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Speaker 1: On today's episode The Command Center Podcast, we talked OV

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Speaker 1: breaking records No.

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Speaker 2: Grade eight and.

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Speaker 1: To see on the mount rushmore of athletes who do

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Speaker 1: down all the new rules and is the toush push

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Speaker 1: the greatest play of all time? Or is it on

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Speaker 1: that fair?

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Speaker 2: It's unfair that all starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Welcome into the Command Center Podcast. I'm Logan Paulson here

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Speaker 1: with Fred Smoot and Santana.

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Speaker 2: Mos mm hmm.

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Speaker 1: And it's always good to be back in the studio.

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Speaker 1: We're not gonna be talking so much football today. We're

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Speaker 1: talking football today, obviously.

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Speaker 2: Now we're talking greatness today.

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Speaker 1: We talk You can tell we all got our commander

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Speaker 1: her capital stuff onto.

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Speaker 3: Most definitely, like you gotta realize OVI has made the

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Speaker 3: whole world look at Washington d C. All right, because

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Speaker 3: we watch them. We watch other teams do this all

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Speaker 3: the time. We watch other players do it, We watch

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Speaker 3: Steph Kurry, we watch other people hit these milestones. And

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Speaker 3: then everybody had to tune on, tune in to that

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Speaker 3: To see when he was gonna get the record high

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so obviously we're going to talk about ov quite

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Speaker 1: But before we get into that mm hm, we got

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Speaker 1: a little bit of housekeeping just as a reminder. You know,

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Speaker 1: we do that other podcast, tick to the Draft podcast

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Speaker 1: where Jason and I do a lot of like draft

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Speaker 1: on that show quite a bit. And we had a

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Speaker 1: bet last year and it was for who is the

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Speaker 1: best draft analysts of the two of us. Yes, and

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Speaker 1: so basically we had to pick six guys, five or

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Speaker 1: six guys, I don't remember exactly what it was. Jason

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Speaker 1: this year we're going to see who who kind of

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Speaker 1: won that bet, who had the best ballers of that group? Yes,

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Speaker 1: we're going to see who won, because that's that show's

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Speaker 1: coming out on the seventeenth.

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Speaker 3: Free kiper Like the one thing about free Kiper is

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Speaker 3: and like I said, he's more of an analytics guy.

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Speaker 3: I'm more of a I tist guy. I want to

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Speaker 3: and feel a prospect to say what he's going to be.

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Speaker 2: And I'm looking for one word. Love.

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Speaker 1: You said that yesterday one is your show.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, well love love.

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Speaker 1: Of the game. Let's specify that love the game. Please

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Speaker 1: love the game. And so that that bet and so

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Speaker 1: basically that bet is something that I really wish I

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Speaker 1: hadn't done because I got to get someone. If you lose,

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Speaker 3: You gotta bend the knee game of throne, ben the

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Speaker 3: knee to something that's bigger than you. That's what's got

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Speaker 3: to happen. And I believe it's humbling. See the one

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Speaker 3: for want us to be humbled because the other one

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Speaker 2: Guru is appropriate here.

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Speaker 1: That's very approbing about you, Fred, But I was humbled

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Speaker 1: quite a bit my playing career.

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Speaker 2: You know, like he's been.

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Speaker 1: Listen know what I'm talking about? Though on this show.

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Speaker 2: It was all the time.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it was all the time. So make sure you

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Speaker 1: check that out. That's gonna be on the Command Center show,

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Speaker 1: which airs on YouTube, and if you're not, you should

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Speaker 1: that out. The beat is coming up on April seventeenth,

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Speaker 2: It is my birthday.

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Speaker 3: It was the day my daddy help me up like this,

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Speaker 4: Well, you also you got another job that you never

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Speaker 4: really participated. I think you did once you could be

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Speaker 4: a stand up comedian. I heard the story the other

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Speaker 3: Hey, yeah, man, really, Freddie Murphy, you were you like

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Speaker 3: prepped for No. I was literally doing this sports show

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Speaker 3: They had us booming outside so he could hear us,

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Speaker 3: I told real story, like just people, the people's story,

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Speaker 1: I can always tell me he's working on a new baby.

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Speaker 4: I mean I'm impressed every time I've been knowing him,

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Speaker 1: It's funny because you know Jeremy Green that the draft

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Speaker 2: I just love to be happy, man, this is what

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Speaker 3: I love to keep a smile on my face and

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Speaker 3: I love to make people smile.

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Speaker 1: As I was about make people smile. You know, he's

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Speaker 1: Alexandrovtchkin's at the NFL all time scoring record with eight

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you gotta respect hockey players, dude. You gotta just

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Speaker 3: Until a hockey player smiles at you, you don't know

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Speaker 1: So one of my favorite of Etchkin clips is when

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Speaker 2: And they just get bigger and bigger.

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Speaker 3: Like people want to talk about the difference in Wayne

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Speaker 4: Ever think about what we do as football players and

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Speaker 3: I just want to put them dukes up.

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Speaker 3: There's one of them sports where they just say, okay,

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Speaker 4: gooon off the skates, yeah, but on them skates is

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Speaker 2: You have to know how to carry yourself, balance yourself.

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Speaker 4: You got to only use one hand because you can't

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Speaker 2: You have no balance.

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Speaker 3: Think about your son or daughters just sitting there watching

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Speaker 2: Holding each other, y'all really just I saw one guy

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Speaker 2: Can can old guys tap out? I've never seen the

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Speaker 3: Even the dude that's getting whooped, right, even the loves

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Speaker 1: You know, the soumber one. While you see like, uh,

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Speaker 1: there's different scales to the hockey culture. There's guys that

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Speaker 3: It's the third line guys, not the first line guys.

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Speaker 2: They'd be like, he ain't gonna fight.

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Speaker 3: It's just something about this place is letting people play

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Speaker 1: It is. It is impressive. Yeah. I think about that

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Speaker 3: He's thirty nine and had forty plus goals. This never

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Speaker 2: This guy's just it's just steady the whole time.

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Speaker 3: And that's what makes it crazy, especially in the time

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Speaker 4: You know, it's odd about it also is if you

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Speaker 4: trying to basically tell them it's Curtains call from now

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Speaker 4: And to me, it was just because the team suck,

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Speaker 2: Do you think it's time for ob to put him up?

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Speaker 4: And I'm sitting there saying to myself, it's funny how

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Speaker 2: Is your last year, this is the last time we should.

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Speaker 4: Be seeing this guy instead of just letting that athlete

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Speaker 2: Show us or prove us that he still has it.

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Speaker 4: So that's one of the things that I appreciate more

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Speaker 3: I love OVI already, but then when I found out

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Speaker 1: And it does hit different when you hear him singing

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Speaker 2: I just want to see him clip. I want to

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Speaker 3: It makes me want to take him out for a

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Speaker 1: I got a question for you, and what we're going

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Speaker 3: No, he he is the epitome of I do not

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Speaker 2: I don't care about any but I hope you got

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Speaker 3: Because I'm original, That's why my teeth is like that.

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Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting to compare him to like

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Speaker 2: While he drinking vodka.

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Speaker 3: But I love it because it's it's this thing about

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Speaker 3: oh what do you eat lavender flours?

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Speaker 1: No?

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Speaker 2: I eat fried polkchi. Like some of us don't get

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Speaker 1: Else would be on that way? I was just trying

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Speaker 4: Daily, I would say Lawrence Taylor, don't uh Rock from

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Speaker 4: Denver Basketball, Denver Center. What his name is?

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Speaker 2: The joker?

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Speaker 4: Joker, the joker, Yeah, yeah, I mean, don't give he

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Speaker 3: It seems like he hates He's just happened to be

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Speaker 1: But it's also like that's the thing about him, like

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Speaker 4: Joke ABO magazine what they say about Ovie, they say,

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Speaker 4: and you say, Okay, the reason why because Jordan went

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Speaker 2: And Jordan did this. Lebron put so.

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Speaker 4: Much on his body and he still go get those shots.

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Speaker 4: He's still do Covid didn't go out. He made sure

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Speaker 2: Was in the gym. They said, what, you don't know

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Speaker 4: He said, you go out of town on the way

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Speaker 2: OV goes to the ring first. He goes and get

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Speaker 4: And say he don't give it down the way he partying,

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Speaker 1: That extra work with Like people don't say, like you

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Speaker 1: because there's changing direction, like you got to be on

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Speaker 1: Like he's a little bit more of a spot shooter,

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Speaker 1: like he drinks a six pack of oh, you know,

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Speaker 5: Did you guys ever play with anyone here that had

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Speaker 1: So I like, I got a question. I got a

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Speaker 1: But he would do it like in secret.

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Speaker 2: Yes, like he'd go like he would not share it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this, but but he also like would pretend like

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Speaker 2: This is what Bruce would do.

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Speaker 1: Man.

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Speaker 2: Like, when I met Bruce, he.

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Speaker 3: Was in what we call it twilight. He was very

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Speaker 3: all right. He comes to me and chimp before the year.

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Speaker 3: I'm a rookie. He's like, guys, I need you all

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Speaker 2: If I can get this wreck, I play on his side.

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Speaker 2: I'm a right corner. He'll write defensive. Then.

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Speaker 3: Now my middle lineback at the time, Miltchell was like

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Speaker 2: Like, Bruce is gonna pass rush on first down, shake

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Speaker 3: What they run on first and he's like he's going

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Speaker 3: they just running a tall, sweep eyeway. But he would

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Speaker 2: I'm going to get this record, like he was going

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Speaker 1: But that's the thing is like everyone kind of talked

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Speaker 1: like on his own, Like you wondered the people think

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Speaker 2: But he was. He was capsuley him. Bruce was capsually him.

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Speaker 3: And just like we were talking about at the least

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Speaker 2: Here they taking me in.

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Speaker 3: I'm the youngster at the group and this is unbelievable,

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Speaker 3: and I got to watch them up close firsthand, like

447
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Speaker 3: enjoy the spoils of your richest you know.

448
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Speaker 4: Thinking about that question you asked, Jay, it's crazy because

449
00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:50,160
Speaker 4: I remember at the Universe of Miami we had Drin James.

450
00:18:50,200 --> 00:18:52,840
Speaker 4: He was like the guy that he was, like our blueprint.

451
00:18:52,920 --> 00:18:55,520
Speaker 4: He was Basically he showed us like I remember his

452
00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,600
Speaker 4: freshman year watching him when I was in high school.

453
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Speaker 2: I'm like, man, that guy got something now.

454
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Speaker 4: And I remember myhman year him being a you know,

455
00:19:02,000 --> 00:19:05,399
Speaker 4: a sophomore and watch how he overtook that starting position

456
00:19:05,480 --> 00:19:07,440
Speaker 4: and kind of like just like bron find to show

457
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:08,960
Speaker 4: y'all how to get this money or how to get

458
00:19:08,960 --> 00:19:12,200
Speaker 4: to the next level. But besides that, when he came

459
00:19:12,240 --> 00:19:14,360
Speaker 4: home every year and then by the time we caught

460
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Speaker 4: up with him and got to the league, we all

461
00:19:16,440 --> 00:19:17,480
Speaker 4: did the same thing.

462
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Speaker 2: I'm talking about.

463
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Speaker 4: We would go out, we would meet up at his condo,

464
00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,040
Speaker 4: go out, have a good time. But what we didn't

465
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Speaker 4: know when he break out and leave, he was going

466
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Speaker 4: to go work out and he did it. And at

467
00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 4: one point when we was hanging he was the one

468
00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,680
Speaker 4: that wasn't drinking, like we were having a good time,

469
00:19:33,240 --> 00:19:35,520
Speaker 4: and it's now he drinks like you know, like.

470
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Speaker 2: Damn, he's a gambler because he whooped me out of

471
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Speaker 2: the fire. He would shoot pool, beat me up.

472
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Speaker 4: He would be He was one of those guys that

473
00:19:43,240 --> 00:19:47,560
Speaker 4: can hang out and be around all that without partaking

474
00:19:47,600 --> 00:19:50,320
Speaker 4: and nothing and then go get that workout. So just

475
00:19:50,359 --> 00:19:53,200
Speaker 4: to answer that question, you have to make sacrifices. There

476
00:19:53,280 --> 00:19:55,880
Speaker 4: is guys that you might look at me like why

477
00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:56,679
Speaker 4: is he so special?

478
00:19:56,760 --> 00:19:58,280
Speaker 2: Because he's doing the same thing I'm doing.

479
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:02,160
Speaker 4: It's something he's sacrif he sacrificed it somewhere down the line,

480
00:20:02,600 --> 00:20:05,080
Speaker 4: something that you might not be sacrificed. Yeah, And that's

481
00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:06,840
Speaker 4: like that just one guy that came up in my mind.

482
00:20:06,840 --> 00:20:08,120
Speaker 2: I feel like I got a couple more guys.

483
00:20:08,119 --> 00:20:10,400
Speaker 3: I can we want to talk about guy that beat

484
00:20:10,480 --> 00:20:13,639
Speaker 3: the streets as much as they beat the field.

485
00:20:13,680 --> 00:20:18,720
Speaker 2: You got one representative who I love, Mike. I like something.

486
00:20:18,880 --> 00:20:21,440
Speaker 4: I don't think his perception what what they said about

487
00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,560
Speaker 4: him was real. You know what I'm saying, Like what

488
00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,960
Speaker 4: he's what he did work hard. He did work hard.

489
00:20:25,960 --> 00:20:28,320
Speaker 4: He always worked, but he did that and party, Yeah,

490
00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:29,520
Speaker 4: you know what I mean. So he was a guy

491
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Speaker 4: that you saw him working.

492
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Speaker 1: Part I got a question for you because the other

493
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Speaker 1: one that I always wondered about was DeShawn Jackson, because

494
00:20:35,600 --> 00:20:38,520
Speaker 1: Dashawn would act like he was like asleep in the meeting,

495
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,960
Speaker 1: like he wasn't paying attention. Hoodie up, pulled down. But

496
00:20:41,080 --> 00:20:43,480
Speaker 1: he never anytime you asked him a question, he like

497
00:20:43,600 --> 00:20:45,520
Speaker 1: I always do. I knew the check versus cover too,

498
00:20:45,600 --> 00:20:47,600
Speaker 1: or I know the what a thunder looks like versus

499
00:20:47,600 --> 00:20:49,919
Speaker 1: all these different or he never made a mistake in practice.

500
00:20:49,960 --> 00:20:51,480
Speaker 1: So like I don't know if he was studying because

501
00:20:51,480 --> 00:20:52,359
Speaker 1: you were in the room of them. I don't if

502
00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:53,040
Speaker 1: he were studying on his own.

503
00:20:53,080 --> 00:20:54,760
Speaker 4: But he was a guy that again, good question because

504
00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 4: I never really personally asked him or look, but I

505
00:20:57,119 --> 00:20:58,000
Speaker 4: knew he always was sharp.

506
00:20:58,040 --> 00:20:58,280
Speaker 6: He knew.

507
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Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying, Like, there's guys like that where

508
00:20:59,920 --> 00:21:00,440
Speaker 1: he he's like he.

509
00:21:00,480 --> 00:21:02,840
Speaker 2: Kind of broughtly he was here.

510
00:21:02,920 --> 00:21:05,360
Speaker 1: He's like I don't really care, but like, obviously you can.

511
00:21:06,160 --> 00:21:07,760
Speaker 1: He's doing somebody and you're doing something.

512
00:21:07,840 --> 00:21:10,160
Speaker 4: And so guys know how to be prosed. I mean, guys,

513
00:21:10,240 --> 00:21:12,439
Speaker 4: just you know you could say that about cp ce.

514
00:21:12,600 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 4: P was a guy that see P wouldn't come to practice,

515
00:21:15,640 --> 00:21:17,800
Speaker 4: see people come to practice them flat shoes on. And

516
00:21:17,840 --> 00:21:20,360
Speaker 4: you knew he went in a fag of man and

517
00:21:20,359 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 4: and and you knew what he did the night before,

518
00:21:22,760 --> 00:21:25,280
Speaker 4: and you knew what he's finna do after you leave practice,

519
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:27,040
Speaker 4: and then he would go out there and get you

520
00:21:27,080 --> 00:21:29,960
Speaker 4: one eighty two touchdowns and you'd be like, Bro, this

521
00:21:30,040 --> 00:21:30,719
Speaker 4: dude is special.

522
00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:31,280
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.

523
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Speaker 4: And that's why I say to you, know, this is

524
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,679
Speaker 4: how you know that you and you're in the league

525
00:21:36,680 --> 00:21:40,080
Speaker 4: of you, in the league amongst guys that everybody's not

526
00:21:40,280 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 4: wired the same you. Guys, Bro, you can't do what

527
00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,800
Speaker 4: I do and I can't do what you do. So

528
00:21:45,880 --> 00:21:49,320
Speaker 4: therefore find who you are. And you see guys searching

529
00:21:49,359 --> 00:21:51,560
Speaker 4: for themselves, and they looking at guys like d Jack,

530
00:21:51,880 --> 00:21:55,119
Speaker 4: Drin James, Deshaun because they're doing different things.

531
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Speaker 2: They try to follow, they try to mimic it. You know,

532
00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:58,880
Speaker 2: they always told you, tell them, why are you coming

533
00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:00,680
Speaker 2: practice so hard because I had a practice.

534
00:22:00,880 --> 00:22:03,960
Speaker 4: I want to feel like I'm in a game because

535
00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,240
Speaker 4: that makes me ready for the game. If I'm sitting around,

536
00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:08,160
Speaker 4: I've done it before and played well.

537
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:08,800
Speaker 2: But it just.

538
00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:13,040
Speaker 4: Hate to not know what's going on. They have to

539
00:22:13,080 --> 00:22:15,360
Speaker 4: be bombarded with that, you know, come game day.

540
00:22:15,320 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 1: To that point. Like I bumped into one of my

541
00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:18,840
Speaker 1: old tight end coaches at the Combine and like he

542
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:20,560
Speaker 1: was with an offensive line coach that I had when

543
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 1: I was in Atlanta, and they were kind of shooting.

544
00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:24,320
Speaker 1: You're kind of you know, going down memory lane whatever,

545
00:22:24,359 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 1: and he goes, you know what, man, if you had

546
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:27,800
Speaker 1: ever had a drink alcohol, you never would have played

547
00:22:27,800 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 1: in the end of Like, my process was different than

548
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,400
Speaker 1: a lot, Like I was every meal, playing down every

549
00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: workout plan, every inch I could possibly get, because you know,

550
00:22:38,480 --> 00:22:40,240
Speaker 1: God gave me what I got. It was pretty good,

551
00:22:40,280 --> 00:22:42,240
Speaker 1: but it wasn't as good as Santana or friend Smooth,

552
00:22:42,560 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: and so like it's just interesting. Everyone's kind of got

553
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 1: to find their way.

554
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, got to find will.

555
00:22:46,520 --> 00:22:48,680
Speaker 3: But it's I think if you would have had a sip,

556
00:22:48,720 --> 00:22:50,080
Speaker 3: you would have turned into animal.

557
00:22:51,720 --> 00:22:58,919
Speaker 2: I think I think I think he'd been Jermany shocking,

558
00:22:59,080 --> 00:23:01,240
Speaker 2: like just a simple that.

559
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:03,399
Speaker 3: See I should have got big Mac McKinney and we

560
00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:04,480
Speaker 3: should have took you out.

561
00:23:04,359 --> 00:23:06,560
Speaker 2: For a night on the town. It showed you what

562
00:23:06,680 --> 00:23:07,400
Speaker 2: you really are.

563
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:12,720
Speaker 4: No man, keep logan, how logan? Damn slip screens. You

564
00:23:12,720 --> 00:23:16,040
Speaker 4: see your logan coming coming up like damn logan. Block

565
00:23:16,080 --> 00:23:18,240
Speaker 4: of two or three guys. It's a big old band,

566
00:23:20,080 --> 00:23:20,480
Speaker 4: not a lot.

567
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:22,480
Speaker 1: Of athletic juice, but it's gonna try hard for you.

568
00:23:23,200 --> 00:23:26,119
Speaker 2: I think if you had some you know, just a silpace.

569
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:28,439
Speaker 1: Do you think it's crazy though? This is this is

570
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 1: we're getting way off. But I think some of the

571
00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:34,199
Speaker 1: best players I played with were a little there were

572
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:35,399
Speaker 1: a little bit liability, you know.

573
00:23:35,400 --> 00:23:38,720
Speaker 3: What I'm saying, Like you did not have if you

574
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,960
Speaker 3: got a football team, not the choir section.

575
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:44,399
Speaker 2: Everybody with everybody can't be the choir section where you was.

576
00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,080
Speaker 2: It has to be my new you cannot.

577
00:23:47,400 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: You gotta have a couple of guys that you're like,

578
00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:51,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's gonna show up to the

579
00:23:51,520 --> 00:23:55,520
Speaker 3: game tomorrow, but if he does, if he does, he

580
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,400
Speaker 3: is going to show out.

581
00:23:57,560 --> 00:23:58,840
Speaker 2: You gotta have the ballance.

582
00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:01,399
Speaker 4: That's how I knew how different we was. When we

583
00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:02,840
Speaker 4: had On, I loved.

584
00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:03,080
Speaker 2: Going to death.

585
00:24:03,200 --> 00:24:05,240
Speaker 4: See, I'm one of those guys that can appreciate coachs

586
00:24:05,240 --> 00:24:07,480
Speaker 4: on because On told me I gotta get you the

587
00:24:07,520 --> 00:24:10,600
Speaker 4: ball when you're a receiver, and the coach understands because

588
00:24:10,600 --> 00:24:11,280
Speaker 4: he was a quarterback.

589
00:24:11,359 --> 00:24:13,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm getting you the ball. So I was cool.

590
00:24:13,520 --> 00:24:15,520
Speaker 2: But the only thing that he that I say, I

591
00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,359
Speaker 2: say I can kind.

592
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,360
Speaker 4: Of draw the line with when he wanted all us

593
00:24:18,359 --> 00:24:20,720
Speaker 4: to be, Hey, don't you want to be more like

594
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 4: that guy?

595
00:24:21,359 --> 00:24:24,720
Speaker 2: No, I'm cool with him being him. You can't ask

596
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:28,800
Speaker 2: everybody to join that. You gotta have different circles.

597
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:30,679
Speaker 4: And it was funny because, like we always show these

598
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:33,320
Speaker 4: stories about the locker room. You're gonna get the guys

599
00:24:33,280 --> 00:24:34,840
Speaker 4: who go to the Bobby study over there. You're gonna

600
00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:38,280
Speaker 4: get the guys over there who just rocked out they

601
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 4: want to do. You're gonna get the guys who are

602
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,479
Speaker 4: talking about the stocks and the bards over here. You're

603
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:44,080
Speaker 4: gonna get the fresh, smooth circle over here that last night.

604
00:24:45,800 --> 00:24:47,959
Speaker 4: And then you got certain guys like myself that can

605
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 4: navigate in every circle, you know what I mean. So

606
00:24:49,840 --> 00:24:51,760
Speaker 4: you have those guys that I could I could get

607
00:24:51,760 --> 00:24:54,920
Speaker 4: into I'm a commellon. I can fit in with everybody,

608
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:58,600
Speaker 4: but you can't get the whole room to be the same.

609
00:24:58,640 --> 00:24:59,639
Speaker 2: You know, you don't have that.

610
00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:01,919
Speaker 4: You got to have different characters on your team, and

611
00:25:01,920 --> 00:25:04,119
Speaker 4: that's what makes you win. We allow you to go

612
00:25:04,160 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 4: out there and have a team that you have successful teams.

613
00:25:06,480 --> 00:25:08,440
Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, I think that's like, that's what makes

614
00:25:08,440 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 1: a good coach. That's what makes a good leadership is

615
00:25:10,400 --> 00:25:13,000
Speaker 1: understanding that, Like he's a little bit different, You're a

616
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:14,480
Speaker 1: little bit different, but I know how to speak to

617
00:25:15,080 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 1: through happened. That was really interesting kind of detour there

618
00:25:18,760 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 1: one last question about of action though, Well we ever

619
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,480
Speaker 1: see anybody like him in DC again?

620
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:28,040
Speaker 2: Yes, I just named you three d did the same.

621
00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,720
Speaker 1: No, No, what I'm saying so like, so what I'm

622
00:25:31,720 --> 00:25:34,280
Speaker 1: saying it's like he So you mentioned Dale Green, Yeah,

623
00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:38,159
Speaker 1: I forget what you mentioned Darye Green. And so what

624
00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:42,720
Speaker 1: I'm saying Ov is maybe the second best hockey player

625
00:25:42,840 --> 00:25:46,560
Speaker 1: in the history of the NHL. And so like it's different, Like.

626
00:25:47,119 --> 00:25:48,760
Speaker 2: You're saying the hierarchy is different.

627
00:25:48,920 --> 00:25:51,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like he played for twenty years, Like he's a

628
00:25:51,480 --> 00:25:52,880
Speaker 1: first rout Hall of Famer.

629
00:25:52,880 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: Like dominate his sport, he said, And I got.

630
00:25:54,880 --> 00:25:57,360
Speaker 1: One in mind. I got one that could maybe do it.

631
00:25:57,800 --> 00:25:59,760
Speaker 2: I think that's playing right now, that's playing right now.

632
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:02,600
Speaker 2: I say this, I said, will be. I just can't

633
00:26:02,640 --> 00:26:03,200
Speaker 2: give you no name.

634
00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 3: Well, James Wood in baseball right now plays for the

635
00:26:07,359 --> 00:26:08,000
Speaker 3: National Seat.

636
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:10,600
Speaker 2: He's six', five two hundred and thirty.

637
00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:11,160
Speaker 1: Pounds.

638
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,720
Speaker 2: Damn he whips that bat like a.

639
00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 3: Maven but he also runs like he's five, three like he.

640
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:22,200
Speaker 2: Is a an old dealing.

641
00:26:22,400 --> 00:26:26,240
Speaker 3: Cruise like we got some young dudes out, here AND

642
00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:29,679
Speaker 3: i gotta go to. Baseball, yeah let's. Go i'll go

643
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 3: all the. Time you Got Jaydon. Dallions people gonna say

644
00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:34,879
Speaker 3: that's a that's a good, view like he.

645
00:26:35,000 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: Might actually that was the ONE i was thinking of

646
00:26:37,040 --> 00:26:39,320
Speaker 1: BECAUSE i. Watched i'm like what he did last year

647
00:26:39,400 --> 00:26:41,800
Speaker 1: was so. Special caw we handles himself off the off

648
00:26:41,800 --> 00:26:44,439
Speaker 1: the field is so, special like there's a there's a.

649
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:46,040
Speaker 2: Chance AND i got an if in.

650
00:26:46,080 --> 00:26:50,159
Speaker 3: There if The wizards continue to stink like they, stink

651
00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:51,359
Speaker 3: we can.

652
00:26:51,240 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 7: Get Cooper american Flag please don't try to name Him

653
00:26:56,520 --> 00:27:01,639
Speaker 7: american who ran over and flag. Boy we were talking

654
00:27:01,680 --> 00:27:05,399
Speaker 7: bad about him right. Now, Listen Duke gloss that's. Fine

655
00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:09,679
Speaker 7: but this dude showed that he is the. Truth and

656
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,640
Speaker 7: if we get him in this.

657
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: He's like seven to eighteen.

658
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 2: Eighteen and you, know we talked like we never meet

659
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:15,720
Speaker 2: anybody From.

660
00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:19,080
Speaker 3: Maine he From, maine all, right so him and his

661
00:27:19,160 --> 00:27:21,879
Speaker 3: three cousins that all live In, maine go come on.

662
00:27:22,040 --> 00:27:22,280
Speaker 1: Down.

663
00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,959
Speaker 3: Listen it's some guys THAT i think, young good. Talent

664
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:28,560
Speaker 3: we don't know the future with.

665
00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:31,840
Speaker 1: It say you just it's and it's so. HARD i

666
00:27:31,920 --> 00:27:34,959
Speaker 1: like the question because again he's he's like this is

667
00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:37,639
Speaker 1: like he's like The Lebron james of. Hockey, yeah, like

668
00:27:37,800 --> 00:27:39,600
Speaker 1: actually that's a really good COM i was gonna ask this.

669
00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:40,159
Speaker 2: Question this is the.

670
00:27:40,200 --> 00:27:47,160
Speaker 4: Question now thats with With ovi Surpassing, Gretzky, gretzy Is grettie.

671
00:27:46,800 --> 00:27:49,680
Speaker 2: Still the number? One like they're gonna Say gracie still number?

672
00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,040
Speaker 2: One because he.

673
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:54,879
Speaker 4: Is really WHAT i want to know Because i'm, like,

674
00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,000
Speaker 4: now is he the greatest hockey you know?

675
00:27:57,200 --> 00:27:57,440
Speaker 1: Player?

676
00:27:58,040 --> 00:27:59,600
Speaker 2: Always they?

677
00:27:59,640 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 1: Will?

678
00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:07,639
Speaker 3: Boy you, know how how how does it so does it?

679
00:28:07,720 --> 00:28:09,040
Speaker 1: Lie you know WHAT i? Mean When jason looks this,

680
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:12,280
Speaker 1: up you're gonna understand how good? Rescue so that this

681
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 1: double to assist a couple of, things a couple of.

682
00:28:16,640 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 1: Things so, basically like goalie play has gotten way, better,

683
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,080
Speaker 1: right the game has gotten. Better it's just a better.

684
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:24,879
Speaker 1: Quality but, Also gretzky did that with a flat, stick

685
00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,199
Speaker 1: so like you know they curve the sticks, down he

686
00:28:28,240 --> 00:28:31,520
Speaker 1: did it with a flat. Stick so the control that

687
00:28:31,640 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 1: he had with that stick is.

688
00:28:34,119 --> 00:28:36,520
Speaker 4: Incredible so it's almost like the guy who can control

689
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:37,960
Speaker 4: the messy, him you.

690
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:41,760
Speaker 1: Know, yeah and he, was and he was so far

691
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:44,760
Speaker 1: ahead of the game at the. Time like it's, hard

692
00:28:44,840 --> 00:28:46,280
Speaker 1: it's hard to. Quantify i'm trying to give a good.

693
00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,640
Speaker 1: Comparison it's like who.

694
00:28:47,520 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 2: It's like when it's he, know he Was Wilt.

695
00:28:50,360 --> 00:28:52,480
Speaker 1: Chamberlain that's, right that's. Exactly it was.

696
00:28:52,640 --> 00:28:55,640
Speaker 2: Unfair i'm taller than, You i'm faster than.

697
00:28:55,680 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 3: You don't the ball how many points go to day

698
00:28:59,280 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 3: hundred like, That like the game doesn't.

699
00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: Fit i'm like so outside of the, game it's so.

700
00:29:04,600 --> 00:29:07,440
Speaker 3: Big and the only thing that Made gritzky to me

701
00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,400
Speaker 3: all the Points i've heard over the last month is

702
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,080
Speaker 3: everybody always goes to his assists saying that he was

703
00:29:13,120 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 3: a more rounded player and ovi was a goal score.

704
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: Hunk which is not. Bad But i'm just saying, that

705
00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 1: and the other thing About, gretzky and this is probably

706
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:24,680
Speaker 1: how you feel About jordan to a certain, extent is

707
00:29:24,720 --> 00:29:28,160
Speaker 1: you don't have modern hockey Without, Gretzky like he changed

708
00:29:28,160 --> 00:29:29,920
Speaker 1: the way he changed the, game just like How jordan

709
00:29:30,080 --> 00:29:32,320
Speaker 1: changed a little. Bit, Yeah like it's it's that type of.

710
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:35,440
Speaker 2: Before your time because you don't remember this Man tanne

711
00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:36,320
Speaker 2: do the.

712
00:29:36,400 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 3: Cartoon oh, yeah Crazy, Griskin Bo jackson And Michael joy

713
00:29:42,280 --> 00:29:44,280
Speaker 3: on the conto introduced.

714
00:29:44,360 --> 00:29:47,040
Speaker 4: Us, yeah BECAUSE i, KNEW i knew nothing about hockey

715
00:29:47,080 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 4: UNTIL i watched.

716
00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:52,280
Speaker 5: That we Got Jason gregski's assist he has one, thousand

717
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 5: nine and sixty. Three What sovechkin has seven hundred and

718
00:29:56,720 --> 00:30:00,920
Speaker 5: twenty four right, now so one, thousand, yes, thousand nine

719
00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:03,440
Speaker 5: hundred and, sixties so he has.

720
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:04,040
Speaker 1: Like two thousand.

721
00:30:04,120 --> 00:30:05,720
Speaker 2: Thousands, yeah he.

722
00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:09,000
Speaker 5: His points are two, thousand eight hundred and fifty, seven.

723
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 4: Which is so in, hockey just safe to say in,

724
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 4: hockey that's not going to ever.

725
00:30:13,200 --> 00:30:15,600
Speaker 2: Go in, hockey assist is like a habit of.

726
00:30:15,800 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: You kind of a, point like the way you kind

727
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:18,840
Speaker 1: of like you how many like so when you say

728
00:30:18,840 --> 00:30:20,480
Speaker 1: how many points you? Got his assists and.

729
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah so this is what SEPARATES. Dm that's what

730
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 3: do that's one is the. Book, yeah so he was

731
00:30:27,560 --> 00:30:28,320
Speaker 3: he was A Lebron.

732
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,160
Speaker 2: James he was very Much. Lebron he Was. Lebron he

733
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: was More Magic johnson Than Michael.

734
00:30:32,640 --> 00:30:35,760
Speaker 4: Jordans But lebron has has more assists than a lot

735
00:30:35,760 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 4: of those guys who who was considered.

736
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:41,520
Speaker 1: Legal, yeah, yeah, Yeah so Obviously ave is really really

737
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:44,600
Speaker 1: a special, player really special for the. Area really excited

738
00:30:44,600 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: about what he's done and.

739
00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: It's my guy kind of what it means for grade, eight.

740
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:51,600
Speaker 1: Grade, eight grade. Eight, okay so now let's talk about some,

741
00:30:51,600 --> 00:30:53,640
Speaker 1: football all. Right so the kind of kind of a

742
00:30:53,640 --> 00:30:55,840
Speaker 1: slow time of year for. Football so we got rule

743
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,160
Speaker 1: change slow time because he just had THE Nfl owner

744
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,360
Speaker 1: owners meeting and they talked about rules and so got

745
00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 1: to go through some of the new, rules talk about

746
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: what we think of, them and we're going to finish

747
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:06,320
Speaker 1: with the rule that we think is the most interesting

748
00:31:06,480 --> 00:31:08,680
Speaker 1: that was actually pushed to a later time to talk.

749
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: About oh, right let's talking about the first. Rule playoff overtime.

750
00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:12,320
Speaker 2: Rules.

751
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: Now playoff overtime rules are now the way that they're

752
00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: going to handle regular season.

753
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 2: Overtime The Josh allen rule is WHAT i call. It it,

754
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:22,840
Speaker 2: is it's the.

755
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 3: Job they only did it because the guy can get

756
00:31:26,600 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 3: on the field because one patrick.

757
00:31:28,360 --> 00:31:30,640
Speaker 1: Bone BUT i think they always did this because they

758
00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:32,040
Speaker 1: wanted the games to be. Short do you think this

759
00:31:32,120 --> 00:31:32,720
Speaker 1: affects that at?

760
00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:37,400
Speaker 3: ALL i think it does because IF i know, Offensively

761
00:31:37,640 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 3: i'm gonna get that.

762
00:31:38,480 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 2: Chance, yeah it can stand the.

763
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: Game you, know at one point in, time when you

764
00:31:44,360 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 4: got in, overtime you didn't care about not getting the

765
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:47,480
Speaker 4: ball because.

766
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:47,840
Speaker 2: Whoever win the.

767
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:51,959
Speaker 4: COURSE i, Mean i'm just, saying but, nowadays LIKE i

768
00:31:52,000 --> 00:31:53,960
Speaker 4: want that ball BECAUSE i want to get a chance

769
00:31:53,960 --> 00:31:55,560
Speaker 4: to be you, know the score and getting them all

770
00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,960
Speaker 4: out of. There, now you, KNOW i think changing this

771
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 4: rule back gives you that the opportunity To, okay who comes,

772
00:32:01,480 --> 00:32:02,320
Speaker 4: down who cares.

773
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:02,440
Speaker 1: To get the.

774
00:32:02,440 --> 00:32:04,280
Speaker 4: Ball let's reset and let's go out there and have

775
00:32:04,520 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 4: a nice game plan because regardless of what they, do

776
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:08,120
Speaker 4: we're gonna get we get the.

777
00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,000
Speaker 1: Ball you think it matters in the regular, SEASON i

778
00:32:10,000 --> 00:32:12,680
Speaker 1: don't really think it, matters, Honestly like tie is a,

779
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 1: tie you know WHAT i. MEAN i don't, know this doesn't.

780
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: Matter just make it more.

781
00:32:16,360 --> 00:32:19,720
Speaker 3: FAIR i THINK i think it does because now gambling

782
00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 3: is so big the, game AND i think that drives

783
00:32:23,760 --> 00:32:25,840
Speaker 3: the think about. It they're putting the chip in the

784
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:29,040
Speaker 3: ball this, year so now the chain, game you know,

785
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:31,040
Speaker 3: what we used to see, it, LIKE i don't think

786
00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,040
Speaker 3: us we have never played a game without a chain,

787
00:32:34,080 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 3: game none of.

788
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:38,240
Speaker 2: Us it's in five, year that chain ain't gonna be.

789
00:32:38,280 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 4: Gone, Yeah SO i don't want to see that game

790
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i want to still see these see them walk out.

791
00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:45,800
Speaker 2: There and, say first.

792
00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 3: Down it's something to, that you know What i'm saying

793
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 3: some to, That AND i just don't, know even with

794
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:54,800
Speaker 3: the chip in the, ball how you're gonna spot it

795
00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: in a.

796
00:32:55,160 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 1: Pile so they so what they're doing is it's still

797
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,760
Speaker 1: a manual. Spot this is also a rule that they voted.

798
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:02,200
Speaker 1: On we're gonn talk about every we're talk about, Now

799
00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,720
Speaker 1: so basically now it's still a manual. Spot they're just

800
00:33:04,840 --> 00:33:08,320
Speaker 1: digitally measuring the. Chains, yeah does that make. Sense so

801
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:11,440
Speaker 1: what they're doing is they're essentially just trying to speed

802
00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:13,680
Speaker 1: up the. Game so instead of having to like call

803
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:16,720
Speaker 1: the chains, out here's the, spot you just buzz the.

804
00:33:16,760 --> 00:33:17,640
Speaker 1: Referee hey they're this.

805
00:33:17,800 --> 00:33:22,440
Speaker 3: Short but it's nothing like the exhilaration you get when

806
00:33:22,440 --> 00:33:25,240
Speaker 3: they try and get a standing in the ditch, shorty

807
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:26,320
Speaker 3: we own, Defense And.

808
00:33:26,240 --> 00:33:29,280
Speaker 1: I'm, like are we just old men? Though is that?

809
00:33:29,280 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 5: Why you Know tennis where they have like the eagle

810
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 5: thing where like the. Ball, yeah, yeah do you think

811
00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:38,120
Speaker 5: they'll like introduce that for entertainment? PURPOSE i have to

812
00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:40,960
Speaker 5: like just a slow pain of like a digital.

813
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:46,160
Speaker 2: Chain i'm about to throw up In, Yeah i'm about

814
00:33:46,200 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 2: to throw up in my. Mind you play techno in a,

815
00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:49,640
Speaker 2: GAME i.

816
00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:51,480
Speaker 1: Know you know when they you, know where they put

817
00:33:51,480 --> 00:33:52,640
Speaker 1: the rule, IN i was, like, oh this is gonna

818
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:53,920
Speaker 1: be good because they'll speed the game. Up BUT i

819
00:33:54,280 --> 00:33:57,160
Speaker 1: forget because the game is about, drama, yes, right and

820
00:33:57,240 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: it takes away some of the.

821
00:33:58,280 --> 00:33:58,600
Speaker 2: Drama.

822
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 5: Yeah as a, fan that's why this overtime rule is

823
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 5: amazing BECAUSE i want to See jayden touch the ball

824
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 5: and it, YEAH i don't want to see. It like

825
00:34:05,240 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 5: even though defense is just as important as, offense and

826
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,239
Speaker 5: like your defense can go win your, game still it's

827
00:34:10,239 --> 00:34:13,719
Speaker 5: more fun to See jayden out, there, right entertainment, Wise.

828
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:15,919
Speaker 3: Like, YEAH i say it's more of a, dual then

829
00:34:16,080 --> 00:34:19,279
Speaker 3: it becomes more of less made a bit man.

830
00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:20,480
Speaker 2: Win, yeah AND i, think.

831
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 1: Yeah SO i think the overtime rule it adds to the.

832
00:34:23,280 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 1: DRAMA i think the measuring rule takes away from the

833
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:28,560
Speaker 1: drama a little. Bit BUT i think they're also trying

834
00:34:28,600 --> 00:34:32,200
Speaker 1: to speak the game, up WHICH i. Appreciate All, right this,

835
00:34:32,239 --> 00:34:33,560
Speaker 1: ONE i think is really interesting AND i want to

836
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,000
Speaker 1: get your take on. This tandada touchback is moved now

837
00:34:36,000 --> 00:34:38,759
Speaker 1: to the thirty five yard, Line SO i think they're

838
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,200
Speaker 1: trying to promote more kickoff. Returns, honestly so you think,

839
00:34:41,239 --> 00:34:41,799
Speaker 1: good bad and.

840
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,120
Speaker 4: DIFFERENT i like, it but at the same, time when

841
00:34:44,160 --> 00:34:46,040
Speaker 4: you have a guy with a huge, leg it's, like,

842
00:34:46,560 --> 00:34:49,280
Speaker 4: damn so Now i'm telling you to kick it, shorter

843
00:34:49,360 --> 00:34:50,200
Speaker 4: you know What i'm, Saying.

844
00:34:50,840 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna take a little bit.

845
00:34:51,840 --> 00:34:54,640
Speaker 4: From what we got you here for just because we

846
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,120
Speaker 4: don't want to give them that thirty five yard, line you,

847
00:34:57,120 --> 00:34:59,960
Speaker 4: know and get them a touch. BACK i still like

848
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:02,600
Speaker 4: BECAUSE i feel, like you, know they changed the whole

849
00:35:02,640 --> 00:35:05,000
Speaker 4: style of the kick return for that reason for us

850
00:35:05,000 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 4: to see more, kickoffs kickoffs being, returned and to, ME

851
00:35:09,040 --> 00:35:11,719
Speaker 4: i think that's a part of the game that eventually

852
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,160
Speaker 4: we're talking about the, chain you, know being taken away from.

853
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:17,400
Speaker 4: Us it's gonna be guys losing the job if we

854
00:35:17,400 --> 00:35:19,520
Speaker 4: don't see guys out there returns, kicks you know WHAT i.

855
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:22,200
Speaker 1: Mean, so AND i actually like sair to. Me and

856
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 1: ACTUALLY i enjoyed the new kickoff rule last. YEAR i

857
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,000
Speaker 1: thought that was a, good good decision for the. Game

858
00:35:26,040 --> 00:35:28,960
Speaker 1: BUT i also like it wasn't the punishment for a

859
00:35:29,000 --> 00:35:31,440
Speaker 1: touchback wasn't. Significant it was still to the twenty. Five

860
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:33,839
Speaker 1: so now to move to the thirty. Five now there's

861
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,359
Speaker 1: a schematic game plan element associated with, it where, it's,

862
00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,319
Speaker 1: hey we got to be smarter about how deeper kicking.

863
00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:43,600
Speaker 1: It we're gonna kick it, High we're going to do directional. Kiss, yes,

864
00:35:43,719 --> 00:35:46,200
Speaker 1: well and SO i think that'll be. Again it Adds

865
00:35:46,600 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: it adds drama to a play that Was.

866
00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:51,040
Speaker 2: YEAH i was just want to say safe.

867
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:53,600
Speaker 4: Interests you have a week kickoff, team like you find

868
00:35:53,600 --> 00:35:55,520
Speaker 4: out throughout the year that we're still giving.

869
00:35:55,600 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 2: Up we're just not going to yeah that we would

870
00:35:58,680 --> 00:35:58,920
Speaker 2: like to.

871
00:35:59,760 --> 00:36:01,520
Speaker 4: Do you still, say, Man i'd rather get a touch

872
00:36:01,560 --> 00:36:04,080
Speaker 4: back on percent and see them guys at thirty, five

873
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:05,319
Speaker 4: you know WHAT i, Mean, like it's gonna be teams

874
00:36:05,360 --> 00:36:07,440
Speaker 4: that's going to see, say, MAN i rather opt out of. That,

875
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,840
Speaker 4: yeah put them at thirty. Five y'all defense good enough to.

876
00:36:09,840 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: Stop BUT i think that's what you look at last,

877
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:13,399
Speaker 1: year like we did not have a strong kickoff. KICKER

878
00:36:13,400 --> 00:36:14,799
Speaker 1: i think the guys had a good job kicking field

879
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:17,520
Speaker 1: goals when they had, too but like they built the

880
00:36:17,640 --> 00:36:18,520
Speaker 1: kickoff team.

881
00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 2: So that they NOT i can, say ain't some, breathe so.

882
00:36:22,440 --> 00:36:25,120
Speaker 1: Like we're ready For, yeah this commanders like it's good.

883
00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 5: Rule SO i Know i'm jumping in a. Lot i'm just, thought.

884
00:36:29,360 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 2: Do you think a.

885
00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,719
Speaker 5: Rule changed like, this and like the way that we're

886
00:36:32,719 --> 00:36:35,640
Speaker 5: doing kickoffs now help or hurt somebody Like Brian mitchell

887
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:36,440
Speaker 5: getting into The hall Of.

888
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 3: Fame, NO i think it helps Be mitch because just for,

889
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:44,840
Speaker 3: Example ickler Watching choler this year and we had a

890
00:36:44,880 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 3: debate before it started last year what position do we

891
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:50,279
Speaker 3: move back here to? Return and we was like it

892
00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 3: gotta be your third down running, back like it's more

893
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:56,120
Speaker 3: built for running. Backs now didn't receive, us but it

894
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: didn't stop turping from Chicag dallas from sailing at. It

895
00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 3: SO i thought he was. EXCITING i thought he brought

896
00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,920
Speaker 3: some more drama to. IT i actually liked, it.

897
00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:08,040
Speaker 1: BUT i think it, ALSO i think it helps Be

898
00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:10,279
Speaker 1: mitch stay. Relevant, yeah you, know because it's not you're

899
00:37:10,320 --> 00:37:12,799
Speaker 1: not talking about, like, oh remember back when we used

900
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 1: to do. Kickoffs how crazy was?

901
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:14,279
Speaker 3: That?

902
00:37:14,360 --> 00:37:17,040
Speaker 1: Oh You mitched who? Came, like now you see the

903
00:37:17,080 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: impact that he had every single, Week like it was

904
00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:22,560
Speaker 1: starting to kind of, wane, right kickoff returner not a big.

905
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,480
Speaker 1: Deal but now you see why that position deserves to

906
00:37:25,520 --> 00:37:27,839
Speaker 1: be like The Devin, hesters those, guys why they deserve

907
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: to be in that. Situation so the other one that's

908
00:37:30,600 --> 00:37:33,560
Speaker 1: interesting is replay assist on objective. Plays so this is

909
00:37:33,560 --> 00:37:37,440
Speaker 1: a little bit. Confusing so, basically if there's a if

910
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:40,040
Speaker 1: there's a, penalty they can pick up a.

911
00:37:40,080 --> 00:37:41,200
Speaker 2: Flag yeah they.

912
00:37:41,239 --> 00:37:43,920
Speaker 3: Can they can say way correct them, Sales, yes they

913
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:45,960
Speaker 3: can correct, themselves WHICH i actually.

914
00:37:45,840 --> 00:37:48,200
Speaker 4: Would have to us like three times last. Year, yeah

915
00:37:48,360 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 4: and it was it was against. Us it wasn't for

916
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:52,879
Speaker 4: us because it was a couple of. Times we can easily, say,

917
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,760
Speaker 4: hey go back and look at, that you, know but three.

918
00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 2: Times in a.

919
00:37:56,080 --> 00:37:58,279
Speaker 4: GAME i remember being at the game vividly sitting there

920
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,520
Speaker 4: frustrated Because i'm, like, bro how can you change that?

921
00:38:01,680 --> 00:38:05,000
Speaker 3: Call one person was in like seven accidents Zach. Ertz

922
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,920
Speaker 3: every time look, Up i'm, like remember to catch for

923
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 3: the first, down and they were, like he ain't getting

924
00:38:10,640 --> 00:38:11,320
Speaker 3: to the First i'm.

925
00:38:13,480 --> 00:38:14,200
Speaker 2: What are you talking?

926
00:38:14,239 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: About that about an interesting?

927
00:38:15,880 --> 00:38:20,560
Speaker 4: One that play cost us more so last year than

928
00:38:20,600 --> 00:38:22,720
Speaker 4: it was you, know you know when it came to helping.

929
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:24,600
Speaker 1: Us, honestly this is a Total this is a total.

930
00:38:24,640 --> 00:38:26,359
Speaker 1: Aside but if you have a chip in the ball

931
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: and you have a chip in the, sticks you should

932
00:38:29,080 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 1: be able to digitally say that get rid of the,

933
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,200
Speaker 1: SPOT i think is the thing THAT i want to.

934
00:38:33,239 --> 00:38:35,320
Speaker 1: See Right if that if that ball has a tracker

935
00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:37,000
Speaker 1: in it and there's two of, them one at each,

936
00:38:37,080 --> 00:38:38,680
Speaker 1: end and you know exactly where the ball, is they

937
00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:40,880
Speaker 1: can figure out where the knees, Down like that's how

938
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:42,840
Speaker 1: they should spot the. Football we're at a point now

939
00:38:42,840 --> 00:38:45,040
Speaker 1: where digitally we can do it and it would eliminate

940
00:38:45,120 --> 00:38:48,560
Speaker 1: all this kind of subjective whatever like still bring the sticks,

941
00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:51,319
Speaker 1: OUT i don't, care but this the subjectivity in those

942
00:38:51,360 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 1: big moments of the ball SPOT i think Needs that's

943
00:38:53,520 --> 00:38:55,360
Speaker 1: something THAT i think THE nfl can work on. CORRECTING

944
00:38:55,560 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 1: i know it's a, sign but so, YEAH i think

945
00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:00,640
Speaker 1: that's because the other thing about that rule that we

946
00:39:00,719 --> 00:39:03,960
Speaker 1: just talked about replay assistant objective plays is they cannot

947
00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:06,799
Speaker 1: assign a. Penalty you know What i'm. Saying they can

948
00:39:06,840 --> 00:39:08,520
Speaker 1: take they can pick a penalty. Up but let's, say for,

949
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: example they go back and review something and see something

950
00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,320
Speaker 1: and they see a bad, HOLD i CANNOT.

951
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 3: I, TOTALLY i totally understand which you can holding on every,

952
00:39:17,120 --> 00:39:17,719
Speaker 3: Place SO.

953
00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:19,680
Speaker 1: I can't give. That SO i think that'll be. INTERESTING

954
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,759
Speaker 1: i think that'll be. HELPFUL i think anytime you can

955
00:39:21,800 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: make it a little bit more transparent for the, fans

956
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,279
Speaker 1: like anytime a fan see something ON, tv BECAUSE i

957
00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,400
Speaker 1: will SAY i have a lot more empathy after watching

958
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 1: from the sideline last.

959
00:39:30,400 --> 00:39:31,640
Speaker 2: YEAR a lot of.

960
00:39:31,600 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 1: Stuff, happens a lot of stuff's, happening and people miss stuff,

961
00:39:34,840 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: Right and so to give those referees an opportunity to

962
00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:40,400
Speaker 1: kind of save face make that, CORRECTION i think is

963
00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:40,960
Speaker 1: the right. THING i.

964
00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 4: Think also that's the reason why you have certain guys

965
00:39:44,080 --> 00:39:46,400
Speaker 4: watching certain, things you know WHAT i. Mean you have

966
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:49,160
Speaker 4: people In New York i'm talking about like the rail

967
00:39:49,200 --> 00:39:52,240
Speaker 4: on the field watching the whole, game like you probably

968
00:39:52,239 --> 00:39:54,399
Speaker 4: watching a game like we are on the. Sideline they.

969
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,160
Speaker 4: WATCHING i gonna watch the. Ball i'm allowing wash back?

970
00:39:57,200 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 4: Here who's holding on this?

971
00:39:58,560 --> 00:39:59,200
Speaker 2: That you know WHAT i?

972
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:01,399
Speaker 4: Mean so you have guys and spots of the field

973
00:40:01,440 --> 00:40:03,440
Speaker 4: where they shouldn't miss some of the things that's in.

974
00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:05,080
Speaker 1: There i'm really glad you brought that up BECAUSE i

975
00:40:05,120 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 1: remember talking to alignsman AND i was, like what are you?

976
00:40:08,160 --> 00:40:09,919
Speaker 1: Watching because LIKE i was trying to figure out who's

977
00:40:09,920 --> 00:40:11,320
Speaker 1: gonna call me for? Holding really that's WHAT i was

978
00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,520
Speaker 1: trying to. Do and he was, Like i'm actually watching

979
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,600
Speaker 1: the first receiver and the end mant line of. Scrimmage,

980
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 1: yeah so it's even more narrow than the thin, Right

981
00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: and SO i do think that's a good. Point but,

982
00:40:21,440 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 1: again they're. People they're going to make. Mistakes, Ye so

983
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,120
Speaker 1: this gives, Them this gives the fans and them an

984
00:40:26,160 --> 00:40:29,000
Speaker 1: opportunity to make it. Right next, ONE i don't know

985
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,040
Speaker 1: HOW i feel about this. One thursday night games can

986
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:33,719
Speaker 1: be flexed on shorter. NOTICE i hate. It it used

987
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 1: to be twenty eight, days now was twenty, one AND i,

988
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:36,920
Speaker 1: agree that's WHY i hate.

989
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:42,880
Speaker 3: It thursday night games already adrid for players and now.

990
00:40:42,840 --> 00:40:45,440
Speaker 1: They So, jason they could be flexed To thursday night

991
00:40:45,680 --> 00:40:47,440
Speaker 1: flex away from flexed away From thursday.

992
00:40:47,480 --> 00:40:51,680
Speaker 5: Night it just says flexed on shorter. Notice so my guess,

993
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:52,319
Speaker 5: is like.

994
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 4: That is to say that you don't have A thursday night?

995
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 4: Game do they care to put me in A thursday night?

996
00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,040
Speaker 1: GAME i Think i'm hoping that's what it.

997
00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,960
Speaker 5: Is put to pull somebody, out you gotta put somebody.

998
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:05,799
Speaker 3: There like here and go like all, right let's forget the.

999
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 3: Players all, right the players already hated. It there's no.

1000
00:41:08,080 --> 00:41:10,920
Speaker 2: Secret what about? It If i'm the fan that has

1001
00:41:11,000 --> 00:41:11,839
Speaker 2: been playing in, this.

1002
00:41:11,880 --> 00:41:12,359
Speaker 1: That's a great.

1003
00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:16,560
Speaker 3: Point And i'm talking ABOUT i then brought my Travel,

1004
00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:20,120
Speaker 3: YEAH i, HED i got my, hotail and all.

1005
00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,680
Speaker 2: Of a, sudden my team play On. Sunday come, On

1006
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 2: like at one point it has to be some coin

1007
00:41:28,280 --> 00:41:30,880
Speaker 2: newity to. This NOW i know the networks is the

1008
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: year go.

1009
00:41:31,360 --> 00:41:33,400
Speaker 3: On one team is better than you thought it, Was

1010
00:41:33,480 --> 00:41:34,880
Speaker 3: one team is worse than you thought it.

1011
00:41:35,040 --> 00:41:38,560
Speaker 2: Was we picked a bad game With sland it. Stick

1012
00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:39,560
Speaker 2: so my question.

1013
00:41:39,360 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 4: Would, be you know how we always get that one

1014
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 4: game on our schedule that they SAY.

1015
00:41:43,120 --> 00:41:46,960
Speaker 2: Tbd will they have that already part of the.

1016
00:41:47,480 --> 00:41:50,200
Speaker 4: That thursday night saying WELL tvd so meaning telling us

1017
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,080
Speaker 4: us fans don't don't go out there by that ticket

1018
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 4: yet because we not we're not. SURE i, mean you

1019
00:41:55,560 --> 00:41:57,319
Speaker 4: have to give them some kind of leeway in. THAT

1020
00:41:57,440 --> 00:42:00,239
Speaker 4: i mean because if you just say we're locked in A,

1021
00:42:00,280 --> 00:42:02,759
Speaker 4: thursday we see our, schedule and then you're getting in week,

1022
00:42:02,840 --> 00:42:05,239
Speaker 4: five That thursday night game you had in week, eight

1023
00:42:05,400 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 4: it's changed now because of the way you.

1024
00:42:06,800 --> 00:42:08,440
Speaker 2: Plan, yeah you, KNOW i think it's.

1025
00:42:08,480 --> 00:42:10,920
Speaker 3: CRAZY i think about, this some of these cities that

1026
00:42:11,040 --> 00:42:13,879
Speaker 3: these teams are in a destination, Cities like somebody gonna

1027
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 3: look at it and, say, no this is a. Trip

1028
00:42:15,640 --> 00:42:17,600
Speaker 3: we're just gonna happen to go to the. Game let's

1029
00:42:17,600 --> 00:42:19,799
Speaker 3: just Say i'm going to The Raiders kids In city,

1030
00:42:19,880 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 3: game this In. Vegas i'm going To vegas as a.

1031
00:42:23,120 --> 00:42:26,040
Speaker 2: Vacation And i'm going to the. Game, Man i'm going

1032
00:42:26,080 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 2: to the. Game and now it ain't no.

1033
00:42:28,560 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: GAME i, mean even like even if you want to

1034
00:42:30,560 --> 00:42:32,400
Speaker 1: do like an historic city Like, lambeau, right and all

1035
00:42:32,400 --> 00:42:34,120
Speaker 1: of a sudden there's no game right and it's at

1036
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:36,600
Speaker 1: a different time or the change is. Different like it's

1037
00:42:37,400 --> 00:42:37,920
Speaker 1: this to.

1038
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:40,400
Speaker 8: Me, man get you to see some, Cheese, YEAH i,

1039
00:42:40,680 --> 00:42:44,680
Speaker 8: say get some meal walking Fly i'm up There this

1040
00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 8: one feels to me like a, mistake like a, network

1041
00:42:48,680 --> 00:42:49,800
Speaker 8: a network.

1042
00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:52,840
Speaker 2: That came from the higher, home like the money talks

1043
00:42:52,960 --> 00:42:53,360
Speaker 2: a lot.

1044
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:54,520
Speaker 1: Of some of. THESE i really like. This there are

1045
00:42:54,560 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 1: some of.

1046
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,359
Speaker 4: Those they got to put their shoe in their. Mind

1047
00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,200
Speaker 4: they'll go back and, say you know, what this don't.

1048
00:42:59,200 --> 00:42:59,759
Speaker 2: Work, yeah it.

1049
00:43:00,200 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: Work but it's like some of these feel like they're

1050
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,279
Speaker 1: actually helping the game. FLOW i know the. Game this

1051
00:43:04,320 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 1: one feels LIKE i want to make more. MONEY i

1052
00:43:06,239 --> 00:43:08,000
Speaker 1: want that work to make more. Money and those it's

1053
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:10,120
Speaker 1: a billion dollar, industry like these are some decisions that

1054
00:43:10,160 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: have to be. Made, okay this is a fun. ONE

1055
00:43:12,800 --> 00:43:14,359
Speaker 1: i don't really care about this, one BUT i think

1056
00:43:14,480 --> 00:43:17,840
Speaker 1: Maybe fred And santana, do maybe some fans. Do alternative

1057
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:20,960
Speaker 1: and throwback uniforms can be worn more. FREQUENTLY i love.

1058
00:43:21,000 --> 00:43:24,080
Speaker 3: IT i love that you look, good you look, good feel,

1059
00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,560
Speaker 3: good play, good get paid. Good they're just the wind.

1060
00:43:26,640 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 3: Goes AND i like some of the. THROWBACKS i. ENJOY

1061
00:43:31,000 --> 00:43:33,040
Speaker 3: i think it makes you think about the older players

1062
00:43:33,080 --> 00:43:34,600
Speaker 3: WHEN i see the younger players wear.

1063
00:43:34,640 --> 00:43:39,160
Speaker 2: Them. UH i always hated the league telling us what we.

1064
00:43:39,120 --> 00:43:41,880
Speaker 3: Can't, wear you, know or when we'll win to weird

1065
00:43:42,000 --> 00:43:44,120
Speaker 3: like don't tell me THAT i.

1066
00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,399
Speaker 4: Need you're talking to the father of The Color. Rush

1067
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,360
Speaker 4: we spend this money on these. JERSEYS i want TO

1068
00:43:49,400 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 4: i want to bring them out.

1069
00:43:50,239 --> 00:43:54,120
Speaker 3: Tonight like LIKE i, said you, know AS i gently,

1070
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:55,279
Speaker 3: SAID i started The Color.

1071
00:43:55,320 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 2: Rush you ain't.

1072
00:43:57,960 --> 00:44:01,200
Speaker 3: You was on the team that wore that war was

1073
00:44:01,239 --> 00:44:03,720
Speaker 3: the person that as Coach, gibbs but can't.

1074
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,920
Speaker 2: We wait this burgery At by And? Burgundy and he was, like,

1075
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: yes before you know, it the next year it's A

1076
00:44:08,760 --> 00:44:10,799
Speaker 2: Color rush. Week that's All i'm, saying.

1077
00:44:10,880 --> 00:44:13,080
Speaker 1: Dude fred reminds me of like that. Purse like there's

1078
00:44:13,160 --> 00:44:15,160
Speaker 1: like a subtle person in history that has a big,

1079
00:44:15,160 --> 00:44:18,439
Speaker 1: effect you, know Like fred Got Joe gibbs. Back fred

1080
00:44:18,520 --> 00:44:19,440
Speaker 1: started the Color.

1081
00:44:26,160 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 2: Coast and you just get it all stirred.

1082
00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:28,239
Speaker 6: Up.

1083
00:44:28,320 --> 00:44:39,480
Speaker 1: Right did you guys have a favorite jersey that you.

1084
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:45,279
Speaker 4: Are, BURGAY i like the when we was playing ill Last.

1085
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:48,200
Speaker 4: YEAH i like the little yellow. Pants so it didn't

1086
00:44:48,200 --> 00:44:50,280
Speaker 4: matter what jersey putting on top of. HIM i preferred

1087
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:52,719
Speaker 4: to burgundy on, top but we wore the white and.

1088
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:54,759
Speaker 3: They was just a Smooth SO i like when we

1089
00:44:54,800 --> 00:44:58,160
Speaker 3: wore the uh oh that it was a different type

1090
00:44:58,160 --> 00:45:00,160
Speaker 3: of burguney with the spear on the hispory on him

1091
00:45:00,560 --> 00:45:02,560
Speaker 3: and it was like the gold pants were like brown,

1092
00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:05,960
Speaker 3: round that's What that was one of my favorite. Throwbacks that's.

1093
00:45:06,040 --> 00:45:08,319
Speaker 3: Yeah SO i enjoyed red rocking those right.

1094
00:45:08,320 --> 00:45:09,759
Speaker 1: There and you've been a fan for a long, time

1095
00:45:09,800 --> 00:45:13,279
Speaker 1: did you have a? Favorite, yeah that's my favorite About.

1096
00:45:13,760 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 5: Yeah but the thing that they haven't here is alternative,

1097
00:45:16,719 --> 00:45:18,680
Speaker 5: jerseys so like it doesn't have to be implemented this,

1098
00:45:18,760 --> 00:45:21,040
Speaker 5: year but this is a good time to just try new,

1099
00:45:21,080 --> 00:45:23,680
Speaker 5: Stuff like have we ever done like maybe it will look,

1100
00:45:23,760 --> 00:45:25,000
Speaker 5: terrible but we ever done all?

1101
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: Gold or Like.

1102
00:45:26,080 --> 00:45:28,800
Speaker 2: I've been to gold for, Honey i'm talking about. Gold

1103
00:45:29,960 --> 00:45:30,839
Speaker 2: i'm talking about gold.

1104
00:45:30,920 --> 00:45:34,279
Speaker 3: Jersey i'm talking about fourteen Carry bruno mar singing when

1105
00:45:34,280 --> 00:45:34,719
Speaker 3: we come out.

1106
00:45:34,800 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: HERE i like in there, though that's just.

1107
00:45:36,760 --> 00:45:39,280
Speaker 4: Me we actually wore the gold helms one year THAT

1108
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:40,759
Speaker 4: i think that was two thousand and.

1109
00:45:40,800 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 2: Six but did you go go?

1110
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 4: Back we go pants white jerseys and go him now

1111
00:45:45,640 --> 00:45:47,640
Speaker 4: remember that with THE r, right BECAUSE i got a

1112
00:45:47,640 --> 00:45:49,719
Speaker 4: picture of me like this doing the freaking first down

1113
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:50,040
Speaker 4: with THE.

1114
00:45:50,200 --> 00:45:50,920
Speaker 2: R i remember.

1115
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:55,200
Speaker 1: THAT i don't remember any of the, picture all, Right so,

1116
00:45:55,440 --> 00:45:57,640
Speaker 1: jerseys that's, fun all, right, now let's get into risk

1117
00:45:57,680 --> 00:45:59,920
Speaker 1: it for the, biscuit and it's the touch push and

1118
00:46:00,120 --> 00:46:02,919
Speaker 1: push it to this moment because it's a touch. Push,

1119
00:46:03,040 --> 00:46:06,120
Speaker 1: yes gotta like and that is presented By marsha Bo Lennon.

1120
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:09,200
Speaker 1: Agency you're a partner in risk And people's. Strategies. Okay

1121
00:46:09,320 --> 00:46:12,440
Speaker 1: so basically they're trying to get rid of the touch

1122
00:46:12,480 --> 00:46:15,120
Speaker 1: push and it was opposed by The Green Bay packers

1123
00:46:15,440 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 1: and they decided to table it for future owners. Meetings, yeah.

1124
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,400
Speaker 1: Okay and so there are three arguments around, it AND

1125
00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:25,439
Speaker 1: i kind of think they're all except for. One they're

1126
00:46:25,480 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: all kind of bush. LEAGUE i kind of think they're

1127
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 1: all bush league except for. One so what is it's

1128
00:46:29,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: unsafe it? IS i don't think first of, all is

1129
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:33,879
Speaker 1: it more unsafe than Anything it's.

1130
00:46:33,840 --> 00:46:35,040
Speaker 2: Written in the rule.

1131
00:46:35,120 --> 00:46:39,319
Speaker 3: Books no offensive player can hip another offensive player move

1132
00:46:39,440 --> 00:46:42,240
Speaker 3: forward by Pushing neil, Again.

1133
00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:46,560
Speaker 1: So to, me that gets to the second point. UNSAFE

1134
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:49,040
Speaker 1: i don't think it's any like, like if you want

1135
00:46:49,080 --> 00:46:51,560
Speaker 1: to talk about kickoffs are, Unsafe catching a ball over

1136
00:46:51,600 --> 00:46:53,840
Speaker 1: the middle field is, Unsafe but it's part of the, game,

1137
00:46:53,960 --> 00:46:55,960
Speaker 1: Right AND i think that's Where but the thing that

1138
00:46:56,000 --> 00:47:01,320
Speaker 1: you said is that it's. Unfair, yeah there's some steam.

1139
00:47:01,360 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: There it's not.

1140
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:03,040
Speaker 1: Fair there's. Steam it's.

1141
00:47:03,160 --> 00:47:06,840
Speaker 3: Unfair and to me to pile up that many people

1142
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:11,680
Speaker 3: in this little, area it's unsafe to, Me like y'all

1143
00:47:11,719 --> 00:47:14,359
Speaker 3: don't feel like my defensive my detacker is going through.

1144
00:47:14,360 --> 00:47:17,160
Speaker 3: It but me as a defensive, Player i'm seeing them

1145
00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:19,560
Speaker 3: get off the ground, Slow i'm seeing them get their

1146
00:47:19,680 --> 00:47:20,560
Speaker 3: nick bent up in.

1147
00:47:20,600 --> 00:47:23,799
Speaker 2: There i'm seeing them for the. OFFENSIVE i look at

1148
00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: it like.

1149
00:47:24,080 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 4: This if you're going to say that you're going to

1150
00:47:26,200 --> 00:47:29,880
Speaker 4: emphasize or say put an emphas on safety in this,

1151
00:47:30,040 --> 00:47:33,520
Speaker 4: league then you already know this place shouldn't be allowed

1152
00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:36,840
Speaker 4: because you're saying that what these guys are fighting for,

1153
00:47:36,960 --> 00:47:38,759
Speaker 4: now a lot of these retired men is fighting for

1154
00:47:38,800 --> 00:47:42,120
Speaker 4: when it comes to concussions and all that. Stuff put like,

1155
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:44,120
Speaker 4: this you can just play football as a d line

1156
00:47:44,200 --> 00:47:46,440
Speaker 4: the offensive lineman and be one of those guys that's

1157
00:47:46,440 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 4: sitting out there SAYING i need some, MONEY i need

1158
00:47:48,320 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 4: something Because i'm not. Right so why would you allow

1159
00:47:51,120 --> 00:47:53,600
Speaker 4: this on top of what you're already fighting for now

1160
00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:55,800
Speaker 4: trying to not give those guys that's saying that that

1161
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:57,080
Speaker 4: they don't.

1162
00:47:56,880 --> 00:47:59,520
Speaker 2: Deserve that they're going to deserve it now that they're

1163
00:47:59,560 --> 00:47:59,759
Speaker 2: going to.

1164
00:47:59,760 --> 00:48:02,480
Speaker 1: Deserve so this is we're getting a little technical here

1165
00:48:02,480 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 1: with like. Technical so WHAT i say this too is

1166
00:48:06,280 --> 00:48:08,640
Speaker 1: like when you play in the, line WHICH i did

1167
00:48:08,680 --> 00:48:12,040
Speaker 1: right for a long, time every play is it is a,

1168
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:16,319
Speaker 1: collision like is a big helmet to, helmet like the thing,

1169
00:48:16,440 --> 00:48:18,680
Speaker 1: Right and so in some ways when you're, CLOSE i

1170
00:48:18,719 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: got a sneak for, example Like i've never done a toush,

1171
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:24,839
Speaker 1: bush but on a traditional quarterback sneak it's actually a little,

1172
00:48:24,880 --> 00:48:27,719
Speaker 1: bit a little bit less impactful because you're kind of

1173
00:48:27,760 --> 00:48:28,279
Speaker 1: like working an.

1174
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:28,720
Speaker 2: Edge.

1175
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:32,160
Speaker 1: Now the way they do it for the, Center i'm

1176
00:48:32,200 --> 00:48:34,919
Speaker 1: sure is a, nightmare, nightmare nightmare for the center because

1177
00:48:34,960 --> 00:48:37,840
Speaker 1: he's he's actually tunneling underneath. There So i'm sure that

1178
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,640
Speaker 1: does not feel. Great, Yeah but but on the, whole

1179
00:48:43,000 --> 00:48:44,759
Speaker 1: the sneak for the perimeter guys tends to be a

1180
00:48:44,800 --> 00:48:47,440
Speaker 1: little bit, easier you, know, tackle you, know even. Guards

1181
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,200
Speaker 1: but SO i Understand tannis point, Though LIKE i understand your,

1182
00:48:50,200 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 1: point but to, me it's if you want, to like

1183
00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,239
Speaker 1: iso like an io play with a full back of the,

1184
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,880
Speaker 1: linebacker it's probably one of the most unsafe things you can.

1185
00:48:56,920 --> 00:49:00,799
Speaker 1: Do and it's really, unsafe but it's it's kind of

1186
00:49:00,840 --> 00:49:03,200
Speaker 1: part of the fabric of the, game, Right and so

1187
00:49:03,640 --> 00:49:06,120
Speaker 1: that to me is like where this kind of lies

1188
00:49:06,440 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 1: just from like AN o line, perspective like this is

1189
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,439
Speaker 1: people run quarterback. Sneaks it's a very physical, play all.

1190
00:49:12,400 --> 00:49:14,600
Speaker 4: Right this is WHAT i lean on then unfair part of.

1191
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:17,120
Speaker 4: It more, so this is WHERE i. THINK i feel,

1192
00:49:17,120 --> 00:49:19,000
Speaker 4: like if you're going to allow somebody offense to me to,

1193
00:49:19,000 --> 00:49:20,640
Speaker 4: push then defense would be to do the.

1194
00:49:20,640 --> 00:49:20,799
Speaker 1: Same.

1195
00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah to, me it is R rugby is not

1196
00:49:24,760 --> 00:49:28,959
Speaker 3: a popular. Sport nobody watches, rugby and.

1197
00:49:28,880 --> 00:49:32,360
Speaker 2: You brought this it's not as popular, Here.

1198
00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 3: Yes you, do because you're ogre check this. Out that's

1199
00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,640
Speaker 3: why you don't care about the test push me as a,

1200
00:49:39,680 --> 00:49:43,759
Speaker 3: player IF i just went three, plays if we stop you,

1201
00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:44,920
Speaker 3: out we stop you.

1202
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 1: Enough so this is where this is WHERE i think it's.

1203
00:49:48,080 --> 00:49:51,160
Speaker 1: Beautiful let me to explain. Why because THE nfl is

1204
00:49:51,200 --> 00:49:53,480
Speaker 1: an offensive driven, league right and all of a, sudden

1205
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,400
Speaker 1: you've given the offense an opportunity with a seventy eight

1206
00:49:56,480 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: percent efficiency rate to stay on the field and keep

1207
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:02,040
Speaker 1: that offensive drive. Going you can See Jalen Hurts, MOORE

1208
00:50:02,040 --> 00:50:03,680
Speaker 1: i can see A. J Brown moore AND i get

1209
00:50:03,719 --> 00:50:05,920
Speaker 1: to challenge the defense in a way that's never been

1210
00:50:06,000 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 1: challenged before in THE. Nfl so it is an exciting.

1211
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,240
Speaker 1: Thing y'all got enough. Rules it's meant for y'all.

1212
00:50:11,280 --> 00:50:13,759
Speaker 3: ALREADY i, mean, off they got us as deep as

1213
00:50:13,800 --> 00:50:14,520
Speaker 3: the bets we might.

1214
00:50:14,560 --> 00:50:16,200
Speaker 2: Have well just go out there and turn around and Get.

1215
00:50:16,239 --> 00:50:18,560
Speaker 2: Burt guess what this.

1216
00:50:18,640 --> 00:50:20,839
Speaker 1: Is this is for, me an offensive, Player tanne, Right

1217
00:50:20,920 --> 00:50:23,719
Speaker 1: i'm an offensive. PLAYER i like the offensive. Football be

1218
00:50:23,719 --> 00:50:26,400
Speaker 1: better on first and second, Down, fred be, better be,

1219
00:50:26,480 --> 00:50:28,759
Speaker 1: better make it a third and make it a third and.

1220
00:50:28,760 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 3: Five well you just run ba boas See ken the

1221
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:33,000
Speaker 3: best MAN wi how about you run?

1222
00:50:33,000 --> 00:50:37,360
Speaker 2: Off? Runoff what about you just do a regular quarterback?

1223
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,920
Speaker 2: Sneak how about you do? That you know? What let

1224
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,000
Speaker 2: me say, this we was better on fourth bound Than

1225
00:50:42,080 --> 00:50:42,839
Speaker 2: neil if.

1226
00:50:42,800 --> 00:50:45,080
Speaker 1: We never ran a too. Push that's a great. Point

1227
00:50:45,400 --> 00:50:47,120
Speaker 1: AND i think that's the. Thing that's the other thing

1228
00:50:47,160 --> 00:50:49,640
Speaker 1: about this play is there is an element of skill to,

1229
00:50:49,680 --> 00:50:52,040
Speaker 1: it because everybody in the league could run this, Play

1230
00:50:52,360 --> 00:50:53,080
Speaker 1: but who runs it the?

1231
00:50:53,080 --> 00:50:56,600
Speaker 2: Best running they got they got the.

1232
00:50:56,600 --> 00:51:01,080
Speaker 1: Best they've got a great, Line they've got a great.

1233
00:51:01,160 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: Line they've got a big. Quarterback but if if if

1234
00:51:03,640 --> 00:51:06,399
Speaker 1: it wasn't this is the, thing if everyone was doing,

1235
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:09,200
Speaker 1: It i'd be, like, yes it's, unfair but they're the

1236
00:51:09,239 --> 00:51:12,719
Speaker 1: only team that's been able to they're bad at.

1237
00:51:12,760 --> 00:51:16,040
Speaker 2: It we're just coming about. It but that's the.

1238
00:51:16,080 --> 00:51:19,120
Speaker 1: Point it's they have they have found an edge and

1239
00:51:19,160 --> 00:51:21,319
Speaker 1: they've gotten good at this. Play and know if it

1240
00:51:21,360 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 1: was if it was if.

1241
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 2: It was out physively. Rotten AND i just feel, like

1242
00:51:28,080 --> 00:51:28,440
Speaker 2: fear is.

1243
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:29,680
Speaker 1: Fair you feel What i'm.

1244
00:51:29,680 --> 00:51:32,680
Speaker 4: Saying i'm all day.

1245
00:51:32,960 --> 00:51:35,480
Speaker 1: Fear if the defense is not allowed to, push the

1246
00:51:35,560 --> 00:51:36,680
Speaker 1: offense should not be allowed to.

1247
00:51:36,680 --> 00:51:39,759
Speaker 2: Push that's that. Is See i'm about to Go, Frank

1248
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:45,120
Speaker 2: yeah about. You i'm about to Go.

1249
00:51:45,239 --> 00:51:49,360
Speaker 1: Frank but it's it's to, me it's not it's it's

1250
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:52,040
Speaker 1: in some ways it's a it's they figured out how

1251
00:51:52,040 --> 00:51:53,720
Speaker 1: to do it better than everybody, else and it's fishing everybody.

1252
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:57,839
Speaker 1: Off now it's not. Fair and so that's WHERE i

1253
00:51:57,840 --> 00:52:01,040
Speaker 1: said two of those three things are. TOTAL i think

1254
00:52:01,080 --> 00:52:03,400
Speaker 1: the fairness, One i'm one hundred percent on board.

1255
00:52:03,200 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: With hats off to. Them trust.

1256
00:52:04,560 --> 00:52:08,200
Speaker 4: Me last YEAR i had NO i had no problem

1257
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 4: with seeing them. Efficient it's not trying to find a

1258
00:52:12,320 --> 00:52:14,640
Speaker 4: word FOR i had no problem with seeing them be

1259
00:52:14,840 --> 00:52:18,040
Speaker 4: as productive with that play, then you know as they.

1260
00:52:18,080 --> 00:52:19,719
Speaker 4: Were you, KNOW i MEAN i feel like every time

1261
00:52:19,719 --> 00:52:21,359
Speaker 4: they lined up And i'm, like, oh it's gonna be a,

1262
00:52:21,360 --> 00:52:22,479
Speaker 4: touchdown you, KNOW i.

1263
00:52:22,440 --> 00:52:23,160
Speaker 1: Just gonna be a first.

1264
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,239
Speaker 2: Down my only stance on.

1265
00:52:25,280 --> 00:52:28,239
Speaker 4: It LIKE i said, before how could you tell us

1266
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:30,440
Speaker 4: on the other, side If i'm a defensive, player.

1267
00:52:30,400 --> 00:52:33,200
Speaker 2: THEN i can't get behind my linemen and push. Them

1268
00:52:33,320 --> 00:52:37,200
Speaker 2: it don't make. Sense so, look hats off to.

1269
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:38,960
Speaker 4: You you guys went out there and found a play

1270
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 4: that's going to put you over the top of everybody.

1271
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:42,919
Speaker 2: Else wish they did and didn't got to think about.

1272
00:52:42,920 --> 00:52:45,520
Speaker 4: It, also you're talking about us just being more efficient

1273
00:52:45,800 --> 00:52:48,719
Speaker 4: fourth down than them doing we. Did we also one

1274
00:52:48,719 --> 00:52:51,239
Speaker 4: of those teams that stopped them multiple times at their own,

1275
00:52:51,320 --> 00:52:53,640
Speaker 4: dayes see What i'm. Saying so they was finding different

1276
00:52:53,640 --> 00:52:54,799
Speaker 4: ways to do it against.

1277
00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:55,400
Speaker 2: Us because we were stopping.

1278
00:52:55,400 --> 00:52:58,400
Speaker 4: It but you just have to if you're saying this

1279
00:52:58,480 --> 00:53:01,239
Speaker 4: game has to be, fair trying to make everything fair

1280
00:53:01,320 --> 00:53:04,440
Speaker 4: enough for us to do things, defensively, offensively special teams,

1281
00:53:04,440 --> 00:53:06,720
Speaker 4: wise right, there that's where you draw the, line because

1282
00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:07,040
Speaker 4: it's not.

1283
00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:08,320
Speaker 2: Fair i'm about.

1284
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:11,600
Speaker 3: To go To gainesville and get this four hundred pounds

1285
00:53:12,360 --> 00:53:16,680
Speaker 3: the touch pushed off forwards his name watching the big,

1286
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:20,440
Speaker 3: dude there's four hundred and twenty two, pounds four forty.

1287
00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,160
Speaker 3: Years i'm going to bring him in here And i'm

1288
00:53:23,160 --> 00:53:24,479
Speaker 3: gonna hit him in the neck with An.

1289
00:53:24,600 --> 00:53:27,640
Speaker 1: Olympics that's been watching.

1290
00:53:27,440 --> 00:53:29,480
Speaker 2: Him, yeah it.

1291
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,480
Speaker 3: Turn into like man like four on foone And i'm gonna,

1292
00:53:33,480 --> 00:53:39,480
Speaker 3: say you got four plays every time we Play philadelphia.

1293
00:53:38,520 --> 00:53:40,520
Speaker 2: And when you come in, here just don't. Move, hey

1294
00:53:40,800 --> 00:53:41,800
Speaker 2: what if we do draft that?

1295
00:53:41,880 --> 00:53:45,200
Speaker 1: GEAR i mean'd be a. Creation but maybe this is

1296
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:45,480
Speaker 1: What i'm.

1297
00:53:45,480 --> 00:53:48,959
Speaker 3: SAYING i, guarantee, y'all somebody we need to talk today

1298
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,319
Speaker 3: after the. DRAFT i guarantee he get drafted by a

1299
00:53:51,320 --> 00:53:55,319
Speaker 3: team in THE nfcs for that one, play for that one.

1300
00:53:55,719 --> 00:53:58,319
Speaker 2: Purpose refrigerator get in. There they're gonna have a.

1301
00:53:58,360 --> 00:54:01,200
Speaker 3: Refrigerator get in there and stop then you know that.

1302
00:54:05,040 --> 00:54:07,239
Speaker 1: Friche the thing is THAT i like when you go

1303
00:54:07,280 --> 00:54:09,200
Speaker 1: back and watch all The tousch, pushes the people that

1304
00:54:09,280 --> 00:54:12,640
Speaker 1: are the best at stopping it are super, Quick Like

1305
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:17,120
Speaker 1: theron's really good at. It, Yeah Aaron donald the, punch

1306
00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,160
Speaker 1: they're beating the center and they're quick swimming the second.

1307
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:22,560
Speaker 2: And they're not big fall the details because there's actually.

1308
00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:25,040
Speaker 1: It's because they're beating the one the one guy you gotta,

1309
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:26,920
Speaker 1: be the one guy you got to, be and that's.

1310
00:54:26,760 --> 00:54:29,320
Speaker 3: The center because we don't seen this where he'll snap

1311
00:54:29,440 --> 00:54:34,000
Speaker 3: the ball and his first initial plunch doesn't work and

1312
00:54:34,040 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 3: then he gets pushed to the side with the guard.

1313
00:54:37,360 --> 00:54:40,600
Speaker 2: And that's where now they pushing, him and it's just.

1314
00:54:40,680 --> 00:54:44,280
Speaker 4: CRAZY i Think Tom brady was the best quarterback that

1315
00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 4: that that did. Quarterbacks he would get it and find

1316
00:54:47,560 --> 00:54:50,919
Speaker 4: the right little creast that he can just slide. Through

1317
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 4: and so WHEN i watched them do, It i'm, Like

1318
00:54:53,680 --> 00:54:56,759
Speaker 4: tom did it for years without all this mess with that.

1319
00:54:58,840 --> 00:55:01,080
Speaker 3: Very good and he's tall what you expect him not to.

1320
00:55:01,120 --> 00:55:03,640
Speaker 3: Be he was almost already going forward as soon as

1321
00:55:04,040 --> 00:55:04,600
Speaker 3: as soon as he.

1322
00:55:04,880 --> 00:55:07,399
Speaker 4: Got that, ball he was already beating the defense off

1323
00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:08,799
Speaker 4: their dog on you, know jump up the.

1324
00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:10,879
Speaker 2: Ball so, no BUT i just feel like it won pair.

1325
00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,800
Speaker 4: Man and LIKE i said, before you gotta get statically is.

1326
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:15,280
Speaker 4: Ug you gotta give Up philly.

1327
00:55:15,960 --> 00:55:17,920
Speaker 1: To stay on the field, Though and that's, good but

1328
00:55:18,120 --> 00:55:19,840
Speaker 1: it's not. Good it's good for.

1329
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:24,640
Speaker 2: Me we don't Keep john don't let ya man have my?

1330
00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:26,799
Speaker 2: Touchdown how is my rushing? Touchdowns was from?

1331
00:55:26,840 --> 00:55:28,839
Speaker 1: This it is crazy when you look at his, cutups it's,

1332
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,719
Speaker 1: like oh, man he's got ten rushing touchdowns and you're like.

1333
00:55:31,320 --> 00:55:34,400
Speaker 2: Nine are like?

1334
00:55:35,600 --> 00:55:39,640
Speaker 1: Nine So jason did a good job and he always

1335
00:55:39,680 --> 00:55:41,479
Speaker 1: does a great. Job but The eagles have scored twenty

1336
00:55:41,520 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: seven touchdowns and recorded ninety two total first downs the

1337
00:55:46,360 --> 00:55:48,920
Speaker 1: past three years on. This they shored eleven touchdowns with

1338
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: thirty two first downs during Their Super bowl run in

1339
00:55:51,560 --> 00:55:54,320
Speaker 1: twenty twenty. Four that's a lot of. Touchdowns eleven, touchdowns

1340
00:55:54,320 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 1: a lot of. Touchdowns AND i WAS i was trying

1341
00:55:56,120 --> 00:55:58,399
Speaker 1: to figure. OUT i was, like why Was sean Because

1342
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:01,080
Speaker 1: shawn's like heading this? Up why is he so pissed about?

1343
00:56:01,080 --> 00:56:02,719
Speaker 1: It and it's like because they lost in the?

1344
00:56:02,719 --> 00:56:06,160
Speaker 3: Playoff, Cat i'm ben, sake, listen somebody guys speak up about.

1345
00:56:06,160 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: This this travish, mockery this is is not part of

1346
00:56:10,400 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 2: it On so was It Green bay or The?

1347
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:15,000
Speaker 3: Rams Green bay through that hate through?

1348
00:56:15,239 --> 00:56:17,919
Speaker 1: Boys you know, What I'm i'm gonna be, like, hey, Yeah,

1349
00:56:17,960 --> 00:56:19,799
Speaker 1: Sean i'm, like, hey just put that out there for,

1350
00:56:19,880 --> 00:56:22,360
Speaker 1: me and Then i'm gonna carry this. Thing i'm gonna

1351
00:56:22,560 --> 00:56:23,759
Speaker 1: push myself across the gold.

1352
00:56:24,080 --> 00:56:28,840
Speaker 3: LISTEN i gotta, FEELING i gotta feeling they're going to band.

1353
00:56:28,880 --> 00:56:30,359
Speaker 2: DISPLAY i gotta feel.

1354
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:34,080
Speaker 1: Like the only THING i think you would change and

1355
00:56:34,120 --> 00:56:35,560
Speaker 1: it would make the play go, away it's just, say,

1356
00:56:35,560 --> 00:56:36,880
Speaker 1: hey offensive, players you cannot.

1357
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:39,759
Speaker 2: Push this used to be a. Rule steal the. Rule

1358
00:56:40,000 --> 00:56:42,000
Speaker 2: that's What i'm. SAYING i don't, steal.

1359
00:56:43,880 --> 00:56:46,359
Speaker 1: You, Cannot SO i don't. Understand that's WHERE i get

1360
00:56:46,360 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: confused by, this because it should not be.

1361
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:52,040
Speaker 2: Legal that's that's the thing that makes the play is.

1362
00:56:52,360 --> 00:56:55,439
Speaker 1: Push so the one of the one THING i thought

1363
00:56:55,440 --> 00:56:57,200
Speaker 1: they might be getting away with is that they're actually

1364
00:56:57,200 --> 00:57:00,200
Speaker 1: pushing the old. Lineman but they're they're. Putting And i've

1365
00:57:00,200 --> 00:57:01,680
Speaker 1: watched a bunch of them beause getting ready for the.

1366
00:57:01,680 --> 00:57:03,680
Speaker 1: Show they pushed the crab by the. Quarterback they pushed the.

1367
00:57:03,719 --> 00:57:06,319
Speaker 1: Quarterback if you're pushing the on, lineman that's fine if

1368
00:57:06,320 --> 00:57:06,879
Speaker 1: you're but.

1369
00:57:06,880 --> 00:57:07,520
Speaker 2: That ain't fair.

1370
00:57:07,600 --> 00:57:10,680
Speaker 1: Either but it's but it's in the purview of the.

1371
00:57:10,760 --> 00:57:13,879
Speaker 4: Rules we just gonna tell, them, man watch us on fourth.

1372
00:57:13,960 --> 00:57:15,360
Speaker 4: Down we're gonna show you how to go ahead a.

1373
00:57:15,400 --> 00:57:18,240
Speaker 1: MOVIE i will say like, That so everyone talks about

1374
00:57:18,280 --> 00:57:21,080
Speaker 1: how this is, unfair. RIGHT i think it was seventy eight, percent, Right,

1375
00:57:21,160 --> 00:57:25,360
Speaker 1: jason AND i Think washington, Commanders, yeah we're ninety, yeah

1376
00:57:25,720 --> 00:57:29,440
Speaker 1: or eighty three percent conversion, rate which is when you

1377
00:57:29,480 --> 00:57:31,960
Speaker 1: think put that in, context like that's.

1378
00:57:32,560 --> 00:57:33,360
Speaker 2: Time we was throwing the.

1379
00:57:33,360 --> 00:57:38,280
Speaker 3: Ball so but when you got A, jedi when you

1380
00:57:38,360 --> 00:57:39,280
Speaker 3: got A jedi.

1381
00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:43,400
Speaker 2: That can, force it makes it, Different like we.

1382
00:57:43,400 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 3: Don't need to like our quarterback is so good as a, Thrower,

1383
00:57:46,600 --> 00:57:50,320
Speaker 3: yeah that they have to say assignment first stopped the

1384
00:57:50,400 --> 00:57:52,240
Speaker 3: throwing and we rallied.

1385
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:53,280
Speaker 1: To the road and just he was special.

1386
00:57:53,280 --> 00:57:55,040
Speaker 4: Too, Yeah we've seen a lot of guys that can

1387
00:57:55,080 --> 00:57:57,960
Speaker 4: throw and that had others like that had his skill.

1388
00:57:58,000 --> 00:58:00,680
Speaker 4: SET i think what was that was best stood out From.

1389
00:58:00,760 --> 00:58:04,240
Speaker 4: Jaden he can dissect the. Open he can dissect a,

1390
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:06,600
Speaker 4: defense don't matter what you you you presented to.

1391
00:58:06,680 --> 00:58:08,720
Speaker 2: Him he found the open, guy you know WHAT i.

1392
00:58:08,720 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 4: Mean and he had a way about even if he's not,

1393
00:58:11,000 --> 00:58:14,720
Speaker 4: Open i'm gonna give him. Opportunity i'm gonna throw him.

1394
00:58:14,720 --> 00:58:16,880
Speaker 2: Open so that's what to, me that's that's his.

1395
00:58:17,000 --> 00:58:20,440
Speaker 4: Gift he can throw the ball exceptionally, well but he

1396
00:58:20,520 --> 00:58:22,960
Speaker 4: also threw guys open and to it at the right.

1397
00:58:23,000 --> 00:58:24,160
Speaker 2: Time. Spot you had.

1398
00:58:24,160 --> 00:58:26,439
Speaker 4: Guys you had guys like as soon as he put

1399
00:58:26,440 --> 00:58:28,480
Speaker 4: that foot in the, ground ball coming right, there you, Know.

1400
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:31,440
Speaker 2: Yeah he was. Good he was just got.

1401
00:58:31,520 --> 00:58:35,400
Speaker 5: Something, Yeah i'll fact check, myself RAD i, Promise BUT

1402
00:58:35,480 --> 00:58:37,760
Speaker 5: i actually think they changed a rule about five years

1403
00:58:37,760 --> 00:58:40,120
Speaker 5: ago that you can push it's a player at the

1404
00:58:40,120 --> 00:58:43,240
Speaker 5: line of, scrimmage and that's, why and that's why The

1405
00:58:43,320 --> 00:58:45,400
Speaker 5: eagles went and started Doing this.

1406
00:58:45,640 --> 00:58:52,640
Speaker 2: Doesn't shock, Me, jake Because i'll check every time we

1407
00:58:52,720 --> 00:58:56,080
Speaker 2: have this every. Year that's the.

1408
00:58:56,160 --> 00:59:00,120
Speaker 1: Case that makes. Sense, well, SO I i love defense of.

1409
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:02,920
Speaker 1: FOOTBALL i love watching the. DEFENSE i love good like

1410
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,760
Speaker 1: you know That Super bowl between The patriots and The

1411
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:07,680
Speaker 1: rams a couple years. Ago but, yeah but it was

1412
00:59:07,720 --> 00:59:11,600
Speaker 1: such a good defensive. Struggle every play was. Important most

1413
00:59:11,600 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: fans don't think of it that. Way like so when

1414
00:59:13,720 --> 00:59:15,320
Speaker 1: you ask fans what's the Best Super bowl last couple,

1415
00:59:15,360 --> 00:59:16,720
Speaker 1: years they're going to say that one where it was

1416
00:59:16,720 --> 00:59:17,360
Speaker 1: Like philly In New.

1417
00:59:17,400 --> 00:59:19,680
Speaker 4: England it was like it's like in, baseball they changed,

1418
00:59:19,720 --> 00:59:23,120
Speaker 4: things you know with the best they, shift they shift

1419
00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:25,600
Speaker 4: changed to they want they want to see, offense they

1420
00:59:25,640 --> 00:59:27,320
Speaker 4: want to see home, run they want to see balls

1421
00:59:27,360 --> 00:59:27,640
Speaker 4: here and.

1422
00:59:27,680 --> 00:59:29,040
Speaker 1: So that's where that's what the REASON i think this

1423
00:59:29,080 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: gets tabled is because it it makes for better. Offense

1424
00:59:32,680 --> 00:59:34,520
Speaker 1: it lets you stay on the, field lets you possess the,

1425
00:59:34,560 --> 00:59:35,760
Speaker 1: football AND i think THAT'S.

1426
00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,560
Speaker 5: I love Watching Frankie luvu try and stop. It so

1427
00:59:40,960 --> 00:59:42,480
Speaker 5: but then they said you can't do.

1428
00:59:42,560 --> 00:59:46,640
Speaker 1: That they, said you can do, it they say got

1429
00:59:46,800 --> 00:59:48,520
Speaker 1: so basically what it, was it was like they were

1430
00:59:48,520 --> 00:59:50,480
Speaker 1: gonna it was gonna be delay a. Game it's essentially

1431
00:59:50,480 --> 00:59:51,880
Speaker 1: what they were going to. Say and then if you

1432
00:59:51,920 --> 00:59:54,680
Speaker 1: get the delay a game, penalty we can now ward the.

1433
00:59:54,720 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 5: Score The eagles were hard counting them to get him

1434
00:59:57,720 --> 01:00:00,000
Speaker 5: to do. So so now you're at a point, where

1435
01:00:00,200 --> 01:00:04,000
Speaker 5: like you we, have we're allowed to push and you

1436
01:00:04,040 --> 01:00:05,840
Speaker 5: can't jump over hard.

1437
01:00:08,280 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 4: Or how about we say you can push toush but

1438
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,200
Speaker 4: you got to do it on, one, everybody it's fair.

1439
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:14,840
Speaker 1: Enough that would be that would make it.

1440
01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,520
Speaker 6: Easy you gotta do it on, one and we gotta

1441
01:00:17,680 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 6: we gotta have to sit there and wait because you

1442
01:00:22,360 --> 01:00:24,960
Speaker 6: can now get in that formation as offense and say

1443
01:00:25,000 --> 01:00:26,760
Speaker 6: we're gonna hike on two and we're gonna do something.

1444
01:00:26,760 --> 01:00:29,040
Speaker 2: Different we ain't gonna push. It you, know you gotta make.

1445
01:00:29,080 --> 01:00:30,920
Speaker 4: It to, ME i, say you have to make it

1446
01:00:30,960 --> 01:00:33,960
Speaker 4: even for the defense not to just sit there and

1447
01:00:33,960 --> 01:00:36,000
Speaker 4: get blowed off the ball because.

1448
01:00:36,120 --> 01:00:38,480
Speaker 2: Your heart counting us. One we can't get a jump

1449
01:00:38,640 --> 01:00:39,400
Speaker 2: and then you're getting.

1450
01:00:39,480 --> 01:00:42,080
Speaker 1: Pushed BUT i do think you brought this, Up, tanne

1451
01:00:42,200 --> 01:00:44,200
Speaker 1: like the commander stopped. IT i, think, yeah we have

1452
01:00:44,320 --> 01:00:46,320
Speaker 1: three times in that, game and then they stopped earlier

1453
01:00:46,360 --> 01:00:48,560
Speaker 1: in the. Year so there's a way to do. It

1454
01:00:48,560 --> 01:00:51,680
Speaker 1: it's just they've getting there getting every year they. Get

1455
01:00:51,720 --> 01:00:53,720
Speaker 1: they have like a little you, know pitch off of.

1456
01:00:53,760 --> 01:00:57,160
Speaker 3: It they got a hard care that wasn't riding apple

1457
01:00:58,160 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 3: to just spoiled a whole. Bunch that's what the disc all,

1458
01:01:01,920 --> 01:01:04,480
Speaker 3: right we got all these good plays.

1459
01:01:04,080 --> 01:01:09,120
Speaker 2: In this, One, rod it's. Play what's the place supposed to?

1460
01:01:09,160 --> 01:01:11,080
Speaker 2: Do you know what got us to the?

1461
01:01:11,120 --> 01:01:15,440
Speaker 3: League Santana malls Got Santana malls to the league, independently independent.

1462
01:01:15,480 --> 01:01:18,000
Speaker 3: Contract he didn't get here because somebody was pushing his.

1463
01:01:18,080 --> 01:01:24,720
Speaker 3: BUTTON i wondered where he was. Going we had coaches

1464
01:01:25,840 --> 01:01:26,280
Speaker 3: he got.

1465
01:01:26,320 --> 01:01:27,840
Speaker 2: HERE i mean his skill.

1466
01:01:28,000 --> 01:01:31,959
Speaker 3: Set nobody got pushed to the, League so why WOULD

1467
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,400
Speaker 3: i get to the. League you would think this doc

1468
01:01:34,480 --> 01:01:37,720
Speaker 3: bush league stuff happened in college where you can experience

1469
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:39,760
Speaker 3: it where everybody looking FOR i.

1470
01:01:39,680 --> 01:01:41,720
Speaker 1: Think the rules in college are still that you can't

1471
01:01:41,800 --> 01:01:45,160
Speaker 1: push forward at least somebody crazy like the remember that

1472
01:01:45,240 --> 01:01:47,000
Speaker 1: year that rule last year about the R po where

1473
01:01:47,000 --> 01:01:48,720
Speaker 1: it's like you can't have like, uh it was something

1474
01:01:48,720 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 1: where you can't like pitch the ball forward and then

1475
01:01:50,200 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: throw a past or whatever because they started doing in.

1476
01:01:52,240 --> 01:01:55,000
Speaker 1: College like it all started like because the rules in

1477
01:01:55,000 --> 01:01:57,760
Speaker 1: college were getting into. This like if you watch college

1478
01:01:57,880 --> 01:01:59,440
Speaker 1: Like Wake forest when they do that R po where

1479
01:01:59,480 --> 01:02:01,840
Speaker 1: it's like one one thousand and two one, thousand one,

1480
01:02:01,880 --> 01:02:04,880
Speaker 1: thousand and then there's people downfield like because they had

1481
01:02:04,920 --> 01:02:08,080
Speaker 1: to change that because of what they were doing. College but,

1482
01:02:08,480 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: ANYWAY i don't think there's anything wrong with. IT i

1483
01:02:10,920 --> 01:02:14,040
Speaker 1: THINK i just don't think there is skill to. It

1484
01:02:14,080 --> 01:02:17,000
Speaker 1: FRED i don't think me and on the same, page

1485
01:02:17,040 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: it's not fair IF i can't push as a defensive, player.

1486
01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:23,720
Speaker 2: You shouldn't be able to push his offense.

1487
01:02:23,800 --> 01:02:25,200
Speaker 1: Correct that's really what it boils.

1488
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:29,040
Speaker 3: Down think about quarterbacks from the pay it's a running backs.

1489
01:02:29,040 --> 01:02:31,720
Speaker 3: Front to pay is looking at these, like you, know

1490
01:02:31,760 --> 01:02:33,600
Speaker 3: how many people could have pushed me into the end

1491
01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:36,440
Speaker 3: though like usually afforded touchdowns on the.

1492
01:02:36,480 --> 01:02:38,200
Speaker 1: Take the only THING i keep coming back to is

1493
01:02:38,200 --> 01:02:41,680
Speaker 1: that no one else does it as good as, them

1494
01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:43,640
Speaker 1: so there is skill to.

1495
01:02:43,680 --> 01:02:45,560
Speaker 2: IT i know what it is to give you prop

1496
01:02:45,680 --> 01:02:47,720
Speaker 2: for me and the best cheater in the. ROOM i

1497
01:02:47,760 --> 01:02:49,400
Speaker 2: can't give you prop for finding a.

1498
01:02:49,440 --> 01:02:52,440
Speaker 1: LOOPHOLE i mean Every SO i think back to twenty

1499
01:02:52,480 --> 01:02:55,720
Speaker 1: twelve And kyle found a. Loophole he basically brought a

1500
01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,000
Speaker 1: college offense to THE, nfl and that was awesome.

1501
01:02:58,040 --> 01:03:00,640
Speaker 2: Offensive guess what this cow you do it at this

1502
01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:02,040
Speaker 2: call taking things to the next.

1503
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:05,800
Speaker 1: Level so nobody as an offensive play. Caller they took

1504
01:03:05,800 --> 01:03:07,240
Speaker 1: it to the next level y.

1505
01:03:07,120 --> 01:03:09,840
Speaker 3: A, quarterbody and nobody nagged about it because it wasn't.

1506
01:03:09,920 --> 01:03:13,680
Speaker 3: Cheating he brought education to the. Table this is not

1507
01:03:13,760 --> 01:03:17,000
Speaker 3: a controversial. Play he brought this is What i'm going to,

1508
01:03:17,040 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 3: do and this is How i'm going to do with.

1509
01:03:18,600 --> 01:03:20,560
Speaker 1: Me it, feels if you, know it feels like it

1510
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:24,280
Speaker 1: feels like we're so good at. Something if the world hates,

1511
01:03:24,320 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: us if the world hates, us that's what it feels.

1512
01:03:25,960 --> 01:03:28,520
Speaker 1: Like it feels like everybody we could do it, here

1513
01:03:29,120 --> 01:03:30,200
Speaker 1: that anybody could do.

1514
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:31,560
Speaker 2: It anybody could do.

1515
01:03:31,640 --> 01:03:34,160
Speaker 1: It but they're the only ones that do. It so

1516
01:03:34,200 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: it's literally like.

1517
01:03:34,800 --> 01:03:36,120
Speaker 2: Hey it's almost like too.

1518
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:37,760
Speaker 4: Man folks don't want to do it because they don't

1519
01:03:37,760 --> 01:03:39,880
Speaker 4: want to be jocking What philly's, Doing like they don't

1520
01:03:39,880 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 4: want to look at at like, copy you know WHAT i,

1521
01:03:42,920 --> 01:03:47,320
Speaker 4: mean because we've did some funky stuff one time or two,

1522
01:03:47,400 --> 01:03:50,440
Speaker 4: times you, know that presented like, okay we can do

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Speaker 4: the same, thing and then we pitched the ball back

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Speaker 4: and somebody threw the. Ball but it just feels to

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Speaker 4: me That buffalo say screw. That we got a quarterback

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Speaker 4: that we feel like they try it out of. Time

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Speaker 4: he gets it every now and. Then is just unbelievable

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Speaker 4: with it BECAUSE i think more because of that office of.

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Speaker 3: Line MAYBE i just hate it BECAUSE i Hate philadelphia

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Speaker 3: as a.

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Speaker 1: WHOLE i think that's fair, too that's a fair. Criticism

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Speaker 1: you can't.

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Speaker 4: HATE i don't hate the fact that they're they're they're exceptionally,

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Speaker 4: good AND i just hate the fact that they don't

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Speaker 4: allow the defense to kind of get off the same at.

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Speaker 2: Least give us a counter to.

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Speaker 1: It so if you have, thoughts, feelings you, know big

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Speaker 1: emotions about The toush, push please give a comment because

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Speaker 1: like you, KNOW i think it's, cool But fred hates.

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Speaker 3: It so it's because it's literally a butt push and

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Speaker 3: probably you.

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Speaker 2: Can give it a great name all you want. To

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01:04:35,440 --> 01:04:37,919
Speaker 2: it's just like me lying up And i'm looking. Back

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01:04:38,120 --> 01:04:40,000
Speaker 2: you can't wait till you push me to push this.

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01:04:40,120 --> 01:04:47,959
Speaker 2: Tush wrong with, y'all nobody thinking get the right. Ship

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Speaker 2: make sure you're sting. Left come on, man.

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Speaker 1: All, Right so that's gonna do it for this. Show,

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01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,560
Speaker 1: yeah please live a comment if you feel some type

1549
01:05:00,560 --> 01:05:02,440
Speaker 1: of way about any of those. Rules if you and

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01:05:02,520 --> 01:05:05,360
Speaker 1: say congratulations To. Alex i'vection that's. Awesome great guys in the,

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Speaker 1: comments love to see. Those but that's gonna do. It

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01:05:07,680 --> 01:05:09,280
Speaker 1: and so please make sure you like to subscribe it

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Speaker 1: if you get your podcasts

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