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Speaker 1: The Ukrainian people are united and resilient, and I learned

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg Sound On with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. Ukraine

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Speaker 1: fastest hour in politics on an historic day. We'll balance

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Speaker 1: We're all watching Ukraine with worry. As a column of

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Speaker 1: Coming up, Apple though, was really something. Did you guys

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Speaker 1: deserve proper, proper claim. Congressman, thank you enjoyed the big

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Speaker 1: show tonight. It is the super Bowl of politics, and

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Speaker 1: of course we're going to be covering it beginning eight

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Speaker 1: Chuck Fleischman. This is Bloomberg. You're listening to Bloomberg. You

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Speaker 1: sound on with Joe Matthew on Bloomberg Radio. It's amazing

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Speaker 1: what you can learn about the State of the Union

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Speaker 1: address by first reading the guest lists. And it's out

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Speaker 1: White House, out with the guest list a short time ago.

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Speaker 1: Those sitting in the first Lady's box tonight watching listening

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Speaker 1: the Ukrainian Ambassador to the US, Oxana Markarova. Maybe we

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Speaker 1: shouldn't be surprised by this. It was just on Bloomberg

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Speaker 1: last week and has been delivering the message from Kiev

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Speaker 1: to Washington for the better part of two weeks. Also,

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Speaker 1: at this Francis Howgan. We talked about Francis Howgan on

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Speaker 1: this program a couple of months ago, the Facebook whistleblower.

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Speaker 1: There's also Pat Gelsinger, this CEO of Intel, A couple

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Speaker 1: That's who we're going to be seeing and likely hearing

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Speaker 1: about tonight from the President. Let's reassemble the panel now

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Speaker 1: as we prepare for the Super Bowl of Politics. They'll

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Speaker 1: eight thirty tonight, Jeannie Chanzano and Rick Davis, Genie, what

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Speaker 1: the Ukrainian ambassador. He's gonna probably have to open the

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Speaker 1: that's build back Better, that's chips, right, he agreed with

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Speaker 1: the China Competes Act. Yeah, and you know that that

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Speaker 1: The Francis how good one. That is the one that

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Speaker 1: just what do you make of that? You know sticks out? Um?

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Speaker 1: product management. Um, I can almost not say it, Joe Matthew,

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Speaker 1: but as a whistle blower no one in Washington as

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Speaker 1: So you know, it's going to be fascinating to see

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Speaker 1: of Francis Hagan on the list here? Rick? What is

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Speaker 1: he planning to talk about? Oh? I think they want

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Speaker 1: invading our privacies. I mean like this is one of

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Speaker 1: but at all all roads lead to Facebook, Rick bashing

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Speaker 1: big tech exactly. Uh. Joseph Joe Joe Burgess described as

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Speaker 1: make of that angle here tonight? Rick, We're not gonna

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Speaker 1: What do we hear from her? I think we're going

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Speaker 1: successes with COVID, particularly keeping schools open, keeping children and

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Speaker 1: magazine calls Governor Reynolds Sarah Palin two point. Oh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I have to ask you if that's true. Boy, you've

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Speaker 1: I think it'll go over well. I mean it's uh,

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Speaker 1: start of a much bigger political career for her? Sometimes

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Speaker 1: these things can flop. Uh most of the time, these

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Speaker 1: And uh. And so I've had many candidates of Bob

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Speaker 1: But look, I mean she's up for reelection. She uh

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Speaker 1: I guess I have to make that distinction these days.

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Speaker 1: It's the fact that we talked like this, uh in

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Speaker 1: That was last year right in response to President of

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Speaker 1: I mean she is somebody who has you know, pet

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Speaker 1: gunn you know, against uncontrol and you know, allowing people

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Speaker 1: the costs that are facing families the kitchen table talk.

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Speaker 1: How does President Biden get ahead of that tonight? You

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Speaker 1: know it's gonna be tough because I know every time

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Speaker 1: an issue that all Americans care most about. This is

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Speaker 1: eight thirty pm Eastern Time with the smartest minds in

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Speaker 1: politics here on Bloomberg Radio and on Bloomberg's TV. As

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Speaker 1: I'll be joined by Jeanie and Rick for the State

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Speaker 1: of the Union. Will also have reports from our correspondence

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Speaker 1: that conversation later on tonight. It's March Rabbit Rabbit, and

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Speaker 1: you know, marches Women's History Month. Every day this month,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna celebrate significant moments in women's history. And with

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Speaker 1: Bloomberg's We Need a Young on This Day in Women's History.

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Speaker 1: In ninetelve, Isabella Goodwin is appointed the first female US detective.

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Speaker 1: She started in the New York City Pol East Department

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Speaker 1: Eddie the boob Kinsman. The department rewarded Goodwin with the

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Speaker 1: first grade Detective Shield. If her story sounds familiar, you

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