1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio News, The. 2 00:00:08,880 --> 00:00:13,160 Speaker 2: Stock Movers podcast, your roundup of companies making moves in 3 00:00:13,200 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 2: the stock market, harnessing the power of Bloomberg data. 4 00:00:18,120 --> 00:00:19,720 Speaker 1: Let's take a look at some stocks on the move 5 00:00:19,880 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 1: on this Thursday. Bloomberg News Deputy team Leader for US 6 00:00:22,640 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: Equities Jess Mettin on the Thursday Stock Movers. 7 00:00:26,160 --> 00:00:27,520 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello, It's. 8 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:30,120 Speaker 3: Been another fun day for us on the stocks too. 9 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys are busy business. 10 00:00:33,000 --> 00:00:35,199 Speaker 5: We live for though, and it's always important because you 11 00:00:35,200 --> 00:00:36,800 Speaker 5: want to look at the winners and the losers when 12 00:00:36,800 --> 00:00:38,600 Speaker 5: you're looking at a lot of these trades, because there's 13 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:41,440 Speaker 5: always both sides see that. And when you look more 14 00:00:41,479 --> 00:00:44,280 Speaker 5: particularly obviously auto stocks making a lot of big moves 15 00:00:44,360 --> 00:00:47,279 Speaker 5: underneath the surface here today. So of course, when you're 16 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,920 Speaker 5: thinking about the Big three, whether it's GM, Ford Stillantis 17 00:00:50,960 --> 00:00:53,000 Speaker 5: of course Ford getting hit the heart it is just 18 00:00:53,040 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 5: given when you're thinking about the percentages here of the 19 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,600 Speaker 5: amount of vehicles that GM does import in its particular 20 00:00:59,680 --> 00:01:02,760 Speaker 5: tie is to exposure toward Mexico. It getting hit the 21 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,160 Speaker 5: hardest here down actually over seven percent today. It was 22 00:01:06,200 --> 00:01:09,480 Speaker 5: the worst day since January actually twenty eight there. But 23 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:11,160 Speaker 5: then I have to point out some of the winners 24 00:01:11,200 --> 00:01:13,840 Speaker 5: though within that as well, because you have rental car companies, 25 00:01:13,880 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 5: whether you're looking at Hurts or Amis, those were actually rallying. 26 00:01:17,720 --> 00:01:20,200 Speaker 5: So really a lot of strategies we're talking about how 27 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:24,319 Speaker 5: tariffs could potentially boost the value of the call company's fleets. Here, 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:27,080 Speaker 5: So if you're looking at AVS up over twenty percent 29 00:01:27,160 --> 00:01:30,319 Speaker 5: today when Hurts there were twenty three percent off the chart, No, 30 00:01:30,360 --> 00:01:32,360 Speaker 5: it is and it Hurts that was the biggest percentage 31 00:01:32,360 --> 00:01:33,559 Speaker 5: game for Hurts on record. 32 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 3: If you go look at the SINS function, it makes sense. 33 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:41,160 Speaker 4: It makes sense because if autos become more expensive, yes, 34 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,440 Speaker 4: new cars because of these tariffs, and this is from 35 00:01:44,480 --> 00:01:47,640 Speaker 4: Steve Mann at Bloomberg Intelligence, great research, check it out. 36 00:01:48,120 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: It makes sense because then demand for used cars goes up. 37 00:01:52,080 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 4: Who are the biggest sellers of used cars? While it's 38 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,880 Speaker 4: the rental car companies with their fleets, that's right. 39 00:01:56,920 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 5: And then of course the different autopart makers too were 40 00:01:59,680 --> 00:02:02,200 Speaker 5: rallying on that. So you have O'Riley up about three percent, 41 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 5: not as much as some of these other companies that 42 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,680 Speaker 5: we're talking about, Aviser, Hurts, but then AutoZone two up 43 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:08,600 Speaker 5: about four percent. So to your points, and when you're 44 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,959 Speaker 5: thinking the story in the terminal talking about how those 45 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:13,840 Speaker 5: impending tariffs on Canada and Mexico to risk driving up 46 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,840 Speaker 5: US car prices by as much as twelve thousand. 47 00:02:16,440 --> 00:02:19,600 Speaker 4: Dollars, you gotta love just metten. She is charged with 48 00:02:19,960 --> 00:02:21,160 Speaker 4: bringing three names. 49 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 3: I know, I think we've. 50 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:28,120 Speaker 4: Already three names, and she brings three categories, each with 51 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,880 Speaker 4: multiple names. That's jess ment We do love it. 52 00:02:30,960 --> 00:02:31,480 Speaker 2: We do love it. 53 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 4: Okay, jess Menton, Let's talk about something these You could 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:38,000 Speaker 4: argue that, you know, the autos are sort of attached 55 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:42,239 Speaker 4: to reality. Give us something that's completely detached from reality. 56 00:02:42,400 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 4: It lives in its own world. 57 00:02:45,080 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, I might say. 58 00:02:46,080 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 3: I mean it's interesting. 59 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 5: Yesterday you had that stuck up what close to about 60 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 5: twelve percent, Today down over twenty two percent, so that 61 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,800 Speaker 5: wiped out a quarter of its market value, is about 62 00:02:55,800 --> 00:02:59,000 Speaker 5: three billion dollars lost in its market caps. So yesterday 63 00:02:59,000 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 5: you saw the stock higher because there were those anticipations 64 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:03,960 Speaker 5: of some of the news that it was announcing about 65 00:03:03,960 --> 00:03:07,239 Speaker 5: trying to load up on bitcoin. But then today we 66 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 5: got more specifics on that about basically loading up on debt. 67 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 5: So when you're hearing different phrases like convertible bonds to 68 00:03:14,000 --> 00:03:17,320 Speaker 5: fund those bitcoins. That's why you're seeing that stock actually 69 00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 5: decimated today. And even just some context, if you look 70 00:03:19,639 --> 00:03:21,880 Speaker 5: at the GP function and pull it back during of course, 71 00:03:21,919 --> 00:03:23,640 Speaker 5: the height of the meme frenzy in the beginning of 72 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,360 Speaker 5: twenty twenty one, I mean that stocks it down about 73 00:03:26,360 --> 00:03:28,400 Speaker 5: seventy five percent from that all time high back in 74 00:03:28,440 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 5: January twenty twenty. 75 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:32,119 Speaker 4: Taking a page out of Michael Saylor's book, over at Strategy, 76 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 4: the company formerly known as micro Strategy, and it really 77 00:03:34,840 --> 00:03:35,480 Speaker 4: worked today. 78 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 3: No it did not, No, No, it did not. 79 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into an area I love in 80 00:03:41,160 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 1: adoor and I spend a lot of money pets. 81 00:03:42,800 --> 00:03:45,680 Speaker 3: Woof, woof, that's right, woolf. I love that ticker symbol 82 00:03:45,720 --> 00:03:48,120 Speaker 3: on pet Co. So I wanted to bring this up. 83 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:50,400 Speaker 5: I know y'all were talking about Chewy yesterday, and so 84 00:03:50,480 --> 00:03:53,160 Speaker 5: here's another when we were talking about the economy people 85 00:03:53,240 --> 00:03:55,160 Speaker 5: spending money, but when you're looking at some of these, 86 00:03:56,080 --> 00:03:59,960 Speaker 5: especially companies tied to pets, people are still going out 87 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:02,520 Speaker 5: and spending money on this. So some context, Peco had 88 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,480 Speaker 5: gone public three times, so the first time was a 89 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,000 Speaker 5: ninety four, it would again in two thousand and two, 90 00:04:07,040 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 5: and then of course this last time was in twenty 91 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 5: twenty one. 92 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:11,720 Speaker 3: But since then it's been having different issues. 93 00:04:11,720 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 5: If you look at that chart price too, it was 94 00:04:13,840 --> 00:04:16,160 Speaker 5: trading and nearly thirty dollars a few years ago. 95 00:04:16,200 --> 00:04:18,160 Speaker 3: Now it's just above three dollars. So it's been in 96 00:04:18,160 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 3: infrastructuring right, and. 97 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:22,320 Speaker 5: Closing a lot of stores, but that has been helping 98 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,159 Speaker 5: some of its margins. So RBC was pointing out that 99 00:04:25,240 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 5: they do feel like it has more upside potential just 100 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,240 Speaker 5: because of how decimated that stock has been and they're 101 00:04:30,240 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 5: seeing so optimism there on some of the margin pain, 102 00:04:32,720 --> 00:04:35,120 Speaker 5: so they actually think that it does have a path 103 00:04:35,480 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 5: towards actually more profitability in the near term. 104 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:39,320 Speaker 3: But UBS is. 105 00:04:39,279 --> 00:04:41,920 Speaker 5: Still pointing out that that can only go so far 106 00:04:42,040 --> 00:04:44,320 Speaker 5: as more stores are being closed, So how do you 107 00:04:44,360 --> 00:04:45,880 Speaker 5: compete with a company like Chewy'. 108 00:04:45,920 --> 00:04:48,280 Speaker 3: So there still are some longer term implications here. When 109 00:04:48,279 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 3: you're looking at this stock. 110 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,360 Speaker 1: You see the percentage of the float that's shortened. 111 00:04:52,040 --> 00:04:55,160 Speaker 3: That's right, almost forty percent. Yeah, it's wild when you 112 00:04:55,200 --> 00:04:56,320 Speaker 3: look at different functions like that. 113 00:04:56,600 --> 00:04:59,120 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, so investors are betting it's going to 114 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: go lower. I mean, it's a three dollars stock at 115 00:05:01,080 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 1: this point. I mean, it's kind of amazing considering how 116 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:05,720 Speaker 1: much we do spend on our pets that you would think, 117 00:05:06,200 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know pet parents, they would 118 00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:09,600 Speaker 1: be in a different position. 119 00:05:09,720 --> 00:05:11,360 Speaker 5: I don't have a dog right now, but I'm definitely 120 00:05:11,360 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 5: thinking about getting one, so you know, maybe I'll visit 121 00:05:13,800 --> 00:05:14,040 Speaker 5: the store. 122 00:05:14,120 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 1: So end I'm a big I know, we just talked Petco, 123 00:05:17,320 --> 00:05:20,120 Speaker 1: but we're big into Chewy. Yeah, delivered to your door, 124 00:05:20,200 --> 00:05:22,320 Speaker 1: those big poom bags of food. 125 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, someone else has to carry them, you don't. 126 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 3: That's exactly right, Jess Meton, Thank you so much. 127 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:30,720 Speaker 1: We really appreciate Bloomberg News Deputy team leader for US Equit. 128 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: He's just met and joining us right here. 129 00:05:33,760 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 2: The Stock Movers podcast from Bloomberg Radio. Check back with 130 00:05:38,000 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: us throughout the day for the latest roundup of companies 131 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 2: making news on Wall Street and for the latest market 132 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:48,240 Speaker 2: moving headlines. 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