WEBVTT - Questlove Supreme: Seth Rogen 0:00:00.520 --> 0:00:10.200 Quest Love Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. Wait what stop? 0:00:10.800 --> 0:00:14.200 Stop the thing, stop the theme, keep it going, stop the theme. 0:00:14.560 --> 0:00:17.120 Wait you said that if you sit next to Seth Rogan, 0:00:17.160 --> 0:00:18.680 you're gonna be rich on. 0:00:18.600 --> 0:00:21.040 The first of January. Yes, if I started the year 0:00:21.120 --> 0:00:21.640 sitting next to. 0:00:21.560 --> 0:00:25.720 Seventh, yeah, I'm gonna be rich and funny. Okay, here 0:00:25.720 --> 0:00:25.919 we go. 0:00:27.040 --> 0:00:34.360 Supreme Supremo, roll Call, Suprema Sun s Supremo, roll Call, 0:00:34.880 --> 0:00:40.120 Suprema something Something, Supremo, roll Call, Suprema. 0:00:39.720 --> 0:00:44.360 Son Son, Supremo, roll Now Quest Love here thinking, Yeah, 0:00:44.479 --> 0:00:48.280 which is which? Yeah? Maybe I need to switch my seat. Yeah, 0:00:48.320 --> 0:00:51.239 so I too can get rich Supreme. 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:57.160 I'm just saying Supremo, roll Call, Suprema something Something, Supremo, 0:00:57.400 --> 0:00:59.200 roll call Sugar. 0:00:59.600 --> 0:01:00.080 Yeah. 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:03.400 Yeah, I'm a mess. Yeah, I've been smoking way too 0:01:03.480 --> 0:01:05.280 much Pineapple expressed. 0:01:06.640 --> 0:01:13.920 Supreme Suprema, Roll Suprema Suprema roll Call. 0:01:14.120 --> 0:01:18.039 This is boss Bill. Yeah, back again, my friends. Yeah, 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.399 this is the third line. 0:01:19.640 --> 0:01:21.119 Yeah, and this is the end. 0:01:22.600 --> 0:01:30.039 Suprema Sun Supremo, roll Call, Supreme Supremo, roll call. 0:01:31.520 --> 0:01:34.480 Yeah with Seth of course. Yeah, I don't know what 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.400 to tell you. Yeah, this will be better than a horse. 0:01:39.720 --> 0:01:45.840 You went to a dark place. Suprema Supremo roll call. 0:01:45.959 --> 0:01:50.480 My name is Seth. Yeah, I'm feeling old, yeah handed 0:01:50.560 --> 0:01:53.840 New York. Yeah, I'm fucking cold. 0:01:54.480 --> 0:02:01.440 Supreme up Son Son Suprema roll call Supreme, so Supreme. 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:05.520 Roll, Supreme, Supreme roll. 0:02:08.400 --> 0:02:13.359 So this is how we're going to start. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:17.880 We're going to this is a bad omen all right. 0:02:19.639 --> 0:02:22.080 The God saw to it that we should have no 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:26.480 more theme. Get to it, ladies and gentlemen. Uh, this 0:02:26.560 --> 0:02:32.360 is the newly rich neuvau Reese Quest Love another episode. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:35.560 Happy New Year. This is January first, twenty twenty. 0:02:35.800 --> 0:02:38.000 Everybody, how do you feel good? 0:02:38.240 --> 0:02:40.840 Old and cold? 0:02:40.880 --> 0:02:45.840 How is your How is your holiday? Your festivities? 0:02:46.040 --> 0:02:47.400 It was old and cold. 0:02:47.960 --> 0:02:50.600 No, we had a great time, of course, Okay, all great. 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:52.240 We can't remember did the checks come through? 0:02:52.320 --> 0:02:52.480 Yeah? 0:02:52.520 --> 0:02:57.079 The honk check's clear. So well. I'm actually shocked because 0:02:57.280 --> 0:03:01.839 whenever any of your brother come on the show, your 0:03:01.919 --> 0:03:05.639 your you always your roll call is usually geared towards 0:03:05.880 --> 0:03:06.960 you call. 0:03:07.080 --> 0:03:09.839 Yeah, yeah, start incorporating the Jewy Park, but just left 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:11.280 it with the stone a stoner. 0:03:11.840 --> 0:03:14.919 I think. Yeah, I'm about to say, I think are 0:03:15.040 --> 0:03:22.280 pretty like there's a lot of overlap. Would not anyway. 0:03:23.080 --> 0:03:25.840 I'm your host Questlove, joined to day by my croonies, 0:03:26.480 --> 0:03:32.239 Boss Bill Sugar, Steve unpaid bills. Surprisingly isn't here? Yeah, boy, 0:03:32.400 --> 0:03:33.200 is he not coming? 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:35.640 Or did we call him? Did we let him know? 0:03:35.880 --> 0:03:38.080 Let him? You know he does play streets and stuff. 0:03:38.360 --> 0:03:41.480 Okay, so he can muppets enough bagel jokes. We can 0:03:41.480 --> 0:03:46.480 make anyway, uh not to stall anymore, Ladies and gentlemen, 0:03:46.560 --> 0:03:54.640 we have comedian, director, producer, actor, writer, leading man cannabis connoisseur, 0:03:55.960 --> 0:04:00.480 also uh advocate for sleeping in the bed room under 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:01.520 sixty seven degrees. 0:04:01.960 --> 0:04:05.360 It's true. We will get. 0:04:09.800 --> 0:04:13.480 I guess uh Philadelphia Music culture event, fan police, the 0:04:13.560 --> 0:04:17.080 man in the roots, Ladies and gentlemen, and hip hop 0:04:17.120 --> 0:04:20.280 head and Canadian ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to the show. 0:04:20.320 --> 0:04:21.200 Seth Rogan. 0:04:25.320 --> 0:04:28.919 Wait, I gotta all right, we this this is a 0:04:28.960 --> 0:04:33.240 show of rabbit holing. Let's just start first, all right, 0:04:33.360 --> 0:04:34.680 I'm a little I'm miffed. 0:04:34.839 --> 0:04:38.040 All right, so I have to explain that a lot 0:04:38.040 --> 0:04:38.560 of backstory. 0:04:38.680 --> 0:04:42.440 I was very fortunate. I was very fortunate to attend 0:04:42.920 --> 0:04:49.039 uh sets uh Hilarity for charity event. Shout out to 0:04:49.160 --> 0:04:52.400 uh Menisian and Mary Ellis Museum. 0:04:53.839 --> 0:04:54.520 Yeah. 0:04:54.600 --> 0:04:58.480 Yeah, So I went there and the discussion of how 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.840 much sleep does a person need to. 0:05:00.680 --> 0:05:05.360 Have that healthy brain? Yeah, brain health, Yes, yes, No. 0:05:05.360 --> 0:05:06.080 I learned a lot. 0:05:06.200 --> 0:05:06.800 I learned that. 0:05:07.600 --> 0:05:09.719 As of lately, I'll say, in the last two months, 0:05:09.800 --> 0:05:14.760 I've been back into the eight hour range of sleeping. 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:18.640 That's good because, right because people were always like, when 0:05:18.680 --> 0:05:20.440 do you sleep? When do you slee You didn't used 0:05:20.480 --> 0:05:23.159 to sleep, right, I was three. I was three to 0:05:23.240 --> 0:05:25.840 five hour guy, and I was told that you don't 0:05:25.839 --> 0:05:29.719 even reach r EM state until six hours and forty 0:05:29.720 --> 0:05:33.120 seven minutes and for your body to heal. And you know, 0:05:33.240 --> 0:05:35.680 I'm adjusting my lifestyle right now. I'm trying to get 0:05:35.680 --> 0:05:39.120 back to a healthier place. I got to do somewhere 0:05:39.160 --> 0:05:43.480 between eight to ten hours for the magic to begin. So, 0:05:43.880 --> 0:05:49.159 but then you guys left me with this this gem 0:05:49.440 --> 0:05:51.440 of the room has to be cold. 0:05:51.600 --> 0:05:53.880 Yeah, you sleep best if the room is freezing. I've 0:05:53.880 --> 0:05:56.400 heard that before, like sixty in the sixties. 0:05:56.400 --> 0:05:59.280 Well, yeah, my girlfriend took that the heart and now 0:06:00.080 --> 0:06:03.039 reading night, Yeah, it's cold as hell. It's been sixty 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:04.360 five degrees in the bedroom. 0:06:04.400 --> 0:06:05.279 Are you sleeping better? 0:06:05.520 --> 0:06:13.440 No, No, I'm sleeping well, but it's not like I 0:06:13.560 --> 0:06:15.000 needed to be Africa hot. 0:06:15.120 --> 0:06:17.520 My wife, Well, that's why my wife likes it much 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:20.040 colder than me, and that's why they have heating pad. 0:06:20.080 --> 0:06:22.080 That's what we're talking about. There's there's pads from Actress 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:23.920 where you can set the temperature so you could keep 0:06:23.960 --> 0:06:26.200 your side hot and her side cold, and it's something 0:06:26.240 --> 0:06:36.200 that's throughout l Yeah. Perfect, I'm sorry, it's exactly right, 0:06:36.360 --> 0:06:38.640 but uh no, it's fun. And I think I think 0:06:38.640 --> 0:06:41.240 as bed get older, they get colder. It is we 0:06:41.279 --> 0:06:44.599 would get older, they get hotter. Yeah. Yeah, me and 0:06:44.640 --> 0:06:46.560 my wife have kind of We were just talking about 0:06:46.560 --> 0:06:49.279 how we like crossed over. Like when we first started dating, 0:06:49.800 --> 0:06:51.919 I was always hot and she was always cold, and 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.000 now I'm always cold and she's always hot. And we 0:06:54.080 --> 0:06:55.880 probably had like three years where we were both the 0:06:55.920 --> 0:06:58.200 same temperature and we didn't realize how good that time 0:06:58.360 --> 0:06:59.400 was until it was gone. 0:06:59.760 --> 0:07:03.800 No, it could be really probably problematic because I'll get up, 0:07:04.600 --> 0:07:11.520 I'll reach my limit at exactly like four to seventeen am. 0:07:09.880 --> 0:07:14.720 And you're freezing. Are you sure I'll sneak up with nothing? 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:18.840 Don't you remember? Do it all right? You remember on. 0:07:18.920 --> 0:07:23.640 Sesame Street the green guy in the in the in 0:07:23.720 --> 0:07:26.560 the trench coat that used to always sell Ernie like 0:07:27.280 --> 0:07:28.440 a letter Hey. 0:07:28.240 --> 0:07:35.040 But yeah, yeah exactly, letter dealer, right, so like his 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:40.800 little creep music, creeping tiptoe music. Yes, exactly. 0:07:41.000 --> 0:07:46.080 So I'm in my own house that I paid for creeping, 0:07:46.640 --> 0:07:50.000 putting that ship back to like something normal like sixty eight. 0:07:51.440 --> 0:07:54.280 I don't go below sixty eight ars. That's where we've landed. 0:07:54.320 --> 0:07:57.560 My wife Lauren would go to this like low sixties. 0:07:57.160 --> 0:08:00.200 Over thirty five. You got to go to sixty six, brom. 0:08:00.760 --> 0:08:03.800 You got put on another blanket and then make it 0:08:03.840 --> 0:08:06.160 hot underneath it. You know what I'm saying. That's the gold. 0:08:06.840 --> 0:08:07.600 Think about it. 0:08:07.840 --> 0:08:10.280 What's the what's the logic keeping it colder? What's the 0:08:10.320 --> 0:08:11.040 physics of well? 0:08:11.320 --> 0:08:15.080 And then the thing is that your your brain is 0:08:15.120 --> 0:08:18.560 divided into two parts. There's the conscious brain, and like 0:08:18.600 --> 0:08:21.760 the concert is like hey, uh, I'm gonna go to work. 0:08:22.480 --> 0:08:24.760 I'm gonna go to work later today, I'm gonna take 0:08:24.800 --> 0:08:28.160 the subway home, I'm gonna lose weight, I'm going to 0:08:28.240 --> 0:08:30.520 ask that girl out. And then it's a subconscious which 0:08:30.600 --> 0:08:33.360 does stuff like I'm gonna make sure your heart's beating 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:36.040 I'm gonna make sure you're waist. So it's the it's 0:08:36.040 --> 0:08:37.080 the part of your brain. 0:08:38.080 --> 0:08:43.360 WHOA, yeah, what you said. And so it's actually a 0:08:43.360 --> 0:08:47.559 fish song of course. And so. 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:53.800 Your body has to be totally knocked out. So you 0:08:53.840 --> 0:08:56.080 get to that R. E. M state at exactly six 0:08:56.160 --> 0:08:59.439 hours and forty five minutes. When you're that sleep, then 0:08:59.480 --> 0:09:01.400 you're right out of brains, like waking up like. 0:09:01.520 --> 0:09:03.839 All right, he's asleep, let's get to work. 0:09:04.200 --> 0:09:07.280 And so then that's where the fat burns. That's where 0:09:07.600 --> 0:09:10.200 like all the things that you want to help have 0:09:10.840 --> 0:09:14.280 happened for your life to be good. Your your brain's 0:09:14.280 --> 0:09:16.440 like all right, they're knocked out. Now now we can 0:09:16.480 --> 0:09:18.600 get to work. But the thing is that most of 0:09:18.679 --> 0:09:23.840 us don't get that much sleep, so we're doing ourselves 0:09:23.840 --> 0:09:27.080 a disservice by only sleeping six to seven hours. 0:09:27.160 --> 0:09:28.240 It's terrible for you. 0:09:28.520 --> 0:09:31.400 But yeah, you didn't answer my question. Why does it 0:09:31.480 --> 0:09:32.240 have to be cold? 0:09:32.640 --> 0:09:35.319 Probably because people probably because it was cold at night. 0:09:35.559 --> 0:09:37.800 You're you mean like before we had houses. 0:09:37.880 --> 0:09:40.400 Yeah, Like it's probably like we're conditioned to sleep in 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:44.719 colder environments. 0:09:42.000 --> 0:09:48.240 So I think so at this. 0:09:48.280 --> 0:09:51.160 Event, Okay, can we just agree that this entire hours. 0:09:56.200 --> 0:09:57.920 I'm kind of on you're side of the fence. Why 0:09:57.920 --> 0:10:00.120 does it have to be so damn cold? No, I 0:10:00.120 --> 0:10:01.160 mean I'm just asking. 0:10:01.040 --> 0:10:02.000 No, no, no, I'm asking. 0:10:02.160 --> 0:10:05.960 I'm what's the scientific part of I don't think this helps. 0:10:06.360 --> 0:10:07.640 I don't know. That's why I want to know. 0:10:07.800 --> 0:10:11.080 Google where we changed the subject. 0:10:11.160 --> 0:10:12.960 I'm just going to suggest everybody hop on Google. 0:10:13.080 --> 0:10:20.600 Yeah, Google, and then anyway, let's talk about movies. But 0:10:20.679 --> 0:10:26.760 you do sleep better what it's called, and that's that's fact. So, uh, give, 0:10:27.040 --> 0:10:29.760 we don't need wise? Are we giving wise? We're just 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:37.079 giving answers here. It's said that completely unsubstantiated information scientists. 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.120 Scientists have going on a record and said. 0:10:39.920 --> 0:10:42.440 So we had a doctor he substantiated it. 0:10:42.640 --> 0:10:48.360 Yeah, I kind of believe me and my curiosity exactly. 0:10:50.440 --> 0:10:54.680 So you were born in Vancouver, Vancouver, British Columbia. Huh, 0:10:55.320 --> 0:10:57.960 home of the the hip hop national anthem. 0:10:58.040 --> 0:10:59.920 Wait, who else was Alfia Chang? 0:11:01.679 --> 0:11:03.959 Because he's yeah episode. 0:11:05.080 --> 0:11:07.640 Yeah, I think I've bet her over the years. 0:11:07.640 --> 0:11:14.520 Actually she'll be on the future episodes. Great anyway, Yeah, 0:11:14.520 --> 0:11:14.719 I know. 0:11:14.800 --> 0:11:17.560 The Rascals are a hip hop group from Vancouver that 0:11:17.640 --> 0:11:20.640 were the The Rascals they were called like, uh and 0:11:20.880 --> 0:11:26.720 uh Northern Touch, Yeah, rascals, checkmate, Cardinal Allen thrust Claire, 0:11:26.840 --> 0:11:29.280 how do you know this? How do you know that 0:11:29.440 --> 0:11:31.920 very no American knows that song? I do my research 0:11:32.240 --> 0:11:37.000 is well, maybe you can help you to steal the 0:11:37.000 --> 0:11:40.400 beat of that song for a song. Yeah, there is 0:11:40.440 --> 0:11:42.720 a d m X song with the exact same beat 0:11:42.800 --> 0:11:45.560 as Northern Touch, and I think if you're Canadian, it's 0:11:45.679 --> 0:11:50.440 very jarring. But you're like, oh, this is a good beat. 0:11:50.600 --> 0:11:55.319 It I can't yeah, express bt express sample that E 0:11:55.440 --> 0:11:58.560 P M D used head banger ev Well, no, no, 0:11:58.559 --> 0:12:01.960 no for uh uh you know what I'm saying. 0:12:02.280 --> 0:12:05.400 Yeah, Northern Touch first, get the bows that no EBMD 0:12:05.600 --> 0:12:08.200 was first, and then Northern Touch, yes maybe. 0:12:07.880 --> 0:12:13.320 And then DMX came and just took it. Did Did 0:12:13.320 --> 0:12:17.719 you know that your your hometown is also uh what 0:12:18.240 --> 0:12:21.080 I consider that the national anthem of hip hop? Did 0:12:21.080 --> 0:12:23.840 you know that Apache was created in Vancouver? 0:12:24.080 --> 0:12:25.200 Apache? Yes? 0:12:25.320 --> 0:12:28.720 Apache was recorded and created in Vancouver. 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:30.600 Really? Yes, I did not know that. 0:12:30.840 --> 0:12:34.040 Yes, that's one of my favorite factoids about that is 0:12:34.040 --> 0:12:37.600 a very good fact with Vancouver and the other and Wars. 0:12:37.400 --> 0:12:40.280 From Vancouver is the other I love. Yeah, Your interviews 0:12:40.320 --> 0:12:43.319 with him are great. Have you interviewed been I've been 0:12:43.360 --> 0:12:44.240 interviewed by him once. 0:12:44.360 --> 0:12:48.840 Have you ever seen a non savory nord war interview 0:12:48.920 --> 0:12:50.600 like a lot of the earlier ones where they don't 0:12:50.600 --> 0:12:52.240 you know if he's trolling them or not. 0:12:52.360 --> 0:12:54.160 Oh? Yes, so, I mean I grew up watching him, 0:12:54.200 --> 0:12:56.240 So I've seen like so many. 0:12:56.440 --> 0:12:57.679 How long has he been doing this? 0:12:58.000 --> 0:13:06.319 Like thirty years? He's like fifty something. Yes, he's younger 0:13:06.320 --> 0:13:06.560 than me. 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:07.079 No. 0:13:07.320 --> 0:13:11.960 There's actually an amazing yardbar interview with Nirvana, like backstage 0:13:11.960 --> 0:13:14.079 at the P and E Forum, which is the place 0:13:14.080 --> 0:13:16.959 in Vancouver from like nineteen ninety, like three or something 0:13:17.040 --> 0:13:19.120 like Courtney Love is there and it's like a very 0:13:19.160 --> 0:13:22.800 long interview that's filmed and throughout it's like forty minutes 0:13:22.880 --> 0:13:24.720 or something like. Throughout the course of it, you see 0:13:24.800 --> 0:13:27.920 Kurt Kobad like slowly realize he's a genius, and like 0:13:27.960 --> 0:13:30.120 at first it's this thing where it's just like, why 0:13:30.160 --> 0:13:32.280 is this fucking guy here bothering me? And then he's 0:13:32.280 --> 0:13:36.120 slowly like clues in the house is yeah, he totally 0:13:36.160 --> 0:13:38.600 does know. But I've seen because now people know who 0:13:38.679 --> 0:13:42.440 he is, Like, but for years I would watch interviews 0:13:42.480 --> 0:13:45.040 where famous musicians would just get interviewed by him and 0:13:45.080 --> 0:13:48.240 be like, who the fuck is this guy? And even 0:13:48.320 --> 0:13:51.440 still some people don't. I feel like, don't get it. 0:13:51.480 --> 0:13:55.000 I feel like people all right, So that jay Z interviews, 0:13:55.040 --> 0:13:58.240 the jay Z didn't seem to appreciate. No, I warned 0:13:58.320 --> 0:14:00.400 him about it. Yeah, I take him do it. 0:14:00.480 --> 0:14:04.160 And then Farrell doubled down. Yeah, so he did it. 0:14:04.880 --> 0:14:06.920 Because if we say it's a thing, yeah, then jay 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:07.400 Z's just. 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:07.679 One of them. 0:14:07.679 --> 0:14:09.400 Folmo, I don't want to miss out. 0:14:09.520 --> 0:14:16.520 He's got no question you know anyway. 0:14:17.320 --> 0:14:22.720 And so but I'll say that the first time he 0:14:22.800 --> 0:14:24.560 interviewed me, I was paranoid because. 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.320 He just knew ways. Oh it's weird. Too much information 0:14:27.720 --> 0:14:31.000 he knew about me. That was he brought out your books. Yeah, 0:14:31.040 --> 0:14:34.240 he had my high school yearbooks. Literally, he like knew people, 0:14:34.880 --> 0:14:38.000 He knew names that I hadn't heard in like, yeah, 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.359 twenty five years. 0:14:39.160 --> 0:14:41.040 Got a bag from the shop at your mommy store. 0:14:41.240 --> 0:14:45.120 Yes literally that. Yeah, it was totally crazy. 0:14:45.160 --> 0:14:46.000 It would freak me out. 0:14:46.120 --> 0:14:49.440 It was super fucking freaky. But his knowledge is bizarre. 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:51.880 He's always trying to get to Kanye. He's like, that's 0:14:51.920 --> 0:14:54.280 his holy Grail. He like emails me and tells me 0:14:54.480 --> 0:14:58.200 a YouTube oh alone, not at all. Yeah, I can 0:14:58.240 --> 0:14:59.280 see that going very bad. 0:15:01.360 --> 0:15:04.800 He somehow thinks that I have the magic touch to 0:15:04.920 --> 0:15:06.239 get him to the Obamas. 0:15:06.600 --> 0:15:13.800 Wowane, Yeah, that's a big step in a much better direction. 0:15:14.880 --> 0:15:18.160 I read somewhere somebody said online that, uh that when 0:15:18.160 --> 0:15:20.080 you get to the parlegates of Heaven, it's ard war 0:15:20.240 --> 0:15:26.040 that he's the one that's reviewing your entire life there. 0:15:27.080 --> 0:15:30.920 So, speaking of your hometown, are you is every time 0:15:30.960 --> 0:15:37.280 I ask anybody from Vancouver, are you knowledgeable the La 0:15:37.320 --> 0:15:41.720 Cassa gelato or is that just for tour suckers like me? 0:15:42.160 --> 0:15:46.400 It's the place that has. 0:15:44.280 --> 0:15:48.560 Like hundreds of flavors of gelato. Yeah, it's near. It's 0:15:48.600 --> 0:15:50.960 on like the like north end of kind of the 0:15:50.960 --> 0:15:51.880 east side of Vancouver. 0:15:52.000 --> 0:15:54.320 It's my favorite place ever, I might. 0:15:54.400 --> 0:15:56.960 It's not somewhere I grew up going, but it's somewhere 0:15:57.000 --> 0:16:00.720 that I've heard of Its suckers might be kind of 0:16:00.720 --> 0:16:05.280 a vinegar. Yeah. It was one of the first places 0:16:05.280 --> 0:16:09.080 to start doing like weird flavors or ship like that. Yeah. 0:16:08.520 --> 0:16:12.480 Yeah, basically cheese ice cream man like a tobacco one 0:16:12.560 --> 0:16:13.400 or something like that. 0:16:13.600 --> 0:16:15.800 Yeah for a while. Yeah, well, I mean something. 0:16:15.640 --> 0:16:17.560 That some of the weird ones I liked, Like they 0:16:17.560 --> 0:16:18.880 have black pepper vanilla. 0:16:19.160 --> 0:16:23.000 That's weird. How is cheddar cheese? Well that's the thing. 0:16:23.080 --> 0:16:26.640 You you basically you sample all the weird ones and 0:16:26.960 --> 0:16:27.840 you get the rocky road. 0:16:27.880 --> 0:16:33.240 That's you know, that's a purely like North American thing 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:37.200 is sampling ice cream? Like, uh, what I was considered rude? Well, 0:16:37.240 --> 0:16:41.400 I was in Italy and uh not to brag that 0:16:41.720 --> 0:16:44.280 Italy in a gelato shop and there was like a 0:16:44.360 --> 0:16:47.040 rush of Americans left and me and by wife for 0:16:47.120 --> 0:16:49.000 the holy people of the restaurant, and the woman behind 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.160 the counter like very quietly looked at us and goes, 0:16:51.160 --> 0:16:53.640 can I ask you a question? We're like, yeah, how 0:16:53.640 --> 0:17:01.120 come American always ask the taste? She's like, what is this? Like? 0:17:01.800 --> 0:17:05.040 Nowhere else to t I was like, you're right when 0:17:05.080 --> 0:17:07.000 you put it like that, it is pretty fucking weird, 0:17:07.280 --> 0:17:08.840 Like nowhere else you'd be like can I try that 0:17:08.920 --> 0:17:14.080 sand which piece? That's what I said. I said. I 0:17:14.119 --> 0:17:16.520 think it all roots back to this one place basket Robins, 0:17:16.560 --> 0:17:18.560 where they encourage people to do it and that ruined 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.720 really ice cream all over the the Yeah, because I 0:17:22.760 --> 0:17:23.200 know that the. 0:17:23.160 --> 0:17:28.720 Sun you are, I'm like, yeah, they combined with dun donuts. 0:17:28.720 --> 0:17:32.000 No, no, no, yeah there. That's the thing though, are they. 0:17:32.400 --> 0:17:38.280 I know that the Sun inherited the empire and because 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.680 you know, like generations are the opposites of what their 0:17:40.920 --> 0:17:45.320 parents were, the Sun wasn't like you know, he didn't 0:17:45.640 --> 0:17:47.280 he was concerned about the cows. 0:17:47.040 --> 0:17:48.640 They were using and. 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:54.439 Range and so instead he took the family money and 0:17:54.520 --> 0:17:57.840 did this expose on how like ice cream companies are 0:17:58.880 --> 0:18:01.120 ruining cows environment. 0:18:01.920 --> 0:18:03.240 It's like ice cream succession. 0:18:03.520 --> 0:18:10.720 So they that's crazy basket around. I was just in 0:18:10.800 --> 0:18:13.679 the ice cream industry, which explains why they had to 0:18:13.720 --> 0:18:14.720 partner with. 0:18:17.320 --> 0:18:17.639 Basket. 0:18:19.080 --> 0:18:22.480 That Margarita flavor is still there is good Margerite ice cream. 0:18:22.560 --> 0:18:24.119 Have a Margarita flavor. They've had it forever. 0:18:24.640 --> 0:18:27.240 Wow. Good to condition children at a young age to 0:18:27.560 --> 0:18:32.159 develop a taste from Margarita's. So twenty minutes. 0:18:33.119 --> 0:18:39.320 So twenty minutes into this interview, let's start. So you 0:18:39.440 --> 0:18:44.560 being born in the early eighties in Vancouver, what was 0:18:44.600 --> 0:18:48.320 the what was your environment like in your household? 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:54.040 My household, I lived on the East side of Vancouver, 0:18:54.200 --> 0:18:59.119 which in like a one hundred percent like East Indian neighborhood. 0:19:00.160 --> 0:19:02.879 So it was, uh, it was great. It was like 0:19:03.720 --> 0:19:05.520 I would walk around a lot. I was just arguing 0:19:05.520 --> 0:19:07.600 with my parents. Their memory was that I never walked 0:19:07.640 --> 0:19:11.159 around alone, and I definitively did all the time. It 0:19:11.200 --> 0:19:14.680 would take the bus all around the city. But uh, yeah, 0:19:14.680 --> 0:19:16.480 but I went to school on the West Side, I 0:19:16.600 --> 0:19:19.040 grew up. I started doing stand up when I was young, 0:19:19.119 --> 0:19:22.560 like twelve or thirteen, and I would started writing around 0:19:22.560 --> 0:19:26.040 then too, and I smoked weed a lot, and not 0:19:26.160 --> 0:19:28.320 much has changed my life since I was twelve. I ag. 0:19:30.680 --> 0:19:33.520 So the myth, the myth of super Bad and you 0:19:34.080 --> 0:19:36.680 crafting this at such a young age is. 0:19:38.320 --> 0:19:41.320 Yes, for sure. Yeah. Me and my partner Evan, who 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:44.920 I still work with, met in bar Mitzvah class when 0:19:44.960 --> 0:19:48.440 we were twelve and then started writing together not long 0:19:48.480 --> 0:19:51.359 after that, and we had yeah, we probably finished the 0:19:51.440 --> 0:19:53.280 draft to Super Bad when we were like fourteen or 0:19:53.320 --> 0:19:56.840 fifteen for a complete yeah by then, but we started 0:19:56.840 --> 0:19:58.959 when we were like thirteen, And there is some and 0:19:59.000 --> 0:20:01.080 it's like what the things were. It's almost sad that 0:20:01.200 --> 0:20:03.719 like I'm not that much smarter or fuddier than I 0:20:03.800 --> 0:20:06.000 was when I was thirteen years old, because there are 0:20:06.040 --> 0:20:08.360 some jokes in the movie that like we wrote when 0:20:08.359 --> 0:20:10.879 we were thirteen that are still in the movie, that 0:20:10.920 --> 0:20:13.480 are in the movie that like that held up and 0:20:13.520 --> 0:20:15.800 that are still Yeah, you'd like to think you got 0:20:15.800 --> 0:20:16.880 better in that amount of time. 0:20:17.119 --> 0:20:19.840 At fourteen, you look like a professional. 0:20:19.880 --> 0:20:21.960 I'm trying to say. I remember I made I asked 0:20:21.960 --> 0:20:24.000 my mom to buy me Final Draft, which was the 0:20:24.080 --> 0:20:26.879 script writing software, and she did. My parents were like 0:20:26.920 --> 0:20:29.000 super supportive because I also didn't stand up, so they 0:20:29.040 --> 0:20:31.680 saw that, like I would work hard. You know what 0:20:31.720 --> 0:20:34.119 I mean? This is ninety six, Yeah, this is probably 0:20:34.200 --> 0:20:37.240 ninety five or ninety six or something like that. Yeah, 0:20:37.320 --> 0:20:39.080 ninety five, I would say, ninety six. 0:20:39.160 --> 0:20:41.920 Yeah, Like all right, I'm curious, and this is lead 0:20:42.040 --> 0:20:46.000 just back to the conscious subconscious. Yeah, when you're subconscious, 0:20:46.000 --> 0:20:51.200 it's convinced them of something. Yeah, then your body does it, 0:20:51.240 --> 0:20:56.200 which which explains why you know, Kanye uses outward affirmations 0:20:56.520 --> 0:21:00.000 I am the greatest, yes, and then everything happens for him, 0:21:00.640 --> 0:21:03.159 the same way with Trump, the same way with Diddy, 0:21:03.400 --> 0:21:04.400 the same with Jay. 0:21:04.480 --> 0:21:08.399 Remember Day remix it and called it a secret secret. 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:15.080 I have six million dollars in my bank account right now, 0:21:15.640 --> 0:21:16.080 right now. 0:21:16.320 --> 0:21:24.240 So I'm curious what what inside you gave you the 0:21:24.240 --> 0:21:26.520 the boss to even be like, yo, let's write a 0:21:26.560 --> 0:21:29.359 movie now, Like it didn't even start with like let's 0:21:29.800 --> 0:21:31.160 start with community theater. 0:21:32.000 --> 0:21:33.000 Hey, how do you do this? 0:21:33.200 --> 0:21:34.400 Or did you see a movie one day? 0:21:34.480 --> 0:21:37.360 Is like I could do better. Literally, that's what happened. 0:21:37.480 --> 0:21:39.360 Like what movie did you see that sets you off? 0:21:39.440 --> 0:21:43.080 I can't remember and we are all we love picture 0:21:43.359 --> 0:21:45.840 that was like no, like that was something. I had 0:21:45.840 --> 0:21:48.880 a pulp fiction poster on my bedroom door, like. 0:21:48.880 --> 0:21:51.200 Throughout if you were a teenager in the nineties, you. 0:21:51.119 --> 0:21:53.680 Had Yeah, I mean that came out in ninety four, 0:21:53.760 --> 0:21:55.600 maybe I was twelve, so we saw it around then, 0:21:55.720 --> 0:21:59.919 and it was it was also the era of like independent. 0:22:00.119 --> 0:22:02.159 It was like the resurgence of this independent film like 0:22:02.600 --> 0:22:06.679 Clark Car and Rushmore and Wes Anderson had Bottle Rocket, 0:22:06.840 --> 0:22:09.360 so there was oh yeah, we were obsessed with them. 0:22:09.480 --> 0:22:11.960 And it's also one of those things that was my 0:22:12.240 --> 0:22:16.000 parents loved movies and they were just huge movie fans, 0:22:16.000 --> 0:22:17.720 so they would like watch a lot of movies and 0:22:17.720 --> 0:22:23.359 collect movies. Vancouver. They made some stuff there, so it's 0:22:23.400 --> 0:22:26.919 not like Hollywood, but like you would see movie sets 0:22:26.960 --> 0:22:29.399 around and so there was like it wasn't this like 0:22:29.520 --> 0:22:33.920 completely unobtainable thing. And then in high school, our high 0:22:33.920 --> 0:22:36.480 school was right across the street from to video store, 0:22:36.640 --> 0:22:39.960 like uh giant video stores, and we would rent movies, 0:22:40.040 --> 0:22:42.119 like we watched. All we would do is like smoke. 0:22:42.119 --> 0:22:46.040 We'd watch movies basically, and and when you watch enough movies, 0:22:46.080 --> 0:22:48.280 you start to think, maybe we could do this, and 0:22:48.320 --> 0:22:51.919 if we write something that's like cheap, then maybe that 0:22:52.040 --> 0:22:54.520 was always the thought was, like it was said in 0:22:54.600 --> 0:22:56.679 high school super bad, and we were like, where it 0:22:56.680 --> 0:22:59.040 comes to worst, like this becomes something we like we 0:22:59.080 --> 0:23:00.639 made movies with like our like you know, we had 0:23:00.640 --> 0:23:02.800 a video camera. We were like, we could technically make 0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:05.119 this ourselves if we wanted to. 0:23:05.600 --> 0:23:11.480 You know, what was your north star in terms of Okay, 0:23:11.680 --> 0:23:14.879 So now now it's just hitting me that because I 0:23:15.119 --> 0:23:18.840 family that worked at an independent movie theater back in 0:23:19.240 --> 0:23:23.080 ninety one ninety two, so I always have free tickets. 0:23:23.560 --> 0:23:25.879 But you know, we're seeing al Marachi, We're seeing like 0:23:25.920 --> 0:23:29.640 all these indie films, which I mean at the time 0:23:29.680 --> 0:23:31.600 I didn't realize it, but it was grooming me to 0:23:33.240 --> 0:23:36.199 gear towards art house stuff as opposed to mainstream stuff. 0:23:36.560 --> 0:23:40.359 But for you, what were your Were you a film 0:23:40.440 --> 0:23:41.879 snob or were you just like you know, I got 0:23:41.920 --> 0:23:43.160 Poor GI's and Hot Dog. 0:23:43.160 --> 0:23:46.520 Yeah, no, we were hot the Ski movie, Yeah, of course. 0:23:46.600 --> 0:23:50.200 I liked Hamburger the motion picture. 0:23:50.280 --> 0:23:56.240 Yeah, Hamburger, Hamburger Bucker. Was there a Hamburger movie? 0:23:56.320 --> 0:23:58.720 Yes, I gotta see it. 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:00.480 It was amazing TV. 0:24:00.640 --> 0:24:05.480 There's a specific like C movie yeh VHS section. 0:24:05.320 --> 0:24:07.320 Anything that was on HBO late night and liked. 0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:09.520 In the mid eighties, we would just rent movies based 0:24:09.560 --> 0:24:12.000 on what the cover of the box looking garbage. 0:24:12.320 --> 0:24:13.640 Anybody can find the garbage. 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.440 It's funny. Busy Domight movie just came out. I would 0:24:16.440 --> 0:24:18.920 watch it. But we were we were obsessed with Dollmkee 0:24:18.960 --> 0:24:20.560 because like it was one of those reason that like 0:24:20.800 --> 0:24:23.800 purely based on the colt We're like, what is this? 0:24:23.920 --> 0:24:26.160 We did? We did the same We did the same thing. 0:24:26.240 --> 0:24:27.680 Like every Friday night we would all meet up with 0:24:27.680 --> 0:24:29.639 this Mexican restaurant in town and then we would all 0:24:29.880 --> 0:24:32.320 like caravan over to the video store, argue for about 0:24:32.320 --> 0:24:33.919 half an hour about what video we're going to pick out? 0:24:34.160 --> 0:24:36.120 Oh, we would argue for hours. We spend more time 0:24:36.119 --> 0:24:38.159 in the video store than we would watching the movies 0:24:38.200 --> 0:24:40.120 we rented at the video like that was the activity 0:24:40.280 --> 0:24:43.080 was going to the video store. Inside we argue over 0:24:43.280 --> 0:24:43.720 what we did. 0:24:43.880 --> 0:24:45.800 We called it tasteless movie night. We would try to 0:24:45.800 --> 0:24:47.639 find the most tasteless movie we could find in the 0:24:47.680 --> 0:24:49.399 video suffect. Yeah, and we would just go to my 0:24:49.440 --> 0:24:51.320 friend Darren's basement and watch it. And just like it 0:24:51.359 --> 0:24:54.840 was commentary, it was perfect commentary involved. I'm sure if 0:24:54.880 --> 0:24:56.960 there had been well his mom was a teacher, sect. 0:24:56.800 --> 0:25:01.359 Would never So where were you go? Uh? Well, I 0:25:01.359 --> 0:25:03.439 think it's like one thing I look at is like 0:25:03.480 --> 0:25:06.080 the movies. It's obviously something I've thought about, you know, 0:25:06.240 --> 0:25:09.240 is like the movies my parents owned, Like they owned 0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.679 like forty movies on like vhs that they would like, 0:25:12.000 --> 0:25:14.040 there was like three movies to a VHS. They would 0:25:14.080 --> 0:25:17.359 tape them off TV yes when they came on, and like, 0:25:17.440 --> 0:25:20.080 would you ever watch them? I did all the time. 0:25:20.160 --> 0:25:24.280 And those movies are like cementing in my brain. I 0:25:24.320 --> 0:25:27.720 know every word to every one. And I also bet 0:25:27.720 --> 0:25:29.640 that if I like made a list of all those 0:25:29.680 --> 0:25:34.000 movies they like directly correlate to the movies that I've 0:25:34.040 --> 0:25:38.359 made since then basically like one, well, it's like Ghostbusters, 0:25:38.440 --> 0:25:41.000 they and movies like that. My dad loved Bill Murray. 0:25:42.040 --> 0:25:45.199 They also loved like Woody Allen and like Independent like 0:25:45.280 --> 0:25:47.159 they like they had like Hannah and Her Sisters and 0:25:47.160 --> 0:25:49.040 like any halland movies like that, and I would watch 0:25:49.080 --> 0:25:52.080 those movies a lot. And then they had like Albert 0:25:52.080 --> 0:25:54.600 Brooks movies, and my dad loved Billy Crystal and so 0:25:54.760 --> 0:25:56.159 like it was a lot of that stuff. And my 0:25:56.280 --> 0:25:58.720 mom though, loved action movies, and so we had like 0:25:58.760 --> 0:26:02.919 die Hard and Total reco and like Under Sage I 0:26:03.000 --> 0:26:05.360 remember we had right when it came out, and Lef 0:26:05.400 --> 0:26:06.920 a Weapon was like, it's like one of my mom's 0:26:06.960 --> 0:26:11.159 favorite movies. And so I would watch these like emotionally 0:26:11.359 --> 0:26:15.640 driven kind of comedy drama movies and like the most violent, 0:26:15.760 --> 0:26:19.960 insane action movies. And that's kind of a lot of 0:26:19.960 --> 0:26:26.879 the stuff we make now, Yeah, I see, yeah, And 0:26:26.960 --> 0:26:30.560 so all those movies like we loved, and then when yeah, 0:26:30.600 --> 0:26:32.159 and then when Paul fiction of those movies started to 0:26:32.200 --> 0:26:35.159 come out, we became cessin Reservoir Dogs we loved and like, 0:26:36.600 --> 0:26:38.720 and then we got really in a Sam Raimi and 0:26:38.760 --> 0:26:42.400 Peter Jackson's early movies like Army of Darkness we watched 0:26:42.600 --> 0:26:45.359 over and over and over again, and Dead Alive we watched. 0:26:45.400 --> 0:26:48.120 We watched a lot and like, uh yeah, and then 0:26:48.160 --> 0:26:50.400 to see those guys go on that was another thing. 0:26:50.560 --> 0:26:53.160 Is like you'd see like, oh, like Sam Raimi's direct 0:26:53.200 --> 0:26:55.560 and Spider Man and like these guys who like we 0:26:55.560 --> 0:26:59.320 were already fans of for making like the weirdest shit ever, 0:27:00.119 --> 0:27:03.240 we're then crossing over and becoming really successful and I 0:27:03.240 --> 0:27:05.640 think making big things. And that was also I think 0:27:05.680 --> 0:27:08.920 something we always liked and that was interesting to us. 0:27:09.040 --> 0:27:12.000 But no, I mean we just like devoured. 0:27:11.680 --> 0:27:15.280 The Vancouver have much of a social or nightlife because 0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:19.240 I'm a I'm almost thinking of I'm thinking that Vancouver 0:27:19.520 --> 0:27:23.480 is almost like all right, what Minneapolis was to print, yeah, 0:27:23.520 --> 0:27:27.000 and how there was a scene there, but because there's 0:27:27.080 --> 0:27:29.879 not much to do. Yes, he had a lot of 0:27:29.920 --> 0:27:32.760 time to hone his craft, yes, to do music a lot, yes, 0:27:33.040 --> 0:27:35.520 And the weather determines staying in. 0:27:35.600 --> 0:27:38.320 Vancouver is a city where people sit, like go to 0:27:38.400 --> 0:27:42.640 someone's house and smoke weed. That's like the activity your 0:27:42.680 --> 0:27:46.600 experience that is like what people do there or and 0:27:46.640 --> 0:27:49.119 when it's nice out, you go to a not a 0:27:49.240 --> 0:27:52.080 nature place and smoke weed. It's like a very like 0:27:52.400 --> 0:27:55.560 weed was like super prevalent and like it's a huge 0:27:56.119 --> 0:27:58.119 It's like one of the most progressive cities in the 0:27:58.160 --> 0:28:00.560 world when it comes to weed, even in your in 0:28:00.600 --> 0:28:04.160 the night. So you've never been arrested for the right. 0:28:04.200 --> 0:28:06.080 When I moved to l A, I got arrested because 0:28:06.119 --> 0:28:10.119 I didn't understand how much more strict it was, uh 0:28:10.280 --> 0:28:12.480 than it was in Vancouver. Like all throughout high school, 0:28:12.520 --> 0:28:15.399 if we got caught with weed, the cops wouldn't would 0:28:15.480 --> 0:28:17.760 just take it. They wouldn't even always take it. They 0:28:17.760 --> 0:28:21.600 would just be like go away, like like it was 0:28:21.920 --> 0:28:26.960 such jewelow on priority, like on the priorities, because Vancouver 0:28:27.000 --> 0:28:30.240 had like a terrible, terrible heroin problem and it was 0:28:30.280 --> 0:28:33.399 like had a really rough drug problem. And so weed 0:28:33.640 --> 0:28:38.200 very early on became deprioritized and decriminalized. And from when 0:28:38.200 --> 0:28:39.680 I was a kid, there was a coffee shop you 0:28:39.680 --> 0:28:43.040 could go smoke weed in, and there was like indoor 0:28:43.080 --> 0:28:44.680 like places you go inside and smoke weed. 0:28:45.160 --> 0:28:48.520 Seth you never know we would see I have. 0:28:48.640 --> 0:28:50.360 But yeah, when I first moved to la we'd buy 0:28:50.360 --> 0:28:56.920 pounds of Mexican weed. Wait, virgin here was I It 0:28:57.040 --> 0:29:00.840 means lots of seeds and you Reggie, so. 0:29:00.800 --> 0:29:03.600 It's call it Reggie regular weed. But to me, if 0:29:04.080 --> 0:29:06.080 Vancouver has been in the hierarchy of the weed game, 0:29:06.440 --> 0:29:08.320 I would just assume that, like and you're at a. 0:29:09.040 --> 0:29:11.280 Good like hydroponic, you don't want to smoke the seeds. 0:29:11.080 --> 0:29:14.400 Because you know it takes you. That's a sterile part to. 0:29:15.240 --> 0:29:21.440 Wait, I don't know if that's true. Time out, I 0:29:21.440 --> 0:29:24.440 don't know if there. 0:29:24.400 --> 0:29:27.680 That's what That's what I'm saying. Why is it taking 0:29:27.880 --> 0:29:29.920 three years for me to really wait? How are you 0:29:30.000 --> 0:29:32.160 just gonna let you come here and drink your milk? 0:29:32.200 --> 0:29:32.480 Seeds? 0:29:32.520 --> 0:29:36.160 Right? Parents smoke weed with seeds in them, and we 0:29:36.240 --> 0:29:37.880 stole them. We have to pick them out, and it 0:29:37.960 --> 0:29:39.720 pops and burns and seats and seats. 0:29:39.720 --> 0:29:42.720 This leather falls out of the joint. Sometimes. 0:29:42.720 --> 0:29:44.920 My dad's a cut all the time. God damn daddy, 0:29:44.920 --> 0:29:46.320 always smoking in your car looking at them. 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:51.040 Hosy, I did that. 0:30:00.240 --> 0:30:02.080 You started stand up at a young age? 0:30:02.120 --> 0:30:04.280 Yeah? Fourteen? Yeah, thirteen or fourteen? 0:30:04.520 --> 0:30:07.880 Okay, So the only person I know they had the 0:30:07.960 --> 0:30:09.000 experience with Chappelle. 0:30:09.160 --> 0:30:12.360 Yeah, how I think Eddie Murphy started around that. Yeah, 0:30:12.440 --> 0:30:14.000 so happy much better. How do you. 0:30:16.840 --> 0:30:19.880 How do you even negotiate your way into a club? 0:30:20.120 --> 0:30:24.640 Yeah? My mom helped, She would talk to She drove 0:30:24.680 --> 0:30:29.840 me to every show, literally because I couldn't drive at Yeah, 0:30:29.880 --> 0:30:34.160 And what's funny is very early on it's one of 0:30:34.160 --> 0:30:36.960 those like happy coincidences. I did a show that I 0:30:37.000 --> 0:30:39.440 did a fundraiser when I was like fourteen, a small 0:30:39.480 --> 0:30:42.880 one that the premiere who's like the governor kind of 0:30:42.880 --> 0:30:45.840 of British Columbia, was at and my mother cornered him 0:30:46.200 --> 0:30:48.600 and was like, if my son's performing at a bar, 0:30:49.000 --> 0:30:50.560 can he be in the bar? And the guy was like, 0:30:50.640 --> 0:30:53.720 legally yes, And she caught his office to send a 0:30:53.840 --> 0:30:57.920 letter wow, saying that as long as I was performing, 0:30:58.000 --> 0:31:00.360 it is legal for me to be in the press 0:31:00.400 --> 0:31:02.200 and I and I would have to leave right after. 0:31:02.520 --> 0:31:05.440 So like I would sit backstage and I would show 0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:07.320 it to the club. There was only four clubs anyway, 0:31:07.360 --> 0:31:08.840 but once they had all seen it, they would let 0:31:08.880 --> 0:31:12.240 me perform there. And and then I performed like regularly, 0:31:12.280 --> 0:31:14.160 and I was like, I was like pretty good, Like 0:31:14.200 --> 0:31:15.120 I wasn't what was it? 0:31:15.200 --> 0:31:17.040 Check? Like ad age did you get a check? 0:31:17.160 --> 0:31:18.920 Every once in a while, I would like open for 0:31:18.960 --> 0:31:21.320 a comic and I'd get like one hundred and fifty 0:31:21.320 --> 0:31:23.400 bucks or something like that, which when you're fucking. 0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:26.320 But did you use did you use your your kiddom? 0:31:26.600 --> 0:31:27.600 Did you use your youth? 0:31:27.920 --> 0:31:31.040 I tried not to. I tried to. I would well, 0:31:31.080 --> 0:31:34.040 at first, I didn't at all, and I because I 0:31:34.160 --> 0:31:37.320 was so self conscious about being like gimmicky that I 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:39.880 would try to tell your fourteen I know, things like 0:31:40.560 --> 0:31:44.160 the rocket as I was very neurotic, and I didn't 0:31:44.400 --> 0:31:48.200 want to be like the kid comics, so I tried 0:31:48.200 --> 0:31:51.240 to write jokes that that any comic would write that 0:31:51.280 --> 0:31:54.240 were like more like observational humor, but it were you Blue. 0:31:54.720 --> 0:32:01.840 I was always wanted Blue. I didn't actually at first 0:32:01.880 --> 0:32:04.800 at all. Also, but then I remember this comic Darryl Lennox, 0:32:04.840 --> 0:32:09.040 who still does stand up and he's great. He was like, 0:32:10.200 --> 0:32:12.880 I was telling you just like like all the cogs 0:32:12.920 --> 0:32:14.560 would make fun of me because I had a joke about 0:32:14.600 --> 0:32:16.520 like crazy glue, what's so crazy about it? And it 0:32:16.560 --> 0:32:20.800 was like the dumb MISSI observational tumer of all time. 0:32:21.240 --> 0:32:24.000 And then and then Darryl I remember like sat me 0:32:24.120 --> 0:32:26.640 down and I was like fifteen, and he was like, dude, 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:29.840 like you are the only one of us who's like 0:32:30.000 --> 0:32:33.960 experiencing all these things like in real time, Like you're 0:32:33.960 --> 0:32:36.080 trying to kiss girls for the first time, you're trying 0:32:36.080 --> 0:32:38.040 to get your driver's license, you're trying to buy beer, 0:32:38.080 --> 0:32:39.840 you're trying to go to parties, you're trying to sneak 0:32:39.840 --> 0:32:43.520 into strip clubs, like right. Jokes about that, like that's 0:32:43.560 --> 0:32:46.040 something that like everyone's gone through in some way and 0:32:46.080 --> 0:32:49.920 you're living it like right now, and and I was 0:32:49.960 --> 0:32:52.720 like okay. And then that was also one of the 0:32:52.760 --> 0:32:55.240 things that really influenced Super Bad, where we at first 0:32:55.240 --> 0:32:57.440 it was more like let's write a high school movie, 0:32:57.480 --> 0:32:59.800 and then we were like, no, let's write like whenever 0:33:00.080 --> 0:33:02.800 something happens to us, let's put it in the movie, 0:33:02.840 --> 0:33:06.040 and let's make us the characters in the movie, and 0:33:06.120 --> 0:33:07.400 let's like structure it around. 0:33:07.440 --> 0:33:10.160 So those things happened to you guys in super. 0:33:09.960 --> 0:33:13.040 Bed, not on in one night, but almost a lot 0:33:13.080 --> 0:33:16.440 of the stuff in the movie happened, yeah, like in 0:33:16.480 --> 0:33:18.280 some form or another, like. 0:33:18.440 --> 0:33:21.240 And everything you grind it up against the girl, and that. 0:33:21.160 --> 0:33:23.720 Happened at a school dance. Yeah, that that that actually 0:33:27.080 --> 0:33:30.440 And in real life, I was one of the guys, 0:33:30.480 --> 0:33:33.320 Like it played out almost verbatim as it did in 0:33:33.360 --> 0:33:36.960 the movie, except one of our friends was the Jodah 0:33:37.040 --> 0:33:38.680 character in real life, and I was one of the 0:33:38.720 --> 0:33:40.440 guys who was like what is that? Like what's on 0:33:40.480 --> 0:33:44.720 your leg there? And that's what happened. And so, yeah, 0:33:44.760 --> 0:33:46.120 it was a school dance and we all put our 0:33:46.120 --> 0:33:48.440 stuff in like the locker roob in like the Jym 0:33:48.520 --> 0:33:51.440 locker roob like before, and we were getting it after 0:33:51.480 --> 0:33:54.520 the dance and yeah, and like one of our friends 0:33:54.560 --> 0:33:56.800 was like, did you spill it yourself? We were there 0:33:56.800 --> 0:33:59.600 like looking at it and then and then what happened? 0:33:59.640 --> 0:34:01.400 And we kind of allude to this to the movies. 0:34:01.440 --> 0:34:03.440 We noticed on the other side of the locker room 0:34:03.480 --> 0:34:06.040 there was another group of guys having the exact same 0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:09.680 conversation and they were all like looking at their friend's 0:34:09.719 --> 0:34:14.120 legs pokagaping like what is that? Did you spill? I mean, 0:34:14.280 --> 0:34:16.920 like the two groups like locked eyes from across the 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:18.680 room and it was like this, guys are so like 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:23.200 moment bro. It was like, oh no, I think we 0:34:23.320 --> 0:34:27.080 have a situation on our hands. And then there was 0:34:27.160 --> 0:34:31.960 a lot of like cross referencing who they had danced with, and. 0:34:32.200 --> 0:34:35.279 Wait, I got a preface for two people who haven't 0:34:35.840 --> 0:34:40.680 seen Super Bad. There's there's a crucial scene where there's 0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.520 a dance sort of grindy dance moment in which a 0:34:43.560 --> 0:34:48.960 girl rubs her crouch on Jonah Hill's I think it's pronounced. 0:34:51.200 --> 0:34:54.839 I forgot it's inside yea. 0:34:54.920 --> 0:35:02.799 Anyway, I'm una bekno to Jonah Hill. His thighs or 0:35:02.840 --> 0:35:07.240 his jeans are now maroon five. Yes, they got period 0:35:07.280 --> 0:35:08.880 of their bloody period. 0:35:09.320 --> 0:35:11.279 It happened. Oh wait, you're just getting that now. 0:35:11.360 --> 0:35:13.840 I just remember I thought he I couldn't remember on himself. 0:35:13.600 --> 0:35:23.399 Or also on the table that was long shot almost. 0:35:25.600 --> 0:35:25.799 You know. 0:35:26.000 --> 0:35:30.640 My favorite my favorite thing about I visit a lot 0:35:30.680 --> 0:35:33.719 of local comedy houses in New York. My favorite thing 0:35:34.000 --> 0:35:40.879 is actually watching uh people bomb NFL. No, no, only 0:35:40.920 --> 0:35:44.640 because like now I'm entering the stage of my life 0:35:44.640 --> 0:35:47.440 where I'm gonna have to give a lot more public addressing. 0:35:48.360 --> 0:35:51.400 And it's always how you handle yourself in that moment 0:35:52.360 --> 0:35:55.640 that separates the men from the boys. So a lot 0:35:55.680 --> 0:35:57.680 of times, like if you watch, if you go to 0:35:58.800 --> 0:36:02.520 like I love going to the store in LA when 0:36:02.560 --> 0:36:06.000 it's the like the one am show, the very last show, 0:36:06.360 --> 0:36:08.840 and usually like the last three people's are always like 0:36:09.000 --> 0:36:12.279 the doorman, the bell guy, like okay, I'll let you 0:36:12.360 --> 0:36:14.319 go up and do five minutes, like everyone's left the room. 0:36:14.440 --> 0:36:16.719 Yeah, I performed there at that time when I was 0:36:16.760 --> 0:36:18.080 like sixteen years old. 0:36:18.400 --> 0:36:21.839 Because I feel in my mind that whenever I'm watching them, 0:36:22.480 --> 0:36:27.560 then I believe at one point either not Jerard Carmichael, 0:36:27.760 --> 0:36:32.680 who's the guy that I liked, America's Yea, Jamar Nighbors 0:36:32.800 --> 0:36:35.520 was one of those guys and he's hilarious, like he's 0:36:35.520 --> 0:36:39.759 one of Jerrod Carmichael's dudes. But like it's always the 0:36:39.840 --> 0:36:43.440 last three people on the late the graveyard shift that 0:36:43.760 --> 0:36:45.839 I love watching them the most to see how they 0:36:45.840 --> 0:36:49.879 adjust to it. Have you, when you were in sort 0:36:49.920 --> 0:36:53.359 of developing your skills or whatnot, have you ever had 0:36:53.400 --> 0:36:57.640 to resort to what they would call the what's the syndrome? 0:36:59.239 --> 0:37:02.839 Like aristocrat syndrome or when you know that you've done 0:37:02.840 --> 0:37:07.759 a bad set and you're just performing for your buds, like, yeah, 0:37:07.800 --> 0:37:10.879 I fucked up in always did everyone do the aristocrats? 0:37:10.880 --> 0:37:14.319 It was at another thing where I never did that specifically, 0:37:14.440 --> 0:37:17.120 but there was I mean, yeah, shit would go bad 0:37:17.200 --> 0:37:21.080 and they would and there would be times yeah, where 0:37:21.560 --> 0:37:23.279 you would just kind of throw it all out and 0:37:24.200 --> 0:37:28.080 it was like, uh yeah. Like I think managing the 0:37:28.160 --> 0:37:33.480 audience's discomfort is something that is a lesson that I 0:37:33.560 --> 0:37:36.879 learned at a young age, and that like you can 0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:41.239 carry with you across many different avenues of life, and 0:37:41.280 --> 0:37:44.319 I think that that's something that is very valuable. And 0:37:44.400 --> 0:37:47.000 I did it, Yeah, I remember doing But my friends 0:37:47.040 --> 0:37:49.200 could never come watch me though, because I was a 0:37:49.280 --> 0:37:51.480 kid and they weren't allowed it to the club, so 0:37:51.880 --> 0:37:54.279 it was always strangers. But I had times when just 0:37:54.440 --> 0:37:56.640 group tablesful adults would get up and leave. It was 0:37:56.760 --> 0:37:59.279 terrible and they I remember performing at the Impro. I 0:37:59.320 --> 0:38:02.520 remember coming la to audition for the Just for Last 0:38:02.520 --> 0:38:05.480 Festival when I was like fifteen and going to the 0:38:05.520 --> 0:38:11.440 improv and Jerry Seinfeld decided to drop in at the 0:38:11.680 --> 0:38:15.359 Just for Last stand up comedy showcase went on right 0:38:15.480 --> 0:38:19.000 before me fucking annihilated. 0:38:19.800 --> 0:38:22.520 Hey when that happened, When the big star comes in, 0:38:22.600 --> 0:38:24.360 it's like, hey, I'm want to practice that. 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:27.360 Comedy show Yes on a fucking showcase. 0:38:27.480 --> 0:38:29.200 Did you ever get to tell Jerry what he did 0:38:29.200 --> 0:38:29.560 to you? 0:38:29.680 --> 0:38:35.680 Yes, he could not have been more indifferent. And then 0:38:35.800 --> 0:38:38.359 I went up after him, and I literally, like to 0:38:38.400 --> 0:38:41.319 this day, remember standing on the stage and it being 0:38:41.440 --> 0:38:44.839 so quiet. I could hear the electric hum of the 0:38:44.880 --> 0:38:49.120 s and I'd been doing set up for years at 0:38:49.120 --> 0:38:52.080 that point and I had never heard that sound. Remember 0:38:52.120 --> 0:38:54.680 like thinking to myself like, wow, like have the speaker's 0:38:54.680 --> 0:38:57.239 always been making that sound and I just haven't heard it? 0:38:57.360 --> 0:39:01.840 Or do these ones have like a particularly loud I 0:39:01.840 --> 0:39:04.640 just remember hearing like I was like, oh that's a 0:39:04.680 --> 0:39:08.279 new one. Yeah. It was brutal. So at the time 0:39:08.320 --> 0:39:09.799 I didn't get into the just for last est. 0:39:12.400 --> 0:39:18.560 So Jerry, yes, could you explain how you got inside 0:39:18.600 --> 0:39:22.440 of the I guess the mafia of the what I 0:39:22.520 --> 0:39:25.360 call the app Townia MAFIAU. 0:39:25.960 --> 0:39:30.000 Yeah, I mean it was all I. I was doing 0:39:30.040 --> 0:39:32.279 stand up and I got an agent through stand up. 0:39:32.400 --> 0:39:36.080 And I was like sixteen or seventeen until high school 0:39:36.120 --> 0:39:38.040 was like going to end, and I like was not 0:39:38.120 --> 0:39:39.799 going to go to college. So I was like, I 0:39:39.800 --> 0:39:43.600 should I need money so I should start trying to 0:39:43.640 --> 0:39:47.400 audition for things. And my plan if you asked me 0:39:47.440 --> 0:39:48.759 that point when my plan was I'll be like, oh, 0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:51.200 I'll move to LA after high school and I'll try 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:52.040 to do stand up. 0:39:51.960 --> 0:39:53.560 And so you wanted to be a straight up stand 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:54.239 up comment, Yeah, And. 0:39:54.239 --> 0:39:55.520 Then I thought maybe I'll get like on like a 0:39:55.560 --> 0:39:57.400 sitcom that was kind of like the only precedent of 0:39:57.440 --> 0:40:00.399 that in that time. That was like the thing that 0:40:00.600 --> 0:40:03.480 seemed the most achievable because it was like Seinfeld was on, 0:40:03.840 --> 0:40:06.440 like everybody loves Raymond and Martin like that. Like at 0:40:06.480 --> 0:40:08.239 the time, it seemed like if you were a successful 0:40:08.280 --> 0:40:11.399 stand up, you got a sitcom. And I always liked 0:40:11.480 --> 0:40:15.080 movies more and so that was always something that I 0:40:15.160 --> 0:40:18.600 like wanted, but it wasn't as like it didn't seem 0:40:18.920 --> 0:40:20.680 it seemed like the types of movies I wanted to 0:40:20.680 --> 0:40:23.360 make at that time especially were like very small independent movies, 0:40:23.400 --> 0:40:25.879 and at that time, Super Bad seemed like it would 0:40:25.920 --> 0:40:27.920 be like like Rushmore, you know what I mean, like 0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.200 not in its artfulness, but just in its scope, you know. 0:40:31.960 --> 0:40:35.800 And I think that then I moved. So I auditioned 0:40:35.840 --> 0:40:38.799 for Freaking Geeks. Was a second audition I got out 0:40:38.960 --> 0:40:41.480 sent out on and the auditioned kids out of Vancouver 0:40:42.000 --> 0:40:45.400 like they did international. Wait, you all were from Vancouver. No, 0:40:45.560 --> 0:40:48.600 they did international, So they auditioned in New York, in 0:40:48.680 --> 0:40:51.840 Chicago and Boston and Toronto and Vancouver, and I like, 0:40:52.080 --> 0:40:55.000 I went in for an audition one morning in Vancouver 0:40:55.080 --> 0:40:57.000 and and then I got it. And then I moved 0:40:57.000 --> 0:41:00.640 to LA and uh, the same people I watched. 0:41:01.560 --> 0:41:04.680 I watched that show in the first man, don't let 0:41:04.760 --> 0:41:07.480 people I know people now like to revision it like yo, man, 0:41:07.880 --> 0:41:08.960 freaking gigs with my ship. 0:41:09.040 --> 0:41:09.200 Man. 0:41:09.239 --> 0:41:11.000 You're like, oh, yeah, well if it was, then why 0:41:11.400 --> 0:41:13.120 why watch it? 0:41:13.239 --> 0:41:13.439 Yeah? 0:41:14.520 --> 0:41:18.839 Well I watched it because during the time of us recording, 0:41:19.400 --> 0:41:20.399 Uh do you want more? 0:41:20.560 --> 0:41:22.520 Yeah, there was always a TV on the break. 0:41:22.680 --> 0:41:22.839 Yeah. 0:41:22.960 --> 0:41:26.280 So that's how I remember freaking geeks. That was my favorite. 0:41:26.719 --> 0:41:28.960 I thought, oh man, this is way better than my 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:30.880 so called life years Like. 0:41:30.960 --> 0:41:32.320 Damn, I was just thinking about that as he was 0:41:32.360 --> 0:41:33.239 talking shit, I. 0:41:33.239 --> 0:41:38.320 Can get like, were you excited of the the critical 0:41:38.400 --> 0:41:39.040 claim it got? 0:41:39.080 --> 0:41:43.960 And did you I had no. I was like a 0:41:44.000 --> 0:41:47.479 seventeen year old podhead from Vancouver who like, I had 0:41:47.560 --> 0:41:51.880 no concept of any of that shit. Like I remember being. 0:41:51.760 --> 0:41:54.200 Like, you're in a business man, yet I just didn't. 0:41:54.480 --> 0:42:00.640 I think I was so I was. I was really confident, 0:42:00.800 --> 0:42:04.719 and I felt like everything like when someone's like your's 0:42:04.760 --> 0:42:06.800 everyone loves your show, like it has one hundred percent 0:42:06.880 --> 0:42:09.560 good reviews, I was like, yeah, it's fucking great, like 0:42:09.560 --> 0:42:12.480 like it wasn't like really, it was like, of course 0:42:12.520 --> 0:42:14.840 we're putting out great shit, like there's nothing like this 0:42:14.920 --> 0:42:19.080 on TV, like of course everyone like and if anything, 0:42:19.120 --> 0:42:21.759 that made it more frustrating that no one was watching it, 0:42:21.840 --> 0:42:24.719 because like we knew it was good. And that's like 0:42:24.760 --> 0:42:26.879 I look back on and think, like I didn't even 0:42:26.960 --> 0:42:29.319 think of the quality of the show when I went 0:42:29.400 --> 0:42:32.080 and did it, like I it could have been the world. 0:42:32.200 --> 0:42:34.120 Like I was just like a job, I'll take it. 0:42:34.160 --> 0:42:36.520 And then I remember getting to la and to shoot 0:42:36.520 --> 0:42:38.520 the pilot, and it wasn't even until then that I 0:42:38.640 --> 0:42:42.360 got the full script, like the day before we started filming, 0:42:42.360 --> 0:42:43.880 and then I remember reading it and being like, oh, 0:42:43.880 --> 0:42:46.520 there's like jokes about shrooms in here and shit like that. 0:42:46.600 --> 0:42:48.759 And then we rehearsed for one day and they were 0:42:48.760 --> 0:42:50.120 like what would you say here? And then all of 0:42:50.160 --> 0:42:52.920 a sudden, we were improvising and they were letting us 0:42:52.920 --> 0:42:55.640 add jokes about Hitler and all this stuff, and we 0:42:55.640 --> 0:42:58.200 were like, this is really different. And then when we 0:42:58.239 --> 0:43:01.440 started shooting it, we were like again, Like the director 0:43:02.160 --> 0:43:04.640 was from the independent film world, Jake Kasden had just 0:43:04.640 --> 0:43:07.319 made Zero Effect, which was a movie I was a 0:43:07.320 --> 0:43:10.160 big fan of. So it was like, oh, yeah, we 0:43:10.280 --> 0:43:14.240 have like these writers and directors who were like doing 0:43:14.280 --> 0:43:16.640 the exact stuff that I liked. So when it turned 0:43:16.640 --> 0:43:20.560 out great, it was like again I was So I 0:43:20.840 --> 0:43:23.160 was really like spoiled at that time because I was 0:43:23.200 --> 0:43:25.160 just like, yeah, you make something a Chrystmas. 0:43:27.360 --> 0:43:30.000 Together, Like, Oh, the creator the Larry Sanders Show has 0:43:30.040 --> 0:43:32.160 this new knew that. 0:43:32.400 --> 0:43:36.240 But I didn't. Again, I didn't realize I think, how 0:43:36.560 --> 0:43:38.759 like I didn't realize a how just because you did 0:43:38.760 --> 0:43:41.040 something good before it doesn't mean you'll keep doing things 0:43:41.040 --> 0:43:43.520 that everyone appreciates. Like I was a fan of the 0:43:43.600 --> 0:43:46.719 Larry Sanders Show, a huge fan and grew up watching it, 0:43:46.760 --> 0:43:50.680 and but I didn't like I think when I took 0:43:50.719 --> 0:43:52.279 the when I first got cast on the show, I 0:43:52.320 --> 0:43:54.240 had no idea jud it even I didn't know Judge 0:43:55.920 --> 0:43:57.719 was I know Judd worked on the Larry Sanders Show. 0:43:57.800 --> 0:44:00.680 There was no IMDb at this time. There was no 0:44:00.760 --> 0:44:05.080 way to look up who you were working with. Yeah, 0:44:05.120 --> 0:44:08.000 like I had no idea the internet. Yeah, there was 0:44:08.040 --> 0:44:09.880 no like work. Maybe there's IMDb, but I didn't know 0:44:09.880 --> 0:44:11.719 how to use it. Yeah, there was no like organized 0:44:11.719 --> 0:44:13.120 way of checking any of that ship. 0:44:13.239 --> 0:44:15.200 This is like and did Jane Franklin didn't even hit 0:44:15.200 --> 0:44:16.040 the soap shit right? 0:44:16.200 --> 0:44:18.880 Like no, it was like no one had done anything. 0:44:19.200 --> 0:44:22.200 And so yeah it was. But then it started airing 0:44:22.320 --> 0:44:23.920 as we were shooting, and then they just were like, 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:26.120 no one's watching this ship. And it was on Saturday 0:44:26.200 --> 0:44:28.640 night at eight or some shit like that against cops. 0:44:28.760 --> 0:44:31.440 I remember just like joking like cops beats us. We're 0:44:31.520 --> 0:44:34.279 fucked and they cops beat us, and it was like, oh. 0:44:34.280 --> 0:44:42.080 No, So when you gunny about Undeclared, no, because again 0:44:42.160 --> 0:44:44.600 I was did you feel like, okay, well we'll do 0:44:44.640 --> 0:44:45.400 a better version. 0:44:45.800 --> 0:44:47.000 I was like, oh, this time, will do like a 0:44:47.000 --> 0:44:48.920 more commercial version and we kind of work out the 0:44:49.000 --> 0:44:51.600 kinks and like again it was like the exact same 0:44:51.640 --> 0:44:54.080 thing happened where it was like very critically acclaimed and 0:44:54.080 --> 0:44:57.799 then no one watched it. But but that but I was. 0:44:58.080 --> 0:45:01.000 I was thrilled, honestly, like a writer and an actor. 0:45:01.120 --> 0:45:03.799 On Undeclared, I was eighteen years old, like it was. 0:45:05.120 --> 0:45:07.359 You know, it was like a very exciting thing for 0:45:07.400 --> 0:45:08.120 me to be doing. 0:45:08.200 --> 0:45:13.080 So, Uh, how hard is it living hand to mouth 0:45:13.120 --> 0:45:13.720 in that period? 0:45:13.719 --> 0:45:17.799 Because are you well he never had a did you 0:45:17.800 --> 0:45:19.120 ever have a regular job or anyone? 0:45:19.400 --> 0:45:23.399 I after undeclared, I didn't work for like three or 0:45:23.440 --> 0:45:27.240 four years. Basically, what did you do? I fucking spent 0:45:27.480 --> 0:45:33.759 very little money, but you still a server and I 0:45:33.800 --> 0:45:37.839 would help. Jud was very nice and he would get 0:45:37.880 --> 0:45:41.320 these super high priced rewriting jobs and then he would 0:45:41.640 --> 0:45:43.960 give me a little bitter to help him do it. 0:45:44.040 --> 0:45:47.480 So like I helped rewrite Bad Boys Too. As an example, 0:45:48.200 --> 0:45:53.000 time wait, time out. First of all, shut app it's out. Yes, 0:45:54.040 --> 0:45:55.920 it's like a secret thing. We wrote that joke, and 0:45:56.239 --> 0:45:57.879 that was in the trailer where they're singing the song 0:45:57.920 --> 0:46:00.000 and they forget the war, they like don't know the world. 0:46:02.760 --> 0:46:08.279 Oh yeah, and yeah it was like, yeah, that was 0:46:08.320 --> 0:46:11.560 one of the many things we did so maintenance. So 0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:14.320 what else did you do? Little things here and there? 0:46:14.360 --> 0:46:17.200 Like uh, one of the Big Mama's House movies I 0:46:17.239 --> 0:46:22.400 helped on for a few days. 0:46:22.640 --> 0:46:25.919 Wait, so stop in this moment because I was saying 0:46:25.920 --> 0:46:27.560 this because I know my whole family gonna get mad 0:46:27.600 --> 0:46:29.600 at me. But in this moment, are you understanding your 0:46:29.600 --> 0:46:33.040 white funny man because you know that you are like 0:46:33.480 --> 0:46:36.000 you like, this is a seriously it's a serious question. 0:46:36.120 --> 0:46:38.560 Like nobody else. If you hear the struggles of other 0:46:38.600 --> 0:46:41.720 comedians and things of other colors, women, da da da da, 0:46:41.800 --> 0:46:44.399 there is never a moment where they haven't had to 0:46:44.440 --> 0:46:47.120 like serve or do something that they didn't want to do. 0:46:47.200 --> 0:46:50.080 But it seems like since you were fourteen years old, 0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:53.400 you was on it. You needed final draft, you had it, 0:46:53.440 --> 0:46:55.600 you needed the camera, you had it. You this is 0:46:56.239 --> 0:46:57.600 any moment did you realize this? 0:46:57.840 --> 0:47:02.040 I was super, Yes, I was. I was very Yeah, 0:47:02.080 --> 0:47:07.080 I was never felt particularly downtrodden. I was very I 0:47:07.080 --> 0:47:09.520 felt lucky. I was very I always felt lucky and 0:47:09.640 --> 0:47:14.160 was very fortunate and like and and got that. Yeah, 0:47:14.160 --> 0:47:15.879 I mean there was a time when I was maybe 0:47:15.880 --> 0:47:17.880 gonna like there was a momentere I was like, I 0:47:17.960 --> 0:47:19.640 might have to move back to Vancouver because I was 0:47:19.680 --> 0:47:21.719 just running out of money and couldn't afford to live 0:47:21.760 --> 0:47:26.680 in la anymore. And that's when I got hired on 0:47:26.680 --> 0:47:30.680 the Algy Show. And that like continued that like yeah, 0:47:30.719 --> 0:47:33.360 and it was like a great. It was like a 0:47:33.400 --> 0:47:36.360 great job to have because like it was even it 0:47:36.440 --> 0:47:39.359 was like it sounded great in a room, Like it 0:47:39.400 --> 0:47:41.279 was like when we went on meetings and we were like, oh, 0:47:41.280 --> 0:47:45.160 we got yeah, we got nominated for Emmys. That was great. 0:47:45.239 --> 0:47:48.760 Like it was something that like basically I haven't stopped 0:47:48.800 --> 0:47:51.719 working since that. It was like that was like the 0:47:51.800 --> 0:47:52.759 thing that kind of kept me. 0:47:52.800 --> 0:47:56.400 Going because his because his brand of comedy sasa very cornant, 0:47:56.480 --> 0:48:01.840 because he's such a rogue, yeah, kind of archy comedian. 0:48:01.960 --> 0:48:03.520 How do you find his voice? 0:48:04.360 --> 0:48:05.000 Like how do you? 0:48:05.800 --> 0:48:07.920 It was like, and the type of stuff he does 0:48:08.040 --> 0:48:08.800 is more strolling. 0:48:09.320 --> 0:48:13.239 It was kind of it was hard, and I think 0:48:13.280 --> 0:48:15.359 he liked and I think it was good that we 0:48:15.360 --> 0:48:18.200 were so young and malleable at this time when we 0:48:18.200 --> 0:48:21.480 were working for him, like we were like twenty two 0:48:21.560 --> 0:48:23.760 or something like that, and so like he could really 0:48:24.239 --> 0:48:27.640 I think without some of like the kid gloves you 0:48:27.640 --> 0:48:30.440 would use with older people, being like here's what you 0:48:30.560 --> 0:48:33.800 have to do, here's what we do. Do exactly fucking 0:48:33.920 --> 0:48:38.359 this and nothing else, forget everything, you know, just do this. 0:48:38.480 --> 0:48:41.600 So he likes like yeah, and and and he would 0:48:41.680 --> 0:48:43.840 literally lock us in a room and be like write 0:48:43.880 --> 0:48:47.440 two hundred interview questions for me to be an interviewing 0:48:47.680 --> 0:48:51.200 like an environmentalist in a tree, like and like, don't 0:48:51.200 --> 0:48:52.759 come out of that room till you've written me two 0:48:52.880 --> 0:48:53.640 hundred questions. 0:48:55.000 --> 0:48:55.359 Well he did. 0:48:55.600 --> 0:48:58.120 Yeah, we came on for Bruno and then we went 0:48:58.160 --> 0:48:59.560 on the road with him. We went to spring Break, 0:48:59.600 --> 0:49:03.239 we did other spring break stuff with Bruno. It was insane. 0:49:04.400 --> 0:49:05.320 He almost got killed. 0:49:07.239 --> 0:49:10.040 What happens when you go to. 0:49:10.320 --> 0:49:14.240 Uh like Daytona Beach. Yeah, it was crazy. What's funny 0:49:14.280 --> 0:49:16.640 is I had to kind of hide because I was 0:49:16.719 --> 0:49:20.200 not famous, but I was like one in every hundred. 0:49:20.200 --> 0:49:24.000 People knew me from freaks and geeks, and so I 0:49:24.239 --> 0:49:26.560 was kind of had to like I was like relegated 0:49:26.600 --> 0:49:29.400 to the hotel room because like they were. He was 0:49:29.440 --> 0:49:31.479 just like the chance that someone sees you and puts 0:49:31.520 --> 0:49:34.400 two and two together is like two great. So, like 0:49:34.480 --> 0:49:36.480 we would travel from city to city and me and 0:49:36.520 --> 0:49:39.040 Evan would literally just sit in a hotel room and 0:49:39.040 --> 0:49:41.120 whatever city we were in and like Andy, they come 0:49:41.120 --> 0:49:43.800 back Elast, yeah exactly. And they would come back and 0:49:43.840 --> 0:49:45.440 they would show us the footage and what they had 0:49:45.480 --> 0:49:47.960 done that day, and we would all just laugh hysterically 0:49:48.000 --> 0:49:50.279 and be amazed that they hadn't gotten killed and like 0:49:50.360 --> 0:49:53.720 it was, uh, it was fun. Yeah, it was great. Wow. 0:49:54.960 --> 0:49:59.240 All right, So I have so many questions about your movies, 0:49:59.280 --> 0:50:00.879 but I'm afraid we'll do just get stuck in one 0:50:00.920 --> 0:50:01.320 of them. 0:50:03.360 --> 0:50:07.040 One but this is it? 0:50:07.440 --> 0:50:10.880 Yes, yes, well, I mean there's so many, but I 0:50:11.400 --> 0:50:15.160 will say that for you know, forty year old Virgin 0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:22.279 was to me like, how how much input are you 0:50:22.480 --> 0:50:27.280 given for scripts? Or how open is Judd to having 0:50:27.560 --> 0:50:30.360 you guys adjust the comedy? The way that it looked, 0:50:30.520 --> 0:50:32.680 it almost seemed like this got to be on the 0:50:32.719 --> 0:50:34.719 spot and he just say keep the cameras rolling. 0:50:34.719 --> 0:50:39.040 A lot of improvised Yeah, I was, I would say, 0:50:39.120 --> 0:50:43.000 like because super Bad had been written and no one 0:50:43.000 --> 0:50:45.880 would make it. And same with Pineapple Express. So you 0:50:45.960 --> 0:50:49.920 was still shopping it actively and me and Evan and 0:50:50.120 --> 0:50:53.080 my especially because Evan was in college at the time 0:50:53.280 --> 0:50:56.000 and wasn't there all the time. Like I was always like, 0:50:56.080 --> 0:50:58.600 people want to see a movie where people talk like this, 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:02.160 like more than anything. That's what I had a strong 0:51:02.800 --> 0:51:06.440 feeling of, was like they want a comedy where people 0:51:06.440 --> 0:51:10.840 where it's conversational and not so like Plucky and jokey, 0:51:11.000 --> 0:51:13.800 and it just feels like people talking, they're swearing a lot, 0:51:14.120 --> 0:51:17.880 and and and like it's like taking like again because 0:51:17.960 --> 0:51:19.799 we grew up loving pulp fiction and clerks, and we 0:51:19.800 --> 0:51:22.440 were just like, if you can really gear that towards 0:51:22.440 --> 0:51:26.400 like comedy and like in a great way. And and 0:51:26.480 --> 0:51:30.320 since no one would make super Bad Judd like and 0:51:30.520 --> 0:51:34.200 me and him together thought that if we could make 0:51:34.320 --> 0:51:36.799 these the guys who work in the store kind of 0:51:36.840 --> 0:51:38.879 be almost like a it's almost almost like a weird 0:51:38.920 --> 0:51:43.840 testing ground for like that type of conversational comedy, whereas 0:51:43.920 --> 0:51:47.600 Corel's character was this like sweet kind of like island 0:51:47.640 --> 0:51:49.160 in the middle of the movie. We were like, if 0:51:49.200 --> 0:51:51.440 we can make these guys like, why don't we try 0:51:51.440 --> 0:51:54.800 this where we improvise and have it be very conversational 0:51:54.880 --> 0:51:57.000 and you guys can swear a lot and say all 0:51:57.040 --> 0:51:59.320 the sick shit you say to each other that makes 0:51:59.360 --> 0:52:03.319 each other laugh behind the scenes, but we never say 0:52:03.320 --> 0:52:06.240 it on camera, always like that's too much, that's too crazy, 0:52:06.320 --> 0:52:08.680 or people won't like that. But we were like, what 0:52:08.680 --> 0:52:11.920 if we do that on camera, you know? And that 0:52:12.080 --> 0:52:15.680 was really like the first time that any of us 0:52:15.680 --> 0:52:18.839 had done that. I think, like it was they had 0:52:18.880 --> 0:52:22.439 done Anchorman where it was it was different though, because 0:52:22.440 --> 0:52:25.560 the movie is tonally not real, so like it's not 0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.759 They improvised a lot, but it wasn't like actual conversations 0:52:28.800 --> 0:52:31.600 because it's like under this umbrella of like a false reality, 0:52:31.640 --> 0:52:34.839 you know. But this was the first time where it 0:52:34.920 --> 0:52:38.040 was literally like you can just say whatever you think 0:52:38.040 --> 0:52:41.440 you would say in this situation and there's no rating, 0:52:41.920 --> 0:52:45.840 like and we had never played in that environment before 0:52:46.360 --> 0:52:49.080 and it was really the first time where we were 0:52:49.120 --> 0:52:51.080 all like, oh, we can really let it rip. And 0:52:51.120 --> 0:52:55.560 I remember the I had improvised that thing about going 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:58.040 to Tijuana and like seeing a woman fucking a horse, 0:52:58.080 --> 0:53:01.960 and it's like it's like he comes into the or 0:53:02.000 --> 0:53:04.360 he comes it's like Corell comes into work and he 0:53:04.480 --> 0:53:07.160 explained making an egg salad sandwich and he's like, what 0:53:07.280 --> 0:53:08.960 you do this weekend? I'm like, why I went to Tijuaana. 0:53:08.960 --> 0:53:11.600 We went to see this woman horse and like it 0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:15.359 was not that cool, Like it was kind of gross, 0:53:14.920 --> 0:53:18.319 and I remember like and it was like pretty. It 0:53:18.400 --> 0:53:20.480 was like on the scale of like the types of 0:53:20.520 --> 0:53:22.880 things people were saying in movies at that time, on 0:53:23.040 --> 0:53:25.759 like the very far end of the spectrum. 0:53:25.280 --> 0:53:28.800 Which is why I asked you about the Aristocrats exactly. 0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:32.759 Yeah, and so that and we were just making each 0:53:32.800 --> 0:53:35.799 other laugh. And I remember before the first screening we 0:53:35.800 --> 0:53:39.719 were like, if people like, if that works, then like 0:53:40.560 --> 0:53:43.919 then we're fine. Like then all these instincts we have 0:53:44.040 --> 0:53:46.680 of like what people want might be right. And I 0:53:46.719 --> 0:53:50.800 remember like it was like like on like that moment 0:53:50.920 --> 0:53:53.000 was like a life changing moment in many ways, like 0:53:53.040 --> 0:53:55.440 sitting in the theater when that part came on for 0:53:55.520 --> 0:53:58.600 the first time and seeing the audience just like explode 0:53:58.680 --> 0:54:01.640 in laughter, and like you could see it was just 0:54:01.680 --> 0:54:05.560 like shocking to them, but all so funny and also 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:07.760 felt kind of real. And I remember so many people 0:54:07.760 --> 0:54:09.080 come up to me after we came out and be like, 0:54:09.160 --> 0:54:11.080 you remind me so much of a guy I used 0:54:11.120 --> 0:54:12.840 to work with, And you remind me so much of 0:54:12.920 --> 0:54:15.319 this weirdo who was in the back room at this 0:54:15.600 --> 0:54:18.040 place I would go to and like and and and 0:54:18.320 --> 0:54:20.760 you could see that we were kind of like tapping 0:54:20.760 --> 0:54:25.560 into this like relatable form of comedy that people you 0:54:25.560 --> 0:54:27.280 know at that time. It was like Dumb and Dumber, 0:54:27.320 --> 0:54:29.000 which I love, like it is one of my favorite 0:54:29.000 --> 0:54:35.759 movies ever. But it is not relatable, naturalistic conversational comedy. 0:54:35.880 --> 0:54:42.040 You know, it's huge, crazy gags and very specifically like 0:54:42.040 --> 0:54:44.879 written in staged bits right and very smart. 0:54:44.880 --> 0:54:47.520 Can I just give you credit to for putting an 0:54:47.640 --> 0:54:51.120 actor in their lesser known name, Evin Hart, Kevin Hart, 0:54:52.840 --> 0:54:55.759 the dude Jared, I want to say his name, right, Jerry, 0:54:55.880 --> 0:54:59.279 He's funny. The East Indian guy who's just stopped everyway? 0:54:59.520 --> 0:55:05.680 Is he okay? He is? Okay? The other guy not okay? Yeah, 0:55:05.840 --> 0:55:08.880 I was like, Jerry's fine. 0:55:09.360 --> 0:55:10.800 The one that was working in the store that was 0:55:10.960 --> 0:55:11.879 kept saying nasty ship. 0:55:12.000 --> 0:55:14.480 Yes, what's funny about the guy who mixed up with 0:55:14.560 --> 0:55:16.919 the other guy? Not the other guy who might still 0:55:16.960 --> 0:55:20.520 be in jail. He is in jail, yes, okay, okay, okay, yeah, 0:55:20.719 --> 0:55:23.640 making sure he making sure Rry's great. Yeah, Kevin Hart 0:55:23.640 --> 0:55:31.480 was great. Attempted he did succeed, though, Damn damn. 0:55:31.719 --> 0:55:35.239 It's a shame that happened, because murder is bad and 0:55:35.320 --> 0:55:36.600 I do not like murder. 0:55:36.800 --> 0:55:38.799 You know, the conversations on the South when you have 0:55:38.880 --> 0:55:44.520 to explain that your feeling is murderers back. Let me 0:55:44.640 --> 0:55:46.280 just clarify murders back. 0:55:47.840 --> 0:55:50.759 So what I succeeding. 0:55:50.880 --> 0:55:52.120 What I want to ask is. 0:55:53.600 --> 0:55:56.120 When you got the pitch, When you got the pitch 0:55:56.200 --> 0:56:00.520 for forty old Virgin, Yeah, I'm when you got the 0:56:00.520 --> 0:56:01.279 pitch for knocked Up? 0:56:01.440 --> 0:56:01.680 Yes? 0:56:03.960 --> 0:56:08.240 How is it pitched to you so that you wouldn't 0:56:08.680 --> 0:56:12.719 take it personally? Because the thing is because because the 0:56:12.840 --> 0:56:17.640 underhand tone of what knocked Up really is is we're 0:56:17.719 --> 0:56:19.600 gonna pair this hot. 0:56:19.360 --> 0:56:24.040 Girl yeah with like you, I told you it's something. 0:56:24.160 --> 0:56:27.800 It's a joke. I was it. I appreciate you because 0:56:28.080 --> 0:56:30.879 you I was in on the joke, right. That's the thing. 0:56:30.880 --> 0:56:32.440 How do you not do the person I. 0:56:32.400 --> 0:56:34.239 Think and what I always I would actually think of that? 0:56:34.360 --> 0:56:37.080 Like one of the first other pieces of advice a 0:56:37.120 --> 0:56:39.200 stand up comic game. Me when I was like thirteen, 0:56:39.760 --> 0:56:42.279 was like whatever, he what's funny is this stand up 0:56:42.320 --> 0:56:45.040 comic looked exactly like Garth from Wayne's World. Like he 0:56:45.080 --> 0:56:47.319 was like a super skinny dude with long blonde hair 0:56:47.360 --> 0:56:50.880 and glasses. And he was like whatever. He's like, you 0:56:50.960 --> 0:56:53.760 have to let the audience know that you are self 0:56:53.800 --> 0:56:56.480 aware or they'll be uncomfortable. And he's like, so, if 0:56:56.480 --> 0:57:00.360 there's something about you that reads very obviously like don't 0:57:00.560 --> 0:57:03.640 ignore that thing, like let them know you are more 0:57:03.680 --> 0:57:05.680 aware of it than they could ever imagine. And he 0:57:05.760 --> 0:57:07.800 was like, he's like, my whole opening five minutes is 0:57:07.840 --> 0:57:10.239 about that I look like Garth, Like I fucking get it. 0:57:10.560 --> 0:57:14.200 And so I was always aware that I came across 0:57:14.239 --> 0:57:17.960 as like a schlubby, kind of stonery loser, and I 0:57:18.160 --> 0:57:21.440 was not. I wasn't in any way way self conscious 0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:24.800 about representing myself like that because I knew I was 0:57:24.880 --> 0:57:29.680 not that you got super confidence. I was too highly productive. 0:57:30.000 --> 0:57:34.760 I could date women like that that were that were 0:57:34.800 --> 0:57:37.960 well out of my league on a physical level. I 0:57:38.560 --> 0:57:40.960 I like, I had a job, I was gaining I 0:57:41.000 --> 0:57:42.960 had a nice apartment, I had nice car, like I 0:57:43.680 --> 0:57:46.000 was like at that point, like getting successful, you know. 0:57:46.120 --> 0:57:48.800 So it was not it was funny to me. And 0:57:48.840 --> 0:57:52.000 I remember jud we kept pitching these like crazy movies, 0:57:52.000 --> 0:57:53.600 mean and we were trying to make Pineapple Express Man 0:57:53.600 --> 0:57:55.400 like I want a big action movie, and he was 0:57:55.440 --> 0:57:58.040 like that, like he's like, you first just have to 0:57:58.040 --> 0:58:01.680 make something that like establishes who you are in the 0:58:01.720 --> 0:58:05.920 most like normal, relatable type of setting. And he just 0:58:05.960 --> 0:58:08.280 said it conversationally one day. It was literally like like 0:58:08.280 --> 0:58:09.720 like if you got a girl pregnant on the first 0:58:09.800 --> 0:58:11.720 date or something like, that's the type of movie we 0:58:11.760 --> 0:58:13.560 should make. And it was one of those things where 0:58:13.560 --> 0:58:15.800 it was like, oh, we actually could, That's actually a 0:58:15.840 --> 0:58:18.600 really good idea. What would that be like like? And 0:58:18.680 --> 0:58:21.320 him and his wife had got pregnant very early on 0:58:21.360 --> 0:58:24.600 in their relationship, and I think had to make some 0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:26.960 quick decisions as to whether or not they were going 0:58:27.000 --> 0:58:28.960 to kind of stay together and give it a go, 0:58:29.200 --> 0:58:32.800 you know, are just or what the just what the 0:58:32.840 --> 0:58:34.680 dynamics of the relationship were going to be, you know 0:58:34.720 --> 0:58:36.360 what I mean. I think they weren't planning on having 0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:41.880 a kid at that time. From my understanding, yes, exactly. 0:58:42.480 --> 0:58:46.560 Leslie's great, yeah, very funny, and so it was Yeah, 0:58:46.600 --> 0:58:49.720 so it was personal. It was personal to me because 0:58:50.120 --> 0:58:51.360 and I think the way that we were able to 0:58:51.400 --> 0:58:54.640 represent my living situation especially was highly personal to me. 0:58:54.680 --> 0:58:57.280 And all the roommates and and all those guys were 0:58:57.280 --> 0:58:59.680 actually my friends, and I actually had lived with almost 0:58:59.720 --> 0:59:01.400 all of them at one point or another, and so 0:59:02.080 --> 0:59:05.640 like it did seem like I really yeah, yeah, I 0:59:05.720 --> 0:59:07.800 was totally happy with it and thought I would be 0:59:07.880 --> 0:59:10.160 funny with it, you know, And there was a thing 0:59:10.160 --> 0:59:11.600 where I was just I remember being like, oh, I 0:59:11.640 --> 0:59:13.280 can just make this guy like worse and worse and 0:59:13.320 --> 0:59:16.600 worse and like just dumber and dumber and dumber. And 0:59:16.680 --> 0:59:19.120 it's almost like the Bower inappropriate, like the worst thing 0:59:19.200 --> 0:59:21.240 I could say on a date almost is like the 0:59:21.240 --> 0:59:25.680 funnier the whole movie becomes. So yeah, wow. 0:59:25.520 --> 0:59:27.600 Okay, did you and Catherinehige who ever circle back and 0:59:27.600 --> 0:59:28.320 become besties? 0:59:29.320 --> 0:59:35.400 No, we've run into each other, but yeah, I have 0:59:35.440 --> 0:59:37.840 no Yeah, I wish you the best. Get that? 0:59:41.640 --> 0:59:52.680 Yeah, Well, I mean okay, well I guess I'll ask. 0:59:52.960 --> 0:59:53.760 Okay, you don't have. 0:59:54.880 --> 0:59:57.720 No, no, No, it's not that I'm just saying that, is. 0:59:57.680 --> 0:59:58.920 There ever a fear? Okay? 0:59:59.160 --> 1:00:04.120 I go to thirty University and all that entails, you know, 1:00:04.320 --> 1:00:08.880 so I'm in in the io stormly is it's it's 1:00:08.880 --> 1:00:11.520 a university, sess. And now it's a big giant campus. 1:00:11.280 --> 1:00:14.120 In cathedral to which entertainment is built. 1:00:15.320 --> 1:00:20.320 So when you're how hard is it, in your opinion, 1:00:20.400 --> 1:00:22.920 how hard is it for women to get a seat 1:00:22.920 --> 1:00:23.520 at the table. 1:00:25.520 --> 1:00:29.200 Insanely hard, way harder, And. 1:00:29.000 --> 1:00:32.040 In light of what's happening now and how comedy sort 1:00:32.040 --> 1:00:34.080 of has to re examine itself. 1:00:34.760 --> 1:00:38.880 And what was cool in. 1:00:39.040 --> 1:00:43.240 Two thousand and six might get a raised eyebrow. 1:00:43.400 --> 1:00:49.480 Now, how has that eighteen we get a raised eyebrow 1:00:49.680 --> 1:00:50.160 out right? 1:00:51.480 --> 1:00:55.040 Yeah, So how does that affect not not how does 1:00:55.040 --> 1:00:56.880 it affect your world, but how does it affect the 1:00:56.920 --> 1:00:59.640 creative process? The fraternity process? 1:01:00.120 --> 1:01:01.520 Is a woman in the in the team. 1:01:02.240 --> 1:01:03.360 We have women on our team. 1:01:06.200 --> 1:01:10.760 But are you more or is it the climate right 1:01:10.800 --> 1:01:11.840 now in Hollywood? 1:01:11.880 --> 1:01:13.040 Are they super aware of it? 1:01:13.120 --> 1:01:15.800 Now? They say they are, But I don't think a 1:01:15.840 --> 1:01:18.720 lot has changed. And if you look at the movies 1:01:18.760 --> 1:01:20.960 that come out, almost all of them are made by 1:01:21.160 --> 1:01:25.840 white dudes, like you know, like it's very like not 1:01:26.200 --> 1:01:31.440 that the actual like decision to spend hundreds of millions 1:01:31.520 --> 1:01:36.160 of dollars in a new social direction has not happened. 1:01:36.200 --> 1:01:38.000 I don't think. I think people are talking about it, 1:01:38.040 --> 1:01:40.080 and it's like a topic of conversation that's a fun 1:01:40.120 --> 1:01:41.840 for people to say. And I think there's they're like 1:01:42.240 --> 1:01:45.080 inching towards that. But have I seen, like, oh, all 1:01:45.120 --> 1:01:46.560 of a sudden if you look at the slate of 1:01:46.560 --> 1:01:50.840 every major studio and they're all more equally distributed between 1:01:50.840 --> 1:01:51.440 men and women. 1:01:51.800 --> 1:01:56.240 No, that's not the case at all women. 1:01:56.360 --> 1:02:01.000 But yeah, and I think that that. But I think 1:02:01.080 --> 1:02:03.880 for us, I think we're lucky with comedy for us 1:02:03.920 --> 1:02:08.600 because we never like pedaled in that I don't think 1:02:08.680 --> 1:02:10.920 like we never pedled in something that I would have 1:02:11.040 --> 1:02:16.080 considered to be Like, you know, I think our comedy like, 1:02:16.320 --> 1:02:19.440 I'm never complaining that, like about like people being PC 1:02:19.840 --> 1:02:21.919 or like we can't say the stuff that we want 1:02:21.960 --> 1:02:24.680 to be able to say. Like to me, that is 1:02:24.760 --> 1:02:28.840 like not an issue, and like you're either the type 1:02:28.880 --> 1:02:32.439 of person that like you want your you know, your 1:02:32.440 --> 1:02:35.400 work reflects who you are no matter what, and so 1:02:35.560 --> 1:02:39.280 if you have your sensibilities trying to be in the 1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:41.800 right place at any given moment, then your work will 1:02:41.800 --> 1:02:45.320 reflect that. And I've found myself not really having to 1:02:45.360 --> 1:02:47.920 defend that much of what I've done in the moment 1:02:48.000 --> 1:02:51.600 that it has come out. I acknowledge that again a 1:02:51.600 --> 1:02:53.880 week later, you look back and you're like, WHOA, that's 1:02:53.920 --> 1:02:57.680 age poorly sometimes you know, like, yeah, I think there's 1:02:57.760 --> 1:03:00.360 jokes and sausage party that like twenty four hours after 1:03:00.400 --> 1:03:05.200 it came out, we're inappropriate. So maybe twenty four hours 1:03:05.240 --> 1:03:08.600 before it came out, But I think that you know, 1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:12.840 we we try not to be offensive, we try not 1:03:12.880 --> 1:03:15.600 to exclude people in our work. We try to be 1:03:15.680 --> 1:03:19.800 inclusive as possible, and and and we ourselves are those 1:03:19.880 --> 1:03:21.960 types of people. So it isn't this like chore to 1:03:22.560 --> 1:03:23.880 weave that into our work. 1:03:24.760 --> 1:03:26.280 And so I do just know that people now are 1:03:26.360 --> 1:03:32.040 hyper aware that that has to happen or that has 1:03:32.120 --> 1:03:35.320 to be a thing, Whereas you know before you don't think, like, okay, 1:03:35.560 --> 1:03:37.680 it might be inclusive. Am I infending this group or 1:03:37.720 --> 1:03:38.120 that group? 1:03:38.240 --> 1:03:41.840 I think, I think anything we're trying to be aware 1:03:41.880 --> 1:03:43.880 of for the last few years. And I think Neighbors 1:03:43.960 --> 1:03:48.160 is the first movie that we really made really trying 1:03:48.200 --> 1:03:54.600 to go into it acknowledging that traditionally, especially that type 1:03:54.600 --> 1:03:58.280 of relationship that mean rose, like a husband wife relationship 1:03:58.280 --> 1:04:00.560 in a movie is like always done as certain way, 1:04:00.640 --> 1:04:02.600 and we had to not do that, and like it's 1:04:02.600 --> 1:04:04.400 always based on the fact that they hate each other 1:04:04.720 --> 1:04:06.200 and that they're not happy, and that there's all this 1:04:06.280 --> 1:04:09.000 conflict in their relationship and that she's fucking lame most 1:04:09.040 --> 1:04:11.280 of the time and that like he's like the carefree, 1:04:11.320 --> 1:04:15.920 fun one and she's and like so that was I 1:04:15.960 --> 1:04:18.560 think the and it was before all this, you know, 1:04:18.680 --> 1:04:22.280 all the current you know kind of revelations that are happening. 1:04:22.320 --> 1:04:24.720 But even then we were like, just how do we 1:04:24.840 --> 1:04:27.720 not do this in a lame way, you know? And 1:04:27.800 --> 1:04:30.480 how do we And also like, we want the actors 1:04:30.520 --> 1:04:33.640 in the movie to be proud and happy with their work. 1:04:33.680 --> 1:04:35.760 And I think as someone who is both an actor 1:04:35.800 --> 1:04:39.760 and a writer and a director and a producer like I, 1:04:39.040 --> 1:04:41.880 I I understand what all those jobs entail, and I 1:04:42.000 --> 1:04:44.400 understand what it takes to make all the people doing 1:04:44.400 --> 1:04:47.640 those jobs feel like they're really doing something that they 1:04:47.680 --> 1:04:50.680 can be proud of and happy with. And that's something 1:04:50.720 --> 1:04:53.000 that was just started to become very important when I 1:04:53.000 --> 1:04:55.840 started to realize, like, oh, like, if we cast Rose 1:04:55.840 --> 1:04:58.000 Byrne in this role, we have to make it good 1:04:58.320 --> 1:05:00.760 and funny, and we have to make her excited to 1:05:00.800 --> 1:05:02.920 come into work every day, and we have to make 1:05:02.960 --> 1:05:04.360 it that when she leaves work at the end of 1:05:04.400 --> 1:05:06.920 the day, she really felt like she was as funny 1:05:06.960 --> 1:05:09.080 as anyone else and given the opportunity to be as 1:05:09.080 --> 1:05:10.960 funny as anyone else. So wait, not like she was 1:05:10.960 --> 1:05:13.080 told like you tell us to shut up as we 1:05:13.120 --> 1:05:16.000 say funny shit over here, you know, what I mean, how. 1:05:15.920 --> 1:05:18.760 Does that work? Okay, so how does that work? Like 1:05:19.160 --> 1:05:21.600 break it down like we're in third grade? Yeah, all right, 1:05:21.680 --> 1:05:26.360 So if you're heading a project, yeah, and you have 1:05:26.400 --> 1:05:29.560 to write for a specific character that you might not 1:05:30.480 --> 1:05:32.560 really have put a lot of effort or you know, 1:05:32.760 --> 1:05:35.280 like what's their background? And first of all, when you 1:05:35.320 --> 1:05:39.000 write for a character or write for a movie, does 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:42.080 each character have to have their own bio in your mind? 1:05:42.280 --> 1:05:46.360 Like to some degree I think, like backstory? Yeah, I 1:05:46.360 --> 1:05:48.880 think to some degree, I think it's it depends on 1:05:49.040 --> 1:05:52.320 how in like what's funny is like in this is 1:05:52.360 --> 1:05:56.080 the end? Like none of us really have any backstory. 1:05:56.760 --> 1:05:59.080 We're kind of just who you assume we are and 1:05:59.160 --> 1:06:03.480 you slowly and the emotional conflicts are very of the moment. 1:06:03.600 --> 1:06:06.760 It's based on you know, the word, you're seeing it 1:06:06.800 --> 1:06:11.040 play out in real time basically so. But in general, yes, 1:06:11.160 --> 1:06:14.360 like some sense of backstory is is helpful and the 1:06:14.360 --> 1:06:17.120 more you can think of, the more it's probably good. 1:06:17.160 --> 1:06:21.160 But for I think for something like Neighbors, the conversations 1:06:21.160 --> 1:06:23.880 were literally like how do we create a plot and 1:06:23.920 --> 1:06:27.760 a flow of events where that isn't contingent on these 1:06:27.800 --> 1:06:31.160 two characters having conflict with one another and instead is 1:06:31.240 --> 1:06:34.680 contingent on these two characters really being on the same 1:06:35.040 --> 1:06:39.400 team as one another, and right away that allowed both 1:06:39.520 --> 1:06:43.080 characters to be outrageous and silly and stupid, and neither 1:06:43.120 --> 1:06:45.680 one was trying to control the other. If anything, they 1:06:45.680 --> 1:06:49.000 were always like encouraging the other to do stupid or 1:06:49.000 --> 1:06:53.160 and stupider shit kind of. And so it's more understanding 1:06:53.360 --> 1:06:58.040 the dynamics going in and what the result that will produce. 1:06:58.080 --> 1:06:59.560 So it's like, if we go into the movie with 1:06:59.600 --> 1:07:02.000 this dynamic, the result will be this, And if we 1:07:02.040 --> 1:07:03.880 go and do it this typynamic, the result will be this. 1:07:04.000 --> 1:07:06.840 And so that's something we were aware of, is like, 1:07:06.920 --> 1:07:09.320 if we want the result to be this, the dynamic 1:07:09.400 --> 1:07:11.640 has to be very specific going into it, you know, 1:07:12.200 --> 1:07:13.520 And that that's what we tried to do. 1:07:13.680 --> 1:07:18.720 So kind of a three part question. Yeah, all right, Now, 1:07:19.200 --> 1:07:26.360 in your career, what is your preference would you rather 1:07:26.480 --> 1:07:33.560 lean towards directing a project or writing a project, to 1:07:33.560 --> 1:07:38.160 give to someone else to direct or what I would 1:07:38.200 --> 1:07:42.720 just say blind job, as in doing a project that 1:07:42.800 --> 1:07:48.200 you neither had no directing or no hand in writing it. 1:07:49.520 --> 1:07:53.760 I do that less and less, like I don't act 1:07:53.800 --> 1:07:57.320 in a lot of other people's movies, and I don't 1:07:57.320 --> 1:08:01.480 get asked to do a lot of other people's movies. Vehicles, 1:08:01.600 --> 1:08:06.439 Yeah exactly, But yeah, so it happens, and I do 1:08:06.440 --> 1:08:09.600 do it. Sometimes I think what I'm what I really 1:08:09.680 --> 1:08:12.560 enjoy is writing something with the hopes that I will 1:08:12.720 --> 1:08:14.960 direct it and act in it, which has happened. 1:08:15.040 --> 1:08:16.439 You want to wear all three hats? 1:08:16.640 --> 1:08:21.320 Yeah? Is a nightmare. No, it's it's almost at a weird. 1:08:21.320 --> 1:08:23.400 Thing We've also found is, in some ways, the more 1:08:23.520 --> 1:08:26.320 control we have over something and the more jobs we 1:08:26.400 --> 1:08:29.599 are filling, the less stressful it ultimately is because most 1:08:29.600 --> 1:08:31.800 of our stress comes from fear that other people are 1:08:31.840 --> 1:08:33.960 going to fuck our ship up. And so as long 1:08:34.000 --> 1:08:36.880 as we are controlling it, I'm not that worried. I'm 1:08:36.920 --> 1:08:40.040 more worried is the director going to ruin this thing? 1:08:40.240 --> 1:08:42.280 So that leads to this leads to. 1:08:42.880 --> 1:08:43.600 What have you learned? What? 1:08:45.280 --> 1:08:47.120 What have you learned about? 1:08:47.160 --> 1:08:47.479 Actually? 1:08:47.479 --> 1:08:49.360 I want to do too, what have you learned about? 1:08:49.479 --> 1:08:53.080 Green Hornet and the Simpsons? Which I think for comedy 1:08:53.080 --> 1:08:57.360 writer is sort of like this this honor of Wow, 1:08:57.520 --> 1:09:01.960 I'm doing it, I'm telling a Simpsons episode. Yeah, so 1:09:02.080 --> 1:09:05.519 what lessons have you learned in those two instances that 1:09:05.840 --> 1:09:10.519 you would have changed now or made you wiser? Yeah, 1:09:10.520 --> 1:09:14.320 I mean Green Hornet was and I'm not a no, no, 1:09:14.400 --> 1:09:15.400 no iconic kid. 1:09:15.600 --> 1:09:19.120 No, Yeah, it's not really Like I think a few 1:09:19.200 --> 1:09:23.040 things when I look back at that. One is I 1:09:23.160 --> 1:09:27.799 really overestimated like our control at that point in our careers. 1:09:28.040 --> 1:09:31.559 Like I think that at that point we had kind 1:09:31.560 --> 1:09:33.599 of always been able to do whatever we wanted, you know, 1:09:34.400 --> 1:09:38.960 And I didn't predict how much a bigger budget, like, 1:09:39.240 --> 1:09:40.760 but all the movies we'd made at that point were 1:09:40.760 --> 1:09:42.800 like twenty thirty million dollars. In Green Hornet was like 1:09:42.800 --> 1:09:45.400 one hundred and twenty million dollars. And I didn't quite 1:09:45.439 --> 1:09:48.240 predict what that hundred million dollars would do to the 1:09:48.320 --> 1:09:52.320 process and how before I would we literally wouldn't talk 1:09:52.360 --> 1:09:54.240 to the studio. Ever, all of a sudden, we were 1:09:54.240 --> 1:09:56.400 having meetings where we go through like every page of 1:09:56.400 --> 1:10:00.680 the script basically, and how like destructive that was to 1:10:00.800 --> 1:10:04.760 the process and how Yeah, and like the biggest, the 1:10:04.760 --> 1:10:07.240 biggest thing was was like we had an idea going 1:10:07.280 --> 1:10:11.920 into it that was slowly like completely you know, deconstructed 1:10:12.040 --> 1:10:14.200 and built into something else. And it's one of those 1:10:14.200 --> 1:10:16.519 things that happened so slowly that like. 1:10:16.520 --> 1:10:19.200 So they took yeah, and then said, well, we need 1:10:19.240 --> 1:10:20.200 to change this to make this. 1:10:20.200 --> 1:10:22.040 The exactly what if we did this, Oh, we need 1:10:22.080 --> 1:10:24.160 a big actor for this role, and what about this, 1:10:24.200 --> 1:10:25.639 and we need this and like but then. 1:10:25.560 --> 1:10:28.400 With Condri directing, Yeah, whom I thought. 1:10:28.360 --> 1:10:30.880 Would be good, I think what he and I've seen 1:10:30.920 --> 1:10:32.799 him since then, like, I think what he didn't predict 1:10:32.840 --> 1:10:36.760 also was the scope of it and how, And that's 1:10:36.800 --> 1:10:39.519 what because I think with artists and you probably can 1:10:39.560 --> 1:10:41.639 relate to this, Like I think the more you do 1:10:41.760 --> 1:10:45.040 your craft or whatever, the more you realize it's not 1:10:45.320 --> 1:10:47.600 only what you are doing, but it is how you 1:10:47.640 --> 1:10:50.200 were doing it. Like, if you're a painter, you not 1:10:50.320 --> 1:10:52.240 only want to choose what to paint, you want to 1:10:52.320 --> 1:10:54.080 choose what paint you use, and you want to make 1:10:54.080 --> 1:10:56.240 your own canvas maybe, and you want to choose where 1:10:56.240 --> 1:10:59.080 you painted and all this stuff, you know what I mean. 1:10:59.840 --> 1:11:03.560 But with film it's sometimes that gets wrestled away from you, 1:11:03.600 --> 1:11:05.719 where it's like here's the shot I want and here's 1:11:05.720 --> 1:11:07.880 how I think we should do it, and they'll be like, Nope, 1:11:07.880 --> 1:11:10.280 too expensive, here's how you're gonna do it and and 1:11:10.360 --> 1:11:13.519 that and that ruins the process, especially when you have 1:11:13.600 --> 1:11:15.960 a director like Gondry. And what I realized, I think 1:11:15.960 --> 1:11:18.320 what he realized is like his whole magic is not 1:11:18.840 --> 1:11:21.960 only in what he's doing, it's how he's doing it right. 1:11:21.960 --> 1:11:28.759 It's the materials used, literally, and that did not always 1:11:28.800 --> 1:11:33.559 apply to this scope of filmmaking basically and uh and 1:11:33.600 --> 1:11:38.600 it was just like uh, an inorganic combination of elements. 1:11:38.640 --> 1:11:40.679 And then there was a point, I think where you're 1:11:40.760 --> 1:11:43.439 just kind of like, this seems like it's going poorly. 1:11:43.520 --> 1:11:45.439 I slept terribly throughout the whole thing. 1:11:45.479 --> 1:11:48.640 You felt you felt, even yea during the process like 1:11:48.680 --> 1:11:50.639 this might not get out good for sure. 1:11:50.720 --> 1:11:52.960 It was like because it was rocky for like the 1:11:53.120 --> 1:11:54.800 year leading up to it. And there was a point 1:11:54.840 --> 1:11:57.479 and this was also something I would probably do differently now, 1:11:57.560 --> 1:11:59.559 Like we had just spent years working on it, and 1:11:59.600 --> 1:12:02.040 there's a moment where you're like do we stop or 1:12:02.240 --> 1:12:06.439 just keep going? Because like after years it was it 1:12:06.479 --> 1:12:09.240 felt weird to just stop anywhere. It was just like, 1:12:09.760 --> 1:12:12.080 I think we just have to see this through, like 1:12:12.600 --> 1:12:16.040 and and that is something that I probably wouldn't do now. Honestly, 1:12:16.080 --> 1:12:18.120 I think after that experience, I would just be like, 1:12:18.200 --> 1:12:20.280 let's just pull the plug and maybe we all wasted 1:12:20.320 --> 1:12:21.960 three years, but maybe we all learned a lot in 1:12:22.000 --> 1:12:24.479 that three years and have some good experiences. But I 1:12:24.520 --> 1:12:27.200 think like that's something at the time that I wasn't 1:12:27.240 --> 1:12:30.120 prepared to do, which was just say like, you know what, like, 1:12:30.320 --> 1:12:31.920 let's not fucking do this, you know. 1:12:32.400 --> 1:12:36.200 So my parallel question to you is, Okay, now, as 1:12:36.240 --> 1:12:38.040 a person that's been doing what I've been doing at 1:12:38.120 --> 1:12:42.400 least what I'm known for uh twenty five plus years, 1:12:44.040 --> 1:12:46.000 you know, we kind of had this discussion like are 1:12:46.000 --> 1:12:50.160 we sabotaging ourselves but not like wanting to go to 1:12:50.200 --> 1:12:51.000 bigger houses? 1:12:51.120 --> 1:12:52.599 Yeah, Like we're now in the. 1:12:52.520 --> 1:12:55.720 Place where it's like, hey, you guys do know that 1:12:55.760 --> 1:12:58.080 we could book a night at blah blah blah. Yeah, 1:12:58.120 --> 1:13:01.000 if you guys had the album time whatever immediate thing 1:13:01.080 --> 1:13:03.800 was fear like, no, I don't want to play you know, 1:13:03.920 --> 1:13:07.320 seventeen thousand, da da da, because I feel like my 1:13:07.479 --> 1:13:11.280 zone has always been in smaller theaters. Yeah, so for you, 1:13:12.920 --> 1:13:16.360 is is a nine figure budget sort of like a 1:13:16.840 --> 1:13:17.879 dragnet horns. 1:13:20.960 --> 1:13:24.440 It's like, like, would you attempt. 1:13:23.800 --> 1:13:28.000 To really go big or do you feel that, you know, 1:13:28.080 --> 1:13:31.760 when you do lower budget stuff, then. 1:13:31.720 --> 1:13:35.400 I think now in order, we're writing a movie now 1:13:35.439 --> 1:13:38.960 that would be expensive, like a pretty expensive movie, not 1:13:39.040 --> 1:13:39.720 quite Green Heart, but. 1:13:39.720 --> 1:13:42.120 I mean like a popcorn film, like yes, but like 1:13:42.160 --> 1:13:43.760 a Summer of twenty twenty one. 1:13:43.920 --> 1:13:45.880 Yeah, but like, but we're really trying to make it 1:13:45.920 --> 1:13:48.559 have all the stuff that we like out of movies, 1:13:48.600 --> 1:13:52.400 but we're trying to make like it's a more it's 1:13:52.400 --> 1:13:55.760 still like an R rated like action comedy basically, but 1:13:57.200 --> 1:14:01.360 we're the types of movies that are in theaters have changed, 1:14:01.439 --> 1:14:03.400 and I think that's something that we're also aware of, 1:14:03.479 --> 1:14:08.200 is we like a lot of what are It's interesting, 1:14:08.200 --> 1:14:12.400 Like we work backwards to some degree from like audience reaction, 1:14:13.000 --> 1:14:15.880 and we go to movies and we sit in theaters 1:14:15.880 --> 1:14:19.760 and you know, what makes people cheer and what makes 1:14:19.800 --> 1:14:23.080 people laugh, and what makes people shocked and what makes 1:14:23.240 --> 1:14:27.799 people scared, and that changes over the course of years, 1:14:27.840 --> 1:14:32.400 you know, like the things. You know, there's some movies 1:14:32.439 --> 1:14:34.280 that have come out that ten years ago got a 1:14:34.320 --> 1:14:36.800 certain reaction in theaters, and that same thing would not 1:14:36.880 --> 1:14:40.759 seem very exciting by today's standards. That shocking by today's standards, 1:14:41.040 --> 1:14:45.040 and so we are trying to evolve. We instinctually must 1:14:45.040 --> 1:14:49.240 evolve with the climate. And and we like making movies 1:14:49.240 --> 1:14:52.599 for theaters, and we creatively think backwards a lot from 1:14:52.640 --> 1:14:55.320 what would make a theater full of people have like 1:14:55.439 --> 1:14:58.320 this experience, Like what would make a theater full of 1:14:58.320 --> 1:15:02.679 people be on edge and then excited and then laughing 1:15:02.800 --> 1:15:06.320 and then sad and and and in or. But the 1:15:06.320 --> 1:15:10.000 theater part is the tricky part because a lot of 1:15:10.080 --> 1:15:12.519 movies like Super Bad today, for example, probably wouldn't be 1:15:12.520 --> 1:15:13.920 in theaters. It be hard to get it in theaters, 1:15:13.960 --> 1:15:15.840 you know what I mean. Knocked Up even would more 1:15:15.960 --> 1:15:19.040 likely be a Netflix movie today. It's just people talking 1:15:19.120 --> 1:15:23.479 in rooms. Like there's no you know, there's no big 1:15:23.520 --> 1:15:27.200 action in it, there's no like it's literally people sitting 1:15:27.280 --> 1:15:30.640 and talking for two hours, you know, like we go 1:15:30.680 --> 1:15:31.080 to circus. 1:15:31.600 --> 1:15:34.080 Organically, it wouldn't happen. But I mean, you gotta admit 1:15:34.200 --> 1:15:37.639 that you're coming from the canon of the app Town 1:15:37.800 --> 1:15:42.120 Apptown Mafia. Yeah, so even by six degrees of separation, 1:15:42.439 --> 1:15:48.080 like you know, you would you personally would have to myself, 1:15:48.280 --> 1:15:50.679 you would I would think you'd have to release eight 1:15:50.960 --> 1:15:56.280 bona Fide below ten rotten to me before I'm like 1:15:57.040 --> 1:15:58.439 n ninety seen Seth Morgan. 1:15:58.560 --> 1:16:00.680 You know, not all horror movies do well. I mean, 1:16:00.720 --> 1:16:03.320 you know, like, but even then I'm aware of it. 1:16:03.320 --> 1:16:06.639 It's still yeah, there's still some thing where it's like, oh, 1:16:06.680 --> 1:16:08.400 you're in it. 1:16:07.280 --> 1:16:10.680 It might be good. Yeah, you know, it's out there, 1:16:10.680 --> 1:16:14.680 but it's still like it's harder to get movies in 1:16:14.720 --> 1:16:17.719 theaters and it's harder to compete for the cultural attention 1:16:18.200 --> 1:16:20.240 like that, I think, and that to us is very 1:16:20.280 --> 1:16:23.360 important also is we like it when we make We've 1:16:23.400 --> 1:16:25.559 seen that in the past. We've made movies that like 1:16:25.640 --> 1:16:29.200 work their way into culture and they're referenced in rap 1:16:29.280 --> 1:16:32.000 songs and in other movies and on TV shows, and 1:16:32.040 --> 1:16:35.080 we like that, like we And that's not always a 1:16:35.080 --> 1:16:38.840 one to one thing with like success, it's just you know, 1:16:39.080 --> 1:16:41.360 it's something that only happens though really with movies that 1:16:41.400 --> 1:16:45.439 are in theaters, like movies on Netflix, it's are just 1:16:45.479 --> 1:16:47.760 streaming movies. It's much harder for them to capture a 1:16:47.760 --> 1:16:50.240 piece of the culture. And a movie like Mid Nineties, 1:16:50.240 --> 1:16:52.640 which was seen probably by one iota the amount of 1:16:52.640 --> 1:16:56.440 people that sees the average Netflix movie capture the cultural 1:16:56.439 --> 1:16:59.559 attention in a way that very few Netflix movies do 1:16:59.680 --> 1:17:01.920 because it was in theaters and when people saw it, 1:17:01.920 --> 1:17:03.599 they turned their phone off for two hours and they 1:17:03.800 --> 1:17:06.080 sat in a dark room and they actually watch it, 1:17:06.439 --> 1:17:09.439 And you don't do that with Netflix movies. And I 1:17:09.439 --> 1:17:12.559 think that is going to become when I look at 1:17:12.600 --> 1:17:15.400 why I want movies and theaters, that is it like. 1:17:15.439 --> 1:17:16.840 But that's not all the way true. Those stuff I 1:17:16.880 --> 1:17:19.200 was gonna tell you, Like some certain movies command you 1:17:19.240 --> 1:17:21.360 to turn off the lights, watch watched, like when The 1:17:21.400 --> 1:17:23.920 Irishman was one of those. This season, Dolamite was one 1:17:23.920 --> 1:17:25.639 of those season. It just depends, I think. 1:17:25.960 --> 1:17:28.960 Some I think for some people they choose. 1:17:28.640 --> 1:17:34.360 To watch Everythriend's just gonna have Nero Patinos. 1:17:35.200 --> 1:17:37.639 And there's a million people watching The Irishman like as 1:17:37.640 --> 1:17:40.400 they're on Twitter. Yes, I mean, And if it's in 1:17:40.439 --> 1:17:42.880 the theater, you don't even have watch like you have 1:17:43.000 --> 1:17:43.439 to watch it. 1:17:43.479 --> 1:17:45.360 And I think I saw it in the theater me too. 1:17:45.360 --> 1:17:47.920 I didn't want to watch me too, Netflix, and I 1:17:48.080 --> 1:17:48.439 love it. 1:17:48.760 --> 1:17:50.439 And I think when you put a movie in the theater, 1:17:50.560 --> 1:17:54.639 you're telling culturally. You were saying, like this is worth 1:17:54.720 --> 1:17:57.960 you putting your phone in your pocket for two hours, like, 1:17:58.560 --> 1:18:02.240 and you're asking people to do that, and that asks. 1:18:02.240 --> 1:18:05.080 It is a big ask, and I think that to 1:18:05.160 --> 1:18:08.160 that end, that's why we're writing a very expensive, big 1:18:08.200 --> 1:18:13.639 fun We understand what we're asking is not a light ask. 1:18:13.720 --> 1:18:18.760 We're asking you to give up your timon and in 1:18:18.840 --> 1:18:20.640 order to do that, we have to repay you with 1:18:20.760 --> 1:18:22.400 something that is worthy of it. 1:18:22.439 --> 1:18:25.200 So can I ask it apatole Mafia question? And for 1:18:25.320 --> 1:18:26.920 that reason, I'm gonna go back to something that I 1:18:26.960 --> 1:18:28.320 wanted to ask you guys when y'all were having the 1:18:28.360 --> 1:18:31.439 back and forth. Do y'all ever consider because as a 1:18:31.479 --> 1:18:34.040 woman of color, being a fan of what you guys do, 1:18:34.360 --> 1:18:36.799 I love it. Wouldn't change it, blah blah blah. However, 1:18:36.960 --> 1:18:38.800 time to change it, and not for nothing. I would 1:18:38.840 --> 1:18:41.880 be curious to see how a woman of color would 1:18:41.880 --> 1:18:43.920 be written to some of these situations, right, because when 1:18:43.920 --> 1:18:45.880 you look at the majority of the movies that you 1:18:45.920 --> 1:18:48.560 guys do, like you said, I know you introduced the 1:18:48.640 --> 1:18:51.599 rose burn situation, but not really so have y'all started 1:18:51.640 --> 1:18:55.920 considering maybe yes, maybe the next thing. Maybe I don't 1:18:55.920 --> 1:18:57.040 know yet, but you're working on. 1:18:56.960 --> 1:19:00.559 Something, Yes, very much. I mean it is a prevalent 1:19:00.600 --> 1:19:02.080 topic of conversation. 1:19:01.640 --> 1:19:02.960 But not on perfect I don't want you to do 1:19:03.000 --> 1:19:05.040 it just because oh my god, everybody's demanding that we 1:19:05.080 --> 1:19:06.040 have a woman and then we have to have a 1:19:06.040 --> 1:19:08.280 woman of color. But just because you see that, hey 1:19:08.280 --> 1:19:10.080 wait a minute, that would be funny to get that 1:19:10.160 --> 1:19:11.760 perspective in this storyline. 1:19:11.960 --> 1:19:16.760 No, and like, yeah, I mean it's something that. Yeah. 1:19:16.760 --> 1:19:19.759 I mean, the more perspectives and the more different people 1:19:19.840 --> 1:19:23.519 you have working on your material, the better it all is. Yeah. 1:19:23.560 --> 1:19:26.680 I mean, we produce the show Black Monday with Don Cheatle. 1:19:26.439 --> 1:19:27.800 And Regina and. 1:19:30.640 --> 1:19:33.200 It's great and the Preacher. Yeah, and we've just seen 1:19:33.240 --> 1:19:35.200 and and it is in Preacher exactly. We've seen it's 1:19:35.320 --> 1:19:38.800 very rewarding and and and and it and people get great. 1:19:39.200 --> 1:19:41.719 You know. It's the more representation the better. I would 1:19:41.720 --> 1:19:43.719 never argue otherwise, but I want to see. 1:19:43.479 --> 1:19:45.080 You like I got I love the Daun Cheat in 1:19:45.120 --> 1:19:46.880 the Regina Hall. But I was like, man, I want 1:19:46.880 --> 1:19:47.840 to see that'd be great. 1:19:48.160 --> 1:19:54.439 I'm in OK So in the hindsight, the like I 1:19:54.479 --> 1:19:58.000 was paying attention to it, but I don't recall I 1:19:58.000 --> 1:20:03.080 remember the email fallouts with Sony. Yeah, with the interview, 1:20:04.040 --> 1:20:05.800 did was it worth it? 1:20:07.000 --> 1:20:13.760 Uh? Yeah? Because it was crazy and like and did 1:20:14.439 --> 1:20:17.480 not to us like other people, I mean talk about sexism. 1:20:17.600 --> 1:20:20.280 Like the only real person to be horribly damaged by 1:20:20.280 --> 1:20:25.240 it was Amy Pascal, her boss, Michael Litton. He wasn't damaged, 1:20:25.760 --> 1:20:29.120 but but she was terribly damaged. Wait, just collect me 1:20:29.120 --> 1:20:29.679 if I'm wrong. 1:20:30.280 --> 1:20:33.640 The the fallout, the fallout of the damn with the 1:20:33.680 --> 1:20:37.280 interview was if you guys released this, we'll hack into 1:20:37.320 --> 1:20:38.080 your emails. 1:20:38.200 --> 1:20:42.040 And then they eventually they had her. They had already 1:20:42.080 --> 1:20:44.880 hacked into Sony and they eventually threatened to like bomb 1:20:44.960 --> 1:20:48.120 movie theaters that played the movie basically, and that's why 1:20:48.160 --> 1:20:53.200 they pulled. Okay, so it was released stream or was 1:20:53.240 --> 1:20:56.160 it Google play? I've seen ITAs. I just forgot where 1:20:56.400 --> 1:20:59.439 Google released it, and then Netflix released it all within 1:20:59.520 --> 1:21:01.880 like Google released Actually the day was supposed to come 1:21:01.880 --> 1:21:07.040 out in theaters and the Netflix released it two weeks later. Okay, 1:21:08.000 --> 1:21:13.240 And again, was it was it worth it? It was? 1:21:13.800 --> 1:21:19.240 I mean, it was like it was a really interesting exercise, 1:21:19.320 --> 1:21:25.200 like I don't the result of which is still fascinating 1:21:25.240 --> 1:21:27.160 and I don't even when you say is it worth it. 1:21:27.200 --> 1:21:29.840 I don't even I'm not even sure anyone knows what 1:21:29.880 --> 1:21:32.719 the fuck actually happened. Like, there was a big article 1:21:32.720 --> 1:21:34.680 in the Hollywood Reporter the other day that was like, 1:21:34.720 --> 1:21:36.479 what really happened in the Sony Hack? Can you read 1:21:36.479 --> 1:21:39.000 the article and you're just like, there's no, I don't 1:21:39.080 --> 1:21:42.479 know what happened. I don't know what happened. People don't. 1:21:42.640 --> 1:21:45.600 They're not sure North Korea did it. They don't. Like no, 1:21:45.920 --> 1:21:50.519 people people think they did. So like, it's hard to 1:21:51.160 --> 1:21:54.559 it's hard to retrospectively gain a lot of insight from 1:21:54.640 --> 1:21:58.120 something where you honestly aren't even sure what the fuck happened, 1:21:58.439 --> 1:22:02.600 like as a movie, honestly, to me, the most the 1:22:02.640 --> 1:22:05.320 biggest bubber is that the movie got pretty shitty reviews 1:22:05.640 --> 1:22:07.799 and that doesn't happen to us that often, and that 1:22:07.800 --> 1:22:10.800 that bummed me out, Like honestly, yeah, it was like 1:22:11.000 --> 1:22:13.680 for us, like pretty bad. And so that to me 1:22:14.080 --> 1:22:15.680 was the thing that if I look back and could 1:22:15.760 --> 1:22:17.840 change something, I'd be like, oh, I wish the second 1:22:17.880 --> 1:22:19.640 act had like a better set piece in it, and 1:22:19.680 --> 1:22:22.879 I wish like we rounded out the third act more emotionally. 1:22:23.000 --> 1:22:25.439 But I but like, because that was the stuff that 1:22:25.520 --> 1:22:27.400 was in my control, you know what I mean, Like 1:22:27.479 --> 1:22:30.000 the actual product, the film was the thing we were 1:22:30.040 --> 1:22:32.920 in control of. And what I'm yeah, what I don't 1:22:32.920 --> 1:22:35.320 love is that it just wasn't received as well as movies. 1:22:36.479 --> 1:22:38.400 It's just hit me, and I know we're gonna wind 1:22:38.439 --> 1:22:42.080 up pretty soon, but uh, it just hit me that 1:22:42.200 --> 1:22:47.720 you're one of the cameos in one of Yauk's last pieces. Yes, 1:22:48.800 --> 1:22:50.240 make some No, I'm about to call it fight for 1:22:50.280 --> 1:22:50.760 You Right too. 1:22:50.840 --> 1:22:53.960 Yeah, make video. 1:22:54.439 --> 1:22:56.439 Yeah, there was an incidented version that was called fight 1:22:56.479 --> 1:22:57.040 for Your Right review. 1:22:57.160 --> 1:22:59.599 So how did that? How was that picture come together? 1:23:00.200 --> 1:23:00.280 Just? 1:23:00.760 --> 1:23:02.800 Oh, man, were you guys aware at the time what 1:23:02.840 --> 1:23:05.360 his condition was? And this was sort of like their 1:23:05.479 --> 1:23:06.080 swan song. 1:23:06.360 --> 1:23:08.760 We kind of got that sense as we were shooting it, 1:23:08.840 --> 1:23:13.479 Like I knew he had been sick, but I there 1:23:13.560 --> 1:23:15.760 was kind of like the public word on this on 1:23:15.840 --> 1:23:17.960 the street was that he was getting better, you know. 1:23:19.360 --> 1:23:21.400 And then he just called me. One day, I got 1:23:21.439 --> 1:23:24.200 a call from Adam Hill Coke call. Yeah, and it 1:23:24.280 --> 1:23:27.519 was just like the greatest fucking phone call you ever got. 1:23:27.520 --> 1:23:31.679 A huge BC Boys fan my whole life, Like I'd 1:23:31.680 --> 1:23:35.120 met him once or twice before at like south By Southwest, 1:23:35.120 --> 1:23:37.360 I think, and yeah, and he was just like, we're 1:23:37.400 --> 1:23:40.040 making a music video and I want you to be 1:23:40.280 --> 1:23:45.920 Mike d And that was fucking great. And then we 1:23:45.960 --> 1:23:48.920 shot that video for three days, which is crazy for 1:23:48.960 --> 1:23:53.120 a music video, and and every famous person ever was 1:23:53.160 --> 1:23:55.240 in and I think it was like halfway through day 1:23:55.320 --> 1:23:57.040 two where I was like, oh, this is like a 1:23:57.280 --> 1:24:00.519 kind of like a big last Tura Swan song. Yeah, 1:24:00.600 --> 1:24:02.880 and and then it got kind of sad and bittersweet 1:24:02.920 --> 1:24:04.960 but was also fun. And like when when I look 1:24:05.080 --> 1:24:10.280 back and think of was like he was just telling 1:24:10.520 --> 1:24:13.080 like it was literally like we were all his like 1:24:13.160 --> 1:24:16.080 g I Joe toys and he was just playing with us, 1:24:16.120 --> 1:24:18.880 and it was like for your birthday, here's all your 1:24:18.880 --> 1:24:22.880 favorite comedians and they'll do whatever the fuck you tell 1:24:22.960 --> 1:24:25.680 them to do for three days straight on this New 1:24:25.760 --> 1:24:28.960 York City backlot and like that's literally like he would 1:24:29.000 --> 1:24:32.160 just be laughing, Daddy, kick the store in except throw 1:24:32.200 --> 1:24:34.439 this bear at him, you guys, dance on the cop 1:24:34.479 --> 1:24:37.120 car and like and he would just be like laughing 1:24:37.200 --> 1:24:39.760 his ass off as we were just like what like 1:24:40.120 --> 1:24:42.920 there was no questions, there was It was never like 1:24:42.960 --> 1:24:45.599 why would I do that? He was just like sure, yeah, whatever, 1:24:45.840 --> 1:24:48.800 whatever the fuck you want, We're it and like we 1:24:49.400 --> 1:24:51.799 and it started to kind of imitate the video itself 1:24:51.840 --> 1:24:53.880 because we were there all the time, Me and Danny 1:24:53.920 --> 1:24:56.280 and Elijah who were the Beastie Boys, and then other 1:24:56.840 --> 1:24:59.400 cameos would come in for like a couple hours and 1:24:59.439 --> 1:25:01.760 we were like this mindset. It was like crazy. We 1:25:01.760 --> 1:25:05.240 were just like so geared to just do whatever we 1:25:05.240 --> 1:25:07.280 were told to do with Eddie, like if they were 1:25:07.320 --> 1:25:10.120 just like body slam Laura Dirt, I was like all right, 1:25:11.320 --> 1:25:14.840 was like no, Like I was just like in this 1:25:14.960 --> 1:25:17.479 like state of like I'll just do whatever the fuck 1:25:17.560 --> 1:25:20.160 this guy tells me. That's what we're here for. And 1:25:20.200 --> 1:25:21.880 you could see people would come in and be like 1:25:21.960 --> 1:25:24.360 this is crazy, Like what are you guys doing in here? 1:25:24.640 --> 1:25:27.040 This is like you you've gone nuts? And that really 1:25:27.120 --> 1:25:29.640 like we were just spraying beer, a fake beer on 1:25:29.680 --> 1:25:33.160 everyone's faces, like throwing like we Yeah, it was it 1:25:33.160 --> 1:25:33.799 was a mad. 1:25:33.800 --> 1:25:36.599 Danny McBride must be like he writes too correct. 1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:39.920 Yeah, he writes eastpounding down and the righteous Gemstone right, 1:25:40.040 --> 1:25:40.799 So yeah. 1:25:41.400 --> 1:25:43.040 He must be like awesome to work. In my mind, 1:25:43.080 --> 1:25:44.680 everybody who was in this is the end in a 1:25:44.720 --> 1:25:46.800 way to do their own writing, but who is like 1:25:46.920 --> 1:25:48.960 awesome to write with? It blows your mind and you 1:25:49.120 --> 1:25:50.840 just like the fuck you come up with that shit? 1:25:51.160 --> 1:25:55.640 They're all great in their own ways. Like yeah, like 1:25:55.760 --> 1:25:58.840 Danny Jonah is truly the one like on set is 1:25:58.880 --> 1:26:02.839 like it's pretty remark to watch, like he's he he's 1:26:02.880 --> 1:26:06.240 like he gets like very locked in and is like 1:26:07.160 --> 1:26:10.439 it's like a pretty miraculous thing. From time to time, 1:26:10.760 --> 1:26:15.479 Danny is very loose and had and biting and like 1:26:15.720 --> 1:26:18.120 he's the comedian that kind of the other comedians are 1:26:18.120 --> 1:26:24.080 a little afraid to improvise with because yeah, because but 1:26:24.120 --> 1:26:26.880 he's very sweet and nice. But it was like I 1:26:26.920 --> 1:26:34.639 saw him once and he don't know, you know, he's 1:26:34.760 --> 1:26:37.680 very sweet, such a nice dude and like not and 1:26:37.760 --> 1:26:39.479 what's it is one of those funny things where like 1:26:39.520 --> 1:26:41.960 he created those characters as a way to make fun 1:26:42.000 --> 1:26:46.040 of the guys he didn't like growing up. Basically that 1:26:46.160 --> 1:26:50.519 is who he is and his biggest fan base is 1:26:50.560 --> 1:26:57.160 probably which is a bummer. Videos. 1:26:57.960 --> 1:27:02.479 How how did Kanye contact you to do Bound? 1:27:03.080 --> 1:27:05.400 Well, hey, you know you did on your just did 1:27:05.400 --> 1:27:09.040 it on our own and then he did really yes, 1:27:09.280 --> 1:27:11.479 and then he did ask so he just released it. 1:27:12.000 --> 1:27:14.280 We released it, he did it, No, we just did it. 1:27:14.360 --> 1:27:18.320 He released his video and literally within an hour of 1:27:18.400 --> 1:27:22.720 seeing it, I was like, we're recreating it, and we 1:27:22.760 --> 1:27:26.400 had ours up like twenty four hours later. Like it was. 1:27:26.800 --> 1:27:29.080 It was I've never seen Kanye's version. 1:27:29.280 --> 1:27:30.759 Oh, that's funny. You just saw ours? 1:27:30.960 --> 1:27:33.840 Fun fat I never seen Kanye. 1:27:35.280 --> 1:27:37.240 Wait, it's okay, I never seen found. 1:27:40.840 --> 1:27:40.880 That. 1:27:43.640 --> 1:27:53.040 Wow, you wait, what's what's that Patino film? Okay, I'm 1:27:53.040 --> 1:27:54.400 reading it. 1:27:54.439 --> 1:27:55.160 What's the film? 1:27:56.920 --> 1:28:00.920 Not Donnie Frosco's way. 1:28:01.360 --> 1:28:02.840 You were the end of his way. 1:28:02.920 --> 1:28:05.800 When you think they're gonna get away with it, He's like, hey, no, 1:28:05.880 --> 1:28:07.000 you go here and. 1:28:07.920 --> 1:28:15.120 You just the Yeah, he came in shy, he stabbed you. No, 1:28:15.479 --> 1:28:15.960 I'm sorry. 1:28:16.040 --> 1:28:18.320 I've seen the college drap out ones, but I haven't 1:28:18.320 --> 1:28:19.040 seen post that. 1:28:19.240 --> 1:28:21.040 No, but he did ask us to come do it 1:28:21.080 --> 1:28:23.839 at his wedding. Wow Franco. 1:28:23.960 --> 1:28:24.919 Yeah, I don't understand. 1:28:24.920 --> 1:28:27.280 He called us and was like, will you come do 1:28:27.400 --> 1:28:30.519 that at my wedding? And did you know it? Well know, 1:28:30.600 --> 1:28:32.040 Like it was one of those things were like throughout 1:28:32.080 --> 1:28:37.080 the conversation, I like you thought willed him to realize 1:28:37.120 --> 1:28:41.519 how uncomfortable it would be, which he slowly did he 1:28:42.680 --> 1:28:45.519 and I was just like, so just and he's just 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:47.880 like he's like, as I say this, I realized how 1:28:48.000 --> 1:28:51.679 fucking uncomfortable. He's like, it would be funny for ten seconds. 1:28:51.720 --> 1:28:53.120 But he's like, I've asked you to fly to her 1:28:53.200 --> 1:28:55.760 side for like literally ten seconds and ship He's like, 1:28:56.160 --> 1:28:56.880 we shouldn't do it. 1:28:56.920 --> 1:29:04.479 But I mean, I mean, you you lived, you lived 1:29:04.479 --> 1:29:09.639 a charm sort of bucket listy life. I want to know, 1:29:10.560 --> 1:29:12.920 did a project ever get away from you that you 1:29:13.040 --> 1:29:13.960 had your eyes. 1:29:13.720 --> 1:29:19.760 On that you wish you I wish we did, like you. 1:29:19.760 --> 1:29:24.120 Had a chance to no write or direct, blah blah blah. 1:29:24.200 --> 1:29:28.639 But there are things like no, I mean, yeah. 1:29:28.120 --> 1:29:31.800 Did Lynn Manuel come up to Hamilton. 1:29:32.920 --> 1:29:37.559 Get away from your kid? No? There are things that 1:29:37.680 --> 1:29:41.559 like that we that came across our desk that then 1:29:41.640 --> 1:29:46.320 became very successful. But I don't think when I look like, oh, like, 1:29:46.560 --> 1:29:48.880 should we have really like spent like two years making 1:29:49.000 --> 1:29:53.920 like you know, like Hobbs and Shaw, Like, I don't know, 1:29:54.120 --> 1:29:57.400 like maybe it would have been fun or like yeah, 1:29:57.400 --> 1:29:59.280 I mean I don't know if it was like outwardly offered, 1:29:59.280 --> 1:30:00.559 but there was a point where it's like, come in, 1:30:00.600 --> 1:30:02.360 you want to meet on the hobs and char movies 1:30:02.400 --> 1:30:04.920 like Deadpool Baby years ago, like a very long time. 1:30:05.840 --> 1:30:09.960 But like I think that it's not it just wasn't 1:30:09.960 --> 1:30:12.479 our thing, you know what I mean, Like we weren't like, uh, 1:30:12.760 --> 1:30:14.920 the idea like plugging in. I think that's what green 1:30:14.960 --> 1:30:17.320 Hornet scared us off of more than anything. Was like 1:30:17.600 --> 1:30:21.200 plugging into this like saying yeah exactly, and plugging into 1:30:21.240 --> 1:30:25.320 like an IP that is like very established, yeah, already established, 1:30:25.360 --> 1:30:27.800 and having to like work within that. So like like 1:30:27.880 --> 1:30:31.200 and working with like a big company is like just scary, 1:30:31.240 --> 1:30:33.320 like working with like a Marvel or you know, like 1:30:33.400 --> 1:30:35.040 and not to say we wouldn't do it, it's just 1:30:35.080 --> 1:30:37.679 it's just scary, you know. And and I think and 1:30:37.720 --> 1:30:39.920 making like a friend yeah, like making like a Hobbs 1:30:39.960 --> 1:30:41.840 and Shot type movie where it's just like this movie's 1:30:41.840 --> 1:30:44.200 gonna get made no matter what. We're just the people 1:30:45.000 --> 1:30:46.960 like you know, serving you the dish. 1:30:47.040 --> 1:30:49.760 Well, the silver lining of green horn is that you 1:30:49.880 --> 1:30:51.719 got your health in check. 1:30:51.640 --> 1:30:57.080 Yes, and it started working out. Yeah I know, well yeah, no, 1:30:57.400 --> 1:31:00.120 it was a lot of good and we learned and 1:31:00.560 --> 1:31:03.640 like so much like we that movie was made in 1:31:03.640 --> 1:31:06.879 a way movies aren't made anymore, Like we built everything. 1:31:06.920 --> 1:31:09.439 It was practical effects, it was visual effects. There was 1:31:09.760 --> 1:31:12.920 there was huge stunt teams. There was like literally the 1:31:12.920 --> 1:31:15.200 stunt team that did Indiana Jones did the movie. Like 1:31:15.360 --> 1:31:19.840 we got to learn from these like amazing people, and 1:31:19.840 --> 1:31:22.439 and Gondry himself was someone who was amazing to learn from. 1:31:22.479 --> 1:31:25.880 And even though the result was debatable, Like I think 1:31:26.240 --> 1:31:30.080 very few experiences made us understand the production process and 1:31:30.120 --> 1:31:33.800 filmmaking in general more than that movie because it was 1:31:33.880 --> 1:31:38.759 as logistically complicated a movie as as exists in the world, 1:31:38.880 --> 1:31:41.559 and we had like a front row seat to every 1:31:41.560 --> 1:31:45.719 step of the process. So that was really interesting. Yeah, wow, 1:31:45.880 --> 1:31:47.240 which that made a better movie? 1:31:49.080 --> 1:31:51.679 Cans Stone a question real quick, because I remember famously 1:31:51.680 --> 1:31:54.240 listening to you on Stern one day and he was 1:31:54.280 --> 1:31:56.519 asking you about working out and working out why you 1:31:56.560 --> 1:31:57.920 were smoking, and you were like, yeah, I take you 1:31:57.920 --> 1:31:58.559 a couple of totes. 1:31:58.760 --> 1:31:59.240 Do you do that? 1:31:59.560 --> 1:32:02.960 Yeah, I've done it in its little weird when I 1:32:03.000 --> 1:32:08.000 do everything. Number One, I want you to give advice 1:32:08.000 --> 1:32:09.840 a young Stoners because I think you have to graduate 1:32:09.920 --> 1:32:11.840 to that level. Yeah, and I wanted to know when 1:32:11.840 --> 1:32:13.800 you got to the point where you knew that you 1:32:13.840 --> 1:32:18.000 could do everything Stone that's that's like next level. 1:32:18.960 --> 1:32:19.800 It takes a while. 1:32:19.880 --> 1:32:22.360 Yeah, tell a baby, that's. 1:32:23.360 --> 1:32:29.240 Baby, Yeah exactly. For I like the thing most people, 1:32:29.760 --> 1:32:32.679 I'm always telling people to smoke a little bit of wheed, 1:32:32.800 --> 1:32:35.080 like to take one hit of wheat. That's what. Like. 1:32:35.160 --> 1:32:37.320 I just I was just with David Chay on his 1:32:37.840 --> 1:32:40.519 Netflix show and like we went around smoked weed all day, 1:32:40.520 --> 1:32:43.360 and I just the whole time was like one little 1:32:43.400 --> 1:32:46.280 tiny hit and that'll get you going for you'll be 1:32:46.439 --> 1:32:48.840 fine and like like or set a timer, take one 1:32:48.920 --> 1:32:50.600 hit and then see you feel in twenty minutes and 1:32:50.640 --> 1:32:53.320 then maybe have another hit. But like most people just 1:32:53.400 --> 1:32:55.840 make way too much weed, and who don't smoke a 1:32:55.840 --> 1:32:58.519 lot of weed, And weat is super strong and one 1:32:58.680 --> 1:33:02.679 hit is enough literally and get any strange. 1:33:02.680 --> 1:33:04.879 I'm also I'm also a reactor. 1:33:05.000 --> 1:33:07.599 Yeah, why do you do you smoke the tea? 1:33:08.040 --> 1:33:12.960 I'm yeah, well I prefer uh was it. I'm like 1:33:13.000 --> 1:33:16.720 so new. I'm literally like seven months into this, so. 1:33:16.240 --> 1:33:17.840 We've been trying for thirty years. 1:33:17.960 --> 1:33:18.200 Yeah. 1:33:18.240 --> 1:33:21.040 But but the thing is when I do it, it 1:33:21.040 --> 1:33:24.439 always hits me at the most inopportune moment, like I'll 1:33:24.479 --> 1:33:25.479 do it all right. 1:33:25.520 --> 1:33:26.160 One time I. 1:33:26.120 --> 1:33:29.559 Did it at night, Yeah, and it felt a little weird, like, 1:33:29.600 --> 1:33:32.400 oh God, let me just sit down and relax. I 1:33:32.439 --> 1:33:35.920 fell asleep right and woke up in the morning. It's like, 1:33:35.920 --> 1:33:39.040 oh damn, I didn't get high. That was a waste. 1:33:39.120 --> 1:33:41.800 And then twenty minutes and then twenty minutes into my 1:33:41.920 --> 1:33:44.240 day right when I got on the drum set of fell. 1:33:44.120 --> 1:33:45.560 And all. 1:33:47.800 --> 1:33:48.839 From the night before. 1:33:49.200 --> 1:33:49.679 That's weird. 1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:51.240 Yeah, that is weird. 1:33:51.400 --> 1:33:55.040 I have well, see I do edibles. 1:33:55.040 --> 1:34:01.760 I don't. I don't smoke, are on, don't do I 1:34:01.800 --> 1:34:05.479 do edibles very sparingly because they're wildly unpredicted. Yeah like that, 1:34:05.600 --> 1:34:11.040 Like they're they're hard to it's hard to get them. Yeah, 1:34:11.040 --> 1:34:12.439 it's hard to get the dose, is right. It's hard 1:34:12.479 --> 1:34:14.880 to time them. Sometimes it depends on what. Sometimes they 1:34:14.880 --> 1:34:16.920 take an hour to kick in, two hours to kick in, 1:34:16.960 --> 1:34:18.400 depends what. It takes five hours. 1:34:19.680 --> 1:34:21.320 The stone is around you. Do you ever see Steve 1:34:21.360 --> 1:34:21.960 eating his weed? 1:34:23.160 --> 1:34:25.000 If you eat your weed, there's none left to smoke. 1:34:30.520 --> 1:34:31.040 Forgive me. 1:34:32.479 --> 1:34:39.360 Again, my my my final question is uh, Oftentimes, like 1:34:39.439 --> 1:34:43.080 right now, I'm watching The Morning Show, which is notably 1:34:43.360 --> 1:34:47.679 everyone I've knew them. I knew them from the funny world, 1:34:47.960 --> 1:34:52.679 the comedy world. But yeah, they're doing drama. Like, would 1:34:52.720 --> 1:34:56.600 you consider because you did Steve Jobs correct the movie? 1:34:57.320 --> 1:34:58.720 No, I did Steve Jobs. 1:35:03.240 --> 1:35:11.080 Technical, would you want to further explore into the world 1:35:11.120 --> 1:35:12.000 of drama? 1:35:12.640 --> 1:35:14.520 Yeah? 1:35:14.520 --> 1:35:18.920 And what role are you? What is your like your 1:35:19.000 --> 1:35:22.200 fantasy thing that you haven't done yet that you really 1:35:22.280 --> 1:35:22.720 want to do. 1:35:22.920 --> 1:35:25.080 We're writing that. I mean, that's what's nice about being 1:35:25.120 --> 1:35:27.519 able to write your own movies, is like, I've no 1:35:27.560 --> 1:35:30.559 one to blame but myself for if if my career 1:35:30.600 --> 1:35:34.559 seems limited in scope as an actor, Like yeah, i mean, 1:35:34.880 --> 1:35:38.240 what uh, the thing we're working on now, I'm obsessed 1:35:38.280 --> 1:35:41.120 with like Buster Keaton and Jackie Chan and so, like, 1:35:41.240 --> 1:35:45.080 I've always wanted to make like a highly physical, like 1:35:45.240 --> 1:35:48.960 action movie, like our action comedy, like something that is 1:35:49.640 --> 1:35:53.519 almost entirely predicated on action and not a lot of 1:35:53.560 --> 1:35:56.759 talking at all. And that has just always been something 1:35:56.800 --> 1:36:00.040 that I always enjoy shooting that type of stuff. And 1:36:00.080 --> 1:36:01.880 so that's something that we want to do, and that's 1:36:01.920 --> 1:36:04.559 what we're working on right now. You're kind of like 1:36:04.560 --> 1:36:05.840 a really violent mister bean. 1:36:11.960 --> 1:36:14.479 All right, well, you know, Seth, we really thank you. 1:36:14.600 --> 1:36:16.360 Damn we didn't even get to your your hip hop. 1:36:16.560 --> 1:36:20.240 It's just that you like hip hop. I love it anyway. 1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:27.120 No, we really want to thank you for coming to you. 1:36:28.560 --> 1:36:31.800 Yes on behalf of Sugar Steve and Unpaid Bill and 1:36:31.880 --> 1:36:37.800 Boss Bill and lie In. This is quest Love. You've 1:36:37.840 --> 1:36:40.120 been listening to Quest Love Supreme. Thank you very much, Seth. 1:36:40.600 --> 1:36:42.920 We will see you on the next go round. 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