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Speaker 1: Kicking off a new week here on One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: We've got a lot to talk about it. We start

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Speaker 1: at noon. We got rookie first round draft bing Josh

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Speaker 1: Allen coming into twelve thirty. He's working with the threes

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Speaker 1: in practice. Will that change when Mini Camp starts tomorrow?

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Speaker 1: We will ask him today. Also, the Bills premier their

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Speaker 1: Top Ten show, the first of a bunch that are

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Speaker 1: coming up. It's about the top ten trades in Bill's history,

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Speaker 1: a three team blockbuster deal that featured Cornelius Spinnett coming

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo. Biscuit joins us at one Speaking of trades,

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Speaker 1: what's your favorite trade in franchise history? You can tweet

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Speaker 1: it in you can give us a call. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about it on the show. One Bill's Live starts right now.

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Speaker 1: Oh a good time of USTe Tasper to the end,

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Speaker 1: tex down textown text text time. I think he wants

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Speaker 1: us to go now. We are on the airs, Chumps,

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Speaker 1: Steve Task, You're coming in from Orchard Park. It is

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Speaker 1: a beautiful day in Orchard Park, New York. It is

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Speaker 1: unbelievable weather here today. New Air of Field is right

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Speaker 1: next door step and I in the front end of

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Speaker 1: the ad Pro Sports Training Center in our one Buffalo studio.

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Speaker 1: Let me get the temperature for you, Steve Outdoors, be

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Speaker 1: sure most other companies can hit the ground running. On Monday,

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Speaker 1: we had a little trouble. We do strike away of

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Speaker 1: trouble on right out of the gate. We're fumbling and

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Speaker 1: stumbling around and get in here and said, Dad, can't

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Speaker 1: hear anybody. Our earpieces aren't working. We're I think we're else.

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Speaker 1: I think we're good though. Seventy three degrees sunny outside.

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Speaker 1: We were outside shooting the code open that you just

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Speaker 1: saw and heard. And I said to you, Steve, it's gold.

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Speaker 1: It is unbelievable. Weather perfect. I mean, so if you're

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Speaker 1: from Florida, Mississippi, or Alabama or Louisiana and you're used

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Speaker 1: to warmer temperatures, what do you think when you get

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Speaker 1: a day like this in Buffalo. Because we got a

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Speaker 1: lot of guys here who fit that that criterion, you know,

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Speaker 1: do they think, oh, it's chili, I'm gonna have to

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Speaker 1: put a sweater on in Buffalo today? For us, it's

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Speaker 1: like this is perfect, right, this is the perfect is

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Speaker 1: this is talking about San Diego weather right. Seven golfing

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Speaker 1: the sky, get out in it. It's it's amazing. Sorry

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Speaker 1: to get off on that good weekend, Murph. Did I

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Speaker 1: have a good weekend? Yes? Yes, I did a lot

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Speaker 1: of family time on Saturday. I told you about my

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Speaker 1: nephew Nick, he used to be on the show of

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Speaker 1: this last year or two years ago, had this amazing

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Speaker 1: fundraiser Fiesta Bowl eighteen, where he raised thousands of dollars

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Speaker 1: for a couple of charities with three on three basketball.

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Speaker 1: This is your nephew. That's like you just eight years old. No,

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Speaker 1: he's eighteen. Yeah, he's a little he's a kid. He

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Speaker 1: had this fundraiser. Yeah, he put it all together, works

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Speaker 1: on it all year and had an amazing party and

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Speaker 1: a fundraiser in the front of his home in Amhurst.

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Speaker 1: And I of course had to do the play by

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Speaker 1: And uh, it's just crazy. But I didn't even know

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Speaker 1: how to describe it. It's like a block party three

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Speaker 1: School too. But it was cool. So I did that Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday the weather was a little disappointing. Didn't you think

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Speaker 1: yesterday it was warm enough, it was nice. It wasn't sunny.

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Speaker 1: It's rain No, it was not sunny. Oh did you

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Speaker 1: did the rain where you were at? Yeah? Like I

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Speaker 1: got zero rains? What I live like a fifth of

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Speaker 1: got nothing. It was gold It was perfect. Yeah, but

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Speaker 1: uh yeah, that was basically my weekend. What about you?

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Speaker 1: You know, I did the music fest thing was on,

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Speaker 1: huge crowds, huge, I guess. There was huge crowds at

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Speaker 1: and the same kind of they didn't well, they didn't

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Speaker 1: They had a lot of outdoor venues going on where

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Speaker 1: it's quite the party over there. That was fun. That

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Speaker 1: that had Joe Baby, Joe Macy. I ran into said

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Speaker 1: You're pretty much mister easter Roa, aren't you. I'm kind

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Speaker 1: of part of the furniture though, What do you mean

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Speaker 1: people ignore? Yeah, I'm just one of the They know me.

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Speaker 1: Everybody knows me, and we had we raised all five

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Speaker 1: parents and even the kids. You know. I was bumping

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Speaker 1: into them, you know. So you are mister Easter Rodo.

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Speaker 1: If you ran for bigger mister row, it would not

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Speaker 1: be a contest, right you would win. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what politic Yeah they might, yeah, exactly.

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Speaker 1: They know my limitations. So I should have gone. I

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Speaker 1: thought about going, but we were at that other party.

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Speaker 1: A couple of people here in the building were over there. Yeah. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it was fun, including uh Kevin Krgiss who worked with us,

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Speaker 1: one of the young crew here. Yeah, that's you said.

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Speaker 1: That was the largest collection of inebriated adult he come

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Speaker 1: Gain't got a bills game or you know, Darien Lake

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Speaker 1: concert or something or rock concert of any kind. And

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Speaker 1: because it's a perfect night. I mean Jay Harris brother. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Jay brought his wife and two lovely kids and it

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Speaker 1: was just fantastic night, perfect weather. Yep. Yeah, So I

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Speaker 1: had your weekends. We're here for I'm here for the week.

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Speaker 1: Steve's got a couple of days, and then you're off

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Speaker 1: on vacation for a little bit, right, a little bit yep.

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Speaker 1: And then of course we're moving into vacation period here

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Speaker 1: the bills for their mind, they've got no practice today.

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Speaker 1: Although there's a ton of players here. They've got three

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Speaker 1: workouts coming up this week, the mandatory minicamp two say Wednesday, Thirsty,

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Speaker 1: stuff going on. Josh Allen's coming in at twelve thirty.

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Speaker 1: He may not make it. They got him signed in helmets,

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Speaker 1: They got him saying what hundreds would you say, helmets?

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Speaker 1: There's like three hundred items autograph, right, I mean he's

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Speaker 1: You've ever been to ad Pro Sports, They got all

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Speaker 1: the stuff that they want Josh Allen autograph and it's

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Speaker 1: all for people in this building, right, And they say, listen,

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Speaker 1: everybody wants to shot Josh Allen's autograph. You can and

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Speaker 1: everybody you've probably seen on Twitter how he gets stopped

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Speaker 1: for wedding photos and stuff, and you know when he's

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Speaker 1: kind of So he's kind of learning how to be

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Speaker 1: you can you get me Josh Allen's autograph? Can you

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Speaker 1: So some of the guys are doing that today, and uh,

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Speaker 1: great people because yeah, I don't because everybody's gotta and

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Speaker 1: is there somebody behind me? You gonna make a face?

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Speaker 1: I'm just a guy. I was just taking a picture

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Speaker 1: I get it, I get it. But no, I have

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Speaker 1: so it's part of it. It's one of the good

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Speaker 1: you know, I'd rather take a selfie on a real

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Speaker 1: least they'll show one other person the picture before they

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Speaker 1: mean because I've signed a lot of scraps of paper

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Speaker 1: all of it. I believe it's just in a tempt

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Speaker 1: at interaction years ago. I just want to say hi.

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Speaker 1: People want to say hi. I want to want to

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Speaker 1: like you. And back in the old days, the autograph

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Speaker 1: was a way to do it. Now, you're right right self,

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Speaker 1: And that's the thing too. The story that they're gonna

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Speaker 1: not that they got the pick, that's just proof that

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Speaker 1: they did it. But now with the selfie's the same thing.

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Speaker 1: They tell you about the conversation they had with you,

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Speaker 1: They tell her friends about the conversation about the head

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Speaker 1: not so much with Indianapolis and he's bounced around the

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Speaker 1: league a little bit since then. Calvin Shephard has um.

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Speaker 1: That is probably my favorite. It's pretty recent, the Kiko

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Speaker 1: trade for you know, Keiko for Um for Shaney McCoy's

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Speaker 1: what I'm trying to say. Yeah, that's one of my favorites.

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Speaker 1: Two Again, the Bills gave up at the time would

429
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Speaker 1: appear to be a pretty important player in Keikolanso, but

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Speaker 1: got a much more, a much bigger contributor in Shady McCoy.

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Speaker 1: That's a big one. You cannot ignore a trade that

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Speaker 1: really went for a draft pick either, and that is

433
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Speaker 1: the trade that brought essentially brought Jim Kelly here. Tom

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Speaker 1: Kuzano traded away for a draft pick. That draft pick

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Speaker 1: goes to the Cleveland for a draft pick. That draft

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Speaker 1: pick becomes Jim Kelly fourteenth overall in the nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: three draft. That's a big one too. You might have one.

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Speaker 1: You might have a favorite. Give us a call eight

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Speaker 1: oh three five fifty toll free one eight eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty, or do it on Twitter

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Speaker 1: at one Bill's Live. Not the best trade in Bill's

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Speaker 1: history necessarily, but favorite favorite trade enfranchise history. Love to

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Speaker 1: talk you about that. Yeah, that Kelly trade for Tom

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Speaker 1: Kuzner you remember. For those of you are of a

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Speaker 1: vintage that remember this. Tom Kuzno was a lineback route

446
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Speaker 1: of Ohio State and the Bills drafted him. He did

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Speaker 1: not want to play in Buffalo and went to Canada

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Speaker 1: and played for a couple of years. So the Bills

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Speaker 1: traded what essentially was the rights to Kuzno to Cleveland

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Speaker 1: for the fourteenth overall pick. The fourteenth overall pick ended

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Speaker 1: up being Jim Kelly. Kuzno did want to play in Cleveland,

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Speaker 1: So we went back, played in Cleveland for a few years.

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Speaker 1: Actually probably played against us in a playoff game. I

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Speaker 1: don't know about that. What was he on the eighty

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Speaker 1: nineteen I don't know. I don't know. Maybe not, I

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Speaker 1: don't think. But nevertheless, a guy who wasn't even gonna

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Speaker 1: play for this team got traded for a guy who

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Speaker 1: changed the course of the franchise over the over the

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Speaker 1: course of eleven year career and still is a major

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Speaker 1: part of the heritage of most Bills fans claim. So, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that was a trade, that was That's a that's got

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Speaker 1: to be a favorite for a lot of people. Kuzino

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Speaker 1: eighty two to eighty five with the Cleveland Browns and

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Speaker 1: then a couple of years with San Francisco eighty six

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Speaker 1: and eighty seven. Oh as before that, Yeah, that was

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Speaker 1: I keep forgetting. Cousino lasted six years in the NFL.

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Speaker 1: He made one Pro Bowl, I believe, first overall pick

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Speaker 1: in nineteen seventy nine draft out of Lakewood, Ohio, just

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Speaker 1: down the road a little bit. He's sixty one years old. Now,

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Speaker 1: good for him. Yeah, but that's a big trade to

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Speaker 1: get Jim Kelly here. Now at the time, you're not

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Speaker 1: trading Kuzano for Kelly. You're trading Kuzano for a draft pick.

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Speaker 1: But nonetheless a very big and very significant trade in

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Speaker 1: nineteen eighty two when it was made, give us a call,

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Speaker 1: let us know what you think. Eight oh three f

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Speaker 1: fifty twent three one eight eight by fifty two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: Tiffany Daniels is replying to us on through Twitter. The

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Speaker 1: most exciting trade was how the Bills acquired the Biscuit.

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Speaker 1: The trade that changed the fate of the franchise was

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Speaker 1: the pick they used to draft the great Jim Kelly.

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Speaker 1: Hands down. Without Jim, there would have been there would

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Speaker 1: not have been four Super Bowl appearances. Then that there's

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Speaker 1: a good way to look at I mean, the most

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Speaker 1: exciting trade was the Biscuit trade because three teams, big

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Speaker 1: blockbuster deal. But quietly, you know, before that ever happened,

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Speaker 1: was a trade for a draft pick. And let's see,

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Speaker 1: we'll see. Then you have to wait for him to

488
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Speaker 1: draft this guy, and then it turns out to be Jim.

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Speaker 1: Jim goes plays in Houston for a while, finally comes up.

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Speaker 1: It took a long time for that trade to bear fruit.

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Speaker 1: With a Kuzino trade, for the Kelly pick. The Biscuit

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Speaker 1: trade was more exciting. There were three teams. It was

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Speaker 1: during that strike, yere we all came back to play

494
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Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, it was it was mid season.

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Speaker 1: I mean it was like a light switch. Yeah, it

496
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Speaker 1: was like bam, he's here, and there he is. Look

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Speaker 1: at him and he was playing great from the first

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Speaker 1: listen from the first snap, from the first time he

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Speaker 1: hit the field. He was in the middle of it.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome, awesome. A couple of lot in the

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Speaker 1: tweet sheet from Twitter people responding your favorite trade in

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Speaker 1: Bill's history, Darryl f twenty nine. You have some great

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Speaker 1: recent ones, he says, Calvin Shephard for Jerry Hughes, Keiko

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Speaker 1: for Shady, but the obvious number one all time has

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Speaker 1: to be treating Tom Kuzino for the first round pick

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Speaker 1: Hugheses select Kelly. There's really no further explanation needed. I

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Speaker 1: agree with that. Ryan Cox tweets and Jerry Hughes he

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Speaker 1: likes that trade, he says Shepherd. Calvin Shephard was not

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Speaker 1: going to make the team. You flipped him for a

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Speaker 1: guy who averaged around ten tackles a season since coming

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Speaker 1: to Buffalo sacks of seasons, ten sacks of season since

512
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Speaker 1: coming to Buffalo. He has his faults, but he's still

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Speaker 1: been productive. And finally there's one for Mini camp Jack two. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: hardest the best Bennett deal because of what he meant

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Speaker 1: to the Bill super Bowl teams. But I was five

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Speaker 1: when it happened, So I'm voting for the McCoy trade

517
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Speaker 1: and still not sure what Chip Kelly was thinking. Shady

518
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Speaker 1: is a stud plus one of the best running backs

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Speaker 1: of the decade. He is the best current Bill That's

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Speaker 1: the truth too. Shady is elite and he was elite

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Speaker 1: when the Bills got him. He had been elite for

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Speaker 1: a handful of years before that. And to trade him

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Speaker 1: for Kiko Alonso, Wow, that's a that makes Chip Kelly steel.

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Speaker 1: It's a steel, It's an absolute steel. It's still a steal.

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Speaker 1: And he's still gonna He's gonna be good this year. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: really good. He's the best player on their team. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you look around at the guys who that guy's a

528
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Speaker 1: home run every time he touches the ball. And we

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Speaker 1: got him for a second year, third year linebacker who

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Speaker 1: is coming off a knee injury. Here was a call

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Speaker 1: from Dan in Yorkshire, New York. Go ahead, Dan, you're

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Speaker 1: on the air. Ah. Yeah, I'm an old guy, so

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Speaker 1: I'm going way back and probably in the sixties, but

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Speaker 1: I remember being a kid. In the off season, they

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Speaker 1: traded and got Tom Florries, Art Powell and Keith Lincoln.

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Speaker 1: You know, I just can't remember who we traded to

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Speaker 1: get them guys. But at the time, Lincoln was probably

538
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Speaker 1: the best running back in the AFL, Powler was one

539
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Speaker 1: of the top receivers in the a FL, and Florres

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Speaker 1: is one of the top quarterbacks. I thought we were

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Speaker 1: gonna win forever. Turned out, Florries, I believe had double vision,

542
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Speaker 1: Paul didn't want to play here, and Keith Lincoln's career

543
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Speaker 1: was over. But it impacted the Bills that they didn't

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Speaker 1: win again. They went in one of them long streaks

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Speaker 1: where they just don't win. And I think that trade

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Speaker 1: in a negative way probably hurt the franchise more than anything.

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Speaker 1: You know what, I gotta say, raided for him. You

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Speaker 1: know what, Dan, I think you got two your you

549
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Speaker 1: got two different trades mixed up here. They traded Darryl

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Speaker 1: Lamonica to the Raiders. The Bills did this in nineteen

551
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Speaker 1: sixty seven, Darryl L. Monkan, I believe Glenn Bass and

552
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Speaker 1: got Tom Flores in our Powell. The Lincoln trade I

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Speaker 1: think was separate, wasn't it, And yeah, I believe that's

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Speaker 1: how it went down when it happened, so to me,

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Speaker 1: it was right. But it was three of the top

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Speaker 1: three top players in the AFL at the time. It

557
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Speaker 1: looked like we were going to be great forever. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I wrote about that, Stephen. I had to do a

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Speaker 1: thing up on the on the website about answering questions

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Speaker 1: about some of the trades, and I point out, I

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Speaker 1: think I'm kind of with you on this, Dan. I

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Speaker 1: looked at that as a trade that did not go

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Speaker 1: buffalose way, the trade that shipped off Darryl la Monica

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Speaker 1: and brought Tom Floory's here. But it's it's an interesting

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Speaker 1: it's an interesting Uh. Yeah, I think that's to look

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Speaker 1: back there. I think you can look back there. You

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Speaker 1: still get a lot of people who remember those stuff

568
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Speaker 1: and because we you know, like when you're when that

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Speaker 1: stuff happens your team and you're not even ten years

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Speaker 1: old yet or twelve years old, you're you're a young kid.

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Speaker 1: Those are the ones you remember, because those are the

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Speaker 1: ones that you you're not really sure why or how

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Speaker 1: it happens, but man, you want to see the guy

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Speaker 1: play and it's I didn't I didn't even understand what

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Speaker 1: trades were when it happened exactly. I mean, that's why

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Speaker 1: it's so cool you're getting this new player. We're an

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Speaker 1: AFL fan. You knew those three guys, right, and they

578
00:27:02,480 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: were coming to Buffalo and it was like, wow, this

579
00:27:05,240 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: is fantastic and it just didn't work. And that's the

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Speaker 1: part that stinks about trades. It's likes to talk about

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Speaker 1: it's the curse of the bills. It's something in the water.

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Speaker 1: I doubt that, but that that's good. Thanks for the call, dad,

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Speaker 1: Thank you. Yeah, I think you're right. You get to

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Speaker 1: that point when you know, when you're a kid and

585
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 1: you think, well, what do you mean they're not on

586
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Speaker 1: our team anymore. You know, you're still you don't even

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00:27:27,560 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 1: know that there's trades possible, and then you find out

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Speaker 1: it happens and your team trades a guy you liked

589
00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:33,840
Speaker 1: or didn't like or whatever, and he comes over and

590
00:27:33,840 --> 00:27:35,439
Speaker 1: you're like, what's that mean. You're trying to get your

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Speaker 1: mind around it, because there's a point in all of

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Speaker 1: our fanship when you're particularly if you're like a kid

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Speaker 1: who lives here in Buffalo, when you grow up and

594
00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 1: everybody's a Bills fan and you start finding this stuff happens,

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Speaker 1: and they do it to one of the guys you

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Speaker 1: really like, or you get a guy from another team

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Speaker 1: who you've always either disliked or really liked or whatever,

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Speaker 1: and you remember the feeling that you get when your

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Speaker 1: teams can have a new player. It's like you feel

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Speaker 1: I always feel like you grow up, it's like whoa

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Speaker 1: that can happen? Yeah, exactly, Like I said, you lose

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Speaker 1: that little innocence a little bit about your being a fan,

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Speaker 1: and you've learned that what do you mean? It's a

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Speaker 1: what's the business have to do with it? You know?

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Speaker 1: It's it's pretty fun. Yeah that's what. And then you

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Speaker 1: get a call from a guy like Dan forty years

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Speaker 1: later he's still talking about Yeah, pretty amazing that it's

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Speaker 1: pretty cool. You want to hear from you. What's your

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Speaker 1: favorite Bills trade in history? Give us a call or

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Speaker 1: tweeted in the numbers to call eight oh three five

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Speaker 1: fifty toll free one eight eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty or tweeting in at One Bill's Live. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna talk with a guy who the Bills had to

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Speaker 1: make a couple of trades to move up in the

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Speaker 1: draft to get him. Maybe he becomes one involved in

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Speaker 1: one of your favorite trades. It is rookie quarterback Josh Allen.

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Speaker 1: Stand anybody to join us live here in the studio.

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Speaker 1: That's coming up next, John Murphy's Deep Tasker just getting

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Speaker 1: started with One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. And

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Speaker 1: this is Buffalo Bills Radio. Welcome back to the show

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Speaker 1: and One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive. John Murphy,

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Speaker 1: Steve Tasker. Very happy to have on our set for

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Speaker 1: the first time. Bill's Ricky quarterback Josh Allen. Josh, we

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Speaker 1: head you on the phone today after you were drafted.

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Speaker 1: But it's great to have you here in person. Thank

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Speaker 1: you for doing having me. Can we talk about what

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Speaker 1: you just finished up doing? You spend an hour autographing

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Speaker 1: various items, right, Yeah, that's what we did. How's your

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Speaker 1: right hand? It's all right, it's ready to go tomorrow.

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Speaker 1: I'll tell you. Yeah, you need that. Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 1: Carpal's trump tunnel syndrome as a good meaning workman's comp Maybe. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: took like a couple hundred items and stuff. And it's

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Speaker 1: nice they make it easy for you because now you

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Speaker 1: know how it is you. Everybody in the building, at

635
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: some point it's gonna have a cousin that needs your autograph,

636
00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: So knock it up right now. How's it been going.

637
00:29:43,200 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: You've been getting reps and everybody. Do you hear all

638
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 1: the media? I mean, do you guys listen to what

639
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 1: everybody says about it and hear the press? I mean,

640
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:50,280
Speaker 1: you do your press conference and you hear what everybody

641
00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,120
Speaker 1: else says? Or do you read anything? Or no, I

642
00:29:52,160 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: don't read anything. Obviously, I get the questions that are

643
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: asked to me, right um, and I'll leave reading articles

644
00:29:57,280 --> 00:29:59,120
Speaker 1: to my family and my friends and all of them.

645
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:03,160
Speaker 1: Are you liking the quarter back room talking about day ball?

646
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:06,480
Speaker 1: And yeah? First of all, Dabele is full of energy.

647
00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:10,239
Speaker 1: He's a very enthusiastic guy, knows his stuff. Um, when

648
00:30:10,280 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: we're sitting down there and we're watching what we're watching,

649
00:30:13,120 --> 00:30:17,160
Speaker 1: it's very very good stuff. It's gonna correlate to everything

650
00:30:17,200 --> 00:30:19,080
Speaker 1: that we do this season. Um. And then you go

651
00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:20,920
Speaker 1: down the line with coach Cole. He's been in the

652
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:23,320
Speaker 1: league for a long time and he has these little

653
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,680
Speaker 1: tricks of the trade if you will. Um, you know,

654
00:30:26,880 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 1: and AJ and Nate have been fantastic. Uh. You know,

655
00:30:31,040 --> 00:30:34,280
Speaker 1: can't find a better guy than either of them. But

656
00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 1: you know, Aj has been helping me out a lot also,

657
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:39,280
Speaker 1: just he sees some things that, um, that I'm doing,

658
00:30:39,360 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 1: He'll tell me to correct him or say something about

659
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: my stance or where I'm looking. Because he's been in

660
00:30:44,200 --> 00:30:46,720
Speaker 1: the league for a while. So to have that experience

661
00:30:46,760 --> 00:30:49,239
Speaker 1: and that knowledge and to sit behind and learn from

662
00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:52,800
Speaker 1: him and Nate, UM, it's been pretty cool. Joshua back

663
00:30:52,840 --> 00:30:55,240
Speaker 1: to coach Dable for a second. It's apparent in the

664
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,920
Speaker 1: limited practice work that we see that he is right

665
00:30:58,200 --> 00:31:00,400
Speaker 1: not just you, but in all the quarterbacks face. You

666
00:31:00,480 --> 00:31:02,479
Speaker 1: can almost reach out and touch him on every play. Right,

667
00:31:02,520 --> 00:31:04,280
Speaker 1: he's right there. He's gonna looks like he's gonna be

668
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,640
Speaker 1: with you all the time when you're out there getting

669
00:31:06,880 --> 00:31:09,320
Speaker 1: either getting your reps or not getting reps. Absolutely, he's

670
00:31:09,360 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 1: he's very outspoken. He does get fiery sometimes, but you know,

671
00:31:14,480 --> 00:31:17,480
Speaker 1: he's very attentive to details and he wants to push

672
00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:20,640
Speaker 1: that along to us and to our players into our teammates,

673
00:31:20,680 --> 00:31:22,480
Speaker 1: and that's what he's kind of been doing this past

674
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: few weeks, just making sure that he's in our ear.

675
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,840
Speaker 1: He's making sure we're doing the right things, making the

676
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,920
Speaker 1: right checks, and then watching the and when we're watching film,

677
00:31:31,000 --> 00:31:33,400
Speaker 1: he's making sure we're watching the right things and just

678
00:31:33,520 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 1: trying to process it through our minds and so when

679
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:38,360
Speaker 1: we do go out in the field, we can you know,

680
00:31:38,520 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: transition and put it onto Is it a complicated offense?

681
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:44,479
Speaker 1: Would you describe it as complex? I wouldn't say it's

682
00:31:44,560 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: very complex. I wouldn't say it's complicated. Different verbiage than

683
00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: what I'm used to, But I mean, you know, it's

684
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: the NFL. You know, it's a copycat league. We're gonna

685
00:31:54,520 --> 00:31:57,760
Speaker 1: run what other people have had success in the past

686
00:31:57,760 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 1: few years. And obviously we're gonna see a lot of

687
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:02,200
Speaker 1: different defenses this year. But you know, it's really about

688
00:32:02,240 --> 00:32:04,680
Speaker 1: doing what we can do with what we've got. You know,

689
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:07,120
Speaker 1: we got a lot of talented players on the outside

690
00:32:07,160 --> 00:32:09,560
Speaker 1: and the running in our running back with Sean McCoy,

691
00:32:09,600 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 1: and we got a really good solid group there too,

692
00:32:11,440 --> 00:32:13,360
Speaker 1: So it's gonna be fun to get us get the

693
00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,080
Speaker 1: ball to those guys and let them make some place.

694
00:32:15,600 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 1: You talk to Aj and of course Nate. You guys

695
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:18,800
Speaker 1: spent a lot of time to go to head. They

696
00:32:18,880 --> 00:32:21,400
Speaker 1: talk to you about the difference between day ball's coaching

697
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,080
Speaker 1: stuff because he's you know, you're getting coached hard. As

698
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,160
Speaker 1: are they used to that too, or what do they

699
00:32:26,200 --> 00:32:28,080
Speaker 1: say about day ball? I mean, they must enjoy it

700
00:32:28,120 --> 00:32:29,640
Speaker 1: as much as you do. I mean they want to

701
00:32:29,640 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 1: be coached, absolutely, they love them. Um. And I think

702
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,760
Speaker 1: if you go out through the entire offense of it

703
00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:37,320
Speaker 1: as a whole, I think that the field that we

704
00:32:37,480 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: have this year is different from what it's been in

705
00:32:39,840 --> 00:32:42,120
Speaker 1: the past few years. And you know, Davel just brings

706
00:32:42,160 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: a different dynamic to this offense. Um. He's very open.

707
00:32:45,240 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 1: He's very much into what we feel on the field.

708
00:32:48,880 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 1: He understands he's not gonna make us reprimand us for

709
00:32:52,080 --> 00:32:53,680
Speaker 1: a decision that we made when we're moving, you know,

710
00:32:53,760 --> 00:32:56,520
Speaker 1: one thousand miles a minute, So he understands that that

711
00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,440
Speaker 1: aspect of the game. And he's very you know, go

712
00:32:59,520 --> 00:33:01,640
Speaker 1: at the flow as far as guys trying to get

713
00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:05,000
Speaker 1: open and working different routes and things like that. Josh,

714
00:33:05,320 --> 00:33:07,680
Speaker 1: the other two quarterbacks on the roster. We're here a

715
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:09,920
Speaker 1: couple of weeks before you were drafted. How much of

716
00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: a head start do they have on this offense knowing

717
00:33:12,600 --> 00:33:15,080
Speaker 1: what's going on, and does that account for maybe the

718
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:18,520
Speaker 1: fact that they get first second team reps um? I mean,

719
00:33:18,600 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 1: they've they've been here for a while, obviously they've Nate's

720
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:23,840
Speaker 1: been here for a full year and aj just got here.

721
00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:26,360
Speaker 1: But they've had a little jump start, right with Dablem.

722
00:33:26,560 --> 00:33:28,200
Speaker 1: You know, it hasn't been too much of a jump

723
00:33:28,240 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 1: start though. I've kind of caught up in the system,

724
00:33:31,680 --> 00:33:33,360
Speaker 1: but obviously they know a little more than I do

725
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,640
Speaker 1: at this time and moment, So I'm just trying to

726
00:33:35,680 --> 00:33:38,000
Speaker 1: catch up, trying to learn from from both those guys

727
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,480
Speaker 1: in front of me, and just trying to operate this

728
00:33:40,640 --> 00:33:43,080
Speaker 1: offense at a high level. Steve Tasker and John Murphy

729
00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: on One Bills Live, We're talking to Josh Allen and

730
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: you took your kind of a day off today. You're

731
00:33:47,160 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 1: kind of getting some house cleaning. They got the medical

732
00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 1: people are in doing tests and you've got you guys

733
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 1: signing an autographs. How's the pace been and the tempo been?

734
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:57,600
Speaker 1: Because a lot has been said that because of the

735
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 1: collective barring room. But they don't let you guys pads.

736
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:02,720
Speaker 1: They don't, you know, there's so much right now. It's

737
00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:05,400
Speaker 1: all kind of an academic exercise, although you guys are

738
00:34:05,440 --> 00:34:08,319
Speaker 1: in shorts and helmets, so telling has the pace been

739
00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:10,080
Speaker 1: okay as it helped her, as it hurt or would

740
00:34:10,080 --> 00:34:12,680
Speaker 1: you like to you know, the guys complain about not

741
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,360
Speaker 1: being able to the pace is great us. It allows

742
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:17,640
Speaker 1: our vets to get kind of back into football shape,

743
00:34:17,760 --> 00:34:20,040
Speaker 1: you know, going into training camp. This is kind of

744
00:34:20,239 --> 00:34:23,040
Speaker 1: necessary in my opinion for the rookies. It's definitely a

745
00:34:23,120 --> 00:34:25,920
Speaker 1: time where things aren't moving too fast. We can kind

746
00:34:25,960 --> 00:34:28,640
Speaker 1: of develop and learn the offense, and guys on the

747
00:34:28,680 --> 00:34:31,920
Speaker 1: defensive side learn the defense and get game game like reps.

748
00:34:32,840 --> 00:34:34,560
Speaker 1: You know, guys are still moving out there, you know,

749
00:34:34,680 --> 00:34:38,360
Speaker 1: we're we're still throwing routes against DB's, We're still you know,

750
00:34:39,280 --> 00:34:42,080
Speaker 1: moving around defenders and rushes and stuff like that. Obviously

751
00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:44,680
Speaker 1: there's no contact, but it definitely gives you a game

752
00:34:44,760 --> 00:34:46,759
Speaker 1: like phil and as many reps as you can get

753
00:34:46,760 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: with that, it's going to help you on the long run. Jess,

754
00:34:48,480 --> 00:34:51,400
Speaker 1: I was thinking about, Um, you hear sometimes rookies say this,

755
00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,600
Speaker 1: You really have had no downtime right since since your

756
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:58,399
Speaker 1: wyoming's schedule ended and you went out you out West

757
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,480
Speaker 1: worked with Jordan Palmer for a while, and you're here

758
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,640
Speaker 1: working and even after the mini camp this week, the

759
00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:04,759
Speaker 1: rookie stick around for another week or so. Do you

760
00:35:04,840 --> 00:35:07,560
Speaker 1: feel like you need a break just to get away

761
00:35:07,600 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 1: for a while before camp? No? Are you sure a

762
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,279
Speaker 1: little bit? This is what I've wanted to do in

763
00:35:13,320 --> 00:35:15,880
Speaker 1: my entire life, and now that I'm here, it just

764
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:17,879
Speaker 1: kind of reiterated the fact that this is what I've

765
00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: loved to do. It's football twenty four to seven. The

766
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,040
Speaker 1: facilities are open for us. I get to throw the

767
00:35:24,120 --> 00:35:25,279
Speaker 1: ball every day. I get to come in and be

768
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 1: a professional football player, And in my mind, that's the

769
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 1: greatest thing that that's ever happened to me. What did

770
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,120
Speaker 1: you get from Jordan Palmer working with him over the

771
00:35:33,200 --> 00:35:36,840
Speaker 1: summer or spring really winter? And how much contact have

772
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:38,400
Speaker 1: you have you been in with him since you've been

773
00:35:38,480 --> 00:35:40,200
Speaker 1: here for a couple of weeks? You know, Jordan, I

774
00:35:40,680 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: say this to everybody that I meet. I wouldn't be

775
00:35:43,200 --> 00:35:46,120
Speaker 1: sitting here without Jordan. He's helped me out tremendously. We

776
00:35:46,280 --> 00:35:49,640
Speaker 1: talk every every few days or so. We're always in

777
00:35:49,680 --> 00:35:52,600
Speaker 1: a group message. They'll going back and forth and sharing

778
00:35:52,640 --> 00:35:56,160
Speaker 1: some details. But I mean in the summer, I'll go

779
00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: back to him. I'll throw with them a few days,

780
00:35:57,640 --> 00:36:00,719
Speaker 1: just kind of converse with him and you know, pick

781
00:36:00,800 --> 00:36:02,960
Speaker 1: his brain a little bit more because he's helped me

782
00:36:03,000 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: out tremendously. Um, you talk about a great dude. That's

783
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: that's one right there talking. What's the next step for you?

784
00:36:08,840 --> 00:36:11,280
Speaker 1: I mean all's been sitting here, You're you're sitting behind

785
00:36:11,320 --> 00:36:15,240
Speaker 1: aj You're sitting behind Nate. Um, they talked to anything

786
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:17,759
Speaker 1: about when they tell you how many reps you're gonna get,

787
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:20,640
Speaker 1: how that's gonna change, When is gonna change? Who? How

788
00:36:20,640 --> 00:36:23,000
Speaker 1: are they gonna tell you that's gonna change. That's not

789
00:36:23,120 --> 00:36:25,440
Speaker 1: up to me. Um, you know that's that's coach's decision.

790
00:36:25,560 --> 00:36:28,160
Speaker 1: I'm here trying to get better, trying to learn, uh,

791
00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:30,920
Speaker 1: trying to be the best teammate possible. And you know

792
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:33,960
Speaker 1: that's that's what I'm gonna do. Um until I hear otherwise.

793
00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,720
Speaker 1: You know, I'm not really focusing on who gets reps

794
00:36:36,760 --> 00:36:38,880
Speaker 1: win or where. I'm just focused on my reps. That

795
00:36:38,880 --> 00:36:40,319
Speaker 1: I get. I'm gonna try to make sure that I'm

796
00:36:40,360 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 1: doing them the right way and I'm paying attention to

797
00:36:42,840 --> 00:36:45,359
Speaker 1: every detail. Josh, I'm gonna say a month ago, maybe

798
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,279
Speaker 1: six weeks ago, we talked to Bill Parcels out in

799
00:36:47,280 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: the show The Hall of Fame Coaching. You spent some

800
00:36:49,160 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: time with him, which I found interesting. I didn't I

801
00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,279
Speaker 1: didn't think Parcels cared that much about young guys. But

802
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,120
Speaker 1: you you and what Darnold spent some time with. We did?

803
00:36:57,440 --> 00:36:59,000
Speaker 1: We did, and what'd you get out of that? That

804
00:36:59,120 --> 00:37:01,279
Speaker 1: was a fantastic be experience. We know, we went down

805
00:37:01,320 --> 00:37:04,400
Speaker 1: to uh Jupiter, Florida and got to go visit him

806
00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,800
Speaker 1: in his home and got to see all the trophies

807
00:37:06,840 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: and the pictures and memories that he had. It was

808
00:37:09,440 --> 00:37:12,080
Speaker 1: just something special because of how long he's been around

809
00:37:12,120 --> 00:37:14,920
Speaker 1: the game and the knowledge that he has. You know,

810
00:37:14,960 --> 00:37:17,440
Speaker 1: he had some great things for me and Sam. You know,

811
00:37:17,560 --> 00:37:20,400
Speaker 1: he shared a lot of knowledge with us. And to

812
00:37:20,520 --> 00:37:22,280
Speaker 1: go down there and talk with one of the greatest

813
00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,759
Speaker 1: coaches of all time and talk football and talk how

814
00:37:25,800 --> 00:37:28,799
Speaker 1: to be a professional quarterback. You know, me and Sam

815
00:37:28,840 --> 00:37:30,600
Speaker 1: were like, you know, kids in a candy shop. Sure,

816
00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:32,360
Speaker 1: he said. One of the things that came out of that.

817
00:37:32,760 --> 00:37:34,640
Speaker 1: His big message for him is, you know, you got

818
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:36,840
Speaker 1: to just get back in the huddle because when you

819
00:37:37,160 --> 00:37:41,000
Speaker 1: start playing, you're gonna mess up. I mean, everybody does

820
00:37:41,040 --> 00:37:43,760
Speaker 1: it and you and you don't become an NFL quarterback

821
00:37:43,840 --> 00:37:45,880
Speaker 1: until you're down. You've beaten beat thirty five to ten

822
00:37:45,920 --> 00:37:47,319
Speaker 1: and it's your fault and you got to get back

823
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:48,800
Speaker 1: in the huddle. As a player, what did do you

824
00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 1: remember that? I mean, oh, absolutely, you've been through that

825
00:37:51,040 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: before at a different level. Definitely. I mean I think

826
00:37:53,680 --> 00:37:57,440
Speaker 1: throughout life you can kind of apply in those terms,

827
00:37:57,480 --> 00:37:59,640
Speaker 1: but definitely in my football career, there's been times where

828
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:02,200
Speaker 1: you know, I've had bad games, I've had bad plays,

829
00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,680
Speaker 1: and you know, the team doesn't look at you any different,

830
00:38:04,680 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 1: but they expect you to get in that huddle and

831
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:08,720
Speaker 1: be the same guy that you were before that happened.

832
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 1: And you know, Parcels renovated that, and you know, he

833
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:13,799
Speaker 1: had a lot of examples of a lot of great

834
00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:15,719
Speaker 1: quarterbacks that have played under him, and the things that

835
00:38:15,800 --> 00:38:18,960
Speaker 1: they did throughout the week and the repetitions that they

836
00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,920
Speaker 1: got during practice. They were always trying to perfect their craft.

837
00:38:22,000 --> 00:38:25,240
Speaker 1: So you know, that was one of the coolest experiences

838
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,040
Speaker 1: that I've had throughout this whole process. What have you

839
00:38:27,120 --> 00:38:29,320
Speaker 1: picked up about the vibe here or the maybe the

840
00:38:29,360 --> 00:38:31,560
Speaker 1: work ethic here in Buffalo? Who with the bills? What

841
00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,600
Speaker 1: have you learned? It's fantastic. Um, the locker room, you know,

842
00:38:34,840 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 1: it's it's special. That's the only way I can kind

843
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 1: of explain to it. You know, it's definitely a family.

844
00:38:40,480 --> 00:38:42,880
Speaker 1: Like Phil, I think everybody here cares about each other

845
00:38:42,920 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: and then we care about winning. We go into the

846
00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:46,920
Speaker 1: weight room and people put their heads down, they go

847
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:49,560
Speaker 1: to work. You know, there's not much goofing around that

848
00:38:49,600 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 1: goes around here. Um. Actually there's there's times and places

849
00:38:52,520 --> 00:38:56,840
Speaker 1: for that. But when we're doing things in football terms,

850
00:38:56,880 --> 00:38:59,040
Speaker 1: working out on the practice field, we're trying to do

851
00:38:59,160 --> 00:39:01,560
Speaker 1: things to put ourselves some positions to win football games.

852
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 1: And that's definitely the filth that I get with you.

853
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:05,840
Speaker 1: So you got these two guys like Tremaine Edmonds and

854
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,800
Speaker 1: Harrison Phillips, wide and Teller and these guys good, pretty

855
00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:13,320
Speaker 1: good group of athletes. But to me, it's been and

856
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,760
Speaker 1: Murph and I've spoken about a number of times great dudes.

857
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 1: I mean, right, it's been a great, great group of

858
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: guys that come in. I couldn't have asked for a

859
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:22,440
Speaker 1: better situation. And you know, from top down, everybody in

860
00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,200
Speaker 1: this rookie class I've been able to spend a lot

861
00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:27,080
Speaker 1: of time with, you know, whether it's studying late at

862
00:39:27,200 --> 00:39:28,880
Speaker 1: night or just kind of hanging out in our each

863
00:39:28,920 --> 00:39:30,719
Speaker 1: other's room, was playing mad and going out to eat

864
00:39:30,760 --> 00:39:34,080
Speaker 1: with each other. You know, we've definitely formed a lot

865
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 1: of bonds here that are going to continue throughout, you know,

866
00:39:36,600 --> 00:39:38,719
Speaker 1: our lifetimes. And it's been really cool to kind of

867
00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:42,560
Speaker 1: come into the same situation with fifteen to eighteen other

868
00:39:42,680 --> 00:39:44,960
Speaker 1: dudes that are doing the same thing. They're trying to

869
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:47,279
Speaker 1: make a team and they're here to play football, and

870
00:39:47,400 --> 00:39:49,239
Speaker 1: at the same time there their dudes as well, so

871
00:39:49,440 --> 00:39:51,719
Speaker 1: getting to know each other's stories and backgrounds. It's been

872
00:39:51,800 --> 00:39:53,560
Speaker 1: really fun. A lot of people took notice of the

873
00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 1: picture with you and Harrison Phillips. Over the weekend you

874
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: ran into a wedding party out here in the party, yeah,

875
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: Austin pros in that photo too, You're the only guy

876
00:40:02,239 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: who got named I got Well, there's Harrison Phillips. You

877
00:40:04,040 --> 00:40:07,200
Speaker 1: always said anything about him. Proles In there too. What

878
00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:09,160
Speaker 1: happened there? How did that go? Well? We we just

879
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,920
Speaker 1: went to Lorenzo's foundation event. You know, they're at the

880
00:40:11,960 --> 00:40:15,800
Speaker 1: Bowling Gas. Yeah, it was first of all, fantastic event. Lorenzo.

881
00:40:16,160 --> 00:40:18,680
Speaker 1: That's a special dude right there. He is a fantastic guy,

882
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:22,600
Speaker 1: fantastic teammate, and I love being around him. Um. But

883
00:40:22,719 --> 00:40:24,719
Speaker 1: you know, we were driving back, Harrison wanted to work out,

884
00:40:25,320 --> 00:40:29,200
Speaker 1: and uh, we saw this group taking wedding photos and

885
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,239
Speaker 1: we thought, you know, if they're taking wedding photos in

886
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:33,400
Speaker 1: front of New Airfield, it'd be kind of cool to

887
00:40:33,440 --> 00:40:35,880
Speaker 1: go stop by and say hello and take some pictures.

888
00:40:35,920 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 1: So shock them we did. I pulled up and I

889
00:40:38,280 --> 00:40:39,520
Speaker 1: got out and I just said, can I take some

890
00:40:39,560 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 1: pictures with you guys? And I think at first they're like,

891
00:40:41,880 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 1: who this guy? And then one guy goes, oh, these

892
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:47,319
Speaker 1: are Bills players, you know. So it was pretty cool

893
00:40:48,120 --> 00:40:50,359
Speaker 1: just to kind of go and make somebody's day. And um,

894
00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:53,160
Speaker 1: you know, obviously they were really big Bills fans. That

895
00:40:53,239 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: was a good move, no question about that awesome picture.

896
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:57,640
Speaker 1: It looked like they were having fun. They looked like

897
00:40:57,719 --> 00:41:02,120
Speaker 1: a celebration mode for sure. Yeah, you're a you're gonna

898
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 1: be a Western New York fixture for sure. You're gonna

899
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:06,800
Speaker 1: they're gonna have people out inviting you to their weddings.

900
00:41:06,840 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 1: Who have you've never met? So be ready for that.

901
00:41:09,360 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 1: I'm ready. How do you like living here? It's only

902
00:41:11,200 --> 00:41:12,319
Speaker 1: been a couple of months, but what do you think?

903
00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:15,400
Speaker 1: So it's been fantastic. Um, it's definitely the field that

904
00:41:15,440 --> 00:41:18,600
Speaker 1: I have. I've grown to love, you know, coming from

905
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 1: a small town, a lot of open space, Um, not

906
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:24,399
Speaker 1: a lot of skyscrapers, you know, like in some other

907
00:41:24,920 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: uh NFL cities. So this is definitely the place where

908
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,279
Speaker 1: I was meant to be. Actually, just closed on a house. Um,

909
00:41:30,600 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: so that's, you know, my first big boy purchase. So

910
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:34,480
Speaker 1: it was pretty cool. I've always wanted to do that,

911
00:41:34,560 --> 00:41:37,080
Speaker 1: and it was crossing off the bucket list. Cool. And

912
00:41:37,200 --> 00:41:39,160
Speaker 1: your parents said, well, they be here a lot when

913
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 1: the season begins, because they're a long way from home,

914
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:42,840
Speaker 1: they will be here a lot and they always have

915
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 1: a place to stay with me. Um. So it's been

916
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,359
Speaker 1: cool to see how they've kind of handled everything. They're

917
00:41:48,360 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 1: super excited. Um. All the Fireball actually is my hometown.

918
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:56,960
Speaker 1: They're all Buffalo Bills out so yeah, that when you

919
00:41:57,040 --> 00:41:58,840
Speaker 1: get it happened for me. I'm sure to happen. You

920
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: get a big family in your mom and dad and

921
00:42:01,719 --> 00:42:04,000
Speaker 1: immediately they need gear, right, I mean, did you have

922
00:42:04,080 --> 00:42:06,160
Speaker 1: to send them stuff them and load them up with

923
00:42:06,200 --> 00:42:08,920
Speaker 1: the gear and all the swag. I did, and actually

924
00:42:08,960 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 1: had a few gift cards to uh you know like

925
00:42:11,200 --> 00:42:14,759
Speaker 1: NFL Shop and other places like that, so um, all

926
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:16,800
Speaker 1: that went to them. So I loaded them up and

927
00:42:16,840 --> 00:42:18,480
Speaker 1: I said it just got there. So they were pretty

928
00:42:18,480 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: stoked about it. That's great. Yeah, last question, I have

929
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:22,440
Speaker 1: any goals for this week mini camp? What do you

930
00:42:22,480 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 1: want to get done the next three days? Just to

931
00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:26,800
Speaker 1: continue to improve, you know, better, take a better command

932
00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:29,360
Speaker 1: of the offense. Make sure that I'm paying attention to

933
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:31,719
Speaker 1: every detail. Make sure that I'm knowing exactly what I'm

934
00:42:31,760 --> 00:42:34,480
Speaker 1: doing before I go out there and I do it. So, um,

935
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:38,160
Speaker 1: you know, Dabile, He's gonna do me right. Um, you know,

936
00:42:38,320 --> 00:42:40,600
Speaker 1: learn behind Nate and aj and just continued to see

937
00:42:40,640 --> 00:42:43,680
Speaker 1: how they attack these mini days or the mini camp

938
00:42:43,719 --> 00:42:45,719
Speaker 1: because I this's my first time, so just to see

939
00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:47,120
Speaker 1: how they handle it and go out there and just

940
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,560
Speaker 1: kind of follow their lid. Good luck to you, Thank you,

941
00:42:49,600 --> 00:42:54,560
Speaker 1: so much thanks as quarterback first round draft pick Josh Allen.

942
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,440
Speaker 1: Steve and I back in a moment One Bill's Live

943
00:42:56,600 --> 00:42:59,320
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive and this is Buffalo Bills Radio.

944
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,640
Speaker 1: Welcome back to One Bill's Live, John Murphy, Steve Tasker

945
00:43:15,760 --> 00:43:19,080
Speaker 1: in our one Buffalo studio. We just had Josh Allen

946
00:43:19,120 --> 00:43:20,759
Speaker 1: in here for his first visit. We had him on

947
00:43:20,760 --> 00:43:22,720
Speaker 1: the show when he was drafted, hey, after he was drafted.

948
00:43:22,760 --> 00:43:24,520
Speaker 1: But he's good to talk to him. What a down

949
00:43:24,600 --> 00:43:27,239
Speaker 1: to earth the good guy. You you you're the guy

950
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:29,319
Speaker 1: who makes a point about all other rookies are all

951
00:43:29,360 --> 00:43:31,760
Speaker 1: great guys. He is as good as they comment seems

952
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:35,040
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, I mean he's he's you know, he's

953
00:43:35,080 --> 00:43:37,439
Speaker 1: just uh it just makes a really good impression. Yeah,

954
00:43:37,520 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 1: you know, all those guys did Harrison Philip, I mean

955
00:43:39,360 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: we did him on the phone first, you know, we

956
00:43:40,920 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 1: had him on the show on the phone after they

957
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 1: were drafted and they were all scattered about the country.

958
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:45,400
Speaker 1: Now they're all back here. We got a chance to

959
00:43:45,440 --> 00:43:48,120
Speaker 1: see him in person, talk to him. We had Harrison

960
00:43:48,160 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: Phillips on, we had Tremaine Edmonds on, and now Josh

961
00:43:50,280 --> 00:43:56,000
Speaker 1: Allen was on. It just they just seem smart, they

962
00:43:56,080 --> 00:44:00,320
Speaker 1: seem well grounded, they seem ready to learn, you know,

963
00:44:00,440 --> 00:44:04,560
Speaker 1: eager to just just couldn't it couldn't. All those guys,

964
00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:06,640
Speaker 1: those draft picks, all the way down to Wyatt Teller

965
00:44:06,719 --> 00:44:10,360
Speaker 1: and Austin Prowle and and all those they just make

966
00:44:10,400 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: a great impression on you. How much. Look, we talked

967
00:44:13,040 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 1: about a little bit at the end of last week

968
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:17,520
Speaker 1: about the fact that he Josh getting third team reps

969
00:44:18,120 --> 00:44:20,400
Speaker 1: and when should they you know, give him more reps,

970
00:44:20,440 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 1: et cetera. And we beat back to death last week.

971
00:44:22,520 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 1: But it's a terrible Twitter poll last week. How much

972
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:26,879
Speaker 1: do you think Josh thinks about that? You think at

973
00:44:26,960 --> 00:44:29,680
Speaker 1: some point, at some time, he's gonna think to himself,

974
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:31,960
Speaker 1: all right, I gotta get get up with them once here,

975
00:44:32,040 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 1: right when you think I think he's got to be

976
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:37,240
Speaker 1: eager to play, he's competitive, he's you know it, probably

977
00:44:37,280 --> 00:44:39,600
Speaker 1: has a fairly high opinion of visibility. At some point.

978
00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: I'm not meaning tomorrow, or I don't even mean at

979
00:44:41,920 --> 00:44:43,640
Speaker 1: the start of training camp, but at some time he's

980
00:44:43,680 --> 00:44:45,480
Speaker 1: gonna have to think, let me go, you know, cut

981
00:44:45,520 --> 00:44:48,279
Speaker 1: me loose, right, Either that or it will happen just

982
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:51,520
Speaker 1: a hair before he thinks it should. I think ideally,

983
00:44:52,320 --> 00:44:55,200
Speaker 1: uh to always keep him like on edge, you know,

984
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:59,360
Speaker 1: and I don't know that that usually it never happens

985
00:44:59,360 --> 00:45:01,520
Speaker 1: with the coach. Hey, if you do ABC and D,

986
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,080
Speaker 1: you're gonna start getting second team ReBs. It's it's not

987
00:45:04,239 --> 00:45:06,879
Speaker 1: that simple. It's it's because it's about the two guys

988
00:45:06,880 --> 00:45:08,640
Speaker 1: ahead of you. The one guy ahead of you at

989
00:45:08,760 --> 00:45:12,560
Speaker 1: number two is Nate Peterman. And it's not like, you know,

990
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,759
Speaker 1: when you make this play and he doesn't or whatever

991
00:45:14,840 --> 00:45:17,640
Speaker 1: like that. It's it's a it's a it's a judgment

992
00:45:17,719 --> 00:45:20,160
Speaker 1: called by the coaching staff and they you know, And

993
00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:23,359
Speaker 1: there's no doubt that being a guy like Josh Allen

994
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,640
Speaker 1: who got picked that high in the draft, he's gonna

995
00:45:26,680 --> 00:45:28,120
Speaker 1: get a little bit of the benefit of the doubt.

996
00:45:28,400 --> 00:45:30,520
Speaker 1: They're gonna want to see him develop a little faster.

997
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:33,400
Speaker 1: There's a little more pressure on the organization to make

998
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,800
Speaker 1: sure that on one hand, he develops as quickly and

999
00:45:37,280 --> 00:45:40,560
Speaker 1: as proficiently as possible, But on the other hand, you

1000
00:45:40,600 --> 00:45:42,440
Speaker 1: don't want to do it too fast so that he

1001
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: starts taking steps backwards and then you have to go

1002
00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,839
Speaker 1: back and repair the damage you did by promoting him.

1003
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,279
Speaker 1: Too fast. So there's all this stuff going on, and

1004
00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:53,359
Speaker 1: but for the time being, I think he knows right

1005
00:45:53,400 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 1: where he's at and he's okay with it. I think

1006
00:45:55,360 --> 00:45:57,480
Speaker 1: the coaching staff has a plan. There's no doubt they

1007
00:45:57,560 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: have a vision for how fast they want to bring

1008
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: him along, and we'll see how it goes. But there's

1009
00:46:02,600 --> 00:46:05,240
Speaker 1: no doubt. I mean, he's physically capable and certainly seems

1010
00:46:05,280 --> 00:46:07,279
Speaker 1: well grounded enough to handle whatever they throw at him.

1011
00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:08,960
Speaker 1: We thank Josh Allen for joining us on the show.

1012
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,680
Speaker 1: We're talking about trades today and we asked you to

1013
00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,319
Speaker 1: chime in with your favorite trade in Buffalo Bill's history.

1014
00:46:14,440 --> 00:46:17,160
Speaker 1: A couple of calls on the line about these trades.

1015
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:19,680
Speaker 1: Pat calling from East Aurora. Go ahead, Pat, Welcome to

1016
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:24,320
Speaker 1: the show. Hi, guys him. One of the things I

1017
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:30,080
Speaker 1: think lost in the Kuzino trade is that that the

1018
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,320
Speaker 1: trade that allowed us to get Kusino was trading Oj Simpson,

1019
00:46:33,520 --> 00:46:36,000
Speaker 1: Yeah to the Niners, right and then yeah for their

1020
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:38,480
Speaker 1: first rounder. And think about it, Actually, the trade of

1021
00:46:38,520 --> 00:46:43,920
Speaker 1: Oj was for getting Kelly. Yeah. Yeah, you get down

1022
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 1: when you get down to the root of it. Yeah,

1023
00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:49,000
Speaker 1: it all it's all connected, you know, I mean, somehow,

1024
00:46:49,120 --> 00:46:51,080
Speaker 1: some way, but yeah, that's an interesting point. I didn't

1025
00:46:51,080 --> 00:46:53,399
Speaker 1: realize that. I didn't know that. Yeah, thanks Pat. Here's

1026
00:46:53,440 --> 00:46:55,719
Speaker 1: Bill and Newfane, New York. Hello, Bill, go ahead, you're

1027
00:46:55,760 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: on the air. How are you guys doing today? Great?

1028
00:46:58,040 --> 00:47:02,279
Speaker 1: Outstand good. I got a couple for you, Murphy'll appreciate him. Okay,

1029
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:05,040
Speaker 1: it doesn't work out great, Walt Potowski for a mad

1030
00:47:05,160 --> 00:47:09,680
Speaker 1: Rashid And the other one was Paul Seymour for Frank Lewis.

1031
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,640
Speaker 1: That made a big impact with Urge. I'll leave it

1032
00:47:12,760 --> 00:47:15,080
Speaker 1: at that and let you go. Okay, what was the

1033
00:47:15,120 --> 00:47:18,400
Speaker 1: second one? He said, Paul Seymour for Frank Lewis from Steelers.

1034
00:47:19,560 --> 00:47:21,920
Speaker 1: I gotta check that that is a good trade. Paul

1035
00:47:21,960 --> 00:47:24,120
Speaker 1: Seymour was a good player, but Frank Lewis was a

1036
00:47:24,280 --> 00:47:27,600
Speaker 1: major competitor and a major contributor, I should say on

1037
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:31,759
Speaker 1: those nineteen eighties successful Bills teams. Absolutely he was. Thanks

1038
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:33,319
Speaker 1: for that. We're going to talk about trades a lot

1039
00:47:33,400 --> 00:47:35,319
Speaker 1: today and we want to hear from you. What's your

1040
00:47:35,440 --> 00:47:39,120
Speaker 1: favorite trade in franchise history. Will take your tweets on that.

1041
00:47:39,520 --> 00:47:41,600
Speaker 1: You can send it into at one Bill's Live. We'll

1042
00:47:41,600 --> 00:47:44,080
Speaker 1: take your calls on that. Eight oh three five fifty

1043
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:47,120
Speaker 1: and toll free one eight eight by fifty two five fifty.

1044
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:48,799
Speaker 1: A couple more from the tweet sheet there, buddy, Yeah,

1045
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:51,920
Speaker 1: we got one from the Postman. He says, two thousand

1046
00:47:51,920 --> 00:47:54,600
Speaker 1: and three, the Bills trade peerless Price to Atlanta for

1047
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:57,359
Speaker 1: after he had an impressive season for a first round pick,

1048
00:47:57,440 --> 00:48:00,440
Speaker 1: and they use that on Willis mcgahey. He says, will

1049
00:48:00,560 --> 00:48:03,240
Speaker 1: is one of my personal favorite college athletes. He performs

1050
00:48:03,280 --> 00:48:05,960
Speaker 1: in Price declines and actually ends up back in Buffalo

1051
00:48:06,080 --> 00:48:08,399
Speaker 1: for his last two years. So you trade away a guy,

1052
00:48:08,920 --> 00:48:10,520
Speaker 1: you get a first round pick, and then the guy

1053
00:48:10,640 --> 00:48:12,560
Speaker 1: comes back that you traded away for his last two

1054
00:48:12,640 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 1: years of his career. So yeah, it all gets complicated

1055
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Speaker 1: when these guys start either going up or down after

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00:48:18,080 --> 00:48:20,400
Speaker 1: the trade or you know, after the team they've been

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00:48:20,440 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: traded to. So that's that's interesting that Price actually got

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00:48:22,880 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: traded for a first round or end up getting him back.

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00:48:25,040 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 1: Here's a weird tweet fake from Grim Reaper. Favorite trade

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00:48:28,920 --> 00:48:31,640
Speaker 1: hands down was going from calling the show the John

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00:48:31,719 --> 00:48:35,480
Speaker 1: Murphy Show to one Bills Live, Love you Murph. That's

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00:48:36,120 --> 00:48:38,680
Speaker 1: give you a little give you a little wink though. Yeah,

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00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:41,040
Speaker 1: Oh that's a Wayne Coca. Yeah, that's I guess that's

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00:48:41,120 --> 00:48:45,080
Speaker 1: pretty good trade. Yeah, I like, I'm for it. The

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00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,600
Speaker 1: results are sketchy though. Speaking of trades, one of the

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00:48:49,640 --> 00:48:51,360
Speaker 1: guys involved in one of the all time trades in

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Speaker 1: NFL history, Cornell, you spent at Sandy Boy to join

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Speaker 1: us when we come back at a moment, so'll come

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Speaker 1: on back for that. It is One Bill's Life presented

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Speaker 1: by Collid of Health from One Bill's Drive and this

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Speaker 1: is Buffalo Bills Radioffalo Bills Radio Network Stories up date

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00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:23,360
Speaker 1: update from One Bills Drive. The mandatory Miniicamp starts tomorrow

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00:49:23,400 --> 00:49:26,080
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. The three day miniicamp probably gonna

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00:49:26,080 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: look a lot like the last ten workouts, the organized

1075
00:49:28,280 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: team activity that ended last Friday. Bills have had strong

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00:49:31,120 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: attendance in their ota so far this spring. Bills players

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Speaker 1: off today on the scene tomorrow for minicamp, and after

1078
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:39,319
Speaker 1: the final miniicamp practice Thursday, they're off for about six

1079
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 1: weeks until training camp officially opens at Saint John Fisher

1080
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:46,280
Speaker 1: College around the NFL Giants wide receiver Odell Beckham Junior

1081
00:49:46,320 --> 00:49:48,880
Speaker 1: plans to attend that team mini caamp. According to ESPN,

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00:49:49,000 --> 00:49:52,879
Speaker 1: that gets underway on Tuesday. Beckham participated in a portion

1083
00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:55,800
Speaker 1: of the Giants voluntary OTAs earlier this year. He is

1084
00:49:55,840 --> 00:49:58,719
Speaker 1: pushing for a new contract extension. Some thought he might

1085
00:49:58,840 --> 00:50:01,960
Speaker 1: skip minicamp and take a fine, but he is expected

1086
00:50:02,000 --> 00:50:05,160
Speaker 1: to be there. Beckham still needs to get medical clearance

1087
00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:08,720
Speaker 1: on the broken ankle he suffered in twenty seventeen. Seahawks

1088
00:50:08,760 --> 00:50:11,799
Speaker 1: safety Earl Thomas announced yesterday he will not attend their

1089
00:50:11,840 --> 00:50:15,320
Speaker 1: Mandy Tory minicamp this week until his contracts issue is settled.

1090
00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:17,200
Speaker 1: Says he wants to remain a Seahawk for the rest

1091
00:50:17,239 --> 00:50:19,520
Speaker 1: of his career, but going into the final year of

1092
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:21,719
Speaker 1: a four year, forty million deer. He also said he

1093
00:50:21,800 --> 00:50:23,880
Speaker 1: wants to have certainty as to what lines have had.

1094
00:50:24,200 --> 00:50:26,759
Speaker 1: Johnny Menzel good outing for the Hamilton Tiger Cats over

1095
00:50:26,840 --> 00:50:29,080
Speaker 1: the weekend twelve or twenty eighty eight yards in a touchdown.

1096
00:50:29,320 --> 00:50:32,840
Speaker 1: Menzel trying his pro football comeback in the Canadian Football League.

1097
00:50:33,080 --> 00:50:35,040
Speaker 1: His Tie Cats scored thirty straight points to be in

1098
00:50:35,120 --> 00:50:38,080
Speaker 1: Montreal thirty to fifteen in the final preseason game for

1099
00:50:38,200 --> 00:50:41,359
Speaker 1: both teams. Lebron James after being swept in the NBA

1100
00:50:41,440 --> 00:50:44,319
Speaker 1: finals by Golden State, says he has no idea at

1101
00:50:44,400 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 1: this point whether that was the last game he'll ever

1102
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:51,000
Speaker 1: play with the Cleveland Cavaliers. Lebron and the Cavs lost

1103
00:50:51,040 --> 00:50:52,840
Speaker 1: one a way to eighty five to the Warriors in

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00:50:52,960 --> 00:50:55,440
Speaker 1: that game. And Dwayne Casey has reached an agreement on

1105
00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:58,120
Speaker 1: a five year contract to become the next coach of

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00:50:58,160 --> 00:51:01,160
Speaker 1: the Detroit Pistons of the NBA. The agreement comes one

1107
00:51:01,200 --> 00:51:04,280
Speaker 1: month after Casey was fired by the Toronto Raptors. Second

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Speaker 1: men's Major of twenty eighteen arrives this week to US Open,

1109
00:51:07,239 --> 00:51:10,600
Speaker 1: but no real overwhelming favorite to take home the national championship.

1110
00:51:10,880 --> 00:51:13,920
Speaker 1: Dustin Johnson officially the favorite at the Open at Chinnecock

1111
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:16,160
Speaker 1: Hills a week. I'm now listed as ten to one

1112
00:51:16,520 --> 00:51:18,840
Speaker 1: on the Oddsmaker's boards. And that's the update from One

1113
00:51:18,880 --> 00:51:22,520
Speaker 1: Bill's Drive. John Murphy and Steve Tanks are coming to

1114
00:51:22,600 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: you from our One Buffalo studio. A couple of things

1115
00:51:24,640 --> 00:51:27,720
Speaker 1: in sports. Steve, you're into the Open, You're pretty pumped

1116
00:51:27,719 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: about the opening, especially, Yeah, Dustin john Dustin Johnson with

1117
00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:34,759
Speaker 1: a whole out eagle to slam the door yesterday. That's

1118
00:51:34,800 --> 00:51:37,720
Speaker 1: pretty cool, really cool, really cool. One hundred and sixty

1119
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:43,680
Speaker 1: nine yard nine iron or something. Yeah, Tiger Woods fourteen

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00:51:43,719 --> 00:51:46,839
Speaker 1: to one odds, second Lois odds to win. He's tied

1121
00:51:46,840 --> 00:51:48,800
Speaker 1: with a bunch of others there. Tiger has not He

1122
00:51:48,880 --> 00:51:50,600
Speaker 1: won the Open ten years ago and he's not one

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Speaker 1: of major sense is he a factor this week? Do

1124
00:51:52,480 --> 00:51:54,719
Speaker 1: you think? No? I don't. I know. He'll be in

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00:51:54,760 --> 00:51:58,239
Speaker 1: the conversation probably for a minute and hopefully it'll be late.

1126
00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:00,719
Speaker 1: But he's good at to play. I don't know if

1127
00:52:00,719 --> 00:52:02,839
Speaker 1: he's good enough anymore to put four rounds together. That's

1128
00:52:02,880 --> 00:52:05,960
Speaker 1: the thing. He's really good for one or two, maybe

1129
00:52:06,080 --> 00:52:08,520
Speaker 1: two and a half, and then something happens and he

1130
00:52:08,600 --> 00:52:11,040
Speaker 1: can't get on. But anyway, so we're talking about trades

1131
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:12,960
Speaker 1: today on one Bills Live. One of the great trades

1132
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:16,280
Speaker 1: in the history of the franchise was made in nineteen

1133
00:52:16,440 --> 00:52:18,920
Speaker 1: eighty eight, where the second player picked overall in the

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Speaker 1: draft was traded for by a three team deal for

1135
00:52:21,600 --> 00:52:23,640
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills. It's one of the signature moves that

1136
00:52:23,760 --> 00:52:26,440
Speaker 1: Hall of Fame general manager Bill Polian made, and it

1137
00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,160
Speaker 1: was one of those that put the Buffalo Bills on

1138
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:31,440
Speaker 1: the map. The result really the bottom line and the

1139
00:52:31,520 --> 00:52:33,759
Speaker 1: crown jewel of the entire trade turned out to be

1140
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Speaker 1: a rookie linebacker named Cornelius Bennett who joins us now

1141
00:52:38,440 --> 00:52:41,200
Speaker 1: on one Bills Live Biscuit. Thanks so much for coming on.

1142
00:52:41,280 --> 00:52:44,480
Speaker 1: I hope you're doing well. Everything is a great saving.

1143
00:52:44,520 --> 00:52:47,200
Speaker 1: How are you doing, bro, I'm doing better than I deserve. Actually,

1144
00:52:47,280 --> 00:52:49,840
Speaker 1: I want to thanks for coming on. I what do

1145
00:52:49,920 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: you remember you know when you first tell me about

1146
00:52:53,560 --> 00:52:55,680
Speaker 1: finding out who gave you the call? How did you know?

1147
00:52:55,800 --> 00:52:57,400
Speaker 1: When did you know it was in the works, and

1148
00:52:57,800 --> 00:52:59,759
Speaker 1: how complicated it was gonna be? Tell us what you

1149
00:52:59,800 --> 00:53:06,279
Speaker 1: were remember? The day started out flying from Tello to

1150
00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:09,480
Speaker 1: Atlanta and just sitting in the Delta Crown room for

1151
00:53:10,440 --> 00:53:13,800
Speaker 1: seem like forever, knowing that that would be a trade

1152
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:16,239
Speaker 1: at some point during the day because you know, it's

1153
00:53:16,320 --> 00:53:19,800
Speaker 1: right up on the trade deadlines or something had to

1154
00:53:19,880 --> 00:53:22,440
Speaker 1: happen either that was now it's gonna get trader. I

1155
00:53:22,560 --> 00:53:24,640
Speaker 1: was gonna sit out and go back in the draft.

1156
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,000
Speaker 1: I had made those kind of plans. You know, we're

1157
00:53:27,000 --> 00:53:31,040
Speaker 1: ahead of time, and my agent at the time, Richard Woods,

1158
00:53:31,880 --> 00:53:35,279
Speaker 1: would disappear for it seemed like forever and go have

1159
00:53:35,440 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 1: conversations with different teams. I would assume and come back

1160
00:53:38,760 --> 00:53:43,680
Speaker 1: and report and like in the eleventh hours things as

1161
00:53:43,680 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 1: though he came back and said, Buffalo just came in

1162
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:49,080
Speaker 1: the picture and they're looking at looking good and trying

1163
00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:50,880
Speaker 1: to work out the trade with a couple of other teams,

1164
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,080
Speaker 1: and I'll be back with you and update you again.

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00:53:54,160 --> 00:53:56,200
Speaker 1: And when he came back to build had been done

1166
00:53:57,000 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 1: and he had made the arrangements for us to fly

1167
00:53:59,440 --> 00:54:03,200
Speaker 1: from Atlanta to Buffalo um to steal basically, to steal

1168
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:06,800
Speaker 1: the deal. And so that was Halloween Day of nineteen

1169
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Speaker 1: eighty seven. Yeah, prettiest Geomeraphy, your question for you even

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Speaker 1: before that, what was the issue with Indie? Was it money?

1171
00:54:13,640 --> 00:54:15,200
Speaker 1: Was it just you didn't want to play there? What

1172
00:54:15,719 --> 00:54:17,200
Speaker 1: you were you were sitting out for the first two

1173
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:18,840
Speaker 1: months of the season, or at least I know there

1174
00:54:18,960 --> 00:54:21,759
Speaker 1: was a strike in there, a work disruption, But what

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00:54:22,239 --> 00:54:24,319
Speaker 1: what was it about Indie that made you not want

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00:54:24,360 --> 00:54:27,200
Speaker 1: to play there? I like how you said work destruction.

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00:54:27,280 --> 00:54:31,440
Speaker 1: There was a strike, yeah, but and what's the same

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00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:34,440
Speaker 1: reason why I said, the active players at that time

1179
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,719
Speaker 1: were not working and what you know, money basically, And

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00:54:37,800 --> 00:54:41,840
Speaker 1: when it all boils down to um, Indianapolis grafted me

1181
00:54:41,960 --> 00:54:44,279
Speaker 1: back and overall and said that you know, I should

1182
00:54:44,360 --> 00:54:49,120
Speaker 1: be paid UM at such And every time we appeared

1183
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,280
Speaker 1: to have a deal done, I was flying from Touchluse

1184
00:54:51,360 --> 00:54:54,640
Speaker 1: to Indianapolis to UM do the deal. And by the

1185
00:54:54,719 --> 00:54:56,279
Speaker 1: time I would get that, a deal would be off

1186
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:59,000
Speaker 1: the table and I would, you know, be this you know,

1187
00:54:59,200 --> 00:55:02,000
Speaker 1: just upset and would have you. So the last time

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Speaker 1: that I went up there to do that to sign,

1189
00:55:04,719 --> 00:55:06,320
Speaker 1: I made my mind up if we didn't get the

1190
00:55:06,320 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 1: still done that I had made, you know, made plans

1191
00:55:10,200 --> 00:55:14,000
Speaker 1: to secure a loan from a bank, I had already

1192
00:55:14,000 --> 00:55:15,680
Speaker 1: secuted Alan from a bank. And then I was just

1193
00:55:15,800 --> 00:55:18,239
Speaker 1: gonna try to stand touch clues to finish up school

1194
00:55:18,280 --> 00:55:20,360
Speaker 1: if I could, and go back in the draft. And

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Speaker 1: next year, you know, Bo Jackson had just did it,

1196
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Speaker 1: your priory had. We had the same agents, So everything

1197
00:55:25,840 --> 00:55:27,640
Speaker 1: kind of lined up when it came to that part

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Speaker 1: of it. And I wasn't worried about going and trying

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Speaker 1: to play baseball or basketball and anything like that outside

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Speaker 1: of playing um, you know, UM recreational ball or something

1201
00:55:36,760 --> 00:55:39,160
Speaker 1: like that. But UM, I just had prepared myself to

1202
00:55:39,239 --> 00:55:42,279
Speaker 1: go back in the draft, and luckily everything worked out,

1203
00:55:42,320 --> 00:55:44,799
Speaker 1: and you know, eventually I ended up going back to Indianapolis,

1204
00:55:44,880 --> 00:55:48,200
Speaker 1: and of course the fathers they had passed away by them,

1205
00:55:48,239 --> 00:55:51,560
Speaker 1: but we still had some lingualand members and Junior said,

1206
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,680
Speaker 1: we had some We had some laughs about it. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I wonder, And you mentioned your agent was involved. Did

1208
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Speaker 1: the Colts give you or your agent authority to go

1209
00:55:59,360 --> 00:56:01,160
Speaker 1: out and I ain't the trade or who was kind

1210
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:03,680
Speaker 1: of engineering that the search for a trade for you?

1211
00:56:05,280 --> 00:56:09,279
Speaker 1: That's a good question. Um, I would assume that at

1212
00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:13,120
Speaker 1: that particular time that that it was mutual. I can't

1213
00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:15,480
Speaker 1: really fall back there, you know, that's that's a long

1214
00:56:15,560 --> 00:56:17,400
Speaker 1: time ago. But I'm gonna assume it was it was

1215
00:56:17,560 --> 00:56:20,680
Speaker 1: a mutual and uh, there was, but there was to me,

1216
00:56:20,760 --> 00:56:23,280
Speaker 1: it was never in the heart feelings. It was straight business.

1217
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Speaker 1: And you know I treated my whole career like that,

1218
00:56:25,880 --> 00:56:27,839
Speaker 1: you know, a straight business. I loved, you know, love

1219
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:29,560
Speaker 1: the cities that I went, you know that I was

1220
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Speaker 1: in and playing there and the fans and all that,

1221
00:56:32,120 --> 00:56:35,360
Speaker 1: but um, come Monday, you know, time for money. You know,

1222
00:56:35,400 --> 00:56:37,240
Speaker 1: it was. I was a business man. I was Communians

1223
00:56:37,320 --> 00:56:39,279
Speaker 1: ben you know CEO kind of saying or whatever. And

1224
00:56:39,320 --> 00:56:41,920
Speaker 1: I always treated it as such, even even before I

1225
00:56:42,000 --> 00:56:44,680
Speaker 1: got drafted. I just had that particular mindset. You know.

1226
00:56:44,760 --> 00:56:47,239
Speaker 1: I had some great grooming from from Ray Perkins, who

1227
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Speaker 1: was my heir coach excuse me, at the University of

1228
00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:52,320
Speaker 1: Alabama and UM, and that's how I went into the business.

1229
00:56:52,400 --> 00:56:55,560
Speaker 1: So I never had any heart feelings toward Indianapolis. And

1230
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Speaker 1: that's why I went back there and finished up in

1231
00:56:57,560 --> 00:57:00,680
Speaker 1: my career, even though Bill was there. But I had

1232
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:02,759
Speaker 1: no you know, because that would have been you know,

1233
00:57:02,800 --> 00:57:06,520
Speaker 1: if I had burned those bridges twelve years prior, I

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00:57:06,560 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't have had a chance to go back there and

1235
00:57:08,040 --> 00:57:10,279
Speaker 1: played two more years. I finished up my career. Yeah,

1236
00:57:10,480 --> 00:57:12,640
Speaker 1: talk a little bit about when you got to Buffalo.

1237
00:57:13,120 --> 00:57:15,280
Speaker 1: You were kind of parachuting in. It was mid season,

1238
00:57:15,440 --> 00:57:17,360
Speaker 1: was after a strike, And tell me how long it

1239
00:57:17,440 --> 00:57:19,440
Speaker 1: took you to get acclimated. I mean Walk Curry was

1240
00:57:19,440 --> 00:57:24,360
Speaker 1: your defensive coordinator. Talk a little bit about your getting

1241
00:57:24,360 --> 00:57:26,200
Speaker 1: acclimated into the locker room when I was there. I

1242
00:57:26,280 --> 00:57:28,680
Speaker 1: mean I remember you coming in. Talk a little about

1243
00:57:28,680 --> 00:57:31,480
Speaker 1: what the feeling you had. Well, it was a tremendous

1244
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:34,640
Speaker 1: feel them because the first Monday, so that trade happened

1245
00:57:34,640 --> 00:57:36,760
Speaker 1: on stairs that you guys played the Redskins that fund

1246
00:57:37,040 --> 00:57:39,240
Speaker 1: and Darrel got hurt in that game, and I had

1247
00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,560
Speaker 1: to be that first thing Monday morning to meet with

1248
00:57:41,760 --> 00:57:43,960
Speaker 1: Walt and the rest of the defensive coaches to try

1249
00:57:43,960 --> 00:57:47,439
Speaker 1: to prepare for the upcoming Denver games the following week.

1250
00:57:47,640 --> 00:57:49,840
Speaker 1: So Darrel happened to be the first person that I

1251
00:57:50,040 --> 00:57:53,440
Speaker 1: met outside of meeting Bruce at the airport day that

1252
00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: I got traded, and so I'm an acclimation part of

1253
00:57:57,520 --> 00:58:00,800
Speaker 1: it that was instant because of Darrel Beard, Like, uh,

1254
00:58:01,640 --> 00:58:03,280
Speaker 1: he saw me sitting in the covey hole in the

1255
00:58:03,360 --> 00:58:05,480
Speaker 1: old locker room over there, and he told me, like, hey,

1256
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,040
Speaker 1: put put the playbook down. Everything you need to know,

1257
00:58:08,160 --> 00:58:11,000
Speaker 1: I'll teach him. And he did, and everything was learned

1258
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:13,280
Speaker 1: on the fly, and I had to set defensive coordinated

1259
00:58:13,320 --> 00:58:16,120
Speaker 1: I think, to handle th situations like that because it

1260
00:58:16,280 --> 00:58:19,800
Speaker 1: was a very simple assignment that we had. It was

1261
00:58:19,880 --> 00:58:22,360
Speaker 1: not complicated like how it got towards the end of

1262
00:58:22,440 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: my career playing you know, and the pickandrals, I mean,

1263
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:27,760
Speaker 1: those those kind of defenses. So it was the terminology

1264
00:58:27,920 --> 00:58:30,560
Speaker 1: was very simple and the schemes were very simple, and

1265
00:58:31,000 --> 00:58:33,760
Speaker 1: it footed my game. Yeah, I did. As I remember.

1266
00:58:34,080 --> 00:58:35,760
Speaker 1: I remember the first snap you ever had, you were

1267
00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:37,240
Speaker 1: right in the face of the l way you had

1268
00:58:37,240 --> 00:58:39,760
Speaker 1: a couple of practices that day. I think it's actually

1269
00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,800
Speaker 1: fitting that Daryl was the first person you met. All right,

1270
00:58:42,920 --> 00:58:45,000
Speaker 1: you're still and we're all still close friends and and

1271
00:58:45,280 --> 00:58:47,800
Speaker 1: just and it's also fitting that he told you to

1272
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,120
Speaker 1: put the playbook down right. Well, I mean, Darrel was

1273
00:58:51,160 --> 00:58:52,920
Speaker 1: smarter than the end of coach I ever played for.

1274
00:58:54,360 --> 00:58:57,480
Speaker 1: I Darrel knows football and it's a shame that he

1275
00:58:57,600 --> 00:59:00,240
Speaker 1: never never got a chance to coach And I think

1276
00:59:00,280 --> 00:59:03,000
Speaker 1: coaches were afraid to hire there because he was so

1277
00:59:03,200 --> 00:59:05,800
Speaker 1: you know, opinionated and knew what the hell he was

1278
00:59:05,840 --> 00:59:11,480
Speaker 1: talking about. And you asked Bruce Smith, Bruth was gonna

1279
00:59:11,640 --> 00:59:13,680
Speaker 1: Bruce was gonna be Bruce in any way. Bruce was

1280
00:59:13,680 --> 00:59:16,760
Speaker 1: gonna be the greatest ever anyway. But you have to

1281
00:59:16,800 --> 00:59:20,480
Speaker 1: Bruce how good Daryl was. Daryl. Daryl was a general,

1282
00:59:21,240 --> 00:59:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, beyond general's. Daryl is is the smartest football

1283
00:59:24,080 --> 00:59:27,160
Speaker 1: brains I've ever been around. And I was so grateful

1284
00:59:27,200 --> 00:59:29,440
Speaker 1: to have him as a brother Dan, and as a

1285
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:32,000
Speaker 1: brother now and last he said, you know, we are

1286
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:36,320
Speaker 1: thicker than blood right now, and and and after turns out,

1287
00:59:36,360 --> 00:59:38,640
Speaker 1: you know how I think it was turned or whatever

1288
00:59:39,000 --> 00:59:41,800
Speaker 1: you know, you do, certain situations in life or whatever

1289
00:59:41,880 --> 00:59:43,960
Speaker 1: you go through or whatever, and and you always definite

1290
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,560
Speaker 1: one another. You guys, you know, we've we've we've leaned

1291
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,240
Speaker 1: on each other, sticking thin man. And it's been unbelievable

1292
00:59:50,320 --> 00:59:53,680
Speaker 1: to the the brotherhood that love that we all chairs

1293
00:59:53,760 --> 00:59:56,600
Speaker 1: and half one another. And then in your retrospect your

1294
00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,800
Speaker 1: cans after so many years have gone by, it all

1295
00:59:58,880 --> 01:00:01,760
Speaker 1: happened because just chance, Bill Poling decided to get into

1296
01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:04,280
Speaker 1: the trade talking. And it's the kind of the the

1297
01:00:04,400 --> 01:00:07,000
Speaker 1: flukiness of football that you even ended up in Buffalo

1298
01:00:07,160 --> 01:00:09,360
Speaker 1: as opposed to another team in the NFL, and yet

1299
01:00:09,440 --> 01:00:11,480
Speaker 1: now here it's it's been a part of your life

1300
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:14,960
Speaker 1: for the last three decades. It's an amazing I can

1301
01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:19,800
Speaker 1: remember being interview that uh on CBS, you guys want CBS,

1302
01:00:19,920 --> 01:00:24,560
Speaker 1: and walked from you know, the the lobby there, arrived

1303
01:00:24,600 --> 01:00:26,080
Speaker 1: there and had to go straight up and do an

1304
01:00:26,120 --> 01:00:28,840
Speaker 1: interview with Terry Bradshaw and nomeber Ef he's in the

1305
01:00:28,880 --> 01:00:31,920
Speaker 1: booth with and asked me what the first thing I

1306
01:00:32,080 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 1: was gonna do with the money that you know, just um,

1307
01:00:36,760 --> 01:00:38,400
Speaker 1: you know, signed for it, And I told him go

1308
01:00:38,480 --> 01:00:40,600
Speaker 1: by for a coach. I didn't get it that soon,

1309
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:45,720
Speaker 1: but I did because because I really never all big

1310
01:00:45,800 --> 01:00:50,120
Speaker 1: heavy overcoat. I'm from Alabama, So that was a big surprise.

1311
01:00:50,360 --> 01:00:53,200
Speaker 1: Uh you know happen. You know, acclimation part of that

1312
01:00:53,560 --> 01:00:55,480
Speaker 1: was the hardest part of the weather. But you know

1313
01:00:56,280 --> 01:00:59,680
Speaker 1: Ben Daryl with the with the Spider Man suits or

1314
01:00:59,680 --> 01:01:01,880
Speaker 1: whatever I mean, had had you know, I leaned on

1315
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,520
Speaker 1: him for that. Everything that everything that I that I

1316
01:01:05,720 --> 01:01:08,640
Speaker 1: that I pretty much learned outside of my own physical talent.

1317
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 1: Even I learned from Darryl and I'm not ashamed to

1318
01:01:10,800 --> 01:01:14,240
Speaker 1: say it. And and you're from from you know, from

1319
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,760
Speaker 1: playing on sun is, getting you know, being prepared preparing

1320
01:01:17,800 --> 01:01:20,960
Speaker 1: for sun is and and that means you know, mental

1321
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:22,800
Speaker 1: part of it and what to wear kind of thing.

1322
01:01:22,880 --> 01:01:25,320
Speaker 1: Because it was a different situation every weekend. He had

1323
01:01:25,320 --> 01:01:27,520
Speaker 1: already been there, done that kind of thing. So I

1324
01:01:27,600 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: thought it was very smart on myself back then, um

1325
01:01:30,160 --> 01:01:32,240
Speaker 1: to ask. You know a lot of kids don't ask.

1326
01:01:32,400 --> 01:01:34,880
Speaker 1: And I never was afraid to ask him what he

1327
01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:37,400
Speaker 1: thought about Tom run the Subway Fresh Jake hint Line

1328
01:01:37,440 --> 01:01:41,560
Speaker 1: with former Bills linebacker Cornelius Bennett talking about his trade

1329
01:01:42,080 --> 01:01:45,040
Speaker 1: Halloween Trade nineteen eighty seven. There's a lot of talk

1330
01:01:45,080 --> 01:01:47,040
Speaker 1: about that. First Steve has mentioned a couple of times

1331
01:01:47,160 --> 01:01:49,600
Speaker 1: the first game against the Broncos. What do you recall

1332
01:01:49,640 --> 01:01:52,160
Speaker 1: about that? What do you call about always reaction? H

1333
01:01:52,760 --> 01:01:55,240
Speaker 1: Cornelius And if you talk to Elway about that. There

1334
01:01:55,280 --> 01:01:56,800
Speaker 1: were a couple of time outs I think he had

1335
01:01:56,840 --> 01:01:58,400
Speaker 1: to use because I had to figure out what to

1336
01:01:58,440 --> 01:02:01,920
Speaker 1: do with you, right, Yeah, I've never talked to him

1337
01:02:01,920 --> 01:02:04,600
Speaker 1: about it. Um. And then so I running. My first

1338
01:02:04,640 --> 01:02:08,360
Speaker 1: game was against Alway and the last you know, Super

1339
01:02:08,400 --> 01:02:11,280
Speaker 1: Bowl I played again was against Alway, and it was

1340
01:02:11,320 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: two different views. You know. I happened to be in

1341
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:15,600
Speaker 1: my first game and lose to him a fact, you

1342
01:02:15,640 --> 01:02:17,360
Speaker 1: know the second time around one that as far as

1343
01:02:17,400 --> 01:02:19,880
Speaker 1: his last game or whatever. But his eyes I can

1344
01:02:19,960 --> 01:02:23,320
Speaker 1: remember after the first one and me lining up, you

1345
01:02:23,440 --> 01:02:26,120
Speaker 1: know how prob the rest of my career quarterbacks was

1346
01:02:26,520 --> 01:02:28,520
Speaker 1: looking from nine extent while I was fifty five back then,

1347
01:02:28,640 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: but looking for my jersey numbers to see why I

1348
01:02:30,640 --> 01:02:33,680
Speaker 1: was and um and after the sack of the third time,

1349
01:02:33,720 --> 01:02:35,640
Speaker 1: I think it. You know, it was pouring in time

1350
01:02:35,720 --> 01:02:39,240
Speaker 1: out and the offensive lineman because they had no film

1351
01:02:39,320 --> 01:02:42,480
Speaker 1: on me, they had no no film from from from NFL,

1352
01:02:42,680 --> 01:02:44,600
Speaker 1: you know, from pro ranks on me. So I had

1353
01:02:44,720 --> 01:02:47,560
Speaker 1: no idea outside of who I was probab. I'm assuming

1354
01:02:47,560 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: they wouldn't know who I was then the sacond pick

1355
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:51,800
Speaker 1: in the draft. But um, as far as film stud

1356
01:02:51,840 --> 01:02:53,720
Speaker 1: and nobody knew what the hell to do, even the coaches.

1357
01:02:54,000 --> 01:02:56,720
Speaker 1: And they had one of my u I think one

1358
01:02:56,760 --> 01:02:58,560
Speaker 1: of my college coaches on the staff at the time,

1359
01:02:58,600 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: George Inshall, but I'm sure he probably told them that

1360
01:03:02,120 --> 01:03:05,000
Speaker 1: I was, you know, you know, to minding, you know,

1361
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:07,080
Speaker 1: mind like a deer or whatever. But they had no idea,

1362
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,280
Speaker 1: and so it was. It was a fun day. And

1363
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,760
Speaker 1: coming out of that tunnel I get chill sitting there

1364
01:03:12,840 --> 01:03:16,120
Speaker 1: thinking about it. Um, that was the scariest thing, um

1365
01:03:16,600 --> 01:03:20,080
Speaker 1: that I that I remember about that day, not playing football,

1366
01:03:20,120 --> 01:03:21,920
Speaker 1: because that was you know, that was back of nature,

1367
01:03:21,960 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 1: but coming out of that tunnel man to the welcome

1368
01:03:25,000 --> 01:03:27,720
Speaker 1: and every time since then, even when I didn't play

1369
01:03:27,800 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 1: for the Bills, coming out of that tunnel man and

1370
01:03:31,040 --> 01:03:34,040
Speaker 1: being up the last year, uh, you know, getting the

1371
01:03:34,080 --> 01:03:37,520
Speaker 1: game kicked off Sam Gash and I that feeling. You

1372
01:03:37,680 --> 01:03:39,960
Speaker 1: never forget that feeling. And every time I'm up there

1373
01:03:40,000 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 1: and to have that feeling. It's just um, it's it's

1374
01:03:43,040 --> 01:03:44,920
Speaker 1: just like they won. Man, That's what I'm telling you.

1375
01:03:45,000 --> 01:03:47,600
Speaker 1: I'm gushing and right now just you know, kind of

1376
01:03:47,720 --> 01:03:50,840
Speaker 1: biting at the bit to be a part of it again.

1377
01:03:51,040 --> 01:03:52,760
Speaker 1: There's one more game from your first year I want

1378
01:03:52,760 --> 01:03:54,600
Speaker 1: to ask you about. That was the last game on

1379
01:03:54,720 --> 01:03:57,040
Speaker 1: the road of Philadelphia. The Bills lost that game. End

1380
01:03:57,040 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: of the season. You weren't going anywhere, but you had

1381
01:03:59,440 --> 01:04:02,320
Speaker 1: for sat and it seemed like you we were almost

1382
01:04:02,360 --> 01:04:05,000
Speaker 1: making a statement like here I am, I'm coming back

1383
01:04:05,120 --> 01:04:07,240
Speaker 1: next year. And the next year was a playoff here

1384
01:04:07,280 --> 01:04:08,920
Speaker 1: for the Buffalo Bills. Do you remember that last game

1385
01:04:08,920 --> 01:04:13,960
Speaker 1: at the Vet in Philadelphia that year? I do? Um, wow,

1386
01:04:14,040 --> 01:04:18,360
Speaker 1: you know, I don't know, you know that I think

1387
01:04:18,400 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: that that game that's when I really realized that, you know,

1388
01:04:23,760 --> 01:04:26,720
Speaker 1: I was good enough to be really good playing in

1389
01:04:26,760 --> 01:04:29,160
Speaker 1: the NFL. Not good enough to play in the NFL,

1390
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:33,080
Speaker 1: to be really good playing in NFL. Um to say

1391
01:04:33,120 --> 01:04:34,800
Speaker 1: that was my coming out part, I wouldn't say it

1392
01:04:34,880 --> 01:04:38,840
Speaker 1: like that, but I just something clicked, um that and

1393
01:04:39,240 --> 01:04:41,640
Speaker 1: then worked well that day and pretty much for me

1394
01:04:41,920 --> 01:04:45,400
Speaker 1: the rest of my career, you know. And what's a

1395
01:04:45,560 --> 01:04:48,880
Speaker 1: very special day. You don't get those that often, you know,

1396
01:04:49,520 --> 01:04:51,800
Speaker 1: to to where everything goes right. You know, you had

1397
01:04:51,880 --> 01:04:56,520
Speaker 1: four facts and uh Fama calls Farma farmer recovers about

1398
01:04:56,720 --> 01:04:59,760
Speaker 1: seventeen eighteen tackles and I don't know, maybe wanted to

1399
01:05:00,040 --> 01:05:01,920
Speaker 1: as defended or something like that, but it was a

1400
01:05:02,040 --> 01:05:05,480
Speaker 1: fair special day and um, and that's why they brought

1401
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:07,200
Speaker 1: me there. That was you know, that's just how I

1402
01:05:07,280 --> 01:05:09,080
Speaker 1: went into the game. I tried to do it every week.

1403
01:05:09,120 --> 01:05:10,760
Speaker 1: It didn't happen all the time, but that was my

1404
01:05:10,920 --> 01:05:14,480
Speaker 1: mind there, John, every that was my mindset. I want

1405
01:05:14,560 --> 01:05:16,280
Speaker 1: you know, I wanted to punt. I wanted to kich

1406
01:05:16,320 --> 01:05:18,840
Speaker 1: this like that time. My whole football career growing up.

1407
01:05:18,960 --> 01:05:23,080
Speaker 1: You know, I never wanted to be stationary. Um. And

1408
01:05:23,440 --> 01:05:26,240
Speaker 1: I always thought, just like when I was in high school,

1409
01:05:26,280 --> 01:05:27,720
Speaker 1: and if the coach called me and put me in

1410
01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:32,280
Speaker 1: that receiver, tight end, running back, partner, kickers, quarterback, and

1411
01:05:32,400 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: I could be good enough to be one of the

1412
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:36,320
Speaker 1: best doing it. I was, you know, in high school,

1413
01:05:36,360 --> 01:05:39,600
Speaker 1: and I felt that I could do it. Um if

1414
01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,640
Speaker 1: they ever called on nice to book coach leaving from

1415
01:05:41,680 --> 01:05:43,320
Speaker 1: time to time believe it and not to ask him.

1416
01:05:43,400 --> 01:05:45,160
Speaker 1: Let me play tight ends. I wanted to play tight

1417
01:05:45,280 --> 01:05:48,200
Speaker 1: ends so bad in the NFL, but I thought I

1418
01:05:48,600 --> 01:05:51,880
Speaker 1: could see what you see, and guys today, I really

1419
01:05:52,200 --> 01:05:55,200
Speaker 1: thought that was feeling my natural position. And people say,

1420
01:05:55,240 --> 01:05:57,600
Speaker 1: how can I say that, But I really do, I

1421
01:05:57,760 --> 01:06:00,280
Speaker 1: really do think and I still think that way. I

1422
01:06:00,400 --> 01:06:02,040
Speaker 1: thought I had a great set of hands, I mean,

1423
01:06:02,720 --> 01:06:04,840
Speaker 1: right a routes and blocking all of that. I thought

1424
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:06,960
Speaker 1: I thought that could be pretty good at doing it. Well.

1425
01:06:07,000 --> 01:06:08,919
Speaker 1: Corney's been you were one of the great linebackers you'd

1426
01:06:08,920 --> 01:06:10,880
Speaker 1: ever suited up for the Buffalo Bills. I appreciate you

1427
01:06:11,000 --> 01:06:14,000
Speaker 1: coming on. Congratulations on being a part of the top

1428
01:06:14,080 --> 01:06:17,200
Speaker 1: ten trades of all times, one of the great trades

1429
01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:19,360
Speaker 1: in Buffalo Bills history. You were the centerpiece of it,

1430
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:21,120
Speaker 1: and we looked through and we kind of dissected the

1431
01:06:21,200 --> 01:06:24,560
Speaker 1: pieces before you came on, and you're no doubt you

1432
01:06:24,640 --> 01:06:26,320
Speaker 1: were the crown jewel of the entire thing and that

1433
01:06:26,400 --> 01:06:29,280
Speaker 1: includes it. Eric Dickerson, the thanks for coming on. Thanks

1434
01:06:29,320 --> 01:06:30,760
Speaker 1: for a couple of minutes and coming on with us.

1435
01:06:30,800 --> 01:06:33,320
Speaker 1: I appreciate it. Yeah. I don't let Eric get that,

1436
01:06:33,440 --> 01:06:35,360
Speaker 1: but I hit the number one for you them all

1437
01:06:35,440 --> 01:06:41,160
Speaker 1: time probably is Yeah. Thanks Bis thank you you care man.

1438
01:06:41,440 --> 01:06:43,920
Speaker 1: Corney spent a part of that huge trade thirty one

1439
01:06:44,000 --> 01:06:47,439
Speaker 1: years ago. On Halloween, October thirty first, nineteen eighty seven,

1440
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:50,520
Speaker 1: Biscuits joined us on the subway. First take hotline, subway,

1441
01:06:50,560 --> 01:06:53,800
Speaker 1: eat fresh heat, talking about having hands and listen, you

1442
01:06:53,920 --> 01:06:57,480
Speaker 1: see tough. It's a tough to impress NFL football players.

1443
01:06:57,920 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: Rarely doesn't happen, you know, when guys go hey, did

1444
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:04,280
Speaker 1: you see that? It happened a lot, even just on

1445
01:07:04,360 --> 01:07:06,360
Speaker 1: our practice field. We had like five Hall of famers

1446
01:07:06,480 --> 01:07:08,240
Speaker 1: run around the field all the time, right so Thurma

1447
01:07:08,280 --> 01:07:10,080
Speaker 1: would do something, Andre would do something. I remember we

1448
01:07:10,160 --> 01:07:12,280
Speaker 1: were playing in a seven on seven. It was a

1449
01:07:12,360 --> 01:07:15,440
Speaker 1: team and it was actually a team drill, and the

1450
01:07:15,560 --> 01:07:18,880
Speaker 1: quarterback dropped back and hit a seam right down there.

1451
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,160
Speaker 1: I don't think it was Jim, might have been Frank

1452
01:07:20,240 --> 01:07:22,880
Speaker 1: Ryk or maybe Gail Gilbert or somebody threw one right

1453
01:07:22,920 --> 01:07:24,840
Speaker 1: down the seam and Cornie's Ben was running with his

1454
01:07:24,920 --> 01:07:26,720
Speaker 1: back to the ball. He looked back, just caught a

1455
01:07:26,760 --> 01:07:30,760
Speaker 1: glimpse of it, reached behind his behind him with his

1456
01:07:30,960 --> 01:07:35,600
Speaker 1: right hand and one hand had just stuck like speared

1457
01:07:35,680 --> 01:07:37,959
Speaker 1: the ball with one hand, grabbed it and then started

1458
01:07:38,000 --> 01:07:39,960
Speaker 1: running the other way. He was going the other way

1459
01:07:40,040 --> 01:07:42,480
Speaker 1: before anybody else knew he'd even picked off the football.

1460
01:07:43,200 --> 01:07:45,480
Speaker 1: Stuff like that happened, and it was just like another

1461
01:07:45,560 --> 01:07:48,120
Speaker 1: day in the life at practice. But if you tried

1462
01:07:48,200 --> 01:07:50,280
Speaker 1: to show people and explain what it was, it was

1463
01:07:50,400 --> 01:07:53,560
Speaker 1: so impressive. And he says he could have played tight end.

1464
01:07:54,200 --> 01:07:57,040
Speaker 1: It's true. Yeah, it's true. Not only could he run

1465
01:07:57,120 --> 01:08:01,400
Speaker 1: faster than most of him, he could catch anything. Yeah, yeah,

1466
01:08:01,480 --> 01:08:03,440
Speaker 1: he was. He was quite the athlete. And that that

1467
01:08:03,600 --> 01:08:05,440
Speaker 1: game that he had that you mentioned his last game

1468
01:08:05,480 --> 01:08:07,600
Speaker 1: of the NINETEENES rookie season, the Eagles game. It was

1469
01:08:07,600 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: one of those games where we were it was we

1470
01:08:09,320 --> 01:08:11,919
Speaker 1: won that game. I think we lost that game. Okay,

1471
01:08:12,040 --> 01:08:13,240
Speaker 1: so we were in it and we were kind of

1472
01:08:14,120 --> 01:08:15,720
Speaker 1: you know, it was a tough game and we're in

1473
01:08:15,800 --> 01:08:17,760
Speaker 1: it and co scoring games right, low scoring, and I

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01:08:17,800 --> 01:08:19,640
Speaker 1: didn't really realize how it was going and stuff. Then

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01:08:19,680 --> 01:08:22,519
Speaker 1: after the game people started talking about you, you know,

1476
01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,519
Speaker 1: Biscuity had that, and you're right. I saw the number.

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01:08:24,600 --> 01:08:25,920
Speaker 1: I was like, oh my gosh, it's right. He did

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01:08:26,000 --> 01:08:29,040
Speaker 1: do all. You know, it was amazing. He dominated that

1479
01:08:29,200 --> 01:08:31,320
Speaker 1: NFL football game. And it's a game that we lost,

1480
01:08:31,439 --> 01:08:35,280
Speaker 1: But um, that really was a statement game for him. Yeah,

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01:08:35,400 --> 01:08:38,080
Speaker 1: and you know I oftentimes writers will talk about it

1482
01:08:38,160 --> 01:08:39,840
Speaker 1: was that game of statement. Was this game of statement?

1483
01:08:40,240 --> 01:08:43,040
Speaker 1: That game was a Cornelia Spenett statement. As I said

1484
01:08:43,080 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 1: to him, that game felt like he was saying, Okay,

1485
01:08:45,560 --> 01:08:48,000
Speaker 1: one year, half a year down, I'm coming back next

1486
01:08:48,080 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 1: year and everything's changed. And it was changed. I mean,

1487
01:08:51,120 --> 01:08:53,840
Speaker 1: you were in the eighty eight. You're a playoff team

1488
01:08:53,960 --> 01:08:56,320
Speaker 1: right when the AC is Yeah. The next year we

1489
01:08:56,400 --> 01:08:59,240
Speaker 1: were twelve and four, went to the championship FFC Championship

1490
01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,639
Speaker 1: game in Cincinnati, and if it wasn't for a Chip

1491
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,840
Speaker 1: low Mill or Washington Redskins doing Coffin up right, it

1492
01:09:04,880 --> 01:09:08,120
Speaker 1: would again game would have been in Buffalo. So, um,

1493
01:09:08,720 --> 01:09:11,320
Speaker 1: there you have it. Well, Corney's trade obviously a big one,

1494
01:09:11,360 --> 01:09:13,720
Speaker 1: and it's part of our discussion for the day, and

1495
01:09:13,840 --> 01:09:17,760
Speaker 1: it all centers around the top ten trades in franchise history.

1496
01:09:17,840 --> 01:09:20,040
Speaker 1: It's part of the show that's coming up tonight on

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01:09:20,320 --> 01:09:24,120
Speaker 1: MSG eight o'clock, the Bill's Top Ten series Tonight. It

1498
01:09:24,240 --> 01:09:27,519
Speaker 1: gets started eight o'clock on MSG. The top ten trades

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01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:31,040
Speaker 1: in Bill's history. If the Bennet trade is not number one,

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01:09:31,320 --> 01:09:35,080
Speaker 1: that's an upset Steve, Right, Yeah, I think that's got him,

1501
01:09:35,160 --> 01:09:37,760
Speaker 1: isn't it. I Mean, that's right. I picked it as

1502
01:09:38,280 --> 01:09:39,519
Speaker 1: But then you know, we got a lot of them,

1503
01:09:40,080 --> 01:09:42,400
Speaker 1: you know, down the line, depending on where this goes

1504
01:09:42,479 --> 01:09:44,280
Speaker 1: and how good you know they play the rest of

1505
01:09:44,280 --> 01:09:46,720
Speaker 1: the way. A lot of people, particularly in this you know,

1506
01:09:46,800 --> 01:09:48,880
Speaker 1: we all kind of prisoners the moment. But the shady

1507
01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:54,400
Speaker 1: deals has turned out to be really lucrative for the

1508
01:09:54,439 --> 01:09:57,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. Yes, that guys, he's been awesome for this team.

1509
01:09:58,240 --> 01:10:00,519
Speaker 1: And you know they gave up key. That was a

1510
01:10:00,560 --> 01:10:04,479
Speaker 1: straight across trade for Kiko Alonso and that you know,

1511
01:10:04,520 --> 01:10:06,080
Speaker 1: you look back on it now, is like, what were

1512
01:10:06,080 --> 01:10:09,479
Speaker 1: they doing? And man, oh man, what a what a difference?

1513
01:10:10,439 --> 01:10:12,479
Speaker 1: Could you imagine where their offense would have been without

1514
01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:15,040
Speaker 1: Lashawn McCoy the last three or four years? Three years,

1515
01:10:15,160 --> 01:10:17,559
Speaker 1: three years. It's that he's been amazing since he's been here.

1516
01:10:17,560 --> 01:10:20,280
Speaker 1: And they got him for a linebacker who's switched since

1517
01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:24,439
Speaker 1: switched teams again, So a journeyman linebacker for one of

1518
01:10:24,439 --> 01:10:26,360
Speaker 1: the elite running backs of his day that could be

1519
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:28,840
Speaker 1: in his rounding out his career, that could be actually

1520
01:10:28,960 --> 01:10:30,759
Speaker 1: end up in the Hall of fame for Shady McCoy.

1521
01:10:30,880 --> 01:10:35,080
Speaker 1: If he gets twelve thousand yards, which he could, he's

1522
01:10:35,120 --> 01:10:38,960
Speaker 1: gonna get in. He's gonna get in. He's gonna get in. Yeah,

1523
01:10:39,200 --> 01:10:40,840
Speaker 1: if he can get it, you know, have another year

1524
01:10:40,880 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: and a half, two years like he's had here in

1525
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:47,120
Speaker 1: the past couple. There's no I think he is. What's

1526
01:10:47,120 --> 01:10:50,040
Speaker 1: your favorite trade in Buffalo Bill's history? Give us a call,

1527
01:10:50,120 --> 01:10:52,000
Speaker 1: Let us know what you think where you can tweet

1528
01:10:52,040 --> 01:10:53,920
Speaker 1: it in at Twitter at one Bill's five eight h

1529
01:10:53,960 --> 01:10:55,560
Speaker 1: three oh five fifty to the number to call with

1530
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:59,439
Speaker 1: your calls or from outside Buffalo one eight five fifty

1531
01:10:59,479 --> 01:11:02,880
Speaker 1: two five fifty Buzz is calling from inside Buffalo Buzz.

1532
01:11:02,960 --> 01:11:05,800
Speaker 1: You're on the air. Go ahead, Hey, good afternoon, guys.

1533
01:11:05,840 --> 01:11:09,120
Speaker 1: Thanks for taking my call. Sure, hey, you know, the

1534
01:11:09,160 --> 01:11:11,439
Speaker 1: big thing about the Cornelius spend a trade was you know,

1535
01:11:11,840 --> 01:11:15,439
Speaker 1: is awesome and you know Shady straight up for key call.

1536
01:11:15,560 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean that was that was a deal too. But

1537
01:11:17,600 --> 01:11:21,680
Speaker 1: the thing that gets overlooked sometimes that Thurman was the

1538
01:11:21,800 --> 01:11:25,200
Speaker 1: second round pick the year after when we didn't have

1539
01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: a first round pick. And don't tell Thurman I said

1540
01:11:28,200 --> 01:11:30,559
Speaker 1: this because you'll get he'll get mad. But I mean

1541
01:11:30,640 --> 01:11:32,439
Speaker 1: the build might have passed on him if they actually

1542
01:11:32,479 --> 01:11:34,240
Speaker 1: had a first round pick. You know, we don't know,

1543
01:11:34,520 --> 01:11:36,439
Speaker 1: we don't know him. Think thankfully it didn't happen, so

1544
01:11:36,560 --> 01:11:38,800
Speaker 1: that I think that was just a huge part of

1545
01:11:38,840 --> 01:11:41,920
Speaker 1: it to actually net Thurman after the trade goes down

1546
01:11:42,000 --> 01:11:44,840
Speaker 1: for biscuits. Yeah, that was That's an enormous part of it.

1547
01:11:44,960 --> 01:11:48,160
Speaker 1: And Thurman was the Bill's first pick of the nineteen

1548
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:51,080
Speaker 1: eighty eight draft, and as we all heard, he that's

1549
01:11:51,080 --> 01:11:53,720
Speaker 1: the reason he wore number thirty four because thirty two

1550
01:11:53,760 --> 01:11:57,080
Speaker 1: teen or thirty four picks is where he went, second

1551
01:11:57,120 --> 01:12:00,200
Speaker 1: pick of the third, second round. And he was says

1552
01:12:00,200 --> 01:12:02,200
Speaker 1: that's because all those other teams passed over him once.

1553
01:12:02,439 --> 01:12:06,640
Speaker 1: So he was he wore that chip on it. He

1554
01:12:06,760 --> 01:12:09,280
Speaker 1: still wears that chip on it. He wore that chip

1555
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,960
Speaker 1: all the way to the Hall of Fame. But you

1556
01:12:12,320 --> 01:12:16,639
Speaker 1: imagine that in six month gap, you get Cornelius Bending

1557
01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,680
Speaker 1: on your team and then you get Thurman Thomas in

1558
01:12:19,760 --> 01:12:21,680
Speaker 1: the draft the next year. That's that's pretty good. We

1559
01:12:21,720 --> 01:12:23,880
Speaker 1: also we're also getting corrected. We've been talking about these

1560
01:12:23,920 --> 01:12:26,000
Speaker 1: trades and you go back into the sixties, it's hard

1561
01:12:26,040 --> 01:12:27,840
Speaker 1: to keep track of it. Joe bad One of our

1562
01:12:28,000 --> 01:12:32,519
Speaker 1: listeners corrects us the two excellent trades for the Bills.

1563
01:12:32,680 --> 01:12:35,320
Speaker 1: Dennis Shaw went to Saint Louis for a moderate shot,

1564
01:12:35,360 --> 01:12:37,719
Speaker 1: and then the Bills traded Walt Patusky to Saint Louis

1565
01:12:37,760 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: for a second round pick, and the Bills drafted with

1566
01:12:40,160 --> 01:12:44,439
Speaker 1: that second round pick Joe Devlin. So there's a little yeah.

1567
01:12:44,479 --> 01:12:47,439
Speaker 1: And then also he'll also argue the nineteen seventy eight

1568
01:12:47,479 --> 01:12:49,679
Speaker 1: trade of OJ to San Francisco may be more important

1569
01:12:49,720 --> 01:12:53,800
Speaker 1: because the Bills get in nineteen seventy eight second round

1570
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,840
Speaker 1: Scott Hutchinson and third Danny Fulton, and seventy nine the

1571
01:12:56,920 --> 01:12:59,880
Speaker 1: first Tom Kuzino, and in the seventy nine the four

1572
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,920
Speaker 1: Kent Johnson and nineteen eighty second Joe Cribbs. So there's

1573
01:13:03,960 --> 01:13:05,680
Speaker 1: a lot of trades that went into a lot of names.

1574
01:13:05,800 --> 01:13:10,839
Speaker 1: Danny Fulton, Tom Kuzano, Ken Johnson, Joe Cribbs, and Kuzano

1575
01:13:10,920 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: and Cribs made the deal. And without those deals, the

1576
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:17,080
Speaker 1: Bills don't get Jim Kelly ultimately, So it's all intertwined.

1577
01:13:17,120 --> 01:13:19,200
Speaker 1: And you think about a league back then, and I

1578
01:13:19,280 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: remember this, they rarely ever happened. Remember, I mean, nobody

1579
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:26,080
Speaker 1: ever traded players because they didn't. They had their rights

1580
01:13:26,120 --> 01:13:28,680
Speaker 1: in perpetuity. They could keep these guys around forever. So

1581
01:13:28,840 --> 01:13:31,800
Speaker 1: draft picks weren't quite as valuable as they are now,

1582
01:13:33,120 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: but the players were. And it was rare that you

1583
01:13:36,960 --> 01:13:39,080
Speaker 1: with a switching head coaches and stuff, that you'd get

1584
01:13:39,120 --> 01:13:41,080
Speaker 1: these veteran players. They head coaches and these guys. New

1585
01:13:41,120 --> 01:13:42,760
Speaker 1: coaches coming in saying I can get the most out

1586
01:13:42,800 --> 01:13:44,320
Speaker 1: of that guy, or I can get the most out

1587
01:13:44,360 --> 01:13:46,400
Speaker 1: of this guy. So they wouldn't trade these players because

1588
01:13:46,439 --> 01:13:48,800
Speaker 1: they their rights never ran out. They didn't have they

1589
01:13:48,800 --> 01:13:51,280
Speaker 1: couldn't go anywhere else to play anyway. So it's pretty

1590
01:13:51,320 --> 01:13:53,880
Speaker 1: interesting that all these trades actually happened in a time

1591
01:13:53,920 --> 01:13:57,080
Speaker 1: in an era in professional football where trades weren't that common.

1592
01:13:58,160 --> 01:13:59,920
Speaker 1: A couple of tweets from the Tweet Sheet, and Rob

1593
01:14:00,240 --> 01:14:03,160
Speaker 1: Lewis says, I don't have a favorite trade moment, but

1594
01:14:03,280 --> 01:14:05,719
Speaker 1: the first one I remember is when they got Drew Bledsoe.

1595
01:14:06,200 --> 01:14:09,000
Speaker 1: Two thousand and two seems like yesterday to some of us. Yeah.

1596
01:14:09,160 --> 01:14:13,719
Speaker 1: Bledsoe came from New England Division rivals to the Buffalo Bills.

1597
01:14:15,400 --> 01:14:17,280
Speaker 1: It's been a couple of years here, two through oh

1598
01:14:17,360 --> 01:14:20,960
Speaker 1: four from Mafia man, Shady continues to carve out his

1599
01:14:21,240 --> 01:14:24,920
Speaker 1: legacy despite stacked boxes every game, Kiko struggles to stay

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01:14:24,960 --> 01:14:27,559
Speaker 1: relevant in the NFL. Tough not to pick this trade,

1601
01:14:27,960 --> 01:14:30,280
Speaker 1: and that's that's a good argument. It's lopsided, There's no

1602
01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:33,080
Speaker 1: doubt about it. It's lopsided at this point in history,

1603
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:37,760
Speaker 1: and I don't know how it's going to change. And

1604
01:14:37,880 --> 01:14:41,400
Speaker 1: then you got, uh, Nick Blake tweets in the Kelly

1605
01:14:41,479 --> 01:14:43,400
Speaker 1: trade was my favorite, but the Bennett trade has to

1606
01:14:43,520 --> 01:14:45,560
Speaker 1: rank right up there with it. Two big pieces of

1607
01:14:45,600 --> 01:14:49,000
Speaker 1: the greatest NFL team in history, well the greatest NFL

1608
01:14:49,040 --> 01:14:51,400
Speaker 1: team certainly one of the great Buffalo Bill teams in history,

1609
01:14:51,479 --> 01:14:56,040
Speaker 1: that's no question about it. But that you're right. You

1610
01:14:56,160 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: think about that Shady McCoy trade and how different the

1611
01:15:01,840 --> 01:15:04,519
Speaker 1: Bill's offense would have looked the last three years without it. Yeah,

1612
01:15:04,600 --> 01:15:06,439
Speaker 1: I mean it's unbelievable to think about. I mean the

1613
01:15:07,240 --> 01:15:09,599
Speaker 1: league in rushing. Yeah, two of the two those two

1614
01:15:09,600 --> 01:15:11,600
Speaker 1: of those three years, they led league in rushing and

1615
01:15:11,760 --> 01:15:15,360
Speaker 1: that you know, as a result of that trade. And

1616
01:15:15,720 --> 01:15:18,160
Speaker 1: uh yeah, that's that's a hard one to be too.

1617
01:15:18,200 --> 01:15:19,800
Speaker 1: That's gotta make the lid. Doesn't that make the top ten?

1618
01:15:19,880 --> 01:15:22,280
Speaker 1: List tonight. I would guess it's got to be. I

1619
01:15:22,280 --> 01:15:23,720
Speaker 1: don't know the I can't think of the order. It's

1620
01:15:23,760 --> 01:15:25,360
Speaker 1: gotta be on there. It's gotta be gotta be on

1621
01:15:25,400 --> 01:15:27,160
Speaker 1: the We'll find out tonight. You can find out tonight

1622
01:15:27,240 --> 01:15:30,840
Speaker 1: eight o'clock. MSG. Bill's Top Ten series returns with the

1623
01:15:30,920 --> 01:15:34,360
Speaker 1: Top ten trades Enfranchise History. That's got to be on there.

1624
01:15:34,920 --> 01:15:37,680
Speaker 1: Calvin Shephard for Jerry Hughes has got to be on

1625
01:15:37,760 --> 01:15:40,120
Speaker 1: the top ten. I would think obviously the Bennett trade.

1626
01:15:40,280 --> 01:15:42,560
Speaker 1: If it's not number one, there ought to be an investigation.

1627
01:15:42,760 --> 01:15:44,599
Speaker 1: We'll talk more about this and getting your thoughts. What's

1628
01:15:44,640 --> 01:15:47,320
Speaker 1: your favorite trade in Bill's History. Give us a call

1629
01:15:47,439 --> 01:15:49,000
Speaker 1: or tweeted in. We're gonna take a break and come

1630
01:15:49,040 --> 01:15:51,720
Speaker 1: back with more. John Murphy, Steve Tasker, One Bills Live

1631
01:15:51,840 --> 01:16:07,320
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. We're

1632
01:16:07,360 --> 01:16:10,040
Speaker 1: back John Murphy's cheef. Tasker. It is beautiful outside. It

1633
01:16:10,080 --> 01:16:11,759
Speaker 1: just took a look, Steve. If in case you were wondering,

1634
01:16:12,560 --> 01:16:15,200
Speaker 1: want Courtney Spenett was great. We got maniche Meta coming

1635
01:16:15,280 --> 01:16:17,320
Speaker 1: up at two to talk about the Jets. Huh yeah.

1636
01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,320
Speaker 1: He wrote some stuff about Sam Darnold and the work

1637
01:16:19,400 --> 01:16:21,599
Speaker 1: he did. We had Josh Allen on earlier in the show.

1638
01:16:21,640 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: You should pick up and go back and listen to

1639
01:16:23,520 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: that interview because as an impressive young guy, maniche Meta

1640
01:16:28,080 --> 01:16:31,679
Speaker 1: is coming on. He talked with Sam Darneld. Now, Sam

1641
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:34,720
Speaker 1: Darnold and Josh Allen both used Jordan Palmer as a

1642
01:16:34,800 --> 01:16:36,960
Speaker 1: quarterback coach in the off season. They spent some time together,

1643
01:16:37,040 --> 01:16:41,040
Speaker 1: and we asked Sam, I'm Josh Allen about his time

1644
01:16:41,600 --> 01:16:44,920
Speaker 1: with Sam Darneld and they went down to Florida to

1645
01:16:45,000 --> 01:16:47,240
Speaker 1: visit Bill Parcels in the off season. It's just as

1646
01:16:47,360 --> 01:16:49,519
Speaker 1: they're they're both represented, I guess by the same guy.

1647
01:16:49,520 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: And he took him down to meet and just kind

1648
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,320
Speaker 1: of talk with Bill Parcels and get some sage advice

1649
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:55,640
Speaker 1: from one of the old guys with a lot of

1650
01:16:55,680 --> 01:16:58,680
Speaker 1: credibility for young guys, telling them some stuff. And so

1651
01:16:58,840 --> 01:17:02,400
Speaker 1: Sam Darnold obviously the Jets first pick of the draft

1652
01:17:03,280 --> 01:17:05,519
Speaker 1: and working hard over there. Miniche Meta is the beat

1653
01:17:05,600 --> 01:17:13,240
Speaker 1: writer for the New York Daily News and Jets Insider,

1654
01:17:13,320 --> 01:17:15,760
Speaker 1: so you know, it's it'll be fun to talk with

1655
01:17:15,920 --> 01:17:18,720
Speaker 1: him about how Sam Darnold's going down there, and yeah,

1656
01:17:18,880 --> 01:17:20,439
Speaker 1: some of the stuff that they're talking about, because I'm

1657
01:17:20,520 --> 01:17:22,679
Speaker 1: sure a lot of it is similar to what Josh

1658
01:17:22,760 --> 01:17:25,080
Speaker 1: Allen's going through here. I want to know from you

1659
01:17:25,280 --> 01:17:27,920
Speaker 1: your favorite trade in Bill's history. Give us a call

1660
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:30,479
Speaker 1: eight oh three oh five fifty and toll free one

1661
01:17:30,640 --> 01:17:34,040
Speaker 1: eight eight five fifty two five fifty. Dave and Cheektowaga

1662
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:36,920
Speaker 1: go ahead, Dami are on the air. Yeah, guys, how

1663
01:17:36,920 --> 01:17:38,439
Speaker 1: are we doing? I'll be real brief is on the

1664
01:17:38,520 --> 01:17:43,479
Speaker 1: lunch break. Frank Lewis, we're Paul Seymour, the famous gout

1665
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,280
Speaker 1: to trade. And the reason why I say that is

1666
01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:47,640
Speaker 1: my brother and I were to friend's wedding in Pittsburgh

1667
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:50,320
Speaker 1: and this particular weekend, the wedding's over, we go to

1668
01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:52,519
Speaker 1: a bar in a hotel. We run into Lynn Swan

1669
01:17:52,840 --> 01:17:55,080
Speaker 1: started shooting the breeze. When Swan found out we were

1670
01:17:55,160 --> 01:17:58,000
Speaker 1: Big Bills fans, he turns from my brother and I says, oh, yeah,

1671
01:17:58,040 --> 01:18:00,559
Speaker 1: you guys stole Frank Lewis from us for Paul Seymour.

1672
01:18:00,600 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: And that thing was gout trade, gout, g g out.

1673
01:18:06,040 --> 01:18:10,360
Speaker 1: Paul Seymour had developed the gout right the bill that trade.

1674
01:18:10,479 --> 01:18:13,519
Speaker 1: You're right, I do remember that at that time Lewis

1675
01:18:13,640 --> 01:18:15,960
Speaker 1: was one of the top receivers for Pittsburgh. Yeah, and

1676
01:18:16,040 --> 01:18:18,439
Speaker 1: he was a great receiver here too. Listen was basically

1677
01:18:18,479 --> 01:18:21,200
Speaker 1: a steel in that time frame because Pittsburgh didn't do

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01:18:21,280 --> 01:18:24,639
Speaker 1: anything about it as far as checking him out physically.

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01:18:25,080 --> 01:18:27,560
Speaker 1: And I guess right after the trade that's when he

1680
01:18:27,640 --> 01:18:29,920
Speaker 1: developed the gout. I was just reading this. Yeah, August

1681
01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:32,879
Speaker 1: seventy eight, Steelers traded Lewis to the Bills for Paul Seymour.

1682
01:18:33,320 --> 01:18:35,680
Speaker 1: Seymour was returned by the Steelers when he did not

1683
01:18:35,840 --> 01:18:38,800
Speaker 1: pass their physical and Lewis stayed with the Bills even

1684
01:18:38,840 --> 01:18:41,400
Speaker 1: though they returned him, and Steelers ended up getting no

1685
01:18:41,479 --> 01:18:44,880
Speaker 1: compensation in the trade. That's a big trade for the Bills. Well,

1686
01:18:44,920 --> 01:18:46,800
Speaker 1: it didn't trade anything for him. They didn't even trade

1687
01:18:46,880 --> 01:18:50,320
Speaker 1: the trade off that they traded nothing. Frank Lewis, you

1688
01:18:50,400 --> 01:18:52,519
Speaker 1: gotta go, Dave, you gotta go back to work. Tell

1689
01:18:52,560 --> 01:18:54,360
Speaker 1: us you remember Frank Lewis You ever his No, I

1690
01:18:54,400 --> 01:18:55,920
Speaker 1: mean I know the name, but I've never met him.

1691
01:18:56,200 --> 01:18:58,240
Speaker 1: What was good about Frank Lewis, Dave, can you tell

1692
01:18:58,280 --> 01:19:00,200
Speaker 1: Steve about that? Because I remember how good he was

1693
01:19:01,280 --> 01:19:03,120
Speaker 1: at that time. I think Frank Lewis might have been

1694
01:19:03,160 --> 01:19:05,120
Speaker 1: their number two or number three receiver. I mean at

1695
01:19:05,160 --> 01:19:07,519
Speaker 1: that time. Pittsburgh, of course, is just in the threshold

1696
01:19:07,560 --> 01:19:10,320
Speaker 1: of being great, and they had the development of Swan

1697
01:19:10,400 --> 01:19:13,040
Speaker 1: who was there I think Stalwarth and Lewis, and for

1698
01:19:13,120 --> 01:19:15,519
Speaker 1: them to give up Lewis would have been like what

1699
01:19:15,640 --> 01:19:19,479
Speaker 1: they just recently did with Martavius Bryant, basically, even though

1700
01:19:19,560 --> 01:19:22,360
Speaker 1: Bryant had more issues than Frank Lewis. But Frank Lewis

1701
01:19:22,400 --> 01:19:24,280
Speaker 1: was a very steady receiver for the Bills for quite

1702
01:19:24,320 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: some time. He was good six years. I'm just looking

1703
01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:27,920
Speaker 1: at the numbers. He was really good six years with

1704
01:19:28,000 --> 01:19:30,080
Speaker 1: the Bills, Frank Lewis, and he was in his thirties.

1705
01:19:30,120 --> 01:19:33,160
Speaker 1: He was thirty one when they traded for him in

1706
01:19:33,360 --> 01:19:36,920
Speaker 1: nineteen seventeen eight. His first year with the Bills forty

1707
01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:40,920
Speaker 1: one catches than fifty four catches, forty catches seventy catches

1708
01:19:40,960 --> 01:19:43,439
Speaker 1: in nineteen eighty one, which was a lot in nineteen

1709
01:19:43,439 --> 01:19:45,519
Speaker 1: eighty one. Seven, it's a lot now. Then twenty eight

1710
01:19:45,600 --> 01:19:47,840
Speaker 1: thirty six he kind of tailed off. He was good,

1711
01:19:48,040 --> 01:19:51,439
Speaker 1: and he and when Jerry Butler arrived around that era,

1712
01:19:51,880 --> 01:19:55,120
Speaker 1: the two of them were tough out, don't you think Dave.

1713
01:19:55,160 --> 01:19:58,120
Speaker 1: I mean those two together were really good. Well, you

1714
01:19:58,200 --> 01:20:01,200
Speaker 1: think of all the great games Butler had and went

1715
01:20:01,240 --> 01:20:03,240
Speaker 1: on to a pretty decent career as a basically an

1716
01:20:03,280 --> 01:20:05,040
Speaker 1: underrated Bill's receiver when you look at some of the

1717
01:20:05,040 --> 01:20:08,240
Speaker 1: other receivers we've had in the past. But Lewis was

1718
01:20:08,360 --> 01:20:10,839
Speaker 1: just one of those guys that was just a worker.

1719
01:20:11,000 --> 01:20:13,080
Speaker 1: He came in, he did he kept his wife and

1720
01:20:13,160 --> 01:20:15,280
Speaker 1: he went out there and did the job. Good player,

1721
01:20:15,360 --> 01:20:17,160
Speaker 1: good pro. Thanks very much. That's a good one. I

1722
01:20:17,200 --> 01:20:19,639
Speaker 1: hope that's on the top ten list. Frank Lewis from

1723
01:20:19,640 --> 01:20:23,439
Speaker 1: phil season trading getting a good receiver like that for nothing,

1724
01:20:24,000 --> 01:20:28,400
Speaker 1: trading it for nothing? That's yeah, Okay, it's in the conversation,

1725
01:20:28,600 --> 01:20:31,840
Speaker 1: right one. Work all on miss John and Burlington, Ontario's

1726
01:20:31,840 --> 01:20:33,280
Speaker 1: on the line, John, go ahead, you're on the air.

1727
01:20:34,000 --> 01:20:37,960
Speaker 1: Oh Hi John, Hi Steve, how you do good? Thank you? Good? Um?

1728
01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:40,600
Speaker 1: I just wanted to I had thrown all about that.

1729
01:20:40,720 --> 01:20:45,200
Speaker 1: Tony Kuzno, Tom Couzino, Tom Cusino, pardon me, Yeah, he

1730
01:20:45,320 --> 01:20:48,000
Speaker 1: went to Montreal, didn't he? Yes, he did Montreal Alouettes

1731
01:20:48,240 --> 01:20:50,439
Speaker 1: instead of playing for Buffalo. Did you call him? Yeah,

1732
01:20:50,439 --> 01:20:54,040
Speaker 1: I'm from Burlington, so I'm right next door to Hamilton. Um,

1733
01:20:54,960 --> 01:20:58,599
Speaker 1: you know Tiger Cats. Sure, anyway, he didn't I didn't

1734
01:20:58,680 --> 01:21:00,640
Speaker 1: understand this, But did you say he didn't want to

1735
01:21:00,640 --> 01:21:02,600
Speaker 1: play in Buffalo? Was that the reason he came to

1736
01:21:02,680 --> 01:21:04,840
Speaker 1: the CFL. Yeah, I don't know if it was money

1737
01:21:04,920 --> 01:21:06,800
Speaker 1: or just uh, it might have just been didn't want

1738
01:21:06,800 --> 01:21:08,920
Speaker 1: to play in bud just been money or whatever. But

1739
01:21:09,040 --> 01:21:11,719
Speaker 1: for whatever reason, he never pursued it up for Buffalo. Wow,

1740
01:21:11,840 --> 01:21:13,960
Speaker 1: that's I had forgotten that part of it. But I

1741
01:21:14,000 --> 01:21:16,120
Speaker 1: remember being excited because he was the first round draft

1742
01:21:16,200 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: that coming to the CFL. He was the first overall pick. Yeah,

1743
01:21:20,240 --> 01:21:23,680
Speaker 1: we've always had an inferiority complex, you know. Yeah. Can

1744
01:21:23,680 --> 01:21:26,640
Speaker 1: you imagine nowadays Steve the first overall pick in the

1745
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:29,720
Speaker 1: draft going to the Canadian Football League. It'd be a joke. Well, hey,

1746
01:21:29,800 --> 01:21:31,599
Speaker 1: Johnny mins L's up there, and he was a number

1747
01:21:31,640 --> 01:21:35,240
Speaker 1: one pick of the Brown he said, some extenuating circumstances. Well, yeah,

1748
01:21:35,240 --> 01:21:37,479
Speaker 1: that's the where it goes. I mean, that's that happened sometimes.

1749
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:40,680
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean Warren Moon played in Canada for

1750
01:21:41,000 --> 01:21:44,240
Speaker 1: a long time. Yeah, before the NFL. Because the NFL,

1751
01:21:45,040 --> 01:21:48,160
Speaker 1: uh didn't want a black guy playing quarterback. Quite frankly,

1752
01:21:48,760 --> 01:21:50,960
Speaker 1: and he proved him wrong. And now he's in the

1753
01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:54,000
Speaker 1: Pro Football Hall of Fame after a stellar CFL career

1754
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,080
Speaker 1: and a stellar NFL career. That you know, So there

1755
01:21:57,120 --> 01:22:00,920
Speaker 1: are guys who you know, go be on what happens

1756
01:22:00,960 --> 01:22:03,639
Speaker 1: on the football field, and I think Warren's one of them. Uh,

1757
01:22:04,080 --> 01:22:07,560
Speaker 1: Tom Kuzno is one of them. Joe Eisman played in

1758
01:22:07,600 --> 01:22:10,280
Speaker 1: the CFL, Joe cat played in the CFL. There's a

1759
01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:13,960
Speaker 1: lot of guys that went that route. Although Tom Kuzno

1760
01:22:14,080 --> 01:22:16,920
Speaker 1: being the number one overall pick, yeah, that stands out. Hey,

1761
01:22:17,080 --> 01:22:19,000
Speaker 1: there's an it's not it's kind of a funny story.

1762
01:22:19,040 --> 01:22:23,160
Speaker 1: Our producer Jay Harris loves this story, right, Okay. And

1763
01:22:23,439 --> 01:22:26,840
Speaker 1: you do not wear your your AFC Championship rings very much.

1764
01:22:26,880 --> 01:22:31,040
Speaker 1: I do not. Where do you keep I've been safe? Yeah? Yeah?

1765
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,880
Speaker 1: Four of them? Yeah, and never wear them. I'll wear

1766
01:22:34,960 --> 01:22:37,000
Speaker 1: them occasionally. You know what, No, I don't wear them.

1767
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:38,160
Speaker 1: You know what I wear is I wear the Wall

1768
01:22:38,200 --> 01:22:41,280
Speaker 1: of Fame ring. Okay, they get they put you on

1769
01:22:41,320 --> 01:22:42,800
Speaker 1: the Listen, it's funny. They put you on the Wall

1770
01:22:42,800 --> 01:22:44,600
Speaker 1: of Fame in the stadium and then they give you

1771
01:22:44,760 --> 01:22:48,240
Speaker 1: a ring of honor at the same time they called them.

1772
01:22:48,280 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: You know some stadium it's called the Ring of honor,

1773
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:51,800
Speaker 1: where it's a ring on the stadium, but they put

1774
01:22:51,840 --> 01:22:53,439
Speaker 1: you on the Wall of fame in in the New

1775
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: Era of field, and then they give you a ring

1776
01:22:55,360 --> 01:22:57,680
Speaker 1: of honor. So I wear that sometimes when I go out.

1777
01:22:57,880 --> 01:23:00,800
Speaker 1: This happened back in may Za. The captain for the

1778
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,759
Speaker 1: New York Giants Special Team are long snapper right Vetteran

1779
01:23:03,840 --> 01:23:09,400
Speaker 1: thirty four years old. He went to a charity event

1780
01:23:09,520 --> 01:23:11,760
Speaker 1: hosted a charity event event with his wife back on

1781
01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:14,479
Speaker 1: May second, and he brought his two Super Bowl rings,

1782
01:23:14,560 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: one for each of the Giant Super Bowl wins over

1783
01:23:17,160 --> 01:23:20,280
Speaker 1: the Patriots. He returned home, he realized the rings were

1784
01:23:20,360 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 1: not in his possession. He called the police. Apparently Deac

1785
01:23:23,800 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: had one of the rings returned after a man who

1786
01:23:25,600 --> 01:23:28,839
Speaker 1: had been walking his dog the next day notice shattered

1787
01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:31,320
Speaker 1: glass on the ground. The man saw a small box

1788
01:23:31,400 --> 01:23:33,840
Speaker 1: with a Super Bowl ring inside, noticed the name on

1789
01:23:33,920 --> 01:23:36,439
Speaker 1: the ring, and returned it. That ring in an estimated

1790
01:23:36,520 --> 01:23:38,599
Speaker 1: value of nineteen thousand dollars. The other ring is still

1791
01:23:38,640 --> 01:23:42,720
Speaker 1: out there from Super Bowl forty two that has an

1792
01:23:42,800 --> 01:23:45,720
Speaker 1: estimated value of fifteen thousand dollars. Listen to this. This

1793
01:23:45,920 --> 01:23:47,519
Speaker 1: is what he did on his way out of the

1794
01:23:47,640 --> 01:23:51,680
Speaker 1: charity event. Diace had his keys in wallet in one

1795
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,400
Speaker 1: hand and had the Super Bowl rings. He put it

1796
01:23:54,479 --> 01:23:57,599
Speaker 1: on top of his car and drove away. He put

1797
01:23:57,680 --> 01:23:59,840
Speaker 1: his Super Bowl rings from in a box in a

1798
01:24:00,040 --> 01:24:02,679
Speaker 1: glass box on top of his car and drove away

1799
01:24:02,760 --> 01:24:05,640
Speaker 1: absent mindedly, just drove off. Now we've all done that, right,

1800
01:24:05,640 --> 01:24:08,439
Speaker 1: I've had left coffee on top of my car. Yeah,

1801
01:24:08,520 --> 01:24:10,000
Speaker 1: I've left I think I don't know if I've ever

1802
01:24:10,080 --> 01:24:12,080
Speaker 1: left a wallet, but I've left stuff. Yeah, stuff. I

1803
01:24:12,080 --> 01:24:15,080
Speaker 1: don't think I've ever would lose a nineteen or fifteen

1804
01:24:15,080 --> 01:24:18,000
Speaker 1: thousand dollars ring, thirty four thousand dollars worth. The Super

1805
01:24:18,040 --> 01:24:19,640
Speaker 1: Bowl rings left on top of his car. He got

1806
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:21,280
Speaker 1: one back. Not then you can see that they give

1807
01:24:21,360 --> 01:24:22,680
Speaker 1: them to you. They give you these rings. They come

1808
01:24:22,720 --> 01:24:24,479
Speaker 1: in nice, nice, well the ones I had, we got

1809
01:24:24,560 --> 01:24:27,240
Speaker 1: the AFC Championship rings. They give you a nice wooden

1810
01:24:27,400 --> 01:24:29,559
Speaker 1: cases that are meant to carry the ring because they

1811
01:24:29,640 --> 01:24:32,160
Speaker 1: know that they're the size of door knobs. So he's

1812
01:24:32,200 --> 01:24:34,599
Speaker 1: really hard to wear them. But you know, you bring

1813
01:24:34,680 --> 01:24:37,680
Speaker 1: him out like Diosse did, to charity events and to

1814
01:24:37,760 --> 01:24:39,840
Speaker 1: show people and say hi, you know, and you put

1815
01:24:39,920 --> 01:24:41,920
Speaker 1: them on for photo ops and selfies and that kind

1816
01:24:41,960 --> 01:24:46,439
Speaker 1: of thing at an event and for for guys of like, well,

1817
01:24:46,479 --> 01:24:48,800
Speaker 1: his dad's got one from Super Bowl twenty five. His dad,

1818
01:24:48,840 --> 01:24:50,760
Speaker 1: Steve Diosse was a long snapper for the giants and

1819
01:24:50,800 --> 01:24:53,519
Speaker 1: the same thing. But you know, you bring them out

1820
01:24:53,520 --> 01:24:55,240
Speaker 1: for people see because they want to see those kind

1821
01:24:55,280 --> 01:24:58,439
Speaker 1: of things, and you're not used to carry them around,

1822
01:24:59,000 --> 01:25:00,880
Speaker 1: you know, yeah, you just it's not used to having

1823
01:25:00,920 --> 01:25:04,040
Speaker 1: the thing, and you know it's so you don't it's

1824
01:25:04,080 --> 01:25:05,760
Speaker 1: not in part of your routine of pulling the thing

1825
01:25:05,800 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: off the what do you do with it? When you

1826
01:25:07,320 --> 01:25:08,800
Speaker 1: get to your car and you got your hands full,

1827
01:25:08,800 --> 01:25:11,120
Speaker 1: you put the stuff up on top, you unlock, and

1828
01:25:11,160 --> 01:25:13,360
Speaker 1: then you then, all of a sudden, that one moment

1829
01:25:13,400 --> 01:25:14,840
Speaker 1: from when you put the stuff on top of your

1830
01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:16,800
Speaker 1: car to the next moment when you're getting in, you're

1831
01:25:16,800 --> 01:25:20,000
Speaker 1: on autopilot and everything goes away and you forget about

1832
01:25:20,000 --> 01:25:21,639
Speaker 1: the stuff sitting on top of your car. We've seen

1833
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:24,720
Speaker 1: a million times. I mean, it's a joke, zep. It's

1834
01:25:24,760 --> 01:25:27,960
Speaker 1: thirty four thousand dollars funny, he says. Any when it's

1835
01:25:28,000 --> 01:25:30,880
Speaker 1: somebody else his insurance company can get him a replacement ring,

1836
01:25:30,960 --> 01:25:34,280
Speaker 1: but he says nothing will ever replace exactly the original um.

1837
01:25:35,479 --> 01:25:37,880
Speaker 1: He said, these rings are near and dear to my heart.

1838
01:25:37,960 --> 01:25:42,000
Speaker 1: It was a sad, sad realization that I haphazardly misplaced them.

1839
01:25:42,280 --> 01:25:43,760
Speaker 1: I bet it doesn't do that again. If it doesn't

1840
01:25:43,800 --> 01:25:46,240
Speaker 1: put anything on top of his car anymore, I'm sure

1841
01:25:47,320 --> 01:25:50,000
Speaker 1: that that won't happen. I don't know. I say, you

1842
01:25:50,040 --> 01:25:51,880
Speaker 1: say it not gonna won't put it in thing valuable

1843
01:25:51,960 --> 01:25:53,880
Speaker 1: up there? Right? But I think now every time you

1844
01:25:53,920 --> 01:25:55,720
Speaker 1: wouldn't you every time you put something up there, it's

1845
01:25:55,720 --> 01:25:59,240
Speaker 1: like you can't if every time, I will get sick

1846
01:25:59,280 --> 01:26:01,639
Speaker 1: of feeling right. Hey, we also, I want to mention

1847
01:26:01,720 --> 01:26:03,439
Speaker 1: this because this guy's a good guy who left the

1848
01:26:03,479 --> 01:26:06,920
Speaker 1: Bills and blessed Stow scout for the Bills Marcus Cooper.

1849
01:26:07,120 --> 01:26:09,040
Speaker 1: He's been around with the Bills for a while. He

1850
01:26:09,120 --> 01:26:11,360
Speaker 1: has taken a job of the Giants seven years in

1851
01:26:11,439 --> 01:26:13,800
Speaker 1: Buffalo over two different stints, worked his way up from

1852
01:26:13,840 --> 01:26:16,559
Speaker 1: a player personnel assistant to bless Stow scout. He's going

1853
01:26:16,600 --> 01:26:20,000
Speaker 1: to be the Southeast regional scout for the New York Giants.

1854
01:26:20,040 --> 01:26:21,960
Speaker 1: Went on to serve with David, get him on there,

1855
01:26:22,080 --> 01:26:24,240
Speaker 1: and we're wish him well. Cool, good man, Marcus Cooper,

1856
01:26:24,280 --> 01:26:26,559
Speaker 1: wish him well moving on to the New York good stuff. Man.

1857
01:26:27,000 --> 01:26:29,200
Speaker 1: Guys move around and he's always changing, and it's fun

1858
01:26:29,200 --> 01:26:31,680
Speaker 1: because it is a little bit I hate to say it,

1859
01:26:31,680 --> 01:26:34,640
Speaker 1: but it's a little bit of an incestuous league. I mean,

1860
01:26:34,760 --> 01:26:36,960
Speaker 1: you think about guys who move around, coaches who move around.

1861
01:26:36,960 --> 01:26:38,759
Speaker 1: Look at Look at say the guy who is defensive

1862
01:26:38,760 --> 01:26:42,000
Speaker 1: coordinator here a few years ago, Jim Schwartz, Yeah, head

1863
01:26:42,080 --> 01:26:45,080
Speaker 1: coach of the Lions, comes to Buffalo, goes to Philly,

1864
01:26:45,240 --> 01:26:47,639
Speaker 1: goes to he was wasn't there one stop in between

1865
01:26:47,720 --> 01:26:50,760
Speaker 1: there too? When he before between here and Philly? I

1866
01:26:50,760 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: don't think so, I think. And then you get guys.

1867
01:26:52,760 --> 01:26:54,519
Speaker 1: You get all these guys like Wade Phillips has been

1868
01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:57,200
Speaker 1: a defensive coordinator for like everywhere everywhere. He's a head

1869
01:26:57,200 --> 01:26:59,120
Speaker 1: coach here and Buffalo head coach and Dallas head coach

1870
01:26:59,160 --> 01:27:02,240
Speaker 1: in Denver, and all these guys get to know other

1871
01:27:02,320 --> 01:27:04,400
Speaker 1: coaches and they you know, you're buddy in. They bring

1872
01:27:04,479 --> 01:27:06,280
Speaker 1: guys on staff and they get used to it, and

1873
01:27:06,840 --> 01:27:09,040
Speaker 1: it's nice to see guys bounce around. But that's what

1874
01:27:09,080 --> 01:27:10,720
Speaker 1: happened to Frank Wrych. I mean Frank was in the

1875
01:27:10,800 --> 01:27:13,240
Speaker 1: coaching staff in Indianapolis, then went to Arizona, they went

1876
01:27:13,280 --> 01:27:15,040
Speaker 1: to San Diego. They don't move, they don't get promote.

1877
01:27:15,040 --> 01:27:17,320
Speaker 1: That's right, That's exactly right. I got one more thing.

1878
01:27:17,360 --> 01:27:20,479
Speaker 1: I want to run back. Okay, this is odd. Detroit

1879
01:27:20,640 --> 01:27:23,759
Speaker 1: Lions new coach Matt Patricia for a long time Patriots

1880
01:27:23,800 --> 01:27:28,280
Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. Detroit Free Press writer Carlos Monaros writes a

1881
01:27:28,360 --> 01:27:32,439
Speaker 1: story published over the weekend, Matt Patricia is in danger

1882
01:27:32,560 --> 01:27:36,160
Speaker 1: of losing his players. He writes, that was my main

1883
01:27:36,280 --> 01:27:39,200
Speaker 1: observation from three days at minicamp. The Detroit Lions rookie

1884
01:27:39,280 --> 01:27:42,320
Speaker 1: coach want things, wants things done his way, and his

1885
01:27:42,400 --> 01:27:46,280
Speaker 1: way means running as punishment. That's not lucky likely to

1886
01:27:46,400 --> 01:27:48,840
Speaker 1: endear him to players, many of whom are experienced professionals

1887
01:27:49,120 --> 01:27:51,040
Speaker 1: who don't need or care to be treated like JB

1888
01:27:51,240 --> 01:27:58,240
Speaker 1: trial players. Patricia's tactics smacks of amateurism. Most players don't

1889
01:27:58,280 --> 01:28:00,920
Speaker 1: care for it. It's insulting at this level. Matt Patricia

1890
01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,680
Speaker 1: has been on the job with his players for what

1891
01:28:04,120 --> 01:28:07,479
Speaker 1: six weeks, two months maybe, and they run his punishment

1892
01:28:07,560 --> 01:28:11,200
Speaker 1: and he's gonna lose his players. Come on, Steve, Well,

1893
01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:14,559
Speaker 1: there's probably a number of players on that team need

1894
01:28:14,640 --> 01:28:19,160
Speaker 1: to be lost. Good point, right. The players might not

1895
01:28:19,280 --> 01:28:22,479
Speaker 1: like running, but really it's a franchise. It's a franchise,

1896
01:28:22,520 --> 01:28:24,200
Speaker 1: and you can make all the fun of Buffalo in

1897
01:28:24,320 --> 01:28:26,640
Speaker 1: seventeen year drought you want. They've got one of the

1898
01:28:26,680 --> 01:28:28,519
Speaker 1: elite quarterbacks in the league and they can't find a

1899
01:28:28,560 --> 01:28:31,400
Speaker 1: way to win. There's there's problems over there, and Matt

1900
01:28:31,439 --> 01:28:35,560
Speaker 1: Patricia is gonna I think you got it. I'd go

1901
01:28:35,640 --> 01:28:38,559
Speaker 1: in there with a big fat broom and get rid

1902
01:28:38,600 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 1: of guys that aren't about it. You know, if they

1903
01:28:41,080 --> 01:28:42,680
Speaker 1: don't want if they want to do things their own way,

1904
01:28:42,880 --> 01:28:45,920
Speaker 1: their own way. Got their last guy fired, So you

1905
01:28:46,000 --> 01:28:47,360
Speaker 1: know what, you can do it that way on another

1906
01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,320
Speaker 1: team and get that guy fired. You're not getting me fired,

1907
01:28:49,400 --> 01:28:51,400
Speaker 1: says you know, you're Matt Patricia. You gotta do it

1908
01:28:51,479 --> 01:28:53,519
Speaker 1: the way the head coach wants it. And even if

1909
01:28:53,560 --> 01:28:55,400
Speaker 1: he's new, even if he's it's his first time as

1910
01:28:55,400 --> 01:28:58,280
Speaker 1: a head coach, it's irrelevant. You guys got a new

1911
01:28:58,320 --> 01:29:01,680
Speaker 1: head coach because you stunt clash year fix it And

1912
01:29:01,800 --> 01:29:03,519
Speaker 1: if you don't want to fix it, you're out. Yeah,

1913
01:29:03,760 --> 01:29:05,280
Speaker 1: I just I don't have any I don't have any

1914
01:29:05,280 --> 01:29:08,240
Speaker 1: sympathy for these guys. I mean, who you know, don't

1915
01:29:08,280 --> 01:29:13,280
Speaker 1: get punished, then do the right thing. It's not rocket science.

1916
01:29:13,439 --> 01:29:15,080
Speaker 1: We're gonna get back to our topic of the day

1917
01:29:15,120 --> 01:29:18,479
Speaker 1: on trades. What's your favorite trade and franchise history? Phone

1918
01:29:18,520 --> 01:29:20,479
Speaker 1: lines open eight oh three h five fifty in the

1919
01:29:20,560 --> 01:29:23,599
Speaker 1: number toll free from outside Buffalo one eight eight eight

1920
01:29:23,720 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 1: five fifty two five fifty or on Twitter at one

1921
01:29:26,600 --> 01:29:28,720
Speaker 1: Bills Live. We got Manischman. Are gonna come on and

1922
01:29:28,760 --> 01:29:30,800
Speaker 1: talk with us about the Jets at two, So stick

1923
01:29:30,840 --> 01:29:32,920
Speaker 1: around a lot more to come, John Murphy, Steve Tasker,

1924
01:29:33,200 --> 01:29:35,400
Speaker 1: One Bill's Live from One Bill's Drive and this is

1925
01:29:35,479 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills Radio. What do you think it's the best

1926
01:29:51,080 --> 01:29:53,479
Speaker 1: trade in Bill's history? What's your favorite in Bill's history?

1927
01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,400
Speaker 1: Give us a call. So we're talking about on the

1928
01:29:55,400 --> 01:29:58,200
Speaker 1: show today because tonight eight o'clock on MSG the Bill's

1929
01:29:58,200 --> 01:30:00,800
Speaker 1: Top ten series, Top ten Trades and Bill History. Let

1930
01:30:00,840 --> 01:30:02,800
Speaker 1: me take that back, We want your favorite, not the best.

1931
01:30:02,880 --> 01:30:05,040
Speaker 1: I think many of us believe the CORNEI has spent

1932
01:30:05,080 --> 01:30:07,000
Speaker 1: a trade is gonna be the number one trade, but

1933
01:30:07,080 --> 01:30:08,640
Speaker 1: maybe there's another faithe that you liked. You like the

1934
01:30:08,680 --> 01:30:09,960
Speaker 1: way it worked out, you like the way it was

1935
01:30:10,000 --> 01:30:13,880
Speaker 1: set up. That's our Twitter topic and that's our phone topic.

1936
01:30:13,920 --> 01:30:15,720
Speaker 1: We've been talking a little bit about the Shady Deal

1937
01:30:15,920 --> 01:30:18,680
Speaker 1: trading Akiko Alonso, who at the time, I mean, he

1938
01:30:18,840 --> 01:30:20,760
Speaker 1: had that legend of Kiko thing going, but then he

1939
01:30:20,800 --> 01:30:22,840
Speaker 1: blew his knee out. He was missed his whole second year,

1940
01:30:23,080 --> 01:30:25,360
Speaker 1: came was coming back, and the Bills traded him straight

1941
01:30:25,400 --> 01:30:28,439
Speaker 1: across to Philadelphia for Lashawn McCoy, who led the NFL

1942
01:30:28,520 --> 01:30:31,160
Speaker 1: and rushing for two straight or help the team lead

1943
01:30:31,200 --> 01:30:32,960
Speaker 1: the league in rushing for two straight years, and then

1944
01:30:33,000 --> 01:30:36,400
Speaker 1: this last year got him into the playoffs. What a

1945
01:30:36,439 --> 01:30:39,280
Speaker 1: trade that was. And that's really one that's easy to

1946
01:30:39,320 --> 01:30:42,280
Speaker 1: get your mind round. This guy for your guy straight across.

1947
01:30:42,320 --> 01:30:45,160
Speaker 1: There was no you know, third round next year. This

1948
01:30:45,320 --> 01:30:47,000
Speaker 1: guy this year that got you know, it was just

1949
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:52,200
Speaker 1: straight across. And what a boom it has been for

1950
01:30:52,280 --> 01:30:54,400
Speaker 1: the Bills getting Shady in their backfield. He's been the

1951
01:30:54,560 --> 01:30:56,439
Speaker 1: difference maker for a lot of their wins. It might

1952
01:30:56,479 --> 01:30:59,040
Speaker 1: be your favorite. Maybe the Jerry Hughes trade was your favorite.

1953
01:30:59,120 --> 01:31:01,920
Speaker 1: Give us a call eight oh three fifty tool three

1954
01:31:02,320 --> 01:31:05,599
Speaker 1: one eight eight eight five fifty two five fifty Your

1955
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:08,640
Speaker 1: favorite trade in franchise history? We gotta call here from

1956
01:31:08,680 --> 01:31:12,000
Speaker 1: Tom and Elma. Tom, go ahead, you're on the air, Hi, guys,

1957
01:31:12,040 --> 01:31:15,479
Speaker 1: how are you good? I got one that's I don't know,

1958
01:31:15,680 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 1: more controversial or what. But back in the day when

1959
01:31:18,479 --> 01:31:23,160
Speaker 1: Bobby Chandler was traded to the Raiders for Phil Villipiano, Yeah,

1960
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:27,240
Speaker 1: well he led the league for Buffalo two hundred and

1961
01:31:27,240 --> 01:31:30,400
Speaker 1: twenty catches in his first three years, and then we

1962
01:31:30,560 --> 01:31:32,640
Speaker 1: shipped them for a Villipiano, who at the time was

1963
01:31:32,720 --> 01:31:37,280
Speaker 1: Pro Bowl. Yeah, and then I Bobby Candler ended up

1964
01:31:37,280 --> 01:31:39,240
Speaker 1: passing away when he was forty five from camp. He

1965
01:31:39,360 --> 01:31:41,720
Speaker 1: played in the Super Bowl with the Raiders, right, Yes,

1966
01:31:41,800 --> 01:31:44,519
Speaker 1: he did, thank you. I think it was. Yeah, he played.

1967
01:31:44,560 --> 01:31:47,040
Speaker 1: He was a great receiver, he was. He both did

1968
01:31:47,120 --> 01:31:49,000
Speaker 1: a great job too, though. That was a tough one.

1969
01:31:49,040 --> 01:31:51,120
Speaker 1: That's one of the ones we could trade player for player,

1970
01:31:51,200 --> 01:31:53,439
Speaker 1: and it's it's an interesting it's kind of a the

1971
01:31:53,479 --> 01:31:55,200
Speaker 1: guy you're getting, you know, it's kind of a toss

1972
01:31:55,280 --> 01:31:57,599
Speaker 1: up as to who gets the better the deal, whichever team. Actually,

1973
01:31:57,680 --> 01:31:59,679
Speaker 1: he kind of put it on whichever team does better

1974
01:31:59,720 --> 01:32:02,439
Speaker 1: and give the Raiders the knob on that, right, Chandler

1975
01:32:02,520 --> 01:32:04,400
Speaker 1: had a lot more to give. Filipiano was on the

1976
01:32:04,560 --> 01:32:06,719
Speaker 1: tail end of his career. That was a Chuck Knox

1977
01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:08,600
Speaker 1: trade too, I believe, right. I mean that's Chuck was

1978
01:32:08,640 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 1: trying to get some veteran leadership, Tom right, for the Bills,

1979
01:32:11,720 --> 01:32:14,000
Speaker 1: and he had not He wasn't around when Chandler was

1980
01:32:14,520 --> 01:32:16,120
Speaker 1: was making his bones. That was a tough one. I

1981
01:32:16,240 --> 01:32:19,280
Speaker 1: recall being bothered by that. Chandler was one of those

1982
01:32:19,280 --> 01:32:22,360
Speaker 1: Blitna Cough disciples where he loved watching his film yep,

1983
01:32:22,720 --> 01:32:25,200
Speaker 1: and you know it was basically the same kind of receiver.

1984
01:32:25,400 --> 01:32:28,679
Speaker 1: That's why he did. I think they did win that trade. Button, Yeah, Raiders,

1985
01:32:29,200 --> 01:32:31,080
Speaker 1: all right, Tom, Thanks, that's a really good one. That's

1986
01:32:31,080 --> 01:32:33,960
Speaker 1: an important trade in franchise history. One that it wasn't

1987
01:32:34,000 --> 01:32:36,560
Speaker 1: a disaster for the Bills. But Bobby Chandler, and this

1988
01:32:36,720 --> 01:32:39,080
Speaker 1: is going back to I guess my high school days.

1989
01:32:39,439 --> 01:32:41,280
Speaker 1: He was, you know, and the Bills weren't great every

1990
01:32:41,360 --> 01:32:44,120
Speaker 1: year back then, Steve, but Bobby Chandler was pretty much

1991
01:32:44,160 --> 01:32:46,240
Speaker 1: everybody's favorite. Do you remember this guy? Don't you mean?

1992
01:32:46,280 --> 01:32:48,640
Speaker 1: I know the name? I never met him. Usc guy right,

1993
01:32:49,240 --> 01:32:53,320
Speaker 1: great footwork, great hands, a lot of sideline catches. Kids

1994
01:32:53,360 --> 01:32:56,400
Speaker 1: would mimic him, you know, tiptoeing two feet you know,

1995
01:32:56,640 --> 01:32:58,600
Speaker 1: down on the ground, tapping two feet down on the

1996
01:32:58,640 --> 01:33:01,360
Speaker 1: ground before out about. I mean everybody did that back

1997
01:33:01,400 --> 01:33:04,120
Speaker 1: in the seventies. Bobby Chandling was a big time player. Yeah,

1998
01:33:04,160 --> 01:33:05,720
Speaker 1: that's that was a tough trade. That's a really good

1999
01:33:05,760 --> 01:33:07,960
Speaker 1: point time. I forgot about that one. That's right. Yeah,

2000
01:33:07,960 --> 01:33:10,920
Speaker 1: And that's you go back. And it's funny how people

2001
01:33:11,800 --> 01:33:13,519
Speaker 1: you go back, like Tom just did it. You go

2002
01:33:13,600 --> 01:33:15,439
Speaker 1: back to your kid when you're a kid, and we

2003
01:33:15,520 --> 01:33:17,240
Speaker 1: said it earlier in the show. When you're a kid,

2004
01:33:17,280 --> 01:33:20,639
Speaker 1: you remember these things because the team is your team,

2005
01:33:20,720 --> 01:33:22,519
Speaker 1: and your your guys are your guys, and you think

2006
01:33:22,640 --> 01:33:25,559
Speaker 1: the goes guy. Not that we think anything different now,

2007
01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:28,040
Speaker 1: but when you're on your guys on the team, you

2008
01:33:28,200 --> 01:33:30,400
Speaker 1: know that your guy loves the team just as much

2009
01:33:30,400 --> 01:33:32,920
Speaker 1: as you do. And then when he goes to another team,

2010
01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:37,000
Speaker 1: you can't imagine you're self rooting for another team, like

2011
01:33:37,120 --> 01:33:38,880
Speaker 1: the guy's gonna go play for somebody else, And it's

2012
01:33:38,960 --> 01:33:40,120
Speaker 1: kind of hard to get your mind as a kid,

2013
01:33:40,160 --> 01:33:41,880
Speaker 1: it's hard to get your mind around what it must

2014
01:33:41,920 --> 01:33:43,920
Speaker 1: be like for the player to go play for another team.

2015
01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,160
Speaker 1: It's like you can't play for them. It's like in

2016
01:33:46,240 --> 01:33:48,640
Speaker 1: the neighborhood when your buddy goes and plays for the

2017
01:33:48,680 --> 01:33:51,400
Speaker 1: other team. You can't play for them, and it's hard

2018
01:33:51,400 --> 01:33:53,280
Speaker 1: to get your mind around. It's amazing how many people

2019
01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:56,000
Speaker 1: have called in today and have those memories from when

2020
01:33:56,000 --> 01:33:58,799
Speaker 1: they were a kid and their favorite player got traded.

2021
01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:01,799
Speaker 1: It's one of these dicks with you forever. And it's

2022
01:34:01,840 --> 01:34:04,160
Speaker 1: so interesting to hear this one on the tweet sheet

2023
01:34:04,360 --> 01:34:06,200
Speaker 1: and it's you you what we call this one? I

2024
01:34:06,240 --> 01:34:09,640
Speaker 1: believe Steve this from Mark Bazinski his favorite trade the

2025
01:34:09,680 --> 01:34:13,280
Speaker 1: Bills trading for Leonard Smith. He completed the defense with

2026
01:34:13,400 --> 01:34:16,320
Speaker 1: his hard hitting, strong safety play. I think they gave

2027
01:34:16,439 --> 01:34:19,639
Speaker 1: up fifth to Arizona for him. I thought they traded

2028
01:34:19,680 --> 01:34:22,240
Speaker 1: to Sean mcnanny to Arizona for Leonard Smith, didn't they?

2029
01:34:22,439 --> 01:34:23,920
Speaker 1: I got that wrong. You remember you were you here,

2030
01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:25,800
Speaker 1: You were here, I was here, and I both those

2031
01:34:25,800 --> 01:34:28,040
Speaker 1: guys are teammates of mind, and I can't remember how

2032
01:34:28,080 --> 01:34:30,559
Speaker 1: it came down. That's a good that's a good one.

2033
01:34:30,600 --> 01:34:32,400
Speaker 1: I don't know. I can't remember that. I don't remember

2034
01:34:32,400 --> 01:34:34,200
Speaker 1: that the specifics of the trade, but I know Leonard

2035
01:34:34,320 --> 01:34:36,160
Speaker 1: came here and I didn't think he was a trade.

2036
01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,080
Speaker 1: If if you'd ask me that, I would I would

2037
01:34:38,120 --> 01:34:39,280
Speaker 1: have said, I didn't know if he was a trade

2038
01:34:39,360 --> 01:34:41,160
Speaker 1: or not. I didn't know we got him through a trade.

2039
01:34:41,880 --> 01:34:45,000
Speaker 1: I thought it was, uh, you know, I thought he

2040
01:34:45,080 --> 01:34:46,680
Speaker 1: was a free agent or something. But I don't know

2041
01:34:46,800 --> 01:34:48,519
Speaker 1: that that's a good one. That's a good because he

2042
01:34:48,600 --> 01:34:51,479
Speaker 1: was He was a big He was a big dude,

2043
01:34:51,640 --> 01:34:54,040
Speaker 1: a big presence on game day. Man. There's a guy

2044
01:34:54,120 --> 01:34:57,040
Speaker 1: that changed on him on game day. Man that he

2045
01:34:57,200 --> 01:34:58,960
Speaker 1: lit the furnace on game day. Man was a guy

2046
01:34:59,000 --> 01:35:01,320
Speaker 1: he went around, slapped every body's hand in the locker room.

2047
01:35:01,960 --> 01:35:04,800
Speaker 1: And Marv used to put on a big, big weather glove,

2048
01:35:04,920 --> 01:35:06,960
Speaker 1: you know, so when he slapped his hand, it wouldn't hurt.

2049
01:35:07,040 --> 01:35:09,400
Speaker 1: It was a trade. Three games into the season, nineteen

2050
01:35:09,520 --> 01:35:12,040
Speaker 1: eighty eight, Cardinals traded him to the Bills. And I

2051
01:35:12,120 --> 01:35:13,560
Speaker 1: don't know what the other end of that trade was.

2052
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,680
Speaker 1: I want to say, Sean mcnanny, remember that guy, defensive end.

2053
01:35:16,720 --> 01:35:20,200
Speaker 1: Sean mcnanny went to Arizona. I think Leonard came to

2054
01:35:20,320 --> 01:35:23,639
Speaker 1: us in eighty eight Yeah. Really with the Cardinals eighty

2055
01:35:23,640 --> 01:35:26,040
Speaker 1: three to eighty eight All Pro and eighty six. Three

2056
01:35:26,080 --> 01:35:28,280
Speaker 1: games into the eighty eight season the Bills. The Cardinals

2057
01:35:28,320 --> 01:35:32,240
Speaker 1: traded him to the Bills. How about that? See's I

2058
01:35:32,240 --> 01:35:34,080
Speaker 1: always thought it was. I always thought he was on

2059
01:35:34,200 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: the Cardinals, and I guess that makes sense. Wow, that's amazing,

2060
01:35:38,240 --> 01:35:40,280
Speaker 1: how the how the time placed tricks on your mind.

2061
01:35:40,320 --> 01:35:42,280
Speaker 1: I thought he was. We didn't get him until late

2062
01:35:42,360 --> 01:35:44,920
Speaker 1: just before we went to the Super Bowl. I know

2063
01:35:45,120 --> 01:35:47,280
Speaker 1: he didn't. Leonard Smith did not come to us in

2064
01:35:47,439 --> 01:35:49,920
Speaker 1: eighty eight. That's what it says, Steve. There's no way,

2065
01:35:50,200 --> 01:35:53,080
Speaker 1: is that right? Yeah? Check that out. Somebody get our

2066
01:35:53,120 --> 01:35:56,880
Speaker 1: staff on that. I don't trust Not that I don't

2067
01:35:56,920 --> 01:36:00,439
Speaker 1: trust you, murf, but I don't trust you. This is

2068
01:36:00,520 --> 01:36:04,080
Speaker 1: from another website. One of the hardest sitting Buffalo Bills

2069
01:36:04,080 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: of all times, strong safety Leonard Smith. He was acquired

2070
01:36:06,120 --> 01:36:08,160
Speaker 1: in a trade early in the nineteen eighty eighth season.

2071
01:36:09,080 --> 01:36:11,960
Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure Sean mcnanny was the other guy. That's

2072
01:36:12,000 --> 01:36:15,160
Speaker 1: a good trade that should be considered as one of

2073
01:36:15,240 --> 01:36:19,160
Speaker 1: the top ten trades in franchise history. You know. My

2074
01:36:19,320 --> 01:36:23,600
Speaker 1: recollection to Steve of Super Bowl twenty six against Washington.

2075
01:36:23,960 --> 01:36:25,800
Speaker 1: Leonard Smith did not play. That was a remember he

2076
01:36:25,920 --> 01:36:28,439
Speaker 1: was sick. He had like a staff infection. That was

2077
01:36:28,520 --> 01:36:30,840
Speaker 1: a major loss for that Buffalo defense that day. Don't

2078
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:33,360
Speaker 1: you think do you remember that? Gosh, it might really

2079
01:36:34,439 --> 01:36:36,560
Speaker 1: I'm still still blowing my mind. I'm you know what,

2080
01:36:37,400 --> 01:36:39,479
Speaker 1: I must be older than I think. I tell me

2081
01:36:39,560 --> 01:36:41,640
Speaker 1: it's not the years. It must be the mileage on.

2082
01:36:42,280 --> 01:36:44,640
Speaker 1: That's amazing. I didn't think we got him until like

2083
01:36:46,479 --> 01:36:48,400
Speaker 1: eighty nine nine. I don't know what am I saying?

2084
01:36:48,600 --> 01:36:51,840
Speaker 1: Eighty eight See, I thought Dwight Draine was playing safety

2085
01:36:51,920 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 1: for us in Super Bowl twenty five. I'm telling you

2086
01:36:57,400 --> 01:36:59,599
Speaker 1: that's what it says. I don't know anything about anything.

2087
01:36:59,640 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 1: Anything A great here. When we come back, we're gonna

2088
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:04,960
Speaker 1: switch focus a little bit, talk about the New York

2089
01:37:05,040 --> 01:37:07,639
Speaker 1: Jets with Manische Meta from the New York Daily News.

2090
01:37:07,720 --> 01:37:10,400
Speaker 1: We will revisit this topic too. What's your favorite trade

2091
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:14,280
Speaker 1: in Bill's franchise history. We'll talk more about that. We're

2092
01:37:14,320 --> 01:37:16,639
Speaker 1: back with more One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive,

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Speaker 1: and this is Buffalo Bills Radio Bills Radio Network Sports Day.

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Speaker 1: The update comes from One Bill's Drive, where it will

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Speaker 1: be busy tomorrow mandatory mini camp against tomorrow for the Bills,

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Speaker 1: three D Mini camp probably gonna look a lot like

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Speaker 1: the last ten workouts organized team activity that ended on Friday.

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Speaker 1: The Bills have end strong attendance at the ROTA so

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Speaker 1: far this spring. Bills players off today, They'll be here

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Speaker 1: tomorrow for mini camp, and after that final mini camp

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Speaker 1: practice this Thursday, They're off for about six weeks until

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Speaker 1: training camp opens up around the league. Giants wide receiver

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Speaker 1: Odell Beckham Junior is expected to attend the team's mini camp.

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Speaker 1: That's according to em Their Mini caamp starts tomorrow. Beckham

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Speaker 1: participated in a portion of their voluntary OTA's earlier this year,

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Speaker 1: but his plans for the mandatory mini camp have been unclear.

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Speaker 1: He's looking at for a new contract extension. Some thought

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Speaker 1: that he might skip minicamp, and some believed that might

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Speaker 1: He was ready to take a fine in order to

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Speaker 1: send a message to the Giants, but apparently he will

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Speaker 1: not skip it. He'll be there tomorrow. Earl Thomas of

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Speaker 1: Seattle Their Stars Safety announced yesterday he will not attend

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Speaker 1: this week's mandatory mini camp until his contract situation is

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Speaker 1: a result. He wants to remain a Seahawk, he says,

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Speaker 1: but he's entering the final year of a four year,

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Speaker 1: forty million dollars deal. He says he wants to have

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Speaker 1: certainty about the rest of his NFL career. Lebron James

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Speaker 1: uncertain about his future. James told reporters over the weekend

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Speaker 1: he has no idea at this point whether he will

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Speaker 1: play again with the Cleveland Cavaliers. The Camps swept in

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Speaker 1: the NBA Finals by Golden State with a one oh

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Speaker 1: eight eighty five game four loss on Friday night. Lebron James,

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Speaker 1: before making his way to the locker room or after

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Speaker 1: making his way to the locker room, sat still in

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Speaker 1: his chair with a towel over his face in the

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Speaker 1: immediate aftermath of his six loss. He has to and

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Speaker 1: he has to inform the camp's weather. He intends to

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Speaker 1: opt out of the final year of his contract and

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Speaker 1: become a free agent. By June twenty nine, new NBA

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Speaker 1: coach in Detroit, Dwayne Casey has reached agreement on a

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Speaker 1: five year deal to become the Detroit Pistons head coach.

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Speaker 1: It comes one month after Casey was fired by the

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Speaker 1: Toronto Raptors. Casey's sixty one years old. He has coached

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Speaker 1: parts of nine seasons with Toronto and Minnesota. Mendisy update

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Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive, John Murphy, Steve Tasker in our

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Speaker 1: one Buffalo Studio. Mini Camp starts tomorrow for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Mini Camp begins tomorrow for the New York Jets, their

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Speaker 1: AFC East Division rivals, and joining us on the subway

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Speaker 1: fresh Take Hotline. A man who's all over the Jets,

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Speaker 1: New York Daily News, NFL columnist, Jets beat reporter, and

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Speaker 1: a Sports Channel New York Jets insider. Minishe meta on

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Speaker 1: the line Miniacht John Murphy team Tasker up here in Buffalo.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us. We appreciate it. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: having me on. Guys, Hey, Darnald is going to be

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Speaker 1: the focus of attention, just as Josh Allen is up here.

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Speaker 1: How is Sam Donald looks so far? Well, he looked

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Speaker 1: pretty good. And you know, I don't have to tell you, guys,

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Speaker 1: these guys are in shorts right now. So unless he

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Speaker 1: was completely overwhelmed, I wouldn't anticipate that he wouldn't look

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Speaker 1: fairly good to this point. You see a lot of

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Speaker 1: things that you saw in college during this ota period,

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Speaker 1: which is for Sam Donald, a guy who's very good

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Speaker 1: on the run. They have him rolling out, throwing on

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Speaker 1: the run, throwing on the move. Those things you can

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Speaker 1: see their apparent in his game. That will obviously be

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Speaker 1: a key element to what Jeremy Bates does when Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald ultimately gets in to be the starting quarterback, whether

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Speaker 1: that's week one or you know, week five, week ten, whenever.

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Speaker 1: So those elements of his game kind of jump off

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Speaker 1: the page. But you can't really decipher, at least to

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Speaker 1: this point in the off season. Is how is he

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Speaker 1: absorbing the playbook? How easy kind of commanding the huddle,

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Speaker 1: because being in a huddle for Sam Darnold is a

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Speaker 1: new thing. He didn't do that at USC very much.

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Speaker 1: So those are components that are important, really difficult to

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Speaker 1: decipher from at least from a reporter standpoint. But look,

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Speaker 1: I think he's progressing. That One thing that really jumped

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Speaker 1: out to me this offseason is what Todd Bull said

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Speaker 1: a couple weeks ago, which is Darnald is very good

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Speaker 1: at retaining information. So if he does, in fact make

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Speaker 1: a mistake in a practice, it's rare, at least to

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Speaker 1: this point, to see him make it again. And that's

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Speaker 1: a sign of a guy who really kind of gets

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Speaker 1: it and that will definitely help his development moving forward

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Speaker 1: when training camp begins and when preseason begins, because ultimately, look,

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Speaker 1: this job is his for the taking. If he shows

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff that he's capable of being the week

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Speaker 1: one starter, then he will be the week one starter

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Speaker 1: when they open up in Detroit on Monday night on

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Speaker 1: September tenth. May you also, when in the run up

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Speaker 1: to this draft, I mean all of us in the media,

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Speaker 1: we're talking about those top four, really top six guys

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Speaker 1: at quarterback, and Sam Darnald was viewed as the kind

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Speaker 1: of the safe choice, maybe not an enormous upside, but

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Speaker 1: certainly a guy who's going to come in never do

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Speaker 1: or say anything controversy, was going to be a go

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Speaker 1: to guy who came in with really good credentials from

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Speaker 1: a top notch program. He was young at twenty, but

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Speaker 1: nevertheless the only issue with him was maybe some turnovers

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Speaker 1: in college. But have you seen him be that guy

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Speaker 1: that we thought he was before that at very low risk,

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Speaker 1: very hands off, ready to go, kind of ready to

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Speaker 1: take over an NFL team without too much flutter or fuff. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't think that the moment and the environment Steve

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Speaker 1: is too big for him. That's pretty apparent when you're

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Speaker 1: around him, even though we've been around him in just

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Speaker 1: limited portions. He's not overwhelmed by the spotlight, the attention,

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Speaker 1: the expectations. He obviously clearly understood that whether he was

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Speaker 1: going to New York or Cleveland or wherever he ended

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Speaker 1: up with that he would be asked to be there,

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Speaker 1: for lack of a better phrase, savior at that position.

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Speaker 1: So I don't think it's overwhelming for him. That said,

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Speaker 1: it is the summertime right now. Let's see how he

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Speaker 1: reacts in a game situation, even even if it is

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Speaker 1: the preseason. I'd like to see him go up against

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Speaker 1: guys in different colored jerseys, just to see how he reacts,

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Speaker 1: because he has made mistakes in some of these open

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Speaker 1: h ota sessions for reporters, those things are to be expected,

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Speaker 1: of course, and you touched on the turnovers, and that's

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Speaker 1: really the biggest area that he needs to improve upon

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Speaker 1: from a year ago, because for all of his tremendous

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Speaker 1: skill sets and and you know, his ability to be

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Speaker 1: a little bit more mature than what his age dictates,

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Speaker 1: you want to see if he can curtail the mistakes

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Speaker 1: that he made last year, and we're not obviously going

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Speaker 1: to get a full sample of that until much later

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Speaker 1: in the season, but at least in the preseason I'd

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Speaker 1: like to make him. I'd like to see him make

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Speaker 1: smart decisions so it's not overwhelming for him. He's a

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Speaker 1: pretty bland guy. You know, He's not going to be

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Speaker 1: making headlines. I can promise you that off the field

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Speaker 1: as a professional, because he didn't make any offseason off

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Speaker 1: field headlines at USC's or That's just not his personality,

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Speaker 1: that's not his makeup. So I think the Jets are

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Speaker 1: going to be extremely pleased with that portion of it.

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Speaker 1: But the bigger part of it, and the more important

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Speaker 1: element to his development is can he actually lead men

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Speaker 1: at the age of twenty one and start his path

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Speaker 1: to be a difference maker, Because I don't think he's

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Speaker 1: going to be a difference maker in twenty and eighteen,

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Speaker 1: but can he kind of lay the foundation this year

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Speaker 1: so he can maybe hit the ground running in a

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Speaker 1: year or two, much like we saw with Jared Goff

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Speaker 1: and Carson Wentz in recent years. When he set gets

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Speaker 1: me to this question about Sam Donald, if word comes out.

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Speaker 1: Probably not this week, but you know at some point

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Speaker 1: over the next couple of months that he's their guy.

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Speaker 1: They're going to open up with him as the starting quarterback.

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Speaker 1: What should we take from that that Sam Donald is

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Speaker 1: really solid or that they're willing to lay the foundation

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Speaker 1: as you said, and you know, pay the price for

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Speaker 1: starting a rookie quarterback this year. What do you think, Well,

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Speaker 1: they're not naive, So if he wins the starting job,

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Speaker 1: it's going to be because they think he is ready

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Speaker 1: to be an NFL starting quarterback. Not necessarily is he

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Speaker 1: the guy who grasped this offense the best, because he's

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Speaker 1: not going to be able to have command of this

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Speaker 1: offense like a Josh McCown is going to have. And

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who's a journeyman quarterback. But if

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Speaker 1: this were a quote unquote fair quarterback competition or an

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Speaker 1: open quarterback competition, clearly Josh McCown would win that because

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Speaker 1: of his experience, the fact that he's been in the

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Speaker 1: league for a decade and a half. So the Jets

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Speaker 1: are not having a true Sam Donald verse Josh McCown

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Speaker 1: or Sam Donald versus Teddy Bridgewater competition. This is really

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Speaker 1: about Donald versus Donald, and can he grasp enough where

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Speaker 1: the coaching staff feels comfortable putting him in to a

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Speaker 1: regular season game because he is going to take his lumps.

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Speaker 1: They know that they're not going to be a playoff team.

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Speaker 1: You would think if Sam Donald were the Week one

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Speaker 1: starter and the starter for sixteen games. But you know,

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Speaker 1: this is really about cultivating his talent and developing him

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Speaker 1: so that this franchise can move forward in the right

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Speaker 1: direction with their quarterback of the future. Because again, if

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Speaker 1: this was an open competition, you wouldn't think that Sam

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Speaker 1: Donald could beat out Josh McCown. Is there going to

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Speaker 1: be some pressure because there's gonna be some fans who

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Speaker 1: automatically think, because Donald was taken so high in the draft,

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Speaker 1: his physical abilities alone would overpower a guy like Josh McCown.

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Speaker 1: And listen, they want they're gonna want to see him.

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Speaker 1: I mean, is there gonna be a lot of pressure

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Speaker 1: outside the building to see this kid Darnald play and

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Speaker 1: get him on the field and take your lumps in

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Speaker 1: the first year. Well, there's going to be, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: a desire of course to see him play a decent

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Speaker 1: amount in two thou and eighteen Steve. I don't think

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Speaker 1: there's necessarily pressure for him to be the Week one starter,

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Speaker 1: but certainly to not have a redshirt year. They're not

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Speaker 1: going to go through what they went through with Christian Hackenberg,

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Speaker 1: in which he didn't play a snap in his first

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Speaker 1: two seasons. If that's not going to happen, Sam Donald

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Speaker 1: is going to play, and he's going to play a

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Speaker 1: lot in two and eighteen. What I can answer for

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Speaker 1: you is whether that means he'll be inserted as a

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Speaker 1: starter at the end of September or in mid October,

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Speaker 1: but it will be a health the sample size, so

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Speaker 1: when we look back at this season in January, you're

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Speaker 1: going to see enough of Sam Donald to feel comfortable

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Speaker 1: that he got experienced as a rookie so that he

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Speaker 1: could hit the ground running in twenty nineteen. They're just

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Speaker 1: not going to throw him in as a token starter

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Speaker 1: in late December. That's not going to happen. So I

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Speaker 1: can't tell you if he's going to start Week one.

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Speaker 1: What I can tell you is that he is going

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Speaker 1: to start and play a lot this season. On the

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Speaker 1: line with Minni Schmida from the New York Daily News,

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Speaker 1: he's been the Jets beat reporter for nine seasons now, Benish,

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Speaker 1: you posted an article at New York Daily News about

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Speaker 1: position battles to keep an eye on, and I read

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Speaker 1: through that and thought the Jets sound a little bit

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Speaker 1: like the Bills in terms of skill positions. Whoever the

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Speaker 1: quarterback is Donald or whoever. There's not a whole lot

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01:47:41,720 --> 01:47:43,679
Speaker 1: to work with there, and some of the offensive skill

2304
01:47:43,760 --> 01:47:47,760
Speaker 1: positions is there not on paper, that's for sure. They

2305
01:47:47,920 --> 01:47:50,240
Speaker 1: kind of threw as many darts at the wide receiver

2306
01:47:50,439 --> 01:47:53,720
Speaker 1: dartboard as they could this offseason. At one point they

2307
01:47:53,760 --> 01:47:56,840
Speaker 1: had seventeen receivers on their roster, hoping that some of

2308
01:47:56,920 --> 01:48:00,360
Speaker 1: these guys stick. And look, they signed Terrell Pray, who

2309
01:48:00,439 --> 01:48:03,000
Speaker 1: obviously has a pedigree, but was coming off a bad

2310
01:48:03,040 --> 01:48:05,680
Speaker 1: season in Washington, hoping that maybe he could bounce back.

2311
01:48:05,760 --> 01:48:10,040
Speaker 1: But then he suffered a setback with his ankle about

2312
01:48:10,040 --> 01:48:11,880
Speaker 1: a month or so ago and he hasn't been able

2313
01:48:11,880 --> 01:48:14,560
Speaker 1: to participate no tas. We'll see if he's ready for

2314
01:48:14,600 --> 01:48:17,720
Speaker 1: the starting training camp. You've got Quincy and Numa, who

2315
01:48:17,800 --> 01:48:19,840
Speaker 1: was kind of an emerging young player at the wide

2316
01:48:19,880 --> 01:48:22,680
Speaker 1: receiver position two years ago, but he suffered a neck

2317
01:48:22,760 --> 01:48:25,599
Speaker 1: injury in training camp a year ago and didn't even

2318
01:48:25,640 --> 01:48:28,360
Speaker 1: play in two thousand and seventeen, so he is coming back.

2319
01:48:28,800 --> 01:48:31,599
Speaker 1: Germaine Curse is kind of a steady eddie guy who

2320
01:48:31,840 --> 01:48:34,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people tend to forget, but he led

2321
01:48:34,200 --> 01:48:36,000
Speaker 1: the team in receptions last year. And then you've got

2322
01:48:36,080 --> 01:48:40,040
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson, who by all accounts was their best wide

2323
01:48:40,080 --> 01:48:43,000
Speaker 1: receiver last year, but he had some off field incidents

2324
01:48:43,479 --> 01:48:46,120
Speaker 1: over the past nine months. I think he's gonna get

2325
01:48:46,200 --> 01:48:49,759
Speaker 1: cleared of most of that stuff through the legal system. However,

2326
01:48:49,960 --> 01:48:53,000
Speaker 1: I do anticipate him being disciplined by the NFL, so

2327
01:48:53,120 --> 01:48:55,759
Speaker 1: whatever that means being suspended for one or two games

2328
01:48:56,040 --> 01:48:57,760
Speaker 1: remains to be seen, but I don't think he'll play

2329
01:48:57,760 --> 01:48:59,960
Speaker 1: a full sixteen game season. And then when he looked

2330
01:49:00,000 --> 01:49:02,720
Speaker 1: at the tight ends, they lost Austin Safarian Jenkins the

2331
01:49:02,760 --> 01:49:05,400
Speaker 1: free agency. They've got a guy in Chris Herndon who

2332
01:49:05,400 --> 01:49:07,960
Speaker 1: they absolutely loved, the fourth round pick out of University

2333
01:49:08,000 --> 01:49:11,639
Speaker 1: of Miami, who probably should have been a third round pick,

2334
01:49:11,800 --> 01:49:14,600
Speaker 1: maybe a second round pick if he didn't suffer meniscus

2335
01:49:14,680 --> 01:49:16,640
Speaker 1: tear at the end of his college career. They were

2336
01:49:16,720 --> 01:49:19,719
Speaker 1: really high on him, and he's actually looked extremely good

2337
01:49:20,000 --> 01:49:23,560
Speaker 1: in practice in OTAs, but he got busted for a

2338
01:49:23,640 --> 01:49:26,240
Speaker 1: DWY last week, so he's going to be suspended for

2339
01:49:26,360 --> 01:49:28,400
Speaker 1: some portion of this season by the league as well.

2340
01:49:28,760 --> 01:49:31,920
Speaker 1: And they've got Jordan Leggett who they drafted in the

2341
01:49:31,960 --> 01:49:33,840
Speaker 1: fifth round last year hope that he would be the

2342
01:49:33,920 --> 01:49:36,040
Speaker 1: starting tight end a year ago, but he suffered a

2343
01:49:36,080 --> 01:49:39,439
Speaker 1: knee injury in training camp last year didn't play. And

2344
01:49:39,720 --> 01:49:42,519
Speaker 1: the running back situation is in flux. They like Isaiah Crowell,

2345
01:49:42,520 --> 01:49:44,680
Speaker 1: a free agent signing that they had to bring some

2346
01:49:44,800 --> 01:49:47,800
Speaker 1: toughness to their offense, but there aren't any guys that

2347
01:49:47,880 --> 01:49:49,920
Speaker 1: you can really single out and say this guy is

2348
01:49:49,920 --> 01:49:52,559
Speaker 1: definitely going to be a difference maker on offense. Maybe

2349
01:49:52,680 --> 01:49:55,599
Speaker 1: Robbie Anderson. I don't know if Robbie Anderson's the number one,

2350
01:49:55,960 --> 01:49:57,599
Speaker 1: But there are a lot of question marks at those

2351
01:49:57,600 --> 01:50:00,400
Speaker 1: skill positions that are going to be knee that are

2352
01:50:00,439 --> 01:50:02,600
Speaker 1: going to need to be addressed moving forward. They're not

2353
01:50:02,640 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 1: going to solve that, of course at this point. But

2354
01:50:06,160 --> 01:50:09,200
Speaker 1: no matter who the quarterback is, and you would anticipate

2355
01:50:09,240 --> 01:50:10,960
Speaker 1: he would be Darnold for the second half of the

2356
01:50:11,000 --> 01:50:13,240
Speaker 1: season at the very least, they're gonna need some weapons

2357
01:50:13,320 --> 01:50:15,519
Speaker 1: moving forward to help out this young quarterback. Will their

2358
01:50:15,600 --> 01:50:19,000
Speaker 1: defense be good enough to keep them afloat? Well, you

2359
01:50:19,240 --> 01:50:22,040
Speaker 1: look on paper, the back end looks really good. They

2360
01:50:22,080 --> 01:50:24,760
Speaker 1: added Tremaine Johnson, so now you move Mo Claiborne to

2361
01:50:24,960 --> 01:50:27,160
Speaker 1: the number two cornerback spot. I think that's a pretty

2362
01:50:27,160 --> 01:50:32,240
Speaker 1: solid tandem if Claiborne can remain healthy. And as an aside,

2363
01:50:32,360 --> 01:50:35,000
Speaker 1: he's not currently healthy. Bruce a bone in his hand

2364
01:50:35,080 --> 01:50:38,280
Speaker 1: and he's not participating in OTAs. He won't participate in

2365
01:50:38,320 --> 01:50:39,960
Speaker 1: mini camps this week as well, and he's got a

2366
01:50:40,520 --> 01:50:44,120
Speaker 1: long history of injuries. So that's something to monitor your

2367
01:50:44,160 --> 01:50:47,599
Speaker 1: young safeties. Jamal Adams and Marcus May really did nice

2368
01:50:47,640 --> 01:50:51,759
Speaker 1: things last year. The thing to monitor for the Jets

2369
01:50:51,880 --> 01:50:53,880
Speaker 1: on the back end is whether Marcus May is going

2370
01:50:53,920 --> 01:50:55,840
Speaker 1: to be ready to go when training camp begins. This

2371
01:50:55,960 --> 01:50:59,360
Speaker 1: is a guy who underwent arthur scopic ankle surgery due

2372
01:50:59,400 --> 01:51:02,000
Speaker 1: to an injury suffered in Week seventeen last year. He

2373
01:51:02,040 --> 01:51:04,920
Speaker 1: has not participated in the offseason program at all, not

2374
01:51:05,120 --> 01:51:07,920
Speaker 1: no tas. He won't participate in minicamp this week, so

2375
01:51:08,040 --> 01:51:09,960
Speaker 1: you want to see how he bounces back. I think

2376
01:51:10,040 --> 01:51:11,680
Speaker 1: Jamal Adams is going to take the next step in

2377
01:51:11,760 --> 01:51:14,559
Speaker 1: his development He'll be fine. The big question mark guys

2378
01:51:14,560 --> 01:51:16,759
Speaker 1: for this defense is whether they can get consistent pressure

2379
01:51:16,840 --> 01:51:19,680
Speaker 1: on the quarterback. They didn't get very many sacks last year,

2380
01:51:20,040 --> 01:51:23,080
Speaker 1: bottom third of the league. Really no pressure off the edge.

2381
01:51:23,200 --> 01:51:26,320
Speaker 1: They haven't solved that issue at the outside linebacker spot.

2382
01:51:26,400 --> 01:51:29,240
Speaker 1: The one guy they rely on, Jordan Jenkins, is good

2383
01:51:29,320 --> 01:51:31,519
Speaker 1: at setting the edge, but he's a guy who hasn't

2384
01:51:31,560 --> 01:51:34,599
Speaker 1: even participated in team drills in OTAs and I wouldn't

2385
01:51:34,640 --> 01:51:37,320
Speaker 1: anticipate that he would participate in team drills in mini

2386
01:51:37,360 --> 01:51:40,160
Speaker 1: camp either, because he's dealing, from what I understand what

2387
01:51:40,400 --> 01:51:43,120
Speaker 1: he's dealing with a shoulder injury which has had a,

2388
01:51:43,360 --> 01:51:47,080
Speaker 1: you know, a lot of pain involved in it, and

2389
01:51:47,200 --> 01:51:49,080
Speaker 1: so I don't know if he's going to be ready

2390
01:51:49,120 --> 01:51:50,760
Speaker 1: for the start of training camp. But even if he were,

2391
01:51:50,840 --> 01:51:52,840
Speaker 1: he's not really a pass rusher. So how are they

2392
01:51:52,880 --> 01:51:54,639
Speaker 1: going to get to the quarterback? That's a big question.

2393
01:51:54,720 --> 01:51:57,040
Speaker 1: It's been a big question for this franchise for the

2394
01:51:57,120 --> 01:51:59,519
Speaker 1: better part of a decade and certainly for these first

2395
01:51:59,600 --> 01:52:01,680
Speaker 1: three or more years under Tod Bowls. So the last

2396
01:52:01,760 --> 01:52:04,080
Speaker 1: question I have for you is about Todd Bowles. I

2397
01:52:04,160 --> 01:52:05,800
Speaker 1: feel like I've asked this question a couple of times

2398
01:52:05,840 --> 01:52:07,880
Speaker 1: for you, but you know he's had a couple of

2399
01:52:07,960 --> 01:52:10,120
Speaker 1: rough years now and it looks like they're in a

2400
01:52:10,280 --> 01:52:12,599
Speaker 1: reset mode. But how long is the leash for Todd?

2401
01:52:12,640 --> 01:52:15,559
Speaker 1: Bowls and you know what you're feeling, You think you'll

2402
01:52:15,560 --> 01:52:17,639
Speaker 1: be around at the end of the twenty eighteen season

2403
01:52:17,720 --> 01:52:21,240
Speaker 1: with the Jets. Well, it's interesting because Christopher Johnson, Woody

2404
01:52:21,320 --> 01:52:23,599
Speaker 1: Johnson's brother, who's in charge of the day to day

2405
01:52:23,640 --> 01:52:28,360
Speaker 1: operations while Woody is the ambassador at the UK, gave

2406
01:52:28,439 --> 01:52:31,160
Speaker 1: these guys contract extensions. And why I'm meeting these guys,

2407
01:52:31,200 --> 01:52:33,640
Speaker 1: I mean Todd Bowles and the GM Mike mcagnet. So

2408
01:52:33,840 --> 01:52:36,400
Speaker 1: both of them are signed through twenty twenty. Obviously, that

2409
01:52:36,439 --> 01:52:39,040
Speaker 1: doesn't guarantee they're going to be around until twenty twenty,

2410
01:52:39,439 --> 01:52:42,840
Speaker 1: but I would anticipate, unless the bottom really falls out

2411
01:52:43,960 --> 01:52:47,280
Speaker 1: in twenty and eighteen, I would anticipate Bowls and mccagnet

2412
01:52:47,360 --> 01:52:50,360
Speaker 1: back in two thousand and nineteen. It is an interesting dynamic.

2413
01:52:50,439 --> 01:52:53,400
Speaker 1: You talked about the reset mode. This is technically year four,

2414
01:52:54,040 --> 01:52:57,280
Speaker 1: they're twenty and what are they twenty and something like

2415
01:52:57,439 --> 01:53:00,560
Speaker 1: thirty two or no twenty and five, eleven five and

2416
01:53:00,640 --> 01:53:03,040
Speaker 1: eleven and ten and six. So look, they've only won

2417
01:53:03,080 --> 01:53:07,000
Speaker 1: twenty games in three years. Basically, that doesn't bode well

2418
01:53:07,080 --> 01:53:10,720
Speaker 1: for your future. But I think people realize that, you know,

2419
01:53:10,840 --> 01:53:13,720
Speaker 1: they kind of got lightning in a bottle with two

2420
01:53:13,840 --> 01:53:16,880
Speaker 1: veteran quarterbacks in those first two years, Ryan Fitzpatrick a

2421
01:53:16,960 --> 01:53:20,320
Speaker 1: few years ago and then Josh McCown last year. So

2422
01:53:21,040 --> 01:53:23,959
Speaker 1: you know, if they're gonna really set a proper foundation

2423
01:53:24,080 --> 01:53:26,400
Speaker 1: with a young quarterback, which is what they're doing now

2424
01:53:26,840 --> 01:53:29,439
Speaker 1: with Sam Donold, I think you really kind of need

2425
01:53:29,520 --> 01:53:31,519
Speaker 1: to give these guys a little bit of time. So now,

2426
01:53:31,600 --> 01:53:35,679
Speaker 1: barring something catastrophic, I would anticipate this team would miss

2427
01:53:35,760 --> 01:53:38,080
Speaker 1: the playoffs in two and eighteen, but the head coach

2428
01:53:38,120 --> 01:53:41,000
Speaker 1: and the general manager to return in two thou and nineteen.

2429
01:53:41,280 --> 01:53:43,600
Speaker 1: All Right, well, see, Manie, thanks for they appreciate it.

2430
01:53:43,960 --> 01:53:46,240
Speaker 1: Thanks guys, take care. Nie Sma, who governs the New

2431
01:53:46,320 --> 01:53:48,000
Speaker 1: York Jets for the New York Daily News, done it

2432
01:53:48,040 --> 01:53:50,919
Speaker 1: for nine years. The Jets Beat reporter is the SNY

2433
01:53:51,280 --> 01:53:54,000
Speaker 1: Jets Insider New York Daily News. Countess, you joined us

2434
01:53:54,000 --> 01:53:57,439
Speaker 1: on the subway fresh Lake Huntline, subway eat fresh Moniche

2435
01:53:57,520 --> 01:54:00,280
Speaker 1: writes a lot. Yeah, he's got a lot, of material allowed,

2436
01:54:00,320 --> 01:54:02,439
Speaker 1: and yeah, you can. You can read a lot of

2437
01:54:02,479 --> 01:54:05,000
Speaker 1: his stuff, and he's there. It seems like he must

2438
01:54:05,040 --> 01:54:06,920
Speaker 1: be out. He must be there every day talking to

2439
01:54:07,000 --> 01:54:10,519
Speaker 1: these guys, and it's a hard market to get into,

2440
01:54:10,640 --> 01:54:13,120
Speaker 1: but he is h He's one of the main beat

2441
01:54:13,160 --> 01:54:15,479
Speaker 1: writers the Jets deal with most of the time. I'm

2442
01:54:15,520 --> 01:54:17,880
Speaker 1: sure he's pretty a pretty familiar face in their building.

2443
01:54:17,920 --> 01:54:20,320
Speaker 1: And he he keeps his finger on the pulse. You

2444
01:54:20,360 --> 01:54:23,000
Speaker 1: can tell he's one of those guys that has an

2445
01:54:23,040 --> 01:54:26,240
Speaker 1: opinion about every position. I found myself rooting for Todd

2446
01:54:26,280 --> 01:54:29,479
Speaker 1: Bowls to succeed. I mean, okay, the Jets. I don't

2447
01:54:29,520 --> 01:54:31,240
Speaker 1: want him to succeed at these types of the bills,

2448
01:54:31,520 --> 01:54:33,800
Speaker 1: but I just think he's a He's a down to earth,

2449
01:54:33,920 --> 01:54:36,720
Speaker 1: solid guy who gets players to play hard, which is

2450
01:54:36,960 --> 01:54:39,000
Speaker 1: a big part of his job. And I think he's

2451
01:54:39,040 --> 01:54:41,200
Speaker 1: been putting in a difficult spot here, Steve, a difficult

2452
01:54:41,240 --> 01:54:43,280
Speaker 1: spot for the last couple of years actually, and now

2453
01:54:43,360 --> 01:54:45,280
Speaker 1: this year, as they said a reset. You know they're

2454
01:54:45,320 --> 01:54:49,760
Speaker 1: restarting a rookie quarterback if they go with Darnold, and

2455
01:54:49,880 --> 01:54:51,600
Speaker 1: I know he'll be good someday. I think he'll be

2456
01:54:51,680 --> 01:54:53,520
Speaker 1: good some day in the NFL. But you have to

2457
01:54:53,600 --> 01:54:56,520
Speaker 1: take that into consideration when you look at Todd Bowls

2458
01:54:56,560 --> 01:54:59,160
Speaker 1: and you evaluate the job he's done. You know, we

2459
01:54:59,240 --> 01:55:00,760
Speaker 1: had a couple of rough and then we threw you.

2460
01:55:01,280 --> 01:55:03,400
Speaker 1: We threw a rookie quarterback at you. Good luck with

2461
01:55:03,480 --> 01:55:06,120
Speaker 1: that coach, right, Christopher Johnson. The guys, like he said,

2462
01:55:06,240 --> 01:55:08,800
Speaker 1: is Woody Johnson, the owner, his brother, his running day

2463
01:55:08,840 --> 01:55:10,920
Speaker 1: to day operations. He came out of last year and said, listen,

2464
01:55:10,960 --> 01:55:12,160
Speaker 1: I just want this team to be going in the

2465
01:55:12,280 --> 01:55:14,120
Speaker 1: right direction. I don't He didn't put any numbers on

2466
01:55:14,200 --> 01:55:15,800
Speaker 1: how many wins they gotta have or all of that,

2467
01:55:15,880 --> 01:55:18,320
Speaker 1: but he wants this program, the jet to look like

2468
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:20,600
Speaker 1: they're up and coming from a spot where they've been.

2469
01:55:21,080 --> 01:55:23,080
Speaker 1: If that's the case, he's gonna give Todd Bulls the

2470
01:55:23,120 --> 01:55:26,840
Speaker 1: credit for that now, I think. And if you're if

2471
01:55:26,880 --> 01:55:29,920
Speaker 1: you're have the presence of mind as a as an

2472
01:55:29,960 --> 01:55:32,360
Speaker 1: owner to understand that's the way it's supposed to look.

2473
01:55:32,400 --> 01:55:34,640
Speaker 1: You also got to understand that when you deal the

2474
01:55:34,680 --> 01:55:37,640
Speaker 1: guy a rookie quarterback with some pressure and some expectations,

2475
01:55:37,920 --> 01:55:39,960
Speaker 1: you're gonna look, You're gonna have some rough days in

2476
01:55:40,040 --> 01:55:43,200
Speaker 1: the coming year. Even so, maniche Meta told us just

2477
01:55:43,360 --> 01:55:48,120
Speaker 1: now Sam Darnold's gonna play quite a bit in twenty eighteen. Uh.

2478
01:55:48,280 --> 01:55:52,280
Speaker 1: Their quarterback situation with Josh McCown is short lived at

2479
01:55:52,320 --> 01:55:57,240
Speaker 1: best with McCown at quarterback and so he But like

2480
01:55:57,400 --> 01:55:59,920
Speaker 1: we've said here with the Buffalo Bills, if you've got

2481
01:56:00,080 --> 01:56:03,240
Speaker 1: a guy, if they're winning games and Josh McCown is

2482
01:56:03,280 --> 01:56:05,080
Speaker 1: one of the reasons they're winning games, or certainly not

2483
01:56:05,160 --> 01:56:06,880
Speaker 1: one of the reasons they lose any games that they

2484
01:56:06,920 --> 01:56:09,800
Speaker 1: do lose, you don't make that switch. There has to

2485
01:56:09,880 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 1: be a concrete reason you make that switch on the

2486
01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:15,800
Speaker 1: football with this team this year, not about because you

2487
01:56:15,920 --> 01:56:18,400
Speaker 1: drafted this guy. It's got to be about your team

2488
01:56:18,480 --> 01:56:21,600
Speaker 1: playing every Sunday. There has to be a solid reason

2489
01:56:22,120 --> 01:56:25,600
Speaker 1: on that in that realm before you make the switch.

2490
01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:28,240
Speaker 1: You don't pull a quarterback from a really good team

2491
01:56:28,360 --> 01:56:30,280
Speaker 1: unless he's part of the reason you're not winning or

2492
01:56:30,480 --> 01:56:33,920
Speaker 1: struggling when you do win. Um, he's you know. So

2493
01:56:33,960 --> 01:56:36,080
Speaker 1: if Josh McCown comes up plays steady like he did

2494
01:56:36,200 --> 01:56:39,200
Speaker 1: this last year, why would they switch if other than

2495
01:56:39,240 --> 01:56:40,640
Speaker 1: the fact that they got this guy, they want to

2496
01:56:40,680 --> 01:56:43,720
Speaker 1: look at that's a big reason. Because they got the draft,

2497
01:56:43,920 --> 01:56:46,600
Speaker 1: if they're five and four, not if they're six and three.

2498
01:56:47,880 --> 01:56:51,440
Speaker 1: If they're five and five, I still think there's They

2499
01:56:51,520 --> 01:56:53,160
Speaker 1: got the second overall pick in the draft. They got

2500
01:56:53,200 --> 01:56:55,440
Speaker 1: a quarterback that many teams would have loved to have,

2501
01:56:55,560 --> 01:56:57,960
Speaker 1: including the Bills. The Bills like Sam down down Old

2502
01:56:58,000 --> 01:57:01,480
Speaker 1: a lot um. Sure, they're not gonna they're not going

2503
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:03,640
Speaker 1: to challenge for a playoff spot, So yeah, at some

2504
01:57:03,800 --> 01:57:09,880
Speaker 1: point they don't. But what if him accounts getting the

2505
01:57:10,000 --> 01:57:11,440
Speaker 1: end of the year. If he's the best option in

2506
01:57:11,440 --> 01:57:13,560
Speaker 1: the end of the year with seven wins, good for you.

2507
01:57:16,000 --> 01:57:17,920
Speaker 1: You got to get and get to the end of

2508
01:57:17,920 --> 01:57:19,920
Speaker 1: the year with two wins. Look if the Bills, the

2509
01:57:20,040 --> 01:57:24,080
Speaker 1: Bills are almost the whole similar situation, the situation targeted

2510
01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,200
Speaker 1: for a seven win season, and you're a couple of

2511
01:57:26,280 --> 01:57:28,040
Speaker 1: months in. I don't have a problem saying, hey, we

2512
01:57:28,080 --> 01:57:30,200
Speaker 1: want to get Josh Allen snaps. Now, we're probably not

2513
01:57:30,240 --> 01:57:32,920
Speaker 1: going to make the playoffs. Were whatever five and six,

2514
01:57:33,320 --> 01:57:35,320
Speaker 1: and we you know, it's an uphill climb. Let's take

2515
01:57:35,360 --> 01:57:36,960
Speaker 1: a look at Josh Allen. I'm on board with that.

2516
01:57:37,280 --> 01:57:40,480
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, you and I are. I think most fans

2517
01:57:40,520 --> 01:57:43,400
Speaker 1: would be. Yeah, but most fans aren't getting their heads

2518
01:57:43,400 --> 01:57:45,840
Speaker 1: caved in every Sunday for for a team that's not

2519
01:57:45,920 --> 01:57:49,440
Speaker 1: giving them the best chance to win. They're getting paid.

2520
01:57:50,480 --> 01:57:52,839
Speaker 1: I think they know the deal. It's a rookie quarterback

2521
01:57:53,000 --> 01:57:56,040
Speaker 1: in this case, uh you knowsh Allen and in their

2522
01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,560
Speaker 1: case the Jets, it's uh Sam Darnold. That's not the

2523
01:57:58,680 --> 01:58:01,080
Speaker 1: rhetoric the process is putting out, you know. I mean,

2524
01:58:01,160 --> 01:58:03,240
Speaker 1: that's they want to they want to get. They want

2525
01:58:03,280 --> 01:58:05,880
Speaker 1: to give themselves the best chance to win every every week,

2526
01:58:06,160 --> 01:58:10,480
Speaker 1: despite despite what the record says they could do or

2527
01:58:10,520 --> 01:58:12,240
Speaker 1: should do. And we'll see how it plays out. I

2528
01:58:12,280 --> 01:58:14,000
Speaker 1: think it. It's interesting though. The Jets are in a

2529
01:58:14,120 --> 01:58:16,280
Speaker 1: very similar situation of the Bill. They've got Josh McCown.

2530
01:58:16,280 --> 01:58:17,880
Speaker 1: The Buffalo Bills have a j I would say the

2531
01:58:17,920 --> 01:58:20,880
Speaker 1: Bills have more talent either, I would. We'd like to

2532
01:58:20,920 --> 01:58:24,520
Speaker 1: say that again success we're not yet. That's true. That's true.

2533
01:58:25,160 --> 01:58:27,280
Speaker 1: Does that mean the expectations are higher for a rookie

2534
01:58:27,360 --> 01:58:29,520
Speaker 1: quarterback coming in or does it mean the you know

2535
01:58:29,560 --> 01:58:31,600
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, overall expectations I think here are a

2536
01:58:31,640 --> 01:58:34,480
Speaker 1: little bit higher than the Jet yet for good reason.

2537
01:58:35,720 --> 01:58:37,760
Speaker 1: So does that mean does that mean AJ gets a

2538
01:58:37,840 --> 01:58:41,280
Speaker 1: longer leash or shorter leash. I don't know, see what

2539
01:58:41,320 --> 01:58:43,880
Speaker 1: I mean, See what I mean. Yeah, Josh Allen gets

2540
01:58:43,920 --> 01:58:45,840
Speaker 1: a shorter lease. He's thirty eight, and he's already they've

2541
01:58:45,840 --> 01:58:48,960
Speaker 1: already said he says all support in a yeah. McCown

2542
01:58:49,000 --> 01:58:53,440
Speaker 1: said that. So I get that, and they're in kind

2543
01:58:53,520 --> 01:58:55,240
Speaker 1: of the same situation. But it is a little different

2544
01:58:55,240 --> 01:58:57,640
Speaker 1: in Buffalo, I think because the expectations are a hair higher.

2545
01:58:57,680 --> 01:59:00,360
Speaker 1: I think they are. Hey, we mentioned earlier about half

2546
01:59:00,400 --> 01:59:02,640
Speaker 1: hour ago, so about our buddy Marcus Cooper who left

2547
01:59:02,680 --> 01:59:05,520
Speaker 1: the Bills as a Scout Blessedo Scout to take a

2548
01:59:05,640 --> 01:59:09,320
Speaker 1: job with the New York Giants Southeast Regional Scout. Congratulations

2549
01:59:09,400 --> 01:59:11,680
Speaker 1: to him. The Bills have filled that position this afternoon,

2550
01:59:12,040 --> 01:59:15,560
Speaker 1: naming Keith Jennings as their new Blessto college scout. Jennings

2551
01:59:16,280 --> 01:59:19,120
Speaker 1: college football out stand out at Clemson and then played

2552
01:59:19,160 --> 01:59:21,120
Speaker 1: tight end in the NFL from nineteen eighty nine to

2553
01:59:21,280 --> 01:59:23,120
Speaker 1: nineteen eighty eight, most of that time with the Bears

2554
01:59:23,560 --> 01:59:26,000
Speaker 1: for about seven years. Also played with the Cowboys, the Broncos,

2555
01:59:26,080 --> 01:59:28,720
Speaker 1: Detroit Lions. He spent training camp last year with the

2556
01:59:28,760 --> 01:59:31,240
Speaker 1: Bills as part of the nun Wooden Scouting Fellowship. He

2557
01:59:31,400 --> 01:59:34,640
Speaker 1: also assisted Clemsons program in a mentor coaching role and

2558
01:59:34,800 --> 01:59:38,520
Speaker 1: completed his degree in business at Clemson. Keith Jennings, former

2559
01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:42,320
Speaker 1: NFL tight end, is now the Bills Blessedo College Scout.

2560
01:59:42,440 --> 01:59:44,960
Speaker 1: A good addition to our scouting staff. According to Bills

2561
01:59:45,000 --> 01:59:47,160
Speaker 1: GM Brandon Bean, all right, we're gonna break. We're back

2562
01:59:47,200 --> 01:59:49,080
Speaker 1: with more. We're gonna hear what Josh Allen had to

2563
01:59:49,120 --> 01:59:52,680
Speaker 1: say on our show earlier this day, about noon or

2564
01:59:52,720 --> 01:59:55,320
Speaker 1: so twelve thirty. Also, NFL tour falls coming up, so

2565
01:59:55,480 --> 01:59:58,200
Speaker 1: come on back. One Bill's Live presented by Kalada Health

2566
01:59:58,240 --> 02:00:13,920
Speaker 1: from One Bill's Drive. This is Buffalo Bill's Radio. The

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02:00:14,040 --> 02:00:17,240
Speaker 1: show just rolls along from Orchard Park, New Airfield on

2568
02:00:17,320 --> 02:00:21,520
Speaker 1: a beautiful Monday afternoons in Western New York. It's beautiful.

2569
02:00:22,000 --> 02:00:24,160
Speaker 1: I'm afraid to look. It's one of those afraid to

2570
02:00:24,240 --> 02:00:26,440
Speaker 1: look outside. It was like this every day. There'd be

2571
02:00:26,480 --> 02:00:29,840
Speaker 1: six million people living in Western New York, and it

2572
02:00:29,840 --> 02:00:32,640
Speaker 1: would we ruin it. It would ruin it. We'd all

2573
02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:36,400
Speaker 1: be buddies. We'd need an occasional snowstorm to keep the

2574
02:00:37,360 --> 02:00:40,600
Speaker 1: riff rap out of our town. Right to call the

2575
02:00:42,280 --> 02:00:45,520
Speaker 1: the herd a little bit hey um Twitter poll today.

2576
02:00:45,600 --> 02:00:48,480
Speaker 1: The Bill's Top Ten series starts tonight on MG eight o'clock.

2577
02:00:49,040 --> 02:00:51,080
Speaker 1: Top ten the next three weeks tonight? Is it the

2578
02:00:51,120 --> 02:00:53,880
Speaker 1: next three weeks? Yeah? Eleven eighteen twenty five tonight. Top

2579
02:00:54,000 --> 02:00:56,560
Speaker 1: ten Trades in Bill's History got us to this, what's

2580
02:00:56,560 --> 02:01:00,320
Speaker 1: your favorite trade in Bill's History? And why your favorite trade?

2581
02:01:00,440 --> 02:01:02,040
Speaker 1: Not maybe the best, but your favorite. We've heard a

2582
02:01:02,080 --> 02:01:04,240
Speaker 1: lot of good suggestions today. Give us a call, we'll

2583
02:01:04,280 --> 02:01:06,280
Speaker 1: talk about it. Eight oh three h five fifty or

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02:01:06,400 --> 02:01:09,840
Speaker 1: two three one eight eight by fifty two five fifty

2585
02:01:10,160 --> 02:01:12,400
Speaker 1: or doing on Twitter. We've had a couple of good

2586
02:01:12,560 --> 02:01:18,920
Speaker 1: suggestions on Twitter. Jakin tang tweets and call me young

2587
02:01:19,720 --> 02:01:24,400
Speaker 1: or recently biased. But the trade for Shady McCoy takes

2588
02:01:24,440 --> 02:01:26,640
Speaker 1: it for me. It is too fun watching him put

2589
02:01:26,720 --> 02:01:30,080
Speaker 1: tacklers on skates. Yeah, the trade for Shady, Yeah, that's

2590
02:01:30,200 --> 02:01:35,600
Speaker 1: that's I can see why that'd be somebody's freight favorite. Absolutely, absolutely,

2591
02:01:35,840 --> 02:01:38,360
Speaker 1: and too early to t's another thing from Steve Noble.

2592
02:01:38,400 --> 02:01:39,760
Speaker 1: Too early to tell. But if they do this show

2593
02:01:39,760 --> 02:01:41,520
Speaker 1: again in twenty years, we may say that last year's

2594
02:01:41,560 --> 02:01:45,640
Speaker 1: Trade with the Chiefs got us Tredavious White and Tremaine Edmonds. Well,

2595
02:01:45,680 --> 02:01:47,880
Speaker 1: that's a really good point. They could be the next

2596
02:01:47,920 --> 02:01:50,560
Speaker 1: defensive cornerstones for years to come. Wow, just think about that.

2597
02:01:51,240 --> 02:01:54,160
Speaker 1: He traded down, They moved down to get Tredavious White

2598
02:01:54,200 --> 02:01:56,640
Speaker 1: and got Tremaine Edmonds with the two and then gave

2599
02:01:56,720 --> 02:02:00,640
Speaker 1: the Chiefs Mahomes. Depends on It depends on what. It

2600
02:02:00,760 --> 02:02:03,040
Speaker 1: always depends on both sides of that trade. If Mahomes

2601
02:02:03,120 --> 02:02:07,440
Speaker 1: turns into you know, Dan Marino, then it's different. Even

2602
02:02:07,480 --> 02:02:12,080
Speaker 1: if Turdavious White turns into um, you know, well you

2603
02:02:12,280 --> 02:02:15,720
Speaker 1: my canes and Edmands turns into In order to consider

2604
02:02:15,800 --> 02:02:18,320
Speaker 1: a trade good or important or even in this context,

2605
02:02:18,440 --> 02:02:21,400
Speaker 1: favorite trade, do you need to steal a player from somebody?

2606
02:02:21,520 --> 02:02:24,600
Speaker 1: Can't you gotta get the best of it? Do you like? What?

2607
02:02:24,840 --> 02:02:26,680
Speaker 1: What ift to be your favorite trade? If you didn't

2608
02:02:26,720 --> 02:02:29,360
Speaker 1: get a good player, but we got you know, we

2609
02:02:29,440 --> 02:02:32,640
Speaker 1: got Turdavious White last year and they got Tremaine Edmands

2610
02:02:32,720 --> 02:02:35,240
Speaker 1: this year, why can't Why can't people enjoy that? Why

2611
02:02:35,280 --> 02:02:39,560
Speaker 1: do you gotta have well suffer? If your favorite trade,

2612
02:02:39,640 --> 02:02:41,800
Speaker 1: you don't have to really justify it too much. It's

2613
02:02:41,840 --> 02:02:43,760
Speaker 1: your favorite, it's your favorite. I guess I get that.

2614
02:02:44,040 --> 02:02:48,240
Speaker 1: But to me, it is, but it's it doesn't have

2615
02:02:48,360 --> 02:02:50,560
Speaker 1: to be good or bad, doesn't is irrelevant if it's

2616
02:02:50,560 --> 02:02:52,760
Speaker 1: your favorite trade just because they get a It could

2617
02:02:52,800 --> 02:02:54,120
Speaker 1: be just because they get a player that you like.

2618
02:02:54,960 --> 02:02:56,760
Speaker 1: It didn't, couldn't. It doesn't have to be anything about

2619
02:02:56,800 --> 02:02:58,560
Speaker 1: Tredavious right, It didn't have to be. It could be

2620
02:02:58,680 --> 02:03:00,720
Speaker 1: just Turdavious White. It doesn't have to be about Tremaine

2621
02:03:00,760 --> 02:03:03,400
Speaker 1: Edmonds or Patrick Mahomes. If they brought you Tredavious White,

2622
02:03:03,400 --> 02:03:05,160
Speaker 1: that could be your favorite trade just for that reason.

2623
02:03:05,360 --> 02:03:09,000
Speaker 1: All right, side, that's right. Let's you're getting hung up.

2624
02:03:09,160 --> 02:03:10,960
Speaker 1: See now you're hey, I'm just going with a pole.

2625
02:03:11,160 --> 02:03:13,840
Speaker 1: Well Twitter twits for a second, all right, What if

2626
02:03:13,920 --> 02:03:15,640
Speaker 1: the best trade in Bill's history is the one that

2627
02:03:15,760 --> 02:03:19,080
Speaker 1: brought Tredavious White and Tremaine Edmonds here and they're both

2628
02:03:19,160 --> 02:03:22,080
Speaker 1: great and pat Ma Holmes is pretty good at Kansas City.

2629
02:03:22,400 --> 02:03:24,120
Speaker 1: Couldn't that be the best trade in Bill's history? Do

2630
02:03:24,200 --> 02:03:26,240
Speaker 1: you have to steal somebody blind in order to have

2631
02:03:26,360 --> 02:03:29,920
Speaker 1: that be a really good trade? I don't think so. Well,

2632
02:03:30,000 --> 02:03:31,960
Speaker 1: then you got to well, it wouldn't be the best

2633
02:03:32,000 --> 02:03:34,880
Speaker 1: trade then because you gave up Mahomes and Mahomes turned

2634
02:03:34,880 --> 02:03:38,080
Speaker 1: into what maybe a two time super Bowl quarterback? You know,

2635
02:03:38,520 --> 02:03:41,360
Speaker 1: is it right? I mean that's the question, right Maybe maybe?

2636
02:03:41,520 --> 02:03:44,440
Speaker 1: But then again, Tradevious White and Tremaine Edmonds might be

2637
02:03:45,600 --> 02:03:48,080
Speaker 1: six time All Pros at their spots, you know, and

2638
02:03:48,160 --> 02:03:51,360
Speaker 1: then okay, you know they might play the mouth hite

2639
02:03:51,400 --> 02:03:54,600
Speaker 1: and have double digit years here in Buffalo. Take this

2640
02:03:54,680 --> 02:03:58,440
Speaker 1: team to the playoffs, a couple of Super Bowls themselves. Yeah,

2641
02:03:58,520 --> 02:04:01,200
Speaker 1: that that'd be a pretty good trade. Michael Borden Arrow

2642
02:04:01,240 --> 02:04:03,400
Speaker 1: tweets in one that I noted on the piece we

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02:04:03,440 --> 02:04:05,680
Speaker 1: did at Buffalo bills dot com. He says the worst

2644
02:04:05,720 --> 02:04:08,720
Speaker 1: trade the Bills ever made March nineteen sixty seven Darryl

2645
02:04:08,760 --> 02:04:12,160
Speaker 1: Lamonica and Glenn Basta Oakland for Tom Flores and Art Powell. Yeah,

2646
02:04:12,560 --> 02:04:14,040
Speaker 1: it was. It was a tough one for the Bills.

2647
02:04:14,080 --> 02:04:16,040
Speaker 1: That was a bad trade. The Bills gave up Darrel

2648
02:04:16,080 --> 02:04:18,680
Speaker 1: Lamonica who went to Super Bowls with the Oakland Raiders,

2649
02:04:19,120 --> 02:04:21,560
Speaker 1: and got Tom Flores and our POWLO. Flory's a better

2650
02:04:21,600 --> 02:04:24,600
Speaker 1: coach than than quarterback. Um. That was a tough one

2651
02:04:24,640 --> 02:04:27,160
Speaker 1: that did not go Buffalo's way. I don't think Keith

2652
02:04:27,160 --> 02:04:28,880
Speaker 1: Lincoln was involved in that one. I should have made

2653
02:04:28,880 --> 02:04:34,560
Speaker 1: Tom Flores the head coach back then in that trade. Yeah. Hey,

2654
02:04:34,600 --> 02:04:37,280
Speaker 1: we had Josh Allen on the show earlier. Uh And

2655
02:04:37,480 --> 02:04:39,640
Speaker 1: a tweet from Billy eighty eight, who says, did he

2656
02:04:39,680 --> 02:04:41,920
Speaker 1: sign his contract yet? He is not? At least I

2657
02:04:41,960 --> 02:04:43,880
Speaker 1: haven't announced it. He didn't tell he going to be

2658
02:04:43,920 --> 02:04:47,000
Speaker 1: a problem. I wouldn't tell us he did not gonna

2659
02:04:47,000 --> 02:04:48,880
Speaker 1: be a problem. Josh Allen will sign. He will be

2660
02:04:48,960 --> 02:04:51,640
Speaker 1: a Buffalo bill And I think, you know, if I'm

2661
02:04:51,680 --> 02:04:54,800
Speaker 1: a betting man, I'm betting they announced his signing sometime

2662
02:04:54,840 --> 02:04:55,960
Speaker 1: in the next week or so. What do you think

2663
02:04:56,000 --> 02:04:57,760
Speaker 1: of that, Steve? Now, we don't know. Yeah, and believe me,

2664
02:04:57,800 --> 02:05:00,400
Speaker 1: we're sitting here and we don't have any we don't know.

2665
02:05:00,520 --> 02:05:02,160
Speaker 1: In fact, we were at looking at each other after

2666
02:05:02,280 --> 02:05:04,800
Speaker 1: he came in. He you know, he's made a couple

2667
02:05:04,840 --> 02:05:07,480
Speaker 1: of he's made a big purchase here, and he tell

2668
02:05:07,520 --> 02:05:09,600
Speaker 1: us he's signed a contracts you know, because of it

2669
02:05:09,800 --> 02:05:11,760
Speaker 1: or before it. So we have no, we don't have

2670
02:05:11,800 --> 02:05:14,080
Speaker 1: any idea. We don't know, but he'll when he does,

2671
02:05:14,160 --> 02:05:15,960
Speaker 1: you'll find out, no question, that'll be the story of

2672
02:05:15,960 --> 02:05:18,600
Speaker 1: the day. He's not going anywhere, He's not going anywhere.

2673
02:05:18,800 --> 02:05:20,960
Speaker 1: He's here, he'll be He's not going anywhere. But we

2674
02:05:21,080 --> 02:05:23,800
Speaker 1: did have a Josh Allen on the show a little

2675
02:05:23,800 --> 02:05:26,880
Speaker 1: bit earlier, and he talked about a variety of topics

2676
02:05:26,960 --> 02:05:29,480
Speaker 1: with us. The bill's a quarterback. I can't get to

2677
02:05:29,600 --> 02:05:31,600
Speaker 1: our rundown though for whatever reason. See if can you

2678
02:05:31,640 --> 02:05:33,480
Speaker 1: have the rundown? I do have the rundown? Would you

2679
02:05:33,600 --> 02:05:36,080
Speaker 1: toss to the correct SoundBite? Yes, I will. We asked

2680
02:05:36,160 --> 02:05:40,360
Speaker 1: Josh Allen about if he looks forward to taking a

2681
02:05:40,400 --> 02:05:43,480
Speaker 1: vacation after this mini camp. Is he looking forward to

2682
02:05:43,520 --> 02:05:45,280
Speaker 1: a little time off. He's been here for a few weeks.

2683
02:05:45,320 --> 02:05:46,640
Speaker 1: He's ready for some time off. And this is what

2684
02:05:46,760 --> 02:05:52,400
Speaker 1: Josh Allen had to say to us today. We don't

2685
02:05:52,440 --> 02:05:55,200
Speaker 1: have that. That's not one of them what it says

2686
02:05:55,240 --> 02:05:59,400
Speaker 1: it in the rundown. Okay, uh, I got you. Well,

2687
02:05:59,520 --> 02:06:02,120
Speaker 1: you know what, that's crazy. Here we goes, I don't know.

2688
02:06:03,000 --> 02:06:05,360
Speaker 1: I don't have to. I don't have the rundown either. Oh,

2689
02:06:05,440 --> 02:06:07,640
Speaker 1: this this is on, We asked him. So we had

2690
02:06:07,720 --> 02:06:10,200
Speaker 1: Josh Allen on now that we're a total wreck here

2691
02:06:10,280 --> 02:06:13,200
Speaker 1: in this second. I can't help you. We're working, we

2692
02:06:13,240 --> 02:06:15,480
Speaker 1: asked him. We asked him about We asked him about

2693
02:06:15,480 --> 02:06:17,840
Speaker 1: working with Brian Dable and how how hard he's getting

2694
02:06:17,840 --> 02:06:19,840
Speaker 1: coached by Brian Dable. And this is what Josh Allen

2695
02:06:19,880 --> 02:06:23,480
Speaker 1: told us about being coached by the former Alabama offensive coordinator.

2696
02:06:25,800 --> 02:06:30,640
Speaker 1: He's very outspoken. He does get fiery sometimes, but you know,

2697
02:06:30,960 --> 02:06:33,920
Speaker 1: he's very attentive to details, and he wants to push

2698
02:06:34,000 --> 02:06:37,120
Speaker 1: that along to us and to our players, into our teammates.

2699
02:06:37,160 --> 02:06:38,960
Speaker 1: And that's what he's kind of been doing this past

2700
02:06:39,000 --> 02:06:41,520
Speaker 1: few weeks, just making sure that he's in our ear.

2701
02:06:41,600 --> 02:06:43,280
Speaker 1: He's making sure we're doing the right things, making the

2702
02:06:43,440 --> 02:06:46,800
Speaker 1: right checks um and then watching the and when we're

2703
02:06:46,840 --> 02:06:48,960
Speaker 1: watching film, he's making sure we're watching the right things

2704
02:06:49,680 --> 02:06:51,680
Speaker 1: and just trying to process it through our minds and

2705
02:06:52,360 --> 02:06:54,400
Speaker 1: so when we do go out in the field, we can,

2706
02:06:54,680 --> 02:06:58,400
Speaker 1: you know, transition and put it onto the field. When

2707
02:06:58,440 --> 02:07:01,240
Speaker 1: you watch Josh Allen, as they said to Josh, when

2708
02:07:01,240 --> 02:07:03,600
Speaker 1: who's sitting here at practice and he's like this with

2709
02:07:03,680 --> 02:07:06,560
Speaker 1: all the quarterbacks, Brian Dable is literally a bit of

2710
02:07:06,600 --> 02:07:10,760
Speaker 1: an exaggeration. Here within arms reach of Allen or any

2711
02:07:10,800 --> 02:07:13,320
Speaker 1: of them, any of the three dabele is right there

2712
02:07:13,360 --> 02:07:14,640
Speaker 1: in their face. You can even see it. Some of

2713
02:07:14,680 --> 02:07:17,400
Speaker 1: the video of the folks on MSG saw Josh Allen

2714
02:07:17,480 --> 02:07:19,960
Speaker 1: dropping back to pass and it's Brian Dabell who's got

2715
02:07:20,000 --> 02:07:22,320
Speaker 1: a hand in his chasing him. Yeah, I mean, yeah,

2716
02:07:22,400 --> 02:07:25,120
Speaker 1: it's it's pretty I didn't look. I never saw Brian

2717
02:07:25,200 --> 02:07:27,160
Speaker 1: Dable as a coordinator anywhere, and I never really saw

2718
02:07:27,240 --> 02:07:29,760
Speaker 1: him coach anywhere, not at allamamma, not in the NFL,

2719
02:07:30,000 --> 02:07:31,520
Speaker 1: so I didn't know what his style was or what

2720
02:07:31,680 --> 02:07:34,600
Speaker 1: his on field the look would be. It's pretty apparent

2721
02:07:34,680 --> 02:07:36,360
Speaker 1: he wants to be right next to the quarterbacks and

2722
02:07:36,520 --> 02:07:38,680
Speaker 1: deal with him on every snap. Oh, he's talking all

2723
02:07:38,680 --> 02:07:40,640
Speaker 1: the time, and he's and he's coaching him hard. He's

2724
02:07:40,760 --> 02:07:43,720
Speaker 1: he's like animated and he's loud enough you know that

2725
02:07:45,120 --> 02:07:47,320
Speaker 1: he's getting his message across. There's no question about he's

2726
02:07:47,320 --> 02:07:49,080
Speaker 1: not shy, and I guess, you know, at this level

2727
02:07:49,120 --> 02:07:53,240
Speaker 1: you never should be. But Josh Allen, AJ mccaren, Nate Peterman,

2728
02:07:53,240 --> 02:07:55,680
Speaker 1: they're bringing these guys in and they're all young, and

2729
02:07:55,840 --> 02:07:57,960
Speaker 1: they all seem way into it. They like being coached

2730
02:07:58,040 --> 02:07:59,760
Speaker 1: like that, and it's a good thing because Dave Ball's

2731
02:07:59,800 --> 02:08:02,680
Speaker 1: given into him. You know, sometimes you see offensive coordinators

2732
02:08:02,720 --> 02:08:05,320
Speaker 1: who you know their play callers and they stand off

2733
02:08:05,320 --> 02:08:07,200
Speaker 1: to the side. And again, if you got a vettern,

2734
02:08:07,240 --> 02:08:09,960
Speaker 1: it's easier stand to the side, relay the plane and

2735
02:08:10,040 --> 02:08:11,840
Speaker 1: just stand there and watch her from the sidelines. Exactly.

2736
02:08:11,920 --> 02:08:13,160
Speaker 1: I don't think we get all the time. You're not

2737
02:08:13,200 --> 02:08:15,160
Speaker 1: gonna get that from Brian Dable. That's gonna be in

2738
02:08:15,200 --> 02:08:17,400
Speaker 1: their face. All right, it doesn't look like it. Are

2739
02:08:17,640 --> 02:08:19,520
Speaker 1: are you gonna You're gonna give him another sound? But

2740
02:08:19,600 --> 02:08:21,120
Speaker 1: do you want to intromuse this sound? But now we

2741
02:08:21,160 --> 02:08:23,200
Speaker 1: have all of it together, Yeah, we got it together.

2742
02:08:23,920 --> 02:08:26,480
Speaker 1: Josh Allen with us during the noon hour today, talked

2743
02:08:26,520 --> 02:08:29,200
Speaker 1: about what he's learned from the others on the roster,

2744
02:08:29,320 --> 02:08:31,880
Speaker 1: A J. McCarron and Nathan Peterman. What he's learned from

2745
02:08:31,880 --> 02:08:33,880
Speaker 1: the other quarterbacks on the roster. Here's what he had

2746
02:08:33,920 --> 02:08:37,640
Speaker 1: to say. They've been here for a while, obviously they've

2747
02:08:38,080 --> 02:08:40,520
Speaker 1: Nate's been here for a full year and AJ just

2748
02:08:40,600 --> 02:08:42,400
Speaker 1: got here. But they've had a little jump start, right

2749
02:08:42,440 --> 02:08:44,880
Speaker 1: with dabele Um. You know, it hasn't been too much

2750
02:08:44,880 --> 02:08:47,720
Speaker 1: of a jump start. THO kind of caught up Um

2751
02:08:47,840 --> 02:08:50,040
Speaker 1: in the system. But obviously they know a little more

2752
02:08:50,080 --> 02:08:52,360
Speaker 1: than I do at this time. And moment. So I'm

2753
02:08:52,400 --> 02:08:54,400
Speaker 1: just trying to catch up, trying to learn from from

2754
02:08:54,440 --> 02:08:56,520
Speaker 1: both those guys in front of me, and just trying

2755
02:08:56,560 --> 02:09:00,800
Speaker 1: to operate this offense at a high level. Careful, I

2756
02:09:00,840 --> 02:09:02,880
Speaker 1: think a little bit, Josh Allen careful about what he said.

2757
02:09:02,920 --> 02:09:04,480
Speaker 1: But if there's truth to that, right, I mean the

2758
02:09:05,120 --> 02:09:10,360
Speaker 1: veterans mccaron and Peterman veterans came in here around mid

2759
02:09:10,480 --> 02:09:13,120
Speaker 1: aprilab I want to say April thirteenth. Josh Allen didn't

2760
02:09:13,200 --> 02:09:15,640
Speaker 1: arrive until first week in May, you know, for the

2761
02:09:15,760 --> 02:09:18,160
Speaker 1: rookie minicamp, so they've got a good three weeks had

2762
02:09:18,200 --> 02:09:20,080
Speaker 1: start out him, and Josh admitted it's a bit of

2763
02:09:20,120 --> 02:09:22,240
Speaker 1: a head start, although he feels like he's he's caught

2764
02:09:22,320 --> 02:09:23,600
Speaker 1: up a little bit. I think in the last week

2765
02:09:23,720 --> 02:09:26,800
Speaker 1: or two. Yeah, three weeks is not much, except that

2766
02:09:26,960 --> 02:09:29,080
Speaker 1: when you have zero weeks, you know, and it's it's

2767
02:09:29,120 --> 02:09:31,640
Speaker 1: one hundred percent of the difference. But he's right, he's

2768
02:09:31,680 --> 02:09:34,280
Speaker 1: gonna catch up fast, and and it's it's what happens

2769
02:09:34,320 --> 02:09:36,480
Speaker 1: after he catches up that really is interesting to us.

2770
02:09:36,520 --> 02:09:38,360
Speaker 1: And what we're gonna probably see when they when they

2771
02:09:38,400 --> 02:09:41,320
Speaker 1: start taking reps is is Josh Allen going to outperform

2772
02:09:41,400 --> 02:09:44,000
Speaker 1: those guys that have a little bit of an NFL experience.

2773
02:09:44,040 --> 02:09:47,760
Speaker 1: Certainly at some point he's got to expect him to.

2774
02:09:48,280 --> 02:09:50,720
Speaker 1: Otherwise he wouldn't have been drafted so highly. But how

2775
02:09:50,760 --> 02:09:52,440
Speaker 1: long will that take? That's the big sixty four to

2776
02:09:52,480 --> 02:09:55,080
Speaker 1: all our question. Everybody's waiting to answer. For the time being,

2777
02:09:55,120 --> 02:09:59,040
Speaker 1: he sits behind those two guys that seems appropriate at

2778
02:09:59,080 --> 02:10:03,680
Speaker 1: this time, and I get everybody seems to be okay

2779
02:10:03,720 --> 02:10:06,200
Speaker 1: with it until it seems seems not to be appropriate,

2780
02:10:06,240 --> 02:10:08,440
Speaker 1: and you kind of expect him to take a step forward.

2781
02:10:08,680 --> 02:10:10,720
Speaker 1: One thing, Josh was great on the air of This

2782
02:10:10,960 --> 02:10:14,120
Speaker 1: twelve thirty for about fifteen twenty minutes, and he was

2783
02:10:14,560 --> 02:10:17,320
Speaker 1: very steady, even keeled. I did see him light up though,

2784
02:10:17,320 --> 02:10:19,120
Speaker 1: stee when I asked him the question about Parcels. Now

2785
02:10:19,160 --> 02:10:21,120
Speaker 1: we had built you were here, right, Bill Parcels, Yeah,

2786
02:10:21,400 --> 02:10:23,640
Speaker 1: on the show with us. Honestly about a month, six

2787
02:10:23,680 --> 02:10:26,600
Speaker 1: weeks ago, after the Bills had drafted Josh Allen, after

2788
02:10:26,680 --> 02:10:29,840
Speaker 1: the story came out that Parcels actually met with Josh

2789
02:10:29,920 --> 02:10:33,120
Speaker 1: Allen and Sam Darnold at his house in Florida, And

2790
02:10:33,200 --> 02:10:35,720
Speaker 1: we asked Josh Allen today what that visit meant to him,

2791
02:10:35,840 --> 02:10:39,320
Speaker 1: and here's what he had to say. That was a

2792
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:42,839
Speaker 1: fantastic experience. You know, we went down to Jupiter, Florida

2793
02:10:43,040 --> 02:10:45,120
Speaker 1: and got to go visit him in his home and

2794
02:10:45,600 --> 02:10:47,720
Speaker 1: got to see all the trophies and the pictures and

2795
02:10:47,720 --> 02:10:50,280
Speaker 1: the memories that he had. It was just something special

2796
02:10:50,360 --> 02:10:52,480
Speaker 1: because of how long he's been around the game and

2797
02:10:52,520 --> 02:10:55,320
Speaker 1: the knowledge that he has. You know, he had some

2798
02:10:55,440 --> 02:10:58,440
Speaker 1: great things for me and Sam. You know, he shared

2799
02:10:58,480 --> 02:11:00,960
Speaker 1: a lot of knowledge with us. And to go down

2800
02:11:01,040 --> 02:11:03,080
Speaker 1: there and talk with one of the greatest coaches of

2801
02:11:03,160 --> 02:11:06,040
Speaker 1: all time and talk football and talk how to be

2802
02:11:06,120 --> 02:11:09,160
Speaker 1: a professional quarterback. You know, me and Sam were like,

2803
02:11:09,360 --> 02:11:11,120
Speaker 1: you know, kids in a candy shop. Sure, he said.

2804
02:11:11,200 --> 02:11:12,880
Speaker 1: One of the things that came out of that, His

2805
02:11:13,160 --> 02:11:14,880
Speaker 1: big message for him is, you know, you got to

2806
02:11:15,040 --> 02:11:17,880
Speaker 1: just get back in the huddle because when you start playing,

2807
02:11:19,160 --> 02:11:21,160
Speaker 1: you're gonna mess up. Yeah, I mean everybody does it

2808
02:11:21,280 --> 02:11:23,840
Speaker 1: and you and it's you don't become an NFL quarterback

2809
02:11:23,920 --> 02:11:25,920
Speaker 1: until you're down. You've beaten beat thirty five to ten

2810
02:11:26,000 --> 02:11:27,400
Speaker 1: and it's your fault and you got to get back

2811
02:11:27,400 --> 02:11:28,760
Speaker 1: in the huddle as a player. What did you do

2812
02:11:28,800 --> 02:11:30,720
Speaker 1: you remember that? I mean Oh, absolutely, Yeah, you've been

2813
02:11:30,800 --> 02:11:33,200
Speaker 1: through that before at a different level. Definitely. I mean,

2814
02:11:33,240 --> 02:11:36,800
Speaker 1: I think throughout life you can kind of apply in

2815
02:11:36,920 --> 02:11:39,120
Speaker 1: those terms, but definitely in my football career, there's been

2816
02:11:39,200 --> 02:11:41,600
Speaker 1: times where you know, I've had bad games, I've had

2817
02:11:41,680 --> 02:11:44,120
Speaker 1: bad plays, and you know, the team doesn't look at

2818
02:11:44,160 --> 02:11:45,680
Speaker 1: you any different, but they expect you to get in

2819
02:11:45,760 --> 02:11:47,440
Speaker 1: that huddle and be the same guy that you were

2820
02:11:47,880 --> 02:11:51,360
Speaker 1: before that happened. Um, And you know, Parcels reitervated that,

2821
02:11:51,520 --> 02:11:53,280
Speaker 1: and you know, he had a lot of examples of

2822
02:11:53,280 --> 02:11:55,240
Speaker 1: a lot of great quarterbacks that have played under him,

2823
02:11:55,280 --> 02:11:57,840
Speaker 1: and the things that they did throughout the week and

2824
02:11:57,920 --> 02:12:00,680
Speaker 1: the repetitions that they got during practice. They were always

2825
02:12:00,800 --> 02:12:03,800
Speaker 1: trying to perfect their craft. So you know, that was

2826
02:12:04,200 --> 02:12:06,040
Speaker 1: one of the coolest experiences that I've had throughout this

2827
02:12:06,080 --> 02:12:08,920
Speaker 1: whole process. Can I just say, And I asked Josh

2828
02:12:08,960 --> 02:12:11,880
Speaker 1: the question about Parcels, and I guess it probably came

2829
02:12:11,920 --> 02:12:13,800
Speaker 1: off as a slam on Parcels that I didn't know

2830
02:12:13,880 --> 02:12:16,600
Speaker 1: he did that, But honestly, I didn't know that Bill Parcels.

2831
02:12:16,600 --> 02:12:17,840
Speaker 1: I don't know him at all, but I didn't know

2832
02:12:17,880 --> 02:12:20,400
Speaker 1: that he cared about young players enough to meet with

2833
02:12:20,520 --> 02:12:23,000
Speaker 1: the No, I didn't. I mean, he's retired, he's into

2834
02:12:23,080 --> 02:12:25,800
Speaker 1: his horse racing, he's into being Bill Parcells. I was

2835
02:12:25,840 --> 02:12:28,200
Speaker 1: impressed up by that. That and that was obviously an

2836
02:12:28,200 --> 02:12:30,840
Speaker 1: agent connection, but I was impressed at Parcels took the

2837
02:12:30,920 --> 02:12:33,160
Speaker 1: time to spend what sounded like a better part of

2838
02:12:33,200 --> 02:12:35,960
Speaker 1: a day with Sam Donald than Josh Allen. Obviously Josh

2839
02:12:36,000 --> 02:12:37,680
Speaker 1: Allen got a lot out of it. Yeah, I think

2840
02:12:38,040 --> 02:12:41,160
Speaker 1: most people, Bill Parcels included. I think he was probably

2841
02:12:41,200 --> 02:12:43,320
Speaker 1: flattered by it a little bit that these guys are

2842
02:12:43,360 --> 02:12:46,560
Speaker 1: coming in. There's a big quarterback class coming out. Bill

2843
02:12:46,640 --> 02:12:48,480
Speaker 1: is still he knows that, you know, as a Hall

2844
02:12:48,480 --> 02:12:50,600
Speaker 1: of Famer and a head coach who's won a couple

2845
02:12:50,640 --> 02:12:53,920
Speaker 1: of Super Bowls and had a coaching tree that included

2846
02:12:54,000 --> 02:12:58,000
Speaker 1: Tom Coughlin and Bill Belichick. But he's kind of widely regarded,

2847
02:12:58,160 --> 02:13:02,360
Speaker 1: And yeah, I think I think he's probably flattered by

2848
02:13:02,360 --> 02:13:04,160
Speaker 1: the fact that he still feel that people still feel

2849
02:13:04,200 --> 02:13:05,800
Speaker 1: he's revel that he has something to offer a young

2850
02:13:05,880 --> 02:13:08,560
Speaker 1: generation that's coming into the league. That was pretty cool. Yeah,

2851
02:13:08,560 --> 02:13:10,480
Speaker 1: it is. And we had one more time. We spoke

2852
02:13:10,560 --> 02:13:12,960
Speaker 1: with Josh about one of the things we've noticed and

2853
02:13:13,040 --> 02:13:14,760
Speaker 1: one of the things I as a player, I remember

2854
02:13:15,200 --> 02:13:16,680
Speaker 1: a lot of the guys I got drafted with the

2855
02:13:16,720 --> 02:13:18,800
Speaker 1: same class. They were like twelve of us in this class.

2856
02:13:19,240 --> 02:13:21,680
Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the rookie class he got drafted with,

2857
02:13:21,760 --> 02:13:25,520
Speaker 1: Tremaine Edmonds, Harrison Phillips, Wyatt Teller, and the rest down

2858
02:13:25,560 --> 02:13:27,080
Speaker 1: the line. We've asked him about what it was like

2859
02:13:27,240 --> 02:13:29,040
Speaker 1: to work with this year's rookie class, and here's what

2860
02:13:29,120 --> 02:13:32,920
Speaker 1: Josh Allen told us today. I couldn't have asked for

2861
02:13:32,960 --> 02:13:36,120
Speaker 1: a better situation. And you know, from top down, everybody

2862
02:13:36,160 --> 02:13:37,800
Speaker 1: in this rookie class I've been able to spend a

2863
02:13:37,840 --> 02:13:40,760
Speaker 1: lot of time with, you know, whether it's studying late

2864
02:13:40,760 --> 02:13:42,360
Speaker 1: at night or just kind of hanging out in our

2865
02:13:42,520 --> 02:13:44,280
Speaker 1: each other's room, was playing mad and going out to

2866
02:13:44,320 --> 02:13:47,720
Speaker 1: eat with each other. You know, we've definitely formed a

2867
02:13:47,760 --> 02:13:49,760
Speaker 1: lot of bonds here that are going to continue throughout,

2868
02:13:50,160 --> 02:13:52,160
Speaker 1: you know, our lifetimes. And it's been really cool to

2869
02:13:52,320 --> 02:13:55,720
Speaker 1: kind of come into the same situation with fifteen to

2870
02:13:55,800 --> 02:13:58,480
Speaker 1: eighteen other dudes that are doing the same thing. They're

2871
02:13:58,480 --> 02:14:00,880
Speaker 1: trying to make a team and here I play football

2872
02:14:01,000 --> 02:14:03,000
Speaker 1: and at the same time their dudes as well. So

2873
02:14:03,200 --> 02:14:05,520
Speaker 1: getting to know each other's stories and backgrounds. It's been

2874
02:14:05,560 --> 02:14:08,480
Speaker 1: really fun. Josh Allen talked to us earlier today. We

2875
02:14:08,600 --> 02:14:10,720
Speaker 1: enjoyed that conversation and if you miss it'll be up

2876
02:14:10,720 --> 02:14:13,480
Speaker 1: on our website, Buffalo bills dot com shortly time now

2877
02:14:13,600 --> 02:14:16,920
Speaker 1: for NFL True or False sponsored by Yancey's Fancy New

2878
02:14:16,960 --> 02:14:20,440
Speaker 1: York's Artists and Cheese Tour or False Freshest today's headlines.

2879
02:14:20,760 --> 02:14:23,560
Speaker 1: The Seahawks should trade Earl Thomas. He says you're gonna

2880
02:14:23,560 --> 02:14:26,879
Speaker 1: skip their mandatory mini camp. He's mad about his contract,

2881
02:14:27,440 --> 02:14:29,360
Speaker 1: has one year left, but wants a new deal. He's

2882
02:14:29,400 --> 02:14:31,400
Speaker 1: been talking about that since the Pro Bowl. I didn't

2883
02:14:31,440 --> 02:14:33,560
Speaker 1: know that. I know there was a fine. It's pretty substantial.

2884
02:14:33,880 --> 02:14:37,600
Speaker 1: The maximum fine for missing minicamp Steve fourteen thousand dollars

2885
02:14:37,680 --> 02:14:41,240
Speaker 1: for day one, doubles, twenty eight thousand for day two,

2886
02:14:41,800 --> 02:14:43,840
Speaker 1: and forty two thousand for the third day, a total

2887
02:14:43,920 --> 02:14:46,240
Speaker 1: of eighty four thousand, four hundred and thirty five dollars

2888
02:14:46,880 --> 02:14:48,960
Speaker 1: for the three day mini camp if miss it. But

2889
02:14:49,480 --> 02:14:51,120
Speaker 1: that's just a lot of money, isn't it. Eighty four

2890
02:14:51,120 --> 02:14:53,160
Speaker 1: thousand for not go to work. I'd go to the

2891
02:14:53,200 --> 02:14:55,080
Speaker 1: mini camp for the money. Yeah, yeah, I mean you

2892
02:14:55,120 --> 02:14:57,400
Speaker 1: don't want to lose to save the money. You have money,

2893
02:14:57,920 --> 02:15:01,480
Speaker 1: So should the Seahawks trade Earl Thomas? True? False? I

2894
02:15:01,640 --> 02:15:03,960
Speaker 1: say what are you gonna get? False? What are you

2895
02:15:03,960 --> 02:15:05,680
Speaker 1: gonna get he's a good player. What are you gonna

2896
02:15:05,720 --> 02:15:07,400
Speaker 1: get for him? At this point? If he's a good player,

2897
02:15:07,440 --> 02:15:09,600
Speaker 1: will get something for him and it'll help him rebuild faster.

2898
02:15:10,040 --> 02:15:13,920
Speaker 1: I say, yeah, trade him. It's particularly a guy who's disgruntled.

2899
02:15:14,280 --> 02:15:16,720
Speaker 1: You think you're gonna get after making him hold out,

2900
02:15:16,760 --> 02:15:18,440
Speaker 1: get to the point where he's so frustrated with your

2901
02:15:18,520 --> 02:15:20,920
Speaker 1: organization that he's gonna stay away and then come in

2902
02:15:20,960 --> 02:15:22,960
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be like, oh yeah, all's forgive and forget.

2903
02:15:24,000 --> 02:15:26,080
Speaker 1: Let him go someplace and play, Let him prove his

2904
02:15:26,200 --> 02:15:27,840
Speaker 1: worth to somebody else. Get what you can get in

2905
02:15:27,880 --> 02:15:29,680
Speaker 1: will help in the draft. Pick or askt that you

2906
02:15:29,760 --> 02:15:32,640
Speaker 1: get in return for him will help you rebuild faster

2907
02:15:33,160 --> 02:15:35,280
Speaker 1: than you otherwise would have been able to. NFL tru

2908
02:15:35,360 --> 02:15:39,040
Speaker 1: or false Part two. Sean McVeigh NFL Coach of the

2909
02:15:39,080 --> 02:15:42,240
Speaker 1: Year last year, Big turnaround out in Los Angeles for

2910
02:15:42,320 --> 02:15:45,320
Speaker 1: the Rams. They took the title away from Seattle last year.

2911
02:15:45,760 --> 02:15:47,160
Speaker 1: What is he got in mind? What's he got for

2912
02:15:47,240 --> 02:15:50,760
Speaker 1: an encore. John McVeigh will push the Rams even further

2913
02:15:51,240 --> 02:15:55,560
Speaker 1: in twenty eighteen. True false, I say false. Gonna be

2914
02:15:55,640 --> 02:15:57,280
Speaker 1: hard to do much more than they did last year.

2915
02:15:57,320 --> 02:15:59,360
Speaker 1: I don't know if they'll go any further than they

2916
02:15:59,400 --> 02:16:01,320
Speaker 1: did last year. I think they're pretty good, but I

2917
02:16:01,360 --> 02:16:04,080
Speaker 1: don't think Sean McVay has the key really or he's

2918
02:16:04,120 --> 02:16:06,240
Speaker 1: the secret to what they'll get them over the top. Though.

2919
02:16:06,480 --> 02:16:09,280
Speaker 1: They're probably a playoff team, might even win a playoff game,

2920
02:16:09,400 --> 02:16:11,000
Speaker 1: but are they much more than that? I don't think so.

2921
02:16:11,360 --> 02:16:14,680
Speaker 1: Your thoughts he I say true. They've made some players

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02:16:15,160 --> 02:16:18,320
Speaker 1: acquisitions in the off season that really have I think

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02:16:18,640 --> 02:16:21,040
Speaker 1: helped him a lot. And Dominicans who's going to be

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02:16:21,120 --> 02:16:25,120
Speaker 1: great support. He's gonna help their pass rusher. Now his

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02:16:25,240 --> 02:16:29,160
Speaker 1: name escapes me, the Aaron Donald. They've got some corners

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02:16:29,200 --> 02:16:32,840
Speaker 1: out there, some veteran cornerbacks. They've upgraded their defense. Wade

2927
02:16:32,879 --> 02:16:34,680
Speaker 1: Phillips is going to get the most out of those guys.

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02:16:34,800 --> 02:16:36,440
Speaker 1: I say yeah, And I don't think it's going to

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02:16:36,480 --> 02:16:40,039
Speaker 1: be about Jared Goff and their offense with Todd Gurley

2930
02:16:40,040 --> 02:16:41,959
Speaker 1: and those guys. I think it's gonna be their defense

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02:16:42,040 --> 02:16:43,560
Speaker 1: that takes a big step forward and helps them go

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02:16:43,600 --> 02:16:45,280
Speaker 1: to the next level. So I think they will take

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02:16:45,320 --> 02:16:48,440
Speaker 1: another step this year finally. NFL True or false. Arizona

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02:16:48,480 --> 02:16:51,960
Speaker 1: Cardinals running back David Johnson do for an extension this

2935
02:16:52,120 --> 02:16:54,760
Speaker 1: year with the Cardinals. He skipped some of the voluntary

2936
02:16:54,800 --> 02:16:57,920
Speaker 1: workouts last year he was healthy. Cardinals coach Steve Wilkes

2937
02:16:58,000 --> 02:16:59,680
Speaker 1: did not say why he missed some of the voluntary

2938
02:16:59,720 --> 02:17:03,760
Speaker 1: work ex the on field work. NFL Network says he

2939
02:17:03,959 --> 02:17:06,280
Speaker 1: is looking for a contract going into the final year

2940
02:17:06,320 --> 02:17:08,840
Speaker 1: of his deal a base salary of one point eight

2941
02:17:08,920 --> 02:17:11,640
Speaker 1: eight million dollars this year. David Johnson due for an

2942
02:17:11,680 --> 02:17:13,879
Speaker 1: extension with the Cardinals. True falls you go for Steve,

2943
02:17:14,080 --> 02:17:16,119
Speaker 1: I say it's true. I mean he probably is due. Well,

2944
02:17:16,480 --> 02:17:22,960
Speaker 1: that's for a franchise running back. Yeah, he's due for

2945
02:17:23,120 --> 02:17:26,120
Speaker 1: a raise. That's that's not enough money for a guy

2946
02:17:26,160 --> 02:17:28,240
Speaker 1: who's carrying the rock for your football team. You need

2947
02:17:28,280 --> 02:17:31,000
Speaker 1: to compensate him fairly, even if it's not a huge raise.

2948
02:17:31,080 --> 02:17:33,000
Speaker 1: You should give him some security for the next year

2949
02:17:33,040 --> 02:17:35,520
Speaker 1: and beyond. Yeah. I say, yes, Dree, it's true, and

2950
02:17:35,600 --> 02:17:37,040
Speaker 1: he should get a new deal. He is due for

2951
02:17:37,080 --> 02:17:40,360
Speaker 1: an extension. One of the top offensive weapons in the league.

2952
02:17:40,360 --> 02:17:43,199
Speaker 1: I would think, Um, we know running backs are undervalued

2953
02:17:43,240 --> 02:17:46,360
Speaker 1: in the NFL. They've got cap space, about fourteen million

2954
02:17:46,400 --> 02:17:49,760
Speaker 1: dollars in cap space. Yeah, make a deal with David Johnson. Look,

2955
02:17:49,840 --> 02:17:53,760
Speaker 1: running backs don't have a long, long careers, and this

2956
02:17:53,920 --> 02:17:56,640
Speaker 1: guy is looking at us saying, hey, I've answered the bell,

2957
02:17:56,680 --> 02:17:59,040
Speaker 1: I've done what I need to do. Pay me now

2958
02:17:59,080 --> 02:18:00,840
Speaker 1: because I might not be around two or three years

2959
02:18:00,879 --> 02:18:03,440
Speaker 1: from now. Absolutely true. He is due for an extension.

2960
02:18:03,680 --> 02:18:06,480
Speaker 1: David Johnson with the Cardinals NFL. True false brought to

2961
02:18:06,520 --> 02:18:09,200
Speaker 1: you by Yancey's Fancy New York's artist and Cheese. That

2962
02:18:09,240 --> 02:18:11,120
Speaker 1: was easy today, wasn't it? Tru or false? I think

2963
02:18:11,160 --> 02:18:16,000
Speaker 1: we agreed for most of it. Was good. I feel

2964
02:18:16,040 --> 02:18:18,720
Speaker 1: I feel good about that. I do too right. We

2965
02:18:18,760 --> 02:18:22,520
Speaker 1: can we can disagree without being disagreeable. Yeah, that's the

2966
02:18:22,600 --> 02:18:24,840
Speaker 1: key for NFL. True or false. We're back in a moment.

2967
02:18:25,040 --> 02:18:28,080
Speaker 1: John Murphy, Steve Tasker One Bills Live from One Bill's Drive.

2968
02:18:28,520 --> 02:18:46,480
Speaker 1: This is Buffalo Bills Radio. This is what we call

2969
02:18:46,560 --> 02:18:48,800
Speaker 1: what do we learned from today's show. It is presented

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02:18:48,800 --> 02:18:51,880
Speaker 1: by Advanced Alarm, providing Western New York's homes and businesses

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02:18:52,360 --> 02:18:55,680
Speaker 1: with the finance and security, and home theater. He preferred

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02:18:55,720 --> 02:18:58,000
Speaker 1: Alarm and home theater provider with the Buffalo Bills. We

2973
02:18:58,120 --> 02:19:00,320
Speaker 1: always like to recap what have we learned. I always

2974
02:19:00,360 --> 02:19:02,000
Speaker 1: like to look back and discover what we've learned. We

2975
02:19:02,120 --> 02:19:03,880
Speaker 1: had Josh Allen on the show in the first hour,

2976
02:19:04,879 --> 02:19:07,880
Speaker 1: Buffalo's first round pick. You know him from Wyoming. I

2977
02:19:07,959 --> 02:19:10,240
Speaker 1: asked Josh Allen, if all the work he's done, you know,

2978
02:19:10,480 --> 02:19:13,040
Speaker 1: full season with Wyoming, then getting ready for all the

2979
02:19:13,080 --> 02:19:16,280
Speaker 1: offseason workouts, getting ready for the Combines and the draft,

2980
02:19:16,400 --> 02:19:20,040
Speaker 1: and working out out West with Jordan Pom, I asked him,

2981
02:19:20,080 --> 02:19:21,520
Speaker 1: are you looking forward to a little bit of a

2982
02:19:21,560 --> 02:19:25,960
Speaker 1: break before training camp. Here's what he had to say, No,

2983
02:19:26,160 --> 02:19:29,520
Speaker 1: are you sure a little bit? This is what I've

2984
02:19:29,959 --> 02:19:32,200
Speaker 1: wanted to do my entire life, and now that I'm here,

2985
02:19:32,879 --> 02:19:34,800
Speaker 1: it just kind of reiterated the fact that this is

2986
02:19:34,840 --> 02:19:37,879
Speaker 1: what I'd love to do. Um, it's football twenty four seven.

2987
02:19:38,640 --> 02:19:41,280
Speaker 1: The facilities are open for us. I get to throw

2988
02:19:41,320 --> 02:19:42,440
Speaker 1: the ball every day. I get to come in and

2989
02:19:42,480 --> 02:19:44,680
Speaker 1: be a professional football player, And in my mind, that's

2990
02:19:44,720 --> 02:19:47,800
Speaker 1: the greatest thing that that's ever happened to me. Josh

2991
02:19:47,959 --> 02:19:53,560
Speaker 1: Allen days off that is all. I remember when I

2992
02:19:53,720 --> 02:19:56,039
Speaker 1: was twenty two as well, and I had the whole

2993
02:19:56,080 --> 02:19:58,360
Speaker 1: that kind of energy. Man, I don't know if there's

2994
02:19:58,360 --> 02:20:03,960
Speaker 1: anything I want to do that bad. Let's go. Oh,

2995
02:20:04,040 --> 02:20:05,920
Speaker 1: I can come in any time I want and throw it.

2996
02:20:06,959 --> 02:20:09,560
Speaker 1: That's what you want to hear right there. Courtney has

2997
02:20:09,560 --> 02:20:11,680
Speaker 1: spent it on the show. We're talking about trades obviously

2998
02:20:11,800 --> 02:20:14,120
Speaker 1: all day Courtney has been it. Probably a part of

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02:20:14,200 --> 02:20:16,280
Speaker 1: one of the biggest trades. It's not the biggest trade

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02:20:16,320 --> 02:20:18,960
Speaker 1: in franchise history. We get talking to Biscuit. He talks

3001
02:20:19,000 --> 02:20:22,600
Speaker 1: about how important his teammate Darrell Tallely was to his development.

3002
02:20:22,640 --> 02:20:24,600
Speaker 1: When he arrived with the Bills in nineteen eighty seven,

3003
02:20:26,640 --> 02:20:28,800
Speaker 1: Darrel was smarter than in the coach I ever played

3004
02:20:28,879 --> 02:20:33,160
Speaker 1: for it. I Darrel knows football, and it's the shame

3005
02:20:33,280 --> 02:20:35,800
Speaker 1: that he never never got a chance to coach. And

3006
02:20:35,920 --> 02:20:38,680
Speaker 1: I think coaches were afraid to hire there because he

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02:20:38,840 --> 02:20:41,520
Speaker 1: was so you in opinionated and knew what the hell

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02:20:41,600 --> 02:20:44,680
Speaker 1: he was talking about. Darrel is the smartest football brains

3009
02:20:44,840 --> 02:20:47,520
Speaker 1: I've ever been around. And I was so grateful to

3010
02:20:47,680 --> 02:20:50,039
Speaker 1: have him as a brother Dan and as a brother

3011
02:20:50,120 --> 02:20:52,960
Speaker 1: now and Lance, he said, you know, we are thicker

3012
02:20:53,040 --> 02:20:56,000
Speaker 1: than blood. You're on the other side of the ball there,

3013
02:20:56,320 --> 02:21:00,320
Speaker 1: And uh, that's it doesn't sound like that was at andered.

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02:21:00,959 --> 02:21:02,960
Speaker 1: Coaches don't know what they're doing. It sounds like he

3015
02:21:03,040 --> 02:21:05,120
Speaker 1: really meant that about Darryl Talley. Did you detect that

3016
02:21:05,200 --> 02:21:07,800
Speaker 1: that he was smarter than most coaches? Well, I think

3017
02:21:07,840 --> 02:21:12,320
Speaker 1: he actually knew. Um, yeah, he was. He was sharp,

3018
02:21:12,440 --> 02:21:15,640
Speaker 1: he knew And of course Darryl's communication skills were pretty

3019
02:21:15,680 --> 02:21:18,200
Speaker 1: cut cut to the chase. You know, he wasn't one

3020
02:21:18,200 --> 02:21:20,440
Speaker 1: of the mince words. And and it's hard to and

3021
02:21:20,600 --> 02:21:22,600
Speaker 1: he you know, he did tinker with the idea and

3022
02:21:22,720 --> 02:21:24,720
Speaker 1: flirt with the idea of getting into coaching. It's hard.

3023
02:21:24,840 --> 02:21:27,360
Speaker 1: It's a hard job to break into, a hard field

3024
02:21:27,400 --> 02:21:31,520
Speaker 1: to get into. And uh, he was. He's always been

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02:21:31,640 --> 02:21:34,160
Speaker 1: very opinionated. He says what he thinks all the time.

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02:21:34,240 --> 02:21:37,840
Speaker 1: And it's interesting too because I you know, it takes

3027
02:21:37,879 --> 02:21:39,800
Speaker 1: a lot to earn another player's respect the way to

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02:21:39,920 --> 02:21:41,720
Speaker 1: the level Darryl Talley or in the respect of him,

3029
02:21:41,720 --> 02:21:44,240
Speaker 1: most of the guys on that team. And he did

3030
02:21:44,320 --> 02:21:46,640
Speaker 1: it with his personality and his knowledge of the game,

3031
02:21:46,720 --> 02:21:49,680
Speaker 1: and and of course his tenaciousness and his and his

3032
02:21:50,160 --> 02:21:53,240
Speaker 1: commitment and you know, go down the list. But it

3033
02:21:53,360 --> 02:21:55,320
Speaker 1: was nice to hear Cornelius give him a lot of credit,

3034
02:21:55,360 --> 02:21:57,959
Speaker 1: because Cornelius is a guy who's who's got some accolades

3035
02:21:57,959 --> 02:22:00,800
Speaker 1: in his career, got some honors and maccolades that the

3036
02:22:00,920 --> 02:22:03,960
Speaker 1: Darrell never received. And to give Darrel the kind of

3037
02:22:03,959 --> 02:22:05,320
Speaker 1: credit he did, I think it's a tribute to the

3038
02:22:05,440 --> 02:22:07,560
Speaker 1: kind of guy and teammate Darrel was. Yeah, I never

3039
02:22:07,640 --> 02:22:09,680
Speaker 1: heard that. I had heard so many times about what

3040
02:22:09,800 --> 02:22:12,920
Speaker 1: a great leader Daryl Talley was, what a great inspiration

3041
02:22:13,000 --> 02:22:15,120
Speaker 1: he was to his teammates, But I gotta say it's

3042
02:22:15,120 --> 02:22:16,880
Speaker 1: the first time I've ever heard any of his former

3043
02:22:16,920 --> 02:22:19,560
Speaker 1: teammates talk about how smart he was about the game

3044
02:22:19,600 --> 02:22:21,080
Speaker 1: and how much he knew about what they were trying

3045
02:22:21,120 --> 02:22:23,240
Speaker 1: to do defensive. It wasn't just that as well, Yes

3046
02:22:23,320 --> 02:22:25,400
Speaker 1: he did, he knew everything that they was going on

3047
02:22:25,520 --> 02:22:27,640
Speaker 1: with that defense, but he was also the guy with

3048
02:22:27,720 --> 02:22:31,200
Speaker 1: the strong enough personality and the and the the you know,

3049
02:22:33,520 --> 02:22:38,200
Speaker 1: the commitment and the desire to tell superstars like Cornelius,

3050
02:22:38,320 --> 02:22:42,080
Speaker 1: like Bruce Smith, fred Smerliss, Daryl Talley. I mean, you

3051
02:22:42,200 --> 02:22:44,000
Speaker 1: go down the line of guys all on that front

3052
02:22:44,040 --> 02:22:46,920
Speaker 1: seven he would tell them what was going on and

3053
02:22:47,360 --> 02:22:49,480
Speaker 1: wouldn't put up with them not playing well, wouldn't put

3054
02:22:49,520 --> 02:22:51,520
Speaker 1: up with him doing their own thing. Espersonally, you know, Bruce,

3055
02:22:51,600 --> 02:22:53,240
Speaker 1: when he was young, he would kind of the freelance

3056
02:22:53,320 --> 02:22:55,000
Speaker 1: his nay, he wants to rush the passer all the time.

3057
02:22:56,000 --> 02:22:58,040
Speaker 1: Darrel would fist fight him. And Bruce, did you know,

3058
02:22:58,360 --> 02:23:01,879
Speaker 1: unless you wanted to fight Darryl every day, you're gonna

3059
02:23:01,920 --> 02:23:04,280
Speaker 1: do what you're supposed to do, or you're gonna hear

3060
02:23:04,320 --> 02:23:06,360
Speaker 1: it from Darryl. And Daryl was willing to fight about it.

3061
02:23:06,440 --> 02:23:08,440
Speaker 1: And nobody wanted to get into a fistfight every day.

3062
02:23:08,560 --> 02:23:11,720
Speaker 1: Darryl would. Darryl would, So he was He was just

3063
02:23:11,800 --> 02:23:14,640
Speaker 1: a great guy because of his knowledge and his inability

3064
02:23:14,720 --> 02:23:16,760
Speaker 1: to put up with guys doing their own thing. That

3065
02:23:16,879 --> 02:23:19,039
Speaker 1: brought that team together and brought him to the higher level.

3066
02:23:19,080 --> 02:23:21,480
Speaker 1: We're talking to Cornelius today because you gotta believe he's

3067
02:23:21,480 --> 02:23:23,680
Speaker 1: going to be part, if not the main, part of

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02:23:23,760 --> 02:23:26,560
Speaker 1: our Buffalo Bill's Top Ten series Tonight, the debut for

3069
02:23:26,640 --> 02:23:29,840
Speaker 1: this year tonight, eight o'clock on MSG Buffalo Bill's Top

3070
02:23:29,920 --> 02:23:33,560
Speaker 1: Ten series, the Top ten Trades in Bill's History that's

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Speaker 1: on the air tonight eight o'clock on MSG. I want

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Speaker 1: to thank our production assistant George Blast, Jeff Coltnick Thomas,

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02:23:39,360 --> 02:23:43,160
Speaker 1: Honold Or, Kelly Rude, JJ Turito, Keith, Kevin Kargis, and

3074
02:23:43,440 --> 02:23:47,240
Speaker 1: James Robot. Our producer Jay Harris. We're back tomorrow. Mandatory

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Speaker 1: Minicamp starts tomorrow. We'll have live updates from Miniicam tomorrow.

3076
02:23:50,680 --> 02:23:55,039
Speaker 1: There me We're in pads no, but it's tomorrow at noon.

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Speaker 1: One Bill's Live, presented by Kalidah Hell from One Bill's Drive.

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Speaker 1: And this is Buffalo Bills Radio h