1 00:00:02,520 --> 00:00:07,080 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, Podcasts, radio News. 2 00:00:07,400 --> 00:00:09,520 Speaker 2: So we did talk about AI there with Kate a 3 00:00:09,520 --> 00:00:12,639 Speaker 2: little bit in a broader conversation. It is a very 4 00:00:12,680 --> 00:00:15,800 Speaker 2: big theme for us on this Tuesday. This says we 5 00:00:15,840 --> 00:00:19,520 Speaker 2: are seeing shares of Nokia ADR soaring our news today 6 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,120 Speaker 2: on the news that Nvidia plans to make a one 7 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:25,760 Speaker 2: billion dollar equity investment in Nokia. It's an apparent vindication 8 00:00:25,840 --> 00:00:29,200 Speaker 2: of the finished company's pivot from mobile networking kit into 9 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 2: artificial intelligence by the sector's kingmaker. We've got all the details. 10 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:37,280 Speaker 1: And in Vidio and Video CEO Jensen Wong, he's the 11 00:00:37,320 --> 00:00:40,000 Speaker 1: co founder, president CEO of Nvidia. He's sitting down right 12 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:43,360 Speaker 1: now with Justin Hothard, President and CEO of Nokia, along 13 00:00:43,400 --> 00:00:46,720 Speaker 1: with Bloomberg Tech co host ed Ludlow Take it Away, Ed. 14 00:00:47,479 --> 00:00:51,760 Speaker 3: Wow, fantastic, Thank you team, Jensen. I'll start with you 15 00:00:51,800 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 3: if I may. I want to try and understand something 16 00:00:54,200 --> 00:00:57,760 Speaker 3: you mentioned very briefly, which is the strategic importance of 17 00:00:57,840 --> 00:01:01,600 Speaker 3: not just the equity state partnership on technology, and not 18 00:01:01,720 --> 00:01:04,360 Speaker 3: just for Nvidia, but for America. Why are you moving 19 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:05,160 Speaker 3: into this domain? 20 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:05,959 Speaker 4: One? 21 00:01:06,520 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 5: We announced a brand new platform for a new market. 22 00:01:10,520 --> 00:01:12,880 Speaker 5: We've never been in and so that's number one. Number two, 23 00:01:13,600 --> 00:01:16,960 Speaker 5: if we take advantage of this transition from general purpose 24 00:01:17,000 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 5: computing to accelerated computing, from old types of all types 25 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:23,680 Speaker 5: of software to AI, we can take advantage of this 26 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:27,280 Speaker 5: transition of AI and six G for America to win 27 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 5: back telecommunications again. It's been a long time since the 28 00:01:31,120 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 5: American telecommunication network has been built on American technology. 29 00:01:34,440 --> 00:01:36,280 Speaker 4: Way national security, I believe for. 30 00:01:36,319 --> 00:01:39,120 Speaker 5: National security reasons, for economic reasons, our industry should be 31 00:01:39,160 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 5: built on American technology. And for the very first time, 32 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:43,240 Speaker 5: we can do that. We have a brand new product 33 00:01:43,280 --> 00:01:46,560 Speaker 5: line that takes advantage of computing, accelerated computing and AI, 34 00:01:47,000 --> 00:01:49,360 Speaker 5: and we have a great partner to help us deal 35 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:50,080 Speaker 5: it with Nokia. 36 00:01:51,040 --> 00:01:54,440 Speaker 3: The market reaction kind of speaks for itself. There was 37 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:57,880 Speaker 3: a time where Nokia was already looking to America. You've 38 00:01:57,880 --> 00:01:59,960 Speaker 3: been in the role since April, But may I stop 39 00:02:00,080 --> 00:02:03,160 Speaker 3: asking you what role the administration played in bringing you 40 00:02:03,200 --> 00:02:06,720 Speaker 3: both together? If this is indeed a strategic priority, I. 41 00:02:06,720 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 6: Don't think there was anything specific that the administration did 42 00:02:09,840 --> 00:02:13,320 Speaker 6: other than they've created the environment to support innovation. I mean, 43 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:16,040 Speaker 6: Jensen's talked about manufacturing, but it's also about R and 44 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:20,000 Speaker 6: D and innovation and technology leadership. And if you think 45 00:02:20,040 --> 00:02:22,799 Speaker 6: about where this world is going and all those incredible 46 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:26,120 Speaker 6: devices are going to be built on in video platforms, robotics, 47 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 6: autonomous vehicles, augmented reality, virtual reality, we need a different 48 00:02:30,800 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 6: kind of network in the future. And that's what we realized, 49 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 6: and that's why we wanted to forge this partnership so 50 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:41,799 Speaker 6: that we're building a network leveraging AI for AI services 51 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:43,359 Speaker 6: and that's really the big change here. 52 00:02:43,680 --> 00:02:45,280 Speaker 4: The technology is flowing both ways. 53 00:02:45,320 --> 00:02:46,640 Speaker 3: I mean, what is it that you will be able 54 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,520 Speaker 3: to do with Nokia Jensen un't able to do on 55 00:02:49,560 --> 00:02:49,920 Speaker 3: your own. 56 00:02:50,120 --> 00:02:53,240 Speaker 5: Well, first of all, Nokia is in all of the 57 00:02:53,240 --> 00:02:56,880 Speaker 5: world's base stations, and this air scale platform of Nokia's 58 00:02:56,960 --> 00:02:59,639 Speaker 5: millions of base stations around the world. If our computers 59 00:02:59,639 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 5: are not inside that base station doesn't help. It's no 60 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:05,079 Speaker 5: different than in videos tech computing platforms not inside a car, 61 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,160 Speaker 5: it doesn't help. And so the first thing is we 62 00:03:07,240 --> 00:03:09,600 Speaker 5: need a partner to get us into the world's base stations. 63 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:14,680 Speaker 5: We also remember we're bringing AI to radio networks, AI 64 00:03:14,720 --> 00:03:18,120 Speaker 5: to RAM so that we can make wireless tech communications 65 00:03:18,160 --> 00:03:22,200 Speaker 5: a lot more efficient. Second, we're bringing AI for the radio, 66 00:03:22,280 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 5: meaning on top of these radio networks and these telecommunication 67 00:03:25,840 --> 00:03:28,359 Speaker 5: network we're going to be able to provide AI services, 68 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:30,120 Speaker 5: which is going to be able to make it easier 69 00:03:30,160 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 5: for us to do robotics and autonomous vehicles and industrial 70 00:03:33,200 --> 00:03:36,920 Speaker 5: automation and reach all of the different places around the world. 71 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 5: That's kind of hard to deal with Wi Fi, cellular reads, everything, 72 00:03:40,760 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 5: and so we now have this fabric that we can 73 00:03:43,800 --> 00:03:48,360 Speaker 5: deploy AI computing services on top of it. It's going 74 00:03:48,400 --> 00:03:50,600 Speaker 5: to be completely revolutionary in. 75 00:03:50,520 --> 00:03:54,600 Speaker 3: Your world and in your market. Huawei is an influential player, 76 00:03:54,880 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 3: not just in Europe. I think also about the Middle 77 00:03:56,760 --> 00:04:01,920 Speaker 3: East and Africa. How important is the relationship with Nvidia 78 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 3: to be able to counter, you know, what Huawei does 79 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 3: in those markets. 80 00:04:06,600 --> 00:04:08,800 Speaker 6: Yeah. Look, I think for us, one of the principles 81 00:04:08,840 --> 00:04:10,640 Speaker 6: I've had with my team since coming in has been 82 00:04:11,200 --> 00:04:13,400 Speaker 6: do what we can do that no one else can do, 83 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 6: and that is air scale what we do with any 84 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:18,000 Speaker 6: RAND software, the software that runs on it that we're 85 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 6: going to be putting on on the Nvidia ARC platform, 86 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 6: that do what we can do well and partner with 87 00:04:24,080 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 6: the best everywhere else. And this is a this is 88 00:04:26,680 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 6: a clear opportunity to partner with the best, and by 89 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:33,640 Speaker 6: the way, that's where America and the Western world succeeds 90 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,520 Speaker 6: because we don't necessarily have one company doing everything like Huawei. 91 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,919 Speaker 6: We succeed because we partner aggressively. And you if you 92 00:04:40,920 --> 00:04:43,479 Speaker 6: watch GTT today, it was hard to not find it 93 00:04:43,520 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 6: obvious that you're partnering with everybody. But that's the advantage 94 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:49,719 Speaker 6: is this partnership. So we do what we do best, 95 00:04:50,000 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 6: we let in Video do what they do best, and 96 00:04:52,080 --> 00:04:56,080 Speaker 6: ultimately our customers win, and ultimately for America. I think 97 00:04:56,080 --> 00:04:58,479 Speaker 6: America will win because there'll be more innovation faster. 98 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 5: Nobody knows telecommunity locations better than Nokia. They've been at 99 00:05:02,680 --> 00:05:04,440 Speaker 5: it for a long time. They're all over the world. 100 00:05:04,760 --> 00:05:08,440 Speaker 5: And between our two partnerships, we know how wireless total communications. 101 00:05:08,960 --> 00:05:12,640 Speaker 5: We have AI, and we have accelerated computing all in 102 00:05:12,680 --> 00:05:15,520 Speaker 5: this partnership, and so all of that capability is going 103 00:05:15,560 --> 00:05:17,960 Speaker 5: to be brought to bear for the next generation of 104 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:20,520 Speaker 5: six G and I think that's a this is a 105 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:22,920 Speaker 5: this is the capabilities we bring together, and this partnership 106 00:05:22,960 --> 00:05:26,000 Speaker 5: is quite unique and informatible, inform formidable. 107 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 3: Why was it important Jensen that Nvidia ends up with 108 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:30,600 Speaker 3: almost three percent of Nokia. 109 00:05:30,720 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 4: What was the rationale behind that? 110 00:05:32,600 --> 00:05:35,640 Speaker 5: The work that we're doing is so intensive and quite frankly, 111 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,160 Speaker 5: I was so optimistic about it and so excited about it, 112 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,120 Speaker 5: and that we wanted to invest in Nokia so that 113 00:05:41,160 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 5: we could be part, you know, of this incredible success 114 00:05:43,839 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 5: that we're creating together. And I got to tell you 115 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 5: that that move was pretty genius. 116 00:05:47,120 --> 00:05:50,039 Speaker 3: Once you say, that's not for me to come correct, 117 00:05:50,120 --> 00:05:52,560 Speaker 3: what I'd observe is, you know, twenty five percent jump 118 00:05:52,640 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 3: in the ADRs, what does that signal to you? You know? 119 00:05:56,160 --> 00:05:59,359 Speaker 3: In video with respect Gensen, I've known to be about speed. 120 00:05:59,880 --> 00:06:02,640 Speaker 3: Is that giving you a technology that you wouldn't otherwise have? 121 00:06:02,839 --> 00:06:05,080 Speaker 3: Or and have you now a way of just moving faster? 122 00:06:05,640 --> 00:06:09,360 Speaker 6: Yeah? It's both. I mean there's obviously you know, there's 123 00:06:09,400 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 6: no way we're going to have in videos technology and 124 00:06:11,279 --> 00:06:14,359 Speaker 6: accelerated computing. I mean, the Kuda software stack, all of 125 00:06:14,400 --> 00:06:17,599 Speaker 6: the capabilities, even the fundamentals of what's in area. The 126 00:06:17,640 --> 00:06:21,279 Speaker 6: software stack that in video is built is an accelerator 127 00:06:21,320 --> 00:06:23,960 Speaker 6: for us. And then it's about speed because now we 128 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,559 Speaker 6: can innovate much faster. And for us, it's that shift 129 00:06:26,600 --> 00:06:29,719 Speaker 6: into adding value in software and thinking more like a 130 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:31,960 Speaker 6: software company, or really not like a software company, like 131 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,479 Speaker 6: an application company that's going to use AI and AI 132 00:06:34,560 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 6: models to continue to innovate and move faster. And I 133 00:06:37,880 --> 00:06:40,359 Speaker 6: think the market recognizes that this is the kind of 134 00:06:40,400 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 6: innovation that this industry is needed. Look, this industry has 135 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:46,760 Speaker 6: a history. Three G. We were building better voice networks 136 00:06:46,800 --> 00:06:49,640 Speaker 6: when the Internet was getting started. Four G, five G 137 00:06:49,800 --> 00:06:52,800 Speaker 6: we were building data networks behind where the market was. 138 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:55,040 Speaker 6: And today five G when you look at it globally, 139 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,760 Speaker 6: is still only partially deployed. So as you look ahead, 140 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,200 Speaker 6: in order to innovate, got to move much faster, and 141 00:07:01,240 --> 00:07:03,839 Speaker 6: we need to enable our customers to have different and 142 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:04,640 Speaker 6: better technology. 143 00:07:04,680 --> 00:07:07,360 Speaker 5: And with this partnership, all of a sudden, speaking of speed, 144 00:07:07,600 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 5: we're in Blackwell today. It's going to go to Reuben, 145 00:07:09,920 --> 00:07:11,640 Speaker 5: it's going to go Findman, and it's going to go 146 00:07:11,680 --> 00:07:14,440 Speaker 5: on a clip that basically is at the speed of light. 147 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,680 Speaker 4: And I'm going to ask you to clarify something. Jensen. 148 00:07:16,800 --> 00:07:18,120 Speaker 4: You showed a slide. 149 00:07:17,840 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 3: Behind you five hundred billion dollars over what I think 150 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:26,200 Speaker 3: illustrated six financial quarters, but twenty million Blackwell five financial quarters, 151 00:07:26,240 --> 00:07:30,000 Speaker 3: five financial quarters does that figure include networking. We know 152 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 3: it doesn't include China because it seemed to be technically 153 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,200 Speaker 3: above consensus, right, But you seem to be suggesting that 154 00:07:36,280 --> 00:07:39,760 Speaker 3: there is near term actually an acceleration beyond what you 155 00:07:39,800 --> 00:07:40,520 Speaker 3: were expecting. 156 00:07:41,080 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 5: All of that was only data center, justin That's the 157 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:45,960 Speaker 5: amazing thing. All of that is only data center. Today 158 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 5: we are now several new platforms, the Nvidia Drive Hyperium platform, 159 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:54,040 Speaker 5: our Arc platform, our Quantum platform. None of that is 160 00:07:54,080 --> 00:07:57,480 Speaker 5: included in that half a trillion dollars. No networking, no 161 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,160 Speaker 5: networking whatsoever. Well, that's data centers networking and Vida networking 162 00:08:01,200 --> 00:08:04,960 Speaker 5: for data centers, but not wireless networking, not wireless telecommunications. 163 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:07,560 Speaker 3: When do we see a real world manifestation of the 164 00:08:07,560 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 3: work that you're both getting to do together. 165 00:08:09,280 --> 00:08:11,280 Speaker 6: Yeah, there's there's work going already. You can see a 166 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,920 Speaker 6: demo actually at the booth here in GtC. You can. 167 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:17,440 Speaker 6: You'll also see customer trials early next year, and then 168 00:08:17,480 --> 00:08:21,160 Speaker 6: we think in full commercial production in twenty seven. And 169 00:08:21,280 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 6: you know the great thing about the partnership with Jensen 170 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 6: is I know he'll be pushing me to go faster, 171 00:08:25,440 --> 00:08:27,600 Speaker 6: which and I'll be pushing his team to go faster 172 00:08:27,680 --> 00:08:29,680 Speaker 6: and together that means that we can get to market 173 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 6: as soon as as soon as practical for our customer. 174 00:08:32,480 --> 00:08:35,719 Speaker 5: ARC is backwards compatible with air Scale, right, and all 175 00:08:35,760 --> 00:08:38,280 Speaker 5: of those millions of base stations could be upgraded to 176 00:08:38,400 --> 00:08:39,760 Speaker 5: six G and AI. 177 00:08:40,760 --> 00:08:43,800 Speaker 3: On six G though right, like we're grawing standards just 178 00:08:43,840 --> 00:08:46,400 Speaker 3: as simple, Yes or no question. Really is the six 179 00:08:46,480 --> 00:08:49,000 Speaker 3: G timeline accelerated because of this partnership. 180 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 6: I think it is because what you can actually do 181 00:08:51,240 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 6: now is you know exactly to what Jensen said you 182 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,680 Speaker 6: can you can deploy with ARC, and then if something happens, 183 00:08:56,720 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 6: or the standard evolves, or you know, or there's there's change, 184 00:09:00,840 --> 00:09:03,200 Speaker 6: it'll just be a software model update that we deploy 185 00:09:03,200 --> 00:09:05,920 Speaker 6: in applications. It's a completely different model than what we're 186 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:08,440 Speaker 6: used to back in the days of deploying these complex 187 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:12,719 Speaker 6: integrated legacy appliances. It's general purpose accelerated computing. And that's 188 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 6: why we think it's so compelling. If the standards change, 189 00:09:15,000 --> 00:09:17,400 Speaker 6: you got to go fix a chip. If the standards change, 190 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 6: you're justin. I just upgrade the software, the Kuda software. 191 00:09:20,440 --> 00:09:22,360 Speaker 6: That's the amazing thing, Jensen. 192 00:09:22,720 --> 00:09:24,680 Speaker 4: You are traveling onwards now to Asia. 193 00:09:25,640 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 3: I don't know what your schedule is for the jet 194 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,040 Speaker 3: and I don't know if you and the President will 195 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 3: be at the same place at the same time. He 196 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,959 Speaker 3: seemed to think you would be. But the main point 197 00:09:33,160 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 3: is is that you're here in Washington, DC. We're a 198 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:37,720 Speaker 3: few blocks from the White House. You called it the 199 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 3: AI super Bowl. Others called it that too, But everyone 200 00:09:40,600 --> 00:09:44,280 Speaker 3: is inferring from this that this was about all of 201 00:09:44,280 --> 00:09:47,040 Speaker 3: the things we talked about all year, that you want 202 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 3: to be closely aligned with this administration and while in Asia, 203 00:09:51,160 --> 00:09:53,240 Speaker 3: that there is something that the President needs to work 204 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: on in the context of China trade negotiations. Whether you 205 00:09:56,840 --> 00:09:58,320 Speaker 3: get to meet him or not, what is it that 206 00:09:58,360 --> 00:10:01,400 Speaker 3: you need the president to do. From Nvidia to accelerate 207 00:10:01,440 --> 00:10:02,040 Speaker 3: on its plans. 208 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 5: We need the president to do what's right for America, 209 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 5: and I'm certain he's going to go do that. The 210 00:10:07,200 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 5: reason why we're here is because technology is now so 211 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,800 Speaker 5: important in politics and geopolitics. It is the single most 212 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 5: important industry in America. It is our national treasure, and 213 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:21,760 Speaker 5: it's important for us to make sure that Washington, DC 214 00:10:22,040 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 5: and the policy makers and all of the people who 215 00:10:24,559 --> 00:10:28,840 Speaker 5: serve our country to make it great understands the technology 216 00:10:28,880 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 5: as it stands today and where we're going to go 217 00:10:30,520 --> 00:10:32,839 Speaker 5: and the companies that matter to us, so that we 218 00:10:32,880 --> 00:10:39,920 Speaker 5: can make America great. And so that was the primary reason. Well, 219 00:10:40,000 --> 00:10:42,680 Speaker 5: first of all, whenever there's an opportunity to see the President, 220 00:10:42,920 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 5: I always love that he's incredibly engaging, He always learning, 221 00:10:46,880 --> 00:10:49,320 Speaker 5: and he wants to help America win. He wants America 222 00:10:49,360 --> 00:10:49,600 Speaker 5: to win. 223 00:10:49,800 --> 00:10:52,480 Speaker 3: This is my final question. I was trying to interpret 224 00:10:52,520 --> 00:10:55,280 Speaker 3: what you were saying. It was a detailed presentation, but 225 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 3: you talked about how AI is now worth paying for. 226 00:10:58,679 --> 00:11:02,000 Speaker 3: You talked about the end or not of Moore's law, 227 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:04,360 Speaker 3: depending on your point of view, but the need to 228 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:08,079 Speaker 3: scale to meet demand. Was that you saying we are 229 00:11:08,240 --> 00:11:09,840 Speaker 3: not in an AI bubble. 230 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 5: I don't believe we're in an AI bubble, and the 231 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,839 Speaker 5: reason for that is we're going through a natural transition 232 00:11:16,440 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 5: from an old computing model based on general purpose computing 233 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 5: to accelerated computing. We also know that AI has now 234 00:11:23,960 --> 00:11:27,760 Speaker 5: become good enough because of reasoning capability, research capabilities, its 235 00:11:27,800 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 5: ability to think. It's now generating tokens and now generating 236 00:11:31,400 --> 00:11:35,320 Speaker 5: intelligence that's worth paying for, to the point where I'm 237 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:38,319 Speaker 5: paying lots of it. Cursor is all over in video. 238 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 5: Every single one of our engineers use it. We pay 239 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:42,200 Speaker 5: lots and lots of money for it, and we're delighted 240 00:11:42,200 --> 00:11:44,760 Speaker 5: to do it. And curser' is just one of the applications. 241 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,960 Speaker 4: You know, what is it? 242 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:54,760 Speaker 5: Eleven eleven eleven tech I forget. But anyways, all of 243 00:11:54,800 --> 00:11:57,559 Speaker 5: these different AI models that we're using, we're using plenty 244 00:11:57,559 --> 00:12:00,160 Speaker 5: of services and paying, paying, happily doing. 245 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:04,520 Speaker 3: Justin Hotard, the Nokia CEO, Jensen Wang, Nvidia CEO, and 246 00:12:04,559 --> 00:12:06,760 Speaker 3: our host here in Washington, d C, thank you both 247 00:12:06,840 --> 00:12:07,240 Speaker 3: very much. 248 00:12:07,679 --> 00:12:08,280 Speaker 4: Back to you. 249 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 2: That of course was Bloomberg, co host of b Tech 250 00:12:14,080 --> 00:12:17,640 Speaker 2: Ed Ludlow there at the GtC Nvidia event in Washington, 251 00:12:17,720 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: d C, along with the CEO of Nvidia Jensen Wang, 252 00:12:21,520 --> 00:12:25,720 Speaker 2: and of course also there with the CEO of Nvidia, 253 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:25,840 Speaker 2: the