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Speaker 2: No declarations from last night's game. Okay, I know we

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Speaker 2: love to do the standalone and I'm going to give

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Speaker 2: you my opinion. And this is an opinion that you

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Speaker 2: can put in ink, not pencil, you know, because we

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Speaker 2: would have said what last night? There were a couple

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Speaker 2: of things. It could have been. Matthew Stafford solidified the

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Speaker 2: MVP rams to the team to beat in the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Oh Seattle at home, Sam Donald, they're frauds. It could

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Speaker 2: have gone a couple of different ways last night. It's

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Speaker 2: wild how it ended. I even joked yesterday the game

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Speaker 2: was too big for Thursday night. It actually took Thursday

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Speaker 2: night to Friday morning in some parts of the country.

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Speaker 2: But Seattle gets the win in overtime thirty eight thirty seven.

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Speaker 2: But if Seattle would lost that game, what would we

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Speaker 2: be saying today? Because keep in mind, Seattle nearly won

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Speaker 2: the first game between these two when Sam Darnald threw

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Speaker 2: four interceptions. They had three turnovers last night, and they

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Speaker 2: still won the game. Matthew Stafford threw for four hundred

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Speaker 2: and fifty yards. Phoka Nakua had twelve catches, two, one

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Speaker 2: hundred and twenty five yards like you're going, and Seattle's

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Speaker 2: still going to win this game. And the Rams didn't

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Speaker 2: have any turnovers. There were you know, there were no

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Speaker 2: interceptions by Stafford. See you're looking at it's thirty to fourteen.

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Speaker 2: You go, yeah, all right, Rams are a better team.

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Speaker 2: Seattle was stayed in there, you know, the defense when

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Speaker 2: they needed to came up with some really big plays.

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Speaker 2: Now did you get some ricochets there? Did you get

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Speaker 2: some bounces? Yes, you got old of those things. The

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Speaker 2: punt return to me was really big. But Seattle goes

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Speaker 2: for two. Here's their head coach, Mike McDonald.

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Speaker 3: Fall was something we had talked about probably throughout the

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Speaker 3: season and then really particularly for this game because of

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Speaker 3: the playoff situation. You know, you play for the tie,

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Speaker 3: you know, make the lock ofup a play off seed.

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Speaker 3: But I just felt like, I just felt great about

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Speaker 3: our play and I trusted our guys and to clinch

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Speaker 3: credit to he was really confident, and then the players

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Speaker 3: ultimately make it happen. So once we got that drive going,

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Speaker 3: it was pretty clear on what we're.

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Speaker 4: Going to do.

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Speaker 2: I loved it, but I don't have to answer to

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Speaker 2: the media. But I did love it. You're at home,

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Speaker 2: you felt good the comeback, and let's take advantage of this.

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Speaker 2: So the records after last night, Seattle's twelve and three.

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Speaker 2: La Is eleven and four. Who do you think is

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Speaker 2: the favorite right now for the Super Bowl? According to

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Speaker 2: DraftKings this morning just got the Super Bowl ons. The

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Speaker 2: Rams are still the team to beat in the NFC.

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Speaker 2: In the NFL, then it's the Seahawks, then it's the Broncos, Bills, Eagles,

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Speaker 2: and Texans. So we want to make it a statement game,

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Speaker 2: a statement win. But this is this is about two

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Speaker 2: teams that took advantage when they needed to and Seattle

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Speaker 2: had the last chance to take advantage and they end

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Speaker 2: up winning.

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Speaker 4: But it was great.

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Speaker 2: It was a great game, back and forth. You may

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Speaker 2: get home field advantage. Now do I still have questions

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Speaker 2: about Sam Darnold? I do I think they won maybe

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Speaker 2: in spite of him. They almost won in spite of

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Speaker 2: him the first time against the Rams, and Stafford looked great,

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Speaker 2: Phukan Nakua look great. But you know, Seattle ran the

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Speaker 2: football and came up with a couple of big stumps,

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Speaker 2: and that's what you want. Get a couple of three

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Speaker 2: and outs and then try to make them pay. But

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Speaker 2: it was It was wonderful to watch that game. A

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Speaker 2: lot of fun back and forth. All Right, so you

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Speaker 2: got college football coming up, Alabama and Oklahoma on a

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Speaker 2: Friday night, and we're going to look at some of

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Speaker 2: the different scenarios of if Miami gets blown out. What

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Speaker 2: are people going to say, if Alabama would get blown out,

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Speaker 2: what could happen to their head coach? What if Tulane

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Speaker 2: shocks old and then we go, well, they should have

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Speaker 2: kept Lane Kiffin in there. James Madison against Oregon. Everybody

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Speaker 2: has already made their declaration. Oregon's gonna win, but by

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Speaker 2: how much? Now, all I can tell you is I

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Speaker 2: watch jmu play twice this year. That defense is really good,

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Speaker 2: and this might be a situation where Oregon eventually wins,

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Speaker 2: but James Madison keeps it close. Oregon. Oregon's starting slow,

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Speaker 2: maybe a first half cover. I don't know what that

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Speaker 2: number is, but James Madison's going in. This is everything

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Speaker 2: to James Madison. Oregon is probably looking at this as

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Speaker 2: all right, who do we have after James Madison. I'm

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Speaker 2: not saying that they're going to shock the world, but

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Speaker 2: I hope we're surprised at how well James Madison can play.

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Speaker 2: It's been a good program here for the last couple

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Speaker 2: of years. And yes, is this a tall task. Absolutely

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Speaker 2: to lane against old miss. Absolutely. And Nick Saban came

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Speaker 2: out out and said, you know, we shouldn't even have

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Speaker 2: these smaller schools like you don't take a tripa a

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Speaker 2: And I was surprised and disappointed that Nick said that,

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Speaker 2: because you're supposed to be kind of a steward of

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Speaker 2: the game. Now you're not at Alabama, you're on college

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Speaker 2: game day. And it's not like James Madison and Tulane

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Speaker 2: created this format. It's all these so called smart people

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Speaker 2: who created this format. I do have an update on

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Speaker 2: a playoff format for next year, Okay, I'm going to

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Speaker 2: do that after the break, And there's a couple of

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Speaker 2: things in there that you should know, a couple of

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Speaker 2: surprises that I found out yesterday. But I said, we're

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Speaker 2: going to fourteen or sixteen next year, and it looks

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Speaker 2: like they've already agreed to that. But I'll give you

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Speaker 2: some of the details on the new playoff format and

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Speaker 2: Notre Dame will be in the playoff picture if they

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Speaker 2: finish in the top twelve. But you know, we don't

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Speaker 2: want upsets in football, but man, do we crave upsets

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Speaker 2: with march badness. I give If JMU was playing Oregon

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Speaker 2: and it was basketball and Oregon was one of the

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Speaker 2: top five teams, we'd be like, man, JMU can pull

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Speaker 2: this off, that would be great. Or if Tulane's playing

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Speaker 2: Old Miss and Old Miss is a top ten team

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Speaker 2: or a number four seed overall, we'd be like, Tulane

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Speaker 2: just pulled off a shaker there. But when it gets

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Speaker 2: to college football, we don't we want shock. We don't

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Speaker 2: know surprises here. Don't do that to us.

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Speaker 5: Yes, Marvin, I think because it's a numbers game, because

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Speaker 5: there's so many teams in the NCAA tournament. All right,

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Speaker 5: great Michigan State got knocked out in the first round,

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Speaker 5: but guess what I still got Duke Carolina, yukon UCLA.

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Speaker 5: In college football, it's not like that. There's only twelve

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Speaker 5: of those teams, So you don't want one of those

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Speaker 5: big dogs like Oregon early Canada for most must win

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Speaker 5: game a weekend. This can change everything. If JAMU wins

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Speaker 5: all the small school's going forward. Yeah, look we belong.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but in basketball, you can get hot, you know,

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Speaker 2: get some magic there. In college basketball, it's really difficult

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Speaker 2: to shock somebody in college football, especially when you're playing

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Speaker 2: at their home stadium. But I hope that they I

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Speaker 2: hope that they're able to play in a way that

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Speaker 2: they're proud no matter what the end result is, because yes,

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Speaker 2: do I like these kind of stories.

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Speaker 4: I do.

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Speaker 2: Should Notre Dame be in instead of JMU or Tulane, Absolutely,

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Speaker 2: but JMU and Tulaine shouldn't be punished for something that

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Speaker 2: college football and their committee came up with. I mean,

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Speaker 2: they earned it. It's not like they go, you know what,

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Speaker 2: this is a sponsor's exemption and it's a golf tournament, like, hey,

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Speaker 2: you can come on in. That's not what happened. They

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Speaker 2: did what they were supposed to do. Do I like it? No,

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Speaker 2: I'd like to see Notre Dame in there, because Notre

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Speaker 2: Dame could win the national title. I think they're that good. Good.

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Speaker 2: They didn't get in, So we move on and now

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Speaker 2: you got these games coming up tonight. But guaranteed you're

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Speaker 2: gonna get the now they never should have been in

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Speaker 2: told you, okay, told who tell the committee they came

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Speaker 2: up with this. It's like tulaane, you know, man, I

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Speaker 2: just I'm disappointed. Nick Saban should say, hey, they did

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Speaker 2: what they were supposed to do and maybe they changed

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Speaker 2: the format, but let's let's welcome them. Let's see what

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Speaker 2: they can do. That's what I wanted to hear out

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Speaker 2: of Nick Saban instead of you know what we didn't

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Speaker 2: you don't invite a triple A team. You know, you

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Speaker 2: know you don't invite it. Yeah, we know all of that.

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Speaker 2: But they did what they were supposed to do, what

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Speaker 2: they were asked to do, and I hope that they

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Speaker 2: maybe when maybe shock the world. Uh seatan what's poll

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Speaker 2: question for the first hour of the program? Yeah, wan

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Speaker 2: to here from Paul. If your life depended on it,

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Speaker 2: this one catch you're taking Justin Jefferson, Jamar Chase Jackson

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Speaker 2: Smith and Jigba or Pooka Nakula. I'm taking Pooka Akua

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Speaker 2: recency bias.

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Speaker 6: He is getting silly with his catches.

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Speaker 2: Yes he if it's if it's around him. It's it's his.

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Speaker 2: Even when it's not around him, it's it's his. He's

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Speaker 2: I never worry about him on the field, it's off

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Speaker 2: the field. He was criticizing the officials last night right

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Speaker 2: after the game, and I'm going didn't do the proposed

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Speaker 2: celebration that maybe he was gonna get in trouble for

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Speaker 2: me anti Semitic, that was.

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Speaker 6: That was good that he avoided that.

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Speaker 7: A boy.

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Speaker 2: Uh here's Sean McVeigh talking about Pooka Nakua's comments after

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Speaker 4: He was very apologetic.

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Speaker 8: I don't think he understood the totality of some of

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Speaker 8: the things. I think he issued that apology. You know,

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Speaker 8: this guy's heart and for anybody that was offended, terribly

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Speaker 8: sorry about that. I know he feels that same exact way.

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Speaker 4: As a young guy.

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Speaker 8: There's a great kid that's continuing to learn about you know,

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Speaker 8: just the platform that he has.

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Speaker 3: I love him.

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Speaker 8: We're going to continue to put an arm around him

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Speaker 8: and help him learn and grow. But we never want

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Speaker 8: to do things that ever offend anybody. And I know

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Speaker 8: he feels that same way.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's talking about the video that he did

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Speaker 2: on a podcast after the game last night. He was

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Speaker 2: critical of the referees, and now's when the NFL's got

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Speaker 2: to find him. Now they will. By the way, Most

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Speaker 2: We will tabulate your votes and Tuesday, Tuesday, in the

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Speaker 2: final hour of the program, Oh boy, that's when we

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Speaker 2: make the big announcement, big reveal, and also the most

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Speaker 2: Valuable backroom guy as well. There's only thirteen people, twelve

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Speaker 2: really close vote, and I'm the one that's voting. It's

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Speaker 2: and it may shock people. I'm just going to say that.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if the most Valuable Least Valuable is

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Speaker 2: going to shock anybody, but there's always that possibility. That's

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Speaker 2: a fan vote. Okay, I'm not involved in that. I

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Speaker 2: up to the audience. Most valuable least valuable, Danett, I think, Pritzy,

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Speaker 2: you've wanted a couple of times now.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, taking on both of those.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, that's the rollercoaster, rioty emotions that come with these prizes, yes, Paul.

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Speaker 10: So is there anything else any of us can do

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Speaker 2: I don't know, ton On't you go back and say

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Speaker 2: No, you do go back to do your stand up act.

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Speaker 2: Yes, but I all walk by and Mario and Anthony

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Speaker 9: I have my little notebok. I'll cross out things that

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Speaker 10: I think we did this with Isaiah Pacheco, the most

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Speaker 2: But this was like Cooper Cup and to see him

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Speaker 2: And you saw that again last night.

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Speaker 2: Lewis Riddick of the Mothership ESPN NFL college football analyst,

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Speaker 2: He'll be on the call. He's got James Madison and

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Speaker 2: Oregon kick off at seven thirty eastern on TNT. All right,

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Speaker 2: where do you want to start? You want to start

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Speaker 4: Now? Hey man, you know me, Dan, I'll go wherever

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Speaker 2: For the people who don't believe in James Madison, you

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Speaker 4: Well, I would say this. Look, defensively, this football team

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Speaker 4: then look, I mean JM you can really run the football.

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Speaker 4: But that's why you play the games, man, That's why

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Speaker 2: I don't know what you thought about Nick Saban's comments

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Speaker 2: JMU and Tulane didn't create this scenario. They took advantage

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Speaker 4: We know that JMU and two Lane probably you know,

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Speaker 4: They couldn't they still they they still haven't figured out

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Speaker 4: the right people. Next thing, you know, he wins a

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Speaker 4: super Bowl and now he's gonna probably win the MVP.

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Speaker 4: But I think with Sam, Sam's in the right spot

433
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Speaker 4: right now, he's in the right spot with coach McDonald's,

434
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Speaker 4: he's in the right spot with Clint kobe A last

435
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Speaker 4: night could be a turning point game for him. I

436
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Speaker 4: really do and I hope it is.

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Speaker 2: I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago with Pooka Nakua.

438
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Speaker 2: There's football speed and there's track speed. Yeah, he football speed. Question,

439
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Speaker 2: I don't know what you know, like Jerry Rice, like

440
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Speaker 2: where you go and there's I think there's similarities and

441
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Speaker 2: that he he seems to always be fast enough and

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Speaker 2: if it's in his radius, he's catching it. So it's

443
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Speaker 2: a former defensive back. Yeah, what would you be trying

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Speaker 2: to do with him?

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Speaker 4: A lot of times what you saw last night with

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Speaker 4: Pooka is Look, I've been beating this drum since I

447
00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:32,919
Speaker 4: started on TV back in twenty thirteen. Free access to

448
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:35,640
Speaker 4: wide receivers off the line of scrimmage. You're asking for it.

449
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Speaker 4: You're asking to get your rear end ripped by teams

450
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Speaker 4: that can scheme you up and instinctive wide receivers who

451
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Speaker 4: are in lockstep with their quarterback if you let them

452
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Speaker 4: play seven on seven, which a lot of the game intoday,

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Speaker 4: Phill and I'm not the get off my long guy.

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Speaker 4: I get it. The game is a vault. We're trying

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Speaker 4: to protect players all that, but a lot of the

456
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Speaker 4: game now is geared towards allowing wide receivers and quarterbacks

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Speaker 4: to put up Star Wars type numbers. One of the

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Speaker 4: things that you still have at your disposal though, as

459
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Speaker 4: a defense is the is the whole idea of the

460
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Speaker 4: disruption of timing and rhythm of a pass if you

461
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Speaker 4: don't disrupt the timing and rhythm of the rams passing game.

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Speaker 4: Puka and Matthew Stafford they meet every morning at like

463
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Speaker 4: four or five am, the same thing he used to

464
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Speaker 4: do with Cooper Cup and Puka is so damn instinctive

465
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Speaker 4: and as you're talking about, has such great functional strength

466
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Speaker 4: and speed. And Matthew is this first ballot lock you know,

467
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Speaker 4: sure fire Hall of Fame type caliber quarterback that if

468
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Speaker 4: you allow them to just come off the line, use

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Speaker 4: their motions and shifts, find the zone voids, and you're

470
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Speaker 4: gonna sit there and you don't disguise your coverage as well,

471
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Speaker 4: or you have miscommunications in the back end, and you

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Speaker 4: allowed Puka to just work his magic in between the numbers,

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Speaker 4: in particular on those deep end cuts that you saw

474
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Speaker 4: him running last night where he's catching and then he's

475
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Speaker 4: off to the races. You're gonna wind up giving up

476
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Speaker 4: two hundred and twenty five yards receiving to a single guy.

477
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Speaker 4: You've got to you know, you know who, And I

478
00:24:02,119 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 4: know this is a dude who's always is in the

479
00:24:03,880 --> 00:24:05,879
Speaker 4: media more time than not now for the wrong reasons

480
00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 4: or for reasons that don't involve football. But Bill Belichick

481
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Speaker 4: was the very best, and even at the you know,

482
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Speaker 4: in the in the later moments of his career in

483
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Speaker 4: New England, still understood that and made defenses execute those

484
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Speaker 4: kinds of things, or you wouldn't play for him. And

485
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Speaker 4: that's how he was able to shut down some of

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Speaker 4: the greatest offenses when he was when he was a

487
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Speaker 4: head coaching coordinate. See, he understands that that one thing

488
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Speaker 4: is still something you have in your and your tool

489
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Speaker 4: kid and if you don't use it, you're just asking

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Speaker 4: for it. And last night that's how Pooka went off

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Speaker 4: like he did.

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Speaker 2: What if you were the GM of the Chiefs, how

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Speaker 2: are you approaching next season?

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Speaker 4: Oh? Boy, Yeah, Brett's a good friend of mine, Brett

495
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Speaker 4: Veach And I'll tell you what, first and foremost, I

496
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Speaker 4: think You've got to get Patrick at bell kol running back.

497
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Speaker 4: You got to. You've got to get him a guy

498
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Speaker 4: he can turn around and hand the ball to and

499
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Speaker 4: he's probably gonna get you four and a half on

500
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Speaker 4: average and maybe rip you know, at least two to

501
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,800
Speaker 4: three plus ten plus twenty yard runs a game. So

502
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Speaker 4: you got to You've got to get him a true

503
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Speaker 4: number one at wide receiver. You've got to get him

504
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Speaker 4: an X that even when the team knows you're gonna

505
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Speaker 4: throw it to him, he can still make plays. You've

506
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,960
Speaker 4: got to get him that guy. And obviously the offensive

507
00:25:28,000 --> 00:25:31,080
Speaker 4: line got banged that season. You saw how bad it became.

508
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Speaker 4: You saw at every single every single UH pass attempt

509
00:25:36,119 --> 00:25:38,960
Speaker 4: became like it became like a playground ball for Patrick.

510
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Speaker 4: And Patrick can't be the guy who's constantly running for

511
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Speaker 4: his life and trying to and obviously coming off that injury.

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Speaker 4: You don't want him being the number one, number two

513
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Speaker 4: rush on the team. He just can't be. Offensive line

514
00:25:50,240 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 4: has to get healthy. They have to get him a

515
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Speaker 4: running back, They have to get him a true number one.

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Speaker 4: What's the succession plan for Travis Kelsey a tight end?

517
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Speaker 4: That's a lot.

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Speaker 2: There expecting him to retire.

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Speaker 4: Even if he doesn't, you still need more juice at

520
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Speaker 4: that position. As good as he is, he'll needs someone who,

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00:26:10,119 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 4: from a physical perspective, really does inject fear into a

522
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Speaker 4: defense in that area, that fifteen to twenty yard area

523
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Speaker 4: between the number is because this guy is such a

524
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Speaker 4: unique a Travis is one of the He's the greatest.

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Speaker 4: He's going to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 2: You think he's the best tight end of all time?

527
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Speaker 4: The numbers say he is. Well Tony, I played against

528
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Speaker 4: Tony Tony was. I didn't play against Gronk, but I

529
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Speaker 4: played against Tony and Tony was damned near uncoverable. I

530
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Speaker 4: played against Keith Jackson when you know he had just

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Speaker 4: left Philly and went to Miami and Marino was throwing

532
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Speaker 4: in pass this.

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Speaker 7: I know what.

534
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Speaker 4: There's some really really good tight ends that have played

535
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Speaker 4: in this league. Seagment. But but Travis is right there,

536
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Speaker 4: He's right at the very top.

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Speaker 2: Have fun tonight, Hopefully we get a competitive game for

538
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Speaker 2: a while, and I think well hangs in there. Kick

539
00:27:01,280 --> 00:27:07,000
Speaker 2: off at seven thirty Eastern on TNT. Lewis, thank you, Yeah,

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Speaker 2: safe travels, Happy holidays to you.

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Speaker 4: Thanks a lot.

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Speaker 1: As always, that's Lewis Riddick of the Mothership. Fox Sports

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546
00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,520
Speaker 1: Ryan Lee, former NFL quarterback. He'll be calling the Packers

547
00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:32,679
Speaker 1: Bears Saturday, Bronco's Chiefs on Christmas Night, and the FCS

548
00:27:32,760 --> 00:27:37,199
Speaker 1: National Title game, all in Westwood One joins us in studio.

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Speaker 2: Good to see you again. Level of belief in Sam Darnold,

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Speaker 2: let me start there.

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Speaker 7: I have a lot of belief in Sam Darnald. Those

552
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Speaker 7: two interceptions last night, you know, I think would have

553
00:27:48,880 --> 00:27:52,479
Speaker 7: fooled any quarterback in that situation. They ran man coverage

554
00:27:52,560 --> 00:27:55,439
Speaker 7: look and then this was just film oriented and what

555
00:27:55,480 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 7: they saw and fell under and zoned for that touchdown,

556
00:27:58,520 --> 00:28:01,200
Speaker 7: well should have been a touchdown. And then the other one,

557
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,280
Speaker 7: he had just had so much pressure in his face

558
00:28:03,640 --> 00:28:05,639
Speaker 7: he had to let it go and the defender dropped

559
00:28:05,720 --> 00:28:08,720
Speaker 7: right into the spot. Both those of those situational plays

560
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Speaker 7: that you really can't put a lot on him. It

561
00:28:11,080 --> 00:28:13,360
Speaker 7: wasn't like a bad throat, It wasn't a bad decision.

562
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 7: It was just better coaching on the other side to

563
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Speaker 7: prepare for it. And so I thought the comeback was amazing.

564
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 7: I thought it was really smart him to throw the

565
00:28:22,119 --> 00:28:25,040
Speaker 7: pass backwards on the two point conversion against the guy's helmet.

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Speaker 7: I thought that was really smart. I just love what

567
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 7: he's done. He's reinvented himself. He's continued to work with

568
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Speaker 7: Jordan Palmer in the off seasons and has just gotten

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Speaker 7: himself to a place where he can be that guy.

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Speaker 7: And this team is good enough, especially defensively, where they

571
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Speaker 7: can make an impact. For whatever it was against the Rams.

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Speaker 7: In both those games, it looked like neither one of

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Speaker 7: those games were an opportunity for them to win it,

574
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Speaker 7: and yet they won one of them.

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Speaker 2: Explain to me, I want to give the credit to

576
00:28:52,760 --> 00:28:58,400
Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford, but Sean mcvay's role with Matthew Stafford, like,

577
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Speaker 2: how do you share the MVP or you know, not

578
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Speaker 2: that Sean is asking for that, but you know we're

579
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:08,800
Speaker 2: trying to figure out, you know, Liam Cullen with Trevor Lawrence,

580
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Speaker 2: you know, you got to have that whisper there to

581
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Speaker 2: help you, whether it's Ben Jhonson with Caleb Williams, but

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Speaker 2: Sean McVay with you know, Matthew Stafford is.

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Speaker 7: What well, I think a lot of what that goes

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Speaker 7: into is the scheme. So what he has been able

585
00:29:23,760 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 7: to do for Matthew is he's been able to clear

586
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Speaker 7: his vision, like when he looks out at a defense,

587
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Speaker 7: especially with this defense now and now these days where

588
00:29:32,520 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 7: they place so much emphasis on trying to distract you

589
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,760
Speaker 7: or trying to convince you it's a different coverage. He's

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Speaker 7: cleared it up for him and how does that work?

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Speaker 7: All right? So for him in particular, what he's done

592
00:29:44,920 --> 00:29:49,120
Speaker 7: is he's he's with the motion. He's allowed Pat Matthew

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Speaker 7: Stafford to understand what it's going to look like post snap,

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Speaker 7: and a lot of times that's difficult to do. And

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Speaker 7: when coaches are trying to teach teams that motion, a

596
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Speaker 7: lot they're telling them to prepare for what the the

597
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Speaker 7: formation is going to look like when it's all said

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Speaker 7: and done. Same thing on the defense. I talked to

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Speaker 7: a lot of defensive coordinators this year around when you're

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Speaker 7: setting up these defenses, because you're lining up in something

601
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Speaker 7: pre snap and getting to something post up, and we

602
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Speaker 7: have to be right on what we think the formation

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Speaker 7: is going to be. So there's a lot of guessing

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Speaker 7: going on, but there's informed guessing on Sean mcvay's side,

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Speaker 7: and it's allowed Matthew Stafford just to feel really comfortable

606
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Speaker 7: when he drops back. I don't think for one second

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Speaker 7: does he feel like he does not know what's going

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Speaker 7: on on the.

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Speaker 2: Other side of the football. Explain pukin Nakua to me?

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Speaker 7: In what way?

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Speaker 2: He's not fast? I mean, I like, I'm just trying

612
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Speaker 2: to figure out how you can dominate like that.

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Speaker 7: Well, he catches the ball better than anybody. He uses

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Speaker 7: his hands. That's a big part of it. We didn't

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Speaker 7: see this at BYU. We saw it at Washington. I

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Speaker 7: saw it at Washington and I thought this guy was

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Speaker 7: going to be a game wrecker there and he just

618
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 7: got homesick and wanted to go home. Okay, and he

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Speaker 7: got hurt quite a bit while he was there, and

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Speaker 7: it's the reason why he fell so far in the draft.

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Speaker 7: But I always knew that he had the capability. Was

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Speaker 7: a five star kid that went there, and he was big,

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Speaker 7: he was physical, he could catch the football, he was

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Speaker 7: fast enough. And in this league you you have to

625
00:31:11,720 --> 00:31:13,320
Speaker 7: have you have to have a burner, somebody on the

626
00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:15,440
Speaker 7: outside that can can take the top off. But you

627
00:31:15,520 --> 00:31:18,440
Speaker 7: got to have somebody who, like I was listening to

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Speaker 7: Lewis Riddick talk to you a little bit earlier about

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Speaker 7: his ability. If you don't put somebody in his face

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Speaker 7: to the line of scrimmage and this guy can get

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Speaker 7: three or four steps into a break, I mean you

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Speaker 7: you you don't have a chance. But also him being

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00:31:32,360 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 7: open is much different than anybody else being open. If

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Speaker 7: you saw a corner route in the last couple of

635
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,880
Speaker 7: weeks where the defender has been right there, but the

636
00:31:38,920 --> 00:31:42,160
Speaker 7: ball placement's been so good, and if it's anywhere near

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00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:44,959
Speaker 7: his catch, ready is he's catching it, plain and simple.

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00:31:45,880 --> 00:31:47,800
Speaker 7: The biggest thing too, if you notice he doesn't go

639
00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 7: down have to catch the ball. I mean he stays

640
00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 7: up even when he's hit for whatever reason. His balance

641
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Speaker 7: keeps him up and he's been able to get a

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00:31:54,400 --> 00:31:58,280
Speaker 7: couple more yards, always falling forward. I mean, he was

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00:31:58,320 --> 00:32:01,080
Speaker 7: so impactful last night for that football team and I

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00:32:01,080 --> 00:32:04,080
Speaker 7: can't believe the statistics were what they were and ultimately

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Speaker 7: seeing the Seahawks win. But is there a similarity with

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Speaker 7: Cooper cup Well? I think that's where he learned it

647
00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,120
Speaker 7: from I do. I mean that early on in his career,

648
00:32:12,160 --> 00:32:15,680
Speaker 7: Cooper was there showing him how it's done. I always

649
00:32:15,720 --> 00:32:18,640
Speaker 7: talk to young players, especially when I'm at the Senior Bowl,

650
00:32:18,840 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 7: and I talked to him about when you entered the

651
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:23,640
Speaker 7: NFL locker room, go find the guy that's been doing

652
00:32:23,640 --> 00:32:26,320
Speaker 7: this eight to ten years, ask him how he did it,

653
00:32:26,360 --> 00:32:28,840
Speaker 7: and then follow his advice verbatim. And I feel like

654
00:32:29,160 --> 00:32:31,320
Speaker 7: Poka just kind of came in, put his nose right

655
00:32:31,400 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 7: between Cooper's butt crack, and followed him around for two years, right,

656
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 7: And that's the way. Those are the things that you

657
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,720
Speaker 7: wish you would have known and understood. I wish I

658
00:32:39,720 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 7: would have done that with Junior SEO and Rodney Harrison

659
00:32:41,920 --> 00:32:45,520
Speaker 7: and just sat there watched them be professionals figure it out.

660
00:32:45,560 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 7: Because I love watching someone like Sam Darnold have success.

661
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:50,720
Speaker 7: I love seeing someone like Pooka and the cool because

662
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:52,800
Speaker 7: they figured it out. They got there and they said,

663
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 7: all I got to do is play football. That's all

664
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:57,440
Speaker 7: I gotta do. I don't have to worry about anything else.

665
00:32:57,480 --> 00:32:59,760
Speaker 7: I don't have to be a big man on campus

666
00:32:59,760 --> 00:33:01,880
Speaker 7: any more. I just got to play football. And these

667
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:03,440
Speaker 7: are the guys that did it, and I want to

668
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:04,480
Speaker 7: follow in their footsteps.

669
00:33:04,680 --> 00:33:07,440
Speaker 2: Talking to Ryan Leith, the former NFL quarterback, he'll be

670
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 2: working for Westwood One. It'll be the Packers Bears Saturday,

671
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:14,560
Speaker 2: Broncos Chiefs on Christmas Night in the FCS National Title

672
00:33:14,600 --> 00:33:19,560
Speaker 2: Game January fifth, all in west Wood One. Packers without

673
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:23,920
Speaker 2: Michah Parsons. What do the Bears do to take advantage

674
00:33:23,920 --> 00:33:26,840
Speaker 2: of that? Okay, so this is something that I've been

675
00:33:26,880 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 2: looking at all week long in terms of what I

676
00:33:29,800 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 2: think it may do is to make confuse the Bears

677
00:33:32,280 --> 00:33:34,360
Speaker 2: and Caleb a little bit more early in the game.

678
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 2: Because with Michael Parsons, they have not brought blitzes. They've

679
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,400
Speaker 2: rushed four guys. So if you go look at the blitz.

680
00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 7: Tape this week to prepare, if Caleb Williams has got

681
00:33:43,160 --> 00:33:45,400
Speaker 7: his blitz cut up, it may not have many plays

682
00:33:45,400 --> 00:33:47,320
Speaker 7: on it because they just haven't been bringing a lot

683
00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,080
Speaker 7: of pressure because they've been able to get it with

684
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:51,360
Speaker 7: Michael Parsons and if he gets double team, the three

685
00:33:51,400 --> 00:33:53,520
Speaker 7: other guys have been doing the work. So I think

686
00:33:53,600 --> 00:33:55,800
Speaker 7: early on, as long as they don't make any mistakes

687
00:33:55,800 --> 00:33:58,160
Speaker 7: like turning it over and use that time on the

688
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,680
Speaker 7: sideline to see where they're bringing McDuff or the bringing

689
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:04,960
Speaker 7: kway Walker or even you know, Evan Williams from the

690
00:34:05,000 --> 00:34:07,400
Speaker 7: back end. If he's able to go those types of

691
00:34:07,400 --> 00:34:09,399
Speaker 7: pressures on the tablet's going to be a huge thing

692
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:11,319
Speaker 7: to see where they're coming comes. They have to find

693
00:34:11,320 --> 00:34:13,520
Speaker 7: a way to get pressure on him somehow, and they're

694
00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:14,680
Speaker 7: not going to be able to do it without the

695
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:18,840
Speaker 7: most pressurized defensive edge rusher this year in the NFL.

696
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 2: Who's the better quarterback in this game?

697
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 7: I think Jordan Love just simply because he's got more experienced,

698
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:32,359
Speaker 7: he doesn't make the big mistake necessarily as much as

699
00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:36,600
Speaker 7: Caleb does. But I will say this, Caleb Williams for

700
00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,399
Speaker 7: me is a bit of a throwback, and in that

701
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:42,799
Speaker 7: he's not doing what everybody else does in this year,

702
00:34:42,840 --> 00:34:46,120
Speaker 7: in this NFL where the ball is thrown within minus

703
00:34:46,120 --> 00:34:47,719
Speaker 7: two and a half and plus two and a half

704
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 7: of the line of scrimmage. That's why completion percentages are

705
00:34:51,440 --> 00:34:53,960
Speaker 7: so high, and he's around fifty eight percent because he

706
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:56,200
Speaker 7: goes down the field at an average around seven to

707
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:58,120
Speaker 7: ten yards per attempt down.

708
00:34:58,160 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 2: That's old school percentages.

709
00:35:00,080 --> 00:35:02,240
Speaker 7: A lot of quarterbacks twenty years ago, when Drew Bledsoe

710
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:04,160
Speaker 7: and I were playing and things like that, we were

711
00:35:04,160 --> 00:35:06,040
Speaker 7: attempting the ball to throw the ball down the field

712
00:35:06,040 --> 00:35:08,040
Speaker 7: a lot more, and that means our completion percentages were

713
00:35:08,120 --> 00:35:11,520
Speaker 7: much lower. Now they're up in the seventies, low seventies,

714
00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:13,560
Speaker 7: and if you're not, you're looked at as what's wrong

715
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,600
Speaker 7: with you type of mentality. And so Caleb Williams for me,

716
00:35:16,680 --> 00:35:17,960
Speaker 7: is a bit of a throwback, a bit of a

717
00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,319
Speaker 7: guy that is going to take some more chances down

718
00:35:20,400 --> 00:35:23,560
Speaker 7: the field. And it should be interesting and fascinating over

719
00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:25,560
Speaker 7: the next three weeks because it's not like they play

720
00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:27,479
Speaker 7: you know, you know, teams they.

721
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:28,000
Speaker 2: Should walk through.

722
00:35:28,000 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 7: They have the Packers, they had go out to play

723
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:31,319
Speaker 7: the forty nine ers on the road, and then they

724
00:35:31,320 --> 00:35:34,480
Speaker 7: have the Lions to finish the season. So this Chicago

725
00:35:34,480 --> 00:35:37,360
Speaker 7: Bears team, as good as they've been, I think anybody

726
00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:39,840
Speaker 7: who's watched them and understands them. They could look and

727
00:35:39,880 --> 00:35:41,759
Speaker 7: say this team could be ten and seven when it's

728
00:35:41,760 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 7: all said and done. You know, these three games are

729
00:35:44,120 --> 00:35:46,520
Speaker 7: really important. Is Ben Johnson the guy that gets them

730
00:35:46,520 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 7: through the adversity of the things like that? Is Michael

731
00:35:49,160 --> 00:35:52,120
Speaker 7: Parsons that big of a miss that the that the

732
00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:54,640
Speaker 7: Bears are the better team and win the division and stuff?

733
00:35:54,680 --> 00:35:56,440
Speaker 7: So these three weeks are going to tell you a

734
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,840
Speaker 7: lot about who the Chicago Bears are, what Caleb Williams

735
00:35:58,840 --> 00:36:01,320
Speaker 7: is capable of doing, and how much Ben Johnson places

736
00:36:01,360 --> 00:36:02,239
Speaker 7: at his feet to work.

737
00:36:03,719 --> 00:36:05,800
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, you make the decision to bench

738
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:10,040
Speaker 2: deactivate to a tongue of violin, I mean that feels

739
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,480
Speaker 2: like we were moving on. I mean that felt like

740
00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 2: an announcement, a declaration. What do you make of now,

741
00:36:15,800 --> 00:36:17,879
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Tua can't play for Mike.

742
00:36:19,120 --> 00:36:23,800
Speaker 7: It's interesting because they felt so attached at the hip

743
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:28,080
Speaker 7: that there had to have been something maybe sent down

744
00:36:28,080 --> 00:36:30,879
Speaker 7: from higher above that was like, hey, if you want

745
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:33,320
Speaker 7: to keep a job, you have to start to distance

746
00:36:33,360 --> 00:36:35,360
Speaker 7: yourself from because we're going to move on and do something.

747
00:36:35,960 --> 00:36:38,319
Speaker 7: Because they were really attached to one another and they

748
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 7: rode through the process what they ran, the anticipation in

749
00:36:42,120 --> 00:36:44,160
Speaker 7: the running game, in the past game, with all of that,

750
00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:47,320
Speaker 7: I don't know how you do it, but clearly Russell

751
00:36:47,360 --> 00:36:50,080
Speaker 7: Wilson and the decision in Denver to walk away from

752
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:52,720
Speaker 7: that much dead cap money and still be this good

753
00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:57,279
Speaker 7: that quick makes the family in Miami believe that they

754
00:36:57,280 --> 00:36:59,840
Speaker 7: could do the same thing if they hit the right quarterback,

755
00:37:00,040 --> 00:37:03,239
Speaker 7: they get the right plan in place. You know, it

756
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:06,279
Speaker 7: hasn't worked for them. They haven't been really anything since

757
00:37:06,360 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 7: Dan Marino played, so it's.

758
00:37:07,920 --> 00:37:11,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, but they saw something to give him that contract?

759
00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:14,120
Speaker 2: Is it now? They realized he can't throw out to

760
00:37:14,200 --> 00:37:16,200
Speaker 2: the numbers he doesn't. You know, if you don't have

761
00:37:16,280 --> 00:37:19,480
Speaker 2: Tyreek killed, I throw at seven and you take it seventy.

762
00:37:19,520 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 2: I mean they have a good running game. I don't know.

763
00:37:22,760 --> 00:37:26,160
Speaker 2: It just it feels the timing feels strange.

764
00:37:26,280 --> 00:37:28,520
Speaker 7: It does feel strange. It almost feels like this is

765
00:37:28,520 --> 00:37:31,920
Speaker 7: one of those impulsive decisions made by a billionaire somewhere

766
00:37:31,960 --> 00:37:35,320
Speaker 7: that that isn't right. Right, it's the micromanagement of things

767
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:37,799
Speaker 7: that isn't there. The reason that they don't have a

768
00:37:37,840 --> 00:37:39,359
Speaker 7: general manager in place at the time.

769
00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,120
Speaker 2: Would you rather have Kyler Murray or Tua.

770
00:37:43,040 --> 00:37:46,080
Speaker 7: I don't know they've They've seemed pretty similar to me.

771
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 2: Well, one's got a one is a crazy athlete.

772
00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:53,200
Speaker 7: One is a crazy athlete. His ability to work with

773
00:37:53,239 --> 00:37:57,399
Speaker 7: this feet has allowed him to be better the anticipation

774
00:37:57,520 --> 00:38:00,279
Speaker 7: of Tuatongue bay Law. Over the years I've watched, he's

775
00:38:00,280 --> 00:38:03,439
Speaker 7: been one of the most accurate anticipatory quarterbacks I've ever seen,

776
00:38:03,520 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 7: and in this league that's incredibly important. But to your point,

777
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 7: anytime you see a left handed quarterback, it seems labored.

778
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,879
Speaker 7: It just looks labored, And I don't know why that's

779
00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,560
Speaker 7: the case. Maybe it's the fundamentals are a little different,

780
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:17,759
Speaker 7: but it looks like it's a labored throw. So in

781
00:38:17,800 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 7: your point, when he's thrown to the numbers, it looks

782
00:38:20,120 --> 00:38:22,239
Speaker 7: like it's labored. It looks like it's not getting there

783
00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:25,360
Speaker 7: in time, when in reality it does have the pace

784
00:38:25,400 --> 00:38:27,840
Speaker 7: on it it needs. It does get there when it

785
00:38:27,880 --> 00:38:30,320
Speaker 7: needs to. He's just made some bad and poor decisions,

786
00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,520
Speaker 7: in particular in that Pittsburgh game, and he's got to

787
00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:35,719
Speaker 7: where the badge of not being able to play well

788
00:38:35,719 --> 00:38:38,759
Speaker 7: in cold weather, and that's half of their season. When

789
00:38:38,840 --> 00:38:40,480
Speaker 7: you talk about who they play in their division on

790
00:38:40,520 --> 00:38:44,279
Speaker 7: the road. Explain that cold weather thing. I don't get it.

791
00:38:44,400 --> 00:38:46,360
Speaker 7: I mean, I grew up in Montana, so that's a

792
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:48,920
Speaker 7: different thing. I love that.

793
00:38:49,040 --> 00:38:51,240
Speaker 2: Are you good in hot weather? Did you have problems

794
00:38:51,239 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 2: in hot weather?

795
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,799
Speaker 7: I mean I had problems in really humid weather when

796
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,840
Speaker 7: I played for the Buccaneers. Just the amount of sweat

797
00:38:57,960 --> 00:39:01,680
Speaker 7: that was your body was producing, and then the sweat

798
00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,680
Speaker 7: from the from your center, and we were under center

799
00:39:03,719 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 7: a lot. I made my center in Tampa changes pants

800
00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 7: every quarter I did. It was a swamp, and so

801
00:39:09,880 --> 00:39:12,480
Speaker 7: it was important to try to have as dry as

802
00:39:12,520 --> 00:39:14,359
Speaker 7: hands as you can. But when you're playing in cold weather,

803
00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:17,440
Speaker 7: for me, I was always so hot. My body was warm,

804
00:39:17,920 --> 00:39:21,000
Speaker 7: and that ball was so cold and it almost stuck

805
00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:23,799
Speaker 7: like velcro, and I could whip that thing around. It

806
00:39:23,840 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 7: was a lot of fun. I wish we would playing

807
00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 7: more snow games in college and in the NFL. Some

808
00:39:28,040 --> 00:39:30,839
Speaker 7: of my best games in the NFL were at altitude

809
00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:34,399
Speaker 7: against Denver in those in that cold weather. In high school,

810
00:39:34,440 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 7: we played four out of our you know, ten twelve

811
00:39:37,120 --> 00:39:41,319
Speaker 7: games in snow games, you know, in Montana, so I

812
00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 7: was used to it. I think that's just something you

813
00:39:43,560 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 7: got to get through. But when you practice every single

814
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,880
Speaker 7: day in Miami and then all of a sudden, out

815
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:50,680
Speaker 7: of nowhere, you're asked to go up and playing this,

816
00:39:50,760 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 7: no matter what you do. You can show up the

817
00:39:52,160 --> 00:39:54,160
Speaker 7: day before and take your shirt off while you warm up,

818
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 7: that's not going to acclimate you to what it's what

819
00:39:56,560 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 7: it's really like every single day. But if you said

820
00:39:59,160 --> 00:40:02,520
Speaker 7: to the Buffalo Bills, or the Green Bay Packers or

821
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:06,000
Speaker 7: the Chicago Bears, do you want to play your home

822
00:40:06,040 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 7: games in a dome? And you don't have to attach

823
00:40:08,719 --> 00:40:11,160
Speaker 7: your name to it. We're just going to take a vote.

824
00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 7: And how do you think that they would vote, Well,

825
00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:18,520
Speaker 7: it probably depends on where they come from. Like if

826
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:19,920
Speaker 7: I had a vote, I would vote. I don't want

827
00:40:19,920 --> 00:40:22,759
Speaker 7: to play in the dome. Like the only thing I

828
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:25,800
Speaker 7: hated worse than anything is playing in rain Like Seattle

829
00:40:25,840 --> 00:40:28,280
Speaker 7: would have been a difficult place to play all the time.

830
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,400
Speaker 7: But coach found a fix for that. In college, we

831
00:40:31,440 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 7: called it ruin Ryan's self esteem day. He brought a

832
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,520
Speaker 7: bucket of water out and he made me dump the

833
00:40:35,520 --> 00:40:38,239
Speaker 7: ball in before I threw every time, and I hated it.

834
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 7: And it was just it was it was ruined Ryan's

835
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,240
Speaker 7: self esteem day. But guess what the day we played

836
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,279
Speaker 7: the Apple Cup against Washington to go to the Rose Bowl,

837
00:40:44,320 --> 00:40:46,959
Speaker 7: and when it rained the entire game and I didn't

838
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:49,160
Speaker 7: even notice it, and I threw for three hundred and

839
00:40:49,200 --> 00:40:51,000
Speaker 7: eighty seven the yards and we won the football game.

840
00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,640
Speaker 7: So like, you can do the things you need to

841
00:40:53,800 --> 00:40:56,959
Speaker 7: prefer for it. I like the elements. I like being

842
00:40:57,160 --> 00:40:59,759
Speaker 7: a part of what football is. Somebody said football weather

843
00:40:59,880 --> 00:41:02,440
Speaker 7: is twenty degrees in snow and football weather is sixty

844
00:41:02,480 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 7: four degrees in a sunny day in the South, and

845
00:41:04,239 --> 00:41:07,120
Speaker 7: I'm like, both are good football days. That's football weather.

846
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 7: It doesn't matter whatever the weather is. It's football weather

847
00:41:09,239 --> 00:41:10,000
Speaker 7: in my opinion.

848
00:41:10,120 --> 00:41:12,920
Speaker 2: Because I'd like to play indoors. But if our identity,

849
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 2: So you go to Green Bay, you're told this is

850
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:18,000
Speaker 2: your identity. It's not your identity before you get there.

851
00:41:18,320 --> 00:41:21,399
Speaker 2: You go to Buffalo, this is your identity, Chicago, this

852
00:41:21,440 --> 00:41:24,400
Speaker 2: is your identity. You got to embrace that. You're like,

853
00:41:24,520 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 2: it's mind over matter, yep with these guys. And then

854
00:41:27,719 --> 00:41:30,879
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you see when the Tampa Bay

855
00:41:30,920 --> 00:41:34,120
Speaker 2: Buccaneers would go north or the Dolphins would go north,

856
00:41:34,160 --> 00:41:38,520
Speaker 2: in December and be like the Chargers go to Cincinnati

857
00:41:38,760 --> 00:41:41,200
Speaker 2: years ago with Dan Foutz and it's like, we don't

858
00:41:41,239 --> 00:41:41,879
Speaker 2: want to be here.

859
00:41:42,120 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's you get used to practicing in that weather

860
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,399
Speaker 7: where you're in short sleeves and shorts all the time,

861
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 7: you know, and then all of a sudden you have

862
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 7: to bundle up. My producer told me that the Bears,

863
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,359
Speaker 7: you know, broadcast booth at Soldier Field is out.

864
00:41:58,440 --> 00:41:59,239
Speaker 2: It's open air.

865
00:41:59,280 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 7: It's open air, And I said, and when you mean

866
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,799
Speaker 7: open air, you know, so they have a heater in it,

867
00:42:04,840 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 7: but hey, prepare like it's going to be thirty degrees

868
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:09,640
Speaker 7: for four and a half hours while you're staying.

869
00:42:09,640 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 2: I got thirty five degrees at kickoffs. Last week was

870
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,720
Speaker 2: seven degrees. Yeah, last week was much different. Looking forward

871
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,080
Speaker 2: to this one probably won't have the same heaters that

872
00:42:20,600 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 2: Tom Brady and Kevin Burkers having there. He ran into

873
00:42:22,800 --> 00:42:24,520
Speaker 2: Brady what a couple of weeks ago.

874
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 7: Yeah, we called the Thanksgiving game together and we hadn't

875
00:42:27,360 --> 00:42:30,200
Speaker 7: seen each other for a long long time, and it

876
00:42:30,320 --> 00:42:32,120
Speaker 7: was nice. It was nice to catch up with him.

877
00:42:32,120 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 7: There's one thing I've always wanted to talk to him

878
00:42:33,800 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 7: about is how he's raised his kids because he's done

879
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,319
Speaker 7: it as the goat, as the famous person, and I

880
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,759
Speaker 7: always thought he's done a tremendous job of raising his kids.

881
00:42:40,760 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 7: And I kind of come from the opposite spectrum where

882
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:47,080
Speaker 7: I'm famous but all for a lot of bad things.

883
00:42:47,600 --> 00:42:49,080
Speaker 7: And so how do you how do you do that?

884
00:42:49,160 --> 00:42:50,520
Speaker 7: And how do you raise kids that way? And I

885
00:42:50,680 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 7: was that's the question I asked him, and he gave

886
00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,799
Speaker 7: me a really thoughtful answer, and so we talked for

887
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,839
Speaker 7: a bit. You know, two Rose Bowl quarterbacks from nineteen

888
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:59,719
Speaker 7: ninety eight chatting it up and calling NFL football games together.

889
00:42:59,760 --> 00:43:02,280
Speaker 7: I mean, that's a that's amazing what happened in between

890
00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:03,160
Speaker 7: and where we're at now.

891
00:43:04,160 --> 00:43:05,080
Speaker 2: Is he looking younger?

892
00:43:05,800 --> 00:43:06,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

893
00:43:06,200 --> 00:43:07,480
Speaker 7: I kind of look pretty understanding.

894
00:43:07,640 --> 00:43:11,640
Speaker 2: No, it's not you, which on just about Brady we Yes,

895
00:43:11,680 --> 00:43:14,919
Speaker 2: fifty year olds look much younger than they did before. Okay, yeah,

896
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,960
Speaker 2: and he does. He takes good really and he could

897
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:17,640
Speaker 2: still play.

898
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:21,360
Speaker 7: I suspect if if if you're talking about Philip Rivers

899
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:23,200
Speaker 7: going out there, he could throw it a lot better

900
00:43:23,239 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 7: than Philip Rivers. I can throw it better than Philip Rivers.

901
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 7: I mean that looked bad at it did, Yeah, it did.

902
00:43:28,400 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 7: It was amazing.

903
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 2: I liked his story. But I'm your arm is stronger

904
00:43:33,239 --> 00:43:35,719
Speaker 2: than Yes, I could have thrown better than that would.

905
00:43:35,719 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: I have understood the protections and the defense as well

906
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:40,239
Speaker 2: as he would.

907
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:42,919
Speaker 7: I have taken many more hits than he probably did. Yeah, yeah,

908
00:43:42,920 --> 00:43:46,680
Speaker 7: that's a different story. I get the competitive nature of Tom,

909
00:43:46,840 --> 00:43:48,400
Speaker 7: you know, being away from the game as long as

910
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:51,120
Speaker 7: you have, I don't care how mobile you've kept yourself.

911
00:43:51,520 --> 00:43:55,520
Speaker 7: It's it's a it's a real different animal's mobile anyway.

912
00:43:55,760 --> 00:43:58,760
Speaker 7: Right He he works inside a a eight by twelve

913
00:43:58,840 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 7: inch in the pocket, and he was the best to

914
00:44:01,520 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 7: ever do it.

915
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:06,440
Speaker 2: Thanks for something, by, It's good to be say, travels,

916
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:08,719
Speaker 2: thank you very much. Best to the family. Yeah, they

917
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 2: say hi, all right, Ryan Leef. He'll be on the

918
00:44:11,600 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 2: call tomorrow night. You've got a standalone game, I know

919
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:16,080
Speaker 2: with Westwood One.

920
00:44:16,160 --> 00:44:19,000
Speaker 7: I've been telling you what it's been to have the

921
00:44:19,080 --> 00:44:22,120
Speaker 7: national radio call. I like it. You don't have to

922
00:44:22,120 --> 00:44:23,680
Speaker 7: wear a suit. No one knows what the heck you're

923
00:44:23,680 --> 00:44:25,200
Speaker 7: talking about all the time. You could be talking about

924
00:44:25,200 --> 00:44:27,319
Speaker 7: whatever you want if you're talking some football. You know,

925
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:29,920
Speaker 7: Kurt Warner told me that story when you do radio,

926
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:33,120
Speaker 7: you know, you tell your story of the game. Yeah,

927
00:44:33,200 --> 00:44:36,120
Speaker 7: and those that are listening, hopefully they understand what it is.

928
00:44:36,120 --> 00:44:37,399
Speaker 7: And that was the best advice I ever got.

929
00:44:38,160 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: Ryan will be on the call Packers Bears, that'll be Saturday,

930
00:44:40,680 --> 00:44:44,799
Speaker 2: Broncos Chiefs on Christmas Night, and the FCS National Championship Game.

931
00:44:44,960 --> 00:44:46,920
Speaker 2: Maybe with Montana State.

932
00:44:47,080 --> 00:44:47,880
Speaker 7: Let's go CAATs.

933
00:44:48,160 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 2: January fifth,