1 00:00:04,120 --> 00:00:10,040 Speaker 1: It's that time, time, time, time, luck and load. 2 00:00:11,680 --> 00:00:15,240 Speaker 2: Michael Very show is on the air. Jan's ready for you. 3 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:20,640 Speaker 1: Okay, bring it home now, and don't forget the new 4 00:00:20,680 --> 00:00:24,040 Speaker 1: black man phrase I touched give me this zo, yes. 5 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 2: Sir, remember that. I'll be right outside off an evening. 6 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 3: All right. 7 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 4: Yeah, I tell Mike some new phrases I wanted to 8 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 4: get to raise it just help us. 9 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:38,200 Speaker 5: I must admit I'm quite amused that Ruce Springsteen still 10 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:41,000 Speaker 5: thinks that he can have some sort of impact on 11 00:00:41,040 --> 00:00:48,560 Speaker 5: the politics of this country. People are capable of compartmentalizing. Hey, 12 00:00:49,120 --> 00:00:52,360 Speaker 5: I like your music. I don't think you know anything 13 00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:57,639 Speaker 5: about governing the country or my life and economics, politics, finance, 14 00:00:58,520 --> 00:01:02,400 Speaker 5: immigration policy. So you're welcome to say whatever you want, 15 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:05,960 Speaker 5: but I won't listen to it. I just like your music. Now, 16 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 5: some of you will say, well, his music is no good. 17 00:01:09,000 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: All right. 18 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,959 Speaker 5: If you determine if somebody's music is good or not 19 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 5: based on whether you like their politics, that is certainly 20 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:19,840 Speaker 5: your prerogative. But that's not the basis upon which I 21 00:01:20,040 --> 00:01:24,080 Speaker 5: judge music. And let me give an example. So let's 22 00:01:24,080 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 5: say doctor Debake, a famous Houston heart surgeon. You know 23 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:34,040 Speaker 5: Houston pioneered the heart transplant. And let's say that guy 24 00:01:34,120 --> 00:01:36,120 Speaker 5: came out. Didn't happen, but let's just say he came 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,920 Speaker 5: out and said at the time, Barack Obama would make 26 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:39,640 Speaker 5: a great president. 27 00:01:39,720 --> 00:01:41,080 Speaker 2: I'm supporting him. He'll be the. 28 00:01:41,120 --> 00:01:44,080 Speaker 5: Greatest president in history. And you were to say, debate, 29 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,559 Speaker 5: he's an idiot. His heart transplants don't work. 30 00:01:46,720 --> 00:01:47,080 Speaker 2: Well. 31 00:01:47,280 --> 00:01:50,720 Speaker 5: No, his heart transplants do work, and they were cutting edge, 32 00:01:51,240 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 5: and the world studied them and they were amazing. I 33 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 5: don't know what his politics were, but maybe his politics 34 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,160 Speaker 5: were whack. It did not affect the under issue of 35 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:06,280 Speaker 5: whether his art or science, or contributions or achievements. You 36 00:02:06,360 --> 00:02:09,799 Speaker 5: really really like Tom Brady's love of Donald Trump, therefore 37 00:02:09,800 --> 00:02:10,919 Speaker 5: he's the greatest of all time. 38 00:02:11,560 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 2: But it wouldn't change. 39 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,839 Speaker 5: His stats or his skill level if he had thought 40 00:02:14,880 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 5: Obama was great. 41 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,080 Speaker 2: So I understand a lot of people do that. 42 00:02:18,160 --> 00:02:22,840 Speaker 5: I don't do that, and so understanding, I've never been 43 00:02:22,880 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 5: a Bruce Springsteen fan. So the funny thing about this 44 00:02:25,680 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 5: is I don't actually care for Bruce Pringstein's music. I've 45 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:31,359 Speaker 5: never thought it was as great as everyone else did. 46 00:02:31,840 --> 00:02:34,919 Speaker 5: I really hate his politics. And so now he's gone 47 00:02:34,960 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 5: on tour as an old man who is washed up 48 00:02:37,639 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 5: and his voice is more busted than ever before. And 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 5: I do think he sounds awful on stage now more 50 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:46,280 Speaker 5: than ever. I never got the appeal to Bruce Springsteen, 51 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 5: but I do understand it was there, and he really, 52 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 5: really really has Trump delusion syndrome, real bad, and so yeah, 53 00:02:55,960 --> 00:03:00,919 Speaker 5: there he was in Mogudi issue with the Governor of Minnesota. 54 00:03:01,120 --> 00:03:06,800 Speaker 3: Hello Minnesota in America too. I guess it's your boy, 55 00:03:06,919 --> 00:03:10,720 Speaker 3: Timmy Wolves jumping on the socials to recap what a 56 00:03:10,880 --> 00:03:15,640 Speaker 3: riveting weekend it was in the Land of ten Thousand Lakes. 57 00:03:16,240 --> 00:03:19,040 Speaker 3: I've got a little pep in my step because, as 58 00:03:19,080 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 3: you probably know, the Boss wasn't down for our no 59 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:22,960 Speaker 3: King's rally. 60 00:03:23,400 --> 00:03:25,000 Speaker 2: No, not Donald Trump. 61 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:30,079 Speaker 3: It was the real Boss, Bruce Springsteen, five feet ten 62 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 3: inches of pure power. Fun fact, did you know a 63 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 3: young cock starting the Born to Run video? 64 00:03:36,680 --> 00:03:38,400 Speaker 2: A young Corney Cox? 65 00:03:38,800 --> 00:03:39,600 Speaker 1: What a treat? 66 00:03:40,120 --> 00:03:44,800 Speaker 3: Annywho your boy? Timmy took the mic and introduced Bruce. 67 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:48,040 Speaker 3: I have to say, boy, was I'm nervous. 68 00:03:48,240 --> 00:03:49,520 Speaker 2: I was shaken like a leaf. 69 00:03:50,080 --> 00:03:53,600 Speaker 3: But I took a deep breath, close my eyes and 70 00:03:53,720 --> 00:03:57,640 Speaker 3: imagine Bruce and I were just dancing in the dark. 71 00:03:57,920 --> 00:04:00,600 Speaker 2: The calmness took over your kiddy. I was wanting to 72 00:04:00,720 --> 00:04:04,920 Speaker 2: visit the glory days and his secret garden. Now I 73 00:04:05,000 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 2: needed some of his human touch, so I reached out 74 00:04:08,080 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: and shook the Boss's hand. 75 00:04:09,840 --> 00:04:11,880 Speaker 3: Now he didn't have a real firm handshake, and that's 76 00:04:11,920 --> 00:04:12,960 Speaker 3: what I loved. 77 00:04:13,160 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 2: Nothing worse than a big firm handshake when you meet someone. 78 00:04:16,360 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 3: Yeah. Now, everybody's got a hungry heart, and I know 79 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 3: I did. When Bruce performed Streets of many ufolos that 80 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,040 Speaker 3: sung just for us, I nearly busted out of my 81 00:04:28,080 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 3: breeches with excitement. Then the show climax, when Bruce and 82 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:36,760 Speaker 3: I locked us, we grabbed the micro and touched cheeks 83 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 3: as we walked off the stage and sang Babby. 84 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:41,960 Speaker 1: Neither born. 85 00:04:45,760 --> 00:04:54,160 Speaker 3: Traps like us, Mabby, we were born in the road. 86 00:04:55,240 --> 00:04:58,120 Speaker 5: Because I know some of you enjoy your music to 87 00:04:58,200 --> 00:05:01,919 Speaker 5: have a political tinge to it. A fellow that's not 88 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 5: excited about Bruce Springsteen being on tour at all. Harold 89 00:05:05,120 --> 00:05:09,039 Speaker 5: Zert wrote a song called Hey, mister Springsteen, and this 90 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,360 Speaker 5: is his answer to that old fella out there trying 91 00:05:12,400 --> 00:05:13,640 Speaker 5: to trash Trump. 92 00:05:14,640 --> 00:05:19,520 Speaker 1: In Mister Springsteen, you're on the wrong side. 93 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 2: You should be singing about choot. 94 00:05:23,320 --> 00:05:29,120 Speaker 1: And ood guy at the hands of illegals, you know, 95 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 1: justice for them, Yet they go on notice, but we 96 00:05:35,040 --> 00:05:36,160 Speaker 1: won't forget. 97 00:05:37,800 --> 00:05:38,760 Speaker 4: Money you. 98 00:05:39,279 --> 00:05:45,200 Speaker 1: Let's say myself the work and what happened to our 99 00:05:45,680 --> 00:06:02,719 Speaker 1: hero and his a fall on the streets of Minneapolis 100 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,880 Speaker 1: stealing our money every day? 101 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:08,320 Speaker 2: Get you protect. 102 00:06:08,000 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 1: Them and your democratic way. It's us you should be 103 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: helping with your Protestant songs. Hey, mister Springsteen, you're wrong. 104 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:30,800 Speaker 2: Body in the say who saw what happened to our hero? 105 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 4: And he's love for this. 106 00:06:51,360 --> 00:06:58,359 Speaker 2: Bizar of talk radio The Michael Verry Show. Not everybody was. 107 00:06:58,400 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 5: Raised with our values, and we have allowed it to 108 00:07:02,880 --> 00:07:07,159 Speaker 5: become the case that our values are discussed as being 109 00:07:08,279 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 5: out of date from another time. We have allowed it 110 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 5: to be discussed that things that are identified, whether rightly 111 00:07:22,080 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 5: or only, as being very white, are laughable. 112 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:30,800 Speaker 2: Or something to be ashamed of. 113 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:36,520 Speaker 5: It used to be that that meant that your assets 114 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,640 Speaker 5: were paid off and you had a retirement account. 115 00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:41,040 Speaker 2: That was white privilege. 116 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 5: But then it became the case that dysfunctional black women 117 00:07:47,840 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 5: running for office. It was never the black men. It 118 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 5: was always the dysfunctional black women. The Jasmine Crocketts and 119 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 5: Sheila Jackson Lee's and Maxine waters Is and Eddie Bernice Johnson, 120 00:07:57,520 --> 00:07:59,320 Speaker 5: and I could go on Cynthia McKinney. 121 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:01,440 Speaker 2: They would refer. 122 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 5: To having two parents, plan pregnancy, have a baby, raise 123 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 5: a baby, put aside money for a vocational school or college, 124 00:08:15,480 --> 00:08:19,440 Speaker 5: assist the child with buying their first home, maybe bring 125 00:08:19,440 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 5: them into the family business, read to them at night, 126 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:31,640 Speaker 5: tuck them in at night. That those cultural traits were 127 00:08:31,640 --> 00:08:36,319 Speaker 5: referred to as white privilege, and that was supposed to 128 00:08:36,320 --> 00:08:40,839 Speaker 5: be something you were ashamed of and people stood by 129 00:08:40,920 --> 00:08:45,920 Speaker 5: for it because white people have grown accustomed to some 130 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:48,800 Speaker 5: sort of guilt over the fact that whites by and 131 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:54,760 Speaker 5: large do better than blacks in America. And that's not 132 00:08:54,880 --> 00:09:00,040 Speaker 5: an accident and it's not slavery. It's cultural traits. Do 133 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,360 Speaker 5: you want to know the extent to which it's cultural traits. 134 00:09:05,960 --> 00:09:12,040 Speaker 5: Look at anyone who is black in this country who 135 00:09:12,080 --> 00:09:16,199 Speaker 5: is a self made non singer, non actor, non athlete, 136 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:23,720 Speaker 5: so a businessman in this country who is financially successful. 137 00:09:25,280 --> 00:09:31,640 Speaker 5: They will be referred to in terms of as I 138 00:09:31,640 --> 00:09:33,800 Speaker 5: can't remember his name, ron as Chad, the name of 139 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 5: the fellow that wrote the book. 140 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:39,079 Speaker 2: I was not acting white. 141 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:43,720 Speaker 5: I can't think of the term for His name was Ron. 142 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,560 Speaker 5: He was an advisor to President George W. 143 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:47,080 Speaker 2: Bush. 144 00:09:47,120 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 5: But he said the original black insult was basically the 145 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:55,960 Speaker 5: house negro term. The house negro during slave times was 146 00:09:56,040 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 5: what the field hands would refer to as the black 147 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,880 Speaker 5: person who was all a slave, but they got to 148 00:10:02,960 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 5: work in the house. They got to work outside of 149 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,839 Speaker 5: the direct heat. There wasn't air conditioning, obviously, but there 150 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,200 Speaker 5: was better quality food and better quality conditions, and less 151 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 5: strenuous work, and no whippings and no harsh conditions, and 152 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,439 Speaker 5: so they were referred to as acting They referred to 153 00:10:22,480 --> 00:10:26,720 Speaker 5: as house negroes. Then, over a period of time, blacks 154 00:10:27,160 --> 00:10:30,880 Speaker 5: who took on traits of oh, I don't know, putting 155 00:10:30,960 --> 00:10:37,920 Speaker 5: a G on the end of Jaron's, or spoke with 156 00:10:37,960 --> 00:10:42,839 Speaker 5: what would be referred to traditionally as proper diction, who 157 00:10:42,880 --> 00:10:49,520 Speaker 5: conjugated their b verbs by traditional norms, those people were 158 00:10:49,520 --> 00:10:53,120 Speaker 5: referred to as acting white. And so you'd have the 159 00:10:53,200 --> 00:10:55,920 Speaker 5: kid who was the worst in the class, most violent, 160 00:10:56,960 --> 00:11:00,840 Speaker 5: most likely to end up in prison, award winner would 161 00:11:00,880 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 5: insult the black kid who was studying hard to get 162 00:11:04,360 --> 00:11:06,920 Speaker 5: a scholarship to go to school. We may not have 163 00:11:06,960 --> 00:11:10,760 Speaker 5: any money, but he's working hard on his academics. As 164 00:11:10,840 --> 00:11:15,320 Speaker 5: acting white, And that was the original awful insult. Did 165 00:11:15,320 --> 00:11:20,040 Speaker 5: you get the guy's name Ron? See if Chad Ron White? 166 00:11:20,080 --> 00:11:20,839 Speaker 4: What was he Ron? 167 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:22,920 Speaker 5: I can't remember his last name, chattle Nutt. We had 168 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:24,319 Speaker 5: him on who wrote a book about it, called it. 169 00:11:24,360 --> 00:11:27,280 Speaker 5: The book is called Acting White. About ten minutes ago, 170 00:11:27,320 --> 00:11:30,120 Speaker 5: you could have googled acting White. Yeah, so you're not 171 00:11:30,160 --> 00:11:34,240 Speaker 5: acting white right now? Just so you know, Ron Christy, Yes, 172 00:11:34,280 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 5: that's correct. 173 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 2: Thank you. 174 00:11:35,920 --> 00:11:39,719 Speaker 5: Was that so hard? I said, ask Chad, you could 175 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,600 Speaker 5: have googled it. That's the same thing, Chad is google. 176 00:11:45,200 --> 00:11:48,280 Speaker 5: So Ron Christy told the story that he would be 177 00:11:48,280 --> 00:11:51,120 Speaker 5: going to school, and back in those days, my mother 178 00:11:51,200 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 5: used to do this. 179 00:11:51,800 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 2: You'd take your books. 180 00:11:53,360 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 5: You take a belt with the age before backpacks, take 181 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 5: a belt and you wrap it around the books and 182 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 5: you you'd sense it real tight and you'd throw it 183 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 5: over your shoulder like Johnny Appleseed. You carry your books. 184 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:09,360 Speaker 5: And he told the story that it wasn't the white kids, 185 00:12:09,360 --> 00:12:12,160 Speaker 5: it was the black kids at the door to the 186 00:12:12,200 --> 00:12:16,199 Speaker 5: school that would knock the books out of his little 187 00:12:16,200 --> 00:12:19,839 Speaker 5: backpack makeshift backpack. It was the black kids who ridiculed it, 188 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 5: not the white kids, he said. I learned very early 189 00:12:22,760 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 5: on that the racism my experience was not from white people. 190 00:12:26,320 --> 00:12:30,160 Speaker 5: It was from black people, he said. The whites, whether 191 00:12:30,200 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 5: it was at church or school. You see this in 192 00:12:33,640 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 5: the military. Whites were very supportive of me, and whites 193 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 5: are very supportive. Whites are very supportive of blacks who 194 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:47,800 Speaker 5: want to better themselves. They're very supportive of whites who 195 00:12:47,840 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 5: want to better themselves. It's a cultural trait. It is 196 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:59,959 Speaker 5: something that is celebrated. Help other people's scholarships, mentoring internships. 197 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 5: These are cultural traits that are celebrated. And yet and 198 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 5: yet you have this idea that it's a terrible thing, 199 00:13:12,120 --> 00:13:14,960 Speaker 5: that it's to you should be ashamed of him. You know, 200 00:13:15,040 --> 00:13:19,760 Speaker 5: I read all the time these these sort of doomsday 201 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:24,120 Speaker 5: predictions that whites will be in the minority, that this 202 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,960 Speaker 5: sort of suggestion sit down and shut up because soon 203 00:13:27,120 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 5: we'll be in charge and you won't. And if you 204 00:13:30,120 --> 00:13:32,800 Speaker 5: act right while you're still in the majority, which you 205 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:36,080 Speaker 5: won't be for long, then when the whippings of you begin, 206 00:13:36,240 --> 00:13:40,360 Speaker 5: will you'll get better treatment than the others because you 207 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 5: won't ever be in charge again, will be in charge, 208 00:13:43,120 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 5: and once we do, we're going to run this place. 209 00:13:46,200 --> 00:13:49,760 Speaker 5: We will run this town. Rihanna and Chris Brown style, Oh, 210 00:13:50,000 --> 00:13:52,880 Speaker 5: Rihanna and jay Z Sorry, we're going to run this thing. 211 00:13:52,960 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 5: When we do, it's going to be hell on you. 212 00:13:55,200 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 5: And it's turned out that that's been the case. The 213 00:13:57,200 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 5: history of black mayors in Houston in America has not 214 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,920 Speaker 5: been a positive thing. But there is this idea that 215 00:14:03,000 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 5: whites are going to be marginalized and minimized and you 216 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:08,959 Speaker 5: won't be the predominant culture because it'll be the people 217 00:14:08,960 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 5: from all over the world who will take over. And 218 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 5: my answer to that is why the Japanese aren't being 219 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,000 Speaker 5: overrun by the rest of the world and then being 220 00:14:19,040 --> 00:14:20,920 Speaker 5: told shut up and sit down because we're taking over. 221 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 5: There's gonna be waves and waves of us coming. And 222 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:26,000 Speaker 5: trust me, we can't wait till we're in charge because 223 00:14:26,000 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 5: we'll subjugate you. Why why does it have to be 224 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 5: the case? Why do white people have to be displaced 225 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:35,200 Speaker 5: and marginalized? Why am I the bad guy? 226 00:14:36,040 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 2: Why am I the. 227 00:14:37,040 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 5: Horrible person for bringing those things up? As people tell me, 228 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 5: you know, these stories just keep coming again and again 229 00:14:43,680 --> 00:14:45,880 Speaker 5: and again. And it's not that there's never a Republican, 230 00:14:45,920 --> 00:14:50,560 Speaker 5: but it's almost never a Republican. And it speaks a 231 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 5: lot to the kind of people who run for office 232 00:14:52,720 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 5: as a Democrat. Florida Democratic Reps Sheila Chrphilis McCormick was 233 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:05,000 Speaker 5: accused of stealing five million dollars in COVID relief funds. 234 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 5: Has been found guilty of twenty five ethics charges during 235 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 5: a special House Ethics subcommittee hearing. Also facing federal charges, 236 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:20,960 Speaker 5: where prosecutors say she bought herself over a three carrot 237 00:15:21,160 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 5: yellow diamond ring with some of the money, and is 238 00:15:25,680 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 5: accused of falsely inflating business expenses and charitable contributions to 239 00:15:32,560 --> 00:15:35,440 Speaker 5: reduce her tax liability. 240 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:40,840 Speaker 6: It was absolutely no theft, absolutely no theft of five million. 241 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:44,960 Speaker 7: Dollars, Congresswoman Sheila Cheerfulest McCormick fighting back, just forty eight 242 00:15:45,000 --> 00:15:48,480 Speaker 7: hours after a House committee said the congresswoman violated House 243 00:15:48,600 --> 00:15:50,480 Speaker 7: rules and ethics standards. 244 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 2: Twenty five times. 245 00:15:52,040 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 7: On this week in South Florid of Glenna Milburgh Cheerfulest 246 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,560 Speaker 7: McCormick denied one of the accusations that she stole millions 247 00:15:58,560 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 7: of dollars in COVID relief money to use for her 248 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:02,440 Speaker 7: twenty twenty two campaign. 249 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 6: There was an agreement for the money I was supposed 250 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:09,480 Speaker 6: to be paid for working as an independent contractor because 251 00:16:09,520 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 6: I was in the field. 252 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 2: So take me to this. 253 00:16:11,840 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 8: Take take me down to the detail, because what we're 254 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 8: talking about is actually an invoice from the company for 255 00:16:16,040 --> 00:16:17,119 Speaker 8: five hundred thousand. 256 00:16:16,880 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 6: Dollars that was paid. 257 00:16:18,120 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 2: So let that allow me to finish. 258 00:16:20,000 --> 00:16:24,400 Speaker 8: Please the contract that the invoice for the contract that 259 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 8: was being paid. It was a mistaken amount that was paid, 260 00:16:28,800 --> 00:16:31,320 Speaker 8: and the mistake was a decipel point. Actually the decimal 261 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,360 Speaker 8: point was one side over. So the payment that the 262 00:16:34,400 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 8: state made erroneously was five million dollars when the payment 263 00:16:37,440 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 8: was supposed to be five hundred thousand. That that is 264 00:16:39,760 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 8: a fact. 265 00:16:40,640 --> 00:16:42,520 Speaker 6: So that is a fact if you're looking at what 266 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:45,400 Speaker 6: we were discussing, right, because we can't discuss all the 267 00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,080 Speaker 6: details we're talking about. Did I actually have a right? 268 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 6: Was there a billing? 269 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 2: Correct? 270 00:16:49,440 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 6: Did I have a right to the funds that we 271 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 6: were supposed to get? 272 00:16:51,760 --> 00:16:54,880 Speaker 2: The fact of the matter is yes. Now, the States. 273 00:16:54,560 --> 00:16:57,640 Speaker 6: Itself said that they had an era. Not only did 274 00:16:57,640 --> 00:16:59,240 Speaker 6: the States say that they had an era, it was 275 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,040 Speaker 6: a system era throughout the entire state of Florida. The 276 00:17:02,040 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 6: state of Florida has not prosecuted, not one person for that. 277 00:17:05,359 --> 00:17:06,680 Speaker 2: The federal government. 278 00:17:06,320 --> 00:17:08,399 Speaker 6: Has not prosecuted, not one person. 279 00:17:08,520 --> 00:17:11,280 Speaker 8: But the issue here, congress Woman, is that money was 280 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 8: paid and not returned and alleged to be diverted to 281 00:17:14,320 --> 00:17:15,119 Speaker 8: your campaign. 282 00:17:15,200 --> 00:17:17,919 Speaker 2: It wasn't about you other people. It isn't about so 283 00:17:18,440 --> 00:17:19,200 Speaker 2: which is Glenna. 284 00:17:19,240 --> 00:17:21,080 Speaker 6: This is what I'm trying to explain to you, right 285 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 6: that it's false. 286 00:17:22,960 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 7: Thursday's rare public hearing looked into a total of twenty 287 00:17:26,119 --> 00:17:32,720 Speaker 7: seven charges, including eighteen campaign finance violations, five false financial disclosures, 288 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,520 Speaker 7: three misusing official funds, one lack of candor. 289 00:17:36,640 --> 00:17:39,040 Speaker 2: The panel found cause for all but two. 290 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 7: The congresswoman faces federal criminal charges for those same accusations. 291 00:17:44,200 --> 00:17:46,800 Speaker 7: She says, that's what's made Thursday's. 292 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:47,640 Speaker 2: Hearing so difficult. 293 00:17:48,080 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 6: That we argue that if they go forward with a 294 00:17:50,320 --> 00:17:54,159 Speaker 6: public hearing, or even having this summary judgment hearing, that 295 00:17:54,280 --> 00:17:56,160 Speaker 6: it would tant my criminal trial. 296 00:17:57,920 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 7: And the congresswoman's federal trial is set to begin in 297 00:18:01,040 --> 00:18:03,560 Speaker 7: less than a month. If she is convicted, she faces 298 00:18:03,560 --> 00:18:06,880 Speaker 7: more than fifty years in prison on the House ethics violations. 299 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,520 Speaker 7: Congress could vote to expel her from office. 300 00:18:10,240 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 5: I know that people struggle with race conversation in this country, 301 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:15,120 Speaker 5: and by. 302 00:18:15,000 --> 00:18:18,199 Speaker 2: The way, that story was wp LG TV out of 303 00:18:18,240 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 2: Miami meant to give them credit. I know that. 304 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:25,440 Speaker 5: Many people, you may be one of them. Your chances 305 00:18:25,480 --> 00:18:30,200 Speaker 5: are you are struggle with talking about things where race 306 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,000 Speaker 5: is involved. She does happen to be a black woman, 307 00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,639 Speaker 5: and she's clearly a crook, and so I'll say what 308 00:18:38,400 --> 00:18:42,560 Speaker 5: nobody will say, but everybody knows it seems to be 309 00:18:42,680 --> 00:18:47,280 Speaker 5: the case that a lot of black elected officials are crooks. 310 00:18:48,920 --> 00:18:52,679 Speaker 5: They commit fraud, you know, they take COVID funds, they 311 00:18:52,760 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 5: take any sort of government funds they possibly can. And 312 00:18:57,560 --> 00:19:00,240 Speaker 5: I don't think that's an accident. I think I think 313 00:19:00,280 --> 00:19:04,399 Speaker 5: that black voters have been all too willing to reward 314 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 5: in districts that are seen as black districts, to reward 315 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 5: absolute Charlatan's the kinds of people running for office and 316 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 5: the associations they have with the people who are. 317 00:19:17,400 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 2: The power brokers in black politics. 318 00:19:21,800 --> 00:19:24,959 Speaker 5: It's not a bug in the system that you're getting 319 00:19:25,119 --> 00:19:28,240 Speaker 5: criminals representing black districts. 320 00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:31,960 Speaker 2: It's a design, and. 321 00:19:31,920 --> 00:19:34,280 Speaker 5: So you end up with a lot of black folks going, 322 00:19:35,040 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 5: I don't even like so and so who claims to 323 00:19:37,320 --> 00:19:42,119 Speaker 5: speak for me. You see Eddie Bernice Johnson, who was 324 00:19:43,640 --> 00:19:47,399 Speaker 5: such a scoundrel, she was stealing money or using the 325 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:53,439 Speaker 5: Congressional Scholarship fund. You say, Cynthia McKinney, who had to 326 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 5: be run off. Jasmine Crockett had all sorts of issues. 327 00:19:58,200 --> 00:20:00,040 Speaker 5: You had, big berth. 328 00:19:59,800 --> 00:20:00,560 Speaker 2: Of a woman. 329 00:20:00,680 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 5: LaToya in New York went after Trump for mortgage fraud 330 00:20:06,600 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 5: which he didn't commit, when in fact, she was committing 331 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:13,480 Speaker 5: it prima facia as clearly as you could possibly do. 332 00:20:14,800 --> 00:20:20,320 Speaker 5: She was just an absolute fraud, and I think that 333 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:21,240 Speaker 5: should be addressed. 334 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 2: I think that. 335 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:29,560 Speaker 5: Black leadership needs to be replaced by people of ethics. 336 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:33,720 Speaker 5: The problem is, you've got a lot of people who 337 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 5: call themselves leaders of the Black church who are just 338 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:46,320 Speaker 5: Charlatan's Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton, the church slash activist movement. 339 00:20:47,240 --> 00:20:50,600 Speaker 5: That whole thing was just a blackmail operation, pure and simple. 340 00:20:52,280 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 2: Pay us or we'll show up and protest, We'll call 341 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:58,640 Speaker 2: you a racist. 342 00:21:00,080 --> 00:21:03,960 Speaker 5: And then you've got a number of black pastors who 343 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:10,280 Speaker 5: are absolutely misusing funds and engaged in this sort of 344 00:21:10,440 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 5: self aggrandizing nonsense. TD Jakes would be a great example. 345 00:21:16,880 --> 00:21:19,880 Speaker 5: And I think there is a much greater tolerance by 346 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:23,200 Speaker 5: blacks for this sort of nonsense. And if you don't 347 00:21:23,240 --> 00:21:25,680 Speaker 5: want to be a part of this, if you can't 348 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:28,880 Speaker 5: abide this, you leave it and talk bad about it. 349 00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 2: That's what the Blexit movement was about. 350 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: You talk to black people who have had enough of 351 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 5: this nonsense and they want no part of it. They 352 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:42,680 Speaker 5: don't want to be in the black fraternity where they're 353 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 5: stealing the money, the Black sorority where they're stealing money, 354 00:21:45,400 --> 00:21:47,800 Speaker 5: the Black church where they. 355 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:48,160 Speaker 2: Want no part of it anymore. 356 00:21:49,320 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 5: And I think that's unfortunate because I don't think that 357 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:57,720 Speaker 5: was always the case. I think the Civil rights movement, well, 358 00:21:57,880 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 5: I do believe there were some scoundrels as part of that. 359 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:07,240 Speaker 5: I think it was these organizations and institutions that were 360 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:17,560 Speaker 5: sources of organizing and mobilizing, informing pressuring during the Civil 361 00:22:17,680 --> 00:22:20,679 Speaker 5: Rights movement, and some of them did very good things. 362 00:22:21,880 --> 00:22:25,040 Speaker 5: But you look at the NAACP, they've lost their way. 363 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:30,920 Speaker 5: The Rainbow Coalition was always a blackmail operation. Al Sharpton's 364 00:22:31,000 --> 00:22:36,800 Speaker 5: organization has always been a blackmail operation. And and by 365 00:22:36,840 --> 00:22:40,760 Speaker 5: the way, that is what Barack Obama grew up in. 366 00:22:42,000 --> 00:22:45,640 Speaker 5: But when we were told that he was a social 367 00:22:45,880 --> 00:22:50,800 Speaker 5: justice warrior organizer, that was all code for exactly what this, 368 00:22:51,240 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 5: what this what we're talking. 369 00:22:52,440 --> 00:22:53,080 Speaker 2: About right now? 370 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,200 Speaker 5: This is the Michael Berry Show, Locked and loaded, Loaded. 371 00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:05,919 Speaker 5: I'm gonna talk fast because I want to get to 372 00:23:05,960 --> 00:23:07,919 Speaker 5: a lot in this segment, and I have two long 373 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:13,000 Speaker 5: audio clips. First starts with Michigan State men's basketball coach 374 00:23:13,040 --> 00:23:17,960 Speaker 5: Tom is a legend. He had the best defense for 375 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:22,840 Speaker 5: quote unquote old school coaching because reporters were saying, you're 376 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:26,600 Speaker 5: yelling at the players. It's mean, because reporters will destroy 377 00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:27,800 Speaker 5: everything I've given the chance. 378 00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 2: And here's what he said. 379 00:23:29,760 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 4: You know, it's so misunderstood sometimes too, you know, I 380 00:23:34,040 --> 00:23:37,119 Speaker 4: mean everybody says so differently. I mean, I had a 381 00:23:37,119 --> 00:23:40,000 Speaker 4: football coach I couldn't say, oh what else. Swearing didn't 382 00:23:40,040 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 4: mean he was mad at me. He was just that 383 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:44,240 Speaker 4: he was, you know, just part of his language. I'm Italian, 384 00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:48,240 Speaker 4: you know, I speak with my hands and sometimes my voice. 385 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:51,159 Speaker 4: But I just want to know what this concept is 386 00:23:51,200 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 4: that you all have, or anybody has, that a kid 387 00:23:54,600 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 4: can do the same thing wrong fifty times and you're 388 00:23:56,800 --> 00:24:00,240 Speaker 4: supposed to say, tee, Johnny, hey, Mark better having a 389 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,320 Speaker 4: mic next time you just screwed up fifteen times. Yeah, 390 00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:07,640 Speaker 4: I know I yank you for that, but I don't 391 00:24:07,720 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: understand that concept. You know, it never used to be 392 00:24:10,359 --> 00:24:12,920 Speaker 4: the way, and now we're supposed to just hug and 393 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:15,919 Speaker 4: kiss everybody, you know what, do your job right and 394 00:24:15,920 --> 00:24:17,320 Speaker 4: go to class. And you want to hear about not 395 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:20,280 Speaker 4: going to class, you know, cut out. You want to 396 00:24:20,280 --> 00:24:23,640 Speaker 4: hear about not cutting out and if you're that dumb 397 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:28,240 Speaker 4: bad word. But the truth that you think any coach 398 00:24:28,280 --> 00:24:31,560 Speaker 4: in America would be yelling at a guy because you 399 00:24:31,600 --> 00:24:34,320 Speaker 4: did it wrong once or twice or five times or 400 00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,080 Speaker 4: ten times, you have no idea what coaching is all about, 401 00:24:37,680 --> 00:24:41,000 Speaker 4: because every day in practice he's probably hearing the same thing. 402 00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:44,159 Speaker 4: I mellowed some because you have to mellow at the times, 403 00:24:44,200 --> 00:24:48,040 Speaker 4: you know. I mean, guys, twenty four years ago, I 404 00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:51,240 Speaker 4: put football pads on my team because we got beat 405 00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:54,160 Speaker 4: by Ohouse State in a rebounding for the first time 406 00:24:54,200 --> 00:24:56,960 Speaker 4: all year. I used to have film of it. Every 407 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 4: time my players come back, they want film, and that's 408 00:24:59,359 --> 00:25:02,640 Speaker 4: go watch the football game we had on you know. Hell, 409 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,200 Speaker 4: Once the lawyers started suing everybody for everything that that 410 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:09,040 Speaker 4: film's in the Deep six. Okay, but I miss that. 411 00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,920 Speaker 4: I want to bring it back some You know, it 412 00:25:11,040 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: was fun, it was a memory making moment. It was enjoyable. 413 00:25:15,119 --> 00:25:19,600 Speaker 4: Everybody takes things so personal now, so you know, I'm 414 00:25:19,640 --> 00:25:21,639 Speaker 4: at one point in my career that I'm happy. 415 00:25:22,080 --> 00:25:23,119 Speaker 2: I don't give a damn. 416 00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:27,119 Speaker 4: I don't, but I tell you what, I don't have 417 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 4: many players that leave. I don't have many players that 418 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:36,040 Speaker 4: don't come back. So somebody must enjoy something. How about this. 419 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:41,360 Speaker 4: If you all think and fans think, immediate themes accountability 420 00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:45,240 Speaker 4: is important, Let's just make our kids atountable and after 421 00:25:45,280 --> 00:25:47,639 Speaker 4: that everything's cool. Thank you. 422 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,080 Speaker 5: Sticking with our basketball theme, I would like to close 423 00:25:52,119 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 5: this segment with a quote. It's a testimony, actually, and 424 00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,520 Speaker 5: I understand that's off putting for some people, so by 425 00:25:59,560 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 5: all means, change the channel. Pistol Pete Maravich is one 426 00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:08,920 Speaker 5: of the greatest players of basketball of all time, maybe 427 00:26:08,960 --> 00:26:11,960 Speaker 5: the greatest college basketball player of all time, certainly the 428 00:26:12,000 --> 00:26:17,480 Speaker 5: greatest college freshman player of all time. He's an LSU legend. 429 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:21,080 Speaker 5: You either know or you don't know. If you do know, 430 00:26:21,160 --> 00:26:23,600 Speaker 5: I don't have to tell you but a lot of 431 00:26:23,600 --> 00:26:27,159 Speaker 5: people know that he died young at forty during a 432 00:26:27,200 --> 00:26:30,040 Speaker 5: pickup game nineteen eighty eight. He had a heart condition 433 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:34,120 Speaker 5: that had not been detected. And unfortunately, I still think 434 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:37,200 Speaker 5: he had greatness ahead of him. You know why not, 435 00:26:37,240 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 5: because he would be named the NBA's fiftieth Anniversary Team 436 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:42,240 Speaker 5: in nineteen ninety six. He was and seventy fifth Anniversary 437 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:45,240 Speaker 5: team in twenty twenty one, but about a year before 438 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:52,040 Speaker 5: his passing. He's not Billy Graham, but he did preach. 439 00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,119 Speaker 5: You shared his testimony of his faith in Jesus Christ, 440 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,400 Speaker 5: and I'd like to share that with you now because 441 00:26:58,440 --> 00:27:00,320 Speaker 5: you may not have known about it. This was in 442 00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,439 Speaker 5: nineteen eighty seven, about a year before the great Pistol 443 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 5: Pete would die. 444 00:27:04,200 --> 00:27:05,600 Speaker 9: When I was nineteen years old, I went out to 445 00:27:05,600 --> 00:27:08,199 Speaker 9: the Campus Crusade for Christ to put on a showtime clinic. 446 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 9: I didn't know anything else, just to go out there 447 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:11,800 Speaker 9: and do my clinic. I'd done it all around the world, 448 00:27:11,880 --> 00:27:13,679 Speaker 9: my dad and I. I took a friend with me, 449 00:27:13,840 --> 00:27:16,000 Speaker 9: and for three days I heard who Jesus Christ was, 450 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,120 Speaker 9: and for three days I rejected him. On the third night, 451 00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:23,440 Speaker 9: mister Bill Bright, the founder of Campus crusade. Give a 452 00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:27,080 Speaker 9: messis like mister Graham gives. And many young people came forward, 453 00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:29,520 Speaker 9: and my friend, who was just like me, we partied 454 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,719 Speaker 9: all the way out and we had a good time. 455 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,320 Speaker 9: We had all the pleasure we wanted. He went forward 456 00:27:33,359 --> 00:27:35,359 Speaker 9: with tears in his eyes. I said, what's wrong with you? 457 00:27:35,359 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 9: You can't follow this. I've seen all the hypocrites. I 458 00:27:38,320 --> 00:27:40,760 Speaker 9: don't want any part of this. Because I had my 459 00:27:40,800 --> 00:27:43,359 Speaker 9: goals set and I had attained my goals. I didn't 460 00:27:43,359 --> 00:27:45,000 Speaker 9: have time for christ and I went back out in 461 00:27:45,000 --> 00:27:48,240 Speaker 9: the wilderness. I went back out there for sixteen years 462 00:27:48,359 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 9: and I did everything I did in college. I became 463 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,639 Speaker 9: all Americans, and I got all the trophies and all 464 00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 9: the wars was on all the magazine covers. I had 465 00:27:55,040 --> 00:27:57,080 Speaker 9: a trophy six foot five and a quarter inches tall, 466 00:27:57,280 --> 00:27:58,879 Speaker 9: the same height as I am. It's still in the 467 00:27:58,920 --> 00:28:02,359 Speaker 9: attic from fifteen years, collecting dust, because that's what trophies do, 468 00:28:02,560 --> 00:28:07,080 Speaker 9: they collect dust. I signed the largest contract the history 469 00:28:07,119 --> 00:28:10,000 Speaker 9: of sports in nineteen seventy. I went to my dad. 470 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,040 Speaker 9: I said, Dad, I hope you're proud, because my dad 471 00:28:12,040 --> 00:28:13,959 Speaker 9: was always my hero. I said, I've got it. I've 472 00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:16,439 Speaker 9: signed a million dollar contract. I've made it to the pros. 473 00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:18,119 Speaker 9: Now all I got left is the ring. And when 474 00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:19,359 Speaker 9: I get the ring, I'll be able to sit by 475 00:28:19,359 --> 00:28:21,640 Speaker 9: the pool, twinkle my toes in the water, and sit 476 00:28:21,720 --> 00:28:23,640 Speaker 9: back with my drink and live happily ever after. That's 477 00:28:23,640 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 9: what I thought. But it just didn't turn out that way. 478 00:28:26,560 --> 00:28:28,760 Speaker 9: In nineteen eighty I quit basketball. I was just finding 479 00:28:29,320 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 9: I didn't know what to do. It was out of 480 00:28:30,520 --> 00:28:33,000 Speaker 9: bitterness and I was immature, and I became a recluse 481 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,720 Speaker 9: in my house in Mederie, Louisiana, and I tried to 482 00:28:35,720 --> 00:28:37,520 Speaker 9: be father of the year. I said, now throw all 483 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:39,440 Speaker 9: of my energies into my son. That's where I'll get 484 00:28:39,520 --> 00:28:41,840 Speaker 9: my joy. That's where I'll get my peace. But it 485 00:28:41,880 --> 00:28:45,240 Speaker 9: didn't work out. It didn't last, and for two years 486 00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 9: I divorced myself from basketball, stayed in the house. Used 487 00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,640 Speaker 9: to contemplate suicide, taking my Porsche out, driving one hundred 488 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,520 Speaker 9: and forty miles an hour across the bridge and going off. 489 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:56,000 Speaker 9: I'm glad I never did that. But in nineteen eighty two, 490 00:28:56,040 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 9: I went to bed one night. It was late night 491 00:28:57,360 --> 00:28:59,479 Speaker 9: and I was watching television. It was like any other night, 492 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:00,880 Speaker 9: and I just went to bed, and as I laid 493 00:29:00,920 --> 00:29:02,600 Speaker 9: in the bed, things started coming frome in my mind 494 00:29:02,640 --> 00:29:05,000 Speaker 9: and I could not sleep. And the things that were 495 00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:06,560 Speaker 9: coming off in my mind, I knew what they were. 496 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,080 Speaker 9: It was called sin. I knew the difference between right 497 00:29:09,120 --> 00:29:10,880 Speaker 9: and wrong. And I always had a heavy conscience. Whenever 498 00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,479 Speaker 9: I did something morally wrong, they would sin. It came 499 00:29:13,520 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 9: and it would not leave me alone. Everything I'd ever done, 500 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 9: all my rebellion against God, all my rebellyon against my parents, 501 00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:20,520 Speaker 9: the people I loved, the people I hated. I hated people. 502 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:23,480 Speaker 9: I had bitterness against people. It was driving me crazy. 503 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:24,800 Speaker 9: I couldn't get it out of my mind. I remember 504 00:29:24,840 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 9: crying out in my spirit. I said, oh God, you 505 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:28,920 Speaker 9: can have to save me. I can't take this life anymore. 506 00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,360 Speaker 9: I've had it with what they say makes you happy. 507 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 9: I've had it with what they say will make your 508 00:29:33,760 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 9: life just so good. And I remember, at that point, 509 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 9: with tears in my eyes, the Lord spoke to me. 510 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,200 Speaker 9: He said, be strong in the fine own heart. I'll 511 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,760 Speaker 9: never forget it. I'll never deny it. It reverberated through 512 00:29:45,800 --> 00:29:47,400 Speaker 9: my room. I was in shock. I sat up in 513 00:29:47,400 --> 00:29:47,680 Speaker 9: my bed. 514 00:29:47,720 --> 00:29:48,440 Speaker 2: I was not asleep. 515 00:29:48,520 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 9: I woke my wife up. She was in a deep sleep. 516 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:52,080 Speaker 9: I said, Jackie, did you hear that? Did you hear 517 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 9: what God said to me? But Jackie just didn't hear. 518 00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,680 Speaker 9: She said, I didn't hear anything, Pete and laid her 519 00:29:56,680 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 9: head back down. But I remember rolling off the bed 520 00:30:00,120 --> 00:30:02,280 Speaker 9: and I said, God, I know you there, and I. 521 00:30:02,240 --> 00:30:03,480 Speaker 2: Want my life to change. 522 00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,719 Speaker 9: And I remember back to when I was nineteen, when 523 00:30:05,720 --> 00:30:07,880 Speaker 9: I was at that campus crusade, and I said, come 524 00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:12,480 Speaker 9: into my life, forgive my sin, change me like you 525 00:30:12,520 --> 00:30:15,240 Speaker 9: want me to. Since that day, my life has changed 526 00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:17,320 Speaker 9: so dramatically. It's been almost four and a half years. 527 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,880 Speaker 9: I've never known the joy I have to night. I 528 00:30:19,920 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 9: know what faith is. Faith is a testing, faith is 529 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:25,400 Speaker 9: a preparation ground. That's why we are here. But joy 530 00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:28,120 Speaker 9: is trusting. That's what I found out. That's what it's 531 00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 9: all about. I want you, all of you to know 532 00:30:29,880 --> 00:30:32,680 Speaker 9: this tonight about Peter Maravich. You may never heard of me. 533 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,240 Speaker 9: It makes no difference. I'm just one person on this earth, 534 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:37,760 Speaker 9: saved by the grace of God through faith in Jesus Christ. 535 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:39,400 Speaker 9: And I want you to know this is the change 536 00:30:39,400 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 9: that came into my life was Jesus Christ. 537 00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:42,280 Speaker 2: It was not winning. 538 00:30:42,440 --> 00:30:44,040 Speaker 9: I want all my life, I want every trophy in 539 00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:45,720 Speaker 9: the war and everything you can think of. But every 540 00:30:45,720 --> 00:30:47,360 Speaker 9: time I want something, I wanted something more. 541 00:30:47,400 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 2: I had to win again. 542 00:30:48,320 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 9: It wasn't money, because money will buy everything, but happen, 543 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:52,160 Speaker 9: I said, it'll pay your fare to every place, but 544 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:55,120 Speaker 9: heaven material things. I've driven everything some of you strive for, 545 00:30:55,200 --> 00:30:59,360 Speaker 9: from rolls, races, the BMW's Mercedes, but Porsche's. It wasn't 546 00:30:59,440 --> 00:31:02,240 Speaker 9: religion because in the name of religion, Jesus Christ was 547 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 9: placed upon that cross. And the furrest thing about Christianity 548 00:31:05,480 --> 00:31:08,160 Speaker 9: is the fact that it's your choice. You can't work, 549 00:31:08,200 --> 00:31:11,520 Speaker 9: you can't earn. I knew that, and I understood it now, 550 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 9: and I want you to know this. The last thing 551 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,560 Speaker 9: I like to say is this next week I'll be 552 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,520 Speaker 9: inducting to the Hall of Fame. I'll get that big ring. 553 00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,040 Speaker 9: In fact, it's a bigger ring than I would have 554 00:31:21,080 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 9: got for the championship. But I'll tell you something about 555 00:31:24,440 --> 00:31:26,160 Speaker 9: all the wars, they all pale to the glory of 556 00:31:26,240 --> 00:31:29,400 Speaker 9: Christ and what He's done in my life. It's amazing 557 00:31:29,400 --> 00:31:30,960 Speaker 9: what He has done in my life. I wouldn't trade 558 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 9: my position. I wouldn't trade my position in Christ for 559 00:31:39,280 --> 00:31:42,880 Speaker 9: a thousand NBA Championships, for a thousand Hall of Fame rings, 560 00:31:43,280 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 9: or for one hundred billion dollars. There's nothing but the 561 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:47,800 Speaker 9: joy of Jesus Christ in your life. 562 00:31:48,080 --> 00:31:51,000 Speaker 2: A gentleman illness, it's left wild. 563 00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,200 Speaker 3: Thank you, and good night,