1 00:00:02,360 --> 00:00:09,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Audio Studios, podcasts, radio news. I'm Stephen Carroll and 2 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 1: this is Here's Why, where we take one news story 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: and explain it in just a few minutes with our 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 1: experts here at Bloomberg. 5 00:00:19,760 --> 00:00:22,720 Speaker 2: If you're a data center CEO, you're feeling pretty good 6 00:00:22,720 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 2: about your business today. Across the board, resources when it 7 00:00:26,079 --> 00:00:29,479 Speaker 2: comes to this data center expansion are extremely stretched. You 8 00:00:29,600 --> 00:00:32,120 Speaker 2: need so much more computing, and the supply is just 9 00:00:32,159 --> 00:00:35,519 Speaker 2: not keeping up with this demand. The development of AII 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 2: is totally blocked and bottlenecked by the development and speed 11 00:00:39,360 --> 00:00:40,599 Speaker 2: of growth of data centers. 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:46,680 Speaker 1: They're the infrastructure underpinning the global artificial intelligence boom. As 13 00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: AI gets more sophisticated, it needs even larger volumes of data, 14 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:54,600 Speaker 1: So data centers are getting bigger and more power hungry. 15 00:00:55,080 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 1: Some tech giants are even building power plants to supply 16 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,800 Speaker 1: these facilities. But now rocket companies like SpaceX and Blue 17 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,720 Speaker 1: Origin are looking at another option that's out of this world. 18 00:01:06,319 --> 00:01:11,679 Speaker 1: Here's why outer space is the next frontier for data centers. 19 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:16,040 Speaker 1: Our Space editor Bruce Einhorn joins us now for more. Bruce, 20 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 1: first of all, why is space being considered as a 21 00:01:19,680 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: good place for data centers. 22 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: In part because of some of the problems here on Earth. 23 00:01:25,400 --> 00:01:30,080 Speaker 2: So the proliferation of data centers is becoming quite controversial, 24 00:01:31,000 --> 00:01:35,120 Speaker 2: and there's increased demand, of course from data centers, and 25 00:01:35,240 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 2: so as people look around for possible alternatives, one option 26 00:01:40,920 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 2: is orbit. Take these gigantic data centers that people don't 27 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:49,400 Speaker 2: want in their neighborhoods or anywhere nearby, Let's put them 28 00:01:49,440 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 2: somewhere else. And there could also be ways to address 29 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 2: some of the problems that data centers create here on 30 00:01:56,200 --> 00:01:58,800 Speaker 2: Earth when it comes to the impact that they have 31 00:01:58,880 --> 00:01:59,600 Speaker 2: on the environment. 32 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,920 Speaker 1: So what are the challenges that would need to be 33 00:02:01,960 --> 00:02:04,480 Speaker 1: overcome to get a data center into space. 34 00:02:05,120 --> 00:02:08,800 Speaker 2: One is just the actual transportation, right getting these things 35 00:02:08,800 --> 00:02:12,560 Speaker 2: into space, and so currently there's something of a rocket 36 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,400 Speaker 2: shortage at the moment because there is such demand to 37 00:02:15,400 --> 00:02:19,120 Speaker 2: be getting satellites into space. If suddenly you want to 38 00:02:19,200 --> 00:02:23,520 Speaker 2: start building large data centers in space as well, you're 39 00:02:23,520 --> 00:02:26,799 Speaker 2: going to need rocket capacity. And so that's one problem 40 00:02:26,880 --> 00:02:29,000 Speaker 2: at the moment is we don't have the rocket capacity. 41 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:32,160 Speaker 2: That's something that companies like SpaceX hope that they'll be 42 00:02:32,600 --> 00:02:36,360 Speaker 2: addressing sometime soon with new rockets. Another issue is just 43 00:02:36,639 --> 00:02:40,440 Speaker 2: logistics just how you actually if and when they're operating 44 00:02:40,520 --> 00:02:42,920 Speaker 2: up there, how do you get all the information that 45 00:02:42,960 --> 00:02:45,560 Speaker 2: you need from there back down to Earth. There's also 46 00:02:45,680 --> 00:02:49,760 Speaker 2: issues about the space environment, things like radiation, and also 47 00:02:49,919 --> 00:02:52,600 Speaker 2: how to address things like you know, data centers create 48 00:02:53,160 --> 00:02:55,079 Speaker 2: a whole lot of heat. You have to have these 49 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:59,359 Speaker 2: giant radiators in space that would then be expelling it out, 50 00:02:59,360 --> 00:03:01,639 Speaker 2: but you can't be sending it back in the direction 51 00:03:01,720 --> 00:03:03,680 Speaker 2: of Earth. You have to position it so that it's 52 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:07,359 Speaker 2: going out into space away from Earth. So lots of 53 00:03:07,360 --> 00:03:08,880 Speaker 2: potential problems. 54 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,399 Speaker 1: But it's some interesting challenges for these companies to be 55 00:03:11,480 --> 00:03:15,240 Speaker 1: thinking about. Ultimately, will this not be much more expensive 56 00:03:15,280 --> 00:03:16,960 Speaker 1: than building data centers on Earth? 57 00:03:18,480 --> 00:03:21,120 Speaker 2: That is a very good question, and it does seem 58 00:03:21,120 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 2: that it is going to cost a whole lot of money. Yes, 59 00:03:23,080 --> 00:03:27,440 Speaker 2: But as I was mentioning earlier, one possibility that rocket 60 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 2: companies look to is reducing the cost of access to space, 61 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:35,640 Speaker 2: and so SpaceX, for instance, working on its giant Starship rocket. 62 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,200 Speaker 2: If and when that rocket is ready to be launching 63 00:03:39,280 --> 00:03:43,120 Speaker 2: multiple times enough to be able to build these things, 64 00:03:43,760 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: the idea is that that will be lowering the cost 65 00:03:46,800 --> 00:03:50,520 Speaker 2: sufficiently that you'll be able to get these things up 66 00:03:50,560 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: there in a way that wouldn't break the bank. 67 00:03:53,080 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 1: Talk to us about who's involved in this, Who are 68 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,480 Speaker 1: the key players that are thinking about and working on this. 69 00:03:58,960 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 2: Well, the first name, of course is SpaceX, and we 70 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 2: at Bloomberg have reported about SpaceX looking toward in IPO 71 00:04:06,800 --> 00:04:11,160 Speaker 2: sometime perhaps this year, and one reason that the company 72 00:04:11,680 --> 00:04:13,760 Speaker 2: would be moving ahead on that is to be able 73 00:04:13,760 --> 00:04:17,880 Speaker 2: to raise money to help fund this project of building 74 00:04:17,920 --> 00:04:21,240 Speaker 2: these data centers in space. So SpaceX is the first 75 00:04:21,240 --> 00:04:23,599 Speaker 2: company need to look to. Another one, of course, would 76 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,880 Speaker 2: be Blue Origin, backed by Jeff Bezos. Not as advanced 77 00:04:26,880 --> 00:04:29,840 Speaker 2: when it comes to rocketry, but they have a new 78 00:04:29,920 --> 00:04:32,880 Speaker 2: rocket that they've launched. They've launched it twice, called the 79 00:04:32,920 --> 00:04:36,040 Speaker 2: New Glen Rocket, So that's getting them into the game 80 00:04:36,080 --> 00:04:40,520 Speaker 2: of heavy launch of satellites and potentially other things. So 81 00:04:40,720 --> 00:04:44,520 Speaker 2: Blue Origin is another company out there. There's also Eric Schmidt, 82 00:04:44,600 --> 00:04:48,520 Speaker 2: former CEO of Google. He controls a rocket startup called 83 00:04:48,520 --> 00:04:52,320 Speaker 2: Relativity Space seems to also have interest in this idea 84 00:04:52,440 --> 00:04:54,200 Speaker 2: of building data centers in space. 85 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:59,160 Speaker 1: How soon could this become a reality. I'm guessing from 86 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:01,279 Speaker 1: what you're telling me it's not too soon. 87 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:04,200 Speaker 2: It's not going to happen very quickly that we're going 88 00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:07,200 Speaker 2: to have these big data centers up there, up and running. 89 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 2: That said, we do have some companies that are taking 90 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:14,800 Speaker 2: the first steps and they're putting small things up in 91 00:05:14,960 --> 00:05:20,239 Speaker 2: orbit that are the beginnings of plans for data centers. 92 00:05:20,279 --> 00:05:24,360 Speaker 2: And so it's not something that is going to happen 93 00:05:24,720 --> 00:05:26,920 Speaker 2: this year, it's not going to be something happening next year. 94 00:05:26,960 --> 00:05:31,400 Speaker 2: But potentially it's not that far out because we do 95 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:34,480 Speaker 2: have companies that are pretty serious about this, that are 96 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 2: raising money, and if all the other things fall into place, 97 00:05:38,720 --> 00:05:41,040 Speaker 2: for instance, getting the big rockets that you need to 98 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:43,799 Speaker 2: be able to launch frequently to get these things up there, 99 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 2: it's possible that it's not that far out. 100 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,400 Speaker 1: Okay, well, one to watch anyway. Bruce Einhorn, our Space editor, 101 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:53,360 Speaker 1: thank you very much for joining us. For more explanations 102 00:05:53,440 --> 00:05:55,760 Speaker 1: like this from our team of three thousands journalists and 103 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:59,680 Speaker 1: analysts around the world, go to Bloomberg dot com slash explainers. 104 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:03,320 Speaker 1: I'm Stephen Carroll. This is here's why. I'll be back 105 00:06:03,360 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 1: next week with more. Thanks for listening.