1 00:00:02,440 --> 00:00:05,040 Speaker 1: Our scouts do a tremendous job. You don't challenge anyone 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,040 Speaker 1: who's sitting out there and do what they do. And 3 00:00:07,080 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: when watch them work and you tell me their heart 4 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 1: and soul is not in this organization and trying to 5 00:00:11,119 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: make us win. I'm walking down and he turns around 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:18,080 Speaker 1: and he is m f and me. It's so different 7 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:19,840 Speaker 1: than sitting down with you guys. You know it's the 8 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,360 Speaker 1: first time, a little nerve wracking. You know, I'm getting 9 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:38,920 Speaker 1: used to make you know, the smell welcome into the lounge. 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,360 Speaker 1: You know what's right around the corner. Gerett, you packing 11 00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: up your bags headed to the frozen of Indianapolis, NFL 12 00:00:46,520 --> 00:00:49,239 Speaker 1: Scout Scouting Combine. It's not supposed to be that cool 13 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:51,159 Speaker 1: this year. It's not. There's been a couple of years 14 00:00:51,200 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 1: where I've been there and I remember it was like 15 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:55,880 Speaker 1: first or second year there and the temperature on my 16 00:00:55,920 --> 00:00:58,680 Speaker 1: phone was negative to so that was the kind of 17 00:00:58,720 --> 00:01:01,080 Speaker 1: set of threshold. But this year, I looked at the forecast. 18 00:01:01,240 --> 00:01:03,200 Speaker 1: I think in fourties, maybe some days in the fifties, 19 00:01:03,400 --> 00:01:06,480 Speaker 1: that's you might be wearing a bathing suit. Round comparted 20 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: to get like a a Hawaiian shirt to get ready 21 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:12,480 Speaker 1: to the combine to watch your practices. Anyway, good stuff 22 00:01:12,480 --> 00:01:14,400 Speaker 1: with the combine coming up, a lot of news, you're 23 00:01:14,400 --> 00:01:18,240 Speaker 1: gonna be bringing us a lot of updates, videos, intermediate 24 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,119 Speaker 1: interviews of course, all your thoughts from all that stuff. 25 00:01:22,400 --> 00:01:23,840 Speaker 1: It's gonna be a busy week for you. It is 26 00:01:23,840 --> 00:01:27,480 Speaker 1: gonna be what are you gonna be doing? Nothing? That's 27 00:01:27,520 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 1: the problem. I'm gonna be wearing my my Hawaiian shirt 28 00:01:30,280 --> 00:01:33,040 Speaker 1: back here, living the high life. Yeah, so whore you are? 29 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:37,240 Speaker 1: You know, we'll see. Oh, but with that in mind, 30 00:01:37,400 --> 00:01:40,759 Speaker 1: we decided to bring on director of College Scouting Joe 31 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:44,400 Speaker 1: Ortiz to kind of preview this thing. So let's welcome 32 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:47,200 Speaker 1: in Joe for the conversation. All right, Joe, Well, thanks 33 00:01:47,240 --> 00:01:49,760 Speaker 1: for joining us today. We decided to do the interview 34 00:01:49,840 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: with you here before the combine so that you didn't 35 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:53,920 Speaker 1: come up with a fake excuse me I like you 36 00:01:53,960 --> 00:01:55,440 Speaker 1: did last year that you were sick and then put 37 00:01:55,800 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 1: for three different days and then tell us you can't 38 00:01:57,600 --> 00:01:58,960 Speaker 1: do it, and then we gotta wake up at four 39 00:01:59,000 --> 00:02:00,760 Speaker 1: o'clock in the morning to should go ahead and do it. 40 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: We just wanted to keep it limited easier to get 41 00:02:04,640 --> 00:02:07,400 Speaker 1: in here. Yeah, I know you. I truly was sick 42 00:02:07,480 --> 00:02:09,959 Speaker 1: last year. I had to go. I missed three interviews 43 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: last year at the Combine because they actually started giving 44 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:14,400 Speaker 1: us in a guy's interview on Tuesday night. Three of 45 00:02:14,440 --> 00:02:20,760 Speaker 1: the sixty and miss three of the thing was Lamara. Um. Yeah, 46 00:02:20,760 --> 00:02:28,160 Speaker 1: I missed Camara and McCaffrey and then Dory Doran Green, 47 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:32,560 Speaker 1: Dory and Johnson from Pittsburgh. Those three guys we interviewed 48 00:02:33,000 --> 00:02:35,520 Speaker 1: on Tuesday night and I was laid up in the 49 00:02:35,639 --> 00:02:38,520 Speaker 1: in the hotel room. So he gets sick, He gets sick, 50 00:02:38,600 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 1: and then he pushes off the interview. You know, we 51 00:02:40,480 --> 00:02:42,520 Speaker 1: gotta find a time to do it. Then one morning 52 00:02:42,520 --> 00:02:44,200 Speaker 1: I wake up at like four thirty in the morning 53 00:02:44,240 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom whatever. I look at my phone. 54 00:02:46,400 --> 00:02:48,200 Speaker 1: He's texting me at four o'clock in the morning saying, 55 00:02:48,200 --> 00:02:50,440 Speaker 1: can we do it now? Can we did? Yeah? Because 56 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,959 Speaker 1: we're all up and ready to go right now. What 57 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: we did? Get it? But it was so before we 58 00:03:00,000 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 1: are interview. I want to ask you how much of 59 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,000 Speaker 1: what you're about to tell us is going to be true? 60 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:10,959 Speaker 1: And how much is complete? Bologny Um, probably all of it? Ladder, Yeah, 61 00:03:11,200 --> 00:03:14,120 Speaker 1: I try to be somewhat truthful with you guys, um, 62 00:03:14,880 --> 00:03:16,720 Speaker 1: especially when you ask me about the process. You know, 63 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:19,480 Speaker 1: that's all true. Players, there may be a few lives 64 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: and make sense. We appreciate it, all right, What what 65 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:26,239 Speaker 1: part of the process are you in right now? And 66 00:03:26,280 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: what do you uh, you know, where do you stand 67 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: right now heading into the combine? Yeah, so we just 68 00:03:30,800 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: got done on last Saturday. We finished up are really 69 00:03:35,560 --> 00:03:39,080 Speaker 1: our second true round of meetings. We talked to the 70 00:03:39,080 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: guys in October and go over the top fifteen players 71 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:44,320 Speaker 1: and then we bring them all in December. I think 72 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 1: David talked to you a little bit about that during 73 00:03:46,080 --> 00:03:49,000 Speaker 1: his podcast with you guys and um, but they come in, 74 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: go over the top thirty players players and we kind 75 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:55,480 Speaker 1: of set the board, you know, the framework of the 76 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: board then. But this is really all right, the all 77 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:00,480 Speaker 1: the work's been done on all the players, uh you know, 78 00:04:00,520 --> 00:04:02,800 Speaker 1: the fall looks, the cross checks, the all star games. 79 00:04:02,880 --> 00:04:05,680 Speaker 1: So we really and we've gotten at least one, probably 80 00:04:05,680 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: two looks on at least two looks on every junior. 81 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: So um, we're able to really put a board together 82 00:04:11,600 --> 00:04:14,200 Speaker 1: a pretty confident you know before we feel pretty confident 83 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,320 Speaker 1: and and uh so that's where we're at. We got 84 00:04:16,320 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 1: done that last Saturday, and now divving up the responsibilities 85 00:04:20,200 --> 00:04:22,960 Speaker 1: the interviews for the coaches, their individual interviews, and then 86 00:04:23,320 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 1: the players were gonna be bringing into the big room 87 00:04:25,440 --> 00:04:28,680 Speaker 1: at indeed for the sixty formal interviews. So I just 88 00:04:28,720 --> 00:04:31,040 Speaker 1: got done sending that out right before I came down here. 89 00:04:31,320 --> 00:04:33,039 Speaker 1: So when you go to the combine next week? What 90 00:04:33,040 --> 00:04:35,159 Speaker 1: do you feel like it's the most useful part? Is 91 00:04:35,160 --> 00:04:38,040 Speaker 1: it the interviews? Is it the on field workouts? Like? 92 00:04:38,080 --> 00:04:39,520 Speaker 1: What is it that you get the most out of? 93 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:42,840 Speaker 1: You know, I think to each players there's there's a 94 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:47,000 Speaker 1: different uh you know, important, a little of important to 95 00:04:47,240 --> 00:04:49,800 Speaker 1: each aspect of the combine. You know, some guys it's 96 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:52,479 Speaker 1: the simplest height and weight. You know, if you're looking 97 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:55,360 Speaker 1: at an offensive lineman that's light and that's been light, 98 00:04:55,400 --> 00:04:57,640 Speaker 1: you want to see if he's added some mass. So 99 00:04:58,240 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 1: if he shows up at a guy who's been to 100 00:05:00,360 --> 00:05:02,880 Speaker 1: eighties during the year and he shows up at three hundred, okay, 101 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:06,680 Speaker 1: he's growing the right way. Likewise, if you got a 102 00:05:06,680 --> 00:05:08,160 Speaker 1: guy who's three hundred and all of a sudden he's 103 00:05:08,160 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 1: two eighty five, You're like, I hope the guy he's 104 00:05:10,040 --> 00:05:13,159 Speaker 1: had the flu or something. So also those college meeting 105 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 1: guys just had to fudge the doverse in those a 106 00:05:14,680 --> 00:05:16,480 Speaker 1: little bit. There's no doubt and even like I mean, 107 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,920 Speaker 1: we go on to campus and they'll say, oh, yeah, 108 00:05:17,960 --> 00:05:20,680 Speaker 1: he's winning three fifteen right now, and then you get 109 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:23,440 Speaker 1: to the senior bowlings and you know, so something's not 110 00:05:23,480 --> 00:05:27,120 Speaker 1: adding up. So um, yeah, so they'll measurement the wayans 111 00:05:27,120 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: are important. Um, some guys you want to speak to 112 00:05:29,760 --> 00:05:31,480 Speaker 1: you haven't had a chance to talk to. With all 113 00:05:31,520 --> 00:05:34,200 Speaker 1: the All Star games going, we get a chance do 114 00:05:34,240 --> 00:05:36,760 Speaker 1: a great job interviewing guys and h get a chance 115 00:05:36,760 --> 00:05:38,839 Speaker 1: to get a field for him. Um. Then obviously the 116 00:05:38,839 --> 00:05:41,760 Speaker 1: field workouts are important. It gives you a chance, it's 117 00:05:41,760 --> 00:05:43,800 Speaker 1: a level playing field. Everyone's doing the same thing, we're 118 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,680 Speaker 1: in the same gear, and gives you a chance to 119 00:05:45,680 --> 00:05:48,080 Speaker 1: see who the guy the athletic movers are. And obviously 120 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,039 Speaker 1: the timing testine is important. But really the field drills 121 00:05:51,120 --> 00:05:52,720 Speaker 1: is is where you're really going to see how the 122 00:05:52,800 --> 00:05:55,240 Speaker 1: guy is able to move and control his body. He 123 00:05:55,320 --> 00:05:58,200 Speaker 1: talks a little bit about the interviews. What gets a 124 00:05:58,279 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: guy on the Ravens interview is it mostly that you 125 00:06:01,279 --> 00:06:03,960 Speaker 1: want to talk to your top fifty guys to really 126 00:06:04,000 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: get kind of brewed down on them. Or is it 127 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:09,320 Speaker 1: that you have burning questions for guys that may have 128 00:06:09,480 --> 00:06:12,800 Speaker 1: some issues off the field or whatnot. Yeah, it's a mix, 129 00:06:12,880 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: you know. I think a lot of a lot of 130 00:06:15,800 --> 00:06:18,200 Speaker 1: juniors end up on our list because it's our first chance. 131 00:06:18,480 --> 00:06:20,600 Speaker 1: No very few juniors go to any else a game. 132 00:06:20,680 --> 00:06:24,800 Speaker 1: Senior Bowls starting to invite juniors who have graduated, so um, 133 00:06:24,920 --> 00:06:26,560 Speaker 1: we're able to talk to a couple of them there, 134 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:28,720 Speaker 1: but for the most part we have not been exposed 135 00:06:28,760 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 1: to a lot of the juniors, So our our interview 136 00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: list is typically junior heavy. And then there will be 137 00:06:35,000 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 1: a mixed guys that maybe at the top of our board, 138 00:06:37,720 --> 00:06:39,080 Speaker 1: at the middle of our board, and maybe some of 139 00:06:39,120 --> 00:06:40,960 Speaker 1: the guys weren't in a lot of rounds who we 140 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:42,640 Speaker 1: just haven't had a chance to talk to or we 141 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:47,159 Speaker 1: have a question concern, um want to get clarity on 142 00:06:47,160 --> 00:06:49,400 Speaker 1: on a specific topic that we'll bring in and spend 143 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:51,320 Speaker 1: some time with him. Do you find that guys players 144 00:06:51,320 --> 00:06:54,600 Speaker 1: when you grill them on some of that less unsavory 145 00:06:54,680 --> 00:06:58,000 Speaker 1: stuff or more unsavory stuff. How honest do you feel 146 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,120 Speaker 1: like they generally are like do you feel prospects come 147 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:01,560 Speaker 1: in and lay it out on the table or they 148 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,440 Speaker 1: trying to hide some some guys, it just depends on 149 00:07:04,480 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 1: the person. You know. Some guys come in there and 150 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:10,960 Speaker 1: are completely um, honest and upfront about everything, and we'll 151 00:07:11,000 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: go there's times you have to you have to like 152 00:07:13,200 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 1: speed them up, like they're going into so much detail 153 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 1: about the incidents um or their situations there were in 154 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:22,200 Speaker 1: And there's other guys that will kind of glance over it, 155 00:07:22,240 --> 00:07:24,400 Speaker 1: and you know, and all guys are different. You know, 156 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:28,400 Speaker 1: some guys are telling the story for the eighteen time. 157 00:07:28,920 --> 00:07:31,160 Speaker 1: It's really easy for him. Some guys you get in 158 00:07:31,240 --> 00:07:34,440 Speaker 1: there and are interviewing for the very worry are there 159 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:37,440 Speaker 1: first interview of the entire combine of the entire process. 160 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:39,520 Speaker 1: So regardless of if they have an issue or not, 161 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 1: they're just not as comfortable sitting in front of us 162 00:07:43,000 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: as the first time as they are the fifteen times. 163 00:07:45,440 --> 00:07:47,160 Speaker 1: No different than sitting down with you guys. You know, 164 00:07:47,240 --> 00:07:49,720 Speaker 1: it's the first time, a little nerve wracking, you know, 165 00:07:49,840 --> 00:07:52,600 Speaker 1: getting used to make you know, I never know it's coming. 166 00:07:56,120 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 1: But once you get, once you get going comfortable, it's 167 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: it's certainly you can tell the guys that were their 168 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:05,200 Speaker 1: last interview of the Combine their ads and relaxed and 169 00:08:05,200 --> 00:08:07,840 Speaker 1: have been through it before along those lines. Obviously you're 170 00:08:07,840 --> 00:08:10,480 Speaker 1: not gonna name names if you want, but what's the 171 00:08:10,520 --> 00:08:13,560 Speaker 1: worst Combine interview you've ever had? Can he describe? YEA 172 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 1: describe it? God, We've had so many different ones, a 173 00:08:16,800 --> 00:08:20,720 Speaker 1: total dud. Well. We've had a guy who literally discussed 174 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: having multiple person out. He he we knew we had 175 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 1: multiple personalities that he liked to go into at the university, 176 00:08:30,240 --> 00:08:35,080 Speaker 1: and we had this player and and we addressed it 177 00:08:35,120 --> 00:08:39,240 Speaker 1: with him and he looked at us stone faced and said, 178 00:08:39,920 --> 00:08:43,560 Speaker 1: I'm doing you know, I'm doing it right now. He's 179 00:08:43,600 --> 00:08:46,720 Speaker 1: a person out and so like you're just taking them back. 180 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:50,280 Speaker 1: And I remember, I'm not gonna name names of guys 181 00:08:50,280 --> 00:08:52,000 Speaker 1: in the room, but I know one guy got up 182 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:53,839 Speaker 1: on the front of his chair like, you know, all right, 183 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,280 Speaker 1: let's do this. You know, he was ready to you 184 00:08:56,320 --> 00:08:59,719 Speaker 1: know himself. And then we have another guy inch and 185 00:08:59,760 --> 00:09:01,880 Speaker 1: towards it's the door, you know, like I'm doing back 186 00:09:01,960 --> 00:09:04,679 Speaker 1: out of here. So you know it's it's that he 187 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 1: was definitely you I remember walking out of that one 188 00:09:07,960 --> 00:09:10,920 Speaker 1: just being like, oh my god, walked out shaking my head. 189 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:15,560 Speaker 1: So he was probably one of the most entertaining and 190 00:09:15,600 --> 00:09:17,880 Speaker 1: fun story to tell, but also the just wow, that 191 00:09:18,000 --> 00:09:20,560 Speaker 1: was just mind body, I can imagine. Do you have 192 00:09:20,600 --> 00:09:23,520 Speaker 1: any question that you hit him with that like instantly 193 00:09:23,559 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: gets them out like on their toes, you know, like 194 00:09:26,480 --> 00:09:29,280 Speaker 1: we've just heard these reports of you know, eyeball questions 195 00:09:29,280 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 1: and something. Yeah, you know, we we've changed our process 196 00:09:33,840 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 1: to the interviews over the year. It used to be 197 00:09:35,679 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 1: just ask them about their families, and we are scouts 198 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:41,400 Speaker 1: do such a great job of getting background and talking 199 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:45,160 Speaker 1: to so many sources, it becomes redundant information. So what 200 00:09:45,240 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 1: we've tried to do is get them into football more, 201 00:09:47,640 --> 00:09:50,760 Speaker 1: you know, so we really don't ask them a ton 202 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: of like curveball questions. If we have something specific we 203 00:09:54,960 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: want to hit them on, we're hitting them on, but 204 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 1: they're also probably anticipating that because they know they have 205 00:09:59,480 --> 00:10:01,839 Speaker 1: it in their back background. But we really don't. We 206 00:10:02,040 --> 00:10:04,880 Speaker 1: we've tried to get away from the you know, what's 207 00:10:04,880 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: the seventh month of the year, you know, you know 208 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: things of that. You know, we will ask it every 209 00:10:09,080 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: once in a while, you know, It's like they're an 210 00:10:10,760 --> 00:10:13,760 Speaker 1: autopilot exactly right. If you said that, the guy is 211 00:10:13,840 --> 00:10:16,320 Speaker 1: just like completely rehearsed, and you'll try to get them 212 00:10:16,360 --> 00:10:18,319 Speaker 1: out of it. You know. A good one is when 213 00:10:18,320 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 1: a guy's rehearsed, Hey, what room are you in right now? 214 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 1: Who are you talking? Like? That's why. But the funny 215 00:10:24,800 --> 00:10:27,040 Speaker 1: thing is most guys know they're talking to the Ravens, 216 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:30,360 Speaker 1: but when they get asked the questions, they're like, they're like, 217 00:10:30,400 --> 00:10:34,400 Speaker 1: a crap, and I they're staring right at Aussie or John. 218 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: It's like they're looking right at them. I'm like, and 219 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:39,439 Speaker 1: they're like, it's just the Ravens. But then they want 220 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:43,160 Speaker 1: to look at their tag, Yeah, the rain. So they're 221 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: a little bit. That one will get them thrown off 222 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:46,840 Speaker 1: because they're like, why are you asking me this? You 223 00:10:46,840 --> 00:10:49,760 Speaker 1: guys don't know so, um, that's one that will get 224 00:10:49,840 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 1: them zero back in way. So I'm curious with the combined. 225 00:10:52,840 --> 00:10:54,560 Speaker 1: There's a million the steps of the pre ject process. 226 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:55,960 Speaker 1: You guys have these all star games. You have all 227 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: these different steps. Like where does the combine rank in 228 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,679 Speaker 1: terms of impoor during the scouting process? Well, I think 229 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:07,120 Speaker 1: it's I mean, it's important. One because it gives our 230 00:11:07,200 --> 00:11:09,559 Speaker 1: doctors the chance to get their hands on the guys 231 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,760 Speaker 1: and put them through the battery of medical tests, and 232 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:16,280 Speaker 1: which is very important. You need to know not necessarily 233 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:18,440 Speaker 1: we know the injuries were we need to see the 234 00:11:18,480 --> 00:11:20,480 Speaker 1: effect of the injuries through the MR and eyes and 235 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 1: the doctor e Vales and and then there's some injuries 236 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:25,199 Speaker 1: were not familiar with, you know, the schools, the hippo 237 00:11:25,240 --> 00:11:28,160 Speaker 1: laws and you know, it's not as accessible as it 238 00:11:28,200 --> 00:11:30,800 Speaker 1: used to be, and they're not as willing to give 239 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: us the information at schools. And it's understandable. So you know, 240 00:11:34,559 --> 00:11:36,960 Speaker 1: some kids sign a release and schools are allowed to 241 00:11:36,960 --> 00:11:39,640 Speaker 1: talk about it. Others kids other schools don't do it 242 00:11:39,720 --> 00:11:42,400 Speaker 1: to protect themselves. So a lot of this sometimes it's 243 00:11:42,559 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 1: brand new information. So that's very valuable. Um. Obviously, like 244 00:11:46,160 --> 00:11:48,200 Speaker 1: I said, the field drills and the you know, it's 245 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:52,040 Speaker 1: it's it's a level playing field. And that's why at 246 00:11:52,080 --> 00:11:54,960 Speaker 1: Indeed they do a great job of encouraging everyone to 247 00:11:55,040 --> 00:11:58,120 Speaker 1: time and test because they're not going to be in 248 00:11:58,160 --> 00:12:02,640 Speaker 1: a situation that's you know, that can truly replicate what 249 00:12:02,720 --> 00:12:05,280 Speaker 1: the combine offers like these I feel like almost have 250 00:12:05,280 --> 00:12:08,439 Speaker 1: an asterisk next to the right. Yeah, I mean, I mean, 251 00:12:08,640 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 1: you know, you go to some schools and you know, 252 00:12:11,679 --> 00:12:14,320 Speaker 1: without naming the schools, there's two sec schools. I go 253 00:12:14,360 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: to one place at the and I know they're going 254 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: to run faster than they run at the combine. And 255 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:21,480 Speaker 1: I go to the other school and it's like the 256 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:24,000 Speaker 1: surface they run is really soft, and it's like, I 257 00:12:24,000 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: don't think the guys are going to run that fast, 258 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,360 Speaker 1: and they typically don't. So you always hope that the 259 00:12:29,440 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: guys from run at the comin that you hope they 260 00:12:34,120 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 1: run at the combine because if they don't, you know 261 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:40,080 Speaker 1: you're gonna and you like them, you know he's not gonna. 262 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:43,040 Speaker 1: You don't anticipate in posting a good time. Isn't that good? Though? 263 00:12:43,320 --> 00:12:48,160 Speaker 1: If you right and then they time, you're like, all right, 264 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: it is, But you're everyone else in the room staring 265 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:55,480 Speaker 1: at the card where it says four six to telling 266 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 1: you he's faster, the only one to run here, you know, 267 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:02,200 Speaker 1: So you know it's it's not easy, you know. And 268 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,800 Speaker 1: and again, like the teams that run outdoors, you know, 269 00:13:05,880 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: if it rains the day before, it's all pass the ground. 270 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,840 Speaker 1: You just don't know, you know, So there it's the 271 00:13:10,920 --> 00:13:13,160 Speaker 1: surfaces the same for every guy that runs on it. 272 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: So what do you push put more emphasis on a 273 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:17,840 Speaker 1: guy who goes through a college career and has a 274 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,160 Speaker 1: ton of college production then gets to the combine. It's 275 00:13:20,200 --> 00:13:22,600 Speaker 1: kind of a or the guy that throughout his college 276 00:13:22,640 --> 00:13:25,040 Speaker 1: career didn't have great numbers, but then he gets to 277 00:13:25,080 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: the combine and he checks all the boxes in terms 278 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:30,960 Speaker 1: of height, size, speed, and he has all the measurables 279 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:32,959 Speaker 1: like which one do you value taking the football player? 280 00:13:33,240 --> 00:13:37,080 Speaker 1: And I think that's I think I think the testing 281 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: certainly alerts you just something that's there in that body. 282 00:13:40,080 --> 00:13:43,000 Speaker 1: You know, if a guy blows up the combine, there's 283 00:13:43,040 --> 00:13:46,839 Speaker 1: something there. Now you watched the film, Okay, are they 284 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,439 Speaker 1: is he maybe playing in the wrong in a different 285 00:13:49,520 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 1: role than you would play him? And you know, I 286 00:13:50,880 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 1: don't want to say the wrong scheme, but is he 287 00:13:53,120 --> 00:13:55,200 Speaker 1: if we had him when we play him the same way? 288 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 1: You know, now we wouldn't we put him in this 289 00:13:57,480 --> 00:14:00,319 Speaker 1: role which would take advantage of his athleticism more and 290 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:03,120 Speaker 1: allow him to flourish more. Or you see, you know 291 00:14:03,120 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 1: what they're using the way we and it's just not 292 00:14:04,880 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: computing and it's just the instincts aren't there. So to me, 293 00:14:08,080 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 1: if you get a guy that makes a ton of 294 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:13,120 Speaker 1: plays in college football, and it's not always the case, 295 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:16,480 Speaker 1: you know, some guys just they peek in college, you know, 296 00:14:16,559 --> 00:14:19,520 Speaker 1: but they're football players, and you know, they may not 297 00:14:19,680 --> 00:14:21,880 Speaker 1: have the ideal measurables. They may be missing this, they 298 00:14:21,920 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: may be missing that. But man, if you turn on 299 00:14:24,080 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: the tap and they just keep making plays, that's a 300 00:14:26,200 --> 00:14:28,200 Speaker 1: football player and that's what we need to take. You know. 301 00:14:28,240 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: That are the types of guys that we really need 302 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 1: to take. And the ones that are football players are 303 00:14:31,880 --> 00:14:35,320 Speaker 1: test grade better than everyone wants. You know, they should 304 00:14:35,320 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: go to the Olympics. Exactly have you? Do you feel 305 00:14:38,920 --> 00:14:42,080 Speaker 1: like the combine has gotten more useful or less useful 306 00:14:42,120 --> 00:14:45,040 Speaker 1: over the years. I don't think it's you know, I 307 00:14:45,400 --> 00:14:48,320 Speaker 1: think the combine is as useful as you make it. 308 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:52,040 Speaker 1: I think we've tried to as an organization get as 309 00:14:52,160 --> 00:14:54,800 Speaker 1: much as we can possibly get out of the combine 310 00:14:54,880 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: to benefit us. So um, you know, I I don't 311 00:14:58,120 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 1: think the combine has changed in terms of more useful 312 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:04,000 Speaker 1: less useful. I do think they have the you know, 313 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,040 Speaker 1: Jeff Foster and the guys that run National who organized 314 00:15:08,040 --> 00:15:12,040 Speaker 1: the combine. They've done a great job getting feedback from teams, 315 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:16,040 Speaker 1: trying to identify what we want so um, in terms 316 00:15:16,120 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 1: of the accessibility to players, what we need to get 317 00:15:19,080 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 1: done from a from a team and league perspective with 318 00:15:22,160 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: the players, while also dealing with the growing media obligations 319 00:15:26,000 --> 00:15:29,520 Speaker 1: that they have and being on network TV. And you know, so, 320 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,160 Speaker 1: I think Jeff has done an awesome job with it, 321 00:15:32,640 --> 00:15:35,120 Speaker 1: allowing us to get what we need done there um. 322 00:15:35,160 --> 00:15:38,200 Speaker 1: And he's also done a great job of involving as 323 00:15:38,240 --> 00:15:39,960 Speaker 1: many teams that are willing to be involved. And I 324 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,800 Speaker 1: think this year there are thirty one out thirty two 325 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,920 Speaker 1: teams that actually voted on the players to attend the 326 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 1: fullest of players that they gave us. And now you know, 327 00:15:49,800 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 1: I vote on from the Ravens perspective and other teams 328 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,840 Speaker 1: vote from their perspective, and he takes that all together 329 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:59,720 Speaker 1: and decides on who to invite. So it's I think 330 00:16:00,680 --> 00:16:03,360 Speaker 1: getting feedback and input from the teams has really helped 331 00:16:03,400 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 1: it really truthfully become better. You know, his goal is 332 00:16:05,920 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 1: to we want all the guys drafted to come from 333 00:16:08,640 --> 00:16:14,040 Speaker 1: the combine. That's unrealistic, but the greater percentage he can 334 00:16:14,360 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 1: they can you know, achieve the better it is. If 335 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: you could send Jeff an email with a proposed change 336 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:22,680 Speaker 1: for the combine, he would just accept it instantly. What 337 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:26,760 Speaker 1: would you suggest? Oh wow, I don't know. I'd have 338 00:16:26,800 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: to think about that because it's such a routine the 339 00:16:30,200 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 1: Indian Indians, all right, So like that, that's the last 340 00:16:35,040 --> 00:16:38,360 Speaker 1: thing I would teaching, really absolutely, I I would be 341 00:16:38,400 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 1: scared to death if they moved the combined to Miami 342 00:16:41,080 --> 00:16:47,160 Speaker 1: Miami A Dallas, Houston for warm weather, because you guys 343 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:50,640 Speaker 1: have gone out there. It is such a great network. 344 00:16:50,640 --> 00:16:53,840 Speaker 1: It's all bunched together. Every hotel is connected to every 345 00:16:53,840 --> 00:16:56,400 Speaker 1: other one with all the walkways, it's all right there. 346 00:16:56,920 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 1: You know. If you put it in l A, I mean, 347 00:16:58,600 --> 00:17:01,239 Speaker 1: where are you gonna work out? You know, the proximity 348 00:17:01,360 --> 00:17:04,440 Speaker 1: of the venues, you're gonna have travel time. I mean 349 00:17:04,520 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: from our hotel to the Lucas Ole Stadium. It takes 350 00:17:09,080 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: ten minutes to walk there. You know, it doesn't take 351 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:14,120 Speaker 1: a thirty minute car ride if the traffic is good, 352 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:18,199 Speaker 1: you know. So I think India is perfect for the combine. Well, 353 00:17:18,680 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 1: I've always it's always been kind of cool because when 354 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:22,439 Speaker 1: you walk there It's like your in line getting your 355 00:17:22,440 --> 00:17:24,480 Speaker 1: bagel for breakfast and there's Bill Belichick, and then you 356 00:17:24,520 --> 00:17:27,479 Speaker 1: walk and you see whatever, there's Mike Tomlin, just like 357 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,160 Speaker 1: you see all these different people, the entire scouting community, 358 00:17:30,160 --> 00:17:34,440 Speaker 1: coach the one place it's an NFL convention and everybody's there. Absolutely, 359 00:17:34,480 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 1: that's what it is. It's it's our you know, it 360 00:17:36,720 --> 00:17:39,800 Speaker 1: is our convention really and truthfully you know, our unofficial convention. 361 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,479 Speaker 1: And it's just it's really convenient to set up an 362 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,400 Speaker 1: indie does the city does a great job hosting it, 363 00:17:45,520 --> 00:17:49,480 Speaker 1: and um, I just I would never I'd be I would. Yeah, 364 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,320 Speaker 1: it'd be nice to be sitting in Miami. It's not 365 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: like we're gonna be sitting outside of the beach. We're 366 00:17:53,800 --> 00:18:00,879 Speaker 1: indoors no matter where we are. Interviews in between, you know, 367 00:18:00,960 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 1: first and second half, and you'll have the Rainbow umbrella, 368 00:18:04,960 --> 00:18:07,960 Speaker 1: the Ravens umbrella next to it. You know, couple of coronas, 369 00:18:08,440 --> 00:18:10,760 Speaker 1: see if you want better interviews, a couple of coronas 370 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:16,679 Speaker 1: if they've graduated. Right, So, in all serious is what 371 00:18:16,720 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 1: position do you think benefits the most? I mean I 372 00:18:19,160 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: think that like there's so much attention probably pay to 373 00:18:21,200 --> 00:18:23,600 Speaker 1: wide receivers and the times right and the times the 374 00:18:23,640 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 1: guys pupposed to the forty yard dash. But is it 375 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:28,800 Speaker 1: is simple to say, okay, the forty yard dash and 376 00:18:28,920 --> 00:18:30,679 Speaker 1: the speed positions are going to be the ones that 377 00:18:31,240 --> 00:18:33,880 Speaker 1: have a chance to benefit the most of the combine. Um. Yeah, 378 00:18:34,680 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: the guys that can really pop. Yeah, you know you're 379 00:18:36,920 --> 00:18:41,160 Speaker 1: running backs, whiteouts, dvs and even linebackers, your your your 380 00:18:41,160 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: skill positions. The guys that can really roll, they have 381 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:47,720 Speaker 1: a chance to show up more. Um. But in terms 382 00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:49,560 Speaker 1: of positions, I mean that lineman they put them through 383 00:18:49,560 --> 00:18:52,080 Speaker 1: good drills. Offensive lineman, they put them through good drills, 384 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: and you can really see the athlete that the guy 385 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,400 Speaker 1: is or the athlete that he isn't, you know. So, um, 386 00:18:57,520 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 1: I really don't know if it favors any position, and 387 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 1: um more than the other. You know, quarterbacks get a 388 00:19:03,200 --> 00:19:05,120 Speaker 1: chance to throw to a bunch of different white else 389 00:19:05,160 --> 00:19:07,080 Speaker 1: but they're all thrown into the same they're all throwing 390 00:19:07,119 --> 00:19:09,960 Speaker 1: the same routes and you know, so it's it's a 391 00:19:10,000 --> 00:19:12,000 Speaker 1: good like measuring stick, you know. So I don't know 392 00:19:12,040 --> 00:19:14,679 Speaker 1: if it benefits anybody. You know, I'd say it's a 393 00:19:14,680 --> 00:19:17,040 Speaker 1: lot different when you watch a quarterback work out the combine. 394 00:19:17,040 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 1: Then when you go to his protect because now they're 395 00:19:18,720 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: all scripted, they're all run by a quarterback coach. There's 396 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:26,560 Speaker 1: sixty eight plays. Everything's been rehearsed beforehand. They've gone through 397 00:19:26,560 --> 00:19:29,200 Speaker 1: it over and over in detail, so it's it's not 398 00:19:29,320 --> 00:19:33,919 Speaker 1: as maybe as a raw. Here you go, this is 399 00:19:33,960 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: what you gotta do. You know, see how you measure up, 400 00:19:37,800 --> 00:19:40,720 Speaker 1: even playing field type of situations. So I like it 401 00:19:40,800 --> 00:19:43,240 Speaker 1: from I like watching the quarterbacks to see who handles 402 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:45,199 Speaker 1: it the best, because you go into it saying, you 403 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: know what, he doesn't know the wide receiver he's thrown too, 404 00:19:47,960 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: he's not familiar with how fast he's gonna be how 405 00:19:50,800 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: you know, So the timing is gonna so you know that. 406 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:54,919 Speaker 1: So you want to see how they adjust. Um. So 407 00:19:54,960 --> 00:19:57,239 Speaker 1: I think it's a great way to watch quarterbacks. But 408 00:19:57,280 --> 00:19:59,880 Speaker 1: you also have to you know, anticipate or accept that, hey, 409 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,240 Speaker 1: he drew a bad yeah, a short straw and has 410 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,919 Speaker 1: a wide receiver who doesn't run a precise route, you know, 411 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,320 Speaker 1: so you have to know that, you know when you're watching, right, 412 00:20:09,320 --> 00:20:13,280 Speaker 1: the other guy is Sony Julio Jones and yeah, exactly right, 413 00:20:13,800 --> 00:20:16,960 Speaker 1: Yeah that's Jones is giant, you know, so if you're 414 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:19,520 Speaker 1: off target, you know, it's still gonna be caught. Versus 415 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:22,440 Speaker 1: throwing to the five nine receiver, you better be pinpoint 416 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:25,520 Speaker 1: with him. Do you get like, how many days are 417 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,320 Speaker 1: there of actual drills? It starts Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday. Yeah. 418 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:32,840 Speaker 1: Is there any point that you start to get bored 419 00:20:32,840 --> 00:20:35,199 Speaker 1: watching these drills? Because when I'm watching on TV, I 420 00:20:35,200 --> 00:20:37,880 Speaker 1: gotta tell you that this is why I'm a reporter 421 00:20:37,920 --> 00:20:41,800 Speaker 1: and not a scout. But I'm like, oh God, just 422 00:20:41,920 --> 00:20:44,960 Speaker 1: let over the guys run around, Like, is there any 423 00:20:45,000 --> 00:20:49,840 Speaker 1: point that you're like enough? You know? I actually I 424 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: actually get bored during the second If I ever get 425 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:55,119 Speaker 1: bored during the combine, it's during the second forties, like 426 00:20:55,200 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: the second run of forties, Like it's like you just 427 00:20:57,720 --> 00:20:59,800 Speaker 1: want to get him to the drills. Actually like watching 428 00:20:59,800 --> 00:21:02,680 Speaker 1: the because I tried a great George Cokines and I 429 00:21:02,760 --> 00:21:05,720 Speaker 1: normally sit together with time. We don't let him leave 430 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:08,600 Speaker 1: my side, um, you know, because we him and I, 431 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:10,920 Speaker 1: you know, we have a few wages during the fair, 432 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: so um, but you know we keep each other company 433 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: and bs and but watch the workout. When the workouts 434 00:21:18,800 --> 00:21:22,120 Speaker 1: start we stopped talking like it's just it's we're zero day. 435 00:21:22,119 --> 00:21:25,520 Speaker 1: And so the workouts are actually probably the most excited 436 00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:27,240 Speaker 1: I am, because you get to see, wow, that was 437 00:21:27,240 --> 00:21:28,959 Speaker 1: a good rep, that was a bad rap by you know. 438 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:32,280 Speaker 1: So um the forties. The first forties fun because you're 439 00:21:32,320 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 1: seeing you you're getting engaged for a speed. The only 440 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 1: time you're excited for the second forty is if you 441 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:40,360 Speaker 1: got you like, run slow the first time and you're like, 442 00:21:40,760 --> 00:21:46,720 Speaker 1: or he runs yeah, fast, start, I'll just see him, so, 443 00:21:47,080 --> 00:21:50,000 Speaker 1: you know, But the second forty is like, especially in 444 00:21:50,040 --> 00:21:52,000 Speaker 1: the big groups, it's like, oh my goodness, guy, we 445 00:21:52,080 --> 00:21:54,679 Speaker 1: got thirty, they got thirty guys, gonna run it again, 446 00:21:54,720 --> 00:21:57,280 Speaker 1: and you know that's you know, we already saw the times, 447 00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: you know, so um so last your quarterback was like 448 00:22:00,720 --> 00:22:03,439 Speaker 1: super strong, you know. And then and then once the 449 00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,520 Speaker 1: season again and played out, it bore true. A lot 450 00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,720 Speaker 1: of rookie qrnerbacks that good years. What position or positions 451 00:22:10,760 --> 00:22:15,520 Speaker 1: are the cornerback of this year's draft? Um, I'd say 452 00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:19,960 Speaker 1: corner corner is good again. Yeah, cornerback is the cornerback 453 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:24,800 Speaker 1: of this year. Maybe maybe that's pretty good. I mean, 454 00:22:24,840 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 1: like it's good. I would say, maybe not as quite 455 00:22:27,400 --> 00:22:29,439 Speaker 1: as good on the very top end, but it is, 456 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,320 Speaker 1: it's really good, you know, And so um corners good 457 00:22:32,359 --> 00:22:36,280 Speaker 1: safety is probably not as deep as it was last year. UM, 458 00:22:36,320 --> 00:22:38,800 Speaker 1: not by not by much, but just not quite as deep. 459 00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:43,520 Speaker 1: Now the top safeties are up there, so UM and 460 00:22:43,560 --> 00:22:47,520 Speaker 1: then UM and then running backs is a good group again, 461 00:22:47,960 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 1: we've it's been. It's funny to see because the game 462 00:22:52,880 --> 00:22:55,800 Speaker 1: has changed so much at all levels in terms of 463 00:22:55,840 --> 00:22:59,800 Speaker 1: being much more passing and wide open and spread type 464 00:22:59,840 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 1: all offenses. But if you think about the running backs 465 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,160 Speaker 1: that have come out the past couple of years, it's amazing, 466 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:09,439 Speaker 1: you know, it's I mean, it's as wide open as 467 00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:12,560 Speaker 1: the game has become. We may have had, we may 468 00:23:12,600 --> 00:23:17,119 Speaker 1: have the I can't remember four consecutive running backs. The 469 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:20,800 Speaker 1: top running backs were have just been so impressive, you know, 470 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:24,120 Speaker 1: with Gurley and then Zeke and then Leonard and now 471 00:23:24,240 --> 00:23:27,520 Speaker 1: Barkley is everyone's consensus number one. I mean, that's that's 472 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:31,800 Speaker 1: a heck of it. It's unbelievable. And then you look 473 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 1: at the guys behind them in the same drafts and 474 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: they've been very productive. So it's it's great to see, 475 00:23:38,440 --> 00:23:40,680 Speaker 1: you know, as much as we've opened up the game 476 00:23:40,840 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 1: at all levels to see that we're still kicking out 477 00:23:43,640 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: some good running backs. So that's interesting. What about on 478 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:49,760 Speaker 1: the flip side, the weakest position, one that's not maybe 479 00:23:49,800 --> 00:23:53,640 Speaker 1: as deep as you know, there's other ones you just mentioned. Um, 480 00:23:53,680 --> 00:23:57,920 Speaker 1: you know, I would say, just thinking through the board, Um, 481 00:23:57,960 --> 00:24:01,239 Speaker 1: you know, god it you know, lineman is good. You know, 482 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:05,080 Speaker 1: I would probably say the outside backer. But even that's 483 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,359 Speaker 1: not bad. You know, it's a good draft to answer to. Really, 484 00:24:08,400 --> 00:24:10,400 Speaker 1: to sum it up, it's a good draft in terms 485 00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:13,760 Speaker 1: of that outside backers maybe a little bit thinner than 486 00:24:13,960 --> 00:24:18,159 Speaker 1: years past, um, but not not by much, you know. Um, 487 00:24:18,160 --> 00:24:21,439 Speaker 1: it's that's a position that he's always hard to really 488 00:24:22,080 --> 00:24:25,600 Speaker 1: fill up tremendously. So good thing you got too, lest Yeah, 489 00:24:25,880 --> 00:24:29,120 Speaker 1: we've done a good job of tack on something. So um. 490 00:24:29,160 --> 00:24:31,359 Speaker 1: So well, we gotta talk about wider sheeper. You know, 491 00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:34,600 Speaker 1: that's what position that you figured. We're probably gonna talk 492 00:24:34,600 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 1: about it, you know we So let's go to bed linement. 493 00:24:40,480 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: I'm really even watching. So what do you think of 494 00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:46,280 Speaker 1: the receiver group? Let's start there. It's a it's a 495 00:24:46,600 --> 00:24:52,080 Speaker 1: very deep group. Um, I would not say it's a 496 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,920 Speaker 1: top end a j Green, Julio, you don't have those 497 00:24:57,040 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: types of guys. You know, as you guys, you who 498 00:25:00,440 --> 00:25:02,800 Speaker 1: what everyone else reads there's people are saying it's not 499 00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:05,159 Speaker 1: and I think that's an accurate assessment. That doesn't mean 500 00:25:05,200 --> 00:25:07,719 Speaker 1: there's not really good whiteouts in the draft, because there are. 501 00:25:07,840 --> 00:25:10,320 Speaker 1: I think I believe there are. But in terms of 502 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:13,840 Speaker 1: your guys are going to be a top ten type 503 00:25:13,880 --> 00:25:16,080 Speaker 1: of pick, I don't know if that guy exists in 504 00:25:16,160 --> 00:25:19,840 Speaker 1: this year's draft, but I do know that when you 505 00:25:19,960 --> 00:25:23,320 Speaker 1: look at the draft the wide receiver column as a whole, 506 00:25:23,440 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: you say, you know what, We've got a lot of 507 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:27,240 Speaker 1: guys that we can we can pick from over the 508 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:29,720 Speaker 1: course of the draft. So the guy who probably seems 509 00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,440 Speaker 1: to be as close to that top ten type player 510 00:25:31,480 --> 00:25:33,800 Speaker 1: would be cal Ridley. I mean, he's just, based on 511 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:35,520 Speaker 1: everything we're reading right now, seems to be kind of 512 00:25:35,600 --> 00:25:38,640 Speaker 1: that consensus number one wider year. What are your impressions 513 00:25:38,680 --> 00:25:41,719 Speaker 1: of him? A talented player? You know, he's very fast, Um, 514 00:25:42,440 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: his production has been up and down through his career. 515 00:25:45,359 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 1: You know, part of that they went to a lot 516 00:25:47,000 --> 00:25:49,200 Speaker 1: of the r P O stuff the past two years. 517 00:25:49,280 --> 00:25:51,560 Speaker 1: His freshman year, they were more of a pro style 518 00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:54,920 Speaker 1: approach to their offense. UM. And then there's the past 519 00:25:55,000 --> 00:25:58,000 Speaker 1: two years they've done a lot more R P O 520 00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:02,359 Speaker 1: s and you know, decisions. So he may not always 521 00:26:02,400 --> 00:26:05,320 Speaker 1: been the primary reader, the second secondary read where he's 522 00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,840 Speaker 1: getting the ball. UM. A little undersized guy. You know, 523 00:26:08,920 --> 00:26:10,840 Speaker 1: he's a little thin when in terms of when you 524 00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 1: look at his body in his frame. But he's certainly 525 00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:16,600 Speaker 1: very fast, quick footed, very good route ability and and 526 00:26:16,680 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 1: certainly good hands and production. UM. But again it's his 527 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:23,800 Speaker 1: production per catch is good. He's just he doesn't have 528 00:26:23,880 --> 00:26:27,320 Speaker 1: a high volume of you know, targets in that offense. Right. 529 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:29,920 Speaker 1: How about the Maryland guy, d J. Moore, a guy 530 00:26:30,000 --> 00:26:33,560 Speaker 1: from Maryland. Uh, he's a very productive guy too. Now 531 00:26:33,640 --> 00:26:35,960 Speaker 1: he had I think, I won't say eighties some catches 532 00:26:35,960 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: this year. He's been pretty productive through his career. UM. 533 00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,200 Speaker 1: It's interesting with him because he did it with I 534 00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:47,360 Speaker 1: think three four maybe four quarterbacks. He kept catching the ball. 535 00:26:47,520 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: You know. So he's he's a guy that just knows 536 00:26:50,320 --> 00:26:53,480 Speaker 1: how to play football, gets open um does a good job. 537 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:55,920 Speaker 1: You know. Obviously being local, we we get a chance 538 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:58,000 Speaker 1: to see him, you know, whether we're going down to 539 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:01,119 Speaker 1: a game or he's on TV every every every time 540 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: they play at twelve o'clock, I gotta watch Maryland play 541 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:08,080 Speaker 1: and it runs into my Auburn. You know, they won't 542 00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:11,920 Speaker 1: kick over until the over's over, so I'm missing the 543 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,040 Speaker 1: beginning of the big SEC matchup each week. So I've 544 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,040 Speaker 1: watched him play on TV and you know, you know, 545 00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,920 Speaker 1: in the fourth quarter is a lot. But now he's 546 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:23,680 Speaker 1: he's he's a competitive guy. I know DJ well over 547 00:27:23,720 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 1: the years of scouting, and uh, he says absolutely fantastic 548 00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,560 Speaker 1: things about him. As as good as he's, you know, 549 00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:32,440 Speaker 1: as good as a player is, he's an even better person, 550 00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: which is a great, great, great compliment any player I 551 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:36,919 Speaker 1: think we get, and especially from Galley t J who 552 00:27:36,960 --> 00:27:38,640 Speaker 1: I've known a long time and I know how good 553 00:27:38,680 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 1: of a guy he is and how good of a 554 00:27:40,400 --> 00:27:42,760 Speaker 1: head coach he is. So I mean, carries a lot 555 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 1: of weight with me. So but now he's very productive, 556 00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,520 Speaker 1: strong hands, and uh, just good football player. So with 557 00:27:48,680 --> 00:27:52,640 Speaker 1: you saying there's not the upper echelon or the premier 558 00:27:52,760 --> 00:27:56,080 Speaker 1: elite wide receiver like Julio and whatnot, is it too 559 00:27:56,200 --> 00:27:59,600 Speaker 1: much for fans to think that a rookie wide receiver 560 00:27:59,680 --> 00:28:01,280 Speaker 1: that we draft this year is going to come in 561 00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:04,880 Speaker 1: and and just internally instantly turned around the passing game, 562 00:28:04,920 --> 00:28:06,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like, I feel like it's 563 00:28:06,359 --> 00:28:09,680 Speaker 1: kind of difficult for wide receivers, rookie wide receivers to 564 00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:12,880 Speaker 1: make that jump and make that instant impact. Cooper Cup 565 00:28:13,760 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: it was examples example. But then whatever the first round 566 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: in recent years, the first round guys that have not 567 00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,960 Speaker 1: panned out, there's no doubt. And if you think about 568 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,320 Speaker 1: Cooper and and Juju, they're two good examples their primary 569 00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:32,960 Speaker 1: roles or slot receivers, right right, Um, they're not Antonio Brown, 570 00:28:33,000 --> 00:28:37,560 Speaker 1: they're not Sammy Watkins, and uh they got the other 571 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:42,200 Speaker 1: guy from just so Coop's and Coop had a good chemistry, 572 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,520 Speaker 1: but a lot you know that offense. They did a 573 00:28:44,560 --> 00:28:46,000 Speaker 1: heck of a job really getting a lot of those 574 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:50,400 Speaker 1: guys at ball and a lot of and Cooper was 575 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:53,400 Speaker 1: definitely bet but would a lot of would helped be 576 00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,080 Speaker 1: productive this year. He's very smart, he had a lot 577 00:28:56,120 --> 00:28:58,640 Speaker 1: of experience in the slot and uh, and it catches 578 00:28:58,680 --> 00:29:00,480 Speaker 1: the ball well you know, and so you know in 579 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:04,280 Speaker 1: the games I watched him play, he was the concepts 580 00:29:04,360 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 1: designed and open and he was able to read coverage 581 00:29:07,680 --> 00:29:11,280 Speaker 1: and that's the thing that some rookies, a lot of rookies. 582 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,600 Speaker 1: It takes time and the game so much faster, and 583 00:29:13,720 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 1: that's why you don't see a lot of instant impact receivers. 584 00:29:16,800 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: Getting back to your original question, you know, because it 585 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:24,000 Speaker 1: takes if you're not just completely much more physically dominant 586 00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 1: than your opponent, you gotta learn. You got that, you 587 00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,080 Speaker 1: got a little the intricacies of route running, you know, 588 00:29:30,480 --> 00:29:33,520 Speaker 1: quick read of coverage, adjusting quickly, you know, and that 589 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: takes a little bit of time. Not everyone can do 590 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:37,440 Speaker 1: that right away. It takes some it takes the reps. 591 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,200 Speaker 1: And so, um, do I think a rookie can come 592 00:29:40,240 --> 00:29:43,240 Speaker 1: in and help our offense? Absolutely, there's no doubt it's 593 00:29:43,400 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: it can be done. You know, Um do I anticipate 594 00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:50,160 Speaker 1: would I ever take a rookie? You know, would we 595 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: ever take a rookie? And myself think this guy is 596 00:29:53,400 --> 00:29:55,400 Speaker 1: going to be a pro bowler in year one as 597 00:29:55,440 --> 00:29:58,280 Speaker 1: a receiver, And it's hard to it's really hard to 598 00:29:58,320 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: project that. It's really hard to think inc that you're 599 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:03,120 Speaker 1: gonna get unless it's a Holio over a J. Green. 600 00:30:03,360 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: And you know, those guys, Calvin Johnson, those guys are rare, 601 00:30:05,640 --> 00:30:08,160 Speaker 1: you know, UM, and that's why there's not a lot 602 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: of them taken at the top ten picks every year. 603 00:30:10,760 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: You know, if you just look at last year's first round, 604 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 1: you know it just three guys the first time. You know, 605 00:30:15,760 --> 00:30:21,160 Speaker 1: hettled injuries, a couple of battle injuries days why Davis 606 00:30:21,240 --> 00:30:23,160 Speaker 1: was hurt a lot and um, and he was a 607 00:30:23,200 --> 00:30:24,880 Speaker 1: little slow to get going. He had a great he 608 00:30:25,000 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: finished great in the in the playoff game. UM, but 609 00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,320 Speaker 1: he was really you didn't do it a lot during 610 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:32,600 Speaker 1: the course of the year. And I'm a part of 611 00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:35,720 Speaker 1: his duty injury and saying with Raws and Cincinnati. But um, 612 00:30:36,520 --> 00:30:38,720 Speaker 1: it takes time for those positions. You know that that's 613 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,280 Speaker 1: a position that takes a little bit of time. And 614 00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:43,240 Speaker 1: sometimes you get a guy that can adapt and adjust 615 00:30:43,360 --> 00:30:46,239 Speaker 1: really quick. Um, and it helps him and hopefully if 616 00:30:46,320 --> 00:30:48,080 Speaker 1: we get a guy he's able to do that. Has 617 00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,720 Speaker 1: there been any lessons learned just from your time of 618 00:30:50,800 --> 00:30:53,720 Speaker 1: drafting wide receivers here? Have you guys changed the way 619 00:30:53,720 --> 00:30:56,160 Speaker 1: you scout them at all over that that period or 620 00:30:56,200 --> 00:30:58,600 Speaker 1: anything like that. Yeah, you know, I think we're always 621 00:30:58,600 --> 00:31:00,400 Speaker 1: trying to tweak how he's got all position and in 622 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:04,560 Speaker 1: all honestly obviously, you know, it's been well documented that 623 00:31:04,760 --> 00:31:08,840 Speaker 1: we have had we haven't had much success at the position. 624 00:31:09,520 --> 00:31:12,400 Speaker 1: You know, it's I mean, it's it's it's out. It's 625 00:31:12,600 --> 00:31:15,600 Speaker 1: it's a fact. And um, you know, we take pride 626 00:31:15,680 --> 00:31:19,080 Speaker 1: as an organization and scouts and coaches is trying to 627 00:31:20,040 --> 00:31:23,280 Speaker 1: you know, correct the things were overlooking and or maybe 628 00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 1: overvaluing or undervaluing and and really honing in on those 629 00:31:28,760 --> 00:31:32,360 Speaker 1: things and and uh and pouring more and more effort 630 00:31:32,400 --> 00:31:34,560 Speaker 1: into it, you know. And well you know we watch 631 00:31:35,360 --> 00:31:39,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if you can watch more films. Um, well, 632 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,520 Speaker 1: so do you guys go back? I mean, is there's 633 00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:44,480 Speaker 1: a kind of a self scouting process. You go back 634 00:31:44,520 --> 00:31:46,560 Speaker 1: and you say like, okay, why did it work here? 635 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:48,640 Speaker 1: And what do we not get here? Like you guys 636 00:31:48,680 --> 00:31:52,760 Speaker 1: go back through scouting scouts. Yeah, absolutely, you know we do. Um, 637 00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:55,880 Speaker 1: we do multiple we do it multiple ways. Well we can. 638 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,960 Speaker 1: We'll look through the scouts, you know, we'll assess each 639 00:31:58,960 --> 00:32:01,720 Speaker 1: of our scouts to strengths weaknesses like their strength, their 640 00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 1: strong positions or weak positions. This is these are your 641 00:32:04,920 --> 00:32:08,360 Speaker 1: three bottom positions. Go back yourself and look and see 642 00:32:08,840 --> 00:32:11,680 Speaker 1: why you missed on these guys. That's interesting. And you 643 00:32:11,800 --> 00:32:14,640 Speaker 1: do that by like looking at the results, Like do 644 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,120 Speaker 1: you wait for three years to this? Yeah, it's yeah, yeah, yeah, 645 00:32:18,120 --> 00:32:22,320 Speaker 1: it's it's a historical assessment. It's it's hard to say, Okay, 646 00:32:22,400 --> 00:32:24,240 Speaker 1: this is last year's draft. You missed this guy because 647 00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:25,680 Speaker 1: he went in the second round. You had a fifth 648 00:32:25,800 --> 00:32:27,920 Speaker 1: round grade on him. That doesn't make him wrong yet 649 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:31,240 Speaker 1: you know, you know he might be right. We go 650 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 1: you now him so um or vice. First, you had 651 00:32:34,160 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: a second round grade on him, you were too high 652 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:38,120 Speaker 1: and he went in the fifth. Well you know, now 653 00:32:38,200 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: the guys starting and I was right, you know, but um, 654 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:44,400 Speaker 1: you know it's more of their production, their playtime, um, 655 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,720 Speaker 1: you know, and the pro grades. You know, so we 656 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:50,080 Speaker 1: take the pro with the program. Pro scouts say hey, 657 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,240 Speaker 1: this is what this guy is. And so you take 658 00:32:52,280 --> 00:32:54,360 Speaker 1: all those things into a counter and like group does 659 00:32:54,400 --> 00:32:57,520 Speaker 1: a great job helping us, you know, do some a 660 00:32:57,560 --> 00:33:00,080 Speaker 1: lot of self scaling, you know. Um. And then you 661 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 1: also look for as a group, Okay, historically, at any position, 662 00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: what are we were are? What positions are we overvaluing? Undervaluing? Um? 663 00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,800 Speaker 1: You know, what traits are we Does it seem like 664 00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: we're putting too much emphasis on when we put these 665 00:33:17,160 --> 00:33:19,240 Speaker 1: guys on the board, what traits are we not paying 666 00:33:19,320 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: enough attention to? So we're always trying to tweak the 667 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,440 Speaker 1: process here and there, um, and the way we and 668 00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,440 Speaker 1: and tweak the way we identify players. Right. So, along 669 00:33:29,480 --> 00:33:32,880 Speaker 1: with wide receiver, another popular first round mock draft pick 670 00:33:32,960 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 1: for the Ravens is offensive tackle. So you want to 671 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,360 Speaker 1: talk a little bit about the offensive tackles. I guess 672 00:33:37,440 --> 00:33:39,160 Speaker 1: overall you kind of said it was a good group, 673 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 1: but could you expand on that a little bit? Like, 674 00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:45,040 Speaker 1: how how good is this group? Um? It's it's really 675 00:33:45,760 --> 00:33:49,800 Speaker 1: when you look at the tackle board, it's it's pretty deep. Um. Again, 676 00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:53,200 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think there's a consensus. Yeah, it 677 00:33:53,240 --> 00:33:56,160 Speaker 1: seems like it's all over the place, like four guys 678 00:33:56,360 --> 00:34:01,680 Speaker 1: paic consensus number one tackle. Um, there's probably not a 679 00:34:01,800 --> 00:34:04,680 Speaker 1: consensus of these four or three, three or four guys 680 00:34:04,720 --> 00:34:06,920 Speaker 1: are gonna go in the first round. There's probably not consensus. Well, 681 00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:09,560 Speaker 1: what there is a consensus in my mind, or at 682 00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 1: least in my opinion, is that there's there's good players 683 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:17,040 Speaker 1: from the whoever goes first to whoever is the seventh 684 00:34:17,160 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: or eighth tackle taken and so um, and then there's 685 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:22,359 Speaker 1: some of these tackles are versatile where you could say, 686 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:24,240 Speaker 1: you know what, I can see this guy going into guard. 687 00:34:24,320 --> 00:34:26,440 Speaker 1: I could see this guy even playing center, you know. 688 00:34:26,600 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: So you have some versatile type tackles that maybe they're 689 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,800 Speaker 1: not just a left versus right tackle. They also have 690 00:34:32,960 --> 00:34:37,040 Speaker 1: some guard flexibility and and even center flexibility. So um, 691 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,560 Speaker 1: it's a good group. Um. I think there's enough players 692 00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:44,520 Speaker 1: where you know, we'll be able to if if that's 693 00:34:44,560 --> 00:34:47,600 Speaker 1: our target, you know, and he's the top guy that 694 00:34:47,680 --> 00:34:50,120 Speaker 1: will have a shot to take one. The one guy 695 00:34:50,239 --> 00:34:51,520 Speaker 1: right now who seems to be kind of getting a 696 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:54,319 Speaker 1: lot of buzz is Orlando Brown Piper has us taken 697 00:34:54,400 --> 00:34:57,920 Speaker 1: him at sixteen right now? Obviously his dad played here. 698 00:34:58,000 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: What's your impressions of him? I mean, does he remind 699 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:01,480 Speaker 1: as you when you watch him? Does he remind you 700 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:04,600 Speaker 1: of watching his dad play? Yeah, he's it's weird to 701 00:35:04,640 --> 00:35:08,440 Speaker 1: say this. He's not as big as Zeus Zeus senior. 702 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,200 Speaker 1: I thought he was an inch taller, right, But do 703 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:14,319 Speaker 1: you think about Zeus? I mean, Zoos stilled up two 704 00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: doorways and maybe I'm thinking of Zeus is When I 705 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:21,640 Speaker 1: was a twenty two year old kid and everyone's bigger. 706 00:35:21,719 --> 00:35:25,000 Speaker 1: He was screaming at I won't name the reporter, but 707 00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 1: and if he listens to this, will probably know it 708 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: was him. But I'm twenty two walking out in the 709 00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:34,120 Speaker 1: field my first year, and I could literally come walking 710 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,920 Speaker 1: out practices, you know, they're doing warm ups. And right 711 00:35:38,000 --> 00:35:40,440 Speaker 1: when I come walking down the ramp at the old facility, 712 00:35:40,520 --> 00:35:42,239 Speaker 1: which you guys are familiar with, there's just a little 713 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:45,839 Speaker 1: just a little a little turf friend. I'm walking down 714 00:35:45,960 --> 00:35:48,800 Speaker 1: and he turns around and he is m f and me. 715 00:35:49,480 --> 00:35:54,000 Speaker 1: You that right, He's looking right at me, and he's like, 716 00:35:54,120 --> 00:35:57,359 Speaker 1: I'm going to kick And I'm like, it's funny because 717 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:01,160 Speaker 1: I came beepopping out, you know, walking practice, and I 718 00:36:01,320 --> 00:36:03,920 Speaker 1: swear my walk slowed down so much. I was just 719 00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:09,160 Speaker 1: like in slow motion, like oh my god. And I 720 00:36:09,280 --> 00:36:12,319 Speaker 1: turned around and I'm like, I like, who he's got 721 00:36:12,440 --> 00:36:14,120 Speaker 1: to be talking to someone behind me? And I see 722 00:36:14,200 --> 00:36:16,480 Speaker 1: one of the guys just like you know, that's some 723 00:36:16,560 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: of the reporters talking and one of them like kind 724 00:36:18,560 --> 00:36:20,560 Speaker 1: of smiling like, oh, he's mad at me, you know, 725 00:36:25,160 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 1: you know, Like I said, I'm not gonna but it 726 00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: was it was funny because I just it froze me. 727 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,120 Speaker 1: So I remember Zeus in that woking way. Now fast 728 00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:39,799 Speaker 1: forward to when little Zeus Junior was a freshman. Uh sorry, 729 00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,880 Speaker 1: the stories long. I walk into Oklahoma and they were 730 00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:46,279 Speaker 1: rebuilding their facility and so they're in trailers and I 731 00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:48,600 Speaker 1: don't know where to go in this trailer. So I 732 00:36:48,680 --> 00:36:51,560 Speaker 1: walk in and I'm trying the store and it's a 733 00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:54,880 Speaker 1: locker room and this big sucker comes walking out and 734 00:36:55,080 --> 00:36:58,040 Speaker 1: I just I talk about getting emotional because you know 735 00:36:58,600 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: we're lying. That would pass, and and I'd listened on 736 00:37:01,560 --> 00:37:03,280 Speaker 1: the radio about how he's going to be the starting 737 00:37:03,320 --> 00:37:06,480 Speaker 1: tackle and on the way to Oklahoma, and so he's 738 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:09,400 Speaker 1: really happy for him, and and he walked and he 739 00:37:09,480 --> 00:37:12,680 Speaker 1: flashed me. He flashed me or like, Orlando Senior, smile 740 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:17,000 Speaker 1: your little Zeus. And he's like any seats of Raven's 741 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,880 Speaker 1: I'll yes, I'm like, man, I was like, I'm you know, 742 00:37:21,040 --> 00:37:23,600 Speaker 1: you don't know me. I remember you when you're younger, Athide, 743 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,960 Speaker 1: but I said, your dad would be. So your dad 744 00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,040 Speaker 1: is so proud to you right now. So you know, 745 00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:30,879 Speaker 1: so he plays like his dad. I mean, he's mean, 746 00:37:31,000 --> 00:37:38,120 Speaker 1: he's physical, he's probably Yeah, he's mean, he's physical, he's longer. 747 00:37:38,239 --> 00:37:40,920 Speaker 1: I think he's longer than his dad, not as wide, 748 00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:45,680 Speaker 1: and probably a better athlete. But that type of physical, rugged, 749 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,680 Speaker 1: big strong, beach up mentality. That's cool. So we have 750 00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 1: a fan question which we usually answer off the top, 751 00:37:52,840 --> 00:37:55,120 Speaker 1: but we figured we just post it to you, right 752 00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:57,480 Speaker 1: since it's about offensive tackles. So this one comes from 753 00:37:57,760 --> 00:38:03,320 Speaker 1: Darrell needs a k Nintendo game here. I'm not. My 754 00:38:03,440 --> 00:38:06,799 Speaker 1: kids are XBOXERSA. My six year old tells me he's 755 00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:10,680 Speaker 1: a gamer all the time. I'm a gamer. Different, different 756 00:38:11,000 --> 00:38:12,640 Speaker 1: meaning of the word when you used to say you're 757 00:38:12,640 --> 00:38:19,839 Speaker 1: a gamer is different. Anyway. The question is three out 758 00:38:19,920 --> 00:38:22,120 Speaker 1: of five of the early mock drafts have us picking 759 00:38:22,200 --> 00:38:25,239 Speaker 1: offensive tackle with the sixteenth pick, with Nikol, Alex and 760 00:38:25,360 --> 00:38:28,000 Speaker 1: Janda coming off to injury and Howard under contract for 761 00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,080 Speaker 1: the next I think one year. Actually, how likely is 762 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:34,960 Speaker 1: it that we go lineman at number sixteen? Um? You know, 763 00:38:35,040 --> 00:38:36,840 Speaker 1: I really think it's going to be how the board falls, 764 00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,080 Speaker 1: you know. Um, you know obviously there's linemen that are 765 00:38:41,120 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 1: going to be worthy of that pick. Um, and there's 766 00:38:43,800 --> 00:38:47,080 Speaker 1: other positions that will be as well. Um, I don't 767 00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 1: I don't think you can ever have enough offensive linement, 768 00:38:50,640 --> 00:38:53,000 Speaker 1: and I think that you approved itself. Always keep that 769 00:38:53,160 --> 00:38:54,719 Speaker 1: unit strong, and you're gonna have a chance to have 770 00:38:54,760 --> 00:38:56,880 Speaker 1: a good running game and a good passing game and everything. 771 00:38:56,920 --> 00:38:59,640 Speaker 1: You know, with with a shake your offensive line, you're 772 00:38:59,640 --> 00:39:02,000 Speaker 1: not going to do much of anything, you know. So um, 773 00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: to answer your your fan question, I'd say, I would 774 00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: not be disappointed if we took one, but if there's 775 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 1: a better player at a different position, we're going to 776 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,320 Speaker 1: take him. Nice. So last year it was four straight 777 00:39:16,400 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 1: defensive guys, would you be surprised this year if it 778 00:39:19,600 --> 00:39:25,239 Speaker 1: was four straight offensive? Um? Because I wouldn't. I know 779 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:29,360 Speaker 1: you would fans when I'd be more surprised if it 780 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:34,960 Speaker 1: was four straight defensive guys. I've always said, God, you know, 781 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:37,280 Speaker 1: we just take defense again in the first round. Pitchforks 782 00:39:37,320 --> 00:39:42,840 Speaker 1: and torches, right, Let's just see what happens now. You 783 00:39:42,920 --> 00:39:46,960 Speaker 1: know what we need help on defense still, you know, 784 00:39:47,239 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: and certainly we we have needs on offense. Um, I 785 00:39:51,520 --> 00:39:55,040 Speaker 1: take four in a row, ever, that's probably rare. So 786 00:39:55,400 --> 00:39:57,720 Speaker 1: I guess the answer that question, I'd be more surprised 787 00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:00,160 Speaker 1: if it happens again on either side. You know, it's 788 00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,160 Speaker 1: just right, it's the way the board fell last year, 789 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: and and we knew what was happening, and it's like 790 00:40:05,760 --> 00:40:07,560 Speaker 1: we're just this is the guy, you know, let's just 791 00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,759 Speaker 1: take them, and um, you don't want to force the 792 00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:14,000 Speaker 1: guy at the board just because you've taken three offensive 793 00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:16,680 Speaker 1: guys and what we gotta take a defensive player now, 794 00:40:17,600 --> 00:40:20,360 Speaker 1: you know. So if if it happens again, that's because 795 00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,840 Speaker 1: we feel that they were the best pick at that moment. 796 00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:25,400 Speaker 1: But it's rare for that to happen, so I'd be 797 00:40:25,440 --> 00:40:27,760 Speaker 1: I'd be surprised if it happened to One more serious 798 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: question before we get to YUC questions with you to 799 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,800 Speaker 1: close this thing up. What obviously the big news in 800 00:40:33,840 --> 00:40:37,000 Speaker 1: the off season with Eric becoming the general manager next year. 801 00:40:37,960 --> 00:40:40,239 Speaker 1: You know, it probably doesn't have any bearing on this year. 802 00:40:40,320 --> 00:40:41,879 Speaker 1: All the scouting, a lot of it has been done 803 00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:44,400 Speaker 1: or whatnot, and it's just coming down to, I mean, 804 00:40:44,440 --> 00:40:47,239 Speaker 1: the final stages didn't make the pick. But what's your 805 00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:49,480 Speaker 1: opinion and what's your take on that. I mean, obviously 806 00:40:49,520 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: you've worked with Eric for a long time. This is 807 00:40:51,239 --> 00:40:54,960 Speaker 1: a big, big news, you know, Yeah, you know, it's 808 00:40:55,160 --> 00:41:00,480 Speaker 1: it's it's weird, it's different, coming from my perspective. One. 809 00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:03,400 Speaker 1: We've been working together Eric and I and myself an 810 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:05,440 Speaker 1: ass for twenty years, just my twenty year working with 811 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: both those guys, and it's about stability and consistency and 812 00:41:12,760 --> 00:41:15,520 Speaker 1: keep moving forward. And it's always been in the plants. 813 00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: And Steve addressed that this has always been a plan 814 00:41:18,080 --> 00:41:20,600 Speaker 1: and Ozzie's known it's been in the plan, you know. 815 00:41:21,600 --> 00:41:23,440 Speaker 1: So honestly, the way I look at it, it's an 816 00:41:23,480 --> 00:41:25,960 Speaker 1: awesome opportunity for Eric, and it's it's a it's a 817 00:41:26,120 --> 00:41:30,600 Speaker 1: great you know, reward for the service and the effort 818 00:41:30,719 --> 00:41:34,360 Speaker 1: and the ability he has as as a manager and 819 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: a director and an assistant GM and and but it's 820 00:41:38,680 --> 00:41:43,480 Speaker 1: also kind of just a continuation of the process in 821 00:41:43,600 --> 00:41:47,000 Speaker 1: my mind. And you know, when Eric is running it, 822 00:41:47,400 --> 00:41:51,279 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll do things to his you know, I 823 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:54,160 Speaker 1: had a stated point or his more towards his liking UM. 824 00:41:54,640 --> 00:41:57,719 Speaker 1: But we all have grown together and our philosophy has 825 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:03,240 Speaker 1: been built through Aussies leadership and guidance, and his stamp 826 00:42:03,360 --> 00:42:05,160 Speaker 1: is always going to be on us and the way 827 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:07,040 Speaker 1: we think. And I think about the guys that have 828 00:42:07,120 --> 00:42:10,479 Speaker 1: gone elsewhere UM and worked elsewhere. You know, whether it's 829 00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:14,000 Speaker 1: Phil and George going to Cleveland. Um, you know Terry 830 00:42:14,040 --> 00:42:17,399 Speaker 1: McDonough who's in Arizona. Now, A lot of the guys 831 00:42:17,520 --> 00:42:20,200 Speaker 1: carry that with them. Joe d and Andy out in Philly, 832 00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:23,719 Speaker 1: they carry that with them. And so I think we'll 833 00:42:23,800 --> 00:42:26,200 Speaker 1: carry you know, and as he's still going to be here, 834 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,600 Speaker 1: you know, and involved, and uh so I think we'll 835 00:42:29,680 --> 00:42:32,480 Speaker 1: carry forward with our philosophy. And he said, you know, 836 00:42:32,560 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 1: every guy's gonna you know, if I if I were 837 00:42:34,680 --> 00:42:37,279 Speaker 1: ever a GM, I would have my own little you know, 838 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:41,799 Speaker 1: stamp on things. But the foundation is gonna stay very 839 00:42:41,920 --> 00:42:44,600 Speaker 1: true to the Ravens way right. So last week we 840 00:42:44,680 --> 00:42:46,879 Speaker 1: have David Blackburn on the podcast. One of the things 841 00:42:46,920 --> 00:42:50,880 Speaker 1: that he referenced was the infamous or tease emails. Sometimes 842 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:52,960 Speaker 1: get what is it? What does an infamous or tease 843 00:42:53,040 --> 00:42:59,640 Speaker 1: email look like? The infamous ones are long? Alright, So 844 00:42:59,800 --> 00:43:02,719 Speaker 1: like I try not a couple of things, like I 845 00:43:02,880 --> 00:43:05,600 Speaker 1: try not to. We asked the guys to do a 846 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: lot and you know, our scouts are excellent. Okay, I 847 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,360 Speaker 1: want to go. Our Scouts do a tremendous job. All right. 848 00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,520 Speaker 1: We put a lot of stuff on their plates and 849 00:43:13,760 --> 00:43:15,360 Speaker 1: and you know they've been a little they've taken a 850 00:43:15,360 --> 00:43:17,360 Speaker 1: little bit of beaten lately. And uh, you know, I 851 00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:19,440 Speaker 1: challenge anyone to sit out there and do what they 852 00:43:19,480 --> 00:43:21,600 Speaker 1: do and when watch them work, and you tell me 853 00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:23,800 Speaker 1: their heart and soul is not in this organization and 854 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,000 Speaker 1: trying to make us win, you know. And I dare 855 00:43:26,000 --> 00:43:28,520 Speaker 1: I dare anyone to spend a day, spend a week 856 00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:31,000 Speaker 1: with our guys on the road, and uh, I'll be 857 00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:35,920 Speaker 1: passionate to the to the end on that I exhibited there. 858 00:43:36,400 --> 00:43:41,760 Speaker 1: And so, um, sometimes I'll send an email out about 859 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:43,719 Speaker 1: hey guys, this is a project I want us to 860 00:43:43,760 --> 00:43:45,560 Speaker 1: work on. This is something we're gonna this, We're gonna 861 00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,279 Speaker 1: tweak this or make sure and it just kind of 862 00:43:48,440 --> 00:43:50,120 Speaker 1: you know, I cover a lot. I don't send a 863 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:52,480 Speaker 1: lot of emails out. So when I do send an email, 864 00:43:52,880 --> 00:43:54,840 Speaker 1: I cover a lot. I don't send an email. I 865 00:43:54,840 --> 00:43:56,960 Speaker 1: don't I'm like, you know, daily affirmations, you know. So 866 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:00,960 Speaker 1: I'm sending out an email like once every you know, 867 00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,520 Speaker 1: three weeks, you know about in terms of like directives, 868 00:44:04,640 --> 00:44:06,719 Speaker 1: you know, or this is the direction we're gonna go, 869 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:08,640 Speaker 1: or that I want us to start looking at this, 870 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:12,200 Speaker 1: or um. So when they get it it's like, oh boy, 871 00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,719 Speaker 1: and so they know what the more work Coorteau is 872 00:44:16,719 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 1: about to dump more work on it, you know, or 873 00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,800 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta add another layer to things. And 874 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:23,759 Speaker 1: our guys that there's a lot of layers we have them, 875 00:44:23,800 --> 00:44:26,800 Speaker 1: do you know I'm telling you that, I just I 876 00:44:26,920 --> 00:44:30,239 Speaker 1: had I tweaked, We tweaked how we're going to interview guys. 877 00:44:30,440 --> 00:44:33,080 Speaker 1: And you know, it was a process that we're trying 878 00:44:33,120 --> 00:44:34,680 Speaker 1: to come up with, and we came up with it, 879 00:44:34,840 --> 00:44:37,400 Speaker 1: and uh, Corey Crawick and I did a lot of 880 00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,000 Speaker 1: research on it, and we dumped it on them two 881 00:44:40,040 --> 00:44:42,840 Speaker 1: weeks before the week before they all started games, and 882 00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,440 Speaker 1: it was it. It was completely different than and you 883 00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,240 Speaker 1: know what, our guys attacked it and I mean attacked 884 00:44:50,280 --> 00:44:51,920 Speaker 1: it and and I feel like we gained a lot 885 00:44:51,960 --> 00:44:53,880 Speaker 1: out of it. And it's just I'm proud of the 886 00:44:53,960 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: way they anything. Any request I ever give him, any challenge, 887 00:44:58,000 --> 00:45:00,839 Speaker 1: I ever, you know, I or Eric, anything we make 888 00:45:00,920 --> 00:45:03,480 Speaker 1: of them, they answer, they fight, and they battle and 889 00:45:03,800 --> 00:45:07,160 Speaker 1: and you know, I'll go I'll go to my grave. No, 890 00:45:07,360 --> 00:45:10,080 Speaker 1: not that those guys are. I'm proud of them, and 891 00:45:10,200 --> 00:45:11,880 Speaker 1: I appreciate all the work they do for me, so 892 00:45:12,480 --> 00:45:15,360 Speaker 1: I know, and sometimes there's an apology. Guy, sorry for this. 893 00:45:17,440 --> 00:45:19,840 Speaker 1: Whenever you see that from your boss, I'm sorry. I 894 00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:23,280 Speaker 1: never I never apologize for my emails. But it's funny 895 00:45:23,320 --> 00:45:27,400 Speaker 1: like maybe I don't cover something enough and I'll get 896 00:45:27,440 --> 00:45:29,360 Speaker 1: a question. Well, you know, I'll get to follow up, 897 00:45:30,000 --> 00:45:32,360 Speaker 1: and I when I type it, it's common sense like 898 00:45:32,480 --> 00:45:35,239 Speaker 1: as I'm typing it like it's right there. But you know, 899 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:38,200 Speaker 1: because sometimes it gets a little lengthy, like my stories, 900 00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:45,080 Speaker 1: they'll they'll miss the part and uh and they'll email 901 00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,719 Speaker 1: what about this? I'm like, well, as I stated, you know, 902 00:45:48,800 --> 00:45:51,520 Speaker 1: I figured it was like like, hey, I just heard 903 00:45:51,520 --> 00:45:54,799 Speaker 1: about some prospect in Alaska, gonna needs you to fly 904 00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: up there. That's what I figured. Well, there are some 905 00:45:57,440 --> 00:46:01,200 Speaker 1: of those, not necessarily Alaska, but know there are I 906 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,359 Speaker 1: do I do. And that's maybe one of the other 907 00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:06,800 Speaker 1: infamous forties emails is like, as we're getting closer to 908 00:46:07,560 --> 00:46:10,040 Speaker 1: you know, we get done all Star games, Hey, do 909 00:46:10,200 --> 00:46:12,080 Speaker 1: me a favorite look at this guy? You know I 910 00:46:12,239 --> 00:46:14,680 Speaker 1: heard some buzz on this guy or Doug, we dug 911 00:46:14,760 --> 00:46:17,040 Speaker 1: this guy out in the house, you know, take a 912 00:46:17,120 --> 00:46:20,879 Speaker 1: look at So. Yeah, Typically, whenever Hortie sends an email out. 913 00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,360 Speaker 1: It's work, you know, it's not like, hey, how's the 914 00:46:24,440 --> 00:46:28,919 Speaker 1: family doing? So, but I do do I do try 915 00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:30,840 Speaker 1: to talk to the guys during the week, you know, 916 00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:38,279 Speaker 1: but no Horties email normally requires additional work. And so 917 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:42,360 Speaker 1: to end this, to wrap it up, any good stories 918 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:44,680 Speaker 1: from the road you told us your Buzzard story episode 919 00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 1: five for those loyal listeners out there, if you want 920 00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:50,160 Speaker 1: to go back and listen to it's fantastic. Any good 921 00:46:50,200 --> 00:46:52,759 Speaker 1: stories from the road, anything you can share. Yeah, I 922 00:46:52,800 --> 00:46:54,480 Speaker 1: guess all right, here we go. Yeah, it's not really 923 00:46:54,560 --> 00:46:56,640 Speaker 1: that good, Like the guys get everyone gives me a 924 00:46:56,680 --> 00:46:59,600 Speaker 1: hard time about Horties, you know. And my name is 925 00:47:01,320 --> 00:47:04,200 Speaker 1: it's it's it's a unique last name. It's not a 926 00:47:04,320 --> 00:47:08,480 Speaker 1: common last name. So it goes from anything from horror 927 00:47:08,520 --> 00:47:14,440 Speaker 1: It's to heart to Horde, egg Horowitz. Hey you have 928 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:16,200 Speaker 1: pronounced this name. I don't think it's that hard to 929 00:47:16,200 --> 00:47:21,280 Speaker 1: figure out or keyes to Ortega. I mean, I I promise, 930 00:47:21,360 --> 00:47:23,879 Speaker 1: like it's just it gets how heavy is the age? 931 00:47:23,960 --> 00:47:28,239 Speaker 1: Is it? It's for the last time I was saying, 932 00:47:28,280 --> 00:47:31,560 Speaker 1: like we kind of gloss over the h is there. 933 00:47:31,719 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 1: It's pronounced, but it's not a silent age, but you know, 934 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:39,560 Speaker 1: but like you know, it's funny, but I've just become 935 00:47:39,600 --> 00:47:42,399 Speaker 1: accustomed to it. But I thought I heard them all. 936 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 1: And I was at UH Texas this year, and I 937 00:47:47,640 --> 00:47:51,080 Speaker 1: think Horvits. I think the name Horbits, and I don't know. 938 00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,600 Speaker 1: I think that would be a Jewish name horse. I 939 00:47:54,680 --> 00:47:58,160 Speaker 1: don't know. Um, I know Horowitz is and which I've 940 00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:01,680 Speaker 1: been called many times, but I've never been called Horvets. 941 00:48:01,760 --> 00:48:04,400 Speaker 1: And I was in Terry. I mentioned Terry mcdonn earlier. 942 00:48:04,600 --> 00:48:07,160 Speaker 1: He was in the building when one of our coaches 943 00:48:07,160 --> 00:48:08,839 Speaker 1: actually sent it facts to me when I was young, 944 00:48:09,239 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: Jose Ortega, so they he literally addressed the facts to 945 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:17,440 Speaker 1: Jose Ortega. Jesse Marcason got it and she was like, 946 00:48:17,600 --> 00:48:21,359 Speaker 1: I think this means you last. So this year I'm 947 00:48:21,360 --> 00:48:24,320 Speaker 1: at in Houston and the guy I was like, okay, 948 00:48:24,440 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: Mr Horvits, and I'm like Horvits, Like where did the 949 00:48:27,160 --> 00:48:30,640 Speaker 1: v come from? You know? So that's the best story, 950 00:48:31,520 --> 00:48:33,239 Speaker 1: like where I just made me laugh. So I had 951 00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:35,320 Speaker 1: to call Terry and like, I got another one for you. 952 00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,320 Speaker 1: I got another name that I've been called, well, Joe Horvets. 953 00:48:39,360 --> 00:48:44,640 Speaker 1: Thank always funny? All right, Well, good stuff from Joe. 954 00:48:45,000 --> 00:48:47,640 Speaker 1: Lots of good stuff from Joe. I didn't ask him, 955 00:48:47,920 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: you know, we asked Blackburn the question of who you 956 00:48:50,360 --> 00:48:53,080 Speaker 1: would draft higher? We should ask asked to give it 957 00:48:53,120 --> 00:48:55,040 Speaker 1: a direct answer. I asked Joe on his way down, 958 00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:57,160 Speaker 1: and he said he said, without a doubt to be 959 00:48:57,480 --> 00:48:58,759 Speaker 1: He just he didn't want to hurt your feelings. He 960 00:48:58,880 --> 00:49:00,200 Speaker 1: told me not to ask it on their cause he 961 00:49:00,200 --> 00:49:01,560 Speaker 1: felt like he was gonna hurt your feelings and didn't 962 00:49:01,560 --> 00:49:03,400 Speaker 1: want to be rude. So he did tell me it 963 00:49:03,480 --> 00:49:05,919 Speaker 1: was gonna be me. He did, in all seriousness once 964 00:49:05,960 --> 00:49:07,800 Speaker 1: again say he would only do the podcast if I 965 00:49:08,000 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: stood uh with like in the corner. Yeah. Well, first 966 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,000 Speaker 1: he said behind a fake bush. Yeah. First of all, 967 00:49:14,040 --> 00:49:15,840 Speaker 1: he said that he wouldn't do the podcast. Have you 968 00:49:15,880 --> 00:49:17,399 Speaker 1: were going to be in the room, man. I talked 969 00:49:17,480 --> 00:49:19,520 Speaker 1: him into, okay, making me in the room, but he 970 00:49:19,560 --> 00:49:23,360 Speaker 1: has to be behind a veil, you know. So we 971 00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,320 Speaker 1: did this whole interview with make behind a drape. That's anyway, 972 00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,920 Speaker 1: thank you for listening. We'll be back. We won't be 973 00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:32,879 Speaker 1: back next week. We're not gonna have a pod because, 974 00:49:32,920 --> 00:49:35,480 Speaker 1: as you mentioned, Garrett will be in Indianapolis for the 975 00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:38,560 Speaker 1: combine but as soon as he gets back, I'm talking 976 00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:40,640 Speaker 1: to Day of Grey. You're gonna get off, get your 977 00:49:40,640 --> 00:49:43,759 Speaker 1: baggage claim, come right in record the pod. We're gonna 978 00:49:43,840 --> 00:49:46,920 Speaker 1: get your thoughts on everything that happened during the combine 979 00:49:46,960 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 1: a full breakdown. I'm gonna agree with you, so you 980 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:50,920 Speaker 1: better be taking a lot this big boy. I'll have 981 00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:52,520 Speaker 1: some good stuff right for you, all right, So we'll 982 00:49:52,560 --> 00:49:54,760 Speaker 1: be back with you the week after next. 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