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Speaker 1: You know I love the QLs episodes with comedians, and
Speaker 1: right before the pandemic, we had Seth Rogan on. We Laugh,
Speaker 1: We talked Hollywood shop, we talk hip hop, stand up,
Speaker 1: listen back as Laiah Sugar, Steve Boss Bill, and I
Speaker 1: spoke with Seth, who was so fun to hang out
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Speaker 1: first of January.
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Speaker 1: To Seventh Smith, yes, I'm gonna be rich and funny. Okay,
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Speaker 1: Happy New Year. This is January first, twenty twenty. Everybody,
Speaker 1: how do you feel good?
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Speaker 1: How is your How was your holiday? Your festivities? It
Speaker 1: was old and cold.
Speaker 10: No, we had a great time, of course, okay.
Speaker 7: Great, we can't remember.
Speaker 1: Did the checks come through?
Speaker 10: Yeah, the honk checks clear it Solf as well.
Speaker 1: I'm actually shocked because whenever any of your brothers come
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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, I started incorporating the jewy part, but just
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Speaker 1: Paid Bill would not approve anyway. I'm your host Questlove,
Speaker 1: joined to day by my croonies, Boss Bill, Sugar, Steve unpaid, pilled.
Speaker 1: Surprisingly isn't here? Yeah here wit? Is he not coming?
Speaker 1: Or did we call him? Do we let him know?
Speaker 1: Let him?
Speaker 3: You know he does play sesame streets and stuff.
Speaker 1: Okay, so he's can chill the muppets enough bagel jokes.
Speaker 10: We can make out anyway.
Speaker 1: Uh, not to stall anymore, Ladies and gentlemen, we have comedian, director, producer, actor, writer,
Speaker 1: leading man cannabis connoisseur. I also uh advocate for sleeping
Speaker 1: in the bedroom under sixty seven degrees.
Speaker 7: Yes, it's true.
Speaker 8: We will we will get that later.
Speaker 1: I guess. Uh Philadelphia music culture fan voice him in
Speaker 1: the roots. Uh ladies and gentlemen, and and hip hop
Speaker 1: head and Canadian ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show.
Speaker 1: Seth Rogan. Wait, I gotta all right, we this is
Speaker 1: this is a show of rabbit holing. Let's just start
Speaker 1: getting first, all right, I'm a little I'm miffed. All right,
Speaker 1: so I have to explain that.
Speaker 7: A lot of backstories.
Speaker 1: I was very fortunate. I was very fortunate to attend
Speaker 1: uh sets uh Hilarity for charity event. Shout out to
Speaker 1: uh Mnisian and Mary Ellis Museum.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I went there and the discussion of how
Speaker 1: much sleep does a person need to have a healthy brain? Yes, yes, No,
Speaker 1: I learned a lot. I learned that. As of lately,
Speaker 1: I'll say the last two months, I've been back into
Speaker 1: the eight hour range of sleeping because right because people
Speaker 1: were always like, when do you sleep? When do you
Speaker 1: see to sleep? I was three, I was three to
Speaker 1: five hour guy, and I was told that you don't
Speaker 1: even reach r em state until six hours and forty
Speaker 1: seven minutes and for your body to heal. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm adjusting my lifestyle right now. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: back to a healthier place. I gotta do somewhere between
Speaker 1: eight to ten hours for the magic to begin. So,
Speaker 1: but then you guys left me with this, this gem
Speaker 1: of the room has to be cold.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you sleep best if the room is freezing. I've
Speaker 8: heard that before, like sixty in the sixties.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, my girlfriend took that to heart and now
Speaker 1: every night.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it's cold as hell.
Speaker 1: It's been sixty five degrees in the bedroom.
Speaker 7: Are you sleeping better?
Speaker 3: No, blanket?
Speaker 1: No, I'm sleeping well. But it's not like I needed
Speaker 1: to be Africa hot.
Speaker 7: My wife.
Speaker 8: Well, that's why my wife likes it much colder than me.
Speaker 8: And that's why they have heating pad. That's what we're
Speaker 8: talking about. There's there's paths from actress where you can
Speaker 8: set the temperature so you could keep your side hot
Speaker 8: and side cold.
Speaker 7: And it's something that throughout the DLT.
Speaker 8: Yeah perfect, I'm sorry, it's exactly right, but uh no,
Speaker 8: it's fun. And I think I think as men get older,
Speaker 8: they get colder. It is we would get older, they
Speaker 8: get hotter. Yeah, yeah, me and my wife have kind
Speaker 8: of We were just talking about how we like crossed over.
Speaker 8: Like when we first started dating, I was always hot
Speaker 8: and she was always cold, and now I'm always cold
Speaker 8: and she's always hot. And we probably had like three
Speaker 8: years where we were both the same temperature and we
Speaker 8: didn't realize how good that time was until it was gone.
Speaker 1: No, it could be really probably problematic because I'll get up,
Speaker 1: I'll reach my limit at exactly like four to seventeen am.
Speaker 7: And you're freezing.
Speaker 1: Are you sure I'll sneak up? Isn't that?
Speaker 7: Remember it?
Speaker 1: All right? You remember Sesame Street, the green guy in
Speaker 1: the in the in the trench coat that used to
Speaker 1: always sell ernie like a letter hey.
Speaker 8: But yeah, yeah exactly, letter dealer, right, So like his
Speaker 8: little creep music, creeping tiptoe music.
Speaker 1: Yes, exactly. So I'm in my own house that I
Speaker 1: pay for creeping putting that ship back to like something
Speaker 1: normal like sixty eight.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I don't go below sixty eight ars. So that's
Speaker 8: where we've landed. My wife Lauren would go to this
Speaker 8: like low sixties over thirty five.
Speaker 3: You gotta go to sixty six bra for a woman,
Speaker 3: because you.
Speaker 6: Got us put on another blanket and then make it
Speaker 6: hot underneath it. You know what I'm saying, that's the goal.
Speaker 3: Think about it.
Speaker 4: What's the what's the logic behind keeping it colder? What's
Speaker 4: the physics of And.
Speaker 1: Then the thing is that your your brain is divided
Speaker 1: into two parts. There's the conscious brain and like the
Speaker 1: concert beans like hey, uh, I'm gonna go to work,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to work later today, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the subway home, I'm gonna lose weight, I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask that girl out. And then it's a subconscious which
Speaker 1: does stuff like I'm gonna make sure your heart's beating,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure you're waste. So it's the it's
Speaker 1: the part of your brain whoa yeah, what do you say?
Speaker 7: And so it's actually a fish song of course, And so.
Speaker 1: Your body has to be totally knocked out. So you
Speaker 1: get to that ram state at exactly six hours and
Speaker 1: forty five minutes. When you're that sleep, then your right
Speaker 1: side of the brain's like waking up.
Speaker 7: Like all right, he's asleep, let's get to work.
Speaker 1: And so then that's where the fat burns. That's where
Speaker 1: like all the things that you want to help have
Speaker 1: happened for your life to be good. Your your brain's
Speaker 1: like all right, they're knocked out. Now now we can
Speaker 1: get to work. But the thing is that most of
Speaker 1: us don't get that much sleep, so we're doing ourselves
Speaker 1: a disservice by only sleeping six to seven hours.
Speaker 7: It's terrible for you.
Speaker 10: Yeah, you didn't answer my questions. Why does it have
Speaker 10: to be cold?
Speaker 7: Probably because people it probably because it was cold at night.
Speaker 10: You're you mean like before we had houses.
Speaker 8: Yeah, Like, it's probably like we're conditioned to sleep in
Speaker 8: colder environments, so.
Speaker 1: I think so. So at this event, Okay, can we
Speaker 1: disagree that this entire hour is going to be about this.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of when you're side of the fence. Why
Speaker 1: does it have to be so damn cold? No?
Speaker 10: I mean, I'm just asking, no, no, no, I'm asking.
Speaker 4: I'm what's the scientific part of I don't think coldness helps.
Speaker 7: I don't know.
Speaker 1: That's where I want to know.
Speaker 6: Google, where we changed the subject.
Speaker 1: I'm just going to suggest everybody hop on Google.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Google, and then we can continue. Anyway, let's talk
Speaker 7: about movies.
Speaker 1: Where are you?
Speaker 7: But you do sleep better?
Speaker 1: What it's cold? And that's the.
Speaker 8: Uh, we don't need wise, are we giving wise? We're
Speaker 8: just giving answers here. It's been said completely unsubstantiated information scientists.
Speaker 1: Scientists have gone on record and said.
Speaker 7: We had a doctor he substantiated it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I believe me and my curiosity.
Speaker 1: So you were born in Vancouver, Vancouver, British Columbia. Uh huh,
Speaker 1: home home of the the hip hop national anthem.
Speaker 6: Wait who else was Alia Chang?
Speaker 3: Because he's yeah.
Speaker 7: This episode has manager. Yeah, you know so, I think
Speaker 7: I've met her over the years.
Speaker 1: Actually she'll be on the future episodes anyway. Yeah, I know.
Speaker 7: The Rascals are a hip hop group from Vancouver.
Speaker 8: That were the Rascals, the Rascals they were called like
Speaker 8: uh and uh Northern Touch, Yeah, Rascals, checkmate, Cardinal Allen
Speaker 8: thrust Claire, how do you know this? How do you
Speaker 8: know that? Very no American knows that song?
Speaker 1: I do my research.
Speaker 8: Well, maybe you can help you straight to steal the
Speaker 8: beat of that song for a song.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there is a d MX song with.
Speaker 8: The exact same beat as Northern Touch, And I think
Speaker 8: if you're Canadian it's very jarring.
Speaker 7: But if you're like, oh, this is a good beat.
Speaker 1: Still I can't yeh express bt express ample that E
Speaker 1: P m D used head banger ev Well no, no, no
Speaker 1: for uh uh you know what I'm saying. Northern Touch first,
Speaker 1: get the bows that No, E B M D was first,
Speaker 1: and then Northern Touch yes maybe, and then DMX came
Speaker 1: and just took it.
Speaker 7: Did you did you?
Speaker 1: Did you know that your your hometown is also uh
Speaker 1: what what? I consider that the national anthem of hip hop?
Speaker 1: Did you know that Apache was created in Vancouver?
Speaker 7: Apache?
Speaker 1: Yes? Apache was recorded and created in Vancouver.
Speaker 7: Really?
Speaker 1: Yes, I did not know that. Yes, that's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite factoids.
Speaker 8: About that is a very good fact with Vancouver and
Speaker 8: the other and Nard Wars from Vancouver is the other.
Speaker 1: I love Artwar.
Speaker 8: Yeah, your interviews with him are great. Have you interviewed
Speaker 8: been I've been interviewed by him once.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a non savory NRD war interview
Speaker 1: like a lot of the earlier ones where they don't
Speaker 1: you know if he's trolling them or not?
Speaker 7: Oh?
Speaker 8: Yes, So, I mean I grew up watching him, So
Speaker 8: I've seen like so many.
Speaker 1: How long has he been doing this?
Speaker 7: Like thirty years? He's like fifty something. Yes, he's younger
Speaker 7: than me.
Speaker 8: No, there's actually an amazing yard War interview with Nirvana,
Speaker 8: like backstage at the P and E Forum, which is
Speaker 8: the place in Vancouver from like nineteen ninety, like three
Speaker 8: or something like Courtney Love is there and it's like
Speaker 8: a very long interview that's filmed and throughout it's like
Speaker 8: forty minutes or something like. Throughout the course of it,
Speaker 8: you see Kurt Kobad like slowly realize he's a genius,
Speaker 8: and like, at first it's this thing where it's just like,
Speaker 8: why is this fucking guy here bothering me? And then
Speaker 8: he slowly like clues in the house. Yeah, he totally
Speaker 8: does know. But I've seen because now people know who
Speaker 8: he is. Like, but for years I would watch interviews
Speaker 8: where famous musicians would just get interviewed by him and
Speaker 8: be like, who the fuck is this guy? And even
Speaker 8: still some people don't I feel like, don't get it.
Speaker 8: I feel like people all right, So that jay Z
Speaker 8: interviews jay Z didn't seem to appreciate.
Speaker 7: No.
Speaker 1: I warned him about it. I begged him to do it,
Speaker 1: and then Forrell doubled down. Yeah, so he did it.
Speaker 1: Because if we say it's a thing then jay Z
Speaker 1: is just one of them, fomo. I don't want to
Speaker 1: miss out.
Speaker 7: He's got no question.
Speaker 1: Anyway. And so but I'll say that the first time
Speaker 1: he interviewed me, I was paranoid because he just knew way.
Speaker 7: Oh it's weird.
Speaker 1: Too much information he.
Speaker 8: Knew about me. That was he brought out your books. Yeah,
Speaker 8: he had my high school yearbooks. Literally, he like knew people.
Speaker 8: He knew names that I hadn't heard in like, yeah,
Speaker 8: twenty five years.
Speaker 1: Back from the shop at your mommy store.
Speaker 7: Yes, literally that. Yeah, it's totally crazy.
Speaker 1: It would freak me out.
Speaker 8: It was super fucking freaky. But his knowledge is bizarre.
Speaker 8: He's always trying to get to Kanye. He's like that's
Speaker 8: his holy grail. He like emails me and.
Speaker 7: Tells me are YouTube? Oh not at all? Yes, I
Speaker 7: can see that going very bad.
Speaker 1: He somehow thinks that I have the magic touch to
Speaker 1: get him to the Obamas.
Speaker 7: Wow, I would be for Kanye. So yeah, that's a
Speaker 7: big step in a much better direction.
Speaker 5: I read somewhere somebody said online that, uh that when
Speaker 5: you get to the purlegates of Heaven, it's nard war
Speaker 5: that Yeah, he's the one that reviewing your entire life there.
Speaker 1: So, speaking of your hometown, are you is every time
Speaker 1: I ask anybody from Vancouver, are you knowledgeable the La
Speaker 1: Cassa gelato or is that just for tour suckers like me?
Speaker 1: It's the place that.
Speaker 7: Has like hundreds of flavors of Gilado. Yeah, it's near.
Speaker 7: It's on like the like north end of kind of
Speaker 7: the east side of Vancouver.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite place. Ever, I might.
Speaker 8: It's not somewhere I grew up going, but it's somewhere
Speaker 8: that I've heard of it.
Speaker 1: I think it might be kind of a you know,
Speaker 1: it's like mc vinegar.
Speaker 8: Yeah, it was one of the first places to start
Speaker 8: doing like weird flavors or ship like that.
Speaker 1: Yeah. They basically just cheese ice cream, man.
Speaker 7: Like a tobacco one or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for a while.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Well, I mean.
Speaker 1: Something that some of the weird ones I liked, Like
Speaker 1: they have black pepper vanilla.
Speaker 7: That's weird. How is cheddar cheese?
Speaker 1: Well that's the thing. You you basically you sample all
Speaker 1: the weird ones and you get the rocky road.
Speaker 8: That's you know, that's a purely like North American thing
Speaker 8: is sampling ice cream.
Speaker 7: Like, uh, what I was considered rude. Well, I was
Speaker 7: in Italy and uh not to brag.
Speaker 8: That was in Italy in a gelato shop and there
Speaker 8: was like a rush of Americans left and me and
Speaker 8: my wife for the holy people at the restaurant, and
Speaker 8: the woman behind the counter like very quietly looked at us.
Speaker 7: And goes, can I ask you a question? We're like, yeah,
Speaker 7: how come American always ask the taste? And she's like,
Speaker 7: what is this? Like nowhere else you asked to taste them?
Speaker 8: And I was like, you're right when you put it
Speaker 8: like that, it is pretty fucking weird, Like nowhere else
Speaker 8: you'd be like.
Speaker 7: Can I try that sandwich? Piece of.
Speaker 1: Ros?
Speaker 7: That's what I said.
Speaker 8: I said, I think it all roots back to this
Speaker 8: one place, basket Robbins, where they encourage people to do
Speaker 8: it and that ruined really ice cream all over the
Speaker 8: Yeah there that the sun.
Speaker 3: They I'm like, yeah, they combined with Duncan donuts.
Speaker 1: No, No, that's the thing. I know that the Sun
Speaker 1: inherited the empire, and because you know, like generations are
Speaker 1: the opposite of what their parents were, the Sun wasn't like,
Speaker 1: you know, he didn't he was concerned about the cows.
Speaker 1: They were using and wanted free range, and so instead
Speaker 1: he took the family money and did this expose on
Speaker 1: how like ice cream companies are ruining cows or environment
Speaker 1: and all those things.
Speaker 7: It's like ice cream succession.
Speaker 1: So they that's crazy basket around.
Speaker 3: I was just saying the ice cream industry.
Speaker 1: Which explains why they had to partner.
Speaker 6: With that Margarita flavor. Still there is good Margarite ice
Speaker 6: cream have a Margarita flavor.
Speaker 3: They've had it forever.
Speaker 8: My good to condition children at a young age to
Speaker 8: develop a taste from Margarita's.
Speaker 1: So twenty minutes. So twenty minutes into this interview, let's start.
Speaker 1: So you being born in the early eighties in Vancouver,
Speaker 1: what was the what was your environment like in your household?
Speaker 8: My household, I lived on the East Side of Vancouver,
Speaker 8: which in like a one hundred percent like East Indian neighborhood,
Speaker 8: So it was it was great. It was like I
Speaker 8: would walk around a lot. I was just arguing with
Speaker 8: my parents. Their memory was that I never walked around alone,
Speaker 8: and I definitively did all the time. It would take
Speaker 8: the bus all around the city. But uh yeah, but
Speaker 8: I went to school on the West side.
Speaker 7: I grew up.
Speaker 8: I started doing stand up when I was young, like
Speaker 8: twelve or thirteen, and I would started writing around then too.
Speaker 7: And I smoked weed a lot. Not much has changed
Speaker 7: my life since I was twelve.
Speaker 1: I ag So the myth, the myth of super Bad
Speaker 1: and you crafting this at such a young age is one.
Speaker 7: Yes, for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 8: Me and my partner Evan, who I still work with,
Speaker 8: met in bar Mitzvah class when we were twelve and
Speaker 8: then started writing together not long after that, and we
Speaker 8: had Yeah, we probably finished the draft to super Bad
Speaker 8: when we were like fourteen or fifteen from the complete
Speaker 8: yeah by then, but we started we were like thirteen,
Speaker 8: And there is some and it's like it's one of
Speaker 8: those things where it's almost sad that, like, I'm not
Speaker 8: that much smarter or fuddier that I was when I
Speaker 8: was thirteen years old, because there are some jokes in
Speaker 8: the movie that like we wrote when we were thirteen
Speaker 8: that are still in the movie, that are in the
Speaker 8: movie that like that held up and that are still Yeah,
Speaker 8: you'd like to think you got better in that amount
Speaker 8: of time at fourteen.
Speaker 3: Yes, look like a professional, I'm.
Speaker 8: Trying to say, I I asked my mom to buy
Speaker 8: me Final Draft, which was the script writing software, and
Speaker 8: she did. My parents were like super supportive because I
Speaker 8: also didn't stand up, so they saw that like I
Speaker 8: would work hard, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: This is ninety six.
Speaker 8: Yeah, this is probably ninety five or ninety six or
Speaker 8: something like that. Yeah, ninety five, I would say ninety six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like all right, I'm curious. And this is leads
Speaker 1: back to the conscious subconscious. When you're subconscious, it's convinced
Speaker 1: of something, then your body does it, which which explains
Speaker 1: why you know, Kanye uses outward affirmations I am the greatest, yes,
Speaker 1: and then everything happens for him, the same way with Trump,
Speaker 1: the same way with Diddy, the same with with Jay.
Speaker 3: Remember Day remix it and called it a secret six million.
Speaker 8: Dollars account six million do secret?
Speaker 6: I have.
Speaker 1: Six million dollars in my make account.
Speaker 7: Right now, right now.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious what what inside you gave you the
Speaker 1: the balls to even be like, yo, let's write a
Speaker 1: movie now, Like it didn't even start with like, let's
Speaker 1: start with community theater.
Speaker 7: Yeah, hey, how do you do this?
Speaker 1: Or did you see a movie? One day? Is like
Speaker 1: I could do literally that's what happened? Like what movie
Speaker 1: did you see that sets you off?
Speaker 8: I can't remember, and we are all we loved fiction.
Speaker 8: That was like no, like that was something. I had
Speaker 8: a pulp fiction poster on my bedroom door, like throughout.
Speaker 1: If you were a teenager in the nineties, you had.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean that came out in ninety four, maybe
Speaker 8: I was twelve, so we saw it around then, and
Speaker 8: it was it was also the era of like independent
Speaker 8: It was like the resurgence of this independent film like
Speaker 8: Clarks came out and Rushmore and Wes Anderson had Bottle Rocket,
Speaker 8: so there was saw this film. Oh yeah, we were
Speaker 8: obsessed with them. And it's also one of those things
Speaker 8: that was my parents loved movies and they were just
Speaker 8: huge movie fans, so they would like watch a lot
Speaker 8: of movies and collect movies.
Speaker 7: Vancouver. They made some stuff.
Speaker 8: There, so it's not like Hollywood, but like you would
Speaker 8: see movie sets around and so there was like it
Speaker 8: wasn't this like completely unobtainable thing.
Speaker 7: And then in.
Speaker 8: High school, our high school was right across the street
Speaker 8: from to video store like giant video stores, and we
Speaker 8: would rent movies, like we watched.
Speaker 7: All we would do is like smoke.
Speaker 8: We'd watch movies basically, and when you watch enough movies
Speaker 8: you start to think, maybe we could do this, and
Speaker 8: if we write something that's like cheap, then maybe that
Speaker 8: was always the thought was like it was said in
Speaker 8: high school, super Bad, and we were like, where it
Speaker 8: comes to worst, like this becomes something we like we
Speaker 8: made movies with like our like you know, we had
Speaker 8: a video camera. We were like, we could technically make
Speaker 8: this ourselves if we wanted to.
Speaker 1: You know, what was your north star in terms of Okay?
Speaker 1: So now it's just hitting me that because I have
Speaker 1: family that worked at an independent movie theater, yeah, back
Speaker 1: in ninety one ninety two, so I always have free tickets.
Speaker 1: But you know, we're seeing al Rachi, We're seeing like
Speaker 1: all these indie films, which I mean the time, I
Speaker 1: didn't realize it, but it was grooming me to gear
Speaker 1: towards art house stuff as opposed to mainstream stuff. But
Speaker 1: for you, what were your Were you a film snob
Speaker 1: or were you just like I got Poor GI's and
Speaker 1: Hot Dog?
Speaker 7: Yeah, no, the Ski Movie, yeah, of course.
Speaker 8: I liked Hamburger the motion pictures, Yeah, Hamburger, Hamburger.
Speaker 7: Was there a Hamburger movie.
Speaker 1: Yes, I gotta see it.
Speaker 7: It was amazing on TV.
Speaker 1: There's a specific like C movie VHS section, anything that
Speaker 1: was on HBO late night, and like in we.
Speaker 8: Would just rent movies based on what the cover of
Speaker 8: the box looking garbage.
Speaker 3: Anybody can find the garbage.
Speaker 8: It's funny, Busy do might movie just came out. I watched,
Speaker 8: But we were we were obsessed with Dolemite because like
Speaker 8: it was one of those reason that like purely based
Speaker 8: on the we're like what is this?
Speaker 5: We did the same We did the same thing, like
Speaker 5: every Friday night, we would all meet up at this
Speaker 5: Mexican restaurant in town and then we would all like
Speaker 5: caravan over to the video store, argue for about half
Speaker 5: an hour about what video we're going to pick out.
Speaker 7: Oh, we would argue for hours.
Speaker 8: We spend more time in the video store than we
Speaker 8: would watching the movies we rented at the video Like
Speaker 8: that was the activity was going to the video store
Speaker 8: inside we argue over.
Speaker 7: What we did.
Speaker 5: We called it a tasteless movie night. We would try to
Speaker 5: find the most tasteless movie we could find in the
Speaker 5: video stoffect Yeah, and we would just go to my
Speaker 5: friend Darren's basement and watch it and just like it
Speaker 5: was commentary, it was perfect commentary involved. I'm sure if
Speaker 5: there had been. Well his mom was a teachers that.
Speaker 1: Would never So what were your go to films?
Speaker 7: Well, I think it's like one thing I look at
Speaker 7: is like the movies.
Speaker 8: It's obviously something I've thought about, you know, is like
Speaker 8: the movies my parents owned, Like they owned like forty
Speaker 8: movies on like vhs that they would like there was
Speaker 8: like three movies to a VHS.
Speaker 7: They would tape them off TV yes when they came
Speaker 7: on and like.
Speaker 1: Would you ever watch them?
Speaker 7: I did all the time.
Speaker 8: And those movies are like cementing in my brain. I know,
Speaker 8: reward to every one of me. And I also bet
Speaker 8: that if I like made a list of all those
Speaker 8: movies they like directly correlate to the movies that I've
Speaker 8: made since then basically like well, it's like Ghostbusters, they
Speaker 8: and movies like that.
Speaker 7: My dad loved Bill Murray.
Speaker 8: They also loved like Woody Allen and like Independent like
Speaker 8: they like they had like Hannah and Her Sisters and
Speaker 8: like any halland movies like that. And I would watch
Speaker 8: those movies a lot. And then they had like Albert
Speaker 8: Brooks movies, and my dad loved Billy Crystal and so
Speaker 8: like it was a lot of that stuff. And my
Speaker 8: mom though, loved action movies, and so we had like
Speaker 8: Die Hard and Total Recall and like Under Siege, I
Speaker 8: remember we had right when it came out, and Lethal
Speaker 8: Weapon was like, it's like one of my mom's favorite movies.
Speaker 8: And so I would watch these like emotionally driven kind
Speaker 8: of comedy drama movies and like the most violent, insane
Speaker 8: action movies. And that's kind of a lot of the
Speaker 8: stuff we make now, I see. Yeah, And so all
Speaker 8: those movies like we loved, and then when yeah, and
Speaker 8: then when Paul Fiction and those movies started to come out,
Speaker 8: we became cessam Reservoir Dogs we loved and like.
Speaker 7: And then we got.
Speaker 8: Really in a Sam Raimie and Peter Jackson's early movies
Speaker 8: like Army of Darkness we watched over and over and
Speaker 8: over again and Dead Alive we watched.
Speaker 7: We watched a lot.
Speaker 8: And like, uh yeah, and then to see those guys
Speaker 8: go on that was another thing. Is like you'd see like, oh,
Speaker 8: like Sam Raimi's Drict and Spider Man and like these
Speaker 8: guys who like we were already fans of for making
Speaker 8: like the weirdest shit ever were then crossing over and
Speaker 8: becoming really successful and I think making big things and
Speaker 8: that was also I think something we always liked and
Speaker 8: that was interesting to us. But no, I mean we
Speaker 8: just like devoured.
Speaker 1: The Vancouver have much of a social or nightlife because
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm almost thinking of I'm thinking that Vancouver
Speaker 1: is almost like all right, what Minneapolis was to print, yeah,
Speaker 1: and how there was a scene there, but because there's
Speaker 1: not much to do. Yes, he had a lot of
Speaker 1: time to hone his craft.
Speaker 8: Yes, to do music a lot, Yes, And the weather
Speaker 8: determines staying in Vancouver is a city where people sit,
Speaker 8: like go to someone's house and smoke weed.
Speaker 7: That's like the activity your experience.
Speaker 8: That is like what people do there, or and when
Speaker 8: it's nice out, you go to a not a nature
Speaker 8: place and smoke weed. It's like a very like weed
Speaker 8: was like super prevalent and like it's a huge It's
Speaker 8: like one of the most progressive cities in the world
Speaker 8: when it comes to weed.
Speaker 1: Even in the nineties. So you've never been arrested for
Speaker 1: the right.
Speaker 8: When I moved to La I got arrested because I
Speaker 8: didn't understand how much more strict it wash than it
Speaker 8: was in Vancouver. Like all throughout high school, if we
Speaker 8: got caught with weed, the cops wouldn't would just take it.
Speaker 8: They wouldn't even always take it. They would just be
Speaker 8: like go away, like like it was such dulow on priority,
Speaker 8: like on the priorities, because Vancouver had like a terrible,
Speaker 8: terrible heroin problem and it was like had a really
Speaker 8: rough drug problem, and so weed very early on became
Speaker 8: deprioritized and decriminalized. And from when I was a kid,
Speaker 8: there was a coffee shop you could go smoke weed
Speaker 8: in and there was like indoor like places you go
Speaker 8: inside and smoke.
Speaker 3: We seth you never know, we would see I have.
Speaker 7: But yeah, when I first moved to l A, we'd
Speaker 7: buy pounds of Mexican weed.
Speaker 1: Wait virgin here was I mean, I mean lots of
Speaker 1: seeds and this is reggie.
Speaker 3: So it's call it reggie regular weed.
Speaker 6: But to me, if Vancouver has been in the hierarchy
Speaker 6: of the weed gang, I would just assume that like
Speaker 6: you're that.
Speaker 7: Good like hydroponic.
Speaker 8: You don't want to seeds, you know, it takes that's
Speaker 8: a sterile part to wait I don't know if that's true.
Speaker 7: I don't know if there's size. That's what associated.
Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. Why is it taking three years
Speaker 1: for me to really wait? How are you just gonna
Speaker 1: let Laya come here and drink your milk?
Speaker 7: Seeds?
Speaker 6: Right, all of our parents spoke with seeds in them,
Speaker 6: and we stole them. We have to pick them out
Speaker 6: and it pops into birds of seats, seats, this leather.
Speaker 7: Sure, it falls out of the joint.
Speaker 3: Sometimes. My dad's a cull for it all the time. God,
Speaker 3: damn daddy, always looking in your car, look at them holes.
Speaker 1: Sorry, I didn't know that you started standing up at
Speaker 1: a young age.
Speaker 7: Fourteen? Yeah, thirteen or fourteen?
Speaker 1: Okay, so the only person I know they had the
Speaker 1: experience with Chappelle.
Speaker 7: How I think Eddie Murphy started around that age. Yeah,
Speaker 7: so very much better.
Speaker 1: How do you how do you even negotiate your way
Speaker 1: into a club? Yeah?
Speaker 8: My mom helped, She would talk to She drove me
Speaker 8: to every show, literally because I couldn't drive. And yeah,
Speaker 8: and what's funny is very early on it's one of
Speaker 8: those like happy coincidences. I did a show that I
Speaker 8: did a fundraiser when I was like fourteen, a small
Speaker 8: one that the premiere who's like the governor kind of
Speaker 8: a British Columbia, was at and my mother cornered him
Speaker 8: and was like, if my son's performing at a bar,
Speaker 8: can he be in the bar? And the guy was like,
Speaker 8: legally yes, And she caught his office to send a
Speaker 8: letter wow saying that as long as I was performing,
Speaker 8: it is legal for me to be in the premises
Speaker 8: and I and I would have to leave right after.
Speaker 8: So like I would sit backstage and I would show
Speaker 8: it to the club. There was only four clubs anyway,
Speaker 8: but once they had all seen it, they would let
Speaker 8: me perform there and and then I performed like regularly,
Speaker 8: and I was like, I was like pretty good, Like
Speaker 8: I wasn't.
Speaker 3: What was a check like at the age? Did you
Speaker 3: get a check?
Speaker 8: Every once in a while, I would like open for
Speaker 8: a comic and I'd get like one hundred and fifty
Speaker 8: bucks or something like that, which when you're fucking but
Speaker 8: like fantastic.
Speaker 1: You use your your kiddom, did you use your youth?
Speaker 7: I tried not to. I tried to.
Speaker 8: I would talk well at first, I didn't at all,
Speaker 8: and I because I was so self conscious about being
Speaker 8: like gimmicky that I would try.
Speaker 1: To tell you fourteen, I know it like rocket adult.
Speaker 8: I was very neurotic, and I didn't want to be
Speaker 8: like the kid comics, so I tried to write jokes
Speaker 8: that that any comic would write that were like more
Speaker 8: like observational humor, but.
Speaker 1: It were I was always wanted to.
Speaker 8: I didn't actually at first at all. Also, but then
Speaker 8: I remember this comic Daryl Lennox, who still does stand
Speaker 8: up and he's great.
Speaker 7: He was like I was telling just.
Speaker 8: Like like all the cogs would make fun of me
Speaker 8: because I had a joke about like crazy glue. What's
Speaker 8: so crazy about it? It was like this like observational
Speaker 8: tumor of all time. And then and then Darryl I remember,
Speaker 8: like sat me down and I was like fifteen, and
Speaker 8: he was like, dude, like you are the only one
Speaker 8: of us who is like experiencing all these things like
Speaker 8: in real time, Like you're trying to kiss girls for
Speaker 8: the first time, you're trying to get your driver's license,
Speaker 8: you're trying to buy beer, you're trying to go to parties,
Speaker 8: you're trying to sneak into strip clubs, like right, jokes
Speaker 8: about that, like that's something that like everyone's gone through
Speaker 8: in some way and you're living it like right now,
Speaker 8: and and I was like okay. And then that was
Speaker 8: also one of the things that really influenced Super Bad,
Speaker 8: where at first it was more like, let's write a
Speaker 8: high school movie, and then we were like, no, let's
Speaker 8: write like whenever something happens to us, let's put it
Speaker 8: in the movie, and let's make us the characters in
Speaker 8: the movie, and let's like structure it around.
Speaker 1: So those things happened to you guys in.
Speaker 8: Super Bad, not all in one night, but almost a
Speaker 8: lot of the stuff in the movie happened, Yeah, like
Speaker 8: in some form or another, like and everything.
Speaker 1: So you grind it up against the girl, and.
Speaker 7: That happened at a school dance.
Speaker 8: Yeah, that that that actually, And in real life, I
Speaker 8: was one of the guys. Like it played out almost
Speaker 8: verbatim as it did in the movie, except one of
Speaker 8: our friends was the Jodah character in real life, and
Speaker 8: I was one of the guys.
Speaker 7: Who was like, what is that, Like, what's on your
Speaker 7: leg there? And that's what happened.
Speaker 8: And so, yeah, it was a school dance and we
Speaker 8: all put our stuff in like the locker room in
Speaker 8: the gym locker room like before, and we were getting
Speaker 8: it after the dance and yeah, and like one of
Speaker 8: our friends was like, did you spill it yourself? And
Speaker 8: I think we were there like looking at it and
Speaker 8: then and then what happened?
Speaker 7: And we kind of allude to this to the movies.
Speaker 8: We noticed on the other side of the locker room
Speaker 8: there was another group of guys having the exact same
Speaker 8: conversation and they were all like looking at their friend's legs,
Speaker 8: poking at me like what is that?
Speaker 7: Did you spill themselves?
Speaker 8: And then like the two groups like locked eyes from
Speaker 8: across the room and it was like this, guys are
Speaker 8: so same moment where it was like, oh.
Speaker 7: No, I think we have a situation on our.
Speaker 8: And then there was a lot of like cross referencing
Speaker 8: who they had danced with and.
Speaker 1: Wait, I got a preface for two people who haven't
Speaker 1: not seen Super Bad. There's there's a crucial scene where
Speaker 1: there's a dance sort of grindy dance moment in which
Speaker 1: a girl rubs her crouch on Jonah Hills. I think
Speaker 1: it's pronounced I forgot inside, unbeknown that Jonah Hill is
Speaker 1: thighs or his jeans are now maroon five.
Speaker 7: Yes, they got period, their bloody period, it happened.
Speaker 1: Oh wait, you're just getting that now.
Speaker 3: I just remember I thought I couldn't remember if k
Speaker 3: on himself.
Speaker 7: Or also on the table, the waking about it that.
Speaker 1: Was in long shot almost.
Speaker 6: You know.
Speaker 1: My favorite thing about I visit a lot of local
Speaker 1: comedy houses in New York. My favorite thing is actually
Speaker 1: watching people bomb yeahfl no, no, no, only because like
Speaker 1: now I'm entering the stage of my life where I'm
Speaker 1: i have to give a lot more public addressing, and
Speaker 1: it's always how you handle yourself in that moment that
Speaker 1: separates the men from the boys. So a lot of times,
Speaker 1: like if you watch if you go to like I
Speaker 1: love going to the store in LA when it's the
Speaker 1: like the one am show, the very last show, and
Speaker 1: usually like the last three people's are always like the doorman,
Speaker 1: the bell guy like okay, I'll let you go up
Speaker 1: and do five minutes, like everyone's left the room.
Speaker 7: I performed there at that time when I was like
Speaker 7: sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: Because I feel in my mind that whenever I'm watching them,
Speaker 1: then I believe at one point either not Jerar Carmichael
Speaker 1: who's the guy that I liked Neighbors nigh Yeah, Jamar
Speaker 1: Nighbors was one of those guys and he's hilarious, Like
Speaker 1: he's one of Jerari Carmichael's dudes. But like it's always
Speaker 1: the last three people on the late the Graveyard shift
Speaker 1: that I love watching them the most to see how
Speaker 1: they adjust to it. Have you, when you were in
Speaker 1: sort of developing your skills or whatnot, have you ever
Speaker 1: had to resort to what they would call the what's
Speaker 1: the syndrome? Uh, like aristocrat syndrome or when you know
Speaker 1: that you've done a bad set and you're just performing
Speaker 1: for your buds, like, oah, I fucked up in always
Speaker 1: did everyone do the aristocrats? It was at another thing
Speaker 1: where I.
Speaker 8: Never did that specifically, but there was I mean, yeah,
Speaker 8: shit would go bad and there was and there would
Speaker 8: be times yeah where you would just kind of throw
Speaker 8: it all out and it was like a yeah, Like,
Speaker 8: I think managing the audience's discomfort is something that is
Speaker 8: a lesson that I learned at a young age, and
Speaker 8: that like, you can carry with you across many different
Speaker 8: avenues of life.
Speaker 7: And I think that that's something that is very valuable
Speaker 7: and I did it, Yeah, I remember doing. But my
Speaker 7: friends could never come watch.
Speaker 8: Me though, because I was a kid and they weren't
Speaker 8: allowed it to the club, so it was always strangers.
Speaker 8: But I had times when it's group tablesful adults, we
Speaker 8: get up and leave. It was terrible and they I
Speaker 8: remember performing at the Impro. I remember coming to La
Speaker 8: to audition for the Just for Last Festival when I
Speaker 8: was like fifteen and going to the improv and Jerry
Speaker 8: Seinfeld decided to drop in at the Just for Last
Speaker 8: stand up comedy showcase went on right before me.
Speaker 7: Fucking annihilated when that happened.
Speaker 1: When the big star comes in, it's like, hey, I
Speaker 1: want to practice that thirty.
Speaker 7: Comedy show on a fucking showcase.
Speaker 3: Did you ever get to tell Jerry what he did
Speaker 3: to you?
Speaker 7: Yes? He could not have been more indifferent.
Speaker 8: And then I went up after him, and I literally,
Speaker 8: like to this day, remember standing on the stage and
Speaker 8: it being so quiet. I could hear the electric hum
Speaker 8: of the and I'd been doing stand up for years
Speaker 8: at that point and I had never heard that sound.
Speaker 8: I remember like thinking to myself, like wow, like have
Speaker 8: the speaker's always been making that sound?
Speaker 7: And I just haven't heard it or do These ones
Speaker 7: had like a particularly loud but I just remember hearing
Speaker 7: like I was like, oh that's a new one. Yeah.
Speaker 7: It was brutal.
Speaker 8: So at the time I didn't get into the just
Speaker 8: for last festival, Jerry, Yes, could.
Speaker 1: You explain how you got inside of the I guess
Speaker 1: the mafia of the what I call the app Town mafia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean it was all I I. I was doing
Speaker 1: stand up and I got an agent through stand up
Speaker 1: and I was like sixteen or seventeen until high school
Speaker 1: was like gonna end, and I like was not gonna
Speaker 1: go to college.
Speaker 7: So I was like, I should I need money, so
Speaker 7: I should start trying to audition for things.
Speaker 8: And my plan, if you asked me that point where
Speaker 8: my plan was, I'll be like, oh, I'll moved to
Speaker 8: LA after high school and I'll try to do stand
Speaker 8: up And so.
Speaker 1: You wanted to be a straight up stand up coming, Yeah,
Speaker 1: And then.
Speaker 8: I thought maybe I'll get like on like a sitcom
Speaker 8: that was kind of like the only precedent of that
Speaker 8: in that time. That was like the thing that seemed
Speaker 8: the most achievable because it was like Seinfeld was on
Speaker 8: like everybody loves Raymon and Martin like that. Like at
Speaker 8: the time, it seemed like if you were a successful
Speaker 8: stand up, you got a sitcom. And I always liked
Speaker 8: movies more and so that was always something that I
Speaker 8: like wanted, but it wasn't as like it didn't seem
Speaker 8: it seemed like the types of movies I wanted to
Speaker 8: make at that time especially were like very small, independent movies,
Speaker 8: And at that time, Super Bad seemed like it would
Speaker 8: be like like Rushmore, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 8: not in its artfulness, but just in its scope, you know.
Speaker 8: And I think that then I moved so I auditioned
Speaker 8: for Freaking Geeks. Was a second audition I got out
Speaker 8: sent out on and they auditioned kids out of Vancouver,
Speaker 8: like they did international.
Speaker 1: Wait, you all were from Vancouver.
Speaker 7: No, they did international.
Speaker 8: So they auditioned in New York, in Chicago and Boston
Speaker 8: and Toronto and Vancouver, and I like, I went in
Speaker 8: for an audition one morning in Vancouver and and then
Speaker 8: I got it.
Speaker 7: And then I moved to LA and uh.
Speaker 1: I watched I watched that show in the first man,
Speaker 1: don't let people. I know people now like to revision it,
Speaker 1: like yo, man, freaking gigs with my ship man. You're like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: well but it was then why why don't watch it?
Speaker 7: Well?
Speaker 1: I watched it because during the time of us recording,
Speaker 1: Uh do you want more? Yeah, there was always a
Speaker 1: TV on the break.
Speaker 7: Yeah. So that's how I.
Speaker 1: Remember freaking geeks. That was my favorite. I thought, oh man,
Speaker 1: this is way better than my so called life years Damn.
Speaker 3: I was just thinking about that as he was talking shit, I.
Speaker 1: Get away like, were you excited of the the critical
Speaker 1: claim it got?
Speaker 7: And did you?
Speaker 8: I had no, Like I was like a seventeen year
Speaker 8: old pothead from Vancouver who, like I had no concept
Speaker 8: of any of that shit, Like I remember Pee being
Speaker 8: like you're in a business man, yet I just didn't.
Speaker 7: I think I was. So I was.
Speaker 8: I was really confident and I felt like everything like
Speaker 8: when someone's like yours everyone loves your show, like it
Speaker 8: has one hundred percent good reviews.
Speaker 7: I was like, yeah, it's fucking.
Speaker 8: Great, like like it wasn't like really, it was like,
Speaker 8: of course we're putting out great shit, like there's nothing
Speaker 8: like this on TV, like of course everyone like and
Speaker 8: if anything, that made it more frustrating that no one
Speaker 8: was watching it because like we knew it was good,
Speaker 8: and that's like I look back on and like, I
Speaker 8: didn't even think of the quality of the show when
Speaker 8: I went and did it, Like I it could have
Speaker 8: been the word Like I was just like a job,
Speaker 8: I'll take it. And then I remember getting to la
Speaker 8: and to shoot the pilot and it wasn't even until
Speaker 8: then that I got the full script, like the day
Speaker 8: before we started filming, and then I remember reading it
Speaker 8: and being like, oh, there's like jokes about shrooms in
Speaker 8: here and shit like that. And then we rehearsed for
Speaker 8: one day and they were like, what would you say here?
Speaker 8: And then all of a sudden we were improvising and
Speaker 8: they were letting us add jokes about Hitler and all
Speaker 8: this stuff, and we were like, this is really different.
Speaker 8: And then when we started shooting it, we were like
Speaker 8: again Like the director was from the independent film world,
Speaker 8: Jake Kasden had just made Zero Effect, which was a
Speaker 8: movie I was a big fan of. So it was like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 8: we have like these writers and directors who were like
Speaker 8: doing the exact stuff that I liked. So when it
Speaker 8: turned out great, it was like again I was So
Speaker 8: I was really like spoiled at that time because I
Speaker 8: was just like, yeah, you make something.
Speaker 1: So you together, like, oh, they creator the Larry Sanders
Speaker 1: Show has this new.
Speaker 7: Knew that, but I didn't.
Speaker 8: Again, I didn't realize, I think, how like I didn't
Speaker 8: realize a how just because you did something good before,
Speaker 8: it doesn't mean you'll keep doing things that everyone appreciates.
Speaker 7: Like I was a fan of the Larry.
Speaker 8: Sanders Show, a huge fan and grew up watching it,
Speaker 8: and but I didn't, like I think when I took
Speaker 8: the when I first got cast on the show, I
Speaker 8: had no idea jud it even I didn't know judge.
Speaker 1: What was I know?
Speaker 8: Judd worked on Larry Sanders Show. There was no IMDb
Speaker 8: at this time, Like there was no way to look
Speaker 8: up you were working with Evan. Yeah, like I had
Speaker 8: no idea the internet. Yeah, there was no like work
Speaker 8: Maybe there's IMDb, but I didn't know how to use it. Yeah,
Speaker 8: there was no like organized way of checking any of
Speaker 8: that shit.
Speaker 3: This is like and did James Franklin didn't even hit
Speaker 3: the soap shit right?
Speaker 8: Like no, it was like no one had done any
Speaker 8: and so yeah it was. But then it started Eric
Speaker 8: as we were shooting, and then they just were like,
Speaker 8: no one's watching this ship and it was on set
Speaker 8: Saturday night at eight or some shit like that against cops.
Speaker 8: I remember Judge like joking, like cops beats us. We're
Speaker 8: fucked and they cops beat us.
Speaker 1: And he was, no, So what are you gunnry about Undeclared?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 1: Because again I was did you feel like, okay, well,
Speaker 1: we'll do a better version.
Speaker 8: I was like, oh, this time, we'll do like a
Speaker 8: more commercial version and we kind of work out the
Speaker 8: kinks and like again it was like the exact same
Speaker 8: thing happened where it was like very critically acclaimed and
Speaker 8: then no one watched it.
Speaker 1: But but that, but I was.
Speaker 8: I was thrilled, honestly, like I was a writer and
Speaker 8: an actor on Undeclared. I was eighteen years old, Like
Speaker 8: it was, you know, it was like a very exciting
Speaker 8: thing for me to be doing.
Speaker 1: So, uh, how hard is it living hands and mouth
Speaker 1: in that period? Because I are you, well.
Speaker 3: Feel like has he never had a did you ever
Speaker 3: have a regular job or anything?
Speaker 7: Well? I after Undeclared, I didn't work for like three
Speaker 7: or four years. Basicly, what did you do? I fucking
Speaker 7: spent very little.
Speaker 6: Money, but you still never have to work at piece
Speaker 6: of head or be a server and I would help.
Speaker 8: Judd was very nice and he would get these super
Speaker 8: high priced rewriting jobs and then he would give me
Speaker 8: a little to help him do it. So like I
Speaker 8: helped rewrite Bad Boys Too. As an example, Wait, time out.
Speaker 8: First of all, that its out, yes, so it's like
Speaker 8: a secret thing. We wrote that joke, and that was
Speaker 8: in the trailer where they're singing the song and they
Speaker 8: forget the word they like don't know the words like.
Speaker 7: Oh yeah, yeah and yeah.
Speaker 8: It was like, yeah, we that was one of the
Speaker 8: many things we did so maintenance work.
Speaker 1: So what else did you do?
Speaker 8: Little things here and there? Like uh, one of the
Speaker 8: Big Mama's House movies I helped on for a few days.
Speaker 6: Wait, in this moment, I was I saying this because
Speaker 6: I know my whole family gonna get mad at me.
Speaker 3: But in this moment, are you understanding your white funny man?
Speaker 3: Because you know that you are like you like this
Speaker 3: is a seriously it's a serious question. Like nobody else.
Speaker 6: If you hear the struggles of other comedians and things
Speaker 6: and other colors, women, da da da dah, there is
Speaker 6: never a moment where they haven't had to like serve
Speaker 6: or do something that they didn't want to do.
Speaker 3: But it seems like since you.
Speaker 6: Were fourteen years old, Yeah, you was on it. You
Speaker 6: needed final draft, you had it, you needed the camera,
Speaker 6: you had it. You this is any moment did you
Speaker 6: realize this?
Speaker 8: I was super, Yes, I was. I was very Yeah.
Speaker 8: I was never felt particularly downtrodden. I was very I
Speaker 8: felt lucky. I was very I always felt lucky and
Speaker 8: was very fortunate and like and and got that.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 8: I mean there was a time when I was maybe
Speaker 8: gonna like but there was a moment I was like
Speaker 8: I might have to move back to Vancouver because I
Speaker 8: was just running out of money and couldn't afford to
Speaker 8: live in la anymore. And that's when I got hired
Speaker 8: on the Ali g Show. And that like continue that
Speaker 8: like yeah, it was like a great It was like
Speaker 8: a great job to have because like it was even
Speaker 8: it was like it sounded great in a room, Like
Speaker 8: it was like when we went on meetings and we
Speaker 8: were like, oh we got yeah, we got dominated for Emmys.
Speaker 7: That was great.
Speaker 8: Like it was something that like basically I haven't stopped
Speaker 8: working since that. It was like that was like the
Speaker 8: thing that kind of kept me going.
Speaker 1: Because his brand of comedy sasa veryon cornet because he's
Speaker 1: such a rogue, yeah, kind of artsy comedian. How do
Speaker 1: you find his voice?
Speaker 8: It was kind of Uh, it was hard, and I
Speaker 8: think he liked and I think it was good that
Speaker 8: we were so young and malleable at this time when
Speaker 8: we were working for him, Like we were like twenty
Speaker 8: two or something like that, and so like he could
Speaker 8: really I think without some of like the kid gloves
Speaker 8: you would use with older people, being.
Speaker 7: Like, here's what you have to do, here's.
Speaker 1: What we do.
Speaker 7: Do exactly fucking this and nothing else. Forget everything, you know,
Speaker 7: just do this.
Speaker 8: So like yeah, and and and he would literally lock
Speaker 8: us in a room and be like write two hundred
Speaker 8: interview questions for me to be interviewing like an environmentalist
Speaker 8: in a tree, like and like, don't come out of
Speaker 8: that room till you've written me two hundred questions.
Speaker 3: Well he did.
Speaker 8: Yeah, we came on for Bruno and then we went
Speaker 8: on the road with him. We went to spring Break,
Speaker 8: We did all the spring Break stuff with Bruno. It
Speaker 8: was insane. He almost got killed. What happens when you
Speaker 8: go to like Daytona beach yeah, it was crazy. What's
Speaker 8: funny is I had to kind of hide because I
Speaker 8: was not famous, but I was like one in every hundred.
Speaker 8: People knew me from freaks and geeks, and so I
Speaker 8: was kind of had to like I was like relegated
Speaker 8: to the hotel room because like they were. He was
Speaker 8: just like the chance that zone sees you and puts
Speaker 8: two and two together is like two great. So, like
Speaker 8: we would travel from city to city and me and
Speaker 8: Evan would literally just sit in a hotel room and
Speaker 8: whatever city we were in and like and pray.
Speaker 1: They come back alive.
Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 8: They would come back and they would show us the
Speaker 8: footage of what they had done that day and we
Speaker 8: would all just laugh hysterically and be amazed that they
Speaker 8: hadn't gotten killed, and like it was.
Speaker 7: It was fun. Yeah, it was great. Wow.
Speaker 1: All right, So I have so many questions about your movies,
Speaker 1: but I'm afraid we'll just get stuck in one of them.
Speaker 7: Yeah, but.
Speaker 3: This is it, I mean yeah, one, yes, well, I
Speaker 3: mean there's.
Speaker 1: So many, but I will say that for you know,
Speaker 1: foty year old Virgin was to me, like, how how
Speaker 1: much input are you given for scripts? Or how open
Speaker 1: is Judd to having you guys adjust the comedy the
Speaker 1: way that it looked. It almost seemed like, oh, this
Speaker 1: got to be on the spot, and he just say
Speaker 1: keep the cameras rolling.
Speaker 7: A lot of it was improvised.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I was, I would say, like, because super Bad
Speaker 8: had been written and no one would make it, and
Speaker 8: same with Pineapple Express, so you was still shopping it actively.
Speaker 8: And me and Evan and my especially because Evan was
Speaker 8: in college at the time and wasn't there all the time.
Speaker 8: Like I was always like, people want to see a
Speaker 8: movie where people talk like this, like more than anything.
Speaker 8: That's what I had a strong feeling of, was like,
Speaker 8: they want a comedy where people where it's conversational and
Speaker 8: not so like plucky and jokey, and it just feels
Speaker 8: like people talking, they're swearing a lot, and and and
Speaker 8: like it's like taking like again because we grew up
Speaker 8: loving pulp fiction and clerks, and we were just like,
Speaker 8: if you can really gear that towards like comedy and
Speaker 8: like in a great way, and and since no one
Speaker 8: would make super Bad, jud Like and me and him
Speaker 8: together just thought that if we could make these the
Speaker 8: guys who work in the store kind of be almost
Speaker 8: like it's almost almost like a weird testing ground for
Speaker 8: like that type of conversational comedy, whereas Corel's character was
Speaker 8: this like sweet.
Speaker 7: Kind of like island.
Speaker 8: In the middle of the movie, we were like, if
Speaker 8: we can make these guys like, why don't we try
Speaker 8: this where we improvise and have it be very conversational
Speaker 8: and you guys can swear a lot and say all
Speaker 8: the sick shit you say to each other that makes
Speaker 8: each other laugh behind the scenes, but we never say
Speaker 8: it on camera because always like that's too much, that's
Speaker 8: too crazy, or people won't like that. But we were like,
Speaker 8: what if we do that on camera, you know? And
Speaker 8: that was really like the first time that any of
Speaker 8: us had done that, I think, like it was they
Speaker 8: had done Anchorman, where it was it was different though,
Speaker 8: because the movie is tonally not real, so like it's
Speaker 8: not they improvised a lot, but it wasn't like actual
Speaker 8: conversations because it's like under this umbrella of like a
Speaker 8: false reality, you know. But this was the first time
Speaker 8: where it was literally like you can just say whatever
Speaker 8: you think you would say in this situation and there's
Speaker 8: no rating, like and we had never played in that environment.
Speaker 7: Before, and it was really the first time where we
Speaker 7: were all like, oh, we can really let it rip.
Speaker 8: And I remember the I had improvised that thing about
Speaker 8: going to Tijuana and like seeing a woman fucking a horse,
Speaker 8: and it's like it's like he comes into the or
Speaker 8: he comes it's like Corel comes into work and he
Speaker 8: explained making an egg salad sandwich and he's like, what
Speaker 8: did you do this weekend? I'm like, oh, I went
Speaker 8: to Tijuana. We went to see this woman horse and
Speaker 8: like it was not that cool, like it was kind
Speaker 8: of gross. Uh and and I remember like and it
Speaker 8: was like pretty it was like on the scale of
Speaker 8: like the types of things people were saying in movies.
Speaker 7: At that time, on like the very far end of
Speaker 7: the spectrum, which is that's.
Speaker 1: Why I asked you about the aristocrats exactly.
Speaker 8: Yeah, and so that and we were just making each
Speaker 8: other laugh and I remember before the first screening we
Speaker 8: were like if people like, if that works, then like
Speaker 8: then we're fine. Like then all these instincts we have
Speaker 8: of like what people want might be right. And I
Speaker 8: remember like it was like like on like that moment
Speaker 8: was like a life changing moment in many ways, like
Speaker 8: sitting in the theater when that part came on for
Speaker 8: the first time and seeing the audience just like explode
Speaker 8: in laughter, and like you could see it was just
Speaker 8: like shocking to them, but all so funny and also
Speaker 8: felt kind of real. And I remember so many people
Speaker 8: come up to me after we came out and be like,
Speaker 8: you remind me so much of a guy I used
Speaker 8: to work with, or you remind me so much of
Speaker 8: this weirdo who was in the back room at this
Speaker 8: place I would go to and like and and and
Speaker 8: you could see that we were kind of like tapping
Speaker 8: into this like relatable form of comedy that people, you know,
Speaker 8: at that time, it was like Dumb and Dumber, which
Speaker 8: I love, like it's one of my favorite movies ever,
Speaker 8: but it is not relatable, natural li stick conversational comedy.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 8: It's huge, crazy gags and very specifically like written in
Speaker 8: staged bits right and very smart.
Speaker 6: Can I just give you credit to for putting an
Speaker 6: actor in their lesser known name Kevin hart Hart, the
Speaker 6: dude Jared. I want to say his name right, Jerry.
Speaker 6: He's funny, the Indian guy who's just stopped everywhere.
Speaker 1: Is he okay?
Speaker 7: He is Okay. The other guy Okay, Jerry's fine.
Speaker 3: One that was working in the store that was kept
Speaker 3: saying nasty ship.
Speaker 7: Yes, about mixed up with the other guy. The other
Speaker 7: guy who still be in jail is in jail.
Speaker 8: Okay, okay, yeah, making sure, making sure Ry's great.
Speaker 7: Yeah, Kevin Hart was great. Attempted jail.
Speaker 1: That happened because murder is bad, and I.
Speaker 7: Do not like murder.
Speaker 8: You know the conversations on the South when you have
Speaker 8: to explain that you're feeling is murderous.
Speaker 7: Back, let me just clarify murders.
Speaker 1: Back Sokay, succeed.
Speaker 7: What I'm succeeding.
Speaker 1: What I want to ask is, when you got the
Speaker 1: pitch for knocked Up? Yes, how is it pitched to
Speaker 1: you so that you wouldn't take it personally? Because the
Speaker 1: thing is because because the underhand tone of what knocked
Speaker 1: Up really is is we're gonna pair this hot girl.
Speaker 7: With like you, I told you, it's something.
Speaker 1: It's a joke. I was, but I appreciate you because
Speaker 1: you I was in on the joke, right, That's the thing.
Speaker 8: How do you not do the person I think and
Speaker 8: what I always I would actually think that like one
Speaker 8: of the first other pieces of advice. A stand up
Speaker 8: comic Gamy, when I was like thirteen, was like, whatever,
Speaker 8: what's funny is this stand up comic looked exactly like
Speaker 8: Garth from Wayne's World. Like he was like a super
Speaker 8: skinny dude with long blonde hair and glasses. And he
Speaker 8: was like whatever. He's like, you have to let the
Speaker 8: audience know that you are self aware or they'll be uncomfortable.
Speaker 8: And he's like, so if there's something about you that
Speaker 8: reads very obviously like, don't ignore that thing, Like let
Speaker 8: them know you are more aware of it than they
Speaker 8: could ever imagine. And he was like, He's like, my
Speaker 8: whole opening five minutes is about that I look like Garth.
Speaker 8: Like I fucking get it. And so I was always
Speaker 8: aware that I came across as like a schlubby, kind
Speaker 8: of stonery loser, and I was not. I wasn't in
Speaker 8: any way way self conscious about representing myself like that, because.
Speaker 7: I knew I was not that you got super confidence.
Speaker 7: I was highly productive.
Speaker 8: I could date women like that that were that were
Speaker 8: well out of my league on a physical level. I like,
Speaker 8: I had a job, I would game, I had a
Speaker 8: nice apartment, I had a nice car, like I was
Speaker 8: like at that point, like getting successful, you know, So
Speaker 8: it was not it was funny to me. And I
Speaker 8: remember jud we kept pitching these like crazy movies, mean,
Speaker 8: and we were trying to make Pineapple Express. We're like
Speaker 8: wanting a big action movie, and he was like that,
Speaker 8: Like He's like, you first just have to make something
Speaker 8: that like establishes who you are in the most like normal,
Speaker 8: relatable type of setting. And he just said it conversationally
Speaker 8: one day. It was literally like like like if you
Speaker 8: got a girl pregnant on the first date or something like,
Speaker 8: that's the type of movie we should make. And it
Speaker 8: was one of those things where it was like, oh,
Speaker 8: we actually could. That's actually a really good idea.
Speaker 7: What would that be like?
Speaker 8: Like and him and his wife had got pregnant very
Speaker 8: early on in their relationship, and I think had to
Speaker 8: make some quick decisions as to whether or not they
Speaker 8: were going to kind of stay together and give it
Speaker 8: a go, you know, are just or what the just
Speaker 8: what the dynamics of the relationship were gonna be, you
Speaker 8: know what I mean, I think.
Speaker 7: They weren't planning on having a kid at that time.
Speaker 8: From my understanding, yes, exactly, Leslie's great, yeah, very funny,
Speaker 8: and so it was yeah, so it was personal. It
Speaker 8: was personal to me because and I think the way
Speaker 8: that we were able to represent my living situation especially
Speaker 8: was highly personal to me. And all the roommates and
Speaker 8: and all those guys were actually my friends, and I
Speaker 8: actually had lived with almost all of them at one
Speaker 8: point or another, and so like it did seem like
Speaker 8: I really yeah, yeah, I was totally happy with it
Speaker 8: and thought I would be funny with it, you know,
Speaker 8: And there was a thing where I was just I
Speaker 8: remember being like, oh, I can just make this guy
Speaker 8: like worse and worse and worse.
Speaker 7: Like like just dumber and dumber and dumber.
Speaker 8: And it's almost like the bower inappropriate, like the worst
Speaker 8: thing I could say on a date almost is like
Speaker 8: the funnier the whole movie becomes so yeah.
Speaker 1: Wow, Okay, well I mean okay, well, yeah, I'll guess
Speaker 1: I'll ask. Okay, you don't have to, no, no, no,
Speaker 1: it's not that I'm just saying that, is there ever?
Speaker 7: Fear?
Speaker 1: Okay. I go to thirty Rock University and all that entails,
Speaker 1: you know. So I'm in in the iosorum. It's it's
Speaker 1: a university sess and now it's a big giant campus.
Speaker 7: In cathedral to which entertainment is built.
Speaker 1: So when you're how hard is it, in your opinion,
Speaker 1: how hard is it for women to get a seat
Speaker 1: at the table?
Speaker 7: Insanely hard, way harder, And in.
Speaker 1: Light of what's happening now and how comedy sort of
Speaker 1: has to re examine itself and what was cool in
Speaker 1: two thousand and six might get a raised eyebrow, Now,
Speaker 1: how has.
Speaker 7: That eighteen we get a raised eyebrow out?
Speaker 1: Yeah, so how does that affect not not how does
Speaker 1: it affect your world, but how does it affect the
Speaker 1: creative process, the fraternity process?
Speaker 3: Yeah, where's the woman in the in the team?
Speaker 7: We have women on our team?
Speaker 1: But are you more or is it the climate right
Speaker 1: now in Hollywood? Are they super aware of it now where.
Speaker 7: They say they are?
Speaker 8: But I don't think a lot has changed. And if
Speaker 8: you look at the movies that come out, almost all
Speaker 8: of them are made by white dudes, like you know,
Speaker 8: like it's very like not that the actual like decision
Speaker 8: to spend hundreds of millions of dollars in a new
Speaker 8: social direction has not happened. I don't think I think
Speaker 8: people are talking about it. And it's like a topic
Speaker 8: of conversation that's like fun for people to say. And
Speaker 8: I think there's they're like inching towards that. But have
Speaker 8: I seen like, oh, all of a sudden, if you
Speaker 8: look at the slate of every major studio and they're all.
Speaker 7: More equally distributed between men and women.
Speaker 6: No, that's not the case at all women, And I
Speaker 6: think that that.
Speaker 7: But I think for us, I think we're lucky with
Speaker 7: comedy for us because we never like pedaled in that.
Speaker 8: I don't think like we never pedled in something that
Speaker 8: I would have considered to be like, you know, I
Speaker 8: think our comedy like I'm never complaining that, like about
Speaker 8: like people being PC or like we can't say the
Speaker 8: stuff that we want to be able to say. Like
Speaker 8: to me, that is like not an issue, and like
Speaker 8: you're either the type of person that like you want
Speaker 8: your you know, your work reflects who you are no
Speaker 8: matter what, and so if you have your sensibilities trying
Speaker 8: to be in the right place at any given moment,
Speaker 8: then your work will reflect that. And I've found myself
Speaker 8: not really having to defend that much of what I've
Speaker 8: done in the moment that it has come out. I
Speaker 8: acknowledge that again a week later you look back and
Speaker 8: you're like, WHOA, that's age poorly. Sometimes you know, like yeah,
Speaker 8: I think there's jokes and sausage party that like twenty
Speaker 8: four hours after it came out, we're inappropriate. So maybe
Speaker 8: twenty four hours before it came out. But I think that,
Speaker 8: you know, we we try not to be offensive, We
Speaker 8: try not to exclude people in our work. We try
Speaker 8: to be inclusive as possible, and and and we ourselves
Speaker 8: are those types of people. So it isn't this like
Speaker 8: chore to weave that into our work.
Speaker 1: And so lets just know that people now are hyper
Speaker 1: aware that that has to happen or that has to
Speaker 1: be a thing, whereas you know before you don't think like, okay,
Speaker 1: it might be inclusive. Am I in finding this group
Speaker 1: or that group?
Speaker 8: I think that, I think anthing we're trying to be
Speaker 8: aware of for the last few years. I think Neighbors
Speaker 8: is the first movie that we really made really trying
Speaker 8: to go into it acknowledging that traditionally, especially that type
Speaker 8: of relationship that mean rose like a husband wife, really
Speaker 8: relationship in a movie is like always done a certain way,
Speaker 8: and we had to not do that and like it's
Speaker 8: always based on the fact that they hate each other
Speaker 8: and that they're not happy, and that there's all this
Speaker 8: conflict in their relationship and that she's fucking lame most
Speaker 8: of the time and that like he's like the carefree,
Speaker 8: fun one and she's yeah, and like so that was
Speaker 8: I think the and it was before all this, you know,
Speaker 8: all the current you know, kind of revelations that are happening.
Speaker 8: But even then we were like, just how do we
Speaker 8: not do this in a lame way, you know? And
Speaker 8: how do we And also like, we want the actors
Speaker 8: in the movie to be proud and happy with their work.
Speaker 8: And I think as someone who is both an actor
Speaker 8: and a writer and a director and a producer, like
Speaker 8: I I understand what all those jobs entail, and I
Speaker 8: understand what it takes to make all the people doing
Speaker 8: those jobs feel like they're really doing something that they
Speaker 8: can be proud of and happy with. And that's something
Speaker 8: that was just started to become very important when I
Speaker 8: started to realize, like, oh, like if we cast Rose
Speaker 8: Burn in this role, we have to make it good
Speaker 8: and funny, and we have to make her excited to
Speaker 8: come into work every day, and we have to make
Speaker 8: it that when she leaves work at the end of
Speaker 8: the day, she really felt like she was as funny
Speaker 8: as anyone else and given the opportunity to be as
Speaker 8: funny as anyone else, not like she was told, like
Speaker 8: you tell us to shut up as we say funny
Speaker 8: shit over here, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: How does that work? Okay? So how does that work?
Speaker 1: Like break it down like in third grade? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: So if you're heading a project, yeah, and you have
Speaker 1: to write for a specific character that you might not
Speaker 1: really have put a lot of effort or you know,
Speaker 1: like what's their background? And first of all, when you
Speaker 1: write for a character or write for a movie, does
Speaker 1: each character have to have their own bio in your mind?
Speaker 8: Like to some degree, I think like backstory, Yeah, I
Speaker 8: think to some degree. I think it's it depends on
Speaker 8: how in like what's funny is like in this is
Speaker 8: the end? Like none of us really have any backstory, Like.
Speaker 7: We're kind of just who you assume we are and you.
Speaker 8: Slowly and the emotional conflicts are very of the moment.
Speaker 8: It's based on you know, you're seeing it play out
Speaker 8: in real time basically, so, but in general, yes, like
Speaker 8: some sense of backstory is is helpful and the more
Speaker 8: you can think of, the more it's probably good. But
Speaker 8: for I think for something like Neighbors, the conversations were
Speaker 8: literally like, how do we create a plot and a
Speaker 8: flow of events where that isn't contingent on these two
Speaker 8: characters having conflict with one another and instead is contingent
Speaker 8: on these two characters really being on the same team
Speaker 8: as one another, And right away that allowed both characters
Speaker 8: to be outrageous and silly and stupid, and neither one
Speaker 8: was trying to control the other. If anything, they were
Speaker 8: always like encouraging the other to do stupidor and stupider
Speaker 8: shit kind of. And so it's more understanding the dynamics
Speaker 8: going in and what the result that will do. So
Speaker 8: it's like, if we go into the movie with this
Speaker 8: type of dynamic, the result will be this, And if
Speaker 8: we go and do with this type dnamic, the result
Speaker 8: will be this. And so that's something we were aware of,
Speaker 8: is like, if we want the result to be this,
Speaker 8: the dynamic has to be very specific going into it,
Speaker 8: you know, And that that's what we tried to do.
Speaker 1: So kind of a three part question. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: now in your career. What is your preference. Would you
Speaker 1: rather lean towards directing a project or writing a project
Speaker 1: to give to someone else to direct, or what I
Speaker 1: would just say, blind job, as in doing a project
Speaker 1: that you neither had no directing or no hand in
Speaker 1: writing it.
Speaker 8: I do that less and less, Like I don't act
Speaker 8: in a lot of other people's movies. I don't get
Speaker 8: asked a lot of other people's movies. But vehicles, Yeah, yes.
Speaker 7: Exactly, But yeah, so it happens, and I do do it.
Speaker 8: Sometimes I think what I'm what I really enjoy is
Speaker 8: writing something with the hopes that I will direct it
Speaker 8: and act in it, which has happened.
Speaker 1: You want to wear all three hats?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Is that a nightmare?
Speaker 8: No, it's it's almost at a weird thing We've also
Speaker 8: found is, in some ways, the more control we have
Speaker 8: over something and the more jobs we are feeling, the
Speaker 8: less stressful it ultimately is because most of our stress
Speaker 8: comes from fear that other people are going to fuck
Speaker 8: our shit up, and so as long as we are
Speaker 8: controlling it, I'm not that worried. I'm more worried is
Speaker 8: the director going to ruin this thing?
Speaker 1: So that leads to this leads to what have you learned?
Speaker 1: What have you what have you learned about? Actually I
Speaker 1: want to do too, what have you learned about? Green Hornet?
Speaker 1: And the Simpsons? Which I think for comedy writer is
Speaker 1: sort of like this this honor of Wow, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: doing this, I'm writing controlling a Simpsons episode. Yeah, So
Speaker 1: what lessons have you learned in those two instances that
Speaker 1: you would have changed now or made you wiser? Yeah?
Speaker 8: I mean green Hornet was and I'm not a no
Speaker 8: no no iconic hid no. Yeah, it's not really Like
Speaker 8: I think a few things when I look back at that.
Speaker 8: One is I really overestimated, like our control at that
Speaker 8: point in our careers. Like I think that at that
Speaker 8: point we had kind of always been able to do
Speaker 8: whatever we wanted, you know, And I didn't predict how
Speaker 8: much a bigger budget, like, but all the movies we'd
Speaker 8: made at that point were like twenty thirty million dollars
Speaker 8: in Green Hornet was like one hundred and twenty million dollars,
Speaker 8: And I didn't quite predict what that hundred million dollars
Speaker 8: would do to the process and how before I would
Speaker 8: we literally wouldn't talk to the studio ever all of
Speaker 8: a sudden, we were having meetings where we go through
Speaker 8: like every page of the script basically and how like
Speaker 8: destructive that was to the process and how Yeah, and
Speaker 8: like the biggest the biggest thing was was like we
Speaker 8: had an idea going into it that was slowly like
Speaker 8: completely you know, deconstructed and built into something else.
Speaker 7: And it's one of those things that happened so slowly that.
Speaker 1: Like so they took your product, yeah, and then said, well,
Speaker 1: we need to change this to make.
Speaker 7: This the exactly what if we did this, Oh, we
Speaker 7: need a big actor for this role and went about
Speaker 7: this and we need this and like but.
Speaker 1: Then with Gandri directing, Yeah, whom I thought.
Speaker 8: Would be good, I think what he and I've seen
Speaker 8: him since then, Like I think what he didn't predict
Speaker 8: also was the scope of it and how And that's
Speaker 8: what because I think with artists and you probably can
Speaker 8: relate to this, Like I think the more you do
Speaker 8: your craft or whatever, the more you realize it's not
Speaker 8: only what you are doing, but it is how you
Speaker 8: were doing it. Like, if you're a painter, you not
Speaker 8: only want to choose what to paint, you want to
Speaker 8: choose what paint you use and you want to make
Speaker 8: your own canvas maybe, and you want to choose where
Speaker 8: you painted and all the.
Speaker 7: Stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 8: But with film it's sometimes that gets wrestled away from you,
Speaker 8: where it's like, here's the shot I want and here's
Speaker 8: how I think we should do it, and they'll be like, Nope,
Speaker 8: too expensive, here's how you're gonna do it, and and that,
Speaker 8: and that ruins the process, especially when you have a
Speaker 8: director like Gondry. And what I realized, I think what
Speaker 8: he realized is like his whole magic is not only
Speaker 8: in what he's doing, it's how he's doing it right.
Speaker 8: It's the materials used, literally, and that did not always
Speaker 8: apply to this scope of filmmaking basically, and uh and
Speaker 8: it was just like uh, an inorganic combination of elements.
Speaker 8: And then there was a point I think where you're
Speaker 8: just kind of like, this seems like it's going poorly.
Speaker 8: I slept terribly throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 1: You felt you felt even during the process, like this
Speaker 1: might not get out good for sure.
Speaker 7: It was like because it was rocky for like the
Speaker 7: year leading up to it. And there was a point
Speaker 7: and this was.
Speaker 8: Also something I would probably do differently now, Like we
Speaker 8: had just spent years working on it, and there's a
Speaker 8: moment where you're like do we stop or just keep going?
Speaker 8: Cause like after years it was it felt weird to
Speaker 8: just stop anywhere. It was just like, I think we
Speaker 8: just have to see this through, like and and that
Speaker 8: is something that I probably wouldn't do now. Honestly, I
Speaker 8: think after that experience, I would just be.
Speaker 7: Like, let's just pull the plug.
Speaker 8: And maybe we all wasted three years, but maybe we
Speaker 8: all learned a lot in that three years and have
Speaker 8: some good experiences. But I think like that's something at
Speaker 8: the time that I wasn't prepared to do, which was
Speaker 8: just say like, you know what, like, let's not fucking
Speaker 8: do this, you know.
Speaker 1: So my parallel question to you is, Okay, now, as
Speaker 1: a person that's been doing what I've been doing at
Speaker 1: least what I'm known for twenty five plus years, you know,
Speaker 1: we kind of had this discussion like are we sabotaging
Speaker 1: ourselves but not like wanting to go to bigger houses. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Like we're now in the place where it's like, hey,
Speaker 1: you guys, do know that we could book a night
Speaker 1: at blah blah blah if you guys have the album
Speaker 1: in time whatever, And my immediate thing was fear, like, no,
Speaker 1: I don't want to play you know, seventeen thousand, da
Speaker 1: da da, because I feel like my zone has always
Speaker 1: been in smaller theaters.
Speaker 7: Yeah, so for you.
Speaker 1: Is is a nine figure budget sort of like a
Speaker 1: dragnet Horns. It's like, like, would you attempt to really
Speaker 1: go big or do you feel that you know when
Speaker 1: you do lower budget stuff?
Speaker 8: Then I think now in order, we're writing a movie
Speaker 8: now that would be expensive, like a pretty expensive movie,
Speaker 8: not quite Green Heart.
Speaker 1: But I mean like a popcorn film, like yes, but
Speaker 1: like a Summer of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but like, but we're really trying to make it
Speaker 8: have all the stuff that we like out of movies,
Speaker 8: but we're trying to make like it's a more it's
Speaker 8: still like an R rated like action comedy basically, but
Speaker 8: we're the types of movies that are in theaters have changed,
Speaker 8: and I think that's something that we're also aware of,
Speaker 8: is we like a lot of what are It's interesting,
Speaker 8: like we work backwards to some degree from like audience reaction,
Speaker 8: and we go to movies and we sit in theaters
Speaker 8: and you know what makes people cheer, and what makes
Speaker 8: people laugh and what makes people shocked, and what makes
Speaker 8: people scared, and that changes over the course of years,
Speaker 8: you know, like the things. You know, there's some movies
Speaker 8: that have come out that ten years ago got a
Speaker 8: certain reaction in theaters, and that same thing would not
Speaker 8: seem very exciting by today's standards, that shocking by today's standards.
Speaker 8: And so we are trying to evolve. We instinctually must
Speaker 8: evolve with the climate. And we like making movies for theaters,
Speaker 8: and we creatively think backwards a lot from what would
Speaker 8: make a theater full of people have like this experience,
Speaker 8: Like what would make a beater ful of people be
Speaker 8: on edge and then excited and then laughing and then
Speaker 8: sad and and and in or. But the theater part
Speaker 8: is the tricky part, because a lot of movies like
Speaker 8: Super Bad today, for example, probably wouldn't be in theaters.
Speaker 8: It be hard to get it in theaters, you know
Speaker 8: what I mean. Knocked Up even would more likely be
Speaker 8: a Netflix movie today. It's just people talking in rooms,
Speaker 8: like there's no you know, there's no big action in it,
Speaker 8: there's no like it's literally people sitting and talking for
Speaker 8: two hours you know, like we go to.
Speaker 1: Circus organically, it wouldn't happen. But I mean, you gotta
Speaker 1: admit that you're coming from the canon of the Uptown Mafia. Yeah,
Speaker 1: so even by six degrees of separation, like you personally
Speaker 1: would have to you would I would think you'd have
Speaker 1: to release eight bona fide below ten rotten to me
Speaker 1: before I'm like, nah, I ain't seen Seth Morgan.
Speaker 7: You know, not all horror movies do well.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, like but even man, I'm I'm
Speaker 1: aware of it, it's still yeah, there's still some thing
Speaker 1: where it's like, oh, you're in it.
Speaker 7: It might be good.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, it's out there, but it's still like
Speaker 8: it's harder to get movies in theaters and it's harder
Speaker 8: to compete for the cultural attention like that, I think,
Speaker 8: and that to us is very important also is we
Speaker 8: like it when we make We've seen that in the past.
Speaker 8: We've made movies that like work their way into culture
Speaker 8: and they're referenced in rap songs and in other movies
Speaker 8: and on TV shows, and we like that, like we
Speaker 8: And that's not always a one to one thing with
Speaker 8: like success, it's just you know, It's something that only
Speaker 8: happens though, really with movies that are in theaters, like
Speaker 8: movies on Netflix, it's are just streaming movies. It's much
Speaker 8: harder for them to capture a piece of the culture.
Speaker 8: And a movie like Mid Nineties, which was seen probably
Speaker 8: by one iota the amount of people that sees the
Speaker 8: average Netflix movie, capture the cultural attention in a way
Speaker 8: that very few Netflix movies do because it was in
Speaker 8: theaters and when people saw it, they turn their phone
Speaker 8: off for two hours and they sat in a dark
Speaker 8: room and they actually.
Speaker 7: Watch it, and you don't do that with Netflix movies.
Speaker 8: And I think that is going to become when I
Speaker 8: look at why I want movies and theaters.
Speaker 3: That is it like, But that's not all the way true.
Speaker 6: Those stuff I was gonna tell you, Like some certain
Speaker 6: movies command you to turn off the lights, watch watched,
Speaker 6: like when The Irishman was one of those.
Speaker 3: This season, Dolomite was one of those seasons. It just depends.
Speaker 7: I think.
Speaker 1: First, some people they choose to watch Every Friend's just
Speaker 1: gonna have Nero Patino.
Speaker 3: It's the same thing with dol But there are stranger things.
Speaker 8: And there's a million people watching the Irishman like as
Speaker 8: they're on Twitter. Yes, I mean, and if it's in
Speaker 8: the theater, you don't even have to option, like you
Speaker 8: have to watch it.
Speaker 1: And I think I saw it in the theater me too.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to watch me too Netflix, And I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 8: And I think when you put a movie in the theater,
Speaker 8: you're telling culturally, you were saying, like, this is worth
Speaker 8: you putting your phone in your pocket for two hours, like,
Speaker 8: and you're asking people to do that, and that asks
Speaker 8: that it is a big ask. And I think that
Speaker 8: to that end, that's why we're writing a very expensive
Speaker 8: big fund.
Speaker 6: Us.
Speaker 8: We understand what we're asking is not a light ask.
Speaker 8: We're asking you to give up your timon courtesy, and
Speaker 8: in order to do that, we have to repay you
Speaker 8: with something that is worthy of it.
Speaker 3: So can I ask apatop mafia question?
Speaker 6: And for that reason, I'm gonna go back to something
Speaker 6: that I wanted to ask you guys when y'all were
Speaker 6: having the back and forth. Do y'all ever consider because
Speaker 6: as a woman of color, being a fan of what
Speaker 6: you guys do, I love it wouldn't change it. Blah
Speaker 6: blah blah.
Speaker 3: However, time to change it, and not for nothing.
Speaker 6: I would be curious to see how a woman of
Speaker 6: color would be written to some of these situations, right,
Speaker 6: because when you look at the majority of the movies
Speaker 6: that you guys do, like you said, I know, you
Speaker 6: introduced the rose Burn situation, but not really so have
Speaker 6: y'all started considering maybe, yes, maybe the next thing.
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't know yet, but you're working on.
Speaker 7: Something, yes, very much. I mean, it is. It is
Speaker 7: a prevalent topic of conversation, but not on purpose.
Speaker 6: I don't want y'all to do it just because oh
Speaker 6: my god, everybody's demanding that we have a woman and
Speaker 6: then we have to have a woman of color, but
Speaker 6: just because you see that, hey wait a minute, that
Speaker 6: would be funny to get that perspective in this storyline,
Speaker 6: and like.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean it's something that Yeah, I mean, the
Speaker 8: more perspectives and the more different people you have working
Speaker 8: on your material, the better it all is.
Speaker 7: Yeah. I mean, we produce the show Black Monday with
Speaker 7: don Cheatle and.
Speaker 3: Regina and.
Speaker 7: It's great and The Preacher Yeah, and we've just seen
Speaker 7: and and it is and Preacher exactly. We've seen.
Speaker 8: It's very rewarding and and and and it and people
Speaker 8: get great. You know, it's the more representation the better.
Speaker 8: I would never argue otherwise, but I want to see
Speaker 8: you like I got.
Speaker 3: I love the daun Chet in the Regina Hall, but
Speaker 3: I was like, man, I want to see.
Speaker 7: That'd be great.
Speaker 1: I'm in Okay, So in the hindsight, the like I
Speaker 1: was paying attention to it, but I don't recall. I
Speaker 1: remember the email fallouts with Sony. The interview would be interview,
Speaker 1: Yeah did was it worth it?
Speaker 9: Uh?
Speaker 7: Yeah? Because it was crazy and like and was.
Speaker 8: Not to us like other people, I mean talking about sexism.
Speaker 8: Like the only real person to be horribly damaged by
Speaker 8: it was Amy Pascal, her.
Speaker 7: Boss Michael Linton. He wasn't damaged, but but she was
Speaker 7: terribly damaged.
Speaker 1: Wait just collect me if I'm wrong. The the fallout,
Speaker 1: the fallout with the damn with the interview was if
Speaker 1: you guys released this, we'll hack into your emails.
Speaker 8: And then they eventually they had her. They had already
Speaker 8: hacked into Sony and they eventually threatened to like bomb
Speaker 8: movie theaters that played the movie basically, and that's why
Speaker 8: they pulled.
Speaker 1: Okay, so it was released stream or was it Google
Speaker 1: Plays I've seen it. I just forgot where Google released it.
Speaker 8: And then Netflix released it all within like, uh, Google
Speaker 8: released it. Actually the date was supposed to come out
Speaker 8: in theaters, and the Netflix released did two weeks later.
Speaker 1: Ah okay, And.
Speaker 7: Again, was it was it worth it? It was?
Speaker 8: I mean it was like it was a really interesting exercise,
Speaker 8: Like I don't the result of which is still fascinating,
Speaker 8: And I don't even when you say is it worth it?
Speaker 8: I don't even I'm not even sure anyone knows what
Speaker 8: the fuck actually happened. Like there was a big article
Speaker 8: in the Hollywood Reporter the other day that was like
Speaker 8: what really happened in the sonya ha?
Speaker 7: Can you read the article? And you're just like, there's no,
Speaker 7: I don't know what happened. I don't know what happened.
Speaker 7: People don't. They're not sure North Korea did it. They don't.
Speaker 7: Like no, people people think they did.
Speaker 8: So like it's hard to it's hard to retrospectively gain
Speaker 8: a lot of insight from something where you honestly aren't
Speaker 8: even sure what.
Speaker 7: The fuck happened.
Speaker 8: Like as a movie, Honestly, to me, the most the
Speaker 8: biggest bummer is that the movie pretty shitty reviews and
Speaker 8: that doesn't happen to us that often, and that that
Speaker 8: fed me out, Like honestly, yeah, it was like for us,
Speaker 8: like pretty bad. And so that to me was the
Speaker 8: thing that if I look back and could change something,
Speaker 8: I'd be like, Oh, I wish the second act had
Speaker 8: like a better set piece in it, and I wish
Speaker 8: like we rounded out the third act more emotionally. But
Speaker 8: I but like because that was the stuff that was
Speaker 8: in my control, you know what I mean, Like the
Speaker 8: actual product, the film was the thing we were in
Speaker 8: control of. And what I'm yeah, what I don't love
Speaker 8: is that it just wasn't received as well as movies.
Speaker 1: This just hit me, and I know we're gonna wind
Speaker 1: up pretty soon, but uh, it just hit me that
Speaker 1: you're one of the cameos in one of Yauk's last pieces. Yes, uh,
Speaker 1: make some No, I'm about to call it fight for
Speaker 1: You right too.
Speaker 7: Yeah, make video.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was an incident version that was called fight
Speaker 1: for You right reviews. So how did that? How was
Speaker 1: that picture come together?
Speaker 9: Just?
Speaker 1: Oh man, are you guys aware at the time what
Speaker 1: his condition was? And this was sort of like this
Speaker 1: swan song or we kind.
Speaker 8: Of got that sense as we were shooting it, like
Speaker 8: I knew he had been sick, but I there was
Speaker 8: kind of like the public word on this on the
Speaker 8: street was that he was getting better, you know.
Speaker 7: And then he just called me.
Speaker 8: One day, I got a call from adamill Coke call yeah,
Speaker 8: and it was just like the greatest fucking phone call
Speaker 8: you ever got.
Speaker 7: A huge BC Boys fan my whole life.
Speaker 8: Like I'd met him once or twice before at like
Speaker 8: south By Southwest, I think, and yeah, and he was
Speaker 8: just like, we're making a music video and I want
Speaker 8: you to be Mike d.
Speaker 7: And that was fucking great.
Speaker 8: And then we shot that video for three days, which
Speaker 8: is crazy for a music video, and and every famous
Speaker 8: person ever was in and I think it was like
Speaker 8: halfway through day two where I was like, oh, this
Speaker 8: is like a kind of like.
Speaker 7: A big last Tursh Swan song.
Speaker 8: Yeah, And and then it got kind of sad and bittersweet,
Speaker 8: but was also fun like when when I look back
Speaker 8: and think of was like he was just telling like
Speaker 8: it was literally like we were all his like g
Speaker 8: I Joe toys and he was just playing with us
Speaker 8: and it was like for your birthday, here's all your
Speaker 8: favorite comedians and they'll do whatever the fuck you tell
Speaker 8: them to do for three days straight on this New
Speaker 8: York City backlot and like that's literally like he would
Speaker 8: just be laughing, Daddy, kick the store in except throw
Speaker 8: this beard him, you guys, dance on the cough car
Speaker 8: and like and he would just be like laughing his
Speaker 8: ass off as we were just like what like there
Speaker 8: was no questions there was. It was never like why
Speaker 8: would I do that? He was just like sure, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 8: whatever the fuck you want, We're it, and like we
Speaker 8: and it started to kind of imitate the video itself
Speaker 8: because we were there all the time, Me and Danny
Speaker 8: and Elijah who were the Beastie Boys, and then other
Speaker 8: cameos would come in for like a couple hours, and
Speaker 8: we were like in this mindset.
Speaker 7: It was like crazy.
Speaker 8: We were just like so geared to just do whatever
Speaker 8: we were told to do. With Eddie, like if they
Speaker 8: were just like body slam Laura Dirt, I was like
Speaker 8: all right, was like no, Like I was just like
Speaker 8: in this like state of like I'll just do whatever
Speaker 8: the fuck this guy tells me. That's what we're here for.
Speaker 8: And you could see people would come in and be
Speaker 8: like this is crazy, Like what are you guys doing
Speaker 8: in here? This is like you've you've gone nuts and
Speaker 8: that really like we were just spraying beer, a fake
Speaker 8: beer on everyone's faces and like throwing like we Yeah,
Speaker 8: it was.
Speaker 3: It was a maddening Danny McBride must be like he
Speaker 3: writes to correct.
Speaker 8: Yeah, he writes Eastbounding down and the Righteous Gemstone right,
Speaker 8: So yeah, he.
Speaker 3: Must be like awesome to work.
Speaker 6: In my mind, everybody who was in this is the
Speaker 6: end in a way to do their own writing, But
Speaker 6: who is like awesome to write with? It blows your
Speaker 6: mind and you just like the fuck you come up
Speaker 6: with that ship.
Speaker 8: They're all great in their own ways. Like yeah, Like
Speaker 8: Danny Jonah is truly the one. Like on set is
Speaker 8: like it's pretty remarkable to watch, like he's he he's
Speaker 8: like he gets like very locked in and is like
Speaker 8: it's like a pretty miraculous thing. From time to time,
Speaker 8: Danny is very loose and had and biting and like
Speaker 8: he's the comedian that kind of the other comedians are
Speaker 8: a little afraid to improvise with hurts, yeah, because I mean,
Speaker 8: but he's very sweet and nice.
Speaker 1: But it was like I saw him once and I
Speaker 1: did not say because I just felt like.
Speaker 8: He don't know, you know, he's very sweet and such
Speaker 8: a nice dude and like not and what it is
Speaker 8: one of those funny things where like he created those
Speaker 8: characters as a way to make fun of the guys
Speaker 8: he didn't like growing up.
Speaker 7: Basically that is who he is and his biggest fan
Speaker 7: base is probably which is a bummer videos.
Speaker 1: How did Kanye contact you to do bund We.
Speaker 8: Just did it on our own and then he did
Speaker 8: really yes, and then he did ask so he just
Speaker 8: released it.
Speaker 1: We released it.
Speaker 7: He did it. No, we just did it. He released
Speaker 7: his video and literally within.
Speaker 8: An hour of seeing it, I was like, we're recreating it,
Speaker 8: and we had ours up like twenty four hours later.
Speaker 1: Like it was you know, it was I've never seen
Speaker 1: Kanye's version.
Speaker 7: Oh that's funny.
Speaker 1: You just saw ours fun fat I never seen Kanye.
Speaker 6: It's okay, I never saw so much worse.
Speaker 1: You wait, what, what's what's the Patino film? Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: reding it.
Speaker 7: What's the film? O?
Speaker 1: Not Donnie Frosco. You were the end of Carlido's way.
Speaker 1: When you think they're going to get away with it,
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, no, you go.
Speaker 7: You yeah, you ca he stabbed you.
Speaker 1: No, I'm sorry. I've seen the college drap out ones,
Speaker 1: but I haven't seen post that.
Speaker 7: No, but he did ask us to come do it
Speaker 7: at his wedding. Wow, Franco.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 7: He called us and was like, will you come do
Speaker 7: that at my wedding? And did you know it? Well?
Speaker 6: Know?
Speaker 8: Like it was one of those things were like throughout
Speaker 8: the conversation, I like, you thought willed him to realize
Speaker 8: how uncomfortable it would be, which he slowly.
Speaker 7: Did he and I was just like, so we're just
Speaker 7: and he's just like he's like, as I say this,
Speaker 7: I realized how comfortable. He's like, it would be funny
Speaker 7: for ten seconds.
Speaker 8: But he's like, I've asked you to fly to verside
Speaker 8: for like literally ten seconds and ship He's like, we
Speaker 8: shouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: But so I meant, I mean you you lived, You
Speaker 1: lived a charmed sort of listy life. I want to know,
Speaker 1: did a project ever get away from you that you
Speaker 1: had your eyes on that you wish you I wish
Speaker 1: we did, like you had a chance to no write
Speaker 1: or direct blah blah blah.
Speaker 7: But there are.
Speaker 1: Things like no I mean, yeah, did Lynn Manuel come
Speaker 1: up to Hamilton get away from your kid?
Speaker 8: No, there are things that like that we that came
Speaker 8: across our desk that then became very successful. But I
Speaker 8: don't think when I look like, oh, like, should we
Speaker 8: have really like spent like two years making like you know,
Speaker 8: like Hobbs and Shaw, I.
Speaker 7: Don't know, like maybe it would have been fun.
Speaker 8: Like yeah, I mean I don't know if it was
Speaker 8: like outwardly offered, but there was a point where it's like,
Speaker 8: come in, you want to meet on the Hobbs and
Speaker 8: char movies like Deadpool Baby years ago, very long time.
Speaker 8: But like I think that it's not It just wasn't
Speaker 8: our thing, you know what I mean, Like we weren't like, uh,
Speaker 8: the idea like plugging in. I think that's what green
Speaker 8: Hornet scared us off of more than anything, was like
Speaker 8: plugging into.
Speaker 7: This like saying yes to everything, yeah exactly, and.
Speaker 8: Plugging into like an IP that is like very established, yeah,
Speaker 8: already established, and having to like work within that so
Speaker 8: like like and working with like a big company is
Speaker 8: like just scary, like working with like a Marvel or
Speaker 8: you know, like and not to say we wouldn't do it.
Speaker 7: It's just it's just scary, you know.
Speaker 8: And and I think and making like a friend, yeah,
Speaker 8: like making like a Hobs and Shot type movie where
Speaker 8: it's just like, this movie's gonna get made no matter what.
Speaker 7: We're just the people like, you know, serving you the dish.
Speaker 1: Well, the silver lining of Greenhorn is that you got
Speaker 1: your health in check.
Speaker 7: Yes, and it started working out. Yeah I know that.
Speaker 8: Well yeah, No, it was a lot of good and
Speaker 8: we learned like so much like we that movie was
Speaker 8: made in a way movies aren't made anymore. Like everything
Speaker 8: it was practical effects, it was visual effects. There was
Speaker 8: there was huge stunt teams. There was like literally the
Speaker 8: stunt team that did Indianda Jones did the movie. Like
Speaker 8: we got to learn from these like amazing people, and
Speaker 8: and Gondry himself was someone who was amazing to learn from.
Speaker 8: And even though the result was debatable, like I think
Speaker 8: very few experiences made us understand the production process and
Speaker 8: filmmaking in general, uh more than that movie because it
Speaker 8: was as logistically complicated a movie as as exists in
Speaker 8: the world. And we had like a front row seat
Speaker 8: to every step of the process. So that was really interesting.
Speaker 7: Yeah. Wow, which it made a better movie.
Speaker 3: Can I show a stoner question real quick?
Speaker 6: Because I remember famously listening to you on Stern one
Speaker 6: day and he was asking you about working out and
Speaker 6: working out why you were smoking, and.
Speaker 3: You were like, yeah, I'll tell you a couple of totes.
Speaker 1: Do you do that?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I've done it in this.
Speaker 7: Little Jill Queen when I do everything.
Speaker 6: I want you to give advice to young stoners because
Speaker 6: I think you have to graduate to that level. Yeah,
Speaker 6: And I wanted to know when you got to the
Speaker 6: point where you knew that you could do everything Stone
Speaker 6: That's that's like next level.
Speaker 7: It takes a while. Yeah, tell a baby, baby, Yeah, exactly,
Speaker 7: Like the thing most people.
Speaker 8: I'm always telling people to smoke a little bit of wheat,
Speaker 8: Like to take one hit of wheat. That's what Like,
Speaker 8: I just I was just with David Chay on his
Speaker 8: Netflix show, and like we went around smoked weed all day,
Speaker 8: and I just the whole time was like one little
Speaker 8: tiny hit and that'll get you going for you'll be
Speaker 8: fine and like like or set a timer, take one
Speaker 8: hit and then see you feel in twenty minutes and
Speaker 8: then maybe have another hit. But like most people just
Speaker 8: make way too much weed and who don't smoke a
Speaker 8: lot of weed, and weat is super strong and one
Speaker 8: hit is enough literally and.
Speaker 3: Get any I'm also, yeah, did you do you smoke
Speaker 3: the team?
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, well I prefer uh was it? I'm like
Speaker 1: so new. I'm literally like seven months into.
Speaker 3: This, so we've been trying for thirty years.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but the thing is, when I do it, it
Speaker 1: always hits me at the most inopportune moment, like I'll
Speaker 1: do it all right. One time I did it at night, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and it felt a little weird, like, oh god, let
Speaker 1: me just sit down and relax. I fell asleep rightep
Speaker 1: and woke up in the morning. It's like, oh damn,
Speaker 1: I didn't get high. That was a waste. And then
Speaker 1: twenty minutes and then twenty minutes into my day right
Speaker 1: when I got on the drum set of fell and
Speaker 1: you all.
Speaker 3: From the night before.
Speaker 7: That's weird.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that is weird.
Speaker 1: I Well, see, I do edibles.
Speaker 10: I don't.
Speaker 1: I don't smoke.
Speaker 7: Are on edible.
Speaker 8: I do edibles very sparingly because they're wildly unpredicted. Yeah
Speaker 8: like that, like they're uh, they're hard to it's hard
Speaker 8: to get time them. Yeah, it's hard to get the
Speaker 8: dose is right, it's hard to time them. Sometimes it
Speaker 8: depends on what. Sometimes they take an hour to kick in,
Speaker 8: two hours to kick in, depends what. It takes five hours.
Speaker 3: You need to take note of the stone is around you.
Speaker 3: Do you ever see Steve eating his weed?
Speaker 10: If you eat your weed, there's none left to smoke.
Speaker 7: Sorry forgive me.
Speaker 1: Again, my my My final question is uh, Oftentimes, like
Speaker 1: right now I'm watching the Morning Show, which is notably everyone.
Speaker 1: I've knew them. I knew them from the funny world,
Speaker 1: the comedy world. But yeah, they're doing drama. Like, would
Speaker 1: you consider because you did Steve Jobs correct the movie?
Speaker 7: No, I did Steve Jobs.
Speaker 1: Technically, would you want to further explore into the world
Speaker 1: of drama?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And what role are you? What is your like your
Speaker 1: fantasy thing that you haven't done yet that you really
Speaker 1: want to do?
Speaker 7: We're writing that.
Speaker 8: I mean, that's what's nice about being able to write
Speaker 8: your own movies, is like, I've no one to blame
Speaker 8: but myself for if if my career seems limited in
Speaker 8: scope as an actor, like yeah, I mean, what uh
Speaker 8: the thing we're working on now I'm obsessed with, Like
Speaker 8: Buster Keaton and Jackie Chan and so like, I've always
Speaker 8: wanted to make like a highly physical, like action movie,
Speaker 8: like our action comedy, like something that is almost entirely
Speaker 8: predicated on action and not a lot of talking at all.
Speaker 8: And that has just always been something that I always
Speaker 8: enjoy shooting that type of stuff, and so that something
Speaker 8: that we want to.
Speaker 7: Do, and that's what we're working on right now. Yeah,
Speaker 7: kind of like a really violent mister Bean.
Speaker 1: All right, Well, you know, Seth, we really thank you. Damn,
Speaker 1: we don't even get to your your hip hop. It's
Speaker 1: we'll just assume that you like hip hop. I love
Speaker 1: it anyway. No, we really want to thank you for coming.
Speaker 3: And you want to appreciate to love that.
Speaker 1: Yes on behalf of Sugar Steve and Unpaid Bill and
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