1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:06,480 Speaker 1: And now moved the sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks. 2 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:10,560 Speaker 1: What's off everybody? D J Bucky here moved the sticks 3 00:00:10,920 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: coming off Bucky? What was I don't know? Was that 4 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,800 Speaker 1: the most entertaining football game, regular season football game you've 5 00:00:16,800 --> 00:00:18,800 Speaker 1: ever seen? I mean, it was one of the most 6 00:00:19,079 --> 00:00:22,239 Speaker 1: entertaining games that I've watched. UM. And it's kind of 7 00:00:22,239 --> 00:00:24,560 Speaker 1: crazy because, like a lot of people have been tweeting out, 8 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: it was kind of like a Big twelve game and 9 00:00:26,720 --> 00:00:29,639 Speaker 1: it absolutely was like you couldn't get up to go 10 00:00:29,680 --> 00:00:33,000 Speaker 1: get a drink and you come back and someone scored. Uh, 11 00:00:33,040 --> 00:00:34,520 Speaker 1: I mean you kind of I was kind of trapped 12 00:00:34,560 --> 00:00:37,640 Speaker 1: to the couch watching the game, and I think there's 13 00:00:37,680 --> 00:00:40,880 Speaker 1: so many things that look it was musty TV, it 14 00:00:41,000 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: was a Marquee matchup. These are the two teams that 15 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:47,040 Speaker 1: people have been talking about. And I think in our industry, UM, 16 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:49,800 Speaker 1: in the scouting community, I think a lot of executives 17 00:00:49,800 --> 00:00:53,080 Speaker 1: tuned into that game because that is what football is 18 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,560 Speaker 1: and that is where football is going. And so I 19 00:00:55,600 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: think there are a lot of team building lessons that 20 00:00:58,200 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 1: can be learned from just watching day game. When it 21 00:01:01,400 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: comes to building, what we think are a premier team 22 00:01:04,520 --> 00:01:07,800 Speaker 1: in this current landscape. Yeah, I want to definitely go 23 00:01:07,920 --> 00:01:11,000 Speaker 1: deep on that and UH on today's pod talk about 24 00:01:11,040 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 1: what this means for the future going forward, just the 25 00:01:13,280 --> 00:01:15,480 Speaker 1: impact of this game. That wasn't just you know, a 26 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:18,160 Speaker 1: high scoring, entertaining game. This is a game everybody was 27 00:01:18,160 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 1: paying attention to. Is Bucky just alluded to? UM? And 28 00:01:21,000 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 1: I do think it as an impact. I think what 29 00:01:22,640 --> 00:01:24,119 Speaker 1: we saw on the Super Bowl last year, I think 30 00:01:24,160 --> 00:01:27,120 Speaker 1: that game has an impact on on team building and 31 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 1: thoughts moving forward. And I think this game kind of 32 00:01:29,760 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: reinforced that. So we're gonna dump do a little deep 33 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:34,480 Speaker 1: dive there on that ball game. We're also going to 34 00:01:34,640 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: preview the three Thanksgiving Day games Bears, Lions, Redskins, Cowboys, Falcons, Saints, 35 00:01:41,840 --> 00:01:43,720 Speaker 1: and then after we get through with that, we are 36 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:45,760 Speaker 1: going to We're gonna roll a little something we did 37 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 1: the other day where we were talking about the fatal 38 00:01:47,880 --> 00:01:50,520 Speaker 1: flaws for these teams that are leading to divisions and 39 00:01:50,520 --> 00:01:52,400 Speaker 1: there are no perfect teams in the NFL. You saw that, 40 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:56,200 Speaker 1: UH on display in that entertaining game with the Chiefs 41 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,560 Speaker 1: and the Rams. All these teams have some issues. So 42 00:01:58,600 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: we're gonna go through each of the division leaders and 43 00:02:01,120 --> 00:02:03,960 Speaker 1: uh and talk about what their fatal flaw might be. 44 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:06,240 Speaker 1: But I want to start here with that game last 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:09,280 Speaker 1: night buck uh biggest takeaway. I mean, you look, you've 46 00:02:09,280 --> 00:02:12,760 Speaker 1: got Mahomes who was gave you the whole, the whole 47 00:02:13,040 --> 00:02:15,600 Speaker 1: Pat Mahomes experience. Right, you get the you get the 48 00:02:15,600 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 1: six touchdown passes darn near five hundred yards, some unbelievable 49 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,880 Speaker 1: highlight plays, and then you also have five turnovers. So 50 00:02:23,000 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: it was it was a it was a it was 51 00:02:25,919 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: a unique experience, man, going on the Mahomes roller coaster 52 00:02:28,840 --> 00:02:31,240 Speaker 1: in that ball game. Yeah, I think the thing that 53 00:02:31,280 --> 00:02:33,600 Speaker 1: can be learned from that. Look, Pat Mahomes has been great. 54 00:02:33,600 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 1: He's been great, uh throughout this season. He's worthy of 55 00:02:36,560 --> 00:02:39,320 Speaker 1: being in the m v P discussion. UM. But Pat 56 00:02:39,360 --> 00:02:42,120 Speaker 1: Mahomes is the player that we thought he would be 57 00:02:42,200 --> 00:02:45,519 Speaker 1: at Texas Tech. Meaning he's going to be a wild player, 58 00:02:45,560 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: but he's also gonna have some WOA moments where you 59 00:02:48,160 --> 00:02:50,000 Speaker 1: just kind of want him to play within the confines 60 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:53,480 Speaker 1: of the offense and just understand how to manage the game. 61 00:02:53,480 --> 00:02:55,000 Speaker 1: And I know a lot of times when people here 62 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:58,639 Speaker 1: game manager, it is kind of done with the negative connotation, 63 00:02:59,040 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: But there was a time in that game where you 64 00:03:01,440 --> 00:03:03,880 Speaker 1: didn't necessarily need Pat Mahomes to make a play. You 65 00:03:03,880 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: just need him to manage the situation. That last sequence 66 00:03:07,480 --> 00:03:10,040 Speaker 1: of plays in the two minute drill, they're only down 67 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 1: the field goal. They don't need a touchdown to win. Um. 68 00:03:13,200 --> 00:03:15,359 Speaker 1: They you know, didn't have any time else. But there 69 00:03:15,440 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 1: was plenty enough time for them to get into field 70 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:20,440 Speaker 1: goal range and for him to on multiple occasion it's 71 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: kind of just tossed the ball up. Um kind of 72 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:26,760 Speaker 1: hero throws There were unnecessary. Those are the things that 73 00:03:26,800 --> 00:03:28,680 Speaker 1: you're trying to kind of get out of his game. 74 00:03:29,040 --> 00:03:31,839 Speaker 1: Understand what the situation is, Throw the ball away. Let's 75 00:03:31,840 --> 00:03:34,440 Speaker 1: continue to kind of just work the ball down the field. 76 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:36,840 Speaker 1: There's a time and a place where the hero throws 77 00:03:36,880 --> 00:03:39,920 Speaker 1: and the spectacular plays and the like, and so as 78 00:03:39,920 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: he plays more and as he gets more experienced, maybe 79 00:03:42,400 --> 00:03:44,640 Speaker 1: he'll learn how to kind of manage the game. He's 80 00:03:44,640 --> 00:03:47,240 Speaker 1: a spectacular talent, but you just want to make sure 81 00:03:47,320 --> 00:03:49,760 Speaker 1: that the decision making is always on par so they 82 00:03:49,760 --> 00:03:52,920 Speaker 1: can be a championship team. Yeah. Look, both these uh, 83 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: both these offenses were incredible in this game. Buck, I mean, 84 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:57,560 Speaker 1: my one of that. Takeaways I would have from this 85 00:03:57,600 --> 00:04:01,240 Speaker 1: ball game is I do think that Chiefs are more 86 00:04:01,280 --> 00:04:04,680 Speaker 1: explosive with what they have offensively, what they present. I 87 00:04:04,680 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: thought they looked like the more explosive football team. I 88 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:09,520 Speaker 1: thought the Rams were the were the smarter football team 89 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:11,640 Speaker 1: in this game when you look at how they protected 90 00:04:11,640 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 1: the football East Year goff and thrown he picks uh 91 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,679 Speaker 1: clip kept a clean sheet there. Obviously the sac Forge 92 00:04:16,720 --> 00:04:19,760 Speaker 1: fumble got to him uh in this ball game, but 93 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 1: decision making throwing the football, they were a little bit smarter. Penalties. 94 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:26,279 Speaker 1: Penalties were huge in this game, thirteen for one, thirty 95 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,279 Speaker 1: five for the Chiefs, And I know, I know people 96 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 1: say that's got some home cooking there with the Rams, 97 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: but man, they showed replays. I haven't gone back and 98 00:04:33,560 --> 00:04:35,600 Speaker 1: watched the All twenty two, but it didn't see there 99 00:04:35,600 --> 00:04:37,840 Speaker 1: any fantom calls out there, and it looked for the 100 00:04:37,920 --> 00:04:40,000 Speaker 1: most part, they look like they were legitimate outside of 101 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:42,960 Speaker 1: one unnecessary roughness over the middle, which I thought was 102 00:04:43,040 --> 00:04:44,920 Speaker 1: kind of a cheap call and a hit, but that's 103 00:04:44,960 --> 00:04:46,280 Speaker 1: about the only one I can think of. The rest 104 00:04:46,320 --> 00:04:48,760 Speaker 1: of them they rightfully earned. So you had penalties, you 105 00:04:48,800 --> 00:04:51,799 Speaker 1: had turnovers, and then you had some some questionable decisions 106 00:04:51,839 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 1: in the return game, especially at the very end there 107 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:56,000 Speaker 1: by Tyreek Hill fielding that ball and and costing your 108 00:04:56,000 --> 00:04:58,320 Speaker 1: team some precious field position when you're only chasing three points. 109 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,840 Speaker 1: You know, I think the best way to look at 110 00:04:59,839 --> 00:05:01,680 Speaker 1: these game is it kind of let's let's let's break 111 00:05:01,680 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 1: it down by both teams. So you talked about the Chiefs, 112 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 1: and let's talk about what we learned from them, because 113 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,560 Speaker 1: you talked about them being the most explosive team, and 114 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:11,200 Speaker 1: on my paper before you jumped on, I kind of 115 00:05:11,279 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 1: wrote that down. I think what they have done um, 116 00:05:14,600 --> 00:05:16,840 Speaker 1: when you look at their drafting philosophy and the way 117 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,960 Speaker 1: they acquire players, they play some huge premium even when 118 00:05:20,040 --> 00:05:26,840 Speaker 1: John Dorriston was there on athleticism, the measurables UM, speed, explosiveness, UM, 119 00:05:27,200 --> 00:05:30,000 Speaker 1: vertical jumps, all those things, and so what they have created, 120 00:05:30,320 --> 00:05:34,160 Speaker 1: they've created a very, very explosive team where guys can 121 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: score from anywhere on the field. Tyreek Hill is a 122 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:42,120 Speaker 1: perfect example. Super fast player, great athlete. Um wasn't necessarily 123 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,720 Speaker 1: a refined player when he came into the league, but 124 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:48,560 Speaker 1: they felt like they could develop and cultivate those skills 125 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:51,479 Speaker 1: and you put that on top of the natural explosiveness 126 00:05:51,560 --> 00:05:53,440 Speaker 1: that he had. You see a guy that can score 127 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,880 Speaker 1: touchdowns any anywhere, at any time on the field. I 128 00:05:57,920 --> 00:06:01,200 Speaker 1: think in Travis Kelsey, I think it's another case super athlete, 129 00:06:01,440 --> 00:06:03,720 Speaker 1: a guy that was tremendously talented. When he came out 130 00:06:03,720 --> 00:06:06,320 Speaker 1: of Cincinnati. You knew that he could make some plays. 131 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 1: Wasn't necessarily a polished product. But once again, they took 132 00:06:10,040 --> 00:06:13,840 Speaker 1: the explosive athlete, taught him a level of skills, gave 133 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:17,320 Speaker 1: him some technique, and he's become an explosive player. Pat 134 00:06:17,400 --> 00:06:20,200 Speaker 1: Mahomes is the final example of that. Pat Mahomes when 135 00:06:20,200 --> 00:06:21,520 Speaker 1: you looked at him on table Man, you're like, man, 136 00:06:21,560 --> 00:06:24,520 Speaker 1: he's spectacularly he has all these things or whatever, but 137 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,360 Speaker 1: he's raw. But the natural tools were there, big arm, mobile, 138 00:06:28,480 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: enough could throw it out the stadium. Andy Reid takes him, says, 139 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: I can develop him, give him some tools, and because 140 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:38,000 Speaker 1: of that, because they're so explosive collectively as athletes, you're 141 00:06:38,040 --> 00:06:40,840 Speaker 1: seeing them light up the board. But also because of that, 142 00:06:41,200 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: you have to live through some of those tough moments 143 00:06:43,400 --> 00:06:47,279 Speaker 1: because they may not necessarily be the most football savvy 144 00:06:47,400 --> 00:06:49,520 Speaker 1: players that you can find. And so if they put 145 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:53,200 Speaker 1: a premium on athleticism, speed and explosiveness which allows him 146 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: to score a ton of points, you just wonder when 147 00:06:56,480 --> 00:06:58,800 Speaker 1: you put it all together, can they be disciplined enough 148 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,040 Speaker 1: or technically sound enough to win games against very, very 149 00:07:02,120 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: discipline and sound teams. Another takeaway for me, that's great 150 00:07:06,120 --> 00:07:08,599 Speaker 1: stuff there, Bucket. To me, you mentioned just the speed 151 00:07:09,080 --> 00:07:11,120 Speaker 1: with Tyreek Hill and some speed you have on that 152 00:07:11,280 --> 00:07:14,360 Speaker 1: Chiefs team. I thought this was a display of speed 153 00:07:14,400 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: all the way around both sides of the ball. When 154 00:07:16,480 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 1: you looked at the speed, it was at a premium. 155 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: When you look at the job that Tyreek Hill did 156 00:07:21,120 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: ten for two fifteen. Uh, Kelsey, who's extremely explosive for 157 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:27,280 Speaker 1: a tight end, goes ten for one seven. Flip it over. 158 00:07:27,360 --> 00:07:29,760 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks ran the four threes. He had eight for 159 00:07:29,840 --> 00:07:32,960 Speaker 1: one oh seven. Uh So the speed was there, obviously, 160 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:34,960 Speaker 1: Girly I thought, when, by the way, do you see 161 00:07:34,960 --> 00:07:37,320 Speaker 1: the interview with Girly after the game, I did seem 162 00:07:37,360 --> 00:07:39,920 Speaker 1: a little he seemed a little bit frustrated and and 163 00:07:40,040 --> 00:07:42,840 Speaker 1: I I would understand it. They won the football game. Um, 164 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:44,480 Speaker 1: but just I don't know if I was reading into 165 00:07:44,520 --> 00:07:47,400 Speaker 1: it or not, but it seems utilize got a little 166 00:07:47,400 --> 00:07:50,320 Speaker 1: frustrated there. He's your best player, this is a major 167 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: stage and he's playing as a back seat. Um, he 168 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: has been the game carries, not enough touches. Like even 169 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 1: even if you didn't get him more carries, he has 170 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:02,880 Speaker 1: to be more involved. And I think when Sean McVeigh 171 00:08:03,000 --> 00:08:05,680 Speaker 1: looks back at the tape, he'll probably say, I probably 172 00:08:05,720 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 1: could have used number thirty to control the game a 173 00:08:08,560 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 1: little bit. I probably could have given him the ball, 174 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 1: could have slowed the tempo down, could have kept Pat 175 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: Mahomes in that offense on the sideline by utilizing Girly. Look, 176 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:18,920 Speaker 1: it's a learning experience for everybody talking about a second 177 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 1: year coach still trying to figure out his way navigating 178 00:08:22,240 --> 00:08:24,920 Speaker 1: UH this team on a championship run. I do believe 179 00:08:24,960 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: for Ty Gurley they could have utilized him a little 180 00:08:27,720 --> 00:08:30,280 Speaker 1: more and allowed him to kind of put his talents 181 00:08:30,280 --> 00:08:32,880 Speaker 1: on display on the main stage. Well, I want to 182 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,800 Speaker 1: hit the Rams defense here too real quick, because sticking 183 00:08:35,840 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: with that speed and explosiveness theme, you know, Aaron Donald 184 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:41,800 Speaker 1: makes his presence known in a big way, UH with 185 00:08:41,920 --> 00:08:44,200 Speaker 1: a couple of sacks and just huge plays, but really 186 00:08:44,320 --> 00:08:47,119 Speaker 1: kind of the star of the day. Two defensive touchdowns 187 00:08:47,559 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: for Sampson, Ebucammon and Uh going back to when he 188 00:08:50,360 --> 00:08:52,559 Speaker 1: was coming out of college now he was at Eastern Washington. 189 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:54,960 Speaker 1: He was there in the same class as Cooper Cup. 190 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,839 Speaker 1: Uh coming out now this is I went back and 191 00:08:57,840 --> 00:09:00,360 Speaker 1: look at my notes. He was six oh and seven, 192 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:04,599 Speaker 1: so just under sixty pounds. He verified he ran a 193 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:08,040 Speaker 1: four or five flat. So that's the type of speed 194 00:09:08,080 --> 00:09:12,679 Speaker 1: he head. He vertical thirty nine. So my notes on 195 00:09:12,800 --> 00:09:16,600 Speaker 1: him explosive, great effort, all caps. He's a little stiff, 196 00:09:16,920 --> 00:09:19,520 Speaker 1: plays with his hand down, his hand up, love little 197 00:09:19,559 --> 00:09:22,320 Speaker 1: dip rip move. He killed Washington State. Well, I always 198 00:09:22,320 --> 00:09:24,319 Speaker 1: look at these guys when they're playing at the I 199 00:09:24,440 --> 00:09:26,480 Speaker 1: just what the I still called one double a whatever 200 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,440 Speaker 1: you wanna called f FCS level. When they step up 201 00:09:29,480 --> 00:09:31,680 Speaker 1: in competition, how do they do? He killed Washington State? 202 00:09:31,720 --> 00:09:33,240 Speaker 1: And then I just wrote at the very end special 203 00:09:33,320 --> 00:09:36,240 Speaker 1: motor um. So when you had that speed on a 204 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:39,080 Speaker 1: field where there was so much speed on display, really 205 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:40,559 Speaker 1: kind of the difference in the game, you could say 206 00:09:40,640 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 1: was Aaron Donald's speeding athleticism and Epplecam's speeding athleticism to 207 00:09:44,440 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: create the plays they generated, you know, and and thinking 208 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: about that, Um, the construction of of the rams you 209 00:09:51,000 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 1: are talking about. Explosive athletes did have. Aaron Donald super explosive. 210 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: We saw it when he was coming out of pit, 211 00:09:56,640 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 1: his ability to get in the backfield, the way he 212 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,160 Speaker 1: dominated Senior Bowl, the way he continued to put up 213 00:10:01,200 --> 00:10:03,600 Speaker 1: big numbers at the Combine. He was an all star 214 00:10:03,880 --> 00:10:07,000 Speaker 1: when it came to being the athlete. Um, you talk 215 00:10:07,040 --> 00:10:09,360 Speaker 1: about some of the other guys, Brandon Cooks being explosive, 216 00:10:09,400 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: said the fast Gerald Everett. But I'm going through and 217 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:15,320 Speaker 1: looking through in that same Yeah. So, so a lot 218 00:10:15,400 --> 00:10:18,560 Speaker 1: of closeness that they have, I think, UM, the one 219 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,840 Speaker 1: thing that maybe they have kind of augmented the explosive 220 00:10:21,880 --> 00:10:25,160 Speaker 1: players that they have around them. UM, Robert Woods and 221 00:10:25,240 --> 00:10:27,360 Speaker 1: I know Cooper Cup didn't play in this game, but 222 00:10:27,480 --> 00:10:30,959 Speaker 1: these guys are refined players. And Robert Woods was a 223 00:10:31,000 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: really good four hundred run or two hundred, four hundred 224 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,599 Speaker 1: runner in high school. Um, it's still plenty fast, but 225 00:10:37,120 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: technicians high i Q guys, guys that are versatile. They 226 00:10:40,440 --> 00:10:42,320 Speaker 1: talked about their receiver has been able to play multiple 227 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,040 Speaker 1: spots and doing those things. And then when you have 228 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: the trigger man and Jared Goff. I think Jerry Golf 229 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 1: is a perfect fit in this offense that Sean mcveigh's created, because, look, 230 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: I've always felt like when he was coming out that 231 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,199 Speaker 1: he didn't get enough credit for his i Q and 232 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:57,480 Speaker 1: I think some of that had to do with the 233 00:10:57,520 --> 00:10:59,719 Speaker 1: Bear Ray system that he played in. But I think 234 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 1: you're seeing he has some autonomy at the line of scrimmage. 235 00:11:03,760 --> 00:11:05,439 Speaker 1: He has the ability to kind of make some things 236 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:07,440 Speaker 1: happen and they go in and out of a fast 237 00:11:07,480 --> 00:11:10,800 Speaker 1: pace to allow them to find advantageous master ups. But 238 00:11:10,920 --> 00:11:14,000 Speaker 1: I think this play action pass attack with Jared Golf 239 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,160 Speaker 1: pulling the trigger, with these explosive athletes and these technical 240 00:11:17,320 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: route runners, really really works. And I think the thing 241 00:11:20,640 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 1: that the rest of the league, I mean, Saints notwithstanding, 242 00:11:23,840 --> 00:11:25,760 Speaker 1: and some of the other teams will have to do 243 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,719 Speaker 1: is how do we want to build our team? Because one, 244 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:31,040 Speaker 1: you gotta build your team to win your division, but 245 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: you also have to have an eye on the teams 246 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: that are lording over the conference. How can I build 247 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:37,520 Speaker 1: my team to do it? I do believe you will 248 00:11:37,559 --> 00:11:41,679 Speaker 1: start seeing some changes on draft Day in terms of 249 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,080 Speaker 1: the players that come off the board. We may see 250 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:48,400 Speaker 1: guys place a premium on explosiveness and athleticism and bank 251 00:11:48,480 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: on their coaching staff to coach those guys up. It'll 252 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:53,480 Speaker 1: be it'll be interesting to see how this plays out 253 00:11:53,520 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: when we get to the draft season. Yeah. I don't 254 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:57,480 Speaker 1: know if you saw it. Actually I know you saw 255 00:11:57,480 --> 00:11:59,440 Speaker 1: because we ended up talking on the phone last night 256 00:11:59,480 --> 00:12:01,679 Speaker 1: about this. But I tweeted out last night during the 257 00:12:01,760 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 1: game that, man, this is a rough night if you're 258 00:12:04,080 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: a run stuffing defensive tackle coming into the draft, and look, 259 00:12:09,080 --> 00:12:10,400 Speaker 1: it is what it is when you look at a 260 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: game like this with the two running backs are in 261 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:15,559 Speaker 1: this game, that you have the best running back in 262 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,480 Speaker 1: the NFL, probably in Todd Gurley. Um, you've got Kareem Hunt, 263 00:12:19,480 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: who has established himself as a top five running back 264 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:24,640 Speaker 1: in the NFL. And in a game of that of 265 00:12:24,720 --> 00:12:27,960 Speaker 1: that type of importance, Todd Gurley carries the ball twelve times, 266 00:12:28,000 --> 00:12:30,200 Speaker 1: Cream Hunt carries at fourteen times. The ball goes up 267 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:32,400 Speaker 1: in the air for Mahomes forty six times, for Jared 268 00:12:32,440 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 1: Goff goes up forty nine times. So if you're building 269 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: your team and you're looking at defensive lineman, he can 270 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 1: stop the run. He's he's stout the point of attack. Okay, 271 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:41,520 Speaker 1: that's great, what about the fifty snaps? I need to 272 00:12:41,600 --> 00:12:44,280 Speaker 1: rush the passer? Uh. If he's not gonna be able 273 00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:47,080 Speaker 1: to contribute and be a factor as a pass rusher, 274 00:12:47,880 --> 00:12:49,199 Speaker 1: I don't know that you can take him in the 275 00:12:49,240 --> 00:12:51,600 Speaker 1: first round right now, unless you've got everything else filled 276 00:12:51,600 --> 00:12:53,400 Speaker 1: on your on your team, you've got everything else filled, 277 00:12:53,400 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: and go ahead take it. He's a great player. You 278 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,400 Speaker 1: can stop the run, that's great. But with the way 279 00:12:57,480 --> 00:13:00,000 Speaker 1: the game is played right now, if you're a defense 280 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:02,560 Speaker 1: to the lineman that does not rush the passer, uh, 281 00:13:02,640 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 1: you're in trouble. Buck your your your stock is taking 282 00:13:04,640 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: an all time hit. It has taken an all time hit. 283 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:09,959 Speaker 1: And I also think, like what this game did? It 284 00:13:10,120 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: kind of exposed um the priorities of positions, particularly on 285 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:16,719 Speaker 1: the defense side of the ball. Uh. For so long 286 00:13:16,760 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: we always talked about pass rusher number one, cornerback number two. 287 00:13:20,360 --> 00:13:22,559 Speaker 1: I don't know if we can rent a cornerback that 288 00:13:22,760 --> 00:13:26,360 Speaker 1: high anymore, because I just don't know in today's game, 289 00:13:26,760 --> 00:13:28,599 Speaker 1: where you can't really put your hands on receivers to 290 00:13:28,640 --> 00:13:31,040 Speaker 1: disrupt the time again the releases, I don't know if 291 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:34,400 Speaker 1: you can find someone skilled enough at corner to marry 292 00:13:34,640 --> 00:13:38,200 Speaker 1: taking as a top ten pick. I think it will flip. 293 00:13:38,440 --> 00:13:40,599 Speaker 1: We'll talk about the pass rushers, and now we'll have 294 00:13:40,760 --> 00:13:44,160 Speaker 1: outside pass rushers and inside pass rushers, and then I 295 00:13:44,280 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 1: think after that we talked about the we talked about 296 00:13:47,679 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: on the phone, the off the line linebackers. I think 297 00:13:51,440 --> 00:13:55,559 Speaker 1: the explosive linebackers that can cover and can blitz. I 298 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:59,520 Speaker 1: believe they probably become a higher priority than your cornerback 299 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,480 Speaker 1: because and being able to integrate them into the pass rush, 300 00:14:03,800 --> 00:14:05,360 Speaker 1: being able to do some things where they can cover 301 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: the guys over the middle of field, be at the 302 00:14:06,960 --> 00:14:09,520 Speaker 1: tight ends, be at the running backs. I just believe 303 00:14:09,559 --> 00:14:14,280 Speaker 1: it's going to be um easier to find those guys. 304 00:14:14,400 --> 00:14:17,559 Speaker 1: Didn't define the elite, premier cornerback that you're going to 305 00:14:17,720 --> 00:14:20,840 Speaker 1: ask to lock up and play in space against the 306 00:14:20,880 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks of Tyreek Hill and the light because we've 307 00:14:23,600 --> 00:14:27,480 Speaker 1: seen some explosive athletes on the island who cannot stay 308 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,360 Speaker 1: with Jackson and Brandon Cooks and those guys. Yeah, we 309 00:14:31,400 --> 00:14:33,720 Speaker 1: talked about Adore Jackson and one of the best athletes, 310 00:14:34,520 --> 00:14:36,560 Speaker 1: I mean, t Y Hilton had his way. I just 311 00:14:36,600 --> 00:14:38,560 Speaker 1: don't know if we're gonna find cornerbacks that can hold 312 00:14:38,640 --> 00:14:41,320 Speaker 1: up like that, So I think their value I mean, 313 00:14:41,360 --> 00:14:43,320 Speaker 1: I guess you could see it increases. I just don't 314 00:14:43,360 --> 00:14:45,800 Speaker 1: know if there are enough playing in college football to 315 00:14:46,000 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: marry taking one in top ten. So we've done this before. 316 00:14:49,760 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 1: We would always talk about ranking positions, and we will 317 00:14:52,640 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: go by positions, and and for those who don't know, 318 00:14:54,520 --> 00:14:57,160 Speaker 1: and Blucky myself, we've been inside these draft rooms working 319 00:14:57,200 --> 00:14:59,440 Speaker 1: for teams on the personnel side. So when you set 320 00:14:59,520 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: up your draft off board, it's be just like if 321 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 1: you're doing a fantasy football draft. You have the different 322 00:15:03,120 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: columns you can click on. It's done by position. So 323 00:15:05,600 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 1: your board is set up, You've got your positions working 324 00:15:07,880 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 1: left to right, offense to defense. You know, quarterback, running back, receiver, 325 00:15:11,760 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 1: tight end, tackle, guard, center, and on and on and 326 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,440 Speaker 1: on all the way down the board. So we've always 327 00:15:16,480 --> 00:15:18,240 Speaker 1: tried to say, how do you rank the importance when 328 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,200 Speaker 1: you're building your roster? What's the pecking order? What are 329 00:15:21,240 --> 00:15:23,640 Speaker 1: the most important positions? And everybody, well obviously knows quarterback 330 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 1: is is number one on that list. But I was 331 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:29,200 Speaker 1: thinking about it this morning and we've we've we've talked 332 00:15:29,240 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 1: about this in some of right, I don't know that 333 00:15:31,320 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: we've totally nailed it down, Buck, and so I want 334 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,800 Speaker 1: to see what you what you think here. What I'm 335 00:15:35,800 --> 00:15:39,280 Speaker 1: proposing is that they are building a championship nucleus, building 336 00:15:39,400 --> 00:15:43,160 Speaker 1: a foundation, a championship foundation. I believe we talked about 337 00:15:43,240 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 1: blue chip players. We've said ten to twelve is kind 338 00:15:45,400 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 1: of the number that we've used. I'm gonna use the 339 00:15:47,520 --> 00:15:49,960 Speaker 1: number twelve and I'm gonna say this is the breakdown 340 00:15:50,120 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 1: of those twelve players. Now you can fill them in 341 00:15:52,280 --> 00:15:54,560 Speaker 1: whatever order you want when you're building your team, because 342 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:57,280 Speaker 1: if if you you can't force something that's not there, 343 00:15:57,320 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 1: if there's not a pass rusher that's there, you can't 344 00:16:00,000 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 1: force a C level player to be an A level player. 345 00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: I believe you need A level players. You need one quarterback, 346 00:16:05,360 --> 00:16:08,000 Speaker 1: two pass rushers which can come, and you can have 347 00:16:08,040 --> 00:16:10,080 Speaker 1: two inside guys, two outside guys want to be chann't 348 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: care to two guys. You can get to the quarterback. 349 00:16:12,560 --> 00:16:15,960 Speaker 1: Three offensive playmakers, which is something you've talked about with that, 350 00:16:16,080 --> 00:16:17,880 Speaker 1: you know, with the Todd Gurley type, who's you know, 351 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,920 Speaker 1: let's forget the running back receiver. You need playmakers so 352 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 1: that could be a running back, tight end, or receiver, 353 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,560 Speaker 1: but you need a level three A level playmakers on offense. 354 00:16:26,760 --> 00:16:29,400 Speaker 1: Flip it over to defense. Three A level playmakers on 355 00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:33,160 Speaker 1: defense could be a linebacker, a safety, a corner. However 356 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: you want to break that up, but you need three 357 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:37,320 Speaker 1: of them to go along with your two pass rushers, 358 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: and then you need three A level offensive lineman. I 359 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:41,560 Speaker 1: think you can play with a b or a sea 360 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,040 Speaker 1: level guard or you know here here or there, but 361 00:16:44,080 --> 00:16:46,120 Speaker 1: you've gotta be surrounded by really good players. So that's 362 00:16:46,160 --> 00:16:48,120 Speaker 1: your twelve. That's your twelve there, whichould you break down 363 00:16:48,160 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: offense defense, You at quarterback one, Offensive playmakers is three, 364 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: and then offensive line is three. So you've got seven 365 00:16:55,760 --> 00:16:59,200 Speaker 1: on seven guys on offense and five guys on defense. 366 00:16:59,280 --> 00:17:02,120 Speaker 1: That's the found a and that's a championship foundation. I mean, 367 00:17:02,160 --> 00:17:05,400 Speaker 1: I completely agree. It's it's funny um. Coming from Carolina, 368 00:17:05,440 --> 00:17:07,000 Speaker 1: we always believe that you had and you needed to 369 00:17:07,040 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 1: have tim Blutchep players to be a championship roster um. 370 00:17:10,320 --> 00:17:12,480 Speaker 1: And as we go through, I think your dozen, I 371 00:17:12,520 --> 00:17:15,959 Speaker 1: think the twelve actually is is a nice number, especially 372 00:17:16,000 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 1: when you're thinking about focus on the offensive line and 373 00:17:18,640 --> 00:17:21,199 Speaker 1: having three of those guys. And when you look at 374 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 1: the teams that are really being able to do it, Um, 375 00:17:23,840 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: I think, and maybe this is for another day to 376 00:17:26,240 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 1: look at which of the teams check off the list. 377 00:17:29,880 --> 00:17:31,879 Speaker 1: Um when I'm when I'm let's just go with the 378 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,400 Speaker 1: two teams. Let's go with the two teams that played 379 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:35,800 Speaker 1: last night. Right, Well, a lot of people agree these 380 00:17:35,840 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: are two of the three best teams in the NFL. 381 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: So let's go through and if you look at let's 382 00:17:40,520 --> 00:17:42,640 Speaker 1: start with the Chiefs and let's just go through the checklist. 383 00:17:42,680 --> 00:17:47,359 Speaker 1: The quarterback right check got it. Pass rushers to Chris Jones, 384 00:17:47,480 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 1: and then they really have three when you talk about 385 00:17:49,240 --> 00:17:52,040 Speaker 1: Chris Jones, dfour justin Houston. Yep, they've got those. So 386 00:17:52,119 --> 00:17:55,400 Speaker 1: they've got a bonus there with pass rushers. Offensive playmakers. 387 00:17:55,480 --> 00:17:59,840 Speaker 1: The numbers three absolutely, Tyreek Hill, Travis Kelsey, Cream Hunt. 388 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:02,200 Speaker 1: Not to mention you get a little bonus there with 389 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:04,359 Speaker 1: s wats, but they got three the three core guys 390 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: defensive playmakers on top of those two pass russ that's 391 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:10,639 Speaker 1: the question. This is where they fall short because Eric 392 00:18:10,880 --> 00:18:13,159 Speaker 1: eric Berry is not playing. I would say if Eric 393 00:18:13,200 --> 00:18:14,960 Speaker 1: Berry is healthy and playing at his best, he just 394 00:18:15,119 --> 00:18:17,680 Speaker 1: he would be in that category at cornerback. They don't 395 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: have one at linebacker. There's no one in the group 396 00:18:21,400 --> 00:18:23,479 Speaker 1: that I can say is a thing. I think they 397 00:18:23,560 --> 00:18:26,399 Speaker 1: fall short. And I think that Hitchens is a good player, 398 00:18:26,440 --> 00:18:29,120 Speaker 1: He's a He's a really good player, but playmaker. There's 399 00:18:29,119 --> 00:18:31,280 Speaker 1: a differently being a good player and a playman being 400 00:18:31,320 --> 00:18:33,840 Speaker 1: a playmaker. Yeah, so I I wouldn't put him in 401 00:18:33,880 --> 00:18:36,040 Speaker 1: their thing, and I think so that could be the 402 00:18:36,200 --> 00:18:39,160 Speaker 1: missing piece for them when it comes to the championship 403 00:18:39,200 --> 00:18:42,520 Speaker 1: squad offensive line. I think they're fine. Um. I think 404 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 1: some would say Mitchell Schwartz would would fit in there. Uh, 405 00:18:45,640 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: depends on what you think about Eric Fisher. They're a 406 00:18:48,160 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 1: little bit beat up though. You know when you lose, 407 00:18:50,119 --> 00:18:52,200 Speaker 1: when you lose duvern A tardif that's a big loss 408 00:18:52,200 --> 00:18:53,600 Speaker 1: for them, who was one of the better guards in 409 00:18:53,640 --> 00:18:56,120 Speaker 1: the league. So, I mean, I think right just right there, 410 00:18:56,160 --> 00:18:59,280 Speaker 1: doing that exercise alone, Um, it kind of puts the 411 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,040 Speaker 1: Chiefs on the bubble when it comes to the perfect 412 00:19:02,119 --> 00:19:03,960 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. Ross doesn't mean that they can't win it. 413 00:19:04,240 --> 00:19:06,119 Speaker 1: It just means that when you're looking at the construction 414 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:08,439 Speaker 1: of their team, there's still some work to do. When 415 00:19:08,520 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 1: we think about them being, um, a team that is 416 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: a legitimate or front runner. Uh. For let's flip to 417 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:17,480 Speaker 1: the l A. Rams and let's do have the same 418 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:20,360 Speaker 1: discussion that at quarterback. Yes, I would think we say 419 00:19:20,680 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: Jared Goff would qualify, uh three offensive playmakers? Wish three 420 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 1: would you put in there? Girly? I mean girly, You've 421 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:31,680 Speaker 1: got Girly, You've got the Woods and Brandon Cooks. That's 422 00:19:31,680 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 1: your three right there, So I mean you had bonus. 423 00:19:33,520 --> 00:19:36,320 Speaker 1: They have plenty others, but those are the big three. Um. 424 00:19:36,640 --> 00:19:41,200 Speaker 1: When we go to pass rusher, they have Aaron Donald Yeah, 425 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 1: and then yeah, who's who's the company rusher? Last night 426 00:19:45,080 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: it was Sam's and Eppicamp. Yeah. You know, I haven't 427 00:19:47,359 --> 00:19:50,240 Speaker 1: seen that throughout the year. Like I mean, on paper, 428 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: we would like to say in Dominican Sue, but he 429 00:19:52,119 --> 00:19:54,159 Speaker 1: hasn't necessarily been there, he hasn't been that, and in 430 00:19:54,280 --> 00:19:58,399 Speaker 1: Dante Fowler who also hasn't necessarily been there. So they 431 00:19:58,480 --> 00:20:02,720 Speaker 1: have one in some possi bulls. Um. When it comes 432 00:20:02,760 --> 00:20:08,520 Speaker 1: to the three defensive playmakers, Um, I mean, look, Marcus 433 00:20:08,520 --> 00:20:10,520 Speaker 1: Peters has got something. He's got me up a little bit, 434 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: but he's a playmaker, all right, So so we have him, 435 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: how do we feel about anybody else? Do we say 436 00:20:15,640 --> 00:20:19,280 Speaker 1: LaMarcus Joiner? I think LaMarcus Joiners is right is right there. 437 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 1: I think he's one of the better safeties. He got 438 00:20:20,880 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: it he I think he got his hands on a 439 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:23,919 Speaker 1: football last night as well. So okay, so I think 440 00:20:23,920 --> 00:20:26,520 Speaker 1: I would put him in there. Okay, So then will 441 00:20:26,560 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: we put a keep to leave in there? When they 442 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:32,399 Speaker 1: keep to leave returns? That could be the third one, okay, 443 00:20:32,440 --> 00:20:34,520 Speaker 1: So that that kind of checks off the list there, 444 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,440 Speaker 1: and then when it comes to the three offensive lineman, yeah, 445 00:20:38,480 --> 00:20:41,000 Speaker 1: they're good. They're they're good to go there. So what 446 00:20:41,160 --> 00:20:45,080 Speaker 1: we're saying the Rams look like they're built more like 447 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:48,720 Speaker 1: a championship caliber squad than the Kann City Chiefs because 448 00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 1: they don't have necessarily the Achilles tendon that shows up 449 00:20:53,880 --> 00:20:57,280 Speaker 1: when you're looking at the Kan City Chiefs. It's interesting. 450 00:20:57,359 --> 00:21:00,240 Speaker 1: I mean, look, and this is a you know, it's 451 00:21:00,280 --> 00:21:02,080 Speaker 1: it's it's weird to say it because we're giving the 452 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:06,280 Speaker 1: Rams and edge in the offensive line category coming off 453 00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:08,680 Speaker 1: of a game where Jared Goff got heated up pretty 454 00:21:08,680 --> 00:21:11,400 Speaker 1: good by Kansas City. But I still think we look 455 00:21:11,400 --> 00:21:14,280 Speaker 1: at their individual personnel. I think they're uh, they're better 456 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,920 Speaker 1: suited right now than Kansas City, largely due to the 457 00:21:16,960 --> 00:21:20,560 Speaker 1: health there for the Chief's offensive line. Uh. But I mean, 458 00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,920 Speaker 1: I think I think it's interesting checklist though, Buck, I 459 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:25,119 Speaker 1: I think you know what's interesting too, is we know 460 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,000 Speaker 1: we could go through all these we go through all 461 00:21:27,000 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: these division teams. We're actually gonna roll something we did 462 00:21:29,560 --> 00:21:31,560 Speaker 1: a little bit earlier. We talked about a fatal flaw 463 00:21:31,640 --> 00:21:33,320 Speaker 1: for these teams, so a little bit different twist on it. 464 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,080 Speaker 1: So we'll roll that a little bit later on uh 465 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:39,719 Speaker 1: in the episode. But I was thinking about it outside 466 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 1: of those elite level teams. I was thinking of some teams. 467 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: If you're looking at who is that next team? Who 468 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,320 Speaker 1: are those teams on the come? And a couple of 469 00:21:46,359 --> 00:21:48,080 Speaker 1: teams come to mind when you go through this checklist, 470 00:21:48,080 --> 00:21:49,800 Speaker 1: why don't we go through a couple kind of off 471 00:21:49,880 --> 00:21:53,000 Speaker 1: the radar teams. We'll look at the Indianapolis Colts and 472 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,720 Speaker 1: kind of how they're being constructed right now and what 473 00:21:55,840 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: they're doing. I think if you look at the quarterback 474 00:21:58,400 --> 00:22:02,399 Speaker 1: obviously check right pass rushers. I still think that's an 475 00:22:02,400 --> 00:22:04,399 Speaker 1: area they need to fill. They need they need some 476 00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:10,320 Speaker 1: more pass rushers. UM offensive playmakers. The three offensive playmakers 477 00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:12,440 Speaker 1: for the Colts, I think, um, you know you you 478 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: you really have one big one there and t Y Hilton. Um. 479 00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:18,560 Speaker 1: I think outside that, Marlon Max a good player, Ebron 480 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,840 Speaker 1: has been a playmakers at nine touchdowns, so you have 481 00:22:20,880 --> 00:22:23,200 Speaker 1: to put so I think you could. I think the 482 00:22:23,280 --> 00:22:25,600 Speaker 1: big thing for the Colts in the off season would 483 00:22:25,600 --> 00:22:28,000 Speaker 1: be to go and get a legit big time I 484 00:22:28,080 --> 00:22:30,480 Speaker 1: mean a big time running back, a big time hired, 485 00:22:30,520 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: but a big time playmaker, someone who could be a 486 00:22:32,440 --> 00:22:34,480 Speaker 1: lethal offensive weapon for them. I think that would be 487 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 1: the thing that would push him over to top. Yeah, 488 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:38,680 Speaker 1: no question. So it's interesting to look at them what 489 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,360 Speaker 1: they have offensive line wise, they're in great shape there 490 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:44,159 Speaker 1: and uh and defensively, Darius Leonard as a as a 491 00:22:44,200 --> 00:22:47,800 Speaker 1: big time playmaker. Malik Cooker when he's healthy, is a playmaker. 492 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:49,879 Speaker 1: So they've got some of those. Some of those spots filled. 493 00:22:49,920 --> 00:22:51,680 Speaker 1: One other one real quick and was just thinking about 494 00:22:51,760 --> 00:22:54,239 Speaker 1: was the Cleveland Browns. UM a team that I think 495 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:56,440 Speaker 1: a lot of people are fascinated by and the job 496 00:22:56,480 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: that John Dorsey has done there. Um, when you look 497 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,760 Speaker 1: at what they have, I think offensive playmakers. Um, Nick 498 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:05,480 Speaker 1: Chubb has has definitely proven to be one. I think 499 00:23:05,520 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: outside of that, you're probably looking for a little more help. 500 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:14,120 Speaker 1: Duke Johnson, Yeah yeah, Jarvis Landry, yeah yeah. I would say, okay, 501 00:23:14,160 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: I'll go Nick Chubb, Jarvis and I still you need 502 00:23:16,040 --> 00:23:19,199 Speaker 1: one more, you need one more playmaker offense, quarterback. How 503 00:23:19,240 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 1: you feel about the offensive line? I think they're okay there. 504 00:23:21,600 --> 00:23:25,000 Speaker 1: I think I think but Tonio um and Zeitler are 505 00:23:25,080 --> 00:23:28,600 Speaker 1: good players. Um, I think they probably need a left tackle. 506 00:23:28,800 --> 00:23:31,520 Speaker 1: That's uh, that's gonna be a difference maker for them. There. 507 00:23:31,880 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: Defensive playmakers or defensive pass rushers. You've got Miles Garrett. 508 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,879 Speaker 1: I know they're hoping Agba would be that compliment. Um 509 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:40,560 Speaker 1: wait to be seen. Larry Ogenjobi actually is that ogan 510 00:23:40,640 --> 00:23:42,920 Speaker 1: job and Miles Garrett that's too. So they've got their 511 00:23:43,119 --> 00:23:48,160 Speaker 1: their two pass rushers, defensive playmakers. Denzel war definitely falls 512 00:23:48,200 --> 00:23:50,879 Speaker 1: in there, right, War falls in there. I think you 513 00:23:50,920 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 1: can make the case that Jamie Collins and maybe Christian 514 00:23:53,119 --> 00:23:56,520 Speaker 1: Kirkzy would would would qualify when they're healthy. Maybe Jamie 515 00:23:56,560 --> 00:23:58,600 Speaker 1: Collins is kind of a roller coaster, but yeah, up, 516 00:23:58,800 --> 00:24:01,760 Speaker 1: up and down. But interesting, like they've got some there's 517 00:24:01,840 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: some pieces they're they're on their way, all right. So 518 00:24:04,119 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 1: the team that I'm gonna say like, and everyone is 519 00:24:06,000 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 1: gonna laugh, but the team that really could be close 520 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:11,639 Speaker 1: to doing that formula that is kind of on their fringes. Uh, 521 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:14,080 Speaker 1: say what you want to about Jerry Jones the Dallas 522 00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:17,720 Speaker 1: Cowboys when you go through the checklist, Um, yeah, look 523 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,960 Speaker 1: quarterback maybe like depending on how he plays. But in 524 00:24:21,080 --> 00:24:23,879 Speaker 1: terms of the three offensive weapons, UM, I know you 525 00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,880 Speaker 1: can say that Ezekiel Elli can qualify UM. We've seen 526 00:24:26,960 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: in the past couple of weeks that maybe a Maori 527 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 1: Cooper will qualify Coen Beasley in a way, but not 528 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:34,520 Speaker 1: necessarily the championship. I'll give you two. They got to 529 00:24:34,720 --> 00:24:36,480 Speaker 1: offensive line. I think we could say that they have 530 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: three offensive lineman that would fit UM when it comes 531 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,440 Speaker 1: to that evaluation, Like Tyron Smith is on the decline, 532 00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,760 Speaker 1: but he's still is a good player. Zack Martin um 533 00:24:48,160 --> 00:24:51,560 Speaker 1: Win healthy need to senter there. So they would be 534 00:24:51,600 --> 00:24:55,480 Speaker 1: good pass rushas they have those in spades, UM, like 535 00:24:55,600 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 1: the Marx Lawrence and those guys. I think they've discovered 536 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: three defensive playmakers. Layton vander esh is one, Byron Jones 537 00:25:02,840 --> 00:25:05,119 Speaker 1: has been really good for them this year, and then 538 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,760 Speaker 1: Jalen Smith has come back and kind of play like 539 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:11,399 Speaker 1: a top level player. I don't know. I think the 540 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:15,320 Speaker 1: Cowboys are not maybe as as bad as they're made 541 00:25:15,359 --> 00:25:17,160 Speaker 1: out to be based on the record or whatever. Maybe 542 00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:19,800 Speaker 1: it's coaching, maybe it's another issue, but they appear on 543 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: paper to have enough playmates to be a team that 544 00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 1: is better than the record that they have right now. 545 00:25:24,320 --> 00:25:26,440 Speaker 1: I would say they need one more like an A 546 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:28,719 Speaker 1: level pass rusher to team up with the Marcus Lawrence. 547 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:32,399 Speaker 1: They got some good players, and Tyron Crawford's a good player. Um, 548 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: you know, Randy Gregory, you know, he's got to deal 549 00:25:34,200 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: with what he's got to deal with. It's you're you're 550 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,560 Speaker 1: kind of hoping and wishing everything's okay there. But I 551 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:40,960 Speaker 1: still think they could use another A level player to 552 00:25:41,040 --> 00:25:43,200 Speaker 1: compliment to Marcus Lawrence as as a pastor. So that 553 00:25:43,240 --> 00:25:45,719 Speaker 1: if I'm looking at priorities, I think probably finding one 554 00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:49,400 Speaker 1: more playmaker offensively, then maybe another rusher and seeing that's 555 00:25:49,440 --> 00:25:51,000 Speaker 1: the thing. The thing is, they try to invest in 556 00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:52,560 Speaker 1: a pass rusher. A couple of years ago when they 557 00:25:52,560 --> 00:25:54,680 Speaker 1: got Taco Charlton and he hasn't necessarily been the guy 558 00:25:55,440 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 1: before that. They thought it was gonna be Randy Gregory. 559 00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:59,120 Speaker 1: He had his off the field issue, so he hasn't 560 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,440 Speaker 1: been able to develop that. They have tried to go 561 00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,119 Speaker 1: in address and get the second a level playmaker on 562 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:09,600 Speaker 1: that that pass at second level, second a level pass rusher. 563 00:26:09,880 --> 00:26:11,479 Speaker 1: They just need to make sure that they can kind 564 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 1: of find a guy that can hold up and be 565 00:26:13,960 --> 00:26:16,720 Speaker 1: the guy opposite to Mark Slackers. Well, I want to 566 00:26:16,760 --> 00:26:19,399 Speaker 1: get some feedback from the listeners here. When when you 567 00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 1: listen to this, take your favorite team, run them through 568 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:25,000 Speaker 1: the checklist and then hit us. Hit us with at 569 00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,399 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks at move the sticks, and let us know 570 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,160 Speaker 1: you know where your team stands on the checklist. Again, 571 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:33,240 Speaker 1: that's one quarterback, two pass rushers, three offensive playmakers, three 572 00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:37,280 Speaker 1: defensive playmakers, and three offensive linemen. It's it's like taken 573 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:39,119 Speaker 1: him to the car washbuck takes your team to the 574 00:26:39,160 --> 00:26:40,959 Speaker 1: car washing. What it looks like when you come out 575 00:26:41,000 --> 00:26:43,200 Speaker 1: the other side. Let's get a hashtag. Let's let's do 576 00:26:43,440 --> 00:26:47,440 Speaker 1: uh empty s checklist? How about that? How about the 577 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:51,560 Speaker 1: MTS checklist? I like that. There you go, MTS checklist. 578 00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: We'll get social on this and see, uh they can 579 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,880 Speaker 1: help us out. That's fun, fun little exercise there, no question. 580 00:26:57,000 --> 00:26:59,480 Speaker 1: All right, buck, Well, we've got a great Thanksgiving coming. 581 00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: I'm only gonna get some time with family and some 582 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: good food. We have got three fantastic football games to preview. Yeah, 583 00:27:05,640 --> 00:27:07,720 Speaker 1: three games. I'm excited about it, like it's one of 584 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,760 Speaker 1: the best things about the things, given how they obviously 585 00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:11,960 Speaker 1: spending time with your family, but man, you get football 586 00:27:11,960 --> 00:27:17,440 Speaker 1: all day. What's better than that. Let's jump in Bears 587 00:27:17,520 --> 00:27:22,080 Speaker 1: that Lions. Well, a short week here for both these teams, obviously, 588 00:27:22,160 --> 00:27:24,680 Speaker 1: but the Bears, man, it was a pretty emotional win 589 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:27,240 Speaker 1: they had over the Minnesota Vikings and that kind of 590 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,480 Speaker 1: raucous atmosphere. Now they've got to go on the road 591 00:27:29,560 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 1: and take on a Lions team coming off of really 592 00:27:31,800 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: kind of a shocking win they pulled off for the Panthers. 593 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:36,800 Speaker 1: But to me, this game comes right down to the trenches. 594 00:27:37,040 --> 00:27:40,200 Speaker 1: The Bears defensive line should be able to dominate this 595 00:27:40,240 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: football game. That's where my eyes will be trained. Look that, yeah, 596 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,800 Speaker 1: as will be trained on the trenches because that's where 597 00:27:44,840 --> 00:27:47,120 Speaker 1: the toughness is really displayed. But one thing that I'm 598 00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:50,320 Speaker 1: encouraged about with the Detroit Lions. They've been practicing outside 599 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,240 Speaker 1: in the snow, so they're a little tougher team, a 600 00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:57,399 Speaker 1: little more physical mentally. The baby it's cold outside, say 601 00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:01,640 Speaker 1: I get Patricia to see that they're undefeated Sins practicing house. 602 00:28:01,680 --> 00:28:05,160 Speaker 1: That's so I'm gonna say. Thursday, I guess the Chicago Bears, 603 00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 1: their toughness will be on display. That toughness has to 604 00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:09,480 Speaker 1: come into form with the running game. They have to 605 00:28:09,520 --> 00:28:11,320 Speaker 1: find a way to get Carrie and Johnson the ball 606 00:28:11,440 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 1: if he's healthy, if he's available, to give them a 607 00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,080 Speaker 1: running check, and it takes him to pressure of Matthew Stafford. 608 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:18,680 Speaker 1: They do not want to be a one dimensional team 609 00:28:18,720 --> 00:28:26,280 Speaker 1: going against a stout Bears defense, Redskins a Cowboys. Well, 610 00:28:26,320 --> 00:28:28,440 Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Colt McCoy has gone into this 611 00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 1: building before Buck and he's come out victorious. He is 612 00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:35,280 Speaker 1: Mr Texas. Uh. Colt McCoy getting the start here after 613 00:28:35,320 --> 00:28:38,400 Speaker 1: the unfortunate injury to Alex Smith, All eyes to me 614 00:28:38,440 --> 00:28:40,880 Speaker 1: will be on him. Offensive lines. Beat up Cowboys are 615 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,560 Speaker 1: better defensively upfront than the Redskins are offensively upfront. So 616 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:46,480 Speaker 1: Colte McCoy, I'll look for him to be on the move. 617 00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: Let's change that launch point. Do not make him a 618 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:51,160 Speaker 1: sitting duck back there. Hey, this is the saving game 619 00:28:51,200 --> 00:28:53,480 Speaker 1: for the Dallas Cowboys. If Dallas Cowboys want to be back, 620 00:28:53,480 --> 00:28:55,120 Speaker 1: they want to be relevant, they want to have an 621 00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,480 Speaker 1: opportunity to win the NFC East. This is a must 622 00:28:57,520 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: win for them. Uh. They found a little bit of 623 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:01,680 Speaker 1: the recipe into formally to get wins. It is a 624 00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:04,760 Speaker 1: lot of Zeke Elliott running and catching it, doing everything 625 00:29:04,880 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 1: around him, and then sprinkling in a little Marie Cooper 626 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: and colebas with the defense playing well. If they just 627 00:29:10,280 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: followed the recipe, I think they could have a great Thanksgiving. 628 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,440 Speaker 1: This team appears to be better than Western briskin is 629 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 1: on paper. They need to play like that Falcons that Saints. Boy, 630 00:29:23,320 --> 00:29:25,240 Speaker 1: is this gonna be another shootout? I mean, we've had 631 00:29:25,320 --> 00:29:28,360 Speaker 1: the Patriots in the Chiefs, We've had the Saints and 632 00:29:28,440 --> 00:29:30,800 Speaker 1: the Rams. We've had the Rams and the Chiefs and 633 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,360 Speaker 1: now tell you what, Falcons coming off a disappointing performance 634 00:29:34,400 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: offensively against the Cowboys, I think they get that offense 635 00:29:36,960 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: cranked back up a little bit. I know the Saints 636 00:29:39,360 --> 00:29:43,040 Speaker 1: primetime Thursday Night Thanksgiving at home that's a tall order. 637 00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,600 Speaker 1: If I do think we'll see this Falcon's offense get 638 00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:47,240 Speaker 1: kicked up a little bit, and I think you'll see 639 00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: Julio Jones continue his hot streak. Yeah. I think this 640 00:29:49,920 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: is a scary game for the New Orleans Saints. It's 641 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:54,080 Speaker 1: a division game, It's an opponent that knows you very 642 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,000 Speaker 1: very well. They've had success uh beating them not only 643 00:29:57,040 --> 00:29:59,000 Speaker 1: at home but also on the road. Uh, this is 644 00:29:59,040 --> 00:30:01,360 Speaker 1: a tough one. I think for the Saints, it's about 645 00:30:01,480 --> 00:30:04,960 Speaker 1: can you keep the focus. Can you maintain the focus 646 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,080 Speaker 1: on making sure that each and every week you take 647 00:30:07,160 --> 00:30:09,800 Speaker 1: the opponent seriously, you respect him. Uh. They've been a 648 00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,320 Speaker 1: little chatty after the last couple of weeks the Philadelphia game. 649 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:16,239 Speaker 1: They need to, so we will see if they can 650 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: just kind of lock in and focus on a short week, 651 00:30:18,600 --> 00:30:21,720 Speaker 1: if Drew Brees can get his troops ready, because offensively, 652 00:30:21,760 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: they have everything that you want to going against a 653 00:30:23,840 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: battered and beleaguered UH Atlanta Falcons team, but this team 654 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:29,680 Speaker 1: was embarrassed. I think you can see the best Atlanta 655 00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,120 Speaker 1: game that we've seen from them. We'll see if the 656 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,080 Speaker 1: Saints can kind of take on that. That's gonna be 657 00:30:34,120 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: a great day of football. Cannot wait for that, all right, Buck, 658 00:30:37,360 --> 00:30:39,960 Speaker 1: This is a conversation we had just the other day, 659 00:30:40,000 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: and I thought it's it's actually a video out there. 660 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:43,480 Speaker 1: You can check out the video NFL dot com slash 661 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: MTS video YouTube dot com uh slash NFL. But I 662 00:30:46,400 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: thought the audio listeners would get a kick out of 663 00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:51,200 Speaker 1: the conversation because we're talking fatal flaws looking at the 664 00:30:51,240 --> 00:30:53,760 Speaker 1: teams that are leading each division and they're not all perfect, 665 00:30:53,800 --> 00:30:56,760 Speaker 1: so trying to identify what could be their undoing. Here's 666 00:30:56,760 --> 00:30:59,520 Speaker 1: our conversation on the fatal flaws for these division winners. 667 00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:02,480 Speaker 1: As we get to the second half of the NFL schedule, 668 00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,240 Speaker 1: the good teams are starting to separate themselves. But one 669 00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:08,240 Speaker 1: thing we know for sure, there are no perfect teams. 670 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:11,680 Speaker 1: We're looking at these teams leading divisions, but they all 671 00:31:11,680 --> 00:31:14,640 Speaker 1: have a fatal flaw. Every good team has a fatal flaw. 672 00:31:14,760 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 1: Is one of the things that you have to work around, 673 00:31:16,120 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: and that's where coaching matters. You're trying to identify what 674 00:31:19,000 --> 00:31:20,880 Speaker 1: your team is and then you try and make sure 675 00:31:20,880 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: you always put in a position to play to their strength, 676 00:31:22,960 --> 00:31:25,240 Speaker 1: minimize whatever weaknesses have shown up. All right, let's jump 677 00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:28,000 Speaker 1: in here to the fatal flaw for these division leading teams. 678 00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:29,200 Speaker 1: We've got four in the a f C, four in 679 00:31:29,240 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: the NFC. Start us off right here. Uh, the New 680 00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:34,160 Speaker 1: England Patriots. Luck to me, it's the past protection. Yeah, 681 00:31:34,200 --> 00:31:37,120 Speaker 1: it's the past protection. They cannot keep Tom Brady upright. 682 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 1: And Tom Brady, look, you're talking about an older quarterback. 683 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: You gotta played an m VP level a season ago, 684 00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,880 Speaker 1: but you still don't want to forty plus year old 685 00:31:43,920 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: quarterback taking a lot of hits. So it's about that 686 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,479 Speaker 1: offensive line. Can they shore up the offensive line? Can 687 00:31:49,520 --> 00:31:51,800 Speaker 1: they get them playing? Is one? Make sure they're playing 688 00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,320 Speaker 1: on the string. Not allow leakage in the pocket, because 689 00:31:54,360 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: we've seen when Tom Brady has time, he can pick 690 00:31:57,080 --> 00:31:59,479 Speaker 1: up it. Any defense. It is all about giving him 691 00:31:59,600 --> 00:32:01,880 Speaker 1: enough time to be an efficient passer from the pocket. 692 00:32:01,880 --> 00:32:04,000 Speaker 1: They're gonna see some big time pass rush as well 693 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,120 Speaker 1: in the a f C playoffs if it it holds 694 00:32:06,120 --> 00:32:08,160 Speaker 1: true right now, there's some big time defensive front. Sorry, 695 00:32:08,160 --> 00:32:10,600 Speaker 1: what about that? What about the Washington Redskins over the NFC. Look, 696 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:12,720 Speaker 1: when you look at the Washington riskins man, the injuries 697 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,600 Speaker 1: have really crushed them. We can talk about the offensive line. 698 00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 1: We can talk about losing Alex Smith, but now I 699 00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,440 Speaker 1: really were about the explosive playmakers on the outside. They 700 00:32:20,480 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 1: don't have anyone that really scares you as the defense, 701 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:25,239 Speaker 1: and so Adrian Peterson has been playing great, but as 702 00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: we get down the road, people are gonna take a 703 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 1: great Adrian Peterson, They're gonna make them beat them with 704 00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,280 Speaker 1: the passing game. I don't know if Cope McCoy would 705 00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:34,080 Speaker 1: have enough at his disposal to be able to pick 706 00:32:34,120 --> 00:32:35,800 Speaker 1: them apart in the passing game. And no, it'll be 707 00:32:35,800 --> 00:32:37,960 Speaker 1: interesting to see, I mean, Josh Doxson to see some signs, 708 00:32:38,040 --> 00:32:40,120 Speaker 1: some flashes there. Just need a little bit more from 709 00:32:40,120 --> 00:32:41,920 Speaker 1: that group on the outside. But I think health is 710 00:32:42,280 --> 00:32:44,280 Speaker 1: huge there with all the injuries that they've suffered. Up. 711 00:32:44,320 --> 00:32:47,840 Speaker 1: Let's let's go back to the a f C Pittsburgh Steelers. Look, look, 712 00:32:47,880 --> 00:32:50,000 Speaker 1: they can move the ball with all the players they've got. 713 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:51,680 Speaker 1: They've got a defense that's growing on me in the 714 00:32:51,720 --> 00:32:53,520 Speaker 1: way they get after the pastor I love, but just 715 00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 1: every now and then Bend just decide wants turn them 716 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:57,040 Speaker 1: all over. So that to me is the fatal flaw 717 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,000 Speaker 1: that that's gonna happen at the wrong time when you 718 00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 1: get in the postseason, Ben's got to do a better job. 719 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,600 Speaker 1: Just protect the football. If they protect the football, they 720 00:33:04,640 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: have all the pieces in place. Yeah, they have all 721 00:33:06,320 --> 00:33:09,080 Speaker 1: the pieces in place. I think been Roethlisberger's turnovers are 722 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:12,160 Speaker 1: certainly an issue. I also wanted. Is James Connor gonna 723 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:14,680 Speaker 1: be good enough to carry the load? With that in mind, 724 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 1: Ben has to be able to take care of the 725 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,640 Speaker 1: ball because it may be on his shoulders more when 726 00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:20,160 Speaker 1: they get down the stretch. All right, how about the 727 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,200 Speaker 1: how about Chicago Bears there in the n FC North, 728 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,400 Speaker 1: It comes down to quarterback play Mitchell Drobiskie. Look, they've 729 00:33:26,440 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 1: tried to play fast with them, They've gotten them out, 730 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:30,720 Speaker 1: They've encouraged him to use his legs. Matt Naggi has 731 00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,080 Speaker 1: done a great job of creating what I think is 732 00:33:33,120 --> 00:33:36,520 Speaker 1: a rare, unique and fun and innovative offense. However, it 733 00:33:36,560 --> 00:33:39,360 Speaker 1: comes down to Mr r Biscuit in his inexperience, can 734 00:33:39,520 --> 00:33:42,080 Speaker 1: he make the right place? Can he exhibit the right 735 00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,360 Speaker 1: kind of judgment that you need to to win these games? 736 00:33:44,640 --> 00:33:46,680 Speaker 1: And the stretch? It is all about the quarterback. The 737 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,680 Speaker 1: quarterback typically decide these games down to the playoffs. Mitchell 738 00:33:49,720 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 1: Drobiski's inexperience is the one thing that is holding Chicago 739 00:33:54,040 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: Bears back from being what I would say is the 740 00:33:55,840 --> 00:33:57,560 Speaker 1: front runner for the super Bowl. But doesn't feel like 741 00:33:57,560 --> 00:34:00,240 Speaker 1: you're biscuit. He's He's at least capable of doing Les 742 00:34:00,240 --> 00:34:02,240 Speaker 1: did in the postseason last year, which was stringing together 743 00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:04,400 Speaker 1: a couple of really good games. I think Trabisky is 744 00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: a better player than Boardles, so that would be my hope. 745 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:09,600 Speaker 1: With their defense, they're kind of this year's Jacksonville Jaguars. Yeah, 746 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: so they gotta play the game the right way. He 747 00:34:11,200 --> 00:34:13,239 Speaker 1: can't give the game away if he takes care of 748 00:34:13,239 --> 00:34:14,960 Speaker 1: the football, gives them a chance in the fourth quarter. 749 00:34:15,200 --> 00:34:17,520 Speaker 1: I think we've seen their defense and Clio mcinated Jackson 750 00:34:17,560 --> 00:34:19,160 Speaker 1: make enough plays to get them wins. On let's go 751 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,359 Speaker 1: back over the FC in the West, the Kansas City 752 00:34:21,440 --> 00:34:23,960 Speaker 1: Chiefs to me past defense, I mean, I know they're 753 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,520 Speaker 1: starting to show you a little bit more pass rush 754 00:34:25,600 --> 00:34:27,919 Speaker 1: there with Chris Jones doing his thing complimenting d Ford, 755 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:29,800 Speaker 1: But in the back end, I still think there's some 756 00:34:29,920 --> 00:34:32,160 Speaker 1: some holes in that secondary that can be exploited by 757 00:34:32,200 --> 00:34:34,440 Speaker 1: some of the better quarterbacks. They would see in the playoffs. Yeah, 758 00:34:34,440 --> 00:34:36,160 Speaker 1: because when you look at them in the secondary, they 759 00:34:36,160 --> 00:34:38,440 Speaker 1: don't have many A level playmakers in the back end. 760 00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:40,839 Speaker 1: They have Orlando Scandrick trying to play a big role 761 00:34:41,000 --> 00:34:43,439 Speaker 1: in terms of being their top corner, but I don't 762 00:34:43,480 --> 00:34:45,839 Speaker 1: know if that is enough. They've given up some big plays. 763 00:34:45,880 --> 00:34:48,040 Speaker 1: They played better of late coming down the stretch at 764 00:34:48,080 --> 00:34:49,840 Speaker 1: the end of November, but let's see if they can 765 00:34:49,880 --> 00:34:52,600 Speaker 1: continue to build upon that going into December and into 766 00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:54,839 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Talked about big plays. I think that's that's 767 00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:56,400 Speaker 1: what you're looking at with the Rams, right there, a 768 00:34:56,440 --> 00:34:58,680 Speaker 1: fatal flaw. Yeah, they've given up too many big players. 769 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,080 Speaker 1: And this is a team that offensively, I think they 770 00:35:01,120 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 1: have all the ingredients to be a championship caliber team. 771 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 1: Aaron Donald dominansue they can stop the run, they can 772 00:35:06,160 --> 00:35:08,800 Speaker 1: get after the quarterback. You think Marcus Peters would be 773 00:35:08,800 --> 00:35:11,120 Speaker 1: a top level cornerback being a Pro bowler two times 774 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,520 Speaker 1: early in his career, but without a keep to lead 775 00:35:14,280 --> 00:35:15,920 Speaker 1: I just don't know if he can hold up as 776 00:35:16,000 --> 00:35:17,640 Speaker 1: that number one corner. So they need to keep to 777 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,960 Speaker 1: lead back. They need Marcus Peters to play better. If 778 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:22,520 Speaker 1: they can just stop letting the ball fly over the heads. 779 00:35:22,680 --> 00:35:24,680 Speaker 1: I like the Los Angeles Rams, one of these teams 780 00:35:24,680 --> 00:35:25,960 Speaker 1: that we talked about at the end. I go to 781 00:35:26,000 --> 00:35:29,520 Speaker 1: the FC South, the Houston Texans. That offensive line individually 782 00:35:29,560 --> 00:35:32,439 Speaker 1: know collectively they're okay. Individually, Buck, I feel like there's 783 00:35:32,440 --> 00:35:34,200 Speaker 1: some matchups that are not gonna be in their favor 784 00:35:34,280 --> 00:35:35,680 Speaker 1: once they get in the postseason and see some of 785 00:35:35,680 --> 00:35:37,960 Speaker 1: those better groups up front. Yeah, I mean that offensive 786 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:39,480 Speaker 1: line is always gonna be a challenge. You can't have 787 00:35:39,560 --> 00:35:41,720 Speaker 1: the Shaun Watson getting beat up because when the quarterback 788 00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:43,480 Speaker 1: gets hit, it affects the way he plays. You see, 789 00:35:43,520 --> 00:35:46,880 Speaker 1: the turnovers typically come after that. So the Houston Texans 790 00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 1: must shore up that offensive line. They gotta provide better 791 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:51,480 Speaker 1: protection for the Shaun Wasson so he can get it 792 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:54,400 Speaker 1: to the playmaker DeAndre Hopkins and to Mary Thomas on 793 00:35:54,440 --> 00:35:56,280 Speaker 1: the ouse. And I final one in the New Orleans Saints. 794 00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: You know, the only thing that I can find for 795 00:35:57,960 --> 00:36:01,840 Speaker 1: the New Orleans Man just inconsistent past defense. They have 796 00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:04,680 Speaker 1: given up some chunk plays, uh in the past. They 797 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: haven't rolling right now and I like the addition of 798 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,960 Speaker 1: Eli Apple, but at the end of the day, it's 799 00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:11,640 Speaker 1: gonna come down to how that unit can play because 800 00:36:11,960 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: offensively they can put points on the board. They're gonna 801 00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:16,359 Speaker 1: force teams to have to play from behind and chase them. 802 00:36:16,680 --> 00:36:19,200 Speaker 1: Then it's a matter if can their dbs slam the 803 00:36:19,280 --> 00:36:21,640 Speaker 1: door and find a way to make those plays create 804 00:36:21,719 --> 00:36:24,520 Speaker 1: some turnovers. They're looking good. It's hard to knocked into 805 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,120 Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Look, there are no perfect teams. All 806 00:36:27,160 --> 00:36:29,759 Speaker 1: these teams they do have a flaw. The question is 807 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:33,000 Speaker 1: can their opponents exploit it? Well? Black I thought that 808 00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,400 Speaker 1: was a fun conversation there. It's always a good exercise 809 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:37,160 Speaker 1: I think on this On this episode, you hear us 810 00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,840 Speaker 1: talking about the the twelve core positions of the twelve 811 00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:43,279 Speaker 1: roles to build a championship foundation. Um, get a chance 812 00:36:43,320 --> 00:36:46,239 Speaker 1: to to talk about these Thanksgiving Day games, and then 813 00:36:46,520 --> 00:36:49,040 Speaker 1: to wrap it up there with some some potential flaws 814 00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,600 Speaker 1: for these teams that could be an issue. Fun episode, Yeah, 815 00:36:51,760 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 1: very fun episode. I really liked digging deep into the 816 00:36:55,440 --> 00:36:57,560 Speaker 1: team building discussion, particularly coming off the heels of that 817 00:36:57,640 --> 00:36:59,880 Speaker 1: Monday night football game. Can't wait to get the fee 818 00:37:00,160 --> 00:37:03,360 Speaker 1: back from the listeners because I think that can conversation 819 00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: will continue as we get closer closer to the draft. 820 00:37:06,160 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: Hit him up with that hashtag again, will we come 821 00:37:08,120 --> 00:37:12,319 Speaker 1: m MPTS checklist, MTS checklist, hashtag empty s checklist. Let 822 00:37:12,400 --> 00:37:14,759 Speaker 1: us know your thoughts on building a championship roster in 823 00:37:14,840 --> 00:37:17,880 Speaker 1: which teams you believe already checked the box when it 824 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 1: comes to all those things that are required there you go, 825 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:22,279 Speaker 1: hit up the hit up the hashtag take your team 826 00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:26,360 Speaker 1: through the car wash there, MTS checklist. Is the hashtag 827 00:37:26,360 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: a right? That's gonna do it? For it today? Nice 828 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,239 Speaker 1: job behind the glass, Bucky fun. As always, We'll be 829 00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,799 Speaker 1: back tomorrow with a with a big time podcast looking 830 00:37:33,840 --> 00:37:35,920 Speaker 1: at some college football topics, and I gonna have a 831 00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:38,200 Speaker 1: great guest here. Joel Clapp, one of our buddies uh 832 00:37:38,320 --> 00:37:40,520 Speaker 1: is calling the Ohio State Michigan game. He will join 833 00:37:40,640 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: us on the next episode of Moving Sticks. Appreciate you listening. 834 00:37:43,600 --> 00:37:46,840 Speaker 1: We'll catch next time. Thanks for downloading Move the Sticks 835 00:37:47,160 --> 00:37:51,600 Speaker 1: with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks four more. Go to 836 00:37:52,000 --> 00:38:04,560 Speaker 1: NFL dot com Slash Podcasts. You're not here