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Speaker 1: Hello, everybody, Welcome into the cycle.

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Speaker 2: I am Ryan Warmley, joined today by Mike Mayor. Mayor

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Speaker 2: we're talking to baseball. It's the middle of May. I

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Speaker 2: don't know have anything specific to bring up.

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Speaker 3: How's it going well? Then it would be a great show.

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Speaker 3: It'll be a short show if you don't have anything

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Speaker 3: to do with it to talk about. I wish my

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Speaker 3: Red Sox were better. They just got swept by the Tigers.

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Speaker 3: That's not great, especially for a team that could use

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Speaker 3: a few wins. And my fantasy teams are all over

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Speaker 3: the place. Some are doing really well, some are doing

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Speaker 3: really really poorly, and hopefully everyone out there's teams are

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Speaker 3: doing much better than minor.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, we're not here to talk about how our real

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Speaker 2: life teams are doing. As a Red Sox fan and

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Speaker 2: an Orioles fan, there's nothing I want to talk about

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Speaker 2: less than the Baltimore Orioles at this very moment, although

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Speaker 2: I'm going to talk about some of them in today's show.

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Speaker 2: You talk about your fantasy teams. Some doing well, so

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Speaker 2: I'm doing very poorly. Speaking of doing very poorly, let's

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Speaker 2: dive right into rounding the bases, and we're starting off

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Speaker 2: with taking the l who can we admit we were

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Speaker 2: about this year. We are now over a month and

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Speaker 2: a half into the season, Mayor it is time that

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Speaker 2: we can start saying, Okay, this is no longer strictly

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Speaker 2: a small sample size. Obviously to a degree it is.

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Speaker 2: You know, baseball is a long term, large sample sized sport.

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Speaker 1: But you know, we're getting to that point where we

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Speaker 1: can really kind of start.

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Speaker 2: To reevaluate what we were thinking about before the season

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Speaker 2: and say like this this is the new normal for

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Speaker 2: some of these guys, or at the very least something

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Speaker 2: we need to be reacting to and thinking deeper about

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Speaker 2: for me. And I'll just bring it up first because

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Speaker 2: I talked about the Orioles Adley Rushman. I was extraordinarily

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Speaker 2: high on him as the best catcher in fantasy coming

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Speaker 2: into the season. I thought we were in line for

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Speaker 2: a very locked in Adley season where he was going

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Speaker 2: to take the leave and be like not just the

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Speaker 2: best catcher, but like clearly the best catcher in fantasy

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Speaker 2: and one of the best overall hitters in fantasy, worth

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Speaker 2: a top fifty pick in drafts. I was very, very

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Speaker 2: into Adley this.

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Speaker 1: Year, and.

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Speaker 2: You know, I don't want to like try and justify

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Speaker 2: being wrong because he's been very bad. There is a

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Speaker 2: lot of underlying data that says he has been hitting

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Speaker 2: the ball better than his numbers would suggest, So I

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Speaker 2: do want to give him some degree of credit there

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Speaker 2: and say there has been an element of bad luck,

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Speaker 2: and I'm willing to recognize that. But this is now

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Speaker 2: basically a year long slump. Because the second half of

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Speaker 2: last year he was very bad. This year he has

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Speaker 2: been worse. A one ninety seven batting average, His on

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Speaker 2: base percentage is under three hundred, is ops to six

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Speaker 2: twenty three. He has four home runs, but two of

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Speaker 2: those came in March. I mean he has been one

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Speaker 2: of the worst hitters in baseball. He's still been batting

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Speaker 2: like third or cleanup in a lot of lineups, so

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Speaker 2: he's getting opportunities to figure it out. But average ecxs

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Speaker 2: of velocity thirty six percentile, barrel rate forty nine percentile,

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Speaker 2: hard hit rate twenty eighth percentile, bat speed twenty fifth percentile.

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Speaker 2: His expected numbers for things like wOBA and bad.

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Speaker 3: You already named all the bad ones. Everything else is great.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I'm highlighting that the ball is not coming

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Speaker 2: off off the bat very well. But he what he

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Speaker 2: is doing very well is he's not chasing his withf raise,

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Speaker 2: Chase Raider or elite Elite, So he's not like striking

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Speaker 2: out a ton. It's his lowestriker out of his career.

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Speaker 2: Actually walk right roughly in line with everything else. But

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Speaker 2: it's just been so bad, and it's been like a

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Speaker 2: the L saying like you should drop him, but I'm

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Speaker 2: willing to take the L on him being the best

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Speaker 3: I think it's too early to take the L on him.

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Speaker 3: Maybe he won't catch up to the best catcher in fantasy.

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Speaker 3: You know, he's not going to be Carson Kelly. Who

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Speaker 3: is you know who can be Carson Kelly. But like

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Speaker 3: you said, like a lot of his expected numbers are

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Speaker 3: much better. He's batting one ninety one, he's expected batting

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Speaker 3: averages two seventy nine. It's so much higher. And I

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Speaker 3: think the Orioles as an organization, as like a lineup,

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Speaker 3: just caught up in that. He's swinging strike rate is

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Speaker 3: actually down pretty significantly. He was six point eight percent

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Speaker 3: the same two to eleven. Bad bit is not doing

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Speaker 3: but he's also getting a ton of bad luck here

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Speaker 3: and that the numbers are going to normalize to the

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Speaker 3: point where he'll be like a rosterbule catch rosterable. That's

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Speaker 3: hard to say, catcher. It's probably too late to be

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Speaker 3: the best catcher in fantasy as you were hoping for.

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Speaker 3: But I think he could easily finish like top eight

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Speaker 2: The Orioles as an organization are a red flag for

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Speaker 2: me with him, Like I have a lot of problems

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Speaker 2: with their approach at their plate. I don't understand why

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Speaker 2: they're not firing Brandon Hyde. I also don't understand why

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Speaker 2: they're not firing at least they're hitting coach. I mean

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Speaker 2: they they need to completely revamp the approach to this organization.

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Speaker 2: They have seen over one thousand fewer pitches this season

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Speaker 2: collectively as a team than the Red Sox have like

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Speaker 2: they are not taking pitches. It is impacting them. Adley,

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Speaker 1: Like I don't know what.

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Speaker 2: It is that's going on with this team, but the

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Speaker 2: guys that should be stars are not hitting well, and

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Speaker 2: Adley is right at the forefront of that. I'm really nervous,

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Speaker 2: and it scares me that this has been a trend

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Speaker 2: multiple years now of getting worth twenty twenty three, his

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Speaker 2: OPS was eight or nine. Twenty twenty four, ISPs was

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Speaker 2: seven oh nine twenty twenty five, ISPs is six twenty three.

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Speaker 2: I get that there's some bad luck baked in there.

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Speaker 2: I get that the expected numbers are better. They weren't

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Speaker 2: really in the second half of last year. This year,

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Speaker 2: it does seem like more bad luck than playing badly

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Speaker 2: that I think there were some injury stuff in the

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Speaker 2: like almost a year of a really, really poor performer,

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Speaker 2: and I feel like I was out over my skis

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Speaker 3: He's also older than I than I thought he was

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Speaker 2: Talk about this all the time. I in twenty nineteen

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Speaker 2: was screaming from the mountaintops. Everybody said, what, Adley's the

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Speaker 2: most obvious consensus number one pick we've had in years.

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Speaker 2: I was like, they need to take Bobby with junior

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Speaker 2: I was like, by the time Adley is playing at

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Speaker 2: his late twenties, and that's basically what's happening. And I

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Speaker 1: But I sure would rather have had probably Witt.

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Speaker 2: And I said that the day of the draft. I

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Speaker 2: the age. I just thought it was poor, poor planning.

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Speaker 2: But you know, that's a conversation for another day. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he is sneaky older, so like there's not that

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Speaker 1: I think that might be a mistake.

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Speaker 2: I mean, if he continues to hit poorly, another year

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Speaker 2: Like yes, a mistake for him to not have taken

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Speaker 2: Sometimes these players bet on themselves and it works out

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Speaker 2: but I don't know if it would be as big

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Speaker 3: So two more.

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Speaker 1: The other guy I throughout there is Devin Williams.

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Speaker 2: I think one of my bold predictions on the show

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Speaker 2: That's clearly not happening, you know it was. It was

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Speaker 2: be a GIMMEI he's just been awful. I mean he's

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Speaker 2: been really He's expected ERA is five ten, which is

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Speaker 2: three points three runs higher than his actual or to

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Speaker 2: say than his actually ERA of eight thirty six.

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Speaker 1: He's been really, really bad, and.

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Speaker 2: I would imagine there's a path to him getting better,

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Speaker 2: far it sure looks like a big fat l that

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I don't even have too much to add there,

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Speaker 3: because I mean, no one could have really predicted this,

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Speaker 3: and it just could not be going worse for him

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Speaker 3: right now. And like for him to already be like

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Speaker 3: not you know, the lockdown, No, not like lock but

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Speaker 3: like the locked in closer for the Yankees and we're

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Speaker 3: in mid May, isn't like no one could have predicted that.

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Speaker 1: The walk rate is a little high.

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Speaker 2: you know, it's usually been around twelve percent. It's in

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Speaker 2: sixteen percent, So it's very bad. The alarming number is

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Speaker 2: the strikeout rate, because you look at the last few years,

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Speaker 2: since twenty twenty, it's been fifty three, thirty eight, forty

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Speaker 2: He's just not striking on anybody, Yeah, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 2: the Whips won seventy nine, I mean, almost double what

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Speaker 2: and it's currently over eight. So yeah, I am willing

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Speaker 2: to accept the L. I have Devin Williams in a

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Speaker 2: lot of places. I don't really know what to do

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Speaker 2: with him because I don't really want to drop him,

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Speaker 2: but you know, and I invested a lot in him

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Speaker 2: on Draft Day and that was a mistake. So sure, yeah,

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Speaker 2: those are kind of my too. I wanted to highlight

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Speaker 2: Adlie and Devin Williams who you got.

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Speaker 3: So I wanted to give a few here because, as

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Speaker 3: I told you before the show, though, I'm taking the

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Speaker 3: like pull it back a little bit, and I don't

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Speaker 3: want to, like, you know, not fulfill my obligation into

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Speaker 3: the segment. But my first answer was Jeffrey Springs, just

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Speaker 1: You Yeah, yeah, okay. Who else do you have?

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Speaker 3: Easy one well document on this show, Mike Trout someone

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Speaker 1: No, you were in on my traut this year.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, no timetable. He's got a booboo, but no timetable

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Speaker 3: I'm like, if this is just a bone bruise, what

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Speaker 2: Yeah, not great, Yeah, yeah, I mean that's straightforward.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And like you said before, I forget it was

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Speaker 3: He has four point nine to one era expect the

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Speaker 2: But I'm more confident in him kind of bouncing back

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Speaker 3: You think, so, why why is it so some.

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Speaker 2: Of the expected numbers are better and like at the

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Speaker 3: So I will say Class I has like technically already

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Speaker 2: I invested heavily in our Fantasy pros Insiders Baseball league.

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Speaker 2: It's a head to head categories, and I decided to

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Speaker 3: Well, at least Class A is like usable. Now you know,

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Speaker 2: Mayor joseel Tuve.

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Speaker 1: Is he cooked? Is he washed? Is he finished?

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Speaker 2: Being an elite Fantasy contributor. His ops is under seven

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Speaker 2: hundred right now, he is batting two fifty six. His

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Speaker 2: His and I don't know if you have looked at this,

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Speaker 1: It is absolutely abysmal.

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Speaker 2: Fifth percent expect its fifth percentile, excuse me, expected wOBA

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Speaker 1: His average activelosity is eighty four point four miles an hour.

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Speaker 2: He's also first percentile and sweet spot rate, his bat

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Speaker 1: Across the board. He is thirty five.

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Speaker 2: Now, is this a great longtime elite player taking that

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Speaker 1: Do you see this as still early season? Small sample size?

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Speaker 2: I mean, the underlying data is just so poor that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this is almost another l I can take. Not

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Speaker 3: be outfield, infield, you know, like outfield, second base. Eligible

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Speaker 3: and it's it's hard to tell in the early in

437
00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,040
Speaker 3: the season. Is like you said, is this just a

438
00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:20,600
Speaker 3: small sample size, is it a slow start, or are

439
00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,879
Speaker 3: we seeing the cliff? Is this because just kind of

440
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,400
Speaker 3: like the new like version of this player as they've gotten,

441
00:20:26,480 --> 00:20:28,000
Speaker 3: you know, they're in their mid thirties now.

442
00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,320
Speaker 2: I don't know what the answer to that question is, honestly,

443
00:20:33,560 --> 00:20:36,199
Speaker 2: like if it is kind of the new normal with

444
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:39,080
Speaker 2: Josel Tuve, or if it is you know, hey, this

445
00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:41,240
Speaker 2: guy's a star. We should have trusted him to figure

446
00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:44,359
Speaker 2: it out. I tend to lean towards the negative side

447
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:48,040
Speaker 2: of that answer, and thinking that this is somebody that

448
00:20:48,160 --> 00:20:51,040
Speaker 2: I would sell low on, for example, if you can,

449
00:20:51,160 --> 00:20:53,480
Speaker 2: and I would not want to buy low on. I

450
00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,040
Speaker 2: mean again, like the numbers are all bad and the

451
00:20:56,160 --> 00:21:00,159
Speaker 2: expected data is worse. That's a pretty bad formula for

452
00:21:00,200 --> 00:21:03,240
Speaker 2: a guy in his mid thirties. And you know, we

453
00:21:03,320 --> 00:21:07,040
Speaker 2: shouldn't let the players of twenty years ago when steroids

454
00:21:07,080 --> 00:21:10,280
Speaker 2: were rampant, you know, color our perspective, Like, mid thirties

455
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:13,000
Speaker 2: is a very reasonable time to fall off a cliff, right,

456
00:21:13,280 --> 00:21:17,360
Speaker 2: this is this is not unheard of physically, if if

457
00:21:17,359 --> 00:21:20,639
Speaker 2: that is in fact, what's happening. So and it's not

458
00:21:20,640 --> 00:21:22,960
Speaker 2: like that the Houston lineup is you know what it was,

459
00:21:23,000 --> 00:21:25,159
Speaker 2: and it's heyday either to kind of help bump him

460
00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:29,080
Speaker 2: up with some of the counting stats too. So yeah,

461
00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: I mean, I I think it's a pretty sad thing

462
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:33,920
Speaker 2: to watch. I mean, unless you hate the Astros, which

463
00:21:33,920 --> 00:21:36,040
Speaker 2: would be totally justified, but it's sad.

464
00:21:36,040 --> 00:21:39,120
Speaker 1: If you have enjoyed watching al TV over the years.

465
00:21:39,600 --> 00:21:41,920
Speaker 3: Are you willing to buy low on him right now?

466
00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: I'm not. I mean he's he.

467
00:21:43,920 --> 00:21:46,399
Speaker 2: I would pick him up if somebody dropped him, but like,

468
00:21:46,440 --> 00:21:49,240
Speaker 2: I'm not giving up anything. You know, I would trade

469
00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:51,760
Speaker 2: from our conversation last week, I would trade haave baias

470
00:21:51,840 --> 00:21:54,720
Speaker 2: for him, but like pretty much not much more than

471
00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,320
Speaker 2: that I want. I want nothing to do with all

472
00:21:57,359 --> 00:22:00,200
Speaker 2: two because the problem with All two a too is

473
00:22:01,119 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 2: if you have him, you're gonna start him like you

474
00:22:03,760 --> 00:22:04,960
Speaker 2: don't want to be the guy who sits out to

475
00:22:05,119 --> 00:22:09,480
Speaker 2: VA when he finally gets it going again, And so

476
00:22:09,600 --> 00:22:13,879
Speaker 2: every week he's just gonna be dragging you down unless

477
00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 2: he really does figure it out. So like I would

478
00:22:15,560 --> 00:22:19,440
Speaker 2: buy him for the absolute barrassed minimum price, literally free.

479
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:22,440
Speaker 2: Anything beyond that, no, I have no interest in.

480
00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,399
Speaker 3: Buying I it's kind of stats aren't.

481
00:22:25,160 --> 00:22:29,159
Speaker 1: That bad, but his underlying stuff is even worse.

482
00:22:29,400 --> 00:22:31,280
Speaker 3: Right, but he hasn't killed you in your line up,

483
00:22:31,320 --> 00:22:33,239
Speaker 3: and he's still hit in two fifty four months, three

484
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:35,160
Speaker 3: stolen bases. It's not that bad.

485
00:22:35,200 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: I don't know.

486
00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:37,360
Speaker 2: I mean, I have him in our head to head

487
00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:43,120
Speaker 2: points deep keeper league, and in that league he is

488
00:22:43,480 --> 00:22:45,200
Speaker 2: you know, if you look at the last several years,

489
00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:50,240
Speaker 2: his points per game in this format have been you know,

490
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,320
Speaker 2: this is going back like a decade four and a half,

491
00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,360
Speaker 2: four and a half, three and a half four, two

492
00:22:54,359 --> 00:22:57,240
Speaker 2: and a half. That was twenty twenty four four four

493
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,520
Speaker 2: and a half three. This year it's barely over two.

494
00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,480
Speaker 2: It's like, it's a pretty steep drop. And that's just

495
00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:05,960
Speaker 2: one scoring format, but it's a pretty steep drop. Yeah,

496
00:23:06,080 --> 00:23:08,720
Speaker 2: he's been caught stealing as many times as he's stolen

497
00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: a base, Like the speed might not be there anymore.

498
00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:12,120
Speaker 1: I mean, it's just.

499
00:23:13,600 --> 00:23:16,359
Speaker 2: Yeah, his sprint speed is forty six percentile this year.

500
00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:17,879
Speaker 3: What is it not?

501
00:23:19,359 --> 00:23:20,720
Speaker 1: I don't know, Actually I'm looking, I'm.

502
00:23:20,720 --> 00:23:22,199
Speaker 2: You know, but I mean usually he can get you

503
00:23:22,200 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 2: a handful of stolen basism like the pestles.

504
00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,720
Speaker 1: I guess that's actually pretty normal in life for him, So.

505
00:23:28,680 --> 00:23:30,320
Speaker 2: I take I take back that as a criticist. I mean,

506
00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:31,960
Speaker 2: the last couple of years at least, it's pretty normal,

507
00:23:32,240 --> 00:23:34,439
Speaker 2: like into his thirties. Earlier on it was different.

508
00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:36,240
Speaker 3: Of course, where do you think he is on Fantasy

509
00:23:36,240 --> 00:23:39,919
Speaker 3: Bro's VBR, Like overall, like, and I know that's a

510
00:23:39,960 --> 00:23:44,320
Speaker 3: difficult gauge. So like let's say above or below one fifty,

511
00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:49,640
Speaker 3: like tie players, hitters, top hitters.

512
00:23:49,840 --> 00:23:57,880
Speaker 1: I would guess maybe in the like one thirty to

513
00:23:57,880 --> 00:23:58,800
Speaker 1: forty range.

514
00:23:59,400 --> 00:24:02,000
Speaker 3: Very close. You're getting warmer. You want to try and

515
00:24:02,000 --> 00:24:02,880
Speaker 3: get closer.

516
00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:08,560
Speaker 1: One forty five. Ooh ah close?

517
00:24:09,400 --> 00:24:13,080
Speaker 2: Uh yeah, I mean again, it's it's the counting sets

518
00:24:13,160 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 2: being down from usual coupled with the underlying SATs being

519
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:16,960
Speaker 2: much much worse.

520
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:19,679
Speaker 1: Do you want to buy him?

521
00:24:19,880 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 3: I buy low?

522
00:24:21,640 --> 00:24:22,720
Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, we see.

523
00:24:22,760 --> 00:24:24,679
Speaker 3: That depends on what the price is. Like you know,

524
00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,239
Speaker 3: I'm always wanted to buy it by very low, but

525
00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 3: I just think.

526
00:24:27,960 --> 00:24:29,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, like I said, I'll buy free, but I don't

527
00:24:29,920 --> 00:24:30,560
Speaker 2: want to buy low.

528
00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:33,000
Speaker 3: But I figure if he was last year about it,

529
00:24:33,040 --> 00:24:35,080
Speaker 3: two ninety five twenty home onre twenty two stolen bases,

530
00:24:35,160 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 3: even if he bats like two sixty fifteen home runs

531
00:24:38,280 --> 00:24:40,439
Speaker 3: fifteen stolen bases, that's still very valuable to me.

532
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 1: I don't know that he's going to get there, though.

533
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:46,360
Speaker 3: We'll see, We'll see.

534
00:24:46,240 --> 00:24:48,520
Speaker 1: Yeah, we will see. Let's go to our news notes

535
00:24:48,560 --> 00:24:51,720
Speaker 1: and injuries. We can run through these quickly, so real quick.

536
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,240
Speaker 3: Some of the Top News Shane mcclanahan's still feeling discomfort

537
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:59,919
Speaker 3: in that pitching arm, with that nerve issue. Don't love that.

538
00:25:01,040 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 3: I've been kind of stashing him a couple of places,

539
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 3: and I feel like it might be times of just

540
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,040
Speaker 3: kind of cut loose. It's uh if he's like not

541
00:25:08,080 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: even he just recently started throwing and he's immediately feeling discomfort.

542
00:25:11,840 --> 00:25:14,720
Speaker 3: We don't really have like it's a nerve issue. It's

543
00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:16,080
Speaker 3: like hard to kind of like it's you know, it's

544
00:25:16,119 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 3: not like a like a torn labor where you like

545
00:25:18,280 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 3: know he's done, or like a muscle strain where you

546
00:25:20,840 --> 00:25:23,159
Speaker 3: know it's going to be like a few weeks. We

547
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:24,960
Speaker 3: don't really have a ton of infoto go on on

548
00:25:24,960 --> 00:25:27,560
Speaker 3: like a nerve issue. And you know, I'm if you've

549
00:25:27,560 --> 00:25:29,719
Speaker 3: still been stashing him. It's now mid May. You know,

550
00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:32,000
Speaker 3: are you I know you have him somewhere. Are you

551
00:25:32,119 --> 00:25:33,159
Speaker 3: just continuing to hold on?

552
00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: Yeah? I don't.

553
00:25:37,200 --> 00:25:39,639
Speaker 2: Yes, I mean it's easy enough to just stick him

554
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:42,880
Speaker 2: on an il spot, and I haven't the places where

555
00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,000
Speaker 2: I have him, I haven't felt like I've really needed to.

556
00:25:46,000 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 2: You know, I just got a cut bait to make

557
00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:50,080
Speaker 2: a room for some other like hot shot call up

558
00:25:50,160 --> 00:25:53,200
Speaker 2: or something. So I've been comfortable just sitting on him

559
00:25:53,240 --> 00:25:54,960
Speaker 2: and hoping all about.

560
00:25:54,960 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 3: In this scenario, I have him in TGFBI where there's

561
00:25:56,960 --> 00:26:02,120
Speaker 3: no il spots. It's a deep league, fifteen teams, five outfielders.

562
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:04,679
Speaker 3: He's just been taking up a bench spot for me,

563
00:26:04,920 --> 00:26:06,960
Speaker 3: and it's not like there's a ton the great players available,

564
00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,240
Speaker 3: like you said on in Free Agencies that he's just

565
00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:12,439
Speaker 3: been sitting on my bench. But I don't know how

566
00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,399
Speaker 3: much longer I can just have an empty bench spot.

567
00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:16,199
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, But I mean like that's the thing is

568
00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:19,000
Speaker 1: like who are you getting in it? Deeply? Like that,

569
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:19,560
Speaker 1: who are.

570
00:26:19,400 --> 00:26:21,399
Speaker 2: You picking up to replace him with? That has that

571
00:26:21,520 --> 00:26:23,880
Speaker 2: kind of upside, I'd rather just sit on the upside.

572
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,120
Speaker 2: I mean, if there's a scenario where it's like you

573
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:28,480
Speaker 2: desperately need to pick somebody up, like let's say you

574
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:33,800
Speaker 2: have you know, let's see if Freddy Freeman and he

575
00:26:33,840 --> 00:26:35,880
Speaker 2: goes on the IL and you don't want to drop

576
00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:37,879
Speaker 2: Freddy Freeman, but you don't have a backup first basement,

577
00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: he desperately need to pick him up, and there was

578
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,320
Speaker 2: like somebody good on the on the waivers, like yeah, sure,

579
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:44,840
Speaker 2: like a specific scenario like that, I'd be open to it,

580
00:26:44,880 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 2: but like in general, I'm not just looking to drop

581
00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: him for the sake of having another bench spot, Like

582
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: I don't care, No, I don't care that much about

583
00:26:51,640 --> 00:26:54,800
Speaker 2: having one more bench spot if if whoever I pick

584
00:26:54,880 --> 00:26:56,439
Speaker 2: up is not even going to be really in contention

585
00:26:56,560 --> 00:26:57,280
Speaker 2: to start for me.

586
00:26:57,640 --> 00:27:00,280
Speaker 3: How about this, what if would you rather stay Sean

587
00:27:00,359 --> 00:27:03,679
Speaker 3: McClanahan or Shane Bieber? And I can give you an

588
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 3: update on Shane Bieber. He uh just recently just started

589
00:27:07,280 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 3: like throwing off a mound. At least that he's still

590
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:11,600
Speaker 3: a ways away from returning from Tommy John surgery. But

591
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,720
Speaker 3: at least with him, I have hope that he could

592
00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:17,879
Speaker 3: be back in like a month, where say McClanahan just

593
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:18,600
Speaker 3: might be a nothing.

594
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:29,640
Speaker 2: I would probably rather be stashing McClanahan, But I mean,

595
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,520
Speaker 2: obviously ideally it's neither her. But you know, but if

596
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:35,200
Speaker 2: I'm if I'm keeping a bench spot for one of these.

597
00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:36,720
Speaker 3: Well what about in a league like that, Like, would

598
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,200
Speaker 3: would you drop McLanahan for Bieber?

599
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:42,520
Speaker 2: I think I'd rather have McLanahan in that league because

600
00:27:42,520 --> 00:27:45,400
Speaker 2: I guys coming back from Tommy John. I'm like even

601
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 2: when they're back. I don't really have any expectations, like, like,

602
00:27:49,080 --> 00:27:52,960
Speaker 2: even when McClanahan returns, I'm kind of hoping that we'll

603
00:27:52,960 --> 00:27:53,920
Speaker 2: get something out of him.

604
00:27:53,960 --> 00:27:56,320
Speaker 1: Like Bieber, he could return and it could be like.

605
00:27:56,480 --> 00:28:00,359
Speaker 2: Just such a limited role that it doesn't really matter anyway.

606
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:05,160
Speaker 3: Fair, Okay, so we can go quickly. Tanner Hawk allowed

607
00:28:05,160 --> 00:28:07,600
Speaker 3: eleven earned runs for the second time this year.

608
00:28:09,040 --> 00:28:10,600
Speaker 1: Is that pulling a Hawk or is that pulling an

609
00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:11,280
Speaker 1: Aaron Nola?

610
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 3: That's true. He got off to like a decent start

611
00:28:16,240 --> 00:28:17,960
Speaker 3: and then he got shelled for eleven earned runs, and

612
00:28:17,960 --> 00:28:20,640
Speaker 3: then he looked kind of good and people picked them

613
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,240
Speaker 3: back up and he hurt them again. So it's kind

614
00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:26,640
Speaker 3: of brutal that, especially in like if you think about

615
00:28:26,680 --> 00:28:29,720
Speaker 3: it in like Rodo terms, you probably rostered. How you

616
00:28:29,720 --> 00:28:32,760
Speaker 3: give up eleven earned runs. You dropped him, missed his

617
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:34,960
Speaker 3: good starts, and then if you picked him up again,

618
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:37,479
Speaker 3: you got hit with eleven earned runs again. So there

619
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,880
Speaker 3: are probably people out there that have like missed his

620
00:28:40,040 --> 00:28:42,160
Speaker 3: two or three good starts and just have twenty two

621
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:45,920
Speaker 3: earned runs on the books thanks to Tanner Hawk. Lucas Giolito,

622
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:47,600
Speaker 3: I don't know what to make of him. He had

623
00:28:47,600 --> 00:28:49,760
Speaker 3: a good start, a really bad start, and then another

624
00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:52,640
Speaker 3: good start. I've seen a lot of optimism for him

625
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:56,680
Speaker 3: in this space. I kind of don't see it when

626
00:28:56,680 --> 00:28:59,080
Speaker 3: I want, Like, something just looks off to me, even

627
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:01,480
Speaker 3: I was listening to another show I think it was

628
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 3: the CBS Guys recently where they talked about him looking

629
00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:06,479
Speaker 3: better and his vlos as fastball is up. His los

630
00:29:06,560 --> 00:29:08,520
Speaker 3: ages fastball was up, but I was watching the game

631
00:29:08,760 --> 00:29:11,040
Speaker 3: he was also really struggling to locate it, which tells

632
00:29:11,040 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 3: me he was maybe overthrowing to kind of get that

633
00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:17,480
Speaker 3: velocity backup, and he just didn't look that sharp to

634
00:29:17,480 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 3: me despite the good numbers. One of the bigger news

635
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:24,400
Speaker 3: items is the Dodgers are calling up catching prospect Dalton Rushing,

636
00:29:24,480 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 3: and the more important thing is it sounds like he could.

637
00:29:26,560 --> 00:29:28,920
Speaker 3: He's a very top you know, he's a very highly

638
00:29:29,360 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 3: rated prospect. He's like maybe their top prospect. And the

639
00:29:32,920 --> 00:29:34,960
Speaker 3: good thing there is that he's a catching prospect but

640
00:29:35,080 --> 00:29:37,600
Speaker 3: should be in the lineup in other ways, Like he

641
00:29:37,680 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 3: can play a little first base, he can play a

642
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 3: little outfield, and so there's a chance he's not just

643
00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,680
Speaker 3: the backup to Will Smith. He's someone who's in the

644
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:44,800
Speaker 3: lineup several times a week.

645
00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: So I saw I thought I saw a quote from

646
00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:49,480
Speaker 2: the Dodgers that they were thinking he was going to

647
00:29:49,520 --> 00:29:52,520
Speaker 2: catch twice a week and then like kind of find

648
00:29:52,560 --> 00:29:55,080
Speaker 2: other at bats elsewhere. I didn't come away from that

649
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:57,080
Speaker 2: quote thinking like it was going to be enough to

650
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 2: be like worth starting in fantasy?

651
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: Did you kind of re that differently?

652
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,520
Speaker 3: I read it as he's going to get enough opportunities,

653
00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,400
Speaker 3: and I think he's a good enough prospect where if

654
00:30:06,400 --> 00:30:08,440
Speaker 3: he hits, he'll be in the lineup more. And they

655
00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 3: have enough injuries and enough opportunities. I mean, grant Hi

656
00:30:11,120 --> 00:30:13,719
Speaker 3: once they get healthy. If he hasn't been hitting, he's gone.

657
00:30:14,240 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 3: But for me, especially in like a two catcher league,

658
00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,280
Speaker 3: if you know you can get a prospect a catcher,

659
00:30:19,360 --> 00:30:21,200
Speaker 3: and even in one catcher league, if you're can to

660
00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,360
Speaker 3: afford to like kind of stash him, I do think

661
00:30:23,360 --> 00:30:25,520
Speaker 3: he's a really good prospect. He's a really good hitter,

662
00:30:26,240 --> 00:30:29,160
Speaker 3: and you know he can find his way into the

663
00:30:29,200 --> 00:30:31,720
Speaker 3: lineup in other ways, especially because like Freddy Freeman is

664
00:30:31,720 --> 00:30:33,560
Speaker 3: incredibly hot right now. But it also like there was

665
00:30:33,560 --> 00:30:36,800
Speaker 3: a report that he gets like like an hour or

666
00:30:36,840 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 3: more of treatment on his ankle every day, so like

667
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,880
Speaker 3: he's just like scraping scraping it together, like health wise,

668
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:45,800
Speaker 3: and like he's the kind of player who if they

669
00:30:45,840 --> 00:30:47,520
Speaker 3: have like one more injury, he could be an everyday

670
00:30:47,520 --> 00:30:53,960
Speaker 3: player at the catcher position. Bryce Miller to the IL.

671
00:30:53,960 --> 00:30:56,400
Speaker 3: He's another player I considered for like taking the l on.

672
00:30:56,560 --> 00:30:58,880
Speaker 3: I wasn't like historically high on Bryce Miller, but I

673
00:30:58,880 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 3: have a ton of shares of him this year because

674
00:31:00,400 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 3: I liked where the price was going. So he has

675
00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 3: not looked good and he has gone to the IL.

676
00:31:06,200 --> 00:31:09,240
Speaker 3: Jose Katana everyone was worried about, you know, holding the

677
00:31:09,240 --> 00:31:11,320
Speaker 3: bag and he turns back into Jose Katana, but apparently

678
00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:14,040
Speaker 3: he's just going to the IL. He had a shoulder

679
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 3: issue and then they said he was fine, he was

680
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:17,200
Speaker 3: gonna start Saturday, and now he's going to the IL.

681
00:31:17,280 --> 00:31:19,320
Speaker 3: So like not a huge name for Fantasy, but someone

682
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 3: that we've talked about on the show a bunch recently.

683
00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,280
Speaker 3: That's someone where we've been streaming because he just keeps

684
00:31:23,280 --> 00:31:27,080
Speaker 3: pitching well. Ronald Lacune began a rehab assignment and is

685
00:31:27,080 --> 00:31:30,960
Speaker 3: playing the outfield, So I was kind of hoping that happened,

686
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,880
Speaker 3: Like two or three weeks ago, but it's happening now,

687
00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 3: and so that's very exciting, especially if someone who's stashing

688
00:31:36,360 --> 00:31:40,000
Speaker 3: him and Spencer Streider recently threw a SIM game and

689
00:31:40,040 --> 00:31:42,480
Speaker 3: could be returning as early as this week. It hasn't

690
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 3: been decided yet, maybe by the by this weekend, we'll

691
00:31:45,000 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 3: know more if he's going to go in a rehab

692
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:48,880
Speaker 3: assignment or just kind of come right back to the braves.

693
00:31:49,480 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: It's it did sound or like, actually, you know, I

694
00:31:52,960 --> 00:31:55,440
Speaker 3: read it, So I will say that I read that

695
00:31:56,920 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 3: he his velocity started out fine in a SIM game

696
00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,880
Speaker 3: that he threw, but as he went on, the velocity

697
00:32:01,920 --> 00:32:03,560
Speaker 3: kind of dipped a little bit, which I think can

698
00:32:03,600 --> 00:32:06,720
Speaker 3: be pretty normal for someone, you know, working their way back.

699
00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 3: But you know, it is something worth noting that they

700
00:32:09,760 --> 00:32:13,040
Speaker 3: might have seen that kind of fatigue, you know, because

701
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: they didn't seem like they were concerned for like injured reasons.

702
00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:16,440
Speaker 3: They just thought, you know, he needed to work back

703
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,240
Speaker 3: into the game shape. But worth noting that a velocity

704
00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: was down. So it's possible they send him back out

705
00:32:22,320 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 3: for a rehab assignment, but he could return as early

706
00:32:25,360 --> 00:32:27,280
Speaker 3: as this week. I've seen some sites projecting him to

707
00:32:27,280 --> 00:32:28,320
Speaker 3: start as early as Tuesday.

708
00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: Last topic here on Round on the Base is I

709
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: don't have a ton on this, but I did think

710
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 2: it was worth mentioning just because it's a big story

711
00:32:36,440 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 2: in baseball. Pete Rose and Shulis Joe Jackson.

712
00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 3: What's that? So it's a hot topic, sor. I didn't

713
00:32:41,880 --> 00:32:44,040
Speaker 3: mean to direct you, but yeah, highly debated in the

714
00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:44,760
Speaker 3: space right now.

715
00:32:45,320 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, Pete Rose and Sheilas Joe Jackson now eligible for

716
00:32:48,800 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 2: the Hall of Fame. They've been kind of reinstated into baseball.

717
00:32:51,800 --> 00:32:55,200
Speaker 2: The line of thinking from Manfred was this is a

718
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,920
Speaker 2: lifetime ban. You know, these guys are obviously no longer

719
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:03,400
Speaker 2: with us, some more recently than others, and you know

720
00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:07,240
Speaker 2: they're now kind of eligible. And I didn't really know.

721
00:33:07,560 --> 00:33:09,120
Speaker 2: I didn't, like, have a ton of strong feelings, but

722
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:11,640
Speaker 2: I expected to have a ton of strong feelings about it.

723
00:33:11,760 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 2: I have somebody who tends to care about the Hall

724
00:33:14,160 --> 00:33:16,800
Speaker 2: of Fame and the history of the sport and.

725
00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:18,400
Speaker 1: Think about this stuff a lot.

726
00:33:18,560 --> 00:33:19,880
Speaker 2: But as I sat down to think, like what do

727
00:33:19,920 --> 00:33:21,600
Speaker 2: I actually want to say about this on the show,

728
00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:24,520
Speaker 2: I really didn't have much. I'm kind of curious what

729
00:33:24,600 --> 00:33:27,959
Speaker 2: your opinion is. I don't find myself feeling strong like

730
00:33:28,560 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: I do think it's kind of crappy to like punish

731
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:33,600
Speaker 2: a guy for his whole life and then when he's

732
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:35,479
Speaker 2: gone and be like, Okay, well now you'll get the

733
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:38,720
Speaker 2: you know, the benefit and the value of being enshrined

734
00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:39,360
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame.

735
00:33:39,560 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: That's my take.

736
00:33:42,000 --> 00:33:45,080
Speaker 2: That it's crappy to wait until they're gone.

737
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,320
Speaker 3: Yeah.

738
00:33:46,640 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: Yeah.

739
00:33:46,960 --> 00:33:50,160
Speaker 2: But at the same time, like Pete Rose like a

740
00:33:50,200 --> 00:33:52,600
Speaker 2: Hall of Fame player, yes, but like even aside from

741
00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,840
Speaker 2: the gambling, like the by all accounts isn't wasn't a

742
00:33:55,880 --> 00:33:58,320
Speaker 2: great person. So like it's also hard for me to

743
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:02,840
Speaker 2: feel too like zimpthetic for somebody like who you you know,

744
00:34:02,840 --> 00:34:05,160
Speaker 2: maybe doesn't carry himself in that kind of hall of

745
00:34:05,160 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 2: fame way. Now, there's a lot of like bad people

746
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:07,800
Speaker 2: in the Hall of Fame, so I'm not saying that

747
00:34:07,840 --> 00:34:10,160
Speaker 2: should be like a disqualifying thing, but you know, it

748
00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:11,560
Speaker 2: was hard for me to get up in arms about it,

749
00:34:11,600 --> 00:34:14,840
Speaker 2: I guess, and frankly, like obviously, like I'm aware of

750
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,520
Speaker 2: who shoeless Joe Jackson is, and like the scandal from

751
00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:18,920
Speaker 2: back then, but that was long going to ago that

752
00:34:19,000 --> 00:34:20,440
Speaker 2: like it's not like I have all the details on

753
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 2: that kind of story or anything like that. So like

754
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:26,320
Speaker 2: the ultimately, well, yeah, so like that one's like a

755
00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,880
Speaker 2: weird one even like weigh in on and like have

756
00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:30,279
Speaker 2: a strong strong opinion about. But like Pete Rose one

757
00:34:30,400 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: is like, yeah, I think it's kind of like a

758
00:34:32,080 --> 00:34:35,680
Speaker 2: crappy way to do it by Major League Baseball, But ultimately,

759
00:34:35,719 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: like I don't feel that strongly either way, Like, and

760
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:38,719
Speaker 2: it's not like he's in the Hall of Fame, like

761
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:40,360
Speaker 2: he still needs to get voted in by the writers,

762
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,160
Speaker 2: and I genuinely don't know like what they're going to

763
00:34:42,239 --> 00:34:42,560
Speaker 2: do with that.

764
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm pretty similar in that I didn't have like

765
00:34:45,840 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 3: very strong feelings. I saw a lot of very strong feelings,

766
00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,640
Speaker 3: like it's ridiculous that they even consider this. I think

767
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,200
Speaker 3: it's in a different bucket than the steroid guys who,

768
00:34:54,320 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 3: like I'm you know, I'm pretty on board with with

769
00:34:56,280 --> 00:34:58,600
Speaker 3: not letting some of them in just because like what

770
00:34:58,640 --> 00:35:01,960
Speaker 3: they did directly resulted in their numbers, and so it's

771
00:35:02,040 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 3: kind of hard to be like, hey, like you were

772
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:04,920
Speaker 3: one of our best players, but also like you were

773
00:35:04,960 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 3: a robot because you cheated.

774
00:35:07,239 --> 00:35:09,759
Speaker 2: Are you just very quickly? Are you I don't think

775
00:35:09,760 --> 00:35:11,200
Speaker 2: we've ever talked about this. Are you somebody who thinks

776
00:35:11,239 --> 00:35:12,759
Speaker 2: that Barry Bonds shouldn't be in the Hall of Fame.

777
00:35:14,520 --> 00:35:18,080
Speaker 3: I have very complicated feelings about that. I'm like I

778
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:20,360
Speaker 3: could go either way. I mean, like, on one hand,

779
00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 3: like he very clearly did steroids, but on the other hand,

780
00:35:24,239 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 3: like he never he kind of never got caught, like

781
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 3: he never actually like there's no proof they did steroids,

782
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:31,240
Speaker 3: so like it's kind of like catching.

783
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:33,920
Speaker 1: He also was a Hall of Famer before steroids.

784
00:35:34,000 --> 00:35:38,120
Speaker 2: Right, Let's let's let's save Barry Bod's well a week

785
00:35:38,160 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 2: where we don't have a ton of great topics.

786
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:41,440
Speaker 1: Let's let's do Barry Bonds in a future. I was

787
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:43,320
Speaker 1: just curious, but yeah, Pete Rose.

788
00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,880
Speaker 3: Yeah, in this case, I like I thought it was like,

789
00:35:46,640 --> 00:35:48,000
Speaker 3: you know, you're either going to take a stance and

790
00:35:48,000 --> 00:35:49,480
Speaker 3: not let him in the Hall of Fame or make

791
00:35:49,520 --> 00:35:53,560
Speaker 3: him eligible, or like, if you're gonna do it, doable.

792
00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:55,279
Speaker 3: He's alive. Like they waited until he died and they're like,

793
00:35:55,320 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 3: all right, now he can be in the Hall of Fame.

794
00:35:56,440 --> 00:35:58,760
Speaker 3: And I'm like, all right, Like that's kind of crappy.

795
00:36:00,160 --> 00:36:02,680
Speaker 3: And I've seen some players. Some people talk on the

796
00:36:02,680 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 3: space like you know, like if you're permanently ineligible, like

797
00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 3: how are you like eligible now? And I'm like I

798
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 3: feel like, you know, for like in the case of

799
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 3: like serless Joe Jackson, like all right, like you're not

800
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:16,120
Speaker 3: permanently ineligible, but like maybe seventy years after you die

801
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:17,560
Speaker 3: you can get into the Hall of Fame. Like is

802
00:36:17,560 --> 00:36:21,160
Speaker 3: that a harsh enough punishment for what you did? Which,

803
00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,799
Speaker 3: like for his scandal that you know, like that's a

804
00:36:24,800 --> 00:36:27,839
Speaker 3: big one. Like they threw the World Series. Yeah, there's

805
00:36:27,880 --> 00:36:29,960
Speaker 3: no real evidence that he did, because his numbers are

806
00:36:29,960 --> 00:36:32,080
Speaker 3: really good in that World series and he was kind

807
00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 3: of like a not very smart guy apparently, so there

808
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,680
Speaker 3: are theories out there that like he wasn't in on

809
00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,040
Speaker 3: it even though he kind of knew and was like

810
00:36:39,080 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 3: still playing as hard as as they forget what the

811
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 3: numbers are, but he batted over three hundred but no

812
00:36:44,160 --> 00:36:47,080
Speaker 3: errors in that game, yeah, or in that series, but

813
00:36:47,120 --> 00:36:48,960
Speaker 3: like you kind of get it, like okay, like this

814
00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:51,440
Speaker 3: is a major thing. You can't throw a world series

815
00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:53,319
Speaker 3: and then get into the get into the Hall of Fame.

816
00:36:53,840 --> 00:36:57,760
Speaker 3: But the Pete Rose one was like it's been debated

817
00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,719
Speaker 3: for like decades, and he's kind of gone back and

818
00:37:00,719 --> 00:37:03,880
Speaker 3: forth with like multiple commissioners like in baseball, and it

819
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:05,799
Speaker 3: seemed like at one point it almost felt like it

820
00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,200
Speaker 3: was like me dealing with my son, where they were

821
00:37:07,239 --> 00:37:08,680
Speaker 3: like just say sorry, I'm in the Hall of Fame,

822
00:37:08,719 --> 00:37:11,920
Speaker 3: and he was like no, no, I refuse, And it

823
00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 3: almost seemed like, like you said, like if he carried

824
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,839
Speaker 3: himself better and was like more apologetic and like worked

825
00:37:16,880 --> 00:37:18,560
Speaker 3: with Major League Baseball, he probably would have gotten in.

826
00:37:18,880 --> 00:37:20,880
Speaker 3: But he just kind of acted like a jerk about it.

827
00:37:21,880 --> 00:37:23,400
Speaker 3: But I do think it's kind of weird that they

828
00:37:23,400 --> 00:37:24,920
Speaker 3: were like okay, like you're not getting in the Hall

829
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 3: of Fame, and then you die and they're like okay,

830
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:26,880
Speaker 3: maybe now.

831
00:37:27,120 --> 00:37:29,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like like I guess, yeah, I guess that's my thoughts.

832
00:37:29,400 --> 00:37:30,799
Speaker 2: Like if you want to dig your heels in and

833
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,239
Speaker 2: say Piros will never be in the Hall of Fame,

834
00:37:34,440 --> 00:37:36,520
Speaker 2: I can understand that, thinking like, at the end of

835
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:38,399
Speaker 2: the day, it is a museum and it's really hard

836
00:37:38,400 --> 00:37:39,920
Speaker 2: to tell the story of Major League Baseball with that.

837
00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 1: It's a woll time hits leader.

838
00:37:41,920 --> 00:37:46,000
Speaker 2: So like I I tend to be on the side

839
00:37:46,000 --> 00:37:50,680
Speaker 2: of letting people in as long as they're on field,

840
00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:53,840
Speaker 2: play warranted. I'm a pretty small hall guy in terms

841
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 2: of the performance threshold you need to get in, but

842
00:37:57,080 --> 00:38:00,600
Speaker 2: I'm a big hall guy in terms of there's stuff

843
00:38:00,640 --> 00:38:02,319
Speaker 2: around that because it is a museum at the end

844
00:38:02,320 --> 00:38:03,839
Speaker 2: of the day. But if you want to like take

845
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 2: a hard stance on it, I'm okay with that. It

846
00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 2: just feels kind of cruel to say, well, now that

847
00:38:11,239 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: he's dead, we're gonna lift this, like honestly, like at

848
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,759
Speaker 2: the end of the day, like it doesn't matter that much, right,

849
00:38:20,840 --> 00:38:26,279
Speaker 2: Like it's like life is short, right, We're we're gonna

850
00:38:26,320 --> 00:38:29,480
Speaker 2: get to kind of celebrate this fun, silly game in

851
00:38:29,520 --> 00:38:31,680
Speaker 2: a really meaningful way. And I love it and I

852
00:38:31,719 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 2: take it very seriously. By the end of the day,

853
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:36,200
Speaker 2: it is just a game, and you're gonna like punish

854
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,160
Speaker 2: a guy who like basically gave his whole life to

855
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,720
Speaker 2: this sport, and the punish him in a way that says,

856
00:38:44,280 --> 00:38:46,839
Speaker 2: we will give this to you, but not when you

857
00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:50,360
Speaker 2: are around to recognize and enjoy it. It just feels

858
00:38:50,400 --> 00:38:53,120
Speaker 2: kind of harsh. Like again, it feels harsher to do this.

859
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Then it would be to just never let him in.

860
00:38:55,320 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's it's an odd move from an odd commissioner

861
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:00,759
Speaker 3: who I don't I agree with them.

862
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:04,960
Speaker 2: That is also another conversation for another episode is our

863
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,840
Speaker 2: thoughts on Manfred. All right, well, we'll go ahead and

864
00:39:08,040 --> 00:39:10,480
Speaker 2: wrap up this on that. Be sure to check out

865
00:39:11,000 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 2: our other episodes of the cycle. This week, We've got

866
00:39:12,840 --> 00:39:14,760
Speaker 2: two more coming your way. We've got some buys and sells,

867
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Speaker 2: some waiver picks, some pitching streamers, all that good stuff

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Speaker 2: as per usual.

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Speaker 1: That's both on video and on audio. Before this episode.

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Speaker 1: For mayor, I'm Brian Warmley. Thanks for tuning in. We'll

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Speaker 1: see again next time.

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