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Speaker 1: we have comedian, director, producer, actor, writer, leading man cannabis connoisseur,
Speaker 1: also uh advocate for sleeping in the bed room under
Speaker 1: sixty seven degrees.
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Speaker 1: man in the roots, Ladies and gentlemen, and hip hop
Speaker 1: head and Canadian ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Seth Rogan.
Speaker 1: Wait, I gotta all right, we this this is a
Speaker 1: show of rabbit holing. Let's just start first, all right,
Speaker 1: I'm a little I'm miffed.
Speaker 3: All right, so I have to explain that a lot
Speaker 3: of backstory.
Speaker 1: I was very fortunate. I was very fortunate to attend
Speaker 1: uh sets uh Hilarity for charity event. Shout out to
Speaker 1: uh Menisian and Mary Ellis Museum.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, So I went there and the discussion of how
Speaker 1: much sleep does a person need to.
Speaker 3: Have that healthy brain? Yeah, brain health, Yes, yes, No.
Speaker 7: I learned a lot.
Speaker 3: I learned that.
Speaker 1: As of lately, I'll say, in the last two months,
Speaker 1: I've been back into the eight hour range of sleeping.
Speaker 1: That's good because, right because people were always like, when
Speaker 1: do you sleep? When do you slee You didn't used
Speaker 1: to sleep, right, I was three. I was three to
Speaker 1: five hour guy, and I was told that you don't
Speaker 1: even reach r EM state until six hours and forty
Speaker 1: seven minutes and for your body to heal. And you know,
Speaker 1: I'm adjusting my lifestyle right now. I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: back to a healthier place. I got to do somewhere
Speaker 1: between eight to ten hours for the magic to begin. So,
Speaker 1: but then you guys left me with this this gem
Speaker 1: of the room has to be cold.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you sleep best if the room is freezing. I've
Speaker 3: heard that before, like sixty in the sixties.
Speaker 1: Well, yeah, my girlfriend took that the heart and now
Speaker 1: reading night, Yeah, it's cold as hell. It's been sixty
Speaker 1: five degrees in the bedroom.
Speaker 3: Are you sleeping better?
Speaker 1: No, No, I'm sleeping well, but it's not like I
Speaker 1: needed to be Africa hot.
Speaker 3: My wife, Well, that's why my wife likes it much
Speaker 3: colder than me, and that's why they have heating pad.
Speaker 3: That's what we're talking about. There's there's pads from Actress
Speaker 3: where you can set the temperature so you could keep
Speaker 3: your side hot and her side cold, and it's something
Speaker 3: that's throughout l Yeah. Perfect, I'm sorry, it's exactly right,
Speaker 3: but uh no, it's fun. And I think I think
Speaker 3: as bed get older, they get colder. It is we
Speaker 3: would get older, they get hotter. Yeah. Yeah, me and
Speaker 3: my wife have kind of We were just talking about
Speaker 3: how we like crossed over. Like when we first started dating,
Speaker 3: I was always hot and she was always cold, and
Speaker 3: now I'm always cold and she's always hot. And we
Speaker 3: probably had like three years where we were both the
Speaker 3: same temperature and we didn't realize how good that time
Speaker 3: was until it was gone.
Speaker 1: No, it could be really probably problematic because I'll get up,
Speaker 1: I'll reach my limit at exactly like four to seventeen am.
Speaker 3: And you're freezing. Are you sure I'll sneak up with nothing?
Speaker 3: Don't you remember? Do it all right? You remember on.
Speaker 1: Sesame Street the green guy in the in the in
Speaker 1: the trench coat that used to always sell Ernie like
Speaker 1: a letter Hey.
Speaker 3: But yeah, yeah exactly, letter dealer, right, so like his
Speaker 3: little creep music, creeping tiptoe music. Yes, exactly.
Speaker 1: So I'm in my own house that I paid for creeping,
Speaker 1: putting that ship back to like something normal like sixty eight.
Speaker 3: I don't go below sixty eight ars. That's where we've landed.
Speaker 3: My wife Lauren would go to this like low sixties.
Speaker 2: Over thirty five. You got to go to sixty six, brom.
Speaker 2: You got put on another blanket and then make it
Speaker 2: hot underneath it. You know what I'm saying. That's the gold.
Speaker 2: Think about it.
Speaker 5: What's the what's the logic keeping it colder? What's the
Speaker 5: physics of well?
Speaker 1: And then the thing is that your your brain is
Speaker 1: divided into two parts. There's the conscious brain, and like
Speaker 1: the concert is like hey, uh, I'm gonna go to work.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go to work later today, I'm gonna take
Speaker 1: the subway home, I'm gonna lose weight, I'm going to
Speaker 1: ask that girl out. And then it's a subconscious which
Speaker 1: does stuff like I'm gonna make sure your heart's beating
Speaker 1: I'm gonna make sure you're waist. So it's the it's
Speaker 1: the part of your brain.
Speaker 3: WHOA, yeah, what you said. And so it's actually a
Speaker 3: fish song of course. And so.
Speaker 1: Your body has to be totally knocked out. So you
Speaker 1: get to that R. E. M state at exactly six
Speaker 1: hours and forty five minutes. When you're that sleep, then
Speaker 1: you're right out of brains, like waking up like.
Speaker 7: All right, he's asleep, let's get to work.
Speaker 1: And so then that's where the fat burns. That's where
Speaker 1: like all the things that you want to help have
Speaker 1: happened for your life to be good. Your your brain's
Speaker 1: like all right, they're knocked out. Now now we can
Speaker 1: get to work. But the thing is that most of
Speaker 1: us don't get that much sleep, so we're doing ourselves
Speaker 1: a disservice by only sleeping six to seven hours.
Speaker 3: It's terrible for you.
Speaker 1: But yeah, you didn't answer my question. Why does it
Speaker 1: have to be cold?
Speaker 3: Probably because people probably because it was cold at night.
Speaker 1: You're you mean like before we had houses.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like it's probably like we're conditioned to sleep in
Speaker 3: colder environments.
Speaker 1: So I think so at this.
Speaker 3: Event, Okay, can we just agree that this entire hours.
Speaker 1: I'm kind of on you're side of the fence. Why
Speaker 1: does it have to be so damn cold? No, I
Speaker 1: mean I'm just asking.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, I'm asking.
Speaker 5: I'm what's the scientific part of I don't think this helps.
Speaker 3: I don't know. That's why I want to know.
Speaker 2: Google where we changed the subject.
Speaker 7: I'm just going to suggest everybody hop on Google.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Google, and then anyway, let's talk about movies. But
Speaker 3: you do sleep better what it's called, and that's that's fact. So, uh, give,
Speaker 3: we don't need wise? Are we giving wise? We're just
Speaker 3: giving answers here. It's said that completely unsubstantiated information scientists.
Speaker 1: Scientists have going on a record and said.
Speaker 3: So we had a doctor he substantiated it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I kind of believe me and my curiosity exactly.
Speaker 1: So you were born in Vancouver, Vancouver, British Columbia. Huh,
Speaker 1: home of the the hip hop national anthem.
Speaker 7: Wait, who else was Alfia Chang?
Speaker 2: Because he's yeah episode.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think I've bet her over the years.
Speaker 1: Actually she'll be on the future episodes. Great anyway, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: The Rascals are a hip hop group from Vancouver that
Speaker 3: were the The Rascals they were called like, uh and
Speaker 3: uh Northern Touch, Yeah, rascals, checkmate, Cardinal Allen thrust Claire,
Speaker 3: how do you know this? How do you know that
Speaker 3: very no American knows that song? I do my research
Speaker 3: is well, maybe you can help you to steal the
Speaker 3: beat of that song for a song. Yeah, there is
Speaker 3: a d m X song with the exact same beat
Speaker 3: as Northern Touch, and I think if you're Canadian, it's
Speaker 3: very jarring. But you're like, oh, this is a good beat.
Speaker 1: It I can't yeah, express bt express sample that E
Speaker 1: P M D used head banger ev Well, no, no,
Speaker 1: no for uh uh you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Northern Touch first, get the bows that no EBMD
Speaker 3: was first, and then Northern Touch, yes maybe.
Speaker 1: And then DMX came and just took it. Did Did
Speaker 1: you know that your your hometown is also uh what
Speaker 1: I consider that the national anthem of hip hop? Did
Speaker 1: you know that Apache was created in Vancouver?
Speaker 3: Apache? Yes?
Speaker 1: Apache was recorded and created in Vancouver.
Speaker 3: Really? Yes, I did not know that.
Speaker 1: Yes, that's one of my favorite factoids about that is
Speaker 1: a very good fact with Vancouver and the other and Wars.
Speaker 3: From Vancouver is the other I love. Yeah, Your interviews
Speaker 3: with him are great. Have you interviewed been I've been
Speaker 3: interviewed by him once.
Speaker 1: Have you ever seen a non savory nord war interview
Speaker 1: like a lot of the earlier ones where they don't
Speaker 1: you know if he's trolling them or not.
Speaker 3: Oh? Yes, so, I mean I grew up watching him,
Speaker 3: So I've seen like so many.
Speaker 1: How long has he been doing this?
Speaker 3: Like thirty years? He's like fifty something. Yes, he's younger
Speaker 3: than me.
Speaker 1: No.
Speaker 3: There's actually an amazing yardbar interview with Nirvana, like backstage
Speaker 3: at the P and E Forum, which is the place
Speaker 3: in Vancouver from like nineteen ninety, like three or something
Speaker 3: like Courtney Love is there and it's like a very
Speaker 3: long interview that's filmed and throughout it's like forty minutes
Speaker 3: or something like. Throughout the course of it, you see
Speaker 3: Kurt Kobad like slowly realize he's a genius, and like
Speaker 3: at first it's this thing where it's just like, why
Speaker 3: is this fucking guy here bothering me? And then he's
Speaker 3: slowly like clues in the house is yeah, he totally
Speaker 3: does know. But I've seen because now people know who
Speaker 3: he is, Like, but for years I would watch interviews
Speaker 3: where famous musicians would just get interviewed by him and
Speaker 3: be like, who the fuck is this guy? And even
Speaker 3: still some people don't. I feel like, don't get it.
Speaker 3: I feel like people all right, So that jay Z interviews,
Speaker 3: the jay Z didn't seem to appreciate. No, I warned
Speaker 3: him about it. Yeah, I take him do it.
Speaker 1: And then Farrell doubled down. Yeah, so he did it.
Speaker 1: Because if we say it's a thing, yeah, then jay
Speaker 1: Z's just.
Speaker 3: One of them.
Speaker 1: Folmo, I don't want to miss out.
Speaker 3: He's got no question you know anyway.
Speaker 1: And so but I'll say that the first time he
Speaker 1: interviewed me, I was paranoid because.
Speaker 3: He just knew ways. Oh it's weird. Too much information
Speaker 3: he knew about me. That was he brought out your books. Yeah,
Speaker 3: he had my high school yearbooks. Literally, he like knew people,
Speaker 3: He knew names that I hadn't heard in like, yeah,
Speaker 3: twenty five years.
Speaker 7: Got a bag from the shop at your mommy store.
Speaker 3: Yes literally that. Yeah, it was totally crazy.
Speaker 7: It would freak me out.
Speaker 3: It was super fucking freaky. But his knowledge is bizarre.
Speaker 3: He's always trying to get to Kanye. He's like, that's
Speaker 3: his holy Grail. He like emails me and tells me
Speaker 3: a YouTube oh alone, not at all. Yeah, I can
Speaker 3: see that going very bad.
Speaker 1: He somehow thinks that I have the magic touch to
Speaker 1: get him to the Obamas.
Speaker 3: Wowane, Yeah, that's a big step in a much better direction.
Speaker 6: I read somewhere somebody said online that, uh that when
Speaker 6: you get to the parlegates of Heaven, it's ard war
Speaker 6: that he's the one that's reviewing your entire life there.
Speaker 1: So, speaking of your hometown, are you is every time
Speaker 1: I ask anybody from Vancouver, are you knowledgeable the La
Speaker 1: Cassa gelato or is that just for tour suckers like me?
Speaker 7: It's the place that has.
Speaker 3: Like hundreds of flavors of gelato. Yeah, it's near. It's
Speaker 3: on like the like north end of kind of the
Speaker 3: east side of Vancouver.
Speaker 1: It's my favorite place ever, I might.
Speaker 3: It's not somewhere I grew up going, but it's somewhere
Speaker 3: that I've heard of Its suckers might be kind of
Speaker 3: a vinegar. Yeah. It was one of the first places
Speaker 3: to start doing like weird flavors or ship like that. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Yeah, basically cheese ice cream man like a tobacco one
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 3: Yeah for a while. Yeah, well, I mean something.
Speaker 1: That some of the weird ones I liked, Like they
Speaker 1: have black pepper vanilla.
Speaker 3: That's weird. How is cheddar cheese? Well that's the thing.
Speaker 1: You you basically you sample all the weird ones and
Speaker 1: you get the rocky road.
Speaker 3: That's you know, that's a purely like North American thing
Speaker 3: is sampling ice cream? Like, uh, what I was considered rude? Well,
Speaker 3: I was in Italy and uh not to brag that
Speaker 3: Italy in a gelato shop and there was like a
Speaker 3: rush of Americans left and me and by wife for
Speaker 3: the holy people of the restaurant, and the woman behind
Speaker 3: the counter like very quietly looked at us and goes,
Speaker 3: can I ask you a question? We're like, yeah, how
Speaker 3: come American always ask the taste? She's like, what is this? Like?
Speaker 3: Nowhere else to t I was like, you're right when
Speaker 3: you put it like that, it is pretty fucking weird,
Speaker 3: Like nowhere else you'd be like can I try that
Speaker 3: sand which piece? That's what I said. I said. I
Speaker 3: think it all roots back to this one place basket Robins,
Speaker 3: where they encourage people to do it and that ruined
Speaker 3: really ice cream all over the the Yeah, because I
Speaker 3: know that the.
Speaker 2: Sun you are, I'm like, yeah, they combined with dun donuts.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, yeah there. That's the thing though, are they.
Speaker 1: I know that the Sun inherited the empire and because
Speaker 1: you know, like generations are the opposites of what their
Speaker 1: parents were, the Sun wasn't like you know, he didn't
Speaker 1: he was concerned about the cows.
Speaker 3: They were using and.
Speaker 1: Range and so instead he took the family money and
Speaker 1: did this expose on how like ice cream companies are
Speaker 1: ruining cows environment.
Speaker 3: It's like ice cream succession.
Speaker 8: So they that's crazy basket around. I was just in
Speaker 8: the ice cream industry, which explains why they had to
Speaker 8: partner with.
Speaker 3: Basket.
Speaker 2: That Margarita flavor is still there is good Margerite ice cream.
Speaker 2: Have a Margarita flavor. They've had it forever.
Speaker 3: Wow. Good to condition children at a young age to
Speaker 3: develop a taste from Margarita's. So twenty minutes.
Speaker 1: So twenty minutes into this interview, let's start. So you
Speaker 1: being born in the early eighties in Vancouver, what was
Speaker 1: the what was your environment like in your household?
Speaker 3: My household, I lived on the East side of Vancouver,
Speaker 3: which in like a one hundred percent like East Indian neighborhood.
Speaker 3: So it was, uh, it was great. It was like
Speaker 3: I would walk around a lot. I was just arguing
Speaker 3: with my parents. Their memory was that I never walked
Speaker 3: around alone, and I definitively did all the time. It
Speaker 3: would take the bus all around the city. But uh, yeah,
Speaker 3: but I went to school on the West Side, I
Speaker 3: grew up. I started doing stand up when I was young,
Speaker 3: like twelve or thirteen, and I would started writing around
Speaker 3: then too, and I smoked weed a lot, and not
Speaker 3: much has changed my life since I was twelve. I ag.
Speaker 1: So the myth, the myth of super Bad and you
Speaker 1: crafting this at such a young age is.
Speaker 3: Yes, for sure. Yeah. Me and my partner Evan, who
Speaker 3: I still work with, met in bar Mitzvah class when
Speaker 3: we were twelve and then started writing together not long
Speaker 3: after that, and we had yeah, we probably finished the
Speaker 3: draft to Super Bad when we were like fourteen or
Speaker 3: fifteen for a complete yeah by then, but we started
Speaker 3: when we were like thirteen, And there is some and
Speaker 3: it's like what the things were. It's almost sad that
Speaker 3: like I'm not that much smarter or fuddier than I
Speaker 3: was when I was thirteen years old, because there are
Speaker 3: some jokes in the movie that like we wrote when
Speaker 3: we were thirteen that are still in the movie, that
Speaker 3: are in the movie that like that held up and
Speaker 3: that are still Yeah, you'd like to think you got
Speaker 3: better in that amount of time.
Speaker 2: At fourteen, you look like a professional.
Speaker 3: I'm trying to say. I remember I made I asked
Speaker 3: my mom to buy me Final Draft, which was the
Speaker 3: script writing software, and she did. My parents were like
Speaker 3: super supportive because I also didn't stand up, so they
Speaker 3: saw that, like I would work hard. You know what
Speaker 3: I mean? This is ninety six, Yeah, this is probably
Speaker 3: ninety five or ninety six or something like that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: ninety five, I would say, ninety six.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like all right, I'm curious, and this is lead
Speaker 1: just back to the conscious subconscious. Yeah, when you're subconscious,
Speaker 1: it's convinced them of something. Yeah, then your body does it,
Speaker 1: which which explains why you know, Kanye uses outward affirmations
Speaker 1: I am the greatest, yes, and then everything happens for him,
Speaker 1: the same way with Trump, the same way with Diddy,
Speaker 1: the same with Jay.
Speaker 2: Remember Day remix it and called it a secret secret.
Speaker 7: I have six million dollars in my bank account right now,
Speaker 7: right now.
Speaker 1: So I'm curious what what inside you gave you the
Speaker 1: the boss to even be like, yo, let's write a
Speaker 1: movie now, Like it didn't even start with like let's
Speaker 1: start with community theater.
Speaker 3: Hey, how do you do this?
Speaker 7: Or did you see a movie one day?
Speaker 3: Is like I could do better. Literally, that's what happened.
Speaker 3: Like what movie did you see that sets you off?
Speaker 3: I can't remember and we are all we love picture
Speaker 3: that was like no, like that was something. I had
Speaker 3: a pulp fiction poster on my bedroom door, like.
Speaker 7: Throughout if you were a teenager in the nineties, you.
Speaker 3: Had Yeah, I mean that came out in ninety four,
Speaker 3: maybe I was twelve, so we saw it around then,
Speaker 3: and it was it was also the era of like independent.
Speaker 3: It was like the resurgence of this independent film like
Speaker 3: Clark Car and Rushmore and Wes Anderson had Bottle Rocket,
Speaker 3: so there was oh yeah, we were obsessed with them.
Speaker 3: And it's also one of those things that was my
Speaker 3: parents loved movies and they were just huge movie fans,
Speaker 3: so they would like watch a lot of movies and
Speaker 3: collect movies. Vancouver. They made some stuff there, so it's
Speaker 3: not like Hollywood, but like you would see movie sets
Speaker 3: around and so there was like it wasn't this like
Speaker 3: completely unobtainable thing. And then in high school, our high
Speaker 3: school was right across the street from to video store,
Speaker 3: like uh giant video stores, and we would rent movies,
Speaker 3: like we watched. All we would do is like smoke.
Speaker 3: We'd watch movies basically, and and when you watch enough movies,
Speaker 3: you start to think, maybe we could do this, and
Speaker 3: if we write something that's like cheap, then maybe that
Speaker 3: was always the thought was, like it was said in
Speaker 3: high school super bad, and we were like, where it
Speaker 3: comes to worst, like this becomes something we like we
Speaker 3: made movies with like our like you know, we had
Speaker 3: a video camera. We were like, we could technically make
Speaker 3: this ourselves if we wanted to.
Speaker 1: You know, what was your north star in terms of Okay,
Speaker 1: So now now it's just hitting me that because I
Speaker 1: family that worked at an independent movie theater back in
Speaker 1: ninety one ninety two, so I always have free tickets.
Speaker 1: But you know, we're seeing al Marachi, We're seeing like
Speaker 1: all these indie films, which I mean at the time
Speaker 1: I didn't realize it, but it was grooming me to
Speaker 1: gear towards art house stuff as opposed to mainstream stuff.
Speaker 1: But for you, what were your Were you a film
Speaker 1: snob or were you just like you know, I got
Speaker 1: Poor GI's and Hot Dog.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, we were hot the Ski movie, Yeah, of course.
Speaker 7: I liked Hamburger the motion picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hamburger, Hamburger Bucker. Was there a Hamburger movie?
Speaker 1: Yes, I gotta see it.
Speaker 3: It was amazing TV.
Speaker 1: There's a specific like C movie yeh VHS section.
Speaker 7: Anything that was on HBO late night and liked.
Speaker 3: In the mid eighties, we would just rent movies based
Speaker 3: on what the cover of the box looking garbage.
Speaker 2: Anybody can find the garbage.
Speaker 3: It's funny. Busy Domight movie just came out. I would
Speaker 3: watch it. But we were we were obsessed with Dollmkee
Speaker 3: because like it was one of those reason that like
Speaker 3: purely based on the colt We're like, what is this?
Speaker 3: We did? We did the same We did the same thing.
Speaker 6: Like every Friday night we would all meet up with
Speaker 6: this Mexican restaurant in town and then we would all
Speaker 6: like caravan over to the video store, argue for about
Speaker 6: half an hour about what video we're going to pick out?
Speaker 3: Oh, we would argue for hours. We spend more time
Speaker 3: in the video store than we would watching the movies
Speaker 3: we rented at the video like that was the activity
Speaker 3: was going to the video store. Inside we argue over
Speaker 3: what we did.
Speaker 6: We called it tasteless movie night. We would try to
Speaker 6: find the most tasteless movie we could find in the
Speaker 6: video suffect. Yeah, and we would just go to my
Speaker 6: friend Darren's basement and watch it. And just like it
Speaker 6: was commentary, it was perfect commentary involved. I'm sure if
Speaker 6: there had been well his mom was a teacher, sect.
Speaker 3: Would never So where were you go? Uh? Well, I
Speaker 3: think it's like one thing I look at is like
Speaker 3: the movies. It's obviously something I've thought about, you know,
Speaker 3: is like the movies my parents owned, Like they owned
Speaker 3: like forty movies on like vhs that they would like,
Speaker 3: there was like three movies to a VHS. They would
Speaker 3: tape them off TV yes when they came on, and like,
Speaker 3: would you ever watch them? I did all the time.
Speaker 3: And those movies are like cementing in my brain. I
Speaker 3: know every word to every one. And I also bet
Speaker 3: that if I like made a list of all those
Speaker 3: movies they like directly correlate to the movies that I've
Speaker 3: made since then basically like one, well, it's like Ghostbusters,
Speaker 3: they and movies like that. My dad loved Bill Murray.
Speaker 3: They also loved like Woody Allen and like Independent like
Speaker 3: they like they had like Hannah and Her Sisters and
Speaker 3: like any halland movies like that, and I would watch
Speaker 3: those movies a lot. And then they had like Albert
Speaker 3: Brooks movies, and my dad loved Billy Crystal and so
Speaker 3: like it was a lot of that stuff. And my
Speaker 3: mom though, loved action movies, and so we had like
Speaker 3: die Hard and Total reco and like Under Sage I
Speaker 3: remember we had right when it came out, and Lef
Speaker 3: a Weapon was like, it's like one of my mom's
Speaker 3: favorite movies. And so I would watch these like emotionally
Speaker 3: driven kind of comedy drama movies and like the most violent,
Speaker 3: insane action movies. And that's kind of a lot of
Speaker 3: the stuff we make now, Yeah, I see, yeah, And
Speaker 3: so all those movies like we loved, and then when yeah,
Speaker 3: and then when Paul fiction of those movies started to
Speaker 3: come out, we became cessin Reservoir Dogs we loved and like,
Speaker 3: and then we got really in a Sam Raimi and
Speaker 3: Peter Jackson's early movies like Army of Darkness we watched
Speaker 3: over and over and over again, and Dead Alive we watched.
Speaker 3: We watched a lot and like, uh yeah, and then
Speaker 3: to see those guys go on that was another thing.
Speaker 3: Is like you'd see like, oh, like Sam Raimi's direct
Speaker 3: and Spider Man and like these guys who like we
Speaker 3: were already fans of for making like the weirdest shit ever,
Speaker 3: we're then crossing over and becoming really successful and I
Speaker 3: think making big things. And that was also I think
Speaker 3: something we always liked and that was interesting to us.
Speaker 3: But no, I mean we just like devoured.
Speaker 1: The Vancouver have much of a social or nightlife because
Speaker 1: I'm a I'm almost thinking of I'm thinking that Vancouver
Speaker 1: is almost like all right, what Minneapolis was to print, yeah,
Speaker 1: and how there was a scene there, but because there's
Speaker 1: not much to do. Yes, he had a lot of
Speaker 1: time to hone his craft, yes, to do music a lot, yes,
Speaker 1: And the weather determines staying in.
Speaker 3: Vancouver is a city where people sit, like go to
Speaker 3: someone's house and smoke weed. That's like the activity your
Speaker 3: experience that is like what people do there or and
Speaker 3: when it's nice out, you go to a not a
Speaker 3: nature place and smoke weed. It's like a very like
Speaker 3: weed was like super prevalent and like it's a huge
Speaker 3: It's like one of the most progressive cities in the
Speaker 3: world when it comes to weed, even in your in
Speaker 3: the night. So you've never been arrested for the right.
Speaker 3: When I moved to l A, I got arrested because
Speaker 3: I didn't understand how much more strict it was, uh
Speaker 3: than it was in Vancouver. Like all throughout high school,
Speaker 3: if we got caught with weed, the cops wouldn't would
Speaker 3: just take it. They wouldn't even always take it. They
Speaker 3: would just be like go away, like like it was
Speaker 3: such jewelow on priority, like on the priorities, because Vancouver
Speaker 3: had like a terrible, terrible heroin problem and it was
Speaker 3: like had a really rough drug problem. And so weed
Speaker 3: very early on became deprioritized and decriminalized. And from when
Speaker 3: I was a kid, there was a coffee shop you
Speaker 3: could go smoke weed in, and there was like indoor
Speaker 3: like places you go inside and smoke weed.
Speaker 2: Seth you never know we would see I have.
Speaker 3: But yeah, when I first moved to la we'd buy
Speaker 3: pounds of Mexican weed. Wait, virgin here was I It
Speaker 3: means lots of seeds and you Reggie, so.
Speaker 2: It's call it Reggie regular weed. But to me, if
Speaker 2: Vancouver has been in the hierarchy of the weed game,
Speaker 2: I would just assume that, like and you're at a.
Speaker 3: Good like hydroponic, you don't want to smoke the seeds.
Speaker 2: Because you know it takes you. That's a sterile part to.
Speaker 3: Wait, I don't know if that's true. Time out, I
Speaker 3: don't know if there.
Speaker 1: That's what That's what I'm saying. Why is it taking
Speaker 1: three years for me to really wait? How are you
Speaker 1: just gonna let you come here and drink your milk?
Speaker 3: Seeds?
Speaker 2: Right? Parents smoke weed with seeds in them, and we
Speaker 2: stole them. We have to pick them out, and it
Speaker 2: pops and burns and seats and seats.
Speaker 3: This leather falls out of the joint. Sometimes.
Speaker 2: My dad's a cut all the time. God damn daddy,
Speaker 2: always smoking in your car looking at them.
Speaker 3: Hosy, I did that.
Speaker 1: You started stand up at a young age?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Fourteen? Yeah, thirteen or fourteen?
Speaker 1: Okay, So the only person I know they had the
Speaker 1: experience with Chappelle.
Speaker 3: Yeah, how I think Eddie Murphy started around that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: so happy much better. How do you.
Speaker 1: How do you even negotiate your way into a club?
Speaker 3: Yeah? My mom helped, She would talk to She drove
Speaker 3: me to every show, literally because I couldn't drive at Yeah,
Speaker 3: And what's funny is very early on it's one of
Speaker 3: those like happy coincidences. I did a show that I
Speaker 3: did a fundraiser when I was like fourteen, a small
Speaker 3: one that the premiere who's like the governor kind of
Speaker 3: of British Columbia, was at and my mother cornered him
Speaker 3: and was like, if my son's performing at a bar,
Speaker 3: can he be in the bar? And the guy was like,
Speaker 3: legally yes, And she caught his office to send a
Speaker 3: letter wow, saying that as long as I was performing,
Speaker 3: it is legal for me to be in the press
Speaker 3: and I and I would have to leave right after.
Speaker 3: So like I would sit backstage and I would show
Speaker 3: it to the club. There was only four clubs anyway,
Speaker 3: but once they had all seen it, they would let
Speaker 3: me perform there. And and then I performed like regularly,
Speaker 3: and I was like, I was like pretty good, Like
Speaker 3: I wasn't what was it?
Speaker 2: Check? Like ad age did you get a check?
Speaker 3: Every once in a while, I would like open for
Speaker 3: a comic and I'd get like one hundred and fifty
Speaker 3: bucks or something like that, which when you're fucking.
Speaker 1: But did you use did you use your your kiddom?
Speaker 1: Did you use your youth?
Speaker 3: I tried not to. I tried to. I would well,
Speaker 3: at first, I didn't at all, and I because I
Speaker 3: was so self conscious about being like gimmicky that I
Speaker 3: would try to tell your fourteen I know, things like
Speaker 3: the rocket as I was very neurotic, and I didn't
Speaker 3: want to be like the kid comics, so I tried
Speaker 3: to write jokes that that any comic would write that
Speaker 3: were like more like observational humor, but it were you Blue.
Speaker 3: I was always wanted Blue. I didn't actually at first
Speaker 3: at all. Also, but then I remember this comic Darryl Lennox,
Speaker 3: who still does stand up and he's great. He was like,
Speaker 3: I was telling you just like like all the cogs
Speaker 3: would make fun of me because I had a joke about
Speaker 3: like crazy glue, what's so crazy about it? And it
Speaker 3: was like the dumb MISSI observational tumer of all time.
Speaker 3: And then and then Darryl I remember like sat me
Speaker 3: down and I was like fifteen, and he was like, dude,
Speaker 3: like you are the only one of us who's like
Speaker 3: experiencing all these things like in real time, Like you're
Speaker 3: trying to kiss girls for the first time, you're trying
Speaker 3: to get your driver's license, you're trying to buy beer,
Speaker 3: you're trying to go to parties, you're trying to sneak
Speaker 3: into strip clubs, like right. Jokes about that, like that's
Speaker 3: something that like everyone's gone through in some way and
Speaker 3: you're living it like right now, and and I was
Speaker 3: like okay. And then that was also one of the
Speaker 3: things that really influenced Super Bad, where we at first
Speaker 3: it was more like let's write a high school movie,
Speaker 3: and then we were like, no, let's write like whenever
Speaker 3: something happens to us, let's put it in the movie,
Speaker 3: and let's make us the characters in the movie, and
Speaker 3: let's like structure it around.
Speaker 1: So those things happened to you guys in super.
Speaker 3: Bed, not on in one night, but almost a lot
Speaker 3: of the stuff in the movie happened, yeah, like in
Speaker 3: some form or another, like.
Speaker 1: And everything you grind it up against the girl, and that.
Speaker 3: Happened at a school dance. Yeah, that that that actually
Speaker 3: And in real life, I was one of the guys,
Speaker 3: Like it played out almost verbatim as it did in
Speaker 3: the movie, except one of our friends was the Jodah
Speaker 3: character in real life, and I was one of the
Speaker 3: guys who was like what is that? Like what's on
Speaker 3: your leg there? And that's what happened. And so, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a school dance and we all put our
Speaker 3: stuff in like the locker roob in like the Jym
Speaker 3: locker roob like before, and we were getting it after
Speaker 3: the dance and yeah, and like one of our friends
Speaker 3: was like, did you spill it yourself? We were there
Speaker 3: like looking at it and then and then what happened?
Speaker 3: And we kind of allude to this to the movies.
Speaker 3: We noticed on the other side of the locker room
Speaker 3: there was another group of guys having the exact same
Speaker 3: conversation and they were all like looking at their friend's
Speaker 3: legs pokagaping like what is that? Did you spill? I mean,
Speaker 3: like the two groups like locked eyes from across the
Speaker 3: room and it was like this, guys are so like
Speaker 3: moment bro. It was like, oh no, I think we
Speaker 3: have a situation on our hands. And then there was
Speaker 3: a lot of like cross referencing who they had danced with, and.
Speaker 1: Wait, I got a preface for two people who haven't
Speaker 1: seen Super Bad. There's there's a crucial scene where there's
Speaker 1: a dance sort of grindy dance moment in which a
Speaker 1: girl rubs her crouch on Jonah Hill's I think it's pronounced.
Speaker 3: I forgot it's inside yea.
Speaker 1: Anyway, I'm una bekno to Jonah Hill. His thighs or
Speaker 1: his jeans are now maroon five. Yes, they got period
Speaker 1: of their bloody period.
Speaker 3: It happened. Oh wait, you're just getting that now.
Speaker 2: I just remember I thought he I couldn't remember on himself.
Speaker 3: Or also on the table that was long shot almost.
Speaker 2: You know.
Speaker 1: My favorite my favorite thing about I visit a lot
Speaker 1: of local comedy houses in New York. My favorite thing
Speaker 1: is actually watching uh people bomb NFL. No, no, only
Speaker 1: because like now I'm entering the stage of my life
Speaker 1: where I'm gonna have to give a lot more public addressing.
Speaker 1: And it's always how you handle yourself in that moment
Speaker 1: that separates the men from the boys. So a lot
Speaker 1: of times, like if you watch, if you go to
Speaker 1: like I love going to the store in LA when
Speaker 1: it's the like the one am show, the very last show,
Speaker 1: and usually like the last three people's are always like
Speaker 1: the doorman, the bell guy, like okay, I'll let you
Speaker 1: go up and do five minutes, like everyone's left the room.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I performed there at that time when I was
Speaker 3: like sixteen years old.
Speaker 1: Because I feel in my mind that whenever I'm watching them,
Speaker 1: then I believe at one point either not Jerard Carmichael,
Speaker 1: who's the guy that I liked, America's Yea, Jamar Nighbors
Speaker 1: was one of those guys and he's hilarious, like he's
Speaker 1: one of Jerrod Carmichael's dudes. But like it's always the
Speaker 1: last three people on the late the graveyard shift that
Speaker 1: I love watching them the most to see how they
Speaker 1: adjust to it. Have you, when you were in sort
Speaker 1: of developing your skills or whatnot, have you ever had
Speaker 1: to resort to what they would call the what's the syndrome?
Speaker 1: Like aristocrat syndrome or when you know that you've done
Speaker 1: a bad set and you're just performing for your buds, like, yeah,
Speaker 1: I fucked up in always did everyone do the aristocrats?
Speaker 3: It was at another thing where I never did that specifically,
Speaker 3: but there was I mean, yeah, shit would go bad
Speaker 3: and they would and there would be times yeah, where
Speaker 3: you would just kind of throw it all out and
Speaker 3: it was like, uh yeah. Like I think managing the
Speaker 3: audience's discomfort is something that is a lesson that I
Speaker 3: learned at a young age, and that like you can
Speaker 3: carry with you across many different avenues of life, and
Speaker 3: I think that that's something that is very valuable. And
Speaker 3: I did it, Yeah, I remember doing But my friends
Speaker 3: could never come watch me though, because I was a
Speaker 3: kid and they weren't allowed it to the club, so
Speaker 3: it was always strangers. But I had times when just
Speaker 3: group tablesful adults would get up and leave. It was
Speaker 3: terrible and they I remember performing at the Impro. I
Speaker 3: remember coming la to audition for the Just for Last
Speaker 3: Festival when I was like fifteen and going to the
Speaker 3: improv and Jerry Seinfeld decided to drop in at the
Speaker 3: Just for Last stand up comedy showcase went on right
Speaker 3: before me fucking annihilated.
Speaker 1: Hey when that happened, When the big star comes in,
Speaker 1: it's like, hey, I'm want to practice that.
Speaker 3: Comedy show Yes on a fucking showcase.
Speaker 2: Did you ever get to tell Jerry what he did
Speaker 2: to you?
Speaker 3: Yes, he could not have been more indifferent. And then
Speaker 3: I went up after him, and I literally, like to
Speaker 3: this day, remember standing on the stage and it being
Speaker 3: so quiet. I could hear the electric hum of the
Speaker 3: s and I'd been doing set up for years at
Speaker 3: that point and I had never heard that sound. Remember
Speaker 3: like thinking to myself like, wow, like have the speaker's
Speaker 3: always been making that sound and I just haven't heard it?
Speaker 3: Or do these ones have like a particularly loud I
Speaker 3: just remember hearing like I was like, oh that's a
Speaker 3: new one. Yeah. It was brutal. So at the time
Speaker 3: I didn't get into the just for last est.
Speaker 1: So Jerry, yes, could you explain how you got inside
Speaker 1: of the I guess the mafia of the what I
Speaker 1: call the app Townia MAFIAU.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it was all I. I was doing
Speaker 3: stand up and I got an agent through stand up.
Speaker 3: And I was like sixteen or seventeen until high school
Speaker 3: was like going to end, and I like was not
Speaker 3: going to go to college. So I was like, I
Speaker 3: should I need money so I should start trying to
Speaker 3: audition for things. And my plan if you asked me
Speaker 3: that point when my plan was I'll be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I'll move to LA after high school and I'll try
Speaker 3: to do stand up.
Speaker 1: And so you wanted to be a straight up stand
Speaker 1: up comment, Yeah, And.
Speaker 3: Then I thought maybe I'll get like on like a
Speaker 3: sitcom that was kind of like the only precedent of
Speaker 3: that in that time. That was like the thing that
Speaker 3: seemed the most achievable because it was like Seinfeld was on,
Speaker 3: like everybody loves Raymond and Martin like that. Like at
Speaker 3: the time, it seemed like if you were a successful
Speaker 3: stand up, you got a sitcom. And I always liked
Speaker 3: movies more and so that was always something that I
Speaker 3: like wanted, but it wasn't as like it didn't seem
Speaker 3: it seemed like the types of movies I wanted to
Speaker 3: make at that time especially were like very small independent movies,
Speaker 3: and at that time, Super Bad seemed like it would
Speaker 3: be like like Rushmore, you know what I mean, like
Speaker 3: not in its artfulness, but just in its scope, you know.
Speaker 3: And I think that then I moved. So I auditioned
Speaker 3: for Freaking Geeks. Was a second audition I got out
Speaker 3: sent out on and the auditioned kids out of Vancouver
Speaker 3: like they did international. Wait, you all were from Vancouver. No,
Speaker 3: they did international, So they auditioned in New York, in
Speaker 3: Chicago and Boston and Toronto and Vancouver, and I like,
Speaker 3: I went in for an audition one morning in Vancouver
Speaker 3: and and then I got it. And then I moved
Speaker 3: to LA and uh, the same people I watched.
Speaker 1: I watched that show in the first man, don't let
Speaker 1: people I know people now like to revision it like yo, man,
Speaker 1: freaking gigs with my ship.
Speaker 3: Man.
Speaker 1: You're like, oh, yeah, well if it was, then why
Speaker 1: why watch it?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: Well I watched it because during the time of us recording,
Speaker 1: Uh do you want more?
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was always a TV on the break.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: So that's how I remember freaking geeks. That was my favorite.
Speaker 1: I thought, oh man, this is way better than my
Speaker 1: so called life years Like.
Speaker 2: Damn, I was just thinking about that as he was
Speaker 2: talking shit, I.
Speaker 1: Can get like, were you excited of the the critical
Speaker 1: claim it got?
Speaker 3: And did you I had no. I was like a
Speaker 3: seventeen year old podhead from Vancouver who like, I had
Speaker 3: no concept of any of that shit. Like I remember being.
Speaker 1: Like, you're in a business man, yet I just didn't.
Speaker 3: I think I was so I was. I was really confident,
Speaker 3: and I felt like everything like when someone's like your's
Speaker 3: everyone loves your show, like it has one hundred percent
Speaker 3: good reviews, I was like, yeah, it's fucking great, like
Speaker 3: like it wasn't like really, it was like, of course
Speaker 3: we're putting out great shit, like there's nothing like this
Speaker 3: on TV, like of course everyone like and if anything,
Speaker 3: that made it more frustrating that no one was watching it,
Speaker 3: because like we knew it was good. And that's like
Speaker 3: I look back on and think, like I didn't even
Speaker 3: think of the quality of the show when I went
Speaker 3: and did it, like I it could have been the world.
Speaker 3: Like I was just like a job, I'll take it.
Speaker 3: And then I remember getting to la and to shoot
Speaker 3: the pilot, and it wasn't even until then that I
Speaker 3: got the full script, like the day before we started filming,
Speaker 3: and then I remember reading it and being like, oh,
Speaker 3: there's like jokes about shrooms in here and shit like that.
Speaker 3: And then we rehearsed for one day and they were
Speaker 3: like what would you say here? And then all of
Speaker 3: a sudden, we were improvising and they were letting us
Speaker 3: add jokes about Hitler and all this stuff, and we
Speaker 3: were like, this is really different. And then when we
Speaker 3: started shooting it, we were like again, Like the director
Speaker 3: was from the independent film world, Jake Kasden had just
Speaker 3: made Zero Effect, which was a movie I was a
Speaker 3: big fan of. So it was like, oh, yeah, we
Speaker 3: have like these writers and directors who were like doing
Speaker 3: the exact stuff that I liked. So when it turned
Speaker 3: out great, it was like again I was So I
Speaker 3: was really like spoiled at that time because I was
Speaker 3: just like, yeah, you make something a Chrystmas.
Speaker 1: Together, Like, Oh, the creator the Larry Sanders Show has
Speaker 1: this new knew that.
Speaker 3: But I didn't. Again, I didn't realize I think, how
Speaker 3: like I didn't realize a how just because you did
Speaker 3: something good before it doesn't mean you'll keep doing things
Speaker 3: that everyone appreciates. Like I was a fan of the
Speaker 3: Larry Sanders Show, a huge fan and grew up watching it,
Speaker 3: and but I didn't like I think when I took
Speaker 3: the when I first got cast on the show, I
Speaker 3: had no idea jud it even I didn't know Judge
Speaker 3: was I know Judd worked on the Larry Sanders Show.
Speaker 3: There was no IMDb at this time. There was no
Speaker 3: way to look up who you were working with. Yeah,
Speaker 3: like I had no idea the internet. Yeah, there was
Speaker 3: no like work. Maybe there's IMDb, but I didn't know
Speaker 3: how to use it. Yeah, there was no like organized
Speaker 3: way of checking any of that ship.
Speaker 2: This is like and did Jane Franklin didn't even hit
Speaker 2: the soap shit right?
Speaker 3: Like no, it was like no one had done anything.
Speaker 3: And so yeah it was. But then it started airing
Speaker 3: as we were shooting, and then they just were like,
Speaker 3: no one's watching this ship. And it was on Saturday
Speaker 3: night at eight or some shit like that against cops.
Speaker 3: I remember just like joking like cops beats us. We're
Speaker 3: fucked and they cops beat us, and it was like, oh.
Speaker 1: No, So when you gunny about Undeclared, no, because again
Speaker 1: I was did you feel like, okay, well we'll do
Speaker 1: a better version.
Speaker 3: I was like, oh, this time, will do like a
Speaker 3: more commercial version and we kind of work out the
Speaker 3: kinks and like again it was like the exact same
Speaker 3: thing happened where it was like very critically acclaimed and
Speaker 3: then no one watched it. But but that but I was.
Speaker 3: I was thrilled, honestly, like a writer and an actor.
Speaker 3: On Undeclared, I was eighteen years old, like it was.
Speaker 3: You know, it was like a very exciting thing for
Speaker 3: me to be doing.
Speaker 1: So, Uh, how hard is it living hand to mouth
Speaker 1: in that period?
Speaker 2: Because are you well he never had a did you
Speaker 2: ever have a regular job or anyone?
Speaker 3: I after undeclared, I didn't work for like three or
Speaker 3: four years. Basically, what did you do? I fucking spent
Speaker 3: very little money, but you still a server and I
Speaker 3: would help. Jud was very nice and he would get
Speaker 3: these super high priced rewriting jobs and then he would
Speaker 3: give me a little bitter to help him do it.
Speaker 3: So like I helped rewrite Bad Boys Too. As an example,
Speaker 3: time wait, time out. First of all, shut app it's out. Yes,
Speaker 3: it's like a secret thing. We wrote that joke, and
Speaker 3: that was in the trailer where they're singing the song
Speaker 3: and they forget the war, they like don't know the world.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, and yeah it was like, yeah, that was
Speaker 3: one of the many things we did so maintenance. So
Speaker 3: what else did you do? Little things here and there?
Speaker 3: Like uh, one of the Big Mama's House movies I
Speaker 3: helped on for a few days.
Speaker 2: Wait, so stop in this moment because I was saying
Speaker 2: this because I know my whole family gonna get mad
Speaker 2: at me. But in this moment, are you understanding your
Speaker 2: white funny man because you know that you are like
Speaker 2: you like, this is a seriously it's a serious question.
Speaker 2: Like nobody else. If you hear the struggles of other
Speaker 2: comedians and things of other colors, women, da da da da,
Speaker 2: there is never a moment where they haven't had to
Speaker 2: like serve or do something that they didn't want to do.
Speaker 2: But it seems like since you were fourteen years old,
Speaker 2: you was on it. You needed final draft, you had it,
Speaker 2: you needed the camera, you had it. You this is
Speaker 2: any moment did you realize this?
Speaker 3: I was super, Yes, I was. I was very Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was never felt particularly downtrodden. I was very I
Speaker 3: felt lucky. I was very I always felt lucky and
Speaker 3: was very fortunate and like and and got that. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean there was a time when I was maybe
Speaker 3: gonna like there was a momentere I was like, I
Speaker 3: might have to move back to Vancouver because I was
Speaker 3: just running out of money and couldn't afford to live
Speaker 3: in la anymore. And that's when I got hired on
Speaker 3: the Algy Show. And that like continued that like yeah,
Speaker 3: and it was like a great. It was like a
Speaker 3: great job to have because like it was even it
Speaker 3: was like it sounded great in a room, Like it
Speaker 3: was like when we went on meetings and we were like, oh,
Speaker 3: we got yeah, we got nominated for Emmys. That was great.
Speaker 3: Like it was something that like basically I haven't stopped
Speaker 3: working since that. It was like that was like the
Speaker 3: thing that kind of kept me.
Speaker 1: Going because his because his brand of comedy sasa very cornant,
Speaker 1: because he's such a rogue, yeah, kind of archy comedian.
Speaker 1: How do you find his voice?
Speaker 3: Like how do you?
Speaker 1: It was like, and the type of stuff he does
Speaker 1: is more strolling.
Speaker 3: It was kind of it was hard, and I think
Speaker 3: he liked and I think it was good that we
Speaker 3: were so young and malleable at this time when we
Speaker 3: were working for him, like we were like twenty two
Speaker 3: or something like that, and so like he could really
Speaker 3: I think without some of like the kid gloves you
Speaker 3: would use with older people, being like here's what you
Speaker 3: have to do, here's what we do. Do exactly fucking
Speaker 3: this and nothing else, forget everything, you know, just do this.
Speaker 3: So he likes like yeah, and and and he would
Speaker 3: literally lock us in a room and be like write
Speaker 3: two hundred interview questions for me to be an interviewing
Speaker 3: like an environmentalist in a tree, like and like, don't
Speaker 3: come out of that room till you've written me two
Speaker 3: hundred questions.
Speaker 2: Well he did.
Speaker 3: Yeah, we came on for Bruno and then we went
Speaker 3: on the road with him. We went to spring Break,
Speaker 3: we did other spring break stuff with Bruno. It was insane.
Speaker 3: He almost got killed.
Speaker 1: What happens when you go to.
Speaker 3: Uh like Daytona Beach. Yeah, it was crazy. What's funny
Speaker 3: is I had to kind of hide because I was
Speaker 3: not famous, but I was like one in every hundred.
Speaker 3: People knew me from freaks and geeks, and so I
Speaker 3: was kind of had to like I was like relegated
Speaker 3: to the hotel room because like they were. He was
Speaker 3: just like the chance that someone sees you and puts
Speaker 3: two and two together is like two great. So, like
Speaker 3: we would travel from city to city and me and
Speaker 3: Evan would literally just sit in a hotel room and
Speaker 3: whatever city we were in and like Andy, they come
Speaker 3: back Elast, yeah exactly. And they would come back and
Speaker 3: they would show us the footage and what they had
Speaker 3: done that day, and we would all just laugh hysterically
Speaker 3: and be amazed that they hadn't gotten killed and like
Speaker 3: it was, uh, it was fun. Yeah, it was great. Wow.
Speaker 1: All right, So I have so many questions about your movies,
Speaker 1: but I'm afraid we'll do just get stuck in one
Speaker 1: of them.
Speaker 3: One but this is it?
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, well, I mean there's so many, but I
Speaker 1: will say that for you know, forty year old Virgin
Speaker 1: was to me like, how how much input are you
Speaker 1: given for scripts? Or how open is Judd to having
Speaker 1: you guys adjust the comedy? The way that it looked,
Speaker 1: it almost seemed like this got to be on the
Speaker 1: spot and he just say keep the cameras rolling.
Speaker 3: A lot of improvised Yeah, I was, I would say,
Speaker 3: like because super Bad had been written and no one
Speaker 3: would make it. And same with Pineapple Express. So you
Speaker 3: was still shopping it actively and me and Evan and
Speaker 3: my especially because Evan was in college at the time
Speaker 3: and wasn't there all the time. Like I was always like,
Speaker 3: people want to see a movie where people talk like this,
Speaker 3: like more than anything. That's what I had a strong
Speaker 3: feeling of, was like they want a comedy where people
Speaker 3: where it's conversational and not so like Plucky and jokey,
Speaker 3: and it just feels like people talking, they're swearing a lot,
Speaker 3: and and and like it's like taking like again because
Speaker 3: we grew up loving pulp fiction and clerks, and we
Speaker 3: were just like, if you can really gear that towards
Speaker 3: like comedy and like in a great way. And and
Speaker 3: since no one would make super Bad Judd like and
Speaker 3: me and him together thought that if we could make
Speaker 3: these the guys who work in the store kind of
Speaker 3: be almost like a it's almost almost like a weird
Speaker 3: testing ground for like that type of conversational comedy, whereas
Speaker 3: Corel's character was this like sweet kind of like island
Speaker 3: in the middle of the movie. We were like, if
Speaker 3: we can make these guys like, why don't we try
Speaker 3: this where we improvise and have it be very conversational
Speaker 3: and you guys can swear a lot and say all
Speaker 3: the sick shit you say to each other that makes
Speaker 3: each other laugh behind the scenes, but we never say
Speaker 3: it on camera, always like that's too much, that's too crazy,
Speaker 3: or people won't like that. But we were like, what
Speaker 3: if we do that on camera, you know? And that
Speaker 3: was really like the first time that any of us
Speaker 3: had done that. I think, like it was they had
Speaker 3: done Anchorman where it was it was different though, because
Speaker 3: the movie is tonally not real, so like it's not
Speaker 3: They improvised a lot, but it wasn't like actual conversations
Speaker 3: because it's like under this umbrella of like a false reality,
Speaker 3: you know. But this was the first time where it
Speaker 3: was literally like you can just say whatever you think
Speaker 3: you would say in this situation and there's no rating,
Speaker 3: like and we had never played in that environment before
Speaker 3: and it was really the first time where we were
Speaker 3: all like, oh, we can really let it rip. And
Speaker 3: I remember the I had improvised that thing about going
Speaker 3: to Tijuana and like seeing a woman fucking a horse,
Speaker 3: and it's like it's like he comes into the or
Speaker 3: he comes it's like Corell comes into work and he
Speaker 3: explained making an egg salad sandwich and he's like, what
Speaker 3: you do this weekend? I'm like, why I went to Tijuaana.
Speaker 3: We went to see this woman horse and like it
Speaker 3: was not that cool, Like it was kind of gross,
Speaker 3: and I remember like and it was like pretty. It
Speaker 3: was like on the scale of like the types of
Speaker 3: things people were saying in movies at that time, on
Speaker 3: like the very far end of the spectrum.
Speaker 1: Which is why I asked you about the Aristocrats exactly.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and so that and we were just making each
Speaker 3: other laugh. And I remember before the first screening we
Speaker 3: were like, if people like, if that works, then like
Speaker 3: then we're fine. Like then all these instincts we have
Speaker 3: of like what people want might be right. And I
Speaker 3: remember like it was like like on like that moment
Speaker 3: was like a life changing moment in many ways, like
Speaker 3: sitting in the theater when that part came on for
Speaker 3: the first time and seeing the audience just like explode
Speaker 3: in laughter, and like you could see it was just
Speaker 3: like shocking to them, but all so funny and also
Speaker 3: felt kind of real. And I remember so many people
Speaker 3: come up to me after we came out and be like,
Speaker 3: you remind me so much of a guy I used
Speaker 3: to work with, And you remind me so much of
Speaker 3: this weirdo who was in the back room at this
Speaker 3: place I would go to and like and and and
Speaker 3: you could see that we were kind of like tapping
Speaker 3: into this like relatable form of comedy that people you
Speaker 3: know at that time. It was like Dumb and Dumber,
Speaker 3: which I love, like it is one of my favorite
Speaker 3: movies ever. But it is not relatable, naturalistic conversational comedy.
Speaker 3: You know, it's huge, crazy gags and very specifically like
Speaker 3: written in staged bits right and very smart.
Speaker 2: Can I just give you credit to for putting an
Speaker 2: actor in their lesser known name, Evin Hart, Kevin Hart,
Speaker 2: the dude Jared, I want to say his name, right, Jerry,
Speaker 2: He's funny. The East Indian guy who's just stopped everyway?
Speaker 3: Is he okay? He is? Okay? The other guy not okay? Yeah,
Speaker 3: I was like, Jerry's fine.
Speaker 2: The one that was working in the store that was
Speaker 2: kept saying nasty ship.
Speaker 3: Yes, what's funny about the guy who mixed up with
Speaker 3: the other guy? Not the other guy who might still
Speaker 3: be in jail. He is in jail, yes, okay, okay, okay, yeah,
Speaker 3: making sure he making sure Rry's great. Yeah, Kevin Hart
Speaker 3: was great. Attempted he did succeed, though, Damn damn.
Speaker 1: It's a shame that happened, because murder is bad and
Speaker 1: I do not like murder.
Speaker 3: You know, the conversations on the South when you have
Speaker 3: to explain that your feeling is murderers back. Let me
Speaker 3: just clarify murders back.
Speaker 1: So what I succeeding.
Speaker 3: What I want to ask is.
Speaker 1: When you got the pitch, When you got the pitch
Speaker 1: for forty old Virgin, Yeah, I'm when you got the
Speaker 1: pitch for knocked Up?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 1: How is it pitched to you so that you wouldn't
Speaker 1: take it personally? Because the thing is because because the
Speaker 1: underhand tone of what knocked Up really is is we're
Speaker 1: gonna pair this hot.
Speaker 3: Girl yeah with like you, I told you it's something.
Speaker 3: It's a joke. I was it. I appreciate you because
Speaker 3: you I was in on the joke, right. That's the thing.
Speaker 1: How do you not do the person I.
Speaker 3: Think and what I always I would actually think of that?
Speaker 3: Like one of the first other pieces of advice a
Speaker 3: stand up comic game. Me when I was like thirteen,
Speaker 3: was like whatever, he what's funny is this stand up
Speaker 3: comic looked exactly like Garth from Wayne's World. Like he
Speaker 3: was like a super skinny dude with long blonde hair
Speaker 3: and glasses. And he was like whatever. He's like, you
Speaker 3: have to let the audience know that you are self
Speaker 3: aware or they'll be uncomfortable. And he's like, so, if
Speaker 3: there's something about you that reads very obviously like don't
Speaker 3: ignore that thing, like let them know you are more
Speaker 3: aware of it than they could ever imagine. And he
Speaker 3: was like, he's like, my whole opening five minutes is
Speaker 3: about that I look like Garth, Like I fucking get it.
Speaker 3: And so I was always aware that I came across
Speaker 3: as like a schlubby, kind of stonery loser, and I
Speaker 3: was not. I wasn't in any way way self conscious
Speaker 3: about representing myself like that because I knew I was
Speaker 3: not that you got super confidence. I was too highly productive.
Speaker 3: I could date women like that that were that were
Speaker 3: well out of my league on a physical level. I
Speaker 3: I like, I had a job, I was gaining I
Speaker 3: had a nice apartment, I had nice car, like I
Speaker 3: was like at that point, like getting successful, you know.
Speaker 3: So it was not it was funny to me. And
Speaker 3: I remember jud we kept pitching these like crazy movies,
Speaker 3: mean and we were trying to make Pineapple Express Man
Speaker 3: like I want a big action movie, and he was
Speaker 3: like that, like he's like, you first just have to
Speaker 3: make something that like establishes who you are in the
Speaker 3: most like normal, relatable type of setting. And he just
Speaker 3: said it conversationally one day. It was literally like like
Speaker 3: like if you got a girl pregnant on the first
Speaker 3: date or something like, that's the type of movie we
Speaker 3: should make. And it was one of those things where
Speaker 3: it was like, oh, we actually could, That's actually a
Speaker 3: really good idea. What would that be like like? And
Speaker 3: him and his wife had got pregnant very early on
Speaker 3: in their relationship, and I think had to make some
Speaker 3: quick decisions as to whether or not they were going
Speaker 3: to kind of stay together and give it a go,
Speaker 3: you know, are just or what the just what the
Speaker 3: dynamics of the relationship were going to be, you know
Speaker 3: what I mean. I think they weren't planning on having
Speaker 3: a kid at that time. From my understanding, yes, exactly.
Speaker 3: Leslie's great, yeah, very funny, and so it was Yeah,
Speaker 3: so it was personal. It was personal to me because
Speaker 3: and I think the way that we were able to
Speaker 3: represent my living situation especially was highly personal to me.
Speaker 3: And all the roommates and and all those guys were
Speaker 3: actually my friends, and I actually had lived with almost
Speaker 3: all of them at one point or another, and so
Speaker 3: like it did seem like I really yeah, yeah, I
Speaker 3: was totally happy with it and thought I would be
Speaker 3: funny with it, you know, And there was a thing
Speaker 3: where I was just I remember being like, oh, I
Speaker 3: can just make this guy like worse and worse and
Speaker 3: worse and like just dumber and dumber and dumber. And
Speaker 3: it's almost like the Bower inappropriate, like the worst thing
Speaker 3: I could say on a date almost is like the
Speaker 3: funnier the whole movie becomes. So yeah, wow.
Speaker 2: Okay, did you and Catherinehige who ever circle back and
Speaker 2: become besties?
Speaker 3: No, we've run into each other, but yeah, I have
Speaker 3: no Yeah, I wish you the best. Get that?
Speaker 1: Yeah, Well, I mean okay, well I guess I'll ask.
Speaker 3: Okay, you don't have.
Speaker 1: No, no, No, it's not that I'm just saying that, is.
Speaker 3: There ever a fear? Okay?
Speaker 1: I go to thirty University and all that entails, you know,
Speaker 1: so I'm in in the io stormly is it's it's
Speaker 1: a university, sess. And now it's a big giant campus.
Speaker 3: In cathedral to which entertainment is built.
Speaker 1: So when you're how hard is it, in your opinion,
Speaker 1: how hard is it for women to get a seat
Speaker 1: at the table.
Speaker 3: Insanely hard, way harder, And.
Speaker 1: In light of what's happening now and how comedy sort
Speaker 1: of has to re examine itself.
Speaker 7: And what was cool in.
Speaker 1: Two thousand and six might get a raised eyebrow.
Speaker 3: Now, how has that eighteen we get a raised eyebrow
Speaker 3: out right?
Speaker 1: Yeah, So how does that affect not not how does
Speaker 1: it affect your world, but how does it affect the
Speaker 1: creative process? The fraternity process?
Speaker 2: Is a woman in the in the team.
Speaker 3: We have women on our team.
Speaker 1: But are you more or is it the climate right
Speaker 1: now in Hollywood?
Speaker 7: Are they super aware of it?
Speaker 3: Now? They say they are, But I don't think a
Speaker 3: lot has changed. And if you look at the movies
Speaker 3: that come out, almost all of them are made by
Speaker 3: white dudes, like you know, like it's very like not
Speaker 3: that the actual like decision to spend hundreds of millions
Speaker 3: of dollars in a new social direction has not happened.
Speaker 3: I don't think. I think people are talking about it,
Speaker 3: and it's like a topic of conversation that's a fun
Speaker 3: for people to say. And I think there's they're like
Speaker 3: inching towards that. But have I seen, like, oh, all
Speaker 3: of a sudden if you look at the slate of
Speaker 3: every major studio and they're all more equally distributed between
Speaker 3: men and women.
Speaker 2: No, that's not the case at all women.
Speaker 3: But yeah, and I think that that. But I think
Speaker 3: for us, I think we're lucky with comedy for us
Speaker 3: because we never like pedaled in that I don't think
Speaker 3: like we never pedled in something that I would have
Speaker 3: considered to be Like, you know, I think our comedy like,
Speaker 3: I'm never complaining that, like about like people being PC
Speaker 3: or like we can't say the stuff that we want
Speaker 3: to be able to say. Like to me, that is
Speaker 3: like not an issue, and like you're either the type
Speaker 3: of person that like you want your you know, your
Speaker 3: work reflects who you are no matter what, and so
Speaker 3: if you have your sensibilities trying to be in the
Speaker 3: right place at any given moment, then your work will
Speaker 3: reflect that. And I've found myself not really having to
Speaker 3: defend that much of what I've done in the moment
Speaker 3: that it has come out. I acknowledge that again a
Speaker 3: week later, you look back and you're like, WHOA, that's
Speaker 3: age poorly sometimes you know, like, yeah, I think there's
Speaker 3: jokes and sausage party that like twenty four hours after
Speaker 3: it came out, we're inappropriate. So maybe twenty four hours
Speaker 3: before it came out, But I think that you know,
Speaker 3: we we try not to be offensive, we try not
Speaker 3: to exclude people in our work. We try to be
Speaker 3: inclusive as possible, and and and we ourselves are those
Speaker 3: types of people. So it isn't this like chore to
Speaker 3: weave that into our work.
Speaker 1: And so I do just know that people now are
Speaker 1: hyper aware that that has to happen or that has
Speaker 1: to be a thing, Whereas you know before you don't think, like, okay,
Speaker 1: it might be inclusive. Am I infending this group or
Speaker 1: that group?
Speaker 3: I think, I think anything we're trying to be aware
Speaker 3: of for the last few years. And I think Neighbors
Speaker 3: is the first movie that we really made really trying
Speaker 3: to go into it acknowledging that traditionally, especially that type
Speaker 3: of relationship that mean rose, like a husband wife relationship
Speaker 3: in a movie is like always done as certain way,
Speaker 3: and we had to not do that, and like it's
Speaker 3: always based on the fact that they hate each other
Speaker 3: and that they're not happy, and that there's all this
Speaker 3: conflict in their relationship and that she's fucking lame most
Speaker 3: of the time and that like he's like the carefree,
Speaker 3: fun one and she's and like so that was I
Speaker 3: think the and it was before all this, you know,
Speaker 3: all the current you know kind of revelations that are happening.
Speaker 3: But even then we were like, just how do we
Speaker 3: not do this in a lame way, you know? And
Speaker 3: how do we And also like, we want the actors
Speaker 3: in the movie to be proud and happy with their work.
Speaker 3: And I think as someone who is both an actor
Speaker 3: and a writer and a director and a producer like I,
Speaker 3: I I understand what all those jobs entail, and I
Speaker 3: understand what it takes to make all the people doing
Speaker 3: those jobs feel like they're really doing something that they
Speaker 3: can be proud of and happy with. And that's something
Speaker 3: that was just started to become very important when I
Speaker 3: started to realize, like, oh, like, if we cast Rose
Speaker 3: Byrne in this role, we have to make it good
Speaker 3: and funny, and we have to make her excited to
Speaker 3: come into work every day, and we have to make
Speaker 3: it that when she leaves work at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, she really felt like she was as funny
Speaker 3: as anyone else and given the opportunity to be as
Speaker 3: funny as anyone else. So wait, not like she was
Speaker 3: told like you tell us to shut up as we
Speaker 3: say funny shit over here, you know, what I mean, how.
Speaker 1: Does that work? Okay, so how does that work? Like
Speaker 1: break it down like we're in third grade? Yeah, all right,
Speaker 1: So if you're heading a project, yeah, and you have
Speaker 1: to write for a specific character that you might not
Speaker 1: really have put a lot of effort or you know,
Speaker 1: like what's their background? And first of all, when you
Speaker 1: write for a character or write for a movie, does
Speaker 1: each character have to have their own bio in your mind?
Speaker 3: Like to some degree I think, like backstory? Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think to some degree, I think it's it depends on
Speaker 3: how in like what's funny is like in this is
Speaker 3: the end? Like none of us really have any backstory.
Speaker 3: We're kind of just who you assume we are and
Speaker 3: you slowly and the emotional conflicts are very of the moment.
Speaker 3: It's based on you know, the word, you're seeing it
Speaker 3: play out in real time basically so. But in general, yes,
Speaker 3: like some sense of backstory is is helpful and the
Speaker 3: more you can think of, the more it's probably good.
Speaker 3: But for I think for something like Neighbors, the conversations
Speaker 3: were literally like how do we create a plot and
Speaker 3: a flow of events where that isn't contingent on these
Speaker 3: two characters having conflict with one another and instead is
Speaker 3: contingent on these two characters really being on the same
Speaker 3: team as one another, and right away that allowed both
Speaker 3: characters to be outrageous and silly and stupid, and neither
Speaker 3: one was trying to control the other. If anything, they
Speaker 3: were always like encouraging the other to do stupid or
Speaker 3: and stupider shit kind of. And so it's more understanding
Speaker 3: the dynamics going in and what the result that will produce.
Speaker 3: So it's like, if we go into the movie with
Speaker 3: this dynamic, the result will be this, And if we
Speaker 3: go and do it this typynamic, the result will be this.
Speaker 3: And so that's something we were aware of, is like,
Speaker 3: if we want the result to be this, the dynamic
Speaker 3: has to be very specific going into it, you know,
Speaker 3: And that that's what we tried to do.
Speaker 1: So kind of a three part question. Yeah, all right, Now,
Speaker 1: in your career, what is your preference would you rather
Speaker 1: lean towards directing a project or writing a project, to
Speaker 1: give to someone else to direct or what I would
Speaker 1: just say blind job, as in doing a project that
Speaker 1: you neither had no directing or no hand in writing it.
Speaker 3: I do that less and less, like I don't act
Speaker 3: in a lot of other people's movies, and I don't
Speaker 3: get asked to do a lot of other people's movies. Vehicles,
Speaker 3: Yeah exactly, But yeah, so it happens, and I do
Speaker 3: do it. Sometimes I think what I'm what I really
Speaker 3: enjoy is writing something with the hopes that I will
Speaker 3: direct it and act in it, which has happened.
Speaker 7: You want to wear all three hats?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Is a nightmare. No, it's it's almost at a weird.
Speaker 3: Thing We've also found is, in some ways, the more
Speaker 3: control we have over something and the more jobs we
Speaker 3: are filling, the less stressful it ultimately is because most
Speaker 3: of our stress comes from fear that other people are
Speaker 3: going to fuck our ship up. And so as long
Speaker 3: as we are controlling it, I'm not that worried. I'm
Speaker 3: more worried is the director going to ruin this thing?
Speaker 1: So that leads to this leads to.
Speaker 3: What have you learned? What?
Speaker 1: What have you learned about?
Speaker 3: Actually?
Speaker 1: I want to do too, what have you learned about?
Speaker 1: Green Hornet and the Simpsons? Which I think for comedy
Speaker 1: writer is sort of like this this honor of Wow,
Speaker 1: I'm doing it, I'm telling a Simpsons episode. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: what lessons have you learned in those two instances that
Speaker 1: you would have changed now or made you wiser? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean Green Hornet was and I'm not a no, no,
Speaker 1: no iconic kid.
Speaker 3: No, Yeah, it's not really Like I think a few
Speaker 3: things when I look back at that. One is I
Speaker 3: really overestimated like our control at that point in our careers.
Speaker 3: Like I think that at that point we had kind
Speaker 3: of always been able to do whatever we wanted, you know,
Speaker 3: And I didn't predict how much a bigger budget, like,
Speaker 3: but all the movies we'd made at that point were
Speaker 3: like twenty thirty million dollars. In Green Hornet was like
Speaker 3: one hundred and twenty million dollars. And I didn't quite
Speaker 3: predict what that hundred million dollars would do to the
Speaker 3: process and how before I would we literally wouldn't talk
Speaker 3: to the studio. Ever, all of a sudden, we were
Speaker 3: having meetings where we go through like every page of
Speaker 3: the script basically, and how like destructive that was to
Speaker 3: the process and how Yeah, and like the biggest, the
Speaker 3: biggest thing was was like we had an idea going
Speaker 3: into it that was slowly like completely you know, deconstructed
Speaker 3: and built into something else. And it's one of those
Speaker 3: things that happened so slowly that like.
Speaker 1: So they took yeah, and then said, well, we need
Speaker 1: to change this to make this.
Speaker 3: The exactly what if we did this, Oh, we need
Speaker 3: a big actor for this role, and what about this,
Speaker 3: and we need this and like but then.
Speaker 1: With Condri directing, Yeah, whom I thought.
Speaker 3: Would be good, I think what he and I've seen
Speaker 3: him since then, like, I think what he didn't predict
Speaker 3: also was the scope of it and how, And that's
Speaker 3: what because I think with artists and you probably can
Speaker 3: relate to this, Like I think the more you do
Speaker 3: your craft or whatever, the more you realize it's not
Speaker 3: only what you are doing, but it is how you
Speaker 3: were doing it. Like, if you're a painter, you not
Speaker 3: only want to choose what to paint, you want to
Speaker 3: choose what paint you use, and you want to make
Speaker 3: your own canvas maybe, and you want to choose where
Speaker 3: you painted and all this stuff, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: But with film it's sometimes that gets wrestled away from you,
Speaker 3: where it's like here's the shot I want and here's
Speaker 3: how I think we should do it, and they'll be like, Nope,
Speaker 3: too expensive, here's how you're gonna do it and and
Speaker 3: that and that ruins the process, especially when you have
Speaker 3: a director like Gondry. And what I realized, I think
Speaker 3: what he realized is like his whole magic is not
Speaker 3: only in what he's doing, it's how he's doing it right.
Speaker 3: It's the materials used, literally, and that did not always
Speaker 3: apply to this scope of filmmaking basically and uh and
Speaker 3: it was just like uh, an inorganic combination of elements.
Speaker 3: And then there was a point, I think where you're
Speaker 3: just kind of like, this seems like it's going poorly.
Speaker 3: I slept terribly throughout the whole thing.
Speaker 1: You felt you felt, even yea during the process like
Speaker 1: this might not get out good for sure.
Speaker 3: It was like because it was rocky for like the
Speaker 3: year leading up to it. And there was a point
Speaker 3: and this was also something I would probably do differently now,
Speaker 3: Like we had just spent years working on it, and
Speaker 3: there's a moment where you're like do we stop or
Speaker 3: just keep going? Because like after years it was it
Speaker 3: felt weird to just stop anywhere. It was just like,
Speaker 3: I think we just have to see this through, like
Speaker 3: and and that is something that I probably wouldn't do now. Honestly,
Speaker 3: I think after that experience, I would just be like,
Speaker 3: let's just pull the plug and maybe we all wasted
Speaker 3: three years, but maybe we all learned a lot in
Speaker 3: that three years and have some good experiences. But I
Speaker 3: think like that's something at the time that I wasn't
Speaker 3: prepared to do, which was just say like, you know what, like,
Speaker 3: let's not fucking do this, you know.
Speaker 1: So my parallel question to you is, Okay, now, as
Speaker 1: a person that's been doing what I've been doing at
Speaker 1: least what I'm known for uh twenty five plus years,
Speaker 1: you know, we kind of had this discussion like are
Speaker 1: we sabotaging ourselves but not like wanting to go to
Speaker 1: bigger houses?
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like we're now in the.
Speaker 1: Place where it's like, hey, you guys do know that
Speaker 1: we could book a night at blah blah blah. Yeah,
Speaker 1: if you guys had the album time whatever immediate thing
Speaker 1: was fear like, no, I don't want to play you know,
Speaker 1: seventeen thousand, da da da, because I feel like my
Speaker 1: zone has always been in smaller theaters. Yeah, so for you,
Speaker 1: is is a nine figure budget sort of like a
Speaker 1: dragnet horns.
Speaker 3: It's like, like, would you attempt.
Speaker 1: To really go big or do you feel that, you know,
Speaker 1: when you do lower budget stuff, then.
Speaker 3: I think now in order, we're writing a movie now
Speaker 3: that would be expensive, like a pretty expensive movie, not
Speaker 3: quite Green Heart, but.
Speaker 1: I mean like a popcorn film, like yes, but like
Speaker 1: a Summer of twenty twenty one.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but like, but we're really trying to make it
Speaker 3: have all the stuff that we like out of movies,
Speaker 3: but we're trying to make like it's a more it's
Speaker 3: still like an R rated like action comedy basically, but
Speaker 3: we're the types of movies that are in theaters have changed,
Speaker 3: and I think that's something that we're also aware of,
Speaker 3: is we like a lot of what are It's interesting,
Speaker 3: Like we work backwards to some degree from like audience reaction,
Speaker 3: and we go to movies and we sit in theaters
Speaker 3: and you know, what makes people cheer and what makes
Speaker 3: people laugh, and what makes people shocked and what makes
Speaker 3: people scared, and that changes over the course of years,
Speaker 3: you know, like the things. You know, there's some movies
Speaker 3: that have come out that ten years ago got a
Speaker 3: certain reaction in theaters, and that same thing would not
Speaker 3: seem very exciting by today's standards. That shocking by today's standards,
Speaker 3: and so we are trying to evolve. We instinctually must
Speaker 3: evolve with the climate. And and we like making movies
Speaker 3: for theaters, and we creatively think backwards a lot from
Speaker 3: what would make a theater full of people have like
Speaker 3: this experience, Like what would make a theater full of
Speaker 3: people be on edge and then excited and then laughing
Speaker 3: and then sad and and and in or. But the
Speaker 3: theater part is the tricky part because a lot of
Speaker 3: movies like Super Bad today, for example, probably wouldn't be
Speaker 3: in theaters. It be hard to get it in theaters,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. Knocked Up even would more
Speaker 3: likely be a Netflix movie today. It's just people talking
Speaker 3: in rooms. Like there's no you know, there's no big
Speaker 3: action in it, there's no like it's literally people sitting
Speaker 3: and talking for two hours, you know, like we go
Speaker 3: to circus.
Speaker 1: Organically, it wouldn't happen. But I mean, you gotta admit
Speaker 1: that you're coming from the canon of the app Town
Speaker 1: Apptown Mafia. Yeah, so even by six degrees of separation,
Speaker 1: like you know, you would you personally would have to myself,
Speaker 1: you would I would think you'd have to release eight
Speaker 1: bona Fide below ten rotten to me before I'm like
Speaker 1: n ninety seen Seth Morgan.
Speaker 3: You know, not all horror movies do well. I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, like, but even then I'm aware of it.
Speaker 1: It's still yeah, there's still some thing where it's like, oh,
Speaker 1: you're in it.
Speaker 3: It might be good. Yeah, you know, it's out there,
Speaker 3: but it's still like it's harder to get movies in
Speaker 3: theaters and it's harder to compete for the cultural attention
Speaker 3: like that, I think, and that to us is very
Speaker 3: important also is we like it when we make We've
Speaker 3: seen that in the past. We've made movies that like
Speaker 3: work their way into culture and they're referenced in rap
Speaker 3: songs and in other movies and on TV shows, and
Speaker 3: we like that, like we And that's not always a
Speaker 3: one to one thing with like success, it's just you know,
Speaker 3: it's something that only happens though really with movies that
Speaker 3: are in theaters, like movies on Netflix, it's are just
Speaker 3: streaming movies. It's much harder for them to capture a
Speaker 3: piece of the culture. And a movie like Mid Nineties,
Speaker 3: which was seen probably by one iota the amount of
Speaker 3: people that sees the average Netflix movie capture the cultural
Speaker 3: attention in a way that very few Netflix movies do
Speaker 3: because it was in theaters and when people saw it,
Speaker 3: they turned their phone off for two hours and they
Speaker 3: sat in a dark room and they actually watch it,
Speaker 3: And you don't do that with Netflix movies. And I
Speaker 3: think that is going to become when I look at
Speaker 3: why I want movies and theaters, that is it like.
Speaker 2: But that's not all the way true. Those stuff I
Speaker 2: was gonna tell you, Like some certain movies command you
Speaker 2: to turn off the lights, watch watched, like when The
Speaker 2: Irishman was one of those. This season, Dolamite was one
Speaker 2: of those season. It just depends, I think.
Speaker 3: Some I think for some people they choose.
Speaker 1: To watch Everythriend's just gonna have Nero Patinos.
Speaker 3: And there's a million people watching The Irishman like as
Speaker 3: they're on Twitter. Yes, I mean, And if it's in
Speaker 3: the theater, you don't even have watch like you have
Speaker 3: to watch it.
Speaker 1: And I think I saw it in the theater me too.
Speaker 1: I didn't want to watch me too, Netflix, and I
Speaker 1: love it.
Speaker 3: And I think when you put a movie in the theater,
Speaker 3: you're telling culturally. You were saying, like this is worth
Speaker 3: you putting your phone in your pocket for two hours, like,
Speaker 3: and you're asking people to do that, and that asks.
Speaker 3: It is a big ask, and I think that to
Speaker 3: that end, that's why we're writing a very expensive, big
Speaker 3: fun We understand what we're asking is not a light ask.
Speaker 3: We're asking you to give up your timon and in
Speaker 3: order to do that, we have to repay you with
Speaker 3: something that is worthy of it.
Speaker 2: So can I ask it apatole Mafia question? And for
Speaker 2: that reason, I'm gonna go back to something that I
Speaker 2: wanted to ask you guys when y'all were having the
Speaker 2: back and forth. Do y'all ever consider because as a
Speaker 2: woman of color, being a fan of what you guys do,
Speaker 2: I love it. Wouldn't change it, blah blah blah. However,
Speaker 2: time to change it, and not for nothing. I would
Speaker 2: be curious to see how a woman of color would
Speaker 2: be written to some of these situations, right, because when
Speaker 2: you look at the majority of the movies that you
Speaker 2: guys do, like you said, I know you introduced the
Speaker 2: rose burn situation, but not really so have y'all started
Speaker 2: considering maybe yes, maybe the next thing. Maybe I don't
Speaker 2: know yet, but you're working on.
Speaker 3: Something, Yes, very much. I mean it is a prevalent
Speaker 3: topic of conversation.
Speaker 2: But not on perfect I don't want you to do
Speaker 2: it just because oh my god, everybody's demanding that we
Speaker 2: have a woman and then we have to have a
Speaker 2: woman of color. But just because you see that, hey
Speaker 2: wait a minute, that would be funny to get that
Speaker 2: perspective in this storyline.
Speaker 3: No, and like, yeah, I mean it's something that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, the more perspectives and the more different people
Speaker 3: you have working on your material, the better it all is. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I mean, we produce the show Black Monday with Don Cheatle.
Speaker 2: And Regina and.
Speaker 3: It's great and the Preacher. Yeah, and we've just seen
Speaker 3: and and it is in Preacher exactly. We've seen it's
Speaker 3: very rewarding and and and and it and people get great.
Speaker 3: You know. It's the more representation the better. I would
Speaker 3: never argue otherwise, but I want to see.
Speaker 2: You like I got I love the Daun Cheat in
Speaker 2: the Regina Hall. But I was like, man, I want
Speaker 2: to see that'd be great.
Speaker 1: I'm in OK So in the hindsight, the like I
Speaker 1: was paying attention to it, but I don't recall I
Speaker 1: remember the email fallouts with Sony. Yeah, with the interview,
Speaker 1: did was it worth it?
Speaker 3: Uh? Yeah? Because it was crazy and like and did
Speaker 3: not to us like other people, I mean talk about sexism.
Speaker 3: Like the only real person to be horribly damaged by
Speaker 3: it was Amy Pascal, her boss, Michael Litton. He wasn't damaged,
Speaker 3: but but she was terribly damaged. Wait, just collect me
Speaker 3: if I'm wrong.
Speaker 1: The the fallout, the fallout of the damn with the
Speaker 1: interview was if you guys released this, we'll hack into
Speaker 1: your emails.
Speaker 3: And then they eventually they had her. They had already
Speaker 3: hacked into Sony and they eventually threatened to like bomb
Speaker 3: movie theaters that played the movie basically, and that's why
Speaker 3: they pulled. Okay, so it was released stream or was
Speaker 3: it Google play? I've seen ITAs. I just forgot where
Speaker 3: Google released it, and then Netflix released it all within
Speaker 3: like Google released Actually the day was supposed to come
Speaker 3: out in theaters and the Netflix released it two weeks later. Okay,
Speaker 3: And again, was it was it worth it? It was?
Speaker 3: I mean, it was like it was a really interesting exercise,
Speaker 3: like I don't the result of which is still fascinating
Speaker 3: and I don't even when you say is it worth it.
Speaker 3: I don't even I'm not even sure anyone knows what
Speaker 3: the fuck actually happened. Like, there was a big article
Speaker 3: in the Hollywood Reporter the other day that was like,
Speaker 3: what really happened in the Sony Hack? Can you read
Speaker 3: the article and you're just like, there's no, I don't
Speaker 3: know what happened. I don't know what happened. People don't.
Speaker 3: They're not sure North Korea did it. They don't. Like no,
Speaker 3: people people think they did. So like, it's hard to
Speaker 3: it's hard to retrospectively gain a lot of insight from
Speaker 3: something where you honestly aren't even sure what the fuck happened,
Speaker 3: like as a movie, honestly, to me, the most the
Speaker 3: biggest bubber is that the movie got pretty shitty reviews
Speaker 3: and that doesn't happen to us that often, and that
Speaker 3: that bummed me out, Like honestly, yeah, it was like
Speaker 3: for us, like pretty bad. And so that to me
Speaker 3: was the thing that if I look back and could
Speaker 3: change something, I'd be like, oh, I wish the second
Speaker 3: act had like a better set piece in it, and
Speaker 3: I wish like we rounded out the third act more emotionally.
Speaker 3: But I but like, because that was the stuff that
Speaker 3: was in my control, you know what I mean, Like
Speaker 3: the actual product, the film was the thing we were
Speaker 3: in control of. And what I'm yeah, what I don't
Speaker 3: love is that it just wasn't received as well as movies.
Speaker 1: It's just hit me, and I know we're gonna wind
Speaker 1: up pretty soon, but uh, it just hit me that
Speaker 1: you're one of the cameos in one of Yauk's last pieces. Yes,
Speaker 1: make some No, I'm about to call it fight for
Speaker 1: You Right too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, make video.
Speaker 7: Yeah, there was an incidented version that was called fight
Speaker 7: for Your Right review.
Speaker 1: So how did that? How was that picture come together?
Speaker 3: Just?
Speaker 1: Oh, man, were you guys aware at the time what
Speaker 1: his condition was? And this was sort of like their
Speaker 1: swan song.
Speaker 3: We kind of got that sense as we were shooting it,
Speaker 3: Like I knew he had been sick, but I there
Speaker 3: was kind of like the public word on this on
Speaker 3: the street was that he was getting better, you know.
Speaker 3: And then he just called me. One day, I got
Speaker 3: a call from Adam Hill Coke call. Yeah, and it
Speaker 3: was just like the greatest fucking phone call you ever got.
Speaker 3: A huge BC Boys fan my whole life, Like I'd
Speaker 3: met him once or twice before at like south By Southwest,
Speaker 3: I think, and yeah, and he was just like, we're
Speaker 3: making a music video and I want you to be
Speaker 3: Mike d And that was fucking great. And then we
Speaker 3: shot that video for three days, which is crazy for
Speaker 3: a music video, and and every famous person ever was
Speaker 3: in and I think it was like halfway through day
Speaker 3: two where I was like, oh, this is like a
Speaker 3: kind of like a big last Tura Swan song. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and and then it got kind of sad and bittersweet
Speaker 3: but was also fun. And like when when I look
Speaker 3: back and think of was like he was just telling
Speaker 3: like it was literally like we were all his like
Speaker 3: g I Joe toys and he was just playing with us,
Speaker 3: and it was like for your birthday, here's all your
Speaker 3: favorite comedians and they'll do whatever the fuck you tell
Speaker 3: them to do for three days straight on this New
Speaker 3: York City backlot and like that's literally like he would
Speaker 3: just be laughing, Daddy, kick the store in except throw
Speaker 3: this bear at him, you guys, dance on the cop
Speaker 3: car and like and he would just be like laughing
Speaker 3: his ass off as we were just like what like
Speaker 3: there was no questions, there was It was never like
Speaker 3: why would I do that? He was just like sure, yeah, whatever,
Speaker 3: whatever the fuck you want, We're it and like we
Speaker 3: and it started to kind of imitate the video itself
Speaker 3: because we were there all the time, Me and Danny
Speaker 3: and Elijah who were the Beastie Boys, and then other
Speaker 3: cameos would come in for like a couple hours and
Speaker 3: we were like this mindset. It was like crazy. We
Speaker 3: were just like so geared to just do whatever we
Speaker 3: were told to do with Eddie, like if they were
Speaker 3: just like body slam Laura Dirt, I was like all right,
Speaker 3: was like no, Like I was just like in this
Speaker 3: like state of like I'll just do whatever the fuck
Speaker 3: this guy tells me. That's what we're here for. And
Speaker 3: you could see people would come in and be like
Speaker 3: this is crazy, Like what are you guys doing in here?
Speaker 3: This is like you you've gone nuts? And that really
Speaker 3: like we were just spraying beer, a fake beer on
Speaker 3: everyone's faces, like throwing like we Yeah, it was it
Speaker 3: was a mad.
Speaker 2: Danny McBride must be like he writes too correct.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he writes eastpounding down and the righteous Gemstone right,
Speaker 3: So yeah.
Speaker 2: He must be like awesome to work. In my mind,
Speaker 2: everybody who was in this is the end in a
Speaker 2: way to do their own writing, but who is like
Speaker 2: awesome to write with? It blows your mind and you
Speaker 2: just like the fuck you come up with that shit?
Speaker 3: They're all great in their own ways. Like yeah, like
Speaker 3: Danny Jonah is truly the one like on set is
Speaker 3: like it's pretty remark to watch, like he's he he's
Speaker 3: like he gets like very locked in and is like
Speaker 3: it's like a pretty miraculous thing. From time to time,
Speaker 3: Danny is very loose and had and biting and like
Speaker 3: he's the comedian that kind of the other comedians are
Speaker 3: a little afraid to improvise with because yeah, because but
Speaker 3: he's very sweet and nice. But it was like I
Speaker 3: saw him once and he don't know, you know, he's
Speaker 3: very sweet, such a nice dude and like not and
Speaker 3: what's it is one of those funny things where like
Speaker 3: he created those characters as a way to make fun
Speaker 3: of the guys he didn't like growing up. Basically that
Speaker 3: is who he is and his biggest fan base is
Speaker 3: probably which is a bummer. Videos.
Speaker 1: How how did Kanye contact you to do Bound?
Speaker 3: Well, hey, you know you did on your just did
Speaker 3: it on our own and then he did really yes,
Speaker 3: and then he did ask so he just released it.
Speaker 3: We released it, he did it, No, we just did it.
Speaker 3: He released his video and literally within an hour of
Speaker 3: seeing it, I was like, we're recreating it, and we
Speaker 3: had ours up like twenty four hours later. Like it was.
Speaker 1: It was I've never seen Kanye's version.
Speaker 3: Oh, that's funny. You just saw ours?
Speaker 1: Fun fat I never seen Kanye.
Speaker 2: Wait, it's okay, I never seen found.
Speaker 4: That.
Speaker 9: Wow, you wait, what's what's that Patino film? Okay, I'm
Speaker 9: reading it.
Speaker 3: What's the film?
Speaker 1: Not Donnie Frosco's way.
Speaker 3: You were the end of his way.
Speaker 1: When you think they're gonna get away with it, He's like, hey, no,
Speaker 1: you go here and.
Speaker 3: You just the Yeah, he came in shy, he stabbed you. No,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 1: I've seen the college drap out ones, but I haven't
Speaker 1: seen post that.
Speaker 3: No, but he did ask us to come do it
Speaker 3: at his wedding. Wow Franco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't understand.
Speaker 3: He called us and was like, will you come do
Speaker 3: that at my wedding? And did you know it? Well know,
Speaker 3: Like it was one of those things were like throughout
Speaker 3: the conversation, I like you thought willed him to realize
Speaker 3: how uncomfortable it would be, which he slowly did he
Speaker 3: and I was just like, so just and he's just
Speaker 3: like he's like, as I say this, I realized how
Speaker 3: fucking uncomfortable. He's like, it would be funny for ten seconds.
Speaker 3: But he's like, I've asked you to fly to her
Speaker 3: side for like literally ten seconds and ship He's like,
Speaker 3: we shouldn't do it.
Speaker 1: But I mean, I mean, you you lived, you lived
Speaker 1: a charm sort of bucket listy life. I want to know,
Speaker 1: did a project ever get away from you that you
Speaker 1: had your eyes.
Speaker 3: On that you wish you I wish we did, like you.
Speaker 1: Had a chance to no write or direct, blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: But there are things like no, I mean, yeah.
Speaker 1: Did Lynn Manuel come up to Hamilton.
Speaker 3: Get away from your kid? No? There are things that
Speaker 3: like that we that came across our desk that then
Speaker 3: became very successful. But I don't think when I look like, oh, like,
Speaker 3: should we have really like spent like two years making
Speaker 3: like you know, like Hobbs and Shaw, Like, I don't know,
Speaker 3: like maybe it would have been fun or like yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean I don't know if it was like outwardly offered,
Speaker 3: but there was a point where it's like, come in,
Speaker 3: you want to meet on the hobs and char movies
Speaker 3: like Deadpool Baby years ago, like a very long time.
Speaker 3: But like I think that it's not it just wasn't
Speaker 3: our thing, you know what I mean, Like we weren't like, uh,
Speaker 3: the idea like plugging in. I think that's what green
Speaker 3: Hornet scared us off of more than anything. Was like
Speaker 3: plugging into this like saying yeah exactly, and plugging into
Speaker 3: like an IP that is like very established, yeah, already established,
Speaker 3: and having to like work within that. So like like
Speaker 3: and working with like a big company is like just scary,
Speaker 3: like working with like a Marvel or you know, like
Speaker 3: and not to say we wouldn't do it, it's just
Speaker 3: it's just scary, you know. And and I think and
Speaker 3: making like a friend yeah, like making like a Hobbs
Speaker 3: and Shot type movie where it's just like this movie's
Speaker 3: gonna get made no matter what. We're just the people
Speaker 3: like you know, serving you the dish.
Speaker 1: Well, the silver lining of green horn is that you
Speaker 1: got your health in check.
Speaker 3: Yes, and it started working out. Yeah I know, well yeah, no,
Speaker 3: it was a lot of good and we learned and
Speaker 3: like so much like we that movie was made in
Speaker 3: a way movies aren't made anymore, Like we built everything.
Speaker 3: It was practical effects, it was visual effects. There was
Speaker 3: there was huge stunt teams. There was like literally the
Speaker 3: stunt team that did Indiana Jones did the movie. Like
Speaker 3: we got to learn from these like amazing people, and
Speaker 3: and Gondry himself was someone who was amazing to learn from.
Speaker 3: And even though the result was debatable, Like I think
Speaker 3: very few experiences made us understand the production process and
Speaker 3: filmmaking in general more than that movie because it was
Speaker 3: as logistically complicated a movie as as exists in the world,
Speaker 3: and we had like a front row seat to every
Speaker 3: step of the process. So that was really interesting. Yeah, wow,
Speaker 3: which that made a better movie?
Speaker 2: Cans Stone a question real quick, because I remember famously
Speaker 2: listening to you on Stern one day and he was
Speaker 2: asking you about working out and working out why you
Speaker 2: were smoking, and you were like, yeah, I take you
Speaker 2: a couple of totes.
Speaker 3: Do you do that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've done it in its little weird when I
Speaker 2: do everything. Number One, I want you to give advice
Speaker 2: a young Stoners because I think you have to graduate
Speaker 2: to that level. Yeah, and I wanted to know when
Speaker 2: you got to the point where you knew that you
Speaker 2: could do everything Stone that's that's like next level.
Speaker 3: It takes a while.
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell a baby, that's.
Speaker 3: Baby, Yeah exactly. For I like the thing most people,
Speaker 3: I'm always telling people to smoke a little bit of wheed,
Speaker 3: like to take one hit of wheat. That's what. Like.
Speaker 3: I just I was just with David Chay on his
Speaker 3: Netflix show and like we went around smoked weed all day,
Speaker 3: and I just the whole time was like one little
Speaker 3: tiny hit and that'll get you going for you'll be
Speaker 3: fine and like like or set a timer, take one
Speaker 3: hit and then see you feel in twenty minutes and
Speaker 3: then maybe have another hit. But like most people just
Speaker 3: make way too much weed, and who don't smoke a
Speaker 3: lot of weed, And weat is super strong and one
Speaker 3: hit is enough literally and get any strange.
Speaker 1: I'm also I'm also a reactor.
Speaker 2: Yeah, why do you do you smoke the tea?
Speaker 1: I'm yeah, well I prefer uh was it. I'm like
Speaker 1: so new. I'm literally like seven months into this, so.
Speaker 2: We've been trying for thirty years.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 1: But but the thing is when I do it, it
Speaker 1: always hits me at the most inopportune moment, like I'll
Speaker 1: do it all right.
Speaker 7: One time I.
Speaker 1: Did it at night, Yeah, and it felt a little weird, like,
Speaker 1: oh God, let me just sit down and relax. I
Speaker 1: fell asleep right and woke up in the morning. It's like,
Speaker 1: oh damn, I didn't get high. That was a waste.
Speaker 1: And then twenty minutes and then twenty minutes into my
Speaker 1: day right when I got on the drum set of fell.
Speaker 3: And all.
Speaker 2: From the night before.
Speaker 3: That's weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that is weird.
Speaker 7: I have well, see I do edibles.
Speaker 3: I don't. I don't smoke, are on, don't do I
Speaker 3: do edibles very sparingly because they're wildly unpredicted. Yeah like that,
Speaker 3: Like they're they're hard to it's hard to get them. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's hard to get the dose, is right. It's hard
Speaker 3: to time them. Sometimes it depends on what. Sometimes they
Speaker 3: take an hour to kick in, two hours to kick in,
Speaker 3: depends what. It takes five hours.
Speaker 2: The stone is around you. Do you ever see Steve
Speaker 2: eating his weed?
Speaker 1: If you eat your weed, there's none left to smoke.
Speaker 3: Forgive me.
Speaker 1: Again, my my my final question is uh, Oftentimes, like
Speaker 1: right now, I'm watching The Morning Show, which is notably
Speaker 1: everyone I've knew them. I knew them from the funny world,
Speaker 1: the comedy world. But yeah, they're doing drama. Like, would
Speaker 1: you consider because you did Steve Jobs correct the movie?
Speaker 3: No, I did Steve Jobs.
Speaker 1: Technical, would you want to further explore into the world
Speaker 1: of drama?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 1: And what role are you? What is your like your
Speaker 1: fantasy thing that you haven't done yet that you really
Speaker 1: want to do.
Speaker 3: We're writing that. I mean, that's what's nice about being
Speaker 3: able to write your own movies, is like, I've no
Speaker 3: one to blame but myself for if if my career
Speaker 3: seems limited in scope as an actor, Like yeah, i mean,
Speaker 3: what uh, the thing we're working on now, I'm obsessed
Speaker 3: with like Buster Keaton and Jackie Chan and so, like,
Speaker 3: I've always wanted to make like a highly physical, like
Speaker 3: action movie, like our action comedy, like something that is
Speaker 3: almost entirely predicated on action and not a lot of
Speaker 3: talking at all. And that has just always been something
Speaker 3: that I always enjoy shooting that type of stuff. And
Speaker 3: so that's something that we want to do, and that's
Speaker 3: what we're working on right now. You're kind of like
Speaker 3: a really violent mister bean.
Speaker 1: All right, well, you know, Seth, we really thank you.
Speaker 1: Damn we didn't even get to your your hip hop.
Speaker 3: It's just that you like hip hop. I love it anyway.
Speaker 1: No, we really want to thank you for coming to you.
Speaker 1: Yes on behalf of Sugar Steve and Unpaid Bill and
Speaker 1: Boss Bill and lie In. This is quest Love. You've
Speaker 1: been listening to Quest Love Supreme. Thank you very much, Seth.
Speaker 1: We will see you on the next go round. Happy
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