaker 5: And he did. So that's big. 99 00:04:25,520 --> 00:04:27,839 Speaker 4: And I think that was a message too, is that, hey, 100 00:04:28,120 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 4: if you guys aren't consistent, we're going to go find 101 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,320 Speaker 4: people who are. So I think I think it also 102 00:04:33,480 --> 00:04:36,560 Speaker 4: gives you know, let's fast forward to this week. It's 103 00:04:36,560 --> 00:04:38,680 Speaker 4: not a Baker. I thought, jerown Baker. He is a 104 00:04:38,680 --> 00:04:41,360 Speaker 4: good football player. He can run, he can make plays, 105 00:04:41,360 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 4: but the inconsistencies and they weren't changing the amount of 106 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 4: times he was running underneath blocks at times just just waiting. 107 00:04:49,960 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 4: I mean, he just wasn't reading. I think his lack 108 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:54,119 Speaker 4: of confidence. I think he lost his confidence somewhere along 109 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:57,920 Speaker 4: the way. And when you're an undersized person, an undersized linebacker, 110 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 4: you've got to beat the guards and centers to your gap. 111 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 4: You have to force them quickly off that double team, 112 00:05:05,400 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 4: because if you do that, then our defensive lineman can 113 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 4: make the play. If our defensive linemen are holding their ground, 114 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:14,240 Speaker 4: you're in the gap quick. If you're late to it, 115 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 4: there's nowhere to go. I mean he couldn't see over 116 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,200 Speaker 4: the guards and now you're hooked as well, and so 117 00:05:19,240 --> 00:05:21,719 Speaker 4: there's no way to even work over the top. And 118 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 4: so what do they do? You get lazy go I 119 00:05:23,839 --> 00:05:25,760 Speaker 4: think I'm quick enough. I can go underneath this block 120 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:28,760 Speaker 4: and maybe get back into my lane. It's so hard 121 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,080 Speaker 4: to do in the NFL. So I think what you 122 00:05:31,200 --> 00:05:34,360 Speaker 4: now have for coach McDonald is I think he has 123 00:05:34,400 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 4: all the pieces. 124 00:05:35,480 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 5: He's got all the. 125 00:05:36,120 --> 00:05:39,040 Speaker 4: Pieces on the defensive line we have that can rotate 126 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 4: what you want to do to keep a line for us. 127 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 4: You've got edge rushers that are young and good. You 128 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:46,919 Speaker 4: have now two linebackers who can run, and one of 129 00:05:46,960 --> 00:05:51,279 Speaker 4: them's a more traditional downhill, really instinctive player against the run. 130 00:05:51,320 --> 00:05:52,760 Speaker 5: We had to have one of those. 131 00:05:53,080 --> 00:05:56,560 Speaker 4: We have that now, and then in the secondary we're 132 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:59,960 Speaker 4: going to have job on later too. We've got competition 133 00:06:00,320 --> 00:06:03,440 Speaker 4: in the secondary corner that's unbelievad it's probably them with 134 00:06:03,560 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 4: deepest corners we've ever had, yep so and in safeties 135 00:06:07,640 --> 00:06:12,480 Speaker 4: Kobe Bryant coming in to play phenomenal. You got all 136 00:06:12,520 --> 00:06:14,760 Speaker 4: the pieces to call whatever you want, have any type 137 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:16,080 Speaker 4: of matchup with personnel. 138 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 2: All the names you mentioned create a good problem to have, 139 00:06:19,360 --> 00:06:21,640 Speaker 2: which is who are you going to play right? Who 140 00:06:21,680 --> 00:06:23,480 Speaker 2: am I going to trust the most to go out 141 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:25,600 Speaker 2: there and do a job. Let's go back to last 142 00:06:25,600 --> 00:06:27,600 Speaker 2: week in Atlanta. I think that was fun to watch. 143 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,080 Speaker 2: It was we go into that game knowing that there 144 00:06:30,080 --> 00:06:32,320 Speaker 2: are a couple of things that the Atlanta FL Cans 145 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:34,840 Speaker 2: do well. Kirk Cousin coming off a couple of weeks 146 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:37,600 Speaker 2: ago throwing for five hundred yards? What's this pass defense 147 00:06:37,640 --> 00:06:40,280 Speaker 2: going to look like? You have Bejean Robinson in the backfield. 148 00:06:40,279 --> 00:06:43,039 Speaker 2: You also have Tyler Izier who got knocked out of 149 00:06:43,040 --> 00:06:45,080 Speaker 2: that game. Are you going to be able to stop 150 00:06:45,120 --> 00:06:48,080 Speaker 2: the run? Will this game travel down south and show 151 00:06:48,160 --> 00:06:50,839 Speaker 2: us something that the Hawks haven't been consistent doing, which 152 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 2: is stopping the run and then getting after the quarterback. 153 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:57,080 Speaker 2: It felt good to see these guys execute and calls 154 00:06:57,160 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 2: these turnovers. 155 00:06:58,120 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 3: I think you told me. 156 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:02,320 Speaker 2: The stat what you had one week where you had 157 00:07:02,320 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 2: a turnover. You had another week where you have a 158 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:07,400 Speaker 2: fumble return four touchdown, but there was a span where 159 00:07:07,440 --> 00:07:09,920 Speaker 2: turnovers just weren't happening and the Hawks were turning the 160 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 2: ball over. It was nice to see this defense create 161 00:07:13,520 --> 00:07:15,120 Speaker 2: those takeaways and get that w. 162 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 4: Yeah, we had had four turnovers going into the game 163 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:20,760 Speaker 4: last week, and we had three of them in one game. 164 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:22,120 Speaker 5: And if you really look at that. 165 00:07:22,120 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 4: Game, the game, it was similar on both sides, you know, 166 00:07:25,760 --> 00:07:28,560 Speaker 4: I mean, it wasn't like we just stone cold stopped 167 00:07:28,560 --> 00:07:30,120 Speaker 4: at Land of the whole time. You know, they were 168 00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 4: getting thirty forty yards in a drive. But you get 169 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 4: those two three big turnovers, three of them one for 170 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:39,640 Speaker 4: a touchdown. It's just a game changer. And special teams. 171 00:07:39,680 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: I thought we won the special team. We kick a 172 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 4: fifty nine yard field goal. They missed a fifty yard 173 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 4: field goal or punter. I mean, I think every time 174 00:07:46,040 --> 00:07:49,120 Speaker 4: he pinned them inside the twenty. So, you know, special 175 00:07:49,160 --> 00:07:52,360 Speaker 4: teams matter, turnovers matter, We know the formula. 176 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:53,840 Speaker 5: We hadn't been doing that. 177 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,080 Speaker 4: And then on top of that, the amount of big 178 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 4: plays where we were getting all fixable things, you know, 179 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,840 Speaker 4: stop running underneath block, their first touchdown, their very first 180 00:08:02,880 --> 00:08:06,840 Speaker 4: touchdown that Robinson, we run underneath the block, the plays away. 181 00:08:06,960 --> 00:08:09,160 Speaker 5: It's like, and I think this whole thing. 182 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 4: Coach McDonald and Schneider and all of them said, hey, 183 00:08:12,040 --> 00:08:13,880 Speaker 4: we've got pretty good team. 184 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:15,520 Speaker 5: We got good players. 185 00:08:16,400 --> 00:08:18,160 Speaker 4: If you're not going to list, if you're not going 186 00:08:18,240 --> 00:08:20,280 Speaker 4: to get this done, we're gonna go find somebody who can. 187 00:08:20,640 --> 00:08:22,040 Speaker 5: There's competition out there. 188 00:08:22,400 --> 00:08:25,440 Speaker 4: We're gonna have Josh job as I mentioned, he's from Alabama. 189 00:08:25,800 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 4: The great Nick Saban said, make me force me, find 190 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 4: me a reason to play you. Coaches don't play guys 191 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 4: who aren't the best. So I think again, I think 192 00:08:36,880 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 4: we're a better team today and when we go into 193 00:08:40,800 --> 00:08:42,600 Speaker 4: Buffalo than we were a we could go in certainly 194 00:08:42,600 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 4: two weeks ago. 195 00:08:43,520 --> 00:08:47,920 Speaker 2: Once again, Gino plays a solid football game, scores our throws, 196 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,960 Speaker 2: two touchdowns, two hundred and seven yards, and when you 197 00:08:51,000 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 2: look at the stat sheet, it's not gonna overwhelm you. 198 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,599 Speaker 2: You're not gonna say, oh, Gino must have had a 199 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:59,320 Speaker 2: good game. But when you watch him work in that pocket, 200 00:08:59,720 --> 00:09:04,720 Speaker 2: you watch him operate in tight spaces, you appreciate what 201 00:09:04,760 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 2: he's doing for this offense. 202 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:09,520 Speaker 4: Forty seven percent of his passes last week he was hurried. 203 00:09:09,800 --> 00:09:10,160 Speaker 3: All right. 204 00:09:10,200 --> 00:09:13,000 Speaker 4: That was the third most in the NFL this year. 205 00:09:13,320 --> 00:09:16,160 Speaker 4: I mean that's a big number, and you know it 206 00:09:16,200 --> 00:09:19,439 Speaker 4: doesn't always mean it's sacks. Just me's just got to 207 00:09:19,520 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: hurry up. The way he worked in the pocket. I'll 208 00:09:21,800 --> 00:09:24,720 Speaker 4: close it with this. Go watch the last play before 209 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 4: the half, with ten seconds left. He completed it with 210 00:09:27,160 --> 00:09:29,559 Speaker 4: four seconds left. What he did, just the way he 211 00:09:29,640 --> 00:09:33,480 Speaker 4: stepped up. That ball carried forty one yards in the air, 212 00:09:33,880 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 4: forty one bullet dime, great read, no timeouts, the decision making. 213 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,680 Speaker 4: So yeah, I think Gino argued with people on Twitter, 214 00:09:44,400 --> 00:09:47,120 Speaker 4: he's playing as well as any quarterback in the league, 215 00:09:47,160 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 4: particularly way he's working in the pocket. 216 00:09:49,120 --> 00:09:50,440 Speaker 3: Yep, I agree one hundred percent. 217 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 2: Gino leading the charge in this defense is getting healthy. 218 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,319 Speaker 2: All right, man, one segment down, We are just getting going. 219 00:09:56,360 --> 00:09:59,520 Speaker 2: We'll be coming back. We'll get an opponent preview from Salcobaci, 220 00:10:00,040 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 2: Bill's beat writer and sideline reporter. 221 00:10:02,320 --> 00:10:03,679 Speaker 3: That is next right here on Hawk's Live. 222 00:10:05,920 --> 00:10:09,880 Speaker 1: Hawks SLI presented by the Dining District of a Bellevue 223 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,040 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on 224 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 225 00:10:15,720 --> 00:10:18,600 Speaker 2: This is Hawk's Live presented by the Dining District at 226 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,440 Speaker 2: the Bellvue Collection every Thursday at seven right here on Seattle. 227 00:10:21,440 --> 00:10:23,439 Speaker 3: Score seven ten, and now we. 228 00:10:23,440 --> 00:10:28,319 Speaker 2: Are joined by the Giants beating sideline reporter Sal Capaccio, Sal, 229 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:28,880 Speaker 2: how are we doing? 230 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 6: Pretty good? 231 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:30,640 Speaker 3: Guys? 232 00:10:30,640 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 7: How are you good? 233 00:10:32,000 --> 00:10:35,319 Speaker 2: We're doing good, man, Thanks for joining us East Coast time. 234 00:10:35,960 --> 00:10:37,120 Speaker 3: You're about to go to sleep? 235 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 8: Man? 236 00:10:37,679 --> 00:10:39,319 Speaker 3: What's the what's your night looking, Mike? 237 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:44,600 Speaker 6: Yeah? Actually I did a podcast earlier tonight and trying 238 00:10:44,640 --> 00:10:47,160 Speaker 6: to watch my Syracuse Warren, but they are getting completely 239 00:10:47,160 --> 00:10:50,400 Speaker 6: demolished by tonight, so that didn't go so well. So 240 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:52,000 Speaker 6: now I'm just watching the Thursday night game. 241 00:10:52,880 --> 00:10:54,920 Speaker 3: What's the status on that Thursday night game? 242 00:10:56,760 --> 00:10:59,560 Speaker 6: Seventeen fourteen? I think the score is right now as 243 00:10:59,559 --> 00:11:01,280 Speaker 6: I just up and on with you guys. Pretty good 244 00:11:01,280 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 6: game actually between the Rams and the Vikings. Obviously Rams 245 00:11:04,559 --> 00:11:06,319 Speaker 6: getting a little bit healthier, getting some guys back, but 246 00:11:06,440 --> 00:11:09,079 Speaker 6: the Vikings lost to Christian darisaw their outstanding line, doun. 247 00:11:11,080 --> 00:11:13,839 Speaker 4: Sal. Just looking at the schedule, I mean, Buffalo's good, 248 00:11:13,880 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 4: they're five and two, But then I looked at the 249 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: schedule and they really don't have a good signature win. 250 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,320 Speaker 4: I mean it beat Arizona early and in Miami Jacksonville 251 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,440 Speaker 4: and then you know the jetson Tennessee. Where do you 252 00:11:27,480 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 4: think this team is though right now in your opinion, Well, 253 00:11:31,440 --> 00:11:31,640 Speaker 4: you can. 254 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:33,600 Speaker 6: Only play who's on your schedule, right I mean, like 255 00:11:34,080 --> 00:11:36,560 Speaker 6: there's only opportunities to get those signature wins that they present. 256 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:38,480 Speaker 6: And they did have a chance in Houston, and you know, 257 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 6: obviously that game didn't go their way and they got 258 00:11:40,400 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 6: beaten pre handley at the Baltimore Ravens. But you know, 259 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,400 Speaker 6: I think there's still a team that's in the top 260 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:48,719 Speaker 6: eight in both I think they're third best in the 261 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 6: league in points four eight best in the league and 262 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:53,400 Speaker 6: points against. And they still have an elite quarterback Josh Allen. 263 00:11:53,600 --> 00:11:55,440 Speaker 6: He's one of the best in the league. He's the 264 00:11:55,480 --> 00:11:57,240 Speaker 6: only quarterback in the NFL. Is you have to throw 265 00:11:57,240 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 6: an interception yet this season, believe it or not, considering 266 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:03,560 Speaker 6: you know what people generally think about him. You know, 267 00:12:03,800 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 6: they're still a very very well coached team on the 268 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,000 Speaker 6: defensive side of the ball. I guess they lost some 269 00:12:08,000 --> 00:12:10,320 Speaker 6: players last year, but the system really works for them. 270 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 6: They've had some struggles hot and cold at times offensively, 271 00:12:14,040 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 6: but I think, you know, with the addition of Amari 272 00:12:15,559 --> 00:12:17,480 Speaker 6: Cooper last week? Who really saw them? You know, they 273 00:12:17,480 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 6: were down ten nothing, that scored thirty four straight unanswered points. 274 00:12:21,760 --> 00:12:25,920 Speaker 2: What's your what's your perspective on Josh Allen? I appreciate 275 00:12:26,000 --> 00:12:29,720 Speaker 2: that he is being more responsible with the football, right, eighteen. 276 00:12:29,400 --> 00:12:30,600 Speaker 3: Turnovers last year. 277 00:12:30,960 --> 00:12:33,480 Speaker 2: Do you feel like he's losing some of that big 278 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:36,280 Speaker 2: play that he had when he was taking more risk 279 00:12:36,440 --> 00:12:39,320 Speaker 2: or do you feel like this style of play is 280 00:12:39,559 --> 00:12:42,679 Speaker 2: conducive to these guys winning the division and making a 281 00:12:42,760 --> 00:12:43,200 Speaker 2: run again. 282 00:12:44,400 --> 00:12:46,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? I mean, well, you know, they won four straight 283 00:12:46,360 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 6: division titles, and you know, I think along the way, 284 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:52,280 Speaker 6: you know, Josh's had times where he's had to tie 285 00:12:52,320 --> 00:12:53,800 Speaker 6: to dial it back a little bit. I think last 286 00:12:53,840 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 6: year was one of those years. Actually there was less 287 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:58,280 Speaker 6: big plays that were baked in there, and when they tried, 288 00:12:58,360 --> 00:13:01,920 Speaker 6: they missed on some outfield. You know, I don't know, 289 00:13:02,000 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 6: you know, I don't know Josh is necessarily being conservative 290 00:13:05,320 --> 00:13:07,240 Speaker 6: necessari this year. I think he's making good decisions. 291 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:07,440 Speaker 7: With the football. 292 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,080 Speaker 6: One thing, he's a he's running a little bit less. 293 00:13:09,080 --> 00:13:11,840 Speaker 6: That started after he hurt his hand, his left hand, 294 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:13,280 Speaker 6: and you know, Week one against the Ears and the 295 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,240 Speaker 6: Cardinals that's certainly happening. But you know, this is what 296 00:13:17,280 --> 00:13:19,520 Speaker 6: we call the Josh Allen experience. Look, we will all 297 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:23,880 Speaker 6: take the higher turnovers er interceptions because if you don't, 298 00:13:23,920 --> 00:13:25,680 Speaker 6: you're not going to get the incredible plays that come 299 00:13:25,720 --> 00:13:27,560 Speaker 6: along with it. And that's what makes Josh Allen special. 300 00:13:27,960 --> 00:13:29,679 Speaker 6: He's one of the top quarterbacks in the NFL. He 301 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:31,559 Speaker 6: has been for a while. He's been an MVP candidate 302 00:13:31,559 --> 00:13:33,680 Speaker 6: every single year, you know, for the last four or five. 303 00:13:33,720 --> 00:13:36,440 Speaker 6: And the reason is because he makes those incredible plays 304 00:13:36,480 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 6: and he can do so much. But with that, he's 305 00:13:38,520 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 6: going to take some shots. He's got a little bit 306 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:42,920 Speaker 6: of bread parving him. So I always say guys like, hey, 307 00:13:43,000 --> 00:13:44,960 Speaker 6: if you if you you want to take those things 308 00:13:44,960 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 6: away from Josh, then you're actually taking away what makes 309 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:47,440 Speaker 6: them special. 310 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 4: Yeah. Look, I think it's it's been impressive this year 311 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,360 Speaker 4: to watch joshin you know, I'm just curious that you 312 00:13:54,360 --> 00:13:57,440 Speaker 4: know that Stefan digs part of that. 313 00:13:57,559 --> 00:13:58,600 Speaker 5: Maybe it's look, you. 314 00:13:58,640 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 4: Got twelve touchdowns, no interceptions. He's only taken nine sacks, 315 00:14:02,840 --> 00:14:05,280 Speaker 4: so he's not taking sacks and he's still not forcing 316 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:08,520 Speaker 4: the ball downfield. It's just not having Stefan Diggs era. 317 00:14:08,880 --> 00:14:10,760 Speaker 4: Do you feel like he says, I'm going to take 318 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:11,880 Speaker 4: what the defense gives you. 319 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,160 Speaker 3: Yeah. 320 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:16,040 Speaker 6: I think it was really it's seven Nicks and Gabe Davis, right. 321 00:14:16,120 --> 00:14:18,160 Speaker 6: I mean like they had a big transition at wide receiver, 322 00:14:19,520 --> 00:14:21,000 Speaker 6: you know, and I think that going into the year, 323 00:14:21,040 --> 00:14:22,960 Speaker 6: they really felt that they had enough there and they 324 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:24,800 Speaker 6: have an elite quarterback and they can kind of get 325 00:14:24,800 --> 00:14:26,520 Speaker 6: by well. As the season's gone on, one thing we 326 00:14:26,600 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 6: noticed was, you know, a lot of teams are just 327 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:30,160 Speaker 6: playing the Bills a lot more manned man because they 328 00:14:30,160 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 6: didn't have separators. They have good receivers, just not separators. 329 00:14:32,640 --> 00:14:35,120 Speaker 6: Klos Shakira underneath Salton Kinkaid in the middle of the field. 330 00:14:35,680 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 6: That was great, but they just were not getting guys 331 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:40,320 Speaker 6: open enough where Josh could really take those shots and 332 00:14:40,400 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 6: you know, felt comfortable. Well, that's why they traded for 333 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 6: Amari Cooper last week. He comes right in, He makes 334 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 6: a big impact in week number one. He's gonna have 335 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 6: an expanded role against this week, and I think that's 336 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,720 Speaker 6: really going to start to open up the offense a 337 00:14:50,760 --> 00:14:52,080 Speaker 6: little bit. But you know the other part is I 338 00:14:52,080 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 6: think the Bills have kind of wanted to go to 339 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:56,120 Speaker 6: this model a little bit of you know, their manentre 340 00:14:56,200 --> 00:14:58,280 Speaker 6: as everybody eats, right, because the last couple of years, 341 00:14:58,280 --> 00:15:01,000 Speaker 6: Stefan Diggs has eaten up so many targets and he's 342 00:15:01,000 --> 00:15:02,480 Speaker 6: a great receiver. There's no doubt you want to throw 343 00:15:02,520 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 6: in the football. But I think there's also comes a 344 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 6: lot of pressure with having to kind of feed a 345 00:15:05,840 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 6: guy like that. And the Bills they've they really operated 346 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 6: with more of a loose offense and it kind of 347 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:11,200 Speaker 6: doesn't matter where they go, and you have to kind 348 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:13,400 Speaker 6: of defend the whole field on them. And that includes 349 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:15,480 Speaker 6: the running game, which obviously has been very good for 350 00:15:15,480 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 6: the most part this year as well, with a pair 351 00:15:17,240 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 6: of very good backs James Cook, who was you know 352 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 6: for the first year and a half of his career 353 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 6: and now is again, and now Ray Davis who's been 354 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 6: in the mixtus that I have done an excellent job. 355 00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:30,240 Speaker 2: Hey, when you when you look at this team on paper, right, 356 00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 2: you look at their overall ranking on offense, overall ranking 357 00:15:34,200 --> 00:15:36,960 Speaker 2: on defense, how they run the ball, how they defend 358 00:15:37,200 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 2: the rem you can get convinced that they're just an 359 00:15:40,920 --> 00:15:43,240 Speaker 2: okay team. But the numbers that stick out to me 360 00:15:43,320 --> 00:15:45,600 Speaker 2: the most are the points that they score and the 361 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 2: points that are allowed. 362 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:49,760 Speaker 3: Like, make that make sense to me? How are they they? 363 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,120 Speaker 2: They seem to be mediocre everywhere else, but when it 364 00:15:53,160 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 2: comes to scoring, they excel at that. 365 00:15:57,200 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 6: Because they concentrate on with most important and that's keeping 366 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:01,800 Speaker 6: team out of the end zone. They have a very 367 00:16:01,880 --> 00:16:04,520 Speaker 6: very good red zone defense, the ranked sixth in the NFL. 368 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:06,960 Speaker 6: Their bend but don't break defense. I mean last week 369 00:16:06,960 --> 00:16:09,640 Speaker 6: against the Tennessee Titans, for sample, they were getting out 370 00:16:09,720 --> 00:16:12,640 Speaker 6: gained at halftime two hundred and seventeen to ninety and 371 00:16:12,720 --> 00:16:14,920 Speaker 6: they were only down ten to nothing because they buckled 372 00:16:14,920 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 6: down the red zone. Now that was terrible because they 373 00:16:16,640 --> 00:16:18,280 Speaker 6: weren't playing very well. They have a bunch of three and outs, 374 00:16:18,320 --> 00:16:20,720 Speaker 6: they made mistakes, and then in the second half they 375 00:16:21,160 --> 00:16:24,040 Speaker 6: completely outgained the Titans three hundred to seventy something, which 376 00:16:24,080 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 6: was incredible. They had to tail two hals. Look this 377 00:16:27,680 --> 00:16:30,760 Speaker 6: experience coaching staff Sean McDermott. They won four straight division titles. 378 00:16:30,800 --> 00:16:33,720 Speaker 6: The experienced quarterback. They understand that it's a long game. 379 00:16:33,720 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 6: They understand how to make changes throughout the game, the 380 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:38,240 Speaker 6: ebbs and flows of games, and what's most important to 381 00:16:38,280 --> 00:16:39,840 Speaker 6: them is keeping teams out of the end zone on 382 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 6: the defensive side and then converting when you're on the 383 00:16:42,400 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 6: offensive side. And so far they've done a really good job. 384 00:16:44,280 --> 00:16:47,000 Speaker 6: They're seventh in the league and red zone efficiency offensively 385 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:49,840 Speaker 6: six in the league and red zone efficiency defensively. So 386 00:16:49,840 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 6: they're gonna win and they're gonna, you know, be willing 387 00:16:51,800 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 6: to bend a little bit. And the other part is guys, 388 00:16:53,360 --> 00:16:55,720 Speaker 6: I mean, you know, they they've actually kind of styre 389 00:16:56,240 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 6: the numbers, like when you look at it there and 390 00:16:57,840 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 6: you say, like being mediocre, the they're kind of bad 391 00:17:00,520 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 6: actually in yards per game on the ground, right, I mean, 392 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 6: they're twenty ninth in the league and yards were playing 393 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,119 Speaker 6: the ground. It's just not going well. But their deepense 394 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,000 Speaker 6: is structured to say, hey, look, if you want to 395 00:17:09,040 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 6: run against us, we can live with that. We're not 396 00:17:11,000 --> 00:17:12,919 Speaker 6: going to let you make big plays. The Bills and 397 00:17:12,960 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 6: Sean mcdermmy's tenure, the Bills are one of the best 398 00:17:15,000 --> 00:17:16,359 Speaker 6: of that the best team in the league just not 399 00:17:16,440 --> 00:17:18,720 Speaker 6: allowing big plays over the top. I think they've only 400 00:17:18,720 --> 00:17:21,320 Speaker 6: allowed one of those this year that went for a touchdown, 401 00:17:21,359 --> 00:17:24,120 Speaker 6: and that was because a rookie safety was starting due 402 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,040 Speaker 6: to injury, and that was Nico Collins and the Texans. 403 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 6: So you know, they're kind of their philosophy is, hey, 404 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 6: you can run on us a little bit, We'll be 405 00:17:29,720 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 6: okay with that. You're just not going to throw the 406 00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 6: ball down the field to get big plays on us 407 00:17:33,119 --> 00:17:33,800 Speaker 6: in score points. 408 00:17:34,520 --> 00:17:37,119 Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm this defense, the way they play together is 409 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,959 Speaker 4: really good. I mean, they just I don't know if 410 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:43,359 Speaker 4: it's their philosophy of just having really smart players. The 411 00:17:43,400 --> 00:17:46,000 Speaker 4: guy who just jumps out at me is I'm not 412 00:17:46,040 --> 00:17:50,040 Speaker 4: sure if it's Terrell or Taro Bernard just watching him, smart, 413 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:53,440 Speaker 4: tough guy. Just talk about some of those linebackers. 414 00:17:55,000 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 6: Yeah, well he might not play this week. Guys, he 415 00:17:56,840 --> 00:17:59,080 Speaker 6: has an ankle injury. And he is a terrific player, 416 00:17:59,119 --> 00:18:02,080 Speaker 6: There's no doubt about it. You know. One of the 417 00:18:02,200 --> 00:18:04,160 Speaker 6: you know, kind of more frustrating parts of the last 418 00:18:04,160 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 6: couple of years, as we've been dot and i'd here, 419 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 6: the Bills have been denied of seeing Terrerol Bernard and 420 00:18:08,280 --> 00:18:10,040 Speaker 6: Matt Malone on this field at the same time. Matt 421 00:18:10,040 --> 00:18:12,320 Speaker 6: Malone was an All Pro. He's incredible, but you know, 422 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:14,840 Speaker 6: he broke his leg last year in Week number five 423 00:18:15,160 --> 00:18:16,480 Speaker 6: and then when he came back this year, he was 424 00:18:16,520 --> 00:18:18,480 Speaker 6: ready to play and then he tore his biceps in 425 00:18:18,520 --> 00:18:20,920 Speaker 6: training camp, so he's been out all year. So Dorian 426 00:18:20,960 --> 00:18:22,960 Speaker 6: Williams in his second year, has been filling in and 427 00:18:23,000 --> 00:18:25,359 Speaker 6: he's just getting better every week. Dorrian Wallie supplies around 428 00:18:25,359 --> 00:18:28,200 Speaker 6: it plays like his Arizon player and Terrel Bernard. He's 429 00:18:28,240 --> 00:18:30,280 Speaker 6: just such a great athlete. He plays the middle. He's 430 00:18:30,280 --> 00:18:32,800 Speaker 6: a undersized middle linebacker. You know, he's not a throwback 431 00:18:32,840 --> 00:18:35,040 Speaker 6: like ray Lewis. This is a guy that really probably 432 00:18:35,080 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 6: is more built physically to play the will linebacker spot, 433 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 6: but he's so tough and he's so mentally his high IQ. 434 00:18:41,400 --> 00:18:43,359 Speaker 6: He's all over the field as a middle linebacker. Now 435 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:46,160 Speaker 6: if he doesn't play, Val Inspector will fill in for him, 436 00:18:46,160 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 6: and Balen Spector isn't Terrel Bernard. He's a very good 437 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 6: North He's more of a throwback. He's more of a 438 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:52,639 Speaker 6: North stout, make tackles kind of guy. But he can 439 00:18:52,680 --> 00:18:54,400 Speaker 6: be had in coverage a little bit, which we've seen. 440 00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:56,520 Speaker 6: So that's gonna be a big area for the Bills 441 00:18:56,520 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 6: to kind of see where they go and look. Bill's 442 00:18:59,080 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 6: play pretty much exclusively nickel defense, so where most teams 443 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 6: have three linebackers. The bilster linebackers actually their slot corner 444 00:19:06,240 --> 00:19:08,199 Speaker 6: and that's Taron Johnson. And for my money, he's the 445 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 6: best slot corner in the league. He is the first 446 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:11,800 Speaker 6: team All Pro last year. He's smaller, but he's very 447 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 6: physical and he's a terrific cover corner. 448 00:19:14,600 --> 00:19:19,080 Speaker 2: Hey, sal moy and I have covered the Seahawks for 449 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,480 Speaker 2: a while, and there's. 450 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:21,760 Speaker 3: Nothing like a good interview, right. 451 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 2: A guy who's engaging has personality, and it seems like 452 00:19:25,040 --> 00:19:27,440 Speaker 2: you got to get that in keyon coleman Man. How 453 00:19:27,480 --> 00:19:29,560 Speaker 2: fun is it talking to this young man and then 454 00:19:29,600 --> 00:19:31,400 Speaker 2: seeing him have the best game of his career last 455 00:19:31,440 --> 00:19:33,320 Speaker 2: week with what one hundred and twenty five yards? 456 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:35,960 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean he made his presence zone right away. 457 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 6: You guys saw probably the viral clips. I just drafted 458 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:39,840 Speaker 6: at the big yellow coat to the floor in the 459 00:19:39,840 --> 00:19:42,439 Speaker 6: media room and you know he's taking he's taking candy 460 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:45,119 Speaker 6: from the media table and talking to people, and you 461 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:47,480 Speaker 6: know he came in. He's drafted at twenty years old, right, 462 00:19:47,520 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 6: I mean, he can't even legally buy a beer. He's 463 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,680 Speaker 6: drafted and comes to Buffalo and he's a young guy. 464 00:19:51,720 --> 00:19:54,560 Speaker 6: He just loves football. And he is very engaging. You're 465 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,879 Speaker 6: right about that. You know, he's kind of quiet times. 466 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,560 Speaker 6: But the funny thing about Keion is like he'll say 467 00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:02,000 Speaker 6: something and you think like he's trying to be funny, 468 00:20:02,000 --> 00:20:04,280 Speaker 6: but he's not. He's just being honest and it's really funny. 469 00:20:04,320 --> 00:20:07,120 Speaker 6: And that's just his personalities and he's engaging like that, 470 00:20:07,560 --> 00:20:10,760 Speaker 6: and really to see him grow on the field. There's 471 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:13,720 Speaker 6: a guy that you know, people really hammered the Bills 472 00:20:13,720 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 6: from making that trade with the Chiefs on Draft Day 473 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 6: and the Chiefs going up to get Xavier Worthy. Everybody 474 00:20:17,880 --> 00:20:19,720 Speaker 6: thought the Bills should taken Xavier Worthy and oh my god, 475 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:21,560 Speaker 6: how can you trade with the Chiefs and the Super 476 00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:23,520 Speaker 6: Bowl champs, the teams that team that's beaten you. But 477 00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:25,760 Speaker 6: now the Bills didn't want Daviy Worthy. They could have 478 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 6: drafted him there and he's fine of the player he 479 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,119 Speaker 6: may turn out to be. They knew that they wanted 480 00:20:30,160 --> 00:20:31,760 Speaker 6: Kean Coleman and they were able to jump down and 481 00:20:31,760 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 6: they were able to get him. He fits in this 482 00:20:33,040 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 6: offense very well. And you know, he's a guy that 483 00:20:36,400 --> 00:20:39,840 Speaker 6: people might not realize. This kid played basketball at Michigan 484 00:20:40,000 --> 00:20:42,680 Speaker 6: State and he played football at Florida State when he 485 00:20:42,720 --> 00:20:45,280 Speaker 6: transferred to basket. You know, he's just such a great athlete, 486 00:20:45,359 --> 00:20:47,119 Speaker 6: and he was a guard at Michigan State. Like, he's 487 00:20:47,160 --> 00:20:49,520 Speaker 6: just so great on his feet. He's really well balanced. 488 00:20:49,520 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 6: He saw that with his rack last week, run after 489 00:20:51,520 --> 00:20:53,480 Speaker 6: the catch, So you know, he's a fun kid to cover, 490 00:20:53,600 --> 00:20:55,240 Speaker 6: and I think he's gonna have a really nice career. 491 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:56,600 Speaker 3: Yeah. 492 00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,520 Speaker 2: I'm enjoyed watching him do his thing. And we appreciate 493 00:21:00,560 --> 00:21:02,760 Speaker 2: you taking time out of your day. So man, yeah, 494 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,120 Speaker 2: you take care and talk to you soon. 495 00:21:05,040 --> 00:21:06,639 Speaker 6: All right, guys, thanks a lot, Thanks you having me out. 496 00:21:07,040 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 3: All right. He's Bill Sideline and beat reported Bill. 497 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:11,679 Speaker 4: You should go had him four years, I remember, and 498 00:21:11,720 --> 00:21:14,400 Speaker 4: he's just just good. And I remember we both said 499 00:21:14,640 --> 00:21:17,720 Speaker 4: that's a really good Yeah. Yeah, appreciate him coming on. 500 00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,640 Speaker 2: Good dude, especially East Coast man. Yeah, man, East Coast time. 501 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, I'd be knocked out. All right, man, when 502 00:21:25,160 --> 00:21:26,960 Speaker 2: we come back, we got more to do. We will 503 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:30,440 Speaker 2: talk to corner Josh Job. That is next right here 504 00:21:30,440 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 2: on Hawkslot. 505 00:21:34,320 --> 00:21:38,200 Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 506 00:21:38,280 --> 00:21:41,399 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court Live on air on 507 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:44,280 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 508 00:21:43,880 --> 00:21:46,800 Speaker 2: Welcome Back to Hawkslide, presented by the Dining District at 509 00:21:46,800 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 2: the Bellvy Collection. 510 00:21:47,880 --> 00:21:49,199 Speaker 3: Every Thursday at seven o'clock. 511 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,239 Speaker 2: Right here on Seattle Sports seventeen, we're broadcasting line from 512 00:21:52,280 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 2: Belvy Square Center Court and now we are joined by 513 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:56,240 Speaker 2: corner Josh Job. 514 00:21:56,800 --> 00:22:01,040 Speaker 3: Josh, how you feeling, man, I'm feeling good, doing great. 515 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 2: Appreciate you taking time out of your your night on 516 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 2: a Thursday to holler at us, Ben. 517 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,399 Speaker 3: It was. It was fun watching you man. Uh. 518 00:22:09,840 --> 00:22:11,520 Speaker 2: We saw that you were going to get some time. 519 00:22:11,560 --> 00:22:13,040 Speaker 2: Do you know how much time you're going to get. 520 00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,880 Speaker 2: But when you were out there, you were doing your thing, man, 521 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 2: I was. I'm always happy for especially undrafted guys. Paul 522 00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 2: Uh and myself were both undrafted. So to see you 523 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,879 Speaker 2: go out there and getting opportunity and take advantage of 524 00:22:25,920 --> 00:22:26,520 Speaker 2: it was fun. 525 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:27,920 Speaker 3: What was that like for you? 526 00:22:29,280 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 7: I mean it was it was great. You know, like 527 00:22:31,600 --> 00:22:34,880 Speaker 7: you said on dropping, guys don't get this. A lot 528 00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:37,640 Speaker 7: of opportunities. So I had to take advantage and they'd 529 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 7: open the. 530 00:22:37,960 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 3: Doors for me. 531 00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:40,560 Speaker 7: So I how to play my heart out out of 532 00:22:40,600 --> 00:22:43,880 Speaker 7: prepar rate the right way and and place fast. 533 00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:49,800 Speaker 4: Josh watching you, whenever I watch younger corners and you know, 534 00:22:49,840 --> 00:22:52,560 Speaker 4: getting their opportunity. I'd like to see if they get 535 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,120 Speaker 4: up and how confident they're up and bump and run. 536 00:22:55,240 --> 00:22:57,840 Speaker 4: And you have no problem with that. Matter of fact, 537 00:22:57,920 --> 00:23:01,160 Speaker 4: you were up I think more than and probably anybody 538 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:03,320 Speaker 4: else out there from from a corner standpoint. Is that 539 00:23:03,440 --> 00:23:06,560 Speaker 4: just something that you love in your game or is 540 00:23:06,600 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 4: that something the coaches just said, now we want you 541 00:23:08,800 --> 00:23:09,399 Speaker 4: up in press? 542 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:11,400 Speaker 9: Uh? 543 00:23:11,640 --> 00:23:14,080 Speaker 7: Does on Press's is the part of my game? You know, 544 00:23:14,320 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 7: I'm actually a good impress And and we've played played 545 00:23:18,040 --> 00:23:21,840 Speaker 7: a lot of man a lot, so you know, a 546 00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,480 Speaker 7: grown man player man's game, you know. 547 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:31,040 Speaker 2: So, Josh, you're from Alabama or you played for Alabama 548 00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:34,640 Speaker 2: and uh, there are certain expectations when you you see 549 00:23:34,680 --> 00:23:35,720 Speaker 2: Bama boys. 550 00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 3: Out there on the football field. 551 00:23:37,560 --> 00:23:41,120 Speaker 2: What did you learn during your time at Bama that 552 00:23:41,119 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 2: that you brought to the NFL? And why are guys 553 00:23:43,160 --> 00:23:45,000 Speaker 2: from Bama so successful in the league. 554 00:23:46,680 --> 00:23:49,960 Speaker 7: I mean it's all about standard. You know, you play 555 00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:51,480 Speaker 7: for the name of the doc in your jersey and 556 00:23:51,920 --> 00:23:55,840 Speaker 7: you have to have a highy standard and play plays 557 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:56,439 Speaker 7: as standard. 558 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:02,080 Speaker 4: Hey, Josh, when you're you guys got a deep defensive 559 00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:04,480 Speaker 4: back room. I mean there's the corner of the competition 560 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,720 Speaker 4: is there in the safeties. You know, competition could do 561 00:24:07,760 --> 00:24:11,040 Speaker 4: funny things. The team sometimes guys don't talk that much 562 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:14,359 Speaker 4: because the jobs are at stake another guys, you know, 563 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 4: they're they're a really close knit group of dbs. What 564 00:24:17,760 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 4: what's your what's your your group together when you're in 565 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:21,159 Speaker 4: those meeting rooms. 566 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,840 Speaker 7: I mean, we have a great group of guys. Junior Luve, 567 00:24:26,800 --> 00:24:30,879 Speaker 7: we have Williams, whatspone. You know, all those guys are 568 00:24:30,880 --> 00:24:35,479 Speaker 7: great guys. We know we're here to win games, and 569 00:24:35,880 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 7: we're here to play for each other and net see 570 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 7: each other. 571 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:39,480 Speaker 6: You know. 572 00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: Carl Scott is you know, one of your coaches. Obviously, 573 00:24:45,840 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 2: what's he like? 574 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:47,160 Speaker 3: Because all I. 575 00:24:47,119 --> 00:24:49,399 Speaker 2: Get from Carl Scott is what I see on the 576 00:24:49,480 --> 00:24:51,960 Speaker 2: practice field and whatever I pick up. 577 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,400 Speaker 3: On YouTube and I'm watching them speak to the masses. 578 00:24:55,760 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 7: Describe what he is, oh man, coach Scott, He's he's 579 00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:01,359 Speaker 7: a great, great coach. 580 00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:02,760 Speaker 3: You know. 581 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:07,640 Speaker 7: He keeps us on top of the line on Nicola State, 582 00:25:07,720 --> 00:25:12,160 Speaker 7: focused on and and generally he is a great guy 583 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:13,800 Speaker 7: off the field and on the soil. 584 00:25:16,520 --> 00:25:18,880 Speaker 4: Hey, the one thing about you, and I think part 585 00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:22,359 Speaker 4: of why you didn't look daunted at all in this 586 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:24,840 Speaker 4: game is Look, you've been around the block a bit. 587 00:25:25,240 --> 00:25:27,520 Speaker 4: You know, you're at Alabama started the last two years. 588 00:25:27,520 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 4: Ere you win a national championship, you get some time 589 00:25:31,160 --> 00:25:35,320 Speaker 4: at Philadelphia. I'm watching you in this game and just 590 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:38,720 Speaker 4: the way you're move How do you end up in Seattle? 591 00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,359 Speaker 5: Did you have other teams looking for you as well? 592 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:49,760 Speaker 7: I mean other other teams didn't didn't want me and 593 00:25:49,760 --> 00:25:52,240 Speaker 7: and I think I think the Seattle will give me 594 00:25:52,240 --> 00:25:55,639 Speaker 7: the opportunity to come into the organization and be successful. 595 00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:00,320 Speaker 2: So you're you're from Florida. That's that's a law. Long 596 00:26:00,520 --> 00:26:03,400 Speaker 2: flight brother, Florida, Uh to Washington? 597 00:26:03,840 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 3: What's that? 598 00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:04,479 Speaker 6: Uh? 599 00:26:04,560 --> 00:26:07,040 Speaker 2: That transition? Obviously you're in Philadelphia for a little bit. 600 00:26:07,080 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 2: But uh, but what's it like in the Northwest? How 601 00:26:08,840 --> 00:26:09,800 Speaker 2: are you enjoying it so far? 602 00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 7: I'm enjoying man. It's pre it's it's cold, it's peaceful, 603 00:26:16,080 --> 00:26:20,679 Speaker 7: and it's just a new environment to get adjusted to. Well, 604 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 7: I love it and Seattle daugh. 605 00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:26,560 Speaker 4: Well, the twelves are gonna love you too. So the 606 00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:29,320 Speaker 4: one thing is you know they're they're diehard fans here, 607 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:33,320 Speaker 4: so so enjoy that. Hey, looking ahead for the Bills, Uh, 608 00:26:33,880 --> 00:26:37,040 Speaker 4: good matchup, good team five and two. Josh Allen obviously 609 00:26:37,720 --> 00:26:40,920 Speaker 4: a special quarterback. What do you guys see there? What 610 00:26:41,080 --> 00:26:43,440 Speaker 4: kind of challenges do they bring to you guys this week? 611 00:26:45,440 --> 00:26:48,399 Speaker 7: But you know he's he's just from at quarterback. We 612 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 7: just have to anticipate. We have to just play without 613 00:26:51,000 --> 00:26:55,040 Speaker 7: instinct and wherever the play call coach give us, we 614 00:26:55,080 --> 00:26:58,680 Speaker 7: have to just this adjust to and play hard and 615 00:26:58,680 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 7: and play physical. 616 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,480 Speaker 3: Hey did you have a family at the Atlanta game? 617 00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:06,840 Speaker 2: I know that's not too far from where you're from. 618 00:27:07,000 --> 00:27:10,160 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, I have. I have my girlfriend, my my brother, 619 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 7: my agent, and my cousin there, so I quite a 620 00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:15,879 Speaker 7: ten HL. 621 00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:20,680 Speaker 4: You had a little bit of overlap, brought up coach 622 00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 4: Scott he was at Alabama when you were there also, 623 00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:24,600 Speaker 4: Is that correct? 624 00:27:25,800 --> 00:27:26,560 Speaker 6: Yes? 625 00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:32,040 Speaker 4: What what's different what he taught? Maybe at Alabama? Have 626 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:35,240 Speaker 4: you seen a little bit of change? Is there a 627 00:27:35,280 --> 00:27:37,840 Speaker 4: different scheme to what you ran at Alabama to where 628 00:27:37,840 --> 00:27:43,760 Speaker 4: we are in Seattle's. 629 00:27:41,320 --> 00:27:44,840 Speaker 7: Pretty much there's nothing different, you know, is all the same. 630 00:27:45,119 --> 00:27:48,119 Speaker 7: What coach Scotty coaching me and coaching the secondary? 631 00:27:50,600 --> 00:27:55,640 Speaker 2: What's you played in the toughest conference in college football, 632 00:27:55,720 --> 00:27:58,320 Speaker 2: the SEC And obviously. 633 00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 3: You guys put a lot of guys out. 634 00:27:59,480 --> 00:28:02,520 Speaker 2: But I would assumed that there's still a transition that 635 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 2: happens to the NFL. What was the biggest difference from 636 00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 2: playing in the SEC playing college football to now getting 637 00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:10,080 Speaker 2: reps in the NFL? 638 00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:15,240 Speaker 7: Defense on, I mean, everybody who's good in this league. 639 00:28:15,359 --> 00:28:18,080 Speaker 7: So it's all about technice and fundamentals at the end 640 00:28:18,080 --> 00:28:20,680 Speaker 7: of the day. So that's why she was like different 641 00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:21,400 Speaker 7: in his league. 642 00:28:22,359 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 3: All Right, he is Seahawks corner. 643 00:28:24,080 --> 00:28:27,359 Speaker 2: Josh Joe Man, We appreciate your time, good luck this weekend. 644 00:28:27,520 --> 00:28:28,560 Speaker 3: We hope to talk to you soon. 645 00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:30,720 Speaker 7: Thank you, appreciate y'all. 646 00:28:31,359 --> 00:28:33,560 Speaker 3: All right, that was Josh Joe Moyer. 647 00:28:34,480 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 5: I'll tell you what. He's a good player. 648 00:28:35,960 --> 00:28:36,520 Speaker 3: He is, man. 649 00:28:37,200 --> 00:28:39,360 Speaker 5: I was trying to ask him, how did you end 650 00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:39,800 Speaker 5: up here? 651 00:28:41,000 --> 00:28:45,080 Speaker 4: How were How was other teams not clamoring to get you? 652 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:45,280 Speaker 9: You know? 653 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:49,880 Speaker 4: He again played good football at Alabama. He's got good side. 654 00:28:49,920 --> 00:28:53,040 Speaker 4: He looks like a corner. I was watching him early 655 00:28:53,200 --> 00:28:55,959 Speaker 4: in the game and I was like, man, he is 656 00:28:56,000 --> 00:28:57,200 Speaker 4: not afraid to be up and bob. 657 00:28:57,200 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 5: But I was curious, is that what? Hey? 658 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:02,320 Speaker 4: You know, there some guys, if you're play manned, man, 659 00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 4: you know you can play off, you can be in bump, 660 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 4: you can run out, you can play soft corner. There's 661 00:29:07,120 --> 00:29:09,959 Speaker 4: lots of different techniques to it. I want to did 662 00:29:10,040 --> 00:29:12,880 Speaker 4: they tell you bump and run here or are you 663 00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,080 Speaker 4: one of those? If you've got the option, you're up 664 00:29:15,120 --> 00:29:19,040 Speaker 4: in their face, no fear, quick feet. I mean he 665 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,800 Speaker 4: just I was watching him and Pritchard. I was like, Okay, 666 00:29:22,280 --> 00:29:25,520 Speaker 4: who's the better corner of the two. And Pitcher's got 667 00:29:25,560 --> 00:29:28,240 Speaker 4: some really good speed and closing speed. He's got some 668 00:29:28,280 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 4: Matt beats that are really interesting. But this guy's got 669 00:29:31,560 --> 00:29:34,840 Speaker 4: change of direction, he's strong, he's good and impressed, he's 670 00:29:34,920 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 4: comfortable playing off. I mean I was really I was 671 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:42,719 Speaker 4: very impressed with what we got there, and it just 672 00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:46,120 Speaker 4: adds to the competition. I mean, you got Pritchard, now 673 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:48,720 Speaker 4: you've got him, you got Trey Brown, obviously wool and 674 00:29:48,760 --> 00:29:52,760 Speaker 4: you've got Witherspoon. Unfortunately already burns Now is on IR. 675 00:29:52,800 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 4: But that's a really deep group of people. 676 00:29:56,240 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 10: So sorry, really quick note on Josh Shob You asked 677 00:30:01,280 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 10: of why he got how he ended up in Seattle, 678 00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 10: so he got cut from Philly and everything coming out 679 00:30:05,920 --> 00:30:06,360 Speaker 10: of Philly. 680 00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 3: Said that people were surprised that he got. 681 00:30:08,240 --> 00:30:10,800 Speaker 10: Cut because if you look at Philly last year, he 682 00:30:10,880 --> 00:30:13,920 Speaker 10: played in a team high three hundred and twenty two 683 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:14,840 Speaker 10: special teams plays. 684 00:30:14,840 --> 00:30:15,760 Speaker 3: He was their top gunner. 685 00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:18,120 Speaker 10: He grated out as the number one special teams player 686 00:30:18,160 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 10: on Pro Football Focus. Started three games last year, so 687 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:23,320 Speaker 10: people in Philly were generally surprised. They had to carry 688 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,240 Speaker 10: a couple extra corners. Now, how he got here. Obviously 689 00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:29,640 Speaker 10: John Schneider and the personnel team had eyes on him, 690 00:30:29,640 --> 00:30:31,520 Speaker 10: but it's surprising that no one else reached out because 691 00:30:31,520 --> 00:30:33,640 Speaker 10: he did have some really good film in Philly last year. 692 00:30:34,360 --> 00:30:37,200 Speaker 3: All right, that's our producer, Nasa Choby. 693 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 5: Yeah, thank you. 694 00:30:38,200 --> 00:30:42,320 Speaker 2: It a one time, but Nasa Chokey, he goes, look, man, 695 00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 2: let me hey, I got y'all chill for a little bit. 696 00:30:44,440 --> 00:30:45,840 Speaker 2: I'm gonna take care of I got. 697 00:30:45,640 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 5: That one in my notes. 698 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:51,360 Speaker 4: I was just letting him take all the credit us. 699 00:30:51,400 --> 00:30:54,520 Speaker 2: Well, we're glad that he's here because that dB room 700 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,840 Speaker 2: was extremely deep to start the season, and then you 701 00:30:57,840 --> 00:30:59,960 Speaker 2: see guys start to drop, and then you wonder who's 702 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:02,960 Speaker 2: gonna step up and be the next guy up. And 703 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 2: to be in that position and do that, it's harder 704 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:08,440 Speaker 2: than what people think. I know, people say they prepare 705 00:31:08,520 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 2: like I'm going to be a starter every single week. 706 00:31:10,920 --> 00:31:11,160 Speaker 3: Man. 707 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,440 Speaker 2: I went in the weeks knowing dang well wasn't on 708 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:15,479 Speaker 2: touch the field, you know, and it's different when you 709 00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: have to turn it on and go out there and 710 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:20,480 Speaker 2: actually do it. So to see him have the confidence 711 00:31:20,520 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 2: that you talked about to getting that bump and run 712 00:31:23,320 --> 00:31:26,080 Speaker 2: to be aggressive is a testament to him being prepared 713 00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 2: and the coaches and stealing that confidence in well. 714 00:31:28,680 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 4: He had six tackles, he had two passes defensed. I 715 00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,480 Speaker 4: mean he had there was one. You heard me talk 716 00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 4: about him and Pritcher. I go, oh, man, if he 717 00:31:37,280 --> 00:31:39,520 Speaker 4: just trusts that, just trust, get your feet and go. 718 00:31:40,160 --> 00:31:40,800 Speaker 5: And he was there. 719 00:31:40,840 --> 00:31:43,920 Speaker 4: It was almost like wow, is it you know, is 720 00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,720 Speaker 4: this a setup? I'm right there and you know sometimes 721 00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,280 Speaker 4: he's got to trust your instincts, go and you get 722 00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:51,600 Speaker 4: an interception. Good player though, And I think obviously Carl 723 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 4: Scott having some familiarity with him at Alabama helped, you know, 724 00:31:55,280 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 4: getting him here also. But I am I'm shocked he 725 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 4: wasn't on a team two weeks ago. 726 00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:04,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, Hey, come join us here at Hawk's Live 727 00:32:04,600 --> 00:32:06,480 Speaker 2: at Belvy Square Center Court. Will you have a chance 728 00:32:06,480 --> 00:32:08,720 Speaker 2: to win gift cards from the Dining District at the 729 00:32:08,720 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 2: Bellevue Collection. Tonight they're getting away gift cards to a 730 00:32:11,920 --> 00:32:15,000 Speaker 2: send Prime steak and sushi and castilla. When we come back, 731 00:32:15,040 --> 00:32:17,480 Speaker 2: we'll go around the NFL. That is next right here 732 00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 2: on Hawks Live. 733 00:32:21,600 --> 00:32:25,480 Speaker 1: Hawkss Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 734 00:32:25,560 --> 00:32:28,680 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on 735 00:32:28,800 --> 00:32:30,080 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 736 00:32:31,680 --> 00:32:34,760 Speaker 2: This is Hawks Live, presented by the Dining District at 737 00:32:34,800 --> 00:32:37,280 Speaker 2: the Bellevue Collection, every Thursday at seven right here on 738 00:32:37,320 --> 00:32:40,960 Speaker 2: Sales four seven ten. We're at Belvy Square Center corner 739 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 2: with my guy, Paul Moya. I'm Michael Bumpus, and we 740 00:32:44,440 --> 00:32:49,920 Speaker 2: are with the greatest fans in all the land. Yeah, 741 00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 2: let's go. Let's go, giveaway free stuff. Get the people going. 742 00:32:54,640 --> 00:32:59,120 Speaker 3: All right, man, it's we're going around the NFL. And 743 00:32:59,160 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 3: I'm a big confused right now. 744 00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:05,520 Speaker 2: I'm confused because the Los Angeles Rams are winning twenty 745 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,600 Speaker 2: eight to twenty. They're beating the Minnesota Vikings, the same 746 00:33:09,800 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 2: Rams who feel like they're trying to start all over. 747 00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:15,920 Speaker 2: They said, Matthew Stafford is out there if you want 748 00:33:16,000 --> 00:33:18,800 Speaker 2: him Cooper cup is out there if you want him. 749 00:33:19,120 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 2: It's it's weird for them to put all of that 750 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,760 Speaker 2: out there yet still go out there and compete with 751 00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,760 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings. So they don't look at the Vikings 752 00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:28,920 Speaker 2: and I go, have you been fooling us this whole time? 753 00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,320 Speaker 2: Have you been lying to my face? Are you really 754 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,320 Speaker 2: not that good of a football team? They are in 755 00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,560 Speaker 2: a great division, the NFC North, I feel like, is 756 00:33:35,800 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 2: one of the best in that the best division in football. 757 00:33:38,760 --> 00:33:41,320 Speaker 2: So yeah, man, what do you make of this whole situation? 758 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,560 Speaker 4: The c NFL it's every single week, it doesn't matter. 759 00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,720 Speaker 4: I mean injuries, next guy up. We had Josh Joe, 760 00:33:48,880 --> 00:33:51,160 Speaker 4: you know, played great football last week. We thought we 761 00:33:51,160 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 4: were in trouble with Wollen and all those guys out. 762 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 4: So the Rams have talent. You know, they still have Stafford, 763 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 4: They have a defense at young you know, they figure 764 00:34:00,200 --> 00:34:04,080 Speaker 4: had all play together. The Minnesota starts coming back down 765 00:34:04,120 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 4: to Earth. I'll send you lose one game, you go, oh, 766 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:09,319 Speaker 4: we are mortal. Wait a minute, you know, maybe our 767 00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,440 Speaker 4: quarterback there's a reason why he's been a journeyman along 768 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 4: the way, So you know, there's lots of reasons for 769 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:19,279 Speaker 4: it for me. I'd like the Rams to lose right 770 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:21,120 Speaker 4: now because I just want to get them out of 771 00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:24,839 Speaker 4: the way, let them start selling off. I mean, you know, 772 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:29,920 Speaker 4: there's talk about Cooper Cup getting traded. I don't think. 773 00:34:30,239 --> 00:34:33,759 Speaker 4: I don't see it happening because he's been injured so much. 774 00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:36,480 Speaker 4: In the cap hit for the Rams and what somebody 775 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,040 Speaker 4: would have to take on. I think it's twenty six, 776 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:42,000 Speaker 4: twenty seven million, so a lot of stuff there that 777 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 4: I don't know. I dislike the Rams so much just 778 00:34:47,760 --> 00:34:50,560 Speaker 4: about that. Just I'm doing just the scouts below the 779 00:34:50,600 --> 00:34:54,239 Speaker 4: forty nine ers. I just want them done. I just 780 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 4: want them to move on, rebuild, and then let the Seahawks, 781 00:34:58,600 --> 00:35:01,200 Speaker 4: you know, take over for the this division for the 782 00:35:01,200 --> 00:35:02,040 Speaker 4: next five years. 783 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:05,040 Speaker 2: I'm with you one hundred percent. It looks like they're 784 00:35:05,120 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 2: not just gonna move on. It looks like they're putting 785 00:35:08,280 --> 00:35:10,360 Speaker 2: up a fire. Twenty eight to twenty with five minutes, 786 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:13,279 Speaker 2: twenty seconds left in the game, and they're on the road. 787 00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:16,239 Speaker 2: Actually no, they're at home, actually against the Minnesota device. 788 00:35:16,320 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 5: It probably feels like a road game. 789 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:20,720 Speaker 3: It always feels like a road game in LA for sure. 790 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 2: Oh man, let's talk about these Cleveland Browns man, you 791 00:35:24,480 --> 00:35:28,520 Speaker 2: make the worst decision in franchise history. You bring over 792 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:31,840 Speaker 2: to Shaun Watson with all the drama that he brings, 793 00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 2: and then you pay him a guaranteed contract. He now 794 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 2: ruptures his achilles, and you get rid of Amari Cooper. 795 00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:42,200 Speaker 2: You have arguably the best defensive player in the game 796 00:35:42,239 --> 00:35:44,960 Speaker 2: on your team. I mean, if you're the Cleveland Browns, 797 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:46,439 Speaker 2: where do you go from here? 798 00:35:47,120 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 3: You got to get a new general manager. 799 00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:54,440 Speaker 4: I mean it's just that decision, the you know, the 800 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:58,040 Speaker 4: whole Watson decision. And you know there was things on 801 00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:00,759 Speaker 4: film before that too, right. I mean, he had some 802 00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:03,680 Speaker 4: great years, don't get me wrong. You know, really good 803 00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:06,399 Speaker 4: with his legs at the time. You know he was young. 804 00:36:06,480 --> 00:36:08,799 Speaker 4: I get it. But the risk of what they did, 805 00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 4: every dollar is guaranteed for them not to put in 806 00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 4: the contract any kind of way out. 807 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 5: It's nuts to me. They're done. 808 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:22,279 Speaker 4: I mean that will set them back another three or 809 00:36:22,320 --> 00:36:26,800 Speaker 4: four years. Now they have Jameis and Winston who can play. 810 00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:28,920 Speaker 4: I mean, you get a veteran guy in there. They 811 00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 4: have not scored twenty points in seven games. I mean 812 00:36:31,960 --> 00:36:36,719 Speaker 4: these are nineteen ninety two Seattle Seahawks offense numbers. I 813 00:36:36,719 --> 00:36:39,759 Speaker 4: mean it's really bad. So I don't know. I mean 814 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:41,640 Speaker 4: part of me doesn't really care. I mean, I know 815 00:36:41,719 --> 00:36:44,000 Speaker 4: some people were saying, ah, he shouldn't have got booed 816 00:36:44,040 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 4: when he hit his achilles. 817 00:36:46,080 --> 00:36:47,920 Speaker 5: I mean, that's not why they booed. 818 00:36:48,080 --> 00:36:50,840 Speaker 4: I mean there's other people in there spattering to booze 819 00:36:50,840 --> 00:36:53,640 Speaker 4: for other reasons, would be my guess. But they might 820 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:56,319 Speaker 4: be a better team now with him injured because he 821 00:36:56,520 --> 00:36:57,880 Speaker 4: looked awful. 822 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 2: Jameis Winston said to get the start over there, dtr 823 00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:05,720 Speaker 2: filled in last week. I believe he threw two interceptions. 824 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:07,960 Speaker 2: So now you move on to Jamis. I want to 825 00:37:07,960 --> 00:37:10,360 Speaker 2: see Jamis play just for the soundbites. It's gonna be 826 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:15,399 Speaker 2: entertaining and post game when he talks to the meat 827 00:37:15,440 --> 00:37:16,480 Speaker 2: and so I'm excited about that. 828 00:37:16,560 --> 00:37:18,240 Speaker 5: Do you remember when he first came in the league. 829 00:37:18,400 --> 00:37:20,440 Speaker 4: Yeah, did you ever hear some of his speeches? 830 00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:21,560 Speaker 5: Yeah, they were horrible. 831 00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:24,359 Speaker 3: They're great at the same time. 832 00:37:24,760 --> 00:37:30,880 Speaker 4: But he's turned into this guy who's become a motivational speaker. 833 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:33,000 Speaker 5: I mean that's just maturity. 834 00:37:32,360 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 4: And age, right, And you know he's I think now. 835 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 4: I mean I listened to him and I go, Okay. 836 00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,960 Speaker 3: He's got you fooled. It's all. 837 00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 2: I think he just leaned into just being silly and 838 00:37:43,800 --> 00:37:45,120 Speaker 2: just dramatic. 839 00:37:45,600 --> 00:37:48,560 Speaker 3: And but yeah, if you like him, I love him though, 840 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:50,840 Speaker 3: so you know, I don't know for Jamis. 841 00:37:50,920 --> 00:37:53,360 Speaker 5: I like some of his speeches. They're kind of funny. 842 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:56,280 Speaker 2: Oh man, all right, So the Buccaneers, man, goodness gracious, 843 00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:59,280 Speaker 2: the Buccaneers. You lose Mike Evans to a hamstring injury 844 00:37:59,480 --> 00:38:02,080 Speaker 2: and then what a minute left on the clock, Godwin 845 00:38:02,239 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: goes down and Todd Balls is getting a lot of 846 00:38:05,360 --> 00:38:08,440 Speaker 2: phlak for having him in the games too. Me personally, 847 00:38:08,840 --> 00:38:11,400 Speaker 2: this is football, this is the NFL. It's not high school. 848 00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 2: It's not you. You play your guys until they can't 849 00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,560 Speaker 2: go anymore. I understand hindsight's always twenty twenty. People are 850 00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,799 Speaker 2: gonna judge him, But the Buccaneers are one of the 851 00:38:21,840 --> 00:38:24,440 Speaker 2: teams that I said on bumpa Stacey. 852 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:25,919 Speaker 3: Today should look to get Cooper Cup. 853 00:38:25,960 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 2: If you're really trying to enhance your offense and help Baker, 854 00:38:30,280 --> 00:38:32,799 Speaker 2: who's having a decent year minus the game the other night, 855 00:38:33,719 --> 00:38:35,480 Speaker 2: you go ahead and put your bid in for Cooper Cup, 856 00:38:35,560 --> 00:38:38,719 Speaker 2: especially because the Rams say they are willing to take 857 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:39,960 Speaker 2: on some of that cap hit. 858 00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:42,840 Speaker 4: Yeah. I mean there's two teams that are on a 859 00:38:42,880 --> 00:38:45,719 Speaker 4: bit of a free fall, and I think one is 860 00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:46,400 Speaker 4: New Orleans. 861 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:47,840 Speaker 5: I mean New Orleans came out the first. 862 00:38:47,719 --> 00:38:49,640 Speaker 4: Two games of the year and we all go, Wow, 863 00:38:49,920 --> 00:38:51,920 Speaker 4: this team scoring forty points a game. 864 00:38:52,360 --> 00:38:53,279 Speaker 5: They're unbelievable. 865 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 4: And now they've lost five games in a row, and 866 00:38:55,120 --> 00:38:57,239 Speaker 4: Tampa Bay has a chance to go do the same thing, 867 00:38:57,800 --> 00:38:59,960 Speaker 4: you know, just they're so beat up. I think losing 868 00:39:00,040 --> 00:39:03,040 Speaker 4: Godwin Evans is really good too. Godwin's got that speed, 869 00:39:03,480 --> 00:39:07,840 Speaker 4: you know when Yeah, he two really good wide receivers. 870 00:39:08,320 --> 00:39:09,880 Speaker 4: I don't know how you come back from that. I 871 00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,880 Speaker 4: think Baker Mayfield is kind of proven that he is 872 00:39:12,960 --> 00:39:15,120 Speaker 4: a good quarterback in this league. But I think he's 873 00:39:15,160 --> 00:39:18,120 Speaker 4: also a quarterback that he got to have all the 874 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 4: parts around him, right when you're just a bit undersized 875 00:39:22,320 --> 00:39:24,960 Speaker 4: in that this league, man, he just there's not a 876 00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,480 Speaker 4: lot of margin for air. So all good for the Seahawks. 877 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 4: You know, teams that you know, you want any everybody 878 00:39:30,840 --> 00:39:33,680 Speaker 4: in the NFC to lose. Yeah, it's just bottom line. 879 00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:36,399 Speaker 4: Hopefully we can win the division, but if we can't, 880 00:39:36,400 --> 00:39:39,120 Speaker 4: you want obviously an opportunity to get a wild card spot. 881 00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:44,000 Speaker 2: Speaking of the division, the forty nine ers, goodness, gracious, 882 00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:48,800 Speaker 2: you got Iu who has pneumonia symptoms. Obviously McCaffrey is out, Brandon, 883 00:39:48,880 --> 00:39:52,240 Speaker 2: I you this is why listen, people don't like players 884 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:52,839 Speaker 2: holding out. 885 00:39:53,080 --> 00:39:55,319 Speaker 3: This is why you hold out because you never know 886 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:56,319 Speaker 3: when you're gonna go. 887 00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 2: And it's a cl gets blown out after he gets paid. 888 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:02,279 Speaker 2: It's not looking good for the Niners, and guys are 889 00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,319 Speaker 2: gonna get healthy. Kittle has an ankle thing going on 890 00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:07,440 Speaker 2: as well. I'm looking at Brock Party and I'm asking, 891 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,799 Speaker 2: all right, can you be the guy to elevate the 892 00:40:09,880 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 2: talent around you, because that's what the great quarterbacks do. 893 00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:14,799 Speaker 2: Party has been in such a great situation when he 894 00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 2: comes to his talent, the coaching, the division. Now the 895 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,960 Speaker 2: weight is on his shoulders. What do you make of 896 00:40:22,000 --> 00:40:24,000 Speaker 2: the situation over there in San Francisco? 897 00:40:24,239 --> 00:40:27,080 Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean they're getting older, they've you know, their 898 00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:31,279 Speaker 4: salary cap situation is brutal. You know, if you can 899 00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 4: get McCaffrey back, I think you got a chance because 900 00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:40,160 Speaker 4: he's so explosive. Samuel is still a guy that's very explosive. 901 00:40:40,280 --> 00:40:44,320 Speaker 4: Jenning's good wide receiver, Kittle. They they've got weapons. Their defense, 902 00:40:44,480 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 4: obviously Fred Warner in the middle. They got a good 903 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 4: defensive front as well. Their offensive line has struggled a 904 00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:53,160 Speaker 4: little bit as good as they are, I mean, they're 905 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:56,160 Speaker 4: really good. Their centers fantastic. Obviously, Trent Williams is still, 906 00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:59,719 Speaker 4: you know, playing at a high level. But here's what 907 00:41:00,200 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 4: now with brock Party, every team knows his strength and 908 00:41:06,080 --> 00:41:09,160 Speaker 4: weakness now, every team. And he's good. He's good in 909 00:41:09,200 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 4: the pocket, he's good with his feet, he's good. 910 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:11,720 Speaker 5: At buying time. 911 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,960 Speaker 4: But they're going to take away your strength and force 912 00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:18,160 Speaker 4: you into your weakness, and they're going to crowd the 913 00:41:18,200 --> 00:41:20,319 Speaker 4: middle of the field. He's really good in the middle 914 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:24,399 Speaker 4: of the field, and he's had three interceptions last week. 915 00:41:25,000 --> 00:41:28,400 Speaker 4: Everybody's gonna copy that game plan. They still going to 916 00:41:28,480 --> 00:41:32,239 Speaker 4: match up. Obviously, from a talent standpoint, this is it. 917 00:41:32,280 --> 00:41:33,919 Speaker 4: I think this is why the Seahawks went and got 918 00:41:34,320 --> 00:41:37,600 Speaker 4: Roberts and Harris. I think this is why we shored 919 00:41:37,680 --> 00:41:39,879 Speaker 4: up our linebacker spot. I think this is why we're 920 00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:43,359 Speaker 4: getting healthier, hopefully at the offensive line. Hopefully we get back. 921 00:41:43,360 --> 00:41:46,400 Speaker 4: We're gonna have Durell here as well. I think the 922 00:41:46,440 --> 00:41:49,040 Speaker 4: Seahawks realized this is an opportunity to win the division 923 00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:49,520 Speaker 4: this year. 924 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:52,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel it. That's why they're making these moves. 925 00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:54,520 Speaker 2: Make this team better and take advantage of a division 926 00:41:54,920 --> 00:41:57,640 Speaker 2: that seems to be wounded right now. But the Rams 927 00:41:57,960 --> 00:42:00,520 Speaker 2: trying to change all of that, but work to do 928 00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:02,719 Speaker 2: all right. When we come back, we will go inside 929 00:42:02,760 --> 00:42:06,280 Speaker 2: the film room. We got Ken Walker's twenty yard touchdown run. 930 00:42:06,560 --> 00:42:09,520 Speaker 2: We got Geno Smith, find a dk Metcalf and then 931 00:42:09,560 --> 00:42:12,200 Speaker 2: we have Boyer Mafe stripsack of Kirk Cousins. 932 00:42:12,360 --> 00:42:13,919 Speaker 3: That is next right here on Hawk's Lot. 933 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,440 Speaker 1: Hawks Slive presented by the Dining District at the Bellevue 934 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:22,240 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court every Thursday from seven 935 00:42:22,280 --> 00:42:25,759 Speaker 1: to nine, live on air on Seattle Sports Now. If 936 00:42:25,760 --> 00:42:28,240 Speaker 1: you're your hosts, Michael Bumpis and Paul. 937 00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:33,600 Speaker 2: Moyer, welcome back to Hawk's Liva. Michael Pumpas with Paul Moyer. 938 00:42:33,640 --> 00:42:36,719 Speaker 2: Every Thursday, we are right here at seven o'clock on 939 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,600 Speaker 2: Seattle Sports seven ten A. Make sure you get out 940 00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:42,880 Speaker 2: to the Bellevue Collection Dining District. 941 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:44,640 Speaker 3: So many great restaurants to choose from. 942 00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,880 Speaker 2: Today we had our pre show meal at Earl's I 943 00:42:48,040 --> 00:42:51,600 Speaker 2: had the chicken sandwich tread for fies. 944 00:42:51,920 --> 00:42:54,120 Speaker 3: It was bomb. It was good. It was good. What 945 00:42:54,200 --> 00:42:54,680 Speaker 3: you have Moore? 946 00:42:55,160 --> 00:42:59,239 Speaker 4: I had the grilled salmon, some wild rice. I did 947 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:01,319 Speaker 4: get a couple of cheese cakes to go. They did 948 00:43:01,440 --> 00:43:04,960 Speaker 4: mention was a Chilean sea bass. I think it was 949 00:43:05,040 --> 00:43:08,920 Speaker 4: Chilean sea bass. Looked amazing, but I'd already ordered the salmon. 950 00:43:08,920 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 4: And then they said they've completely redone their menu. So 951 00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:13,800 Speaker 4: if those who've been into Earls before, which I've always 952 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,239 Speaker 4: liked their food, completely different menu. They talked about if 953 00:43:17,280 --> 00:43:21,120 Speaker 4: you guys were into sushi roles, they've redone those and 954 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:23,400 Speaker 4: they were all raving about it. 955 00:43:23,440 --> 00:43:24,560 Speaker 5: So, yeah, good stuff. 956 00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:27,400 Speaker 2: He said something like the GM. His name was Liam. 957 00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:30,879 Speaker 2: He said, there's like sixteen items on the menu. They 958 00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,160 Speaker 2: got rid of like fifteen of them and they switched 959 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 2: it all up. 960 00:43:33,680 --> 00:43:36,799 Speaker 3: So check out Earls. Man. It was a good situation, 961 00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:37,760 Speaker 3: all right. 962 00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:39,120 Speaker 4: Let's what did I mention? 963 00:43:39,200 --> 00:43:42,040 Speaker 5: Also? Was that Earls? What was so special about Earls? 964 00:43:42,080 --> 00:43:42,920 Speaker 3: What was so special? 965 00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:46,120 Speaker 2: Oh that's where your daughter met her husband, right, daughter 966 00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:49,719 Speaker 2: met her husband well years ago, maybe thirteen years ago. 967 00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,160 Speaker 4: He was bartend And it's funny story because I think 968 00:43:52,160 --> 00:43:56,480 Speaker 4: they're listening right now. My daughter ordered some wine and 969 00:43:56,560 --> 00:43:59,160 Speaker 4: he was bartending at the time, and my son in law, 970 00:43:59,160 --> 00:44:01,360 Speaker 4: who I loved to death, one of my best friends. 971 00:44:02,080 --> 00:44:05,319 Speaker 4: He doesn't know wine, so he makes a recommendation to her. 972 00:44:05,320 --> 00:44:08,200 Speaker 4: It's the only time she's ever taken the asked for 973 00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:11,280 Speaker 4: the wine to go back and give her another another glass. 974 00:44:11,320 --> 00:44:14,800 Speaker 4: So they've been together ever since. Two little beautiful babies. 975 00:44:14,840 --> 00:44:15,879 Speaker 4: And yeah, life was good. 976 00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:17,560 Speaker 2: I think that was on purpose because he wanted to 977 00:44:17,640 --> 00:44:19,919 Speaker 2: keep talking. And then she plows, oh, take this bag, 978 00:44:19,960 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 2: and that's a good move. MoMA, man, that's what he's 979 00:44:22,600 --> 00:44:23,080 Speaker 2: gonna move. 980 00:44:23,120 --> 00:44:23,440 Speaker 3: Good move. 981 00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 2: And Taylor, all right, well, congratulations to the more your family. 982 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,600 Speaker 2: Man at Earls. If you're single, you might meet your 983 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:33,680 Speaker 2: special person. Those you never know go there, you never know. 984 00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:35,840 Speaker 2: All right, man, let's get into the film room. This 985 00:44:35,920 --> 00:44:37,440 Speaker 2: first player, we're gonna break down. 986 00:44:37,239 --> 00:44:38,440 Speaker 3: His kin Walker. 987 00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:40,640 Speaker 2: He runs for a twenty yard touchdown early in the 988 00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:41,560 Speaker 2: second quarter. 989 00:44:41,640 --> 00:44:43,799 Speaker 11: Second down and fib a hand off to Walker. He's 990 00:44:43,800 --> 00:44:47,520 Speaker 11: down of the fifteen turns up field ten five touchdown 991 00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:53,840 Speaker 11: Shayhawks Ken Walker the third over the right side, who says, 992 00:44:53,880 --> 00:44:57,560 Speaker 11: those are rookies playing up there? Big hole Walker takes 993 00:44:57,560 --> 00:45:00,440 Speaker 11: her to the house from twenty yards out and the 994 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:03,200 Speaker 11: Sea Yawks are a point away from going up ten 995 00:45:03,280 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 11: to nothing over the home standing falcon. 996 00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:08,440 Speaker 2: All right, that play right there. It was simple as 997 00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,240 Speaker 2: like a zone, right, all right. And what we're seeing, 998 00:45:11,640 --> 00:45:17,719 Speaker 2: what we're seeing is we got our produce in our ear. 999 00:45:17,880 --> 00:45:20,600 Speaker 2: I told him he didn't send the player. He corrected 1000 00:45:20,600 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 2: me real quick. All right, I got it, I got it, 1001 00:45:23,080 --> 00:45:25,600 Speaker 2: all right. So what happened is it's pretty much a 1002 00:45:25,680 --> 00:45:27,960 Speaker 2: zone right right. It's a zone, right. So all that 1003 00:45:28,000 --> 00:45:30,279 Speaker 2: means is everybody is blocking the guy in front of 1004 00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,640 Speaker 2: them essentially into the right side. 1005 00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:34,040 Speaker 3: You got the big boys. 1006 00:45:34,040 --> 00:45:36,160 Speaker 2: You got Michael Jarrell, who will talk to later, and 1007 00:45:36,200 --> 00:45:39,000 Speaker 2: you'll also have Chris Haynes and those. 1008 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:39,840 Speaker 3: Guys just dominate. 1009 00:45:39,920 --> 00:45:42,960 Speaker 2: You got body on a body, and then that the 1010 00:45:43,000 --> 00:45:45,239 Speaker 2: center does a good job climb into the second level 1011 00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:47,640 Speaker 2: taking care of the Mike linebackers. So all you have 1012 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:50,719 Speaker 2: to do if you're Ken Walker is make that safety miss. 1013 00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:54,200 Speaker 2: The most disrespectful part of this run is the block 1014 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:56,799 Speaker 2: by DK Metcalf. You guys are watching, that's a block 1015 00:45:56,840 --> 00:45:59,640 Speaker 2: with DK had one hand on a man. It was 1016 00:45:59,680 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 2: just dominate him. Me and DK would have to fight 1017 00:46:02,000 --> 00:46:03,719 Speaker 2: after that. You're not going to do me like that 1018 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:08,319 Speaker 2: on TV? But yeah, what are you gonna do? I'm 1019 00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,759 Speaker 2: doing something. I'm swing, I'm getting pillowy, your know what. 1020 00:46:10,880 --> 00:46:13,359 Speaker 4: He would put his hand on the top of your head, 1021 00:46:13,480 --> 00:46:15,200 Speaker 4: been like you your little kid coming up. 1022 00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:19,279 Speaker 3: You'd be swinging exactly what it was. 1023 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:21,839 Speaker 2: But nonetheless been that right side of the offensive line. 1024 00:46:21,840 --> 00:46:23,960 Speaker 2: Did a great job, Kenn Walker being the special runner. 1025 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:27,040 Speaker 4: He is our rookies man. You described it well. I mean, 1026 00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,640 Speaker 4: you know, off set, you know K nine to the left, 1027 00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 4: but he ends up going back to the right between. 1028 00:46:32,000 --> 00:46:32,840 Speaker 5: Our garden tackle. 1029 00:46:32,880 --> 00:46:35,600 Speaker 4: It's just a great block by Michael Jirell and and 1030 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 4: our other rookie and Chris Haynes. I mean, that's the future, 1031 00:46:38,960 --> 00:46:41,920 Speaker 4: you guys is there and it's a really well blocked 1032 00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 4: And here's the one thing. Once K nine gets into 1033 00:46:45,800 --> 00:46:50,239 Speaker 4: the open field and works towards the corner, there's no 1034 00:46:50,280 --> 00:46:52,560 Speaker 4: one fast enough to get him, and it's touchdown. This 1035 00:46:52,640 --> 00:46:56,040 Speaker 4: is now at least three of his touchdowns have been 1036 00:46:56,239 --> 00:47:00,640 Speaker 4: a similar type of uh finishing run by K nine. 1037 00:47:00,760 --> 00:47:01,759 Speaker 3: Yep, all right. 1038 00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:04,959 Speaker 2: This next play, Geno Smith finds DK metcalf or thirty 1039 00:47:05,000 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 2: one guard touchdown right before halftime, third. 1040 00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:11,359 Speaker 11: Down in fifteen Geno from the shotgun, three man rush. 1041 00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,359 Speaker 3: Gino steps up. He's gonna throw the end zone. 1042 00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 8: Dka, he's got it. Touch down, Sayhawks, What a bullet 1043 00:47:20,160 --> 00:47:21,800 Speaker 8: thrown by Geno. 1044 00:47:22,040 --> 00:47:25,160 Speaker 3: Smith dk metcalf again between. 1045 00:47:24,840 --> 00:47:30,759 Speaker 11: Two defenders underneath the goalposts, makes the reception on an 1046 00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:36,600 Speaker 11: absolute dime from thirty one out. Holy Catfish want to 1047 00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:39,800 Speaker 11: play by the Hawks. They make it sixteen to seven, 1048 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:43,320 Speaker 11: and the fans here in Atlanta are just stunned. 1049 00:47:44,280 --> 00:47:45,040 Speaker 3: What'd you see more? 1050 00:47:45,160 --> 00:47:48,680 Speaker 5: Ah man, this is so good, you guys. Yeah. 1051 00:47:48,719 --> 00:47:52,480 Speaker 4: First of all, let's just talk about the situation. They 1052 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,320 Speaker 4: already know I'm going kick the field goal. Kick the field. 1053 00:47:56,320 --> 00:48:00,960 Speaker 4: We got no timeouts left, defenses are top. Don't give 1054 00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:03,799 Speaker 4: up a touchdown at this point, give up the field goal. 1055 00:48:04,400 --> 00:48:07,520 Speaker 4: Clearly Atlanta had shown something on film. They go and 1056 00:48:07,560 --> 00:48:11,080 Speaker 4: play a Tampa two Cover two. You do not want 1057 00:48:11,120 --> 00:48:14,000 Speaker 4: to play cover two down in the red zone. It's 1058 00:48:14,360 --> 00:48:17,920 Speaker 4: really hard on the safeties. It's just too much for 1059 00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,600 Speaker 4: me to cover. So I've got to protect the outside 1060 00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:25,480 Speaker 4: field of the field towards the sideline. So I've got 1061 00:48:25,480 --> 00:48:28,080 Speaker 4: to honor that. So the weakness of the defenses. You 1062 00:48:28,080 --> 00:48:31,479 Speaker 4: pull both the safeties wide towards the sideline the weeks 1063 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:34,319 Speaker 4: and defenses down the middle. Well, Tampa two is you 1064 00:48:34,360 --> 00:48:37,480 Speaker 4: have a linebacker sprint down the middle of the field 1065 00:48:37,480 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 4: and almost plays like a. 1066 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:40,480 Speaker 5: Deep third safety. 1067 00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:44,160 Speaker 4: Also, that sounds really good on paper, except when you 1068 00:48:44,280 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 4: have a guy like DK Metcalf who's running down the 1069 00:48:47,600 --> 00:48:51,680 Speaker 4: seam just widens the nickel just enough. To me, they 1070 00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:53,799 Speaker 4: played it. They didn't play it right. You've got to 1071 00:48:53,840 --> 00:48:57,040 Speaker 4: widen that slot guy. You can't let him go down 1072 00:48:57,080 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 4: the middle. You got to push him to the safety. 1073 00:48:59,120 --> 00:49:01,359 Speaker 4: The best you can see, he has a chance to 1074 00:49:01,360 --> 00:49:04,680 Speaker 4: make that play. So there's ten seconds left, and I'm like, 1075 00:49:05,120 --> 00:49:08,000 Speaker 4: we got no time out, so they're gonna play the 1076 00:49:08,080 --> 00:49:10,239 Speaker 4: sideline not to give up any more yards, and they're 1077 00:49:10,239 --> 00:49:12,480 Speaker 4: gonna protect the end zone or they didn't protect the 1078 00:49:12,520 --> 00:49:15,600 Speaker 4: end zone. So we're watching the play in McDonald's Actually, 1079 00:49:15,600 --> 00:49:18,040 Speaker 4: Coach McDonald explained it awesome. He goes the first thing 1080 00:49:18,080 --> 00:49:21,680 Speaker 4: I was watching was the protection, and the protection was 1081 00:49:21,680 --> 00:49:24,719 Speaker 4: pretty good, and Gino stepped up in the pocket. So 1082 00:49:24,800 --> 00:49:27,480 Speaker 4: now there's nowhere to go. So the ball has to 1083 00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:29,799 Speaker 4: come out of his hand and he go and coach 1084 00:49:29,880 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 4: McDonald says, Wow, he's you know, he's gonna he's gonna 1085 00:49:33,040 --> 00:49:35,160 Speaker 4: let it go, or he's he's gonna take the shot 1086 00:49:35,480 --> 00:49:37,719 Speaker 4: type of thing. And I said the same thing. I 1087 00:49:37,760 --> 00:49:41,120 Speaker 4: was like, oh, he's taking the shot here. That ball 1088 00:49:41,239 --> 00:49:44,239 Speaker 4: traveled forty one to forty two yards in the air. 1089 00:49:44,320 --> 00:49:47,400 Speaker 4: He threw it from the thirty seven yard line. DK 1090 00:49:47,560 --> 00:49:50,240 Speaker 4: Kent caught at four five yards into the end zone. 1091 00:49:50,360 --> 00:49:52,200 Speaker 5: That is a long throw. 1092 00:49:52,680 --> 00:49:55,160 Speaker 4: And then again it's now there's four seconds left on 1093 00:49:55,200 --> 00:49:57,840 Speaker 4: the clock. It's a brilliant throw. It's a brilliant play. 1094 00:49:58,280 --> 00:50:01,640 Speaker 4: It shows the trust that they have, Gino, because there's 1095 00:50:01,640 --> 00:50:05,360 Speaker 4: no timeouts, Gino, you cannot take a sack. We cannot 1096 00:50:05,440 --> 00:50:09,040 Speaker 4: throw this ball in bounds. It has to go somewhere 1097 00:50:09,040 --> 00:50:11,600 Speaker 4: towards the sideline. We get out of bounds immediately, or 1098 00:50:11,640 --> 00:50:14,440 Speaker 4: the shots gotta be into the end zone. Credit to grub, 1099 00:50:14,719 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 4: credit to coach McDonald, credit to Gino. All of that 1100 00:50:17,640 --> 00:50:20,200 Speaker 4: obviously just a great catch by DK. So I just 1101 00:50:20,320 --> 00:50:21,600 Speaker 4: so many great things about that play. 1102 00:50:21,640 --> 00:50:23,160 Speaker 3: All Right, we gotta be quick on this last one. 1103 00:50:23,160 --> 00:50:25,400 Speaker 2: Boy of Mafey strips sack of Kirk Cousins picked up 1104 00:50:25,440 --> 00:50:29,120 Speaker 2: by boy of Mafey ran back for a touchdown pickupber 1105 00:50:29,280 --> 00:50:30,120 Speaker 2: Mafey isn't. 1106 00:50:29,960 --> 00:50:32,880 Speaker 3: There at an inside rushing position. Robinson stays in the 1107 00:50:32,880 --> 00:50:34,240 Speaker 3: backfield for Atlanta. 1108 00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:37,879 Speaker 11: Cousin scrambles left side, gets hit, goes down, maffayt ball 1109 00:50:37,920 --> 00:50:40,320 Speaker 11: comes down, ball rolling picked up farth. 1110 00:50:40,200 --> 00:50:45,560 Speaker 8: Side, gets haul down the far side lines He's gonna score, touchdown, 1111 00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:47,080 Speaker 8: say Hawks. 1112 00:50:48,360 --> 00:50:51,560 Speaker 3: Derek Hall on the sack by boy A moffing. 1113 00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:56,960 Speaker 11: Cousins coughs it up and Hall goes the distance the 1114 00:50:57,160 --> 00:51:00,560 Speaker 11: second your linebacker out of Auburn. He probably he has 1115 00:51:01,600 --> 00:51:05,320 Speaker 11: a sweet full of family and friends here watching. Cousins 1116 00:51:05,320 --> 00:51:08,640 Speaker 11: had nowhere to go with the ball. It's knocked away 1117 00:51:08,680 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 11: from Cousins by boy A. Mafey picked up and Hall 1118 00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:16,279 Speaker 11: takes it thirty six for the touchdown. The Seahawks up 1119 00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:19,799 Speaker 11: thirty to fourteen. Big play right there. 1120 00:51:19,840 --> 00:51:22,120 Speaker 2: You got boy of mafe getting the kirk, Cousins getting 1121 00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,640 Speaker 2: a hand on the football, and d Hall rally into 1122 00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 2: the football, scoop and score taking it to the house. 1123 00:51:28,560 --> 00:51:32,600 Speaker 2: One of three turnovers for your Seahawks. That was a 1124 00:51:32,600 --> 00:51:35,319 Speaker 2: great one. All heart and desire on that play. All right, 1125 00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,440 Speaker 2: when we come back, we will hear our see and 1126 00:51:37,640 --> 00:51:39,960 Speaker 2: talk to Michael Darrell live and in person. 1127 00:51:40,200 --> 00:51:41,920 Speaker 3: That is next right here on Hawks Live. 1128 00:51:44,200 --> 00:51:48,120 Speaker 1: Hawks Slide presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 1129 00:51:48,120 --> 00:51:51,279 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Square Center Court, live on air on 1130 00:51:51,400 --> 00:51:52,840 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 1131 00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 2: This is Hawks Live of Michael bumpas with Paul Moyer. 1132 00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,600 Speaker 2: Every Thursday at seven o'clock, we'll hear and see how 1133 00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 2: the sports seven ten and now we are joined by 1134 00:52:04,360 --> 00:52:05,640 Speaker 2: rookie Michael Drell. 1135 00:52:05,680 --> 00:52:09,200 Speaker 3: Michael, how you doing man? Thanks for joining us on 1136 00:52:09,239 --> 00:52:10,040 Speaker 3: a Thursday. 1137 00:52:10,120 --> 00:52:10,359 Speaker 6: Man. 1138 00:52:11,560 --> 00:52:14,480 Speaker 3: I love one of one. Me and Paul love football. 1139 00:52:14,600 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 2: Like as soon as the Hawks games are over, we're 1140 00:52:17,280 --> 00:52:20,840 Speaker 2: watching film, we're texting each other, and before the game 1141 00:52:20,960 --> 00:52:22,719 Speaker 2: we were saying, all right, let's see what this young 1142 00:52:22,760 --> 00:52:25,719 Speaker 2: man from Finley does. And then after the game we're like, 1143 00:52:25,760 --> 00:52:27,600 Speaker 2: did you see what this young man from Finley did? 1144 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:32,759 Speaker 2: How was your your first like real reps out there 1145 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:34,759 Speaker 2: in the NFL consistently at. 1146 00:52:34,760 --> 00:52:38,120 Speaker 9: Least, I would say, man, Like the feeling I had 1147 00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:38,759 Speaker 9: going into it. 1148 00:52:38,719 --> 00:52:40,200 Speaker 3: Like I was nervous. I hain't gonna lot like that. 1149 00:52:41,000 --> 00:52:42,240 Speaker 3: I had to depend on my vets. 1150 00:52:42,280 --> 00:52:44,120 Speaker 9: And then just some of the other guys in the 1151 00:52:44,200 --> 00:52:46,040 Speaker 9: room and they you know, and I had the whole 1152 00:52:46,040 --> 00:52:48,520 Speaker 9: offense and the whole team behind even you know, everybody 1153 00:52:48,560 --> 00:52:51,319 Speaker 9: was excited for me. But when I got out there 1154 00:52:52,120 --> 00:52:55,120 Speaker 9: the first play, I was like, just run off the 1155 00:52:55,160 --> 00:52:57,960 Speaker 9: ball and you know, be physical. And then after that, 1156 00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:00,719 Speaker 9: I was like, okay, ain is bad. People make it 1157 00:53:00,719 --> 00:53:03,880 Speaker 9: seems like man, but you know it feel good. Was 1158 00:53:03,920 --> 00:53:05,640 Speaker 9: it a run player your first play? I think it 1159 00:53:05,680 --> 00:53:06,239 Speaker 9: was a run play. 1160 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,359 Speaker 4: There you go, No, I'm actually it was play action pass. 1161 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:14,120 Speaker 9: I mean they somebody told me before the game that 1162 00:53:14,200 --> 00:53:16,480 Speaker 9: you won't remember none of the plays yet, like you 1163 00:53:16,480 --> 00:53:18,400 Speaker 9: won't remember and I don't remember any play. I was 1164 00:53:18,400 --> 00:53:20,879 Speaker 9: just out there just like in his own just trying 1165 00:53:20,880 --> 00:53:22,720 Speaker 9: to make sure I had to write assignments and stuff. 1166 00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,480 Speaker 9: But for the most part, I was just trying to 1167 00:53:25,480 --> 00:53:27,719 Speaker 9: just make sure I could put some good stuff on tape, 1168 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:29,560 Speaker 9: you know, let it. I didn't want to be the reason. 1169 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,880 Speaker 9: I didn't want to let the team down. That was 1170 00:53:30,880 --> 00:53:32,359 Speaker 9: like a moment, I don't let the team down, don't 1171 00:53:32,360 --> 00:53:34,920 Speaker 9: be the reason, and that that's the mindset I wasn't. 1172 00:53:34,920 --> 00:53:35,360 Speaker 4: To get you. 1173 00:53:35,400 --> 00:53:36,919 Speaker 5: Definitely didn't let the team down. 1174 00:53:36,960 --> 00:53:39,799 Speaker 4: And look, at the end of the day, it's just football, right, 1175 00:53:39,840 --> 00:53:41,200 Speaker 4: and you've played a lot of football. I mean, you 1176 00:53:41,239 --> 00:53:44,120 Speaker 4: started all four years in college, right, so I mean 1177 00:53:44,160 --> 00:53:46,240 Speaker 4: it's not like you haven't played a lot of football. 1178 00:53:46,320 --> 00:53:52,680 Speaker 4: Now they are bigger, they're faster, they're better. Talk about 1179 00:53:52,719 --> 00:53:56,440 Speaker 4: what your impression was. Okay, wow, this these are live bullets. 1180 00:53:56,640 --> 00:53:58,840 Speaker 4: Did you think it was about what you expected? 1181 00:53:59,120 --> 00:54:00,840 Speaker 5: Easier? Hard? 1182 00:54:02,320 --> 00:54:05,239 Speaker 3: I would say, like it was, it was. I would 1183 00:54:05,239 --> 00:54:06,080 Speaker 3: say it's easier. 1184 00:54:07,160 --> 00:54:09,479 Speaker 9: But because training camp, when you go through a whole 1185 00:54:09,560 --> 00:54:11,799 Speaker 9: NFL training camp, like it's nothing like that. Even those 1186 00:54:11,840 --> 00:54:14,279 Speaker 9: joint practice like those are like wars out there every day. 1187 00:54:14,960 --> 00:54:17,600 Speaker 9: And then even the Seahawks practice that we hadn't over 1188 00:54:17,640 --> 00:54:20,279 Speaker 9: the summer like wars, and then going into the game, 1189 00:54:21,200 --> 00:54:23,360 Speaker 9: it just felt like, I don't know, it just felt 1190 00:54:23,560 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 9: felt easy, felt laxed, you know. But like I mean, 1191 00:54:26,440 --> 00:54:29,280 Speaker 9: obviously like the tensions there because it's the game, money's 1192 00:54:29,280 --> 00:54:32,640 Speaker 9: on the line, playoff potential playoff positions on the line, 1193 00:54:32,719 --> 00:54:34,920 Speaker 9: like all that's on the line, so it's like more intense. 1194 00:54:35,000 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 9: But practices in the summer were definitely harder. 1195 00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:40,680 Speaker 3: Man, do you you have a great story. 1196 00:54:40,760 --> 00:54:43,640 Speaker 2: I was talking to Paul and Nass over dinner and 1197 00:54:43,640 --> 00:54:47,160 Speaker 2: we're saying that you know, because of social media and 1198 00:54:47,239 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 2: just the access people have to you guys, it's it's 1199 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,439 Speaker 2: not surprising that a young man from a D two 1200 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,680 Speaker 2: makes it to the NFL. Man, when did you realize 1201 00:54:56,719 --> 00:54:59,520 Speaker 2: that this was a real thing. I'm sure going into 1202 00:54:59,520 --> 00:55:02,160 Speaker 2: school this was your ultimate goal, but when did it 1203 00:55:02,200 --> 00:55:04,759 Speaker 2: become real, Like, Okay, I could really make this, you know, 1204 00:55:04,840 --> 00:55:05,440 Speaker 2: my life. 1205 00:55:05,280 --> 00:55:05,800 Speaker 3: In the future. 1206 00:55:07,560 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 9: I would say, like when I had got my first start, 1207 00:55:11,320 --> 00:55:13,799 Speaker 9: like my first starting like the full season, like after 1208 00:55:13,800 --> 00:55:15,840 Speaker 9: the pandemic, but after in the full season going to 1209 00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:18,439 Speaker 9: my uh, I think that that was like my fourth 1210 00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,200 Speaker 9: year and I had my first full season starting. The 1211 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:23,000 Speaker 9: first game we played against like the number one team 1212 00:55:23,120 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 9: at D two, and they had guys that were like 1213 00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:28,000 Speaker 9: the NFL prospects, Like they had a guy Caleb Murphy, 1214 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,919 Speaker 9: and I had a good game miss then it didn't 1215 00:55:30,960 --> 00:55:32,359 Speaker 9: even get it didn't get a I think he may 1216 00:55:32,440 --> 00:55:35,120 Speaker 9: had one pressure, no sacks, and out of the whole 1217 00:55:35,200 --> 00:55:37,759 Speaker 9: entire time I played him like the two games and 1218 00:55:37,800 --> 00:55:39,680 Speaker 9: I was like, Okay, if he's an NFL prospect, I 1219 00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:40,719 Speaker 9: can play at the next level. 1220 00:55:40,760 --> 00:55:42,520 Speaker 3: And then just seeing. 1221 00:55:42,200 --> 00:55:44,279 Speaker 9: Guys that I grow up with, and I'm like, like 1222 00:55:44,560 --> 00:55:46,799 Speaker 9: I remember playing with these dudes, like they get an 1223 00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:48,600 Speaker 9: NFL attention, I can get that too, So I'm like, 1224 00:55:48,880 --> 00:55:52,160 Speaker 9: I can do it. And then once you know, I 1225 00:55:52,239 --> 00:55:55,839 Speaker 9: put him away, started getting stronger, the technique start getting 1226 00:55:55,840 --> 00:55:56,479 Speaker 9: a little bit better. 1227 00:55:56,800 --> 00:55:59,719 Speaker 3: You know, then everything just took off for me. 1228 00:56:01,680 --> 00:56:05,200 Speaker 4: If you played that game again, what did you learn 1229 00:56:05,239 --> 00:56:09,040 Speaker 4: from it? What would you do different? And it could 1230 00:56:09,080 --> 00:56:12,600 Speaker 4: be anything, could be technique, it could be you know, 1231 00:56:12,640 --> 00:56:15,880 Speaker 4: the bull rush got me. What is it that you 1232 00:56:16,000 --> 00:56:16,880 Speaker 4: learned in that game? 1233 00:56:18,239 --> 00:56:21,520 Speaker 9: Don't overthink like I learned, don't overthink. I think a 1234 00:56:21,560 --> 00:56:24,600 Speaker 9: little bit of myself. I was overthinking it because like 1235 00:56:25,440 --> 00:56:28,960 Speaker 9: I'm like personally chase of perfection and you ain't gonna 1236 00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:30,759 Speaker 9: have the perfect rip, You're not gonna have your hands 1237 00:56:30,760 --> 00:56:32,400 Speaker 9: in the perfect spot, if your fee's not gonna be 1238 00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:36,000 Speaker 9: in the perfect spot, ahs and everything, and just don't 1239 00:56:36,040 --> 00:56:38,040 Speaker 9: overthink it. Like it's just full of at the end 1240 00:56:38,040 --> 00:56:40,920 Speaker 9: of the day, I mean, obviously, like you said, bigger, faster, stronger, 1241 00:56:40,920 --> 00:56:43,239 Speaker 9: and better football players. But at the end of the day, 1242 00:56:44,000 --> 00:56:45,839 Speaker 9: I'm a grown man. He's a grown man. We put 1243 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,040 Speaker 9: our shoes on the same way. Just go out there 1244 00:56:48,080 --> 00:56:49,600 Speaker 9: and do a job and don't overthink it. 1245 00:56:50,640 --> 00:56:52,920 Speaker 3: What me either. 1246 00:56:52,960 --> 00:56:55,080 Speaker 2: Paul always asked this question, all right, do we go 1247 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:58,480 Speaker 2: back and forth because we both played in one of 1248 00:56:58,520 --> 00:56:59,920 Speaker 2: the things I missed the most. 1249 00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:02,319 Speaker 3: It's just the chatter that happens on a football field. 1250 00:57:02,320 --> 00:57:05,359 Speaker 2: There is nothing like a dudes get borderline crazy out there, 1251 00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:06,759 Speaker 2: and I missed that. 1252 00:57:07,000 --> 00:57:09,759 Speaker 3: What what's your approach? Are you the talking type or 1253 00:57:09,800 --> 00:57:11,759 Speaker 3: you the quiet time? How do you approach it? 1254 00:57:11,840 --> 00:57:14,000 Speaker 9: I'm pretty much quiet until somebody get me riled up 1255 00:57:14,000 --> 00:57:17,280 Speaker 9: for the most part, Like I don't know, like you 1256 00:57:17,640 --> 00:57:20,280 Speaker 9: get to saying something that I don't like, then I okay, 1257 00:57:20,600 --> 00:57:22,920 Speaker 9: Now now we gotta start talking extension words. But for 1258 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,000 Speaker 9: the most part, I like to stay cool, calm, and not. 1259 00:57:25,840 --> 00:57:26,920 Speaker 3: Feed too much into it. 1260 00:57:27,000 --> 00:57:28,920 Speaker 9: Like I'm not gonna do like when I do get going, 1261 00:57:28,920 --> 00:57:30,480 Speaker 9: I'm not gonna do nothing to go get a penalty 1262 00:57:30,600 --> 00:57:32,520 Speaker 9: right and stuff. I'm not gonna I know when to stop. 1263 00:57:32,600 --> 00:57:36,840 Speaker 9: But just you know, we make a big play, I'm 1264 00:57:36,840 --> 00:57:38,880 Speaker 9: gonna talk a little bit. We you know, we get 1265 00:57:38,880 --> 00:57:40,480 Speaker 9: to get a first down, I'm gonna talk a little bit. 1266 00:57:40,840 --> 00:57:43,040 Speaker 9: Or our payingcaking, I'm definitely gonna talk. So it's like 1267 00:57:43,760 --> 00:57:47,600 Speaker 9: I'm a I gotta need some players need some excitement 1268 00:57:47,600 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 9: to have him. 1269 00:57:47,880 --> 00:57:49,280 Speaker 3: Then I say something, Yep. 1270 00:57:49,880 --> 00:57:52,680 Speaker 4: I'm sure there's a few favorite plays in that game. 1271 00:57:52,720 --> 00:57:53,600 Speaker 4: We were just showing. 1272 00:57:53,880 --> 00:57:54,160 Speaker 11: Uh. 1273 00:57:54,320 --> 00:57:57,000 Speaker 4: Actually Steve Rabel made the call. I think it was 1274 00:57:57,080 --> 00:58:00,520 Speaker 4: kidding the first with the first touchdown K nine run, 1275 00:58:00,680 --> 00:58:02,840 Speaker 4: there's forty yard run. You got Christian Haynes was in, 1276 00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:06,280 Speaker 4: You're in, you got the kickout. Christian Haynes looks like 1277 00:58:06,320 --> 00:58:10,760 Speaker 4: he's got the hook. Obviously Canine takes it the distance. 1278 00:58:11,200 --> 00:58:13,360 Speaker 4: I mean, you know, you guys are the future of 1279 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:15,520 Speaker 4: that offensive line. Was there a favorite playing that game 1280 00:58:15,560 --> 00:58:15,919 Speaker 4: for him? 1281 00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:18,120 Speaker 9: I would say that that was probably a favorite play. 1282 00:58:18,320 --> 00:58:22,440 Speaker 9: And that and then the bomb Gino threw down at 1283 00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:24,760 Speaker 9: the end of the half that was special. Yeah, it 1284 00:58:24,840 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 9: was that was a special player. I liked those two plays. 1285 00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:29,280 Speaker 9: And then just getting killed in the end zone. He's 1286 00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:32,160 Speaker 9: sick and stuff like he was sick going through it 1287 00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:33,840 Speaker 9: and I'm like, you could see it. That's why he 1288 00:58:33,840 --> 00:58:35,880 Speaker 9: fell to the ground. He was just like, man, exhausted 1289 00:58:35,960 --> 00:58:37,920 Speaker 9: that but just get It's always good to get your 1290 00:58:38,000 --> 00:58:39,000 Speaker 9: running back into the end zone. 1291 00:58:39,040 --> 00:58:40,439 Speaker 3: I love passing ball. 1292 00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:42,520 Speaker 9: I love I love when the receivers getting there, but 1293 00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:44,640 Speaker 9: when the oat when the runner back gets in the 1294 00:58:44,680 --> 00:58:46,920 Speaker 9: end zone. It's just something special because that shows the 1295 00:58:46,920 --> 00:58:49,840 Speaker 9: true grid of the offensive line and opening up pose 1296 00:58:49,840 --> 00:58:50,160 Speaker 9: and stuff. 1297 00:58:50,200 --> 00:58:51,000 Speaker 3: And that's that's what we. 1298 00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:54,360 Speaker 4: Did that last play before the half. There's ten seconds left, 1299 00:58:54,520 --> 00:58:56,640 Speaker 4: there's no timeouts. You guys are on the thirty one 1300 00:58:56,720 --> 00:59:01,480 Speaker 4: yard line. You know, I'm going to kick the field goal. 1301 00:59:01,800 --> 00:59:03,840 Speaker 4: Got no time as defenses aren't gonna give you a 1302 00:59:03,840 --> 00:59:06,080 Speaker 4: shot in the end zone. They're gonna maybe protect the 1303 00:59:06,120 --> 00:59:09,360 Speaker 4: sidelines a little, but they're in field goal range. What 1304 00:59:09,360 --> 00:59:11,919 Speaker 4: what was said in the huddle? Was there anything said 1305 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:15,080 Speaker 4: by Gino? Because I mean he stepped up in the pocket. 1306 00:59:15,120 --> 00:59:18,520 Speaker 4: Once that happens, there's no point of return there, right, 1307 00:59:18,560 --> 00:59:21,000 Speaker 4: I mean, we can't take a sack. What was said 1308 00:59:21,040 --> 00:59:22,920 Speaker 4: in that just that play because it was such a 1309 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:24,000 Speaker 4: big play in that game. 1310 00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:28,360 Speaker 9: Nothing, it's just snow day in office right there. That's 1311 00:59:28,360 --> 00:59:30,720 Speaker 9: just a you know, get call. You get a ball 1312 00:59:30,760 --> 00:59:32,600 Speaker 9: to seven man, he go make a play, like you 1313 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:34,600 Speaker 9: gonna do something, give him time, he gonna make a play, 1314 00:59:34,680 --> 00:59:37,200 Speaker 9: That's what And that was our Mond says, just make 1315 00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,040 Speaker 9: a play, get get seven time. 1316 00:59:40,000 --> 00:59:43,320 Speaker 3: Yeah. I like that. Yeah, just called a play. I's 1317 00:59:43,320 --> 00:59:44,840 Speaker 3: to play all right, Let's go get it. 1318 00:59:45,360 --> 00:59:47,640 Speaker 9: And that's his that's his mindset going to airy place, 1319 00:59:47,680 --> 00:59:49,240 Speaker 9: because like we got, we got the receivers, we got, 1320 00:59:49,400 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 9: we got all the skills. 1321 00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 3: Just along. 1322 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:54,160 Speaker 9: Okay, I got your back, you got my back. Let's 1323 00:59:54,240 --> 00:59:56,000 Speaker 9: let's give him some time. He's going make a play. 1324 00:59:56,000 --> 00:59:57,880 Speaker 9: And that's that's our misset going on every play. 1325 00:59:58,400 --> 01:00:01,840 Speaker 2: So you you said earlier in our conversation that once 1326 01:00:01,880 --> 01:00:04,200 Speaker 2: you put on weight, you realize, all right, I can 1327 01:00:04,280 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 2: do this. 1328 01:00:05,240 --> 01:00:07,280 Speaker 3: So were you a tight end in high school? 1329 01:00:07,320 --> 01:00:09,320 Speaker 2: Did you touch the rock or have you always had 1330 01:00:09,360 --> 01:00:11,760 Speaker 2: your hand in the dirt. 1331 01:00:11,360 --> 01:00:16,200 Speaker 9: I played tight end my sophomore year on varsity and 1332 01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:17,840 Speaker 9: then I got to touch down. 1333 01:00:17,880 --> 01:00:20,000 Speaker 3: I got touch down there. Yeah, I played that for 1334 01:00:20,040 --> 01:00:20,439 Speaker 3: a year. 1335 01:00:20,840 --> 01:00:23,280 Speaker 9: But I was also like my high school didn't have 1336 01:00:23,520 --> 01:00:25,960 Speaker 9: an actual tight end in the system, just a package. 1337 01:00:26,160 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 9: So that it allowed me to play JV as well. 1338 01:00:28,600 --> 01:00:31,360 Speaker 9: So I played JV and varsity varsity tight end, JV 1339 01:00:32,000 --> 01:00:34,280 Speaker 9: offensive tackle. And then the next year they tried to 1340 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,760 Speaker 9: move me to defense. I really wasn't feeling defense. That 1341 01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 9: wouldn't be like I could, I could play it, but 1342 01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:43,040 Speaker 9: I was just it just wasn't me. And then the 1343 01:00:43,080 --> 01:00:44,760 Speaker 9: next year, my senior year, they said Okay, we're gonna 1344 01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,800 Speaker 9: make you a full time offensive tackle. You're gonna get schools, 1345 01:00:47,800 --> 01:00:52,560 Speaker 9: gonna get a scholarship, and just took off from there. 1346 01:00:52,680 --> 01:00:53,040 Speaker 3: There you go. 1347 01:00:53,360 --> 01:00:55,360 Speaker 5: You're from Indianapolis, Indiana. 1348 01:00:55,440 --> 01:00:59,440 Speaker 4: That's that's hoop time, man, that's the national pastime is 1349 01:00:59,800 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 4: right there. Every guy we know play for the Seahawks 1350 01:01:03,400 --> 01:01:06,520 Speaker 4: thinks they're they're a basketball player. You look like you 1351 01:01:06,520 --> 01:01:07,600 Speaker 4: were a basketball player. 1352 01:01:07,680 --> 01:01:10,320 Speaker 9: Yeah, yeah, yeah. My high school, My high school is 1353 01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:13,040 Speaker 9: known for basketball players. A couple of Tigus, Jeff tig, 1354 01:01:13,160 --> 01:01:18,720 Speaker 9: Marcus Tige, R. J Hunter, Uh, Courtney Lee. Uh. Those 1355 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:21,480 Speaker 9: are a few of They were actually all first round 1356 01:01:21,520 --> 01:01:23,080 Speaker 9: draft picks. It's kind of crazy, all from the same 1357 01:01:23,120 --> 01:01:26,160 Speaker 9: high school. Man, it's four we have. My high school 1358 01:01:26,200 --> 01:01:27,439 Speaker 9: has four first round draft picks. 1359 01:01:28,320 --> 01:01:29,320 Speaker 5: How good were you? 1360 01:01:29,480 --> 01:01:32,360 Speaker 3: I mean, I was like I was all right. 1361 01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:33,880 Speaker 9: I say I was more of a defensive player in 1362 01:01:33,880 --> 01:01:36,400 Speaker 9: the post player, not much of a score, but an 1363 01:01:36,480 --> 01:01:40,320 Speaker 9: extra effort, go get the rebound. Okay, just the big, 1364 01:01:40,680 --> 01:01:43,480 Speaker 9: best big on the team, go shut him down. Just 1365 01:01:43,520 --> 01:01:46,080 Speaker 9: doing the little stuff that you know people didn't want 1366 01:01:46,120 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 9: to do. 1367 01:01:47,240 --> 01:01:49,520 Speaker 2: So you from Indiana, the cold don't bother you then, 1368 01:01:49,600 --> 01:01:54,760 Speaker 2: huh nah, I'm from it, but yeah, I'm from it, 1369 01:01:54,800 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 2: but I don't I don't like it like that, Like 1370 01:01:56,640 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 2: it's cool, but it ain't that bad. 1371 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:00,480 Speaker 3: Northws Ohioway code name Ananapolis. 1372 01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:03,480 Speaker 9: Yeah, it's been a winner in northwest Ohio. Man, you 1373 01:02:03,520 --> 01:02:06,000 Speaker 9: probably you probably hate it. I ain't gonna lie it's terrible. 1374 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:09,520 Speaker 4: Where where is Findley? From where you grew up? 1375 01:02:10,000 --> 01:02:13,480 Speaker 9: Three hours? Three hours of Indianapolis? Three actually from my house. 1376 01:02:14,240 --> 01:02:17,080 Speaker 4: I had heard you know that, you know, particularly now 1377 01:02:17,120 --> 01:02:20,520 Speaker 4: with all the Sanil stuff and opportunities to play you know, 1378 01:02:20,720 --> 01:02:22,240 Speaker 4: fifth years and six years. 1379 01:02:22,720 --> 01:02:23,720 Speaker 5: Yeah, you could have. 1380 01:02:23,640 --> 01:02:26,880 Speaker 4: Certainly gone and moved from Division two and played for 1381 01:02:26,960 --> 01:02:29,800 Speaker 4: some Power five teams on my guests, But you talked 1382 01:02:29,840 --> 01:02:33,680 Speaker 4: about the loyalty at Findley. You mind just sharing you 1383 01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:35,400 Speaker 4: know why you stayed all four years? 1384 01:02:35,840 --> 01:02:36,040 Speaker 5: Yeah? 1385 01:02:36,080 --> 01:02:37,960 Speaker 9: I stayed all four years because I was a part 1386 01:02:38,000 --> 01:02:40,240 Speaker 9: of something like when I got to Findley, Finley was 1387 01:02:40,320 --> 01:02:42,600 Speaker 9: just now building up a program, like they had just 1388 01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:46,760 Speaker 9: came off their first playoff appearance in NCUA A scence 1389 01:02:46,760 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 9: they've been in Division two school and uh it was 1390 01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 9: a year, there was a year move from that coming 1391 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:53,280 Speaker 9: to next year, and I was being a part of 1392 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,320 Speaker 9: a program that was just starting to build stuff, and 1393 01:02:55,360 --> 01:02:57,600 Speaker 9: I wanted to stay there my entire time. 1394 01:02:57,760 --> 01:02:59,960 Speaker 3: Like I didn't want to I mean, I thought about 1395 01:03:00,120 --> 01:03:00,720 Speaker 3: leaving for sure. 1396 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,520 Speaker 9: I had a conversation with my coach actually we said 1397 01:03:02,520 --> 01:03:05,160 Speaker 9: in the office for like two hours, just talking about 1398 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:08,080 Speaker 9: like opportunities and stuff like, because obviously you got to 1399 01:03:08,080 --> 01:03:10,240 Speaker 9: give it some thought. And at the end of that meeting, 1400 01:03:10,440 --> 01:03:12,080 Speaker 9: I decide on my own like I ain't leaving. I 1401 01:03:12,080 --> 01:03:13,920 Speaker 9: want to stay here. I want to keep building up, 1402 01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:16,520 Speaker 9: keep showing the guys for the for the future that 1403 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:17,960 Speaker 9: you can make it out of here too. 1404 01:03:18,440 --> 01:03:19,240 Speaker 3: You don't need to leave. 1405 01:03:19,600 --> 01:03:22,600 Speaker 9: And hopefully I've said a great example for those guys, 1406 01:03:22,640 --> 01:03:23,080 Speaker 9: and they don't. 1407 01:03:23,120 --> 01:03:23,800 Speaker 3: They don't want to leave. 1408 01:03:23,800 --> 01:03:26,080 Speaker 9: They want to stay there and continue to keep playing 1409 01:03:26,120 --> 01:03:28,680 Speaker 9: with their brothers, because that's the most important thing about football. 1410 01:03:28,680 --> 01:03:31,200 Speaker 3: You can playing with your brothers. 1411 01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:34,280 Speaker 9: Without without them, there's no meed And like we compliment 1412 01:03:34,320 --> 01:03:37,040 Speaker 9: each other and I and I wouldn't trade any of 1413 01:03:37,040 --> 01:03:39,080 Speaker 9: the memories or the good times I've had with them 1414 01:03:39,200 --> 01:03:41,840 Speaker 9: for for nothing or no amount of money. 1415 01:03:42,040 --> 01:03:44,880 Speaker 2: You're a You're a dying breed, brother, dying breed. That's 1416 01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:47,120 Speaker 2: that's that's awesome in here, man, awesome here. 1417 01:03:48,600 --> 01:03:50,280 Speaker 3: But before before we get. 1418 01:03:50,160 --> 01:03:53,680 Speaker 2: You out of here, man, how do you like Seattle? 1419 01:03:53,800 --> 01:03:55,600 Speaker 2: You know, it's it's different, it's a different place. 1420 01:03:56,480 --> 01:03:57,480 Speaker 3: They love it or you hate it. 1421 01:03:57,480 --> 01:03:59,880 Speaker 9: Most most people love it. I think it's cool, Like 1422 01:04:00,000 --> 01:04:02,600 Speaker 9: I don't. People are I'm like, they don't even rain 1423 01:04:02,720 --> 01:04:04,920 Speaker 9: like that for real. It's like a drizzle. I mean 1424 01:04:04,960 --> 01:04:07,240 Speaker 9: it's it's like a drizzle right now. It ain't it 1425 01:04:07,240 --> 01:04:09,680 Speaker 9: ain't bad. But it's cool, man. I like it like 1426 01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,360 Speaker 9: a lot of food though, a lot of food. Like 1427 01:04:11,400 --> 01:04:12,920 Speaker 9: you can't you can turn. You can go anywhere and 1428 01:04:13,000 --> 01:04:16,960 Speaker 9: get some food. People are friendly here, like, people are 1429 01:04:17,400 --> 01:04:19,040 Speaker 9: easy to talk to. You can go up to anybody 1430 01:04:19,120 --> 01:04:23,400 Speaker 9: and talk to them. People have been welcoming a lot. 1431 01:04:23,400 --> 01:04:25,400 Speaker 9: A lot of the fans like I've met, even if 1432 01:04:25,400 --> 01:04:27,360 Speaker 9: I don't tell them about play football, like they they 1433 01:04:27,360 --> 01:04:28,200 Speaker 9: are very welcoming. 1434 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:29,880 Speaker 3: And Imber. 1435 01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:31,240 Speaker 9: I was in an ubercr I was in an uber 1436 01:04:31,320 --> 01:04:34,040 Speaker 9: driver car and I was just talking to him about football. 1437 01:04:34,080 --> 01:04:35,480 Speaker 3: I didn't eve tell him I was on the football team. 1438 01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:36,920 Speaker 3: We were just sitting there talking like. 1439 01:04:36,960 --> 01:04:40,080 Speaker 9: Everybody's pretty much, you know, real cool for the most part. 1440 01:04:40,360 --> 01:04:44,040 Speaker 9: Tweret here, yeah, yeah, yeah, twelves are nuts, man, But 1441 01:04:44,200 --> 01:04:46,160 Speaker 9: it's like it's like a good nuts though. It's like 1442 01:04:46,480 --> 01:04:48,760 Speaker 9: it's like good that it comes from a good heart, 1443 01:04:48,800 --> 01:04:52,800 Speaker 9: like they want us to succeed just I mean, just like. 1444 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,480 Speaker 3: You want anybody. You are fani so you want them 1445 01:04:54,480 --> 01:04:55,840 Speaker 3: to win. You want you want to see the. 1446 01:04:55,760 --> 01:04:58,280 Speaker 9: Best product out there and then put on for your hometown, 1447 01:04:58,400 --> 01:05:00,440 Speaker 9: like you want what you want to see, just like 1448 01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:01,920 Speaker 9: how was I was a fan for the Coats when 1449 01:05:01,920 --> 01:05:02,360 Speaker 9: I was a kid. 1450 01:05:02,400 --> 01:05:05,240 Speaker 3: I wanted to see the Coats win every year. 1451 01:05:05,680 --> 01:05:07,320 Speaker 9: And I can see how they I can see how 1452 01:05:07,400 --> 01:05:09,200 Speaker 9: every fan in the league wants to see that. 1453 01:05:09,480 --> 01:05:11,960 Speaker 4: Well, you don't have to practice silent count this week 1454 01:05:11,960 --> 01:05:14,120 Speaker 4: because they do know when to be quiet and they 1455 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:15,040 Speaker 4: know when to y else. 1456 01:05:15,160 --> 01:05:16,919 Speaker 5: Yeah, you guys would be good. 1457 01:05:17,040 --> 01:05:19,600 Speaker 2: All right, we'll get you out of here. But people 1458 01:05:19,720 --> 01:05:21,720 Speaker 2: are gonna assume you play football. Mike, just gonna let 1459 01:05:21,760 --> 01:05:22,440 Speaker 2: you know that right now. 1460 01:05:22,720 --> 01:05:25,640 Speaker 9: At somebody asked me, did you do you play basketball? 1461 01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:28,560 Speaker 9: I I was fenda tell them on Greg Golden for 1462 01:05:28,600 --> 01:05:29,000 Speaker 9: a second. 1463 01:05:30,640 --> 01:05:32,080 Speaker 2: All right, you guys giving up one more time for 1464 01:05:32,200 --> 01:05:33,080 Speaker 2: Michael jarell Man. 1465 01:05:33,080 --> 01:05:35,600 Speaker 3: We appreciate you taking time. We'll be coming back. Paul 1466 01:05:35,640 --> 01:05:37,520 Speaker 3: Moore and I will talk that talk That is next 1467 01:05:37,600 --> 01:05:38,440 Speaker 3: here on Hawk'slder. 1468 01:05:41,440 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 6: It's time to talk that talk with Michael Bumpus and 1469 01:05:44,280 --> 01:05:45,800 Speaker 6: Paul Moyer on Hawks Live. 1470 01:05:49,760 --> 01:05:52,840 Speaker 2: This is Hawk's Live, but Michael pampas with Paul Morier. 1471 01:05:52,920 --> 01:05:55,280 Speaker 3: We were just joined by Michael Jarell Man. The Hawks 1472 01:05:55,280 --> 01:05:58,520 Speaker 3: do a good job getting just good. 1473 01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:00,960 Speaker 2: Human beings in this organize. As you can tell. That's 1474 01:06:01,000 --> 01:06:04,600 Speaker 2: exactly who Michael is. All right, man, So let's let's 1475 01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:05,280 Speaker 2: talk that talk. 1476 01:06:05,320 --> 01:06:05,480 Speaker 6: Man. 1477 01:06:05,520 --> 01:06:09,600 Speaker 2: This is when when we put a topic out there 1478 01:06:09,680 --> 01:06:12,000 Speaker 2: and Moyer says if it's right or wrong, and I 1479 01:06:12,080 --> 01:06:14,720 Speaker 2: save his right or wrong and either we agree or 1480 01:06:14,760 --> 01:06:15,680 Speaker 2: we disagree. 1481 01:06:16,440 --> 01:06:19,120 Speaker 5: Then he sends me flowers because he was mean to me. 1482 01:06:20,720 --> 01:06:21,800 Speaker 4: I apologize now. 1483 01:06:21,800 --> 01:06:24,160 Speaker 2: And then he invites me to one of his country 1484 01:06:24,160 --> 01:06:24,920 Speaker 2: club membership. 1485 01:06:25,000 --> 01:06:26,040 Speaker 3: The show is mean to me? 1486 01:06:26,520 --> 01:06:27,280 Speaker 5: And do you show? 1487 01:06:27,920 --> 01:06:28,520 Speaker 3: Do I show? 1488 01:06:28,920 --> 01:06:31,720 Speaker 4: Do you show up when I invite you to. 1489 01:06:31,720 --> 01:06:34,080 Speaker 3: The country club? Now you have? You haven't invited me 1490 01:06:34,120 --> 01:06:34,520 Speaker 3: to one of. 1491 01:06:34,440 --> 01:06:38,960 Speaker 5: Those new Castle country club. 1492 01:06:40,440 --> 01:06:40,720 Speaker 9: Club? 1493 01:06:41,080 --> 01:06:42,840 Speaker 3: Are you ready? Yeah? You want me to go? 1494 01:06:42,920 --> 01:06:43,600 Speaker 4: No, I'll go first? 1495 01:06:43,600 --> 01:06:44,360 Speaker 3: All right? What you got? 1496 01:06:45,040 --> 01:06:46,000 Speaker 5: Look the Hawks? 1497 01:06:47,200 --> 01:06:49,640 Speaker 4: I was gonna ask you kind of a tease to this, 1498 01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,720 Speaker 4: but it won't work. Hawks have made back to back 1499 01:06:53,800 --> 01:06:58,600 Speaker 4: trades two weeks in a row, trade deadlines still coming up. 1500 01:06:58,880 --> 01:07:01,560 Speaker 4: I think the Seahawks thinks they have a good team. 1501 01:07:01,840 --> 01:07:05,680 Speaker 4: So my question the Seahawks are not done making trades 1502 01:07:05,720 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 4: before the deadline. 1503 01:07:06,920 --> 01:07:10,600 Speaker 2: Oh all right, so you gotta talk about the parts 1504 01:07:10,720 --> 01:07:13,760 Speaker 2: of the team that needed to be addressed. Defensive line 1505 01:07:13,760 --> 01:07:17,600 Speaker 2: for sure, they did that. Linebackers, for sure, they did that. 1506 01:07:18,120 --> 01:07:21,120 Speaker 2: The next you would think is the offensive line. But 1507 01:07:21,640 --> 01:07:24,200 Speaker 2: you got Abe Lucas who's been cleared to practice for 1508 01:07:24,280 --> 01:07:27,800 Speaker 2: twenty one days. George Fan seems like he is coming back. 1509 01:07:28,200 --> 01:07:31,280 Speaker 2: Are they going to address that guard spot? I think 1510 01:07:31,600 --> 01:07:33,920 Speaker 2: they're looking at the offensive line and saying we're gonna 1511 01:07:33,920 --> 01:07:36,640 Speaker 2: get better from within. So they're not gonna make a 1512 01:07:36,720 --> 01:07:40,720 Speaker 2: move on the offensive line. But I think somewhere they're 1513 01:07:40,720 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 2: gonna throw another guy in there. I think they've done 1514 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,400 Speaker 2: a great job getting ahead of things. You got Roy 1515 01:07:44,520 --> 01:07:45,680 Speaker 2: Robinson who's here. 1516 01:07:47,120 --> 01:07:47,840 Speaker 3: You got. 1517 01:07:49,480 --> 01:07:51,720 Speaker 2: Ernest who they just picked up. But something tells me 1518 01:07:51,720 --> 01:07:54,080 Speaker 2: they're gonna grab another player. I just don't know who 1519 01:07:54,120 --> 01:07:55,720 Speaker 2: it's gonna be. But I don't think it's gonna be 1520 01:07:55,720 --> 01:07:57,640 Speaker 2: with the offensive line. I think they got some young 1521 01:07:57,680 --> 01:08:00,000 Speaker 2: talent they're gonna let go so yeah, I think they grabs. 1522 01:08:00,720 --> 01:08:02,240 Speaker 2: I just don't know where it's gonna come from. It's 1523 01:08:02,280 --> 01:08:04,280 Speaker 2: gonna be like a special teams type of place. 1524 01:08:04,360 --> 01:08:04,960 Speaker 4: That's a trade. 1525 01:08:04,960 --> 01:08:05,120 Speaker 3: Now. 1526 01:08:05,240 --> 01:08:08,400 Speaker 5: They're different than than picking someone up off the street. 1527 01:08:08,960 --> 01:08:15,760 Speaker 4: I think they're done trading if everything stays as is 1528 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 4: as far as in other words, look if DK metcalf 1529 01:08:19,040 --> 01:08:22,760 Speaker 4: all of a Sudden's injury was longer, maybe they go 1530 01:08:22,800 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 4: get a wide receiver. I think offensive line, you've got 1531 01:08:28,640 --> 01:08:32,640 Speaker 4: Lucas coming back. They've got some options there. I do 1532 01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,320 Speaker 4: believe the guards have improved. I thought Bradford that was 1533 01:08:35,360 --> 01:08:38,600 Speaker 4: his best game. He also looked at Christian Haynes. He 1534 01:08:38,680 --> 01:08:41,040 Speaker 4: had that big block there on that touchdown run. He's 1535 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:44,000 Speaker 4: starting to get like fourteen to fifteen snaps, you know, 1536 01:08:44,120 --> 01:08:46,080 Speaker 4: keep improving because his big thing is just you know, 1537 01:08:46,120 --> 01:08:49,280 Speaker 4: improve on the strength, right, he got to get strong 1538 01:08:49,479 --> 01:08:53,600 Speaker 4: inside there, good good pass protector. So I think without injuries, 1539 01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,400 Speaker 4: I think we stay as there's really not a lot 1540 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,720 Speaker 4: of cap space left. We didn't have a lot in 1541 01:08:59,760 --> 01:09:02,800 Speaker 4: this last one, but we traded with a guy who's 1542 01:09:02,800 --> 01:09:04,720 Speaker 4: on a rookie con track. I believe he's still in 1543 01:09:04,720 --> 01:09:07,479 Speaker 4: a rookie contract and gave up Baker, who was you know, 1544 01:09:07,920 --> 01:09:10,479 Speaker 4: a few million bucks more than that, so maybe there's 1545 01:09:10,479 --> 01:09:13,599 Speaker 4: a little bit left. So I'm gonna say no unless 1546 01:09:13,640 --> 01:09:14,360 Speaker 4: there's an injury. 1547 01:09:14,439 --> 01:09:16,559 Speaker 3: Okay, all right? 1548 01:09:16,680 --> 01:09:21,719 Speaker 2: Next up, the Seahawks will be six and three heading 1549 01:09:21,880 --> 01:09:23,040 Speaker 2: into the bye week. 1550 01:09:23,720 --> 01:09:25,080 Speaker 5: You got who do we play after this? 1551 01:09:25,920 --> 01:09:27,880 Speaker 4: I only look one week at a time, my friend, 1552 01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:30,400 Speaker 4: I'm with you. I know we got the Rams coming up. No, 1553 01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:35,680 Speaker 4: we got the Rams coming up after Buffalo. Who's out there? 1554 01:09:35,680 --> 01:09:38,720 Speaker 4: Somebody text me this? You should know. 1555 01:09:38,840 --> 01:09:40,479 Speaker 5: I literally don't know. 1556 01:09:40,680 --> 01:09:41,800 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm with you here. 1557 01:09:42,680 --> 01:09:45,320 Speaker 3: You gotta know that's that's not working. 1558 01:09:45,360 --> 01:09:47,240 Speaker 4: I could go to my calendar. That's gonna be quicker. 1559 01:09:47,320 --> 01:09:47,840 Speaker 3: I got you. 1560 01:09:48,600 --> 01:09:50,640 Speaker 4: I need to know who we play after Buffalo. 1561 01:09:52,840 --> 01:09:55,280 Speaker 5: We do play the Rams, right, the Rams? 1562 01:09:55,360 --> 01:09:55,559 Speaker 4: Yeah? 1563 01:09:55,560 --> 01:09:56,120 Speaker 5: The Rams? 1564 01:09:56,200 --> 01:09:59,560 Speaker 3: Okay, Rams is beat Minnesota? 1565 01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,080 Speaker 5: Oh, I know? 1566 01:10:01,320 --> 01:10:03,639 Speaker 4: Is it after Rams? And I don't think it really matters. 1567 01:10:04,000 --> 01:10:05,080 Speaker 4: The Rams play is tough. 1568 01:10:05,200 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 2: Here. 1569 01:10:05,520 --> 01:10:08,800 Speaker 4: We played at home out there home. We got back 1570 01:10:08,840 --> 01:10:10,960 Speaker 4: to back home games here. Look, we got Here's why 1571 01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:13,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna say, yes, we have to. 1572 01:10:14,160 --> 01:10:14,479 Speaker 5: Here's what. 1573 01:10:14,880 --> 01:10:17,840 Speaker 4: We don't have that many home games loft after these 1574 01:10:17,880 --> 01:10:20,080 Speaker 4: next two. I mean we got to you know, towards 1575 01:10:20,080 --> 01:10:21,400 Speaker 4: the end of the season. I think we're three out 1576 01:10:21,400 --> 01:10:23,640 Speaker 4: of four on the road, you know, I think I 1577 01:10:23,640 --> 01:10:26,519 Speaker 4: think it's imperative that we're six and three going into 1578 01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:29,680 Speaker 4: the Bible. So I'm gonna say yes, it's actually not imperative. 1579 01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,600 Speaker 4: We're five and four. We're fine because the division is 1580 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:35,080 Speaker 4: not gonna run away from us right now. But I'm 1581 01:10:35,080 --> 01:10:38,200 Speaker 4: gonna say yes, Okay, even though those are two tough games. 1582 01:10:38,479 --> 01:10:39,840 Speaker 3: I'm gonna say yes as well. 1583 01:10:40,120 --> 01:10:43,240 Speaker 2: And I'm gonna say yes because the Niners have the 1584 01:10:43,280 --> 01:10:47,599 Speaker 2: Cowboys and the Buccaneers coming up. That Niners Cowboys game 1585 01:10:47,680 --> 01:10:50,160 Speaker 2: is going to be so intriguing to me, Hey, what 1586 01:10:50,200 --> 01:10:52,960 Speaker 2: are the Niners gonna do? Are they really falling off? 1587 01:10:53,240 --> 01:10:55,720 Speaker 2: Are the Cowboys going to try to figure something out? 1588 01:10:55,920 --> 01:10:58,400 Speaker 2: So we don't have to hear excuses from Jerry Jones 1589 01:10:58,600 --> 01:11:00,200 Speaker 2: for another week or so? 1590 01:11:00,280 --> 01:11:03,240 Speaker 3: That game they need to make that America's Game of 1591 01:11:03,280 --> 01:11:05,439 Speaker 3: the Week because there's so much kind of. 1592 01:11:05,400 --> 01:11:09,439 Speaker 2: We're gonna find out about those two teams. I'm gonna 1593 01:11:09,439 --> 01:11:12,000 Speaker 2: say yes, but this week our game is Game of 1594 01:11:12,000 --> 01:11:13,880 Speaker 2: the Week, America's Game of the Week. But I'm gonna 1595 01:11:13,880 --> 01:11:16,200 Speaker 2: say yeah, six and three for sure, I'm with it. 1596 01:11:16,400 --> 01:11:17,840 Speaker 4: This is a huge game, and you know what, for 1597 01:11:17,920 --> 01:11:21,320 Speaker 4: us to win, For us to win, we got to 1598 01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,559 Speaker 4: have some big, huge performances. Josh Allen's playing really well. 1599 01:11:24,600 --> 01:11:28,120 Speaker 4: Twelve touchdowns, no interceptions, only been sacked nine times or 1600 01:11:28,160 --> 01:11:34,320 Speaker 4: five and two. So Geno Smith, though, will outplay Josh 1601 01:11:34,400 --> 01:11:35,080 Speaker 4: Allen this week. 1602 01:11:36,160 --> 01:11:41,280 Speaker 2: Man, So Geno Smith like a peak Gino Smith game 1603 01:11:41,320 --> 01:11:45,200 Speaker 2: to me. Two touchdowns, two hundred and fifty yards because 1604 01:11:45,280 --> 01:11:47,400 Speaker 2: if you do that and he's not throwing the ball 1605 01:11:47,439 --> 01:11:50,320 Speaker 2: fifty times, which I don't like, that means that the 1606 01:11:50,400 --> 01:11:52,599 Speaker 2: run game is going, and that means he's taking care 1607 01:11:52,600 --> 01:11:55,320 Speaker 2: of the football. I think this is the game that 1608 01:11:55,400 --> 01:11:58,880 Speaker 2: Josh Allen finally throws an interception and turns the ball over. 1609 01:11:59,280 --> 01:12:02,639 Speaker 2: So as ex TLOs even dynamic as Josh Allen is, 1610 01:12:03,200 --> 01:12:05,800 Speaker 2: I'm gonna go with Gino and say he outplays them 1611 01:12:05,840 --> 01:12:09,640 Speaker 2: in his way, a Geno type of game, avoiding the 1612 01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:12,840 Speaker 2: sex getting the full ball out on time. Two point 1613 01:12:12,880 --> 01:12:16,519 Speaker 2: fifty two touchdowns, Josh Allen's gonna throw a pick. 1614 01:12:16,560 --> 01:12:18,640 Speaker 3: He's only been sacked like eight nine times something like that. 1615 01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:22,000 Speaker 4: It's random, it's you know, it's really a low number. 1616 01:12:22,439 --> 01:12:26,280 Speaker 4: But Cousins last week same thing. He hadn't been sacked 1617 01:12:26,320 --> 01:12:28,840 Speaker 4: very much and we got three on him, three interceptions, 1618 01:12:28,840 --> 01:12:32,120 Speaker 4: and so it's there. I don't know if it needs 1619 01:12:32,160 --> 01:12:33,160 Speaker 4: to be statistically. 1620 01:12:33,280 --> 01:12:35,479 Speaker 5: I think you'll you'll know it when. 1621 01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,120 Speaker 4: You see it, right right, And so to me, it's 1622 01:12:38,160 --> 01:12:40,360 Speaker 4: one of those games that you said that he makes 1623 01:12:40,439 --> 01:12:43,639 Speaker 4: the the big time throw at the critical moment talking 1624 01:12:43,640 --> 01:12:46,320 Speaker 4: about Geno that he does not turn the ball over 1625 01:12:46,640 --> 01:12:49,080 Speaker 4: unless it's you know, a hail Mary, a halftime or something, 1626 01:12:49,120 --> 01:12:54,400 Speaker 4: but I mean in the game moment, no interceptions, big throw, 1627 01:12:54,400 --> 01:12:56,240 Speaker 4: a third down and eight, and he's got to put 1628 01:12:56,240 --> 01:12:57,080 Speaker 4: it in that window. 1629 01:12:58,080 --> 01:12:59,760 Speaker 5: Those things he avoids. 1630 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,240 Speaker 4: That sack, and then I think our look, I think 1631 01:13:03,400 --> 01:13:06,000 Speaker 4: if we're if we're behind, it's gonna be hard to 1632 01:13:06,040 --> 01:13:07,640 Speaker 4: force Josh into problems. 1633 01:13:08,600 --> 01:13:09,800 Speaker 5: We've got to get the lead. 1634 01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:12,000 Speaker 4: I think early and forced Josh to have to say, Okay, 1635 01:13:12,040 --> 01:13:14,200 Speaker 4: I gotta win this game on my own. And I 1636 01:13:14,240 --> 01:13:16,760 Speaker 4: think we really will see it, so we'll know when 1637 01:13:16,800 --> 01:13:18,760 Speaker 4: we see it, and I think he's going to it's 1638 01:13:18,760 --> 01:13:21,439 Speaker 4: a home game. I think, I don't think. I don't 1639 01:13:21,479 --> 01:13:23,840 Speaker 4: think Geno's had a bad game this year. The forty 1640 01:13:23,880 --> 01:13:25,600 Speaker 4: nine ers have won where he didn't play well, he 1641 01:13:25,840 --> 01:13:27,800 Speaker 4: had that one interception that which means about the only 1642 01:13:27,880 --> 01:13:30,960 Speaker 4: interception that was his fault this year the first drive. 1643 01:13:31,600 --> 01:13:33,040 Speaker 4: So we can't have any of those. He's got to 1644 01:13:33,040 --> 01:13:35,000 Speaker 4: play Darna Air a perfect game for this to happen. 1645 01:13:35,120 --> 01:13:37,960 Speaker 2: All right, last one I got for you, Okay, Kobe 1646 01:13:38,040 --> 01:13:41,360 Speaker 2: Bryant has earned a role in this team even when 1647 01:13:41,479 --> 01:13:43,400 Speaker 2: Rayshawn Jenkins return. 1648 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:49,720 Speaker 4: WOU you usually don't give up starting spots unless the 1649 01:13:49,800 --> 01:13:53,120 Speaker 4: guy's clearly earned that spot. 1650 01:13:53,240 --> 01:13:57,280 Speaker 5: So what do I mean by that? You know, Rayshawan Jenkins. 1651 01:13:57,760 --> 01:13:59,080 Speaker 4: I don't want to say he had bust, but he 1652 01:13:59,120 --> 01:14:02,520 Speaker 4: had some bad angle, some giving up some big plays. 1653 01:14:02,920 --> 01:14:05,720 Speaker 4: I like Rayshawn Jenkins a lot. I think, no matter what, 1654 01:14:05,880 --> 01:14:08,080 Speaker 4: Kobe's gonna find a place on that field, whether that's 1655 01:14:08,120 --> 01:14:10,599 Speaker 4: the third safety. At times, he's shown in the run 1656 01:14:10,680 --> 01:14:13,479 Speaker 4: game that he's an impact as well. He's downhill when 1657 01:14:13,479 --> 01:14:15,360 Speaker 4: he reads things, he's fast with it. Matter of fact, 1658 01:14:15,360 --> 01:14:17,000 Speaker 4: the only play that I thought was kind of a 1659 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,080 Speaker 4: negative was a positive, and that positive was he came 1660 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:21,559 Speaker 4: down just laid the guy. 1661 01:14:21,640 --> 01:14:23,400 Speaker 5: I mean he hit him really hard to run it back. 1662 01:14:23,439 --> 01:14:25,800 Speaker 4: I think it was Robinson maybe the other running back, 1663 01:14:25,960 --> 01:14:27,840 Speaker 4: but he bounced just enough and the guy he ended 1664 01:14:27,920 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 4: up having like a thirty yard rock. That was about 1665 01:14:31,120 --> 01:14:33,720 Speaker 4: the only negative play I saw from him. So yeah, 1666 01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,120 Speaker 4: I think Kobe, if he continues this, has earned the 1667 01:14:37,200 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 4: right to be on that field. 1668 01:14:38,800 --> 01:14:39,920 Speaker 3: I'm with you one hundred percent. 1669 01:14:40,680 --> 01:14:44,519 Speaker 2: Great rookie year for Kobe gets hurt towards the end 1670 01:14:44,520 --> 01:14:45,800 Speaker 2: of the year. I believe it was a foot or 1671 01:14:45,840 --> 01:14:50,879 Speaker 2: something like that. You draft Witherspoon and that's the NFL shuffle. 1672 01:14:51,040 --> 01:14:52,560 Speaker 3: Guys kind of get moved around. 1673 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,280 Speaker 2: A little bit and if they haven't seen you do 1674 01:14:54,400 --> 01:14:57,120 Speaker 2: much lately, not like they forget about you, but they 1675 01:14:57,120 --> 01:15:00,640 Speaker 2: give other guys opportunities. He took advantage of it opportunity. 1676 01:15:00,680 --> 01:15:02,360 Speaker 2: I was so happy to see Kobe. 1677 01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 3: Bryante do a thing man. 1678 01:15:04,160 --> 01:15:07,080 Speaker 2: So uh yeah, I'm with you now, Kobe Bryant is 1679 01:15:07,080 --> 01:15:09,800 Speaker 2: going to be on that field more often, even when 1680 01:15:09,920 --> 01:15:10,799 Speaker 2: ray Sean returned. 1681 01:15:11,120 --> 01:15:13,439 Speaker 3: All right, that was talk. That talk. 1682 01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:15,400 Speaker 2: When we come back, we will give you our final 1683 01:15:15,479 --> 01:15:17,080 Speaker 2: thoughts and keys of victory. 1684 01:15:17,120 --> 01:15:18,400 Speaker 3: That is next here on Hawk's Lot. 1685 01:15:21,880 --> 01:15:25,759 Speaker 1: Hawks Live presented by the Dining District of the Bellevue 1686 01:15:25,800 --> 01:15:28,960 Speaker 1: Collection at Bellevue Squares Center Court live on air on 1687 01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:30,600 Speaker 1: Seattle Sports. 1688 01:15:32,200 --> 01:15:35,080 Speaker 3: This is Hawks Live. The final segment. 1689 01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Our true soldiers are still here someone love and support. 1690 01:15:40,240 --> 01:15:43,200 Speaker 2: They're not just here for the free stuff. They're here 1691 01:15:43,200 --> 01:15:45,880 Speaker 2: for Paul Morier. No, that's why they are here. 1692 01:15:46,320 --> 01:15:50,000 Speaker 4: They think that you have one more raffle that's coming here. 1693 01:15:49,800 --> 01:15:51,679 Speaker 3: So I got a raffle. 1694 01:15:53,360 --> 01:15:55,879 Speaker 2: Whoever wins this one can listen to Bump and Stacy 1695 01:15:55,960 --> 01:15:56,720 Speaker 2: for free. 1696 01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:00,120 Speaker 3: Tomorrow ten to two. We got you. 1697 01:16:00,120 --> 01:16:01,240 Speaker 4: You can go get the you know what. 1698 01:16:01,560 --> 01:16:04,679 Speaker 2: Actually, everybody wins that one. I'll let you guys tomorrow 1699 01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:05,680 Speaker 2: ten o'clock. 1700 01:16:05,400 --> 01:16:06,040 Speaker 3: You can go. 1701 01:16:06,360 --> 01:16:09,840 Speaker 4: The Seahawks have Hawks Live and seven to ten U 1702 01:16:10,240 --> 01:16:12,439 Speaker 4: Seattle Sports has Hawks Live. 1703 01:16:12,520 --> 01:16:13,679 Speaker 5: You guys can listen to it again. 1704 01:16:13,720 --> 01:16:17,000 Speaker 4: And it's Saturday morning too, right, yep, every Saturday morning 1705 01:16:17,040 --> 01:16:19,080 Speaker 4: I forget that and people will start texting me. They 1706 01:16:19,120 --> 01:16:21,559 Speaker 4: hear it more on Saturday than tonight and Nelson they go, 1707 01:16:21,760 --> 01:16:23,000 Speaker 4: are you doing the show right now? 1708 01:16:23,040 --> 01:16:23,960 Speaker 5: And like, a what show are. 1709 01:16:23,920 --> 01:16:25,800 Speaker 4: You talking about? Saturday is my day off? 1710 01:16:25,920 --> 01:16:26,120 Speaker 6: No? 1711 01:16:26,760 --> 01:16:29,080 Speaker 5: And uh yeah, so you can listen to a bunch. 1712 01:16:29,200 --> 01:16:31,320 Speaker 2: I've been driving with my kids. They're like, Dad, that 1713 01:16:31,360 --> 01:16:34,400 Speaker 2: guy sounds like you. I go, really me, does he 1714 01:16:34,479 --> 01:16:36,960 Speaker 2: know you sound like you? 1715 01:16:37,160 --> 01:16:40,519 Speaker 3: Yeah? Fuddy, yeah, I know that guy. This sounds like 1716 01:16:40,600 --> 01:16:43,320 Speaker 3: you all right, man, it's this is gonna be a 1717 01:16:43,360 --> 01:16:45,360 Speaker 3: tough game. It's gonna be tough. 1718 01:16:45,640 --> 01:16:50,080 Speaker 2: The Bills have a culture that has stood at the 1719 01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:53,080 Speaker 2: test of what five maybe six seasons. And when you 1720 01:16:53,160 --> 01:16:57,320 Speaker 2: have a franchise quarterback like Josh Allen, you always have 1721 01:16:57,400 --> 01:17:00,080 Speaker 2: a chance. And now you've given him a weapon and 1722 01:17:00,200 --> 01:17:02,679 Speaker 2: Amari Cooper, you know you have a chance. 1723 01:17:02,760 --> 01:17:04,439 Speaker 3: But I like the hawks chances. 1724 01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:06,879 Speaker 2: I like what they've done when it comes to improving 1725 01:17:06,920 --> 01:17:09,840 Speaker 2: their defense. They're getting healthy at the right time, and 1726 01:17:09,880 --> 01:17:12,639 Speaker 2: the offense has been pretty consistent other than maybe one 1727 01:17:12,760 --> 01:17:13,479 Speaker 2: game this year. 1728 01:17:13,800 --> 01:17:15,639 Speaker 3: So how do they get it done. 1729 01:17:15,840 --> 01:17:19,760 Speaker 4: Gonna be tough defensively, they're just really well coached. I 1730 01:17:19,920 --> 01:17:22,799 Speaker 4: like some of their players. Now they did say Bernard's 1731 01:17:23,040 --> 01:17:25,360 Speaker 4: or one of their linebacks is not gonna play. Yeah, 1732 01:17:25,640 --> 01:17:26,479 Speaker 4: that's a big deal. 1733 01:17:26,600 --> 01:17:29,000 Speaker 5: He is a really good football player. 1734 01:17:29,760 --> 01:17:32,080 Speaker 4: He takes care of the middle of that field in 1735 01:17:32,120 --> 01:17:36,320 Speaker 4: the passing game. He's just he's just one of those guys. 1736 01:17:36,320 --> 01:17:40,120 Speaker 4: He's so fun to watch. So I'm happy I'm not 1737 01:17:40,160 --> 01:17:42,840 Speaker 4: gonna have fun watching him hopefully this week because he 1738 01:17:43,200 --> 01:17:44,120 Speaker 4: say he's got an ankle. 1739 01:17:44,560 --> 01:17:45,040 Speaker 5: It's tough. 1740 01:17:45,040 --> 01:17:49,960 Speaker 4: They do some timely blitzes right where it's just you go, 1741 01:17:50,040 --> 01:17:52,799 Speaker 4: oh okay, really good. We'll do like a delay blitz, 1742 01:17:52,960 --> 01:17:56,360 Speaker 4: you know, just let you slide away at the right time. 1743 01:17:56,479 --> 01:17:59,800 Speaker 4: So or a back is looking as soon as he 1744 01:18:00,000 --> 01:18:02,840 Speaker 4: who's you know, boom and goes to the wide route 1745 01:18:02,840 --> 01:18:06,639 Speaker 4: that they'll send somebody. It's we're gonna have to work 1746 01:18:06,680 --> 01:18:09,920 Speaker 4: for everything on this thing. So but we're capable. I 1747 01:18:09,960 --> 01:18:12,040 Speaker 4: mean again, I like our talent. I think we're getting 1748 01:18:12,040 --> 01:18:14,519 Speaker 4: better again at the offensive line. Tough game, I mean 1749 01:18:14,600 --> 01:18:18,479 Speaker 4: I pretty simple, man, don't give a big plays. Win 1750 01:18:18,520 --> 01:18:21,920 Speaker 4: the turnover battle. You know, there's five plays each game 1751 01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:25,719 Speaker 4: that are critical moments. You gotta win three of those five. 1752 01:18:26,680 --> 01:18:29,040 Speaker 4: It's a really good match I think between Geno Smith 1753 01:18:29,120 --> 01:18:33,040 Speaker 4: Josh Allen. Great opportunity because that man I'm being so 1754 01:18:33,080 --> 01:18:35,559 Speaker 4: it's got taken a little heat on X, you know, 1755 01:18:36,240 --> 01:18:39,000 Speaker 4: defending Gino and people say, well, Josh Allen, I go, 1756 01:18:39,080 --> 01:18:41,360 Speaker 4: Josh Allen's a great player. Yeah, I'm not saying he's 1757 01:18:41,400 --> 01:18:44,840 Speaker 4: not Lamar Jackson. Great players to be a really good 1758 01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,559 Speaker 4: one for Gino to shine. 1759 01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:48,679 Speaker 2: You know what I how I described Gino was that 1760 01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:50,640 Speaker 2: he is good. 1761 01:18:50,560 --> 01:18:51,519 Speaker 3: For this team. 1762 01:18:51,560 --> 01:18:55,519 Speaker 2: This situation it's it works for him, just like Rock 1763 01:18:55,600 --> 01:18:58,200 Speaker 2: Party is good for his Lamar is good for theirs. 1764 01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,680 Speaker 2: There are some guys who are physically more talented, but 1765 01:19:01,040 --> 01:19:04,040 Speaker 2: I think the more the NFL changes, the more we're 1766 01:19:04,080 --> 01:19:05,120 Speaker 2: seeing just be good. 1767 01:19:04,960 --> 01:19:05,799 Speaker 3: For your situation. 1768 01:19:06,200 --> 01:19:08,719 Speaker 2: Jared Goff is a top three quarterback in the league 1769 01:19:08,800 --> 01:19:11,400 Speaker 2: right now, and when you look at his attributes, what 1770 01:19:11,439 --> 01:19:13,800 Speaker 2: he brings to the table, and you line him up 1771 01:19:13,800 --> 01:19:14,919 Speaker 2: against some of the best. 1772 01:19:14,920 --> 01:19:16,800 Speaker 3: You're not gonna pick him first. You're not gonna pick 1773 01:19:16,840 --> 01:19:19,519 Speaker 3: him second, maybe not even top five. But for what 1774 01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,200 Speaker 3: the Lions are asking him to do, he's good for that. 1775 01:19:22,200 --> 01:19:24,760 Speaker 2: That's the way I look at Gino, and Gino's getting better, 1776 01:19:24,760 --> 01:19:26,679 Speaker 2: and he's thirty four years old and he's getting better. 1777 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:29,720 Speaker 2: The question this weekend for me, Paul, who's gonna step 1778 01:19:29,800 --> 01:19:30,880 Speaker 2: up if DK doesn't play? 1779 01:19:31,120 --> 01:19:33,559 Speaker 3: What does this offense look like if DK doesn't play? 1780 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,519 Speaker 2: Because he has the most twenty yard receptions in the 1781 01:19:37,560 --> 01:19:39,880 Speaker 2: game right now, He's got eleven, the most twenty yard 1782 01:19:39,880 --> 01:19:43,280 Speaker 2: receptions and that threat does something to a defense. So 1783 01:19:43,520 --> 01:19:47,200 Speaker 2: I'm looking at jsm Lockett, maybe Laviska Bobo and saying 1784 01:19:47,320 --> 01:19:50,320 Speaker 2: who's gonna step up? And how does the absence, the 1785 01:19:50,360 --> 01:19:51,719 Speaker 2: potential absence of. 1786 01:19:51,800 --> 01:19:54,519 Speaker 3: DK affect the way that Greb calls a ball game. 1787 01:19:54,880 --> 01:19:58,759 Speaker 4: I've seen Gino do this before and he just says, 1788 01:19:59,520 --> 01:20:00,000 Speaker 4: what do you get? 1789 01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:02,880 Speaker 5: I think Gena is one of the smarter quarterbacks in 1790 01:20:02,920 --> 01:20:03,280 Speaker 5: the league. 1791 01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:09,719 Speaker 4: I think the way that he analyzes the defense quickly, Gino, 1792 01:20:09,960 --> 01:20:12,080 Speaker 4: it can't. I'm just I would love for people to 1793 01:20:12,200 --> 01:20:14,240 Speaker 4: just go and watch film and let me coach this 1794 01:20:14,280 --> 01:20:17,920 Speaker 4: thing out. Watch yes, so I can really show what 1795 01:20:18,160 --> 01:20:21,599 Speaker 4: he's looking at and how he moves his feet and 1796 01:20:21,840 --> 01:20:25,600 Speaker 4: the amount of pressure that comes that he still avoids 1797 01:20:26,000 --> 01:20:29,360 Speaker 4: and gets the ball out. He will take it as. 1798 01:20:29,280 --> 01:20:30,439 Speaker 5: Long as he needs to. 1799 01:20:30,880 --> 01:20:32,719 Speaker 4: So, in other words, if you give me five seconds, 1800 01:20:33,080 --> 01:20:36,040 Speaker 4: I'm gonna let the place extend. If I got to 1801 01:20:36,040 --> 01:20:37,639 Speaker 4: get rid of this thing in one point eight second, 1802 01:20:37,760 --> 01:20:39,639 Speaker 4: I know where to go with it. You know. Again, 1803 01:20:39,720 --> 01:20:41,920 Speaker 4: the challenge the times he gets in trouble and it's 1804 01:20:41,960 --> 01:20:45,639 Speaker 4: not necessarily his fault is you've taken away everything quick 1805 01:20:46,000 --> 01:20:49,519 Speaker 4: and there's got pressure and sometimes he's not sure where 1806 01:20:49,560 --> 01:20:49,920 Speaker 4: to go with that. 1807 01:20:50,000 --> 01:20:51,200 Speaker 5: But not many quarterbacks do. 1808 01:20:51,840 --> 01:20:56,920 Speaker 4: So, Yeah, this is I think if you don't have DK, 1809 01:20:57,760 --> 01:21:03,200 Speaker 4: I think this is a beautiful grub. Gino game plan 1810 01:21:03,320 --> 01:21:07,400 Speaker 4: to gather and you go where the ball goes nobody knows. Yeah, 1811 01:21:07,439 --> 01:21:09,280 Speaker 4: and by the way, give me a heavy dose of running, 1812 01:21:09,560 --> 01:21:14,000 Speaker 4: heavy dose because he Canine is a weapon. Canine is 1813 01:21:14,080 --> 01:21:16,160 Speaker 4: a big play guy. They talk about big plays twenty 1814 01:21:16,240 --> 01:21:19,759 Speaker 4: yards or more in the past game. Canine has that ability. 1815 01:21:19,800 --> 01:21:21,400 Speaker 4: If we can get to him into the second left. 1816 01:21:21,920 --> 01:21:24,280 Speaker 4: So I think that'll be good. I'm excited to see 1817 01:21:24,320 --> 01:21:24,600 Speaker 4: what we do. 1818 01:21:24,760 --> 01:21:27,439 Speaker 2: Canine hasn't had a one hundred yard games this week 1819 01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:32,280 Speaker 2: one against Denver and uh, I think he's uh, he's overdue. 1820 01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:33,720 Speaker 3: You got to get this man the ball. 1821 01:21:33,760 --> 01:21:36,320 Speaker 2: And I think with the offensive line taking steps in 1822 01:21:36,360 --> 01:21:40,160 Speaker 2: the red direction, we'll see if the start this week, 1823 01:21:40,280 --> 01:21:43,080 Speaker 2: how how much Haines is involved in the game plan. 1824 01:21:43,880 --> 01:21:46,400 Speaker 3: They might They might be due, Moyer, they might be 1825 01:21:46,479 --> 01:21:48,599 Speaker 3: due for a big one. Feeling good, all right, Hey, 1826 01:21:48,880 --> 01:21:51,360 Speaker 3: well my man, feeling good? Moy Yeah. 1827 01:21:51,479 --> 01:21:55,360 Speaker 2: Special thanks to sal the Baccio, Josh Joe, Michael Durell 1828 01:21:55,400 --> 01:21:58,200 Speaker 2: for joining the show, our board operator Max Stroubel, on 1829 01:21:58,280 --> 01:22:01,040 Speaker 2: site engineers the Lovely Brenna Rodgers. This production assistant is 1830 01:22:01,040 --> 01:22:03,559 Speaker 2: Ashley Oaks, and our executive producer Nasa Toby. 1831 01:22:03,800 --> 01:22:05,679 Speaker 3: The Seahawks pregame show was live. 1832 01:22:05,520 --> 01:22:08,000 Speaker 2: This Sunday, starting to get ten am until next time. 1833 01:22:08,360 --> 01:22:11,240 Speaker 3: Michael Bumbas, Paul Moya. 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