WEBVTT - QLS Classic: Seth Rogen 0:00:00.120 --> 0:00:09.479 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Hey what's up, y'all? 0:00:09.600 --> 0:00:13.560 You know I love the QLs episodes with comedians, and 0:00:13.720 --> 0:00:17.119 right before the pandemic, we had Seth Rogan on. We Laugh, 0:00:17.200 --> 0:00:19.800 We talked Hollywood shop, we talk hip hop, stand up, 0:00:20.520 --> 0:00:24.640 listen back as Laiah Sugar, Steve Boss Bill, and I 0:00:24.680 --> 0:00:26.840 spoke with Seth, who was so fun to hang out 0:00:26.880 --> 0:00:30.040 with and listen to this and let us know some 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:32.880 of the comedians you would like on the show. All right, 0:00:41.600 --> 0:00:42.680 wait what. 0:00:44.200 --> 0:00:44.480 Stop? 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:48.680 Stop stop stop stop stop the thing, keep it going, 0:00:48.800 --> 0:00:51.360 stop the thing. Wait. You said that if you sit 0:00:51.479 --> 0:00:53.960 next to Seth Rogan, you're gonna be rich on the 0:00:54.000 --> 0:00:55.080 first of January. 0:00:55.240 --> 0:00:56.920 Yes, if I start the year sitting next. 0:00:56.760 --> 0:01:00.360 To Seventh Smith, yes, I'm gonna be rich and funny. Okay, 0:01:00.800 --> 0:01:01.160 here we go. 0:01:02.280 --> 0:01:09.600 Suprema something something, Supremo, roll car Suprema some Supremo, roll car, 0:01:10.120 --> 0:01:18.160 Suprema something Supreme, roll call, Suprema, Son, Supremo, Roll Quest Love. 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:22.119 Here thinking, yeah, which is which? Yeah, maybe I need 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:24.520 to switch my seat. Yeah, so I too can get 0:01:24.600 --> 0:01:26.480 rich car Supreme. 0:01:26.600 --> 0:01:32.440 I'm just saying Supremo, roll Call, Suprema something something, Supremo. 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:37.119 Roll Car is Sugar. Yeah, Yeah, I'm a mess. Yeah, 0:01:37.120 --> 0:01:40.560 I've been smoking way too much Pineapple. 0:01:40.040 --> 0:01:49.160 Express, Supreme Something Supreme roll Car, Suprema s Suprema roll Car. 0:01:49.360 --> 0:01:53.280 This is boss Bill. Yeah, back again my friends. Yeah, 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:56.080 this is the third line. Yeah, and this is the 0:01:56.200 --> 0:01:57.600 end car. 0:01:57.880 --> 0:02:04.360 Suprema Something something so Prima roll call Suprema su Supremo 0:02:04.560 --> 0:02:05.160 roll call. 0:02:06.760 --> 0:02:09.760 Yeah with Seth of course. Yeah, I don't know what 0:02:09.760 --> 0:02:12.440 to tell you. Yeah, this will better than a horse. 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:16.000 So you went to a dark place. 0:02:17.680 --> 0:02:21.079 Supreme Supremo roll Call. 0:02:21.240 --> 0:02:25.720 My name is Seth. Yeah, I'm feeling old, yeah handed 0:02:25.840 --> 0:02:28.160 New York. Yeah, I'm fucking cold. 0:02:28.600 --> 0:02:34.880 Roll Supreme U Suck Suck Supprima roll Call, Supreme Suck 0:02:35.160 --> 0:02:44.239 Suck Supprimo roll Call Supreme Supreme roll Supremium. 0:02:46.200 --> 0:02:48.840 This is how we're going to start. 0:02:49.480 --> 0:02:52.639 We're going to twenty twenty. This is a bad omen 0:02:52.800 --> 0:02:53.120 all right. 0:02:54.919 --> 0:02:57.320 The god song to it that we should have no 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.720 more theme. Get to it, ladies and gentlemen. Uh, this 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:07.560 is the newly rich neuvau Reese Quest Love another episode, 0:03:07.880 --> 0:03:11.720 Happy New Year. This is January first, twenty twenty. Everybody, 0:03:12.080 --> 0:03:13.240 how do you feel good? 0:03:13.480 --> 0:03:16.040 Old and cold? 0:03:16.120 --> 0:03:21.440 How is your How was your holiday? Your festivities? It 0:03:21.560 --> 0:03:22.680 was old and cold. 0:03:23.240 --> 0:03:25.639 No, we had a great time, of course, okay. 0:03:25.600 --> 0:03:26.600 Great, we can't remember. 0:03:26.680 --> 0:03:27.520 Did the checks come through? 0:03:27.560 --> 0:03:30.880 Yeah, the honk checks clear it Solf as well. 0:03:30.919 --> 0:03:36.280 I'm actually shocked because whenever any of your brothers come 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:38.800 on the show, your your you always your roll call 0:03:39.080 --> 0:03:42.200 is usually geared towards you do jewy call. 0:03:42.320 --> 0:03:44.840 Yeah, yeah, I started incorporating the jewy part, but just 0:03:44.920 --> 0:03:46.440 left it with the stone apart Ston. 0:03:47.120 --> 0:03:48.800 I think. Yeah, I'm about to say, I think. 0:03:50.000 --> 0:03:52.040 Are pretty like there's a lot of overlaps. 0:03:53.440 --> 0:03:59.480 Paid Bill would not approve anyway. I'm your host Questlove, 0:03:59.720 --> 0:04:04.080 joined to day by my croonies, Boss Bill, Sugar, Steve unpaid, pilled. 0:04:04.200 --> 0:04:08.440 Surprisingly isn't here? Yeah here wit? Is he not coming? 0:04:08.520 --> 0:04:10.880 Or did we call him? Do we let him know? 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:11.440 Let him? 0:04:11.520 --> 0:04:13.320 You know he does play sesame streets and stuff. 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:16.440 Okay, so he's can chill the muppets enough bagel jokes. 0:04:16.440 --> 0:04:18.839 We can make out anyway. 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:25.559 Uh, not to stall anymore, Ladies and gentlemen, we have comedian, director, producer, actor, writer, 0:04:26.520 --> 0:04:34.640 leading man cannabis connoisseur. I also uh advocate for sleeping 0:04:34.760 --> 0:04:36.760 in the bedroom under sixty seven degrees. 0:04:36.920 --> 0:04:37.719 Yes, it's true. 0:04:38.839 --> 0:04:42.160 We will we will get that later. 0:04:45.040 --> 0:04:48.960 I guess. Uh Philadelphia music culture fan voice him in 0:04:49.040 --> 0:04:52.320 the roots. Uh ladies and gentlemen, and and hip hop 0:04:52.360 --> 0:04:55.520 head and Canadian ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show. 0:04:55.600 --> 0:05:03.680 Seth Rogan. Wait, I gotta all right, we this is 0:05:03.720 --> 0:05:06.440 this is a show of rabbit holing. Let's just start 0:05:06.480 --> 0:05:10.480 getting first, all right, I'm a little I'm miffed. All right, 0:05:10.600 --> 0:05:12.560 so I have to explain that. 0:05:13.040 --> 0:05:13.920 A lot of backstories. 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:17.760 I was very fortunate. I was very fortunate to attend 0:05:18.160 --> 0:05:24.320 uh sets uh Hilarity for charity event. Shout out to 0:05:24.440 --> 0:05:27.640 uh Mnisian and Mary Ellis Museum. 0:05:29.080 --> 0:05:29.800 Yeah. 0:05:29.880 --> 0:05:33.760 Yeah, So I went there and the discussion of how 0:05:33.839 --> 0:05:40.520 much sleep does a person need to have a healthy brain? Yes, yes, No, 0:05:40.640 --> 0:05:43.440 I learned a lot. I learned that. As of lately, 0:05:43.480 --> 0:05:46.560 I'll say the last two months, I've been back into 0:05:46.680 --> 0:05:52.960 the eight hour range of sleeping because right because people 0:05:53.080 --> 0:05:54.600 were always like, when do you sleep? When do you 0:05:54.640 --> 0:05:58.440 see to sleep? I was three, I was three to 0:05:58.480 --> 0:06:01.080 five hour guy, and I was told that you don't 0:06:01.080 --> 0:06:04.960 even reach r em state until six hours and forty 0:06:04.960 --> 0:06:08.359 seven minutes and for your body to heal. And you know, 0:06:08.480 --> 0:06:10.920 I'm adjusting my lifestyle right now. I'm trying to get 0:06:10.920 --> 0:06:14.919 back to a healthier place. I gotta do somewhere between 0:06:15.400 --> 0:06:18.720 eight to ten hours for the magic to begin. So, 0:06:19.160 --> 0:06:24.440 but then you guys left me with this, this gem 0:06:24.680 --> 0:06:26.680 of the room has to be cold. 0:06:26.839 --> 0:06:29.120 Yeah, you sleep best if the room is freezing. I've 0:06:29.160 --> 0:06:31.640 heard that before, like sixty in the sixties. 0:06:31.680 --> 0:06:34.640 Well, yeah, my girlfriend took that to heart and now 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:36.000 every night. 0:06:36.160 --> 0:06:37.360 Yeah, it's cold as hell. 0:06:37.480 --> 0:06:39.599 It's been sixty five degrees in the bedroom. 0:06:39.640 --> 0:06:40.520 Are you sleeping better? 0:06:40.800 --> 0:06:43.160 No, blanket? 0:06:43.440 --> 0:06:49.120 No, I'm sleeping well. But it's not like I needed 0:06:49.120 --> 0:06:50.240 to be Africa hot. 0:06:50.400 --> 0:06:50.880 My wife. 0:06:51.000 --> 0:06:53.480 Well, that's why my wife likes it much colder than me. 0:06:53.760 --> 0:06:55.680 And that's why they have heating pad. That's what we're 0:06:55.680 --> 0:06:57.880 talking about. There's there's paths from actress where you can 0:06:57.880 --> 0:06:59.760 set the temperature so you could keep your side hot 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:00.640 and side cold. 0:07:00.800 --> 0:07:02.599 And it's something that throughout the DLT. 0:07:02.880 --> 0:07:12.400 Yeah perfect, I'm sorry, it's exactly right, but uh no, 0:07:12.480 --> 0:07:15.080 it's fun. And I think I think as men get older, 0:07:15.120 --> 0:07:17.280 they get colder. It is we would get older, they 0:07:17.320 --> 0:07:20.800 get hotter. Yeah, yeah, me and my wife have kind 0:07:20.800 --> 0:07:22.920 of We were just talking about how we like crossed over. 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:26.000 Like when we first started dating, I was always hot 0:07:26.000 --> 0:07:28.120 and she was always cold, and now I'm always cold 0:07:28.160 --> 0:07:30.120 and she's always hot. And we probably had like three 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:31.920 years where we were both the same temperature and we 0:07:31.920 --> 0:07:34.760 didn't realize how good that time was until it was gone. 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:39.040 No, it could be really probably problematic because I'll get up, 0:07:39.880 --> 0:07:46.880 I'll reach my limit at exactly like four to seventeen am. 0:07:45.160 --> 0:07:46.120 And you're freezing. 0:07:46.880 --> 0:07:49.840 Are you sure I'll sneak up? Isn't that? 0:07:52.200 --> 0:07:53.160 Remember it? 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:57.800 All right? You remember Sesame Street, the green guy in 0:07:57.920 --> 0:08:00.080 the in the in the trench coat that used to 0:08:00.120 --> 0:08:03.640 always sell ernie like a letter hey. 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:10.280 But yeah, yeah exactly, letter dealer, right, So like his 0:08:10.400 --> 0:08:15.280 little creep music, creeping tiptoe music. 0:08:15.360 --> 0:08:18.360 Yes, exactly. So I'm in my own house that I 0:08:18.440 --> 0:08:23.720 pay for creeping putting that ship back to like something 0:08:23.800 --> 0:08:25.280 normal like sixty eight. 0:08:26.080 --> 0:08:28.640 Yeah, I don't go below sixty eight ars. So that's 0:08:28.680 --> 0:08:31.240 where we've landed. My wife Lauren would go to this 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:33.200 like low sixties over thirty five. 0:08:33.240 --> 0:08:35.520 You gotta go to sixty six bra for a woman, 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:36.080 because you. 0:08:36.120 --> 0:08:39.040 Got us put on another blanket and then make it 0:08:39.080 --> 0:08:41.360 hot underneath it. You know what I'm saying, that's the goal. 0:08:42.120 --> 0:08:42.840 Think about it. 0:08:43.080 --> 0:08:45.439 What's the what's the logic behind keeping it colder? What's 0:08:45.480 --> 0:08:46.640 the physics of And. 0:08:46.640 --> 0:08:50.720 Then the thing is that your your brain is divided 0:08:50.720 --> 0:08:53.920 into two parts. There's the conscious brain and like the 0:08:53.960 --> 0:08:56.959 concert beans like hey, uh, I'm gonna go to work, 0:08:57.720 --> 0:09:00.000 I'm gonna go to work later today, I'm gonna take 0:09:00.080 --> 0:09:03.400 the subway home, I'm gonna lose weight, I'm going to 0:09:03.480 --> 0:09:05.800 ask that girl out. And then it's a subconscious which 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.600 does stuff like I'm gonna make sure your heart's beating, 0:09:08.800 --> 0:09:11.280 I'm gonna make sure you're waste. So it's the it's 0:09:11.320 --> 0:09:16.199 the part of your brain whoa yeah, what do you say? 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:22.800 And so it's actually a fish song of course, And so. 0:09:24.480 --> 0:09:29.040 Your body has to be totally knocked out. So you 0:09:29.080 --> 0:09:31.760 get to that ram state at exactly six hours and 0:09:31.800 --> 0:09:35.160 forty five minutes. When you're that sleep, then your right 0:09:35.200 --> 0:09:36.560 side of the brain's like waking up. 0:09:36.480 --> 0:09:39.080 Like all right, he's asleep, let's get to work. 0:09:39.480 --> 0:09:42.600 And so then that's where the fat burns. That's where 0:09:42.840 --> 0:09:45.440 like all the things that you want to help have 0:09:46.120 --> 0:09:49.520 happened for your life to be good. Your your brain's 0:09:49.559 --> 0:09:51.719 like all right, they're knocked out. Now now we can 0:09:51.760 --> 0:09:53.880 get to work. But the thing is that most of 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:59.000 us don't get that much sleep, so we're doing ourselves 0:09:59.080 --> 0:10:02.320 a disservice by only sleeping six to seven hours. 0:10:02.440 --> 0:10:03.480 It's terrible for you. 0:10:03.920 --> 0:10:06.840 Yeah, you didn't answer my questions. Why does it have 0:10:06.880 --> 0:10:07.400 to be cold? 0:10:07.920 --> 0:10:10.559 Probably because people it probably because it was cold at night. 0:10:10.800 --> 0:10:13.040 You're you mean like before we had houses. 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:15.680 Yeah, Like, it's probably like we're conditioned to sleep in 0:10:15.720 --> 0:10:17.360 colder environments, so. 0:10:20.160 --> 0:10:24.600 I think so. So at this event, Okay, can we 0:10:24.640 --> 0:10:27.280 disagree that this entire hour is going to be about this. 0:10:31.440 --> 0:10:33.160 I'm kind of when you're side of the fence. Why 0:10:33.200 --> 0:10:35.200 does it have to be so damn cold? No? 0:10:35.240 --> 0:10:37.280 I mean, I'm just asking, no, no, no, I'm asking. 0:10:37.400 --> 0:10:41.200 I'm what's the scientific part of I don't think coldness helps. 0:10:41.600 --> 0:10:42.000 I don't know. 0:10:42.040 --> 0:10:42.920 That's where I want to know. 0:10:43.040 --> 0:10:46.320 Google, where we changed the subject. 0:10:46.440 --> 0:10:48.280 I'm just going to suggest everybody hop on Google. 0:10:48.360 --> 0:10:52.880 Yeah, Google, and then we can continue. Anyway, let's talk 0:10:52.880 --> 0:10:53.480 about movies. 0:10:53.520 --> 0:10:53.839 Where are you? 0:10:55.760 --> 0:10:56.760 But you do sleep better? 0:10:56.800 --> 0:10:59.920 What it's cold? And that's the. 0:11:01.440 --> 0:11:04.880 Uh, we don't need wise, are we giving wise? We're 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:12.599 just giving answers here. It's been said completely unsubstantiated information scientists. 0:11:12.880 --> 0:11:15.280 Scientists have gone on record and said. 0:11:15.400 --> 0:11:17.640 We had a doctor he substantiated it. 0:11:17.880 --> 0:11:25.240 Yeah, I believe me and my curiosity. 0:11:25.679 --> 0:11:29.920 So you were born in Vancouver, Vancouver, British Columbia. Uh huh, 0:11:30.559 --> 0:11:33.200 home home of the the hip hop national anthem. 0:11:33.280 --> 0:11:36.920 Wait who else was Alia Chang? 0:11:36.920 --> 0:11:38.800 Because he's yeah. 0:11:38.679 --> 0:11:41.920 This episode has manager. Yeah, you know so, I think 0:11:41.920 --> 0:11:42.880 I've met her over the years. 0:11:42.920 --> 0:11:50.000 Actually she'll be on the future episodes anyway. Yeah, I know. 0:11:50.080 --> 0:11:52.959 The Rascals are a hip hop group from Vancouver. 0:11:52.720 --> 0:11:55.400 That were the Rascals, the Rascals they were called like 0:11:55.559 --> 0:11:59.480 uh and uh Northern Touch, Yeah, Rascals, checkmate, Cardinal Allen 0:11:59.559 --> 0:12:04.080 thrust Claire, how do you know this? How do you 0:12:04.160 --> 0:12:06.400 know that? Very no American knows that song? 0:12:06.440 --> 0:12:07.160 I do my research. 0:12:08.920 --> 0:12:12.240 Well, maybe you can help you straight to steal the 0:12:12.280 --> 0:12:14.280 beat of that song for a song. 0:12:15.040 --> 0:12:16.760 Yeah, there is a d MX song with. 0:12:16.880 --> 0:12:19.240 The exact same beat as Northern Touch, And I think 0:12:19.280 --> 0:12:21.560 if you're Canadian it's very jarring. 0:12:21.600 --> 0:12:23.760 But if you're like, oh, this is a good beat. 0:12:24.160 --> 0:12:30.640 Still I can't yeh express bt express ample that E 0:12:30.720 --> 0:12:33.959 P m D used head banger ev Well no, no, no 0:12:34.000 --> 0:12:38.760 for uh uh you know what I'm saying. Northern Touch first, 0:12:38.760 --> 0:12:41.240 get the bows that No, E B M D was first, 0:12:41.360 --> 0:12:44.960 and then Northern Touch yes maybe, and then DMX came 0:12:45.000 --> 0:12:45.760 and just took it. 0:12:46.960 --> 0:12:48.359 Did you did you? 0:12:48.400 --> 0:12:52.040 Did you know that your your hometown is also uh 0:12:52.960 --> 0:12:55.680 what what? I consider that the national anthem of hip hop? 0:12:56.120 --> 0:12:59.080 Did you know that Apache was created in Vancouver? 0:12:59.320 --> 0:12:59.840 Apache? 0:13:00.240 --> 0:13:04.000 Yes? Apache was recorded and created in Vancouver. 0:13:04.040 --> 0:13:04.280 Really? 0:13:04.600 --> 0:13:07.360 Yes, I did not know that. Yes, that's one of 0:13:07.440 --> 0:13:09.240 my favorite factoids. 0:13:08.679 --> 0:13:11.280 About that is a very good fact with Vancouver and 0:13:11.320 --> 0:13:13.760 the other and Nard Wars from Vancouver is the other. 0:13:13.960 --> 0:13:14.640 I love Artwar. 0:13:14.760 --> 0:13:17.600 Yeah, your interviews with him are great. Have you interviewed 0:13:18.000 --> 0:13:19.480 been I've been interviewed by him once. 0:13:19.640 --> 0:13:24.120 Have you ever seen a non savory NRD war interview 0:13:24.160 --> 0:13:25.840 like a lot of the earlier ones where they don't 0:13:25.880 --> 0:13:27.440 you know if he's trolling them or not? 0:13:27.600 --> 0:13:27.760 Oh? 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.560 Yes, So, I mean I grew up watching him, So 0:13:29.600 --> 0:13:31.520 I've seen like so many. 0:13:31.679 --> 0:13:32.920 How long has he been doing this? 0:13:33.280 --> 0:13:41.560 Like thirty years? He's like fifty something. Yes, he's younger 0:13:41.559 --> 0:13:41.840 than me. 0:13:42.200 --> 0:13:45.920 No, there's actually an amazing yard War interview with Nirvana, 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.680 like backstage at the P and E Forum, which is 0:13:48.720 --> 0:13:51.680 the place in Vancouver from like nineteen ninety, like three 0:13:51.800 --> 0:13:53.760 or something like Courtney Love is there and it's like 0:13:53.800 --> 0:13:57.440 a very long interview that's filmed and throughout it's like 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.560 forty minutes or something like. Throughout the course of it, 0:13:59.600 --> 0:14:02.720 you see Kurt Kobad like slowly realize he's a genius, 0:14:02.880 --> 0:14:05.120 and like, at first it's this thing where it's just like, 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.320 why is this fucking guy here bothering me? And then 0:14:07.360 --> 0:14:11.400 he slowly like clues in the house. Yeah, he totally 0:14:11.400 --> 0:14:13.920 does know. But I've seen because now people know who 0:14:13.960 --> 0:14:17.720 he is. Like, but for years I would watch interviews 0:14:17.720 --> 0:14:20.280 where famous musicians would just get interviewed by him and 0:14:20.320 --> 0:14:23.480 be like, who the fuck is this guy? And even 0:14:23.560 --> 0:14:26.720 still some people don't I feel like, don't get it. 0:14:26.760 --> 0:14:29.720 I feel like people all right, So that jay Z 0:14:29.840 --> 0:14:31.880 interviews jay Z didn't seem to appreciate. 0:14:32.000 --> 0:14:32.920 No. 0:14:33.040 --> 0:14:35.640 I warned him about it. I begged him to do it, 0:14:35.720 --> 0:14:39.440 and then Forrell doubled down. Yeah, so he did it. 0:14:40.160 --> 0:14:42.240 Because if we say it's a thing then jay Z 0:14:42.400 --> 0:14:44.280 is just one of them, fomo. I don't want to 0:14:44.280 --> 0:14:44.680 miss out. 0:14:44.800 --> 0:14:46.360 He's got no question. 0:14:50.040 --> 0:14:56.920 Anyway. And so but I'll say that the first time 0:14:57.800 --> 0:15:00.440 he interviewed me, I was paranoid because he just knew way. 0:15:00.680 --> 0:15:01.440 Oh it's weird. 0:15:01.560 --> 0:15:03.040 Too much information he. 0:15:03.080 --> 0:15:06.280 Knew about me. That was he brought out your books. Yeah, 0:15:06.280 --> 0:15:09.520 he had my high school yearbooks. Literally, he like knew people. 0:15:10.120 --> 0:15:13.280 He knew names that I hadn't heard in like, yeah, 0:15:13.440 --> 0:15:14.600 twenty five years. 0:15:14.840 --> 0:15:16.320 Back from the shop at your mommy store. 0:15:16.440 --> 0:15:20.400 Yes, literally that. Yeah, it's totally crazy. 0:15:20.440 --> 0:15:21.280 It would freak me out. 0:15:21.360 --> 0:15:24.760 It was super fucking freaky. But his knowledge is bizarre. 0:15:24.760 --> 0:15:27.120 He's always trying to get to Kanye. He's like that's 0:15:27.160 --> 0:15:29.200 his holy grail. He like emails me and. 0:15:29.160 --> 0:15:33.320 Tells me are YouTube? Oh not at all? Yes, I 0:15:33.360 --> 0:15:34.560 can see that going very bad. 0:15:36.600 --> 0:15:40.040 He somehow thinks that I have the magic touch to 0:15:40.160 --> 0:15:41.480 get him to the Obamas. 0:15:41.840 --> 0:15:47.120 Wow, I would be for Kanye. So yeah, that's a 0:15:47.160 --> 0:15:49.040 big step in a much better direction. 0:15:50.120 --> 0:15:53.400 I read somewhere somebody said online that, uh that when 0:15:53.440 --> 0:15:55.320 you get to the purlegates of Heaven, it's nard war 0:15:55.480 --> 0:16:01.280 that Yeah, he's the one that reviewing your entire life there. 0:16:02.360 --> 0:16:06.160 So, speaking of your hometown, are you is every time 0:16:06.200 --> 0:16:12.480 I ask anybody from Vancouver, are you knowledgeable the La 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:16.960 Cassa gelato or is that just for tour suckers like me? 0:16:17.400 --> 0:16:18.240 It's the place that. 0:16:18.400 --> 0:16:22.920 Has like hundreds of flavors of Gilado. Yeah, it's near. 0:16:23.600 --> 0:16:26.120 It's on like the like north end of kind of 0:16:26.160 --> 0:16:27.120 the east side of Vancouver. 0:16:27.240 --> 0:16:29.560 It's my favorite place. Ever, I might. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:32.240 It's not somewhere I grew up going, but it's somewhere 0:16:32.280 --> 0:16:34.520 that I've heard of it. 0:16:35.160 --> 0:16:36.440 I think it might be kind of a you know, 0:16:36.480 --> 0:16:38.040 it's like mc vinegar. 0:16:39.240 --> 0:16:40.800 Yeah, it was one of the first places to start 0:16:40.840 --> 0:16:42.560 doing like weird flavors or ship like that. 0:16:42.680 --> 0:16:46.760 Yeah. They basically just cheese ice cream, man. 0:16:46.800 --> 0:16:48.640 Like a tobacco one or something like that. 0:16:48.880 --> 0:16:49.600 Yeah, for a while. 0:16:49.720 --> 0:16:50.680 Yeah, Well, I mean. 0:16:50.640 --> 0:16:52.640 Something that some of the weird ones I liked, Like 0:16:52.680 --> 0:16:54.120 they have black pepper vanilla. 0:16:54.400 --> 0:16:56.040 That's weird. How is cheddar cheese? 0:16:57.600 --> 0:17:01.080 Well that's the thing. You you basically you sample all 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.120 the weird ones and you get the rocky road. 0:17:03.160 --> 0:17:08.520 That's you know, that's a purely like North American thing 0:17:08.560 --> 0:17:09.600 is sampling ice cream. 0:17:09.800 --> 0:17:12.720 Like, uh, what I was considered rude. Well, I was 0:17:12.720 --> 0:17:15.080 in Italy and uh not to brag. 0:17:16.600 --> 0:17:19.239 That was in Italy in a gelato shop and there 0:17:19.320 --> 0:17:21.760 was like a rush of Americans left and me and 0:17:21.800 --> 0:17:23.679 my wife for the holy people at the restaurant, and 0:17:23.680 --> 0:17:26.160 the woman behind the counter like very quietly looked at us. 0:17:26.119 --> 0:17:28.280 And goes, can I ask you a question? We're like, yeah, 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:35.239 how come American always ask the taste? And she's like, 0:17:35.359 --> 0:17:38.880 what is this? Like nowhere else you asked to taste them? 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:40.679 And I was like, you're right when you put it 0:17:40.720 --> 0:17:43.159 like that, it is pretty fucking weird, Like nowhere else 0:17:43.240 --> 0:17:43.560 you'd be like. 0:17:43.560 --> 0:17:45.159 Can I try that sandwich? Piece of. 0:17:47.359 --> 0:17:47.679 Ros? 0:17:47.720 --> 0:17:48.840 That's what I said. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.600 I said, I think it all roots back to this 0:17:50.640 --> 0:17:52.959 one place, basket Robbins, where they encourage people to do 0:17:53.000 --> 0:17:56.360 it and that ruined really ice cream all over the 0:17:57.080 --> 0:17:58.640 Yeah there that the sun. 0:18:00.960 --> 0:18:03.960 They I'm like, yeah, they combined with Duncan donuts. 0:18:03.960 --> 0:18:08.720 No, No, that's the thing. I know that the Sun 0:18:09.040 --> 0:18:14.959 inherited the empire, and because you know, like generations are 0:18:14.960 --> 0:18:18.639 the opposite of what their parents were, the Sun wasn't like, 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:22.280 you know, he didn't he was concerned about the cows. 0:18:22.280 --> 0:18:28.360 They were using and wanted free range, and so instead 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:31.080 he took the family money and did this expose on 0:18:31.240 --> 0:18:36.360 how like ice cream companies are ruining cows or environment 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:37.120 and all those things. 0:18:37.160 --> 0:18:38.480 It's like ice cream succession. 0:18:38.800 --> 0:18:45.359 So they that's crazy basket around. 0:18:45.400 --> 0:18:47.280 I was just saying the ice cream industry. 0:18:46.960 --> 0:18:49.600 Which explains why they had to partner. 0:18:49.520 --> 0:18:57.520 With that Margarita flavor. Still there is good Margarite ice 0:18:57.560 --> 0:18:58.680 cream have a Margarita flavor. 0:18:58.720 --> 0:18:59.399 They've had it forever. 0:18:59.840 --> 0:19:02.520 My good to condition children at a young age to 0:19:02.840 --> 0:19:04.560 develop a taste from Margarita's. 0:19:06.359 --> 0:19:10.879 So twenty minutes. So twenty minutes into this interview, let's start. 0:19:13.920 --> 0:19:17.960 So you being born in the early eighties in Vancouver, 0:19:19.400 --> 0:19:23.440 what was the what was your environment like in your household? 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:29.320 My household, I lived on the East Side of Vancouver, 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:34.359 which in like a one hundred percent like East Indian neighborhood, 0:19:35.359 --> 0:19:39.040 So it was it was great. It was like I 0:19:39.040 --> 0:19:40.879 would walk around a lot. I was just arguing with 0:19:40.920 --> 0:19:43.480 my parents. Their memory was that I never walked around alone, 0:19:43.560 --> 0:19:46.840 and I definitively did all the time. It would take 0:19:46.920 --> 0:19:50.000 the bus all around the city. But uh yeah, but 0:19:50.080 --> 0:19:51.280 I went to school on the West side. 0:19:51.400 --> 0:19:52.320 I grew up. 0:19:52.720 --> 0:19:54.439 I started doing stand up when I was young, like 0:19:54.480 --> 0:19:58.400 twelve or thirteen, and I would started writing around then too. 0:19:58.400 --> 0:20:02.000 And I smoked weed a lot. Not much has changed 0:20:02.040 --> 0:20:03.080 my life since I was twelve. 0:20:03.119 --> 0:20:08.480 I ag So the myth, the myth of super Bad 0:20:08.520 --> 0:20:12.119 and you crafting this at such a young age is one. 0:20:13.600 --> 0:20:14.920 Yes, for sure. Yeah. 0:20:14.960 --> 0:20:17.760 Me and my partner Evan, who I still work with, 0:20:18.640 --> 0:20:21.159 met in bar Mitzvah class when we were twelve and 0:20:21.200 --> 0:20:24.520 then started writing together not long after that, and we 0:20:24.680 --> 0:20:27.400 had Yeah, we probably finished the draft to super Bad 0:20:27.400 --> 0:20:29.959 when we were like fourteen or fifteen from the complete 0:20:30.520 --> 0:20:32.920 yeah by then, but we started we were like thirteen, 0:20:33.000 --> 0:20:35.080 And there is some and it's like it's one of 0:20:35.080 --> 0:20:37.280 those things where it's almost sad that, like, I'm not 0:20:37.440 --> 0:20:39.479 that much smarter or fuddier that I was when I 0:20:39.520 --> 0:20:42.040 was thirteen years old, because there are some jokes in 0:20:42.080 --> 0:20:44.640 the movie that like we wrote when we were thirteen 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.560 that are still in the movie, that are in the 0:20:46.560 --> 0:20:49.800 movie that like that held up and that are still Yeah, 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:51.879 you'd like to think you got better in that amount 0:20:51.880 --> 0:20:52.960 of time at fourteen. 0:20:53.400 --> 0:20:55.439 Yes, look like a professional, I'm. 0:20:55.280 --> 0:20:57.840 Trying to say, I I asked my mom to buy 0:20:57.880 --> 0:21:00.919 me Final Draft, which was the script writing software, and 0:21:00.960 --> 0:21:03.280 she did. My parents were like super supportive because I 0:21:03.280 --> 0:21:05.639 also didn't stand up, so they saw that like I 0:21:05.640 --> 0:21:07.280 would work hard, you know what I mean? 0:21:07.280 --> 0:21:08.040 This is ninety six. 0:21:08.480 --> 0:21:11.399 Yeah, this is probably ninety five or ninety six or 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:14.320 something like that. Yeah, ninety five, I would say ninety six. 0:21:14.400 --> 0:21:17.280 Yeah, Like all right, I'm curious. And this is leads 0:21:17.400 --> 0:21:21.840 back to the conscious subconscious. When you're subconscious, it's convinced 0:21:22.240 --> 0:21:27.520 of something, then your body does it, which which explains 0:21:27.560 --> 0:21:32.880 why you know, Kanye uses outward affirmations I am the greatest, yes, 0:21:33.520 --> 0:21:37.080 and then everything happens for him, the same way with Trump, 0:21:37.359 --> 0:21:39.640 the same way with Diddy, the same with with Jay. 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.520 Remember Day remix it and called it a secret six million. 0:21:42.240 --> 0:21:48.120 Dollars account six million do secret? 0:21:45.880 --> 0:21:46.119 I have. 0:21:48.560 --> 0:21:50.280 Six million dollars in my make account. 0:21:50.040 --> 0:21:51.360 Right now, right now. 0:21:51.560 --> 0:21:59.480 So I'm curious what what inside you gave you the 0:21:59.480 --> 0:22:01.800 the balls to even be like, yo, let's write a 0:22:01.840 --> 0:22:04.560 movie now, Like it didn't even start with like, let's 0:22:05.040 --> 0:22:06.440 start with community theater. 0:22:06.760 --> 0:22:08.280 Yeah, hey, how do you do this? 0:22:08.440 --> 0:22:09.919 Or did you see a movie? One day? Is like 0:22:10.280 --> 0:22:13.440 I could do literally that's what happened? Like what movie 0:22:13.480 --> 0:22:14.640 did you see that sets you off? 0:22:14.680 --> 0:22:18.200 I can't remember, and we are all we loved fiction. 0:22:18.600 --> 0:22:21.080 That was like no, like that was something. I had 0:22:21.080 --> 0:22:25.000 a pulp fiction poster on my bedroom door, like throughout. 0:22:24.640 --> 0:22:26.679 If you were a teenager in the nineties, you had. 0:22:26.720 --> 0:22:29.240 Yeah, I mean that came out in ninety four, maybe 0:22:29.280 --> 0:22:31.080 I was twelve, so we saw it around then, and 0:22:31.359 --> 0:22:35.199 it was it was also the era of like independent 0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:37.439 It was like the resurgence of this independent film like 0:22:37.880 --> 0:22:41.919 Clarks came out and Rushmore and Wes Anderson had Bottle Rocket, 0:22:42.080 --> 0:22:44.000 so there was saw this film. Oh yeah, we were 0:22:44.000 --> 0:22:46.480 obsessed with them. And it's also one of those things 0:22:46.480 --> 0:22:50.280 that was my parents loved movies and they were just 0:22:50.400 --> 0:22:52.440 huge movie fans, so they would like watch a lot 0:22:52.440 --> 0:22:53.960 of movies and collect movies. 0:22:54.280 --> 0:22:57.760 Vancouver. They made some stuff. 0:22:57.440 --> 0:23:00.440 There, so it's not like Hollywood, but like you would 0:23:00.520 --> 0:23:04.040 see movie sets around and so there was like it 0:23:04.119 --> 0:23:06.520 wasn't this like completely unobtainable thing. 0:23:06.960 --> 0:23:08.000 And then in. 0:23:08.000 --> 0:23:10.480 High school, our high school was right across the street 0:23:10.480 --> 0:23:13.800 from to video store like giant video stores, and we 0:23:13.800 --> 0:23:16.000 would rent movies, like we watched. 0:23:16.200 --> 0:23:17.359 All we would do is like smoke. 0:23:17.400 --> 0:23:21.320 We'd watch movies basically, and when you watch enough movies 0:23:21.359 --> 0:23:23.520 you start to think, maybe we could do this, and 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:27.199 if we write something that's like cheap, then maybe that 0:23:27.320 --> 0:23:29.760 was always the thought was like it was said in 0:23:29.840 --> 0:23:31.919 high school, super Bad, and we were like, where it 0:23:31.920 --> 0:23:34.280 comes to worst, like this becomes something we like we 0:23:34.320 --> 0:23:35.919 made movies with like our like you know, we had 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.080 a video camera. We were like, we could technically make 0:23:38.119 --> 0:23:40.399 this ourselves if we wanted to. 0:23:40.880 --> 0:23:46.720 You know, what was your north star in terms of Okay? 0:23:46.920 --> 0:23:50.200 So now it's just hitting me that because I have 0:23:50.400 --> 0:23:54.000 family that worked at an independent movie theater, yeah, back 0:23:54.040 --> 0:23:58.280 in ninety one ninety two, so I always have free tickets. 0:23:58.840 --> 0:24:01.119 But you know, we're seeing al Rachi, We're seeing like 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:05.000 all these indie films, which I mean the time, I 0:24:05.000 --> 0:24:08.720 didn't realize it, but it was grooming me to gear 0:24:08.800 --> 0:24:11.879 towards art house stuff as opposed to mainstream stuff. But 0:24:12.040 --> 0:24:15.960 for you, what were your Were you a film snob 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:17.760 or were you just like I got Poor GI's and 0:24:17.800 --> 0:24:18.240 Hot Dog? 0:24:18.400 --> 0:24:21.760 Yeah, no, the Ski Movie, yeah, of course. 0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:29.080 I liked Hamburger the motion pictures, Yeah, Hamburger, Hamburger. 0:24:30.240 --> 0:24:31.520 Was there a Hamburger movie. 0:24:31.560 --> 0:24:34.160 Yes, I gotta see it. 0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:35.720 It was amazing on TV. 0:24:35.880 --> 0:24:41.000 There's a specific like C movie VHS section, anything that 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.600 was on HBO late night, and like in we. 0:24:43.600 --> 0:24:45.560 Would just rent movies based on what the cover of 0:24:45.560 --> 0:24:47.240 the box looking garbage. 0:24:47.560 --> 0:24:48.880 Anybody can find the garbage. 0:24:49.080 --> 0:24:51.880 It's funny, Busy do might movie just came out. I watched, 0:24:52.119 --> 0:24:54.719 But we were we were obsessed with Dolemite because like 0:24:54.800 --> 0:24:56.840 it was one of those reason that like purely based 0:24:56.880 --> 0:24:59.080 on the we're like what is this? 0:25:00.080 --> 0:25:01.560 We did the same We did the same thing, like 0:25:01.600 --> 0:25:03.040 every Friday night, we would all meet up at this 0:25:03.040 --> 0:25:05.199 Mexican restaurant in town and then we would all like 0:25:05.280 --> 0:25:07.760 caravan over to the video store, argue for about half 0:25:07.760 --> 0:25:09.200 an hour about what video we're going to pick out. 0:25:09.400 --> 0:25:10.520 Oh, we would argue for hours. 0:25:10.640 --> 0:25:12.280 We spend more time in the video store than we 0:25:12.280 --> 0:25:14.439 would watching the movies we rented at the video Like 0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.680 that was the activity was going to the video store 0:25:16.720 --> 0:25:18.600 inside we argue over. 0:25:18.520 --> 0:25:18.960 What we did. 0:25:19.119 --> 0:25:21.040 We called it a tasteless movie night. We would try to 0:25:21.040 --> 0:25:22.879 find the most tasteless movie we could find in the 0:25:22.960 --> 0:25:24.679 video stoffect Yeah, and we would just go to my 0:25:24.680 --> 0:25:26.600 friend Darren's basement and watch it and just like it 0:25:26.640 --> 0:25:30.119 was commentary, it was perfect commentary involved. I'm sure if 0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:32.040 there had been. Well his mom was a teachers that. 0:25:32.000 --> 0:25:35.840 Would never So what were your go to films? 0:25:36.280 --> 0:25:38.360 Well, I think it's like one thing I look at 0:25:38.480 --> 0:25:39.800 is like the movies. 0:25:39.840 --> 0:25:41.719 It's obviously something I've thought about, you know, is like 0:25:41.800 --> 0:25:45.000 the movies my parents owned, Like they owned like forty 0:25:45.040 --> 0:25:47.480 movies on like vhs that they would like there was 0:25:47.520 --> 0:25:48.880 like three movies to a VHS. 0:25:48.920 --> 0:25:51.560 They would tape them off TV yes when they came 0:25:51.600 --> 0:25:52.680 on and like. 0:25:52.680 --> 0:25:53.840 Would you ever watch them? 0:25:54.000 --> 0:25:55.320 I did all the time. 0:25:55.440 --> 0:25:59.600 And those movies are like cementing in my brain. I know, 0:26:00.160 --> 0:26:02.960 reward to every one of me. And I also bet 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:04.880 that if I like made a list of all those 0:26:04.920 --> 0:26:09.240 movies they like directly correlate to the movies that I've 0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:13.880 made since then basically like well, it's like Ghostbusters, they 0:26:14.200 --> 0:26:15.000 and movies like that. 0:26:15.080 --> 0:26:16.280 My dad loved Bill Murray. 0:26:17.280 --> 0:26:20.479 They also loved like Woody Allen and like Independent like 0:26:20.520 --> 0:26:22.359 they like they had like Hannah and Her Sisters and 0:26:22.440 --> 0:26:24.320 like any halland movies like that. And I would watch 0:26:24.320 --> 0:26:27.320 those movies a lot. And then they had like Albert 0:26:27.359 --> 0:26:29.879 Brooks movies, and my dad loved Billy Crystal and so 0:26:30.040 --> 0:26:31.399 like it was a lot of that stuff. And my 0:26:31.520 --> 0:26:33.960 mom though, loved action movies, and so we had like 0:26:34.040 --> 0:26:38.159 Die Hard and Total Recall and like Under Siege, I 0:26:38.240 --> 0:26:40.720 remember we had right when it came out, and Lethal 0:26:40.800 --> 0:26:42.840 Weapon was like, it's like one of my mom's favorite movies. 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:47.720 And so I would watch these like emotionally driven kind 0:26:47.800 --> 0:26:51.560 of comedy drama movies and like the most violent, insane 0:26:51.760 --> 0:26:55.240 action movies. And that's kind of a lot of the 0:26:55.320 --> 0:27:02.640 stuff we make now, I see. Yeah, And so all 0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.879 those movies like we loved, and then when yeah, and 0:27:05.920 --> 0:27:07.760 then when Paul Fiction and those movies started to come out, 0:27:07.840 --> 0:27:10.399 we became cessam Reservoir Dogs we loved and like. 0:27:11.840 --> 0:27:12.960 And then we got. 0:27:12.800 --> 0:27:15.680 Really in a Sam Raimie and Peter Jackson's early movies 0:27:15.720 --> 0:27:18.480 like Army of Darkness we watched over and over and 0:27:18.480 --> 0:27:20.600 over again and Dead Alive we watched. 0:27:20.640 --> 0:27:21.600 We watched a lot. 0:27:21.480 --> 0:27:24.320 And like, uh yeah, and then to see those guys 0:27:24.359 --> 0:27:27.360 go on that was another thing. Is like you'd see like, oh, 0:27:27.400 --> 0:27:29.960 like Sam Raimi's Drict and Spider Man and like these 0:27:30.000 --> 0:27:32.760 guys who like we were already fans of for making 0:27:32.800 --> 0:27:36.960 like the weirdest shit ever were then crossing over and 0:27:37.000 --> 0:27:40.000 becoming really successful and I think making big things and 0:27:40.040 --> 0:27:42.680 that was also I think something we always liked and 0:27:43.000 --> 0:27:45.800 that was interesting to us. But no, I mean we 0:27:45.920 --> 0:27:47.280 just like devoured. 0:27:46.920 --> 0:27:50.560 The Vancouver have much of a social or nightlife because 0:27:50.560 --> 0:27:54.520 I'm a I'm almost thinking of I'm thinking that Vancouver 0:27:54.760 --> 0:27:58.720 is almost like all right, what Minneapolis was to print, yeah, 0:27:58.760 --> 0:28:02.240 and how there was a scene there, but because there's 0:28:02.320 --> 0:28:05.119 not much to do. Yes, he had a lot of 0:28:05.160 --> 0:28:06.480 time to hone his craft. 0:28:06.200 --> 0:28:08.800 Yes, to do music a lot, Yes, And the weather 0:28:09.280 --> 0:28:12.640 determines staying in Vancouver is a city where people sit, 0:28:12.880 --> 0:28:15.000 like go to someone's house and smoke weed. 0:28:15.280 --> 0:28:18.480 That's like the activity your experience. 0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:22.040 That is like what people do there, or and when 0:28:22.040 --> 0:28:24.800 it's nice out, you go to a not a nature 0:28:24.880 --> 0:28:27.960 place and smoke weed. It's like a very like weed 0:28:28.160 --> 0:28:31.560 was like super prevalent and like it's a huge It's 0:28:31.560 --> 0:28:33.640 like one of the most progressive cities in the world 0:28:33.720 --> 0:28:35.159 when it comes to weed. 0:28:34.960 --> 0:28:38.360 Even in the nineties. So you've never been arrested for 0:28:39.000 --> 0:28:39.400 the right. 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.479 When I moved to La I got arrested because I 0:28:41.560 --> 0:28:45.800 didn't understand how much more strict it wash than it 0:28:45.840 --> 0:28:48.000 was in Vancouver. Like all throughout high school, if we 0:28:48.040 --> 0:28:51.200 got caught with weed, the cops wouldn't would just take it. 0:28:51.560 --> 0:28:53.480 They wouldn't even always take it. They would just be 0:28:53.600 --> 0:28:59.360 like go away, like like it was such dulow on priority, 0:28:59.480 --> 0:29:02.960 like on the priorities, because Vancouver had like a terrible, 0:29:03.200 --> 0:29:06.280 terrible heroin problem and it was like had a really 0:29:06.400 --> 0:29:09.920 rough drug problem, and so weed very early on became 0:29:10.040 --> 0:29:13.920 deprioritized and decriminalized. And from when I was a kid, 0:29:13.920 --> 0:29:15.760 there was a coffee shop you could go smoke weed 0:29:15.840 --> 0:29:19.000 in and there was like indoor like places you go 0:29:19.040 --> 0:29:19.680 inside and smoke. 0:29:19.720 --> 0:29:23.400 We seth you never know, we would see I have. 0:29:23.880 --> 0:29:25.440 But yeah, when I first moved to l A, we'd 0:29:25.440 --> 0:29:26.720 buy pounds of Mexican weed. 0:29:29.080 --> 0:29:32.840 Wait virgin here was I mean, I mean lots of 0:29:32.880 --> 0:29:36.200 seeds and this is reggie. 0:29:35.840 --> 0:29:37.880 So it's call it reggie regular weed. 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:40.600 But to me, if Vancouver has been in the hierarchy 0:29:40.680 --> 0:29:42.760 of the weed gang, I would just assume that like 0:29:43.080 --> 0:29:44.200 you're that. 0:29:44.280 --> 0:29:45.240 Good like hydroponic. 0:29:45.400 --> 0:29:48.880 You don't want to seeds, you know, it takes that's 0:29:48.920 --> 0:29:52.920 a sterile part to wait I don't know if that's true. 0:29:56.640 --> 0:30:00.600 I don't know if there's size. That's what associated. 0:30:00.720 --> 0:30:03.680 That's what I'm saying. Why is it taking three years 0:30:03.680 --> 0:30:05.600 for me to really wait? How are you just gonna 0:30:05.640 --> 0:30:07.400 let Laya come here and drink your milk? 0:30:07.440 --> 0:30:07.680 Seeds? 0:30:07.800 --> 0:30:10.760 Right, all of our parents spoke with seeds in them, 0:30:10.800 --> 0:30:12.560 and we stole them. We have to pick them out 0:30:12.760 --> 0:30:15.560 and it pops into birds of seats, seats, this leather. 0:30:16.080 --> 0:30:17.640 Sure, it falls out of the joint. 0:30:17.640 --> 0:30:19.520 Sometimes. My dad's a cull for it all the time. God, 0:30:19.640 --> 0:30:21.920 damn daddy, always looking in your car, look at them holes. 0:30:23.520 --> 0:30:36.760 Sorry, I didn't know that you started standing up at 0:30:36.760 --> 0:30:37.480 a young age. 0:30:37.560 --> 0:30:39.560 Fourteen? Yeah, thirteen or fourteen? 0:30:39.760 --> 0:30:43.160 Okay, so the only person I know they had the 0:30:43.200 --> 0:30:44.480 experience with Chappelle. 0:30:44.880 --> 0:30:47.680 How I think Eddie Murphy started around that age. Yeah, 0:30:47.720 --> 0:30:48.680 so very much better. 0:30:48.760 --> 0:30:53.800 How do you how do you even negotiate your way 0:30:53.880 --> 0:30:55.680 into a club? Yeah? 0:30:57.160 --> 0:31:00.000 My mom helped, She would talk to She drove me 0:31:00.080 --> 0:31:05.120 to every show, literally because I couldn't drive. And yeah, 0:31:05.120 --> 0:31:09.400 and what's funny is very early on it's one of 0:31:09.440 --> 0:31:12.239 those like happy coincidences. I did a show that I 0:31:12.240 --> 0:31:14.680 did a fundraiser when I was like fourteen, a small 0:31:14.720 --> 0:31:18.120 one that the premiere who's like the governor kind of 0:31:18.120 --> 0:31:21.120 a British Columbia, was at and my mother cornered him 0:31:21.440 --> 0:31:23.880 and was like, if my son's performing at a bar, 0:31:24.240 --> 0:31:25.800 can he be in the bar? And the guy was like, 0:31:25.880 --> 0:31:29.000 legally yes, And she caught his office to send a 0:31:29.080 --> 0:31:33.160 letter wow saying that as long as I was performing, 0:31:33.280 --> 0:31:35.600 it is legal for me to be in the premises 0:31:35.640 --> 0:31:37.440 and I and I would have to leave right after. 0:31:37.760 --> 0:31:40.680 So like I would sit backstage and I would show 0:31:40.680 --> 0:31:42.600 it to the club. There was only four clubs anyway, 0:31:42.600 --> 0:31:44.120 but once they had all seen it, they would let 0:31:44.160 --> 0:31:47.480 me perform there and and then I performed like regularly, 0:31:47.520 --> 0:31:49.400 and I was like, I was like pretty good, Like 0:31:49.480 --> 0:31:49.880 I wasn't. 0:31:50.040 --> 0:31:51.840 What was a check like at the age? Did you 0:31:51.840 --> 0:31:52.320 get a check? 0:31:52.400 --> 0:31:54.160 Every once in a while, I would like open for 0:31:54.240 --> 0:31:56.560 a comic and I'd get like one hundred and fifty 0:31:56.560 --> 0:31:58.480 bucks or something like that, which when you're fucking but 0:31:59.280 --> 0:32:00.440 like fantastic. 0:32:00.080 --> 0:32:02.840 You use your your kiddom, did you use your youth? 0:32:03.160 --> 0:32:05.360 I tried not to. I tried to. 0:32:05.560 --> 0:32:08.160 I would talk well at first, I didn't at all, 0:32:08.360 --> 0:32:11.040 and I because I was so self conscious about being 0:32:11.080 --> 0:32:13.480 like gimmicky that I would try. 0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.800 To tell you fourteen, I know it like rocket adult. 0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:21.160 I was very neurotic, and I didn't want to be 0:32:21.520 --> 0:32:24.320 like the kid comics, so I tried to write jokes 0:32:24.520 --> 0:32:27.080 that that any comic would write that were like more 0:32:27.120 --> 0:32:28.520 like observational humor, but. 0:32:28.480 --> 0:32:31.320 It were I was always wanted to. 0:32:35.600 --> 0:32:38.400 I didn't actually at first at all. Also, but then 0:32:38.640 --> 0:32:41.080 I remember this comic Daryl Lennox, who still does stand 0:32:41.160 --> 0:32:42.920 up and he's great. 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.200 He was like I was telling just. 0:32:46.280 --> 0:32:48.960 Like like all the cogs would make fun of me 0:32:48.960 --> 0:32:50.760 because I had a joke about like crazy glue. What's 0:32:50.760 --> 0:32:54.120 so crazy about it? It was like this like observational 0:32:54.720 --> 0:32:58.480 tumor of all time. And then and then Darryl I remember, 0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:00.960 like sat me down and I was like fifteen, and 0:33:01.000 --> 0:33:04.120 he was like, dude, like you are the only one 0:33:04.160 --> 0:33:07.400 of us who is like experiencing all these things like 0:33:07.480 --> 0:33:10.320 in real time, Like you're trying to kiss girls for 0:33:10.360 --> 0:33:12.440 the first time, you're trying to get your driver's license, 0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:14.320 you're trying to buy beer, you're trying to go to parties, 0:33:14.360 --> 0:33:17.080 you're trying to sneak into strip clubs, like right, jokes 0:33:17.120 --> 0:33:20.480 about that, like that's something that like everyone's gone through 0:33:20.520 --> 0:33:23.640 in some way and you're living it like right now, 0:33:24.160 --> 0:33:27.360 and and I was like okay. And then that was 0:33:27.400 --> 0:33:29.680 also one of the things that really influenced Super Bad, 0:33:29.720 --> 0:33:32.000 where at first it was more like, let's write a 0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:33.760 high school movie, and then we were like, no, let's 0:33:33.760 --> 0:33:37.479 write like whenever something happens to us, let's put it 0:33:37.480 --> 0:33:40.720 in the movie, and let's make us the characters in 0:33:40.760 --> 0:33:42.680 the movie, and let's like structure it around. 0:33:42.680 --> 0:33:44.920 So those things happened to you guys in. 0:33:44.920 --> 0:33:47.600 Super Bad, not all in one night, but almost a 0:33:48.040 --> 0:33:51.440 lot of the stuff in the movie happened, Yeah, like 0:33:51.520 --> 0:33:54.160 in some form or another, like and everything. 0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:56.120 So you grind it up against the girl, and. 0:33:56.240 --> 0:33:57.520 That happened at a school dance. 0:33:57.600 --> 0:34:04.120 Yeah, that that that actually, And in real life, I 0:34:04.440 --> 0:34:07.200 was one of the guys. Like it played out almost 0:34:07.360 --> 0:34:10.359 verbatim as it did in the movie, except one of 0:34:10.400 --> 0:34:13.319 our friends was the Jodah character in real life, and 0:34:13.360 --> 0:34:14.440 I was one of the guys. 0:34:14.200 --> 0:34:15.840 Who was like, what is that, Like, what's on your 0:34:15.920 --> 0:34:19.320 leg there? And that's what happened. 0:34:19.360 --> 0:34:20.960 And so, yeah, it was a school dance and we 0:34:21.000 --> 0:34:23.080 all put our stuff in like the locker room in 0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:26.240 the gym locker room like before, and we were getting 0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:29.319 it after the dance and yeah, and like one of 0:34:29.360 --> 0:34:31.200 our friends was like, did you spill it yourself? And 0:34:31.200 --> 0:34:33.279 I think we were there like looking at it and 0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:34.880 then and then what happened? 0:34:34.920 --> 0:34:36.680 And we kind of allude to this to the movies. 0:34:36.719 --> 0:34:38.680 We noticed on the other side of the locker room 0:34:38.719 --> 0:34:41.279 there was another group of guys having the exact same 0:34:41.400 --> 0:34:45.240 conversation and they were all like looking at their friend's legs, 0:34:45.239 --> 0:34:46.759 poking at me like what is that? 0:34:46.760 --> 0:34:48.800 Did you spill themselves? 0:34:49.160 --> 0:34:51.719 And then like the two groups like locked eyes from 0:34:51.719 --> 0:34:53.520 across the room and it was like this, guys are 0:34:53.560 --> 0:34:55.240 so same moment where it was like, oh. 0:34:55.200 --> 0:34:59.919 No, I think we have a situation on our. 0:35:01.600 --> 0:35:04.120 And then there was a lot of like cross referencing 0:35:04.200 --> 0:35:07.200 who they had danced with and. 0:35:07.440 --> 0:35:10.560 Wait, I got a preface for two people who haven't 0:35:10.920 --> 0:35:14.120 not seen Super Bad. There's there's a crucial scene where 0:35:15.640 --> 0:35:18.680 there's a dance sort of grindy dance moment in which 0:35:18.680 --> 0:35:23.560 a girl rubs her crouch on Jonah Hills. I think 0:35:23.600 --> 0:35:35.880 it's pronounced I forgot inside, unbeknown that Jonah Hill is 0:35:37.160 --> 0:35:40.160 thighs or his jeans are now maroon five. 0:35:40.360 --> 0:35:45.040 Yes, they got period, their bloody period, it happened. 0:35:45.360 --> 0:35:46.520 Oh wait, you're just getting that now. 0:35:46.640 --> 0:35:48.279 I just remember I thought I couldn't remember if k 0:35:48.400 --> 0:35:49.080 on himself. 0:35:48.880 --> 0:35:56.799 Or also on the table, the waking about it that. 0:35:56.800 --> 0:35:58.560 Was in long shot almost. 0:36:00.080 --> 0:36:00.200 You know. 0:36:01.239 --> 0:36:06.279 My favorite thing about I visit a lot of local 0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:09.880 comedy houses in New York. My favorite thing is actually 0:36:10.239 --> 0:36:17.480 watching people bomb yeahfl no, no, no, only because like 0:36:18.560 --> 0:36:20.160 now I'm entering the stage of my life where I'm 0:36:20.200 --> 0:36:23.640 i have to give a lot more public addressing, and 0:36:23.880 --> 0:36:27.680 it's always how you handle yourself in that moment that 0:36:28.000 --> 0:36:31.320 separates the men from the boys. So a lot of times, 0:36:31.400 --> 0:36:34.239 like if you watch if you go to like I 0:36:34.360 --> 0:36:38.200 love going to the store in LA when it's the 0:36:38.640 --> 0:36:41.640 like the one am show, the very last show, and 0:36:41.800 --> 0:36:44.880 usually like the last three people's are always like the doorman, 0:36:45.880 --> 0:36:47.799 the bell guy like okay, I'll let you go up 0:36:47.800 --> 0:36:49.560 and do five minutes, like everyone's left the room. 0:36:50.080 --> 0:36:52.040 I performed there at that time when I was like 0:36:52.560 --> 0:36:53.319 sixteen years old. 0:36:53.640 --> 0:36:57.000 Because I feel in my mind that whenever I'm watching them, 0:36:57.719 --> 0:37:02.799 then I believe at one point either not Jerar Carmichael 0:37:03.040 --> 0:37:06.560 who's the guy that I liked Neighbors nigh Yeah, Jamar 0:37:06.640 --> 0:37:09.640 Nighbors was one of those guys and he's hilarious, Like 0:37:09.680 --> 0:37:13.720 he's one of Jerari Carmichael's dudes. But like it's always 0:37:13.880 --> 0:37:16.880 the last three people on the late the Graveyard shift 0:37:17.640 --> 0:37:19.960 that I love watching them the most to see how 0:37:20.040 --> 0:37:23.279 they adjust to it. Have you, when you were in 0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:27.399 sort of developing your skills or whatnot, have you ever 0:37:27.520 --> 0:37:31.319 had to resort to what they would call the what's 0:37:31.360 --> 0:37:36.400 the syndrome? Uh, like aristocrat syndrome or when you know 0:37:36.560 --> 0:37:40.800 that you've done a bad set and you're just performing 0:37:40.880 --> 0:37:43.560 for your buds, like, oah, I fucked up in always 0:37:43.719 --> 0:37:46.040 did everyone do the aristocrats? It was at another thing 0:37:46.120 --> 0:37:47.120 where I. 0:37:47.200 --> 0:37:50.480 Never did that specifically, but there was I mean, yeah, 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.239 shit would go bad and there was and there would 0:37:53.280 --> 0:37:56.839 be times yeah where you would just kind of throw 0:37:56.880 --> 0:38:00.920 it all out and it was like a yeah, Like, 0:38:01.239 --> 0:38:06.200 I think managing the audience's discomfort is something that is 0:38:06.360 --> 0:38:09.000 a lesson that I learned at a young age, and 0:38:09.080 --> 0:38:13.840 that like, you can carry with you across many different 0:38:14.040 --> 0:38:15.120 avenues of life. 0:38:15.400 --> 0:38:18.520 And I think that that's something that is very valuable 0:38:18.560 --> 0:38:20.880 and I did it, Yeah, I remember doing. But my 0:38:21.040 --> 0:38:22.320 friends could never come watch. 0:38:22.200 --> 0:38:24.319 Me though, because I was a kid and they weren't 0:38:24.320 --> 0:38:27.400 allowed it to the club, so it was always strangers. 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:30.080 But I had times when it's group tablesful adults, we 0:38:30.160 --> 0:38:32.239 get up and leave. It was terrible and they I 0:38:32.360 --> 0:38:34.759 remember performing at the Impro. I remember coming to La 0:38:35.360 --> 0:38:37.360 to audition for the Just for Last Festival when I 0:38:37.440 --> 0:38:42.080 was like fifteen and going to the improv and Jerry 0:38:42.200 --> 0:38:46.640 Seinfeld decided to drop in at the Just for Last 0:38:46.760 --> 0:38:50.440 stand up comedy showcase went on right before me. 0:38:51.719 --> 0:38:54.840 Fucking annihilated when that happened. 0:38:55.000 --> 0:38:57.759 When the big star comes in, it's like, hey, I 0:38:57.840 --> 0:38:59.200 want to practice that thirty. 0:38:59.280 --> 0:39:01.640 Comedy show on a fucking showcase. 0:39:01.800 --> 0:39:03.480 Did you ever get to tell Jerry what he did 0:39:03.520 --> 0:39:03.680 to you? 0:39:03.960 --> 0:39:05.800 Yes? He could not have been more indifferent. 0:39:09.560 --> 0:39:12.120 And then I went up after him, and I literally, 0:39:12.320 --> 0:39:15.160 like to this day, remember standing on the stage and 0:39:15.280 --> 0:39:18.719 it being so quiet. I could hear the electric hum 0:39:18.840 --> 0:39:23.279 of the and I'd been doing stand up for years 0:39:23.320 --> 0:39:25.680 at that point and I had never heard that sound. 0:39:25.840 --> 0:39:28.360 I remember like thinking to myself, like wow, like have 0:39:28.440 --> 0:39:30.280 the speaker's always been making that sound? 0:39:30.400 --> 0:39:32.359 And I just haven't heard it or do These ones 0:39:32.440 --> 0:39:36.680 had like a particularly loud but I just remember hearing 0:39:36.760 --> 0:39:40.279 like I was like, oh that's a new one. Yeah. 0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:40.840 It was brutal. 0:39:41.000 --> 0:39:43.480 So at the time I didn't get into the just 0:39:43.520 --> 0:39:48.600 for last festival, Jerry, Yes, could. 0:39:48.440 --> 0:39:54.279 You explain how you got inside of the I guess 0:39:54.360 --> 0:40:00.480 the mafia of the what I call the app Town mafia. Yeah, 0:40:00.520 --> 0:40:04.279 I mean it was all I I. I was doing 0:40:04.360 --> 0:40:06.560 stand up and I got an agent through stand up 0:40:06.680 --> 0:40:10.360 and I was like sixteen or seventeen until high school 0:40:10.440 --> 0:40:12.680 was like gonna end, and I like was not gonna 0:40:12.680 --> 0:40:13.280 go to college. 0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:15.920 So I was like, I should I need money, so 0:40:16.400 --> 0:40:18.799 I should start trying to audition for things. 0:40:18.880 --> 0:40:22.200 And my plan, if you asked me that point where 0:40:22.239 --> 0:40:23.440 my plan was, I'll be like, oh, I'll moved to 0:40:23.600 --> 0:40:26.000 LA after high school and I'll try to do stand 0:40:26.080 --> 0:40:26.680 up And so. 0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:28.480 You wanted to be a straight up stand up coming, Yeah, 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:28.759 And then. 0:40:28.640 --> 0:40:30.240 I thought maybe I'll get like on like a sitcom 0:40:30.320 --> 0:40:31.800 that was kind of like the only precedent of that 0:40:32.160 --> 0:40:35.240 in that time. That was like the thing that seemed 0:40:35.280 --> 0:40:37.719 the most achievable because it was like Seinfeld was on 0:40:38.120 --> 0:40:40.719 like everybody loves Raymon and Martin like that. Like at 0:40:40.760 --> 0:40:42.520 the time, it seemed like if you were a successful 0:40:42.560 --> 0:40:45.680 stand up, you got a sitcom. And I always liked 0:40:45.800 --> 0:40:49.279 movies more and so that was always something that I 0:40:49.440 --> 0:40:52.760 like wanted, but it wasn't as like it didn't seem 0:40:53.239 --> 0:40:54.960 it seemed like the types of movies I wanted to 0:40:55.000 --> 0:40:57.640 make at that time especially were like very small, independent movies, 0:40:57.680 --> 0:41:00.239 And at that time, Super Bad seemed like it would 0:41:00.239 --> 0:41:02.160 be like like Rushmore, you know what I mean, like 0:41:02.800 --> 0:41:05.440 not in its artfulness, but just in its scope, you know. 0:41:06.239 --> 0:41:10.080 And I think that then I moved so I auditioned 0:41:10.160 --> 0:41:13.040 for Freaking Geeks. Was a second audition I got out 0:41:13.280 --> 0:41:15.719 sent out on and they auditioned kids out of Vancouver, 0:41:16.280 --> 0:41:17.480 like they did international. 0:41:17.800 --> 0:41:19.440 Wait, you all were from Vancouver. 0:41:19.600 --> 0:41:20.799 No, they did international. 0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:23.840 So they auditioned in New York, in Chicago and Boston 0:41:23.920 --> 0:41:26.800 and Toronto and Vancouver, and I like, I went in 0:41:27.200 --> 0:41:30.279 for an audition one morning in Vancouver and and then 0:41:30.320 --> 0:41:30.680 I got it. 0:41:30.760 --> 0:41:32.319 And then I moved to LA and uh. 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:38.560 I watched I watched that show in the first man, 0:41:38.640 --> 0:41:41.040 don't let people. I know people now like to revision it, 0:41:41.160 --> 0:41:44.200 like yo, man, freaking gigs with my ship man. You're like, oh, yeah, 0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:47.400 well but it was then why why don't watch it? 0:41:48.800 --> 0:41:49.000 Well? 0:41:49.120 --> 0:41:53.040 I watched it because during the time of us recording, 0:41:53.719 --> 0:41:56.000 Uh do you want more? Yeah, there was always a 0:41:56.080 --> 0:41:56.759 TV on the break. 0:41:57.000 --> 0:41:57.920 Yeah. So that's how I. 0:41:57.920 --> 0:42:01.759 Remember freaking geeks. That was my favorite. I thought, oh man, 0:42:01.800 --> 0:42:05.440 this is way better than my so called life years Damn. 0:42:05.480 --> 0:42:07.520 I was just thinking about that as he was talking shit, I. 0:42:07.719 --> 0:42:12.560 Get away like, were you excited of the the critical 0:42:12.719 --> 0:42:13.279 claim it got? 0:42:13.360 --> 0:42:13.759 And did you? 0:42:14.800 --> 0:42:18.920 I had no, Like I was like a seventeen year 0:42:18.960 --> 0:42:23.080 old pothead from Vancouver who, like I had no concept 0:42:23.200 --> 0:42:26.040 of any of that shit, Like I remember Pee being 0:42:26.080 --> 0:42:28.439 like you're in a business man, yet I just didn't. 0:42:28.760 --> 0:42:32.040 I think I was. So I was. 0:42:33.000 --> 0:42:37.920 I was really confident and I felt like everything like 0:42:38.000 --> 0:42:40.160 when someone's like yours everyone loves your show, like it 0:42:40.239 --> 0:42:41.680 has one hundred percent good reviews. 0:42:41.680 --> 0:42:43.120 I was like, yeah, it's fucking. 0:42:42.880 --> 0:42:46.279 Great, like like it wasn't like really, it was like, 0:42:46.400 --> 0:42:48.839 of course we're putting out great shit, like there's nothing 0:42:48.920 --> 0:42:52.640 like this on TV, like of course everyone like and 0:42:52.800 --> 0:42:55.319 if anything, that made it more frustrating that no one 0:42:55.480 --> 0:42:58.040 was watching it because like we knew it was good, 0:42:58.400 --> 0:43:00.800 and that's like I look back on and like, I 0:43:00.800 --> 0:43:02.640 didn't even think of the quality of the show when 0:43:02.680 --> 0:43:05.759 I went and did it, Like I it could have 0:43:05.800 --> 0:43:07.879 been the word Like I was just like a job, 0:43:07.960 --> 0:43:09.719 I'll take it. And then I remember getting to la 0:43:09.920 --> 0:43:12.359 and to shoot the pilot and it wasn't even until 0:43:12.400 --> 0:43:15.399 then that I got the full script, like the day 0:43:15.480 --> 0:43:17.560 before we started filming, and then I remember reading it 0:43:17.680 --> 0:43:19.920 and being like, oh, there's like jokes about shrooms in 0:43:20.000 --> 0:43:21.719 here and shit like that. And then we rehearsed for 0:43:21.800 --> 0:43:24.040 one day and they were like, what would you say here? 0:43:24.120 --> 0:43:26.480 And then all of a sudden we were improvising and 0:43:26.560 --> 0:43:29.120 they were letting us add jokes about Hitler and all 0:43:29.200 --> 0:43:31.960 this stuff, and we were like, this is really different. 0:43:32.040 --> 0:43:34.320 And then when we started shooting it, we were like 0:43:34.600 --> 0:43:38.000 again Like the director was from the independent film world, 0:43:38.080 --> 0:43:40.800 Jake Kasden had just made Zero Effect, which was a 0:43:40.920 --> 0:43:44.319 movie I was a big fan of. So it was like, oh, yeah, 0:43:44.400 --> 0:43:48.080 we have like these writers and directors who were like 0:43:48.280 --> 0:43:50.560 doing the exact stuff that I liked. So when it 0:43:50.680 --> 0:43:53.759 turned out great, it was like again I was So 0:43:54.960 --> 0:43:57.320 I was really like spoiled at that time because I 0:43:57.400 --> 0:43:58.640 was just like, yeah, you make something. 0:44:00.280 --> 0:44:03.720 So you together, like, oh, they creator the Larry Sanders 0:44:03.800 --> 0:44:04.880 Show has this new. 0:44:06.000 --> 0:44:07.640 Knew that, but I didn't. 0:44:08.320 --> 0:44:11.720 Again, I didn't realize, I think, how like I didn't 0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.759 realize a how just because you did something good before, 0:44:13.800 --> 0:44:16.480 it doesn't mean you'll keep doing things that everyone appreciates. 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.360 Like I was a fan of the Larry. 0:44:18.200 --> 0:44:20.920 Sanders Show, a huge fan and grew up watching it, 0:44:21.080 --> 0:44:24.960 and but I didn't, like I think when I took 0:44:25.000 --> 0:44:26.600 the when I first got cast on the show, I 0:44:26.600 --> 0:44:28.560 had no idea jud it even I didn't know judge. 0:44:29.560 --> 0:44:30.719 What was I know? 0:44:30.760 --> 0:44:33.000 Judd worked on Larry Sanders Show. There was no IMDb 0:44:33.160 --> 0:44:35.759 at this time, Like there was no way to look 0:44:35.880 --> 0:44:39.920 up you were working with Evan. Yeah, like I had 0:44:40.040 --> 0:44:42.839 no idea the internet. Yeah, there was no like work 0:44:42.920 --> 0:44:44.920 Maybe there's IMDb, but I didn't know how to use it. Yeah, 0:44:44.920 --> 0:44:47.040 there was no like organized way of checking any of 0:44:47.120 --> 0:44:47.439 that shit. 0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:49.480 This is like and did James Franklin didn't even hit 0:44:49.520 --> 0:44:50.319 the soap shit right? 0:44:50.520 --> 0:44:53.040 Like no, it was like no one had done any 0:44:53.480 --> 0:44:56.480 and so yeah it was. But then it started Eric 0:44:56.640 --> 0:44:58.200 as we were shooting, and then they just were like, 0:44:58.239 --> 0:44:59.960 no one's watching this ship and it was on set 0:45:00.000 --> 0:45:02.880 Saturday night at eight or some shit like that against cops. 0:45:03.040 --> 0:45:05.759 I remember Judge like joking, like cops beats us. We're 0:45:05.840 --> 0:45:07.640 fucked and they cops beat us. 0:45:07.840 --> 0:45:14.000 And he was, no, So what are you gunnry about Undeclared? 0:45:15.560 --> 0:45:15.600 No? 0:45:15.840 --> 0:45:18.080 Because again I was did you feel like, okay, well, 0:45:18.280 --> 0:45:19.640 we'll do a better version. 0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:21.239 I was like, oh, this time, we'll do like a 0:45:21.320 --> 0:45:23.200 more commercial version and we kind of work out the 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.879 kinks and like again it was like the exact same 0:45:25.960 --> 0:45:28.320 thing happened where it was like very critically acclaimed and 0:45:28.400 --> 0:45:29.400 then no one watched it. 0:45:30.239 --> 0:45:32.000 But but that, but I was. 0:45:32.360 --> 0:45:34.880 I was thrilled, honestly, like I was a writer and 0:45:34.960 --> 0:45:37.520 an actor on Undeclared. I was eighteen years old, Like 0:45:37.760 --> 0:45:41.000 it was, you know, it was like a very exciting 0:45:41.280 --> 0:45:42.359 thing for me to be doing. 0:45:42.480 --> 0:45:47.359 So, uh, how hard is it living hands and mouth 0:45:47.440 --> 0:45:50.160 in that period? Because I are you, well. 0:45:50.760 --> 0:45:52.239 Feel like has he never had a did you ever 0:45:52.280 --> 0:45:53.400 have a regular job or anything? 0:45:53.400 --> 0:45:57.000 Well? I after Undeclared, I didn't work for like three 0:45:57.560 --> 0:46:00.800 or four years. Basicly, what did you do? I fucking 0:46:01.280 --> 0:46:02.520 spent very little. 0:46:02.360 --> 0:46:06.160 Money, but you still never have to work at piece 0:46:06.160 --> 0:46:08.719 of head or be a server and I would help. 0:46:09.920 --> 0:46:12.800 Judd was very nice and he would get these super 0:46:12.920 --> 0:46:16.320 high priced rewriting jobs and then he would give me 0:46:16.480 --> 0:46:18.719 a little to help him do it. So like I 0:46:18.840 --> 0:46:24.440 helped rewrite Bad Boys Too. As an example, Wait, time out. 0:46:24.840 --> 0:46:28.600 First of all, that its out, yes, so it's like 0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:30.719 a secret thing. We wrote that joke, and that was 0:46:30.760 --> 0:46:32.440 in the trailer where they're singing the song and they 0:46:32.520 --> 0:46:35.040 forget the word they like don't know the words like. 0:46:37.040 --> 0:46:40.839 Oh yeah, yeah and yeah. 0:46:41.000 --> 0:46:42.880 It was like, yeah, we that was one of the 0:46:43.000 --> 0:46:45.640 many things we did so maintenance work. 0:46:45.800 --> 0:46:46.520 So what else did you do? 0:46:47.160 --> 0:46:50.279 Little things here and there? Like uh, one of the 0:46:50.280 --> 0:46:53.040 Big Mama's House movies I helped on for a few days. 0:46:56.920 --> 0:47:00.600 Wait, in this moment, I was I saying this because 0:47:00.600 --> 0:47:02.040 I know my whole family gonna get mad at me. 0:47:02.120 --> 0:47:04.560 But in this moment, are you understanding your white funny man? 0:47:05.680 --> 0:47:08.360 Because you know that you are like you like this 0:47:08.520 --> 0:47:11.640 is a seriously it's a serious question. Like nobody else. 0:47:11.680 --> 0:47:13.839 If you hear the struggles of other comedians and things 0:47:13.920 --> 0:47:16.360 and other colors, women, da da da dah, there is 0:47:16.480 --> 0:47:19.560 never a moment where they haven't had to like serve 0:47:19.719 --> 0:47:21.320 or do something that they didn't want to do. 0:47:21.480 --> 0:47:22.560 But it seems like since you. 0:47:22.600 --> 0:47:26.279 Were fourteen years old, Yeah, you was on it. You 0:47:26.360 --> 0:47:28.439 needed final draft, you had it, you needed the camera, 0:47:28.560 --> 0:47:31.239 you had it. You this is any moment did you 0:47:31.320 --> 0:47:31.759 realize this? 0:47:32.160 --> 0:47:36.319 I was super, Yes, I was. I was very Yeah. 0:47:36.400 --> 0:47:41.320 I was never felt particularly downtrodden. I was very I 0:47:41.400 --> 0:47:43.800 felt lucky. I was very I always felt lucky and 0:47:43.960 --> 0:47:47.920 was very fortunate and like and and got that. 0:47:48.280 --> 0:47:48.480 Yeah. 0:47:48.480 --> 0:47:50.120 I mean there was a time when I was maybe 0:47:50.200 --> 0:47:52.120 gonna like but there was a moment I was like 0:47:52.120 --> 0:47:53.719 I might have to move back to Vancouver because I 0:47:53.840 --> 0:47:55.880 was just running out of money and couldn't afford to 0:47:55.920 --> 0:48:00.879 live in la anymore. And that's when I got hired 0:48:00.920 --> 0:48:03.560 on the Ali g Show. And that like continue that 0:48:03.760 --> 0:48:07.520 like yeah, it was like a great It was like 0:48:07.600 --> 0:48:10.439 a great job to have because like it was even 0:48:10.600 --> 0:48:13.160 it was like it sounded great in a room, Like 0:48:13.520 --> 0:48:15.160 it was like when we went on meetings and we 0:48:15.239 --> 0:48:18.880 were like, oh we got yeah, we got dominated for Emmys. 0:48:18.960 --> 0:48:19.439 That was great. 0:48:19.520 --> 0:48:23.080 Like it was something that like basically I haven't stopped 0:48:23.080 --> 0:48:26.000 working since that. It was like that was like the 0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:27.400 thing that kind of kept me going. 0:48:27.360 --> 0:48:30.640 Because his brand of comedy sasa veryon cornet because he's 0:48:31.160 --> 0:48:34.880 such a rogue, yeah, kind of artsy comedian. How do 0:48:34.960 --> 0:48:36.200 you find his voice? 0:48:36.760 --> 0:48:40.320 It was kind of Uh, it was hard, and I 0:48:40.440 --> 0:48:42.520 think he liked and I think it was good that 0:48:42.600 --> 0:48:45.480 we were so young and malleable at this time when 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:48.640 we were working for him, Like we were like twenty 0:48:48.719 --> 0:48:50.719 two or something like that, and so like he could 0:48:50.840 --> 0:48:54.960 really I think without some of like the kid gloves 0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:57.240 you would use with older people, being. 0:48:57.160 --> 0:48:59.200 Like, here's what you have to do, here's. 0:48:58.960 --> 0:48:59.440 What we do. 0:48:59.680 --> 0:49:04.200 Do exactly fucking this and nothing else. Forget everything, you know, 0:49:04.920 --> 0:49:05.640 just do this. 0:49:05.880 --> 0:49:09.759 So like yeah, and and and he would literally lock 0:49:09.840 --> 0:49:12.120 us in a room and be like write two hundred 0:49:12.200 --> 0:49:16.560 interview questions for me to be interviewing like an environmentalist 0:49:16.680 --> 0:49:18.960 in a tree, like and like, don't come out of 0:49:19.000 --> 0:49:21.000 that room till you've written me two hundred questions. 0:49:22.440 --> 0:49:22.759 Well he did. 0:49:23.040 --> 0:49:25.520 Yeah, we came on for Bruno and then we went 0:49:25.560 --> 0:49:27.000 on the road with him. We went to spring Break, 0:49:27.040 --> 0:49:29.880 We did all the spring Break stuff with Bruno. It 0:49:30.000 --> 0:49:37.080 was insane. He almost got killed. What happens when you 0:49:37.200 --> 0:49:41.359 go to like Daytona beach yeah, it was crazy. What's 0:49:41.400 --> 0:49:43.800 funny is I had to kind of hide because I 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:47.560 was not famous, but I was like one in every hundred. 0:49:47.640 --> 0:49:51.320 People knew me from freaks and geeks, and so I 0:49:51.640 --> 0:49:53.960 was kind of had to like I was like relegated 0:49:54.040 --> 0:49:56.800 to the hotel room because like they were. He was 0:49:56.880 --> 0:49:58.879 just like the chance that zone sees you and puts 0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:01.800 two and two together is like two great. So, like 0:50:01.920 --> 0:50:03.880 we would travel from city to city and me and 0:50:03.960 --> 0:50:06.440 Evan would literally just sit in a hotel room and 0:50:06.480 --> 0:50:08.400 whatever city we were in and like and pray. 0:50:08.239 --> 0:50:08.959 They come back alive. 0:50:09.080 --> 0:50:09.640 Yeah, exactly. 0:50:09.920 --> 0:50:12.000 They would come back and they would show us the 0:50:12.040 --> 0:50:13.640 footage of what they had done that day and we 0:50:13.719 --> 0:50:16.440 would all just laugh hysterically and be amazed that they 0:50:16.520 --> 0:50:18.040 hadn't gotten killed, and like it was. 0:50:19.040 --> 0:50:21.120 It was fun. Yeah, it was great. Wow. 0:50:22.360 --> 0:50:26.680 All right, So I have so many questions about your movies, 0:50:26.719 --> 0:50:28.560 but I'm afraid we'll just get stuck in one of them. 0:50:28.680 --> 0:50:32.319 Yeah, but. 0:50:34.160 --> 0:50:36.440 This is it, I mean yeah, one, yes, well, I 0:50:36.480 --> 0:50:37.040 mean there's. 0:50:36.880 --> 0:50:41.480 So many, but I will say that for you know, 0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:47.719 foty year old Virgin was to me, like, how how 0:50:48.239 --> 0:50:53.040 much input are you given for scripts? Or how open 0:50:53.120 --> 0:50:56.800 is Judd to having you guys adjust the comedy the 0:50:56.880 --> 0:50:59.440 way that it looked. It almost seemed like, oh, this 0:50:59.560 --> 0:51:00.839 got to be on the spot, and he just say 0:51:00.960 --> 0:51:01.919 keep the cameras rolling. 0:51:02.120 --> 0:51:03.640 A lot of it was improvised. 0:51:04.120 --> 0:51:08.040 Yeah, I was, I would say, like, because super Bad 0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:11.279 had been written and no one would make it, and 0:51:11.960 --> 0:51:14.840 same with Pineapple Express, so you was still shopping it actively. 0:51:15.920 --> 0:51:19.680 And me and Evan and my especially because Evan was 0:51:19.719 --> 0:51:22.000 in college at the time and wasn't there all the time. 0:51:22.560 --> 0:51:24.400 Like I was always like, people want to see a 0:51:24.480 --> 0:51:27.400 movie where people talk like this, like more than anything. 0:51:27.600 --> 0:51:31.680 That's what I had a strong feeling of, was like, 0:51:32.160 --> 0:51:35.600 they want a comedy where people where it's conversational and 0:51:35.760 --> 0:51:39.200 not so like plucky and jokey, and it just feels 0:51:39.239 --> 0:51:42.200 like people talking, they're swearing a lot, and and and 0:51:42.640 --> 0:51:45.799 like it's like taking like again because we grew up 0:51:45.840 --> 0:51:47.560 loving pulp fiction and clerks, and we were just like, 0:51:47.680 --> 0:51:51.040 if you can really gear that towards like comedy and 0:51:51.200 --> 0:51:54.359 like in a great way, and and since no one 0:51:54.400 --> 0:51:58.440 would make super Bad, jud Like and me and him 0:51:58.520 --> 0:52:02.320 together just thought that if we could make these the 0:52:02.400 --> 0:52:04.760 guys who work in the store kind of be almost 0:52:04.840 --> 0:52:07.200 like it's almost almost like a weird testing ground for 0:52:07.400 --> 0:52:12.400 like that type of conversational comedy, whereas Corel's character was 0:52:12.440 --> 0:52:13.440 this like sweet. 0:52:13.480 --> 0:52:15.000 Kind of like island. 0:52:15.040 --> 0:52:16.560 In the middle of the movie, we were like, if 0:52:16.600 --> 0:52:18.799 we can make these guys like, why don't we try 0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:22.200 this where we improvise and have it be very conversational 0:52:22.320 --> 0:52:24.400 and you guys can swear a lot and say all 0:52:24.440 --> 0:52:26.760 the sick shit you say to each other that makes 0:52:26.800 --> 0:52:30.719 each other laugh behind the scenes, but we never say 0:52:30.760 --> 0:52:33.120 it on camera because always like that's too much, that's 0:52:33.120 --> 0:52:35.920 too crazy, or people won't like that. But we were like, 0:52:35.960 --> 0:52:39.000 what if we do that on camera, you know? And 0:52:39.280 --> 0:52:42.840 that was really like the first time that any of 0:52:42.960 --> 0:52:46.120 us had done that, I think, like it was they 0:52:46.160 --> 0:52:49.600 had done Anchorman, where it was it was different though, 0:52:49.600 --> 0:52:52.839 because the movie is tonally not real, so like it's 0:52:52.880 --> 0:52:55.280 not they improvised a lot, but it wasn't like actual 0:52:55.440 --> 0:52:58.200 conversations because it's like under this umbrella of like a 0:52:58.280 --> 0:53:01.799 false reality, you know. But this was the first time 0:53:01.840 --> 0:53:04.520 where it was literally like you can just say whatever 0:53:04.920 --> 0:53:07.879 you think you would say in this situation and there's 0:53:08.040 --> 0:53:13.280 no rating, like and we had never played in that environment. 0:53:12.920 --> 0:53:16.320 Before, and it was really the first time where we 0:53:16.400 --> 0:53:18.160 were all like, oh, we can really let it rip. 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:22.759 And I remember the I had improvised that thing about 0:53:22.800 --> 0:53:25.440 going to Tijuana and like seeing a woman fucking a horse, 0:53:25.520 --> 0:53:29.320 and it's like it's like he comes into the or 0:53:29.440 --> 0:53:31.759 he comes it's like Corel comes into work and he 0:53:31.880 --> 0:53:34.560 explained making an egg salad sandwich and he's like, what 0:53:34.600 --> 0:53:35.880 did you do this weekend? I'm like, oh, I went 0:53:35.880 --> 0:53:38.640 to Tijuana. We went to see this woman horse and 0:53:38.760 --> 0:53:40.960 like it was not that cool, like it was kind 0:53:40.960 --> 0:53:44.680 of gross. Uh and and I remember like and it 0:53:44.800 --> 0:53:47.080 was like pretty it was like on the scale of 0:53:47.160 --> 0:53:49.879 like the types of things people were saying in movies. 0:53:49.600 --> 0:53:51.960 At that time, on like the very far end of 0:53:52.040 --> 0:53:54.120 the spectrum, which is that's. 0:53:54.040 --> 0:53:56.200 Why I asked you about the aristocrats exactly. 0:53:58.160 --> 0:54:00.239 Yeah, and so that and we were just making each 0:54:00.239 --> 0:54:03.120 other laugh and I remember before the first screening we 0:54:03.239 --> 0:54:07.120 were like if people like, if that works, then like 0:54:08.000 --> 0:54:11.160 then we're fine. Like then all these instincts we have 0:54:11.480 --> 0:54:14.040 of like what people want might be right. And I 0:54:14.160 --> 0:54:18.200 remember like it was like like on like that moment 0:54:18.360 --> 0:54:20.400 was like a life changing moment in many ways, like 0:54:20.440 --> 0:54:22.840 sitting in the theater when that part came on for 0:54:22.920 --> 0:54:26.000 the first time and seeing the audience just like explode 0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.960 in laughter, and like you could see it was just 0:54:29.120 --> 0:54:32.959 like shocking to them, but all so funny and also 0:54:33.120 --> 0:54:35.120 felt kind of real. And I remember so many people 0:54:35.200 --> 0:54:36.520 come up to me after we came out and be like, 0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:38.520 you remind me so much of a guy I used 0:54:38.520 --> 0:54:40.279 to work with, or you remind me so much of 0:54:40.360 --> 0:54:42.680 this weirdo who was in the back room at this 0:54:43.040 --> 0:54:45.320 place I would go to and like and and and 0:54:45.719 --> 0:54:48.120 you could see that we were kind of like tapping 0:54:48.200 --> 0:54:53.040 into this like relatable form of comedy that people, you know, 0:54:53.200 --> 0:54:54.919 at that time, it was like Dumb and Dumber, which 0:54:54.960 --> 0:54:56.839 I love, like it's one of my favorite movies ever, 0:54:56.920 --> 0:55:03.120 but it is not relatable, natural li stick conversational comedy. 0:55:03.280 --> 0:55:03.440 You know. 0:55:03.760 --> 0:55:09.920 It's huge, crazy gags and very specifically like written in 0:55:10.040 --> 0:55:12.279 staged bits right and very smart. 0:55:12.320 --> 0:55:14.960 Can I just give you credit to for putting an 0:55:15.080 --> 0:55:20.279 actor in their lesser known name Kevin hart Hart, the 0:55:20.440 --> 0:55:22.319 dude Jared. I want to say his name right, Jerry. 0:55:23.320 --> 0:55:25.920 He's funny, the Indian guy who's just stopped everywhere. 0:55:27.000 --> 0:55:27.760 Is he okay? 0:55:28.000 --> 0:55:36.000 He is Okay. The other guy Okay, Jerry's fine. 0:55:36.880 --> 0:55:38.520 One that was working in the store that was kept 0:55:38.560 --> 0:55:39.319 saying nasty ship. 0:55:39.400 --> 0:55:43.000 Yes, about mixed up with the other guy. The other 0:55:43.080 --> 0:55:45.759 guy who still be in jail is in jail. 0:55:46.280 --> 0:55:50.160 Okay, okay, yeah, making sure, making sure Ry's great. 0:55:50.320 --> 0:55:57.279 Yeah, Kevin Hart was great. Attempted jail. 0:56:00.080 --> 0:56:02.799 That happened because murder is bad, and I. 0:56:02.920 --> 0:56:03.960 Do not like murder. 0:56:04.200 --> 0:56:06.160 You know the conversations on the South when you have 0:56:06.280 --> 0:56:08.800 to explain that you're feeling is murderous. 0:56:08.880 --> 0:56:13.800 Back, let me just clarify murders. 0:56:13.440 --> 0:56:16.880 Back Sokay, succeed. 0:56:17.280 --> 0:56:18.200 What I'm succeeding. 0:56:18.320 --> 0:56:21.160 What I want to ask is, when you got the 0:56:21.200 --> 0:56:24.440 pitch for knocked Up? Yes, how is it pitched to 0:56:24.560 --> 0:56:30.759 you so that you wouldn't take it personally? Because the 0:56:30.840 --> 0:56:34.000 thing is because because the underhand tone of what knocked 0:56:34.080 --> 0:56:39.239 Up really is is we're gonna pair this hot girl. 0:56:40.040 --> 0:56:43.360 With like you, I told you, it's something. 0:56:43.520 --> 0:56:47.040 It's a joke. I was, but I appreciate you because 0:56:47.440 --> 0:56:50.160 you I was in on the joke, right, That's the thing. 0:56:50.239 --> 0:56:52.120 How do you not do the person I think and 0:56:52.239 --> 0:56:54.680 what I always I would actually think that like one 0:56:54.760 --> 0:56:56.799 of the first other pieces of advice. A stand up 0:56:56.840 --> 0:56:59.960 comic Gamy, when I was like thirteen, was like, whatever, 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:02.800 what's funny is this stand up comic looked exactly like 0:57:02.920 --> 0:57:04.959 Garth from Wayne's World. Like he was like a super 0:57:05.040 --> 0:57:08.279 skinny dude with long blonde hair and glasses. And he 0:57:08.480 --> 0:57:10.840 was like whatever. He's like, you have to let the 0:57:10.960 --> 0:57:14.879 audience know that you are self aware or they'll be uncomfortable. 0:57:15.000 --> 0:57:17.200 And he's like, so if there's something about you that 0:57:17.400 --> 0:57:21.200 reads very obviously like, don't ignore that thing, Like let 0:57:21.280 --> 0:57:23.840 them know you are more aware of it than they 0:57:23.920 --> 0:57:25.920 could ever imagine. And he was like, He's like, my 0:57:26.000 --> 0:57:28.360 whole opening five minutes is about that I look like Garth. 0:57:28.560 --> 0:57:31.280 Like I fucking get it. And so I was always 0:57:31.360 --> 0:57:35.120 aware that I came across as like a schlubby, kind 0:57:35.200 --> 0:57:38.960 of stonery loser, and I was not. I wasn't in 0:57:39.080 --> 0:57:43.640 any way way self conscious about representing myself like that, because. 0:57:43.280 --> 0:57:46.720 I knew I was not that you got super confidence. 0:57:46.800 --> 0:57:49.000 I was highly productive. 0:57:49.360 --> 0:57:53.960 I could date women like that that were that were 0:57:54.120 --> 0:57:58.240 well out of my league on a physical level. I like, 0:57:58.560 --> 0:58:00.480 I had a job, I would game, I had a 0:58:00.560 --> 0:58:03.040 nice apartment, I had a nice car, like I was 0:58:03.120 --> 0:58:05.520 like at that point, like getting successful, you know, So 0:58:05.920 --> 0:58:08.200 it was not it was funny to me. And I 0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:11.440 remember jud we kept pitching these like crazy movies, mean, 0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:13.000 and we were trying to make Pineapple Express. We're like 0:58:13.040 --> 0:58:15.280 wanting a big action movie, and he was like that, 0:58:15.720 --> 0:58:17.960 Like He's like, you first just have to make something 0:58:18.000 --> 0:58:22.120 that like establishes who you are in the most like normal, 0:58:22.280 --> 0:58:26.360 relatable type of setting. And he just said it conversationally 0:58:26.400 --> 0:58:27.880 one day. It was literally like like like if you 0:58:27.960 --> 0:58:29.840 got a girl pregnant on the first date or something like, 0:58:30.120 --> 0:58:31.960 that's the type of movie we should make. And it 0:58:32.080 --> 0:58:33.320 was one of those things where it was like, oh, 0:58:33.840 --> 0:58:35.760 we actually could. That's actually a really good idea. 0:58:35.800 --> 0:58:36.480 What would that be like? 0:58:36.680 --> 0:58:40.120 Like and him and his wife had got pregnant very 0:58:40.200 --> 0:58:43.560 early on in their relationship, and I think had to 0:58:43.640 --> 0:58:46.040 make some quick decisions as to whether or not they 0:58:46.080 --> 0:58:48.000 were going to kind of stay together and give it 0:58:48.080 --> 0:58:51.880 a go, you know, are just or what the just 0:58:51.960 --> 0:58:53.880 what the dynamics of the relationship were gonna be, you 0:58:53.960 --> 0:58:54.840 know what I mean, I think. 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:56.600 They weren't planning on having a kid at that time. 0:58:57.080 --> 0:59:03.920 From my understanding, yes, exactly, Leslie's great, yeah, very funny, 0:59:03.960 --> 0:59:07.200 and so it was yeah, so it was personal. It 0:59:07.320 --> 0:59:10.120 was personal to me because and I think the way 0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:12.920 that we were able to represent my living situation especially 0:59:13.000 --> 0:59:15.000 was highly personal to me. And all the roommates and 0:59:15.840 --> 0:59:17.480 and all those guys were actually my friends, and I 0:59:17.520 --> 0:59:19.720 actually had lived with almost all of them at one 0:59:19.760 --> 0:59:23.120 point or another, and so like it did seem like 0:59:23.240 --> 0:59:26.120 I really yeah, yeah, I was totally happy with it 0:59:26.200 --> 0:59:28.080 and thought I would be funny with it, you know, 0:59:28.760 --> 0:59:30.080 And there was a thing where I was just I 0:59:30.160 --> 0:59:31.680 remember being like, oh, I can just make this guy 0:59:31.760 --> 0:59:33.080 like worse and worse and worse. 0:59:33.200 --> 0:59:35.640 Like like just dumber and dumber and dumber. 0:59:35.760 --> 0:59:38.240 And it's almost like the bower inappropriate, like the worst 0:59:38.320 --> 0:59:40.440 thing I could say on a date almost is like 0:59:40.520 --> 0:59:44.080 the funnier the whole movie becomes so yeah. 0:59:44.400 --> 0:59:54.439 Wow, Okay, well I mean okay, well, yeah, I'll guess 0:59:54.440 --> 0:59:57.320 I'll ask. Okay, you don't have to, no, no, no, 0:59:57.560 --> 1:00:00.280 it's not that I'm just saying that, is there ever? 1:00:00.400 --> 1:00:00.640 Fear? 1:00:00.720 --> 1:00:05.480 Okay. I go to thirty Rock University and all that entails, 1:00:06.120 --> 1:00:11.080 you know. So I'm in in the iosorum. It's it's 1:00:11.120 --> 1:00:13.600 a university sess and now it's a big giant campus. 1:00:13.520 --> 1:00:16.280 In cathedral to which entertainment is built. 1:00:17.560 --> 1:00:22.520 So when you're how hard is it, in your opinion, 1:00:22.600 --> 1:00:25.080 how hard is it for women to get a seat 1:00:25.160 --> 1:00:25.720 at the table? 1:00:27.760 --> 1:00:31.280 Insanely hard, way harder, And in. 1:00:31.400 --> 1:00:34.320 Light of what's happening now and how comedy sort of 1:00:34.360 --> 1:00:40.720 has to re examine itself and what was cool in 1:00:41.280 --> 1:00:45.800 two thousand and six might get a raised eyebrow, Now, 1:00:46.680 --> 1:00:47.280 how has. 1:00:47.240 --> 1:00:52.120 That eighteen we get a raised eyebrow out? 1:00:53.720 --> 1:00:57.240 Yeah, so how does that affect not not how does 1:00:57.280 --> 1:00:59.080 it affect your world, but how does it affect the 1:00:59.120 --> 1:01:01.800 creative process, the fraternity process? 1:01:01.960 --> 1:01:03.560 Yeah, where's the woman in the in the team? 1:01:04.480 --> 1:01:05.560 We have women on our team? 1:01:08.400 --> 1:01:12.960 But are you more or is it the climate right 1:01:13.040 --> 1:01:15.920 now in Hollywood? Are they super aware of it now where. 1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:16.640 They say they are? 1:01:16.800 --> 1:01:19.480 But I don't think a lot has changed. And if 1:01:19.560 --> 1:01:22.160 you look at the movies that come out, almost all 1:01:22.240 --> 1:01:25.000 of them are made by white dudes, like you know, 1:01:25.240 --> 1:01:31.720 like it's very like not that the actual like decision 1:01:31.880 --> 1:01:34.800 to spend hundreds of millions of dollars in a new 1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:39.120 social direction has not happened. I don't think I think 1:01:39.160 --> 1:01:41.000 people are talking about it. And it's like a topic 1:01:41.040 --> 1:01:43.040 of conversation that's like fun for people to say. And 1:01:43.080 --> 1:01:46.040 I think there's they're like inching towards that. But have 1:01:46.200 --> 1:01:47.960 I seen like, oh, all of a sudden, if you 1:01:48.000 --> 1:01:50.760 look at the slate of every major studio and they're all. 1:01:51.400 --> 1:01:53.600 More equally distributed between men and women. 1:01:54.040 --> 1:02:01.240 No, that's not the case at all women, And I 1:02:01.320 --> 1:02:01.840 think that that. 1:02:02.720 --> 1:02:05.080 But I think for us, I think we're lucky with 1:02:05.200 --> 1:02:09.880 comedy for us because we never like pedaled in that. 1:02:10.160 --> 1:02:12.680 I don't think like we never pedled in something that 1:02:12.760 --> 1:02:16.600 I would have considered to be like, you know, I 1:02:16.680 --> 1:02:20.560 think our comedy like I'm never complaining that, like about 1:02:20.640 --> 1:02:22.960 like people being PC or like we can't say the 1:02:23.000 --> 1:02:25.400 stuff that we want to be able to say. Like 1:02:25.920 --> 1:02:28.920 to me, that is like not an issue, and like 1:02:30.160 --> 1:02:33.600 you're either the type of person that like you want 1:02:33.680 --> 1:02:36.360 your you know, your work reflects who you are no 1:02:36.520 --> 1:02:40.800 matter what, and so if you have your sensibilities trying 1:02:40.880 --> 1:02:42.960 to be in the right place at any given moment, 1:02:43.040 --> 1:02:46.080 then your work will reflect that. And I've found myself 1:02:46.520 --> 1:02:49.200 not really having to defend that much of what I've 1:02:49.280 --> 1:02:51.760 done in the moment that it has come out. I 1:02:51.960 --> 1:02:55.160 acknowledge that again a week later you look back and 1:02:55.200 --> 1:02:59.440 you're like, WHOA, that's age poorly. Sometimes you know, like yeah, 1:02:59.480 --> 1:03:01.720 I think there's jokes and sausage party that like twenty 1:03:01.800 --> 1:03:06.640 four hours after it came out, we're inappropriate. So maybe 1:03:06.680 --> 1:03:09.840 twenty four hours before it came out. But I think that, 1:03:10.600 --> 1:03:14.640 you know, we we try not to be offensive, We 1:03:14.760 --> 1:03:17.600 try not to exclude people in our work. We try 1:03:17.640 --> 1:03:21.000 to be inclusive as possible, and and and we ourselves 1:03:21.440 --> 1:03:23.600 are those types of people. So it isn't this like 1:03:23.720 --> 1:03:26.040 chore to weave that into our work. 1:03:26.960 --> 1:03:28.880 And so lets just know that people now are hyper 1:03:28.960 --> 1:03:34.360 aware that that has to happen or that has to 1:03:34.680 --> 1:03:37.400 be a thing, whereas you know before you don't think like, okay, 1:03:37.760 --> 1:03:39.800 it might be inclusive. Am I in finding this group 1:03:39.880 --> 1:03:40.320 or that group? 1:03:40.440 --> 1:03:43.480 I think that, I think anthing we're trying to be 1:03:43.720 --> 1:03:46.080 aware of for the last few years. I think Neighbors 1:03:46.120 --> 1:03:50.320 is the first movie that we really made really trying 1:03:50.400 --> 1:03:56.800 to go into it acknowledging that traditionally, especially that type 1:03:56.840 --> 1:03:59.960 of relationship that mean rose like a husband wife, really 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:02.720 relationship in a movie is like always done a certain way, 1:04:02.840 --> 1:04:04.800 and we had to not do that and like it's 1:04:04.840 --> 1:04:06.560 always based on the fact that they hate each other 1:04:06.920 --> 1:04:08.400 and that they're not happy, and that there's all this 1:04:08.480 --> 1:04:11.240 conflict in their relationship and that she's fucking lame most 1:04:11.280 --> 1:04:13.520 of the time and that like he's like the carefree, 1:04:13.560 --> 1:04:17.880 fun one and she's yeah, and like so that was 1:04:18.040 --> 1:04:20.760 I think the and it was before all this, you know, 1:04:21.280 --> 1:04:24.400 all the current you know, kind of revelations that are happening. 1:04:24.520 --> 1:04:26.840 But even then we were like, just how do we 1:04:27.080 --> 1:04:29.880 not do this in a lame way, you know? And 1:04:30.000 --> 1:04:32.680 how do we And also like, we want the actors 1:04:32.720 --> 1:04:35.840 in the movie to be proud and happy with their work. 1:04:35.880 --> 1:04:37.960 And I think as someone who is both an actor 1:04:38.040 --> 1:04:40.120 and a writer and a director and a producer, like 1:04:40.640 --> 1:04:44.120 I I understand what all those jobs entail, and I 1:04:44.200 --> 1:04:46.560 understand what it takes to make all the people doing 1:04:46.640 --> 1:04:49.840 those jobs feel like they're really doing something that they 1:04:49.880 --> 1:04:52.880 can be proud of and happy with. And that's something 1:04:52.960 --> 1:04:55.160 that was just started to become very important when I 1:04:55.240 --> 1:04:58.040 started to realize, like, oh, like if we cast Rose 1:04:58.040 --> 1:05:00.000 Burn in this role, we have to make it good 1:05:00.520 --> 1:05:02.960 and funny, and we have to make her excited to 1:05:03.040 --> 1:05:05.160 come into work every day, and we have to make 1:05:05.200 --> 1:05:06.560 it that when she leaves work at the end of 1:05:06.600 --> 1:05:09.120 the day, she really felt like she was as funny 1:05:09.160 --> 1:05:11.280 as anyone else and given the opportunity to be as 1:05:11.280 --> 1:05:13.560 funny as anyone else, not like she was told, like 1:05:13.880 --> 1:05:15.920 you tell us to shut up as we say funny 1:05:15.960 --> 1:05:17.520 shit over here, you know what I mean? 1:05:17.960 --> 1:05:20.760 How does that work? Okay? So how does that work? 1:05:20.880 --> 1:05:23.720 Like break it down like in third grade? Yeah, all right, 1:05:23.920 --> 1:05:28.520 So if you're heading a project, yeah, and you have 1:05:28.640 --> 1:05:31.720 to write for a specific character that you might not 1:05:32.720 --> 1:05:34.720 really have put a lot of effort or you know, 1:05:34.960 --> 1:05:37.320 like what's their background? And first of all, when you 1:05:37.560 --> 1:05:41.200 write for a character or write for a movie, does 1:05:41.280 --> 1:05:44.280 each character have to have their own bio in your mind? 1:05:44.480 --> 1:05:48.560 Like to some degree, I think like backstory, Yeah, I 1:05:48.600 --> 1:05:51.080 think to some degree. I think it's it depends on 1:05:51.240 --> 1:05:54.520 how in like what's funny is like in this is 1:05:54.560 --> 1:05:58.640 the end? Like none of us really have any backstory, Like. 1:05:59.000 --> 1:06:01.440 We're kind of just who you assume we are and you. 1:06:01.560 --> 1:06:05.640 Slowly and the emotional conflicts are very of the moment. 1:06:05.840 --> 1:06:09.440 It's based on you know, you're seeing it play out 1:06:09.520 --> 1:06:13.400 in real time basically, so, but in general, yes, like 1:06:13.520 --> 1:06:16.760 some sense of backstory is is helpful and the more 1:06:16.840 --> 1:06:19.440 you can think of, the more it's probably good. But 1:06:19.880 --> 1:06:23.520 for I think for something like Neighbors, the conversations were 1:06:23.640 --> 1:06:26.200 literally like, how do we create a plot and a 1:06:26.280 --> 1:06:30.160 flow of events where that isn't contingent on these two 1:06:30.280 --> 1:06:33.920 characters having conflict with one another and instead is contingent 1:06:34.000 --> 1:06:37.520 on these two characters really being on the same team 1:06:37.560 --> 1:06:42.200 as one another, And right away that allowed both characters 1:06:42.280 --> 1:06:45.520 to be outrageous and silly and stupid, and neither one 1:06:45.680 --> 1:06:48.040 was trying to control the other. If anything, they were 1:06:48.160 --> 1:06:51.680 always like encouraging the other to do stupidor and stupider 1:06:51.800 --> 1:06:56.480 shit kind of. And so it's more understanding the dynamics 1:06:57.160 --> 1:07:00.320 going in and what the result that will do. So 1:07:00.400 --> 1:07:01.880 it's like, if we go into the movie with this 1:07:02.040 --> 1:07:04.160 type of dynamic, the result will be this, And if 1:07:04.160 --> 1:07:05.680 we go and do with this type dnamic, the result 1:07:05.720 --> 1:07:08.680 will be this. And so that's something we were aware of, 1:07:08.880 --> 1:07:10.280 is like, if we want the result to be this, 1:07:10.880 --> 1:07:13.480 the dynamic has to be very specific going into it, 1:07:13.640 --> 1:07:15.680 you know, And that that's what we tried to do. 1:07:15.880 --> 1:07:18.720 So kind of a three part question. Yeah, all right, 1:07:20.800 --> 1:07:27.920 now in your career. What is your preference. Would you 1:07:28.400 --> 1:07:35.120 rather lean towards directing a project or writing a project 1:07:35.680 --> 1:07:40.120 to give to someone else to direct, or what I 1:07:40.120 --> 1:07:44.760 would just say, blind job, as in doing a project 1:07:44.840 --> 1:07:49.560 that you neither had no directing or no hand in 1:07:49.880 --> 1:07:50.320 writing it. 1:07:51.720 --> 1:07:55.919 I do that less and less, Like I don't act 1:07:56.040 --> 1:07:59.680 in a lot of other people's movies. I don't get 1:07:59.680 --> 1:08:05.600 asked a lot of other people's movies. But vehicles, Yeah, yes. 1:08:05.520 --> 1:08:08.840 Exactly, But yeah, so it happens, and I do do it. 1:08:09.040 --> 1:08:12.360 Sometimes I think what I'm what I really enjoy is 1:08:12.440 --> 1:08:15.360 writing something with the hopes that I will direct it 1:08:15.520 --> 1:08:17.120 and act in it, which has happened. 1:08:17.240 --> 1:08:18.559 You want to wear all three hats? 1:08:18.880 --> 1:08:20.559 Yeah? Is that a nightmare? 1:08:20.880 --> 1:08:24.120 No, it's it's almost at a weird thing We've also 1:08:24.240 --> 1:08:26.400 found is, in some ways, the more control we have 1:08:26.560 --> 1:08:29.240 over something and the more jobs we are feeling, the 1:08:29.400 --> 1:08:32.400 less stressful it ultimately is because most of our stress 1:08:32.479 --> 1:08:34.519 comes from fear that other people are going to fuck 1:08:34.520 --> 1:08:36.640 our shit up, and so as long as we are 1:08:36.760 --> 1:08:40.840 controlling it, I'm not that worried. I'm more worried is 1:08:40.920 --> 1:08:42.240 the director going to ruin this thing? 1:08:42.479 --> 1:08:45.719 So that leads to this leads to what have you learned? 1:08:45.760 --> 1:08:49.760 What have you what have you learned about? Actually I 1:08:49.800 --> 1:08:52.400 want to do too, what have you learned about? Green Hornet? 1:08:52.840 --> 1:08:55.840 And the Simpsons? Which I think for comedy writer is 1:08:55.920 --> 1:09:00.320 sort of like this this honor of Wow, I'm I'm 1:09:01.200 --> 1:09:04.120 doing this, I'm writing controlling a Simpsons episode. Yeah, So 1:09:04.320 --> 1:09:07.600 what lessons have you learned in those two instances that 1:09:08.080 --> 1:09:12.720 you would have changed now or made you wiser? Yeah? 1:09:12.760 --> 1:09:16.320 I mean green Hornet was and I'm not a no 1:09:16.360 --> 1:09:19.640 no no iconic hid no. Yeah, it's not really Like 1:09:20.520 --> 1:09:23.080 I think a few things when I look back at that. 1:09:24.680 --> 1:09:28.760 One is I really overestimated, like our control at that 1:09:28.960 --> 1:09:31.760 point in our careers. Like I think that at that 1:09:32.000 --> 1:09:34.560 point we had kind of always been able to do 1:09:34.600 --> 1:09:38.960 whatever we wanted, you know, And I didn't predict how 1:09:39.240 --> 1:09:42.280 much a bigger budget, like, but all the movies we'd 1:09:42.280 --> 1:09:44.240 made at that point were like twenty thirty million dollars 1:09:44.280 --> 1:09:46.439 in Green Hornet was like one hundred and twenty million dollars, 1:09:46.479 --> 1:09:49.719 And I didn't quite predict what that hundred million dollars 1:09:49.760 --> 1:09:53.360 would do to the process and how before I would 1:09:53.479 --> 1:09:55.840 we literally wouldn't talk to the studio ever all of 1:09:55.880 --> 1:09:57.519 a sudden, we were having meetings where we go through 1:09:57.640 --> 1:10:00.640 like every page of the script basically and how like 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:05.640 destructive that was to the process and how Yeah, and 1:10:05.760 --> 1:10:08.320 like the biggest the biggest thing was was like we 1:10:08.439 --> 1:10:10.920 had an idea going into it that was slowly like 1:10:11.040 --> 1:10:15.840 completely you know, deconstructed and built into something else. 1:10:15.880 --> 1:10:18.320 And it's one of those things that happened so slowly that. 1:10:18.560 --> 1:10:21.080 Like so they took your product, yeah, and then said, well, 1:10:21.120 --> 1:10:22.320 we need to change this to make. 1:10:22.240 --> 1:10:24.040 This the exactly what if we did this, Oh, we 1:10:24.120 --> 1:10:26.240 need a big actor for this role and went about 1:10:26.280 --> 1:10:27.600 this and we need this and like but. 1:10:27.600 --> 1:10:30.479 Then with Gandri directing, Yeah, whom I thought. 1:10:30.560 --> 1:10:33.080 Would be good, I think what he and I've seen 1:10:33.160 --> 1:10:34.960 him since then, Like I think what he didn't predict 1:10:35.040 --> 1:10:38.960 also was the scope of it and how And that's 1:10:39.000 --> 1:10:41.680 what because I think with artists and you probably can 1:10:41.760 --> 1:10:43.720 relate to this, Like I think the more you do 1:10:43.960 --> 1:10:47.200 your craft or whatever, the more you realize it's not 1:10:47.520 --> 1:10:49.760 only what you are doing, but it is how you 1:10:49.880 --> 1:10:52.360 were doing it. Like, if you're a painter, you not 1:10:52.520 --> 1:10:54.439 only want to choose what to paint, you want to 1:10:54.520 --> 1:10:56.280 choose what paint you use and you want to make 1:10:56.320 --> 1:10:58.360 your own canvas maybe, and you want to choose where 1:10:58.479 --> 1:10:59.880 you painted and all the. 1:11:00.320 --> 1:11:01.280 Stuff, you know what I mean. 1:11:02.160 --> 1:11:05.760 But with film it's sometimes that gets wrestled away from you, 1:11:05.800 --> 1:11:07.920 where it's like, here's the shot I want and here's 1:11:07.960 --> 1:11:10.080 how I think we should do it, and they'll be like, Nope, 1:11:10.120 --> 1:11:12.600 too expensive, here's how you're gonna do it, and and that, 1:11:13.560 --> 1:11:15.840 and that ruins the process, especially when you have a 1:11:15.920 --> 1:11:18.200 director like Gondry. And what I realized, I think what 1:11:18.320 --> 1:11:21.280 he realized is like his whole magic is not only 1:11:21.400 --> 1:11:24.160 in what he's doing, it's how he's doing it right. 1:11:24.200 --> 1:11:30.960 It's the materials used, literally, and that did not always 1:11:31.040 --> 1:11:35.680 apply to this scope of filmmaking basically, and uh and 1:11:35.840 --> 1:11:40.759 it was just like uh, an inorganic combination of elements. 1:11:40.840 --> 1:11:42.880 And then there was a point I think where you're 1:11:42.960 --> 1:11:45.599 just kind of like, this seems like it's going poorly. 1:11:45.760 --> 1:11:47.640 I slept terribly throughout the whole thing. 1:11:47.680 --> 1:11:50.960 You felt you felt even during the process, like this 1:11:51.120 --> 1:11:52.840 might not get out good for sure. 1:11:52.960 --> 1:11:55.120 It was like because it was rocky for like the 1:11:55.320 --> 1:11:57.000 year leading up to it. And there was a point 1:11:57.040 --> 1:11:57.439 and this was. 1:11:57.439 --> 1:12:00.120 Also something I would probably do differently now, Like we 1:12:00.200 --> 1:12:02.120 had just spent years working on it, and there's a 1:12:02.200 --> 1:12:05.280 moment where you're like do we stop or just keep going? 1:12:05.680 --> 1:12:09.600 Cause like after years it was it felt weird to 1:12:09.880 --> 1:12:12.400 just stop anywhere. It was just like, I think we 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:15.439 just have to see this through, like and and that 1:12:15.840 --> 1:12:18.320 is something that I probably wouldn't do now. Honestly, I 1:12:18.360 --> 1:12:20.120 think after that experience, I would just be. 1:12:20.240 --> 1:12:21.360 Like, let's just pull the plug. 1:12:21.439 --> 1:12:23.360 And maybe we all wasted three years, but maybe we 1:12:23.400 --> 1:12:25.000 all learned a lot in that three years and have 1:12:25.120 --> 1:12:28.240 some good experiences. But I think like that's something at 1:12:28.280 --> 1:12:30.960 the time that I wasn't prepared to do, which was 1:12:31.080 --> 1:12:33.160 just say like, you know what, like, let's not fucking 1:12:33.320 --> 1:12:34.080 do this, you know. 1:12:34.640 --> 1:12:38.439 So my parallel question to you is, Okay, now, as 1:12:38.479 --> 1:12:40.240 a person that's been doing what I've been doing at 1:12:40.320 --> 1:12:46.439 least what I'm known for twenty five plus years, you know, 1:12:46.520 --> 1:12:48.920 we kind of had this discussion like are we sabotaging 1:12:48.960 --> 1:12:53.559 ourselves but not like wanting to go to bigger houses. Yeah, 1:12:53.840 --> 1:12:56.840 Like we're now in the place where it's like, hey, 1:12:57.040 --> 1:12:59.040 you guys, do know that we could book a night 1:12:59.080 --> 1:13:01.240 at blah blah blah if you guys have the album 1:13:01.240 --> 1:13:04.120 in time whatever, And my immediate thing was fear, like, no, 1:13:04.600 --> 1:13:07.080 I don't want to play you know, seventeen thousand, da 1:13:07.160 --> 1:13:10.479 da da, because I feel like my zone has always 1:13:10.600 --> 1:13:12.240 been in smaller theaters. 1:13:12.320 --> 1:13:13.400 Yeah, so for you. 1:13:15.160 --> 1:13:18.560 Is is a nine figure budget sort of like a 1:13:19.080 --> 1:13:26.960 dragnet Horns. It's like, like, would you attempt to really 1:13:27.040 --> 1:13:30.479 go big or do you feel that you know when 1:13:30.520 --> 1:13:32.200 you do lower budget stuff? 1:13:33.200 --> 1:13:37.360 Then I think now in order, we're writing a movie 1:13:37.439 --> 1:13:40.760 now that would be expensive, like a pretty expensive movie, 1:13:41.080 --> 1:13:42.000 not quite Green Heart. 1:13:41.840 --> 1:13:44.080 But I mean like a popcorn film, like yes, but 1:13:44.240 --> 1:13:45.960 like a Summer of twenty twenty one. 1:13:46.160 --> 1:13:48.040 Yeah, but like, but we're really trying to make it 1:13:48.160 --> 1:13:50.719 have all the stuff that we like out of movies, 1:13:50.800 --> 1:13:54.439 but we're trying to make like it's a more it's 1:13:54.640 --> 1:13:57.960 still like an R rated like action comedy basically, but 1:13:59.400 --> 1:14:03.559 we're the types of movies that are in theaters have changed, 1:14:03.680 --> 1:14:05.560 and I think that's something that we're also aware of, 1:14:05.720 --> 1:14:10.360 is we like a lot of what are It's interesting, 1:14:10.439 --> 1:14:14.599 like we work backwards to some degree from like audience reaction, 1:14:15.200 --> 1:14:18.080 and we go to movies and we sit in theaters 1:14:18.120 --> 1:14:21.960 and you know what makes people cheer, and what makes 1:14:22.000 --> 1:14:25.240 people laugh and what makes people shocked, and what makes 1:14:25.439 --> 1:14:29.960 people scared, and that changes over the course of years, 1:14:30.080 --> 1:14:34.599 you know, like the things. You know, there's some movies 1:14:34.680 --> 1:14:36.479 that have come out that ten years ago got a 1:14:36.520 --> 1:14:38.960 certain reaction in theaters, and that same thing would not 1:14:39.080 --> 1:14:42.960 seem very exciting by today's standards, that shocking by today's standards. 1:14:43.240 --> 1:14:47.200 And so we are trying to evolve. We instinctually must 1:14:47.280 --> 1:14:52.160 evolve with the climate. And we like making movies for theaters, 1:14:52.200 --> 1:14:55.320 and we creatively think backwards a lot from what would 1:14:55.360 --> 1:14:58.600 make a theater full of people have like this experience, 1:14:58.880 --> 1:15:01.000 Like what would make a beater ful of people be 1:15:02.000 --> 1:15:05.280 on edge and then excited and then laughing and then 1:15:05.439 --> 1:15:09.400 sad and and and in or. But the theater part 1:15:09.680 --> 1:15:12.800 is the tricky part, because a lot of movies like 1:15:12.880 --> 1:15:15.080 Super Bad today, for example, probably wouldn't be in theaters. 1:15:15.080 --> 1:15:16.320 It be hard to get it in theaters, you know 1:15:16.360 --> 1:15:18.479 what I mean. Knocked Up even would more likely be 1:15:18.560 --> 1:15:21.880 a Netflix movie today. It's just people talking in rooms, 1:15:22.360 --> 1:15:26.320 like there's no you know, there's no big action in it, 1:15:26.439 --> 1:15:30.000 there's no like it's literally people sitting and talking for 1:15:30.080 --> 1:15:32.960 two hours you know, like we go to. 1:15:33.000 --> 1:15:36.080 Circus organically, it wouldn't happen. But I mean, you gotta 1:15:36.080 --> 1:15:40.280 admit that you're coming from the canon of the Uptown Mafia. Yeah, 1:15:40.400 --> 1:15:43.960 so even by six degrees of separation, like you personally 1:15:43.960 --> 1:15:47.320 would have to you would I would think you'd have 1:15:47.400 --> 1:15:51.439 to release eight bona fide below ten rotten to me 1:15:53.280 --> 1:15:56.160 before I'm like, nah, I ain't seen Seth Morgan. 1:15:56.280 --> 1:15:57.960 You know, not all horror movies do well. 1:15:58.120 --> 1:16:00.200 I mean, you know, like but even man, I'm I'm 1:16:00.240 --> 1:16:03.439 aware of it, it's still yeah, there's still some thing 1:16:03.479 --> 1:16:04.760 where it's like, oh, you're in it. 1:16:05.000 --> 1:16:06.680 It might be good. 1:16:06.760 --> 1:16:09.560 Yeah, you know, it's out there, but it's still like 1:16:10.720 --> 1:16:13.519 it's harder to get movies in theaters and it's harder 1:16:13.560 --> 1:16:16.639 to compete for the cultural attention like that, I think, 1:16:16.720 --> 1:16:19.680 and that to us is very important also is we 1:16:19.960 --> 1:16:22.120 like it when we make We've seen that in the past. 1:16:22.160 --> 1:16:24.679 We've made movies that like work their way into culture 1:16:24.720 --> 1:16:28.439 and they're referenced in rap songs and in other movies 1:16:28.560 --> 1:16:31.320 and on TV shows, and we like that, like we 1:16:31.720 --> 1:16:33.760 And that's not always a one to one thing with 1:16:34.000 --> 1:16:37.599 like success, it's just you know, It's something that only 1:16:37.640 --> 1:16:39.960 happens though, really with movies that are in theaters, like 1:16:41.040 --> 1:16:44.280 movies on Netflix, it's are just streaming movies. It's much 1:16:44.320 --> 1:16:46.519 harder for them to capture a piece of the culture. 1:16:46.680 --> 1:16:49.000 And a movie like Mid Nineties, which was seen probably 1:16:49.080 --> 1:16:51.439 by one iota the amount of people that sees the 1:16:51.479 --> 1:16:55.479 average Netflix movie, capture the cultural attention in a way 1:16:55.560 --> 1:16:58.160 that very few Netflix movies do because it was in 1:16:58.280 --> 1:17:00.360 theaters and when people saw it, they turn their phone 1:17:00.360 --> 1:17:02.240 off for two hours and they sat in a dark 1:17:02.320 --> 1:17:03.480 room and they actually. 1:17:03.400 --> 1:17:06.240 Watch it, and you don't do that with Netflix movies. 1:17:06.560 --> 1:17:09.760 And I think that is going to become when I 1:17:09.920 --> 1:17:12.320 look at why I want movies and theaters. 1:17:12.040 --> 1:17:14.120 That is it like, But that's not all the way true. 1:17:14.160 --> 1:17:15.920 Those stuff I was gonna tell you, Like some certain 1:17:15.960 --> 1:17:18.559 movies command you to turn off the lights, watch watched, 1:17:18.680 --> 1:17:20.160 like when The Irishman was one of those. 1:17:20.200 --> 1:17:22.919 This season, Dolomite was one of those seasons. It just depends. 1:17:22.960 --> 1:17:23.200 I think. 1:17:23.240 --> 1:17:26.360 First, some people they choose to watch Every Friend's just 1:17:26.479 --> 1:17:28.000 gonna have Nero Patino. 1:17:28.840 --> 1:17:31.320 It's the same thing with dol But there are stranger things. 1:17:31.160 --> 1:17:33.559 And there's a million people watching the Irishman like as 1:17:33.600 --> 1:17:36.320 they're on Twitter. Yes, I mean, and if it's in 1:17:36.400 --> 1:17:38.439 the theater, you don't even have to option, like you 1:17:38.680 --> 1:17:39.400 have to watch it. 1:17:39.439 --> 1:17:41.320 And I think I saw it in the theater me too. 1:17:41.320 --> 1:17:43.880 I didn't want to watch me too Netflix, And I 1:17:44.040 --> 1:17:44.360 love it. 1:17:44.720 --> 1:17:46.439 And I think when you put a movie in the theater, 1:17:46.520 --> 1:17:50.599 you're telling culturally, you were saying, like, this is worth 1:17:50.680 --> 1:17:53.840 you putting your phone in your pocket for two hours, like, 1:17:54.520 --> 1:17:58.200 and you're asking people to do that, and that asks 1:17:58.240 --> 1:18:00.680 that it is a big ask. And I think that 1:18:00.960 --> 1:18:03.439 to that end, that's why we're writing a very expensive 1:18:03.840 --> 1:18:04.679 big fund. 1:18:06.160 --> 1:18:06.240 Us. 1:18:06.680 --> 1:18:09.599 We understand what we're asking is not a light ask. 1:18:09.720 --> 1:18:13.439 We're asking you to give up your timon courtesy, and 1:18:14.640 --> 1:18:16.439 in order to do that, we have to repay you 1:18:16.560 --> 1:18:18.280 with something that is worthy of it. 1:18:18.400 --> 1:18:20.599 So can I ask apatop mafia question? 1:18:20.760 --> 1:18:22.679 And for that reason, I'm gonna go back to something 1:18:22.720 --> 1:18:24.080 that I wanted to ask you guys when y'all were 1:18:24.080 --> 1:18:26.679 having the back and forth. Do y'all ever consider because 1:18:26.920 --> 1:18:29.240 as a woman of color, being a fan of what 1:18:29.400 --> 1:18:31.840 you guys do, I love it wouldn't change it. Blah 1:18:31.840 --> 1:18:32.320 blah blah. 1:18:32.439 --> 1:18:34.360 However, time to change it, and not for nothing. 1:18:34.400 --> 1:18:37.400 I would be curious to see how a woman of 1:18:37.439 --> 1:18:39.519 color would be written to some of these situations, right, 1:18:39.520 --> 1:18:41.599 because when you look at the majority of the movies 1:18:41.640 --> 1:18:44.000 that you guys do, like you said, I know, you 1:18:44.120 --> 1:18:46.920 introduced the rose Burn situation, but not really so have 1:18:47.040 --> 1:18:51.400 y'all started considering maybe, yes, maybe the next thing. 1:18:51.400 --> 1:18:52.840 Maybe I don't know yet, but you're working on. 1:18:52.960 --> 1:18:55.880 Something, yes, very much. I mean, it is. It is 1:18:55.960 --> 1:18:58.240 a prevalent topic of conversation, but not on purpose. 1:18:58.280 --> 1:18:59.519 I don't want y'all to do it just because oh 1:18:59.560 --> 1:19:01.479 my god, everybody's demanding that we have a woman and 1:19:01.520 --> 1:19:02.640 then we have to have a woman of color, but 1:19:02.720 --> 1:19:04.920 just because you see that, hey wait a minute, that 1:19:04.960 --> 1:19:07.640 would be funny to get that perspective in this storyline, 1:19:09.240 --> 1:19:09.600 and like. 1:19:10.400 --> 1:19:13.000 Yeah, I mean it's something that Yeah, I mean, the 1:19:13.080 --> 1:19:16.400 more perspectives and the more different people you have working 1:19:16.439 --> 1:19:18.840 on your material, the better it all is. 1:19:19.280 --> 1:19:21.720 Yeah. I mean, we produce the show Black Monday with 1:19:21.800 --> 1:19:22.479 don Cheatle and. 1:19:22.479 --> 1:19:23.800 Regina and. 1:19:26.640 --> 1:19:29.160 It's great and The Preacher Yeah, and we've just seen 1:19:29.200 --> 1:19:30.960 and and it is and Preacher exactly. We've seen. 1:19:31.000 --> 1:19:34.120 It's very rewarding and and and and it and people 1:19:34.240 --> 1:19:37.360 get great. You know, it's the more representation the better. 1:19:37.360 --> 1:19:39.400 I would never argue otherwise, but I want to see 1:19:39.439 --> 1:19:40.120 you like I got. 1:19:40.160 --> 1:19:41.880 I love the daun Chet in the Regina Hall, but 1:19:41.960 --> 1:19:43.320 I was like, man, I want to see. 1:19:43.240 --> 1:19:43.800 That'd be great. 1:19:44.160 --> 1:19:50.320 I'm in Okay, So in the hindsight, the like I 1:19:50.479 --> 1:19:53.920 was paying attention to it, but I don't recall. I 1:19:53.960 --> 1:19:59.040 remember the email fallouts with Sony. The interview would be interview, 1:19:59.520 --> 1:20:01.320 Yeah did was it worth it? 1:20:02.960 --> 1:20:03.080 Uh? 1:20:03.720 --> 1:20:06.760 Yeah? Because it was crazy and like and was. 1:20:10.439 --> 1:20:13.439 Not to us like other people, I mean talking about sexism. 1:20:13.600 --> 1:20:16.240 Like the only real person to be horribly damaged by 1:20:16.280 --> 1:20:18.639 it was Amy Pascal, her. 1:20:18.720 --> 1:20:22.800 Boss Michael Linton. He wasn't damaged, but but she was 1:20:23.000 --> 1:20:23.919 terribly damaged. 1:20:24.320 --> 1:20:27.439 Wait just collect me if I'm wrong. The the fallout, 1:20:27.560 --> 1:20:30.920 the fallout with the damn with the interview was if 1:20:30.920 --> 1:20:34.040 you guys released this, we'll hack into your emails. 1:20:34.200 --> 1:20:38.000 And then they eventually they had her. They had already 1:20:38.040 --> 1:20:40.880 hacked into Sony and they eventually threatened to like bomb 1:20:40.960 --> 1:20:44.120 movie theaters that played the movie basically, and that's why 1:20:44.160 --> 1:20:44.479 they pulled. 1:20:45.439 --> 1:20:49.759 Okay, so it was released stream or was it Google 1:20:49.960 --> 1:20:53.200 Plays I've seen it. I just forgot where Google released it. 1:20:53.280 --> 1:20:56.360 And then Netflix released it all within like, uh, Google 1:20:56.439 --> 1:20:58.000 released it. Actually the date was supposed to come out 1:20:58.000 --> 1:21:01.000 in theaters, and the Netflix released did two weeks later. 1:21:02.120 --> 1:21:04.080 Ah okay, And. 1:21:05.840 --> 1:21:09.120 Again, was it was it worth it? It was? 1:21:10.120 --> 1:21:15.160 I mean it was like it was a really interesting exercise, 1:21:15.320 --> 1:21:21.160 Like I don't the result of which is still fascinating, 1:21:21.200 --> 1:21:23.080 And I don't even when you say is it worth it? 1:21:23.160 --> 1:21:25.680 I don't even I'm not even sure anyone knows what 1:21:25.840 --> 1:21:28.679 the fuck actually happened. Like there was a big article 1:21:28.720 --> 1:21:30.640 in the Hollywood Reporter the other day that was like 1:21:30.720 --> 1:21:31.960 what really happened in the sonya ha? 1:21:32.040 --> 1:21:34.439 Can you read the article? And you're just like, there's no, 1:21:34.640 --> 1:21:37.519 I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened. 1:21:37.840 --> 1:21:40.880 People don't. They're not sure North Korea did it. They don't. 1:21:41.040 --> 1:21:44.320 Like no, people people think they did. 1:21:44.960 --> 1:21:49.160 So like it's hard to it's hard to retrospectively gain 1:21:49.320 --> 1:21:52.639 a lot of insight from something where you honestly aren't 1:21:52.640 --> 1:21:53.200 even sure what. 1:21:53.280 --> 1:21:54.080 The fuck happened. 1:21:54.439 --> 1:21:58.519 Like as a movie, Honestly, to me, the most the 1:21:58.600 --> 1:22:01.640 biggest bummer is that the movie pretty shitty reviews and 1:22:01.840 --> 1:22:03.800 that doesn't happen to us that often, and that that 1:22:03.960 --> 1:22:07.320 fed me out, Like honestly, yeah, it was like for us, 1:22:07.479 --> 1:22:10.240 like pretty bad. And so that to me was the 1:22:10.320 --> 1:22:12.240 thing that if I look back and could change something, 1:22:12.240 --> 1:22:14.200 I'd be like, Oh, I wish the second act had 1:22:14.280 --> 1:22:16.000 like a better set piece in it, and I wish 1:22:16.400 --> 1:22:19.040 like we rounded out the third act more emotionally. But 1:22:19.400 --> 1:22:21.519 I but like because that was the stuff that was 1:22:21.600 --> 1:22:23.479 in my control, you know what I mean, Like the 1:22:23.640 --> 1:22:26.040 actual product, the film was the thing we were in 1:22:26.160 --> 1:22:29.040 control of. And what I'm yeah, what I don't love 1:22:29.120 --> 1:22:31.280 is that it just wasn't received as well as movies. 1:22:32.439 --> 1:22:34.360 This just hit me, and I know we're gonna wind 1:22:34.439 --> 1:22:37.920 up pretty soon, but uh, it just hit me that 1:22:38.160 --> 1:22:44.400 you're one of the cameos in one of Yauk's last pieces. Yes, uh, 1:22:44.800 --> 1:22:46.160 make some No, I'm about to call it fight for 1:22:46.240 --> 1:22:46.680 You right too. 1:22:46.840 --> 1:22:49.960 Yeah, make video. 1:22:50.439 --> 1:22:52.400 Yeah, there was an incident version that was called fight 1:22:52.439 --> 1:22:54.439 for You right reviews. So how did that? How was 1:22:54.479 --> 1:22:55.559 that picture come together? 1:22:56.160 --> 1:22:56.200 Just? 1:22:56.760 --> 1:22:58.680 Oh man, are you guys aware at the time what 1:22:58.840 --> 1:23:01.280 his condition was? And this was sort of like this 1:23:01.439 --> 1:23:02.880 swan song or we kind. 1:23:02.720 --> 1:23:04.880 Of got that sense as we were shooting it, like 1:23:05.240 --> 1:23:09.600 I knew he had been sick, but I there was 1:23:09.720 --> 1:23:11.840 kind of like the public word on this on the 1:23:11.880 --> 1:23:13.880 street was that he was getting better, you know. 1:23:15.360 --> 1:23:16.840 And then he just called me. 1:23:16.880 --> 1:23:19.840 One day, I got a call from adamill Coke call yeah, 1:23:19.960 --> 1:23:22.479 and it was just like the greatest fucking phone call 1:23:22.600 --> 1:23:23.360 you ever got. 1:23:23.479 --> 1:23:26.160 A huge BC Boys fan my whole life. 1:23:26.360 --> 1:23:30.040 Like I'd met him once or twice before at like 1:23:30.160 --> 1:23:33.040 south By Southwest, I think, and yeah, and he was 1:23:33.080 --> 1:23:35.000 just like, we're making a music video and I want 1:23:35.320 --> 1:23:36.640 you to be Mike d. 1:23:38.360 --> 1:23:41.000 And that was fucking great. 1:23:41.080 --> 1:23:44.040 And then we shot that video for three days, which 1:23:44.160 --> 1:23:48.000 is crazy for a music video, and and every famous 1:23:48.040 --> 1:23:50.080 person ever was in and I think it was like 1:23:50.200 --> 1:23:52.439 halfway through day two where I was like, oh, this 1:23:52.600 --> 1:23:53.640 is like a kind of like. 1:23:53.680 --> 1:23:55.360 A big last Tursh Swan song. 1:23:55.520 --> 1:23:58.840 Yeah, And and then it got kind of sad and bittersweet, 1:23:58.920 --> 1:24:01.280 but was also fun like when when I look back 1:24:01.560 --> 1:24:06.560 and think of was like he was just telling like 1:24:06.920 --> 1:24:09.200 it was literally like we were all his like g 1:24:09.400 --> 1:24:12.000 I Joe toys and he was just playing with us 1:24:12.120 --> 1:24:14.800 and it was like for your birthday, here's all your 1:24:14.880 --> 1:24:18.840 favorite comedians and they'll do whatever the fuck you tell 1:24:18.920 --> 1:24:21.640 them to do for three days straight on this New 1:24:21.760 --> 1:24:24.920 York City backlot and like that's literally like he would 1:24:24.960 --> 1:24:28.120 just be laughing, Daddy, kick the store in except throw 1:24:28.200 --> 1:24:30.599 this beard him, you guys, dance on the cough car 1:24:30.880 --> 1:24:33.240 and like and he would just be like laughing his 1:24:33.479 --> 1:24:36.240 ass off as we were just like what like there 1:24:36.360 --> 1:24:39.080 was no questions there was. It was never like why 1:24:39.120 --> 1:24:41.519 would I do that? He was just like sure, yeah, whatever, 1:24:41.800 --> 1:24:44.640 whatever the fuck you want, We're it, and like we 1:24:45.400 --> 1:24:47.759 and it started to kind of imitate the video itself 1:24:47.800 --> 1:24:49.840 because we were there all the time, Me and Danny 1:24:49.920 --> 1:24:52.240 and Elijah who were the Beastie Boys, and then other 1:24:52.800 --> 1:24:55.320 cameos would come in for like a couple hours, and 1:24:55.439 --> 1:24:56.639 we were like in this mindset. 1:24:56.720 --> 1:24:57.479 It was like crazy. 1:24:57.640 --> 1:25:00.719 We were just like so geared to just do whatever 1:25:01.040 --> 1:25:03.120 we were told to do. With Eddie, like if they 1:25:03.160 --> 1:25:05.000 were just like body slam Laura Dirt, I was like 1:25:05.040 --> 1:25:10.080 all right, was like no, Like I was just like 1:25:10.439 --> 1:25:13.080 in this like state of like I'll just do whatever 1:25:13.160 --> 1:25:15.680 the fuck this guy tells me. That's what we're here for. 1:25:16.040 --> 1:25:17.680 And you could see people would come in and be 1:25:17.760 --> 1:25:19.880 like this is crazy, Like what are you guys doing 1:25:20.000 --> 1:25:22.479 in here? This is like you've you've gone nuts and 1:25:22.560 --> 1:25:25.080 that really like we were just spraying beer, a fake 1:25:25.200 --> 1:25:28.559 beer on everyone's faces and like throwing like we Yeah, 1:25:28.640 --> 1:25:28.840 it was. 1:25:29.040 --> 1:25:31.560 It was a maddening Danny McBride must be like he 1:25:31.720 --> 1:25:32.599 writes to correct. 1:25:32.680 --> 1:25:35.920 Yeah, he writes Eastbounding down and the Righteous Gemstone right, 1:25:36.040 --> 1:25:37.479 So yeah, he. 1:25:37.520 --> 1:25:38.599 Must be like awesome to work. 1:25:38.600 --> 1:25:40.120 In my mind, everybody who was in this is the 1:25:40.280 --> 1:25:41.920 end in a way to do their own writing, But 1:25:41.960 --> 1:25:44.479 who is like awesome to write with? It blows your 1:25:44.520 --> 1:25:46.280 mind and you just like the fuck you come up 1:25:46.320 --> 1:25:46.800 with that ship. 1:25:47.120 --> 1:25:51.560 They're all great in their own ways. Like yeah, Like 1:25:51.720 --> 1:25:54.720 Danny Jonah is truly the one. Like on set is 1:25:54.840 --> 1:25:58.679 like it's pretty remarkable to watch, like he's he he's 1:25:58.840 --> 1:26:02.160 like he gets like very locked in and is like 1:26:03.120 --> 1:26:06.360 it's like a pretty miraculous thing. From time to time, 1:26:06.760 --> 1:26:11.439 Danny is very loose and had and biting and like 1:26:11.720 --> 1:26:14.080 he's the comedian that kind of the other comedians are 1:26:14.080 --> 1:26:18.559 a little afraid to improvise with hurts, yeah, because I mean, 1:26:20.000 --> 1:26:21.160 but he's very sweet and nice. 1:26:21.240 --> 1:26:24.439 But it was like I saw him once and I 1:26:24.560 --> 1:26:28.280 did not say because I just felt like. 1:26:28.640 --> 1:26:31.559 He don't know, you know, he's very sweet and such 1:26:31.560 --> 1:26:34.200 a nice dude and like not and what it is 1:26:34.320 --> 1:26:36.360 one of those funny things where like he created those 1:26:36.479 --> 1:26:38.519 characters as a way to make fun of the guys 1:26:38.600 --> 1:26:40.000 he didn't like growing up. 1:26:40.080 --> 1:26:45.760 Basically that is who he is and his biggest fan 1:26:45.920 --> 1:26:53.120 base is probably which is a bummer videos. 1:26:53.920 --> 1:26:58.760 How did Kanye contact you to do bund We. 1:26:58.840 --> 1:27:01.679 Just did it on our own and then he did 1:27:02.040 --> 1:27:04.600 really yes, and then he did ask so he just 1:27:04.680 --> 1:27:05.080 released it. 1:27:05.720 --> 1:27:06.280 We released it. 1:27:06.520 --> 1:27:08.599 He did it. No, we just did it. He released 1:27:08.640 --> 1:27:11.480 his video and literally within. 1:27:11.280 --> 1:27:14.200 An hour of seeing it, I was like, we're recreating it, 1:27:16.040 --> 1:27:19.360 and we had ours up like twenty four hours later. 1:27:19.560 --> 1:27:21.880 Like it was you know, it was I've never seen 1:27:21.960 --> 1:27:22.760 Kanye's version. 1:27:23.000 --> 1:27:23.679 Oh that's funny. 1:27:23.680 --> 1:27:27.559 You just saw ours fun fat I never seen Kanye. 1:27:29.800 --> 1:27:38.439 It's okay, I never saw so much worse. 1:27:43.880 --> 1:27:46.720 You wait, what, what's what's the Patino film? Okay, I'm 1:27:46.760 --> 1:27:47.200 reding it. 1:27:48.160 --> 1:27:49.240 What's the film? O? 1:27:50.640 --> 1:27:56.519 Not Donnie Frosco. You were the end of Carlido's way. 1:27:56.640 --> 1:27:58.400 When you think they're going to get away with it, 1:27:58.439 --> 1:27:59.760 It's like, hey, no, you go. 1:28:01.640 --> 1:28:07.080 You yeah, you ca he stabbed you. 1:28:08.760 --> 1:28:11.599 No, I'm sorry. I've seen the college drap out ones, 1:28:11.640 --> 1:28:12.720 but I haven't seen post that. 1:28:12.960 --> 1:28:14.720 No, but he did ask us to come do it 1:28:14.800 --> 1:28:17.519 at his wedding. Wow, Franco. 1:28:17.680 --> 1:28:18.599 Yeah, I don't understand. 1:28:18.640 --> 1:28:20.960 He called us and was like, will you come do 1:28:21.120 --> 1:28:24.040 that at my wedding? And did you know it? Well? 1:28:24.120 --> 1:28:24.160 Know? 1:28:24.280 --> 1:28:25.719 Like it was one of those things were like throughout 1:28:25.800 --> 1:28:30.719 the conversation, I like, you thought willed him to realize 1:28:30.800 --> 1:28:33.920 how uncomfortable it would be, which he slowly. 1:28:33.720 --> 1:28:37.479 Did he and I was just like, so we're just 1:28:38.240 --> 1:28:40.760 and he's just like he's like, as I say this, 1:28:40.920 --> 1:28:44.719 I realized how comfortable. He's like, it would be funny 1:28:44.760 --> 1:28:45.400 for ten seconds. 1:28:45.439 --> 1:28:47.120 But he's like, I've asked you to fly to verside 1:28:47.160 --> 1:28:49.920 for like literally ten seconds and ship He's like, we 1:28:49.960 --> 1:28:50.519 shouldn't do it. 1:28:50.640 --> 1:28:57.800 But so I meant, I mean you you lived, You 1:28:57.920 --> 1:29:03.240 lived a charmed sort of listy life. I want to know, 1:29:04.280 --> 1:29:06.600 did a project ever get away from you that you 1:29:06.760 --> 1:29:11.280 had your eyes on that you wish you I wish 1:29:11.360 --> 1:29:16.400 we did, like you had a chance to no write 1:29:16.560 --> 1:29:17.840 or direct blah blah blah. 1:29:17.920 --> 1:29:18.960 But there are. 1:29:19.040 --> 1:29:23.120 Things like no I mean, yeah, did Lynn Manuel come 1:29:23.160 --> 1:29:27.479 up to Hamilton get away from your kid? 1:29:28.960 --> 1:29:33.320 No, there are things that like that we that came 1:29:33.360 --> 1:29:37.800 across our desk that then became very successful. But I 1:29:37.920 --> 1:29:40.640 don't think when I look like, oh, like, should we 1:29:40.720 --> 1:29:43.400 have really like spent like two years making like you know, 1:29:43.520 --> 1:29:47.240 like Hobbs and Shaw, I. 1:29:47.240 --> 1:29:49.200 Don't know, like maybe it would have been fun. 1:29:50.600 --> 1:29:52.040 Like yeah, I mean I don't know if it was 1:29:52.080 --> 1:29:53.960 like outwardly offered, but there was a point where it's like, 1:29:54.040 --> 1:29:55.400 come in, you want to meet on the Hobbs and 1:29:55.479 --> 1:29:58.639 char movies like Deadpool Baby years ago, very long time. 1:29:59.520 --> 1:30:03.639 But like I think that it's not It just wasn't 1:30:03.680 --> 1:30:06.160 our thing, you know what I mean, Like we weren't like, uh, 1:30:06.479 --> 1:30:08.639 the idea like plugging in. I think that's what green 1:30:08.680 --> 1:30:10.920 Hornet scared us off of more than anything, was like 1:30:11.280 --> 1:30:12.120 plugging into. 1:30:12.000 --> 1:30:14.320 This like saying yes to everything, yeah exactly, and. 1:30:14.400 --> 1:30:18.040 Plugging into like an IP that is like very established, yeah, 1:30:18.080 --> 1:30:20.880 already established, and having to like work within that so 1:30:21.080 --> 1:30:24.080 like like and working with like a big company is 1:30:24.160 --> 1:30:26.240 like just scary, like working with like a Marvel or 1:30:26.439 --> 1:30:28.360 you know, like and not to say we wouldn't do it. 1:30:28.439 --> 1:30:29.800 It's just it's just scary, you know. 1:30:30.040 --> 1:30:32.840 And and I think and making like a friend, yeah, 1:30:32.880 --> 1:30:34.559 like making like a Hobs and Shot type movie where 1:30:34.560 --> 1:30:36.439 it's just like, this movie's gonna get made no matter what. 1:30:36.960 --> 1:30:40.639 We're just the people like, you know, serving you the dish. 1:30:40.760 --> 1:30:43.760 Well, the silver lining of Greenhorn is that you got 1:30:43.800 --> 1:30:45.160 your health in check. 1:30:45.360 --> 1:30:48.200 Yes, and it started working out. Yeah I know that. 1:30:50.120 --> 1:30:52.960 Well yeah, No, it was a lot of good and 1:30:53.200 --> 1:30:57.000 we learned like so much like we that movie was 1:30:57.040 --> 1:31:00.599 made in a way movies aren't made anymore. Like everything 1:31:00.640 --> 1:31:03.080 it was practical effects, it was visual effects. There was 1:31:03.479 --> 1:31:06.600 there was huge stunt teams. There was like literally the 1:31:06.640 --> 1:31:08.840 stunt team that did Indianda Jones did the movie. Like 1:31:09.080 --> 1:31:12.920 we got to learn from these like amazing people, and 1:31:13.560 --> 1:31:16.160 and Gondry himself was someone who was amazing to learn from. 1:31:16.200 --> 1:31:19.519 And even though the result was debatable, like I think 1:31:19.960 --> 1:31:23.760 very few experiences made us understand the production process and 1:31:23.840 --> 1:31:27.280 filmmaking in general, uh more than that movie because it 1:31:27.400 --> 1:31:31.840 was as logistically complicated a movie as as exists in 1:31:31.920 --> 1:31:34.240 the world. And we had like a front row seat 1:31:34.320 --> 1:31:38.200 to every step of the process. So that was really interesting. 1:31:38.320 --> 1:31:40.720 Yeah. Wow, which it made a better movie. 1:31:42.760 --> 1:31:44.280 Can I show a stoner question real quick? 1:31:44.280 --> 1:31:46.760 Because I remember famously listening to you on Stern one 1:31:46.840 --> 1:31:49.120 day and he was asking you about working out and 1:31:49.439 --> 1:31:50.800 working out why you were smoking, and. 1:31:50.800 --> 1:31:52.240 You were like, yeah, I'll tell you a couple of totes. 1:31:52.439 --> 1:31:52.920 Do you do that? 1:31:53.280 --> 1:31:55.320 Yeah, I've done it in this. 1:31:55.360 --> 1:31:57.400 Little Jill Queen when I do everything. 1:32:00.760 --> 1:32:02.479 I want you to give advice to young stoners because 1:32:02.479 --> 1:32:04.599 I think you have to graduate to that level. Yeah, 1:32:04.640 --> 1:32:06.000 And I wanted to know when you got to the 1:32:06.040 --> 1:32:09.559 point where you knew that you could do everything Stone 1:32:10.520 --> 1:32:11.679 That's that's like next level. 1:32:12.680 --> 1:32:18.879 It takes a while. Yeah, tell a baby, baby, Yeah, exactly, 1:32:20.000 --> 1:32:22.920 Like the thing most people. 1:32:23.479 --> 1:32:26.360 I'm always telling people to smoke a little bit of wheat, 1:32:26.520 --> 1:32:28.680 Like to take one hit of wheat. That's what Like, 1:32:28.880 --> 1:32:30.960 I just I was just with David Chay on his 1:32:31.560 --> 1:32:34.200 Netflix show, and like we went around smoked weed all day, 1:32:34.240 --> 1:32:37.040 and I just the whole time was like one little 1:32:37.120 --> 1:32:39.960 tiny hit and that'll get you going for you'll be 1:32:40.160 --> 1:32:42.559 fine and like like or set a timer, take one 1:32:42.640 --> 1:32:44.280 hit and then see you feel in twenty minutes and 1:32:44.360 --> 1:32:47.040 then maybe have another hit. But like most people just 1:32:47.120 --> 1:32:49.479 make way too much weed and who don't smoke a 1:32:49.520 --> 1:32:52.200 lot of weed, and weat is super strong and one 1:32:52.400 --> 1:32:55.000 hit is enough literally and. 1:32:55.560 --> 1:33:01.040 Get any I'm also, yeah, did you do you smoke 1:33:01.080 --> 1:33:01.360 the team? 1:33:01.760 --> 1:33:06.600 I'm yeah, well I prefer uh was it? I'm like 1:33:06.720 --> 1:33:08.799 so new. I'm literally like seven months into. 1:33:08.640 --> 1:33:11.479 This, so we've been trying for thirty years. 1:33:11.680 --> 1:33:11.880 Yeah. 1:33:11.920 --> 1:33:14.680 But but the thing is, when I do it, it 1:33:14.760 --> 1:33:18.120 always hits me at the most inopportune moment, like I'll 1:33:18.160 --> 1:33:21.519 do it all right. One time I did it at night, Yeah, 1:33:22.080 --> 1:33:23.840 and it felt a little weird, like, oh god, let 1:33:23.920 --> 1:33:27.280 me just sit down and relax. I fell asleep rightep 1:33:28.160 --> 1:33:30.040 and woke up in the morning. It's like, oh damn, 1:33:30.040 --> 1:33:33.120 I didn't get high. That was a waste. And then 1:33:33.520 --> 1:33:36.320 twenty minutes and then twenty minutes into my day right 1:33:36.400 --> 1:33:37.880 when I got on the drum set of fell and 1:33:38.280 --> 1:33:38.920 you all. 1:33:41.520 --> 1:33:42.519 From the night before. 1:33:42.920 --> 1:33:43.400 That's weird. 1:33:43.600 --> 1:33:44.479 Yeah, that is weird. 1:33:45.120 --> 1:33:48.719 I Well, see, I do edibles. 1:33:48.720 --> 1:33:49.000 I don't. 1:33:49.000 --> 1:33:49.880 I don't smoke. 1:33:52.280 --> 1:33:54.400 Are on edible. 1:33:55.320 --> 1:33:58.800 I do edibles very sparingly because they're wildly unpredicted. Yeah 1:33:58.880 --> 1:34:02.040 like that, like they're uh, they're hard to it's hard 1:34:02.080 --> 1:34:05.280 to get time them. Yeah, it's hard to get the 1:34:05.280 --> 1:34:07.519 dose is right, it's hard to time them. Sometimes it 1:34:07.600 --> 1:34:09.519 depends on what. Sometimes they take an hour to kick in, 1:34:09.960 --> 1:34:12.080 two hours to kick in, depends what. It takes five hours. 1:34:12.439 --> 1:34:14.160 You need to take note of the stone is around you. 1:34:14.240 --> 1:34:15.639 Do you ever see Steve eating his weed? 1:34:16.880 --> 1:34:18.719 If you eat your weed, there's none left to smoke. 1:34:23.880 --> 1:34:24.680 Sorry forgive me. 1:34:26.200 --> 1:34:33.040 Again, my my My final question is uh, Oftentimes, like 1:34:33.160 --> 1:34:37.439 right now I'm watching the Morning Show, which is notably everyone. 1:34:38.240 --> 1:34:41.400 I've knew them. I knew them from the funny world, 1:34:41.680 --> 1:34:46.360 the comedy world. But yeah, they're doing drama. Like, would 1:34:46.439 --> 1:34:49.880 you consider because you did Steve Jobs correct the movie? 1:34:51.040 --> 1:34:52.360 No, I did Steve Jobs. 1:34:56.920 --> 1:35:04.760 Technically, would you want to further explore into the world 1:35:04.840 --> 1:35:05.679 of drama? 1:35:06.320 --> 1:35:06.559 Yeah? 1:35:08.240 --> 1:35:12.559 And what role are you? What is your like your 1:35:12.720 --> 1:35:15.920 fantasy thing that you haven't done yet that you really 1:35:15.960 --> 1:35:16.320 want to do? 1:35:16.640 --> 1:35:17.240 We're writing that. 1:35:17.360 --> 1:35:19.439 I mean, that's what's nice about being able to write 1:35:19.560 --> 1:35:21.719 your own movies, is like, I've no one to blame 1:35:21.800 --> 1:35:25.040 but myself for if if my career seems limited in 1:35:25.200 --> 1:35:29.240 scope as an actor, like yeah, I mean, what uh 1:35:29.640 --> 1:35:32.160 the thing we're working on now I'm obsessed with, Like 1:35:32.240 --> 1:35:35.439 Buster Keaton and Jackie Chan and so like, I've always 1:35:35.479 --> 1:35:40.120 wanted to make like a highly physical, like action movie, 1:35:40.280 --> 1:35:44.320 like our action comedy, like something that is almost entirely 1:35:44.479 --> 1:35:48.080 predicated on action and not a lot of talking at all. 1:35:48.320 --> 1:35:51.160 And that has just always been something that I always 1:35:51.240 --> 1:35:54.559 enjoy shooting that type of stuff, and so that something 1:35:54.600 --> 1:35:55.160 that we want to. 1:35:55.160 --> 1:35:57.960 Do, and that's what we're working on right now. Yeah, 1:35:58.000 --> 1:35:59.559 kind of like a really violent mister Bean. 1:36:05.680 --> 1:36:08.519 All right, Well, you know, Seth, we really thank you. Damn, 1:36:08.520 --> 1:36:10.400 we don't even get to your your hip hop. It's 1:36:11.520 --> 1:36:13.320 we'll just assume that you like hip hop. I love 1:36:13.360 --> 1:36:17.360 it anyway. No, we really want to thank you for coming. 1:36:19.200 --> 1:36:21.360 And you want to appreciate to love that. 1:36:22.280 --> 1:36:25.479 Yes on behalf of Sugar Steve and Unpaid Bill and 1:36:25.600 --> 1:36:31.519 Boss Bill and lie In. This is Quest Love. You've 1:36:31.520 --> 1:36:33.840 been listening to Quest Love Supreme. Thank you very much, Seth. 1:36:34.280 --> 1:36:36.599 We will see you on the next go round. 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