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Speaker 1: This One Bill's Live presented by Callida Health.

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Speaker 2: Well a happy Black Friday, everybody. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker

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Speaker 2: here with you. One Bill's Live is the program of choice.

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Speaker 2: Thanks for joining us as we motor into the holiday weekend.

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Speaker 2: And for those of you enjoying another day off today,

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Speaker 2: thanks for joining us. And uh, the Bills are on

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Speaker 2: the practice field right now. There is good news and

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Speaker 2: bad news can discerning Buffalo's secondary and we'll get to

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Speaker 2: that in just a second. First, we want to remind

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Speaker 2: you that this week's game against the Eagles is presented

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Speaker 2: by Leecom. You're a Lake Erie College of Osteopathic Medicine.

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Speaker 2: We make doctors. So it is a Friday, you know

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Speaker 2: what that means. The OBL Friday fan mail bag is

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Speaker 2: open for your most pressing questions on the Bills, the NFL.

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Speaker 2: Maybe what you witnessed in the triple header of NFL

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Speaker 2: games yesterday which was a full NFC slate, And I,

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Speaker 2: for one am going to vote, can we not have

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Speaker 2: only NFC teams on Thanksgiving? I realize that the Lions

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Speaker 2: and the Cowboys kind of have the market cornered on Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: You're always going to see them, but somewhere. Can we

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Speaker 2: mix in an AFC team here or there? Six NFC teams.

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Speaker 2: I didn't even watch the night game. I couldn't do it.

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Speaker 2: It's too much.

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Speaker 3: Interest.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, your MIC's not on, Steve hang on is Steve

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Speaker 2: basically said he is disinterested for the first time in

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Speaker 2: a long time on Thanksgiving. So I couldn't watch the

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Speaker 2: night game. It was a good divisional matchup Niners and Seahawks.

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Speaker 2: But you know, as far as I was concerned, once

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Speaker 2: the Niners kind of showed and demonstrated some measure of

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Speaker 2: dominance over the Seahawks, I was like, well, I know

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Speaker 2: where this game's going because I mean, what's his name,

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Speaker 2: Geno Smith? He just flat out did not have it

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Speaker 2: as far as I was concerned. You guys are very

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Speaker 2: distracting as you're trying to fix Steve's microphone. Are we

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Speaker 2: plugged in now? Are we ready?

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Speaker 1: I don't know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, why were you disinterested? Tell me?

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Speaker 1: Well, you know how I feel about the NFC North.

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Speaker 1: So the game started the day started out with the Packers,

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Speaker 1: Lions and the Lions, and it's let me just say this,

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Speaker 1: the whole world piled on my point of view. After

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Speaker 1: the fact, when the Lions became ordinary, the Lions that

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Speaker 1: we all know and hate and love. So the Packers

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Speaker 1: come out and lump up the Lions. And then who

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Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys. Yeah, they're they're like six and one against.

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Speaker 2: Team playing the fourteen Holy Helpers for.

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Speaker 1: They're playing you know, sisters, sisters of the poor. You know,

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Speaker 1: little you know, they're playing a country day school. They're

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Speaker 1: playing all these teams that can't win a game, and

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Speaker 1: they're just lumping them up, Washington being the most recent.

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Speaker 1: And now Jack del Rio, their defensive coordinator, got today

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Speaker 1: after the giving up forty five to Dak Prescott. Happy Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: And then the last who played I don't even know

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Speaker 1: who played last night? Who was it?

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Speaker 2: Oh Settle, San Fransco.

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Speaker 1: They may as well be playing in Japan. I don't

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Speaker 1: even that's so far.

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Speaker 2: Well you're halfway there, if you're inside.

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Speaker 1: I was, I was like, I was disinterested, which is

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Speaker 1: unusual for me, as you know, I mean, we're football,

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Speaker 2: I was like, eh, yeah, I was done.

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Speaker 2: I had eaten too much food. I was in a

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Speaker 2: trip to fancoma. I was just like, yeah, I can't

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Speaker 2: do it, can't do the third game. My father in

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Speaker 2: law likes watching football. He looks, he looks at me.

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Speaker 2: He's on one couch. I'm on the other. He goes

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Speaker 2: there's another game.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I was like, oh, yeah, it's a triple header. Now

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Speaker 2: on Thanksgiving. He goes, ah, and he couldn't do it either.

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Speaker 1: Now today I will be watching.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it does have an impact on Buffalo's outlook as

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Speaker 2: far as the division is concerned.

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Speaker 1: And of course, as well know we are cheering for.

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Speaker 2: We are Jets fans today, fans, we are cheering for

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Speaker 2: the Jets and lo and behold, Tim Boyle is starting

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Speaker 2: at home and MetLife Stadium. And I'm just going to

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Speaker 2: say this, having grown up in the New York metropolitan area,

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Speaker 2: I can unequivocally tell you Patriots hatred aside, you know,

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Speaker 2: with the Belichick I'm coaching the Jets. No, no, I'm not.

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Speaker 2: I'm going to New England and that whole saga for

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Speaker 2: the better part of the last twenty years. Right, Despite

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Speaker 2: all of that, the number one hated team for Jets

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Speaker 2: fans are the Miami Dolphins, so they will be in

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Speaker 2: then hopefully the Jets can give them something to stay

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Speaker 2: in the game with. And if that happens, you know,

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Speaker 2: you know, maybe the Jets defense goes to school on

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Speaker 2: what the Bills did back in Week four. Who knows.

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Speaker 1: I think it's only fitting that if we're all going

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Speaker 1: to be Jet fans today, we should feel like them.

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Speaker 1: And I do feel a sense of hopelessness brow about

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Speaker 1: this game.

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Speaker 2: So I'm he've coming out like yo Sam Heires' plays.

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Speaker 1: I am full, I am full Jet mode today, feeling

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Speaker 1: a sense of total total hollow.

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Speaker 2: I mean you you make light of it, and you're

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Speaker 2: you're being facetious. I get it. But at the same time,

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Speaker 2: the Bills need some help here. The Dolphins are two

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Speaker 2: games up on them in the lost column. Granted there

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Speaker 2: is a head to head that still exists at the

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Speaker 2: end of the season. Yeah, but you need you need

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Speaker 2: the Dolphins to trip up here somewhere, That's right, I mean.

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Speaker 1: They they you gotta match him in the loss column

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Speaker 1: and beat him at the end of the season. Of

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Speaker 1: the Week eighteen, that's that game is going to be

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Speaker 1: a primetime game. I would think of probably the twelfth

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Speaker 1: it's TBD. We don't know when it's going to be played,

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Speaker 1: so they'll call that game coming down the wire. I'm

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Speaker 1: telling you it's gonna be. That's gonna be a from

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Speaker 1: this end of it looks like it's gonna be an

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Speaker 1: absolutely gigantic game. Yeah, because you got to think that.

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Speaker 2: Well, let's hope we get there with that game meaning something,

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Speaker 2: because that will mean the Bills climb back into climb

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Speaker 2: back into it, and the Dolphins have faltered a little bit.

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Speaker 2: And I'll just say the Dolphins offense has not looked

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Speaker 2: the same the last couple of weeks. I mean, they

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Speaker 2: gave the Raiders every opportunity to tie them at the

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Speaker 2: end of the game at twenty, and the Raiders just

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Speaker 2: kept puking on their shoes. The Raiders couldn't do.

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Speaker 1: The Raiders treated it like the third helping a Turkey's

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Speaker 1: like no, please, no, you take it right. So they

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Speaker 2: So now we're so and that this is the problem.

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Speaker 2: When you get yourself in a position where you're six

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Speaker 2: like the Raiders and the Jets to do do you

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Speaker 2: a solid and more often than not they disappoint.

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Speaker 1: You, right, which is wid.

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Speaker 2: So you just got to keep winning and hope that

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Speaker 2: other team has a has a dog day, right and

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Speaker 2: just you know, he serves up a win for somebody else.

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Speaker 1: Win your games, man, win your games. The Bills are

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Speaker 1: in a spot now where they're going to go into

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Speaker 1: the NFC champions House and beat them. To stay above

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Speaker 1: five hundred. This late in the season, you got to

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Speaker 1: you got to get within shouting match, a shouting range

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs. You got the Eagles, the Chiefs, the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys coming up. The Cowboys don't really scare me, and

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Speaker 1: you have them here, and you've got them here on

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Speaker 1: the road against the Super Bowl teams.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, that's a that's a little bit of a task.

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Speaker 1: Bro, you know. And you got the yeah because the

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Speaker 1: Cowboys are down there feasting on a bad division. You know, well,

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Speaker 1: the Eagles and the Cowboys, the Eagles and the Cowboys

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Speaker 1: are pretty good teams. But you know, the Washington Commanders

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Speaker 1: and the Giants are The Giants are in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the rebuild and they're still down to the studs

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Speaker 1: of their house. So you know the Bills are playing

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Speaker 1: another first play schedule, just getting crushed by that at

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Speaker 1: this point of the season, and they've dropped some games

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Speaker 1: that we all have all seen that they shouldn't have dropped.

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Speaker 2: And that's probably the biggest difference I would say between

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Speaker 2: the Bills and the Eagles this season. In particular, the

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Speaker 2: Eagles haven't played their best for portions of the year either.

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Speaker 2: They didn't play their best on Monday Night, but they

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Speaker 2: find ways to grind out wins. If there are If

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Speaker 2: there is a major difference between Jalen Hurts and Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: I think we can all agree Josh Allen is more

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Speaker 2: physically gifted than Jalen Hurts, But the more important thing

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Speaker 2: here is how they play the quarterback position. At any

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Speaker 2: point in time, Josh Allen can make an unbelievable play

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Speaker 2: and help you win a football game. Jalen Hurts knows

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Speaker 2: how to get games in the garage. Yeah, he doesn't

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Speaker 2: do anything spectacular, but he unscrew it up for you either.

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Speaker 1: That's right he is. And he's got a good roster

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Speaker 1: He's got some guys, and so does their team. Their

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Speaker 1: whole team. So they were They were in the super

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Speaker 1: and they close out games and they they don't flinch.

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Speaker 1: Well coached. All that stuff coming down the stretch is important.

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Speaker 1: But I'll say this, Joe Brady and what happened last

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Speaker 1: week against the Jets give should give you a reason like, Okay,

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Speaker 1: not playing well. The Chiefs would have should have could

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Speaker 1: have won the game last week without six drops drops

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Speaker 2: So, second, they lead the league in drops right now

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Speaker 1: But you're right, Brownie Hurts and Josh Leaed's the league

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Speaker 1: in touchdowns. Hurts is number two. So you're gonna see

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Speaker 2: I think we will. I think it'll be up in

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Speaker 2: the high twenties, low thirties. I don't know why, but

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Speaker 2: I just have that feeling that we're gonna see a

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Speaker 1: You know, I think it'll be a one possession game

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Speaker 1: at the end. It's just like it always is. So yeah,

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Speaker 1: we'll see that. I got a lot of optimism of

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Speaker 1: they're gonna play well. I think protecting Josh is paramount

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Speaker 1: in this game. I think the Bills offensive line is

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Speaker 2: They've been playing good football. I thought last week was

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Speaker 2: one of the best weeks of the season.

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Speaker 1: I wonder about their ability to run the football as

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Speaker 1: well as they've been running it.

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Speaker 2: It's the number one run defense in football.

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Speaker 1: That's a problem and we'll see.

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Speaker 2: But that's where I'm kind of thinking throwing to the

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Speaker 2: backs again could double as your running game. Now, last

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Speaker 2: week it was different, the backs ran routes to be

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Speaker 2: the wrinkle that Joe Brady threw in along with a

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Speaker 2: And you know, if you cannot run the ball, I

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Speaker 2: think throwing out of the backfield is something you can

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Speaker 1: Haynes on the other side. Nobody could even throw over there.

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Speaker 1: So he kept getting fed these passes and they were

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Speaker 1: playing that man de man defense and they were calling

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Speaker 1: it you always have one of these games that kind

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Speaker 1: of drops out of the statistical heaven where he's not done.

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Speaker 1: They got like six games, I know, like he's doing

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Speaker 1: it every other game.

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Speaker 2: It's it's nuts. And this was the guy that used

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Speaker 2: to be their nickel corner. And then Trayvon Diggs goes

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Speaker 2: out with a season ending injury. They moved him outside

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Speaker 2: and he takes off.

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Speaker 1: It's there's a lot in that.

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Speaker 2: I don't think anybody's touching that record.

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Speaker 1: That's got you got an offense is playing pretty well,

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Speaker 1: a soft schedule. Bad quarterbacks, oh yeah, and your and

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Speaker 1: your your offense is playing actually pretty well, and you

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Speaker 1: know you keep getting thrown at. That's it's unbelievable because

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Speaker 1: he's every time you turn around, he's doing it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I good for him.

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Speaker 2: I don't know how anybody's touching that. It is just

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Speaker 2: to me. I'd love to have, you know, a math

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Speaker 2: expert like run the numbers on how astronomically rare that is,

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Speaker 2: because it seemed it would seem to me that you're

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Speaker 2: in the you're in the millions in terms of the

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Speaker 2: odds of somebody pulling that off again in a single

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Speaker 2: season five times.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like as that's pretty cool.

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Speaker 2: It seems extraordinarily rare to me. And I don't think

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Speaker 2: anybody's gonna top that for a long, long, long long time.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, never say never, but perhaps there's It's

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Speaker 1: interesting too because we're sitting here on a holiday weekend

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Speaker 1: and this game is going to kick off at three o'clock,

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Speaker 1: so we're like, yeah, auron Creekway. So they're on the

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Speaker 1: field over in New York at Met Life. Guy, the

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Speaker 1: early outs are starting to come out on the field.

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Speaker 1: Alan Lazard, you know, the guy that they signed because

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Speaker 1: he was buddies with Aaron Rodgers. He's getting benched after

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Speaker 1: signing a forty four million dollar contract.

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Speaker 2: He's been dealing with a knee injury, apparently a nagging

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Speaker 2: knee problem that he's been playing through.

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Speaker 1: And he also dropped his seventh pass of the season

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Speaker 1: this last week against the Bills. Yeah, that's a huge

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Speaker 1: miss for them. Twenty catches.

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Speaker 2: Last note from around the NFL. Patriots head coach Bill

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Speaker 2: Belichick declined to announce who his starting quarterback will be

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Speaker 2: this Sunday in the barn Burner matchup of the week

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Speaker 2: against the Giants. Good lord, good lord, that's a game

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Speaker 2: that's gonna be aired on television.

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Speaker 1: Steve, that game's gonna be four to two.

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Speaker 2: Three safeties.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, wow, four to two?

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Speaker 2: Calling it Okay, we'll put it on the whiteboard. We'll

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Speaker 2: see how you make out.

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Speaker 1: On Monday games gonna be four to two.

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Speaker 2: Uh. It is OVL Friday fan mail bag. So if

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Speaker 2: you have a question fired off at us, we're happy

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Speaker 2: to answer it at Ato three oh five to fifty one,

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Speaker 2: eighty eight five fifty two, five point fifty. Gonna go

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Speaker 2: to the phones and lead off with Kevin and Hamburg.

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Speaker 2: What do you got firs.

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Speaker 4: Kevin, Hey, guys, how you doing banks for taking my car?

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Speaker 2: Yeah to you too.

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Speaker 4: I think the biggest thing in this game, beside our

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Speaker 4: bang dug secondary, is that offensive line against our defensive line.

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Speaker 4: Because last week and even when we lost the judge

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Speaker 4: the first week we they were Their offensive line throughout

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Speaker 4: the season has been a bunch of men pretty much

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Speaker 4: Olaye right to the quarterback whoever it is, even last

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Speaker 4: week against us, But now we're playing the offensive line,

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Speaker 4: there's not a bunch of manators, but chasing Kelsen, especially

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Speaker 4: Lane Johnson the other guy, especially those main two brutes,

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Speaker 4: they're gonna tend they're the ones I think they're gonna

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Speaker 4: give us probably one of the biggest tests of the season.

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Speaker 4: Probably Samara even gave the past or in the future,

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Speaker 4: because you don't win the Philly Tush push with a

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Speaker 4: stinky offensive line. So I think, besides her, that's gonna

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Speaker 4: be whoever wins that fight is probably gonna win the game.

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Speaker 4: So I'll get off and let you guys know.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, thanks, Kevin, I I was it was funny. I

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Speaker 2: came out of that Kansas City game. I'm watching that

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Speaker 2: Eagles O line. They struggled at times against that Chiefs front,

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Speaker 2: and granted Steve Spagnola was throwing the kitchen sink at

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Speaker 2: them in terms of pressure, looks, blitzes and things that nature.

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Speaker 1: But yeah, they got some. They got home.

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Speaker 2: They got pressure on Hurtz. He was only sacked once,

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Speaker 2: I believe, but got pressured a good bunch. And uh,

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Speaker 2: I don't know, I feel like that old line is

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00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 2: starting to look a little old. I mean, Kelsey's thirty six,

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Speaker 2: Lane Johnson's thirty four. They're starting to show their age

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Speaker 2: a little bit. And as you get longer and longer

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Speaker 2: into a season, that takes more and more of a

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Speaker 2: cumulative toll. I'm not saying they can't play. They're a

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Speaker 2: good offensive line. I just don't know if they're quite

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Speaker 2: as dominant as they've been the previous couple of years.

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Speaker 1: So well, the Chiefs. The Chiefs got Chris Jones had

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Speaker 1: two sacks last week. McDuffie had two sacks last week.

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Speaker 2: That's right, I've got it flipped around.

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Speaker 1: Carl Loftis had a sacked last week, so they sacked

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Speaker 1: him five times.

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Speaker 2: Right, Mahomes only got sacked once.

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Speaker 1: I have Mat Holmes had only had one sack, so

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Speaker 1: those guys. Yeah, Chris Jones was crushing those guys up front. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: it'll be an interesting battle, very interesting the Bills. We

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Speaker 1: all know the Bills are tough, man. They are a

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Speaker 1: good team. They've got depth that's been tested, no question.

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Speaker 1: But they're starting to find their level and I think

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Speaker 1: the spark that Joe Brady gave them on offense, a

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Speaker 1: new look, new, you know, refurbished attitude is exactly what

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Speaker 1: you need going on the road. That's gonna be a

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Speaker 1: tough road game, but I think this is gonna be

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Speaker 1: a really really I think it's gonna be a heavyweight bout,

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Speaker 1: and I like our fronts against both their fronts. I'm

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Speaker 1: not saying we're better on both fronts. I'm saying we

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Speaker 1: can hang in there with these fronts. I don't think

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Speaker 1: we're overmatched on either side of the ball. Up front.

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Speaker 1: I think the Bills offensive line has been highly overlooked

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Speaker 1: and underrated. I think this year they've got the same

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Speaker 1: five guys starting every week. They've stayed healthy, they're getting better.

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Speaker 1: Osiris Torrance has played very well as a rookie coming

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Speaker 1: in there, and they've all had their moments, no question.

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Speaker 1: Spencer Brown's having his best season as a pro. They're

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Speaker 1: gonna be tested this week because the Eagles have athletes

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Speaker 1: and big dudes who are athletic upfront on their defensive line.

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Speaker 1: So it's gonna be a test. But that's why he

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Speaker 1: brought in McGovern and that's why he got in Osiris,

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Speaker 1: two big guards who can kind of hang in there

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Speaker 1: and and bolster your front hold the line. It's gonna

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Speaker 1: be really good game because these teams came into the

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Speaker 1: season with a lot of expectations and they've proven they're

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Speaker 1: worth it. But the Bills it's been you know, they

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Speaker 1: haven't won all of those close games like the Eagles have,

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Speaker 1: and that speaks to the seasoning that the Eagles have

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Speaker 1: had in the playoffs and that kind of thing. So

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Speaker 1: we'll see. But I'm you're right, Kevin from Hamburg, I

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Speaker 1: up front. I think the Bills are gonna get tested

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Speaker 1: like they haven't been, but so were the Eagles in

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Speaker 1: my opinion.

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Speaker 2: Break time for us here. When we come back, we've

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Speaker 2: got more or your phone calls, so if you're holding

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Speaker 2: an eighth three oh five fifty, stay where you are,

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Speaker 2: and we'll also have the latest edition of Excuse me, mister, Tasker.

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Speaker 2: We'll see what story Steve's got for us next. Here

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Speaker 2: And this week's question comes from Trevor, who says, Hello, Steve,

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Speaker 2: Do you have any scars from all the punts you

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Speaker 2: blocked and big collisions that you had while you were playing?

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Speaker 1: Absolutely? Yeah, I not from blocking punts, although I did

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00:33:20,520 --> 00:33:22,600
Speaker 1: have a nice little bruise after one or two of them.

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Speaker 1: But you know the thing that happened to me a

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Speaker 1: lot was when I played. You're because the game is

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Speaker 1: played with your hands. These you know it used to

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Speaker 1: be back in the days. Guys that have pads all

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Speaker 1: the way up their arms. You know, all the old

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Speaker 1: Raider offensive linemen, defensive players Jack Lambert that have forearm

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Speaker 1: has nobody wears those today because the game is played

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Speaker 1: with your hands. Now, my hand's got broken ten times,

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Speaker 1: maybe more like busted fingers and broken fingers, broken knuckles

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Speaker 1: back in my hand. This thumb was broken twice. Still

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00:33:52,840 --> 00:33:55,360
Speaker 1: isn't quite right. The tips of your fingers, you know,

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Speaker 1: the top knuckle gets you know that snapped right, and

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Speaker 1: my finger got caught in you know, my finger gets

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Speaker 1: caught in Dion's jerseys snapped you know, you tape it

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Speaker 1: and you go. So my hands have been broken double

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Speaker 1: digit times. My forum got broken making a tackle when

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Speaker 1: one of our my own players hit me.

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Speaker 2: I remember you had a foot problem late in your career.

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Speaker 1: Got a Liz Frank's sprain from getting my my foot.

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Speaker 1: I was up on my toes and a guy falls

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Speaker 1: on your heel and your foot buckles in the middle,

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Speaker 1: and that's that's a Liz frank'sprain. My knees I've I've

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Speaker 1: had four minor operation scopes on my right knee and

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Speaker 1: one on my left. The most painful injury I ever had,

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Speaker 1: and I still have a scarf from it, was when

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Speaker 1: Quinn Early we were playing in New England. I was

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Speaker 1: playing wide receivers ninety five or ninety seven. I went

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Speaker 1: was Quinn got caught a ball, got spun around, swung

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Speaker 1: around like a you know, just swung like a like

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Speaker 1: throwing a bag of feet up into the back of

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Speaker 1: the truck. He got swung in his cleats break to

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Speaker 1: cross my shin all the way to the bone. And

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Speaker 1: that's the only time I couldn't cope with the pain.

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Speaker 1: I thought, I just kill me. Now take me, now,

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Speaker 1: take me, now, Lord, take me now.

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Speaker 2: I was even with your socks on.

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Speaker 1: It went right through your sock and so I was

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Speaker 1: on the sidelines. Just so happens the Monday night, it

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Speaker 1: was Monday night football, and the camera went down and

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Speaker 1: showed me on the sideline and whatever I was doing.

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Speaker 1: That's the only time my wife said, I was really

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Speaker 1: worried about you, because that's the only time when she

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Speaker 1: had Because I come off the field and we're at

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Speaker 1: a home game and the family's in the stands and

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Speaker 1: I just point to my finger and I just give

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Speaker 1: her the it's broke right here. I just let her

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Speaker 1: know because you want to know why were you Why

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Speaker 1: did you stay down? Why is do this? Because you

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Speaker 1: just don't you ever not give us a look up?

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Speaker 1: And after you get hurt, don't you ever not give

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Speaker 1: us the I'm okay sign or whatever. So there was

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Speaker 1: a lot of that going on. And I tell you

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Speaker 1: this all the time. The most underrated aspect of what

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Speaker 1: it takes to be a professional football player is the

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Speaker 1: the toll that it takes on your body and how

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Speaker 1: difficult it is to prepare yourself mentally to get hurt

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Speaker 1: when you kind of feel like you're gonna get hurt.

649
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Speaker 1: Every game is a risk, and that, more than anything,

650
00:36:32,239 --> 00:36:36,879
Speaker 1: is what wears on a player's ability to prepare. There were,

651
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,359
Speaker 1: you know, off seasons when I couldn't train as hard

652
00:36:40,400 --> 00:36:42,719
Speaker 1: as I wanted to because you got you know, I've

653
00:36:42,760 --> 00:36:46,240
Speaker 1: had my shoulder worked on your knees were you can't

654
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:49,440
Speaker 1: train hard because you can't your body won't allow you to.

655
00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,040
Speaker 1: You know, you can't bench, or you can't lift, you

656
00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:54,040
Speaker 1: can't do channel, you can't do squad whatever. You can't

657
00:36:54,080 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: lift hard or run hard, or do this stuff at

658
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:01,080
Speaker 1: a high intensity level because you've got all this these hurts.

659
00:37:01,880 --> 00:37:06,360
Speaker 1: And when you can't prepare prepare hard, you can't play hard,

660
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,400
Speaker 1: and you can't p play well. And knowing that is

661
00:37:10,440 --> 00:37:13,120
Speaker 1: the most difficult thing about being a pro football player,

662
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:15,160
Speaker 1: is the physical toll it takes on you and your

663
00:37:15,200 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 1: ability to prepare well. And I think that as much

664
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Speaker 1: as anything contributes to guys, you say, honest and I've

665
00:37:21,600 --> 00:37:24,799
Speaker 1: had it, man, I'm I'm done. I'm retired. That's what

666
00:37:25,000 --> 00:37:28,000
Speaker 1: caused me to retire. But yeah, I have scars everywhere,

667
00:37:29,120 --> 00:37:31,640
Speaker 1: both from surgeries and from injuries.

668
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,160
Speaker 2: It's a collision sport, that is, it's not a context.

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Speaker 1: And I think the league has started to embrace the

670
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Speaker 1: fact that they need to protect players from that because

671
00:37:41,280 --> 00:37:43,440
Speaker 1: I'm you know, I'm one of those guys. I was

672
00:37:43,480 --> 00:37:47,759
Speaker 1: getting shot up to practice. Was during Super Bowl. It

673
00:37:47,800 --> 00:37:49,680
Speaker 1: wasn't just for like a preseason game, It's for the

674
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Speaker 1: Super Bowl. I was getting shot up so I could

675
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Speaker 1: practice and help guys other guys prepare. So you really

676
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:59,160
Speaker 1: have that mentality that you'll do anything to play. So

677
00:37:59,200 --> 00:38:02,760
Speaker 1: the and clubs nowadays particularly here in this building. They're saying,

678
00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,160
Speaker 1: like Tata Rapp is probably sitting there going I feel

679
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,520
Speaker 1: like I could go, and they're going, yeah, you know

680
00:38:07,560 --> 00:38:07,840
Speaker 1: you're not.

681
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Speaker 2: We're going wait, wait a week that.

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Speaker 1: I think it's really something the league has done a

683
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:15,640
Speaker 1: much much better job with is protecting players from themselves.

684
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Speaker 1: I know I needed it.

685
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Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, well that has excuse me, mister Tasker.

686
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Speaker 2: Congrats to Trevor, who will be getting that mystery box

687
00:38:23,600 --> 00:38:27,359
Speaker 2: from TS. We got to get to the phones here

688
00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,600
Speaker 2: on an obl Fan Friday and we'll go to Judy

689
00:38:30,719 --> 00:38:32,280
Speaker 2: in Buffalo Nex. What do you got, Judy?

690
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Speaker 3: Well, you know, I think our only hope is I

691
00:38:38,200 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 3: think the Eagles defensive secondary is suspect now. Even if

692
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:48,800
Speaker 3: they can control Biggs and Shakure and Kincaid, I'm looking

693
00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:52,799
Speaker 3: for a big game from Gabe Davis. So I think

694
00:38:52,840 --> 00:38:56,399
Speaker 3: they have to look at him and maybe he could

695
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Speaker 3: make the difference in this game.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so you're counting on Gabe to kind of be

697
00:39:01,640 --> 00:39:04,759
Speaker 2: the forgotten man by the Eagles defense. And look, the

698
00:39:04,800 --> 00:39:07,400
Speaker 2: Eagles defense has had problems this year. They've given up

699
00:39:07,440 --> 00:39:11,120
Speaker 2: twenty one passing touchdowns in ten games. It's the third

700
00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:14,239
Speaker 2: most in football, so they have been victimized on a

701
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:18,440
Speaker 2: pretty regular basis. Now that being said, it looks like

702
00:39:18,480 --> 00:39:22,279
Speaker 2: they're starting to tie some things together and get the

703
00:39:22,400 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 2: new mix kind of all on the same page. Because

704
00:39:26,120 --> 00:39:30,080
Speaker 2: Bradley Roby had to fill in for Avante Maddox at

705
00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:32,760
Speaker 2: nickel corner and then he was hurting out of the lineup.

706
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Speaker 2: He's just come back. He had a red zone takeaway

707
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Speaker 2: last week. And Kevin Byered, who they acquired from the

708
00:39:39,160 --> 00:39:42,000
Speaker 2: Tennessee Titans and a trade at the deadline, is now

709
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:45,319
Speaker 2: playing safety. He had a red zone takeaway last week

710
00:39:45,320 --> 00:39:49,080
Speaker 2: against the Chiefs. Those two takeaways were instrumental in Philly

711
00:39:49,120 --> 00:39:51,880
Speaker 2: pulling off that road victory at Kansas City last week.

712
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:55,719
Speaker 2: And so the general consensus, at least in Philadelphia is, Oh,

713
00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:58,200
Speaker 2: the secondary is starting to round into form. They're not

714
00:39:58,239 --> 00:39:59,840
Speaker 2: going to make as many mistakes, they're not going to

715
00:39:59,880 --> 00:40:03,200
Speaker 2: have as many blown coverages, and they're going to play better.

716
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Speaker 2: I don't know if they have it all tied up

717
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Speaker 2: in a bow yet, So Buffalo should try to take

718
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Speaker 2: advantage there, especially knowing, as we mentioned earlier, the Eagles

719
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Speaker 2: have the number one run defense in football.

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Speaker 1: It's probably a good guess too, Judy that if you're

721
00:40:17,640 --> 00:40:20,040
Speaker 1: looking at the Bills receiving corpse, Gabe Davis like he

722
00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:22,160
Speaker 1: didn't have a single target or catch last week, so

723
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Speaker 1: it's like, okay, let's double team or guard or make

724
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Speaker 1: sure we have it tied up. On the list of priorities,

725
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Speaker 1: it probably goes Digs, Kincaid, Shakir Cook or Cook Shakir,

726
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Speaker 1: whichever you want to go. It's like Gabe Davis was

727
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Speaker 1: whoever's left over gets Gabe. Kind of that's the priority

728
00:40:41,719 --> 00:40:45,239
Speaker 1: list because they're not thrown in the football. So that's

729
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Speaker 1: probably a good guess. So if Gabe can make hay

730
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Speaker 1: As being the fourth priority or fifth priority on Phillies

731
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Speaker 1: defensive priority list, he may have a big game. Certainly

732
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Speaker 1: he's not umber one on their list. You'd have to

733
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Speaker 1: put Digs there and then Kincaid or vice versa. Even so, yeah,

734
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Speaker 1: Gabe having a big day would be what the Eagles

735
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Speaker 1: would say. Okay, if you're gonna beat us with Gabe Davis,

736
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Speaker 1: a guy who didn't have a catch or a target

737
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Speaker 1: a week ago, bless your heart. Go ahead, we'll see

738
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Speaker 1: if you can do it.

739
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Speaker 2: We have to take a break here. But Jeff in

740
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,239
Speaker 2: New York, Doug in Rochester, Jay on a cell. Hang tight,

741
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Speaker 2: We'll get to you when we return, as we're taking

742
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Speaker 2: more of your phone calls. Here on an obl Friday

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748
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749
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Speaker 2: New York. Next, What do you got for us? Jeff?

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Speaker 4: Hey, everybody, I love the show.

751
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Speaker 5: I hope you had a relaxing Thanksgiving. Thanks for taking

752
00:42:08,920 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 5: my call. Yeah, yeah, sure, yeah, you know I've seen

753
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:16,239
Speaker 5: him for years. Play and Leonard Fournette. How and when

754
00:42:16,239 --> 00:42:17,759
Speaker 5: do you think we could start building him into our

755
00:42:17,760 --> 00:42:21,600
Speaker 5: offense because he's definitely a power else either when he's on,

756
00:42:21,880 --> 00:42:23,080
Speaker 5: So curious your thoughts on that.

757
00:42:23,360 --> 00:42:26,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's hard to say right now. And with the

758
00:42:26,680 --> 00:42:29,160
Speaker 2: performance that Ty Johnson had last week, I think he's

759
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:33,279
Speaker 2: going to stay right where he is. Ty Johnson was

760
00:42:33,440 --> 00:42:36,839
Speaker 2: impressive last week against the Jets. I think he runs

761
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Speaker 2: with power. He has burst, and if he can show

762
00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,359
Speaker 2: that he can hold up in pass protection and pick

763
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,640
Speaker 2: up a blitz too, he might be able to carve

764
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Speaker 2: a rollout for himself in this offense. I don't going forward.

765
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Speaker 1: If they can keep winning games without him, I want

766
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Speaker 1: to keep doing that. And then I want him to

767
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Speaker 1: get late in the season when they need a little

768
00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 1: fresh and then plug him in like New England Miami,

769
00:43:01,680 --> 00:43:03,799
Speaker 1: and then the playoffs and change up a little bit,

770
00:43:03,800 --> 00:43:05,600
Speaker 1: give him a little boost of energy when they need

771
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:08,440
Speaker 1: it when they want a crescendo through the playoffs, and

772
00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: just use him like his nickname, playoff Lenny.

773
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Speaker 2: All right, now, he's an insurance policy.

774
00:43:13,040 --> 00:43:15,719
Speaker 1: Right, yes, right now, he's an insurance policy. I think

775
00:43:16,760 --> 00:43:19,880
Speaker 1: that's in best case scenario. You win enough games to

776
00:43:19,880 --> 00:43:21,440
Speaker 1: get any of the wind of the vision or get

777
00:43:21,480 --> 00:43:23,239
Speaker 1: in as a wild card, whatever it is, and then

778
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: when everything when you need guys to when you need

779
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:29,160
Speaker 1: somebody to be a hammer and lead, some fresh legs

780
00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:31,680
Speaker 1: and a little boost to your offense, then you plug

781
00:43:31,719 --> 00:43:33,960
Speaker 1: him in. Then you plug him in.

782
00:43:34,280 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 2: Yeah, we'll have to wait and see, but.

783
00:43:36,120 --> 00:43:38,799
Speaker 1: That's best case scenario. Obviously, worst case is he's you know,

784
00:43:39,080 --> 00:43:41,360
Speaker 1: you gotta play him because somebody goes down or whatever.

785
00:43:41,440 --> 00:43:44,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, which is why he's on the practice squad. He's

786
00:43:44,080 --> 00:43:46,480
Speaker 2: an insurance policy right now in a pretty damn good one.

787
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Speaker 2: Let's go to Jay on a sale next. What do

788
00:43:49,239 --> 00:43:49,919
Speaker 2: you got first? Jay?

789
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Speaker 6: Hi, guys, how was your holiday really good?

790
00:43:55,080 --> 00:43:55,360
Speaker 1: Thanks?

791
00:43:55,440 --> 00:43:56,920
Speaker 2: Hope you hope yours was good too?

792
00:43:58,200 --> 00:44:01,799
Speaker 6: It was very good. Hey. I think the Bills will

793
00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:06,360
Speaker 6: win in a tight one against Philadelphia. But my issue

794
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:09,520
Speaker 6: is when I heard you before say that Belichick wasn't

795
00:44:09,600 --> 00:44:14,399
Speaker 6: naming his starting quarterback. Yeah, I'm curious as to why

796
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:18,240
Speaker 6: the league wants people to name starting quarterbacks. I always

797
00:44:18,239 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 6: thought it was because of the betting lines.

798
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Speaker 2: I don't know if that's the main reason why, And

799
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Speaker 2: I don't think you necessarily it's not mandated.

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Speaker 1: It's not mandated mandate anything. You can tell them whatever,

801
00:44:33,400 --> 00:44:37,160
Speaker 1: you can lie to them if you want, It doesn't matter.

802
00:44:38,120 --> 00:44:41,960
Speaker 1: It's just more customary more than anything. And particularly when

803
00:44:42,000 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 1: you've got I think you got the same twenty guys

804
00:44:47,480 --> 00:44:51,560
Speaker 1: who cover the team every day they're there, and you

805
00:44:51,560 --> 00:44:54,240
Speaker 1: you know, they got to ask who's playing, who's playing

806
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,880
Speaker 1: in this game, and it's the most important position. And

807
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 1: I form most teams, it's a given. I mean, nobody's

808
00:45:01,840 --> 00:45:07,080
Speaker 1: asking Sean McDermott who's starting quarterback for the Bills. But

809
00:45:07,120 --> 00:45:10,400
Speaker 1: when you get a team that struggles, first thing on, hey,

810
00:45:10,440 --> 00:45:13,000
Speaker 1: you're making a what's going on here? Who's gonna play?

811
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:16,799
Speaker 1: It's an obvious question. And for a team with its

812
00:45:16,800 --> 00:45:20,040
Speaker 1: back against the wall, who's desperate, they don't. They want

813
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:23,799
Speaker 1: every small, teeny tiny advantage they can get, and by

814
00:45:23,840 --> 00:45:25,839
Speaker 1: not telling them who the quarterback is, maybe the other

815
00:45:25,880 --> 00:45:31,160
Speaker 1: team wastes a little time fooling around with different game plans.

816
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Speaker 1: They think the Patriots might run given on who's playing quarterback.

817
00:45:35,200 --> 00:45:38,600
Speaker 2: And yeah, they've been bringing in Bailey Zappi I think

818
00:45:38,640 --> 00:45:41,600
Speaker 2: three of the last four weeks due to poor play

819
00:45:41,640 --> 00:45:45,160
Speaker 2: at the position. And so with that juggling of the

820
00:45:45,280 --> 00:45:48,200
Speaker 2: roster at that position during games, it's prompted the question

821
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Speaker 2: even more. In New England, I think people are ready

822
00:45:51,120 --> 00:45:54,200
Speaker 2: to write the epitaph on mac Jones' career in New

823
00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:58,400
Speaker 2: England faster than anything else. So it's a pertinent question.

824
00:45:58,840 --> 00:46:02,360
Speaker 2: It's a topical question, and Belichick chooses not to answer,

825
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:04,520
Speaker 2: and he's got every right not to because there is

826
00:46:04,560 --> 00:46:07,160
Speaker 2: no real mandate to do that. Let's go to Max

827
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Speaker 2: in Buffalo next we got Max.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I was just wondering if you guys kind of

829
00:46:14,560 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 7: felt like, you know, every time, like Chris, you were

830
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Speaker 7: just saying that the Eagles have led up twenty one

831
00:46:20,400 --> 00:46:24,040
Speaker 7: touchdowns over the last ten games. You know, it just

832
00:46:24,040 --> 00:46:27,040
Speaker 7: seems like with those statistics every time the Bills face

833
00:46:27,120 --> 00:46:31,080
Speaker 7: the team that they really just somehow are turning it around,

834
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Speaker 7: or that just doesn't seem to be the case at

835
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Speaker 7: that point. I don't know if you kind of see

836
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Speaker 7: it similar.

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Speaker 2: I think you can find a couple of examples like that, Max,

838
00:46:40,480 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 2: And thanks for the call. I would say Denver was

839
00:46:43,239 --> 00:46:46,440
Speaker 2: starting to hit their stride when Buffalo played them, and

840
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:48,239
Speaker 2: so that was a much tougher game that maybe it

841
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:51,680
Speaker 2: appeared on the schedule when it first came out. Jacksonville

842
00:46:51,760 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 2: had started to hit their stride entering Week five after

843
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:57,479
Speaker 2: being a little up and down in the first couple

844
00:46:57,520 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: of weeks of the season. The Jets certly, we're not

845
00:47:00,719 --> 00:47:04,040
Speaker 2: last week they were fumbling around, having a tough time

846
00:47:04,080 --> 00:47:06,719
Speaker 2: just scoring a touchdown, so I wouldn't put them in

847
00:47:06,760 --> 00:47:10,560
Speaker 2: that category. You could argue that maybe the Eagles secondary

848
00:47:10,640 --> 00:47:13,440
Speaker 2: is rounding into form, as we mentioned last segment, So

849
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Speaker 2: maybe if you feel like that team is hitting its

850
00:47:15,719 --> 00:47:19,279
Speaker 2: stride from that individual part of their team, I might

851
00:47:19,320 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 2: be inclined to agree with you. So, you know, who

852
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,359
Speaker 2: knows where the Chiefs are going to be in two weeks,

853
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,800
Speaker 2: But they certainly aren't playing their best football right now.

854
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,600
Speaker 2: But as we know, it's a week to week league,

855
00:47:29,600 --> 00:47:31,799
Speaker 2: a lot can change in a couple of weeks by

856
00:47:31,800 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 2: the time they play it. The Eagles also had the

857
00:47:34,560 --> 00:47:37,600
Speaker 2: benefit of a bye week going into that Chiefs game,

858
00:47:38,080 --> 00:47:41,760
Speaker 2: and they tried some different stuff on defense and on offense.

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00:47:41,840 --> 00:47:44,480
Speaker 2: And we'll actually hear from Greg Cosell on that very

860
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:47,200
Speaker 2: subject when he joins US an hour number two. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: I mean, you can always find a couple examples catching

862
00:47:49,640 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 2: the team catching an opponent at the wrong time. They're

863
00:47:52,120 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: riding high and you're not. You know, the Bills went

864
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 2: six weeks without an interception and then Rasul Douglas gets two,

865
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,560
Speaker 2: you know, so you just never know.

866
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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's every team will have rhetoric coming out of

867
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Speaker 1: their city about how they're fixing what's wrong or you know,

868
00:48:13,080 --> 00:48:15,200
Speaker 1: but let's face it, if you're going to face Philly,

869
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:18,200
Speaker 1: it's better to face them now with Dallas Goddard on

870
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:22,759
Speaker 1: the sideline. I mean that's a plus for the Bills. Defensively.

871
00:48:24,200 --> 00:48:26,640
Speaker 1: They're always going to be spinning it positive, you know,

872
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Speaker 1: the Bills, or the Bills do it, the Jets do it.

873
00:48:31,760 --> 00:48:34,560
Speaker 1: Every team is working on fixing everything that's wrong with

874
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Speaker 1: them all the time. So when you go after the game,

875
00:48:38,200 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 1: when things go well or if they don't, you can

876
00:48:40,960 --> 00:48:42,360
Speaker 1: go back to that rhetic and say, yeah, well they

877
00:48:42,400 --> 00:48:44,520
Speaker 1: were right. You know, they were getting it together. They

878
00:48:44,560 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 1: did fix it. They did you know, the offensive coordinator

879
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:50,040
Speaker 1: was a problem. This wide receiver being hurt was a problem.

880
00:48:50,040 --> 00:48:52,640
Speaker 1: They got him healthier. This you know, they just played better.

881
00:48:52,719 --> 00:48:56,919
Speaker 1: So that's just the nature of the rhetoric that comes

882
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Speaker 1: out of every NFL team, Not so much anything tangible

883
00:49:01,760 --> 00:49:03,680
Speaker 1: that would happen because the Bills are playing a team

884
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Speaker 1: that's getting it together time after time after time. It's

885
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 1: just the rhetoric that comes out of every squad, every

886
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Speaker 1: squad coming into every week. Bills are no different this week.

887
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Speaker 1: You know, they feel like, hey, we're on the crescendo. Now,

888
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:17,799
Speaker 1: we're you know, we got this coordinator at yep, yep.

889
00:49:17,840 --> 00:49:19,960
Speaker 1: The running backs they're up up all the stuff that's

890
00:49:20,000 --> 00:49:23,600
Speaker 1: coming out the Philly's probably saying, Wow, Now, how about

891
00:49:23,800 --> 00:49:25,759
Speaker 1: us facing the Bills? Now they're getting it together. They

892
00:49:25,760 --> 00:49:28,240
Speaker 1: were struggling. Now they're coming out scoring thirty two points

893
00:49:28,520 --> 00:49:30,520
Speaker 1: on a defense like the Jets. What are we gonna do?

894
00:49:30,840 --> 00:49:32,279
Speaker 1: It's that kind of thing for them as well.

895
00:49:32,560 --> 00:49:35,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, break time for us here, but when we come back,

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Speaker 2: we're gonna talk Bills Eagles with our weekly visitor on Fridays,

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Speaker 2: it's Great co Sel, senior producer from NFL Films, co

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Speaker 2: host of ESPN's NFL Matchup Show, joining us next here

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Speaker 2: on One Bill's Live presented by Colida Health, It's Buffalo

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Speaker 2: Bills Radio.

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00:50:27,960 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: This One Bills Live presented by Kalia Health.

902
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Speaker 2: All Right, hour number two on a Friday means only

903
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Speaker 2: one thing. Senior producer from NFL Films, Greg Cosell, joining

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Speaker 2: us in Greg's appearance on the show is presented by

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Speaker 2: Scott Lonyard, an official commercial site work partner of the

906
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Speaker 2: Buffalo Bills. And this one's a big ee for the

907
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Speaker 2: Bills this week, as we know, not a lot of

908
00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,680
Speaker 2: wiggle room for them at six and five on the season. Meanwhile,

909
00:50:53,760 --> 00:50:56,640
Speaker 2: the Eagles riding high at nine and one best record

910
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Speaker 2: in the league, and the Bills have to play him

911
00:50:59,480 --> 00:51:04,240
Speaker 2: on the road, where Buffalo has only one victory this season.

912
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Speaker 2: Pretty crazy how lopsided it's been between road and home. Greg,

913
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Speaker 2: hope you had a good Turkey day. You might even

914
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Speaker 2: still be burning off some of those calories you consumed yesterday.

915
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Speaker 2: How much? How much pie did we down yesterday?

916
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Speaker 1: Greg?

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Speaker 2: Because I I held up my end of the bargain.

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00:51:18,840 --> 00:51:19,839
Speaker 2: Are you not a pie guy?

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00:51:21,200 --> 00:51:23,360
Speaker 8: I do like pie? But you know I was good yesterday.

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Speaker 8: I did not overeat. I know most people you know

921
00:51:26,200 --> 00:51:29,719
Speaker 8: do that on Thanksgiving. I didn't really overeat. I felt

922
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Speaker 8: pretty good about it.

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Speaker 2: All Right. You're a better You're a better man than me.

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Speaker 9: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I'm a big I'm a big overeater guy and big yeah.

926
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Speaker 1: And also you know the obligatory nap on the couch

927
00:51:41,760 --> 00:51:43,719
Speaker 1: and you know I'm doing. I do the whole thing.

928
00:51:43,800 --> 00:51:47,600
Speaker 1: I am stereotypical old man. I just like eat and sleep.

929
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Speaker 1: That's good.

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Speaker 8: Well, there you go, there you go.

931
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Speaker 1: Yeah, and then sneak, then sneak ice cream the rest

932
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Speaker 1: of the night.

933
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Speaker 8: Wow, yeah you are, now there you go.

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Speaker 1: I am like that. I am an absolutely unapologetic old man.

935
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Speaker 2: Okay, let's go okay. Steve is a foodie about it.

936
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Speaker 2: Let's begin here, Greg. We see the Bills with a

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Speaker 2: get right performance first game with Joe Brady and probably

938
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Speaker 2: the two biggest wrinkles that we pulled out of the

939
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Speaker 2: game more pre snab motion than we have seen from

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Speaker 2: the Bills all season. It was motioned with a purpose.

941
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Speaker 2: And then second, they used the backs in the passing

942
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Speaker 2: game and not just as a checkout checkdown option. There

943
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Speaker 2: were designed routes for the backs in this game, something

944
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Speaker 2: we also haven't seen a whole lot of previously. What

945
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Speaker 2: were your thoughts?

946
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Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean those two things stood out. If you

947
00:52:44,600 --> 00:52:46,480
Speaker 8: had asked me the question what did I see? I

948
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Speaker 8: would have said those two things.

949
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Speaker 2: You know.

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Speaker 8: I think the motion is important and we'll see if

951
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Speaker 8: they continue to do it. We have spoken numerous times

952
00:52:56,239 --> 00:53:01,040
Speaker 8: about Cook and his ability as a receiver. See Ty Johnson.

953
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Speaker 8: I remember doing Ty Johnson when he came out of Maryland.

954
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Speaker 8: I think it has to be four or five years

955
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Speaker 8: ago because he's been around the league, and I thought

956
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Speaker 8: he was a pretty dynamic player. Obviously not a feature back,

957
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Speaker 8: but a guy that could give an offense you know,

958
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Speaker 8: some complimentary work as both a runner and as a receiver. Obviously,

959
00:53:21,520 --> 00:53:23,239
Speaker 8: when you hit an eighty one yard touchdown and like

960
00:53:23,239 --> 00:53:26,759
Speaker 8: we're looking at now, that changes things as well. But

961
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Speaker 8: you know, the other thing that I felt like I noticed,

962
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Speaker 8: and again it's it's just one game, and I'm not

963
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Speaker 8: saying it never happened. Obviously it did happen under Ken Dorsey,

964
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Speaker 8: but I think I felt like I saw route concepts

965
00:53:41,080 --> 00:53:44,759
Speaker 8: and combinations. And again it's a division opponent, so they

966
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Speaker 8: know them well. Route combinations that really presented primary read

967
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Speaker 8: availability for Josh Allen, and I think that's one thing

968
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Speaker 8: you're really trying to work toward more of. You know,

969
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Speaker 8: we get wrapped up in the fact that he is

970
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Speaker 8: as special as they come when it comes to those

971
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Speaker 8: out of structure, second reaction movement plays, and he may

972
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Speaker 8: need some of those this week, who knows, But you know,

973
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Speaker 8: I think you really have to work toward your passing

974
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Speaker 8: game being structured where he can drop back, hit that

975
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Speaker 8: back foot and deliver the football. I mean a great

976
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Speaker 8: example of that to me was the twenty seven yarder

977
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Speaker 8: to Shakiir, not the eighty one yarder, which obviously was

978
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Speaker 8: a big, big, time throw. But the twenty seven yarder

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Speaker 8: to Shakir where they basically ran a high low on

980
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Speaker 8: both sides and it really presented a you know, a

981
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Speaker 8: clean throwing opportunity within timing and structure, and I think

982
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Speaker 8: you really want to work toward that because you can't

983
00:54:38,920 --> 00:54:42,000
Speaker 8: live on Josh. You know, you know, it's easy to say, well,

984
00:54:42,000 --> 00:54:44,640
Speaker 8: we're always going to be competitive because we have Josh Allen.

985
00:54:45,280 --> 00:54:47,920
Speaker 8: You know what does that mean? You know what is

986
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Speaker 8: is you're gonna expect him to just be superman every week.

987
00:54:51,480 --> 00:54:54,960
Speaker 8: Sometimes you have to just make plays within the structure

988
00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:57,880
Speaker 8: and be in a system that's effective.

989
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:02,359
Speaker 1: This this change over offensive coordinators, you know, you always

990
00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 1: get a little boost from it. And is there some

991
00:55:06,200 --> 00:55:09,000
Speaker 1: tangible stuff because listen, but I was gonna ask you

992
00:55:09,000 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 1: this as well. The Bills do need to play more

993
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 1: consistently offensively, particularly in the turnover margin, but also this

994
00:55:16,800 --> 00:55:19,160
Speaker 1: game this week, this may be as deep a roster

995
00:55:19,200 --> 00:55:21,320
Speaker 1: as they've faced all year. Is that accurate?

996
00:55:23,000 --> 00:55:25,640
Speaker 8: Oh, the Eagles are a really good team. Now. One

997
00:55:25,640 --> 00:55:29,880
Speaker 8: area where the Eagles have struggled and at times has

998
00:55:29,920 --> 00:55:32,279
Speaker 8: been in their secondary and now there have been games

999
00:55:32,280 --> 00:55:35,239
Speaker 8: where that's been compensated and camouflaged by the fact that

1000
00:55:35,280 --> 00:55:38,400
Speaker 8: they have a great pass rush and a tremendous defensive

1001
00:55:38,400 --> 00:55:41,680
Speaker 8: line rotation, And that could be an issue in this game.

1002
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Speaker 8: Because Hassan Reddick, he comes from the left side, I

1003
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Speaker 8: would imagine he'll cause Spencer Brown problems at times. The

1004
00:55:48,800 --> 00:55:50,839
Speaker 8: question is what does that mean for the Bills? Does

1005
00:55:50,880 --> 00:55:54,680
Speaker 8: that mean chips? Does that mean formation looks that try

1006
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Speaker 8: to eliminate that, But keep one thing in mind. As

1007
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Speaker 8: good as Reddick is, Josh Schuett from the other side,

1008
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:02,960
Speaker 8: actually has more quarterback pressures. Josh, what is their best

1009
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,920
Speaker 8: overall defensive lineman. So you know that's a potential issue

1010
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Speaker 8: as well. But in the secondary, last week they made

1011
00:56:10,280 --> 00:56:13,759
Speaker 8: a change that probably was a very smart one given

1012
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Speaker 8: that I watched the Eagles every week, because James Bradbury

1013
00:56:17,280 --> 00:56:20,280
Speaker 8: has not played particularly well this year. So last week

1014
00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 8: they made Darius Slay their boundary corner every snap and

1015
00:56:27,200 --> 00:56:30,480
Speaker 8: they made Bradbury the field corner, whereas prior to that

1016
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Speaker 8: they were playing sides and Bradbury was getting burned a

1017
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Speaker 8: little too much. So they made that change because the

1018
00:56:36,840 --> 00:56:41,080
Speaker 8: boundary corner ends up playing more man to man coverage,

1019
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Speaker 8: even if it's his own concept, so Slay became the

1020
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Speaker 8: boundary corner a week ago. I would assume they'd stay

1021
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Speaker 8: with that.

1022
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Speaker 2: And we saw Bayard and Roby get red zone takeaways

1023
00:56:52,200 --> 00:56:56,640
Speaker 2: last week against the Chiefs and Bayard was on Kelsey

1024
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Speaker 2: for a part of that game as well, matchup part

1025
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Speaker 2: of the guys, would you anticipate he draws Kincaid as

1026
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,600
Speaker 2: an assignment as well in this week's matchup?

1027
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Speaker 8: Absolutely, because Bayern's done that his whole career. When he

1028
00:57:10,840 --> 00:57:13,160
Speaker 8: was with Tennessee when they played the Chiefs, he would

1029
00:57:13,160 --> 00:57:16,919
Speaker 8: always match up to Kelsey. You know, he's a tight

1030
00:57:17,040 --> 00:57:19,200
Speaker 8: end matchup. That's what he's been his whole career. He

1031
00:57:19,320 --> 00:57:21,800
Speaker 8: will get King Kaid when they choose to play man.

1032
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Speaker 8: And Eagles play a pretty good amount of man coverage.

1033
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:26,800
Speaker 8: You know, they're in the top ten in the league

1034
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Speaker 8: and the amount of man coverage they play, so they

1035
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Speaker 8: will play man. So now the question becomes the route

1036
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Speaker 8: concepts to attack and defeat man, which I think they're

1037
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Speaker 8: going to need to do.

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Speaker 2: You know.

1039
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Speaker 8: I also look, last week's game was such that they

1040
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Speaker 8: could stay with the run game because they got ahead,

1041
00:57:43,240 --> 00:57:46,120
Speaker 8: and the only way you lose, And we're just being honest,

1042
00:57:46,120 --> 00:57:48,040
Speaker 8: The only way you lose to the Jets or allow

1043
00:57:48,120 --> 00:57:50,280
Speaker 8: them to stay in a game with Zach Wilson at

1044
00:57:50,360 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 8: quarterback is if you turn it over. So they were

1045
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Speaker 8: going to stay with the run. Game this week will

1046
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Speaker 8: likely be different. The Eagles will score. So I'm very

1047
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Speaker 8: curious to see, you know, what Joe Brady does, you know,

1048
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:04,920
Speaker 8: from an offensive perspective, whether he thinks, okay, we have

1049
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Speaker 8: to put this game in Josh's hands, or whether if

1050
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Speaker 8: it's relatively close, you know, if the Eagles don't run

1051
00:58:11,840 --> 00:58:15,120
Speaker 8: away with it. Let's say, if he feels, hey, we

1052
00:58:15,160 --> 00:58:17,840
Speaker 8: can run the ball a bit, we can stay you know,

1053
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Speaker 8: balanced whatever that means for each team, but somewhat balanced.

1054
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Speaker 1: So you got this team with a Joe Brady offense,

1055
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Speaker 1: and that's the kind of the decision you got to make.

1056
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Speaker 1: How you're gonna play it. You've got to kind of

1057
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Speaker 1: keep abreast of them. Jalen Hurst has got like twenty

1058
00:58:31,480 --> 00:58:33,800
Speaker 1: four total touchdowns on the year. Josh, you got twenty eight.

1059
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Speaker 1: They're one and two in the league. You do expect

1060
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:39,040
Speaker 1: this game. I mean, you're gonna have to keep up

1061
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:40,760
Speaker 1: on the scoreboard, right, It's not going to be like

1062
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Speaker 1: a six to three matchup right on this these team's

1063
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Speaker 1: gonna no no, and.

1064
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Speaker 8: Just Steve, I think you guys would agree because of

1065
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Speaker 8: the Bills on defense, with the injuries they've had. You know,

1066
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Speaker 8: it's it's you know, you hope they play really well,

1067
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Speaker 8: but they're not likely to hold the Eagles totally down.

1068
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Speaker 8: The Eagles have great weapon on the perimeter in aj Brown,

1069
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Speaker 8: who's certainly a top three, top five receiver in this league.

1070
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Speaker 8: DeVonta Smith is really good. Obviously Goddard's not gonna play,

1071
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Speaker 8: so he's a top tight end. But you know, the

1072
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Speaker 8: Eagles have a lot of weapons. They have a really

1073
00:59:15,040 --> 00:59:19,160
Speaker 8: good offensive system. So you know, Hurts is an interesting

1074
00:59:19,160 --> 00:59:22,400
Speaker 8: guy because he's obviously very very good, but they run

1075
00:59:22,440 --> 00:59:25,800
Speaker 8: a really good system as well that presents a lot

1076
00:59:25,840 --> 00:59:28,320
Speaker 8: of clean looks for him, and he just he executes

1077
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:32,280
Speaker 8: at a high level and he gives you second reactionability.

1078
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 8: So you know, in many ways, it's it's tough in

1079
00:59:35,480 --> 00:59:38,160
Speaker 8: a number of areas when you play the Eagles because

1080
00:59:38,440 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 8: Hurts can make those special plays that Josh can as

1081
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:45,440
Speaker 8: we're seeing right here, but he also can run the

1082
00:59:45,480 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 8: system really effectively, and that's that's the way he's grown

1083
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:51,160
Speaker 8: as a quarterback to the point where he's one of

1084
00:59:51,200 --> 00:59:52,960
Speaker 8: the higher level quarterbacks in the league.

1085
00:59:53,200 --> 00:59:57,720
Speaker 2: Without Goddard, last week, we saw the Eagles dip their

1086
00:59:57,760 --> 01:00:01,280
Speaker 2: toe into some four wide looks, know, going down personnel

1087
01:00:01,360 --> 01:00:05,959
Speaker 2: a little bit. Should we, especially knowing that the bill

1088
01:00:06,080 --> 01:00:09,680
Speaker 2: secondary is going to be a little shorthanded because Taylor

1089
01:00:09,800 --> 01:00:13,840
Speaker 2: rap and Dane Jackson have already been ruled out of

1090
01:00:13,880 --> 01:00:19,080
Speaker 2: this game. Should we? Should we expect to see more

1091
01:00:19,240 --> 01:00:21,480
Speaker 2: four wide looks from the Eagles to try to try

1092
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:22,840
Speaker 2: to spread that secondary thin.

1093
01:00:24,320 --> 01:00:26,920
Speaker 8: Yeah, I would expect that, especially with the quality of

1094
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:29,720
Speaker 8: their all line. I think that they always feel like

1095
01:00:29,760 --> 01:00:32,600
Speaker 8: they can protect Brownie. You know, they got arguably the

1096
01:00:32,600 --> 01:00:34,760
Speaker 8: best a line in the league, and I don't think

1097
01:00:34,800 --> 01:00:38,080
Speaker 8: they viewed protection against any opponent as a problem. So

1098
01:00:38,720 --> 01:00:42,320
Speaker 8: I would think that you will see four Why. You know,

1099
01:00:42,400 --> 01:00:45,120
Speaker 8: Julio Jones is there. He's not what he was obviously,

1100
01:00:45,400 --> 01:00:46,960
Speaker 8: but he doesn't need to be. They're not going to

1101
01:00:47,000 --> 01:00:49,680
Speaker 8: play him sixty snaps in the game. So I think

1102
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:52,480
Speaker 8: last week they played eleven snaps out of ten personnel

1103
01:00:52,800 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 8: one back for why, I would expect a number in

1104
01:00:56,560 --> 01:00:59,320
Speaker 8: that range, and it would not surprise me if Julio

1105
01:00:59,400 --> 01:01:01,479
Speaker 8: Jones gets a few more targets this week.

1106
01:01:02,000 --> 01:01:04,840
Speaker 1: As you mentioned, they they're so deep at their defensive line.

1107
01:01:04,840 --> 01:01:08,320
Speaker 1: They've got that huge rotation. They actually yeah, they released

1108
01:01:08,360 --> 01:01:10,840
Speaker 1: Derek Barnett today. It didn't I guess he was not

1109
01:01:10,920 --> 01:01:11,720
Speaker 1: playing very much.

1110
01:01:11,760 --> 01:01:13,680
Speaker 2: I give us a little insight.

1111
01:01:13,320 --> 01:01:15,800
Speaker 8: Maybe getting well snaps a game maybe right.

1112
01:01:15,840 --> 01:01:19,120
Speaker 1: Give me give us an insight as to their defensive line.

1113
01:01:19,160 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: What makes it? Who are the you know who plays

1114
01:01:21,080 --> 01:01:23,680
Speaker 1: with who? I mean, those guys are big, young, athletic.

1115
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:27,080
Speaker 1: I mean, they're they got some horses over there. They do.

1116
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:30,360
Speaker 8: They play a ton steve of five man fronts. Now,

1117
01:01:30,400 --> 01:01:33,160
Speaker 8: they'll play four man fronts as well, obviously, but their

1118
01:01:33,200 --> 01:01:36,920
Speaker 8: their foundation is the five man front. Sweat and Breddick

1119
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:40,840
Speaker 8: are usually on the edge. Fletcher Cox and Milton Williams

1120
01:01:40,960 --> 01:01:43,200
Speaker 8: is a name. I know you guys are familiar with

1121
01:01:43,240 --> 01:01:45,240
Speaker 8: them because you're playing the Eagles this week. But he's

1122
01:01:45,280 --> 01:01:49,320
Speaker 8: had a phenomenal season. He is really good inside, kind

1123
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,800
Speaker 8: of playing that five technique that four I and then

1124
01:01:52,880 --> 01:01:55,160
Speaker 8: Jordan Davis is a load right in the middle. He's

1125
01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:58,120
Speaker 8: really good in the run game. Not a great pass

1126
01:01:58,200 --> 01:02:02,520
Speaker 8: rusher yet, but he is a big, big body with

1127
01:02:02,680 --> 01:02:05,320
Speaker 8: strength and power in the middle of that defense. And

1128
01:02:05,360 --> 01:02:07,520
Speaker 8: Fletcher Cox is still playing, you know, at a pretty

1129
01:02:07,600 --> 01:02:10,000
Speaker 8: high level and playing a lot of snaps. You know,

1130
01:02:10,040 --> 01:02:12,360
Speaker 8: I think most of us thought going into this season

1131
01:02:12,400 --> 01:02:14,800
Speaker 8: at his age he would not be playing this number

1132
01:02:14,840 --> 01:02:17,280
Speaker 8: of snaps on a weekly basis, but he is, and

1133
01:02:17,320 --> 01:02:21,520
Speaker 8: he's played well. But Sweat is a big time all

1134
01:02:21,600 --> 01:02:25,000
Speaker 8: around the end. He's he's their best overall the alignment.

1135
01:02:25,840 --> 01:02:29,960
Speaker 8: But Reddick is just He's an explosive, explosive edge rusher,

1136
01:02:30,200 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 8: and I think that's one matchup with Brown that it'll

1137
01:02:33,080 --> 01:02:36,720
Speaker 8: be interesting to see how the Bills deal with it.

1138
01:02:36,800 --> 01:02:38,360
Speaker 8: You know, you can deal with it too by the

1139
01:02:38,440 --> 01:02:41,439
Speaker 8: nature of your your passing game, but it will get

1140
01:02:41,440 --> 01:02:43,800
Speaker 8: to be third and long, so then you'll then you'll

1141
01:02:43,800 --> 01:02:45,360
Speaker 8: find out how they really want to deal with it.

1142
01:02:45,440 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 2: Yeah, It'll be really interesting to see what the final

1143
01:02:48,160 --> 01:02:51,000
Speaker 2: Eagles injury report reveals because Milton Williams has been in

1144
01:02:51,040 --> 01:02:54,280
Speaker 2: concussion protocol all week and he hasn't hasn't practiced, So.

1145
01:02:54,720 --> 01:02:57,800
Speaker 8: That's right that I A. And he's played really well.

1146
01:02:57,640 --> 01:02:59,800
Speaker 2: For them, Yeah, No, I mean he definitely flashed last

1147
01:02:59,800 --> 01:03:03,000
Speaker 2: week against the Chiefs. I noticed it, h right, Well,

1148
01:03:03,200 --> 01:03:03,760
Speaker 2: he can't go.

1149
01:03:04,320 --> 01:03:06,640
Speaker 8: If he can't go, and by the way, obviously we're

1150
01:03:06,640 --> 01:03:09,080
Speaker 8: doing this on Friday, and if he can't go, and

1151
01:03:09,120 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 8: it sounds like he may not, it's rare that a

1152
01:03:12,320 --> 01:03:15,040
Speaker 8: guy goes the next week. I'd totally forgotten about that.

1153
01:03:15,080 --> 01:03:18,240
Speaker 8: Thank you for reminding me. You know that it doesn't

1154
01:03:18,280 --> 01:03:21,200
Speaker 8: decimate them, but it'll be interesting to see because Josh

1155
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:24,480
Speaker 8: Schweat can move inside as well, it might mean more

1156
01:03:24,480 --> 01:03:26,360
Speaker 8: snaps for the rookie Nolan Smith.

1157
01:03:27,400 --> 01:03:30,480
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, And I was wondering if Nolan Smith might

1158
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:32,640
Speaker 2: play more just by virtue of the fact that Barnett's

1159
01:03:32,640 --> 01:03:35,120
Speaker 2: been released. I mean, I know that he usually backs

1160
01:03:35,200 --> 01:03:38,000
Speaker 2: up Reddick on the other side, but I'm kind of wondering,

1161
01:03:38,000 --> 01:03:40,760
Speaker 2: now does he rotate in more, you know, to release

1162
01:03:40,880 --> 01:03:42,080
Speaker 2: those guys in their rotation.

1163
01:03:42,800 --> 01:03:45,120
Speaker 8: And by the way, Sweat in their five man front

1164
01:03:45,200 --> 01:03:49,160
Speaker 8: has throughout these last couple of years, played meaningful snaps inside,

1165
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:52,040
Speaker 8: so you could certainly see that, and you could see

1166
01:03:52,040 --> 01:03:55,640
Speaker 8: Smith getting you know, maybe twenty snaps as playing on

1167
01:03:55,680 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 8: the edge. He's an explosive kid. He's not big, very

1168
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,080
Speaker 8: thin waist. Did you know the kind of waste we'd

1169
01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,240
Speaker 8: all like to have right now? But but that kid

1170
01:04:05,320 --> 01:04:07,400
Speaker 8: is an explosive athlete.

1171
01:04:07,320 --> 01:04:10,240
Speaker 2: And I know that. You know, Jalen hasn't taken off

1172
01:04:10,240 --> 01:04:13,760
Speaker 2: and run as much since the knee injury, although right,

1173
01:04:14,080 --> 01:04:18,720
Speaker 2: he's not shy about extending plays when necessary. So what

1174
01:04:18,880 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: has been the general defensive approach from opponents in terms

1175
01:04:23,840 --> 01:04:27,600
Speaker 2: of keeping him corralled so to speak, and not ripping

1176
01:04:27,680 --> 01:04:30,120
Speaker 2: off eighty yards rushing in a game?

1177
01:04:30,360 --> 01:04:33,720
Speaker 8: For example, it's been it's been multiple Some teams will spy,

1178
01:04:34,480 --> 01:04:37,400
Speaker 8: other teams will sort of, you know, have kind of

1179
01:04:37,440 --> 01:04:41,280
Speaker 8: a contained rush. He almost always leaves the pocket to

1180
01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:44,280
Speaker 8: his right, and yet you know, you have to be

1181
01:04:44,320 --> 01:04:47,320
Speaker 8: aware of that. Now. Obviously if the middle opens wide up,

1182
01:04:47,360 --> 01:04:50,120
Speaker 8: he'll just go forward, but he tends to leave the

1183
01:04:50,160 --> 01:04:53,320
Speaker 8: pocket to his right. And don't forget, you know, the

1184
01:04:53,400 --> 01:04:56,440
Speaker 8: design run as a factor. Last week in the second half,

1185
01:04:57,240 --> 01:05:01,080
Speaker 8: they called a bunch of design rus for him, and

1186
01:05:01,800 --> 01:05:04,800
Speaker 8: last year that was a major part of their offense.

1187
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:07,640
Speaker 8: And that really dictates how you have to line up

1188
01:05:07,640 --> 01:05:10,680
Speaker 8: and play defensively. And another factor too, and we're looking

1189
01:05:10,720 --> 01:05:13,840
Speaker 8: at it right here. This this brotherly shove. That's a

1190
01:05:13,880 --> 01:05:16,960
Speaker 8: big deal because the Eagles are in many ways a

1191
01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:20,680
Speaker 8: four down offense. You know, so if they get to

1192
01:05:21,200 --> 01:05:24,800
Speaker 8: fourth and two yards or less, they're going for it.

1193
01:05:24,800 --> 01:05:27,840
Speaker 8: It's it's a given they are going for so they

1194
01:05:27,880 --> 01:05:30,200
Speaker 8: are and they'll go for it anywhere on the field.

1195
01:05:30,280 --> 01:05:32,000
Speaker 8: So it's not, oh, they're only going to go for

1196
01:05:32,320 --> 01:05:35,000
Speaker 8: if they're across the fifty yard line. They they're a

1197
01:05:35,040 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 8: four down offense depending on what that fourth down call is,

1198
01:05:39,080 --> 01:05:42,439
Speaker 8: you know, the yards to go or the line to gain.

1199
01:05:42,520 --> 01:05:45,960
Speaker 8: I guess everybody says now. But so that's something to

1200
01:05:46,000 --> 01:05:48,919
Speaker 8: be aware of, you know, just you can you see

1201
01:05:49,000 --> 01:05:51,640
Speaker 8: how excited teams get when a team comes up short

1202
01:05:51,680 --> 01:05:53,800
Speaker 8: of a first down and it's fourth and one. Not

1203
01:05:53,920 --> 01:05:56,000
Speaker 8: with the Eagles, you can't get excited. They're gonna go

1204
01:05:56,080 --> 01:05:58,040
Speaker 8: for and you know what, they make them right.

1205
01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,920
Speaker 1: And that's what are your what are your thoughts of

1206
01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:04,480
Speaker 1: about that? Because there's no question the simultaneous get off

1207
01:06:04,520 --> 01:06:07,160
Speaker 1: time they have with their interior offensive line, I mean,

1208
01:06:07,160 --> 01:06:10,360
Speaker 1: it's all you know, It's like they're all the center,

1209
01:06:10,400 --> 01:06:12,720
Speaker 1: they all go on the center. It's a great jump

1210
01:06:12,760 --> 01:06:16,200
Speaker 1: they get on the snap count. Yeah, the submarine aspect

1211
01:06:16,280 --> 01:06:17,920
Speaker 1: of it and the and the surge that they can

1212
01:06:17,960 --> 01:06:21,640
Speaker 1: get from it. Has anybody come up with any sort

1213
01:06:21,680 --> 01:06:25,600
Speaker 1: of plan even if it hasn't worked, rather than just

1214
01:06:25,600 --> 01:06:26,480
Speaker 1: to push against it.

1215
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,560
Speaker 8: You know. It's funny, Steve. You know, I'm kind of

1216
01:06:30,560 --> 01:06:34,120
Speaker 8: a purist, and you know, I know it's it's legal

1217
01:06:34,200 --> 01:06:37,120
Speaker 8: in the rules, so therefore take advantage of it. But

1218
01:06:37,200 --> 01:06:42,040
Speaker 8: it's not my favorite play, you know. Yeah, I mean,

1219
01:06:42,280 --> 01:06:44,920
Speaker 8: I'm being I'm being kind. It's not my favorite play.

1220
01:06:45,320 --> 01:06:48,520
Speaker 8: So no, normally when I see it, I don't study it.

1221
01:06:48,560 --> 01:06:50,080
Speaker 8: I just like, you know, watch it and then I

1222
01:06:50,160 --> 01:06:52,800
Speaker 8: move on to the next play. But there's no question,

1223
01:06:53,040 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 8: because it's it's legal and allowable. They're the best team

1224
01:06:56,840 --> 01:07:00,120
Speaker 8: in the league far and away executing that play, and

1225
01:07:00,160 --> 01:07:02,640
Speaker 8: it changes the whole approach to the game. I mean,

1226
01:07:02,960 --> 01:07:05,200
Speaker 8: I remember it wasn't this past week, but I think

1227
01:07:05,200 --> 01:07:08,080
Speaker 8: the week before they went for fourth and one. I

1228
01:07:08,080 --> 01:07:10,240
Speaker 8: think they were on like their own twenty eight yard line.

1229
01:07:10,320 --> 01:07:12,800
Speaker 8: You know, that's unheard of, but they they'll do that.

1230
01:07:12,880 --> 01:07:15,400
Speaker 8: It doesn't matter. That's just part of who they are,

1231
01:07:15,480 --> 01:07:16,800
Speaker 8: what they do, and they make it.

1232
01:07:17,120 --> 01:07:19,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, that offensive line. Though they did have their share

1233
01:07:19,880 --> 01:07:23,480
Speaker 2: of problems with the Chiefs front. Steve Spagnolo kind of

1234
01:07:23,480 --> 01:07:26,439
Speaker 2: threw the kitchen sink at them. Hurts got taken down

1235
01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:29,080
Speaker 2: almost a half dozen times on sacks. He was pressured

1236
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:32,800
Speaker 2: on a number of others not for nothing. But the

1237
01:07:32,840 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 2: Bills are coming in here with the second most sacks

1238
01:07:34,800 --> 01:07:37,200
Speaker 2: in the league, behind only Baltimore. I mean they have

1239
01:07:37,320 --> 01:07:40,760
Speaker 2: a formidable front that they can throw at this Eagles front.

1240
01:07:40,800 --> 01:07:43,520
Speaker 2: I mean, if they can get them in some you know,

1241
01:07:43,640 --> 01:07:46,640
Speaker 2: third and medium, some third and longs, that's when Buffalo's

1242
01:07:46,640 --> 01:07:51,240
Speaker 2: defense really shines. I realize that is easier said than done.

1243
01:07:51,280 --> 01:07:53,800
Speaker 2: It's a formidable offense that the Eagles can put on

1244
01:07:53,840 --> 01:07:58,560
Speaker 2: the field. I'm just kind of curious what you think

1245
01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:01,120
Speaker 2: of that matchup and what the Bills, at least their

1246
01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:03,960
Speaker 2: defensive front can throw it into this group.

1247
01:08:04,920 --> 01:08:07,880
Speaker 8: Well, the Eagles O line has had two games this

1248
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:10,200
Speaker 8: year in which they struggled the Jets where they were

1249
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,480
Speaker 8: actually handled and they lost to the Jets, and then

1250
01:08:13,520 --> 01:08:16,200
Speaker 8: this past week where they did struggle. You're right, Brownie.

1251
01:08:16,320 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 8: So this becomes the unit for the Bills that really

1252
01:08:21,320 --> 01:08:23,960
Speaker 8: has to perform at a high level. They've got to

1253
01:08:24,000 --> 01:08:26,479
Speaker 8: get around Hurts. I will tell you this about Jalen Hurts.

1254
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:30,880
Speaker 8: He's a very good player, that's inarguable, But Jalen Hurts

1255
01:08:31,080 --> 01:08:34,360
Speaker 8: has a tendency to leave the pocket prematurely. He will

1256
01:08:34,439 --> 01:08:36,960
Speaker 8: drop his eyes and he will look to move. Now,

1257
01:08:37,000 --> 01:08:39,439
Speaker 8: he can make great plays when he does that, you know,

1258
01:08:40,040 --> 01:08:42,200
Speaker 8: just like Josh Allen can make great plays when he

1259
01:08:42,280 --> 01:08:45,400
Speaker 8: leaves the pocket. So but you do want to get

1260
01:08:45,479 --> 01:08:47,639
Speaker 8: him in that mode. You want to get him moving,

1261
01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,080
Speaker 8: and then you have to account for the movement. Now,

1262
01:08:51,080 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 8: as I said, and believe me, they probably have five

1263
01:08:54,000 --> 01:08:56,880
Speaker 8: guys studying just Jalen Hurts on the Bills, you know,

1264
01:08:56,960 --> 01:08:58,479
Speaker 8: Scout staff, the whole deal.

1265
01:08:58,800 --> 01:08:58,880
Speaker 1: Me.

1266
01:08:59,000 --> 01:09:01,800
Speaker 8: I'm one guy. I don't know every nook and granny here,

1267
01:09:01,960 --> 01:09:06,439
Speaker 8: every nuanced detail. But he predominantly moves right. You've got

1268
01:09:06,439 --> 01:09:08,880
Speaker 8: to be prepared for that. He will break down in

1269
01:09:08,920 --> 01:09:12,760
Speaker 8: the pocket prematurely, he will look to run. So you know,

1270
01:09:12,800 --> 01:09:14,439
Speaker 8: you want to get him in that mode. But then

1271
01:09:14,479 --> 01:09:17,680
Speaker 8: you've got to hand on it. So that's just the

1272
01:09:17,680 --> 01:09:18,120
Speaker 8: way it is.

1273
01:09:18,320 --> 01:09:20,840
Speaker 2: Last thing I wanted to throw at you, knowing the

1274
01:09:20,880 --> 01:09:24,880
Speaker 2: secondary shorthanded for the Bills. In terms of numbers, we've

1275
01:09:24,880 --> 01:09:28,439
Speaker 2: seen Rasul Douglas follow the number one receiver a little

1276
01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,160
Speaker 2: bit each of the last couple of weeks. He did

1277
01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:33,160
Speaker 2: it against Courtland Sutton on pass plays. He did it

1278
01:09:33,200 --> 01:09:36,879
Speaker 2: to a certain extent against Garrett Wilson last week. Logic

1279
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,320
Speaker 2: is telling me we should expect him to follow aj

1280
01:09:39,479 --> 01:09:40,559
Speaker 2: Brown around a little bit.

1281
01:09:41,680 --> 01:09:45,200
Speaker 8: Uh. I guess that's possible. Those things are always hard

1282
01:09:45,200 --> 01:09:49,160
Speaker 8: to know Brownie, but you know, he's their best corner,

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01:09:49,320 --> 01:09:52,639
Speaker 8: so it's possible. The Eagles do a really good job

1284
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,800
Speaker 8: moving the receivers around. You know, Brown is obviously a

1285
01:09:56,280 --> 01:09:59,960
Speaker 8: really good receiver, and so's DeVonta Smith. DeVonta Smith, you know,

1286
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:01,960
Speaker 8: he hasn't put up the numbers and he doesn't have

1287
01:10:01,960 --> 01:10:05,880
Speaker 8: the volume share that Brown has this year, but he's

1288
01:10:05,880 --> 01:10:08,320
Speaker 8: a really good receiver as well. So you know, those

1289
01:10:08,360 --> 01:10:12,080
Speaker 8: two guys are tough to handle. I'm curious how Sean

1290
01:10:12,120 --> 01:10:14,360
Speaker 8: I want to handle that. You know, he may decide that

1291
01:10:14,400 --> 01:10:17,479
Speaker 8: playing zone is the best way to go. We'll see.

1292
01:10:17,600 --> 01:10:21,360
Speaker 8: But but it's very possible with Douglas. You know, Douglas is.

1293
01:10:21,560 --> 01:10:24,160
Speaker 8: I think he's a good corner. He's never been, in

1294
01:10:24,200 --> 01:10:27,320
Speaker 8: my view, a great man corner. I think he's a

1295
01:10:27,360 --> 01:10:31,320
Speaker 8: great tear clure, you know, I think that's his strength.

1296
01:10:31,640 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 8: You know, I mean the interception, and I know people say,

1297
01:10:33,920 --> 01:10:36,160
Speaker 8: well it was Zach Wilson. But the interception he had

1298
01:10:36,240 --> 01:10:39,479
Speaker 8: last week where he fell off his uh, his guy

1299
01:10:39,560 --> 01:10:42,120
Speaker 8: and kind of uh, you know, it was his own concept,

1300
01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:43,960
Speaker 8: not this one. Who was the other? Didn't he have

1301
01:10:43,960 --> 01:10:44,599
Speaker 8: to last week?

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01:10:44,680 --> 01:10:45,080
Speaker 1: He did?

1303
01:10:45,160 --> 01:10:46,920
Speaker 2: And a fumble recovery fumble recovery.

1304
01:10:47,000 --> 01:10:48,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, the second one was the one I'm talking about

1305
01:10:49,160 --> 01:10:51,840
Speaker 8: where I think he was outside almost playing like a

1306
01:10:51,840 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 8: trap corner and he fell inside. He's really good at that,

1307
01:10:55,600 --> 01:10:56,400
Speaker 8: really good at that.

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01:10:56,880 --> 01:10:59,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, this is it, this is yeah, and you're right, Yeah,

1309
01:10:59,160 --> 01:11:00,960
Speaker 1: he fell off and just read Yeah, he reads the

1310
01:11:01,000 --> 01:11:04,160
Speaker 1: quarterback size extremely well. He's got good size. There's no

1311
01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:08,880
Speaker 1: question AJ Brown and their crew are really I mean,

1312
01:11:08,920 --> 01:11:11,760
Speaker 1: they're the NFC champs for a reason. And it's it's

1313
01:11:11,800 --> 01:11:13,280
Speaker 1: not all because of the tush push.

1314
01:11:13,920 --> 01:11:16,160
Speaker 8: Yeah, no, No, they're a really good team. I mean,

1315
01:11:16,479 --> 01:11:18,400
Speaker 8: you know, you got to remember, I mean you know

1316
01:11:18,479 --> 01:11:22,160
Speaker 8: it's they've won what like regular see I mean even

1317
01:11:22,200 --> 01:11:24,320
Speaker 8: if you count the Super Bowl, they what have they

1318
01:11:24,360 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 8: won something like twenty seven of their last thirty or

1319
01:11:27,360 --> 01:11:29,880
Speaker 8: twenty eight? I mean I don't know the numbers. Ridiculous, right,

1320
01:11:29,960 --> 01:11:31,479
Speaker 8: and you know that happens for a reason.

1321
01:11:32,280 --> 01:11:35,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, they are consistent. There's no doubt about that. And

1322
01:11:35,320 --> 01:11:38,240
Speaker 2: I was telling Steve one of the bigger differences between

1323
01:11:39,000 --> 01:11:43,680
Speaker 2: Alan and Hurtz is Hurts is really good when that

1324
01:11:43,720 --> 01:11:46,800
Speaker 2: team is up by a score, getting that game into

1325
01:11:46,840 --> 01:11:50,840
Speaker 2: the garage and notching the victor. He was really really

1326
01:11:50,880 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 2: good at that.

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01:11:51,880 --> 01:11:55,559
Speaker 8: And one final point when they've needed a drive. Okay,

1328
01:11:55,720 --> 01:11:58,479
Speaker 8: and this is cliched, but it's true. I mean, Steve

1329
01:11:58,560 --> 01:12:01,439
Speaker 8: knows this, you know, from playing. When they need a drive,

1330
01:12:01,520 --> 01:12:04,839
Speaker 8: a touchdown drive in the second half of games, they

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01:12:05,000 --> 01:12:09,440
Speaker 8: get it. Yeah, and you know, I mean that's they

1332
01:12:09,560 --> 01:12:10,960
Speaker 8: win games in the second half.

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Speaker 1: I mean they win yeah.

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01:12:12,760 --> 01:12:14,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, we're hoping for a close one and

1335
01:12:14,680 --> 01:12:18,960
Speaker 2: an entertaining one. Thanks Greg, all right, thanks guys, appreciate it.

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Speaker 2: All right, that's Greg co Sale, senior producer for NFL Films,

1337
01:12:21,680 --> 01:12:25,479
Speaker 2: joining us as he does every Friday. Yeah, I'm hoping

1338
01:12:25,560 --> 01:12:27,719
Speaker 2: for a tight game. So the Bills have a chance

1339
01:12:27,760 --> 01:12:31,040
Speaker 2: to pull one out, maybe with some late game heroics.

1340
01:12:31,960 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 2: But yeah, the Eagles are a consistent team. They don't

1341
01:12:35,960 --> 01:12:40,600
Speaker 2: beat themselves much. It's rare when they do. So the

1342
01:12:40,640 --> 01:12:42,880
Speaker 2: Bills have to be at their best in all three

1343
01:12:42,920 --> 01:12:45,840
Speaker 2: phases and then hope they can force them into a

1344
01:12:45,880 --> 01:12:49,400
Speaker 2: couple of uncharacteristic mistakes to get maybe a couple of

1345
01:12:49,439 --> 01:12:52,479
Speaker 2: extra chances for their offense, take points off the board

1346
01:12:52,520 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 2: for the Eagles offense, and then you know, maybe, just

1347
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:58,160
Speaker 2: maybe you come up with a win that nobody was

1348
01:12:58,200 --> 01:13:02,000
Speaker 2: expecting because they need one. They need it. They need

1349
01:13:02,000 --> 01:13:03,320
Speaker 2: this game more than the Eagles do.

1350
01:13:04,680 --> 01:13:09,280
Speaker 1: Yes, they do, no question. And also it's interesting to

1351
01:13:09,320 --> 01:13:12,559
Speaker 1: think about what will happen to the narrative going into

1352
01:13:12,560 --> 01:13:14,919
Speaker 1: the by coming off a win off the NFC champions.

1353
01:13:14,920 --> 01:13:17,000
Speaker 2: I mean, oh, if they pull it off, Yeah.

1354
01:13:16,720 --> 01:13:19,559
Speaker 1: What a huge boost it would be for morale, for everything.

1355
01:13:20,000 --> 01:13:23,440
Speaker 1: The whole national narrative about the Bills would change drastically.

1356
01:13:24,200 --> 01:13:27,200
Speaker 1: This is a big game for this team, much bigger

1357
01:13:27,200 --> 01:13:32,200
Speaker 1: than it is for Philly. And and it's also a yardstick.

1358
01:13:32,200 --> 01:13:35,800
Speaker 1: There's no question about it. I'd be Yeah, you got

1359
01:13:35,800 --> 01:13:38,760
Speaker 1: to You just got to acknowledge that. You've got to acknowledge.

1360
01:13:38,280 --> 01:13:42,479
Speaker 2: It, no question about it. We are getting the Bills

1361
01:13:42,680 --> 01:13:46,080
Speaker 2: Friday injury report as we speak. It has just been released,

1362
01:13:46,720 --> 01:13:49,960
Speaker 2: and here is your situation. Dan Jackson is out, Taylor

1363
01:13:50,040 --> 01:13:53,679
Speaker 2: rap is out, everybody else on the injury report good

1364
01:13:53,720 --> 01:13:56,559
Speaker 2: to go. So that means Micah Hyde will be up

1365
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:59,519
Speaker 2: on Sunday. Tarren Johnson will be up on Sunday. Cam

1366
01:13:59,600 --> 01:14:02,120
Speaker 2: Lewis will be up on Sunday. There were some other

1367
01:14:02,160 --> 01:14:04,559
Speaker 2: players on the injury list as well, but they were

1368
01:14:04,560 --> 01:14:07,559
Speaker 2: expected to go, and that's Trent Sheerfield, Dorian Williams and

1369
01:14:07,640 --> 01:14:10,599
Speaker 2: obviously Josh Allen all good to go. So your only

1370
01:14:10,640 --> 01:14:14,040
Speaker 2: players out for Sunday Dane Jackson and Taylor Rap And

1371
01:14:14,080 --> 01:14:17,719
Speaker 2: that's not nothing, but it is huge that Tarren Johnson

1372
01:14:17,760 --> 01:14:21,200
Speaker 2: is available for this game to play his familiar nickel

1373
01:14:21,439 --> 01:14:26,040
Speaker 2: corner spot. That is actually a gigantic development here late

1374
01:14:26,080 --> 01:14:28,599
Speaker 2: in the week for the Bills. Steve and I take

1375
01:14:28,640 --> 01:14:30,599
Speaker 2: a break here, but when we come back, we've got

1376
01:14:30,640 --> 01:14:35,479
Speaker 2: your Collision Course and tailgate Friday. What is on your menu?

1377
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,400
Speaker 2: I know it's a road game, but we know people

1378
01:14:37,439 --> 01:14:41,639
Speaker 2: tailgate in their own driveways sometimes on Sunday game days

1379
01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:43,519
Speaker 2: for the Bills, let us know what's on your menu.

1380
01:14:43,600 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 2: Next Here on one Bills Live, presented by Colida Health,

1381
01:14:45,880 --> 01:15:02,439
Speaker 2: it's Buffalo Bills Radio. All right, it is time for

1382
01:15:02,560 --> 01:15:06,639
Speaker 2: Collision Course, brought to you by Gabe's Collision, the official

1383
01:15:06,680 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 2: auto collision repair center of the Buffalo Bills get back

1384
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:12,720
Speaker 2: in the game. We were talking to Greg co Sell

1385
01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 2: in the last segment about the Bills defensive line against

1386
01:15:16,040 --> 01:15:18,479
Speaker 2: the Eagles O line, but our collision course this week

1387
01:15:18,920 --> 01:15:23,760
Speaker 2: is Buffalo's O line against the Eagles defensive line. We

1388
01:15:23,840 --> 01:15:27,599
Speaker 2: heard Greg talk to us about how they are loaded

1389
01:15:27,680 --> 01:15:30,160
Speaker 2: up front, not only in terms of pass rushers on

1390
01:15:30,200 --> 01:15:34,040
Speaker 2: the edge, but beef in the middle. Fletcher Cox and

1391
01:15:34,120 --> 01:15:37,960
Speaker 2: Jordan Davis, two gigantic humans. Do you want to know

1392
01:15:38,000 --> 01:15:42,240
Speaker 2: how big Jordan Davis is? They list him, and this

1393
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,960
Speaker 2: is almost comical. They list Jordan Davis at three thirty six.

1394
01:15:47,600 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna tell you right now, there is no

1395
01:15:50,920 --> 01:15:55,200
Speaker 2: way he is three thirty six. No way. I mean

1396
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,160
Speaker 2: he is at least three and a half bills. He

1397
01:15:57,280 --> 01:16:01,360
Speaker 2: is a giant human being. His head, his head alone

1398
01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:02,719
Speaker 2: might weigh fifty pounds.

1399
01:16:03,560 --> 01:16:06,479
Speaker 1: Well, even if they missed by fifteen pounds, is only

1400
01:16:06,520 --> 01:16:07,160
Speaker 1: five percent.

1401
01:16:07,640 --> 01:16:12,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, think about that. Yeah, So they've got you know,

1402
01:16:12,680 --> 01:16:17,200
Speaker 2: they've got strong, sturdy interior players. They have quick, bend

1403
01:16:17,200 --> 01:16:20,479
Speaker 2: the edge type pass rushers. You heard Greg Cosel himself

1404
01:16:20,479 --> 01:16:23,240
Speaker 2: say Josh Sweat is probably their best pass rusher overall,

1405
01:16:24,280 --> 01:16:27,040
Speaker 2: and he doesn't even lead the team in sacks hasan

1406
01:16:27,120 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 2: reddick does with eight and a half. So they've got

1407
01:16:30,800 --> 01:16:33,000
Speaker 2: they've got players on the front line, and then they

1408
01:16:33,080 --> 01:16:36,280
Speaker 2: got other guys they can rotate through, similar to Buffalo's

1409
01:16:36,320 --> 01:16:39,680
Speaker 2: defensive line, which is pretty comparable. But I really like

1410
01:16:39,720 --> 01:16:42,360
Speaker 2: the way Buffalo's offensive line has played the last couple

1411
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:45,479
Speaker 2: of weeks. The run game has really gotten on track

1412
01:16:45,520 --> 01:16:48,519
Speaker 2: the last two weeks with the performance of the guys

1413
01:16:48,600 --> 01:16:50,559
Speaker 2: up front and winning the battle of the line of scrimmage,

1414
01:16:50,560 --> 01:16:52,800
Speaker 2: which we hear coach McDermott talking about all the time.

1415
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:55,160
Speaker 2: It is a stiff test this week, and it is

1416
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,840
Speaker 2: on the road, you know, so sometimes you know, with

1417
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,439
Speaker 2: silent count you don't get off as quick as you

1418
01:17:00,479 --> 01:17:02,160
Speaker 2: do when you don't have to resort to that.

1419
01:17:03,000 --> 01:17:05,040
Speaker 1: The way they played last weekend and the way the

1420
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:07,800
Speaker 1: Chiefs have been playing, this is the most difficult game

1421
01:17:07,840 --> 01:17:11,280
Speaker 1: of the season for the Buffalo Bills. This whole line, yeah,

1422
01:17:11,320 --> 01:17:14,160
Speaker 1: this one, Uh, this is it. This is that, the

1423
01:17:14,200 --> 01:17:16,799
Speaker 1: whole roster of the team. Everything. They're playing the NFC

1424
01:17:16,840 --> 01:17:20,560
Speaker 1: defending champs. They're eight and one on the season. H

1425
01:17:21,720 --> 01:17:24,760
Speaker 1: This it's all about it. This is a yardstick. This

1426
01:17:24,800 --> 01:17:26,719
Speaker 1: is going to be a very difficult game to win.

1427
01:17:27,200 --> 01:17:31,720
Speaker 1: They're a great roster, they got a young athletic quarterback

1428
01:17:31,760 --> 01:17:35,280
Speaker 1: who's making all the plays. They've got this tush push

1429
01:17:35,360 --> 01:17:38,360
Speaker 1: secret weapon thing that they use that gives them an

1430
01:17:38,400 --> 01:17:41,200
Speaker 1: added advantage even statistically and analytically.

1431
01:17:42,360 --> 01:17:45,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're number one fourteen for YEA football.

1432
01:17:45,200 --> 01:17:50,559
Speaker 1: And you're in their joint. So this, if you know,

1433
01:17:50,640 --> 01:17:54,080
Speaker 1: this would be an enormous an enormous feather in the

1434
01:17:54,120 --> 01:17:55,720
Speaker 1: cap of the Buffalo Bills if they can go into

1435
01:17:55,720 --> 01:17:57,600
Speaker 1: Philadelphia and beat this team.

1436
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,519
Speaker 2: Yes, And I think how the offensive line performs against

1437
01:18:02,560 --> 01:18:04,400
Speaker 2: the Eagles defensive front is going to go a long

1438
01:18:04,400 --> 01:18:07,640
Speaker 2: way and determining how Buffalo is able to stay on

1439
01:18:07,720 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 2: the field, extend drives and finish drives with touchdowns. One

1440
01:18:12,320 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 2: area where the Eagles have not been good defensively is

1441
01:18:15,400 --> 01:18:17,920
Speaker 2: defending their red zone. They're a lower They're in the

1442
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,360
Speaker 2: lower third of the league in keeping teams out of

1443
01:18:20,360 --> 01:18:22,160
Speaker 2: their end zone. You get down there inside the twenty,

1444
01:18:22,160 --> 01:18:23,880
Speaker 2: you've got a pretty good chance of putting some points

1445
01:18:23,880 --> 01:18:26,400
Speaker 2: on the board with six instead of three. And I

1446
01:18:26,479 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 2: think I think a lot of us feel the Bills

1447
01:18:28,400 --> 01:18:30,559
Speaker 2: have to do that in this matchup. If they're going

1448
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:31,759
Speaker 2: to come out on top.

1449
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:34,559
Speaker 1: Yeah, both of these teams. Is the case. They score

1450
01:18:34,920 --> 01:18:36,519
Speaker 1: the Eagles score, you got to you ain't got to

1451
01:18:36,520 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: get on top of them. If you can turn them

1452
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:39,679
Speaker 1: over a couple of times and win that battle, that's

1453
01:18:40,040 --> 01:18:42,639
Speaker 1: enormous as well. But you know that's always a roll

1454
01:18:42,640 --> 01:18:44,599
Speaker 1: of the dice and kind of how the ball bounces.

1455
01:18:44,640 --> 01:18:48,920
Speaker 1: But this is a team that is going to demand everything,

1456
01:18:50,640 --> 01:18:53,000
Speaker 1: especially over the course of sixty minutes. You're gonna have

1457
01:18:53,040 --> 01:18:54,719
Speaker 1: to click on all cylinders all the time.

1458
01:18:55,000 --> 01:19:00,920
Speaker 2: Right, Let's turn our attention to tailgate. We do this

1459
01:19:01,080 --> 01:19:03,040
Speaker 2: every Friday because we want to know what is on

1460
01:19:03,320 --> 01:19:06,880
Speaker 2: your menu when you're watching the Bills game, because home

1461
01:19:06,960 --> 01:19:09,800
Speaker 2: or away, we know people do the tailgate thing and

1462
01:19:09,840 --> 01:19:13,719
Speaker 2: cook up something special to eat while watching the game.

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Speaker 2: Tailgate Friday presented by high Mark, Blue Cross, Blue Shield,

1464
01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:21,000
Speaker 2: the official healthcare plan of the Buffalo Bills, and on

1465
01:19:21,040 --> 01:19:29,639
Speaker 2: our list this week, Rick says, not to dwell, but.

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Speaker 1: Yes, the other one is David.

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01:19:30,680 --> 01:19:32,640
Speaker 2: Sorry, I was on the wrong sheet here. I was

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01:19:32,960 --> 01:19:37,160
Speaker 2: looking at the other one. David says. Smash mouth football burgers.

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01:19:37,640 --> 01:19:40,240
Speaker 2: They really just smash burgers with Buffalo sauce and blue

1470
01:19:40,320 --> 01:19:44,080
Speaker 2: cheese mixed in, and then wings and fries with gallons

1471
01:19:44,120 --> 01:19:45,840
Speaker 2: of blue cheese dressing. I don't know if I could

1472
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:49,479
Speaker 2: go gallons. I like blue cheese much as the next person,

1473
01:19:49,520 --> 01:19:51,120
Speaker 2: but I don't over indulge.

1474
01:19:51,160 --> 01:19:52,519
Speaker 1: No, I love blue cheese dressing.

1475
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:54,200
Speaker 2: I do, but yeah, you put it on your salads

1476
01:19:54,240 --> 01:19:54,599
Speaker 2: all the time.

1477
01:19:54,640 --> 01:19:57,600
Speaker 1: I've seen all I eat. Yeah, I like that with

1478
01:19:57,720 --> 01:19:59,840
Speaker 1: buffalo sauce and blue cheese mixed in the ground beef.

1479
01:19:59,920 --> 01:20:02,080
Speaker 1: The smash burgers nice, and then with the wings and

1480
01:20:02,080 --> 01:20:06,639
Speaker 1: fries as well. Frieser fries are hard to do when

1481
01:20:06,640 --> 01:20:08,800
Speaker 1: you just don't buy them, you know, they're hard to do.

1482
01:20:08,920 --> 01:20:11,840
Speaker 1: You can't. Oven fries are like nothing, They're horrible. I

1483
01:20:11,840 --> 01:20:12,439
Speaker 1: don't like them.

1484
01:20:12,840 --> 01:20:15,160
Speaker 2: You just get a frozen You've got to bake them.

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01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:18,280
Speaker 1: Fry fries before they're Oh you don't like them baked?

1486
01:20:18,400 --> 01:20:21,200
Speaker 1: I no, that does not even count. And I don't

1487
01:20:21,280 --> 01:20:25,280
Speaker 1: like steak fries like the wedges, Oh why not? They're

1488
01:20:25,320 --> 01:20:27,439
Speaker 1: not crispy and they're like potato. You may as well

1489
01:20:27,560 --> 01:20:31,599
Speaker 1: just cut a baked potato made back, thank you.

1490
01:20:32,240 --> 01:20:34,920
Speaker 2: So you're only like crinkle cut and shoe string.

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01:20:35,400 --> 01:20:36,679
Speaker 1: I'll take waffle as long as.

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Speaker 2: They're you want to know why was the ultimate f

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Speaker 2: Why because you can dip them easy, greatest surface area

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01:20:44,560 --> 01:20:48,240
Speaker 2: to acquire ketchup. I'm with you because I'm a I'm

1495
01:20:48,280 --> 01:20:48,799
Speaker 2: a ketchup.

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Speaker 1: If you can do fries at home in a deep fryer.

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01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,479
Speaker 2: The air frars do pretty good job.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, it's fine, Yeah, I okay, but they gotta

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01:20:57,200 --> 01:20:57,960
Speaker 1: be crispy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. I like crispy. Yeah I don't.

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01:21:02,000 --> 01:21:03,920
Speaker 2: I mean the first is when you get fries from

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01:21:03,920 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 2: a fast food establishment and you can't eat him right

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01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:08,160
Speaker 2: away and by the time you get to wherever you

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01:21:08,200 --> 01:21:10,840
Speaker 2: are there sagi. That's the worst, the worst, is the

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01:21:10,920 --> 01:21:12,080
Speaker 2: absolute worst, the worst.

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Speaker 1: But if you can do those well without you know,

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01:21:16,960 --> 01:21:19,759
Speaker 1: having to buy him, you can do him yourself. Well

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01:21:19,840 --> 01:21:23,599
Speaker 1: that's that's kudos to you under it. It is very indead.

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01:21:23,640 --> 01:21:25,719
Speaker 2: I would agree with you. Let's go to the phones

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01:21:25,760 --> 01:21:29,759
Speaker 2: here on the OBL fan Friday and get to who's

1511
01:21:29,840 --> 01:21:32,479
Speaker 2: up here? We got Zach in north Tonawanda. Next, what

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01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:32,920
Speaker 2: do you got for.

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01:21:32,920 --> 01:21:37,680
Speaker 10: A zach Hey? So my big thing was when I

1514
01:21:37,680 --> 01:21:41,280
Speaker 10: forgot his name from NFL Films was talking about Josh

1515
01:21:41,280 --> 01:21:44,080
Speaker 10: Allen being like Superman. I mean, when did we come

1516
01:21:44,160 --> 01:21:46,720
Speaker 10: up with that name for him a couple of years ago, right,

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01:21:46,760 --> 01:21:51,040
Speaker 10: maybe a season ago, and he used to what run

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01:21:51,080 --> 01:21:53,719
Speaker 10: the ball good and moldy. I mean, he was making plays,

1519
01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:57,160
Speaker 10: he was hurdling defenders, he was truck he was not

1520
01:21:57,280 --> 01:22:02,880
Speaker 10: afraid to take off. And that's I mean, no team

1521
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:07,160
Speaker 10: wants that with their starting QB. Yes, but look at

1522
01:22:07,240 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 10: Josh Dobbs right now, and I think we need to

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01:22:11,479 --> 01:22:12,920
Speaker 10: do that again more just.

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01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:13,320
Speaker 3: A little bit.

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Speaker 10: I mean, in the last three weeks against Denver, Jets

1526
01:22:17,800 --> 01:22:22,360
Speaker 10: and Bengals, he ran the ball four times against Denver,

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01:22:22,960 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 10: eight times against Bengals and five against the Jets. So

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01:22:29,200 --> 01:22:31,320
Speaker 10: it's not a lot. But when you got Jalen Hurts

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01:22:31,400 --> 01:22:35,960
Speaker 10: running twelve times, Josh Dobbs running ten, even Russell Wilson

1530
01:22:36,040 --> 01:22:43,280
Speaker 10: ran the ball nine times, and defenses used to be

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01:22:43,320 --> 01:22:49,320
Speaker 10: afraid of us with running and passing. Yeah, and Gabe

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01:22:49,400 --> 01:22:54,040
Speaker 10: Davis isn't I love Gabe Davis? But last week what

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01:22:54,120 --> 01:22:58,640
Speaker 10: did he have? Nothing? And they know they have to

1534
01:22:58,680 --> 01:23:01,720
Speaker 10: cover digs with two, so then they're leaving it up

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01:23:01,760 --> 01:23:05,320
Speaker 10: with Shakir or kin Kaid. I don't know when Max

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01:23:05,400 --> 01:23:08,400
Speaker 10: is coming back, but they know that we don't have

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01:23:08,680 --> 01:23:11,080
Speaker 10: a lot of offensive weapons, and we just fired our

1538
01:23:11,120 --> 01:23:15,599
Speaker 10: offensive coordinator and we're looking like a week's team. And

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01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:19,400
Speaker 10: if we're standing in the pocket, our O line is

1540
01:23:19,400 --> 01:23:23,599
Speaker 10: a good old line, but how much can they hold

1541
01:23:23,720 --> 01:23:26,639
Speaker 10: up from a good defense like Philly. Like you said,

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01:23:27,000 --> 01:23:27,840
Speaker 10: the dude's a beast.

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01:23:28,880 --> 01:23:30,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, I get it. Those are all good points, Zach,

1544
01:23:30,840 --> 01:23:33,599
Speaker 2: and I respect him. I don't mind if you got

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01:23:33,600 --> 01:23:37,280
Speaker 2: some design runs for Josh. I really don't. I think

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01:23:37,320 --> 01:23:40,280
Speaker 2: he finished with ten total carries last week, and I

1547
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,599
Speaker 2: think the stats bear out when he has ten carries

1548
01:23:42,680 --> 01:23:45,120
Speaker 2: or more. The bills are something like nineteen and one.

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01:23:46,640 --> 01:23:49,559
Speaker 1: When he has ten had more five carries last week?

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01:23:50,120 --> 01:23:51,479
Speaker 2: Oh okay, I thought he had more than that.

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01:23:51,479 --> 01:23:54,519
Speaker 1: He had five carries. Here's the thing, too, but Jalen

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01:23:54,600 --> 01:23:58,479
Speaker 1: Hurts the tush push counts as a rushing attempt, so

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01:23:58,520 --> 01:24:00,320
Speaker 1: if he has four of those in the game, that

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01:24:00,400 --> 01:24:02,760
Speaker 1: kind of boosts his average. I don't think. I think,

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01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:05,280
Speaker 1: and Greg greg co sells the guy you couldn't remember

1556
01:24:05,280 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: from NFL films. Greg's told us, you know they're calling

1557
01:24:08,280 --> 01:24:11,240
Speaker 1: they've got some cold runs for Jalen Hurts as well.

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01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:14,320
Speaker 1: Although he's had a knee injury of the past month

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01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:16,479
Speaker 1: that have kind of changed their numbers a little bit,

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01:24:17,520 --> 01:24:20,640
Speaker 1: and rightfully so, he may getting be getting better and

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01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:25,160
Speaker 1: they may start doing that again. But I'm okay with

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01:24:25,280 --> 01:24:27,720
Speaker 1: Josh running it. He did a nice job of it.

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01:24:27,800 --> 01:24:30,639
Speaker 1: I like when he runs out of the pocket when

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01:24:30,680 --> 01:24:34,040
Speaker 1: things are covered, he just you know, he just converts

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01:24:34,400 --> 01:24:37,120
Speaker 1: a third down with his legs and then slides. Nobody

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01:24:37,200 --> 01:24:39,720
Speaker 1: has a problem with Josh running and never taking a hit.

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01:24:40,920 --> 01:24:43,160
Speaker 1: Everybody has a problem with Josh taking any kind of hit,

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01:24:43,200 --> 01:24:45,439
Speaker 1: whether he's in the pocket or running the football. So

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01:24:46,960 --> 01:24:49,519
Speaker 1: that's where, you know, that's the line you got to draw.

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01:24:49,880 --> 01:24:51,680
Speaker 1: If you need it to win a game, do it.

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01:24:52,560 --> 01:24:56,200
Speaker 1: But the holy grail is to have him never take

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01:24:56,240 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: a shot and still be able to win the game

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01:24:58,400 --> 01:25:01,880
Speaker 1: from the pocket or sliding down and converting a third

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01:25:01,920 --> 01:25:04,960
Speaker 1: down on a scramble. I'm with you, though, you get

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01:25:05,000 --> 01:25:07,320
Speaker 1: deep into the playoffs or getting the super Bowl, that

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01:25:07,439 --> 01:25:10,360
Speaker 1: kind of thing. Yeah, give him ten cold runs.

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01:25:10,439 --> 01:25:12,439
Speaker 2: Let's go and do whatever you gotta do, what you

1578
01:25:12,479 --> 01:25:12,880
Speaker 2: gotta do.

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01:25:13,000 --> 01:25:16,120
Speaker 1: Let's win the game. But you got to get there,

1580
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,120
Speaker 1: and you need him healthy to do it.

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01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,400
Speaker 2: Back to the phones, into Jack and Ken Moore, what

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01:25:21,439 --> 01:25:22,000
Speaker 2: do you got Jack.

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Speaker 9: Good afternoon, gentlemen. Good talking to his this with In

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01:25:26,600 --> 01:25:29,320
Speaker 9: my opinion, I could Philadelgia be a little bit flat

1585
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,360
Speaker 9: in this game because coming off that big game against

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01:25:33,040 --> 01:25:36,960
Speaker 9: the Chiefs. Okay, that's just my opinion, Okay. And the

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01:25:37,040 --> 01:25:40,280
Speaker 9: other thing is here that that played a ron. We

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01:25:40,360 --> 01:25:42,599
Speaker 9: used to run a little league high school.

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Speaker 10: Okay.

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01:25:43,320 --> 01:25:45,200
Speaker 11: We used to call a wedge. We had a wedge

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Speaker 11: one and a wedge too. He used to coach high

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01:25:48,439 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 11: school suri Ane. So that's why I think he came

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01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:54,320
Speaker 11: up with this thing. He calls it the tush push

1594
01:25:54,760 --> 01:25:58,120
Speaker 11: gold Bills. Let's beat the Philadelphia Eagles this week.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Thanks Jack. Yeah, I mean I get what

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01:26:01,439 --> 01:26:05,520
Speaker 2: you're saying. It was certainly an emotional victory for them

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01:26:05,960 --> 01:26:09,840
Speaker 2: last Monday night against the Chiefs because it was the

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01:26:09,920 --> 01:26:12,280
Speaker 2: team they lost the Super Bowl to last year. They

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01:26:12,320 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 2: wanted to beat the Chiefs. It was evident that it

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Speaker 2: meant something to them. And sometimes it's only human nature

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01:26:18,280 --> 01:26:20,280
Speaker 2: to have a let down the following week where you're

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01:26:20,280 --> 01:26:22,200
Speaker 2: playing against a team where there isn't any of that

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01:26:22,280 --> 01:26:26,280
Speaker 2: stuff packed into the game. Personally, Jack, I hope you're right.

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01:26:26,840 --> 01:26:27,920
Speaker 2: I hope they don't come out.

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01:26:27,840 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: For maybe you can't count on that.

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01:26:30,840 --> 01:26:32,760
Speaker 2: No, you can't count on it, but I'll take it.

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01:26:32,760 --> 01:26:34,800
Speaker 1: I want to do it. Yeah, you can't count on that.

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01:26:34,920 --> 01:26:36,320
Speaker 1: You can't tell me those guys are going to come out.

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01:26:36,320 --> 01:26:38,120
Speaker 1: They're not mentally ready to play. They've been to the

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl and they're eight and one and they're gonna

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01:26:39,840 --> 01:26:41,559
Speaker 1: be nine, nine and one. Are they're going to come

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01:26:41,560 --> 01:26:43,000
Speaker 1: out of there? You know, you got to think they're

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01:26:43,000 --> 01:26:44,840
Speaker 1: going to come out of there with blowing smoke out

1614
01:26:44,880 --> 01:26:49,760
Speaker 1: their nose. So you know that's that's fine, And you're

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01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:52,760
Speaker 1: right that the wedge the tush pushed. Everybody's calling it.

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01:26:53,560 --> 01:26:55,240
Speaker 1: There's a lot of smart guys on the other side

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01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:59,680
Speaker 1: of the ball as well. My thought in defending the

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01:26:59,720 --> 01:27:03,679
Speaker 1: tush push would be particularly on a fourth and two

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01:27:03,760 --> 01:27:05,679
Speaker 1: where they're going to try and go for a little longer.

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01:27:06,880 --> 01:27:08,760
Speaker 1: I would have you know, obviously, you line up your

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01:27:08,800 --> 01:27:11,960
Speaker 1: big bodies if you can up inside, and I think

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01:27:12,000 --> 01:27:15,000
Speaker 1: you try and get that momentum going sideways. You you

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01:27:15,080 --> 01:27:17,080
Speaker 1: come off the balls and push them off to the

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01:27:17,120 --> 01:27:19,519
Speaker 1: side so that you know they'll come off and you

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01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:22,040
Speaker 1: just hit them broadside, hit him broadside and try and

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01:27:22,040 --> 01:27:27,040
Speaker 1: get him going sideways rather than straightforward. That's the key

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01:27:27,320 --> 01:27:30,040
Speaker 1: I think to getting it stopped on a you know,

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01:27:30,080 --> 01:27:33,480
Speaker 1: a little longer push. If you can get him going sideways,

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01:27:35,760 --> 01:27:38,959
Speaker 1: maybe that would work. But it's it's a really effective

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01:27:39,000 --> 01:27:40,599
Speaker 1: play and and they get it done.

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01:27:41,160 --> 01:27:43,200
Speaker 2: Break time for us. Steve and I close things up

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01:27:43,200 --> 01:27:44,960
Speaker 2: for the week next here on one Bill's Live, stay

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Speaker 2: tuned Vision to Victory presented by Adwall eye Care, the

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01:28:05,920 --> 01:28:10,400
Speaker 2: official eye care provider of the Buffalo Bills. I think

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01:28:10,400 --> 01:28:12,080
Speaker 2: it's a game that's got to be one at the

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01:28:12,080 --> 01:28:14,439
Speaker 2: line of scrimmage. Here we hear Sean McDermott talk about

1637
01:28:14,439 --> 01:28:17,600
Speaker 2: it all the time, but knowing that the offensive and

1638
01:28:17,640 --> 01:28:21,760
Speaker 2: defensive line of the Eagles are probably top three on

1639
01:28:21,880 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 2: both sides of the ball, you gotta win there. And

1640
01:28:25,800 --> 01:28:27,559
Speaker 2: you don't even have to win all of them, but

1641
01:28:28,000 --> 01:28:30,480
Speaker 2: if you can at least have it be a stalemate

1642
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:35,360
Speaker 2: or maybe win five more snaps than they do, it

1643
01:28:35,400 --> 01:28:37,479
Speaker 2: could be the difference in the game. You really got

1644
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:38,960
Speaker 2: to bring it this week and win it the line

1645
01:28:39,000 --> 01:28:41,080
Speaker 2: of scrimmage, otherwise you're not beating this team.

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01:28:41,200 --> 01:28:41,280
Speaker 5: No.

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Speaker 1: And I think Josh you got to make some plays

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01:28:43,520 --> 01:28:45,840
Speaker 1: with his arm and his legs. He's gonna have to

1649
01:28:45,840 --> 01:28:49,760
Speaker 1: do some some of those Joshi things to win this game.

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01:28:50,240 --> 01:28:52,680
Speaker 1: Is a really good roster, he's got to do those

1651
01:28:52,720 --> 01:28:55,960
Speaker 1: Joshi things. He's got to He's got this a really

1652
01:28:56,000 --> 01:28:58,400
Speaker 1: good roster in Philly, and they're gonna be at home.

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01:28:59,439 --> 01:29:01,799
Speaker 1: They're riding high. They're nine and one on the season.

1654
01:29:02,479 --> 01:29:06,320
Speaker 1: Uh and for good reason. So you've gotta you gotta

1655
01:29:06,320 --> 01:29:08,160
Speaker 1: be on it. No question. This is a good This

1656
01:29:08,240 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 1: is a team the Bills. The Bills could win. If

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01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:13,080
Speaker 1: the Bills play their best, they will win. But if

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01:29:13,080 --> 01:29:14,800
Speaker 1: the Eagles can get them off their game in any way,

1659
01:29:14,800 --> 01:29:16,600
Speaker 1: shape or form, that's how close he should be. It

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01:29:16,680 --> 01:29:18,639
Speaker 1: could be, so give them some credit.

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01:29:18,640 --> 01:29:20,920
Speaker 2: They've got to keep the thing within striking distance and

1662
01:29:20,920 --> 01:29:23,840
Speaker 2: then hopefully make some special happen down the stretch. That's

1663
01:29:23,880 --> 01:29:26,040
Speaker 2: it for Steve and I today. Have a great Thanksgiving

1664
01:29:26,080 --> 01:29:29,040
Speaker 2: weekend everybody. We'll be back on Monday to talk about

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01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,200
Speaker 2: this Bills Eagle game. We'll see at New