1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,520 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,559 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,480 --> 00:00:14,240 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. 4 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:15,840 Speaker 3: Are you ready for a break? 5 00:00:16,120 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 4: Yes? 6 00:00:16,680 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 5: Are you ready for a break? 7 00:00:18,400 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: Absolutely? Ready for a break? 8 00:00:21,280 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:23,600 --> 00:00:27,840 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 10 00:00:29,560 --> 00:00:35,640 Speaker 1: with Amvar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi, and Derek Eagleton. 11 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,280 Speaker 6: It is Tuesday, July twenty second, twenty twenty five, season 12 00:00:40,320 --> 00:00:43,120 Speaker 6: twenty one, episode number fifteen. Welcome to the latest edition 13 00:00:43,600 --> 00:00:46,960 Speaker 6: of The Break. We are live from Oxnard, California. We 14 00:00:47,000 --> 00:00:49,280 Speaker 6: are presented by LGLG as the world's number one olt 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,280 Speaker 6: TV brand for eleven years, incounting Sey at LG dot Com, Force, 16 00:00:52,320 --> 00:00:54,280 Speaker 6: slash O, led Evo. 17 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:56,600 Speaker 5: Got our crew here. This will be our crew for 18 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:57,320 Speaker 5: the season now. 19 00:00:57,520 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 6: Brian brought us Amber Garcia, Vox Lombardy, and we've got 20 00:01:02,000 --> 00:01:04,160 Speaker 6: our whole crew. Won't be out here the entire camp, 21 00:01:04,240 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 6: but we got to think a week when we all 22 00:01:06,040 --> 00:01:08,240 Speaker 6: will be out here this first week and so it 23 00:01:08,280 --> 00:01:11,280 Speaker 6: makesure you guys tune in today and I think we 24 00:01:11,400 --> 00:01:14,000 Speaker 6: go again on Thursday this week, so it makes you 25 00:01:14,040 --> 00:01:15,959 Speaker 6: tune in with us and we'll get you guys caught 26 00:01:16,000 --> 00:01:18,119 Speaker 6: up on everything happening out here in Oxnard, California. 27 00:01:18,280 --> 00:01:22,600 Speaker 5: Yesterday was opening press conference, A lot to talk about. Yeah, 28 00:01:22,880 --> 00:01:23,920 Speaker 5: you know, it was funny. 29 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,160 Speaker 6: Before we came on the air, I saw Brian and 30 00:01:26,240 --> 00:01:29,560 Speaker 6: Botch and Brian asked the question, we are talking about 31 00:01:29,640 --> 00:01:31,840 Speaker 6: the press conference, and I'm like, oh, yeah, we definitely 32 00:01:31,840 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 6: talk about the pres conference. But one of the things 33 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 6: I pointed out was I don't know if everybody's just 34 00:01:36,920 --> 00:01:38,880 Speaker 6: naive or just. 35 00:01:38,959 --> 00:01:41,840 Speaker 5: Loves taking part in the drama. 36 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:43,479 Speaker 2: But this nothing that. 37 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:47,360 Speaker 6: Happened yesterday was a surprise to me. We've seen this before. 38 00:01:47,440 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 6: This is a repeating thing when it comes to contracts. 39 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 6: No one remembers the z cou t shirt and the 40 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:55,400 Speaker 6: whole thing there. No one remembers that, you know, Jerry 41 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,120 Speaker 6: saying we wanted to rush to do a deal with CD, 42 00:01:57,200 --> 00:02:00,040 Speaker 6: and CD putting lol and retweeting it like this. 43 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:03,280 Speaker 5: This happens, It's not. It doesn't end up being. 44 00:02:03,120 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 6: A big deal because eventually the player gets paid, the 45 00:02:06,320 --> 00:02:10,040 Speaker 6: organization has the player, and everybody moves on. What did 46 00:02:10,080 --> 00:02:12,440 Speaker 6: you guys here yesterday with regards to Michael specifically, is 47 00:02:12,440 --> 00:02:13,240 Speaker 6: that's what we're talking about. 48 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 5: What were your thoughts on on Jerry's comments there. 49 00:02:16,040 --> 00:02:19,000 Speaker 3: Well, you've been here for years, so of course, Oh 50 00:02:19,040 --> 00:02:21,120 Speaker 3: this is nothing. The player is gonna get paid and 51 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 3: this is my twentieth time seeing this, and everything's gonna 52 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,160 Speaker 3: be all right. Michael just got here, Michael just got 53 00:02:27,160 --> 00:02:29,320 Speaker 3: here four years ago. Try and get his money right now? 54 00:02:29,600 --> 00:02:32,359 Speaker 3: So does he know behind the scenes this is really 55 00:02:32,360 --> 00:02:34,480 Speaker 3: all about optics at the end of the day, and 56 00:02:34,680 --> 00:02:37,840 Speaker 3: you don't want to be distracting. And maybe we understand 57 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,280 Speaker 3: how Jerry operates. And if I'm dak Man, man, Jared 58 00:02:40,400 --> 00:02:42,919 Speaker 3: just talking, Jared just doing his thing. But TJ wats 59 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,880 Speaker 3: is tweeting now, man, how dare the owner come out 60 00:02:45,919 --> 00:02:48,040 Speaker 3: and talk about the quarterback in the past rusher like 61 00:02:48,080 --> 00:02:50,400 Speaker 3: this and Michael go and retweets it. We don't know 62 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: what that means when in real life, Man, we got 63 00:02:52,639 --> 00:02:55,880 Speaker 3: this brand new head coach, all this good feels good vies, 64 00:02:55,919 --> 00:02:58,359 Speaker 3: but we got to George Pickens in here. Let's not 65 00:02:58,480 --> 00:03:01,280 Speaker 3: set anything a blaze, and Jerry Jones at the snap 66 00:03:01,320 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 3: of his finger. We probably shouldn't pay tears still neatly, 67 00:03:03,560 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 3: you know what I mean? I would have loved it 68 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 3: and look, Jerry on all this so I can shut 69 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,240 Speaker 3: up and go home if I want to. But I 70 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 3: would have loved it if it was just a quiet, 71 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 3: peaceful rallying of the troops and let's have a good camp. 72 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,720 Speaker 3: But instead we're gonna be talking about money and that's annoying. 73 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:21,799 Speaker 7: Well yeah, I think, uh. I hate to say this, 74 00:03:22,000 --> 00:03:24,960 Speaker 7: but I've been here a long time. Just like Derek, 75 00:03:25,040 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 7: almostly out of this is crazy. I want to cry. 76 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 7: But that just shows again to your point, Derek, we 77 00:03:34,200 --> 00:03:38,000 Speaker 7: have lived through comments like these. We know that happens, 78 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 7: It makes headlines, it goes crazy all over Twitter, ex 79 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:46,440 Speaker 7: social media, and then we get it. We go into 80 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 7: that drama, and then at the end of the day, 81 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:52,040 Speaker 7: the player gets signed, they get their money, everybody's hugging 82 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:54,640 Speaker 7: and happy and back here a camp. My problem is 83 00:03:54,680 --> 00:03:58,320 Speaker 7: not those comments. My problem is I remember last year 84 00:03:59,200 --> 00:04:01,600 Speaker 7: my gosh stand and then on that podium over there 85 00:04:02,000 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 7: talking about contract. It has been a full year since 86 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 7: we have been commenting about contract and again understanding that 87 00:04:10,760 --> 00:04:15,400 Speaker 7: Dak was first, then CD now it's Micah. But why 88 00:04:15,440 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 7: are we here at the beginning of camp talking about 89 00:04:18,640 --> 00:04:20,880 Speaker 7: this And there's a lot of stuff that we don't know. 90 00:04:21,120 --> 00:04:25,000 Speaker 7: Just like Jerry mentioned, it goes both ways. It happens 91 00:04:25,040 --> 00:04:27,719 Speaker 7: on that side too. They might be sitting here willing 92 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:30,880 Speaker 7: to offer this, but then Micah's party might be the 93 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:33,840 Speaker 7: one saying, hey, hold on, that's not where we're at. 94 00:04:33,880 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 7: And there it takes both sides to come to an agreement. 95 00:04:38,440 --> 00:04:40,560 Speaker 7: But you know, when they want to get things done, 96 00:04:40,600 --> 00:04:43,840 Speaker 7: they get it done. So either way, I just hate 97 00:04:43,839 --> 00:04:46,600 Speaker 7: that we're here talking about this rather than say, hey, 98 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,120 Speaker 7: we're excited to see Micah on the field today. Let's 99 00:04:49,120 --> 00:04:49,920 Speaker 7: see how that goes. 100 00:04:50,360 --> 00:04:53,040 Speaker 2: Yeah, I think that to me, this is this is 101 00:04:53,120 --> 00:04:56,400 Speaker 2: if I'm Brian Schottenheimer and I'm sitting there listening to 102 00:04:56,480 --> 00:04:59,440 Speaker 2: all this go about, I'm a little bit like man, 103 00:04:59,520 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 2: I want momentium, I want positive thoughts, I want everything. 104 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 4: This whole real offseason. 105 00:05:04,800 --> 00:05:07,880 Speaker 2: Has been since he's been name head coach has been 106 00:05:07,920 --> 00:05:11,120 Speaker 2: about the vibe of how things players tweeting about, hey 107 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:12,960 Speaker 2: fun again, have football? 108 00:05:13,040 --> 00:05:13,919 Speaker 4: All these things. 109 00:05:14,279 --> 00:05:17,400 Speaker 2: You know, the one thing that Brian Schottenheimer doesn't need 110 00:05:17,440 --> 00:05:20,880 Speaker 2: to have happen is every day us in the media 111 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:24,719 Speaker 2: look and see Michael Parson's not practicing that. That is 112 00:05:24,760 --> 00:05:27,320 Speaker 2: going to be difficult he's going to have to answer 113 00:05:27,680 --> 00:05:31,920 Speaker 2: those questions every single day, you know. And to Ambar's point, 114 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 2: and I think it's a really really good one, there's 115 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:37,279 Speaker 2: two sides to this thing, you know, there's two sides 116 00:05:37,320 --> 00:05:40,880 Speaker 2: of way contract negotiations go. And I will say this though, 117 00:05:41,480 --> 00:05:44,280 Speaker 2: David Mulagetta is really really good at his job. But 118 00:05:44,320 --> 00:05:46,320 Speaker 2: to be honest with you, he has done a really 119 00:05:46,360 --> 00:05:49,800 Speaker 2: good thing on his client's behalf of waiting for some 120 00:05:49,880 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 2: of these other contracts to get done, it's only made 121 00:05:52,760 --> 00:05:56,400 Speaker 2: his position stronger. But you know, Jerry and Steven have 122 00:05:56,480 --> 00:05:59,240 Speaker 2: come out and talked about leadership and how important that is. 123 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,040 Speaker 2: I think this deal might have been done like Amber 124 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:05,000 Speaker 2: wanted to earlier, if Micah Parsons maybe in the first 125 00:06:05,040 --> 00:06:07,560 Speaker 2: couple of years would have been that leader, would have 126 00:06:07,600 --> 00:06:10,440 Speaker 2: been like Dak Prescott, would have made it easier on 127 00:06:10,480 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 2: the Cowboys to be able to say, Okay, we've got 128 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 2: a guy that has bought in. He's about the team, 129 00:06:16,240 --> 00:06:20,560 Speaker 2: instead of now we get the leadership appearance when the 130 00:06:20,640 --> 00:06:23,920 Speaker 2: contract is trying to get negotiated. Maybe if this thing 131 00:06:24,000 --> 00:06:26,080 Speaker 2: was if Michael was done a little bit sooner. As 132 00:06:26,080 --> 00:06:27,560 Speaker 2: far as him wanting to be a leader of this 133 00:06:27,600 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 2: football team, he'd have this thing done. 134 00:06:29,839 --> 00:06:31,240 Speaker 6: You know, And as you bring it up, I think 135 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:34,080 Speaker 6: the interesting part is Jerry spent quite a bit of 136 00:06:34,120 --> 00:06:35,800 Speaker 6: time and it's not a getting as much press, but 137 00:06:35,839 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 6: to be honest with you, that to me was the 138 00:06:38,120 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 6: story of the press. That's what he was saying about 139 00:06:41,080 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 6: Trayvon Diggs and about leadership. 140 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 5: And I think I think for. 141 00:06:45,440 --> 00:06:47,039 Speaker 6: Fans out there watching, I think what you have to 142 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:50,599 Speaker 6: understand is there are only a few players on and 143 00:06:50,640 --> 00:06:52,680 Speaker 6: it's not just the Cowboys, it's most teams around the NFL. 144 00:06:52,839 --> 00:06:54,560 Speaker 6: There are a few players that take up the vast 145 00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,719 Speaker 6: majority of the cap on most teams. Here at the Cowboys, 146 00:06:57,720 --> 00:06:59,600 Speaker 6: I think there is an expectation when you were one 147 00:06:59,600 --> 00:07:01,720 Speaker 6: of those players that takes up most of the cap, 148 00:07:02,279 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 6: You're not being plaid. You're not being paid just to 149 00:07:05,120 --> 00:07:07,680 Speaker 6: be a great player, right. You're being paid to be 150 00:07:07,720 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 6: a great player, plus be a good locker room guy, 151 00:07:11,760 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 6: be a good leader, be a good representative in the community. 152 00:07:15,920 --> 00:07:18,520 Speaker 6: It's all those other things that you're being paid for 153 00:07:18,600 --> 00:07:20,440 Speaker 6: that goes far beyond just what you do on. 154 00:07:20,400 --> 00:07:21,320 Speaker 5: The football field. 155 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 6: And I think Jerry made that clear yesterday was talking 156 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 6: about Trayvon Diggs. The expectation was, and it was even 157 00:07:26,640 --> 00:07:28,600 Speaker 6: in the contract, like he was going to get that. 158 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 6: And I assume it was structured as a bonus like 159 00:07:31,080 --> 00:07:33,800 Speaker 6: a workout. Absolutely, here you get a workout bonus. Absolutely, 160 00:07:33,840 --> 00:07:36,040 Speaker 6: but if you're not here, you don't get that. And 161 00:07:36,080 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 6: again it points to the fact that that was the 162 00:07:38,240 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 6: expectation with the money he got, was he was gonna 163 00:07:40,720 --> 00:07:42,880 Speaker 6: be here, he was gonna be a leader. And I 164 00:07:42,920 --> 00:07:45,520 Speaker 6: also think part of what he said yesterday about Trayvon 165 00:07:46,120 --> 00:07:48,600 Speaker 6: was kind of a nod to all those other guys, 166 00:07:48,640 --> 00:07:51,280 Speaker 6: including Micah, who either are making that money or will 167 00:07:51,280 --> 00:07:54,000 Speaker 6: be making that money in the future. The expectation is 168 00:07:54,040 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 6: greater than just being a great player to make that 169 00:07:55,800 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 6: kind of money. 170 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,840 Speaker 3: All I want to know is if the Cowboys are 171 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:01,400 Speaker 3: truly in this win now type of mode. It seems 172 00:08:01,440 --> 00:08:04,600 Speaker 3: like they drafted to, you know, play these guys now. 173 00:08:04,640 --> 00:08:06,600 Speaker 3: They gave up this third round pick. They never give 174 00:08:06,680 --> 00:08:08,200 Speaker 3: up the third round picks to go get this guy 175 00:08:08,400 --> 00:08:09,960 Speaker 3: that can play for you right now that's on a 176 00:08:10,000 --> 00:08:12,400 Speaker 3: one year contract that needs money. I would assume that 177 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:15,280 Speaker 3: the Cowboys would want to move with some sort of urgency. 178 00:08:15,320 --> 00:08:18,320 Speaker 3: I just want to know, is the contract language worth 179 00:08:18,320 --> 00:08:21,040 Speaker 3: fighting for this long time dragging this thing out, because 180 00:08:21,080 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 3: the one thing that I don't want is Micah missing, 181 00:08:23,920 --> 00:08:26,960 Speaker 3: missing missing. Okay, we're just gonna sign them anyway. Going 182 00:08:27,000 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 3: into week one, and Michael looks weird for six weeks before, 183 00:08:29,760 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 3: like he's not practicing, he hasn't gotten into that game shape. 184 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:35,960 Speaker 3: This isn't the year with this schedule, this tough schedule, 185 00:08:35,960 --> 00:08:37,560 Speaker 3: by the way, this ain't the year that you want 186 00:08:37,600 --> 00:08:40,319 Speaker 3: Michaeh looking strange for about six weeks. You got Philly 187 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,480 Speaker 3: week one. You want Michael to be good and in 188 00:08:42,520 --> 00:08:45,480 Speaker 3: football shaped immediately. I wonder if that language is worth 189 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:45,840 Speaker 3: fighting for. 190 00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:47,800 Speaker 6: Well, that's an interesting question that brings up. And I 191 00:08:47,800 --> 00:08:49,240 Speaker 6: have this question for all you guys. I saw an 192 00:08:49,320 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 6: article yesterday. I want to say it was Joe Hoyt, 193 00:08:52,920 --> 00:08:55,760 Speaker 6: not positive about yeah, but it was an article. It's 194 00:08:55,800 --> 00:08:58,439 Speaker 6: interesting article because it was talking about how there have 195 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,680 Speaker 6: been a couple of pass rushers, the best pass rushers 196 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:03,199 Speaker 6: in the league, who missed camp because they have contracts, 197 00:09:03,720 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 6: came to the season and have phenomenal years. 198 00:09:06,480 --> 00:09:07,520 Speaker 5: And it brought up the question. 199 00:09:07,520 --> 00:09:10,320 Speaker 6: The question that the articles posing was is Micah that 200 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:12,199 Speaker 6: kind of guy, because I hear what you're saying. 201 00:09:12,400 --> 00:09:13,240 Speaker 5: You're saying, I want. 202 00:09:13,160 --> 00:09:15,839 Speaker 6: Him to be at his best, But the article is 203 00:09:15,880 --> 00:09:18,800 Speaker 6: saying these other guys who are that same ilk a 204 00:09:18,800 --> 00:09:21,360 Speaker 6: pass rusher, they were able to jump in without going 205 00:09:21,360 --> 00:09:23,679 Speaker 6: to training camp and have those kinds of seasons. 206 00:09:23,840 --> 00:09:25,160 Speaker 5: Where do you think Michael falls there? 207 00:09:25,200 --> 00:09:27,600 Speaker 3: All I know is I work here and CD was 208 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: looking weird for for a couple of weeks, timing wise 209 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 3: with does. 210 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 5: Position make a difference? And that's a good thing. 211 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:33,760 Speaker 6: You know, when you talk about receiver, you kind of 212 00:09:33,800 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 6: have to be on the same page with the quarterback. 213 00:09:36,320 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: Zach Martin was looking weird for for a handful of weeks. 214 00:09:39,160 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 3: It could be just what the Cowboys do to where Okay, 215 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:43,920 Speaker 3: well maybe we're taking it might it might have been 216 00:09:43,920 --> 00:09:45,920 Speaker 3: a Mia McCarthy think, like we take days off. 217 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:47,480 Speaker 4: It's not shaded. 218 00:09:50,640 --> 00:09:53,520 Speaker 3: Whatever it is that's making players look kind of weird 219 00:09:53,559 --> 00:09:55,640 Speaker 3: for you know, six weeks. You know, like maybe that 220 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:57,960 Speaker 3: maybe that should be looked at. I don't have the answers. 221 00:09:58,000 --> 00:09:59,920 Speaker 3: I work at Dallas Cowboys dot com, So. 222 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:07,200 Speaker 7: Yeah, I was gonna say, I think for me, the difference, 223 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:09,160 Speaker 7: even though I do think he can he is that 224 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,440 Speaker 7: type of player that can come in and play at 225 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 7: a high level. The difference here is you have a 226 00:10:13,760 --> 00:10:17,479 Speaker 7: change in coaching staff, you have a change of player personnel. 227 00:10:17,760 --> 00:10:20,680 Speaker 7: So I think there's something to be said in that 228 00:10:20,960 --> 00:10:23,400 Speaker 7: time that you are able to spend with the coaches 229 00:10:24,160 --> 00:10:27,000 Speaker 7: and the people and build and the other your teammates, 230 00:10:27,040 --> 00:10:29,839 Speaker 7: building that chemistry that is very much needed and something 231 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:36,080 Speaker 7: that Brian Shecheltenheimer has continued to emphasize, and to your point, 232 00:10:36,160 --> 00:10:39,720 Speaker 7: with injured players like Trevon Diggs. Something that that he 233 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 7: mentioned in the press conference was that caught my attention 234 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 7: was his emphasis in players that are hurt to be 235 00:10:48,160 --> 00:10:51,760 Speaker 7: here and coach and teach the younger guys and the 236 00:10:51,800 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 7: way that they're able to learn doing that. So I 237 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:59,679 Speaker 7: just I hope it's not a city scenario that it 238 00:10:59,760 --> 00:11:02,199 Speaker 7: have worry it takes a few weeks because we have 239 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:03,920 Speaker 7: that Felly game week one. 240 00:11:03,800 --> 00:11:05,960 Speaker 2: So you know, it's interesting about that. It might be 241 00:11:06,120 --> 00:11:08,640 Speaker 2: just the position of how rare those guys are. So 242 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:11,640 Speaker 2: it just might be that that those edge rushers that 243 00:11:11,760 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 2: everybody values so much, they have just the ability to 244 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:18,680 Speaker 2: snap their fingers and go out there and rush the passer. Yeah, 245 00:11:18,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 2: and I think That's why maybe some of these guys 246 00:11:20,880 --> 00:11:23,319 Speaker 2: have been able to kind of not have a lot 247 00:11:23,360 --> 00:11:24,880 Speaker 2: of train cap, but all of a sudden it turns 248 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 2: into muscle memory. I know how to break down an 249 00:11:27,679 --> 00:11:30,480 Speaker 2: offensive tackle. And that's why maybe there a little bit 250 00:11:30,679 --> 00:11:32,400 Speaker 2: if I could on Digs real quick. I know, Derek 251 00:11:32,440 --> 00:11:35,280 Speaker 2: you Gerberg take to somewhere else, but on Diggs I 252 00:11:35,720 --> 00:11:41,120 Speaker 2: did since a large amount of frustration from Jerry Jones 253 00:11:41,800 --> 00:11:45,439 Speaker 2: and I and I sensed it from the we've been 254 00:11:45,520 --> 00:11:49,679 Speaker 2: down this road before. You know, yes, we extended you, 255 00:11:50,160 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 2: we made a deal with you last year. You know, 256 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 2: he's even come out and talked about how the rehab 257 00:11:54,840 --> 00:11:57,680 Speaker 2: went last year, and then now we're kind of going 258 00:11:57,720 --> 00:12:00,360 Speaker 2: down the same path, you know, And I think that's 259 00:12:00,400 --> 00:12:03,960 Speaker 2: the frustration level of Jerry Jones. I signed you, we 260 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,760 Speaker 2: had some problems, and now you're staying away again, and 261 00:12:07,800 --> 00:12:09,760 Speaker 2: I thought we kind of went through this. That that's 262 00:12:09,800 --> 00:12:13,160 Speaker 2: the frustration I sent. Since I will say this also too, 263 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:15,240 Speaker 2: and I've been a part of teams that have done this. 264 00:12:15,840 --> 00:12:18,360 Speaker 2: Brian Schottenheimer and these coaches are not about to become 265 00:12:18,440 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: good cop bad cop. They're about to you know, you 266 00:12:21,480 --> 00:12:24,400 Speaker 2: hear the players, hear all this that's going on right now, 267 00:12:24,480 --> 00:12:26,760 Speaker 2: the guys that were brought out, and then there's going 268 00:12:26,840 --> 00:12:28,680 Speaker 2: to be coaches walking up and they're going to say. 269 00:12:28,679 --> 00:12:31,679 Speaker 4: He says, listen, it's you and I. Man, listen, I 270 00:12:32,040 --> 00:12:32,599 Speaker 4: believe in you. 271 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 2: I know, hey, it's kind of rough right now with 272 00:12:35,200 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 2: front office, and please just hey, trust me, trust me 273 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:39,480 Speaker 2: the world. 274 00:12:39,520 --> 00:12:41,280 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's you and I. And so you get that 275 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:42,200 Speaker 4: good cop, bad cop. 276 00:12:42,200 --> 00:12:44,400 Speaker 2: And I've been a part of organizations where that's happened 277 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:46,720 Speaker 2: quite a bit where the coach has had to walk 278 00:12:46,760 --> 00:12:49,040 Speaker 2: in there and put his arm around the player and 279 00:12:49,080 --> 00:12:53,920 Speaker 2: tell him, hey, I'll handle that. You just you worry 280 00:12:53,920 --> 00:12:56,440 Speaker 2: about yourself and you worry about how we can how 281 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:56,920 Speaker 2: we can. 282 00:12:56,800 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 4: Win games together. 283 00:12:57,920 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 2: Yeah, and I think that's what now Brian Shott sitting 284 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:03,720 Speaker 2: up on that podium yesterday, he realizes now he's gonna 285 00:13:03,760 --> 00:13:04,600 Speaker 2: have to go play good cop. 286 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 5: I will say this. 287 00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:09,320 Speaker 6: I do think people like Dak, people like CD who've 288 00:13:09,320 --> 00:13:11,719 Speaker 6: been here. And I know Batch you said you're new 289 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 6: to this, but and Micah's knew, I guess relatively new 290 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:15,400 Speaker 6: to this. 291 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:16,880 Speaker 5: Sure, those two guys are not. 292 00:13:17,240 --> 00:13:19,320 Speaker 6: And they are some of the loudest voices and most 293 00:13:19,320 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 6: respective voices in that locker room. 294 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:23,080 Speaker 5: And I guarantee you. I guarantee you. 295 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:26,920 Speaker 6: The times I've been around Dak and had opportunities to 296 00:13:27,000 --> 00:13:29,640 Speaker 6: interact with him, I guarantee you what he's saying to 297 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:32,520 Speaker 6: people right now players in that locker room is don't 298 00:13:32,520 --> 00:13:34,600 Speaker 6: mind any of that stuff, right, that's all just for 299 00:13:34,679 --> 00:13:37,760 Speaker 6: the media. They're doing their thing, they're having fun whatever. 300 00:13:38,120 --> 00:13:40,080 Speaker 6: At the end of the day, things will work out 301 00:13:40,120 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 6: as they're supposed to do. Don't take anything personal. We've 302 00:13:42,880 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 6: seen this before. I've even seen literally it was we 303 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:49,600 Speaker 6: were doing a shoot, a video shoot with with Micah 304 00:13:49,760 --> 00:13:52,400 Speaker 6: a couple months ago during the off season, and Jerry 305 00:13:52,400 --> 00:13:56,040 Speaker 6: walks in and they start talking and they're yacking it 306 00:13:56,120 --> 00:13:58,800 Speaker 6: up like you know, old time best friends. And this 307 00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:01,320 Speaker 6: is while everything's going on the media that's talking about, 308 00:14:01,360 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 6: like is their acrimony and the cowboys, And it just 309 00:14:04,360 --> 00:14:06,640 Speaker 6: reiterated to me, No, a lot of that stuff that 310 00:14:06,720 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 6: the media is kind of thinking, Oh my god, this 311 00:14:09,320 --> 00:14:10,400 Speaker 6: means that Mike's mad. 312 00:14:10,760 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 5: It's not like that. 313 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 6: This is business and these guys know how to separate it, like, 314 00:14:14,320 --> 00:14:17,640 Speaker 6: they know how to compartmentalize, right, they know businesses business, 315 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:20,200 Speaker 6: and it doesn't affect necessarily all the other stuff and 316 00:14:20,240 --> 00:14:21,200 Speaker 6: the friendliness that we have. 317 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:22,600 Speaker 5: I'll put it to you like this. 318 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 6: We've seen this over the years so many times where 319 00:14:25,200 --> 00:14:27,520 Speaker 6: Jerry has been at an impasse with a player on 320 00:14:27,560 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 6: a contract situation. How often do you hear players once 321 00:14:31,360 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 6: they leave the Cowboys, which would be the time they 322 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:35,360 Speaker 6: would do it, come out public and be like, man, 323 00:14:35,400 --> 00:14:39,040 Speaker 6: I can't stand Jerry. They love him, and I think 324 00:14:39,040 --> 00:14:41,880 Speaker 6: it's because they get it. They understand like that's all 325 00:14:41,920 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 6: the media stuff that has nothing to do with the relationship, 326 00:14:45,080 --> 00:14:47,400 Speaker 6: and that's where I'm just like, I think we're all 327 00:14:47,440 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 6: playing along and it's fun. 328 00:14:49,000 --> 00:14:51,000 Speaker 5: Even on this show. We spent a whole segment now 329 00:14:51,000 --> 00:14:53,160 Speaker 5: talking about it. It's fun. We'll talk about it at 330 00:14:53,160 --> 00:14:53,800 Speaker 5: the end of the day. 331 00:14:53,920 --> 00:14:56,760 Speaker 6: The deal's gonna get done, the guy's gonna get paid, 332 00:14:57,160 --> 00:14:58,360 Speaker 6: the Cowboys are gonna. 333 00:14:58,160 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 5: Have their player, and everybody's gonna be happy. 334 00:15:00,360 --> 00:15:02,760 Speaker 2: All well and good. That deal will get done. The 335 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 2: dig stuff is for real, right, that's all the dig stuff. 336 00:15:05,920 --> 00:15:09,680 Speaker 2: The dig stuff is not the hey slap tickle. 337 00:15:09,520 --> 00:15:10,400 Speaker 4: Touchy feely thing. 338 00:15:10,880 --> 00:15:11,120 Speaker 3: You know. 339 00:15:11,280 --> 00:15:15,400 Speaker 2: That's not right now, that's not that's not what we're doing. 340 00:15:15,440 --> 00:15:15,600 Speaker 7: Right. 341 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:19,200 Speaker 2: No, this no, this is like, this is something that 342 00:15:19,240 --> 00:15:21,880 Speaker 2: to me is really serious. You know they they are 343 00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,040 Speaker 2: you know the Parson stuff. Absolutely, they have an idea 344 00:15:25,080 --> 00:15:28,240 Speaker 2: where these numbers are. It's up to David Mullagetta and 345 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 2: Adam and Stephen Jones and those guys to get this 346 00:15:31,120 --> 00:15:35,160 Speaker 2: thing done. That dig stuff is real, that's real. 347 00:15:35,720 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 3: That was the part that start. 348 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:40,560 Speaker 4: That part of it to me is yes, Micah gets done. 349 00:15:40,600 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 2: But Diggs, that was that was a that was alert, 350 00:15:44,440 --> 00:15:47,400 Speaker 2: that was like, Okay, if you're gonna do this, then 351 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,200 Speaker 2: please know this is how I feel about what you're doing. 352 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,880 Speaker 2: It was like, oh wow, how do you give up 353 00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,640 Speaker 2: five hundred thousand dollars? He did it just I don't care. 354 00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:58,960 Speaker 2: And Jerry's like, all right, I negotiated you to be here. 355 00:15:59,040 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: That was part of my That's why I paid you 356 00:16:01,320 --> 00:16:04,000 Speaker 2: that money. Part of this was that you said you 357 00:16:04,040 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: would be here eighty some odd percent of the workouts 358 00:16:07,200 --> 00:16:10,280 Speaker 2: and you weren't. So now you're and Jerry's and Steve 359 00:16:10,280 --> 00:16:12,360 Speaker 2: are real quick to always remind you too. All these 360 00:16:12,360 --> 00:16:16,640 Speaker 2: players are under contract. They're all under contract. So I yeah, 361 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:21,080 Speaker 2: the whole thing with Micah get done. 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Cowboys will 435 00:19:28,480 --> 00:19:30,240 Speaker 6: have a practice here in just a little bit of 436 00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:33,679 Speaker 6: eleven forty five specific time, if you can check the 437 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,080 Speaker 6: website in the mobile app before the full training camp schedule. 438 00:19:36,080 --> 00:19:37,480 Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, speaking of the mobile app, 439 00:19:37,720 --> 00:19:39,359 Speaker 6: if you don't have it, go download it. We just 440 00:19:39,480 --> 00:19:41,919 Speaker 6: upgraded that thing and it is humming. It is a 441 00:19:42,000 --> 00:19:43,879 Speaker 6: very top that says training camp. You can see the 442 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:46,840 Speaker 6: entire training camp schedule. Every day there will be practices 443 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,200 Speaker 6: and every other piece of information you need to know 444 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 6: about training camp and how to attend both here and 445 00:19:52,200 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 6: hopefully when we are back in Oxennar I'm sorry in Frisco. 446 00:19:55,720 --> 00:19:59,240 Speaker 6: So that all being said, let's see guys that are 447 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 6: that are kind of may be interested in doing you know, 448 00:20:01,520 --> 00:20:04,160 Speaker 6: early deals, get a deal done before their deal is up, 449 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:06,520 Speaker 6: that we might have some of those conversations here at 450 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,000 Speaker 6: training camp. I thought that was an interesting comment. He 451 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,960 Speaker 6: did not specify the players, but I thought i'd throw 452 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:12,399 Speaker 6: it out to you. 453 00:20:12,440 --> 00:20:14,639 Speaker 5: Guys, what players do you think would be next? 454 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,359 Speaker 6: If you if you're assuming that the deal's gonna get 455 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 6: done with Mike at some point, who's next beyond that? 456 00:20:20,359 --> 00:20:23,640 Speaker 5: You would say it would be smart like them to maybe. 457 00:20:23,440 --> 00:20:25,159 Speaker 6: Go ahead and do a deal now, as opposed to 458 00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:26,440 Speaker 6: waiting until their deal is up. 459 00:20:27,080 --> 00:20:30,480 Speaker 3: Well, it's interesting because yeah, we you know, we're talking 460 00:20:30,520 --> 00:20:33,320 Speaker 3: to guys get deals done now. But Jerry just a 461 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:36,120 Speaker 3: little bit ago, which I think he really means it, like, hey, 462 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,520 Speaker 3: should we have gone so early with these deals or 463 00:20:38,560 --> 00:20:41,960 Speaker 3: this deal here? So maybe they're thinking about the caliber 464 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:44,879 Speaker 3: of player that they're possibly gonna go early on deals. 465 00:20:44,920 --> 00:20:47,919 Speaker 3: For Tyler Smith, for sure, he's gonna get his and 466 00:20:47,960 --> 00:20:50,520 Speaker 3: they're they talking to him right now. I would imagine 467 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 3: Brandon Aubrey's probably gonna get a whole bunch of money. 468 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:56,840 Speaker 3: Besides that, I don't know who would be a top 469 00:20:56,880 --> 00:20:59,439 Speaker 3: tier player that's on that list. Deron Bland could be 470 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 3: on the are we paying him too early? Lists? They 471 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:02,960 Speaker 3: might want to. I don't know what the. 472 00:21:02,880 --> 00:21:04,520 Speaker 5: Deal is with Why would you why would you put 473 00:21:04,600 --> 00:21:05,080 Speaker 5: him on that list? 474 00:21:05,400 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 3: I mean, I don't know. I want when I look 475 00:21:07,720 --> 00:21:11,160 Speaker 3: at when I when I look at Tyler Smith. He's 476 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:14,320 Speaker 3: top two best guards in the league. Brandon Auvey might 477 00:21:14,359 --> 00:21:16,879 Speaker 3: be the best kicker in the league. Bland is in 478 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 3: there somewhere a player that you would love to have 479 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:21,840 Speaker 3: on your team. If I'm listening to Jerry, maybe they 480 00:21:21,880 --> 00:21:25,080 Speaker 3: want to keep themselves safe from these players that are cool, 481 00:21:25,119 --> 00:21:28,600 Speaker 3: but maybe we can find another like them, These untouchable players. 482 00:21:28,640 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 3: I would imagine those are the guys that they're talking 483 00:21:30,760 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 3: to with a with a serious face right now. Jake Ferguson, 484 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,960 Speaker 3: for example, Dak loves him. You know, he's done some 485 00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 3: things here. Maybe wasn't all that great last year. But 486 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 3: is he a guy, this untouchable that you're shooting for 487 00:21:41,840 --> 00:21:43,440 Speaker 3: early to try, you know, to try to save a 488 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,159 Speaker 3: little bit of money. Steven may may say maybe, but 489 00:21:46,240 --> 00:21:48,399 Speaker 3: based on what Jerry Jones says, maybe we pay you 490 00:21:48,440 --> 00:21:50,120 Speaker 3: guys a little too early. I don't think that Jake's 491 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 3: one of those guys, So it maybe depends on the 492 00:21:51,960 --> 00:21:52,800 Speaker 3: caliber the player. 493 00:21:52,920 --> 00:21:55,280 Speaker 7: I would put Durn Bland on the list for sure. 494 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:59,040 Speaker 7: I think when you look at the cornerback group and 495 00:21:59,119 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 7: you see what you have, you are easily able to 496 00:22:02,680 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 7: find the value that Darron Bland brings to this scene, 497 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:10,200 Speaker 7: especially with this Trevon Digs conversation. Darn Bland personality wise 498 00:22:10,480 --> 00:22:14,160 Speaker 7: completely opposite Darron blanch He focuses on what he needs 499 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:14,480 Speaker 7: to do. 500 00:22:15,119 --> 00:22:15,960 Speaker 2: He shows up. 501 00:22:16,080 --> 00:22:20,160 Speaker 7: He's low key type of player, you know, doesn't cause 502 00:22:20,200 --> 00:22:23,679 Speaker 7: any trouble, doesn't cause any drama. Not that I'm not 503 00:22:23,680 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 7: saying that about Treblon Dicks, but I'm just saying he's 504 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 7: just a low key player that's going to show up, 505 00:22:27,840 --> 00:22:29,520 Speaker 7: do the rehab that he needs to do, do the 506 00:22:29,560 --> 00:22:32,480 Speaker 7: work that he needs to do, and just be part 507 00:22:32,520 --> 00:22:35,080 Speaker 7: of the team and you don't have to worry about him. 508 00:22:35,440 --> 00:22:38,040 Speaker 7: The only issue that he's had in his career is 509 00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:40,720 Speaker 7: the little injury that he dealt with, and coming back 510 00:22:40,720 --> 00:22:42,760 Speaker 7: from that, I think he did a very nice job 511 00:22:42,800 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 7: and he's a very consistent player that he has shown 512 00:22:46,359 --> 00:22:50,120 Speaker 7: you what he's capable of doing. So you could say, oh, 513 00:22:50,160 --> 00:22:52,640 Speaker 7: easily replaceable in a way, but after you look at 514 00:22:52,960 --> 00:22:55,200 Speaker 7: the guys that you have on the roster at the position, 515 00:22:55,280 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 7: You're like, eh, maybe he's a little more valuable than that. 516 00:22:58,080 --> 00:23:01,479 Speaker 3: We all love quiet, low key, working players, but we 517 00:23:01,600 --> 00:23:04,240 Speaker 3: like better dudes much better than that. I would be 518 00:23:04,320 --> 00:23:06,800 Speaker 3: on the phone with Piggins and his people. 519 00:23:06,880 --> 00:23:09,800 Speaker 4: See that's where is a guy I was gonna go. 520 00:23:10,560 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 5: You know, you don't want to see how that plays out, 521 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:14,440 Speaker 5: just to go for it. 522 00:23:14,520 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 3: As long as he's not getting the rented in which 523 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:18,720 Speaker 3: he hasn't been, and as long as he ain't hitting nobody. 524 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,640 Speaker 5: And she had got that guy anyway, I don't even start. 525 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:23,680 Speaker 5: I betting I'm getting people thinking because I don't. People 526 00:23:23,680 --> 00:23:25,760 Speaker 5: tend to automatically. 527 00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 3: So let me be clear. And he ain't hitting nobody. 528 00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:31,320 Speaker 4: I was patiently waiting for that. 529 00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:32,760 Speaker 3: Pickins is a guy that I would be on the. 530 00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 2: Phone because to me, that's where I would start, just 531 00:23:35,520 --> 00:23:36,680 Speaker 2: to see where it's at. 532 00:23:36,880 --> 00:23:39,040 Speaker 4: I will say this though, real quickly about Smith. 533 00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:42,320 Speaker 2: If you could work some kind of tyrant Smith deal, 534 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,520 Speaker 2: how they got that thing long term? 535 00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,480 Speaker 3: And this this this c. 536 00:23:49,080 --> 00:23:52,679 Speaker 2: This with this situation with if you look at the 537 00:23:52,680 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 2: way guards are now in the National Football League, they're 538 00:23:55,040 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 2: starting to get paid and you need to stay ahead 539 00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 2: of that one. But the one, like I said, and 540 00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,400 Speaker 2: all those that that that makes a lot of sense, 541 00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:05,120 Speaker 2: don't get me wrong. I would start on the pickings 542 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,320 Speaker 2: when right now I would say, okay, listen, we're interested 543 00:24:08,320 --> 00:24:11,000 Speaker 2: in doing this if you want some security, you. 544 00:24:10,960 --> 00:24:11,960 Speaker 4: Know you have you? 545 00:24:11,960 --> 00:24:14,480 Speaker 2: Did your guy feel good about being around our guys? 546 00:24:14,680 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 4: Does he like DAK? 547 00:24:15,640 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 2: Does he like CD? 548 00:24:16,960 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 4: Does he like with Shoddy? Does he like all these things? 549 00:24:19,520 --> 00:24:21,199 Speaker 2: I would go ahead and throw that chumb in the 550 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,520 Speaker 2: water and see what kind of what kind of reaction 551 00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:24,359 Speaker 2: did I get out of that? 552 00:24:24,440 --> 00:24:26,159 Speaker 6: What do you think right now looking at all the 553 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,719 Speaker 6: guys you just name, where do you think there's at 554 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 6: least risk in doing a long term deal now? 555 00:24:33,160 --> 00:24:36,080 Speaker 3: Higgins? I mean, you know he he I mean the 556 00:24:36,080 --> 00:24:39,800 Speaker 3: the risk is that he crashes out a little bit 557 00:24:39,920 --> 00:24:42,119 Speaker 3: or or or maybe, like like you said earlier, we 558 00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:43,879 Speaker 3: want to pay somebody and make you the face of 559 00:24:43,880 --> 00:24:44,600 Speaker 3: the organization. 560 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:45,520 Speaker 7: You know. 561 00:24:45,760 --> 00:24:47,399 Speaker 3: I may or may not want to want to be 562 00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,960 Speaker 3: that for him, But he's a dude, he could he 563 00:24:49,000 --> 00:24:52,000 Speaker 3: could play, So just in terms of playing football, I 564 00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 3: think you know he's a guy that qualifies for that. 565 00:24:55,119 --> 00:24:58,040 Speaker 3: Tyler Smith, I don't have no issues, no problem. I 566 00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 3: don't even think twice about Tyler Smith. If there's anybody 567 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:04,320 Speaker 3: that it could backfire on, it will maybe be Pickings. 568 00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 3: I mean, Brandon Aubrey is a kicker. I wo'd image 569 00:25:06,200 --> 00:25:08,120 Speaker 3: as long as he's kicking, he'll be fine. 570 00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 5: Kickers drop off quick. 571 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:15,480 Speaker 4: I think it's Bland is the least risky. 572 00:25:15,560 --> 00:25:17,119 Speaker 2: I know, the least risky. 573 00:25:17,160 --> 00:25:19,200 Speaker 5: I think the least risky. I was asking the least risky, 574 00:25:19,200 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 5: what's the least risky? 575 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:21,920 Speaker 3: I think safe. I just don't think he's in. 576 00:25:22,280 --> 00:25:24,600 Speaker 2: I think I think I think Bland might be the 577 00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:28,239 Speaker 2: most risky. Really, that's right, yeah to me. When you 578 00:25:28,280 --> 00:25:32,200 Speaker 2: watch quarter cornerback play, it's about confidence, it's about your ability, 579 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,560 Speaker 2: it's about your skill level. We saw a couple of 580 00:25:34,640 --> 00:25:37,680 Speaker 2: games where guys were running by him, the separation was there, and. 581 00:25:37,640 --> 00:25:38,360 Speaker 4: Stuff like that. 582 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 2: You know, with him, maybe it's one of those things 583 00:25:40,960 --> 00:25:42,600 Speaker 2: where you get to a guy that plays to a 584 00:25:42,640 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 2: certain level and that's kind of what he is. Maybe 585 00:25:45,119 --> 00:25:48,119 Speaker 2: we've seen the absolute best of Bland here with the 586 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:51,280 Speaker 2: Dallas Cowboys. But I would be worried about a cornerback 587 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:54,640 Speaker 2: that loses confidence and starts to allow the ball, maybe 588 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,000 Speaker 2: some more separation on routes. 589 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 4: I would worry about that a little bit. 590 00:25:59,080 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 2: You know, that might be the one where that that 591 00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,560 Speaker 2: just all of a sudden, that play falls off the cliff. 592 00:26:03,680 --> 00:26:06,840 Speaker 3: Also, brent On Bland, do you pay him as a 593 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:11,080 Speaker 3: top fifteen corner do you pay him broke? Like six records? 594 00:26:11,320 --> 00:26:12,200 Speaker 3: But how do you pay Blank? 595 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:14,359 Speaker 2: See, this is the problem that you went in with Bland, 596 00:26:14,520 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 2: is that that he sees what Diggs is making. 597 00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:20,040 Speaker 4: You know, he looks at Diggs, He's like, you're gonna 598 00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:20,399 Speaker 4: tell me. 599 00:26:20,520 --> 00:26:22,520 Speaker 3: I'm out here playing, I'm at the workouts, I'm working, 600 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:23,359 Speaker 3: I'm not doing all this. 601 00:26:23,400 --> 00:26:25,480 Speaker 5: But right now Diggs is in a top ten salary. 602 00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,720 Speaker 5: I'm thinking cornerback. He I think he's like right outside 603 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:28,119 Speaker 5: the top. 604 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 2: Two, but he's to that level where Bland's thinking, you're 605 00:26:30,480 --> 00:26:31,720 Speaker 2: not gonna pay me less than. 606 00:26:31,600 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 5: Him, right, And I guess that's where I look at it. 607 00:26:34,040 --> 00:26:36,160 Speaker 6: And I think from the standpoint of how a deal 608 00:26:36,200 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 6: could be done right now with Bland, Bland ain't gonna 609 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 6: be at the top of the cornerback market. 610 00:26:39,640 --> 00:26:41,119 Speaker 5: You're not talking if you. 611 00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:43,400 Speaker 6: Can get a deal with him, that is a Tyrone 612 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,320 Speaker 6: Crawford type deal. Right, You're gonna get paid, but you're 613 00:26:46,359 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 6: not gonna be anywhere. 614 00:26:49,000 --> 00:26:50,520 Speaker 2: So does he have an. 615 00:26:50,440 --> 00:26:51,520 Speaker 5: Argument for anything different? 616 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:51,800 Speaker 4: I don't. 617 00:26:51,800 --> 00:26:52,280 Speaker 3: I don't know that. 618 00:26:52,600 --> 00:26:53,120 Speaker 4: I don't think. 619 00:26:53,160 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 2: I don't know that. 620 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,159 Speaker 6: Well, everybody thinks that they're they're great, right, but I 621 00:26:56,200 --> 00:26:59,120 Speaker 6: don't know that if he's thinking objectively, I don't think 622 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:00,680 Speaker 6: that he thinks he's up there where he should be 623 00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 6: getting paid what the top corners in the league are making. 624 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:03,840 Speaker 4: If that's I know, he. 625 00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 6: Can make the argument even he should be making necessarily 626 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,480 Speaker 6: more than Diggs. I think it's around that same range, 627 00:27:08,480 --> 00:27:09,679 Speaker 6: and if you do it early, you might be able 628 00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:10,680 Speaker 6: to get a little bit less than at. 629 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 2: Us If that's the case. If that's the case, the 630 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 2: Cowboys need to jump on that one. Then if he 631 00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,440 Speaker 2: thinks it's less than Diggs and he wants and he's 632 00:27:18,440 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 2: not thinking top ten, they need to jump on that 633 00:27:21,119 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 2: right now. Because I have a feeling he's the opposite. 634 00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:27,800 Speaker 2: I have the feeling he's looking at this like, you 635 00:27:27,840 --> 00:27:30,800 Speaker 2: know what, I had pick six record. I'm around the football. 636 00:27:30,800 --> 00:27:31,680 Speaker 2: I'm a willing. 637 00:27:31,400 --> 00:27:32,399 Speaker 4: Tackler, you know. 638 00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 2: Yeah, I had a couple of games where you know, 639 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 2: guys got buying me. I do worry about the deep 640 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:38,479 Speaker 2: speed with him, But I mean, did that happened? 641 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,480 Speaker 7: I drop off because. 642 00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 2: Of I's just say it's something that you see, you know, 643 00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,240 Speaker 2: it's stuff you like when you start to talk about paying, 644 00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:50,160 Speaker 2: like the certains and the Sauce Gardeners. 645 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 5: But does he think that that's that's it? I didn't 646 00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:54,840 Speaker 5: think so. But listening to you, are you saying you 647 00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:56,360 Speaker 5: think he thinks that he should be up. 648 00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 2: There with I think I think every player like that 649 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,960 Speaker 2: thinks that he should be in that room. I know 650 00:28:02,080 --> 00:28:05,240 Speaker 2: one thing, he's looking at Diggs's numbers and saying, I 651 00:28:05,280 --> 00:28:07,880 Speaker 2: am better than that. That's fair. 652 00:28:08,000 --> 00:28:09,800 Speaker 5: That that part he can make an argument. 653 00:28:09,880 --> 00:28:11,239 Speaker 2: And and you know, and and you know, if you're 654 00:28:11,280 --> 00:28:13,720 Speaker 2: sitting there, if you're Jerry Jones and Stephen Joe, he 655 00:28:13,840 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 2: could say, Okay, maybe I'm not Sir Tan, maybe I'm 656 00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 2: not Sauce Gardner, but I'm damn better than Diggs. You 657 00:28:21,000 --> 00:28:23,800 Speaker 2: know he can say that. And that's where that's where 658 00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:26,159 Speaker 2: it starts for me. And if you're comfortable what you 659 00:28:26,240 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: paid Digs, then you should be comfortable what you paid Bland. 660 00:28:30,600 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 4: And I don't know that. 661 00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,800 Speaker 2: And I like you say, of all the guys that 662 00:28:33,960 --> 00:28:37,480 Speaker 2: the Aubrey's and the Smiths, he's when you say maybe 663 00:28:37,520 --> 00:28:40,040 Speaker 2: a player that might drop, he was the one that 664 00:28:40,120 --> 00:28:41,760 Speaker 2: came to mind to meet that, the guy you would 665 00:28:41,800 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 2: pay for me. 666 00:28:43,600 --> 00:28:45,760 Speaker 6: I look at it, and I say, the least risky. 667 00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:49,160 Speaker 6: Riskiest obviously is Tyler Smith, no question, makes makes all 668 00:28:49,160 --> 00:28:50,800 Speaker 6: the sense in the world. You know he's gonna be 669 00:28:50,840 --> 00:28:53,560 Speaker 6: who he is, right right. I actually think the more 670 00:28:53,680 --> 00:28:56,280 Speaker 6: risky one that you don't necessarily have to do right 671 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:58,400 Speaker 6: now is Aubrey. And the reason why I say that 672 00:28:58,440 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 6: is because kickers fall off quick. What we know about 673 00:29:00,640 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 6: kickers in the NFL, it's not just skyboys around the NFL. 674 00:29:03,240 --> 00:29:06,160 Speaker 5: You have great kickers. Look at Jason Justin Tucker. 675 00:29:06,240 --> 00:29:07,080 Speaker 4: Justin Tucker was. 676 00:29:07,040 --> 00:29:09,320 Speaker 6: The best kicker for how long in the NFL, and 677 00:29:09,360 --> 00:29:11,800 Speaker 6: then all of a sudden, over a year, it became like. 678 00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:13,760 Speaker 5: Oh no, he's not that guy anymore. 679 00:29:13,960 --> 00:29:16,240 Speaker 6: We've seen it happen over and so for me, I'm like, 680 00:29:16,280 --> 00:29:18,719 Speaker 6: I always wait and do my kick, do my kickers 681 00:29:18,760 --> 00:29:20,360 Speaker 6: deal at the point when I need to do my 682 00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,360 Speaker 6: kickers because I want to see the latest kick. I 683 00:29:22,360 --> 00:29:24,400 Speaker 6: want to see your last kick, and I'll base your 684 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:26,560 Speaker 6: contract off your last kick because that tells me a 685 00:29:26,600 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 6: lot about where you are at this point in your career. 686 00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:30,840 Speaker 2: I would consider I would consider this. If you start 687 00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,160 Speaker 2: to see slippage, I try and get a second round 688 00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:33,960 Speaker 2: pick for him, then. 689 00:29:33,880 --> 00:29:38,000 Speaker 3: Should they re sign him at all should they as. 690 00:29:37,880 --> 00:29:39,239 Speaker 6: All of these kicking at this level, that's the thing, 691 00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,440 Speaker 6: and you keep rolling with it, but you also want 692 00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:45,400 Speaker 6: to have you want to have a wait like I 693 00:29:45,440 --> 00:29:46,800 Speaker 6: would all. I would never do more than a three 694 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:49,040 Speaker 6: year deal on the kickers, two to three years, and 695 00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,040 Speaker 6: then I want I'm evaluating it all the time to 696 00:29:51,040 --> 00:29:51,680 Speaker 6: see where. 697 00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,600 Speaker 5: They are because kickers such a position about it. 698 00:29:54,680 --> 00:29:55,600 Speaker 2: It is when they fall off. 699 00:29:55,600 --> 00:29:58,160 Speaker 5: It's not that their leg necessarily falls off, it's the. 700 00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:01,000 Speaker 6: Mental part side, and which it's same to how golfers 701 00:30:01,040 --> 00:30:02,840 Speaker 6: a lot of times, once it gets in your head, 702 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 6: it's hard to get it back right. 703 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,040 Speaker 5: And so that's where I'm like, that's the riskiest position 704 00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:10,960 Speaker 5: of all these guys in my opinion. Sub did sure, 705 00:30:11,160 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 5: all right, We're gonna take our final break. We will 706 00:30:12,880 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 5: come back. 707 00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,680 Speaker 6: We got one more break, one more segment for you guys. 708 00:30:15,680 --> 00:30:17,640 Speaker 6: We're gonna talk about the running back position. Some questions 709 00:30:17,680 --> 00:30:19,680 Speaker 6: about that yesterday. It's a position that I think a 710 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,000 Speaker 6: lot of people have some questions about this Cowboys roster. 711 00:30:22,080 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 5: We'll talk about when we come back. 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I don't work here. 772 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:25,080 Speaker 5: We're gonna keep rolling with that. 773 00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:25,560 Speaker 3: I don't. 774 00:33:26,040 --> 00:33:28,120 Speaker 6: All right, Let's talk about the running back position. Yesterday 775 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 6: it brought it came up in the press conference. 776 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:31,080 Speaker 5: I think it's a position. 777 00:33:31,120 --> 00:33:33,000 Speaker 6: As I've looked around, you know a lot of media 778 00:33:33,040 --> 00:33:35,840 Speaker 6: people talking about this roster. I think it still remains 779 00:33:36,080 --> 00:33:38,840 Speaker 6: one of if not the position that most people point 780 00:33:38,840 --> 00:33:41,360 Speaker 6: to and say that's where they have the most concerns, 781 00:33:41,400 --> 00:33:42,240 Speaker 6: most questions. 782 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:44,240 Speaker 5: So I'll pose the question to you, guys. 783 00:33:44,240 --> 00:33:47,120 Speaker 6: First of all, what does it fall for you from 784 00:33:47,120 --> 00:33:49,640 Speaker 6: the standpoint of positions that you may have concerned I'll 785 00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,120 Speaker 6: concerned you about this position, the running back position. 786 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:56,840 Speaker 3: Running back is super important. I think Dak would benefit 787 00:33:56,880 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: from a run game, and you've listened to Dak talk 788 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:01,959 Speaker 3: about it. Hey, play action, it'll help, And that's one 789 00:34:01,960 --> 00:34:04,320 Speaker 3: of the better quarterbacks at that play action things like 790 00:34:04,360 --> 00:34:07,080 Speaker 3: that down the field. But you have to earn respect 791 00:34:07,160 --> 00:34:08,880 Speaker 3: in the run game. And you know there's a lot 792 00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:10,279 Speaker 3: of teams run the league. And there's some people in 793 00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,840 Speaker 3: the comments listening right now that'll say, well, any running 794 00:34:12,880 --> 00:34:15,200 Speaker 3: back can be good with a good scheme and a 795 00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:17,799 Speaker 3: good offensive line, that's cool. But if I can have 796 00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,360 Speaker 3: all three, let's do it. You know like that, that 797 00:34:20,520 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 3: sounds good having like a seventh round running back. You 798 00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:24,960 Speaker 3: could be filled my fifth round running back. If you're 799 00:34:24,960 --> 00:34:27,359 Speaker 3: trying to make the playoffs, that sounds great. But if 800 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:29,360 Speaker 3: you're trying to beat the best teams in the league, 801 00:34:29,400 --> 00:34:31,759 Speaker 3: you might want to do that's a little better and 802 00:34:31,840 --> 00:34:33,680 Speaker 3: I don't want the Cowboys to kind of sit on 803 00:34:33,719 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 3: their hands about it, because the best teams don't. The 804 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:39,360 Speaker 3: Niners can have the best run game with Mitchell and 805 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:41,520 Speaker 3: then they'll go get Christan McCaffrey just because they can. 806 00:34:41,920 --> 00:34:44,640 Speaker 3: Or the Eagles will be just fine with Swift, but 807 00:34:44,680 --> 00:34:46,799 Speaker 3: then they'll still go and get sae Quon. Anyway, you're 808 00:34:46,840 --> 00:34:49,399 Speaker 3: competing with those teams. So yeah, we kind of got 809 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,680 Speaker 3: this running back mix right now. That'll be fine, that'll 810 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,040 Speaker 3: probably beat regular teams. But you know, when you go 811 00:34:54,120 --> 00:34:57,400 Speaker 3: and play Minnesota in the postseason or something, you know, Detroit, 812 00:34:57,640 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 3: like these teams that have great d lines, you need 813 00:35:00,200 --> 00:35:02,279 Speaker 3: o line, great scheme and a dude that can help 814 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:03,200 Speaker 3: those two out. 815 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,800 Speaker 6: So how concerned and I might not have been clear, please, 816 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,160 Speaker 6: how concerned are you about this particular group? 817 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,800 Speaker 3: A little worried about it? But you know the nature 818 00:35:10,800 --> 00:35:12,680 Speaker 3: of running back is you never know till you see it. 819 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:14,799 Speaker 3: You know, like you just never know which seventh round 820 00:35:14,840 --> 00:35:16,960 Speaker 3: running back that got drafted last year is gonna be great. 821 00:35:18,239 --> 00:35:20,680 Speaker 3: Tyrone Tracy is a is a solid little running back 822 00:35:20,680 --> 00:35:23,120 Speaker 3: that we probably didn't even have thoughts about, but he 823 00:35:23,200 --> 00:35:25,200 Speaker 3: ended up being a pretty decent dude for the Giants, 824 00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,680 Speaker 3: so you just never really know he'll be fine. And 825 00:35:27,960 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 3: maybe running back would be better here because we got 826 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:33,080 Speaker 3: two great receivers on the outside, a really great passing game. 827 00:35:33,160 --> 00:35:34,799 Speaker 3: Running back and be solid. But if it was me, 828 00:35:35,239 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 3: if I was in charge, if my last name was Jones, 829 00:35:37,640 --> 00:35:39,520 Speaker 3: I would like to have a much better running back 830 00:35:39,520 --> 00:35:41,320 Speaker 3: to be able to use those advantages. 831 00:35:41,360 --> 00:35:42,040 Speaker 4: How ranked this? 832 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:42,760 Speaker 3: Please? 833 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:48,880 Speaker 2: Coach and scheme offensive line or running back schemes for 834 00:35:48,960 --> 00:35:51,359 Speaker 2: me in importance? Put him in, put him in order 835 00:35:51,360 --> 00:35:58,600 Speaker 2: of importance. Scheme coach offensive line? Running backs that are that. 836 00:35:58,640 --> 00:35:59,839 Speaker 3: Order for me? Yeah? 837 00:36:00,120 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 5: Order for me? 838 00:36:01,400 --> 00:36:01,719 Speaker 3: I'm not. 839 00:36:02,000 --> 00:36:04,200 Speaker 2: Then we shouldn't be worried about these running backs, should we. 840 00:36:04,440 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm asking the question, that's I'm saying. So you'll 841 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:08,840 Speaker 5: go that poy. You say I'm running back first. 842 00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,000 Speaker 3: I'm going to scheme first, O line, then then for 843 00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:16,680 Speaker 3: me and then yeah, I thought you said old line third. 844 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:18,000 Speaker 3: My bad. 845 00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:23,719 Speaker 2: Well that's the thing about it is, though I am. 846 00:36:23,840 --> 00:36:26,960 Speaker 4: I still think. I still think running back is important. 847 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 3: It is I do. 848 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:31,439 Speaker 2: I think Philadelphia became a much better football team last year. 849 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,200 Speaker 2: Two things that they did the year before they drafted 850 00:36:34,480 --> 00:36:36,600 Speaker 2: the too young the rookie corners that came in to play, 851 00:36:36,680 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 2: and then they went and got Saquon Barkley. 852 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,960 Speaker 4: I think that made a difference in their football. 853 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,440 Speaker 6: Let me ask you this question, the Saquon do what 854 00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:46,040 Speaker 6: he did without that offensive line? 855 00:36:46,040 --> 00:36:47,760 Speaker 5: Because we saw him in New York. He was good, 856 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,560 Speaker 5: he wasn't. That that's why, and that's but that's my point. 857 00:36:50,560 --> 00:36:50,879 Speaker 5: That's why. 858 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,799 Speaker 6: That's why I go back to when you put that order, Yes, 859 00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:55,160 Speaker 6: running back matters, and if you have a great one 860 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 6: that you can combine with a great offensive line and 861 00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:01,400 Speaker 6: a great scheme, now you're really hitting all stocks. 862 00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:03,359 Speaker 2: I can't wait till Derek gets mad and they're trying 863 00:37:03,400 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 2: to run the ball and it's looks like, man, this 864 00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:07,520 Speaker 2: pin and pull, they got it. They got this thing 865 00:37:07,600 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 2: blocked up. It's a great scheme and run what the 866 00:37:10,560 --> 00:37:11,640 Speaker 2: hell's the running back doing? 867 00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,319 Speaker 7: Handing hand both things. I mean, you have to have 868 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 7: a very solid offensive line for the running back to 869 00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:21,319 Speaker 7: be good great, you know, and working in some of 870 00:37:21,360 --> 00:37:25,279 Speaker 7: the Blues documentaries that we're currently doing, looking at back 871 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:28,960 Speaker 7: at the old footage all different seasons, you're like, man, 872 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:32,560 Speaker 7: the times that the Cowboys were the most successful is 873 00:37:32,600 --> 00:37:36,360 Speaker 7: when you have a solid running game tied into everything else. 874 00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,560 Speaker 7: Obviously that's part of the game. So right now, yes, 875 00:37:39,640 --> 00:37:42,520 Speaker 7: you need to solidify that run game. And with the 876 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:45,439 Speaker 7: current guys that they have, we haven't seen them full 877 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 7: in action just yet, and I'm eager to watch that. 878 00:37:48,600 --> 00:37:52,520 Speaker 7: But at the moment, it just seems very very bland, 879 00:37:52,719 --> 00:37:58,640 Speaker 7: very like it's not giving me that excitement, excitement, you know, is. 880 00:37:59,440 --> 00:38:01,759 Speaker 2: It the running back certain give you the excitement or 881 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:04,520 Speaker 2: is it the you don't know this scheme how you're 882 00:38:04,520 --> 00:38:05,239 Speaker 2: going to run the ball? 883 00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:08,640 Speaker 6: I guess surmise what the scheme is because we've seen 884 00:38:08,680 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 6: it in in In with the Cardinals, Like I think 885 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 6: I have an idea of what kind of scheme they're 886 00:38:13,320 --> 00:38:13,759 Speaker 6: gonna run. 887 00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 5: We'll see that is why needs to execute. 888 00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:17,440 Speaker 2: No. 889 00:38:17,520 --> 00:38:19,439 Speaker 6: Yeah, but I'm saying, like, when you start saying where 890 00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:22,000 Speaker 6: the question marks are for me, I have less question. 891 00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 5: Marks about the scheme. 892 00:38:22,680 --> 00:38:25,120 Speaker 6: I have more question marks about the two tackles, and 893 00:38:25,160 --> 00:38:27,680 Speaker 6: I have more question marks about the running back position itself. 894 00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:30,200 Speaker 4: How would you describe the Cardinals scheme? How would you 895 00:38:30,239 --> 00:38:30,839 Speaker 4: describe it? 896 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:31,839 Speaker 3: And pull? 897 00:38:32,480 --> 00:38:34,319 Speaker 6: What I saw in that game where we played there, 898 00:38:34,800 --> 00:38:36,280 Speaker 6: the penn and pulls, that's. 899 00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 5: All and give me that see that. 900 00:38:38,760 --> 00:38:41,239 Speaker 4: This is this is I'm the question I'm gonna ask you, 901 00:38:41,320 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 4: and I'm gonna. 902 00:38:41,719 --> 00:38:45,160 Speaker 2: Ask you this way. To me, Arizona is a college 903 00:38:45,239 --> 00:38:50,440 Speaker 2: running scheme. College Okay, Baltimore Ravens college running scheme. 904 00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:51,479 Speaker 5: And they did it well. 905 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:53,800 Speaker 2: If you've got a team, if you've got a team 906 00:38:54,400 --> 00:38:58,200 Speaker 2: that has a quarterback that has that read optionability, to me, 907 00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:01,799 Speaker 2: that's a college running scheme, you know. So to me, 908 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:05,640 Speaker 2: there's teams like the forty nine ers, I would look 909 00:39:05,680 --> 00:39:08,640 Speaker 2: at the forty nine ersould say there are power teams. 910 00:39:08,640 --> 00:39:10,000 Speaker 2: Why they play with a full back? 911 00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:10,839 Speaker 4: You know? 912 00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:14,359 Speaker 2: So what do you think Schottenheimer? Do you think he's 913 00:39:14,440 --> 00:39:16,839 Speaker 2: going to play? Do you think Hunter Lipkey is going 914 00:39:16,880 --> 00:39:17,680 Speaker 2: to be part. 915 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:18,879 Speaker 3: Of his name? 916 00:39:18,960 --> 00:39:19,480 Speaker 7: Yesterday? 917 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:20,520 Speaker 4: Okay? 918 00:39:20,880 --> 00:39:24,080 Speaker 2: Then Dallas turns into a power running scheme which is 919 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:25,280 Speaker 2: not pin and pull. 920 00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:25,680 Speaker 3: But he's not. 921 00:39:25,800 --> 00:39:27,960 Speaker 5: But he's not gonna be your primary running back. Let's 922 00:39:27,960 --> 00:39:28,239 Speaker 5: be clear. 923 00:39:28,280 --> 00:39:31,640 Speaker 2: By no, no, no no no, A Barker, I'm talking about 924 00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:35,160 Speaker 2: like twelve personnel, how they're gonna, how the scheme is. 925 00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:38,080 Speaker 2: I think Dallas is going to try and be a 926 00:39:38,160 --> 00:39:41,160 Speaker 2: gap scheme run team when they just I think you 927 00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:41,720 Speaker 2: I think. 928 00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:43,640 Speaker 3: You drafted Booker, They're gonna move baddies. 929 00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, this man knows Booker better than anybody. 930 00:39:46,400 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 2: When he and I working on the draft together, the 931 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: draft show when you're when you're talking about Booker, it's 932 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 2: not about Penn And even even the coaches when they 933 00:39:55,239 --> 00:39:58,040 Speaker 2: were on with us during the third day of the draft, like, well, 934 00:39:58,080 --> 00:39:59,759 Speaker 2: if we can't run the pin and pull, you know, 935 00:40:00,160 --> 00:40:02,879 Speaker 2: they're not going to try and round peg square hole 936 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:03,399 Speaker 2: kind of thing. 937 00:40:03,480 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 4: They're not gonna do that. 938 00:40:05,160 --> 00:40:05,759 Speaker 2: So to me. 939 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:09,920 Speaker 3: Blow power some counters here or there, moving bodies, Yeah. 940 00:40:09,760 --> 00:40:11,840 Speaker 2: I just I don't like I say, if you have 941 00:40:11,880 --> 00:40:15,760 Speaker 2: a quarterback that has the ability to run, this quarterback 942 00:40:15,800 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 2: can run. 943 00:40:16,400 --> 00:40:18,120 Speaker 4: I don't think they want him to run. 944 00:40:18,480 --> 00:40:21,080 Speaker 2: So now I'm trying to think about, Okay, can Dallas 945 00:40:21,120 --> 00:40:24,279 Speaker 2: get away? Are they going to be able with their 946 00:40:24,320 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 2: offensive line the way it is be a Penn and 947 00:40:26,600 --> 00:40:28,240 Speaker 2: Poll team and have some of those elements. 948 00:40:28,239 --> 00:40:30,640 Speaker 3: But see Bryant last year watching the film, how many 949 00:40:30,680 --> 00:40:33,719 Speaker 3: times have we seen Dank go to hand the ball 950 00:40:33,760 --> 00:40:37,759 Speaker 3: off and the end crashes? Now you go, damn, Dank 951 00:40:37,880 --> 00:40:40,400 Speaker 3: could run right there, see, but it doesn't. See I'm 952 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,000 Speaker 3: thinking it's in the scheme of him not to run 953 00:40:42,040 --> 00:40:43,959 Speaker 3: because it's wide open every single time happen. 954 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:48,279 Speaker 2: If this, if it turns okay, then it turns into 955 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,080 Speaker 2: a college scheme. 956 00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:50,360 Speaker 4: Then it turns. 957 00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:52,640 Speaker 2: Into the element of right of reading it and then 958 00:40:52,719 --> 00:40:53,879 Speaker 2: going and that way. 959 00:40:53,880 --> 00:40:55,080 Speaker 4: And I think that that plays. 960 00:40:55,120 --> 00:40:56,680 Speaker 6: I think that's what he's gonna be this year. I 961 00:40:56,680 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 6: think we're gonna see more of that in Dak's game 962 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:01,279 Speaker 6: because quite frankly, that's when Dak said his best I 963 00:41:01,680 --> 00:41:03,000 Speaker 6: all agree, that's when Dak said. 964 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:05,319 Speaker 7: No, no, I don't wait for it standing up, take 965 00:41:05,360 --> 00:41:08,200 Speaker 7: a seat and wait for it. What I think it's 966 00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 7: gonna take. That's just a saying in Spanish. No, basically, 967 00:41:14,239 --> 00:41:16,680 Speaker 7: I'm saying like, you gotta sit down and wait for it, 968 00:41:16,719 --> 00:41:18,240 Speaker 7: because I think it's not gonna happen. 969 00:41:19,600 --> 00:41:19,799 Speaker 5: Gona. 970 00:41:19,960 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 2: I just I just after after the. 971 00:41:24,320 --> 00:41:28,680 Speaker 7: Injury and everything that we saw, I think not to 972 00:41:28,719 --> 00:41:30,759 Speaker 7: say that, because Dak is the guy that he says 973 00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,600 Speaker 7: all the right things and he's gonna go out there 974 00:41:32,640 --> 00:41:36,080 Speaker 7: and do all that. But the first injury that he had, 975 00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:39,000 Speaker 7: like a couple of years ago, Yes, I think you waited, 976 00:41:39,120 --> 00:41:41,360 Speaker 7: like mentally, it was like a mental thing or or 977 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 7: something there that I feel like I don't think they're 978 00:41:45,640 --> 00:41:48,960 Speaker 7: gonna risk having him running out there. But I agree 979 00:41:48,960 --> 00:41:51,520 Speaker 7: with you that's were his best at that's when he 980 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:55,279 Speaker 7: plays his best, when he's able to escape and use 981 00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:57,239 Speaker 7: his like especially in the red zone. 982 00:41:57,280 --> 00:41:59,439 Speaker 6: And I'm not saying he's gonna become Lamark Jackson. That's 983 00:41:59,440 --> 00:42:01,160 Speaker 6: not what I need from him. What I need from 984 00:42:01,239 --> 00:42:04,200 Speaker 6: him is, like you were saying, watch those moments, those 985 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,279 Speaker 6: moments when it presents itself there, don't be hesitant to 986 00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:08,760 Speaker 6: take it and go another