WEBVTT - Rachel Wall: New England’s Only 'Lady' Pirate

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<v Speaker 1>Welcome to Criminalia, a production of Shonda Land Audio in

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<v Speaker 1>partnership with I Heart Radio. Welcome to Criminalia, where it's

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<v Speaker 1>pirate season. We'll be exploring the lives and motivations of

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<v Speaker 1>some of the most notorious freebooters throughout history. I'm Maria

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<v Speaker 1>Tremarqui and I'm Holly Fry. And Rachel Wall, who we're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about in this episode, was probably born as Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>Schmidt too devoutedly Presbyterian parents sometime in seventeen sixteen. She

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<v Speaker 1>is unique because she is credited with being New England's

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<v Speaker 1>only quote lady pirate, or, as she's been mentioned in

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<v Speaker 1>some of the research that came up, the dread pirate

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel sort of marvelous. She was born in Carlisle, Pennsylvania,

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<v Speaker 1>and she may also have been the first American born

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<v Speaker 1>woman to become a pirate. But she most certainly was

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<v Speaker 1>the last woman to be hanged in Boston, although the

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<v Speaker 1>specific crime that landed her fate was not actually piracy,

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<v Speaker 1>and that becomes an interesting twist in her story. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>certainly so. We're the lucky when it comes to Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>Wall's life history, or at least parts of her history,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's because before the end of her life, she

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<v Speaker 1>wrote a piece called Life, Last Words and Dying Confession

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<v Speaker 1>of Rachel Wall Right here, we want to emphasize two things. First,

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<v Speaker 1>half of that headline is in all caps. And second,

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<v Speaker 1>keep in mind that this confession was penned shortly before

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<v Speaker 1>her execution. Will reference it throughout, But keep in mind

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's not a journal, it's a document created at

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<v Speaker 1>the end of her life when she knew her fate

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<v Speaker 1>was sealed. Okay, before we get to the end of

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<v Speaker 1>her life, though, let's talk about her younger years. Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>was born into what she described in that document as

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<v Speaker 1>a good family. She called her parents quote good and reputable.

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<v Speaker 1>Her father was a farmer, but we do know that

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<v Speaker 1>he was definitely a man quote of a very serious

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<v Speaker 1>and devout turn of mind, and always made it his

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<v Speaker 1>constant practice to perform family prayers in his house every

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<v Speaker 1>morning and evening, and was very careful to call his

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<v Speaker 1>children and family together every Sabbath day evening to hear

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<v Speaker 1>the holy scriptures and other pious books read to them.

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<v Speaker 1>And according to this written confession, which it's uh laid

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<v Speaker 1>out as though she actually verbally gave it as a

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<v Speaker 1>confession and someone else took it down just for clarity.

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<v Speaker 1>But according to this confession, her parents gave her the

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<v Speaker 1>moral foundation to lead a happy, crime free life. She said, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>they gave me a good education and instructed me in

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<v Speaker 1>the fundamental principles of the Christian religion, and taught me

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<v Speaker 1>the fear of God. And if I had followed the

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<v Speaker 1>good advice, I should never have come to this untimely fate.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel had three brothers and two sisters who were living

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<v Speaker 1>at the time she left home. At least again, according

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<v Speaker 1>to this document, they do not appear to have similarly

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<v Speaker 1>been drawn into a life of crime, but we really

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<v Speaker 1>don't hear about them. After Rachel left Carlisle, her family

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<v Speaker 1>life wasn't enough to make Rachel happy, so she actually

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<v Speaker 1>ended up leaving home at the age of sixteen and

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<v Speaker 1>made her way to where she always said she was

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<v Speaker 1>most comfortable and felt most at home, and that was

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<v Speaker 1>the waterfront. We looked at maps. Depending on the waterfront

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<v Speaker 1>you're talking about around Carlyle, that could be quite a

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<v Speaker 1>walking journey, you know, as many as days. Several sources

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<v Speaker 1>say she went to the waterfront. Whichever one that means,

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<v Speaker 1>we know she went there, and that's where she met

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<v Speaker 1>a man named George Wall, who made his living as

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<v Speaker 1>a fisherman and who also would change the course of

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<v Speaker 1>her life. The pair soon married, and they began traveling

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<v Speaker 1>around the United States together, first of Philadelphia briefly, and

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<v Speaker 1>then a few months in New York City, and eventually

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<v Speaker 1>to Boston, where they settled. And in her confession, Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>does make a point of clearing her parents name of

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<v Speaker 1>any blame by stating that she did all of this

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<v Speaker 1>without their consent. So it was not long after the

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<v Speaker 1>Walls moved to Boston, however, that George left Rachel for

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<v Speaker 1>time at sea. When the newlywed Rachel was questioned about

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<v Speaker 1>her husband's whereabouts, she admitted she had no idea where

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<v Speaker 1>he was. She would say, quote, he went off again

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<v Speaker 1>and left me, and then would continue and where he

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<v Speaker 1>is now I know not. It is actually now thought

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<v Speaker 1>by historians that George was probably a privateer during the

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<v Speaker 1>American Revolution, and that's how and when he observed the

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<v Speaker 1>life of a pirate and decided that that was the

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<v Speaker 1>life for him. To support herself while he was away,

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel turned to one of two possible professions, depending which

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<v Speaker 1>piece of her folklore you hear, so it's possible, yet unlikely,

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<v Speaker 1>that she took a job as a barmaid. It is

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<v Speaker 1>way more likely, especially because she's actually quoted talking about

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<v Speaker 1>it in her confession, that she really took a job

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<v Speaker 1>as domestic help in Boston's wealthy Beacon Hill neighborhood, and

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<v Speaker 1>it was there that she was she said, quote very contented.

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<v Speaker 1>George did eventually returned to his wife, and when he did,

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<v Speaker 1>he began a campaign to get her to join the

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<v Speaker 1>business of piracy with him. During her final confession, Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>was quoted about that, saying, as soon as he came back,

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<v Speaker 1>he enticed me to leave my service and take to

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<v Speaker 1>bad company from which I might date my ruin. So

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<v Speaker 1>at this point we're going to take a break for

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<v Speaker 1>a word from our sponsor, and when we return, we'll

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<v Speaker 1>talk about how Rachel and George began their life of piracy.

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<v Speaker 1>So romantic, welcome back to Criminalia, all right, Coming up,

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<v Speaker 1>we're going to talk about everything from Blackbeard to Rachel's trial.

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<v Speaker 1>As it turns out, some of the most notorious pirates,

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<v Speaker 1>such as black Beard, Samuel Bellamy, and Captain Kidd were

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<v Speaker 1>all known to travel in the waters off of Boston's sure,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's believed that they came north to New England

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<v Speaker 1>to trade their goods with merchants in Connecticut, New York,

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<v Speaker 1>and you guessed it, Boston too. Not the only pirates

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<v Speaker 1>in the area, obviously, and definitely not as famous. Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>and George also sailed off the coast of New England,

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<v Speaker 1>and legend says they stole a ship named the Essex

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<v Speaker 1>to begin this journey together. It said they robbed as

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<v Speaker 1>many as twelve ships and plundered and killed twenty four sailors.

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<v Speaker 1>Their lowres suggests they made as much as six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars doing this, perhaps more, perhaps less. We haven't done

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<v Speaker 1>this in a little bit, so hold on and remember,

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<v Speaker 1>translating dollars to dollars over nearly two hundred fifty years

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<v Speaker 1>is super sketchy. Don't quote these as real numbers, but

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<v Speaker 1>here we go. The purchasing power of that six thousand

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<v Speaker 1>dollars would be maybe about roughly equivalent to a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and thirty thousand dollars in one and the amount they

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<v Speaker 1>took in may have actually been as highest twelve thousand,

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<v Speaker 1>which bear with us again, is somewhere possibly around the

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<v Speaker 1>equivalent in purchasing power to more than two hundred seventy

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<v Speaker 1>thousand dollars today, although there isn't any proof beyond her

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<v Speaker 1>pre execution confession. According to the legends surrounding the Walls,

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<v Speaker 1>they attacked vessels around the aisles of the shoals just

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<v Speaker 1>off the coast of New Hampshire. In her confession, Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>went into pretty good detail about how she and George

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<v Speaker 1>worked as a team. They primarily worked after storms had hit,

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<v Speaker 1>and they made use of the unique situation of having

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<v Speaker 1>a woman on board to lorian victims. Through deception. Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>would stand on the deck or the mast of the

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<v Speaker 1>ship and pretend to be the lady in distress. She

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<v Speaker 1>would scream for help until nearby sailors came to her rescue,

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<v Speaker 1>and that's when George and his crew would plunder their

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<v Speaker 1>ships and murder their crew. In two though, tragedy struck

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<v Speaker 1>when George and most of his crew drowned at sea

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<v Speaker 1>during a storm. Worm Rachel, as well as a number

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<v Speaker 1>of the crew, were rescued from the shipwreck, and it

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<v Speaker 1>is at that point that she gave up piracy and

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<v Speaker 1>returned to Boston. Back in Boston, Rachel turned her work

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<v Speaker 1>from piracy back to domestic help. She did, though, keep

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<v Speaker 1>her hand in the game a bit by committing petty crimes.

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<v Speaker 1>It said she could never shake her love of the

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<v Speaker 1>sea or her love of looting. In fact, she's known

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<v Speaker 1>to have sneaked aboard ships docked in Boston Harbor. She

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<v Speaker 1>described one of these outings on Long Wharf in Boston, saying, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>sometime in the spring of seventy seven, not being able

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<v Speaker 1>to ascertain the exact time, I happened to go on

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<v Speaker 1>board a ship lying at the Long Morph in Boston.

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<v Speaker 1>The captain's name I cannot recollect, but think he was

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<v Speaker 1>a Frenchman. On my entering the cabin, the door of

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<v Speaker 1>which not being fastened, and finding the captain and mate

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<v Speaker 1>asleep in their beds, I hunted about for plunder and

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<v Speaker 1>discovered under the captain's head a black silk hank or

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<v Speaker 1>chief containing upwards of thirty pounds in gold crowns and

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<v Speaker 1>small change, on which I immediately seized the booty and

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<v Speaker 1>decamped therewith as quick as possible. I like that she

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<v Speaker 1>was stealthy enough to steal money from under a man's head.

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<v Speaker 1>Under his head, so I actually found two versions of

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<v Speaker 1>this little story, and they had all the same basic

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<v Speaker 1>information in them, and I think the last like maybe

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<v Speaker 1>one or two sentences were even exactly the same. It

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<v Speaker 1>was missing a few things, like in the spring of

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<v Speaker 1>sevent seven. Um, it was missing lying at the long wharf,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was missing that he was a Frenchman. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was pretty much the same. But I thought that

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<v Speaker 1>this one had some Besides, I liked that she said

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<v Speaker 1>she seized the booty. This was not the truncated version

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<v Speaker 1>of her quote, which I thought was pretty good. It

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<v Speaker 1>was nice to be able to see two versions. Um. So,

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<v Speaker 1>moving on back to her confession, racial states in that

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<v Speaker 1>confession quote in short, the many small crimes I have

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<v Speaker 1>committed are too numerous to mention in is sheet. But

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<v Speaker 1>in addition to the theft we just mentioned, she also

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<v Speaker 1>recounts two other specific crimes, which she said she included

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<v Speaker 1>quote as a solemn warning to the living of my sex,

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<v Speaker 1>at least especially to those whom they were immediately concerned. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>One of those is this account of stealing from yet

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<v Speaker 1>another ship's captain, which goes quote At another time. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was about the year seventy eight, I broke

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<v Speaker 1>into a sloop on board of which I was acquainted.

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<v Speaker 1>Lying at Dones Wharf in this town, and finding the

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<v Speaker 1>captain and every hand on board asleep in the cabin

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<v Speaker 1>and steerage, I looked round to see what I could

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<v Speaker 1>help myself to when I aspied a silver watch hanging

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<v Speaker 1>over the captain's head, which I pocketed. I also took

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<v Speaker 1>a pair of silver buckles out of the captain's shoes.

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<v Speaker 1>I likewise made free with a parcel of small change

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<v Speaker 1>for pocket money to make myself marry among my evil companions,

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<v Speaker 1>and made my escape without being discovered. And here's why

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel's confession should be taken with a grain of salt.

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<v Speaker 1>So in it, she confessed she attempted to break her

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<v Speaker 1>husband out of jail by using what is now pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much one of the oldest tricks in the book. By

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<v Speaker 1>this time, Rachel's confession seems to have been more a

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<v Speaker 1>work of fiction or at least an exaggeration, But we're

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<v Speaker 1>going to talk about it anyway because it's really an

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<v Speaker 1>interesting part of her legend. So here's the problem. Her

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<v Speaker 1>husband George in this story was in jail, but we

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<v Speaker 1>know he died in a shipwreck in Sight two. So

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<v Speaker 1>what's real, and what's not real is a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>blended here. Right. It's also possible just that she has

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<v Speaker 1>a bad grasp of calendar dates. I was just going

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<v Speaker 1>to say that she earlier mentioned in her confession she

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't remember the year of something that happened, and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe that's true. Right, So it may be true, it

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<v Speaker 1>may not be true. We're going to tell it. It's

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<v Speaker 1>part of legend. It's a pretty good one. So this,

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<v Speaker 1>this possibly fictional part of her confession states that Rachel

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<v Speaker 1>had tools to escape baked into a loaf of bread

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<v Speaker 1>and had that bread sent to George. She wrote, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>sometime about the year seventeen eighty five, my husband being

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<v Speaker 1>confined in the jail in this place for these I

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<v Speaker 1>had a mind to try an expedient to extricate him

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<v Speaker 1>from his imprisonment, which was to have a brick loaf

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<v Speaker 1>baked in which I contrived to enclose a number of

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<v Speaker 1>tools such as a saw, file, et cetera, in order

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<v Speaker 1>to assist him to make his escape, which was handed

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<v Speaker 1>to him by the jailer in person, who little suspected

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<v Speaker 1>such a trick was playing with him. However, it liked

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<v Speaker 1>to have had the desired effect the crafty contriver intended

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<v Speaker 1>for by means of this stratagem. The poor culprit Wall

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<v Speaker 1>had busily employed himself with the implements that his kind

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<v Speaker 1>helpmate had in this curious manner conveyed to him, and

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<v Speaker 1>had nearly affected his design before it was discovered. So

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<v Speaker 1>before he could dig his way out, they were onto him.

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<v Speaker 1>The part that I really like about what she put

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<v Speaker 1>in the brick loaf of baked bread was the saw

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<v Speaker 1>just they saw that I imagine is very small because

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<v Speaker 1>it goes in a loaf of bread um, And I

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<v Speaker 1>just think to myself, Wow, I'd take a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel's life changed again on the evening of March eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>seventy nine. According to her confession, she was walking home

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<v Speaker 1>from work and we quote without design to injure any person.

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<v Speaker 1>She was she continued, quote surprised when the crime was

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<v Speaker 1>laid to her charge. And here's what happened. Seventeen year

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<v Speaker 1>old Margaret Bender, who had also been walking on that road,

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<v Speaker 1>accused Rachel of stealing a bonnet, shoes and buckles, and

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<v Speaker 1>possibly a few shillings to violently off her body. There's

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<v Speaker 1>also an odd and highly unlikely version of this story

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<v Speaker 1>that suggests that she and that she is Rachel, tried

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<v Speaker 1>to ripped out Margaret's tongue. That sounds a little like

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<v Speaker 1>the exaggeration of gossip going around, but we don't know

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Yeah, the report of the crime that was

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<v Speaker 1>published in the papers about two weeks later definitely leaned

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<v Speaker 1>toward Margaret's version of the story. That was reported as follows.

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<v Speaker 1>As a woman was walking alone, she was met by

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<v Speaker 1>another woman who seized hold of her and stopped her

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<v Speaker 1>mouth with her handkerchief and tore from her head her

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<v Speaker 1>bonnet and cushion, after which she flung her down, took

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<v Speaker 1>her shoes and buckles, and then fled. She was soon

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<v Speaker 1>after overtaken and committed to jail. Rachel did run from

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<v Speaker 1>the police, but she was quickly arrested and jailed for

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<v Speaker 1>highway robbery, which is robbery that's committed you could guess

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<v Speaker 1>on or near a public road. It was during this

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<v Speaker 1>time that Rachel came clean about her life of piracy

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<v Speaker 1>and all it entailed. But the one thing she always

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<v Speaker 1>maintained was her innocence in regard to that bonnet. Of

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<v Speaker 1>all the acts of piracy, Rachel had been involved with

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<v Speaker 1>her arrest record was actually just for things like petty theft.

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<v Speaker 1>This arrest was for highway robbery, which meant that she

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<v Speaker 1>could be executed if found guilty. She pleaded innocent, and

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<v Speaker 1>we quote as to the crime of robbery, I am

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<v Speaker 1>entirely innocent. To the truth of this declaration, I appealed

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<v Speaker 1>to that God before whom I must shortly appear. She

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<v Speaker 1>was tried by a jury and only men could serve

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<v Speaker 1>on juries at this time before the Supreme Judicial Court

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<v Speaker 1>in Massachusetts in August of seventy nine, and Rachel was

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<v Speaker 1>found guilty. Not to take anything away from Rachel's life,

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<v Speaker 1>we would be remiss if we didn't mention how famous

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<v Speaker 1>those who participated in her trial would become. For example,

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel's life was happening at exactly the same time that

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<v Speaker 1>George Washington, a founding father of the United States, was

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<v Speaker 1>leading troops to victory in the American Revolution. But his

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<v Speaker 1>is not the only name that you will recognize from

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<v Speaker 1>this time period and specifically from Rachel's trial. Right, So,

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<v Speaker 1>the presiding judge was William Cushing, who went on to

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<v Speaker 1>become one of the first U. S Supreme Court justices.

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<v Speaker 1>The prosecutor was a signer of the Declaration of Independence.

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<v Speaker 1>Her court appointed lawyer, Christopher Gore, not only helped ratify

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<v Speaker 1>the Constitution, he also became the first U. S Attorney

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<v Speaker 1>from Massachusetts. During trial, he requested, and we quote, that

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<v Speaker 1>sentence of death might be given against the said Rachel Wall,

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<v Speaker 1>the prisoner at the bar, and her death warrant. And

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<v Speaker 1>this one, I thought was really kind of the most interesting,

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<v Speaker 1>carried what may be considered the most famous signature in

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<v Speaker 1>US history, and that's John Hancock, who was the first

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<v Speaker 1>governor of Massachusetts at the time. I wonder if it

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<v Speaker 1>was massive and overtook the document. I wondered the same thing. Honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I need a page for my last name. We are

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<v Speaker 1>going to take a break here and have a word

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<v Speaker 1>from our sponsor, and when we come back, we're going

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about Rachel's conviction of highway robbery. Again, not

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<v Speaker 1>Pyras sing. Welcome back to Criminal Lea. Let's talk about

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<v Speaker 1>how Rachel requested to be hanged like a pirate. So

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<v Speaker 1>here's one thing about Rachel. She never denied that she

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<v Speaker 1>was a criminal. She never denied that she had been

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<v Speaker 1>arrested for petty theft, for larceny. She did, while technically

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<v Speaker 1>no longer a pirate, loot a few important people that

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<v Speaker 1>included Perez Morton, who was a revolutionary patriot, a friend

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<v Speaker 1>of John Adams, and a man who would become a

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<v Speaker 1>powerful lawyer and future Speaker of the Massachusetts House of Representatives.

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<v Speaker 1>But this accusation of highway robbery stuck, and she pleaded

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty. She always said she didn't do it, so

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<v Speaker 1>if hanging would be her execution, which it was, she

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<v Speaker 1>believed and requested that she be hanged as a pirate.

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<v Speaker 1>She went on to argue that she shouldn't be executed

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<v Speaker 1>or sentenced for this crime of highway robbery. She maintained

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<v Speaker 1>her innocence, saying, quote witnesses who swore against me are

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<v Speaker 1>certainly mistaken, she said, but she continued, as a dying person,

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<v Speaker 1>I freely forgive them. She quote hoped her awful and

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<v Speaker 1>untimely fate will be a solemn warning and caution to everyone,

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<v Speaker 1>but more particularly to the youth, especially those of my

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<v Speaker 1>own sex. There were three hangings on the day that

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel was executed, including William Smith and William Dunigan. All

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<v Speaker 1>three had been convicted and sentenced to death for highway robbery.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel was the final execution of the day and was

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<v Speaker 1>hanged at the Great Elm in Boston Commons. It's reported

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<v Speaker 1>that there were thousands of bystanders on hand for the event,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was reported that quote everyone present was ready

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<v Speaker 1>for the morning's gruesome excitement. When Rachel's time came, she

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<v Speaker 1>jumped out off the edge to her death without help.

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<v Speaker 1>You made me wondering, as Rachel did. Was hanging really

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<v Speaker 1>the punishment for allegedly stealing a bonnet? Yes? Actually, well

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<v Speaker 1>it could be, so we'll do a really quick overview

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<v Speaker 1>of that. The Massachusetts Bay Colony Charter had previously been

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<v Speaker 1>revoked by the King of England, and that meant that

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<v Speaker 1>Massachusetts was totally free to establish its own laws based

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<v Speaker 1>on court judgments and jury opinions. Additionally, by the end

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<v Speaker 1>of the eighteenth century, the ruling class in Massachusetts believed

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<v Speaker 1>there was a massive and unprecedented crime wave just occurring

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<v Speaker 1>around them all the time, and their solution was to

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<v Speaker 1>be swift and merciless. They may have actually been exaggerating

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<v Speaker 1>that crime problem, but their solution just the same was

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<v Speaker 1>capital punishment, and this law could mean hanging for the

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<v Speaker 1>theft of a bonnet. It could also, unfortunately permit the

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<v Speaker 1>execution of any woman with a baby born outside of

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<v Speaker 1>marriage to be hanged, while the man involved was almost

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<v Speaker 1>always exempt from punishment. The time and place is interesting here. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we don't intend to gloss over the importance of the

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<v Speaker 1>American Revolution, of course, but for the context of what

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<v Speaker 1>we're talking about today, that's the setting for Rachel's story

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<v Speaker 1>in Boston. So we're gonna talk just a little nip

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<v Speaker 1>about the Revolution. Battles were fought from Quebec all the

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<v Speaker 1>way down to the Carolina's. Basically everyone along the Eastern

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<v Speaker 1>seaboard was recovering from battle, either through participating or it

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<v Speaker 1>just being part of their world. In Massachusetts, many residents

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<v Speaker 1>have become stressed and distressed about any sort of lawlessness

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<v Speaker 1>or crime. There was a lot going on in Massachusetts

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<v Speaker 1>at the time, and in particular in Boston and the

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<v Speaker 1>surrounding area. The Siege of Boston, which began the American

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<v Speaker 1>Revolutionary War, the Battle of Bunker Hill, the battles of

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<v Speaker 1>Lexington and Conquered you know, these battles and all of

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<v Speaker 1>these had just completely exhausted the population. To contextualize where

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel's story and her execution fit in the larger area.

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<v Speaker 1>By this time, in Massachusetts, juris had hanged a hundred

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<v Speaker 1>and twenty seven women over two hundred years, and that

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<v Speaker 1>included famously women accused of being witches in the Salem

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<v Speaker 1>witch Trials, which happened between six and six Though not

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<v Speaker 1>all of the more than two hundred alleged witches were executed,

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<v Speaker 1>that brief period marks a notable concentration of the total

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<v Speaker 1>number of women who had been put to death for

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<v Speaker 1>crimes in the colony and in the state. The number

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<v Speaker 1>of women hanged in Massachusetts after the witch trials and

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<v Speaker 1>before Rachel Wall came along, dwindled for about a century.

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel was not only the last woman hanged in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 1>she also became a unique outlier, and that she had

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<v Speaker 1>not been accused of being a witch and was one

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<v Speaker 1>of the last that could claim that to be hanged

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<v Speaker 1>there that is true. She died on Thursday October eight,

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<v Speaker 1>sevent eighty nine, when she was twenty nine years old.

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<v Speaker 1>Word of her death was announced through various newspapers. In

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<v Speaker 1>the plight of her life was memorialized as a woodcut

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<v Speaker 1>illustration of her corpse dangling from the gallows while she

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<v Speaker 1>lost her life for theft, at least on paper, we

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<v Speaker 1>wonder if it sort of seems like she was really

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<v Speaker 1>being tried for her life of piracy. Maybe maybe not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's hard to determine the politics at hand and her trial.

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<v Speaker 1>We do know that in her final hours, Rachel went

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<v Speaker 1>to her death asking for mercy on her soul, completing

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<v Speaker 1>her confession with we quote and now into the hands

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<v Speaker 1>of Almighty God, I commit my soul relying on his

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<v Speaker 1>mercy through the merits and mediation of my redeemer, and

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<v Speaker 1>die an unworthy member of the Presbyterian Church in the

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<v Speaker 1>twenty nine year of my age. Alright, so Holly, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna come and meet you in the groggery, and I

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<v Speaker 1>hope the grogory has a lot of nutmeg. Today the

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<v Speaker 1>gregory is actually nutmeg free. I'm sorry to disappoint you.

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<v Speaker 1>You ran out, That's okay, but there is a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of autumnal fun going on. Well that's really what

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<v Speaker 1>I want in thinking about this story and what might

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<v Speaker 1>be a good way to honor Rachel. I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>kind of recognize that she was living in New England

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<v Speaker 1>at a time when ciders and hard ciders were very popular.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also I wanted to do a little extra

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<v Speaker 1>autumnal twist, so because she did die in October, and

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<v Speaker 1>because we're we're at that time of year ourselves, and

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<v Speaker 1>because I always have autumn flavored things in my house

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<v Speaker 1>year round anyway. So this is a cocktail called the

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<v Speaker 1>Hanged Woman, and it is very simple and to my palette,

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<v Speaker 1>dangerously delicious. You're gonna start with a champagne coupe or

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<v Speaker 1>a flute, your preference. I prefer a coupe for this.

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<v Speaker 1>A splash of pumpkin syrup. If you want to measure it,

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<v Speaker 1>I would say about a half an ounce, but I

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<v Speaker 1>just kind of pour in a splash, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>is three ounce of hard cider, and then you top

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<v Speaker 1>it with three ounces of champagne. And you want a

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<v Speaker 1>sweeter champagne. You don't want to really dry one for this.

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<v Speaker 1>This is so stinking delicious. I don't even know what

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<v Speaker 1>to do with myself, and I want to guzzle it,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is not good to me. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>like a perfect little celebration toast drink um. I love

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<v Speaker 1>a champagne cocktail anyway, but this one is shockingly good.

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<v Speaker 1>I am not a hard cider drinker by nature. Cider

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<v Speaker 1>is just not my jam boy. I like it in

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<v Speaker 1>this iteration. Now, the thing that's nice about this is

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<v Speaker 1>that it's really easy to do a one to one

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<v Speaker 1>alcohol free version. So you just do a non alcoholic

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<v Speaker 1>cider and a bit of ginger ale. I would actually

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<v Speaker 1>do like a sugar free or a low sugar ginger

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<v Speaker 1>ale there um, so you don't get too cloying lee sweet,

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<v Speaker 1>and keep the pumpkin syrup because that's that's easy, and

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<v Speaker 1>then like sip away because it's real delicious. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>the non alcoho holly version would be great for like

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<v Speaker 1>a kid's party, even if you wanted to like serve

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<v Speaker 1>them something that felt fancy, you know. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>remember when I was a kid, I always did the

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<v Speaker 1>like pretend cocktails. I think a lot of kids do.

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<v Speaker 1>But you know, ideally you don't want to start your

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<v Speaker 1>children drinking so um. Again, this is one that I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to make in large quantities for parties, but in

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<v Speaker 1>both the mock tail version and the cocktail version, because yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I love the ones that you bring to the show

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<v Speaker 1>that are clearly some of your favorites. You came on

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<v Speaker 1>this morning and you were like, I love this drink,

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<v Speaker 1>so like I knew that it was going to be

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<v Speaker 1>a good one. I do. I love it and it's

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<v Speaker 1>we we have gotten in the habit of talking about

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<v Speaker 1>my husband's reactions to drink, since he is not a drinker.

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<v Speaker 1>He's a good litmus test. Yes, and he quite liked

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<v Speaker 1>this one, So that's a shocking and delightful endorsement as

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<v Speaker 1>a good sign. Did he drink both both versions? No,

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<v Speaker 1>he only he only tried the cocktail version. Excellent, So

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm sure the mocktail version would be equally

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<v Speaker 1>delicious for him because it was equally delicious for me. Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said, I'm gonna make a ton of these

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<v Speaker 1>this fall because it's perfect. So hopefully you find a

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<v Speaker 1>reason to celebrate and raise a glass, whether it is

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<v Speaker 1>champagne and hard cider based or otherwise. We hope that

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<v Speaker 1>this automo is treating you well. I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>everybody for once again spending time with us today, and

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<v Speaker 1>we will meet you right back here with another pirate

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<v Speaker 1>next week. Criminalia is a production of Shonda Land Audio

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