1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:04,000 Speaker 1: And given the voluntility of relievers in general, you make 2 00:00:04,040 --> 00:00:06,040 Speaker 1: this trade every day of the week, in my opinion. 3 00:00:06,320 --> 00:00:09,000 Speaker 1: For the thirty seventh tick in the draft. 4 00:00:14,720 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 2: Let's hit inside Scoup with FT senior insider Ken Rosenthal. 5 00:00:17,480 --> 00:00:20,599 Speaker 2: Happy Friday, Ken, And sometimes the headline just writes itself. 6 00:00:20,640 --> 00:00:22,759 Speaker 2: For the top of our segment, we'll go right to 7 00:00:22,800 --> 00:00:24,800 Speaker 2: the notes column released this morning in The Athletic. I 8 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:27,560 Speaker 2: advise everyone to check it out, but it starts with 9 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 2: why an Alex Bregman trade makes no sense for the 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:36,080 Speaker 2: Red Sox? Why Ken, It. 11 00:00:36,040 --> 00:00:38,880 Speaker 1: Actually makes no sense, period, And I'll go through it here. 12 00:00:38,920 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: There's been some talk about this various websites, just people 13 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:45,920 Speaker 1: kind of speculating about the possibility if the Red Sox 14 00:00:45,960 --> 00:00:50,320 Speaker 1: fall out trading Bregman. One, they're not falling out. They've 15 00:00:50,360 --> 00:00:52,800 Speaker 1: got a seven game winning streak going, they've holding or 16 00:00:52,800 --> 00:00:56,080 Speaker 1: they're currently holding the third wildcard spot. And yeah, they've 17 00:00:56,080 --> 00:00:58,640 Speaker 1: got a tough schedule coming out of the break, but 18 00:00:59,360 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: in the American League with so many teams kind of 19 00:01:02,320 --> 00:01:04,840 Speaker 1: in a mediocre place, I don't see them falling out, 20 00:01:04,880 --> 00:01:07,680 Speaker 1: even if they go say five and ten. The other 21 00:01:07,760 --> 00:01:11,320 Speaker 1: issue here is his contract, and as you guys know, 22 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,800 Speaker 1: it's a three year, one hundred and twenty million dollar deal. 23 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: This is the first year. He can opt out after 24 00:01:16,560 --> 00:01:19,000 Speaker 1: this year. He can opt out after next year. So 25 00:01:19,080 --> 00:01:21,960 Speaker 1: if you trade him to a team, they're going to 26 00:01:22,040 --> 00:01:25,360 Speaker 1: take on about thirteen million dollars in salary and they're 27 00:01:25,360 --> 00:01:29,320 Speaker 1: gonna think, Okay, that's okay if he opts out, because 28 00:01:29,319 --> 00:01:31,200 Speaker 1: if he opts out, we're not doe for that forty 29 00:01:31,240 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: million or maybe the other forty million on top of that, Well, 30 00:01:34,560 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 1: there's no guarantee that he is going to opt out. 31 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,960 Speaker 1: What if he blows out his knee or something else 32 00:01:40,040 --> 00:01:43,440 Speaker 1: happens from an injury perspective that keeps him out for 33 00:01:43,520 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 1: part of next year as well as the rest of 34 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: this year, then you don't want to be paying forty million. 35 00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:50,640 Speaker 1: And that's actually the Red Sox position right now, the 36 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: situation that they're in that could happen. Gregman's coming off 37 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:57,280 Speaker 1: the IL without a rehab assignment. I'm not predicting an 38 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,640 Speaker 1: injury or anything like that, but there is a non 39 00:01:59,720 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: zero telling that he does get hurt. So for all 40 00:02:03,840 --> 00:02:07,760 Speaker 1: those reasons, and the other reason being what is in 41 00:02:07,840 --> 00:02:10,680 Speaker 1: it for the Red Sox, they want Alan to their 42 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,280 Speaker 1: team they want to re sign him. So it just 43 00:02:14,320 --> 00:02:17,400 Speaker 1: doesn't seem to add up in any way at all. 44 00:02:17,919 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: And the other thing too, I'll keep betching other things. 45 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:24,080 Speaker 1: What are you getting back If you're sending thirteen million 46 00:02:24,120 --> 00:02:26,600 Speaker 1: along with Alex Bregman, you've got to pay that if 47 00:02:26,639 --> 00:02:28,440 Speaker 1: you're a team that's taking him, and even if you're 48 00:02:28,480 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: assuming he's going to opt out, you're gambling on that. Well, 49 00:02:32,280 --> 00:02:34,320 Speaker 1: a team taking on thirteen million at the deadline is 50 00:02:34,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: not going to give up much. If you want, and 51 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,520 Speaker 1: you're the Red Sox, you can contribute money and send 52 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: some money along, but then what are you doing. You're 53 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:45,520 Speaker 1: getting a better prospect package. They don't need any more prospects. 54 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 3: They're good. 55 00:02:47,120 --> 00:02:49,440 Speaker 1: So I just don't see the logic of this at all. 56 00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:51,400 Speaker 1: And I know it's the time of year where we 57 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: all speculate and we all kind of dream up ideas, 58 00:02:54,720 --> 00:02:58,480 Speaker 1: but this one to me seems like a distant dream 59 00:02:58,520 --> 00:02:58,960 Speaker 1: at best. 60 00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 3: If they were out of it. You look at that roster, 61 00:03:02,400 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 3: because I was just at Fenway. I just talked about 62 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 3: it yesterday. It's Trevor's story and Alex Bregman and a 63 00:03:09,440 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 3: bunch of kids from you know high school like it 64 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,359 Speaker 3: is a young team or inexperienced team like at Rome. 65 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,600 Speaker 3: Gonzalez is a little bit older, but not he's not ancient. 66 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 3: Do the team still look at that as like with 67 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:25,360 Speaker 3: the Red Sox still look at that as like, Hey, 68 00:03:25,400 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 3: this is a guy who's won a lot. He can 69 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 3: teach our young guys how to win. And if that's 70 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 3: the case, does that increase his opportunity to maybe re 71 00:03:34,960 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 3: up or guarantee more of that contract this offseason? Not 72 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,520 Speaker 3: saying before free agency. I'm not saying he's gonna skip 73 00:03:41,520 --> 00:03:43,880 Speaker 3: free agency, but the Red Sox will be like, hey, 74 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:48,160 Speaker 3: your value is huge here because of this the mentoring part. 75 00:03:49,000 --> 00:03:50,720 Speaker 1: Eric. That's why they signed him in the first place. 76 00:03:51,040 --> 00:03:53,320 Speaker 1: They knew they had these kids coming and they wanted 77 00:03:53,320 --> 00:03:56,640 Speaker 1: Bregman to serve in that leadership role. And we have 78 00:03:56,680 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: another story on The Athletic Today by Jen McCaffrey who 79 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:02,720 Speaker 1: covers the Red soixe for us about just the impact 80 00:04:03,200 --> 00:04:07,440 Speaker 1: Gregman has made on players as individuals and as a collective. 81 00:04:07,760 --> 00:04:10,760 Speaker 1: This guy is all about baseball all the time. He 82 00:04:10,880 --> 00:04:13,920 Speaker 1: sees things on the field, he imparts that wisdom to 83 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:18,120 Speaker 1: his teammates. So yes, they're going to want to keep him, 84 00:04:18,240 --> 00:04:19,800 Speaker 1: and they're going to want to keep him for just 85 00:04:19,839 --> 00:04:23,840 Speaker 1: the reasons you stated. They don't have many established veterans 86 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:26,920 Speaker 1: on their team, and not only is he an established veteran, 87 00:04:26,960 --> 00:04:30,039 Speaker 1: he brings that extra intangible, that knowledge of the game, 88 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:33,880 Speaker 1: that savviness that frankly is in short supply today. So 89 00:04:34,720 --> 00:04:37,839 Speaker 1: I don't know how it gets done, if it gets done, 90 00:04:38,279 --> 00:04:40,920 Speaker 1: when it gets done, but it's something the Red Sox 91 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,200 Speaker 1: certainly are going to pursue. 92 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:45,720 Speaker 4: I want to skip to the Yankees here a little bit. 93 00:04:46,040 --> 00:04:52,880 Speaker 4: Excuse me, third base. I always thought Josh Chisholm should 94 00:04:52,920 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 4: have been a second basement at the end of the day. 95 00:04:54,880 --> 00:04:58,240 Speaker 4: I mean that was my opinion. Sorry, got something stuck 96 00:04:58,279 --> 00:04:58,640 Speaker 4: in my bad. 97 00:05:00,240 --> 00:05:02,000 Speaker 2: You want to make a call to the bullpen. I'm here, 98 00:05:02,000 --> 00:05:04,680 Speaker 2: I'm Scott right, thank you, thank you. Okay, Ken, I 99 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: know what he was going to ask about. The Yankees, 100 00:05:06,279 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: Duke now currently have a hole at third base, and 101 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:11,640 Speaker 2: my friend who used to play the position, wants to 102 00:05:11,640 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 2: know who you think they could scoop up around the 103 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:17,000 Speaker 2: trade deadline to fill now a very vacant third base 104 00:05:17,040 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 2: hole now that Chazz is back to second, how'd I 105 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:22,719 Speaker 2: do he did great, that's good. He clear his throat. 106 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:27,960 Speaker 1: I nominate Todd Frasier, but no, Curiously, I talked about 107 00:05:27,960 --> 00:05:29,480 Speaker 1: this a little bit in the notes Calm as well. 108 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:32,719 Speaker 1: So with DJ Lemayhew, they just released him and they 109 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:37,159 Speaker 1: owe him twenty two million dollars still. To me, that 110 00:05:37,200 --> 00:05:39,840 Speaker 1: would sort of preclude them getting a guy who has 111 00:05:39,880 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: a lot of money left on his deal. They're gonna 112 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:45,880 Speaker 1: need to address other areas as well, pitching, starting in relief. 113 00:05:46,320 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: So when you talk about Noan Ornado who has plenty 114 00:05:49,560 --> 00:05:51,560 Speaker 1: of money left on his deal, when you're talking about 115 00:05:51,600 --> 00:05:53,640 Speaker 1: Ryan McMahon, who has a couple of years left on 116 00:05:53,720 --> 00:05:56,479 Speaker 1: his deal, that doesn't make as much sense to me 117 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 1: from the Yankees' perspective as a guy like Ajohano sare As, 118 00:06:00,520 --> 00:06:03,080 Speaker 1: who is a potential free agent. He would be owed 119 00:06:03,160 --> 00:06:05,680 Speaker 1: about five million at the deadline, if I'm not mistaken, 120 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 1: And it just seems to me, when you've got so 121 00:06:08,400 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 1: many different holes to fill in future commitments as well, 122 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:14,080 Speaker 1: that you don't want to be tying it up in 123 00:06:14,560 --> 00:06:17,240 Speaker 1: guys who have money coming. I might be wrong about that. 124 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:19,560 Speaker 1: Maybe the Yankees just say the heck with it, but 125 00:06:20,400 --> 00:06:22,719 Speaker 1: it just seems to me a guy likes Suarez doesn't 126 00:06:22,800 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: have to be him, but someone who's a potential free 127 00:06:24,839 --> 00:06:27,000 Speaker 1: agent that would be a better fit. 128 00:06:28,400 --> 00:06:32,680 Speaker 3: How about ca Brian Hayes. And I say that, and 129 00:06:32,760 --> 00:06:34,960 Speaker 3: I get it, people are gonna be like, you're an idiot. 130 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,559 Speaker 3: We don't want k Brian Hayes. But so much of 131 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:42,320 Speaker 3: what was talked about the Yankees was defense. He would 132 00:06:42,320 --> 00:06:45,800 Speaker 3: add that defense. He would lock down the number nine 133 00:06:45,880 --> 00:06:48,360 Speaker 3: spot in the lineup. I get that. Maybe he has 134 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:52,160 Speaker 3: an uptick when he's in a winning situation. Is that 135 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 3: a possibility? I get it, though it's the same as 136 00:06:54,200 --> 00:06:57,279 Speaker 3: what you're saying. Already has a contract, but it's not 137 00:06:57,400 --> 00:06:58,120 Speaker 3: that big. 138 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,480 Speaker 1: Right his deal is I'm not sure exactly if the 139 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: numbers are eric, but it's not as lucrative as the others, 140 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: if I'm not mistaken. And Cabrian Hayes, yes, he would 141 00:07:08,720 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: give something to the Yankees that they badly need, and 142 00:07:11,040 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: that's defensive improvement. They have been better defensively this year 143 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,320 Speaker 1: and they'll be better now with Jazz at second. They 144 00:07:18,880 --> 00:07:20,720 Speaker 1: had him out of position, let's face it, and he 145 00:07:20,840 --> 00:07:23,400 Speaker 1: wasn't bad at third base, but DJ was at second. 146 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: DJ was not as mobile as he once was, so 147 00:07:26,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: it wasn't the ideal defensive scenario. Cabrian Hayes does fit 148 00:07:30,600 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: from that perspective, and I would expect that if he 149 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,240 Speaker 1: got out of Pittsburgh he'd be a better offensive player. 150 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: So dealing with the Pirates not always easy. And I'm 151 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: not sure what they'd be looking for from the Yankees 152 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: because what they need Pittsburgh is a group of young 153 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 1: hitters to support the young pitching that they have. Can 154 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,119 Speaker 1: the Yankees provide that? I don't know. You're not getting 155 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:57,160 Speaker 1: Jason Domingez for Cabrian Hayes. They don't have many other 156 00:07:57,320 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: young hitters. I guess Spencer Jones would be one. He's 157 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:03,360 Speaker 1: in the minors. He's doing okay. But I don't know 158 00:08:03,400 --> 00:08:05,400 Speaker 1: that you do that if you're the Yankees either, So 159 00:08:05,480 --> 00:08:07,800 Speaker 1: that to me would be more of the issue finding 160 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:08,360 Speaker 1: the match. 161 00:08:09,840 --> 00:08:11,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Kene, in my mind, I mean I'm the more 162 00:08:11,640 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 2: cynical one. Especially with the Pirates. They might be saying, hey, 163 00:08:14,520 --> 00:08:16,600 Speaker 2: we're not making as much money as we thought this year, 164 00:08:16,680 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 2: let's clear some books. And we've now had two years 165 00:08:19,880 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 2: in a row of key Brian Hayes not hitting up 166 00:08:22,200 --> 00:08:24,960 Speaker 2: to par. Where it might change with the Yanks. I 167 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,440 Speaker 2: looked up the contract for you, so it was seven 168 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,960 Speaker 2: years eighty mili and Kratz did mention it was front loaded, 169 00:08:31,000 --> 00:08:32,800 Speaker 2: which is true. He mentioned that, I think a day 170 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:35,760 Speaker 2: or two ago. So this year he's making seven twenty 171 00:08:35,800 --> 00:08:38,720 Speaker 2: twenty six, he's making seven, twenty seven, he's making seven 172 00:08:38,800 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 2: twenty eight, eight twenty nine, he's making eight. And then 173 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,520 Speaker 2: there's a club option, not at all prohibited. 174 00:08:44,880 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: That's not sixty million, do it, Ryan McMahon or whatever 175 00:08:48,240 --> 00:08:50,720 Speaker 1: Arnatto is doing in like the thirties, if I'm not mistaken. 176 00:08:50,800 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: So that's a different deal entirely. In fact, eight seven 177 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 1: eight million for a player, it's almost utility player money. 178 00:08:56,200 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: Not quite that, but certainly reasonable. So the money, I 179 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:03,520 Speaker 1: don't know that would stop the Yankees. The quality of 180 00:09:03,559 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: the player might, and the offense is a question. And 181 00:09:07,080 --> 00:09:10,800 Speaker 1: let's face it, they don't have to have a bopper 182 00:09:10,840 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: at third base, but they want a competent offensive player, 183 00:09:13,640 --> 00:09:17,480 Speaker 1: and maybe with Cabrian Hayese, you decide, okay, the total package, 184 00:09:17,520 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: we get a really really good defensive player, a goal 185 00:09:21,520 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 1: glove type third baseman, and we'll settle for less offensively. 186 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:28,199 Speaker 1: That's kind of how they see Volpi right now, quite frankly, 187 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: and I don't know how many of those guys you want, 188 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: but it's an interesting thought. 189 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:33,120 Speaker 2: For sure. 190 00:09:34,640 --> 00:09:38,920 Speaker 4: The d Backs are already out without Jordan Montgomery and 191 00:09:39,000 --> 00:09:41,800 Speaker 4: Cormyn Burns. If they're looking to sell, or there are 192 00:09:41,800 --> 00:09:45,440 Speaker 4: a couple guys that are not likely to go just 193 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,439 Speaker 4: because of their pitching depth. What do you think about 194 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 4: that situation during the trade deadline. 195 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:52,839 Speaker 1: They have a couple of potential free agents who are 196 00:09:52,880 --> 00:09:55,920 Speaker 1: going to attract attention if the Diamondbacks want to move, 197 00:09:56,440 --> 00:10:00,240 Speaker 1: and that's still an open question. They have all of 198 00:10:00,280 --> 00:10:03,800 Speaker 1: these bullpen injuries, all of these rotation injuries. It seems 199 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,120 Speaker 1: like it's a Star Cross season for them and it's 200 00:10:06,120 --> 00:10:07,839 Speaker 1: not going to go the way they wanted to go. 201 00:10:08,320 --> 00:10:11,600 Speaker 1: But Mike Key's in their general managers and pretty adamant 202 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,520 Speaker 1: about saying I want to buy, I do not want 203 00:10:14,520 --> 00:10:17,520 Speaker 1: to sell. They have never rebuilt under Hazen. It's just 204 00:10:17,600 --> 00:10:21,719 Speaker 1: not something he is comfortable doing. So if they end 205 00:10:21,800 --> 00:10:24,199 Speaker 1: up trading one of the starters, and it would be one, 206 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: from what I understand, they would not trade both because 207 00:10:26,400 --> 00:10:28,640 Speaker 1: then they'd have a difficult time getting through the season. 208 00:10:29,400 --> 00:10:32,679 Speaker 1: Gallen better in his last two starts probably would get 209 00:10:32,720 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: more attention than Kelly, who is older thirty six. Granted 210 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 1: it's a rental and he's a very consistent pitcher, but 211 00:10:39,360 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: Gallon is the sexier name in that case. Yes, he'd 212 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:46,240 Speaker 1: be in high demand, and rightly so. He's Zach Gallan. 213 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,000 Speaker 1: He's been a cy young finalist Meryl Kelly, though, is 214 00:10:49,040 --> 00:10:51,439 Speaker 1: interesting and I didn't know this until somebody pointed it 215 00:10:51,480 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: out to me yesterday. He's thirty six and in his 216 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: last start against the Padres he threw four of the 217 00:10:57,000 --> 00:11:01,559 Speaker 1: five hardest pitches of his career. So this stuff is intact, 218 00:11:01,800 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: maybe even ticking upward even as he gets older. 219 00:11:06,200 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 2: Wow. All right, let's finish with this topic. The Rays 220 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: in the Ools actually did make a real trade for 221 00:11:12,559 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 2: a player that could be a contributor in a playoff 222 00:11:15,080 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 2: game in a high leverage spot. Let's wipe away what 223 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:20,199 Speaker 2: happened for Brian Baker in his first start of hours 224 00:11:20,200 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: into finding out that he ended up with a new team. 225 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:24,600 Speaker 2: I want to get your thoughts here. I know you 226 00:11:24,679 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: touched on it on fair Territory yesterday, but then in 227 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,640 Speaker 2: your notes, Calum, it sounds like you learned a little 228 00:11:28,640 --> 00:11:31,480 Speaker 2: bit more about how this went down, why it was 229 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,400 Speaker 2: this particular pick, and why the Rays were so interested 230 00:11:34,840 --> 00:11:36,440 Speaker 2: in Brian Baker. I'm going to give you one more 231 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:38,440 Speaker 2: layer to add ken. I don't know if you caught 232 00:11:38,480 --> 00:11:41,280 Speaker 2: the comments that we just talked about with Michaelias saying, yeah, 233 00:11:41,320 --> 00:11:42,920 Speaker 2: we weren't going to trade him, but if you temp 234 00:11:43,000 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 2: me with a pick, I'm in. 235 00:11:45,880 --> 00:11:49,600 Speaker 1: Well, from Michael Elias's perspective, you've got a reliever with 236 00:11:49,720 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 1: three additional years of control. He is a good reliever. 237 00:11:53,200 --> 00:11:55,760 Speaker 1: I don't know that he's a great reliever, and given 238 00:11:55,800 --> 00:11:59,480 Speaker 1: the volatility of relievers in general, you make this trade 239 00:11:59,520 --> 00:12:02,360 Speaker 1: every day week. In my opinion, for the thirty seventh 240 00:12:02,400 --> 00:12:06,439 Speaker 1: pick in the draft gives the Orioles ticks nineteen thirty, 241 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:10,000 Speaker 1: thirty one, and thirty seven, and the Rays had two 242 00:12:10,160 --> 00:12:13,920 Speaker 1: competitive balance A round picks thirty seven and forty two. 243 00:12:14,600 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 1: They couldn't trade forty two because while these picks are 244 00:12:17,240 --> 00:12:20,080 Speaker 1: the only ones that can be traded the competitive balance picks, 245 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:22,960 Speaker 1: that one already had been traded. They had acquired it 246 00:12:23,000 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 1: in the Jeffrey Springs trade, so that one was out. 247 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:28,800 Speaker 1: Thirty seven was the one they had, and from the 248 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:32,440 Speaker 1: race perspective, it's so difficult to make a deal this 249 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 1: time of year. Teams are getting ready for the draft. 250 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: They're not really ready to declare themselves sellers buyers. It's 251 00:12:39,120 --> 00:12:42,079 Speaker 1: just too early. The deadline's still nineteen twenty days away. 252 00:12:42,840 --> 00:12:44,960 Speaker 1: The Rays wanted to get something done. Their bullpen has 253 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:47,840 Speaker 1: been reeling over the last two weeks or so, so 254 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: to get something done, they had to part with that pick. 255 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:54,480 Speaker 1: And in their minds, Baker is a quality guy. He's 256 00:12:54,559 --> 00:12:57,600 Speaker 1: kind of platoon neutral going forward in their heads, and 257 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,559 Speaker 1: they see him as someone that they can keep for 258 00:12:59,600 --> 00:13:01,520 Speaker 1: a couple. They weren't going to give the pick up 259 00:13:01,600 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: for a rental, but with three years of control through arbitration, 260 00:13:05,679 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 1: this was something that appealed to them. 261 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:11,800 Speaker 2: Okay, do you think that the Rays will continue to 262 00:13:11,840 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: be active like this? Ken last one here on the Rays? 263 00:13:14,720 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 2: Do you think that they're they're going to push chips in. 264 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:18,839 Speaker 2: I know you talked yesterday about how they were very 265 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:23,079 Speaker 2: definitive last year selling pieces, but it seems very clear 266 00:13:23,080 --> 00:13:25,320 Speaker 2: that the Rays feel like they have something this year 267 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 2: and we'd all like to see that ALCS in Miami, right, 268 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:29,800 Speaker 2: They had. 269 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:33,320 Speaker 1: Every reason to sell last year, Scott, and they did sell. 270 00:13:33,520 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 1: They traded nine players, got sixteen back, most of them 271 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,400 Speaker 1: were minor league prospects, and this year is an entirely 272 00:13:40,440 --> 00:13:43,680 Speaker 1: different competitive scenario. They're in this thing, they're in it 273 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,720 Speaker 1: pretty well, and until this recent slide they were looking 274 00:13:47,920 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: really good. And they've got Shane McClanahan coming back, so 275 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:54,120 Speaker 1: they can do some buy sell things. Zach Lettel is 276 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 1: a guy that for me, doesn't get enough attention. He's 277 00:13:57,280 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 1: a very consistent starting pitcher. He's not sexy, doesn't throw 278 00:14:00,840 --> 00:14:03,200 Speaker 1: a million miles an hour, but he gets the job done. 279 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:06,280 Speaker 1: The race could possibly flip in to get something else 280 00:14:06,320 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: that they need. I do expect they're gonna add maybe 281 00:14:09,160 --> 00:14:12,240 Speaker 1: even more to their bullpen. Yes, they will be active, 282 00:14:12,280 --> 00:14:14,000 Speaker 1: they will be trying to do some things. There's no 283 00:14:14,120 --> 00:14:16,760 Speaker 1: question in my mind. When they are good. The Blue 284 00:14:16,840 --> 00:14:21,080 Speaker 1: Jays are like this too much different financial circumstances, of course, 285 00:14:21,160 --> 00:14:24,200 Speaker 1: but when these teams are good, they generally go for it, 286 00:14:24,240 --> 00:14:25,920 Speaker 1: and I expect the Rays will do that. 287 00:14:26,800 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 2: If Shane McClanahan comes back and he's anything like Shane McClanahan, 288 00:14:30,360 --> 00:14:32,600 Speaker 2: I mean, the race could be a problem. I love it. 289 00:14:32,680 --> 00:14:34,600 Speaker 2: I'm into it. Ken, thank you. We'll see you in 290 00:14:34,640 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 2: a few days. 291 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 1: Thanks Scott, yep sounds good. 292 00:14:37,800 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Safe travels Ken Rosenthal Fair Territory twice a week, 293 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: Mondays and Thursdays. Thursdays are live with Alana Rizzo and 294 00:14:45,280 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 2: Mondays now are live as well with Ken riding solo, 295 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 2: ready to answer all of your questions about the trade deadline, 296 00:14:52,120 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 2: and Ken will join us. I think we'll see him 297 00:14:56,240 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: on Tuesday for a little stop by at the Tourist 298 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:01,600 Speaker 2: Community Corner, So if you'd like to join us again 299 00:15:01,640 --> 00:15:03,640 Speaker 2: if you missed it earlier, we're going to be live 300 00:15:03,640 --> 00:15:05,960 Speaker 2: there Monday and Tuesday. Its right next to the ballpark, 301 00:15:06,000 --> 00:15:08,200 Speaker 2: so if you're hanging around the area, come kick it 302 00:15:08,240 --> 00:15:10,720 Speaker 2: with us. And the little nineties style setup that they have. 303 00:15:11,200 --> 00:15:16,120 Speaker 2: There's photo opportunities, meet and greet, autographs, retro jersey giveaways. 304 00:15:17,120 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 2: There's obviously music flowing. Besides when we have the show 305 00:15:19,960 --> 00:15:23,560 Speaker 2: going and then scheduled to join the party our David Justice, 306 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:26,160 Speaker 2: Andrew Jones, Fred McGriff, Chipper Jones. We're talking to some 307 00:15:26,200 --> 00:15:30,840 Speaker 2: current players about potentially stopping by and some former players 308 00:15:30,880 --> 00:15:33,400 Speaker 2: plus Ken. I have the invite out to John Smolt, 309 00:15:33,400 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: so it's gonna be awesome stop by Out of the 310 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,160 Speaker 2: Park Baseball twenty six, best simulation baseball game on the 311 00:15:40,200 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: market every single year, is going to help us with 312 00:15:43,640 --> 00:15:47,000 Speaker 2: second half predictions. So let's go through the board. We're 313 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 2: going to start with the second half prediction playoff teams 314 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 2: and then eventually we'll get to what they think is 315 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:54,880 Speaker 2: going to happen in the playoffs. Let's get your thoughts 316 00:15:54,880 --> 00:15:58,600 Speaker 2: on these ale Division winners. They have the Tigers, the Yankees, 317 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 2: and the Ashers. Now, keep in mind they were able 318 00:16:00,560 --> 00:16:04,080 Speaker 2: to spit out simulations with what is currently happening, so 319 00:16:04,120 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: they know everything. They know the records, they know who's hurt, 320 00:16:07,480 --> 00:16:10,160 Speaker 2: they know who's thriving. That gives you a lot more 321 00:16:10,200 --> 00:16:12,840 Speaker 2: information than when you're doing it before the season starts, right, 322 00:16:13,000 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: So that's why we're doing a little reload here. N 323 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 2: L Division winners Dodgers, Cubs, and they have the Mets 324 00:16:20,200 --> 00:16:22,920 Speaker 2: taken the East in the wild card seats. They have 325 00:16:23,000 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 2: the Blue Jays, the Mariners and the Rays getting in. 326 00:16:26,160 --> 00:16:28,400 Speaker 2: On the National League side, they have the Phillies, the 327 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 2: Brewers and the Giants getting in. Anything stand out one 328 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,000 Speaker 2: way or another for you, Todd Father. A lot of 329 00:16:35,000 --> 00:16:36,920 Speaker 2: the teams that are playing well right now, they have 330 00:16:37,040 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 2: them sticking in that spot. It looks like the Padres 331 00:16:40,000 --> 00:16:43,800 Speaker 2: are missing from a playoff spot in the National League. 332 00:16:44,120 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 2: Who's missing in the American League obviously no, oh yeah, 333 00:16:47,240 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 2: no Cardinals in the n NL and Krats, no Red 334 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:52,960 Speaker 2: Sox in the AL. 335 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:54,800 Speaker 3: They're not a good team. 336 00:16:56,120 --> 00:16:57,840 Speaker 4: I don't know. I still think they got a shot. 337 00:16:58,040 --> 00:17:00,440 Speaker 4: I would say the Mets. I think the at least 338 00:17:00,440 --> 00:17:03,920 Speaker 4: find a way to win that division. In my opinion, 339 00:17:04,000 --> 00:17:08,440 Speaker 4: humble opinion, the Mets have been teetering a little bit here. 340 00:17:08,440 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 4: You know, they'll go through some spur, just like the 341 00:17:10,200 --> 00:17:12,760 Speaker 4: Yankees did. And I don't know why I always bring 342 00:17:12,800 --> 00:17:14,439 Speaker 4: the Yankees up. They're both the teams and New York 343 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 4: people talk about. But they're a good team. But they 344 00:17:19,880 --> 00:17:22,160 Speaker 4: need to finish this whole season off. And I think 345 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:24,440 Speaker 4: the Phillies find a way to win that division and 346 00:17:24,480 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 4: the Mets get in and wildcard. 347 00:17:25,880 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 2: Actually real quick Kratz. So they also posted the exact 348 00:17:28,960 --> 00:17:31,600 Speaker 2: win totals because it's a simulation. They had the Mets 349 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:35,639 Speaker 2: and Phillies both with ninety two wins, and that the 350 00:17:35,680 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: Mets took the season series and that's why they get 351 00:17:38,040 --> 00:17:40,560 Speaker 2: the division, while the Phillies end up with a wild 352 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:44,000 Speaker 2: card team with the least wins to crack the postseason. 353 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:46,960 Speaker 2: They've got the Rays with eighty four, Mariners with eighty seven, 354 00:17:47,080 --> 00:17:50,120 Speaker 2: blue Jays with eighty eight. They have the Tigers leading 355 00:17:50,200 --> 00:17:52,880 Speaker 2: the American League with ninety seven wins, the Dodgers leading 356 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:55,639 Speaker 2: all Baseball with ninety eight wins. They have the Cubs 357 00:17:55,640 --> 00:17:59,400 Speaker 2: finishing with ninety six wins, and then the Brewers at 358 00:17:59,440 --> 00:18:03,000 Speaker 2: eighty six. The Giants sneaking into the playoffs with eighty 359 00:18:03,040 --> 00:18:05,720 Speaker 2: five dubs. 360 00:18:06,080 --> 00:18:08,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I'm surprised it doesn't have the Cardinals. 361 00:18:08,480 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 3: Just I guess they're not believing in the fact that 362 00:18:11,160 --> 00:18:14,679 Speaker 3: their team leader in home runs is now at twelve 363 00:18:15,080 --> 00:18:18,560 Speaker 3: Wilson Contrere. So you go, eh, maybe they're not believing 364 00:18:18,600 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 3: in that some of this is some run differential things 365 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 3: that's cooked up. I think it's interesting that they don't 366 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 3: believe in, you know, what the Blue Jays are doing. 367 00:18:28,720 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 3: They don't believe in the fact that the Blue Jays 368 00:18:30,800 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 3: have two game lead like it's a and some teams 369 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:41,639 Speaker 3: like bad underbelly of their teams are showing. And I 370 00:18:41,680 --> 00:18:47,960 Speaker 3: think I would love to see ots otp's prediction. Maybe 371 00:18:48,080 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 3: August third too, after some teams add and some teams 372 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:54,840 Speaker 3: don't add, and see where that puts their roster strength. 373 00:18:55,480 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: We can make that happen. That's actually a good idea. 374 00:18:58,000 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 2: Put it in the simulation after we know what the 375 00:18:59,840 --> 00:19:02,760 Speaker 2: right look like, because you can't really change much after 376 00:19:02,800 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 2: the trade deadline. We used to have the basically two 377 00:19:04,920 --> 00:19:08,119 Speaker 2: trade deadlines, and now there's just the one. Okay, then 378 00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:13,200 Speaker 2: let's get to the playoff predictions that they have put together. 379 00:19:13,280 --> 00:19:16,720 Speaker 2: Here they have the AL Wildcard Series with the Astros 380 00:19:16,760 --> 00:19:19,879 Speaker 2: taking down the Rays and the Mariners beating up the 381 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,760 Speaker 2: Blue Jays. In the National League Wildcard Series, they have 382 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 2: the Mets advancing past the Giants and the Phillies advancing 383 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:30,080 Speaker 2: past the Milwaukee Brewers. Keep in mind, when we say wildcard, 384 00:19:30,200 --> 00:19:32,280 Speaker 2: two teams get the buye and then one team that's 385 00:19:32,320 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 2: a division winner still has to play in the Wildcard series. 386 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,760 Speaker 2: Ale Division Series, they have the Tigers beating the Mariners 387 00:19:38,840 --> 00:19:41,720 Speaker 2: and the Astros taking down the Yankees. On the National 388 00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 2: League side of the bracket, the Dodgers beat the Phillies, 389 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:48,000 Speaker 2: the Cubs beat the Mets. So your final four as 390 00:19:48,040 --> 00:19:51,720 Speaker 2: of now, according to their simulation the Tigers meeting up 391 00:19:51,760 --> 00:19:55,159 Speaker 2: with the Astros in the ALCS, the Dodgers taking on 392 00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:59,960 Speaker 2: the Cubs in the NLCS, and they have Tigers Dodgers 393 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,959 Speaker 2: World Series with we could show the winner and then 394 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 2: get thoughts after that the winner of the World Series 395 00:20:08,240 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty five as a team that will not 396 00:20:13,160 --> 00:20:16,879 Speaker 2: be back to back champs of the Dodgers getting taken 397 00:20:16,920 --> 00:20:19,119 Speaker 2: down by the Tigers, what do you think of the 398 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,840 Speaker 2: whole playoff bracket they put together? It's early, but fun 399 00:20:22,880 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 2: to do the exercise. 400 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,639 Speaker 4: You want to go first or may. 401 00:20:28,160 --> 00:20:30,199 Speaker 3: I would just say that Dodgers have a lot of 402 00:20:30,240 --> 00:20:34,760 Speaker 3: work to do. Oh and I say that because there's 403 00:20:34,800 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 3: a lot of season to go right now, and I 404 00:20:37,480 --> 00:20:39,280 Speaker 3: get it. They're losing right now, so it's kind of 405 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,760 Speaker 3: forefront of our mind. They have a lot of work 406 00:20:41,760 --> 00:20:43,720 Speaker 3: to do in the sense of how are they going 407 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 3: to get their starting pitching innings in to then keep 408 00:20:48,840 --> 00:20:53,960 Speaker 3: what essentially won the playoffs for him last year healthy 409 00:20:54,359 --> 00:20:57,560 Speaker 3: their bullpen. They need to get their bullpen healthy. They 410 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 3: can't do that right now when you're starting pitching, he's 411 00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 3: going four or five innings, and it's the reason they're 412 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,440 Speaker 3: losing is they're not scoring runs right now, this team 413 00:21:06,480 --> 00:21:08,400 Speaker 3: is going to score runs. Look, you go through ups 414 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 3: and downs offensively. They need to figure out to win 415 00:21:12,280 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 3: the World Series. Not to make the playoffs or win 416 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,679 Speaker 3: a division, but to win the World Series. They need 417 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:21,200 Speaker 3: to figure out how to get their bullpen healthy. Because 418 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:24,959 Speaker 3: right now, Tanner Scott's showing you that he is you know, 419 00:21:25,000 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 3: he's hittable's he's given a few few games up. But 420 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,479 Speaker 3: to me, when you slide him back into you know, 421 00:21:31,800 --> 00:21:35,119 Speaker 3: three to four times a week instead of needing him 422 00:21:35,160 --> 00:21:36,840 Speaker 3: in the eighth and now he's going out for the 423 00:21:36,880 --> 00:21:39,880 Speaker 3: eighth and ninth or meeting him in jams like give 424 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,440 Speaker 3: him a clean in and give him situations to be 425 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: able to close the game down. That's how this team wins. 426 00:21:46,200 --> 00:21:47,959 Speaker 3: And I just figure, I just think they have they 427 00:21:47,960 --> 00:21:49,760 Speaker 3: have some work to do right now to be able 428 00:21:49,760 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 3: to make it through the National League, which is the 429 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:56,360 Speaker 3: best league in baseball. And I think the Cubs are 430 00:21:56,400 --> 00:21:58,840 Speaker 3: going to give a lot of teams a lot of problems. 431 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:01,679 Speaker 2: Ronnie said in the chat, how are the Padres not 432 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:05,200 Speaker 2: in the playoffs? I would agree there, I think the 433 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:08,159 Speaker 2: Padres are gonna get in agreed. 434 00:22:08,720 --> 00:22:11,920 Speaker 3: Who do you think is better right now, Padres entire 435 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: team or the Giants entire team. Padre who has a 436 00:22:18,840 --> 00:22:21,879 Speaker 3: better lineup? Padres? Who has a better pitching staff? 437 00:22:24,040 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 2: It's close, probably, I mean you don't think it's close. 438 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,440 Speaker 2: Do you think the Giants are much better pitching staff. 439 00:22:30,720 --> 00:22:33,240 Speaker 3: Top to bottom? I think they are a better pitching staff. 440 00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 2: Okay? Who? 441 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,880 Speaker 3: Like to me, the Padres best starter right now is. 442 00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 2: Nick Pivetta. 443 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,800 Speaker 3: And what's his era right now? 444 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:48,720 Speaker 2: Probably two six? 445 00:22:49,440 --> 00:22:52,160 Speaker 3: Okay, Then who do you got Dylan Sees? 446 00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:56,200 Speaker 2: Yeah? Who? I still really like? I know he had 447 00:22:56,200 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 2: a rocky start. 448 00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:03,639 Speaker 3: It doesn't seem like it doesn't seem like his fastball 449 00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:07,240 Speaker 3: has enough to finish hitters right now, could it? Does 450 00:23:07,240 --> 00:23:10,440 Speaker 3: he need like an upticking adrenaline in the playoffs? Absolutely? 451 00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 3: This dude's already thrown in the playoffs and he was 452 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:17,639 Speaker 3: nasty when they went the blackout in Chicago. Like to me, 453 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:24,440 Speaker 3: their season is going to be dictated on what happens 454 00:23:25,440 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 3: with Dylan Cees. Pavetta's shown me that he can throw. 455 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,720 Speaker 3: He can throw like he is other years. This is 456 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:34,520 Speaker 3: when he started to fade. He almost looked like he 457 00:23:34,560 --> 00:23:37,960 Speaker 3: got tired. He's been thrown like he has kept that consistent. 458 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:41,520 Speaker 3: He's been their most consistent starter. Dylan Ceze good start, 459 00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 3: couple bad starts, good start, couple of bad starts. I 460 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,800 Speaker 3: think the season hinges on Dylan Cease because that lineup 461 00:23:48,160 --> 00:23:50,400 Speaker 3: they can bang, they can go get it too, and 462 00:23:50,800 --> 00:23:54,560 Speaker 3: in the infield, in the outfield, great defense. They'll they'll 463 00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:56,639 Speaker 3: get a left fielder, maybe he'll take one of the 464 00:23:56,640 --> 00:23:58,280 Speaker 3: Phillies left fielders. 465 00:23:58,160 --> 00:24:00,239 Speaker 2: And they've got a good bullpen. I mean as far 466 00:24:00,280 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 2: as at the back Adam Morihane or Strata. That's a 467 00:24:04,520 --> 00:24:06,959 Speaker 2: good back end of the bullpen in my mind, and 468 00:24:07,000 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 2: that's what made them so dangerous last year and almost 469 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:13,480 Speaker 2: slaying the Dodgers. Darvish's back. We'll see how he does 470 00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,480 Speaker 2: over time here, but hey, I mean, at least he 471 00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:17,360 Speaker 2: only gets to pitch half a season. That might be 472 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 2: better for someone like him at his age of I 473 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,680 Speaker 2: think thirty eight years old. Randy Vasquez is having the 474 00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:25,359 Speaker 2: year of his life and also made some tweaks that 475 00:24:25,480 --> 00:24:27,720 Speaker 2: puts him as a nice dings eater in the back 476 00:24:27,800 --> 00:24:29,880 Speaker 2: end of the rotation. A lot of it's gonna hinge 477 00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:31,919 Speaker 2: on Michael King. I don't know what the latest update 478 00:24:32,000 --> 00:24:33,760 Speaker 2: is with him, Kratz. But if they can get him 479 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:36,520 Speaker 2: back and right and then wait, you're sleeping on the 480 00:24:36,560 --> 00:24:40,119 Speaker 2: biggest part of all of this. For the Padres, aj 481 00:24:40,200 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 2: Preller's not gonna sit around. No, he's gonna make one 482 00:24:43,040 --> 00:24:46,040 Speaker 2: or two moves. He always does, and I gotta give 483 00:24:46,119 --> 00:24:48,160 Speaker 2: him credit for that. I mean, last year he almost 484 00:24:48,200 --> 00:24:50,720 Speaker 2: made enough moves to win them a World Series. He 485 00:24:50,800 --> 00:24:53,640 Speaker 2: built a super bullpen. Last year they just couldn't score. 486 00:24:53,680 --> 00:24:56,000 Speaker 2: They choked in the playoffs, they were distracted or something. 487 00:24:56,480 --> 00:24:59,080 Speaker 2: But I still like that team. I think that's a 488 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: playoff team in my mind, mind I disagree with you, Kratz. 489 00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:03,199 Speaker 2: I like the Cardinals. I don't think they make it 490 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 2: to the playoffs. So for their wild card teams, I 491 00:25:06,160 --> 00:25:08,280 Speaker 2: think that's one of the most interesting discussions is who 492 00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 2: are the NL wild card teams? That the Braves falling 493 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,480 Speaker 2: out of the East makes it a little easier to 494 00:25:14,520 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 2: decipher because you've got the Mets and the Phillies. They're 495 00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 2: going to get in, right, we all agree with that. 496 00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:19,639 Speaker 2: We all agree that the Cubs are going to get in. 497 00:25:20,000 --> 00:25:22,280 Speaker 2: We all agree that the Dodgers are going to get in. Okay, 498 00:25:22,520 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 2: after that is where things are interesting they've got You've 499 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:30,280 Speaker 2: got two spots, and you've got the Brewers, You've got 500 00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 2: the Padres, you've got the Giants, you can technically call 501 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks and the Reds. So five teams for those 502 00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:37,880 Speaker 2: two spots. 503 00:25:39,640 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 4: I think if this well, I don't think the Cubs 504 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:44,800 Speaker 4: beat the Mets. That's the only thing. 505 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:46,240 Speaker 2: I just so in the playoff part. 506 00:25:47,160 --> 00:25:52,640 Speaker 4: But I Diamondbacks, I don't see them man at all. 507 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:54,960 Speaker 2: Reds so hard. 508 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 4: I hate the root against them because I love the team, 509 00:25:57,960 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 4: but they just can't get over the hump right now, 510 00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080 Speaker 4: and a couple injuries and they just you know, they'll 511 00:26:03,080 --> 00:26:04,919 Speaker 4: go through some spurts where they'll win the games and 512 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 4: then they get two or three within and then boom. 513 00:26:08,160 --> 00:26:10,399 Speaker 2: Good pitching stats. I want them. I want them in 514 00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:10,960 Speaker 2: so bad. 515 00:26:11,560 --> 00:26:12,399 Speaker 4: The city needs that. 516 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:13,240 Speaker 3: It's been a while. 517 00:26:13,359 --> 00:26:16,919 Speaker 4: So yeah, but you seem like when you bag and 518 00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:18,920 Speaker 4: you play, those are the teams I really don't get out, 519 00:26:19,600 --> 00:26:20,880 Speaker 4: and you see it time and time. 520 00:26:20,920 --> 00:26:23,440 Speaker 2: I go, Yeah, they ran one thousand sims to put 521 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,000 Speaker 2: all of this together. So last piece of the puzzle 522 00:26:26,080 --> 00:26:29,520 Speaker 2: is they showed us a few of the stats. So 523 00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,320 Speaker 2: they had cal Riley finishing in the thousand sims seven 524 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:37,640 Speaker 2: times with sixty two homers or more, one time at 525 00:26:37,680 --> 00:26:40,919 Speaker 2: sixty four. The high homer mark for a tany they 526 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:44,840 Speaker 2: had sixty six in one thousand sims. They had one 527 00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 2: seventy homer season. For judging, this means the percentage chance 528 00:26:48,480 --> 00:26:51,719 Speaker 2: is super low, but it's it's not nothing. So just 529 00:26:51,760 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: throwing it out there with some of the individual stats 530 00:26:54,040 --> 00:26:56,439 Speaker 2: that they put together, and I'm trying to see if 531 00:26:56,440 --> 00:26:59,119 Speaker 2: there were any other kind of big upsets. It's about it. 532 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,879 Speaker 4: Ever find one hundred and thirty eight sims at forty 533 00:27:02,920 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 4: forty seasons. 534 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 2: Out of a thousand, so they're giving him about what 535 00:27:06,920 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 2: a thirty fourteen? 536 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:11,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, a little under four. I love it. This is 537 00:27:11,520 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 5: what I want to see. I want to see. I 538 00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:15,200 Speaker 5: want to see something like that. I want to see 539 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 5: the race for forty forty. I want to see PCA going, 540 00:27:19,600 --> 00:27:22,400 Speaker 5: you know where we have the ticker up, thirty six homers, 541 00:27:22,480 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 5: thirty eight bags, one week left. I want to see 542 00:27:25,920 --> 00:27:28,639 Speaker 5: a home run race like I want to see the daily. 543 00:27:28,760 --> 00:27:32,919 Speaker 5: Maybe I'm nostalgic from the whole Soasa maguire, yeah season, 544 00:27:33,560 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 5: but I want to see a home run race where 545 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 5: it's like. 546 00:27:37,880 --> 00:27:41,360 Speaker 3: Bang, cal Rally hits one. Bang Judge, he hits one. 547 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:44,320 Speaker 3: Everyone's hating on cal Rally because he's a switch it 548 00:27:44,400 --> 00:27:46,720 Speaker 3: or everyone's hating on Judge because he's hitting him a 549 00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,560 Speaker 3: Yankee stadium and they're just back and forth thirty seven, 550 00:27:49,640 --> 00:27:53,119 Speaker 3: thirty nine, thirty nine, forty like that. I want to 551 00:27:53,160 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 3: see that, I do. I think that's great from the game. 552 00:27:55,920 --> 00:27:58,159 Speaker 2: That was fun. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm with you. 553 00:27:58,280 --> 00:28:00,720 Speaker 2: We got some big boppers. They've got the to do it. 554 00:28:01,000 --> 00:28:02,960 Speaker 2: Cal's probably gonna get a little more DH time in 555 00:28:03,000 --> 00:28:04,719 Speaker 2: the second half to make sure he's in the lineup 556 00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:07,200 Speaker 2: every day, right, I mean, I know he can catch 557 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,760 Speaker 2: every day and he wants to know. You don't think soakrats. 558 00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:11,800 Speaker 3: I just think he's gonna be out there because they're 559 00:28:11,800 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 3: gonna be pushing that watch the starting catchers start. They're 560 00:28:15,760 --> 00:28:20,280 Speaker 3: gonna be pushing for that wildcard spot and dudes like this, 561 00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:23,760 Speaker 3: dudes that are built differently. Unfortunately, it might hurt him offensively. 562 00:28:24,720 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 3: He's going to be out there day game after night game. 563 00:28:27,359 --> 00:28:28,280 Speaker 3: He's gonna be out there. 564 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,119 Speaker 2: They need him offensively. Krats like he is the Hey 565 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,440 Speaker 2: is the guy the they're just as relying on him 566 00:28:33,480 --> 00:28:35,359 Speaker 2: now as the Yankees are on Judge. 567 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 3: And he but he's offensively I get it, so he's 568 00:28:38,600 --> 00:28:40,960 Speaker 3: gonna be out there, but he's also a platinum glove. 569 00:28:41,400 --> 00:28:44,440 Speaker 3: Mitch Garver's receiving numbers aren't right there they had They 570 00:28:44,640 --> 00:28:49,240 Speaker 3: need every margin of error like they need every every 571 00:28:49,360 --> 00:28:51,120 Speaker 3: on the margins to be able to make it to 572 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: the playoffs. Again we talk about it though, the Mariners 573 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:58,200 Speaker 3: in the playoffs be very very careful. 574 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, with that's that. Also, it doesn't happen often, so 575 00:29:02,320 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 2: the city deserves it. Thanks to that of the park. Baseball 576 00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:07,360 Speaker 2: twenty six for putting these sims together really cool and 577 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:09,360 Speaker 2: I like Kratz's idea. Let's do that again after the 578 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:13,160 Speaker 2: trade deadline. OTP twenty six is now at fifty percent 579 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,000 Speaker 2: off through July seventeenth, that's next week, and for the 580 00:29:16,000 --> 00:29:17,360 Speaker 2: first time ever, they have the Road to the World 581 00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 2: Baseball Classic in there. The Player Development Lab two point 582 00:29:20,640 --> 00:29:22,880 Speaker 2: zero is up and running. You can scan that QR 583 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:25,560 Speaker 2: code on the screen or check it out if you 584 00:29:25,600 --> 00:29:28,120 Speaker 2: google it. It'll take you to a page to be 585 00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 2: able to purchase the game for half off for the 586 00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:35,400 Speaker 2: next week. Jason Stark put out his twenty twenty five 587 00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:42,240 Speaker 2: Mid season Awards right now, ALMVP for him, Aaron Judge, 588 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:45,920 Speaker 2: n LMVP for him. Sho HEO Tani. So he's got 589 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:51,640 Speaker 2: Cal second, Raley and Pete Crow Armstrong second PCA in 590 00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:56,320 Speaker 2: the National League. Let's start there real quick, like don't. 591 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:59,120 Speaker 4: Like, I like, but Raleigh's a strong, strong one. B 592 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:01,760 Speaker 4: right now he is, Okay, he's a stut. 593 00:30:02,120 --> 00:30:04,480 Speaker 2: What about Otani over PCA. 594 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,720 Speaker 4: I would say Otani and I like Otani. 595 00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 2: You like And obviously O's gonna keep pitching and racking 596 00:30:10,800 --> 00:30:12,560 Speaker 2: up more anings. I know they're going to slow play it, 597 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 2: but it helps. Kratz looks like he's got other thoughts. 598 00:30:17,120 --> 00:30:19,800 Speaker 3: In the National I would say I would say pc 599 00:30:19,960 --> 00:30:24,760 Speaker 3: A over over Otani because I get what Otani has done. 600 00:30:25,240 --> 00:30:28,720 Speaker 3: He's done it at DH, though could change in the 601 00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,840 Speaker 3: second half. The more he keeps pitching, he might just 602 00:30:32,000 --> 00:30:35,200 Speaker 3: he might just run away with it. But what PCA did, 603 00:30:35,960 --> 00:30:38,400 Speaker 3: He's put this team, He's putting, not his own as 604 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:41,120 Speaker 3: back because Kyle Tucker has been helping to and other guys. 605 00:30:41,160 --> 00:30:45,280 Speaker 3: It's a full team effort. But may PCA's first half 606 00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: and I agree with him when the judge part I 607 00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:50,240 Speaker 3: I'm not saying that cal Raley's not going to win it, 608 00:30:51,160 --> 00:30:53,440 Speaker 3: but I think judge what he did in the first 609 00:30:53,440 --> 00:30:55,480 Speaker 3: half is also historical. 610 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 2: Everything that PCA is doing is elite right, base running, 611 00:30:59,800 --> 00:31:05,480 Speaker 2: dur clutch everything. Yeah, I'm a big PCA guy, but 612 00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:07,640 Speaker 2: Otani could play catch him in the second half with 613 00:31:07,680 --> 00:31:09,720 Speaker 2: the pitching and the hitting that that usually helps. No 614 00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:13,400 Speaker 2: one else does that, So you're going to see him 615 00:31:13,640 --> 00:31:15,840 Speaker 2: slowly tick up. They're going to take their time. They 616 00:31:15,880 --> 00:31:18,640 Speaker 2: just want him by September in a five inning spot, 617 00:31:18,760 --> 00:31:20,719 Speaker 2: and I'm sure he'll try to push to six and 618 00:31:20,800 --> 00:31:23,600 Speaker 2: in the playoffs, maybe even seven if he's really feeling himself. 619 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 2: Let's go over the LVPS. So Jason Stark, from his 620 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,480 Speaker 2: article in The Athletic listed the al LVP least valuable players, 621 00:31:33,800 --> 00:31:39,720 Speaker 2: so underperformers as Luis Robert really is having a down 622 00:31:39,840 --> 00:31:42,680 Speaker 2: year and it's a bummer obviously for White Sox fans, 623 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 2: but really for another team that could have acquired him, 624 00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:47,200 Speaker 2: and he's such a talent, it just hasn't figured it out. 625 00:31:47,480 --> 00:31:50,680 Speaker 2: A Doley Scarcia having a down year, and then he 626 00:31:50,840 --> 00:31:54,880 Speaker 2: listed Anthony Rendon as a Career Achievement Award which is fair. 627 00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 2: On the National League side. Michael Harris, who we've talked 628 00:31:58,000 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 2: about a couple of times in the past week. Really, 629 00:32:00,400 --> 00:32:02,560 Speaker 2: right now, I'm qualified players. It is the worst in 630 00:32:02,560 --> 00:32:05,000 Speaker 2: baseball as he all be is having a super down year, 631 00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:09,400 Speaker 2: and Brian Reynolds on this list who could get traded, 632 00:32:09,480 --> 00:32:11,360 Speaker 2: but it has to be to a team that believes 633 00:32:11,360 --> 00:32:13,320 Speaker 2: that this is a blip in the radar. I think so. 634 00:32:13,640 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 2: But what do you think of the LVPS? 635 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 4: I get Luis Robert mat It's tough. He had what 636 00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:21,360 Speaker 4: thirty nine homers last year or the year before, almost 637 00:32:21,360 --> 00:32:24,320 Speaker 4: reached a forty mark, and now it's just been hit 638 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,680 Speaker 4: or miss with this guy, Bro, I don't know. It's 639 00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 4: a tough one. I would agree with Dallas has got 640 00:32:29,320 --> 00:32:32,080 Speaker 4: to figure it out. Ren Don just hasn't played, so 641 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:33,920 Speaker 4: I don't even know what you do with that one. Yeah, 642 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,320 Speaker 4: Harris had a great year last year too, No, my 643 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,920 Speaker 4: mistaken him. I thinking about the wrong guy. Now he's 644 00:32:39,920 --> 00:32:42,480 Speaker 4: bat and ninth for the Braves, right, he did pretty 645 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:43,880 Speaker 4: darn good in that nine hole. 646 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,040 Speaker 2: Harris in his career has had nothing like this. I 647 00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 2: mean this is year I believe this is year four 648 00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,880 Speaker 2: in his career. Yeah, this is season four in his career. 649 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,959 Speaker 2: He's had nothing like this his first three seasons. I mean, 650 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:57,200 Speaker 2: he was the best in twenty twenty two, his rookie year, 651 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 2: right going on a tear bat ninth. Yeah, his offense 652 00:33:01,240 --> 00:33:03,280 Speaker 2: has gone down year to year here, but even still 653 00:33:03,320 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 2: last year he's about league average offensive player and he's 654 00:33:05,680 --> 00:33:09,360 Speaker 2: an elite defender, good base runner. But yeah, Kratz, it 655 00:33:09,440 --> 00:33:11,280 Speaker 2: could be a case of the league starting to figure 656 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:12,760 Speaker 2: him out. I know now he's in his head at 657 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:16,320 Speaker 2: this point. But the offensive numbers went from rookie year, 658 00:33:16,560 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 2: second year down another you know, ten to fifteen percent, 659 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,160 Speaker 2: another ten to fifteen percent last year, and then this 660 00:33:21,280 --> 00:33:23,760 Speaker 2: year it's it's it's a mess. 661 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 3: It's a mess. It's a mess. And the again, I 662 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 3: mean I talked about strikeouts earlier. I just don't know 663 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,640 Speaker 3: where the strikeouts and came from in this sense. I mean, 664 00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:39,880 Speaker 3: he's one hundred strikeout guy. But you know, I guess 665 00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:43,880 Speaker 3: this people will say, people will say metrically, analytically, well, 666 00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:45,960 Speaker 3: if you don't control the strike zone, you know, he's 667 00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:49,160 Speaker 3: not a big he doesn't walk a lot. That's this 668 00:33:49,280 --> 00:33:50,680 Speaker 3: is going to catch up to you. You know, it 669 00:33:50,720 --> 00:33:54,240 Speaker 3: doesn't it doesn't last if you don't control control the 670 00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,200 Speaker 3: strike zone. To me, the Luis Robert thing is is 671 00:33:57,280 --> 00:34:02,080 Speaker 3: crazy though. Least valuable player like some and I would 672 00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 3: be one of them, would have been like, you know, 673 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:07,840 Speaker 3: how motivated really is this guy? Guy's got twenty two bags, 674 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:10,839 Speaker 3: so when he's getting on like he wants to get 675 00:34:10,840 --> 00:34:13,840 Speaker 3: after it, he just has to figure out a way 676 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:21,000 Speaker 3: to put together consistent at bats. And to me, I think, shoot, 677 00:34:21,320 --> 00:34:24,360 Speaker 3: even a hot month this year, he could have he 678 00:34:24,400 --> 00:34:26,760 Speaker 3: could have worked himself into a big trade and everybody 679 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,719 Speaker 3: would have said he was back. He's just he's just 680 00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 3: like any other elite prospect where it's like as soon 681 00:34:31,560 --> 00:34:34,240 Speaker 3: as you show a glimpse of something, they're like, yep, 682 00:34:34,880 --> 00:34:36,920 Speaker 3: this is it. This is the guy where petty you know, 683 00:34:36,960 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 3: the reason we got him, the extension thirty nine home 684 00:34:39,600 --> 00:34:42,719 Speaker 3: run guy, and he just hasn't been there. 685 00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:46,480 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's crazy for Luis Robert. I mean he is. 686 00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:50,000 Speaker 2: He is someone that they could have gotten a lot 687 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 2: for a couple of years ago, but he had so 688 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:53,960 Speaker 2: much team control. Now he actually doesn't have team control 689 00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,000 Speaker 2: because his next couple of years are option years and 690 00:34:56,120 --> 00:34:58,120 Speaker 2: he's not worth the money right now. So it's kind 691 00:34:58,160 --> 00:35:00,520 Speaker 2: of crazy that they're gonna maybe get almost nothing for 692 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,439 Speaker 2: that asset, which brings me to you Arena Club, because 693 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,400 Speaker 2: if you held on to your Luise Robert cards, it 694 00:35:05,440 --> 00:35:07,839 Speaker 2: did not work out well a few years ago. If 695 00:35:07,840 --> 00:35:09,560 Speaker 2: you got a Louise Robert rookie and you got a 696 00:35:09,560 --> 00:35:12,160 Speaker 2: little buy back from Arena Club, which happens every time 697 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:13,719 Speaker 2: you open a slab pack, you can just sell it 698 00:35:13,800 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 2: right back to them. If you're like, you know what, 699 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 2: I don't think this guy's worth it, and I'm going 700 00:35:17,680 --> 00:35:19,560 Speaker 2: to take the cash. That's what you can do here. 701 00:35:19,640 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 2: Use code foul for twenty percent off your first slab 702 00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:24,399 Speaker 2: pack or card purchase. Go support it at least check 703 00:35:24,400 --> 00:35:28,960 Speaker 2: it out arenaclub dot com slash foul and we're back, 704 00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:32,360 Speaker 2: and we're saying bye bye people for real. Happy Friday, 705 00:35:32,520 --> 00:35:35,160 Speaker 2: enjoy your weekend, last three games before the All Star 706 00:35:35,200 --> 00:35:37,640 Speaker 2: Break for whatever team you're looking for, and then we 707 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:39,799 Speaker 2: will see you in atl for the Derby and the 708 00:35:39,800 --> 00:35:41,719 Speaker 2: All Star Game. We're super pumped about it. We'll have 709 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:46,479 Speaker 2: shows every day next week as well for All Star Week.