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Speaker 1: I'm gonna rag on Doug Gottlieb and I have to

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Speaker 1: what's the name of the segment?

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Speaker 3: Because Doug does it on his show. What does the

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Speaker 3: Fox say?

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Speaker 1: He listens to what we might outtake and then he

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Speaker 1: kind of takes us to task on his show, which

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Speaker 1: is fine, I'm good. This is all game. We're on

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Speaker 1: the air. And that has to do with James Franklin.

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Speaker 1: What do you think like he's so bent out of

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Speaker 1: shape that Penn State fire Ben, Ben Franklin, James Franklin

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Speaker 1: and Doug.

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Speaker 3: I get it.

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Speaker 1: Doug's a coach who hasn't won, so he's making it

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Speaker 1: like like he could say, what.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, you can make whateveris as hard as he can

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Speaker 4: make whatever.

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Speaker 1: I get it, but it sounds bad. It just sounds

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Speaker 1: bad because he's like well, where's the honor in that?

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Speaker 1: And now blah blah blah, dude, and we say it

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Speaker 1: on this show all the time. Sports has a short

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Speaker 1: menu wins and losses, and when you don't win enough,

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Speaker 1: guess what, you get fired.

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Speaker 3: So I get it, but Doug is.

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Speaker 1: Trying to like, oh my god, it's so Jane Frank

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Speaker 1: looking up what he's done, and is.

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Speaker 3: That dumb that honor or whatever? Dude? He stopped. Okay,

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Speaker 3: I listen. I get it, Doug. You're a coach.

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Speaker 1: You're a I know you have a radio show, but

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Speaker 1: you're a coach and your team won two games last year.

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Speaker 3: So he's trying to like, well, it's not always about winning.

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Speaker 1: It's about no, no, Doug, I hate to break it

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Speaker 3: It's about winning.

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Speaker 1: And when you win, you can do almost anything, and

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Speaker 1: they will bring you back. They'll bend over back with Kelvin,

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Speaker 1: and when you don't win, guess what they go get

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Speaker 1: somebody else you want.

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Speaker 4: You want to break down why he ain't here, and

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Speaker 4: so because I don't get I didn't hear Doug's full

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Speaker 4: take on it. So no, no, no, I'm but but you

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Speaker 4: from what you're paraphrasing, I Listen, there have been every

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Speaker 4: year you and I we told you this what we do,

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Speaker 4: and anybody who watches sports long enough, you know there's

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Speaker 4: gonna be a scenario where there's a coach who's fire,

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Speaker 4: who was formerly coach of the year or candidate or this,

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Speaker 4: that and the other gets fired.

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Speaker 3: I want to bring this when it comes to us.

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Speaker 1: Okay, this is this is why I'm against your theory

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Speaker 3: And I get the timing. You lose to.

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Speaker 1: UCLA who hadn't led in any game this year, Okay,

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Speaker 1: forget about they had led in any game, and you

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Speaker 1: follow that up with a loss to Northwestern?

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Speaker 3: Are you kidding? Do you know the alumni?

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Speaker 1: They probably froze their accounts the money that they will

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Speaker 3: Like, let's not be silly when you ask why why

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Speaker 1: Why are they because the money will stop when they

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Speaker 3: That's why these things happen.

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Speaker 1: When you ask why would they eat forty nine million

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Speaker 3: He couldn't win it. He couldn't beat any good teams.

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Speaker 3: I think they was four and seventeen or like, no,

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Speaker 1: And this is why I'm against you on or being

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Speaker 4: So my point has always been I have a shot

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Speaker 3: This ain't a shot.

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Speaker 4: Dropping Franklin at four and twenty one at Penn State

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Speaker 3: State is a story franchise.

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Speaker 4: It's okay, like seriously, so that that's not my My

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Speaker 4: chance to get to the AFC Championship compete, you know.

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Speaker 3: And that's what I'm saying. I don't want to get

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Speaker 4: This you are four and twenty one versus hot I

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Speaker 4: can't justify it.

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Speaker 3: When I got to go to these booster luncheon.

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Speaker 4: he's a little nerd.

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Speaker 3: He was doing some math.

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Speaker 4: I present you the notes my son sent me four

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Speaker 4: including a one in eighteen against top ten, big ten teams.

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Speaker 4: That's who you're supposed to be, right. Maybe you can't

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Speaker 4: And how much longer can I be the bridesmaid. If

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Speaker 4: I'm Penn State meeting, I gotta sit there and watch

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Speaker 4: Michigan get another national championship.

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Speaker 3: Couple of season ago.

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Speaker 4: I gotta watch Ohio State get won last season, could

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Speaker 4: potentially get one this year. I gotta watch Indiana look

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Speaker 4: really good this year. You can wear they are.

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Speaker 1: They just had their biggest one in their part franchise

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Speaker 2: You know what.

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Speaker 4: I see Wisconsin pull off some things here there, and

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Speaker 4: I'm like, wait, how what's consent do that? Point being,

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Speaker 4: I don't want to keep watching this if I'm Penn State,

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Speaker 4: and they'll be quite frankly pun intended.

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Speaker 3: Twelve years is a long time ties.

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Speaker 4: This ain't the nineteen sixties, seventies, eighties, nineties, even I'll

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Speaker 3: You don't even know what you're doing out there. They're like, coach,

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Speaker 3: We got you. This is what you're gonna do. Hey, Hey,

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Speaker 3: hey bo Sam Begga, don't worrybot you know whoever.

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Speaker 4: This ain't that, This is twenty twenties, information, social media,

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Speaker 4: pressure boosters, press nil now, but twelve years is a

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Speaker 4: good run.

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Speaker 3: And you're asking people for millions of dollars.

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Speaker 1: Okay, that's that's what you're asking these businessmen and boosters

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Speaker 1: and alumni to come up with. Seriously, and if you

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Speaker 3: Out to LA for the game and all just fired

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Speaker 3: the coach, by the way, like the UCLA came in.

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Speaker 4: Hey, by the way, Deshaun Foster looks so bad right

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Speaker 4: now because UCLA looks like a former Look at Rob

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Speaker 3: I mean they looking you have to beat them now.

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Speaker 3: They were laughable.

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Speaker 1: It's amazing where they are there.

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Speaker 3: They're world beaters now all of a sudden.

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Speaker 1: But my point is, you're right, this is not dude,

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Speaker 1: he had twelve years. They didn't hire him last year,

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Speaker 1: Twelve years and the numbers and this is this is

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Speaker 1: the point about being relevant. It could be like John

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh won a Super Bowl. It's been many years now.

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Speaker 1: After a while, Mike McCarthy was in Green Bay.

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Speaker 3: That was nice. You want to.

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Speaker 1: Okay, now, ten years of past and after a while

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Speaker 1: the Packers were relevant the whole time, but they kept

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Speaker 1: losing in those moments. The Ravens keep losing in the

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Speaker 1: big moments. Tom right, Uh, Mike Chamelin, Yeah, Mike Timeline, Mike,

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Speaker 1: Tom that's what we talk about all the time.

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Speaker 3: Oh, why does he want a forty one year old coal?

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Speaker 3: He needs to win.

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Speaker 1: He knows he needs to win. Mike Tomlin ain't fooling nobody,

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Speaker 1: and he needs to win because of the same thing

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Speaker 1: will happen Like James Franklin after a while, that can

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Speaker 1: only buy you a certain amount of time.

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Speaker 3: He won a Super Bowl and lost one. So Tomlin's

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Speaker 3: been there. I get it.

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Speaker 4: But that was years ago. But by the way, they

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Speaker 4: owe that man forty nine million dollars. Life will be good.

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Speaker 4: He'll be fine, dug, he'll be fine, and he'll get

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Speaker 4: another job, will get a job. He's gonna get He'll

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Speaker 4: get his money. He'll be fine. But my gosh, when

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Speaker 4: they wanted Jim Fish Jimbo Fisher out at Texas A

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Speaker 4: and pay him seventy nine six million dollars, to go

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Speaker 4: home and have a seat is crazy. Think about that.

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Speaker 4: They were like seventy six million dollars. You know who

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Speaker 4: else is now noway near the money. But I was

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Speaker 4: looking it up as crazy completely as not college. But

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Speaker 4: the Cleveland Browns are paying five quarterbacks right now. They

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Speaker 4: got to relax too.

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Speaker 3: It's crazy clean.

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Speaker 4: Because they were gonna go into the off season. You

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Speaker 4: know they're gonna draft. The Cleveland Browns is playing way

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Speaker 4: too many quarters.

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Speaker 1: I just don't understand, seriously, And that's why I brought

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Speaker 1: up Dug the start. I get it, he's a coach

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Speaker 3: Get fired and all that. One of eighteen.

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Speaker 1: But come on, Doug, you know sports, okay, And if

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Speaker 1: you lou if you win two games again this year,

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Speaker 1: whatever it was, dude, they're not going to renew your

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Speaker 1: contract and give you a contract extension.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. I don't care.

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Speaker 4: Rogerie, here we go again. I gotta be at the

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Speaker 4: Super Bowl. I gotta be ready.

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Speaker 5: That's exactly what I'm thinking right wow, speaking of Super

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Speaker 5: Bowl out here, like Jon Robbins, we chopped it up

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Speaker 5: with Bjon Robinson at the Super Bowl he's just a

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Speaker 5: friend of the sixty something yards run.

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Speaker 3: I'll throw hands if I have to.

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Speaker 5: If and when we got to fight in the super Bowl, Yeah,

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Speaker 5: I'm taking Iowa Sam because I feel like we're good friends.

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Speaker 5: We get talk it out, but the you two got

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Speaker 5: to scrap with whoever else is there.

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Speaker 3: Me and Sam will act like we're fighting. Will be

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Speaker 3: off to the side, just talking about where we.

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Speaker 5: Got Well, let me ask you you and and then

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Speaker 5: Dub young man, who are you fighting?

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Speaker 3: Get out of that's Jay. Steve goes hiking every weekend.

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Speaker 1: How disappointing are you and watching show?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you had one, does not know to extra dip

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Speaker 1: This year, he's one hundred almost one hundred points lower

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Speaker 3: So SGA was.

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Speaker 5: former Laker, former Rocket, former Thunder, former Jazz, former Nugget,

441
00:20:23,880 --> 00:20:27,640
Speaker 5: former Clipper, former former Oh we don't have all day?

442
00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:31,760
Speaker 5: My god, I signed a one year VET minimum deal

443
00:20:31,880 --> 00:20:36,439
Speaker 5: to join the Sacramento Kings and finish thirteenth in the

444
00:20:36,520 --> 00:20:42,440
Speaker 5: Western Conference. Rob, what's up with guys like Russ and others?

445
00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:44,560
Speaker 5: We just can't seem to hang it up.

446
00:20:45,280 --> 00:20:49,600
Speaker 1: It's just they're selfish and they can't let it go,

447
00:20:49,760 --> 00:20:52,280
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like seriously, because not only

448
00:20:52,320 --> 00:20:54,560
Speaker 1: are they just they're taking up a roster spot somebody

449
00:20:54,560 --> 00:20:57,399
Speaker 1: else could probably play. They're not going to get anything

450
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Speaker 1: from it. Russ isn't gonna win a championship, which he's

451
00:21:00,520 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 1: never won.

452
00:21:01,080 --> 00:21:01,760
Speaker 3: And I get it.

453
00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:04,119
Speaker 1: He just wants to be on the bus, wants to

454
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Speaker 1: be on the team, you know, wants to still be

455
00:21:06,840 --> 00:21:10,320
Speaker 1: relevant where they're still gonna talk about Russ. And he

456
00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,840
Speaker 1: made a shot or a basket or steal and look

457
00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 1: how much he plays with energy or whatever.

458
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Speaker 3: And a lot of these guys can't let it go.

459
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Speaker 3: I'm just I can't understand and and and.

460
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Speaker 1: Sga, you know, was he talking about Lebron, Like, seriously,

461
00:21:25,880 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to be playing till I'm in my forties.

462
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:30,840
Speaker 1: I got kids in time. I want to spend with

463
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Speaker 1: my kids and all that. And I think that is

464
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Speaker 1: a little bit of it. Where Lebron, you've been around

465
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Speaker 1: for a long time. I don't know what else there is.

466
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Speaker 1: You know what I mean that you're chasing even if

467
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,240
Speaker 1: you win, You're not passing Michael Jordan. You got I

468
00:21:45,280 --> 00:21:48,320
Speaker 1: hate to break it to you. You're the f FOTE

469
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:52,480
Speaker 1: Finals failure of all time. You got more losses, you know,

470
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Speaker 1: than any other former MVP.

471
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Speaker 4: There's a fact that the fun votes the Tom Brady

472
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Speaker 4: the lowloat.

473
00:22:03,520 --> 00:22:06,919
Speaker 3: Man. I'm jumping off your boat. I'm just saying and go.

474
00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,680
Speaker 3: That's it. I couldn't disagree more with you, selfish. Don't

475
00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,920
Speaker 3: forget the massault, Kevin Durant, that's right, the most sensitive

476
00:22:13,960 --> 00:22:15,640
Speaker 3: of all time. The missault. Very nice.

477
00:22:15,720 --> 00:22:17,679
Speaker 4: Well, I'm listening about to do whatever your OD is

478
00:22:17,720 --> 00:22:19,560
Speaker 4: right now. Let me figure out how ohe for you

479
00:22:20,480 --> 00:22:23,400
Speaker 4: Look at me. I'm the boat, you are the boat.

480
00:22:23,640 --> 00:22:24,400
Speaker 4: I am not.

481
00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:25,800
Speaker 3: Buying anything you selling right now.

482
00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:28,359
Speaker 4: This is this. I am not you at ross right now.

483
00:22:28,680 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 4: I'm not buying that deal. You love your career, correct

484
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,200
Speaker 4: me if I'm wrong. Yes, but I'm not going to

485
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Speaker 4: be here forever.

486
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:40,560
Speaker 3: You already are you and now you might not be,

487
00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:44,280
Speaker 3: but you're not. I'm not Bob Bryan and those guys.

488
00:22:44,359 --> 00:22:45,520
Speaker 3: So that's where I was going.

489
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Speaker 1: Who eighty years those dudes, I'm serious, Like, no, I

490
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Speaker 1: know you're right, we've seen it if you went out

491
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Speaker 1: the guys nose.

492
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Speaker 3: Guys are eighty years old. I'm not saying you're old.

493
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Speaker 4: What I'm saying is you're in a career where you

494
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Speaker 4: already had it for you know, however long forty years,

495
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Speaker 4: almost forty years, you could have it if you chose

496
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Speaker 4: to another ten fifteen.

497
00:23:03,200 --> 00:23:03,679
Speaker 3: We see it.

498
00:23:03,680 --> 00:23:05,520
Speaker 4: We talk about the guys and gals that we see.

499
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:09,720
Speaker 4: Sports is not that you come in at twenty twenty one,

500
00:23:09,840 --> 00:23:12,760
Speaker 4: two three, and you might get four or five or

501
00:23:12,800 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 4: in some cases ten years fifteen, right, And so this

502
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:18,959
Speaker 4: is something that they know is going to end. It

503
00:23:19,000 --> 00:23:21,520
Speaker 4: has an expiration date, and they want to enjoy it

504
00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:24,320
Speaker 4: as long as possible because at the end of the year,

505
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Speaker 4: probably for us or Chris Paul and these guys, that

506
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Speaker 4: is it for the rest of your life. Well, look,

507
00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,440
Speaker 4: they don't have the luxury of us getting to run

508
00:23:31,440 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 4: our mouths for another thirty forty years.

509
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Speaker 1: You know, if we chose to look at where Chris

510
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Speaker 1: Paul is again, like he's been on fifteen teams, like

511
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Speaker 1: like seriously, what possibly? I start to question, do you

512
00:23:44,280 --> 00:23:45,680
Speaker 1: want to be around your family?

513
00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:47,320
Speaker 3: Do you love your wife?

514
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Speaker 4: I think it's and I'm gonna tell you because it

515
00:23:49,760 --> 00:23:50,960
Speaker 4: ain't the money trust.

516
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Speaker 1: And it ain't the money because they don't make any money,

517
00:23:53,400 --> 00:23:54,760
Speaker 1: you know, like the veterans minimum.

518
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Speaker 3: I'm not making their run.

519
00:23:56,000 --> 00:23:59,040
Speaker 4: I think their spouses came into this, especially the guys

520
00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,520
Speaker 4: that were naming your name it or Russ. Russ has

521
00:24:01,560 --> 00:24:03,720
Speaker 4: been with his lady, his wife now four years. They

522
00:24:03,720 --> 00:24:06,480
Speaker 4: both for at UCLA. Chris Paul been with her for years.

523
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:09,919
Speaker 4: Get it, Lebron, we know their story. My point is

524
00:24:10,200 --> 00:24:13,159
Speaker 4: there has been a sign on I know what this is.

525
00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:15,560
Speaker 4: I know I has signed up for. Lebron always talks

526
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Speaker 4: about how much he owes her on the back end,

527
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:20,560
Speaker 4: Savannah and the children, because they had to sacrifice so

528
00:24:20,600 --> 00:24:22,439
Speaker 4: much for me to go do this thing that I

529
00:24:22,440 --> 00:24:23,919
Speaker 4: believe I was here for and I'm great for and

530
00:24:23,960 --> 00:24:24,240
Speaker 4: they are.

531
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Speaker 3: Tom Brady did it for forty five Tom Brady.

532
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,680
Speaker 4: Tom Brady came Tom Brady, Monny came in later.

533
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Speaker 3: With the wife. No gods I name kind of they've

534
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Speaker 3: been with No.

535
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Speaker 1: But also he also got to the point where he

536
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Speaker 1: missed training camp.

537
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Speaker 3: Do you know what I mean? Because he's overstayed Tom in.

538
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Speaker 4: My opinion, and again I wasn't sitting in the you know,

539
00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,680
Speaker 4: at the house when they're having these conversations. I think

540
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Speaker 4: one of the differences is she was very vocal about, Hey, man,

541
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Speaker 4: this's gotta be it.

542
00:24:52,440 --> 00:24:55,120
Speaker 3: Hey, this needs to be it. Hey we done. Hey,

543
00:24:55,160 --> 00:24:55,879
Speaker 3: what about your family?

544
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Speaker 4: What I assume to be with the Chris Pauls and

545
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Speaker 4: Wes Rustbrook and I kind of know some people you know,

546
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:06,280
Speaker 4: like you know, they're very much all in the whole family, brothers, family,

547
00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,200
Speaker 4: everybody's all in on. This was the ride that we've

548
00:25:09,200 --> 00:25:11,720
Speaker 4: all taken because of you. You have kind of been

549
00:25:11,760 --> 00:25:14,800
Speaker 4: the chosen one. You have this amazing opportunity to change

550
00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:16,840
Speaker 4: your life, our lives, better lives, and do something.

551
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Speaker 3: Nobody's not making that kind of money now. It's not

552
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Speaker 3: the money.

553
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Speaker 1: No, And my point is now at some point to

554
00:25:24,000 --> 00:25:27,320
Speaker 1: just be on another team, to just be on the bench,

555
00:25:27,400 --> 00:25:30,040
Speaker 1: to just be mopping up. Why would you want to

556
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Speaker 1: put yourself It would be like it would be like

557
00:25:32,720 --> 00:25:36,400
Speaker 1: me chicking around Fox Sports Radio and I don't know

558
00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:40,760
Speaker 1: Scott saying, do you want to do two midday hours

559
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:41,879
Speaker 1: where nobody's listening?

560
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 3: Do you want to do that? I'm dealing with you

561
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:48,280
Speaker 3: right now. What time slot? Rob midnight? I said night?

562
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Speaker 3: Job you? No, I didn't mean.

563
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Speaker 2: He didn't.

564
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Speaker 3: We know who he didn't mean. Men, do you are

565
00:25:56,240 --> 00:25:58,119
Speaker 3: to turn now? Let me roll my sneeze it now

566
00:25:58,119 --> 00:25:59,240
Speaker 3: because I know I'm be scrapping.

567
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Speaker 4: Rob Gee, where'd your head go? Because Robgi No, he

568
00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:08,919
Speaker 4: finna be scrapping. Yes, Finna finna be scrapping. Telling My

569
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,960
Speaker 4: point is, I'm good. I don't want to change spots.

570
00:26:12,040 --> 00:26:15,880
Speaker 3: I'm good. We have rowing is these dudes are doing

571
00:26:15,880 --> 00:26:16,960
Speaker 3: something that me and you were.

572
00:26:17,200 --> 00:26:19,600
Speaker 4: You had the baseball back or stick or whatever y'all

573
00:26:19,680 --> 00:26:22,239
Speaker 4: using in New York back in the day, and I

574
00:26:22,280 --> 00:26:24,479
Speaker 4: had the basketball and I'm shooting hoops or we had

575
00:26:24,480 --> 00:26:26,639
Speaker 4: the tennis racket, whatever it is, and they're getting to

576
00:26:26,680 --> 00:26:28,600
Speaker 4: do something they absolutely love to do.

577
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Speaker 3: That's such a small minority of people get to do.

578
00:26:31,320 --> 00:26:33,480
Speaker 4: You get to be an NBA player four hundred and

579
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Speaker 4: fifty and out of eight billion people on the Earth,

580
00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:39,400
Speaker 4: I think they're gonna milk it. And Chris Paul gets

581
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,480
Speaker 4: to be a leader, gets to be around, gets to

582
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Speaker 4: be that.

583
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Speaker 3: Old vet on the team.

584
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Speaker 1: Those young players are like, dude, can this guy go

585
00:26:45,880 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: sit out?

586
00:26:46,400 --> 00:26:48,560
Speaker 3: So what every team needs? Can you go down?

587
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,520
Speaker 4: We got the first seven eight guys who really are

588
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,119
Speaker 4: gonna play? Eight nine guys, The last three, four or

589
00:26:54,119 --> 00:26:57,119
Speaker 4: five guys ain't playing, and we need some leadership. We

590
00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 4: need some locker room guys. When you know what charn

591
00:26:59,400 --> 00:27:02,960
Speaker 4: Berkeley talk about. He always talks about that he had

592
00:27:02,960 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 4: his vets and how grateful me? I mean my guys.

593
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:07,080
Speaker 4: You talk about people who praise their mentors. He brings

594
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:09,840
Speaker 4: them up every other week. How he didn't know how

595
00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 4: to dress, he didn't know how to do money. He

596
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:12,959
Speaker 4: didn't know about a bankcut, he didn't know about all.

597
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:14,560
Speaker 4: How do I get a house? How do I be

598
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:16,760
Speaker 4: become a professional? You need those You could.

599
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:18,480
Speaker 3: Do all that. They don't need to be on a team.

600
00:27:18,520 --> 00:27:20,680
Speaker 1: They could be an assistant coach, they could be a

601
00:27:21,040 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 1: I would be on the team.

602
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: I have to be on the team.

603
00:27:23,440 --> 00:27:25,720
Speaker 4: So yeah, I just think I think it's overstated. I

604
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,159
Speaker 4: think you're overstating, like these dudes are like third mid

605
00:27:29,320 --> 00:27:32,119
Speaker 4: thirties or you know, thirty six, or they'll have the

606
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:33,000
Speaker 4: rest of their lives.

607
00:27:33,240 --> 00:27:36,520
Speaker 1: But they played a long time, is my point, Like

608
00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:40,680
Speaker 1: there's a shelf life. Sometimes somebody wants me. Sometimes it's

609
00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:43,359
Speaker 1: great to walk away on that kind of level, like

610
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: just to be on yet another team. Here's the last

611
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: one I'm gonna bring. Yeah, there are kids in this

612
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:51,919
Speaker 1: country who don't know how great Vince Carter was.

613
00:27:52,680 --> 00:27:54,440
Speaker 3: Okay, look at his stats.

614
00:27:54,840 --> 00:27:58,880
Speaker 1: He played so long, all of his stats numbers have dropped,

615
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,159
Speaker 1: and now a lot of people woul't even consider it.

616
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,800
Speaker 1: Go like he was okay, he had a eight year run,

617
00:28:03,960 --> 00:28:07,119
Speaker 1: he had two separate careers. He had a career as

618
00:28:07,160 --> 00:28:10,119
Speaker 1: a bench player that nobody knows about, and he was

619
00:28:10,160 --> 00:28:13,600
Speaker 1: a really star player. He's stuck around too long. I

620
00:28:13,640 --> 00:28:16,240
Speaker 1: think that's where you could get hurt if you stick around.

621
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Speaker 4: Too I just think there's such a small minority of

622
00:28:18,160 --> 00:28:20,600
Speaker 4: guys who do this, Like who we can even have

623
00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:22,639
Speaker 4: these conversations about that is worth it?

624
00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:22,840
Speaker 6: Man?

625
00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:24,960
Speaker 4: If I get to make hey, I make two three

626
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,200
Speaker 4: four million dollars, which again in money really ain't the

627
00:28:27,200 --> 00:28:29,320
Speaker 4: issue at that point for some of these guys. And

628
00:28:29,359 --> 00:28:31,240
Speaker 4: I get to do the thing I love, I just

629
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:32,199
Speaker 4: think why not?

630
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,880
Speaker 3: Why not? And the most important, I think their families

631
00:28:35,000 --> 00:28:35,719
Speaker 3: know what it is.

632
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:35,879
Speaker 1: You.

633
00:28:36,760 --> 00:28:39,720
Speaker 4: Savannah knows Lebron Russell Westby the wife for years, Chris

634
00:28:39,720 --> 00:28:41,160
Speaker 4: probably the White for a year. They kind of know,

635
00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 4: the fans all in. Tom Brady's wife knew too, and

636
00:28:44,240 --> 00:28:46,560
Speaker 4: she bound he went to fifty two years old and

637
00:28:46,600 --> 00:28:48,280
Speaker 4: she told him, hey, brouh, this is it.

638
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: No why, but she knew they were all living off

639
00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:53,280
Speaker 1: for tom Brady and TV twelve and all that.

640
00:28:53,400 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 3: He told him.

641
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,320
Speaker 4: She gave the baby, he gave the aultimatum, he bro,

642
00:28:59,080 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 4: I'm just telling you