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Speaker 1: Welcome to Unexplained Extra with me Richard McClane Smith, where

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Speaker 1: for the weeks in between episodes we look at stories

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Speaker 1: it into the previous show. Last week's episode of View

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Speaker 1: from a Hill took a look at the haunting tale

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Speaker 1: of the infamous Coonian ghost House in Ireland. As was

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Speaker 1: Sean Leslie, who wrote about the Coonyan Haunting in his

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Speaker 1: nineteen fifty six book Ghost Stories, did himself grow up

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Speaker 1: in a haunted house. Castle Leslie and the surrounding estate,

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Speaker 1: been owned by the Leslie family since the sixteen sixties,

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Speaker 1: although the current castle was built in eighteen seventy. Now

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Speaker 1: When Sean Leslie's mother, Leone, was approaching the end of

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Speaker 1: it is said that her nurse witnessed her conversing with

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Speaker 1: could be claimed that Leoni hadn't seen a ghost at all,

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Speaker 1: but instead experienced what is referred to as a crisis apparition,

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Speaker 1: belief can occur in a moment of extreme stress. This

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Speaker 1: has claimed to have taken place just over a decade later.

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Speaker 1: Early one morning, aboard a large steamship out somewhere off

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Speaker 1: Slash Unexplained Podcast. Elsie McKay was born in eighteen ninety three,

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Speaker 1: Worried that her father might try to stop her, Elsie

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Speaker 1: that is how the story was told by writer John G.

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Speaker 1: Though some have sought to excuse the inconsistency that no

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