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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast part of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: I am Chadmillman, Chief Content Officer of the Action Network.

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Speaker 2: How you doing, brother, dude?

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Speaker 1: Finals are over? We still got one game left, well,

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Speaker 1: in the Stanley Cup. Later on in the show, Mike Leeboff,

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Speaker 1: Last week Shockwave News the PIF, which owns and operates Live,

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Speaker 1: merges with the PGA. There have been so many interesting

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Speaker 1: TikTok stories the past week about how this whole thing

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Speaker 1: came together. The players involved, Jimmy Dunn, a board member

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Speaker 1: at PGA, Michael Klein, part of the PGA contingent, Jay

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Speaker 1: Monahan flying around the world, eating breakfast at a hotel

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Speaker 1: in Venice, hoping he doesn't get recognized, to meet with

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Speaker 1: the head of PIF to close this deal. Give me

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Speaker 1: the three takeaways from the deal making that have been

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Speaker 1: most interesting to you.

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Speaker 4: I hope you meant, first of all, Chad, that these

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Speaker 4: are TikTok stories. Is in the timeline of what's going on,

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Speaker 4: not that we all have to get on TikTok to

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Speaker 4: follow these stories, because that might be the worst thing

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Speaker 4: to happen of this entire merger.

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Speaker 1: Interchangeable, inter changeable. This morning, I was having breakfast with

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Speaker 1: my wife, and my wife is always like saying to me,

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Speaker 1: you don't want to banter, but I like banter, like

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Speaker 1: she wants to chit chat sometimes. And so I've realized

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Speaker 1: that when I want to banter, it's like in the

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Speaker 1: the day. But those are the only two times she

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Speaker 1: to me then and she looks at me and she goes, look,

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Speaker 1: we're not banter compatible. Bear in mind, next week we're

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Speaker 1: celebrating our twenty fifth wedding anniversary. She's like, we're just

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Speaker 1: not banter compatible. You're on TikTok the whole freaking day.

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Speaker 1: I know you're on TikTok all day. Every chance you get,

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Speaker 1: you're gonna go on TikTok between a meeting or a

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Speaker 1: call or whatever. I'm not so this is my time,

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Speaker 1: so I don't want to talk. So if we can

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Speaker 1: get on TikTok and find the TikTok about the live

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Speaker 1: PGA deal, fantastic. Instead, I've got Jason Sober.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, well, I'm not doing the TikTok. If that's what's

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Speaker 4: coming out of this merger, then I'm moving on. But

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Speaker 4: three takeaways from three takeaways from what we've seen over

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Speaker 4: the past week. First of all, more questions than answer. Still,

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Speaker 4: even a week later, I still have plenty of questions

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Speaker 4: as to what's going on. Look, I got into this

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Speaker 4: business twenty years ago, bringing the PGA Tour because Chad,

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Speaker 4: I am qualified to watch other people play golf and

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Speaker 4: then afterwards, go, so it look like you played pretty good, huh?

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Speaker 4: And and they say yes, I played well, and I

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Speaker 4: go okay, cool, and I write something down about it.

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Speaker 4: And that's essentially what I'm qualified to do. It's not

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Speaker 4: very good. That said, once we start getting into antitrust

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Speaker 4: lawsuits and the Department of Justice and subpoenas and senators

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Speaker 4: looking into things. I'm like, like, way over my head,

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Speaker 4: but i know that my boss is gonna want me

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Speaker 4: looking into all this stuff. So I've got to get

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Speaker 4: much smarter about what's going on very very quickly, or

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Speaker 4: else I'm going to fall behind. So there's a lot

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Speaker 4: of that stuff still lingering. I still think that a

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Speaker 4: lot of this was precipitated by the fact that there

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Speaker 4: was litigation both sides. There was going to be a

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Speaker 4: discovery phase. The PGA tour looked at that discovery phase

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Speaker 4: and said, uh, we've got some things that we really

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Speaker 4: don't want getting out there and the public investment funds

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Speaker 4: that you know. Come to think of it, we actually

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Speaker 4: have a couple skeletons of the closet as well. We

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Speaker 4: may not want those things getting out publicly either. Hey,

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Speaker 4: why don't we start talking and see if we can

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Speaker 4: come to an agreement and we can all figure out

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Speaker 4: a way to move forward in this game of golf.

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Speaker 4: And the other thing I can tell you, I don't

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Speaker 4: know how many takeaways this is so far, I'm not counting,

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Speaker 4: but in case best too Okay, good, I got one more.

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Speaker 4: Here's a takeaway from everything we've learned. In case you

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Speaker 4: didn't know this, in case you thought golf is all

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Speaker 4: about it's a game of honor, and golf is about integrity,

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Speaker 4: and golf is about you know, at the professional level,

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Speaker 4: it's about you know, who plays the best and who wins.

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Speaker 4: I've got news for you, guys. Golf, much like business,

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Speaker 4: much like life, much like everything we've ever known, is

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Speaker 4: all about the benjamins. It's about the dollars. It's about money, money, money,

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Speaker 4: It's about the rials, so to speak. Because this is

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Speaker 4: what it's all about. This is what is precipitating everything

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Speaker 4: I've heard guestimations that the PGA Tour goold, double, triple,

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Speaker 4: quadruple invaluation with this new entity that's been formed. And

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Speaker 4: again it's funny. J Monahan, the PGA Tour Commissioner, and

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Speaker 4: the congratulations to the new CEO of whatever this for

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Speaker 4: profit entity is going to be. He was approved by

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Speaker 4: the board. The board, of course, is includes himself, Yasser

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Speaker 4: al Ramayan who did the deal for PIF, and Jimmy

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Speaker 4: Dunn and Ed Hurlahe who were on the PGA Tour

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Speaker 4: policy Board, who also put themselves on this board and

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Speaker 4: then hired J Monahan, So that's how that happened. But

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Speaker 4: J Monahan is said over the past week, I don't

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Speaker 4: know why everyone's calling it a merger. It is not

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Speaker 4: a merger. Well, it's probably because the press release that

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Speaker 4: was sent out to the media on Tuesday at ten

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Speaker 4: am last week said PGA Tour, DP World Tour and

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Speaker 4: Public Investment Fund merge Commercial Operations. Sorry, I don't know

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Speaker 4: where we got merger from. It was only in your

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Speaker 4: press release. So again that leads to maybe my last takeaway,

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Speaker 4: I don't know how many of this is. Maybe this

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Speaker 4: is my fourth takeaway out of three. But the fourth

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Speaker 4: takeaway is I'm not sure sure how I'm supposed to

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Speaker 4: report on this story. I'm not sure how anyone's supposed

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Speaker 4: have absolutely no clue right now. Either they're saying, don't

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Speaker 4: call it a merger when they're sitting out press releases

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Speaker 4: literally calling it a merger. They're still in the dark.

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Speaker 4: We're certainly in the dark.

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Speaker 1: Hey, sobo, as you've seen players come in, have you

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Speaker 1: spoken to guys. I know it's still early there. What

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Speaker 1: is sort of the reacts you're getting now that where

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Speaker 1: and anger starts to subside as they reckon with reality.

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Speaker 4: The PGA tour players are very, very angry at j Monahan.

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Speaker 4: There was a player meeting last week at the RBC

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Speaker 4: Canadian Open where a large majority we're not just mad

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Speaker 4: at Jay, but calling for his resignation. They were that mad. Now,

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Speaker 4: I tend to believe that they get it. For the

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Speaker 4: year and a half, Monahan and others with a PGA

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Speaker 4: tour asked them to be loyal. They preach loyalty, they

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Speaker 4: preached devotion, they preached integrity, and then all sudden Jay

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Speaker 4: just did the exact opposite of everything he had said

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Speaker 4: tell them this was gonna happen, and all of a

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Speaker 4: them and says, well, you know, things have changed. I

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Speaker 4: think it's very hypocritical of him. In fact, jamon And

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Speaker 4: a response and said yep, sure, Ken definitely gonna do that,

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Speaker 4: and so I think he understands the situation that he

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Speaker 4: has put himself in. But again, this was about money.

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Speaker 4: It was about the discovery phase of the litigation. This

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Speaker 4: was about trying to save yourself as opposed to I

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Speaker 4: don't know if it was ever going to go under,

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Speaker 4: but there were signs that the PGA Tour was going

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Speaker 4: to be hurting. Look, they had to infuse a lot

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Speaker 4: more money into these elevated designated events that they've started

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Speaker 4: playing this year, essentially in retaliation to live Basically, how

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Speaker 4: Yeah, So Simon, we usually look at specific metrics where

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Speaker 1: Yeah, but you spoke to creativity. Are guys like Patrick Reid,

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Speaker 4: It's very possible. Look number one on the mentally tough

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Speaker 4: golf every single time? Boom, that's it. I mean, we

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Speaker 4: don't have to spend twenty five minutes breaking down the

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Speaker 4: US Open. We can spend ten seconds and say, brooks Koepka,

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Speaker 4: he's really good at majors. He's playing this week he's

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Speaker 4: mentally tough, he's really good at golf. It might be him,

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Speaker 4: and it very well could be him. I did a

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Speaker 4: ranking for us at the Action Network yesterday of the

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Speaker 4: top tier of the field, and I had Brooks kept

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Speaker 4: getting number five, and what I wrote about him was,

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Speaker 4: he might be the only guy I could list at

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Speaker 4: number five and legitimately has a case of I feel

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Speaker 4: like I'm getting I'm getting doubted. I'm gonna put a

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Speaker 4: chip on my shoulder. I'll put this up with a

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Speaker 4: refrigerator because you guys are doubting me and don't think

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Speaker 4: I can do it again. I wasn't trying to demean

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Speaker 4: Brooks Kepkin anyway, but he certainly to go out and

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Speaker 4: win again this week, because yes, mental toughness is going

444
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Speaker 4: to be a big key this week as well.

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Speaker 1: All Right, I want to I wanna tell people who

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Speaker 1: are listening, uh, your top twenty five, And if anyone

447
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Speaker 1: who's in the pool with me is listening, yeah, you

448
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Speaker 1: can assume that some people on this list will be

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Speaker 1: people that I choose. And I'm not afraid to reveal

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Speaker 1: my secrets because I keep winning anyways. Cameron Smith number one,

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Speaker 1: Jordan Speth number two, Scottie Scheffler number three, Patrick Cantlay

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Speaker 1: number four, Keepka five, Fee now six forty to one

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Speaker 1: right now, Xander Schoffley seven, Patrick Reid eight, Rombo nine,

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Speaker 1: Ryan Fox, Ryan Fox number ten, Simon, go ahead, what sober?

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Speaker 4: What say it? If you'd like me to list chalk

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Speaker 4: A list chalk, that's not what the Action Network is about.

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Speaker 4: Oh listen of course.

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Speaker 1: By the way, by the way, don't be defensive. I

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Speaker 1: was actually doing this for a reason because Simon might

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Speaker 1: have a question about long shots, and I think it's

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Speaker 1: interesting that you have Ryan Fox at one hundred and

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Speaker 1: thirty to one at number ten, before Rory McElroy at

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Speaker 1: fifteen to one at number eleven, or Justin Thomas at

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Speaker 1: fifty to one number twelve. So I was teeing up

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Speaker 1: my friend Simon by using your very good content to

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Speaker 1: do that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, chat its me so well, Jason, I just want

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Speaker 3: long shots.

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Speaker 2: I'm here.

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Speaker 3: I love Brooks. That was incredible what we've seen, but

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Speaker 3: I want crazy long shots. I would love to hear

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Speaker 3: who you like for the long shots because I'm addicted

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Speaker 3: to it. I think it was Hideki who I head on?

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Speaker 3: What was it two years ago?

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Speaker 2: Now? Was that the Masters he won.

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Speaker 3: That was one of those where it's like, all right,

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Speaker 3: if I can get fifty to one and a guy

478
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Speaker 3: like a decy, I need to form more, find more

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Speaker 3: diamonds than a rough. So I'm addicted to it. Who's

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Speaker 3: your favorite long shot for the US Open this year?

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Speaker 4: Ers, Well, Simon, you're talking to a guy who's hit

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Speaker 4: Emiliano Grillo and Nick Taylor as long shots into the

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Speaker 4: last three weeks. In between, I had Victor Hovlin but

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Speaker 4: and he won, but he was It's been three in

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Speaker 4: a row. So thank you want to point that out, Yes,

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Speaker 4: you're welcome. That said, when you're looking at long shots,

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Speaker 4: I think it's interesting in golf because there are long

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Speaker 4: shots who have win equity, and then there are long

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Speaker 4: shots who I think can finish in the top ten

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Speaker 4: make nice top ten props. Ryan Thok is a guy

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Speaker 4: I really like this week. I think he's gonna play

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Speaker 4: some really good golf. Can he win a US Open?

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Speaker 4: I'm not so sure that he's ready to do that.

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Speaker 4: Even though he's been around for a long time, he's

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Speaker 4: won all over the world. I just don't think that

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Speaker 4: he's gonna win. But I love him for top ten props.

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Speaker 4: As far as long shots that can win, I mentioned

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Speaker 4: Patrick Reid already. We know he can win a major championship.

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Speaker 4: I think his price is much too long in the marketplace.

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Speaker 4: I would have priced him at somewhere in the sixty

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Speaker 4: to sixty five to one range. Instead, he's trading at

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Speaker 4: about eighty to one right now, So I think that's

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Speaker 4: a really nice price right around that number, and maybe

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Speaker 4: even eighty five. Ninety to one is Seawu Kim. Seawau

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Speaker 4: Kim is a guy we've always known has a very

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Speaker 4: high ceiling, but one that doesn't know what he's rear

507
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Speaker 4: its head because he'll win and then he'll go away

508
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Speaker 4: for a year or so where he can that it's

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Speaker 4: a bottomless floor. And so when he's not winning, he's

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Speaker 4: shooting seventy nine's and missing the cut. He is That

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Speaker 4: has changed over the past year. He's now made eighteen

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Speaker 4: of twenty one cuts. This season, he's been top seven

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Speaker 4: and three of his last six starts. We know the

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Speaker 4: ceiling is still there, the floor has been elevated. What

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Speaker 4: I always say about outright long shot plays is look

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Speaker 4: if they finished second or they finished one hundred and

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Speaker 4: fifty six you lose the same amount of money. I

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Speaker 4: want a guy who has that high ceiling is a

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Speaker 4: long shot and can win. I think Seawoo Kim gives

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Speaker 4: you that ceiling this week.

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Speaker 1: I do want to read you right up for Ryan

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Speaker 1: Fox because it is just funny. This is when an

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Speaker 1: NFL team reaches for a third round projection in the

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Speaker 1: middle of the first round, and all the pundits are

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Speaker 1: like whoa, and then the guy turns out to be

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Speaker 1: a very functional key player for a long time. It's

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Speaker 1: a very good way to get me excited about Ryan Fox.

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Speaker 1: Not just now, but you know at the Travelers or

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Speaker 1: something where they say some guys are taking the week

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Speaker 1: off and Ryan Fox comes in and you know he

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Speaker 1: tears the place up.

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Speaker 4: Very well, could happen, Ryan Fox. The only thing that

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Speaker 4: has really broken his stride this year was the week

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Speaker 4: after the Masters played. His first Masters played pretty well.

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Speaker 4: He's finished top thirty and nine of his last ten starts.

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Speaker 4: After the Masters, he got pneumonia. So he went home,

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Speaker 4: I believe, back to New Zealand where he's from. And

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Speaker 4: then his wife had a second kid, and so I'm

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Speaker 4: hoping and I talked to him about it. I was like,

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Speaker 4: was the pneumonia gone before the kid arrived. He's like, yeah,

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Speaker 4: I think I was okay. So I mean everything is

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Speaker 4: okay in the Fox household. But in all seriousness, just

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Speaker 4: got his full PGA Tour member. He had to play

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Speaker 4: his way onto the PGA Tour this year. He was

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Speaker 4: able to do that. He's got a family at home

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Speaker 4: where he's got a young baby that you know, there's

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Speaker 4: been a lot of they call it the nappy factor,

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Speaker 4: where right after a golfer has a kid or a

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Speaker 4: second kid, all of a sudden, it's like, you know,

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Speaker 4: this weightlifted and they start playing better golf. I don't

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Speaker 4: discredit that. And so there's a lot of sort of

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Speaker 4: weightlifted from his shoulder, and it feels like a little

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Speaker 4: bit of a free role for him. Not to go

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Speaker 4: too deep on Ryan Fox, but I like players when

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Speaker 4: essentially they're not they're not playing with pressure on them.

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Speaker 4: They're playing with this nothing to lose attitude, because hey,

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Speaker 4: all all I can do is win some more. I

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Speaker 4: you know, nothing's gonna happen that's gonna hurt my career

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Speaker 4: this week.

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Speaker 1: Listen, by the way, it's not called a weight being lifted.

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Speaker 1: It's called Holy fuck, I got a kid and I

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Speaker 1: gotta make a living.

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Speaker 4: That's that's what that is.

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Speaker 1: And by the way, Ryan Fox a shout out to

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Speaker 1: my buddy Josh and Chicago, who is on a tear

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Speaker 1: as a golf better and like every week he's texting

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Speaker 1: me like his breakdowns and his legal pads of who

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Speaker 1: he's betting on and the long shots, and he loves

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Speaker 1: betting on golf. And Ryan Fox feels like the kind

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Speaker 1: of golfer my buddy Josh is going to go in on.

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Speaker 1: Sob I want to let you get back to work,

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Speaker 1: go and go and get listen. I know you got

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Speaker 1: a reservation to Dan Tana's. You got to get to

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Speaker 1: Dan Tana's corner table.

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Speaker 4: Is it good? We went past there yesterday. Is it

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Speaker 4: worth going Tana's.

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Speaker 1: It's like you go, you go for the vibe. Man.

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Speaker 1: It is like stepping into you're talking about when you're

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Speaker 1: talking about lacc and walking around and seeing the Beverly Hilton,

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Speaker 1: Like you walk into Dantanna's and you feel like you

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Speaker 1: are stepping into Hollywood glamour. It just I don't even

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Speaker 1: remember the food. It's just a good vibe.

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Speaker 4: Well, I can tell you and First of all, I'm

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Speaker 4: going to thank you because you're picking up dinner tonight.

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Speaker 4: I'm going out with Corner, Raybon and Trebby for dinner tonight,

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Speaker 4: so I appreciate it. Juys, thank you that well.

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Speaker 1: Go to Dantanas, have a good time. Maybe someone will

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Speaker 1: be listening to the podcast and they'll buy you a drink,

589
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Speaker 1: which just happened to me and Simon before. But that

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Speaker 1: is a dangerous crew. All I can tell you right now, Trebby,

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Speaker 1: who just had a second kid, and yourself, you are

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Speaker 1: not going to last all night with Corner or Raybon,

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Speaker 1: and you don't want to know where they're going after d'antana's.

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Speaker 1: Let's wrap it up though, all right, from what I

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Speaker 1: can From what I can see, you're like Cam Smith,

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Speaker 1: You like Jordan Speith, we might like Seewoo Kim is

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Speaker 1: a long shot. We might like Patrick Reid is a

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Speaker 1: long shot.

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Speaker 4: Correct. The one other player that I have bet in

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Speaker 4: all full disclosure, I've bet those four already, and I

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Speaker 4: put a little on Tony Feenow at forty to one.

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Speaker 4: Tony Fenau was my guy about six months ago, before

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Speaker 4: I knew much about this golf course. He just fit

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Speaker 4: the recent profile of US Open champions, big strong guy

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Speaker 4: you look at. This used to be the major championship

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Speaker 4: that the Corey Pavins, the Jim Fuoricks, when the Lee

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Speaker 4: Jansens could win, the short guys were accurate, kept it

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Speaker 4: in the fairway and on the greens. Over the last

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Speaker 4: seven or eight years, it's brooks Kepta, Dustin Johnson, Bryson, Deshambo,

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Speaker 4: John Rahm, Gary Woodland. Even last year Matt Fitzpatrick. Not

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Speaker 4: a big dude. He looks like he's twelve years old,

612
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Speaker 4: but a guy that had gained a lot of swing speed,

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Speaker 4: had gained some power going into that US Open. And

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Speaker 4: so I don't think we're gonna see the same US Open.

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Speaker 4: It's just not the same setup that we've seen over

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Speaker 4: the last seven or eight years. But Tony Fow fits

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Speaker 4: the profile of guys we've recently seen win US Opens,

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Speaker 4: just because at the beginning of the year I was

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Speaker 4: saying Tony Fenw even he's dropped a little bit in

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Speaker 4: my ranking, but I don't want to get off of

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Speaker 4: him because I've been on him for so long.

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Speaker 1: Here for even more US Open betting content, check out

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Speaker 1: our betting previews and our best Bets episode on the

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Speaker 1: Links and Locks podcast, also presented by our friends three

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Speaker 1: six five with our good friend Jason Sobol. Enjoy dinner tonight.

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Speaker 1: You're welcome, Enjoy lacc Enjoy the US Open. Sobol, great

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Speaker 1: to see you. Thanks for coming on, Simon. We're going

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Speaker 1: to transition. We're going to transition to your favorite podcast guest,

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Speaker 1: because every time Mike Leboff comes on, I see like

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Speaker 1: the twinkle in your eye, and because he's talking about

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Speaker 1: all these things that are interesting to you. We're going

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Speaker 1: to talk a little bit about darts. You can tell

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Speaker 1: him how you did in your darts. We're going to

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Speaker 1: talk about Game five of the Stanley Cup Finals. We're

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Speaker 1: going to talk a little bit about previewing NHL Draft.

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Speaker 1: We got the Panthers and the Golden Knights. Leave offf

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the Favorites. Leab offf host of the unbelievably

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Speaker 1: which you know, I'm gonna take a little bit of

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Speaker 1: credit here, not you, not Mitchell, not anybody else, because

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Speaker 1: we had you on before the season started, and we

642
00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 1: promoted the podcast and the podcast had record numbers this year.

643
00:33:19,840 --> 00:33:22,520
Speaker 5: Yeah, I would say that all credit goes to you

644
00:33:22,720 --> 00:33:26,760
Speaker 5: once again, of course, and you begging for a hockey

645
00:33:26,760 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 5: podcast on the Action Network channels and I finally relented,

646
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:34,680
Speaker 5: So you were right on both fronts.

647
00:33:35,160 --> 00:33:37,000
Speaker 1: I've got my finger on the pulse of what the

648
00:33:37,040 --> 00:33:38,080
Speaker 1: audience wants.

649
00:33:39,400 --> 00:33:40,920
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's true. And you know what I think they

650
00:33:40,960 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 5: want right now is a little Ashes talk for me

651
00:33:43,840 --> 00:33:48,520
Speaker 5: and Simon. We've got Crickets Crickets Best competition coming up.

652
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,680
Speaker 5: It's an Ashes summer and Simon's native England. That's why

653
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,360
Speaker 5: I'm dressed like I am. I'm pulling for Australia. I'll

654
00:33:54,360 --> 00:33:55,960
Speaker 5: be betting on Australia. They looked great.

655
00:33:56,280 --> 00:34:00,320
Speaker 1: Can you explain to people before we before every already

656
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:02,520
Speaker 1: just disengaged from the podcast because we're going to go

657
00:34:02,560 --> 00:34:07,880
Speaker 1: from Test cricket to darts and NHL and when NHL

658
00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:10,960
Speaker 1: is like Big three your anchor leg you know you're

659
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,320
Speaker 1: starting off with stuff that nobody gives a fuck about.

660
00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:17,839
Speaker 1: But let's explain to people what you are wearing if

661
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 1: they're not watching us on the YouTube.

662
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:23,799
Speaker 5: Yeah, well, I've got my West Indies Cricket hat on

663
00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:26,799
Speaker 5: which you know it's not I'm pulling for Australia. But

664
00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:31,080
Speaker 5: I like to put West Indies in India in the

665
00:34:31,120 --> 00:34:33,640
Speaker 5: same bucket as Australia because they all want to beat

666
00:34:33,640 --> 00:34:38,839
Speaker 5: England because Simon's England. They colonized all these places and

667
00:34:38,920 --> 00:34:41,480
Speaker 5: cricket was a way for them to beat their colonizers

668
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 5: at something. That's why these countries all play cricket. And

669
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:49,720
Speaker 5: the Ashes is England and Australia. It's every other year.

670
00:34:50,080 --> 00:34:53,160
Speaker 5: So the last one was in Australia in the Australian summer,

671
00:34:53,239 --> 00:34:56,440
Speaker 5: so December twenty twenty one that would be in Australia

672
00:34:56,520 --> 00:35:00,080
Speaker 5: just absolutely kicked England's ass. It was not close at all. Well,

673
00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,600
Speaker 5: but I mean it's different style cricket there because it's dry.

674
00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:07,799
Speaker 5: In England it's wet and the conditions changed. So it's

675
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,319
Speaker 5: about a pick them and just remember like this is

676
00:35:11,280 --> 00:35:16,640
Speaker 5: five Test matches, so five five day matches and whoever

677
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 5: comes out on top gets to take home and earn

678
00:35:19,840 --> 00:35:22,399
Speaker 5: which is the trophy. I'm not kidding. It's like this big,

679
00:35:22,480 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 5: that's the size of your hand. That it's like the

680
00:35:25,960 --> 00:35:27,759
Speaker 5: opposite of the Stanley Cup. Like if you put the

681
00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:30,800
Speaker 5: Ashes next to the Stanley Cup, it would be hilarious.

682
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:33,319
Speaker 5: And the reason it's called the Ashes is because in

683
00:35:33,560 --> 00:35:38,319
Speaker 5: the eighteen eighties an Australian writer, Australia beat England in

684
00:35:38,360 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 5: a Test match and he said that the body of

685
00:35:42,160 --> 00:35:45,839
Speaker 5: England cricket has been killed and the body has been

686
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:48,400
Speaker 5: cremated and the ashes have been sent back to Australia

687
00:35:48,840 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 5: and that's how this whole thing came about. And it's

688
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 5: the most it's the most bizarre sport to watch because

689
00:35:58,120 --> 00:36:01,600
Speaker 5: nothing happens until something happens. It's like a court case

690
00:36:01,719 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 5: just unfolding on grass and it's about who can cheat

691
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,720
Speaker 5: like a little bit better and everyone's hammered in the stands.

692
00:36:09,880 --> 00:36:11,880
Speaker 5: It's it's gonna be a lot of fun in and

693
00:36:12,239 --> 00:36:14,160
Speaker 5: I hope everybody now now watches it.

694
00:36:14,880 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 2: But it goes on for seven days. That's the key

695
00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:17,240
Speaker 2: to cricket.

696
00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 5: Five days, Yeah, five five days, five different times. So

697
00:36:20,320 --> 00:36:24,080
Speaker 5: it's it starts Friday and then it'll end July thirty first.

698
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,440
Speaker 3: Now, Lee Loft, do you know what the most famous

699
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:28,720
Speaker 3: cricket movie is in America?

700
00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:31,759
Speaker 2: No days?

701
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:35,200
Speaker 3: That confused with that battle?

702
00:36:35,280 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, just because of the paddle.

703
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:39,239
Speaker 3: That's that's as far as America goes with cricket is

704
00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:42,560
Speaker 3: young kids can smack in the ass with cricket battles.

705
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:46,400
Speaker 1: You know, earlier today I was talking to a buddy.

706
00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 2: And you have no friends, Chad, I got one, it's.

707
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:56,040
Speaker 1: My only friend left. And he was asking me something

708
00:36:56,080 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 1: about betting, and I actually used Lee Buff as the example,

709
00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 1: Like there is a personality that is almost they are

710
00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:14,480
Speaker 1: so angry at anybody liking anything that is mainstream but

711
00:37:14,600 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: has no quirkiness, no character, no real emotional value. So

712
00:37:24,840 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: they go to the extreme end to things like betting

713
00:37:29,440 --> 00:37:34,280
Speaker 1: hockey or betting golf, or betting darts or betting cricket

714
00:37:34,640 --> 00:37:37,680
Speaker 1: and immerse themselves in it so much. And I need

715
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:39,480
Speaker 1: to know now that we have Lebuff on the podcast,

716
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:44,560
Speaker 1: and I'd forgotten he was coming on today, that where

717
00:37:44,560 --> 00:37:50,320
Speaker 1: does that come from? Like like why cricket instead of football?

718
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:52,560
Speaker 1: Why darts instead of NBA?

719
00:37:52,880 --> 00:37:53,560
Speaker 4: Do you know what I mean?

720
00:37:55,680 --> 00:37:57,279
Speaker 5: I think it's just more you said it, It's like

721
00:37:57,280 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 5: a got more quirk to it. There's more substance to

722
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,640
Speaker 5: something that has these kind of insane history to it,

723
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:10,799
Speaker 5: rather than you know, just here's here's a team that

724
00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 5: was invented. They're the Philadelphia Eagles. Why like it's just

725
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:17,200
Speaker 5: because well, there's a big city in Philadelphia they needed

726
00:38:17,200 --> 00:38:19,839
Speaker 5: a football team, and here's how they came about, like

727
00:38:20,680 --> 00:38:23,520
Speaker 5: Manchester United, and meant like I'm a huge soccer fan too,

728
00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:26,560
Speaker 5: Like these clubs came up because they were either you know,

729
00:38:26,960 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 5: a factory worker and their off day was Wednesday.

730
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:30,440
Speaker 1: Right.

731
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:32,520
Speaker 5: There's a big city in England called Sheffield and one

732
00:38:32,560 --> 00:38:35,120
Speaker 5: club is Sheffield United and they played on Sundays and

733
00:38:35,120 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 5: the other team was Sheffield Wednesdays because those guys had

734
00:38:37,760 --> 00:38:40,160
Speaker 5: off on Wednesday, so they would play their soccer on Wednesday.

735
00:38:40,239 --> 00:38:40,399
Speaker 4: Right.

736
00:38:40,680 --> 00:38:44,880
Speaker 5: So those kind of stories you learn through and I

737
00:38:44,920 --> 00:38:47,160
Speaker 5: want to keep going and learning more about those stories

738
00:38:47,239 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 5: rather than you know, hearing about Aaron Rodgers mundanely for

739
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 5: three hundred and sixty five days a year. I don't

740
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,719
Speaker 5: really give a shit what Aaron Rodgers is doing on

741
00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,040
Speaker 5: like a Tuesday morning in New York City, but I

742
00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:04,280
Speaker 5: would love to hear like about you know how why

743
00:39:04,520 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 5: the biggest trophy in test cricket is this little earn.

744
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:09,719
Speaker 5: And the way I start learning about these sports is

745
00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 5: betting on them, because you throw five bucks on a

746
00:39:12,120 --> 00:39:14,360
Speaker 5: game and you're invested and you're watching and then the

747
00:39:14,360 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 5: next thing you know, you're doing it again, and you're

748
00:39:16,560 --> 00:39:18,560
Speaker 5: learning more and more and more, and the next thing

749
00:39:18,600 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 5: you know, you're you're geeked up for the Ashes more

750
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:25,240
Speaker 5: than you are for Game five of the NBA Finals

751
00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:26,919
Speaker 5: or whatever happened last night Game six.

752
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:30,520
Speaker 3: Well easy transition from Sheffield United who's been around for

753
00:39:30,560 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 3: what one hundred and fifty years to a Las Vegas

754
00:39:33,080 --> 00:39:35,640
Speaker 3: Knights who've been around for I don't know five years.

755
00:39:35,719 --> 00:39:37,920
Speaker 3: I mean, this is this is pretty crazy in the

756
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:39,880
Speaker 3: hockey world. I would love to get your view on this,

757
00:39:39,960 --> 00:39:44,400
Speaker 3: the fact that we had a Panthers Vegas Finals and

758
00:39:44,440 --> 00:39:47,200
Speaker 3: it's been really good. I mean, honestly, I've really enjoyed

759
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:49,759
Speaker 3: these games. So I would love to know your view

760
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 3: on just you know, what hockey is, right, we always

761
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 3: talk about I mean, I guess you could say the

762
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,840
Speaker 3: same with NBA. It's like, if it's not the I,

763
00:39:58,840 --> 00:40:02,200
Speaker 3: it's not the original six and hockey, who really cares, right,

764
00:40:02,400 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: That's that's kind of the whole knock in hockey where

765
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 3: it's like, you know, people stick their nose up with

766
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,440
Speaker 3: these new franchises. And I'll admit I hate Vegas, especially

767
00:40:10,440 --> 00:40:13,080
Speaker 3: as a hockey fan. I hate this team came in.

768
00:40:13,560 --> 00:40:15,960
Speaker 3: They cherry picked all these players from these different teams

769
00:40:16,560 --> 00:40:18,839
Speaker 3: and here they are. Is I mean, dude, they are

770
00:40:18,880 --> 00:40:22,920
Speaker 3: so dominant, so good. Their goalie hill has been unreal

771
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:26,279
Speaker 3: in these finals. Just I mean, just looking at this,

772
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: we're three to one in. Is there any hope for

773
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:33,000
Speaker 3: Florida Panthers or are they just lucky to be here? Because again,

774
00:40:33,040 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 3: they're the AEC. I know in hockey doesn't matter as much,

775
00:40:35,600 --> 00:40:37,560
Speaker 3: but you can really see the difference in talent level

776
00:40:37,560 --> 00:40:40,600
Speaker 3: between them in Vegas. I mean, Vegas just looks just

777
00:40:40,640 --> 00:40:42,680
Speaker 3: so complete. They don't have a weakness on their team.

778
00:40:42,719 --> 00:40:45,799
Speaker 3: Their defense is good, they're I mean, their offense is incredible.

779
00:40:46,560 --> 00:40:48,680
Speaker 3: Are we literally seeing a team the birth of a

780
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,680
Speaker 3: dynasty or is this a one hit wonder for Vegas?

781
00:40:50,719 --> 00:40:52,719
Speaker 3: And you know they should enjoy this three to one

782
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:53,719
Speaker 3: lead they have right now.

783
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:55,719
Speaker 2: Yeah, they'll they'll be good.

784
00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:57,840
Speaker 5: I think they're like fourteen or sixteen to one to

785
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:01,320
Speaker 5: win the Stanley Cup next year on the early looks

786
00:41:01,360 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 5: so uh, but they they're Their salary caps structures is bizarre.

787
00:41:06,640 --> 00:41:10,560
Speaker 5: They always just kind of trade, you know, kick the

788
00:41:10,600 --> 00:41:13,080
Speaker 5: can down the road and and bring in players that

789
00:41:13,080 --> 00:41:16,319
Speaker 5: can help them immediate in the immediate uh term, rather

790
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,759
Speaker 5: than worry about anything in the future. And it's got

791
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:20,880
Speaker 5: them here. This is their second Stanley Cup final in

792
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:25,040
Speaker 5: six years. And yeah, but I go back and forth

793
00:41:25,040 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 5: on at the NHL when they expanded in Vegas, they

794
00:41:28,200 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 5: set the expansion draft up in a way that it

795
00:41:30,760 --> 00:41:35,400
Speaker 5: wasn't just gonna, you know, make them terrible if it

796
00:41:35,440 --> 00:41:38,360
Speaker 5: felt like in years past when.

797
00:41:39,600 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 2: So they wanted Vegas to be good.

798
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:42,640
Speaker 5: It felt like they but I mean they did it

799
00:41:42,680 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 5: with Seattle too, was the same rules, and they just

800
00:41:44,520 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 5: didn't want these expansion markets. Like the NHL needs to

801
00:41:47,960 --> 00:41:50,640
Speaker 5: succeed in new markets. It's it's not like the NFL,

802
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:52,840
Speaker 5: right like where if the NFL opened, uh you know,

803
00:41:52,840 --> 00:41:55,399
Speaker 5: they put a team in acron Ohio, like that team

804
00:41:55,440 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 5: would be fine because they're in the NFL, Like they

805
00:41:57,560 --> 00:42:00,440
Speaker 5: got the NFL shield to protect them, the same in

806
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:03,800
Speaker 5: the NHL. So they went with a different strategy and

807
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:08,719
Speaker 5: it's worked. The Vegas fan base is awesome, The experience

808
00:42:08,800 --> 00:42:13,000
Speaker 5: is great, So they're good. To answer your question, they're good.

809
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 5: I think Florida is always going to be live because

810
00:42:16,080 --> 00:42:19,120
Speaker 5: it's a it's hockey be the team's done it before

811
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:21,960
Speaker 5: to a better team, to Boston in Round one. But

812
00:42:22,080 --> 00:42:25,280
Speaker 5: they do seem a little walking wounded in Matthew Kachuck.

813
00:42:26,480 --> 00:42:29,319
Speaker 5: Sounds like his shoulder is separated, and so if he

814
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 5: does play, he's going to be playing on one arm.

815
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:33,600
Speaker 5: And he's their best player, one of the best players

816
00:42:33,600 --> 00:42:35,919
Speaker 5: in the league, so losing him is a big deal.

817
00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,759
Speaker 5: I do like Florida tonight, though from a betting standpoint.

818
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:41,799
Speaker 5: You look at the last time these two teams played

819
00:42:41,840 --> 00:42:44,840
Speaker 5: in Vegas, which was Game two eight days ago. The

820
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:48,560
Speaker 5: line closed minus one thirty five ish. It's minus two

821
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:52,920
Speaker 5: hundred right now. I don't think that, you know, any

822
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:56,080
Speaker 5: hockey player is worth sixty five cents to a betting line.

823
00:42:56,160 --> 00:43:00,160
Speaker 5: He's not, you know, some terrific quarterback for LSU or

824
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:03,440
Speaker 5: something right like, this is an NHL player. This is

825
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:05,880
Speaker 5: not a situation like that. So I think it's a

826
00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:08,360
Speaker 5: little bit of an overreaction. So I'll be betting Florida,

827
00:43:08,760 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 5: putting together a little same game lottery ticket parlay to

828
00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:14,480
Speaker 5: just in case it is the last game of the season.

829
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:17,160
Speaker 5: You got to go out with a bang, maybe win

830
00:43:17,239 --> 00:43:21,680
Speaker 5: some some scratch, use that scratch to head over to England.

831
00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,280
Speaker 5: Check out check out one of the test matches quickly.

832
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,839
Speaker 1: What will your your same game parlay B? But then

833
00:43:30,840 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 1: I have a follow up.

834
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 5: Sure three goal scorers. Michael Amadio on Vegas, he's like

835
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:42,680
Speaker 5: plus four sixty, Anton Lindell on Florida he's five plus

836
00:43:42,680 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 5: five fifty, and Alex Petrangelo on Vegas he's seven to one.

837
00:43:47,000 --> 00:43:49,359
Speaker 5: I think they're all They're all worth it.

838
00:43:49,719 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: Simon just made.

839
00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:52,960
Speaker 2: All those bets, honestly did.

840
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:59,800
Speaker 1: What's interesting, it's interesting to me that Simon is anti Vegas.

841
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,920
Speaker 1: I actually love that Vegas got so good so fast,

842
00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:07,080
Speaker 1: and I think it's one of the few things the

843
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:12,080
Speaker 1: NHL has done right is making them being self aware

844
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:15,200
Speaker 1: enough to know we better make sure these expansion teams

845
00:44:15,280 --> 00:44:19,719
Speaker 1: Vegas Seattle are good fast, because fans will not have

846
00:44:19,800 --> 00:44:23,440
Speaker 1: patience and will they will spend their money elsewhere, and

847
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:26,840
Speaker 1: those stadiums will sit empty. And I think what Vegas

848
00:44:26,840 --> 00:44:29,600
Speaker 1: did with the Golden Knights, help get the Raiders there,

849
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,760
Speaker 1: help get the A's there. It turned that town into

850
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:37,760
Speaker 1: a sports town that felt like the locals could rally.

851
00:44:37,880 --> 00:44:39,680
Speaker 1: I don't think they're taking the Raiders the same way

852
00:44:39,680 --> 00:44:42,200
Speaker 1: they are the Golden Knights because of you know, the relocation.

853
00:44:42,600 --> 00:44:45,319
Speaker 1: The Golden Knights an original team. But I love the

854
00:44:45,320 --> 00:44:47,320
Speaker 1: way the NHL handle it. I love the fact that

855
00:44:47,400 --> 00:44:50,320
Speaker 1: Golden Knights have been good. I love the way Vegas

856
00:44:50,360 --> 00:44:53,160
Speaker 1: has embraced them. We've off the NHL did something right here.

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Speaker 5: Well, Vegas is a town that appreciates quirk too, right,

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Speaker 5: Like there's whim to hockey, there's today.

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Speaker 1: The time I go into a sports book, half the

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Speaker 1: screens are on test matches. That's how much they appreciate quirk.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, if you get there early enough, they will be

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Speaker 5: this coming week and we'll be pulling for those Aussies.

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Speaker 1: What can you tell us about?

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Speaker 4: Uh?

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Speaker 1: So you think Floor is going to win tonight? You

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Speaker 1: put in your same game parlay of goal scorers. What

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Speaker 1: should we be looking for for the NHL draft, where

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Speaker 1: I believe the Chicago Blackhawks have the number one overall pick.

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Speaker 3: That's what I was gonna say, chatt as a black Hawks. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: you can be happy for Vegas. You got your cup

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Speaker 3: whatever is it ten years ago against my Flyers, three

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Speaker 3: of them, three of them cups.

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Speaker 2: I'm bitter.

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Speaker 3: I'm bitter, all right, Yeah, I got freaking Danny Breer

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Speaker 3: running my team. I don't know what the hell is

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Speaker 3: going on to Flyers, but it's.

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Speaker 5: Not he's got a He's got the right idea with

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Speaker 5: that team, though I think, yeah, oh boy, yeah, Son

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Speaker 5: wasn't good. But the the NHL draft we were talking

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Speaker 5: about before, right, Chad, Yeah, you want to talk like

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Speaker 5: I Those poor Blackhawks fans three Stanley Cups in a decade,

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Speaker 5: then have to endure two tough seasons and now they

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Speaker 5: get the the next Connor McDavid serious. Meanwhile, the one

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Speaker 5: year in the Islanders when the lottery, the guy that

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Speaker 5: they pick just abandoned ship gone. When the going gets tough,

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Speaker 5: John Tavares gets going somewhere else. The uh yeah, the

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Speaker 5: draft will be fun. It's always fun to bet. Last

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Speaker 5: year I hit an eighteen to one winner on the

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Speaker 5: second overall pick with with our our great buddy, great

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Speaker 5: New Jersey pison, Steve Petrella. He the two of us

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Speaker 5: hit Simon Lemich to New Jersey because we knew that

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Speaker 5: if Montreal picked the guy they eventually picked, which was

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Speaker 5: you're a Slkowski, the Devils wouldn't take a center, They'd

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Speaker 5: probably take a defenseman. And he was severely underrated by

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Speaker 5: the sports books, and that's what we'll look for here.

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Speaker 5: So this is going to sound nuts, but the key

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Speaker 5: to betting this NHL draft, because we know that Badard

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Speaker 5: is going to go to your beloved Blackhawks first is

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Speaker 5: trying to figure out where Matt fi Mitchikov. He's this

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Speaker 5: little Russian star, but we don't know if he's coming over,

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Speaker 5: when he's coming over, if his dad was found dead

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Speaker 5: in a pond. I'm not kidding a few months ago.

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Speaker 5: So whenever, yeah, whatever, whenever you're dealing with rush, it's

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Speaker 5: things get a little interesting. So a lot of teams,

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Speaker 5: he's I think considered the second most talented player in

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Speaker 5: the draft class, but there's so much risk to picking up,

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Speaker 5: so using him as kind of the wild card is

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Speaker 5: how you want to bet the draft. And I think

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Speaker 5: that the team he he's going to end up going

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Speaker 5: to with San Jose in the fourth spot, but that's

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Speaker 5: not the bet I'm gonna make. The bet I'm gonna

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Speaker 5: make is kind of based off that it's Leo Carlson.

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Speaker 5: He should be double digits at the very least to

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Speaker 5: go fifth overall to Montreal. They need a center. Carlson

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Speaker 5: is projected by most most mock drafts to go second

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Speaker 5: to Columbus, but I think that they're actually going to

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Speaker 5: end up picking an American center, Will Smith, excuse me,

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Speaker 5: third to Columbus after Adam finn Tilly goes to Anaheim.

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Speaker 5: That seems like a certainty, so it'll be Dard Fantilly

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Speaker 5: and then most people expect Carlson to go third to Columbus,

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Speaker 5: but I actually think that they'll end up going with

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Speaker 5: the more finished product, which is this guy Will Smith,

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Speaker 5: because Columbus wants to compete next year. I don't think

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Speaker 5: they want to spend another year developing players, which means

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Speaker 5: that Mitch Cobb and Carlson will go four or five

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Speaker 5: in some combination. And I'm going to bet that San

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Speaker 5: Jose is the team that will embrace the risk of

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Speaker 5: taking Mitch Cob at four because they're still in the

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Speaker 5: process of tearing things down and can be patient with

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Speaker 5: a player like that. So that lands me on Leo

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Speaker 5: Carlson to Les Habitants at the fifth overall pick. It

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Speaker 5: should be a good number, so when those start to

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Speaker 5: pop up more widespread, that that'd be the bet I'd

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Speaker 5: hop on.

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