WEBVTT - Name Calling Is More Fun 0:00:01.920 --> 0:00:06.200 Broadcasting live from the Abraham Lincoln Radio Studio, the George 0:00:06.280 --> 0:00:10.280 Washington Broadcast Center, Jack Armstrong and Joe Getty. 0:00:10.240 --> 0:00:18.160 Arms Strong and Getty and he Armstrong and Yetty. 0:00:24.440 --> 0:00:27.480 The last debate between Kamala and Trump, ABC got heat 0:00:27.600 --> 0:00:30.360 for live fact checking the whole dogs and cats thing, 0:00:30.760 --> 0:00:33.320 so tonight CBS took a different approach. 0:00:33.920 --> 0:00:36.639 CBS says there will be no live fact checking by 0:00:36.640 --> 0:00:40.960 the moderators, but the broadcast will feature a QR code 0:00:40.960 --> 0:00:43.960 on the screen, which will link to a real time 0:00:44.080 --> 0:00:46.879 fact check being done by CBS journalists. 0:00:47.240 --> 0:00:53.160 Yes, a QR code perfect journalism. When a candidate tells 0:00:53.159 --> 0:00:55.600 a lie, why correct it for the fifty million people 0:00:55.640 --> 0:00:58.360 watching live, just have a link for the twelve nerds who. 0:00:58.320 --> 0:00:59.240 Bother scanning it. 0:01:00.440 --> 0:01:02.040 Am I supposed to be impressed if they. 0:01:01.960 --> 0:01:05.319 Have a QR code. We even have one right here. Yeah, 0:01:05.319 --> 0:01:06.920 it's just it's just a menu. 0:01:06.760 --> 0:01:09.000 For a Mexican restaurant I went to during the pandemic. 0:01:09.040 --> 0:01:11.920 But still you can scan this if you want. 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:17.440 It's interesting that that's his take. That's the problem. Of course, 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:20.880 lefties believe this because the fact checks always go their direction, 0:01:21.360 --> 0:01:23.640 that there can be such a thing as fact checking. 0:01:24.000 --> 0:01:27.240 Clearly, there cannot just it's not a doable thing. 0:01:27.840 --> 0:01:31.440 It's a dressing my opinion up as a fact check. 0:01:31.480 --> 0:01:33.280 Right, and you only fact check one side, and you 0:01:33.319 --> 0:01:36.200 only fact check when it's a handy Yes, Michael. 0:01:35.840 --> 0:01:37.520 What do you think about using the QR code? 0:01:37.560 --> 0:01:39.160 That's actually why I pulled that was I just thought 0:01:39.160 --> 0:01:40.520 it was a strange way of doing things. 0:01:40.560 --> 0:01:42.399 It's an interesting idea, I must say. 0:01:43.000 --> 0:01:47.000 It's a different way to access a completely biased so 0:01:47.080 --> 0:01:48.000 called fact check. 0:01:48.040 --> 0:01:49.040 That's just opinion. 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.480 I'll bet it becomes a thing, though not for this, 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:53.640 but like football games will say, hey, if you'd like 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:56.160 to see real time stats or blah blah blah, you know, 0:01:57.200 --> 0:01:59.040 here's a QR code. You hit on it and you 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:00.880 go to the website. They get on the website they're 0:02:00.920 --> 0:02:02.960 excited about. So we're talking a little bit about the 0:02:03.040 --> 0:02:06.680 debate last night, which Joe things mattered. I didn't think 0:02:06.720 --> 0:02:10.520 it did, and other people are in between. So looking 0:02:10.520 --> 0:02:15.280 at the Washington Post pundits on the opinion page, here's 0:02:15.280 --> 0:02:17.960 some of the headlines. I didn't actually read their pieces 0:02:18.320 --> 0:02:21.600 at debate. Vance whines you weren't supposed to fact check me? 0:02:21.840 --> 0:02:27.040 By Dana Milbank that's whining. If they announced they're not 0:02:27.080 --> 0:02:29.240 going to fact check, and then they start fact checking 0:02:29.280 --> 0:02:31.240 you and not the other guy, it's whining to point 0:02:31.280 --> 0:02:31.520 that out. 0:02:31.600 --> 0:02:32.000 That's right. 0:02:32.120 --> 0:02:36.960 Yeah, well, thanks Dana for that nugget you. It's an 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:40.200 unfortunate term for less than masculine man. E. J. 0:02:40.360 --> 0:02:43.239 Deonn of The Washington Post writes Vance's debate performance was 0:02:43.280 --> 0:02:45.680 a breathtaking exercise insane washing. 0:02:47.160 --> 0:02:50.680 Right, Yeah, I saw Van Jones using that term sane washing, 0:02:50.760 --> 0:02:54.519 where he comes off as a sane and reasonable fellow 0:02:54.600 --> 0:02:57.240 expressing the horrific policies of Trump. 0:02:57.360 --> 0:02:59.799 Well, you know what, the interesting thing about JD. Vance is, 0:02:59.840 --> 0:03:02.800 if you've actually been following his career, he is sane 0:03:02.800 --> 0:03:10.520 and smart. He was crazy washing, maga washing his reasonableness 0:03:11.080 --> 0:03:13.560 over these last couple of years when he realized, don't 0:03:13.600 --> 0:03:15.359 you think when he realized which direction the wind was 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:18.600 bowling politically the last night him was more of the 0:03:18.639 --> 0:03:21.160 real hymn than the maga him. 0:03:21.960 --> 0:03:24.400 Yes, oh yeah, yeah, beyond question. 0:03:25.360 --> 0:03:27.520 Dan Balls wrote in The Washington Post, we had him 0:03:27.520 --> 0:03:28.520 on when we were in Chicago. 0:03:28.639 --> 0:03:29.360 Wasn't that exciting? 0:03:29.800 --> 0:03:33.560 Vice presidential debates rarely matter much in presidential campaigns this 0:03:33.600 --> 0:03:35.680 one may matter less than ever, not because of what 0:03:35.840 --> 0:03:38.200 was said or not said, but because events have suddenly 0:03:38.240 --> 0:03:40.200 interceded in the ways. It could affect the election in 0:03:40.240 --> 0:03:43.080 the closing weeks much more than what's happening on stage. 0:03:43.440 --> 0:03:45.960 And that is a thing I read from another pundit 0:03:46.000 --> 0:03:50.480 that like, you got Iran an Israel going to war, 0:03:50.960 --> 0:03:53.880 you got this doc strike that if it drags on, 0:03:54.040 --> 0:03:57.000 is going to become a giant political issue. 0:03:58.080 --> 0:04:02.040 And then the. 0:04:00.360 --> 0:04:03.800 Handling of the hurricane, which is not done yet, which 0:04:03.800 --> 0:04:07.600 are just are bigger things yesterday, probably politically than anything 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.480 jd Vance or Walls could say. 0:04:10.560 --> 0:04:12.760 Yeah, I would say definitely the dock worker thing in 0:04:12.840 --> 0:04:16.840 Israel are going to be more significant. I disagree with 0:04:16.880 --> 0:04:23.919 the confessional wisdom. I think there's so much concern with 0:04:24.080 --> 0:04:26.920 both of the top of the ticket candidates that people 0:04:27.080 --> 0:04:30.440 will let something like well that Veep seems a lot 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:32.640 more steady than the other VIEP affect their vote in 0:04:32.640 --> 0:04:35.039 the way that's unprecedented. You can believe me, or you 0:04:35.040 --> 0:04:37.320 can believe the people who told you there's zero chance 0:04:37.440 --> 0:04:41.400 Joe Biden drops out. Having said that smugly and really 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.240 enjoying it, to. 0:04:43.279 --> 0:04:45.080 The debate proper. 0:04:45.760 --> 0:04:47.600 I thought this stuff on the economy was pretty good, 0:04:47.600 --> 0:04:50.840 and that was definitely the case that Trump advance must 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:56.080 press and that Donald is thus far floundered terribly at 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.080 pressing it. I love this. I think this is the 0:04:59.160 --> 0:05:05.200 right answer, Tim Walls, I tell you, why don't we 0:05:05.200 --> 0:05:07.360 go ahead and play sixty one and then we'll get 0:05:07.400 --> 0:05:08.760 to my favorite sixty three. 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:10.560 My pro tip of the day is this. 0:05:10.960 --> 0:05:13.680 If you need heart surgery, listen to the people at 0:05:13.680 --> 0:05:15.400 the Mayo Clinic in Rochester, Minnesota. 0:05:15.440 --> 0:05:18.560 Not Donald Trump, Governor. You say, trust the experts. 0:05:18.800 --> 0:05:21.400 But those same experts for forty years said that if 0:05:21.440 --> 0:05:23.160 we shipped our manufacturing base. 0:05:22.920 --> 0:05:25.760 Off to China, we'd get cheaper goods. They lied about that. 0:05:25.960 --> 0:05:28.320 They said if we shipped our industrial base off to 0:05:28.400 --> 0:05:31.000 other countries, to Mexico and elsewhere, it would make the 0:05:31.000 --> 0:05:32.040 middle class stronger. 0:05:32.200 --> 0:05:34.960 They were wrong about that. They were wrong. 0:05:34.760 --> 0:05:37.760 About the idea that if we made America less self reliant, 0:05:38.160 --> 0:05:41.520 less productive in our own nation, that would somehow make 0:05:41.600 --> 0:05:42.240 us better off. 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:43.640 And they were wrong about it. 0:05:43.800 --> 0:05:46.560 And for the first time in a generation, Donald Trump 0:05:46.640 --> 0:05:49.440 had the wisdom and the courage to say, to that 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:52.520 bipartisan consensus, we're not doing it anymore. 0:05:53.120 --> 0:05:55.640 Speaking of smugly annoying arguments, you get that from the 0:05:55.720 --> 0:05:57.680 left a lot. You need to trust that, you need 0:05:57.720 --> 0:06:01.720 to ask the experts, trust the science. I believe in science, 0:06:02.080 --> 0:06:04.479 and then they pick these three people out of ten 0:06:04.480 --> 0:06:06.320 that happen to agree with them and pretend that that's 0:06:06.360 --> 0:06:09.440 the only quote unquote experts that ought to be consulted. 0:06:09.720 --> 0:06:12.320 But then JD I thought, really laid the wood to 0:06:12.360 --> 0:06:14.520 that question in sixty three, Michael. 0:06:14.800 --> 0:06:17.039 If you notice what Governor Waltz just did is he said, 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.440 first of all, Donald Trump has to listen to the experts, 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.599 and then when he acknowledged that the experts screwed up, 0:06:21.640 --> 0:06:23.640 he said, well, Donald Trump didn't do nearly as good 0:06:23.680 --> 0:06:26.280 of a job as this, that's general as he did. 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:29.120 So what Tim Waltz is doing. And I honestly, Tim, 0:06:29.279 --> 0:06:31.120 I think you got a tough job here because you've 0:06:31.120 --> 0:06:31.400 got to. 0:06:31.360 --> 0:06:32.200 Play whack a mole. 0:06:32.200 --> 0:06:35.000 You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver rising 0:06:35.000 --> 0:06:36.159 take home pay, which. 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:36.760 Of course he did. 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:40.240 You've got to pretend that Donald Trump didn't deliver lower inflation, 0:06:40.360 --> 0:06:42.960 which of course he did. And then you've simultaneously got 0:06:43.000 --> 0:06:47.200 to defend Kamala Harris's atrocious economic record, which has made gas, 0:06:47.440 --> 0:06:50.560 groceries and housing unaffordable fair American citizens. 0:06:50.800 --> 0:06:53.080 I was raised by a woman who would. 0:06:52.800 --> 0:06:55.560 Sometimes go into medical debt so that she could put 0:06:55.600 --> 0:06:56.280 food on the. 0:06:56.240 --> 0:06:57.480 Table in our household. 0:06:57.800 --> 0:07:00.000 I know what it's like to not be able to 0:07:00.200 --> 0:07:01.960 afford the things that you need to afford. 0:07:02.200 --> 0:07:04.880 We can do so much better to all of you watching. 0:07:05.160 --> 0:07:07.640 We can get back to in America that's affordable again. 0:07:07.880 --> 0:07:11.080 We just got to get back to common sense economic principles. 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:17.560 They all leaves park, touch them all. Yeah, that's some 0:07:17.600 --> 0:07:19.960 good vegetable eating right there. We got some dessert coming 0:07:20.040 --> 0:07:23.440 up here in a second. But I like it's I 0:07:23.480 --> 0:07:26.760 hate to admit that this is true, but policy debates 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:29.000 are not as much fun as a name calling. 0:07:29.320 --> 0:07:31.280 Name calling is more fun. It's easier to watch. 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:35.080 Wow, Wow, I am a serious man, folks. Can you 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:39.320 imagine my frustration working in this clown factory? 0:07:39.600 --> 0:07:44.800 It's like being stuffed clo. Can I get a second 0:07:44.800 --> 0:07:49.160 take on that? What was I going to say? 0:07:49.360 --> 0:07:52.840 It reminded me of something, that thing dessert And this 0:07:53.000 --> 0:07:58.880 came up after the Trump Haaris debate. All statistics mean 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:03.120 nothing to me. These debates because they regularly turn out 0:08:03.120 --> 0:08:07.200 to be either completely the opposite of what's happening, or 0:08:07.520 --> 0:08:11.040 cherry picked or massaged. I mean, maybe the best thing 0:08:11.080 --> 0:08:15.080 Mark Twain ever said was the whole three kinds of lies, lies, 0:08:15.160 --> 0:08:18.560 damned lies, and statistics, because you can make statistics be anything. 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:21.880 And that's why even if there's stuff I like hearing 0:08:21.920 --> 0:08:25.000 about how are this lowered it eight thousand and six 0:08:25.040 --> 0:08:29.000 thousand up and forty percent, it's just eh, maybe maybe not. 0:08:29.600 --> 0:08:31.560 I need I need a philosophy. I need to hear 0:08:31.600 --> 0:08:34.920 the philosophy that that I can buy into. You know, 0:08:36.400 --> 0:08:39.160 I believe rent control doesn't work, so like, if that's 0:08:39.200 --> 0:08:41.600 a philosophy, I can hang on to that. You say 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.559 it doesn't work, you say it does, you're wrong, you're right. 0:08:45.280 --> 0:08:47.319 But when you start getting into percentages and dollars and 0:08:47.320 --> 0:08:49.360 stuff like that, they're so easy to massage. And the 0:08:49.400 --> 0:08:51.880 perfect example is Kamala Harris brought it up in the 0:08:51.960 --> 0:08:54.760 last debate about how they lowered the price of insulin 0:08:55.080 --> 0:08:57.280 from five hundred dollars to thirty dollars or whatever the 0:08:57.320 --> 0:08:58.760 heck it was she threw out there, and I thought, Wow, 0:08:58.800 --> 0:08:59.559 that's a pretty good one. 0:08:59.559 --> 0:09:02.040 I guess I don't know think about it anyway. 0:09:02.120 --> 0:09:06.960 I heard a somebody who knows about it run it 0:09:07.040 --> 0:09:09.360 down the next day, and it was a situation where 0:09:09.400 --> 0:09:12.280 there was like, there's like six people in America paying 0:09:12.320 --> 0:09:17.760 that original price, and the applied to almost nobody because everybody. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:18.600 Qualifies for other plans. 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:22.040 So it was just it was a completely meaningless thing, 0:09:22.720 --> 0:09:23.880 and he got thrown out again. 0:09:25.120 --> 0:09:27.160 Walls mentioned it again last night, the whole insulin thing 0:09:27.200 --> 0:09:27.600 coming down. 0:09:27.760 --> 0:09:31.080 But nobody you talk about fact checking, nobody ever digs 0:09:31.080 --> 0:09:32.000 into that stuff. 0:09:32.040 --> 0:09:37.280 Really, I can't believe any moderator ever lets anybody get 0:09:37.320 --> 0:09:40.920 away with well, I guess it'd be Democrats, but we 0:09:41.000 --> 0:09:44.480 created more job any advance. Well, well, well there's a 0:09:44.679 --> 0:09:49.840 freaking global pandemic and you shut down the businesses you 0:09:49.920 --> 0:09:52.760 can't get credit for when they opened again, next question, 0:09:53.280 --> 0:09:53.920 I know it. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.839 Yeah, you talk about a fact check, and they did 0:09:55.840 --> 0:09:58.560 that on the Trump debate too. Let him get away 0:09:58.559 --> 0:10:01.679 with claiming that they create we hated jobs when we 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:04.960 started letting people go back to work. It is absolutely amazing. Okay, So, 0:10:05.040 --> 0:10:07.000 like I said, you got through the vegetables. 0:10:06.600 --> 0:10:07.280 Here's you desert. 0:10:07.440 --> 0:10:10.440 Because I really enjoy this this is probably not important 0:10:10.480 --> 0:10:13.120 other than let's stretch out, let's do it all. I 0:10:13.160 --> 0:10:15.360 love this too. It shows him to be kind of 0:10:15.400 --> 0:10:19.240 a nut. So here's this original claim about being in 0:10:19.320 --> 0:10:23.400 China during the big upheaval there in China in eighty nine. 0:10:23.920 --> 0:10:26.480 When did you live in China about late eighties? 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:28.440 Okay, so you know I was there. I see this 0:10:28.480 --> 0:10:30.920 happening in Hong Kong. As a more serious note, I 0:10:31.040 --> 0:10:35.000 was in Hong Kong on June fourth, nineteen eighty nine, when, 0:10:35.040 --> 0:10:38.520 of course Tianneman Square appened. Then I was in China 0:10:39.200 --> 0:10:41.640 after that. It was very strange because of course all 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:45.520 outside transmissions were blocked Voice of America and of course 0:10:45.520 --> 0:10:48.360 there was no phones or email or anything, so I 0:10:48.480 --> 0:10:50.160 was kind of out of touch. It took me a 0:10:50.200 --> 0:10:52.440 month to know the Berlin Wall had fallen when I 0:10:52.480 --> 0:10:53.079 was living there. 0:10:56.240 --> 0:10:58.640 Okay, it seems like a lot of specifics there. I 0:10:58.679 --> 0:11:00.439 don't know why he was claiming it in the I 0:11:00.480 --> 0:11:02.079 guess it just sounds exciting. 0:11:03.360 --> 0:11:04.240 To their credit. 0:11:04.559 --> 0:11:08.400 After all the complaining we've done about the biased moderators, 0:11:08.840 --> 0:11:10.720 Margaret Brennan brought it up and even followed up. 0:11:10.720 --> 0:11:13.120 But here's the question and answer. 0:11:13.440 --> 0:11:17.600 We want to ask you about your leadership qualities, Governor Walls, 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:20.160 you said you were in Hong Kong during the deadly 0:11:20.200 --> 0:11:23.679 Teneman Square protests in the spring of nineteen eighty nine. 0:11:24.200 --> 0:11:27.280 The Minnesota Public Radio and other media outlets are reporting 0:11:27.320 --> 0:11:31.000 that you actually didn't travel to Asia until August of 0:11:31.040 --> 0:11:34.760 that year. Can you explain that discrepancy? 0:11:35.080 --> 0:11:37.000 Yeah, well, and the folks out there didn't get at 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:37.600 the top of this. 0:11:37.760 --> 0:11:41.080 Look. I grew up in small, rural Nebraska. 0:11:41.160 --> 0:11:43.920 What town of four hundred town that you rode your 0:11:43.920 --> 0:11:45.640 bike with your buddies, still the street lights come on, 0:11:45.720 --> 0:11:47.679 and I'm proud of that service. H I joined the 0:11:47.760 --> 0:11:51.120 National Guard at seventeen, worked on family farms, and then 0:11:51.120 --> 0:11:52.199 I used. 0:11:52.000 --> 0:11:54.760 The gibill to become a teacher. Passion about it. A 0:11:54.800 --> 0:11:55.480 young teacher. 0:11:56.240 --> 0:11:58.199 My first year out, I got the opportunity in the 0:11:58.200 --> 0:12:01.240 summer of eighty nine to travel to China thirty five 0:12:01.320 --> 0:12:03.480 years ago. Be able to do that, I came back 0:12:03.559 --> 0:12:07.640 home and then started a program to take young people there. 0:12:07.679 --> 0:12:10.520 We would take basketball teams, we would take baseball teams, 0:12:10.559 --> 0:12:12.680 we would take dancers, and we would go back and 0:12:12.720 --> 0:12:14.960 forth to China. The issue for that was was to 0:12:14.960 --> 0:12:18.160 try and learn. Now, Look, my community knows who I am. 0:12:18.440 --> 0:12:21.439 They saw where I was at they look. I will 0:12:21.480 --> 0:12:23.200 be the first to tell you I have poured my 0:12:23.240 --> 0:12:24.359 heart into my community. 0:12:24.600 --> 0:12:25.439 I've tried to do. 0:12:25.400 --> 0:12:27.640 The best I can, but I've not been perfect, and 0:12:27.679 --> 0:12:30.400 I'm a knucklehead at times. But it's always been about that. 0:12:30.679 --> 0:12:33.560 Those same people elected me to Congress. 0:12:33.920 --> 0:12:37.320 Wow, Wow, I just thank you for your service to 0:12:37.360 --> 0:12:41.120 the country riding your bike until the street lights came on, 0:12:41.280 --> 0:12:42.520 and I'm proud of that service. 0:12:42.640 --> 0:12:45.319 Yes, why did you make up a story about being 0:12:45.360 --> 0:12:47.800 somewhere you weren't and it's approvable. Look, I grew up 0:12:47.800 --> 0:12:50.240 in a small rural Nebraska town. A tell that you 0:12:50.320 --> 0:12:52.199 rode your bike with your buddies till the street lights 0:12:52.240 --> 0:12:53.920 come on, and I'm proud of that service. 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:56.640 It's like. 0:12:58.400 --> 0:13:02.640 The random word generator, stuck or something. That was odd. 0:13:02.720 --> 0:13:06.040 Problem with wine is it often gets very difficult to 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:09.080 keep everything together when you try to explain it because 0:13:09.120 --> 0:13:12.160 it's inexplainable. And then, well, what was so odd was 0:13:12.200 --> 0:13:15.600 that he he had the phrase I'm proud of that 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:19.160 service in his head to parry the hole he came 0:13:19.240 --> 0:13:19.560 to rank. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:22.600 He didn't deserve thing right in the military. But that's 0:13:22.679 --> 0:13:23.280 just odd. 0:13:23.320 --> 0:13:26.640 You can't to bike riding. You know, I too. 0:13:26.559 --> 0:13:32.240 Served our country in that very same way Clarendon Hills, Illinois, seventies. 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:32.800 Look it up. 0:13:32.880 --> 0:13:37.360 I was there on like teon min tampon, Tim Dang. 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:38.920 The follow up is just as good, but we got 0:13:38.960 --> 0:13:44.959 to take a break. We'll get that next. So in 0:13:45.120 --> 0:13:48.640 last we joined Tim Walls. Ah dang it here comes 0:13:48.679 --> 0:13:49.160 my COVID to. 0:13:49.160 --> 0:13:55.400 Get Oh no, it's everywhere now it's the new variant. 0:13:56.920 --> 0:13:58.480 Remember when that used to be all the talk? 0:14:00.120 --> 0:14:02.480 Oh yeah, variant nine from outer space. 0:14:03.640 --> 0:14:06.120 So when last we joined Tim Wallas, he was asked 0:14:06.120 --> 0:14:08.920 by Margaret Brennan. To her credit, as biased as they were, 0:14:09.600 --> 0:14:11.800 they brought up this topic of him claiming he had 0:14:11.840 --> 0:14:17.400 been in China during the Tieneman Square massacre and you know, 0:14:17.400 --> 0:14:20.720 one of the biggest events in world's history and the 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.320 heck of a thing to be around for and get 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:23.840 to experience, you know, up close. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:26.800 Turns out he wasn't there during that period of time. 0:14:27.280 --> 0:14:30.760 He was serving his country by riding his bike or something. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:31.760 And when I asked. 0:14:31.600 --> 0:14:33.240 About that, he said, Look, I grew up in a 0:14:33.280 --> 0:14:36.440 small world Nebraska town right off the bat, What the 0:14:36.480 --> 0:14:39.040 hell did she did? 0:14:39.080 --> 0:14:43.840 His long rambling answer involving baseball players and dancers or something. 0:14:43.920 --> 0:14:46.760 Did he and his boss Kamala go to some sort 0:14:46.760 --> 0:14:49.000 of seminar where they said, look, if you ever get 0:14:49.040 --> 0:14:51.840 pinned down, you say you grew up in middle class, 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:53.360 you say you're from a small rural town. 0:14:53.440 --> 0:14:55.480 I don't care what the topic is, it's just how 0:14:55.520 --> 0:14:58.680 you get started. Just go with it. I grew up 0:14:58.680 --> 0:14:59.960 in a small world Nebraska. 0:15:00.200 --> 0:15:01.720 To tell me, you rode your bike with your buddies 0:15:01.800 --> 0:15:03.720 till the street lights come on, and I'm proud of 0:15:03.720 --> 0:15:04.240 that service. 0:15:04.280 --> 0:15:06.680 And then he goes up. He goes on with a 0:15:06.720 --> 0:15:07.240 whole bunch. 0:15:07.120 --> 0:15:09.440 Of other stuff about the National Guard, being a teacher 0:15:09.480 --> 0:15:12.120 and all these different things that also are extraneous to 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.320 the whole topic of the whole thing, And so he 0:15:15.360 --> 0:15:18.600 doesn't answer the question, and to Margaret Brenman's credit, she 0:15:18.600 --> 0:15:19.280 doesn't let him. 0:15:19.200 --> 0:15:21.360 Get away with it. Governor. 0:15:21.520 --> 0:15:24.280 Just to follow up on that, the question was, can 0:15:24.320 --> 0:15:25.760 you explain. 0:15:25.520 --> 0:15:28.160 They All I said on this was is I got 0:15:28.200 --> 0:15:31.200 there that summer and misspoke on this, So I will 0:15:31.280 --> 0:15:32.880 just that's what I've said. 0:15:34.480 --> 0:15:35.040 So I was. 0:15:35.040 --> 0:15:39.920 In Hong Kong and China during the democracy protests went 0:15:39.960 --> 0:15:43.080 in and from that I learned a lot of what 0:15:43.240 --> 0:15:44.640 needed to be in governance. 0:15:46.560 --> 0:15:47.320 Thank you, governor. 0:15:48.000 --> 0:15:50.920 So if they are protesters, you roll in the tanks 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:51.880 and machine gun them. 0:15:51.920 --> 0:15:52.880 Is that what you learned? 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:58.600 What I like that he stopped hoping it was over, 0:15:59.000 --> 0:16:01.160 but it wasn't. There's still time left, and Margaret Bretten 0:16:01.200 --> 0:16:01.680 just let it hang. 0:16:01.760 --> 0:16:06.480 Everybody's like, go on, go on, that's flying. 0:16:06.520 --> 0:16:08.560 You need a He's thinking in his head, I need 0:16:08.600 --> 0:16:10.720 a natural conclusion. 0:16:10.120 --> 0:16:10.960 To this statement. 0:16:12.280 --> 0:16:13.280 Nothing's coming. 0:16:13.440 --> 0:16:16.560 And that's what I learned about governance. 0:16:17.480 --> 0:16:20.240 Because as I as I said before, what's so odd 0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.160 about that? 0:16:21.040 --> 0:16:24.960 Should that? 0:16:27.120 --> 0:16:29.960 Why didn't he just say, yeah, that was thirty years ago. 0:16:30.000 --> 0:16:31.400 I thought I was there and June. Turns out it 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:33.520 was August, right after the protest. But the point was 0:16:33.560 --> 0:16:36.280 the country was still raw with emotion about it, and 0:16:36.680 --> 0:16:38.320 holy cow, would a historic. 0:16:38.040 --> 0:16:40.920 I mean that you could have bull pooped your way 0:16:40.920 --> 0:16:42.320 out of that without trying. 0:16:42.440 --> 0:16:44.280 Oh, you grew up in a small town and you 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:46.040 rode your bikes and you're proud of that service. 0:16:47.080 --> 0:16:49.560 And the street lights are on, the street lights were all. 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:52.120 That's when you stopped bike I don't think we're riding 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:52.840 around in the dark. 0:16:52.920 --> 0:16:56.680 We were not. No, no, because that's what they do 0:16:56.720 --> 0:16:58.760 in China. They ride their bikes in the dark. And 0:16:58.800 --> 0:17:01.920 we won't put up with hair in rural Nebraska. 0:17:01.640 --> 0:17:04.000 And we took the oaths when we signed up for 0:17:04.080 --> 0:17:07.280 the bike riding squad. 0:17:07.920 --> 0:17:14.560 My service was a child bike rider. 0:17:12.640 --> 0:17:13.800 Armstrong and Geeddy. 0:17:15.119 --> 0:17:18.760 President Biden over the weekend, wrote a letter to former 0:17:18.800 --> 0:17:21.879 President Jimmy Carter for his one hundredth birthday. The letter, 0:17:23.240 --> 0:17:25.440 no disrespect, but I think when someone's about to turn 0:17:25.480 --> 0:17:31.760 one hundred, you want to pick up the phone. 0:17:32.800 --> 0:17:37.280 Yeah, let's see, Yeah, could beany day sort of. 0:17:37.359 --> 0:17:37.920 That's the joke. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:45.160 I guess Jimmy Carter left office forty forty years ago. 0:17:46.320 --> 0:17:48.200 Correct. That's amazing. 0:17:48.320 --> 0:17:51.320 Wow, And you saw something on TV about it, Katie. 0:17:51.520 --> 0:17:56.199 Well, So they did a ceremonial flyover for his one 0:17:56.240 --> 0:17:59.720 hundredth birthday and they wheeled him out and the paparazzi 0:17:59.720 --> 0:18:01.520 where they and they got a picture of him quote 0:18:01.600 --> 0:18:02.720 watching it happen. 0:18:04.040 --> 0:18:08.760 He doesn't look like he's alive in the photo. His eyes. 0:18:10.080 --> 0:18:12.359 His eyes are closed, his eyes are closed, and he's 0:18:12.359 --> 0:18:14.960 doing the head back, mouth wide open. 0:18:15.480 --> 0:18:18.680 Wow, you know, yeah, you don't know what his communications 0:18:18.800 --> 0:18:19.640 like or whatever, but. 0:18:20.840 --> 0:18:22.200 Yeah, don't trot him out like. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:22.840 I have been. 0:18:23.359 --> 0:18:25.800 I have been involved in not with my family members, 0:18:25.800 --> 0:18:27.399 but I've been involved with a few. 0:18:29.040 --> 0:18:30.840 Are we rolling her out. 0:18:30.680 --> 0:18:32.800 Here into the living room for this birthday party for 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.760 us or for her because she doesn't seem like she 0:18:35.800 --> 0:18:37.040 even knows what's happening. 0:18:37.800 --> 0:18:38.080 Yeah. 0:18:38.160 --> 0:18:41.040 Now, I'm a firm believer in, you know, continuing to 0:18:41.119 --> 0:18:44.480 communicate with people because they can hear if they can't answer, 0:18:44.520 --> 0:18:46.720 and that sort of thing. Maybe rolling them out and 0:18:46.760 --> 0:18:50.159 taking pictures with the five that just seems unfortunate to me. 0:18:50.359 --> 0:18:54.240 But yeah, anyway, Katie brought us a story during a 0:18:54.280 --> 0:18:58.159 brief local segment for our home station about Gabby Newsome 0:18:58.359 --> 0:19:02.159 and a new law. Go ahead and hit that and 0:19:02.160 --> 0:19:07.040 then we'll go from there. Because this is some classic ridiculous, 0:19:07.400 --> 0:19:10.000 populous nonsense California phoniness. 0:19:10.760 --> 0:19:14.359