1 00:00:24,200 --> 00:00:26,880 Speaker 1: Coming to you live from the Cross Country Mortgage Campus 2 00:00:26,880 --> 00:00:30,440 Speaker 1: in Barrio, Ohio. This is Cleveland Browns Day, brought to 3 00:00:30,480 --> 00:00:33,519 Speaker 1: you by Bally Bett coming soon to Ohio on eight 4 00:00:33,560 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 1: fifty ESPN Cleveland. Here are your hosts, Bowl Bishop and 5 00:00:37,880 --> 00:00:42,920 Speaker 1: Nathan Zegura. 6 00:00:44,040 --> 00:00:46,400 Speaker 2: Oh hey, let's do it live on a Friday edition 7 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:51,000 Speaker 2: of Cleveland Brown's Daily. Merely bow the great ze, everybody. 8 00:00:51,000 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 2: They're all here, we're reported. You're going to Virginia tomorrow, 9 00:00:54,480 --> 00:00:58,280 Speaker 2: West Virginia tomorrow. Gibbe's already left. He's out doing reconnaissance, 10 00:00:58,680 --> 00:00:59,840 Speaker 2: making thinks sure thunder a. 11 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:01,960 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's got He's gonna tell Monday at one to 12 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:03,880 Speaker 3: get the lines in. And so he's like, I got 13 00:01:03,880 --> 00:01:04,720 Speaker 3: I better get out there. 14 00:01:04,840 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 2: Get plenty of lead day at one, plenty of lead 15 00:01:08,720 --> 00:01:10,880 Speaker 2: time to get there and make sure. Yeah check, all 16 00:01:10,880 --> 00:01:16,080 Speaker 2: those Stevie's are in charge. Our pet's heads are falling 17 00:01:16,080 --> 00:01:18,320 Speaker 2: off all of these things. Scarlet's over there, he's got 18 00:01:18,400 --> 00:01:21,800 Speaker 2: helmets and footballs. He's chasing around. He's getting a real 19 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,240 Speaker 2: feel for him. It's go time here a little bit, 20 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:24,640 Speaker 2: my friend. 21 00:01:24,800 --> 00:01:27,959 Speaker 3: Oh, it's very much so go time. It's exciting. This 22 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,240 Speaker 3: is what you know you I was down in the cafe, 23 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 3: ran at a bunch of the players. Yep, good to 24 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,080 Speaker 3: see everybody back, and you know they're ready to go. 25 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 3: I think everybody's kind of looking forward to getting to 26 00:01:38,120 --> 00:01:40,680 Speaker 3: the Greenbrier, getting some of the paces in, playing a 27 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:44,480 Speaker 3: little golf, bonding and getting ready. You know what's crazy 28 00:01:44,560 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 3: is we are now thirteen days away from the preseason opener. 29 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 3: Get your head around that. Yeah, the hoff will be 30 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:56,080 Speaker 3: inducted in fifteen days. 31 00:01:56,280 --> 00:01:58,240 Speaker 2: That it's easier for me to wrap my head around 32 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:00,240 Speaker 2: that than it is that you're going to have a 33 00:02:00,280 --> 00:02:04,520 Speaker 2: practice tomorrow down in West Virginia. Because at least that's August, 34 00:02:05,200 --> 00:02:08,400 Speaker 2: and that seems like, okay, Hall of Fame game, that's August, 35 00:02:08,480 --> 00:02:12,000 Speaker 2: let's go this like July twenty two. 36 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 1: Go. 37 00:02:13,840 --> 00:02:15,720 Speaker 2: Is a hard thing for me to wrap my head around. 38 00:02:16,160 --> 00:02:18,639 Speaker 2: But it's here, and it's it's gonna be an exciting thing. 39 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,400 Speaker 2: And this team will fly tomorrow down there and then 40 00:02:22,440 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 2: practice in the afternoon. That is a schedule, correct. 41 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 3: You have got that? You are correct sir? Yes? 42 00:02:29,440 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: Was that is that Phil Hartman doing? Ed McMahon, yes? Yes, 43 00:02:35,000 --> 00:02:37,720 Speaker 2: and then car was Carson? Yeah? You and I just 44 00:02:37,760 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 2: so dated ourselves. 45 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,720 Speaker 3: That's great, that's fine. Yeah, who knows who who? The 46 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 3: Carsons are never watched that. I never watched that. That 47 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:45,800 Speaker 3: was never a live thing for me anyway. 48 00:02:45,840 --> 00:02:49,040 Speaker 2: So you know how, I you know how, I will 49 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,560 Speaker 2: tongue in cheek but kind of seriously tease my dad 50 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 2: that he's part of the worst generation in American history, 51 00:02:55,160 --> 00:02:58,120 Speaker 2: that they're you know, him and Pedro, that they they 52 00:02:58,160 --> 00:03:01,880 Speaker 2: came from the greatest generation in American history. Yeah, well, 53 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:03,919 Speaker 2: it's serious to me. I think he thinks I'm joking. 54 00:03:03,919 --> 00:03:05,400 Speaker 2: It really upsets him. So I like to do it 55 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,360 Speaker 2: a lot. Yeah, but I was like you, I mean, 56 00:03:07,320 --> 00:03:09,000 Speaker 2: to be quite honestly, what did you do like Grandpa 57 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,320 Speaker 2: stormed the beaches of Normandy? Would you do with your life? 58 00:03:11,320 --> 00:03:13,120 Speaker 2: What a waste? And I'll say that to him. He's 59 00:03:13,120 --> 00:03:15,160 Speaker 2: approaching seventy five and he gets annoyed with it, But 60 00:03:15,200 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: it's fun for me. I have another example of that. 61 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 2: So one of the you collected the sports cards as 62 00:03:24,480 --> 00:03:27,160 Speaker 2: a kid, correct, you had the cards, had them. I 63 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,960 Speaker 2: had a binder of football, basketball, and baseball cards that 64 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,360 Speaker 2: I've had my whole life. There were probably another fifteen 65 00:03:35,440 --> 00:03:38,600 Speaker 2: or twenty cards in hard cases that were considered like 66 00:03:39,120 --> 00:03:42,240 Speaker 2: these are the good ones. And then boxes upon boxes 67 00:03:42,240 --> 00:03:44,360 Speaker 2: of cards. Right, this was the way that these are 68 00:03:44,360 --> 00:03:46,040 Speaker 2: the good ones. Like you got to protect these, the 69 00:03:46,120 --> 00:03:49,920 Speaker 2: Ken Griffy junior rookie cards, the last Jordan upper Deck 70 00:03:50,040 --> 00:03:53,839 Speaker 2: or whatever, Bo Jackson, a Dion Sanders rookie, these type 71 00:03:53,840 --> 00:03:58,119 Speaker 2: of things. Okay, so there's a Steve Young rookie in there, 72 00:03:58,120 --> 00:04:00,400 Speaker 2: there's a Joe Montana from like eighty one. 73 00:04:00,840 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 3: Rookie's not worth anything. 74 00:04:01,960 --> 00:04:06,920 Speaker 2: Probably not a dime. So NBC got this app on 75 00:04:07,000 --> 00:04:09,920 Speaker 2: his phone. And on this app, you can take a 76 00:04:09,960 --> 00:04:12,720 Speaker 2: picture of the card, it'll scan it and it will 77 00:04:12,720 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 2: tell you a live It's basically a stock x for 78 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,120 Speaker 2: trading cards. Love it, so you can get a live 79 00:04:17,240 --> 00:04:20,000 Speaker 2: market on what your card is worth, what most recent 80 00:04:20,000 --> 00:04:22,000 Speaker 2: ones have been sold for, and what like the high 81 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 2: the low of it. Right, it's a live stock market 82 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 2: of the cards. So he yesterday he was going through 83 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 2: his He's like, wow, Dad, this Luca Prism whatever rookie's 84 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:32,640 Speaker 2: worth two thousand dollars or seven hundred dollars or whatever. 85 00:04:32,680 --> 00:04:36,080 Speaker 2: I'm like, fantastic, Let's sell it. Awesome. Yeah, let's go 86 00:04:36,160 --> 00:04:40,640 Speaker 2: nuts immediately, Let's sell it right away. So he goes, well, Dad, 87 00:04:40,800 --> 00:04:44,000 Speaker 2: you remember when when Grandpa and uncle Kaid came out 88 00:04:44,080 --> 00:04:47,280 Speaker 2: they brought your cards. Let's let's take a look at him. 89 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:48,200 Speaker 3: I don't even want to hear this. 90 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:52,000 Speaker 2: So I had and now I have guarded these cards 91 00:04:52,520 --> 00:04:55,120 Speaker 2: for my whole life. For thirty years, I've guarded them. 92 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:58,239 Speaker 2: I've kept them in boxes and tight and well, don't 93 00:04:58,279 --> 00:05:00,440 Speaker 2: do anything with the cards. I'll deal with the cards. 94 00:05:00,480 --> 00:05:03,760 Speaker 2: I've moved them for years. I've looked at them with reverence. 95 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,880 Speaker 2: There's a Kobe Rookie card in there and all this stuff. Right, 96 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:12,760 Speaker 2: So he starts scanning and he's pretty, he's kind of quiet, 97 00:05:13,480 --> 00:05:19,359 Speaker 2: and he goes, oh, well here, Dad, here's one for this. 98 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:23,360 Speaker 2: One's forty one dollars. And I said, well what about this? 99 00:05:23,760 --> 00:05:25,880 Speaker 2: I go, this is a this is the Mark Jackson 100 00:05:25,920 --> 00:05:28,800 Speaker 2: one with the Menendez twins court side. That's that. That 101 00:05:28,920 --> 00:05:30,800 Speaker 2: was a big card. I said, what about the Billy 102 00:05:30,880 --> 00:05:32,680 Speaker 2: ripkin with the bottom of the bat. That was a 103 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,880 Speaker 2: big card. The wongan Zalez reverse negative, like, that's that's 104 00:05:35,880 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 2: not a big nothing, all worth two bucks. So nothing 105 00:05:41,320 --> 00:05:46,120 Speaker 2: we have is worth anything. It's all nothing. It's awful. 106 00:05:46,200 --> 00:05:48,480 Speaker 2: And in time there was times I know when you 107 00:05:48,560 --> 00:05:50,720 Speaker 2: used to get like the Beckett magazine that there were 108 00:05:50,760 --> 00:05:52,679 Speaker 2: some of those that were several of them were worth 109 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:57,039 Speaker 2: several hundred dollars twenty some years ago. Yes, well they're 110 00:05:57,040 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: all worth nothing. Now they're worth jack. I mean, it's 111 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,279 Speaker 2: probably the whole ection that I have spent all of 112 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:05,159 Speaker 2: this time curating and protecting and keeping in good standing 113 00:06:05,240 --> 00:06:08,239 Speaker 2: for the better part of thirty some years. It's all 114 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 2: worth bupkus nothing. It was awful. He felt bad for me. 115 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:14,560 Speaker 2: He's like dead, I kind of feel bad for you. 116 00:06:14,600 --> 00:06:16,960 Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, I do too, that I've protected them 117 00:06:16,960 --> 00:06:21,280 Speaker 2: this way, which brings me back to our father's generations 118 00:06:21,360 --> 00:06:24,680 Speaker 2: ruling things. This is just simply the fact that none 119 00:06:24,680 --> 00:06:28,200 Speaker 2: of us threw them away because we all heard the stories. 120 00:06:28,440 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 3: Because everybody, everybody who of them, they all liked it. 121 00:06:32,960 --> 00:06:34,640 Speaker 2: Oh I had a Mickey Man, I had that Mickey mantal, 122 00:06:34,720 --> 00:06:37,200 Speaker 2: Rookie card. Okay, you all had it, and now nobody 123 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,120 Speaker 2: has it. So that's why it's worthy thinking. So because 124 00:06:39,160 --> 00:06:41,400 Speaker 2: they told us that story, all of us. I know 125 00:06:41,480 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: Pedro told you that story. No he had of course, 126 00:06:44,800 --> 00:06:48,400 Speaker 2: yeah at all. Oh, your grandmother threw it away. Same 127 00:06:48,440 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 2: story always nanny cleaned it out. It's always the same stories, always, 128 00:06:52,000 --> 00:06:54,920 Speaker 2: and because none of us allowed for that to happen, 129 00:06:55,520 --> 00:06:57,280 Speaker 2: they're not worth anything because we all have them, because 130 00:06:57,279 --> 00:07:00,960 Speaker 2: we all have it. Was awful. 131 00:07:00,960 --> 00:07:03,440 Speaker 3: I knew exactly, like when you started down this path. Yeah, 132 00:07:03,440 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 3: I knew exactly what you were saying. 133 00:07:04,920 --> 00:07:10,080 Speaker 2: Awful. Yeah, just heartbreaking. Yeah. I would have been better off, 134 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 2: Like the Griffy Junior rookie. I should have sold that 135 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 2: when I was sixteen. So that's what I told NBC. 136 00:07:15,600 --> 00:07:17,320 Speaker 2: I'm like, let's sell these suckers now, we'll put it 137 00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:19,080 Speaker 2: in the S and P and forget about it while 138 00:07:19,080 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 2: it's hot, get out of it. 139 00:07:20,600 --> 00:07:24,520 Speaker 3: Agreed. Couldn't agree more. Good, good parenting, good fathering, sad 140 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:27,200 Speaker 3: sad deal. It's ridiculous you would think that would be 141 00:07:27,240 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 3: worth like yeah, I have complete sets, of course. 142 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, yeah, like literally one of the ones that 143 00:07:33,760 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 2: was worth the most. There was some Kevin duckworth All 144 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 2: Star card and I don't even know why it was 145 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,240 Speaker 2: worth like forty bucks. It was worth more than like 146 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:45,360 Speaker 2: a bo Jackson rookie. Yes, it possible makes sense what happened. 147 00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:48,840 Speaker 3: Maybe a small head I don't need to have normally, 148 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: not like Annoy Benjamin. That was the strangest creation. 149 00:07:54,280 --> 00:08:05,280 Speaker 2: Ever, there's not a much Yeah. 150 00:08:01,680 --> 00:08:04,880 Speaker 3: Duckworths had a weird shot too, like well that well 151 00:08:04,880 --> 00:08:07,280 Speaker 3: that was there, but duckworth did like a hitch and 152 00:08:07,320 --> 00:08:08,559 Speaker 3: then like oh yeah with one hand. 153 00:08:08,960 --> 00:08:12,239 Speaker 2: Well that's because you know, at that point, there weren't 154 00:08:12,240 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 2: shot doctors training you how to shoot. You just shot 155 00:08:15,280 --> 00:08:17,120 Speaker 2: how you shot, how you shot. There wasn't it wasn't 156 00:08:17,160 --> 00:08:19,320 Speaker 2: somebody going, well, you got to step into it, or 157 00:08:19,320 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 2: you gotta have this perfect relief like the Curry shot. 158 00:08:21,640 --> 00:08:25,680 Speaker 2: Like now every basketball coach trainer teaches the Curry shot. Yes, 159 00:08:26,440 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 2: but in those days you just like bird shot. Here 160 00:08:28,880 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 2: it was two handed over his head. Yeah, however you 161 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 2: made it boom bottom. 162 00:08:35,679 --> 00:08:37,360 Speaker 3: Had to shoot like that. I had no ability to 163 00:08:37,400 --> 00:08:40,640 Speaker 3: control a throw from the back of. 164 00:08:42,480 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 2: It's crazy. 165 00:08:43,960 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: My dad shoots like a cross his head like this, 166 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:48,240 Speaker 3: and he says because he has a stigmatism, so then 167 00:08:48,280 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 3: he's he could shoot it, he could shoot it. 168 00:08:51,040 --> 00:08:54,000 Speaker 2: He can't. You into this open championship so far. 169 00:08:54,360 --> 00:08:57,320 Speaker 3: Of course, Brian Harmon is like running away with it. 170 00:08:57,360 --> 00:08:59,200 Speaker 2: I mean he speeth made a little bit of moves 171 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:03,480 Speaker 2: this afternoon, which was pretty fun. Five when I. 172 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 3: Left at three. Oh shoot, So Harmon's at ten, Fleetwood's 173 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:12,480 Speaker 3: at five, Lee and Sharma are at three. Cam Young 174 00:09:12,640 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: is at three on ten, so he's four under today. 175 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:16,440 Speaker 3: So cam Young's making a little bit of a move. 176 00:09:17,160 --> 00:09:19,679 Speaker 3: Speith is three under today, wonder, but he did get 177 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:21,680 Speaker 3: He was at five, like for eight. 178 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 2: I want to say, that's where I left him. He 179 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:24,760 Speaker 2: was at fun. 180 00:09:24,800 --> 00:09:27,440 Speaker 3: Harmon's ten under, so he's five shots clear of second, 181 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:31,360 Speaker 3: seven shots clear of third, and he shot a sixty 182 00:09:31,400 --> 00:09:33,840 Speaker 3: five six under today without a bogie? 183 00:09:33,960 --> 00:09:35,439 Speaker 2: Is he too? Is that too big to fail? 184 00:09:36,080 --> 00:09:41,600 Speaker 3: No? No, without weather, No, because that's just he comes 185 00:09:41,640 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 3: out one day and shoots a let's say, on the 186 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 3: next round he goes out and he shoots a seventy one, 187 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 3: so he stays at ten, and Fleetwood, who's at five, 188 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: finishes at five and then shoots a sixty eight and 189 00:09:52,440 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 3: all of a sudden he's at eight. And then it's 190 00:09:55,000 --> 00:09:58,839 Speaker 3: but I mean if he continues that, Yeah, if he 191 00:09:58,880 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 3: goes under bar again yet pretty, if nobody gets closer 192 00:10:01,880 --> 00:10:04,360 Speaker 3: than five by the end of this round, I mean 193 00:10:04,480 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 3: he should win. He's in a great position to win 194 00:10:06,440 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 3: the tournament. He's just got to do it, But that's 195 00:10:08,040 --> 00:10:09,840 Speaker 3: also a lot of pressure. Yeah, he's got to know 196 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 3: that Harmon's ever won a major or anything like. 197 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:15,319 Speaker 2: My No, I'm certain that you and I both love 198 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 2: the Open. Did you like John Rahm has not had 199 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:19,560 Speaker 2: a great time. 200 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:20,360 Speaker 3: No. 201 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 2: Did you see his presser yesterday where he was complaining 202 00:10:23,679 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: about the boom mics around Rory He couldn't go at 203 00:10:25,800 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 2: his pace. There were a thousand people everywhere. He's not 204 00:10:28,400 --> 00:10:32,240 Speaker 2: pleased at all. And then he dunked it in bunkers. 205 00:10:32,280 --> 00:10:34,200 Speaker 2: He hit himself with his driver. He let go of 206 00:10:34,200 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 2: his driver on a follow through and it came back 207 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:38,400 Speaker 2: and whacked him in the face. He missed the time. 208 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:40,079 Speaker 3: He missed a putt on eighteen that put him to 209 00:10:40,080 --> 00:10:41,679 Speaker 3: two over, which puts him on the cut line. 210 00:10:41,760 --> 00:10:46,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and there was a audible something we get us 211 00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,880 Speaker 2: thrown off the air on one of those. He was displeased, 212 00:10:48,920 --> 00:10:50,160 Speaker 2: not pleased with that at all. 213 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:52,800 Speaker 3: Do you remember when Tiger did that and in Baker 214 00:10:52,800 --> 00:10:54,880 Speaker 3: Finch was on the column he goes technical term from 215 00:10:54,880 --> 00:10:55,520 Speaker 3: Tiger there. 216 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:58,560 Speaker 2: I do remember. That was a good group, Yeah, a 217 00:10:58,559 --> 00:11:01,920 Speaker 2: good group of people with Baker feature Finch was on that. 218 00:11:01,920 --> 00:11:05,720 Speaker 2: That was Ferdy Ian Baker finch. Wasn't wasn't that all 219 00:11:05,720 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 2: that CBS crew, McCord, McCord, all those cats. Yeah, the 220 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,880 Speaker 2: uh did you see they change the bunker approach? Did 221 00:11:14,920 --> 00:11:17,960 Speaker 2: you hear this story? So typically for the open they 222 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,000 Speaker 2: have the bunker's flat level levels to the front, so 223 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:23,760 Speaker 2: it rolls to the front, right. So apparently they deemed 224 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:28,400 Speaker 2: it too hard yesterday, so they raked them up one 225 00:11:28,520 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 2: rung on every bunker. So now instead of them rolling 226 00:11:31,240 --> 00:11:36,000 Speaker 2: straight to the face and stopping, they're rolling back, which 227 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 2: I thought was nonsense, Like the bunkers are don't hit 228 00:11:38,120 --> 00:11:43,200 Speaker 2: into the bunker, that's the reason they are they What 229 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,679 Speaker 2: is he doing with all these helmets, scarlet, massive calves. 230 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:49,720 Speaker 2: It's all the sauntering. 231 00:11:50,080 --> 00:11:52,880 Speaker 3: Yeah, you can't. You can't saunter like that with. 232 00:11:52,960 --> 00:11:56,440 Speaker 2: No there's a weight, there's a weight to it, all right. 233 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,440 Speaker 2: Gibby wants to know the five biggest questions as you 234 00:11:58,440 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 2: head into training camp. Number one. Number one. 235 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: Number one, it's just does Deshaun Watson continue to look 236 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:13,880 Speaker 3: like we have seen him look going forward? 237 00:12:14,720 --> 00:12:15,600 Speaker 2: That's one through five. 238 00:12:16,040 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: It's in terms of importance, yes, but it is number 239 00:12:19,240 --> 00:12:22,240 Speaker 3: one in the second places of this all right. Number 240 00:12:22,240 --> 00:12:28,160 Speaker 3: two number two there it is, yes, good job. Can 241 00:12:28,280 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 3: Jerome Ford lock up that number two spot? Or do 242 00:12:32,200 --> 00:12:34,400 Speaker 3: the Browns need to add a veteran and maybe they'd 243 00:12:34,440 --> 00:12:35,839 Speaker 3: have a veteran even if he does lock up the 244 00:12:35,920 --> 00:12:39,880 Speaker 3: number two spot into that running backroom? Number three, number three, 245 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:45,800 Speaker 3: do we add another defensive tackle of note? I think 246 00:12:45,800 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: that's a big question. Do we feel like we need. 247 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 1: To Number four? 248 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:56,880 Speaker 3: Did anything happen while everybody was gone? 249 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:57,240 Speaker 2: Like? 250 00:12:57,800 --> 00:12:59,880 Speaker 3: Is everybody reporting? Okay? 251 00:13:00,400 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: Yes? 252 00:13:00,800 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 3: All of that? Number five and number five? How are 253 00:13:08,160 --> 00:13:11,199 Speaker 3: and I would so I'm gonna tie end the linebacking 254 00:13:11,240 --> 00:13:12,680 Speaker 3: room into that. We have the four guys who are 255 00:13:12,679 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 3: coming back from entries last You're like, are we all 256 00:13:14,559 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 3: ready to go? And then number five for me is 257 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: going to be You know, what does this defense look 258 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:24,959 Speaker 3: like under Jim Schwartz? Do we see some of those 259 00:13:24,960 --> 00:13:27,160 Speaker 3: five man fronts he was talking about? When do we 260 00:13:27,160 --> 00:13:30,480 Speaker 3: start to see that kind of stuff? Defensive identity, defensive 261 00:13:30,480 --> 00:13:33,280 Speaker 3: identity schematics, all of them. 262 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:37,520 Speaker 2: Do you think give me a scouting report on Gibbe 263 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:40,280 Speaker 2: at the Greenbrier? What are you looking at? What are 264 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 2: we looking at there? 265 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 3: I don't know what we're looking at there? To be 266 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,120 Speaker 3: honest with you, because I think Gibbe is going to 267 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:53,080 Speaker 3: find the Greenbrier to be like kind of He's going 268 00:13:53,160 --> 00:13:54,280 Speaker 3: to be a little bit of a fish out of 269 00:13:54,280 --> 00:13:55,199 Speaker 3: water at the Green Brier. 270 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:56,880 Speaker 2: Yeah, So. 271 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,920 Speaker 3: I think he is going to defy your recommendations, and 272 00:14:01,960 --> 00:14:03,440 Speaker 3: I think he's actually gonna spend a lot of time 273 00:14:03,520 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 3: in White Sulfur Springs, which could go. 274 00:14:06,559 --> 00:14:08,800 Speaker 2: That's his that's his game. You think is he's going 275 00:14:08,840 --> 00:14:10,800 Speaker 2: to go that way. He's going off campus a lot. 276 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,920 Speaker 3: I do think. So he's already scouted out. He said 277 00:14:12,920 --> 00:14:14,439 Speaker 3: he's got like four or five dive bars he wants 278 00:14:14,480 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: to check out. 279 00:14:18,280 --> 00:14:24,600 Speaker 2: I mean he's I know, he's seemed justified. Yeah, you know, 280 00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:28,160 Speaker 2: Harlan is not that different than White Sulfur Springs. Correct, 281 00:14:28,200 --> 00:14:29,480 Speaker 2: It's not that different. 282 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:31,760 Speaker 3: Right, So I don't know. I think that's what's gonna be. 283 00:14:31,840 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 3: I I think there's gonna be a lot of you know, 284 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 3: lurking lest staying around, a lot of we got to 285 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:40,560 Speaker 3: cover a lot of ground, I would imagine from the 286 00:14:40,600 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 3: hotel to where these fields wherever these fields are, imagine. 287 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 2: Across the street, so you know they're across the street 288 00:14:46,440 --> 00:14:48,360 Speaker 2: and down like you're probably gonna have to shuttle shuttle, 289 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:51,200 Speaker 2: so you're gonna be They have like a Christmas store 290 00:14:51,240 --> 00:14:53,640 Speaker 2: that's opening all year round. That's right by a train station. 291 00:14:53,720 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 2: That's right, I know that street. So it's up from there. 292 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 2: So that's right from a crossroad, from the opening, from 293 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:02,080 Speaker 2: the entrance, and then it's so it's up from there 294 00:15:02,120 --> 00:15:06,480 Speaker 2: and over. It's definitely a shuttle or or a long 295 00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 2: brisk morning walk, whichever you prefer. But you have to 296 00:15:08,960 --> 00:15:11,960 Speaker 2: go across a major thoroughfare a highway in order to 297 00:15:11,960 --> 00:15:12,280 Speaker 2: get there. 298 00:15:12,400 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 3: Yeah. 299 00:15:14,160 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, and its depending on where you are in the 300 00:15:16,280 --> 00:15:19,040 Speaker 2: It's a big property, man, you know that huge So 301 00:15:19,200 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 2: like just getting to and fro. Like when he's like, 302 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:24,040 Speaker 2: I'm gonna camp at the pool, I'm like, it's a 303 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,280 Speaker 2: bit of a hike down there, you know it is, 304 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: And it's all up hill coming back. Be careful about that. 305 00:15:30,480 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: You made a prime rib yesterday? Boy? Did I give 306 00:15:34,640 --> 00:15:34,960 Speaker 2: it to me? 307 00:15:35,400 --> 00:15:35,640 Speaker 3: Boy? 308 00:15:35,680 --> 00:15:35,880 Speaker 1: Did I? 309 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:36,160 Speaker 2: All right? 310 00:15:36,160 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 3: You wanted to run? 311 00:15:37,640 --> 00:15:40,040 Speaker 2: This is how serious I am. Normally I take a pen, 312 00:15:40,240 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 2: give me a I got a pen out. But I'm 313 00:15:41,960 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: going even bigger than that. I'm going straight to notes. 314 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:52,160 Speaker 3: Okay, all right, prime rib, you're ready, I'm ready, We'll 315 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:53,200 Speaker 3: start at the very beginning. 316 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:53,840 Speaker 2: Yep. 317 00:15:55,360 --> 00:15:59,840 Speaker 3: You purchase the prime rib, you ask your butcher to cut, 318 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:02,040 Speaker 3: and so they cut the bones off and then tie 319 00:16:02,040 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 3: them with butcher's twine back onto the roast. 320 00:16:05,880 --> 00:16:07,880 Speaker 2: Cut and tie, butcher. 321 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,040 Speaker 3: Cut and tie it. So this was a three bone, 322 00:16:10,120 --> 00:16:13,000 Speaker 3: eight and a half pound prime rib that I did yesterday. Okay, 323 00:16:13,240 --> 00:16:15,240 Speaker 3: And if people want, if people are asking to see 324 00:16:15,240 --> 00:16:17,560 Speaker 3: how it turned out, I do have a picture so somebody, 325 00:16:17,640 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 3: if people decide they want to see it at some 326 00:16:19,240 --> 00:16:23,600 Speaker 3: point bone in, I will go ahead and and put 327 00:16:23,640 --> 00:16:25,680 Speaker 3: that out there right by the way. Would have been 328 00:16:25,720 --> 00:16:28,120 Speaker 3: great to have paired this with We did not. We 329 00:16:28,120 --> 00:16:30,120 Speaker 3: went nap a cab, which was delicious. We'll talk about 330 00:16:30,120 --> 00:16:31,640 Speaker 3: a second. But you see, our good friend Jade is 331 00:16:31,640 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 3: in Bordeaux right now. Of course she is making me 332 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 3: quite jealous, quite enviously. 333 00:16:36,040 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 2: You think this year we'll finally be able to use 334 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:40,920 Speaker 2: her professional musical stylings on the program. 335 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: That she recorded she's specifically for us, and that we've 336 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:45,040 Speaker 3: asked to have be a part of the program that 337 00:16:45,120 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: we are on. 338 00:16:46,040 --> 00:16:51,080 Speaker 2: Yes, that is very good. Better than yes? Okay, yeah, next, 339 00:16:51,120 --> 00:16:52,080 Speaker 2: all right, purchase it? 340 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,680 Speaker 3: All right, purchase it? Cut it tie it yep, Kim, 341 00:16:55,720 --> 00:16:59,960 Speaker 3: this is the day before, all right, the cooking. Then 342 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:03,520 Speaker 3: and you will take it home, yep. You will rub 343 00:17:03,560 --> 00:17:12,920 Speaker 3: it all over with Penzies English primar rib rub all right, 344 00:17:13,640 --> 00:17:16,199 Speaker 3: and then you're gonna put it in your fridge uncovered, 345 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 3: and you are gonna leave it in there overnight, uncovered, 346 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:27,679 Speaker 3: a right overnight, so it's just in the fridge. That 347 00:17:27,800 --> 00:17:30,360 Speaker 3: helps with a nice crust on it. Then what you're 348 00:17:30,400 --> 00:17:33,520 Speaker 3: gonna do the next day is you're gonna take it out. 349 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 3: You are in a small mixing bowl. You're gonna pour 350 00:17:37,520 --> 00:17:41,600 Speaker 3: a bunch of olive oil in there. You are then 351 00:17:41,760 --> 00:17:48,600 Speaker 3: going to get fresh fresh rosemary and put chop it 352 00:17:48,720 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 3: up fine chopped, friendly chopped fresh rosemary and fresh time 353 00:17:53,040 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 3: you put that into the olive oil. And I'm going like, 354 00:17:55,720 --> 00:18:00,119 Speaker 3: I like rosemary a lot. I'm probably like three to 355 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:05,600 Speaker 3: four full spriggs worth of leaves. And then time you know, 356 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 3: to your liking, so that goes into olive oil. Also, 357 00:18:08,880 --> 00:18:11,320 Speaker 3: you'll sprinkle a little garlic salt, not too much salt, 358 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 3: because you've got a lot of salt in that prime 359 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,600 Speaker 3: riy rub that's already on. There's a little bit of 360 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,479 Speaker 3: salt into this olive oil, and then a bunch of 361 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:19,600 Speaker 3: fresh cracked pepper into this olive oil. 362 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 2: Yep. 363 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:22,399 Speaker 3: The final step to the olive oil, though, is you 364 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,280 Speaker 3: are going to using a garlic press. You're gonna press 365 00:18:27,280 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 3: about ten to twelve cloves of garlic into that. Now 366 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,400 Speaker 3: you're gonna with a with a silicating bread. You're gonna 367 00:18:35,400 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 3: make a paste with that. 368 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:36,880 Speaker 2: That's right. 369 00:18:37,160 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: Then I'm gonna put on my black nitrill gloves that 370 00:18:39,960 --> 00:18:43,000 Speaker 3: you've had me get and I am with my hands 371 00:18:43,440 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 3: going to rub this paste all over the outside of me. 372 00:18:47,560 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 3: And then I'm even gonna slide, so you're underneath the 373 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:56,680 Speaker 3: bone and into that little crevasse until it is completely covered. 374 00:18:56,680 --> 00:18:59,760 Speaker 3: And when it's completely and sconce and when it's completely 375 00:18:59,800 --> 00:19:02,359 Speaker 3: co bow, let's see that I take a picture of it. 376 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:04,439 Speaker 3: I didn't take a picture of it until after I 377 00:19:04,480 --> 00:19:06,440 Speaker 3: had I had seared it. But then when it comes 378 00:19:06,480 --> 00:19:09,600 Speaker 3: out of the first searing portion, it's gonna look like that. 379 00:19:10,200 --> 00:19:12,399 Speaker 3: So in addition, though, the last step before you do 380 00:19:12,440 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 3: your preseeres, you're gonna take a knife and you're gonna 381 00:19:15,080 --> 00:19:18,320 Speaker 3: jab in you know, a few holes on the side, 382 00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 3: one in each of the top kind of there and 383 00:19:22,359 --> 00:19:25,159 Speaker 3: you're gonna then slide in slivers of guck. So take 384 00:19:25,160 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 3: a garlic clove cut in half, and you slide those 385 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:29,960 Speaker 3: in to all of those various spots through the side, 386 00:19:30,080 --> 00:19:32,160 Speaker 3: through the top, and then I even put some whole 387 00:19:32,200 --> 00:19:38,399 Speaker 3: garlic clothes in underneath in that under area again all right, okay, 388 00:19:38,560 --> 00:19:42,920 Speaker 3: then you're gonna set your oven to roast at four 389 00:19:43,000 --> 00:19:45,880 Speaker 3: hundred and seventy five degrees convection on. If you've got 390 00:19:45,880 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: it even better, I do. 391 00:19:47,320 --> 00:19:50,080 Speaker 2: Same oven roast to four seventy five. 392 00:19:50,320 --> 00:19:51,840 Speaker 3: Okay, I just put it in a baking pan. You 393 00:19:51,880 --> 00:19:53,400 Speaker 3: don't even need to put a roasting pan because you're 394 00:19:53,400 --> 00:19:55,320 Speaker 3: not really roasting it, so baking pan's easier to clean. 395 00:19:55,440 --> 00:19:55,640 Speaker 2: Yep. 396 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,359 Speaker 3: So I did it in a baking pan in the 397 00:19:59,400 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 3: oven force seventy five for fifteen minutes, okay, and that 398 00:20:05,160 --> 00:20:07,800 Speaker 3: is going to get you that this kind of red 399 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,000 Speaker 3: cross right there. That's just fifteen minutes in there. 400 00:20:10,440 --> 00:20:10,680 Speaker 2: Yep. 401 00:20:10,760 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 3: So you get that crust, and now it's you. 402 00:20:12,760 --> 00:20:14,960 Speaker 2: Had bone up on that you place this. 403 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:17,399 Speaker 3: So they talked, they always I don't go bone up 404 00:20:17,440 --> 00:20:21,159 Speaker 3: on it because you don't want that top fat cap 405 00:20:21,560 --> 00:20:25,080 Speaker 3: directly on. You want the fat to be dripping down 406 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 3: through and the top the top is actually the fat cap. 407 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:30,960 Speaker 3: So bone down, bone down, yeah, meat, it sits kind 408 00:20:30,960 --> 00:20:32,960 Speaker 3: of on the bone, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, yeah, 409 00:20:34,119 --> 00:20:39,040 Speaker 3: So then you take it out of there, let it 410 00:20:39,119 --> 00:20:40,879 Speaker 3: sit for like five ten minutes because you need to 411 00:20:40,880 --> 00:20:43,919 Speaker 3: cool down again. Yeah, it's for seventy five, right, so, 412 00:20:44,600 --> 00:20:46,639 Speaker 3: and the meat is not for seventy five obviously, No, 413 00:20:46,880 --> 00:20:48,320 Speaker 3: but you know you got the crust on. You let 414 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:50,720 Speaker 3: it cool for you know, however long needs cool. When 415 00:20:50,760 --> 00:20:54,120 Speaker 3: it is done cooling, then you can grab it, put 416 00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 3: it into your big bag. 417 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:56,440 Speaker 2: Yep. 418 00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:00,320 Speaker 3: Any if there's any leftover pace, I just ump it 419 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,600 Speaker 3: right on in there, yep. In the water, I do 420 00:21:04,880 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 3: one hundred and thirty three degrees right, one hundred and 421 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 3: thirty three degrees for six hours, and you can obviously 422 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,600 Speaker 3: you always can go plus like if you had seven hours, 423 00:21:16,600 --> 00:21:18,280 Speaker 3: like yesterday because of the timings, I had to come 424 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:19,960 Speaker 3: in for the show, so I put it in at 425 00:21:20,000 --> 00:21:22,399 Speaker 3: like twelve fifteen. Yeah, and then I didn't take it 426 00:21:22,400 --> 00:21:26,320 Speaker 3: out until seven fifteen. And obviously it's so in there 427 00:21:27,720 --> 00:21:30,120 Speaker 3: six hours. We just fast forward through six hours. 428 00:21:30,640 --> 00:21:31,200 Speaker 2: You take it. 429 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:35,879 Speaker 3: Out, put it out there, pad it dry paper towel 430 00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:39,119 Speaker 3: pad it dry. Save the bag juices because you're going 431 00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 3: to put those into a little into a little pot. 432 00:21:44,880 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 3: I put it like a very small kind of pot. 433 00:21:47,440 --> 00:21:51,840 Speaker 3: Put all those bag juices in salt, pepper, worcestershire, red wine, 434 00:21:52,560 --> 00:21:56,760 Speaker 3: fresh brigs of rosemary, a couple of those frozen garlic clothes. 435 00:21:56,760 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 3: You know, you can drop in there and you want 436 00:21:58,200 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 3: to reduce that all down. Okay, then you add a 437 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,480 Speaker 3: little beef broth to that at the end and you 438 00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,479 Speaker 3: keep you know, whipping it up. That becomes your OJIU, 439 00:22:06,600 --> 00:22:09,760 Speaker 3: which is when I say a treat, it is a treat. 440 00:22:09,800 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: You're not messing around. 441 00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,320 Speaker 3: So your meat's sitting there, that's happening simultaneously with the 442 00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:16,199 Speaker 3: next step. You're actually doing that over the final ten 443 00:22:16,240 --> 00:22:18,680 Speaker 3: minutes meets in there. What I do prior to pulling 444 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,520 Speaker 3: the meat out is I melt a little bit of ghee. 445 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:21,280 Speaker 2: Yep. 446 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,680 Speaker 3: I have now cleaned my silicon brush, so I bring 447 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,639 Speaker 3: it back yep. I will brush the outside with the 448 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 3: melted GI. 449 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: Melted GI. 450 00:22:31,080 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 3: Back into the oven at four seventy five for ten minutes, 451 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:39,760 Speaker 3: and then you get that look that sucker and then 452 00:22:40,320 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 3: you take it and then you cut into it and 453 00:22:43,680 --> 00:22:50,720 Speaker 3: you get that which you saw yesterday, which is basically perfect, 454 00:22:51,359 --> 00:22:54,520 Speaker 3: perfect prime ribbon, prime ribbon. July. I felt it. Oh, 455 00:22:54,520 --> 00:22:56,639 Speaker 3: and there it is on the plate. Saw that as 456 00:22:56,640 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: well yesterday, gorgeous, big oju dunker. So I make myself 457 00:23:01,760 --> 00:23:03,200 Speaker 3: a bowl of ozu and keep it next to me, 458 00:23:03,240 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 3: and I, like you, dunk every bite full, submerged, and 459 00:23:05,880 --> 00:23:06,679 Speaker 3: I'd pour it on. 460 00:23:06,920 --> 00:23:09,159 Speaker 2: No, no, I'm in I'm a dunker. I would do 461 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:13,480 Speaker 2: that the same And then there that's articulous. Notes on this. Yeah, 462 00:23:13,680 --> 00:23:15,720 Speaker 2: I've never made this. You've talked about this for Christmas 463 00:23:15,720 --> 00:23:18,880 Speaker 2: for many many years. I usually do a tender loin. 464 00:23:18,960 --> 00:23:20,919 Speaker 2: I'm gonna I'm going to do I'm gonna do one 465 00:23:20,920 --> 00:23:23,760 Speaker 2: of these between now and then. Yeah, and then then 466 00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,240 Speaker 2: I will do that. But this, the last line I 467 00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:27,840 Speaker 2: wrote here is done. You're welcome. 468 00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 3: That's right. And it's so easy. Yeah, and it is 469 00:23:31,400 --> 00:23:34,360 Speaker 3: so good, that's right. And if people this is how 470 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:36,359 Speaker 3: I like my prime rib This is one thirty three, 471 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:38,320 Speaker 3: but you could go up to one thirty six and 472 00:23:38,320 --> 00:23:40,200 Speaker 3: you'd have no problems. If people want it a little 473 00:23:40,720 --> 00:23:43,600 Speaker 3: less perfect, I always that's their personal choice. 474 00:23:43,600 --> 00:23:45,639 Speaker 2: I always say, though, like that's what prime rib is 475 00:23:45,640 --> 00:23:48,199 Speaker 2: supposed to look like. Yeah, like if you if you 476 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:50,920 Speaker 2: want it, if it's gray, then don't order a prime rib. 477 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:54,320 Speaker 2: Stop it much. It's not a prime rib, right that is? 478 00:23:54,359 --> 00:23:57,480 Speaker 3: That's right, So it it's basically perfect. What I think 479 00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:00,400 Speaker 3: makes it so easy is when you're doing a prime 480 00:24:00,480 --> 00:24:02,320 Speaker 3: rib in the oven, even if you reverse seared and 481 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:06,480 Speaker 3: then do it lo and you are kind of beholden 482 00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,440 Speaker 3: to the way that your oven works, to the way 483 00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:13,240 Speaker 3: that the meat responds to your oven. You could be thinking, oh, 484 00:24:13,280 --> 00:24:14,520 Speaker 3: this is going to be you know, I'd say it's 485 00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,240 Speaker 3: an hour for every you know, pound or whatever whatever, 486 00:24:17,240 --> 00:24:20,600 Speaker 3: blah blah blah. All of a sudden, eight hours later 487 00:24:20,640 --> 00:24:22,880 Speaker 3: it's not ready, or sometimes in four hours and dinner 488 00:24:22,880 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: supposed to beat some thirty. Here you are five thirty with. 489 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:25,080 Speaker 2: Your palme rib. 490 00:24:25,119 --> 00:24:28,440 Speaker 3: God, this is dream this this is what the suvie's 491 00:24:28,640 --> 00:24:31,879 Speaker 3: so then every side is perfectly prepared exactly because you 492 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:35,480 Speaker 3: can time out the final ten minutes whenever you want. Yeah, 493 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:37,879 Speaker 3: you have hour plus or minus. 494 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:38,359 Speaker 2: You know. 495 00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:43,000 Speaker 3: I gotta tell you. The storm came and basically made 496 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:45,200 Speaker 3: it seem like it was night timeout it did. It 497 00:24:45,280 --> 00:24:48,399 Speaker 3: was quite dark, so it was it made sense to 498 00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:51,080 Speaker 3: be having prime rib. Yeah, And then as soon as 499 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:53,159 Speaker 3: we were done eating, the storm was gone and it 500 00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,040 Speaker 3: was light out again at eight thirty, and it probably 501 00:24:55,040 --> 00:24:56,800 Speaker 3: wouldn't have made as much sense to be having prime rib. 502 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:00,600 Speaker 3: So it actually the weather cooperated. It was my ibon 503 00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:02,639 Speaker 3: in July, which I always do for my birthday, and 504 00:25:02,640 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 3: this year I did it and we had Kal's mom 505 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:07,959 Speaker 3: came over. We had a very nice uh Rutherford krutz 506 00:25:08,040 --> 00:25:10,960 Speaker 3: bechstaff for vineyard George's The third twenty seventeen cab, which 507 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 3: was a ninety five pointer, was quite tasty and everybody's 508 00:25:14,000 --> 00:25:16,480 Speaker 3: happy it was. It was just a win, win, win, 509 00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: a lot of wins, a lot of wins. I'm excited 510 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 3: to try this. I'm very excited to try this, and 511 00:25:23,040 --> 00:25:25,080 Speaker 3: it's it feels like a win across the board. And 512 00:25:25,080 --> 00:25:28,360 Speaker 3: it's also the best use of the hof SUV. So 513 00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:29,920 Speaker 3: there's that part of it as well. 514 00:25:30,320 --> 00:25:32,479 Speaker 2: The key to hole all of this is is you 515 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,800 Speaker 2: have got to set aside the time to do it right. Yep, 516 00:25:36,040 --> 00:25:37,439 Speaker 2: You've got to do it that bore right. 517 00:25:37,680 --> 00:25:40,399 Speaker 3: So like yesterday, I went to the gym in the morning, 518 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:44,840 Speaker 3: returned from the gym to give all this attention and 519 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,439 Speaker 3: get it in so that it would be ready at 520 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:48,000 Speaker 3: an appropriate time. But if you're doing it on a 521 00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 3: holiday or a day where your home all day, it's 522 00:25:50,200 --> 00:25:52,919 Speaker 3: very easy, oh for sure, because you can leave. And 523 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,200 Speaker 3: as we were, you noted, Yesterda, we were monitoring it 524 00:25:55,480 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 3: from here. We had the official nanad came in and 525 00:25:57,600 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 3: did a you know, a submersion expection. And so I 526 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:02,720 Speaker 3: would recommend, as you saw the picture when I showed 527 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:05,399 Speaker 3: you when I when I put it in, you know, 528 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 3: prime rib is weighty. You need to get the two 529 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 3: and a half gallon bags, yep, the big boy, the 530 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:12,520 Speaker 3: biggest bags you can get. And then you got to 531 00:26:12,520 --> 00:26:14,679 Speaker 3: get a lot of the ones with the holes in it, 532 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:18,360 Speaker 3: your hold spoons, skimmers, because you need that to make 533 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:22,480 Speaker 3: sure we're we're hanging out down below. But I gotta 534 00:26:22,480 --> 00:26:26,399 Speaker 3: tell you something like if I think that if you 535 00:26:26,400 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 3: would have told young me that in water I could 536 00:26:33,160 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 3: create the perfect prime rib, I would have said you 537 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 3: sound use are are nuts? 538 00:26:39,880 --> 00:26:42,000 Speaker 2: You would have thought you were just as nuts. If 539 00:26:42,000 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: I would have told young you that none of your 540 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,520 Speaker 2: baseball cards are going to be worth anything. 541 00:26:45,280 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 3: Well, that makes me sad, though, this makes me happy ones. 542 00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:50,040 Speaker 2: What we give it and we take it. Yeah, so 543 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:53,320 Speaker 2: we've we've we've acquired. The prime rib we've lost are 544 00:26:53,480 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 2: the innocence of our youth and our hit what we 545 00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:58,760 Speaker 2: thought would be protected hidden treasures. Yeah, of sports cards 546 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:00,000 Speaker 2: because they're not worth anything. 547 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:01,080 Speaker 3: No, it was very sad. 548 00:27:01,200 --> 00:27:03,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, it was. I'm gonna have a lot of fun 549 00:27:03,119 --> 00:27:05,680 Speaker 2: on the program today, first one, last one rather before 550 00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 2: camp starts. Some news around the league, the Commies, this 551 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:10,720 Speaker 2: is a pretty good play out of this new ownership group. 552 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:13,720 Speaker 2: Correct to that in just a second. Plus Dan Graziana, 553 00:27:13,800 --> 00:27:16,600 Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick, Seth Walder with their future NFL team rankings. 554 00:27:16,640 --> 00:27:20,399 Speaker 2: I'll tell you what they're not crazy about us to 555 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 2: be some fun with all of that. Cleveland Browns Daily 556 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:25,000 Speaker 2: brought to you by bally Bet sports running partner Cleveland Browns 557 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 2: coming soon to Ohio on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 558 00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:39,040 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet, Coming 559 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,200 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 560 00:27:48,400 --> 00:27:51,080 Speaker 2: For team of injury lawyers dedicated every client, every day 561 00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:54,040 Speaker 2: called one eight hundred. Elk Ohio Elkinolic's proud partner of 562 00:27:54,080 --> 00:27:56,479 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Browns this one happening right as we were 563 00:27:56,480 --> 00:27:58,280 Speaker 2: going on the air. The Ravens have added running back 564 00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:01,560 Speaker 2: Melvin Gordon on a one year deal for three point one. 565 00:28:03,160 --> 00:28:07,720 Speaker 3: Up to It's surprising to me. I'm not sure the 566 00:28:08,280 --> 00:28:11,720 Speaker 3: thing of Edwards Dobbins have Dobbins and Gus Edwards, Yeah, 567 00:28:11,720 --> 00:28:15,040 Speaker 3: which is a pretty darn good tandem. Maybe they just 568 00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,159 Speaker 3: didn't want to be caught where they were where they've been, 569 00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 3: you know, out of all running backs, and so maybe 570 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:23,639 Speaker 3: he's here to provide a little veteran stewardship. But I 571 00:28:23,680 --> 00:28:26,120 Speaker 3: mean Gus Edwards can do that. Gus Edwards was fine 572 00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:27,120 Speaker 3: once he came back last well. 573 00:28:27,119 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 2: And Dobbins is in year four, isn't he he played 574 00:28:31,400 --> 00:28:32,720 Speaker 2: He's the same age as Fields. 575 00:28:33,040 --> 00:28:35,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, that feels right, so I guess he's in year 576 00:28:35,119 --> 00:28:37,720 Speaker 3: three Dobbins. 577 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:41,040 Speaker 2: Dobbins was a Dobbins, Fields and Chase Young were all 578 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:42,680 Speaker 2: Heisman finalists at the same time. 579 00:28:43,080 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 3: It's unbelievable. 580 00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 2: Yes, he's year three. 581 00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:51,440 Speaker 3: I don't understand it. Just that surprises me that the 582 00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:55,040 Speaker 3: Ravens would do that. Melvin Gordon, by the way, puts 583 00:28:55,040 --> 00:28:57,240 Speaker 3: the ball on the ground a lot, which is why 584 00:28:57,280 --> 00:29:01,320 Speaker 3: he got ushered out of Denver. Last year, they basically 585 00:29:01,360 --> 00:29:03,160 Speaker 3: cut him in the middle of season. So here's what 586 00:29:03,200 --> 00:29:03,480 Speaker 3: you had. 587 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:04,040 Speaker 2: Last year. 588 00:29:04,160 --> 00:29:06,280 Speaker 3: Dobbins played eight games, so he was a rookie in 589 00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:09,640 Speaker 3: twenty twenty missed all of twenty one. Played eight games 590 00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 3: last year, ran for five hundred and twenty yards, two 591 00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,880 Speaker 3: touchdowns five point seven yards of carry, which is pretty 592 00:29:14,920 --> 00:29:20,080 Speaker 3: earn good. They got Gus Edwards as well, and obviously 593 00:29:20,160 --> 00:29:21,760 Speaker 3: Lamar now they're talking about they're going to throw the 594 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 3: ball a lot more and that. I was reading something 595 00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:26,280 Speaker 3: today coming out of Baltimore's at Zay Flowers as the 596 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:31,400 Speaker 3: best receiver on their roster period already. But Gus Edwards 597 00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:34,040 Speaker 3: last year ran for four and thirty three yards, three touchdowns, 598 00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:37,800 Speaker 3: five yards of carry. I mean, Kenyan Drake ran for 599 00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:39,480 Speaker 3: four and eight two. Maybe they just want they just 600 00:29:39,480 --> 00:29:42,480 Speaker 3: feel like we got to have these guys on the ross. 601 00:29:42,760 --> 00:29:44,840 Speaker 2: I'm surprised Todd does with that offense. 602 00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,160 Speaker 3: I mean, my guess is he's gonna spread people out 603 00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 3: a little bit more than we're used to seeing with them, 604 00:29:50,080 --> 00:29:52,200 Speaker 3: Like where does Patrick Ricard? How does he fit into 605 00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:55,920 Speaker 3: their into a Todd Monkin offense that I don't know. 606 00:29:56,320 --> 00:29:58,640 Speaker 2: We never got to see it here. Yeah, never got 607 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,520 Speaker 2: to see Todd's offense here. That was Freddy's offense, which 608 00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:05,320 Speaker 2: was an amalgamation of some parts of Todds but some 609 00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:09,440 Speaker 2: of the other Todds. Yeah, so we never really got 610 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,160 Speaker 2: to see it. We saw it at Georgia where he 611 00:30:11,240 --> 00:30:15,440 Speaker 2: was brilliant, borderline brilliant week in and week out with 612 00:30:15,440 --> 00:30:18,040 Speaker 2: Stetson Bennett. But I am curious to see what he does, 613 00:30:18,680 --> 00:30:20,560 Speaker 2: what his approach will be. I'm sure you're right that 614 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:22,680 Speaker 2: it will be to spread it out, but it's they 615 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,280 Speaker 2: have a glut of backs. They're not Flowers already their 616 00:30:26,280 --> 00:30:28,440 Speaker 2: best receiver. That's good news from the flower standpoint, but 617 00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:31,040 Speaker 2: I don't love that receiving room much. Andrews is great, obviously, 618 00:30:31,160 --> 00:30:34,680 Speaker 2: and but the Yeah, I'm curious to see what all 619 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,960 Speaker 2: that looks like with him there. I have more questions 620 00:30:37,000 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 2: about them. It feels like a lot of people have 621 00:30:38,920 --> 00:30:42,720 Speaker 2: like we we'll talk Robert stamf right, they get rubber 622 00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:45,400 Speaker 2: stamped delete and we were like on the outside looking 623 00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:47,560 Speaker 2: in on all of it. And it's I understand it, 624 00:30:47,640 --> 00:30:50,480 Speaker 2: I get it. I just think like the rosters, I 625 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:52,640 Speaker 2: like our roster better. But maybe that's I don't know. Ma, 626 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:54,080 Speaker 2: that's orange and brown collar glasses. 627 00:30:54,080 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 3: So Melvin Gordon last year throwing eighteen yards, two touchdowns, 628 00:30:56,920 --> 00:30:59,040 Speaker 3: three point five yards of carry, and he fumbled the 629 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:01,640 Speaker 3: ball ten I don't know, but you're pointing about the 630 00:31:01,640 --> 00:31:03,520 Speaker 3: the fumbled five times. As a matter of fact, that's 631 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:06,400 Speaker 3: a lot. He's fumbled at least three times in four 632 00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,040 Speaker 3: straight seasons, four four, three and five. That's a lot 633 00:31:09,200 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 3: of fumbles. So I don't quite get that move, especially 634 00:31:11,920 --> 00:31:13,800 Speaker 3: because I do think that they're a team that is 635 00:31:13,840 --> 00:31:15,160 Speaker 3: going to try to spread it out a little more, 636 00:31:15,160 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 3: try to throw it a little bit more. Put you know, Bateman, Flowers, 637 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:24,200 Speaker 3: Odell out there with Andrews and then Dobbins and Lamar 638 00:31:24,360 --> 00:31:26,480 Speaker 3: and say, okay, how are you going to really deal 639 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:28,760 Speaker 3: with all of this and the space that we create. 640 00:31:29,280 --> 00:31:32,120 Speaker 3: So that's what I think they're gonna do. I don't know. 641 00:31:32,200 --> 00:31:34,880 Speaker 3: I'm with you. I do think it's a change. I 642 00:31:34,880 --> 00:31:36,920 Speaker 3: think part of what made them so effective was the 643 00:31:36,920 --> 00:31:39,160 Speaker 3: offense that they ran. I also think it was part 644 00:31:39,160 --> 00:31:42,960 Speaker 3: of what made them have to operate in a particular 645 00:31:43,080 --> 00:31:46,479 Speaker 3: game script, yes, specific, And I think that one of 646 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:48,800 Speaker 3: the goals obviously, and what they're doing is to make 647 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:51,480 Speaker 3: sure that they don't have to operate in that particular 648 00:31:51,520 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 3: game script, and so can Lamar do that? And if 649 00:31:57,440 --> 00:31:59,520 Speaker 3: the answer is yes, they're going to be very dangerous 650 00:31:59,560 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 3: because if you start spreading people out, you can play 651 00:32:03,520 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 3: man with a spy, or you're going to be in 652 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:10,080 Speaker 3: zone because you can't just turn your back to him 653 00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 3: and run with everybody, and because then he's going to 654 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,280 Speaker 3: kill you out of the pocket. So he could be 655 00:32:15,360 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 3: very dangerous. I mean, Lamar Jackson is for sure eight 656 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 3: points a game. 657 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,760 Speaker 2: Like, yeah, there's no doubt. I actually think that Beckham 658 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:26,000 Speaker 2: going there makes sense for Beckham because what look, Lamar 659 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:29,680 Speaker 2: isn't necessarily like you need to be here exactly here 660 00:32:29,880 --> 00:32:32,600 Speaker 2: at this it's a lot more free. We saw that 661 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 2: with Deshaun last year here where it's going to take something. 662 00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,120 Speaker 2: It took some time for our guys to get used 663 00:32:36,120 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 2: to that. When he play isn't over, he breaks pocket, 664 00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:41,520 Speaker 2: you need to redirect a route. Odell will thrive in 665 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:43,800 Speaker 2: that if him and Lamar can get on the same page. 666 00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:45,520 Speaker 2: It's just been a long time since Odell was great, 667 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:48,680 Speaker 2: but they are there's it feels like there's a lot 668 00:32:48,720 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: more faith in them returning to what they were yeah, 669 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:57,360 Speaker 2: three years ago than it is faith that a healthy 670 00:32:57,760 --> 00:33:01,040 Speaker 2: Deshaun Watson with a full on top I know we 671 00:33:01,080 --> 00:33:04,360 Speaker 2: said it yesterday. Yeah, I get it. This was one 672 00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:10,200 Speaker 2: of the most cunning plays I have seen. Josh Harris's 673 00:33:10,200 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 2: group rubber stamped it's done. They've got the Washington football team. 674 00:33:14,080 --> 00:33:17,240 Speaker 2: Anytime Josh Harris or his group, and they've been the 675 00:33:17,280 --> 00:33:20,959 Speaker 2: known purchaser for months now, two or at least three months, 676 00:33:21,360 --> 00:33:24,600 Speaker 2: anytime that they were talked about or anytime they were 677 00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:27,840 Speaker 2: asked about this purchase, one of the topics that would 678 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:31,640 Speaker 2: come up is the branding of this particular entity, being 679 00:33:31,720 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 2: the Washington football team. And every time that they were 680 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:37,320 Speaker 2: asked this question, Harris would deflect or say we're not 681 00:33:37,360 --> 00:33:39,120 Speaker 2: gonna We're not even there, we're not thinking about that. 682 00:33:39,240 --> 00:33:41,040 Speaker 2: I'd be shocked if there was a name change. We 683 00:33:41,080 --> 00:33:43,360 Speaker 2: had John kime On. I can't remember if you were 684 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 2: on with me or if I was doing it by 685 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,720 Speaker 2: myself that day, but we had John On who covers Washington, 686 00:33:48,160 --> 00:33:50,480 Speaker 2: and we were like, is there anything He's like, no, 687 00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,960 Speaker 2: there's really no momentum to move, you know, from either 688 00:33:52,960 --> 00:33:55,320 Speaker 2: ownership group, there's no momentum to change the name, like, 689 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:57,480 Speaker 2: they'll just stay with what it is. And every time 690 00:33:57,520 --> 00:34:00,760 Speaker 2: you and I would say, my god, make this so 691 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,240 Speaker 2: it's a two s split second. You can wash your 692 00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:08,120 Speaker 2: hands of Dan Snyder entirely with this, immediately become ingratiated 693 00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,440 Speaker 2: with the fan base even more than you already are. Yep. 694 00:34:10,680 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 2: And so what happens yesterday gets rubber stamped, and by 695 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,319 Speaker 2: last night it's already Yeah, we're gonna change the name. 696 00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:20,400 Speaker 3: Yeah, Magic Johnson's out there talking about yeah, so of 697 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 3: course they are. Of course they're going to change a name, 698 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:24,080 Speaker 3: get rid of Major Tuddy. 699 00:34:24,200 --> 00:34:25,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, they're gonna get rid of all of that. 700 00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:26,520 Speaker 3: Red Hogs. 701 00:34:26,640 --> 00:34:30,560 Speaker 2: Let's go red hot. So great, you could do There's 702 00:34:30,560 --> 00:34:32,000 Speaker 2: a lot of ways you could go, but I think 703 00:34:32,040 --> 00:34:35,279 Speaker 2: that I think red Hogs is the best. But yeah, 704 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:37,440 Speaker 2: so they're gonna do that. The other thing, Uh, the 705 00:34:37,560 --> 00:34:42,080 Speaker 2: NFL slapped Snyder with a sixty million dollar fine walking 706 00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,120 Speaker 2: out the door. I will say, for a guy who 707 00:34:45,160 --> 00:34:50,400 Speaker 2: got six billion, sixty million is what the equivalent? It's one? Yeah, 708 00:34:50,480 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 2: so you got a one percent situation there. So for context, 709 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:58,040 Speaker 2: if I if you had six hundred dollars and I 710 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:01,880 Speaker 2: find you six bucks, Yeah, that's where we're at. That's 711 00:35:01,920 --> 00:35:04,399 Speaker 2: where we're at. That's where we're at. But I do 712 00:35:04,440 --> 00:35:07,120 Speaker 2: wonder if there was a because one of the other 713 00:35:07,160 --> 00:35:09,000 Speaker 2: things that was found out with this reporting, and this 714 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:10,760 Speaker 2: was all done at the same time of the sale, 715 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:12,920 Speaker 2: is that not only was he stealing from players, he 716 00:35:12,920 --> 00:35:16,759 Speaker 2: was sealing from other owners. This guy was. It's the 717 00:35:16,800 --> 00:35:19,200 Speaker 2: most derelict ownership of a sports team in the history 718 00:35:19,200 --> 00:35:19,840 Speaker 2: of this country. 719 00:35:20,000 --> 00:35:26,120 Speaker 3: Where else derelict on in many on a thousand levels. 720 00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 3: And yet as the owner he bought in at nine 721 00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:36,200 Speaker 3: hundred million and cashed out after complete incompetence for twenty years. 722 00:35:36,320 --> 00:35:40,040 Speaker 3: Corporate malfeasance on every level, on every level, and cash 723 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:46,520 Speaker 3: out at six billion. Fraud, sexual harassment, just a litany everything, 724 00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:50,880 Speaker 3: everything you could do, and still made four hundred percent. 725 00:35:54,320 --> 00:36:00,600 Speaker 2: One NFL baby to six billion. Yep, Yeah, that's it. 726 00:36:00,920 --> 00:36:03,840 Speaker 2: And they have no stadium situation, and they're poorly branded, 727 00:36:03,840 --> 00:36:06,040 Speaker 2: and they've sucked for twenty five years off of what 728 00:36:06,280 --> 00:36:08,399 Speaker 2: was Someone asked me this morning, they said, how would 729 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:10,400 Speaker 2: you because they were younger kids, they were like, how 730 00:36:10,400 --> 00:36:13,759 Speaker 2: would you describe, like what the Washington Redskins were like 731 00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:15,680 Speaker 2: what it would be the similar thing of this was 732 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:17,400 Speaker 2: it would this be like if if somebody did this 733 00:36:17,400 --> 00:36:19,640 Speaker 2: to the Celtics for twenty five years, And I said, no, 734 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:22,000 Speaker 2: I think what to me, it would be like if 735 00:36:22,000 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 2: somebody because the Washington then Washington Redskins, they weren't the 736 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,960 Speaker 2: forty nine ers, they weren't the Steelers, they weren't the Cowboys, 737 00:36:28,000 --> 00:36:31,160 Speaker 2: they weren't that level. They were wrung below it. I said, 738 00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:33,440 Speaker 2: to me, it kind of felt like if somebody did 739 00:36:33,480 --> 00:36:36,759 Speaker 2: it to the Saint Louis Cardinals, Okay, where they'd always won, 740 00:36:37,120 --> 00:36:39,600 Speaker 2: not at the highest level, but close, and it was 741 00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,520 Speaker 2: a baseball town. Washington was the was a football town record, Yeah, 742 00:36:43,560 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 2: for sure. So that's the one I used. I used 743 00:36:46,600 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 2: the Cardinals Cardinals as my doppelganger. 744 00:36:49,280 --> 00:36:51,120 Speaker 3: I think it's a good Complet's trying to think of 745 00:36:51,160 --> 00:36:57,440 Speaker 3: somebody in the association because they were never even at 746 00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:58,680 Speaker 3: the same heis as the Bulls. 747 00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:02,719 Speaker 2: No, and it wasn't. And also the Bulls were like 748 00:37:02,960 --> 00:37:05,719 Speaker 2: the Bulls are kind of just Jordan. Yeah, there really 749 00:37:05,840 --> 00:37:07,880 Speaker 2: isn't like prior to Jordan. I don't know chicag I 750 00:37:07,880 --> 00:37:10,399 Speaker 2: don't think Chicago's an NBA town after Jordan. I don't 751 00:37:10,400 --> 00:37:12,040 Speaker 2: think they've been an NBA town, like it was basically 752 00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:15,440 Speaker 2: just the Jordan window, you know. I don't know where 753 00:37:15,480 --> 00:37:16,759 Speaker 2: it would be that where it was. Maybe it was 754 00:37:16,760 --> 00:37:19,239 Speaker 2: like Building State or something or something like that. But 755 00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:21,600 Speaker 2: Portland never won it, but Golden State always showed up. 756 00:37:21,960 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 2: He was always known as a great basketball town. Or 757 00:37:24,200 --> 00:37:26,239 Speaker 2: maybe like if the Knicks, if they won more, if 758 00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:28,080 Speaker 2: they want a little more, the. 759 00:37:28,120 --> 00:37:30,200 Speaker 3: Spurs won too much and are too small of the town. 760 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:32,279 Speaker 2: Too small? Yeah, wash, It was a major major is 761 00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:34,719 Speaker 2: a major major market, and they were You could not 762 00:37:34,800 --> 00:37:37,239 Speaker 2: get our nations. You could not get tickets. It's our 763 00:37:37,320 --> 00:37:40,600 Speaker 2: nations back in those days to them at all, all right? 764 00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,600 Speaker 2: Coming up next ESPN's Dan Graziano, our guy, Lewis Riddick 765 00:37:44,600 --> 00:37:46,520 Speaker 2: and Seth Walder. All these guys are kind of our guys. 766 00:37:47,400 --> 00:37:52,000 Speaker 2: They rank futures of all NFL teams. I'm shocked at 767 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:53,799 Speaker 2: where they have us. We will get to that among 768 00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,800 Speaker 2: other things. Coming up next, The Browns Daily brought to 769 00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,080 Speaker 2: my Ball or bet Sports beinning partner your Cleveland Browns 770 00:37:59,120 --> 00:38:01,239 Speaker 2: coming toon to High on eight d esp and Cleveland. 771 00:38:04,160 --> 00:38:07,080 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Beck coming 772 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:10,720 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 773 00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:25,839 Speaker 2: Dan Graziano is our guy. All right, before we get 774 00:38:25,880 --> 00:38:27,400 Speaker 2: into this, have you looked at this yet at all, 775 00:38:27,480 --> 00:38:31,719 Speaker 2: because purposefully you weren't. You're not, No, I have not 776 00:38:31,800 --> 00:38:35,239 Speaker 2: looked me. All right, if you were to do, if 777 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:38,880 Speaker 2: you were to do your top five NFL franchises based 778 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 2: on how they are going to be in twenty three, 779 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,040 Speaker 2: twenty four, and twenty five, and this is the breakdown, 780 00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,760 Speaker 2: just so you're aware. There's five categories that they waited. 781 00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:51,040 Speaker 2: Thirty percent of the weight went to the overall roster, 782 00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:55,080 Speaker 2: twenty percent of the weight went to the quarterback. The 783 00:38:55,239 --> 00:38:58,360 Speaker 2: draft was fifteen percent of the weight, the front office 784 00:38:58,440 --> 00:39:00,880 Speaker 2: was fifteen percent of the weight, and the coaching was 785 00:39:00,960 --> 00:39:03,640 Speaker 2: twenty percent of the weight. So they have coaching the 786 00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:07,200 Speaker 2: same as quarterback, which I think that's not that's disproportionate quarterback. 787 00:39:07,600 --> 00:39:09,640 Speaker 3: And by the way, signific our guy was the coach 788 00:39:09,719 --> 00:39:12,240 Speaker 3: of the year in twenty twenty in the NFL. 789 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 2: You wouldn't know so know it by these rankings. Okay, 790 00:39:15,920 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: all right, so I've led you, so you know we're 791 00:39:17,719 --> 00:39:20,399 Speaker 2: disrespected here, but just throw that out of it. Don't 792 00:39:20,520 --> 00:39:23,000 Speaker 2: go where you think they would put it. How would 793 00:39:23,040 --> 00:39:26,799 Speaker 2: you have the top five in the league the next 794 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:27,279 Speaker 2: three years? 795 00:39:27,760 --> 00:39:29,439 Speaker 3: So I've got I've got eight. 796 00:39:30,320 --> 00:39:30,840 Speaker 2: Give them to me. 797 00:39:31,560 --> 00:39:42,360 Speaker 3: Kansas City, Philly, cincyp the Niners US okay, Jacksonville, Buffalo, 798 00:39:43,480 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 3: and the Chargers. 799 00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,200 Speaker 2: Okay. 800 00:39:47,719 --> 00:39:53,440 Speaker 3: Who would you have won? Kansas City same And the 801 00:39:53,480 --> 00:39:55,440 Speaker 3: reason for that is they have Patrick Mahomes. Yeah, the 802 00:39:55,560 --> 00:39:57,319 Speaker 3: Jets could be I don't know, three years. I don't 803 00:39:57,320 --> 00:39:58,880 Speaker 3: know even get three years out of Rogers. 804 00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,520 Speaker 2: I think it's definitely possible. 805 00:40:01,760 --> 00:40:03,279 Speaker 3: Yeah, so they would be in the mix as well. 806 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I would have Kansas City one as well on 807 00:40:06,560 --> 00:40:11,680 Speaker 2: this list. I would have Cincinnati two on this list, 808 00:40:12,120 --> 00:40:15,600 Speaker 2: and then I would then then it becomes probably Philly third. 809 00:40:16,000 --> 00:40:18,520 Speaker 2: And the only reason that I don't have Philly higher 810 00:40:18,840 --> 00:40:21,560 Speaker 2: is because I think Burrow and Mahomes are more proven 811 00:40:21,640 --> 00:40:24,800 Speaker 2: and better than Hurts. Right, Hurts us to stack it. 812 00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:26,560 Speaker 3: What I'm curious about. 813 00:40:26,560 --> 00:40:27,640 Speaker 2: Their roster's crazy though. 814 00:40:27,800 --> 00:40:29,959 Speaker 3: One thing that's but one thing that is very good. 815 00:40:30,760 --> 00:40:32,880 Speaker 3: And we'll see how that roster is able to maintain. 816 00:40:32,960 --> 00:40:35,920 Speaker 3: Now that Hurts has been paid, Yeah, Kansas City is 817 00:40:35,960 --> 00:40:38,560 Speaker 3: done at Homes, Mahomes already paid. There is going to 818 00:40:38,680 --> 00:40:43,200 Speaker 3: be some type of a seismic shift one way or 819 00:40:43,280 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 3: the other. 820 00:40:44,400 --> 00:40:47,080 Speaker 2: Oh Man, look at all those greens in there. You 821 00:40:47,160 --> 00:40:50,480 Speaker 2: got to keep keep those babies safe. That's your whole operation. 822 00:40:50,680 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 3: And it's almost time to get those greens going again, 823 00:40:52,680 --> 00:40:59,160 Speaker 3: which is crazy since the I don't believe, and and 824 00:40:59,400 --> 00:41:02,040 Speaker 3: I know you a lot more people down there. I 825 00:41:02,239 --> 00:41:05,640 Speaker 3: find it hard to believe that they are going to 826 00:41:05,719 --> 00:41:10,840 Speaker 3: be able to keep Burrow, Chase and Ti Higgins. I 827 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 3: think it's a given that they will be keeping Joe 828 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:15,839 Speaker 3: Burrow and Jamar Chase. I don't believe they'll be able 829 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:16,439 Speaker 3: to keep all three. 830 00:41:16,880 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 2: And and also like Logan Wilson, like so then where 831 00:41:20,040 --> 00:41:20,279 Speaker 2: it does that? 832 00:41:20,360 --> 00:41:23,080 Speaker 3: What do they actually they look like because they're going 833 00:41:23,120 --> 00:41:26,759 Speaker 3: to be paying justin Jefferson's about to set that market 834 00:41:26,760 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 3: and Jamar Chase is going to want to beat that 835 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:30,959 Speaker 3: when he comes up, and Burrow is like, there aren't 836 00:41:31,160 --> 00:41:34,320 Speaker 3: people don't take the notion of a hometown discount. I 837 00:41:34,360 --> 00:41:37,080 Speaker 3: mean maybe to some extent you can do that. 838 00:41:38,440 --> 00:41:41,680 Speaker 2: Yeah, Brady did that, the man that they were the 839 00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:45,200 Speaker 2: highest paid. Yes, Brady did some discounts in New England 840 00:41:45,360 --> 00:41:45,920 Speaker 2: until the end. 841 00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:49,640 Speaker 3: And it felt like Brady at that point was so 842 00:41:49,880 --> 00:41:51,560 Speaker 3: established as being the goat that he had so much 843 00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,440 Speaker 3: in marketing and yeah, and they did a lot of 844 00:41:56,320 --> 00:41:58,680 Speaker 3: his cat number was never that bad, but they did 845 00:41:58,719 --> 00:42:00,200 Speaker 3: a lot of creative he was I. 846 00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:02,040 Speaker 2: Think you'd taken care of very well compensated. 847 00:42:02,080 --> 00:42:04,719 Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, So I just don't know what that team 848 00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 3: is going to look like. Actually in a couple of years. 849 00:42:07,360 --> 00:42:09,719 Speaker 2: I think one of the most amazing things that I mean, 850 00:42:09,840 --> 00:42:13,719 Speaker 2: Kansas City did this before they paid Mahomes, and then 851 00:42:13,719 --> 00:42:15,640 Speaker 2: they did it after they paid Mahomes. They did it 852 00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:18,160 Speaker 2: while they had Tyreek Hill. They did it the year 853 00:42:18,200 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 2: they traded Tyreek Hill. Last year for them should have 854 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:24,040 Speaker 2: been kind of a bill a reset. Yeah, it was 855 00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,080 Speaker 2: a reset. It was now we have to pay people. 856 00:42:26,160 --> 00:42:28,719 Speaker 2: This is what this team looks like now. No Tyron Matthew, No, 857 00:42:28,800 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 2: Tyreek Hill. 858 00:42:29,480 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: No. 859 00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,799 Speaker 2: And they won it. So that to me, I would 860 00:42:32,800 --> 00:42:35,759 Speaker 2: have had them one because that's Mahomes. Yep, that's what 861 00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:38,880 Speaker 2: that's all about. So they have Philly won what on 862 00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:42,320 Speaker 2: this list. So the way that this breaks down is 863 00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 2: one hundred percent obviously is elite. It's a grading schedule, 864 00:42:46,120 --> 00:42:49,000 Speaker 2: very good as B eighty and up, C is seventy 865 00:42:49,040 --> 00:42:51,160 Speaker 2: and up and so forth, and so on. So Philly 866 00:42:51,160 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 2: gets a ninety four point one grade for them. They 867 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,200 Speaker 2: have the number one roster, the number four quarterback. Now, 868 00:42:56,239 --> 00:42:58,760 Speaker 2: I don't think that. I don't think if you're redrafting 869 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:02,240 Speaker 2: the NFL, Jalen Hurts isn't going fourth. No, no coaching. 870 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,279 Speaker 3: They have seven going in the top ten. 871 00:43:05,000 --> 00:43:05,560 Speaker 2: Eight to ten. 872 00:43:05,680 --> 00:43:08,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, for sure, top seven man draft. 873 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,960 Speaker 2: Two, front office one okay, but I think that they 874 00:43:13,000 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 2: don't have quarterback weighted properly here. I think quarterbacks deserves 875 00:43:17,000 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 2: even more than twenty percent. I would agree with that 876 00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:20,359 Speaker 2: it needs to be more. 877 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:24,320 Speaker 3: It will also it does also remain to be seen, 878 00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,640 Speaker 3: you know there when you're a successful organization like them. 879 00:43:28,000 --> 00:43:30,160 Speaker 3: I am in the I love their front office. I 880 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:32,280 Speaker 3: think that is that spot on. I think their overall 881 00:43:32,360 --> 00:43:34,920 Speaker 3: roster right now is as good as anybody's. Yes, I 882 00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,720 Speaker 3: think it's probably the number one roster period in the NFL. 883 00:43:39,760 --> 00:43:45,520 Speaker 3: The coaching staff, you know, I maybe it's not a 884 00:43:45,560 --> 00:43:48,440 Speaker 3: big deal for Nick Sirianni, but when you lose your 885 00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:52,600 Speaker 3: defensive coordinator and your offensive coordinator, and I think Sirianni 886 00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:54,440 Speaker 3: was really the offensive coordinator. But when you lose like 887 00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:59,480 Speaker 3: your top two assistants, sometimes that matters sometimes that plays 888 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:02,200 Speaker 3: darn right, it matters, plays a role. So yeah, I'm 889 00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:05,120 Speaker 3: curious see how they go. But from a roster standpoint, 890 00:44:05,160 --> 00:44:07,520 Speaker 3: and you know the fact that I think perhaps part 891 00:44:07,560 --> 00:44:09,600 Speaker 3: of the waiting from them that they wouldn't say out 892 00:44:09,680 --> 00:44:13,560 Speaker 3: loud could be that the path to being that team 893 00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:20,200 Speaker 3: in the NFC consistently is a lot easier than doing 894 00:44:20,239 --> 00:44:21,840 Speaker 3: it every year in. 895 00:44:21,880 --> 00:44:24,560 Speaker 2: The infinitely, as you'll as you're gonna about ready to hear. 896 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:28,400 Speaker 2: So Kansas City's two, no beef with that. They have 897 00:44:28,520 --> 00:44:32,680 Speaker 2: Cincinnati three on the list. Okay, the lowest Cincinnati is 898 00:44:32,719 --> 00:44:37,239 Speaker 2: on anything as coaching at seven overall roster three quarterback, two, draft, five, 899 00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 2: front office five quarterback or coach seven. They have the 900 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:44,600 Speaker 2: Baltimore Ravens fourth. What ye based on what they have 901 00:44:44,680 --> 00:44:46,840 Speaker 2: them tied for fourth. So their overall roster they have 902 00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:48,640 Speaker 2: as a six. I don't think it's a sixths roster 903 00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:51,040 Speaker 2: in the NFL. They have the quarterback as a five. 904 00:44:51,160 --> 00:44:53,320 Speaker 2: I don't think Lamar Jackson is the fifth quarterback in 905 00:44:53,320 --> 00:44:56,400 Speaker 2: the NFL. Uh. The coaching is a three, the draft 906 00:44:56,520 --> 00:44:58,040 Speaker 2: is an eight, in the front office is a two. 907 00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,520 Speaker 2: They have Baltimore tied for fourth they're tied for fourth 908 00:45:02,600 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 2: with Buffalo. Buffalo Bills are fourth. We have them there, 909 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,120 Speaker 2: that's fine. At number six, they have the Seattle Seahawks. 910 00:45:11,560 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 2: They have they go Gino as twelve quarterback okay, okay. 911 00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:22,279 Speaker 2: Coaching is seventeen overall rosters eleven, but draft because they 912 00:45:22,320 --> 00:45:24,760 Speaker 2: have so much draft capital from all the Russell stuff 913 00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:28,120 Speaker 2: is one. The front office is four, so there's six. 914 00:45:28,640 --> 00:45:34,600 Speaker 2: Pittsburgh Steelers are seven okay, nine overall roster, twenty two 915 00:45:34,680 --> 00:45:37,640 Speaker 2: on quarterback, three on coaching, nine on draft. Then you 916 00:45:37,760 --> 00:45:40,120 Speaker 2: can't you can't be there, can't be there if you 917 00:45:40,160 --> 00:45:42,040 Speaker 2: have the twenty two quarterback. So it's saying they have 918 00:45:42,239 --> 00:45:46,320 Speaker 2: this is weighted wrong. Yes, Jacksonville is eight okay, forty 919 00:45:46,400 --> 00:45:48,480 Speaker 2: nine Ers eight, Both of those are tied for eight. 920 00:45:48,880 --> 00:45:56,400 Speaker 2: All right, Cowboys ten okay, Lions eleven okay, Dolphins twelve, 921 00:46:00,800 --> 00:46:08,440 Speaker 2: Chargers thirteen, Chargers thirteen, Chargers thirteen. Why twenty eight coaching? Okay? So, 922 00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,239 Speaker 2: but twenty percent is coaching, which that's overvalued. 923 00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,800 Speaker 3: Not same as the quarterback. Not the same as the quarterback, No, 924 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:15,800 Speaker 3: not at all, asked Bill belichicking Tom Brady. 925 00:46:15,880 --> 00:46:20,200 Speaker 2: Right now, Green Bay Packers fourteen, they have the quarterback, 926 00:46:20,280 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 2: twenty five overall roster eighteen the draft, they're forced they 927 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:29,400 Speaker 2: have draft assets apparently, but Green Bay is on this 928 00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:32,319 Speaker 2: list of fit at fourteen. The New York Jets are 929 00:46:32,440 --> 00:46:37,560 Speaker 2: fifteen on this list. The New England Patriots are sixteen 930 00:46:38,160 --> 00:46:42,920 Speaker 2: on this list and coming in tied for seventeen with 931 00:46:43,080 --> 00:46:45,920 Speaker 2: the New York Football Giants. Are your Cleveland Browns. 932 00:46:46,200 --> 00:46:47,839 Speaker 3: We're behind the Patriots, that's right. 933 00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:51,280 Speaker 2: Okay, So they have us eleventh overall roster. 934 00:46:52,080 --> 00:46:57,960 Speaker 3: Everybody their own people at ESPN ABIs in the top ten, eighth, seventh, ninth. 935 00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:01,959 Speaker 2: They have DeShawn as the fourteenth quarterback in the league. 936 00:47:02,719 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 2: Coaching twenty Draft twenty nine. 937 00:47:07,880 --> 00:47:10,840 Speaker 3: Coaching is the whole staff. It's the staff, so above Ventrone, 938 00:47:10,840 --> 00:47:17,160 Speaker 3: who's elite? Jim kept in Okay, Draft twenty nine. We 939 00:47:17,239 --> 00:47:19,920 Speaker 3: don't no draft capital, only one more year. 940 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:25,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, and front office twelve seventeenth on the Future's rankings. 941 00:47:27,239 --> 00:47:30,680 Speaker 3: You know what this is meaningless? Let's go play football games. 942 00:47:32,600 --> 00:47:33,719 Speaker 3: Let's go play football games. 943 00:47:33,840 --> 00:47:37,160 Speaker 2: This is like, it's kind of like it's what I 944 00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:38,320 Speaker 2: talked about yesterday. 945 00:47:38,440 --> 00:47:40,839 Speaker 3: Of contents, nobody fun is fun. 946 00:47:40,920 --> 00:47:41,399 Speaker 2: These are fun. 947 00:47:41,440 --> 00:47:41,920 Speaker 3: That's outrat. 948 00:47:42,000 --> 00:47:44,040 Speaker 2: It's great sports talk radio. This is fun stuff. It's 949 00:47:44,040 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 2: fun for fans to talk about. It goes to what 950 00:47:46,160 --> 00:47:49,440 Speaker 2: I talked about yesterday. People are unwilling to have a 951 00:47:49,560 --> 00:47:53,360 Speaker 2: real conversation around us or Watson, yes, because of what 952 00:47:53,520 --> 00:47:57,279 Speaker 2: happened last year, and so it's easier to just say, oh, yeah, 953 00:47:57,280 --> 00:48:01,759 Speaker 2: they're like New England. Yes, And the reality is that 954 00:48:01,880 --> 00:48:07,320 Speaker 2: those two operations are in no way similar. Yeah not, 955 00:48:07,440 --> 00:48:11,480 Speaker 2: were they not over the next three years. No. 956 00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:14,160 Speaker 3: And basically what they're saying too is and this is 957 00:48:14,239 --> 00:48:16,120 Speaker 3: the one thing. Look, I use these things kind of 958 00:48:16,160 --> 00:48:20,680 Speaker 3: directionally speaking. Four of their top seventeen teams are all 959 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:23,800 Speaker 3: in our division. Three of their top seven. Is that 960 00:48:23,880 --> 00:48:26,560 Speaker 3: what you said, are in our division, and it really 961 00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:37,520 Speaker 3: shouldn't be. It should be Bengals. If you want to 962 00:48:37,520 --> 00:48:39,479 Speaker 3: put the ravenshead of us, that's fine, but we should 963 00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:42,759 Speaker 3: be in the very same area as them. We haven't 964 00:48:42,800 --> 00:48:44,600 Speaker 3: done it, that's the problem. Here's the other thing. If 965 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,759 Speaker 3: you've had everything that was on our roster, and you 966 00:48:47,880 --> 00:48:50,040 Speaker 3: had the talent of Deshaun Watson, but his name was 967 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:58,120 Speaker 3: Bob Schmohawk and we were the Cleveland Schmohawks, were nobody 968 00:48:58,120 --> 00:49:00,840 Speaker 3: would look at us because they see that logo and 969 00:49:01,000 --> 00:49:05,600 Speaker 3: that name, which has unfortunately been synonymous with a lack 970 00:49:05,680 --> 00:49:09,160 Speaker 3: of success. And we have the most non playoff appearances 971 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:12,040 Speaker 3: since twenty ten, we have the most like the lowest 972 00:49:12,120 --> 00:49:15,000 Speaker 3: last place finishes in your division since all of these things. Yeah, 973 00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,200 Speaker 3: and it's really since ninety nine. That colors the conversation 974 00:49:19,360 --> 00:49:22,239 Speaker 3: as well. But that every time though, anytime somebody gives 975 00:49:22,360 --> 00:49:25,840 Speaker 3: us hype, right, the Browns do not make that person 976 00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:26,800 Speaker 3: look good that season. 977 00:49:27,280 --> 00:49:31,120 Speaker 2: So all true, All of that's true. It's the emotion 978 00:49:31,680 --> 00:49:36,080 Speaker 2: that people have with the logo or with Deshaun. This 979 00:49:36,280 --> 00:49:39,320 Speaker 2: is supposed to be imperior. This is supposed to be 980 00:49:39,440 --> 00:49:42,800 Speaker 2: because they're humans, right, So it's subjective of course, but 981 00:49:42,920 --> 00:49:47,120 Speaker 2: it's yeah, there's just no way that this roster, this 982 00:49:47,280 --> 00:49:49,200 Speaker 2: setup is to that. You gotta go prove it. I 983 00:49:49,239 --> 00:49:52,320 Speaker 2: get it, everybody understands it. But I thought that was funny. 984 00:49:52,640 --> 00:49:56,880 Speaker 3: It's absurd, is what it is. It's completely absurd. 985 00:49:57,080 --> 00:49:59,359 Speaker 2: But we have to have shown year in and year 986 00:49:59,400 --> 00:50:03,800 Speaker 2: out in a bill to be incredibly cap nimble, to 987 00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:09,160 Speaker 2: be incredibly creative with trades. It's it's it's nuts to 988 00:50:09,280 --> 00:50:12,040 Speaker 2: be in that spot. But then anyway, that's it. We 989 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:16,120 Speaker 2: could easily. They used the very least grouped with Pittsburgh 990 00:50:16,280 --> 00:50:20,600 Speaker 2: and Baltimore in the vicinity with them. Yes, you want 991 00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 2: to have Cincinnati had fine, but then the next group 992 00:50:24,000 --> 00:50:28,080 Speaker 2: those three teams should be in a six slot area. Yes, 993 00:50:28,200 --> 00:50:31,440 Speaker 2: Like if you wanted to have us eleven or twelve, fine, okay, fine, 994 00:50:32,920 --> 00:50:38,359 Speaker 2: seventeen behind the seven tied with the Giants. They didn't 995 00:50:38,360 --> 00:50:41,960 Speaker 2: wagh quarterback enough is the reality of it. That's not. 996 00:50:42,160 --> 00:50:44,280 Speaker 3: But that wouldn't even have helped us in their rankings 997 00:50:44,320 --> 00:50:44,920 Speaker 3: that he's forteen. 998 00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:46,440 Speaker 2: No, but they, I mean, tellbody knows what to do 999 00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:50,840 Speaker 2: with they Dan Dimes is one spot below Watson to 1000 00:50:52,080 --> 00:50:52,760 Speaker 2: two is twelve. 1001 00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:57,000 Speaker 3: Here's what I'm saying. If the league were disbanded, Yeah, 1002 00:50:57,000 --> 00:50:59,160 Speaker 3: and everybody got to draft everybody at their exact current 1003 00:50:59,239 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 3: age and all of that. Right now, Deshaun Watson is 1004 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:04,040 Speaker 3: not the fourteenth quarterback that's draft. 1005 00:51:04,280 --> 00:51:11,439 Speaker 2: No, No, he's not. Harriet is not no, no, no, yeah, 1006 00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:14,160 Speaker 2: two was they had two or twelve on this all right? 1007 00:51:14,239 --> 00:51:17,520 Speaker 2: Second hour of the program. Oh the home State. Yeah, 1008 00:51:17,960 --> 00:51:21,520 Speaker 2: come on, come on in Scarlett, all right, final hour 1009 00:51:21,640 --> 00:51:23,600 Speaker 2: of the week coming up next. We'll get you set 1010 00:51:23,680 --> 00:51:26,279 Speaker 2: on the safeties have a little fun with the top 1011 00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:29,960 Speaker 2: wide receivers that we've had ze guests. We will do 1012 00:51:30,080 --> 00:51:31,719 Speaker 2: all of that. You listen to Clevelandruns Daily on eight 1013 00:51:31,719 --> 00:51:33,080 Speaker 2: fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1014 00:51:39,760 --> 00:51:42,680 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by Bally Bett Coming 1015 00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,760 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 1016 00:51:45,880 --> 00:52:08,200 Speaker 2: Cleveland Cleveland Brown's twenty twenty three schedule is here. Get 1017 00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,600 Speaker 2: your single game tickets now for all the great matchups 1018 00:52:10,600 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 2: at Cleveland brown Stadium. Is a Cleveland Browns dot com 1019 00:52:12,600 --> 00:52:15,360 Speaker 2: slash tickets to make your purchase today. 1020 00:52:15,480 --> 00:52:17,000 Speaker 3: I don't know why that tickled me. Maybe that's what 1021 00:52:17,040 --> 00:52:19,040 Speaker 3: I'll do. I won't I won't touch the mic anymore. 1022 00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:21,840 Speaker 2: Whoo, and then we'll know if I'm not or not. 1023 00:52:22,280 --> 00:52:23,080 Speaker 3: Give me I love that. 1024 00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:23,759 Speaker 2: Love that. 1025 00:52:23,920 --> 00:52:27,560 Speaker 3: Yeah, he's really pumped about that. You're welcome. 1026 00:52:28,200 --> 00:52:32,400 Speaker 2: I do like how how all that all of his 1027 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:36,200 Speaker 2: ills would be solved with just a light. We actually 1028 00:52:36,280 --> 00:52:38,399 Speaker 2: had a light at one point. I think we still 1029 00:52:38,400 --> 00:52:41,440 Speaker 2: have one around her actually hook to the mics, like 1030 00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:43,840 Speaker 2: have to turn it off and on. We very appreciative 1031 00:52:43,880 --> 00:52:46,600 Speaker 2: of the light people who supplied it, Yes, but also 1032 00:52:46,680 --> 00:52:48,719 Speaker 2: like we would need engineering in here to connect it 1033 00:52:49,320 --> 00:52:52,480 Speaker 2: to the actual mics, So that gave us that it 1034 00:52:52,520 --> 00:52:55,160 Speaker 2: would get that all sorted out of her husband. Yeah, 1035 00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:55,959 Speaker 2: it would. 1036 00:52:56,040 --> 00:52:59,799 Speaker 3: It just makes it easy, It just makes it would 1037 00:52:59,840 --> 00:53:00,880 Speaker 3: just make our lives easier. 1038 00:53:02,080 --> 00:53:04,720 Speaker 2: I think do you remember one of my five favorite 1039 00:53:04,719 --> 00:53:06,719 Speaker 2: things that ever happened on this show was when we 1040 00:53:06,880 --> 00:53:10,600 Speaker 2: described to Hoff that Gibbe tries to make our life harder. 1041 00:53:11,120 --> 00:53:13,640 Speaker 3: Yeah, He's like, what what are you talking? What are 1042 00:53:13,640 --> 00:53:17,120 Speaker 3: you talking about? That's not as job's making your life easier? 1043 00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:20,160 Speaker 2: No, no, not offosite. He couldn't believe it, couldn't get 1044 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,640 Speaker 2: us that around. He couldn't do it. No. All right, 1045 00:53:22,719 --> 00:53:25,840 Speaker 2: let's continue our countdown to training camp, which is tomorrow. 1046 00:53:26,000 --> 00:53:31,040 Speaker 2: Positional previews. Uh, let's do the safeties, good Sir Douc Dezi. 1047 00:53:31,320 --> 00:53:34,400 Speaker 3: All right, So, as you know, one big change in 1048 00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:36,800 Speaker 3: the safety room from a year ago, actually two big changes. 1049 00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:45,640 Speaker 3: John Johnson is out, Ronnie Harrison is out, an incomes 1050 00:53:45,719 --> 00:53:50,040 Speaker 3: Juan Thornhill and Rodney McLeod joining the returning Grant Delpit. 1051 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:55,040 Speaker 3: Delpit last year breakout season for him four interceptions, team high, 1052 00:53:55,400 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 3: ten passes defense, third on the team behind only Denzel 1053 00:53:58,120 --> 00:54:00,720 Speaker 3: and m j Emerson one hundred and five five tackles 1054 00:54:01,120 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 3: that was a team high. So he led the team 1055 00:54:02,760 --> 00:54:04,840 Speaker 3: in tackles, led the team in interceptions was third, and 1056 00:54:04,920 --> 00:54:07,239 Speaker 3: passes defense. He was all over the field to play 1057 00:54:07,320 --> 00:54:09,880 Speaker 3: the whole year. Got better as the season went on. 1058 00:54:11,000 --> 00:54:12,879 Speaker 3: I think he had a pick. Three of his picks 1059 00:54:12,960 --> 00:54:15,600 Speaker 3: came in the last quarter of the season. I think 1060 00:54:15,680 --> 00:54:17,120 Speaker 3: Grant del put we got a star in the making. 1061 00:54:17,200 --> 00:54:19,200 Speaker 3: Wan thorn Hill a guy who's been around the league, 1062 00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:21,320 Speaker 3: knows what it takes to get it done, been with 1063 00:54:21,400 --> 00:54:24,400 Speaker 3: the Super Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs. He brings that fire, 1064 00:54:24,480 --> 00:54:28,080 Speaker 3: that attitude, and that know how I think of what 1065 00:54:28,239 --> 00:54:31,320 Speaker 3: it takes. And also the confidence. So much of it 1066 00:54:31,440 --> 00:54:33,720 Speaker 3: is confidence. So much of anything in life is confidence. 1067 00:54:33,800 --> 00:54:36,319 Speaker 3: Do you believe that you're going to get it done? 1068 00:54:36,360 --> 00:54:38,160 Speaker 3: And wan Thornon Hill is a guy who certainly comes 1069 00:54:38,200 --> 00:54:41,759 Speaker 3: in with a lot of belief. Eight career interceptions, coming 1070 00:54:41,800 --> 00:54:44,440 Speaker 3: off a tie for his career high last year with 1071 00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:47,120 Speaker 3: three picks, also set a career high with one sack, 1072 00:54:47,480 --> 00:54:51,000 Speaker 3: nine passes defense, and seventy one tackles and four tackles 1073 00:54:51,040 --> 00:54:52,799 Speaker 3: for loss. So he's coming off of basically a career 1074 00:54:52,920 --> 00:54:56,200 Speaker 3: year as the Super Bowl champion safety of the Super 1075 00:54:56,200 --> 00:54:58,920 Speaker 3: Bowl champion Kansas City Chiefs and then Rodney McCloud. And 1076 00:54:58,960 --> 00:55:04,840 Speaker 3: I don't think that it is possible to overstate this signing. 1077 00:55:04,960 --> 00:55:08,200 Speaker 3: I don't think it's getting a ton of no headlines, 1078 00:55:08,239 --> 00:55:10,200 Speaker 3: is not being talked about a lot, and we will 1079 00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,759 Speaker 3: be a two safety team primarily. I get that. But 1080 00:55:12,920 --> 00:55:16,080 Speaker 3: Rodney McLeod is an excellent veteran who has been around 1081 00:55:16,120 --> 00:55:18,719 Speaker 3: this league for a very very long time, still is 1082 00:55:18,800 --> 00:55:22,480 Speaker 3: playing at an unbelievably high level. Last year started every 1083 00:55:22,520 --> 00:55:26,120 Speaker 3: game for Indianapolis. He knows Jim Schwartz's defense, and he 1084 00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 3: gives that kind of coach on the field as well 1085 00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:33,399 Speaker 3: as the flexibility to play some of those three safety looks. 1086 00:55:33,440 --> 00:55:35,080 Speaker 3: And I talked about yesterday, do we play a big 1087 00:55:35,239 --> 00:55:38,480 Speaker 3: dime package where you've got Thornhill, McLeod and Delpit out 1088 00:55:38,480 --> 00:55:41,839 Speaker 3: there with MJ. Denzel and Greg Newsom? And I think 1089 00:55:41,840 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 3: that certainly is in play, and so I for one, 1090 00:55:44,840 --> 00:55:46,800 Speaker 3: am excited to see that. But I think Rodney McLeod 1091 00:55:47,800 --> 00:55:51,200 Speaker 3: really has a chance to be a very valuable role 1092 00:55:51,320 --> 00:55:55,560 Speaker 3: player and also a very valuable just member mentor leader 1093 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,319 Speaker 3: on this defense. And so those are your top three, 1094 00:55:58,800 --> 00:56:00,920 Speaker 3: then you're gonna have battling it out. Anthony Bell, who 1095 00:56:01,000 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 3: was on your team a year ago as an undrafted 1096 00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:06,399 Speaker 3: free agent, didn't play a ton on the defensive side 1097 00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:08,680 Speaker 3: of the ball, but he will be competing and trying 1098 00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:10,120 Speaker 3: to hold off. I think you know the pair of 1099 00:56:10,160 --> 00:56:12,680 Speaker 3: Buckeyes because Tanner mccowser they have working as a safety 1100 00:56:12,800 --> 00:56:16,120 Speaker 3: now and Ronnie Hickman as well. So I think that's 1101 00:56:16,160 --> 00:56:18,160 Speaker 3: what you're looking. I think you have three locks and 1102 00:56:18,200 --> 00:56:20,240 Speaker 3: then you have a battle for that fourth safety spot. 1103 00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,080 Speaker 3: And special teams will go a long way. And Anthony 1104 00:56:22,120 --> 00:56:24,319 Speaker 3: Bell's a very good special teams player, so he has 1105 00:56:24,400 --> 00:56:28,319 Speaker 3: the advantage obviously having been here. So the Anthony Bell 1106 00:56:28,440 --> 00:56:32,160 Speaker 3: is probably the leader in the clubhouse, but he will 1107 00:56:32,239 --> 00:56:34,279 Speaker 3: be battling. I think Hickman is probably gives him the 1108 00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,760 Speaker 3: biggest challenge coming out of the Ohio State University. 1109 00:56:38,360 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 2: So we had five going into week one this year. 1110 00:56:41,320 --> 00:56:43,759 Speaker 3: Last season last season, yeah, we had five. 1111 00:56:44,560 --> 00:56:47,319 Speaker 2: That's what Browns kept five going into week one last year. 1112 00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:48,600 Speaker 3: I'm trying to think who the fifth was. 1113 00:56:48,840 --> 00:56:51,240 Speaker 2: Me too. These are Gibbie's notes. 1114 00:56:51,160 --> 00:56:54,840 Speaker 3: The Anthony Bell, Ronnie Harrison, Grant Delpitt, and John John Johnson, 1115 00:56:55,160 --> 00:56:59,800 Speaker 3: Rich Lacount oh richlunt Rich Lacount. I had to be 1116 00:56:59,800 --> 00:57:02,719 Speaker 3: a well he was gone by week four, but yeah, 1117 00:57:02,719 --> 00:57:03,879 Speaker 3: I could see Richard the count. 1118 00:57:04,960 --> 00:57:06,080 Speaker 2: Yeah, that was that would be it. 1119 00:57:06,200 --> 00:57:09,560 Speaker 3: I'm almost Yeah, the young man out of Georgia who 1120 00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:11,719 Speaker 3: was I believe, and he's with the Rammets. He's with 1121 00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:12,320 Speaker 3: the Rammits. 1122 00:57:12,440 --> 00:57:13,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, just ram it. 1123 00:57:13,320 --> 00:57:14,879 Speaker 3: Well, it's good that he's I'm happy that he's still 1124 00:57:14,880 --> 00:57:17,320 Speaker 3: in the league. Good player Georgia had that obviously, that 1125 00:57:17,480 --> 00:57:23,680 Speaker 3: unfortunate motorcycle accident. I think we keep four here, would 1126 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:24,280 Speaker 3: be my guest. 1127 00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:27,479 Speaker 2: Well, we have to because we've added that defensive line. 1128 00:57:27,600 --> 00:57:29,160 Speaker 3: We're going to need more defense trying to play the 1129 00:57:29,280 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 3: rotations way that so you're gonna have to hole from somewhere. 1130 00:57:32,200 --> 00:57:36,520 Speaker 2: That's right, I think the most I mean obviously that 1131 00:57:36,960 --> 00:57:40,439 Speaker 2: we have talked about the double deuce for a long 1132 00:57:40,520 --> 00:57:45,520 Speaker 2: time with Grant Delpit and showed certainly signs last year 1133 00:57:45,640 --> 00:57:49,680 Speaker 2: of being the player that we thought he was upon drafting. 1134 00:57:50,600 --> 00:57:52,840 Speaker 2: Of course, missed that entire first season when he looked 1135 00:57:52,960 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 2: so good as a rookie, and then missed that whole 1136 00:57:56,040 --> 00:57:59,560 Speaker 2: season with injury. One of the most I mean, still 1137 00:57:59,600 --> 00:58:03,120 Speaker 2: to this day, one of the craziest injury things ever, 1138 00:58:04,080 --> 00:58:05,600 Speaker 2: just so freak that. 1139 00:58:05,840 --> 00:58:07,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, the whole thing, it was like, wait, what, he's 1140 00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:09,360 Speaker 3: out for the year, out for the air, just catching 1141 00:58:09,400 --> 00:58:11,680 Speaker 3: a little pass. He's out for the year. And then 1142 00:58:11,760 --> 00:58:18,600 Speaker 3: Greedy suffered his injury. All very sad, very sad. That 1143 00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,880 Speaker 3: was a crazy That was a crazy day, not a 1144 00:58:20,920 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 3: fun one. 1145 00:58:22,080 --> 00:58:25,760 Speaker 2: He's got he's if he can be what he was 1146 00:58:25,880 --> 00:58:28,320 Speaker 2: drafted to be. This is the thing here with this 1147 00:58:28,480 --> 00:58:31,200 Speaker 2: back seven. We were huge on him. This is the 1148 00:58:31,240 --> 00:58:39,600 Speaker 2: thing with this back seven. Denzel is is who he is, Newsome, Emerson, 1149 00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:47,400 Speaker 2: j Okay, delp It. That group has got to go 1150 00:58:47,680 --> 00:58:52,040 Speaker 2: from good, solid good. A couple of them need to 1151 00:58:52,040 --> 00:58:55,240 Speaker 2: get to great and there needs to be consistent good 1152 00:58:55,280 --> 00:58:57,360 Speaker 2: out of all of them. They need they need to 1153 00:58:57,400 --> 00:58:57,960 Speaker 2: be real. 1154 00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,600 Speaker 3: Pros all of them, and they need if makers taking 1155 00:59:01,640 --> 00:59:04,600 Speaker 3: the football away interceptions. So we're talking about going from 1156 00:59:05,120 --> 00:59:09,520 Speaker 3: that group on that back seven, going from four picks 1157 00:59:09,560 --> 00:59:15,240 Speaker 3: for Delpit, three for Denzel Ward, none for Emerson, none 1158 00:59:15,320 --> 00:59:19,720 Speaker 3: for Greg Newsom. You had I don't see John Johnson. 1159 00:59:19,840 --> 00:59:22,360 Speaker 3: John Johnson had one, which was the one against Houston. 1160 00:59:22,920 --> 00:59:25,920 Speaker 3: So we had as a team last year we had 1161 00:59:25,920 --> 00:59:29,440 Speaker 3: a total of eleven picks as a team, four for Delpit, 1162 00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,440 Speaker 3: one for John Johnson, that's five, three for Denzel that's eight. 1163 00:59:32,600 --> 00:59:36,720 Speaker 3: Tony Fields had one, Dion Jones had one. AJ Green 1164 00:59:36,840 --> 00:59:40,160 Speaker 3: had one. That's your eleven. We need to have that 1165 00:59:40,360 --> 00:59:47,240 Speaker 3: just from the backs, the secondary room alone, secondary room alone, Delpit, 1166 00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:55,720 Speaker 3: McLeod Thornhill, MJ Newsom, Denzel, AJ Green. That those seven 1167 00:59:55,840 --> 00:59:59,880 Speaker 3: guys right there need to have on their own eleven twelve, 1168 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:03,960 Speaker 3: fourteen picks. Yeah, they need to be difference makers and 1169 01:00:04,000 --> 01:00:06,960 Speaker 3: there should be opportunities because if we are who we're 1170 01:00:07,000 --> 01:00:08,960 Speaker 3: supposed to be, that means we are going to be 1171 01:00:09,600 --> 01:00:12,280 Speaker 3: have some leads and we are gonna have a hillacious 1172 01:00:12,360 --> 01:00:14,840 Speaker 3: pass rush. You're gonna be playing more man with an out, 1173 01:00:14,880 --> 01:00:17,400 Speaker 3: and safeties are gonna be you know, single high, one 1174 01:00:17,440 --> 01:00:19,880 Speaker 3: guy coming down and robbing, having an opportunity to pick 1175 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:21,800 Speaker 3: the football off. That's what we have to do, this 1176 01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:25,800 Speaker 3: group and this safety room. It's our best trio that 1177 01:00:25,920 --> 01:00:30,320 Speaker 3: we've had. They just need to go ahead and deliver 1178 01:00:31,080 --> 01:00:33,640 Speaker 3: on their promise, which is they have the ability to 1179 01:00:33,720 --> 01:00:38,920 Speaker 3: be very very good. That safeties and corners difference makers, 1180 01:00:39,040 --> 01:00:39,720 Speaker 3: game wreckers. 1181 01:00:40,880 --> 01:00:44,560 Speaker 2: It's gotta happen. Got to happen. We'll do Ze's best guests. 1182 01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,600 Speaker 2: The top ten wide receivers in football. Coming up next, 1183 01:00:47,640 --> 01:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Touals to Cleveland runs daily on a fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1184 01:01:01,520 --> 01:01:04,439 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Bet, Coming 1185 01:01:04,560 --> 01:01:08,080 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1186 01:01:17,480 --> 01:01:19,520 Speaker 2: All right, welcome back to Cleveland, brown Dalely brought to 1187 01:01:19,520 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 2: you by bally Bet sports betting partner of your Cleveland 1188 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:26,000 Speaker 2: Browns coming soon to Ohio on eight to fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1189 01:01:26,080 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 2: We have been doing this for the last couple of 1190 01:01:27,440 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 2: weeks ESPN's Top ten positional rankings, as put together by 1191 01:01:31,960 --> 01:01:34,920 Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler, but as voted on by the league's coaches, 1192 01:01:35,000 --> 01:01:40,360 Speaker 2: general managers, and scouts. We are at the wide receiver position. 1193 01:01:40,760 --> 01:01:45,000 Speaker 3: This one is this one's impossible. It's impossible. I've got 1194 01:01:45,120 --> 01:01:45,720 Speaker 3: you many. 1195 01:01:47,320 --> 01:01:47,920 Speaker 2: I think I have. 1196 01:01:51,640 --> 01:01:53,680 Speaker 3: I mean, I could have twenty names that I think 1197 01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:58,760 Speaker 3: are have legit at least eighteen that have legit cases. 1198 01:02:01,200 --> 01:02:03,200 Speaker 2: Is this the best the wide receiver position has ever 1199 01:02:03,280 --> 01:02:04,560 Speaker 2: been in the sport? Yes? 1200 01:02:06,000 --> 01:02:06,680 Speaker 3: I would say so. 1201 01:02:07,160 --> 01:02:09,920 Speaker 2: All right? I mean is this also? Did you did 1202 01:02:09,960 --> 01:02:12,360 Speaker 2: I run this by you? Where will there come a 1203 01:02:12,600 --> 01:02:16,400 Speaker 2: point relatively soon where the wide receiver position gets viewed 1204 01:02:16,440 --> 01:02:18,480 Speaker 2: kind of how the running back position is. Nope, you 1205 01:02:18,520 --> 01:02:20,840 Speaker 2: don't think, I don't. I do not think so. 1206 01:02:21,040 --> 01:02:23,120 Speaker 3: I think that there's too much of it. Yeah, there's 1207 01:02:23,160 --> 01:02:26,680 Speaker 3: three of them on the field, but there's three of them. 1208 01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:30,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, well that part's true. So but I wonder if 1209 01:02:30,080 --> 01:02:31,360 Speaker 2: we will get to a point where you're just not 1210 01:02:31,400 --> 01:02:32,960 Speaker 2: going to pay guys because it's just easier to go 1211 01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:33,840 Speaker 2: draft another guy. 1212 01:02:33,960 --> 01:02:38,720 Speaker 3: I think it's hard to find like the true the guys. 1213 01:02:39,000 --> 01:02:40,800 Speaker 2: I mean, I don't know, is it though, Like there's 1214 01:02:40,920 --> 01:02:43,480 Speaker 2: you just said you had twenty I mean, and how 1215 01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,360 Speaker 2: many of those are feeling like they're ones? I mean there, 1216 01:02:46,520 --> 01:02:48,200 Speaker 2: I just I just wrote down their top ten so 1217 01:02:48,240 --> 01:02:50,280 Speaker 2: I don't have to keep dealing with this from a 1218 01:02:50,320 --> 01:02:53,240 Speaker 2: website standpoint. And every single guy in the top ten, 1219 01:02:53,320 --> 01:02:55,840 Speaker 2: I promise you, thinks they're a one. And every single 1220 01:02:55,920 --> 01:02:59,840 Speaker 2: honorable mention with the exception of one, probably thinks they're 1221 01:02:59,840 --> 01:03:02,640 Speaker 2: a one. All right, like a number one receiver. 1222 01:03:02,920 --> 01:03:05,000 Speaker 3: Yeah, all right, go ahead, here's what I'm gonna give you. 1223 01:03:05,200 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 2: This is what I got for you. 1224 01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:08,880 Speaker 3: Oh man, he's a dang. 1225 01:03:08,760 --> 01:03:10,800 Speaker 2: That's another one. See, there's so many. 1226 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:13,280 Speaker 3: All right, so I've got I'm gonna give you my 1227 01:03:13,400 --> 01:03:14,920 Speaker 3: top ten and see if I nailed the top ten? 1228 01:03:15,000 --> 01:03:20,000 Speaker 3: All right? Justin Jefferson Tyreek Hill ye, Davante. 1229 01:03:19,640 --> 01:03:22,320 Speaker 2: Adam hold On Hill was fourth on their list. Fourth, yep, 1230 01:03:22,480 --> 01:03:25,880 Speaker 2: all right. Davonte Adams Adams was two. 1231 01:03:27,840 --> 01:03:33,040 Speaker 3: A J. Brown, Yeah, he was seven. Cooper Cup he 1232 01:03:33,200 --> 01:03:37,880 Speaker 3: was five. Jamar Chase he was three. Stefan Diggs six. 1233 01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:41,240 Speaker 3: And now it's here, this is where I think it 1234 01:03:41,240 --> 01:03:46,400 Speaker 3: get strict. Deebo Samuel he was honorable mention what all right? 1235 01:03:46,960 --> 01:03:52,120 Speaker 3: CD lamb he was ten. Mike Evans he was honorable mentioned. 1236 01:03:52,200 --> 01:03:55,240 Speaker 3: That is he is so overlooked. So that's what I 1237 01:03:55,280 --> 01:03:57,600 Speaker 3: thought me. They go, does a Mon Ross Saint Brown 1238 01:03:57,840 --> 01:03:58,840 Speaker 3: make it onto the top ten? 1239 01:03:58,960 --> 01:04:01,840 Speaker 2: He does not? He does not. How many do I have? 1240 01:04:01,920 --> 01:04:02,720 Speaker 3: So I need? How many more? 1241 01:04:02,800 --> 01:04:03,640 Speaker 2: You're done? You're out? 1242 01:04:04,000 --> 01:04:06,120 Speaker 3: I know, Malcom Homing, Where do I need you? 1243 01:04:06,480 --> 01:04:07,720 Speaker 2: You got eight of the ten. 1244 01:04:08,600 --> 01:04:13,160 Speaker 3: That's Mike Evans is not a top ten. That's crazy. 1245 01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 3: Jalen Waddle Nope. T Higgins nope. Both DK Metcalf yep eight. 1246 01:04:23,680 --> 01:04:28,280 Speaker 3: Davonte Smith nope. Garrett Wilson Nope. Garrett Wilson no device 1247 01:04:28,360 --> 01:04:40,280 Speaker 3: with Okay Amari nope, Chris Alave nope, Godwin nope. Terry McLaurin, yep, 1248 01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:44,280 Speaker 3: he was nine. So and then you have you have 1249 01:04:44,880 --> 01:04:47,920 Speaker 3: DJ Moore, Tyler Lockett, Keenan Allen, Mike Williams. 1250 01:04:48,880 --> 01:04:50,920 Speaker 2: So this, in a way, this kind of goes to 1251 01:04:51,000 --> 01:04:54,680 Speaker 2: the point I'm making that there are like twenty. 1252 01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:57,080 Speaker 3: Ones, right, but to feel like awesome about it, you 1253 01:04:57,240 --> 01:04:59,120 Speaker 3: want to have two of them for sure. So that's 1254 01:04:59,280 --> 01:05:01,080 Speaker 3: sixty two sixty four guys. 1255 01:05:01,520 --> 01:05:03,800 Speaker 2: Oh if every team, But what I'm saying is is 1256 01:05:03,840 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 2: that you're getting five guys. It feels like in every 1257 01:05:07,040 --> 01:05:11,680 Speaker 2: draft that could come in and go could like no, 1258 01:05:11,800 --> 01:05:14,080 Speaker 2: but a lot of them do like and the impact 1259 01:05:14,120 --> 01:05:16,920 Speaker 2: they have is immediate in a lot of Yeah, Like 1260 01:05:17,000 --> 01:05:18,920 Speaker 2: if you think about this, this run we're in with, 1261 01:05:19,200 --> 01:05:23,320 Speaker 2: that's Jamar Jefferson or Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase, all those 1262 01:05:23,360 --> 01:05:25,320 Speaker 2: Alabama receivers, these Ohio State kids. 1263 01:05:25,560 --> 01:05:29,520 Speaker 3: But like, Judy hasn't necessarily been what you expected. Henry 1264 01:05:29,600 --> 01:05:32,240 Speaker 3: Ruggs is not in the league anymore, obviously, no, No, but. 1265 01:05:32,440 --> 01:05:35,760 Speaker 2: Waddle is, Devanta Smith is, Like I mean, there's been 1266 01:05:36,080 --> 01:05:38,760 Speaker 2: so much talent that has come into the league at 1267 01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:41,320 Speaker 2: the position in the last but you need you do 1268 01:05:41,560 --> 01:05:44,240 Speaker 2: you want it, certainly want he wants three for sure. 1269 01:05:44,360 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 2: I just think it's I think it's becoming easier to 1270 01:05:47,320 --> 01:05:49,400 Speaker 2: do it in the draft. There was a twenty years 1271 01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,160 Speaker 2: ago Randy Moss like a receiver at the top. There'd 1272 01:05:54,200 --> 01:05:56,800 Speaker 2: be one or two first round picks that were receiver. 1273 01:05:57,040 --> 01:05:59,600 Speaker 2: Now there's six because you're playing so many more of them. 1274 01:05:59,800 --> 01:06:02,440 Speaker 2: But I also think so many more great athletes are 1275 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:06,400 Speaker 2: being steered to the receiver, that there's an influx, a 1276 01:06:06,560 --> 01:06:09,720 Speaker 2: glut of absurd talent. The guys that you there's guys 1277 01:06:09,800 --> 01:06:13,320 Speaker 2: we didn't even name that are awesome for sure. Yeah, Like, 1278 01:06:13,520 --> 01:06:17,000 Speaker 2: here's the others receiving vote. You mentioned Amrod State Brown, 1279 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,680 Speaker 2: you mentioned Alave, Calvin, Ridley Cooper, you mentioned Tyler Lockett, 1280 01:06:21,040 --> 01:06:23,880 Speaker 2: Keenan Allen, you mentioned DJ Moore, you mentioned DeAndre Hopkins, 1281 01:06:23,960 --> 01:06:28,360 Speaker 2: Mike Williams, Godwin Ann. We mentioned there's thirty names here, 1282 01:06:28,400 --> 01:06:31,800 Speaker 2: thirty some names here. Yeah, that are all dudes, most 1283 01:06:31,840 --> 01:06:32,120 Speaker 2: of them. 1284 01:06:32,280 --> 01:06:35,160 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that your point of that more people 1285 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:37,680 Speaker 3: are going to be playing receiver. That doesn't make sense. 1286 01:06:37,720 --> 01:06:39,080 Speaker 3: But the game is going to be it's not going 1287 01:06:39,160 --> 01:06:41,840 Speaker 3: to become less pass oriented as we go into the future. 1288 01:06:42,160 --> 01:06:47,400 Speaker 3: I are certainly skewed in its favor, and so you're 1289 01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,520 Speaker 3: gonna do what you're gonna The Bengals are a perfect 1290 01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:52,600 Speaker 3: example of it. They're gonna have to choose which one 1291 01:06:52,600 --> 01:06:54,280 Speaker 3: of the guys they pay and then who they try 1292 01:06:54,360 --> 01:06:56,360 Speaker 3: to continue and load up in the draft to put 1293 01:06:56,360 --> 01:06:59,040 Speaker 3: alongside them. So they're going to choose the PA Jamar Chase. Yeah, 1294 01:06:59,120 --> 01:07:01,000 Speaker 3: and they're not going to be able to pay te Higgins. 1295 01:07:01,640 --> 01:07:05,400 Speaker 3: Tans is that T Higgins easily? When Jamar Chase out 1296 01:07:05,440 --> 01:07:09,560 Speaker 3: last year, Tigans was the number one wide receiver. 1297 01:07:09,720 --> 01:07:11,080 Speaker 2: He is a one, all right? 1298 01:07:11,160 --> 01:07:12,360 Speaker 3: So t I want you want to pull up the 1299 01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,600 Speaker 3: games that Chase missed if I can pull those, because 1300 01:07:15,600 --> 01:07:17,560 Speaker 3: I bet, I bet it's pretty obvious in his game logs. 1301 01:07:17,560 --> 01:07:19,520 Speaker 3: I bet I don't even need to ask you which 1302 01:07:19,560 --> 01:07:21,960 Speaker 3: ones he missed, all right? 1303 01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:23,200 Speaker 2: So T Higgins. 1304 01:07:24,400 --> 01:07:31,160 Speaker 3: Last year, I think it was after the New Orleans game, 1305 01:07:31,400 --> 01:07:34,160 Speaker 3: he was out and he was out played. He played 1306 01:07:34,200 --> 01:07:36,360 Speaker 3: in the New Orleans game, he played, he played on 1307 01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,800 Speaker 3: a Thursday night, and then he played Atlanta and they 1308 01:07:39,840 --> 01:07:41,959 Speaker 3: didn't play us. We were the first one that he missed, 1309 01:07:42,040 --> 01:07:45,000 Speaker 3: right or did he play against US, No, Jamar Chase 1310 01:07:45,000 --> 01:07:46,240 Speaker 3: did not play against When he. 1311 01:07:46,280 --> 01:07:50,680 Speaker 2: Played against Yeah, didn't he heard it in the Miami game. 1312 01:07:51,440 --> 01:07:52,880 Speaker 3: It was in the New Orleans game when he like 1313 01:07:52,960 --> 01:07:54,840 Speaker 3: lit them up. Is when he actually like broke his 1314 01:07:55,040 --> 01:07:58,080 Speaker 3: hip or whatever he did. Okay, Yeah, anyway, I have Higgins' 1315 01:07:58,160 --> 01:08:01,160 Speaker 3: game logs pulled up. Once Chase out forty nine a 1316 01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:03,600 Speaker 3: touchdown against US seven for sixteen, nine for one forty 1317 01:08:03,640 --> 01:08:05,920 Speaker 3: eight seven for one to fourteen in a touchdown, and 1318 01:08:05,960 --> 01:08:07,800 Speaker 3: then he scored basically four straight weeks after that. 1319 01:08:08,680 --> 01:08:11,640 Speaker 2: He was when they needed him to be the guy, 1320 01:08:11,800 --> 01:08:17,040 Speaker 2: he was the guy. Yeah, for sure, he's a one. 1321 01:08:17,120 --> 01:08:21,280 Speaker 2: I mean he's a one, absolute one. Let me pull 1322 01:08:21,360 --> 01:08:21,840 Speaker 2: up the Chase. 1323 01:08:21,840 --> 01:08:23,120 Speaker 3: I'm trying to pull up the game. Let's see what 1324 01:08:23,400 --> 01:08:26,800 Speaker 3: he missed five. Yeah, yeah, so he missed those five. 1325 01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,160 Speaker 3: So that's where Higgins had back to back major hundred 1326 01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:30,719 Speaker 3: yard games. He scored four touchdowns. 1327 01:08:32,400 --> 01:08:35,200 Speaker 2: Chase had eighty seven for one thousand, forty six and 1328 01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 2: nine touchdowns in twelve game. 1329 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:42,800 Speaker 3: Twelve games. Yeah, yeah, and weird they fade him the 1330 01:08:42,880 --> 01:08:44,360 Speaker 3: ball to his bread. 1331 01:08:44,360 --> 01:08:45,120 Speaker 2: They have boys too. 1332 01:08:46,200 --> 01:08:48,960 Speaker 3: So his targets one hundred and thirty four targets in 1333 01:08:49,000 --> 01:08:49,599 Speaker 3: twelve games. 1334 01:08:49,760 --> 01:08:49,920 Speaker 2: YEA. 1335 01:08:50,120 --> 01:08:53,080 Speaker 3: His final four games fifteen thirteen, eleven to thirteen, he 1336 01:08:53,200 --> 01:08:55,240 Speaker 3: never had fewer than six targets in a game, and 1337 01:08:55,360 --> 01:08:57,679 Speaker 3: he never only had fewer than eight targets in game once. 1338 01:08:57,760 --> 01:08:59,880 Speaker 3: I mean that is you know you're going to. 1339 01:09:00,080 --> 01:09:02,960 Speaker 2: Produced when you get that kind of it's it's a action, 1340 01:09:03,240 --> 01:09:06,640 Speaker 2: it's a way that what you're seeing with guys like 1341 01:09:06,760 --> 01:09:10,560 Speaker 2: him and Jefferson and Adams, we saw this. With what 1342 01:09:10,680 --> 01:09:13,200 Speaker 2: you're seeing is you know, kind of like what you 1343 01:09:13,280 --> 01:09:16,120 Speaker 2: used to see with the running back where we got 1344 01:09:16,240 --> 01:09:18,200 Speaker 2: to get him these kind of touches. Yep, Like you 1345 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,200 Speaker 2: have to get these. These guys are electric. You have 1346 01:09:20,280 --> 01:09:22,640 Speaker 2: to get them these type of touches. Yep. You have 1347 01:09:22,840 --> 01:09:24,920 Speaker 2: to direct the ball in their direction this many times 1348 01:09:24,960 --> 01:09:25,799 Speaker 2: in order to have success. 1349 01:09:26,680 --> 01:09:28,280 Speaker 3: Our game was a beating, so they kind of like 1350 01:09:28,400 --> 01:09:30,040 Speaker 3: pull rained off. So you only had six. Started to 1351 01:09:30,040 --> 01:09:32,639 Speaker 3: talk about t Higgins, Yeah, and then the next three 1352 01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:36,679 Speaker 3: without Chase, he was targeted thirty times. He caught twenty 1353 01:09:36,760 --> 01:09:41,840 Speaker 3: three passes for three hundred and twenty two yards and 1354 01:09:42,080 --> 01:09:42,800 Speaker 3: two touchdowns. 1355 01:09:42,880 --> 01:09:46,400 Speaker 2: I mean he's a one. Yeah, there's like thirty five 1356 01:09:46,479 --> 01:09:49,840 Speaker 2: ones in the league. You got it and you gotta 1357 01:09:49,840 --> 01:09:52,200 Speaker 2: have and you really need two to really go, or 1358 01:09:52,240 --> 01:09:54,760 Speaker 2: you need mahomes and then you can just have Kelsey yep, 1359 01:09:55,720 --> 01:09:56,960 Speaker 2: and do it, do the rest of it the way 1360 01:09:56,960 --> 01:09:59,680 Speaker 2: that you want to do it. It's a it's a 1361 01:09:59,760 --> 01:10:01,800 Speaker 2: na embarrassment of riches at the position in the sport. 1362 01:10:01,880 --> 01:10:05,599 Speaker 2: It's never been this good. I promise you that. All right, 1363 01:10:05,760 --> 01:10:08,040 Speaker 2: coming up next we will get you set with Training 1364 01:10:08,080 --> 01:10:10,800 Speaker 2: Camp Final Edition. We'll take a look at the specialists. 1365 01:10:11,200 --> 01:10:13,080 Speaker 2: Cleveland Browns Daily fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1366 01:10:21,720 --> 01:10:24,639 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily, brought to you by bally Bet Coming 1367 01:10:24,760 --> 01:10:27,679 Speaker 1: soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN. 1368 01:10:27,800 --> 01:10:44,959 Speaker 2: Cleveland back by popular demand from your favorite four legged companion. 1369 01:10:45,080 --> 01:10:47,720 Speaker 2: Year two of Barking Backers presented by Milkbone, the Fan 1370 01:10:47,840 --> 01:10:50,760 Speaker 2: club for Dogs. View membership options and joined today at 1371 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:59,080 Speaker 2: Barkingbackers dot Com. Specialists. Now you're good. There you're on. 1372 01:10:59,280 --> 01:11:03,439 Speaker 3: There you go the specialists. Well, the truth of the 1373 01:11:03,479 --> 01:11:05,599 Speaker 3: matter is, we really don't know what this is gonna 1374 01:11:05,600 --> 01:11:07,240 Speaker 3: look like. We know a couple of things, right. We 1375 01:11:07,320 --> 01:11:09,479 Speaker 3: know our long snapper will be Charlie Hewlett. He is 1376 01:11:09,520 --> 01:11:11,800 Speaker 3: behind Joel Botonio is the longest tenured in Cleveland Brown. 1377 01:11:12,160 --> 01:11:14,320 Speaker 3: We know that our kicker will be Kade York, and 1378 01:11:14,520 --> 01:11:17,320 Speaker 3: I'm pretty sure ninety nine percent sure or ninety percent sure, 1379 01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:19,679 Speaker 3: our punter is going to be Corey bojorkis, Joseph Charlton 1380 01:11:19,840 --> 01:11:21,920 Speaker 3: is here, he was with us last year. Bejork has 1381 01:11:21,920 --> 01:11:23,479 Speaker 3: beat him. Ount Borg has had a very nice season 1382 01:11:23,520 --> 01:11:25,640 Speaker 3: for the Cleveland Brown, so it would lead me to 1383 01:11:25,720 --> 01:11:28,880 Speaker 3: believe that he will once again be the punter, So 1384 01:11:29,200 --> 01:11:32,400 Speaker 3: that battery should return for Bubba vn trone, who is 1385 01:11:32,520 --> 01:11:35,120 Speaker 3: gonna kind of let these guys be Let the kickers kick, 1386 01:11:35,280 --> 01:11:37,240 Speaker 3: let them, you know, from a technical standpoint, let them 1387 01:11:37,320 --> 01:11:39,360 Speaker 3: do what they do. And I think for a guy 1388 01:11:39,439 --> 01:11:40,920 Speaker 3: like Kaid York, I feel like that will be a 1389 01:11:41,000 --> 01:11:43,040 Speaker 3: beneficial thing and so excited to see how he does. 1390 01:11:43,120 --> 01:11:45,960 Speaker 3: But Borick as last year averaged forty eight and a 1391 01:11:45,960 --> 01:11:49,120 Speaker 3: half yards of punt forty eight point five net. He 1392 01:11:49,280 --> 01:11:52,479 Speaker 3: had along of seventy six twenty three inside the twenty 1393 01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:54,760 Speaker 3: and as I thought, as a season went on, he 1394 01:11:54,840 --> 01:11:57,400 Speaker 3: got better. So that directional punting he did was elite 1395 01:11:57,960 --> 01:12:02,200 Speaker 3: late in the season. Return guys, and this is the question, 1396 01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:05,599 Speaker 3: right last year, your top kick returner was Jerome Ford. 1397 01:12:06,520 --> 01:12:08,760 Speaker 3: He had thirty returns for seven hundred and twenty three 1398 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,200 Speaker 3: yards average twenty four yards a return forty eight was 1399 01:12:11,240 --> 01:12:13,920 Speaker 3: the long. And then you had as your punt returner 1400 01:12:14,280 --> 01:12:16,680 Speaker 3: Donovan Peoples Jones at eighteen returns for two hundred and 1401 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:20,000 Speaker 3: twenty three yards, including a touchdown seventy six yard, one 1402 01:12:20,000 --> 01:12:22,720 Speaker 3: of three punt return touchdowns in the league last year. 1403 01:12:23,200 --> 01:12:26,320 Speaker 3: Jakiem Grant was brought here to be that guy. Jakim 1404 01:12:26,360 --> 01:12:30,320 Speaker 3: Grant was brought here to be the punt returner and 1405 01:12:30,520 --> 01:12:32,679 Speaker 3: kick returnings. An All Pro, he was a Pro Bowler. 1406 01:12:33,120 --> 01:12:35,280 Speaker 3: He got injured when we had the joint practice with 1407 01:12:35,320 --> 01:12:38,800 Speaker 3: the Eagles, missed the whole season with his achilles. He 1408 01:12:39,040 --> 01:12:43,840 Speaker 3: is back. Is there a roster spot for a guy 1409 01:12:43,920 --> 01:12:48,479 Speaker 3: who was primarily a returner? I think is a valid question. Yeah, 1410 01:12:49,400 --> 01:12:54,800 Speaker 3: is does he do they think Jaquem Grant can maybe 1411 01:12:54,920 --> 01:12:57,639 Speaker 3: do some of the vertical things that a Marquise Goodwin does. 1412 01:12:58,240 --> 01:13:01,679 Speaker 3: Is David Bell maybe fighting for roster spot if Jakeem 1413 01:13:01,720 --> 01:13:03,720 Speaker 3: Grant is deemed more valuable and he's a third round 1414 01:13:03,720 --> 01:13:05,120 Speaker 3: pick a year ago, so I'd find that very very 1415 01:13:05,160 --> 01:13:07,559 Speaker 3: hard to believe that he would not be on this roster. 1416 01:13:07,640 --> 01:13:09,400 Speaker 3: I mean I kind of look at my six locks 1417 01:13:09,439 --> 01:13:11,800 Speaker 3: at the receiver position. I feel like they really truly 1418 01:13:11,880 --> 01:13:17,120 Speaker 3: are six locks. Yep Cooper, Donovan, Peoples, Jones, Elijah Moore, 1419 01:13:17,320 --> 01:13:21,360 Speaker 3: Goodwin Tillman, David Bell. Could there be seven? Maybe that's 1420 01:13:21,360 --> 01:13:24,439 Speaker 3: where jackem Grant is looking. I think Jalen Darden is lurking, 1421 01:13:24,560 --> 01:13:26,280 Speaker 3: and he's the guy who returned some kicks as well. 1422 01:13:26,720 --> 01:13:29,160 Speaker 3: But that's it. You know, who are your returners? I 1423 01:13:29,200 --> 01:13:32,760 Speaker 3: think those are the biggest questions going into the twenty 1424 01:13:32,800 --> 01:13:33,559 Speaker 3: twenty three season. 1425 01:13:34,280 --> 01:13:38,400 Speaker 2: What do you expere how how close you'd be watching 1426 01:13:38,400 --> 01:13:40,000 Speaker 2: Bubba Ventrone in his operation. 1427 01:13:40,640 --> 01:13:42,680 Speaker 3: I love Bubby, he walked by earlier. I'm a big 1428 01:13:42,720 --> 01:13:46,120 Speaker 3: Bubba Ventron guy. Obviously, we loved pre great friend of 1429 01:13:46,160 --> 01:13:49,360 Speaker 3: our program and certainly wish him nothing but the absolute best, 1430 01:13:50,200 --> 01:13:53,040 Speaker 3: and I'm gonna miss him. But I've liked Bubba so far. 1431 01:13:53,160 --> 01:13:55,560 Speaker 3: Our opportunity to talk with Bubba, I've thoroughly enjoyed that. 1432 01:13:56,120 --> 01:13:58,719 Speaker 3: Uh And you know, our special teams units have always 1433 01:13:58,760 --> 01:14:02,800 Speaker 3: been solid. We need him to be solid to even 1434 01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:04,479 Speaker 3: better than that. And I think a lot of that 1435 01:14:04,640 --> 01:14:06,880 Speaker 3: is going to come down to, you know, how we 1436 01:14:07,120 --> 01:14:11,920 Speaker 3: do kicking. I really think kayde Yorke and his performance 1437 01:14:11,960 --> 01:14:13,120 Speaker 3: is going to terminal a lot of how we feel 1438 01:14:13,160 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 3: about special teams. Can't give up any of those big returns, 1439 01:14:15,560 --> 01:14:17,720 Speaker 3: you know, you can't have what happened against Baltimore last year. 1440 01:14:17,800 --> 01:14:20,120 Speaker 3: But we did have a big return against the Houston 1441 01:14:20,120 --> 01:14:23,800 Speaker 3: Texans that helped us get that win. So I think, yeah, 1442 01:14:23,840 --> 01:14:25,600 Speaker 3: I'm going to be watching it. What I'm really going 1443 01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,479 Speaker 3: to be watching is who is there on the first 1444 01:14:28,520 --> 01:14:30,160 Speaker 3: and second teams to try to get an idea of 1445 01:14:30,320 --> 01:14:32,479 Speaker 3: you know, when they go in and make their case, 1446 01:14:32,520 --> 01:14:35,479 Speaker 3: well this guy's yeah, you know, to Andrew Barry in company, 1447 01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:38,280 Speaker 3: Well let this guy gives us an edge on special teams. 1448 01:14:39,040 --> 01:14:41,200 Speaker 3: You know, that's one of the things that I think 1449 01:14:41,240 --> 01:14:42,240 Speaker 3: we will be looking at. 1450 01:14:44,320 --> 01:14:46,960 Speaker 2: He is a he's like a human shot a red 1451 01:14:47,000 --> 01:14:50,160 Speaker 2: bull Bubba. Yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I mean he did it. 1452 01:14:50,280 --> 01:14:52,320 Speaker 3: This is what he did. He was You've got to 1453 01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:54,200 Speaker 3: be a little bit crazy to go after it and 1454 01:14:54,479 --> 01:14:56,519 Speaker 3: get after it as as a special teams guy, which 1455 01:14:56,560 --> 01:14:58,400 Speaker 3: he did. That's how he made his career in the 1456 01:14:58,479 --> 01:15:00,360 Speaker 3: National Football League. And now he's been a coach and 1457 01:15:00,520 --> 01:15:04,960 Speaker 3: was presided over incredibly successful special teams units there with 1458 01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,719 Speaker 3: the Indianapolis Colts. He had a couple of guys brought 1459 01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:11,280 Speaker 3: in that he knew in Matthew Adams, Mike Ford. So 1460 01:15:12,280 --> 01:15:14,240 Speaker 3: I think our special times unit will continue to be 1461 01:15:15,080 --> 01:15:16,800 Speaker 3: very good, and I think the goal is obviously to 1462 01:15:16,880 --> 01:15:19,120 Speaker 3: have it be elevated somewhat from years past. And I 1463 01:15:19,160 --> 01:15:21,400 Speaker 3: think for a lot of us that's gonna It's easy 1464 01:15:21,400 --> 01:15:23,400 Speaker 3: as a fan, it's much easier to digest, especially with 1465 01:15:23,479 --> 01:15:27,519 Speaker 3: the rule changes, you know, how how cade kicks. I 1466 01:15:27,560 --> 01:15:28,920 Speaker 3: think that's going to have a lot to do with 1467 01:15:29,120 --> 01:15:33,240 Speaker 3: ultimately how we feel about this about this football team 1468 01:15:33,600 --> 01:15:35,320 Speaker 3: and how we feel about the special teams unit on 1469 01:15:35,439 --> 01:15:36,080 Speaker 3: this football team. 1470 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:40,320 Speaker 2: Yeah, it's it's interesting, like how you go back to 1471 01:15:40,920 --> 01:15:42,880 Speaker 2: at the start, you think about that winner he hit 1472 01:15:43,240 --> 01:15:47,320 Speaker 2: against Carolina. You think about like what happened, what you 1473 01:15:47,360 --> 01:15:50,800 Speaker 2: would see in pre pregame with cad against the Bears, 1474 01:15:51,040 --> 01:15:54,720 Speaker 2: craziest stuff ever, And you just need him to be 1475 01:15:54,840 --> 01:15:55,120 Speaker 2: who he. 1476 01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,920 Speaker 3: Was drafted to be, right, And so what you're looking 1477 01:15:57,960 --> 01:16:00,880 Speaker 3: for there, right is consistency. That that's the name of 1478 01:16:00,920 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 3: the game when you're a kicker. He was twenty four 1479 01:16:03,040 --> 01:16:05,759 Speaker 3: or thirty two last year as a kicker. That's seventy 1480 01:16:05,800 --> 01:16:08,320 Speaker 3: five percent not going to do it now. The elite 1481 01:16:08,360 --> 01:16:10,519 Speaker 3: guys are in the ninety ninety five percent. Justin Tucker 1482 01:16:11,120 --> 01:16:14,599 Speaker 3: is way way up there right. So when you look 1483 01:16:14,640 --> 01:16:18,000 Speaker 3: at it from that standpoint, you say yourself, okay, you 1484 01:16:18,040 --> 01:16:20,360 Speaker 3: know where can we get better? And we started off 1485 01:16:20,439 --> 01:16:23,679 Speaker 3: on field goals started off really hot, four for four 1486 01:16:24,120 --> 01:16:26,599 Speaker 3: against the Carolina Panthers. You know, he started off making 1487 01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:31,519 Speaker 3: his first six eight kicks, but he missed an extra 1488 01:16:31,640 --> 01:16:35,680 Speaker 3: point against the Jets, which obviously proved to be a 1489 01:16:35,720 --> 01:16:38,840 Speaker 3: big one late. He then missed an extra point the 1490 01:16:38,920 --> 01:16:42,759 Speaker 3: following week against the Steelers, and then against the Chargers. 1491 01:16:43,200 --> 01:16:46,400 Speaker 3: He missed both field goal attempts and a game where 1492 01:16:46,479 --> 01:16:48,439 Speaker 3: that obviously could have mattered for us. He missed a 1493 01:16:48,479 --> 01:16:51,280 Speaker 3: game winning attempt against the Baltimore Ravens. He missed another 1494 01:16:51,320 --> 01:16:53,000 Speaker 3: one against the Bengals, but we ended up winning that 1495 01:16:53,080 --> 01:16:55,920 Speaker 3: game handily. He missed against the Buffalo Bills in a 1496 01:16:55,960 --> 01:16:58,760 Speaker 3: game that where that could have mattered. He missed one 1497 01:16:58,800 --> 01:17:01,439 Speaker 3: against Tampa. We fortunately were able to win that one. 1498 01:17:01,760 --> 01:17:04,200 Speaker 3: He missed two against Baltimore and our thirteen to three 1499 01:17:04,240 --> 01:17:07,519 Speaker 3: win over the Ravens, where obviously points were at a premium. 1500 01:17:07,960 --> 01:17:11,040 Speaker 3: So it's that consistency from CAID York is what I 1501 01:17:11,120 --> 01:17:13,320 Speaker 3: think we're really really looking for. 1502 01:17:13,960 --> 01:17:15,840 Speaker 2: And we just we saw it in the division and 1503 01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:17,880 Speaker 2: you see with a difference maker that it is. So 1504 01:17:19,280 --> 01:17:21,719 Speaker 2: that's a tricky part of that. You want some SCBD 1505 01:17:21,840 --> 01:17:22,519 Speaker 2: stuff I got for you. 1506 01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:24,120 Speaker 3: Yeah, we got some mess syt let's do it. 1507 01:17:25,680 --> 01:17:27,719 Speaker 2: I've scoured a few of these wee things, just real. 1508 01:17:27,680 --> 01:17:29,840 Speaker 3: Quick, yep. So CAID last year, you break it down, 1509 01:17:29,880 --> 01:17:31,800 Speaker 3: five of five from twenty to twenty nine, nine of 1510 01:17:31,920 --> 01:17:34,720 Speaker 3: twelve from thirty to thirty nine. Seventy five percent from 1511 01:17:34,760 --> 01:17:37,400 Speaker 3: thirty to thirty nine not good enough. That's got to 1512 01:17:37,439 --> 01:17:40,360 Speaker 3: be one hundred percent. Anything inside of forty yards that's 1513 01:17:40,400 --> 01:17:42,800 Speaker 3: got to be automatic. Choco man, those have to go. 1514 01:17:43,000 --> 01:17:45,360 Speaker 3: So he's got to get better there. Six of eight 1515 01:17:45,439 --> 01:17:48,240 Speaker 3: from forty you'd like it. That's you can live with that, 1516 01:17:48,360 --> 01:17:49,760 Speaker 3: but you'd like a little better than four to seven 1517 01:17:49,840 --> 01:17:51,800 Speaker 3: from fifty Again, you want to tighten that up a 1518 01:17:51,880 --> 01:17:54,080 Speaker 3: little bit as well. And then on the extra points 1519 01:17:54,840 --> 01:17:57,599 Speaker 3: he missed two on the season. Those got to be automatic. 1520 01:17:57,640 --> 01:17:59,080 Speaker 3: And I know it's not the same old extra point. 1521 01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,320 Speaker 3: It's really a thirty yard field goal, but his thirty 1522 01:18:01,400 --> 01:18:03,679 Speaker 3: yard field goals need to match up with that, which 1523 01:18:03,760 --> 01:18:04,639 Speaker 3: is ninety five percent. 1524 01:18:06,120 --> 01:18:08,080 Speaker 2: Here's the here's what you wanted, here's what you want 1525 01:18:08,160 --> 01:18:12,680 Speaker 2: out of a kicker. Don't ever think about them like 1526 01:18:13,680 --> 01:18:16,800 Speaker 2: the time, yep, Like, don't worry about extra points any 1527 01:18:16,920 --> 01:18:19,720 Speaker 2: all the chip shops automatic, those are all automatic. And 1528 01:18:19,800 --> 01:18:22,800 Speaker 2: then make half of the ones that are the critical ones. 1529 01:18:22,920 --> 01:18:24,960 Speaker 2: And if you make eighty percent of the critical ones, 1530 01:18:24,960 --> 01:18:28,280 Speaker 2: then you're elite. Make more than half and then then 1531 01:18:28,320 --> 01:18:31,080 Speaker 2: that's that's all that. Yes, ye, now you're going a 1532 01:18:31,120 --> 01:18:35,639 Speaker 2: little bit you Uh, the Buckeyes you going all it's 1533 01:18:35,640 --> 01:18:37,880 Speaker 2: a big uniform week Yeah, we have a lot of them. 1534 01:18:37,920 --> 01:18:40,120 Speaker 2: So the NFL ones were throughout today. I think the 1535 01:18:40,200 --> 01:18:43,720 Speaker 2: Oilers one is dropping this weekend. The type do you 1536 01:18:43,760 --> 01:18:46,360 Speaker 2: see JJ Watt saying it makes him sad and like that. 1537 01:18:46,520 --> 01:18:48,960 Speaker 2: They were like clapping back at him and he's like, dude, 1538 01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:53,000 Speaker 2: I played in Houston. Those uniforms mean so much to Houston. Yes, 1539 01:18:53,160 --> 01:18:54,439 Speaker 2: he's right, why are you wearing them? 1540 01:18:54,560 --> 01:18:54,600 Speaker 3: Like? 1541 01:18:54,920 --> 01:18:57,160 Speaker 2: He's exactly right. It's a correct beef. It's the It's 1542 01:18:57,160 --> 01:18:58,559 Speaker 2: the damnedest thing what they're doing there. 1543 01:18:58,600 --> 01:18:59,040 Speaker 3: It's absurd. 1544 01:18:59,520 --> 01:19:02,800 Speaker 2: The exchange ones are coming. I think next week, the 1545 01:19:02,920 --> 01:19:04,559 Speaker 2: Jets Ones from the Gas to No Era. 1546 01:19:04,800 --> 01:19:05,680 Speaker 3: Yeah those will be good. 1547 01:19:05,920 --> 01:19:08,120 Speaker 2: Yeah there those are not as good as the names, 1548 01:19:08,160 --> 01:19:12,680 Speaker 2: but they're now. Pennington wore them as well. The name 1549 01:19:12,760 --> 01:19:15,000 Speaker 2: is almost seemed like they were a brighter green, whereas 1550 01:19:15,040 --> 01:19:19,200 Speaker 2: when Pennington and those guys are there's a darker almost. 1551 01:19:19,240 --> 01:19:21,759 Speaker 2: Who else are we? There's a couple more we're waiting 1552 01:19:21,840 --> 01:19:25,080 Speaker 2: on out there. Apparently the Broncos are going to go 1553 01:19:25,160 --> 01:19:28,320 Speaker 2: all white. They're not doing what everybody wants and wearing 1554 01:19:28,400 --> 01:19:29,960 Speaker 2: the Always. I don't know why the heck you wouldn't 1555 01:19:30,000 --> 01:19:32,200 Speaker 2: wear the Always, but it sounds like I saw this 1556 01:19:32,320 --> 01:19:33,800 Speaker 2: morning they were gonna go with like some sort of 1557 01:19:33,800 --> 01:19:37,120 Speaker 2: an all white helmet and all white uniform, all white helmet, yeah, 1558 01:19:37,200 --> 01:19:39,799 Speaker 2: white helmet and like a with a like a white outlook. 1559 01:19:40,000 --> 01:19:41,599 Speaker 3: They need to go back to that logo. 1560 01:19:42,040 --> 01:19:46,840 Speaker 2: Of course, the whole thing all said go back. Yeah. Yeah, 1561 01:19:47,360 --> 01:19:50,200 Speaker 2: there's a couple more. There's one more out there. I 1562 01:19:50,240 --> 01:19:51,840 Speaker 2: don't remember what it is, but the Buck guys are 1563 01:19:51,840 --> 01:19:52,439 Speaker 2: gonna wear all. 1564 01:19:52,320 --> 01:19:53,800 Speaker 3: Waiting for the Colts to fix theirs. 1565 01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:56,360 Speaker 2: There's no fixing it. It's it'll be a one and off. 1566 01:19:57,080 --> 01:19:57,639 Speaker 3: It's awful. 1567 01:19:57,840 --> 01:20:00,400 Speaker 2: It does seem like the Falcons like a punted on 1568 01:20:00,400 --> 01:20:02,840 Speaker 2: their gradient uniforms, like they're just not gonna wear them 1569 01:20:02,840 --> 01:20:05,360 Speaker 2: anymore because they were so poorly received. That's kind of 1570 01:20:05,400 --> 01:20:06,840 Speaker 2: what I think will happen to this Colts one, Like 1571 01:20:06,880 --> 01:20:09,200 Speaker 2: you'll wear it once, it'll disappear, it's gone, that'll be it. 1572 01:20:10,479 --> 01:20:13,000 Speaker 2: Buckeyes in all gray. So I have long been a 1573 01:20:13,720 --> 01:20:15,800 Speaker 2: I don't even know, like how many non diehard fans 1574 01:20:15,840 --> 01:20:17,400 Speaker 2: are even aware of this. That you probably weren't until 1575 01:20:17,400 --> 01:20:19,960 Speaker 2: I made you aware of it. Ohio State's traditional home 1576 01:20:20,080 --> 01:20:23,080 Speaker 2: uniform that they wear now and have since Jim Tressel 1577 01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:25,160 Speaker 2: changed it in the two thousand and seven season, has 1578 01:20:25,280 --> 01:20:27,880 Speaker 2: no gray on it. There's no gray on the on 1579 01:20:27,960 --> 01:20:30,360 Speaker 2: the jersey. There's a gray pant, there's a gray hat, 1580 01:20:30,439 --> 01:20:32,560 Speaker 2: but there's no gray on the jerseys. They have a 1581 01:20:32,640 --> 01:20:35,280 Speaker 2: red stripe on a red jersey, which I always think 1582 01:20:35,320 --> 01:20:38,160 Speaker 2: is stupid and it reminds me of Wisconsin. So my 1583 01:20:38,320 --> 01:20:40,920 Speaker 2: beef has always been, you have a uniform with gray 1584 01:20:41,000 --> 01:20:43,720 Speaker 2: on the sleeves, it's gorgeous. They wear it for like 1585 01:20:43,840 --> 01:20:46,800 Speaker 2: the National Championship Game or the College Football Playoff, those 1586 01:20:46,840 --> 01:20:48,920 Speaker 2: type of things. So I'm always saying give me some 1587 01:20:49,000 --> 01:20:51,760 Speaker 2: more gray, some more gray. It feels to me like 1588 01:20:51,880 --> 01:20:53,320 Speaker 2: what they and a lot of the fans want the 1589 01:20:53,400 --> 01:20:55,519 Speaker 2: more gray. So they're going to wear a head to 1590 01:20:55,600 --> 01:20:59,800 Speaker 2: toe gray uniform next year this year against Michigan State's 1591 01:21:00,120 --> 01:21:02,360 Speaker 2: current uniform, just a gray colorway. So they've done this 1592 01:21:02,479 --> 01:21:04,760 Speaker 2: with black, which is fine. I'm not a big black 1593 01:21:04,800 --> 01:21:06,880 Speaker 2: for black's sake, but fine. It looks good. 1594 01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:07,240 Speaker 3: It does. 1595 01:21:07,560 --> 01:21:09,320 Speaker 2: Black looks good on everything. It's like a cheat code. 1596 01:21:09,800 --> 01:21:11,360 Speaker 2: And then the other one they have is an all white, 1597 01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:16,599 Speaker 2: which I love. Yeah, this feels to me like everybody 1598 01:21:16,680 --> 01:21:18,639 Speaker 2: in the fan base says I would like a bowl 1599 01:21:18,680 --> 01:21:23,840 Speaker 2: of ice cream, and Ohio States said, here's all the 1600 01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:26,600 Speaker 2: ice cream in the world. Each your way out of it. 1601 01:21:28,040 --> 01:21:33,080 Speaker 2: It's too damn much. That's what it seems like to me. Yeah, 1602 01:21:33,320 --> 01:21:35,120 Speaker 2: I'm sure it's a one off. They're gonna wear it 1603 01:21:35,120 --> 01:21:39,280 Speaker 2: with rate red shoes whatever, but it's I just think 1604 01:21:39,280 --> 01:21:40,760 Speaker 2: they could have solved all of it by just giving 1605 01:21:40,800 --> 01:21:42,519 Speaker 2: the fan base what it wants, which is just the 1606 01:21:42,560 --> 01:21:45,439 Speaker 2: way they're traditionally supposed to look. Agreed. 1607 01:21:47,080 --> 01:21:49,400 Speaker 3: I think of all the ones that I've seen, this 1608 01:21:49,479 --> 01:21:52,680 Speaker 3: would be my I prefer the traditional, the black, the 1609 01:21:52,760 --> 01:21:54,840 Speaker 3: white before the gray still not say it's not a 1610 01:21:54,880 --> 01:21:59,840 Speaker 3: cool unifse time it is, but it's not like whoa, yeah, 1611 01:22:01,080 --> 01:22:03,000 Speaker 3: all right, gray needs to be I think with a 1612 01:22:03,200 --> 01:22:07,240 Speaker 3: very particular set of colors that really pop. Like I again, 1613 01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:12,679 Speaker 3: I like the Tennessee gray with smoke grays, smoky grays, 1614 01:22:12,760 --> 01:22:15,560 Speaker 3: and then that that orange really pops off of it. 1615 01:22:15,960 --> 01:22:17,479 Speaker 2: Do you have it on your shirt you're wearing today? 1616 01:22:17,560 --> 01:22:19,719 Speaker 2: You have the gray polo with the bright orange. 1617 01:22:19,920 --> 01:22:21,800 Speaker 3: Like we could have a gray alternate that I think 1618 01:22:21,800 --> 01:22:23,840 Speaker 3: could look good. It agree like a very It would 1619 01:22:23,880 --> 01:22:26,160 Speaker 3: have to be more of a modern uniform obviously, but 1620 01:22:26,400 --> 01:22:27,960 Speaker 3: I think it could look good. 1621 01:22:27,920 --> 01:22:29,920 Speaker 2: With us well. In fact, gray we almost thought that's 1622 01:22:30,000 --> 01:22:32,360 Speaker 2: where we were. I was trying at one point lobbying 1623 01:22:32,439 --> 01:22:34,360 Speaker 2: for it. That was we were hopeful that's where it 1624 01:22:34,439 --> 01:22:34,880 Speaker 2: was going to go. 1625 01:22:35,880 --> 01:22:37,519 Speaker 3: That was such a great dark chocolate on that. 1626 01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:42,000 Speaker 2: You know, it was. Yeah, Yeah, I think gray is 1627 01:22:42,080 --> 01:22:44,679 Speaker 2: perfect as an accent color. Yeah, I think it's really nice. 1628 01:22:44,680 --> 01:22:46,400 Speaker 2: I think obviously looks good with Ohio State. I think 1629 01:22:46,400 --> 01:22:48,080 Speaker 2: it looks good in the Tennessee or like the way 1630 01:22:48,160 --> 01:22:51,639 Speaker 2: you have it now. Blue and gray is a little 1631 01:22:51,680 --> 01:22:55,920 Speaker 2: bit tougher the blues gotta go. But yeah, it's a 1632 01:22:56,000 --> 01:22:59,080 Speaker 2: lot of gray. It's a lot from them. Yeah, I 1633 01:22:59,160 --> 01:23:01,280 Speaker 2: got a couple here. My god, Bobby was busy. Estay, 1634 01:23:01,320 --> 01:23:03,040 Speaker 2: let's make sure we don't double up on any of these. 1635 01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:04,439 Speaker 2: We did that one. 1636 01:23:04,760 --> 01:23:08,120 Speaker 3: I have a little quick note, go ahead. The Giants 1637 01:23:08,160 --> 01:23:11,599 Speaker 3: are signing wide receiver Cole Beasley, reuniting with Brian Dables, 1638 01:23:11,680 --> 01:23:14,320 Speaker 3: former offensive coordinator with the Bills, and another veteran target. 1639 01:23:14,400 --> 01:23:16,840 Speaker 3: So they if you think about their team though, they've 1640 01:23:16,880 --> 01:23:19,959 Speaker 3: got a lot of people to potentially be slot receivers. 1641 01:23:20,000 --> 01:23:23,000 Speaker 3: There Wandale Robinson, who they drafted in the second round 1642 01:23:23,000 --> 01:23:27,600 Speaker 3: of Kentucky last year. They signed Paris Paris Campbell this offseason. 1643 01:23:28,720 --> 01:23:31,920 Speaker 3: They have Jamison Crowder, the veteran slot receiver. They added 1644 01:23:31,960 --> 01:23:34,080 Speaker 3: Cole Beasley, and they still have Sterling Shepherd who was 1645 01:23:34,400 --> 01:23:37,200 Speaker 3: one of their guys. Those guys are not all making 1646 01:23:37,240 --> 01:23:41,080 Speaker 3: that roster. No, Cole Beasley could be being brought into 1647 01:23:41,880 --> 01:23:46,040 Speaker 3: help kind of maybe help things out. 1648 01:23:48,920 --> 01:23:52,479 Speaker 2: Yeah, could be. Here's one from Bobby wants to know 1649 01:23:52,520 --> 01:23:54,160 Speaker 2: what's your favorite viral video? 1650 01:23:58,000 --> 01:24:02,200 Speaker 3: The ladies stomping grapes at Chateau Alone down in Atlanta. 1651 01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:04,360 Speaker 3: That's my favorite. 1652 01:24:04,600 --> 01:24:05,479 Speaker 2: That's it. That's it. 1653 01:24:06,000 --> 01:24:08,880 Speaker 3: I've watched that maybe a billion times, and I laugh 1654 01:24:08,960 --> 01:24:11,120 Speaker 3: harder every single time. 1655 01:24:11,840 --> 01:24:13,720 Speaker 2: Probably like do you know that one? 1656 01:24:14,000 --> 01:24:14,760 Speaker 3: When I say that to you, do. 1657 01:24:14,720 --> 01:24:16,080 Speaker 2: You know, I feel like I haven't seen it in 1658 01:24:16,400 --> 01:24:17,439 Speaker 2: a very very long time. 1659 01:24:17,479 --> 01:24:17,880 Speaker 3: We'll watch it. 1660 01:24:18,000 --> 01:24:20,360 Speaker 2: We'll watch it, and you're gonna love it. Probably one 1661 01:24:20,400 --> 01:24:24,040 Speaker 2: of the five hardest I've ever laughed is the one 1662 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:27,040 Speaker 2: that went viral of the little dude driving the NASCAR 1663 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:29,840 Speaker 2: go kart in downtown Cleveland that's reacting to the car 1664 01:24:29,960 --> 01:24:32,200 Speaker 2: wreck and the play by play from the two dudes, 1665 01:24:33,840 --> 01:24:36,560 Speaker 2: the which one remember the like the little valveline, like 1666 01:24:36,640 --> 01:24:40,360 Speaker 2: the little white car driving around? Yes, yes, that one is. 1667 01:24:40,720 --> 01:24:43,400 Speaker 3: That one is very good. That's a great Cleveland one. 1668 01:24:43,640 --> 01:24:43,920 Speaker 1: That one. 1669 01:24:44,200 --> 01:24:47,080 Speaker 2: That one, to me is that's so perfect. 1670 01:24:47,240 --> 01:24:50,400 Speaker 3: I'm following on Instagram it's like I'm from Cleveland or 1671 01:24:50,439 --> 01:24:54,200 Speaker 3: something like that, and it's all like Cleveland based either 1672 01:24:54,240 --> 01:24:56,360 Speaker 3: cool things are going on in Cleveland or viral videos 1673 01:24:56,640 --> 01:24:59,160 Speaker 3: for like forever, Like there's one of the news Guy 1674 01:24:59,160 --> 01:25:01,040 Speaker 3: where the guy was given the news guy a little 1675 01:25:01,080 --> 01:25:02,559 Speaker 3: bit of a hard time and he went the news 1676 01:25:02,600 --> 01:25:04,559 Speaker 3: guy went off and there's some good stuff on there. 1677 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,760 Speaker 3: You would if you were on the gram. You would 1678 01:25:06,760 --> 01:25:09,400 Speaker 3: have enjoyed it. You'd have enjoyed it. Yeah, that one 1679 01:25:09,479 --> 01:25:12,640 Speaker 3: was good. Grape Crush faultlant you. As soon as you 1680 01:25:12,720 --> 01:25:14,080 Speaker 3: type grape into YouTube, its something that. 1681 01:25:14,320 --> 01:25:16,120 Speaker 2: First thing comes up. That's incredible, billion hits. 1682 01:25:16,200 --> 01:25:16,920 Speaker 3: That's incredible. 1683 01:25:17,080 --> 01:25:17,400 Speaker 2: All right? 1684 01:25:17,680 --> 01:25:17,800 Speaker 1: Uh? 1685 01:25:17,920 --> 01:25:20,080 Speaker 2: What music are people surprised to learn that you like? 1686 01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:23,360 Speaker 3: I think I like it all, Baby, I like it all. 1687 01:25:23,920 --> 01:25:27,080 Speaker 3: There isn't a kind that I don't like. Really, I'm 1688 01:25:27,120 --> 01:25:30,160 Speaker 3: a big swiftie. I'm not afraid to say it. Partially 1689 01:25:30,200 --> 01:25:33,160 Speaker 3: because my kids, and like, when I'm with kids, that 1690 01:25:33,320 --> 01:25:34,720 Speaker 3: is they demand that's all. 1691 01:25:34,880 --> 01:25:35,760 Speaker 2: That's what all they want is that. 1692 01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:38,240 Speaker 3: Yeah, and she has such a complete catalog, but honestly, goodness, 1693 01:25:39,000 --> 01:25:40,320 Speaker 3: you really never get tired of it. 1694 01:25:40,400 --> 01:25:44,599 Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I did even have a hard time songs. 1695 01:25:44,640 --> 01:25:45,920 Speaker 3: I think I'd have a hard time playing together like 1696 01:25:46,000 --> 01:25:48,679 Speaker 3: my top twenty, not because I couldn't name twenty songs, 1697 01:25:48,720 --> 01:25:50,000 Speaker 3: because there are so many good songs. 1698 01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:52,280 Speaker 2: I don't think I could name more than four of 1699 01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:56,719 Speaker 2: her songs. Maybe, but I think that I I find 1700 01:25:56,760 --> 01:25:59,800 Speaker 2: myself gravitating towards like country music. 1701 01:25:59,840 --> 01:26:01,200 Speaker 3: Now, Oh god, I got which is? 1702 01:26:01,360 --> 01:26:03,880 Speaker 2: Which is you want to want? It's only forty play 1703 01:26:04,400 --> 01:26:05,360 Speaker 2: by play while we're on the air. 1704 01:26:05,479 --> 01:26:05,839 Speaker 3: Perfect. 1705 01:26:05,920 --> 01:26:07,439 Speaker 2: All right, So I don't know if I've seen this 1706 01:26:07,560 --> 01:26:08,960 Speaker 2: or if I have, it's been a long long time. 1707 01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:13,479 Speaker 2: You definitely feel like i'll know right away. It's okay. 1708 01:26:13,520 --> 01:26:17,400 Speaker 2: So grapes, they're they're gonna and they're on like they're 1709 01:26:17,439 --> 01:26:19,880 Speaker 2: on a It looks like they're on a Okay, they're 1710 01:26:19,920 --> 01:26:21,840 Speaker 2: on a platform because they and then. 1711 01:26:21,760 --> 01:26:22,599 Speaker 3: The juice goes down. 1712 01:26:22,680 --> 01:26:26,960 Speaker 2: You've never seen that. I've never seen this. Okay, so 1713 01:26:27,080 --> 01:26:29,519 Speaker 2: we're still the heck out of the grapes. She's very vigorous. 1714 01:26:29,720 --> 01:26:33,680 Speaker 3: Oh boy, Oh wait, wait till they got the news. 1715 01:26:37,040 --> 01:26:41,400 Speaker 2: Oh she's in a lot of pain. She can't breathe you. 1716 01:26:41,600 --> 01:26:44,559 Speaker 3: Oh, did they go back to the Newspeople yet? Yeah? 1717 01:26:45,280 --> 01:26:47,760 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, I think she is. 1718 01:26:50,360 --> 01:26:54,559 Speaker 3: That's local Atlantic. Yeah, that one's my favorite. Well, don't forget. 1719 01:26:54,640 --> 01:26:56,720 Speaker 3: Let's why did this happen? This is let's for the kids. 1720 01:26:56,760 --> 01:26:59,320 Speaker 3: She does extra, she tries to get some extra in. Yeah, 1721 01:27:00,000 --> 01:27:02,280 Speaker 3: and then our sounds of the agony are great. 1722 01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:05,280 Speaker 2: Agony are pretty remarkable. Yeah, we can't do the play 1723 01:27:05,360 --> 01:27:07,360 Speaker 2: by play of my little Guy in the valve Lean. No, 1724 01:27:07,640 --> 01:27:10,680 Speaker 2: that's that we can't do this is that. I'd love that. 1725 01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:14,080 Speaker 3: Just they go back. Oh no, oh dear, I think 1726 01:27:14,120 --> 01:27:14,640 Speaker 3: she might know. 1727 01:27:14,800 --> 01:27:18,200 Speaker 2: I think she is, dude, that I was in that business. 1728 01:27:18,280 --> 01:27:20,400 Speaker 2: I was in that business. It's an that was. That's 1729 01:27:20,439 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 2: a crazy business. Not great. Oh buddy, all right, so 1730 01:27:28,200 --> 01:27:30,000 Speaker 2: much more to come. You listen to Cleveland Browns Daily, 1731 01:27:30,320 --> 01:27:32,160 Speaker 2: brought to you by bally Bet, a Sports Benning partner, 1732 01:27:32,160 --> 01:27:34,080 Speaker 2: your Cleveland Brown's Coming Soon to Ohio and eight fifty 1733 01:27:34,200 --> 01:27:35,280 Speaker 2: ESPN Cleveland. 1734 01:27:39,520 --> 01:27:42,439 Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns Daily brought to you by bally Bet Coming 1735 01:27:42,520 --> 01:27:46,080 Speaker 1: Soon to Ohio on eight fifty ESPN Cleveland. 1736 01:27:52,800 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 2: Well, it's all real tomorrow, brother, you'll be on the 1737 01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:56,080 Speaker 2: flight down. 1738 01:27:57,040 --> 01:28:00,880 Speaker 3: Oh baby, go time, real real, I'll be in that 1739 01:28:01,000 --> 01:28:01,599 Speaker 3: wheels up. 1740 01:28:03,120 --> 01:28:05,040 Speaker 2: You'll be there by probably ten o'clock. 1741 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,960 Speaker 3: You'll wheels up in basically seventeen hours. 1742 01:28:08,240 --> 01:28:12,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, are they Well, maybe the don't want to divulge, 1743 01:28:12,720 --> 01:28:14,800 Speaker 2: but there's there's not a landing strip there for a 1744 01:28:15,000 --> 01:28:19,240 Speaker 2: plane of that size. So you're gonna go like Louisbourg. Okay, 1745 01:28:19,720 --> 01:28:21,640 Speaker 2: should go there and then they'll shove it up. 1746 01:28:21,760 --> 01:28:24,800 Speaker 3: But there's a there's a there's a strip that's within 1747 01:28:24,840 --> 01:28:25,360 Speaker 3: a half hour. 1748 01:28:25,360 --> 01:28:29,680 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, yeah, it's it's interesting. This is going 1749 01:28:29,760 --> 01:28:32,120 Speaker 2: to be a What what coach Stefanski is trying to 1750 01:28:32,160 --> 01:28:34,439 Speaker 2: do here is build the team kids, That's what he's 1751 01:28:34,479 --> 01:28:36,080 Speaker 2: trying to do. He's trying to get them to a 1752 01:28:36,200 --> 01:28:38,800 Speaker 2: place where they can all bond together. He's trying to 1753 01:28:38,920 --> 01:28:43,080 Speaker 2: keep camp from being monotonous because it's extra long, and 1754 01:28:43,280 --> 01:28:44,840 Speaker 2: add a little bit of spice to it, and I 1755 01:28:44,920 --> 01:28:47,040 Speaker 2: think he'll be successful in that part of it. I 1756 01:28:47,120 --> 01:28:49,000 Speaker 2: do think that there's an opportunity here for this to 1757 01:28:49,080 --> 01:28:51,360 Speaker 2: feel like there's a reason this worked for so long 1758 01:28:51,640 --> 01:28:53,960 Speaker 2: that you go to I mean the Steelers forever. They 1759 01:28:54,000 --> 01:28:56,479 Speaker 2: still do, don't They go to the Trobe. Yeah, they 1760 01:28:56,560 --> 01:28:58,600 Speaker 2: go out there and camp it up. That's this is 1761 01:28:58,640 --> 01:29:00,600 Speaker 2: what every NFL team used to do. They wouldn't do 1762 01:29:00,640 --> 01:29:03,800 Speaker 2: it at their facility. They'd go someplace like this, not 1763 01:29:03,880 --> 01:29:06,439 Speaker 2: a five star resort, but a college campus and they 1764 01:29:06,439 --> 01:29:08,280 Speaker 2: would they would go there and they would get away 1765 01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:10,439 Speaker 2: from it all and camp up. So there will be 1766 01:29:10,880 --> 01:29:12,720 Speaker 2: a little nostalgia that I think works for a lot 1767 01:29:12,760 --> 01:29:15,720 Speaker 2: of our guys. And I think you're you got an 1768 01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:20,839 Speaker 2: opportunity with Deshaun to to a full camp without anything. 1769 01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:21,679 Speaker 2: It's going to be fun. 1770 01:29:22,000 --> 01:29:23,680 Speaker 3: I think it'd be a lot of fun. I'm excited to, 1771 01:29:23,800 --> 01:29:25,479 Speaker 3: you know, excited to get up there, excited to see 1772 01:29:25,640 --> 01:29:28,519 Speaker 3: how it is, and it's gonna make this fly by. 1773 01:29:28,720 --> 01:29:30,880 Speaker 3: I think in some ways, well, eight days in the 1774 01:29:30,920 --> 01:29:33,200 Speaker 3: Green Bar could end up ultimately seem like a long time. 1775 01:29:33,680 --> 01:29:35,519 Speaker 3: You're gonna have that, You're going to be back. Hall 1776 01:29:35,560 --> 01:29:37,959 Speaker 3: of Fame game is gonna be played that the following Thursday. 1777 01:29:38,240 --> 01:29:40,479 Speaker 3: Then you have one week of normalcy here, you take 1778 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:42,880 Speaker 3: on the Commanders. Then that Sunday you go to Philly 1779 01:29:43,200 --> 01:29:46,280 Speaker 3: for the joint practices, play that game, come back Kansas City, 1780 01:29:46,920 --> 01:29:48,680 Speaker 3: come back, and you go to Kansas City, and that's it. 1781 01:29:48,880 --> 01:29:49,360 Speaker 2: Now you're done. 1782 01:29:49,520 --> 01:29:51,160 Speaker 3: Then you're done. We're through August and all of a 1783 01:29:51,160 --> 01:29:53,280 Speaker 3: sudden we're getting ready to play the Bengals, which is 1784 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:56,360 Speaker 3: what we're all waiting for. Have fun down there, buddy, 1785 01:29:56,360 --> 01:29:57,000 Speaker 3: I'm gonna miss you. 1786 01:29:57,160 --> 01:29:58,639 Speaker 2: I'll miss you too. Well, we'll still do the show, 1787 01:29:58,680 --> 01:30:01,840 Speaker 2: but we'll be different locations. The next level is coming 1788 01:30:01,920 --> 01:30:03,680 Speaker 2: up next. 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