WEBVTT - EP 117: Geto Boys Chronicles 0:00:00.800 --> 0:00:05.760 When I wrote, y'all all across the USC conton match 0:00:06.360 --> 0:00:10.080 Bank to l A, come on the California, come around 0:00:10.080 --> 0:00:13.920 the valley. We represent that Kelly County. So if you're 0:00:13.960 --> 0:00:16.480 keeping it real on your side of your town, you 0:00:16.600 --> 0:00:21.880 tune into Gangster Chronicles, Gangs the Goals. He gonna tell 0:00:21.960 --> 0:00:25.160 you how we go. If I lie my nose a 0:00:25.280 --> 0:00:27.400 girl like Pinocchio, We're gonna tell you to choose and 0:00:27.480 --> 0:00:31.200 nothing but the truth, Gangs, the Chronic Goals. This is 0:00:31.200 --> 0:00:35.080 not your average show. You're now tuned into the real 0:00:35.960 --> 0:00:41.720 mc adick, James and Bix Stairs the Streets. Hello, we 0:00:45.920 --> 0:00:48.519 like to welcome ever we want to another episode against 0:00:48.520 --> 0:00:51.680 the Chronicles podcast with my homeboys. Of course, Big Ja 0:00:52.640 --> 0:00:56.040 and we have some legends in the building night Man. 0:00:56.120 --> 0:00:59.680 We got Brag Jordan, Nick cave S garfacing Mr Woollie Dan. 0:01:00.040 --> 0:01:07.360 What's cred? Hey? You know too blessed to be stressed? Right? Family? 0:01:07.480 --> 0:01:09.479 Ship You ever heard that? You ever heard that song 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:12.400 about it? About the comment wasn't easy like something on it? 0:01:13.240 --> 0:01:21.200 That's right? Yeah, she man. You know there's so many 0:01:21.280 --> 0:01:23.640 ways we can start with Yo, man, you' all don't done. 0:01:23.800 --> 0:01:26.320 Legendary ship Man and you're really just like some of 0:01:26.360 --> 0:01:30.160 the founding You're really like the Founding fathers kind of 0:01:30.240 --> 0:01:32.559 like you know, you're right up there with the Founding 0:01:32.640 --> 0:01:37.880 fathers in East. I wouldn't think. I wouldn't take credit 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:41.000 for that. It was what it was. It wasn't no 0:01:41.720 --> 0:01:44.200 pretend those ship. It was like some real gangster ship, 0:01:44.360 --> 0:01:47.280 like for real, real I could beat that nigked you 0:01:47.360 --> 0:01:50.280 know what I'm saying. I wouldn't actually take credit for it. 0:01:50.520 --> 0:01:54.120 I wouldn't take credit for being like the founders of 0:01:54.160 --> 0:01:58.520 that gangster ship. Man, But we did come in at 0:01:58.560 --> 0:02:01.160 a time where you know, wasn't very much real ship 0:02:01.280 --> 0:02:05.760 being being spent, so you know it was it was 0:02:06.920 --> 0:02:11.600 n W a ice team, uh eight. He did a 0:02:11.639 --> 0:02:14.519 record together back in the gap and cute. You know 0:02:14.600 --> 0:02:16.720 what I'm saying that there was the fathers to us, 0:02:17.840 --> 0:02:20.840 the forefathers of that gangster ship. Man, that that mothercker 0:02:20.960 --> 0:02:23.280 know what you just say, you know, whatever needed to 0:02:23.400 --> 0:02:27.600 be said, and that's what we did, you know, Yeah 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:30.639 for sure. But you know y'all coming out of Houston, Texas, man, 0:02:30.720 --> 0:02:33.959 y'all brought a different angle to it. Man. When I 0:02:34.080 --> 0:02:40.799 first heard y'all, motherfucker's I was like God damn motherfucker's 0:02:40.800 --> 0:02:43.800 in Texas. Yeah, you know what it was. It was like, um, 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:48.639 there was a lot of bottle up things, right. You know, 0:02:48.960 --> 0:02:53.760 it's like every every ghetto, it don't matter where you live, 0:02:53.919 --> 0:02:57.720 that you're going through going through a lot of the 0:02:57.800 --> 0:03:01.440 same issues. You're going through instant fish living, You're going 0:03:01.520 --> 0:03:06.560 through insufficient love, insufficient uh. You know, there's a lot 0:03:06.639 --> 0:03:12.959 of insufficient uh food, you know, insufficient money, you know, 0:03:13.160 --> 0:03:16.799 just insufficient living. And that right there alone, you know, 0:03:17.240 --> 0:03:20.480 it is enough to make you lose your damn mind. 0:03:20.560 --> 0:03:24.880 And if you lose your mind, always gonna crystallize your 0:03:24.960 --> 0:03:27.560 mind and your way of thinking, and it's gonna make 0:03:27.600 --> 0:03:30.919 you get out there and go go even harder. That's why, 0:03:31.880 --> 0:03:35.960 like most of your your great basketball players and football players, 0:03:36.320 --> 0:03:40.320 the dudes come from the hood, because you know they 0:03:40.560 --> 0:03:44.640 the hood got them ready for the NFL before they 0:03:44.720 --> 0:03:47.840 even got to college to play ball or whatever. Man 0:03:47.920 --> 0:03:49.920 you have, you remember, you have to play hotball, and 0:03:49.960 --> 0:03:53.240 she didn't run through the whole damn team exactly. You 0:03:53.280 --> 0:03:56.160 got you gotta play murder ball in the damn street 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.400 on the crime creeping ship and get ready and ship 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:01.160 for ship like that man. You remember that man, We 0:04:02.680 --> 0:04:06.520 used to play football in the councrete before school started, 0:04:08.040 --> 0:04:11.040 in the parking lot, playing football on the country. So 0:04:11.160 --> 0:04:14.720 you take a dude like that and you put him 0:04:15.040 --> 0:04:18.080 in the same arena, on the same field or the 0:04:18.200 --> 0:04:22.280 same court as some dude who basically been sped with 0:04:22.400 --> 0:04:24.240 to still a spoon, and what kind of results you 0:04:24.320 --> 0:04:26.400 think you're gonna get. He gonna he donna look like 0:04:26.480 --> 0:04:30.720 a freaking nature to that dude, because that that dude 0:04:30.760 --> 0:04:34.840 don't understand that not only do we have his his 0:04:35.000 --> 0:04:40.320 own uh personal aspirations and whatever, but he's also he 0:04:40.480 --> 0:04:44.200 has this because he's thinking, man, I can actually break 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:47.800 the generational chris with my talent. I can lift my 0:04:47.920 --> 0:04:50.600 whole family up out the hood with my talent, I 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:53.880 can take my neighborhood and put my neighborhood on the 0:04:53.960 --> 0:04:56.360 back and taking many of these cats that I grew 0:04:56.480 --> 0:04:59.680 up with along for the ride. That's a lot of 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.880 rish possibility we're going in in these situations, whether where 0:05:02.880 --> 0:05:06.800 they be music or sports or whatever. You know, with 0:05:06.920 --> 0:05:09.400 the idea that man, we've got a lot of people 0:05:09.440 --> 0:05:12.080 to feed, you know, and we like and our we 0:05:12.240 --> 0:05:15.680 were teenagers and twenty something years old with these type 0:05:15.720 --> 0:05:19.600 of responsibilities and at least, you know, having these type 0:05:19.640 --> 0:05:24.320 of thoughts. But we feel like we're obligated, you know, 0:05:24.600 --> 0:05:29.080 to to look after everybody or and you know, you 0:05:29.200 --> 0:05:31.719 talked about the community factor. I saw that you guys 0:05:31.800 --> 0:05:35.080 that both ran for city council. Do you you know 0:05:35.279 --> 0:05:37.280 one of the things we always talked about on this show. 0:05:37.400 --> 0:05:39.359 I think there's a need for that. And I always 0:05:39.440 --> 0:05:42.560 wonder why folks that's not from the community are the 0:05:42.680 --> 0:05:44.480 ones up there at the top. They know what's going 0:05:44.560 --> 0:05:47.360 on in the community, they know everyone in the community. Yeah, 0:05:47.400 --> 0:05:49.320 you know, and I'm talking about not just a council 0:05:49.400 --> 0:05:52.080 member from the city councilman, the mayor, of the police. 0:05:52.400 --> 0:05:55.200 Those should be people from the actual community. A big 0:05:55.279 --> 0:05:57.240 part of it, that's a great question. A big part 0:05:57.279 --> 0:06:01.000 of it is that the we live in a society 0:06:01.120 --> 0:06:03.680 with people like to remind you of your past, and 0:06:03.760 --> 0:06:06.440 if you have a past where you may have you know, 0:06:07.120 --> 0:06:09.480 got into a little trouble or whatever. But we know 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.640 politics is a dirty game and they're gonna use that 0:06:11.760 --> 0:06:14.920 past against you. And another thing is that we don't 0:06:14.960 --> 0:06:17.760 want to be seen as hypocriticals, like what do you 0:06:17.800 --> 0:06:19.280 mean you start up there telling people to do the 0:06:19.400 --> 0:06:21.680 right thing, you didn't always do the right thing. And 0:06:22.320 --> 0:06:24.920 we we we we we get caught up in that 0:06:25.760 --> 0:06:28.119 and and and those type of moments, and were listening 0:06:28.160 --> 0:06:31.080 to people who don't want to really see our communities, 0:06:32.000 --> 0:06:35.160 uh involved. And a lot of these people look like us, 0:06:36.000 --> 0:06:38.680 but we don't see it because we just see color. 0:06:39.440 --> 0:06:42.920 But a lot of times it's it's the people before. 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:45.200 Before we can get to the white gate keepers, you 0:06:45.320 --> 0:06:48.080 gotta get past the black gate keep and a lot 0:06:48.200 --> 0:06:51.520 of the black gate keepers would be the main rue 0:06:51.720 --> 0:06:55.800 before your pass in your face. They see you trying 0:06:55.839 --> 0:07:00.400 to better yourself. You're talking about, uh, you know about 0:07:00.480 --> 0:07:03.240 cleaning up the community. You're talking about, Hey, don't feel good? 0:07:03.839 --> 0:07:06.800 People like that? Don't we doing dribe? Don't be sitting 0:07:06.800 --> 0:07:09.080 with you in your head you start talking like that. 0:07:09.440 --> 0:07:11.840 You know what about when we did there? So what 0:07:11.960 --> 0:07:15.240 about when you did that? And that right there is 0:07:15.360 --> 0:07:19.040 what you did. A lot of the from sharing that 0:07:19.200 --> 0:07:22.960 information when you start when when when you're running for 0:07:23.080 --> 0:07:25.440 public office. So here's the reason why I have for 0:07:25.520 --> 0:07:28.480 public golfice. I wanted to make a difference in the 0:07:28.600 --> 0:07:31.680 community that I was born and raised in Okay. You 0:07:31.840 --> 0:07:34.480 you you look at you you you. I've been all 0:07:34.560 --> 0:07:37.080 over the world, bro, and when I come back to 0:07:37.160 --> 0:07:39.320 the neighborhood that I was draught up, and she will 0:07:39.360 --> 0:07:42.160 look the same, like we're not progress and we gotta 0:07:42.680 --> 0:07:46.360 we gotta, we gotta, we gotta a decent a decent mayor, 0:07:47.040 --> 0:07:50.440 and and and and and he's not hearing what we 0:07:50.560 --> 0:07:52.560 need to move forward, you know what I mean? Like like, 0:07:52.680 --> 0:07:56.280 Houston is the fourth largest city in the country, right, 0:07:57.040 --> 0:07:59.520 and and and and yet and and and and two 0:07:59.560 --> 0:08:01.720 of the big entertainers in the world come from here, 0:08:02.240 --> 0:08:07.360 Travis Scott and Beyonce. Right, but we don't have we 0:08:07.560 --> 0:08:10.280 we we we don't have We're not set up for entertainment. 0:08:10.640 --> 0:08:12.360 And we should have been set up for this ship, y'all. 0:08:12.400 --> 0:08:14.480 We should have been shooting movies here and should have 0:08:14.520 --> 0:08:18.200 been a tax given to these people man that shoot 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:20.000 loris so they come down here and spend some of 0:08:20.080 --> 0:08:23.320 that money. And and and answer our economy too. You 0:08:23.400 --> 0:08:25.760 feel me? You know you need forward thinkers in that 0:08:25.960 --> 0:08:28.520 office downtown. Man, as long as you've got these old 0:08:28.600 --> 0:08:31.520 ass gatekeepers, Like really was saying, you got these old 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:35.000 ass black gatekeepers down here that's praid to take another 0:08:35.040 --> 0:08:37.719 step in love forward. You know they play that that 0:08:37.880 --> 0:08:41.240 go along and get along, go along, get along game shout. 0:08:41.240 --> 0:08:43.800 I'm not for that ship. I'm for the advancement and 0:08:43.840 --> 0:08:46.560 the empowerment of my people. Man. And that's probably why 0:08:46.600 --> 0:08:49.040 they didn't want to suk with me, because they knew 0:08:49.040 --> 0:08:51.040 I would have been real serious on that, man, and 0:08:51.600 --> 0:08:55.000 about getting some ship in our community for our youngsters. Man, 0:08:55.120 --> 0:08:59.679 some four youngsters to do. Our youth ain't gonna go 0:08:59.679 --> 0:09:02.720 to out man, They're not that they don't have the money. 0:09:02.760 --> 0:09:04.480 That kind of ain't set up. Our kids are going 0:09:04.520 --> 0:09:06.679 to college, so why not give them some money to 0:09:07.160 --> 0:09:09.600 do trade ship. I can't tell you to stop selling 0:09:09.679 --> 0:09:13.400 dope or breakular people ship without operating an alternative it. 0:09:13.440 --> 0:09:16.959 See what I'm saying, All that they're doing that like 0:09:17.120 --> 0:09:19.800 like we're still stuck in the standstill now. And the 0:09:19.880 --> 0:09:23.320 councilwoman that they put in place, you know, I don't 0:09:23.360 --> 0:09:25.840 I don't see nothing. I don't. I don't see nobody 0:09:25.960 --> 0:09:30.080 going to trade school. I still see illegal dumping. I don't. 0:09:30.280 --> 0:09:32.880 I don't see nothing put in place for us. You know, 0:09:33.040 --> 0:09:35.160 everybody in there trying to get them some money but 0:09:35.280 --> 0:09:37.760 we're cool men. We were cool. We already got some money. 0:09:38.240 --> 0:09:40.760 So we want to see all we want our neighborhoods 0:09:40.800 --> 0:09:43.200 and bands in a sense, you know what I mean. 0:09:43.320 --> 0:09:46.360 I want to see my neighborhood move forward and get 0:09:46.400 --> 0:09:47.959 out of this ship, get out of the swamp that 0:09:48.000 --> 0:09:50.880 they're putting us in constantly. Man, why is the money 0:09:51.000 --> 0:09:55.719 not trickling down into our neighborhood? That fucking pisses me off? 0:09:59.120 --> 0:10:02.559 All right, there's too many people lining their pockets and 0:10:02.600 --> 0:10:05.880 me and James talking about it all the time. You know, 0:10:06.120 --> 0:10:08.400 you brought up a deep thing. You brought up trade school. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:11.080 A lot of people talk about college, and I'm fourth college. 0:10:11.120 --> 0:10:13.440 I got a son who played college football. He's at 0:10:13.559 --> 0:10:16.600 USC right now. You starting the corner um and I'm 0:10:16.640 --> 0:10:20.120 all for college. But that's not for everybody. Every kid 0:10:20.440 --> 0:10:22.679 is not Every kid is out there's not meant to 0:10:22.760 --> 0:10:26.480 go before your institution. They just don't have anything like that. 0:10:26.679 --> 0:10:29.760 But they do have trade school alternatives. You've got kids 0:10:29.800 --> 0:10:32.240 out here to like to fix cars, like the Bill 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:36.360 Ship is good with their hands. But those kids, imagine this, 0:10:36.920 --> 0:10:43.120 imagine this. Imagine you're leaving out of high school with 0:10:43.320 --> 0:10:47.079 a certificate man, that way, you are already ready. So 0:10:47.240 --> 0:10:49.720 you're going working, and you're going work in these places, 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:52.320 and you're going and being will to do. You're well 0:10:52.559 --> 0:10:56.160 and uh in the ocean, you know what I mean? 0:10:56.640 --> 0:11:00.200 Like I would say, with this place called the uh 0:11:00.320 --> 0:11:06.839 the god damn, they don't kill me too, man. A 0:11:06.960 --> 0:11:14.080 long shoreman I was yeah, yeah. The long shoreman was like, yeah, man, 0:11:14.160 --> 0:11:18.400 we want to back you man. And just let everybody 0:11:18.559 --> 0:11:21.199 know that if they come out here, we're gonna pay 0:11:21.240 --> 0:11:23.120 for them to learn how to do this ship. And 0:11:23.240 --> 0:11:26.440 we're gonna give two dollars a year, you know, depending 0:11:26.440 --> 0:11:28.960 on how long they want to be. But I'm just saying, 0:11:29.000 --> 0:11:31.640 you know that my grandfather was a master plumber. Okay, 0:11:32.160 --> 0:11:35.760 So I'm a strong, strong, strong advocate portrayed. Bro, I'm 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:42.319 a strong advocate. Portray you have happen happened. I was 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:44.319 talking to my step pops the other day and he 0:11:44.480 --> 0:11:46.480 was talking about, you know, he owned two trucks, He 0:11:46.559 --> 0:11:49.800 owned two semis, He drove across country, always was the 0:11:49.840 --> 0:11:53.160 own operator. He told me that they call him every 0:11:53.280 --> 0:11:56.199 day and he's seven's two years old. That means that 0:11:56.320 --> 0:11:58.599 these young dudes ain't stepping up. They either don't know 0:11:58.679 --> 0:12:01.240 about it or don't half the way in and nothing 0:12:01.400 --> 0:12:04.240 he made. Do you blame that? Do you blame that 0:12:04.360 --> 0:12:11.559 on us being uneducated? Though probably be uneducated, education educating. No, no, 0:12:12.360 --> 0:12:15.920 we can't say undereducated. We can't say we can say 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:19.319 not knowing, you know, like like like, ain't nobody just 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:21.920 stepped out and say, hey, look you yeah, we got 0:12:22.000 --> 0:12:24.280 a whole. I got I got three trucks out here. Man, 0:12:24.320 --> 0:12:26.000 all you need to see the all and come get in. 0:12:26.280 --> 0:12:28.679 I'll need to card, come get in. You know you 0:12:28.760 --> 0:12:31.480 want to work off shore? Come on, man, like we 0:12:31.640 --> 0:12:34.640 worked with our hands, y'all. You know what I mean? 0:12:34.840 --> 0:12:37.079 Like like I don't like the college institution and I 0:12:37.160 --> 0:12:39.199 with you on that. Man, Okay, college, want to go 0:12:39.240 --> 0:12:41.400 to college? Call us to go to college. Man, go 0:12:41.559 --> 0:12:43.520 be in the county, Go be a doctor, Go be 0:12:43.600 --> 0:12:45.120 an in Turney, whatever the funk you want to be. 0:12:45.480 --> 0:12:47.880 But for those who grew up with their grandparents, I 0:12:47.960 --> 0:12:50.839 grew up in the house, in the household, and that 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:53.559 the indcome that the income was, you know, forty, I'll 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.679 get to do that. You don't have that kind of 0:12:55.720 --> 0:12:58.400 money to go to college. Bro, it's any grand to 0:12:58.440 --> 0:13:03.439 go to college. Well, here's here's my standing with you know, 0:13:03.600 --> 0:13:06.760 my you know my my my my daughter just uh 0:13:08.040 --> 0:13:13.360 passed the boss and she was with now now she 0:13:13.440 --> 0:13:18.360 graduated from Fordam. Uh. But my son and she's in 0:13:18.440 --> 0:13:21.560 New York. My son hasn't business school in London, right, 0:13:22.280 --> 0:13:24.440 So my son and daughter, you know, we sent them 0:13:24.480 --> 0:13:29.160 to college because you know, not because they needed that, 0:13:29.679 --> 0:13:32.719 but we wanted them to have options. They had other 0:13:32.840 --> 0:13:35.120 dreams and aspirations. I ain't never wanted my kid to 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.319 do what I do or try to pressure them to 0:13:37.360 --> 0:13:40.800 do something. Life is about access and options. If you 0:13:40.880 --> 0:13:45.160 think about your your own life, anytime you had access 0:13:45.200 --> 0:13:47.040 and you and options, you you always seem to be 0:13:47.080 --> 0:13:50.720 a little happy, right when you have access and options. 0:13:51.240 --> 0:13:54.599 So I sent my kids to those schools to go 0:13:54.760 --> 0:13:57.120 get the information and come back with it and then 0:13:57.280 --> 0:13:59.480 use it against it. That's what I sent mine and 0:14:00.280 --> 0:14:04.559 to go infantcrate, go get the information and but but 0:14:05.160 --> 0:14:07.160 they got the option. If they want to use that, 0:14:07.320 --> 0:14:09.080 you can. If you want to go work for somebody, 0:14:09.160 --> 0:14:12.079 that's fine. But I did not send my kids to 0:14:12.280 --> 0:14:15.760 college with with the with the uh with the idea 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:20.720 of them going to big somebody else for a job big, 0:14:20.800 --> 0:14:22.760 and it's somebody that we know that don't like us 0:14:22.840 --> 0:14:25.840 for a job. That's we gotta make sure that we 0:14:25.960 --> 0:14:28.080 get over that notion when we do. If we do 0:14:28.240 --> 0:14:30.920 so our kids to college, we gotta keep that in mind. 0:14:31.000 --> 0:14:33.320 That we can't be sending our kids to school and 0:14:33.440 --> 0:14:36.960 expecting them to uh to go do all the right 0:14:37.040 --> 0:14:39.240 things but they're supposed to do, get that degree and 0:14:39.280 --> 0:14:41.880 then go big. These same people that we complain about 0:14:41.920 --> 0:14:45.080 every single day that are discriminated against us, hating us 0:14:45.600 --> 0:14:49.120 and hating on us, and and trying and trying to suppress, 0:14:49.520 --> 0:14:54.280 you know, our movement. Uh, And we can't be relying 0:14:54.400 --> 0:14:57.480 on them to to give us a job, or to 0:14:57.600 --> 0:15:00.840 give us a promotion, or to help lot in life. 0:15:00.960 --> 0:15:06.040 You can't do that. We gotta start building creating jobs 0:15:06.360 --> 0:15:10.240 before our kids enter the job market. That way they 0:15:10.320 --> 0:15:13.440 don't have to go big and somebody else for a job. Mama, 0:15:14.160 --> 0:15:16.360 Mama and dad. I already took care of that. We 0:15:16.520 --> 0:15:18.360 got that cover. Because if you want to come in 0:15:18.840 --> 0:15:21.040 family business, you can't. But if you want to go 0:15:21.160 --> 0:15:23.560 do your own thing, you got that option. So we 0:15:23.640 --> 0:15:27.440 gotta start with the first option. Number one should always 0:15:27.520 --> 0:15:31.520 be the family business exactly. And I'm a strong proponent 0:15:31.560 --> 0:15:34.800 of that because the thing is, I know some people 0:15:34.880 --> 0:15:37.640 that's doing our right life right, but everybody, you know, 0:15:37.920 --> 0:15:42.560 this really rich that really got money, they work for themselves. Yeah, 0:15:42.920 --> 0:15:45.600 I don't know, No, I don't know, no, I don't 0:15:45.600 --> 0:15:47.880 know no bigging there is to work for somebody. I 0:15:47.920 --> 0:15:49.920 don't know no millionaires to work for somebody. And I'm 0:15:49.920 --> 0:15:51.560 pretty sure it's a few of them out there, but 0:15:51.600 --> 0:15:54.640 they're few and far between them. Yeah, And if they 0:15:54.680 --> 0:15:57.960 do somebody that they're they're at the CEO, they're the CEOs, 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:00.880 the CEO orders, you know, they're at the time they're 0:16:00.880 --> 0:16:03.800 putting all of the putting the Curson screens, they're calling 0:16:03.840 --> 0:16:08.240 all the shots. They're right their own check basically exactly, 0:16:08.440 --> 0:16:10.680 because I know James talked about it a couple of 0:16:10.760 --> 0:16:14.360 times of actually, you know, building the trade school, like 0:16:14.400 --> 0:16:17.080 you know, you've got universities building a trade school for 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:19.960 guys that's probably like just fresh out of the twelfth grade, 0:16:20.520 --> 0:16:22.120 you know, fresh out of high school, who don't have 0:16:22.200 --> 0:16:24.960 no options where they can go learn different trades out there, 0:16:24.960 --> 0:16:26.840 because they are all ways to make money out there. 0:16:26.880 --> 0:16:29.440 Besides stand on the corner because the hustlers did m 0:16:30.160 --> 0:16:32.200 you know, standing on those blockers did and everything, And 0:16:32.560 --> 0:16:36.080 I blame it two wheel. What happened to the then 0:16:36.200 --> 0:16:37.880 they used to teach then they used to do that 0:16:37.960 --> 0:16:40.480 in high school and offer that you the wood shopping 0:16:40.480 --> 0:16:45.680 and machine shopping building CAUs that school. Yeah, So so 0:16:45.880 --> 0:16:50.000 what happened where they just started snatching those programs. Here's 0:16:50.040 --> 0:16:54.680 what happened. They said back, and they said, these negroes 0:16:55.280 --> 0:16:59.240 don't need us. They got they got trades. They're not 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.560 coming they get the jobs for us. They're starting their 0:17:02.600 --> 0:17:06.320 own businesses. They're being self deficient and independent. So what 0:17:06.480 --> 0:17:09.600 do we have to do. We're gonna squeeze them. So so, 0:17:09.760 --> 0:17:11.879 since we can't squeeze them out of the job market, 0:17:11.880 --> 0:17:14.040 they're not coming for us for the job. We can't 0:17:14.040 --> 0:17:16.600 squeeze them out of the job market. What we'll do 0:17:17.200 --> 0:17:19.680 is we'll just put the hammer down on them and 0:17:20.520 --> 0:17:24.800 ride on them. Uh. Set these traps out here, whether 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:28.080 it be the dope track or whether it be some 0:17:28.240 --> 0:17:33.360 other kind of trap, open though some kind of weight. 0:17:33.720 --> 0:17:36.480 We bring them in. You know, maybe maybe the trapper 0:17:36.560 --> 0:17:39.880 is don't miss the the bease. Maybe maybe maybe the trappers. 0:17:40.080 --> 0:17:45.119 You know you are you you you uh? You know 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.680 you had a dispute in the neighborhood or whatever, and 0:17:47.840 --> 0:17:51.000 you you know, you slap somebody or put somebody down 0:17:51.040 --> 0:17:52.720 on the ground. They sink, you know, you gotta reck. 0:17:53.280 --> 0:17:57.159 So what I'm saying is that ultimately the ideas they 0:17:57.240 --> 0:18:00.320 want our bodies warm or cold, they'll take the wrong 0:18:01.040 --> 0:18:03.800 since they can't make no money with us with the trade. See, 0:18:03.840 --> 0:18:05.760 we can't make no money with us because we we 0:18:05.960 --> 0:18:08.200 we realized we can do our own things. When we 0:18:08.280 --> 0:18:10.920 got a trade, we don't need them. They say, well, 0:18:11.080 --> 0:18:13.400 well we got another way to get you. We'll get 0:18:13.440 --> 0:18:15.240 you before you ever even need it. You can even 0:18:15.400 --> 0:18:18.919 use that trade. Well, we'll set these path doc up 0:18:19.000 --> 0:18:21.919 for you that you on into it, take you over 0:18:22.000 --> 0:18:24.240 to the prison system, and we'll get your ask to 0:18:24.280 --> 0:18:26.960 go for free. Yeah, we get to you. We'll get 0:18:26.960 --> 0:18:29.280 you to use that trade, that experience, whatever, a little 0:18:29.280 --> 0:18:33.359 experience that you big game. We're trained you your trade. 0:18:33.359 --> 0:18:35.480 In fact, we're gonna take the trade out of the 0:18:35.560 --> 0:18:42.120 school and we're gonna put it in the prison. Yeah, 0:18:42.680 --> 0:18:45.240 we're not using the trade. So now you've got a trade. 0:18:46.080 --> 0:18:48.640 Now you gotta trade. But you make it five sense 0:18:48.720 --> 0:18:50.840 of a day. You know, you make a thirty seven 0:18:50.880 --> 0:18:53.080 sense a day. But you got you gotta trade. You 0:18:53.160 --> 0:18:55.120 can use it, but you're gonna use it with them. 0:18:56.040 --> 0:18:59.440 And that's the game. So that's why black meaning we 0:18:59.640 --> 0:19:04.560 have to go a boil and beyond to stay out 0:19:04.640 --> 0:19:07.560 of their way. We got to get out of their 0:19:07.720 --> 0:19:12.080 way by all means we we damn. They have got 0:19:12.160 --> 0:19:16.000 to be perfect citizens in this type of structure that 0:19:16.119 --> 0:19:20.080 we're living under, because the going for them is we 0:19:20.240 --> 0:19:23.600 are targeting they bring out by this cold or warm. 0:19:24.119 --> 0:19:26.880 They don't care about us. They hate us. They want 0:19:27.000 --> 0:19:29.679 us bid, they want us in the prison. They are 0:19:29.760 --> 0:19:33.320 are they are? They are they ruining us, start sharing around, 0:19:33.800 --> 0:19:37.600 not the warming. That's what they want up. They can 0:19:37.880 --> 0:19:41.119 either way and control us in any way. None of these. 0:19:41.640 --> 0:19:44.720 If you're jail, if you're a jail, you ain't no warrior. 0:19:46.040 --> 0:19:49.520 If you if you're dead, you ain't no warrior. And 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:52.600 if you run around here acting like women, you ain't 0:19:52.600 --> 0:19:57.360 no water. So hey, guys, So that's so that's that's 0:19:57.400 --> 0:19:59.960 why BT can run running that move, play that play 0:20:00.000 --> 0:20:03.560 if they played, because it's bigger than just oh I 0:20:03.680 --> 0:20:05.119 want to do what I want to do. I like 0:20:05.320 --> 0:20:07.680 this person, and this feels like me. Why can't we 0:20:07.840 --> 0:20:11.040 just show our affection? You know, they are trying to 0:20:11.960 --> 0:20:16.800 They are trying to destroy the black man in every 0:20:17.000 --> 0:20:20.479 single possible way. And and if they if if they 0:20:20.560 --> 0:20:23.639 can destroy the black man, if they can destroy the 0:20:23.680 --> 0:20:27.480 black man, they can destroy a black family, Oh for sure. 0:20:27.760 --> 0:20:30.200 And I always talk about that. I'm gonna tell you 0:20:30.359 --> 0:20:35.040 something weird. The welfare system has people are coming. It 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:37.120 is crypt our community because I'm gonna tell you, I'm 0:20:37.119 --> 0:20:40.320 embritly from Cleveland, Ohio. I'm gonna tell you the house 0:20:40.520 --> 0:20:44.040 the people I grew up with next door, the mama, 0:20:44.040 --> 0:20:46.760 and the mama was on welfare. Now I'm guessing who 0:20:46.760 --> 0:20:48.560 they are the same kids that I grew up with. 0:20:48.680 --> 0:20:51.600 Jarge Steve over here. They are on welfare and got kids. 0:20:51.680 --> 0:20:53.760 That's what they do. They get together full of money. 0:20:53.760 --> 0:20:55.920 And what are these white folks tell the people You 0:20:56.000 --> 0:20:57.800 can keep getting this money as long as you don't 0:20:57.840 --> 0:21:04.520 bring up in here, lay up with out here. But 0:21:04.680 --> 0:21:07.040 now that we know that, like hold on. But now 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:10.560 that we know that it's on us. See, I'm gonna 0:21:10.560 --> 0:21:13.159 tell you one thing that I you know, I do 0:21:13.359 --> 0:21:15.800 believe that all of us, as human beings, we have 0:21:15.880 --> 0:21:18.639 a right to complain about something. If something bothers you, 0:21:19.000 --> 0:21:21.520 you have a right to complain. But after you complain, 0:21:21.880 --> 0:21:24.560 do something. And there's too many of us that just 0:21:25.040 --> 0:21:30.080 just complain but don't do anything after we complain as men, 0:21:30.800 --> 0:21:34.760 as men, I think it's unmanly and and don't put 0:21:34.800 --> 0:21:39.080 any action behind it. I think it's unmanly, right, I think. 0:21:39.720 --> 0:21:42.200 I think it's unmanly. I think it's unmanly to not 0:21:42.440 --> 0:21:44.840 be a warrior, to not be a protector, to not 0:21:45.000 --> 0:21:47.560 be a provider. I think it's um I think it's 0:21:47.600 --> 0:21:50.400 unmanly to live upon a woman and expect a woman 0:21:50.440 --> 0:21:53.560 to take care of you. I think that's you know 0:21:53.680 --> 0:21:57.160 what I mean to do it. Let me say this, if, 0:21:57.320 --> 0:22:00.480 if if we allowed the system to tell continue to 0:22:00.640 --> 0:22:03.680 spoon feed us, they're gonna always be in the same 0:22:03.760 --> 0:22:07.320 condition that we're in. You know, father, you see what 0:22:07.359 --> 0:22:09.639 I'm saying, And you know we want we want we 0:22:09.680 --> 0:22:11.159 want the right to do this, We want the right 0:22:11.200 --> 0:22:12.639 to do that. Why then do we still have to 0:22:12.680 --> 0:22:14.359 ask for and I could do some ship well, this 0:22:14.400 --> 0:22:18.280 should already be granted anyway. Why do are we still, 0:22:18.400 --> 0:22:21.680 you know, uh, givling and dabbling with this voting bill, 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:24.000 and said, why are we still fighting for the right 0:22:24.080 --> 0:22:25.760 to vote? You know why every you know, a few 0:22:25.880 --> 0:22:28.440 years so you know, it comes back and we gotta 0:22:28.480 --> 0:22:30.359 ask for the right to vote. To you, you feel 0:22:30.640 --> 0:22:33.560 like this ship is getting sucked up, y'all. We gotta 0:22:33.560 --> 0:22:37.680 put what they gotta keep it that way to keep 0:22:37.840 --> 0:22:41.320 us in. Please if if they can't keep us in, 0:22:41.400 --> 0:22:45.840 please because they're already afraid that we're rowing in this 0:22:46.040 --> 0:22:50.760 country and black people shouldn't be where they are. McConnell, 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:55.680 Mr McConnell is the biggest piece of ship in the Senate, y'all. 0:22:56.080 --> 0:22:58.119 I don't know if y'all pay attention to politics, but 0:22:58.200 --> 0:23:01.200 he's the be he's the biggest piece of ship, and 0:23:02.480 --> 0:23:07.160 he's the biggest piece in the Senate. Yeah, for sure, 0:23:07.480 --> 0:23:09.639 it's a whole bunch of you. He might be the 0:23:09.680 --> 0:23:12.280 biggest piece of ship. But all that man, those yeah, 0:23:12.320 --> 0:23:14.520 all of them meals. Man, ain't ain't none of them good. 0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:18.120 It's like, you know, one one thing about the day 0:23:18.119 --> 0:23:20.240 about it. You know, they keep getting on Trump about 0:23:20.320 --> 0:23:23.720 this tech stuff, right, and I thought about the taxation 0:23:23.800 --> 0:23:26.160 in itself is as it should be against the law. 0:23:26.400 --> 0:23:30.439 It's horrible. You know when when when we first when 0:23:30.880 --> 0:23:32.840 when they came first came over here, you know, to 0:23:32.880 --> 0:23:35.639 America whatever and settled it. Right, wasn't that what they 0:23:35.760 --> 0:23:37.760 left England for them, trying to press them with the 0:23:37.800 --> 0:23:39.680 money and stuff. Then they turned around in the eight 0:23:39.920 --> 0:23:42.520 hundreds and did the same thing again because it's the 0:23:42.560 --> 0:23:44.360 time of war. You an't supposed to take taxes when 0:23:44.359 --> 0:23:46.560 it's time of war. That was the thing to support 0:23:46.640 --> 0:23:48.960 the war. But they kept it going because America has 0:23:49.040 --> 0:23:52.440 managed to keep herself in the state of war since then, 0:23:53.000 --> 0:23:55.239 around the world we somewhere fightings, and it allows them 0:23:55.280 --> 0:23:58.760 to keep taking all money. You think about it, I'm 0:23:58.880 --> 0:24:01.040 asking I'm gonna ask you all all this will how 0:24:01.160 --> 0:24:03.240 much have you paid them to the social Security system? 0:24:05.680 --> 0:24:09.920 I'll keep m brand how much have you played in 0:24:09.960 --> 0:24:13.600 the Social Security system? Millions and millions of dollars? Bro? 0:24:13.840 --> 0:24:16.800 You know, they take that money, they take that tax 0:24:16.920 --> 0:24:18.919 money that they get from you, and they and they 0:24:19.000 --> 0:24:23.360 advanced some of that money to your social security exactly. Man, 0:24:24.480 --> 0:24:28.680 over time, every time I get paid, they it's something 0:24:28.760 --> 0:24:31.760 going to Social Security. But check this out, though, right, 0:24:31.960 --> 0:24:33.520 I looked at some ship the other day, and he 0:24:33.640 --> 0:24:37.640 says that through my life, I've already accumulated enough credits 0:24:38.080 --> 0:24:41.480 to retire, right, but I'm not allowed to retire. I 0:24:41.560 --> 0:24:44.879 thought it was sixty. I looked on the stick. Sixty seven, okay, 0:24:45.080 --> 0:24:48.560 seven years old? Yeah, so I retire sixty seven years old. 0:24:48.600 --> 0:24:50.800 I don't give these people almost a little bit over 0:24:50.920 --> 0:24:54.000 half million dollars already, right, I don't give them all 0:24:54.119 --> 0:24:57.480 this money. I'll retire sixty seven? How long? How much longer? 0:24:57.840 --> 0:25:00.879 Let's keep it one hundred? How much past sixty? Am 0:25:00.920 --> 0:25:03.080 I gonna live ten years past sixty seven? If I'm 0:25:03.160 --> 0:25:07.119 lucky for a black man, it's like seventy years, and 0:25:07.200 --> 0:25:10.800 you've got five years after years after that. Man, that's 0:25:10.840 --> 0:25:14.840 the kids left over. Now that's the question. What are 0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.440 they gonna do with that money? I kill a little 0:25:17.480 --> 0:25:19.640 for I passed away? Are they gonna cut my wife 0:25:19.680 --> 0:25:21.520 and kids and check and say, here you go? Your 0:25:21.840 --> 0:25:24.320 father was honorable, man, here's the rest of his money. No, 0:25:24.480 --> 0:25:28.440 where did that ship go? It's all a con game, man. Yeah, 0:25:29.040 --> 0:25:34.120 money going back into the time and they go back 0:25:34.160 --> 0:25:37.159 to the park. But who's gonna be the person? It's like, 0:25:37.320 --> 0:25:39.200 you know, We're sit up here and talk well, and 0:25:39.280 --> 0:25:41.480 I don't like talking to me. I'm about action, Like you, 0:25:42.240 --> 0:25:44.600 what what can we do about this ship? We don't 0:25:44.640 --> 0:25:47.240 have no real strong leadership in the community. Man. There's 0:25:47.240 --> 0:25:50.320 a lot of ship that's really just going sideways. You know, 0:25:52.000 --> 0:25:55.399 I have uh you know, I take issue with like 0:25:56.320 --> 0:25:59.560 like leadership, like black leadership, like saying that we don't 0:25:59.600 --> 0:26:01.520 have lead ship. And the reason why I take issue 0:26:01.560 --> 0:26:04.680 with that is because if we if we focus on 0:26:05.200 --> 0:26:08.040 a leader, anytime we have somebody, we can say that's 0:26:08.080 --> 0:26:10.960 our leader, that's our leader. When they killed the leader, 0:26:11.840 --> 0:26:15.399 they take out the leader, then the movement dies. And 0:26:15.480 --> 0:26:17.440 see this our movement. This is why every time we 0:26:17.480 --> 0:26:20.160 get a movement going, you met, everybody get on a board. Okay, 0:26:20.200 --> 0:26:22.840 we got our leader, and then they take them down 0:26:23.359 --> 0:26:27.440 and then the movement just died. So every single one 0:26:27.480 --> 0:26:31.199 of us have leadership in us. We have We are 0:26:31.280 --> 0:26:35.399 capable of beauty, We are capable of leading. We just 0:26:35.840 --> 0:26:38.399 know of us who are capable. I wouldn't say all 0:26:38.480 --> 0:26:40.840 of us are capable of leading leading, because all of 0:26:40.960 --> 0:26:43.199 us are not capable of leading, but many of us 0:26:43.280 --> 0:26:46.560 are capable of leading. And that's leadership. All around us. 0:26:46.920 --> 0:26:50.520 It's just that the people that all our leaders are not, 0:26:51.280 --> 0:26:53.320 you know, raising their hands and saying I'm the leader. 0:26:53.440 --> 0:26:55.760 You know that they're not. You know, like you're a leader, 0:26:55.800 --> 0:26:57.879 You're a leader. You know. Mean there's people everybody right 0:26:57.960 --> 0:27:00.880 here I'm calling leading. You know, I know y'all leaders 0:27:01.200 --> 0:27:03.160 because I know I know a little bit about all y'all. 0:27:03.200 --> 0:27:05.360 I don't know. I know a little bit about all y'all, 0:27:05.800 --> 0:27:08.320 and everything that I've seen about y'all told me that 0:27:08.400 --> 0:27:11.439 y'all was a leader. You know, y'all not followers. Everybody 0:27:11.480 --> 0:27:13.920 over here is not fos. Everybody kind of moved to 0:27:14.000 --> 0:27:17.800 the their own be to their own draft. That's leadership. 0:27:18.160 --> 0:27:21.400 And we we just need more. You need more individuals 0:27:21.440 --> 0:27:25.000 to assume their role. Yeah, you know, you know where 0:27:25.000 --> 0:27:30.800 it starts too, you know, just to to get behind 0:27:30.880 --> 0:27:32.520 what we all are saying. Man, I think that we 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.359 need to control that voting. Man. Once we control that 0:27:35.480 --> 0:27:37.320 vote and put the right people in place to make 0:27:37.400 --> 0:27:40.720 this for us, you know, start going a lot different. Man. 0:27:41.280 --> 0:27:44.000 Right now, we we we we're really checking the vote. 0:27:44.040 --> 0:27:46.639 For granted, if you get a motherucker like Willie D 0:27:46.800 --> 0:27:49.560 in the office, you're gonna see some changes, you know, 0:27:49.920 --> 0:27:52.240 like the office. You're don't see some changes, man, because 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:58.199 yeah it has to be Will they allow that? I mean, 0:27:58.359 --> 0:28:01.040 but listen, they're gonna have to allow or they're gonna 0:28:01.119 --> 0:28:03.879 keep going through the they're going through. You got motherfucker's 0:28:03.960 --> 0:28:06.600 in there, has beens been sitting in Congress and send 0:28:06.680 --> 0:28:09.000 it for fifty years, bro, and they ain't did ship 0:28:09.160 --> 0:28:11.480 be sign their names and ship or pop up at 0:28:11.520 --> 0:28:15.800 a motherfucking funeral. Dog. That's not leadership, bro, Leadership We 0:28:15.880 --> 0:28:19.480 continue to take it for granted, like like like we're 0:28:19.520 --> 0:28:21.720 taking for granted. You're gonna go and work for this 0:28:22.520 --> 0:28:25.120 man and I'm gonna make me, you know, fifty five 0:28:25.200 --> 0:28:29.240 thousand dollars sixty thousand dollars a year and the person 0:28:29.359 --> 0:28:31.679 behind me and you'all no fucking job, but fuck him, 0:28:31.840 --> 0:28:34.199 I'm cool. That's not how we should be looking at 0:28:34.240 --> 0:28:37.480 things these days. Bro. We should be looking at man, Okay, 0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.400 I got the job that's goned pack the sixty year 0:28:39.440 --> 0:28:41.200 in a year, But how do I get the next 0:28:41.280 --> 0:28:45.560 man so he can take care of Now? That's what 0:28:45.640 --> 0:28:49.200 I'm talking about right there. That's why I answer the 0:28:49.360 --> 0:28:54.600 answer is uh, group group economics. That is once we 0:28:54.760 --> 0:29:00.280 build our economic system, we didn't you run it. This 0:29:00.440 --> 0:29:02.000 is how you run it. If you ain't got money 0:29:02.040 --> 0:29:04.280 in the United States of America, you ain't running up 0:29:04.280 --> 0:29:09.360 about your mind. You gotta have money, money running, money running, 0:29:09.560 --> 0:29:11.880 So you did it. This is why, this is why 0:29:12.120 --> 0:29:16.040 every major city in America you have these Asian communities 0:29:16.440 --> 0:29:20.000 that before they became Asian communities, they were just they 0:29:20.080 --> 0:29:23.120 may have been mixed communities or predominantly black communities or whatever. 0:29:23.680 --> 0:29:25.800 And you know, you ride by in the street is 0:29:25.840 --> 0:29:27.880 called bad at. You come through there a couple of 0:29:28.080 --> 0:29:30.800 years sold later or one day and you just ride 0:29:30.840 --> 0:29:36.880 by on the street is called slas slass. You know 0:29:37.680 --> 0:29:41.320 you didn't hear no news story about in the name 0:29:41.400 --> 0:29:43.760 of the street. They didn't have to get anybout of 0:29:43.760 --> 0:29:46.240 the march with no schools, celebrities came out with no 0:29:46.320 --> 0:29:50.480 special announcement. They just changed it. You know what, that's 0:29:50.720 --> 0:29:55.960 Monday money did money and make make money, make things move. 0:29:56.600 --> 0:29:59.040 He got a lot of us. We got the money, 0:29:59.080 --> 0:30:01.320 but we're not doing of this pool and our resources 0:30:01.600 --> 0:30:04.880 and reaching back to graph even more people and teach 0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.920 them the game. You know a lot of times people 0:30:06.960 --> 0:30:09.520 say the game and sold. I told no, we gotta 0:30:09.560 --> 0:30:11.760 tell the game, you know, because we said that the 0:30:11.880 --> 0:30:14.600 game is sold not too told to an extent, but 0:30:15.440 --> 0:30:17.760 a lot of this game needs to be told in 0:30:17.920 --> 0:30:20.440 order to bring our people along though, those of us 0:30:20.600 --> 0:30:23.640 who are seeking that knowledge that's first. First for that knowledge, 0:30:23.960 --> 0:30:26.840 we gotta give him the game. We can't afford. We 0:30:26.880 --> 0:30:29.160 don't have the luxury. And not giving them the game 0:30:29.560 --> 0:30:34.720 we out of here. Bro we had war and it's 0:30:34.840 --> 0:30:39.160 all his old book. We don't have the luxury. I'm 0:30:39.200 --> 0:30:42.360 not sharing the knowledge. We don't have the luxury. Are 0:30:42.440 --> 0:30:45.440 tapping that little youngster that might be a little wild 0:30:45.840 --> 0:30:48.440 and everybody is scared of them. We ain't got we 0:30:48.480 --> 0:30:50.720 don't have the luxury, not spent the purements and just 0:30:50.920 --> 0:30:53.360 trying to show them the different things. You don't have 0:30:53.480 --> 0:30:58.600 that luxing, don't. I think the problem is we don't 0:30:58.640 --> 0:31:01.360 talk about like what I'm in right here. We don't 0:31:01.440 --> 0:31:05.200 hear that. We don't hear people talking. They're saying, we 0:31:05.320 --> 0:31:07.640 need to get this back into schools and all it is. 0:31:08.320 --> 0:31:10.560 We need to educate these young kids because there's a 0:31:10.640 --> 0:31:13.280 lot of black men out there that have no clue, 0:31:13.360 --> 0:31:16.080 that only believes in what they see and what they do. 0:31:17.280 --> 0:31:20.560 You see what I'm saying. So, just like you said, 0:31:20.640 --> 0:31:23.000 we got to get out there and relay this message. 0:31:23.480 --> 0:31:26.280 But some of us don't want to hear this message. 0:31:26.680 --> 0:31:29.600 Some of us believe that there's no way that black 0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:33.360 men are black people can come together and and make 0:31:33.440 --> 0:31:37.240 ship happen. We we tell each other down, is what 0:31:37.360 --> 0:31:40.120 I'm saying. So we got an other ways to build 0:31:40.160 --> 0:31:45.600 each other up. Our separates thing um pretty much everything. 0:31:45.720 --> 0:31:49.800 Because when when you hear black man greeting another black man, 0:31:50.320 --> 0:31:52.880 what's up with nigga? But then get man when the 0:31:52.920 --> 0:31:56.800 white man said, nigga, But what about how you doing? 0:31:56.880 --> 0:31:59.280 My brother? What's up black man? We need to greet 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:02.040 each other and to different kind of way because we 0:32:02.200 --> 0:32:05.880 are stuck in something that we have no knowledge of, 0:32:06.000 --> 0:32:09.360 belief and understand it. When these people feeding us the 0:32:09.440 --> 0:32:13.360 other bullshit, you feel me? So what what what I'm 0:32:13.360 --> 0:32:17.160 saying to you is we need to grow. We need 0:32:17.280 --> 0:32:21.040 to understand and educate our minds. You don't have to 0:32:21.200 --> 0:32:25.440 necessarily being a school because the streets marksmitted the past marks, 0:32:26.720 --> 0:32:28.720 and if you can understand the ship that goes on 0:32:28.840 --> 0:32:31.920 in the streets, you can come in a classroom, you 0:32:32.000 --> 0:32:34.280 can go to work and you can spill that that 0:32:34.480 --> 0:32:38.200 knowledge right there, like like we're doing here on this podcast. 0:32:38.800 --> 0:32:41.840 You know what I'm saying. So what what black men 0:32:41.920 --> 0:32:46.080 need to do is understand what Scar Pacing really is 0:32:46.120 --> 0:32:49.200 talking about. What norm still have to argue what m 0:32:49.280 --> 0:32:52.160 c a Is saying. You know what I'm saying, our 0:32:52.280 --> 0:32:55.680 life history, the way we've been living as black people. 0:32:56.040 --> 0:32:58.760 A lot of a lot of black people don't care 0:33:00.320 --> 0:33:03.600 and hes you know what I'm saying about that game 0:33:04.600 --> 0:33:07.720 if everybody, everybody ain't gonna make it. Bill, we got 0:33:07.840 --> 0:33:09.920 to see the thing about one thing about us is 0:33:10.000 --> 0:33:13.920 that we in innately we're loving people. You know, we 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:18.200 are we are forgiving people, right, Uh just its innately 0:33:18.320 --> 0:33:22.800 and historically we are forgiving people. And this is why 0:33:22.960 --> 0:33:26.360 we always and we are We feel like everything should 0:33:26.400 --> 0:33:29.600 be fair. Right, We're like, this is why we take 0:33:29.640 --> 0:33:31.960 on a lot of people's causes that don't take on 0:33:32.040 --> 0:33:35.080 our corpins. We see something happen to happening to another 0:33:35.160 --> 0:33:37.239 race or another group of people, and that they never 0:33:37.320 --> 0:33:39.160 fought for us, they never stood up for us. But 0:33:39.280 --> 0:33:41.240 we just that's not fair, that's not right. We just 0:33:41.320 --> 0:33:44.720 automatically waving their flag. We're just we're just riding for him. 0:33:45.080 --> 0:33:48.840 That is because we we got this concept that things 0:33:48.920 --> 0:33:52.920 are supposed to be fat. No, look, it ain't about fatness. 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:58.520 It's about bending another person to your wheels, bending them 0:33:58.600 --> 0:34:00.840 to your weird What is it that you want? What 0:34:01.040 --> 0:34:05.200 is it that you need? They must comply. Ain't no 0:34:05.480 --> 0:34:09.239 other and the ain't no asking. Stop asking people and 0:34:09.480 --> 0:34:13.640 power to share power. They're not going to share it power. 0:34:13.960 --> 0:34:16.560 They didn't act for to share the power. They went 0:34:16.600 --> 0:34:19.800 and took it. So you gotta take power if you want. 0:34:20.480 --> 0:34:25.120 But everybody, everybody is not going to make it. Some 0:34:25.640 --> 0:34:30.719 some black people out they are poking up. They look 0:34:30.800 --> 0:34:33.240 black on the outside, but they're hite on the instide. 0:34:33.880 --> 0:34:36.600 And but they can get by a lot of times 0:34:37.160 --> 0:34:39.799 because what we would do. And it's some of them 0:34:39.880 --> 0:34:44.080 that are only social media platforms who are masquerading like 0:34:44.400 --> 0:34:47.960 social warriors. They are here acting like they're really for 0:34:48.080 --> 0:34:51.560 the people, but they really not. And this is how 0:34:51.680 --> 0:34:54.080 you can recognize. This is the easiest way to recognize it. 0:34:55.800 --> 0:34:58.800 If your criticism of the black community outwhere your contribution 0:34:58.920 --> 0:35:04.840 you want. It's a whole lot of them. All they do, 0:35:05.960 --> 0:35:09.359 all they do is touched it about black people. Oh, 0:35:09.840 --> 0:35:13.960 they might throw you off a little bit. This is 0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:17.040 what's confusing, because this is what they'll do to get 0:35:17.120 --> 0:35:19.680 you on that side. They'll be like, they'll say a 0:35:19.760 --> 0:35:22.759 couple of things that's true that everybody agreed to, Like 0:35:22.920 --> 0:35:26.640 all people say, yeah, that's uni universally that's true. For instance, 0:35:27.800 --> 0:35:31.440 you know, black people need to they need to stop 0:35:31.480 --> 0:35:33.800 with the black on black crime. Everybody. Yeah, man, that 0:35:33.920 --> 0:35:35.840 is I got a poem that too. Yeah, that's probably 0:35:35.880 --> 0:35:41.200 that's probably everybody like, yeah, yeah, right, um, yeah, well, 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.640 well you know that there's a lot of you know, 0:35:43.920 --> 0:35:47.760 uh black people that uh that uh, you know, selling 0:35:47.840 --> 0:35:50.839 dope and we gotta stop selling dope while you sell 0:35:50.920 --> 0:35:53.480 dope and get more when over jail. Oh yeah that's right, 0:35:53.560 --> 0:35:56.720 Y's stop. Yeah man, yea, that is true. That is true. 0:35:57.520 --> 0:36:01.560 And then they go so they'll go light. They'll go 0:36:01.840 --> 0:36:03.880 light on a few things that are right at a 0:36:04.040 --> 0:36:07.600 universally right that nobody can dispute. And then they go 0:36:07.840 --> 0:36:13.120 pop heavy on throwing black people under the textbook Candice 0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:19.839 Bns textbook, Step and a skin textbook far all of them. 0:36:20.520 --> 0:36:23.400 They go top heavy on their criticism of the black community. 0:36:24.160 --> 0:36:28.360 They say something that's right, they might say, well not 0:36:28.520 --> 0:36:32.400 at all back, and then they start and after that 0:36:32.719 --> 0:36:35.160 they start generalizing. But we need to do better as 0:36:35.200 --> 0:36:37.480 a people. A big part of it is that we 0:36:37.600 --> 0:36:45.799 gotta get used to uh destroying, equistrating those coping nuts 0:36:46.080 --> 0:36:50.040 because the fairy thing was we gotta be okay and 0:36:50.160 --> 0:36:52.920 getting rid of and also the book of nuts who 0:36:52.960 --> 0:36:57.480 are going around shooting about making a neighborhood. I say, 0:36:57.600 --> 0:37:00.320 for the women and the children, their motherfucker's got go to. 0:37:02.400 --> 0:37:05.080 And some of them are my family members, fuck them, 0:37:06.760 --> 0:37:09.360 some up my from up from of them I do 0:37:09.520 --> 0:37:14.080 up there, fuck them, they got to go. The motherfucker's 0:37:14.160 --> 0:37:17.800 got to go. They're making my job that much harder 0:37:18.520 --> 0:37:20.320 every every day that will be allowed him to be 0:37:20.440 --> 0:37:23.759 comfortable in the neighborhood and this ride through and be 0:37:23.960 --> 0:37:28.560 dangerous in the neighborhood is it is still as I fight, 0:37:28.680 --> 0:37:31.960 I overall fight. It makes harder for us. It's like 0:37:32.280 --> 0:37:34.640 imagine if you were in a box, the rain and 0:37:34.719 --> 0:37:36.400 your and your appointment was in the front of you, 0:37:36.960 --> 0:37:40.560 and you were throwing punches and ship and the motherfucker 0:37:40.920 --> 0:37:45.920 behind your heads behind you. That's that that motherfucking come 0:37:46.000 --> 0:37:49.920 thenother you can see him because you know what you 0:37:50.000 --> 0:37:53.239 are about this. This is your announced the point right 0:37:53.480 --> 0:37:58.040 his motherfucker And I'm setting up with the band you 0:37:58.760 --> 0:38:03.120 but you got to feel don't want touches over Eve. 0:38:03.200 --> 0:38:07.520 You got this, you know, like you know. So that's 0:38:07.560 --> 0:38:11.239 what it's like, you know, being you know and in 0:38:11.320 --> 0:38:14.759 this space that we're in. You know, sure if we 0:38:14.880 --> 0:38:18.120 do not care for Will, Yeah, I'm gonna tell you, 0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:24.880 those white boys ain't playing it. They all here in Camelfornia, man, 0:38:24.960 --> 0:38:28.920 they're in the mountains. They gathered up their guns. They 0:38:29.000 --> 0:38:31.080 got their six year old daughter to the other shoot. 0:38:31.080 --> 0:38:33.280 They got their nine year old fund in the other shoot. 0:38:33.480 --> 0:38:35.200 And you know what we're doing. We're down here on 0:38:35.239 --> 0:38:37.319 the internet playing with each other, talking about each other, 0:38:37.400 --> 0:38:39.440 playing and playing and playing around while they up there 0:38:39.480 --> 0:38:43.399 getting ready and making cick top dance challenges and ship 0:38:43.520 --> 0:38:50.200 and video terk and shaking our ass all that old ship. Yeah, 0:38:50.239 --> 0:38:52.839 we're down playing and they up there really getting ready. 0:38:52.880 --> 0:38:55.200 They got compounds where they don't put together, they got 0:38:55.320 --> 0:38:58.280 food stored up, they got water. They're getting ready for something. 0:38:58.400 --> 0:39:00.640 And we're out here playing. If we're not careful. And 0:39:00.719 --> 0:39:03.320 another thing, we're not looking at I was reading something. 0:39:03.880 --> 0:39:07.000 They were talking about this private prison. They were up 0:39:07.080 --> 0:39:10.120 twenty seven percent last year and made nine eight million 0:39:10.200 --> 0:39:15.920 dollars one prison, one prison. It's the new slavery because 0:39:15.960 --> 0:39:18.680 if they can take if they can take Monston, they 0:39:18.719 --> 0:39:22.120 can take months Ton and James Son, hey Son, Brad 0:39:22.200 --> 0:39:24.960 Soon and put in the prison. There are assets. They're 0:39:25.000 --> 0:39:28.160 looking this assets now we are being traded and I 0:39:28.239 --> 0:39:30.799 don't even know. It's just so much stuff. We all 0:39:30.840 --> 0:39:33.440 don't want to gonna change him. It's so much stuff 0:39:33.480 --> 0:39:36.040 that we shouldn't be mad about, that we should know about, 0:39:36.280 --> 0:39:38.680 but we're not seeing nothing. We had a guy on 0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:41.520 this show that um he was born cats out here 0:39:41.760 --> 0:39:45.960 on the you know expenci Resurgeon. They put this man 0:39:46.000 --> 0:39:48.440 in jail. They kept the stores open and lock them up. 0:39:48.760 --> 0:39:52.400 They put that's kidnapping. You're not. You don't charge somebody 0:39:52.480 --> 0:39:54.359 to something. You just come and grabbing us. Next day 0:39:54.680 --> 0:39:57.279 something what is that called? We're doing our das the 0:39:57.360 --> 0:40:00.720 day out here he was, he was, he was messing 0:40:00.800 --> 0:40:03.759 with the money very much. Guess we've got to get 0:40:03.760 --> 0:40:12.440 it together. Your come some music questions? You know my thing? 0:40:12.800 --> 0:40:18.600 Uh like no, we we try to conversate about about 0:40:18.680 --> 0:40:21.480 other things than hip hop or whatever. One thing I 0:40:21.600 --> 0:40:25.480 do want to say is something from that same background. Um, 0:40:26.760 --> 0:40:28.640 we see a lot of ships that go down with 0:40:28.800 --> 0:40:32.800 the youth today. It's hard to control, you know what 0:40:32.840 --> 0:40:35.040 I'm saying. I'm knowing they're rough down there where y'all 0:40:35.120 --> 0:40:39.359 add especially where we are up in Chicago. Uh, from 0:40:39.400 --> 0:40:43.080 where we come from in our background, you know. Uh, 0:40:43.520 --> 0:40:48.320 a lot of opportunities wasn't presented to us, especially to 0:40:48.440 --> 0:40:51.959 myself coming up you know whatever, why I started gang 0:40:52.040 --> 0:40:55.880 banging and doing that route. Uh being the man that 0:40:56.080 --> 0:40:59.719 you are today, you face whatever. How do y'all feel 0:41:00.040 --> 0:41:03.239 about when people say do you feel responsible? But how 0:41:03.320 --> 0:41:07.239 the youth turn out today because of them listening to 0:41:07.600 --> 0:41:11.440 us and what we went through as artists. Yeah, on 0:41:11.520 --> 0:41:16.920 a personal note, I feel like whatever criticism we get, 0:41:17.040 --> 0:41:19.440 we need to get credit also. We need to get 0:41:19.480 --> 0:41:22.399 credit for all of those all of those young black 0:41:22.480 --> 0:41:26.839 people and and Tino, black Latinos and and even white 0:41:26.880 --> 0:41:29.080 people who got it. We listened to our music and 0:41:29.120 --> 0:41:31.040 got inspired and went out there and made something great 0:41:31.040 --> 0:41:34.880 out of themselves. Like people love to talk about anything 0:41:35.000 --> 0:41:37.120 that's wrong with the youth, They love a point at 0:41:37.440 --> 0:41:40.680 rappers for for anything that's wrong. But when when their 0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.400 kid is shining, when their kids get that, get drafted 0:41:43.400 --> 0:41:47.080 into the NBA, NFL A, Major League Baseball or whatever, 0:41:47.160 --> 0:41:50.360 when their kids become a lawyer, doctor, scientist, an entrepreneur, 0:41:50.600 --> 0:41:52.920 they want to take all the credit. They look at me, 0:41:53.000 --> 0:41:54.520 look at me, that that's me, that's me, that's me. 0:41:54.920 --> 0:41:56.919 But but but when they when the kid comes become 0:41:56.960 --> 0:42:01.359 a fucking junkie, uh killer, you know h they end 0:42:01.440 --> 0:42:03.560 up in jail and they end up on the internet, 0:42:03.719 --> 0:42:06.120 working and bending over and shipping all that old ship. 0:42:06.480 --> 0:42:09.320 They want to blame that on rappers. Give me my 0:42:09.440 --> 0:42:13.399 motherfucking credit. When your kid get that degree, also get 0:42:13.600 --> 0:42:15.480 I want to if you're gonna give me, you're gonna 0:42:15.480 --> 0:42:18.239 criticize me for the music. When the kids out there 0:42:18.360 --> 0:42:20.520 sucking up, I won't create it. I won't up and 0:42:20.600 --> 0:42:22.719 the rappers won't create it. When your kids are out 0:42:22.760 --> 0:42:25.879 there doing great ship, we want our create its our ship. 0:42:26.440 --> 0:42:29.840 Now I have been said that I do believe that 0:42:31.040 --> 0:42:34.960 all of us, as arted, we have a responsibility, a 0:42:35.080 --> 0:42:38.680 greater responsibility than I even knew. When I was making 0:42:38.719 --> 0:42:43.160 the music. I really didn't understand how important. The message was. 0:42:43.760 --> 0:42:46.120 All I knew is that we're gonna put some information 0:42:46.200 --> 0:42:51.160 and instructions out here, information and influct you. I didn't 0:42:51.200 --> 0:42:54.000 know that something that some of the things that I said, 0:42:54.640 --> 0:42:59.160 uh would be would would actually uh not really benefit 0:42:59.320 --> 0:43:01.920 the community. I was because but my whole thing was 0:43:02.040 --> 0:43:06.160 always two uh, to be a voice for the voices, 0:43:06.600 --> 0:43:09.640 to try to be that dude that would say the 0:43:09.719 --> 0:43:14.319 ship and stand up to the powers that be get 0:43:14.360 --> 0:43:17.960 at the bullet like everybody else scared do it. I 0:43:18.200 --> 0:43:21.520 get him. You know what I'm saying, You're scared that motherfucker. 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.040 I fight him, you know what, not just fight him 0:43:24.520 --> 0:43:27.359 with his ass, you know what I'm saying. Like That's 0:43:27.440 --> 0:43:30.640 always been my mentality. Like, so that's why I'm not 0:43:30.800 --> 0:43:34.080 afraid of the government. I'm not afraid of police officers. 0:43:34.520 --> 0:43:38.279 You know, I'm not afraid of any gangster, anybody that 0:43:38.360 --> 0:43:40.759 got a bunch of money or whatever, got goons or whatever, 0:43:40.960 --> 0:43:45.520 because I operate with the understanding that anything that a 0:43:45.600 --> 0:43:47.120 man can do to me, I can do to him, 0:43:48.080 --> 0:43:49.919 and I will do it, you know what I'm saying. 0:43:50.280 --> 0:43:53.799 And I've always but I'm I'm I'm a nice guy, 0:43:54.560 --> 0:43:56.680 you know anybody that if you, if you really know me, 0:43:56.840 --> 0:43:58.759 you know I'm a nice guy. I'm a good guy, 0:43:59.120 --> 0:44:00.680 you know. And I do believe that that's one of 0:44:00.680 --> 0:44:02.600 the reasons when you still here to tell my story, 0:44:03.000 --> 0:44:05.560 because I was shown favor because I have a good heart. 0:44:05.840 --> 0:44:08.440 I was shown favor if I wasn't just a dusty 0:44:08.520 --> 0:44:11.000 ass dude, you know, and if I was a dude 0:44:11.040 --> 0:44:13.719 that just went in and just readab it on the community. 0:44:13.960 --> 0:44:16.200 I never gave back. I never tried to help anybody. 0:44:16.680 --> 0:44:18.040 You know. I don't think I would be in a 0:44:18.080 --> 0:44:21.480 position that I'm in today. But I said a lot 0:44:21.560 --> 0:44:23.879 of good seeds and that and and that's the reason 0:44:23.960 --> 0:44:27.040 why you know I'm still standing. You know. Well, I 0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:29.160 was gonna ask you because you mentioned the way you said. 0:44:29.200 --> 0:44:31.759 I hope his ask you ain't playing. He would have 0:44:31.800 --> 0:44:34.879 been a professional boxing hun. Yeah, but what I did, 0:44:35.080 --> 0:44:38.560 I did. I didn't have a few profiles, was that right, Yeah, 0:44:39.080 --> 0:44:41.719 when you was out there, I had a shifty rector 0:44:41.800 --> 0:44:46.719 that's three and one three one. But but the thing 0:44:46.840 --> 0:44:49.960 the thing about it is this, man, uh, I just 0:44:50.040 --> 0:44:52.920 started boxing too late. Like I think that when you 0:44:53.000 --> 0:44:56.160 start boxing, you should be hungry, like like like like 0:44:56.719 --> 0:45:00.239 literally hungry, right, like I ain't got when at the 0:45:00.320 --> 0:45:03.120 house when you know, we ain't got this or whatever, 0:45:03.320 --> 0:45:05.360 And I think you would come out like that and 0:45:05.520 --> 0:45:08.920 you're gonna be more hungry. Like when I started boxing, 0:45:09.880 --> 0:45:12.759 I was already into the money. When I professionally and 0:45:12.840 --> 0:45:15.080 I started walking professionally, I was already into the money. 0:45:15.280 --> 0:45:17.360 I was always I was already making wrap money and 0:45:17.440 --> 0:45:20.200 real estate money and stuff like that. So you know, 0:45:20.480 --> 0:45:23.120 when I leave the gym, I'm not coming home because 0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:26.400 to my girlfriend house and my some room and my 0:45:26.520 --> 0:45:29.840 mama's basement or whatever. I'm coming home to a fucking mansion. 0:45:30.280 --> 0:45:31.800 You know what I'm saying. It's a difference. It's a 0:45:31.880 --> 0:45:35.280 big difference when you when you when you because because 0:45:35.360 --> 0:45:39.400 boxing there's a blood sport, type of sport. When you 0:45:39.480 --> 0:45:42.160 walk into the rain, you can lose your life, and 0:45:42.280 --> 0:45:44.120 you know it in the back of your head, and 0:45:44.200 --> 0:45:46.200 everybody like, not the funk would you do something like 0:45:46.320 --> 0:45:50.600 that to do that? You know that. It's hard to explain, 0:45:50.719 --> 0:45:53.600 but it's something think about whatever it is that really 0:45:53.640 --> 0:45:57.359 gets you off, Well, they're really really excites you. That's 0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:01.080 how That's how boxing was for me. It's exciting it's 0:46:01.160 --> 0:46:04.680 like when you're walking into that ring and it's like 0:46:04.800 --> 0:46:08.760 a warrior, you know, like ancient warrior, you know, room times. 0:46:09.080 --> 0:46:12.239 You know, it's like, uh, it's like, uh, You're walking 0:46:12.280 --> 0:46:14.319 into the ring and people are looking at that thin 0:46:14.600 --> 0:46:17.600 and this these people over here for this guy, these 0:46:17.640 --> 0:46:20.080 people for this guy. You got people over here betting 0:46:20.120 --> 0:46:22.400 and stuff like that. And you're walking into the ring 0:46:22.520 --> 0:46:24.520 and you know that Chris guy is gonna try to 0:46:24.920 --> 0:46:27.800 knock you out and your job is to is to 0:46:27.920 --> 0:46:31.600 hurt him, and you know, and in the back of 0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:34.839 your mind you're saying to yourself, I could actually die. 0:46:35.120 --> 0:46:37.000 I'm gon not walk out of this ring a lot. 0:46:38.239 --> 0:46:41.239 It's it's kind of like, in a way, it's kind 0:46:41.280 --> 0:46:43.560 of poetic at the same time, it's kind of sick. 0:46:44.040 --> 0:46:47.440 You know. It's kind of six Ship but you know, like, uh, 0:46:49.000 --> 0:46:51.680 but it's it's it's boxing though. It was just something man. 0:46:51.840 --> 0:46:54.560 I I just I love the ship out of it. 0:46:54.640 --> 0:46:56.719 And people that that that that do it, they know 0:46:56.800 --> 0:46:59.600 what I'm talking about. But everybody thought that I was 0:46:59.600 --> 0:47:03.520 gonna boxer when I wanted to Texas go to Lives Championship. 0:47:04.080 --> 0:47:07.360 Everybody thought, Okay, he's naturally gonna become a boxer, and 0:47:08.200 --> 0:47:10.880 and I was rapping around the same time. But I 0:47:11.080 --> 0:47:15.560 realized that I was really good at rapp and I 0:47:15.680 --> 0:47:18.160 was really good at boxing. The girls like rappers. The 0:47:18.239 --> 0:47:20.920 girls like boxes. The girls you get a lot of 0:47:20.960 --> 0:47:22.840 money wrapping, You can get a lot of money boxing. 0:47:23.200 --> 0:47:25.160 But at the end of the day, when I get 0:47:25.239 --> 0:47:27.560 through rapping, when I leave the studio or lead the stage, 0:47:27.560 --> 0:47:30.400 I ain't got no headaches. So that's how I chose 0:47:31.000 --> 0:47:34.160 over boxing because I was like, long term, I had 0:47:34.800 --> 0:47:37.800 Mohammad Ali in the back of my mind, like like 0:47:38.000 --> 0:47:40.160 what had happened to him? And I didn't want to 0:47:40.200 --> 0:47:42.680 be that dude. I remember here in New York City 0:47:42.719 --> 0:47:45.680 one then and I saw I Ran Barkley and I 0:47:45.800 --> 0:47:48.200 walked up behind him and I said, what's up? I 0:47:48.320 --> 0:47:53.440 ran it? Uh? And he said uh he uh. He 0:47:53.600 --> 0:47:56.680 looked back like in slow motion like this, he had 0:47:56.680 --> 0:48:00.359 to turn his whole body and he was like, uh, 0:48:01.000 --> 0:48:03.960 what's up? Will it d It's real story. Speech was 0:48:04.000 --> 0:48:07.879 really slurred and he had his last fact was maybe 0:48:08.000 --> 0:48:10.840 maybe two years before that. When I started that condition, 0:48:11.760 --> 0:48:13.439 I was like, yeah, I don't want to be that dude, 0:48:13.640 --> 0:48:17.520 you know, right, that's a brutal sport. You know, y'all 0:48:17.560 --> 0:48:21.600 got a new podcast coming up, man, right, Ghetto Boys 0:48:21.640 --> 0:48:23.920 reloaded what we're gonna get on there? Man? We get 0:48:23.920 --> 0:48:28.279 some more information and instructions. That's all we've ever been 0:48:28.320 --> 0:48:32.239 about that, all that music that we did. It was 0:48:32.400 --> 0:48:38.719 always okay, if we make a song and we finished, like, okay, 0:48:38.760 --> 0:48:41.640 where's the information, where's the instructions? If we don't hear 0:48:41.640 --> 0:48:43.960 the information, instruction like, go back to the grand board 0:48:45.520 --> 0:48:49.080 information and instructions. So that's what we're doing now. So 0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:52.480 this is more like a like an extension of other music, 0:48:52.960 --> 0:48:56.480 but more better in the podcast format. And you know, 0:48:56.600 --> 0:48:58.319 I got it. We got a few more minutes, man, 0:48:58.400 --> 0:49:00.200 So I gotta touch on some music. If I ask 0:49:00.280 --> 0:49:02.160 you the music questions do you do? Was gonna flood 0:49:02.239 --> 0:49:05.080 my embox. You had wie d on there and you 0:49:05.120 --> 0:49:08.640 ain't asking this a meth You know, how did you 0:49:08.719 --> 0:49:10.919 because I've never heard this before, how did you get hooked? 0:49:11.120 --> 0:49:13.279 Because you wasn't an original member of the Ghetto Boys 0:49:13.280 --> 0:49:19.440 at first it was it was pretty red and it 0:49:19.560 --> 0:49:23.000 was ready red juke box and Prince Unty c mm 0:49:23.080 --> 0:49:26.800 HM and uh prencio se which is the hell of 0:49:26.880 --> 0:49:28.360 a hell of a dude, you know, the hell of 0:49:28.440 --> 0:49:31.360 a hell of a writer, underrated out of New Jersey. 0:49:32.040 --> 0:49:35.680 So what happened was I signed to Wrap a Lout 0:49:35.840 --> 0:49:39.279 as a solo artist. After I was there for a 0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.640 few months. A couple of months, so I finished my 0:49:42.840 --> 0:49:47.600 album and Jay came to me one night and he 0:49:47.760 --> 0:49:53.759 was like, man, I got an idea, and what you 0:49:53.840 --> 0:49:57.400 think about being a ghetto boy? And I was like, no, 0:49:57.560 --> 0:49:59.040 I don't want to be in a rude. I snapped 0:49:59.080 --> 0:50:01.279 that ship out like I shot it down, real thing. 0:50:01.800 --> 0:50:03.080 But I don't want to be in the group. Man, 0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:05.640 I don't want be a group. And and I'm saying 0:50:05.680 --> 0:50:10.000 this because I'm I'm an odd person. So I look 0:50:10.040 --> 0:50:13.040 at stuff, I look at scenarios and what's most likely 0:50:13.120 --> 0:50:18.440 to happen, and I move a lot on most likely scenarios. 0:50:19.120 --> 0:50:20.799 And I was like, well, if I joined the group, 0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:23.320 most likely to happen, what's most likely happened is that 0:50:23.360 --> 0:50:25.239 we're gonna break up. It's gonna be allowed with a 0:50:25.320 --> 0:50:27.400 lot of drama and ship like all of these groups 0:50:27.400 --> 0:50:29.279 I've seen in the past. How you look at the 0:50:29.320 --> 0:50:33.840 greatest groups, the Temptations, the Supremes, you know, Smoking Robinson 0:50:33.880 --> 0:50:37.040 and the Miracles, all of them. You know, they broke up. 0:50:37.360 --> 0:50:39.160 You know, wrote was strong with all of them, broke 0:50:39.280 --> 0:50:43.560 up and out. I don't like investing in something and 0:50:43.680 --> 0:50:47.080 not doing the distance. Like if I funk with Jump 0:50:47.160 --> 0:50:51.080 stuff with you, I don't. I don't understand that people 0:50:51.120 --> 0:50:54.480 who put a limitation on large, I don't and that 0:50:54.560 --> 0:50:56.880 I don't. I don't believe in large to have the 0:50:57.000 --> 0:51:00.200 inspiration day. So this is why I funked with to 0:51:00.320 --> 0:51:02.399 this day. You know, like me and Jay, we don't 0:51:02.400 --> 0:51:04.640 pick it like we used to. But if Jake called 0:51:04.680 --> 0:51:07.400 me right now and said, well we won't what you 0:51:07.480 --> 0:51:10.480 need to do, bro, I'm saying that's me, you know, say, 0:51:10.520 --> 0:51:13.000 don't matter how much I give, but ha far alone, 0:51:13.800 --> 0:51:18.080 that don't matter because anyboda. So so for me, you know, 0:51:18.480 --> 0:51:20.080 so Ja came to me and he was like, man, 0:51:21.280 --> 0:51:23.560 you know, he was like he was trying to convince me. 0:51:24.400 --> 0:51:27.120 And then I was like and then he was like 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:32.120 do it for me. I was like, somebody, they didn't 0:51:32.120 --> 0:51:36.360 go to stoopid this ship, because that's that's that's simple 0:51:36.880 --> 0:51:41.840 statement through it. For me, I could refuse because this 0:51:42.040 --> 0:51:45.800 dude was investing in my dream. Nobody else in the 0:51:45.880 --> 0:51:48.239 planet was doing it. Nobody else on the planet was 0:51:48.320 --> 0:51:52.400 doing that. He was putting up the money. It's a 0:51:52.440 --> 0:51:54.800 lot of people can cheer and and you know and 0:51:54.920 --> 0:51:58.440 pop me up and all that ship. But you know, 0:51:58.640 --> 0:52:00.640 he was gonna put the money up. He was putting 0:52:00.640 --> 0:52:02.880 the money up. So when he said like that, I 0:52:03.000 --> 0:52:07.040 was like, all right, and then I'm thinking the back 0:52:07.080 --> 0:52:09.120 of my mind, you know, plus okay, that's two spects 0:52:09.120 --> 0:52:16.040 instead of one. Right, So I wrote, uh, do it 0:52:16.160 --> 0:52:21.000 like a geo? That was the first Getto Boys thronging room. 0:52:21.640 --> 0:52:24.240 I won't do it like a geo? And I wrote 0:52:25.800 --> 0:52:28.440 let ahobi U let a whole bie home. One of 0:52:28.520 --> 0:52:31.640 my classes. You were like the Geo classes, But that's 0:52:31.680 --> 0:52:34.880 one of the classes. When I wrote those two songs, 0:52:35.440 --> 0:52:38.400 those was gonna be Geto Boys song. He asked me 0:52:38.480 --> 0:52:41.400 to write hold on, I'm going too fast, let me 0:52:41.480 --> 0:52:44.040 back up. Before he asked me to join the group, 0:52:44.080 --> 0:52:46.719 he asked me to write for the group. M So 0:52:46.800 --> 0:52:49.239 I was gonna I wrote those two songs for the 0:52:49.280 --> 0:52:53.399 new Geto Boys our with the old group. I wasn't. 0:52:55.560 --> 0:52:57.600 He comes back to me and say, man, that's when 0:52:57.680 --> 0:53:00.360 he come back to me and say, I don't know, 0:53:00.440 --> 0:53:03.120 we can sow later. Man, I got this idea, why 0:53:03.120 --> 0:53:04.759 don't you be you know what you think about being 0:53:04.800 --> 0:53:06.799 to get Over boy? And that's right now now now. 0:53:07.200 --> 0:53:11.040 So anyway, I agreed to be in the group. And 0:53:12.280 --> 0:53:16.800 uh because when he let his people listened to those 0:53:16.840 --> 0:53:19.640 two songs, he was like, man, yeah, this is it 0:53:20.000 --> 0:53:22.439 was going crazy or this is the direction we're trying 0:53:22.480 --> 0:53:25.400 to take the group in because before that, you listened 0:53:25.400 --> 0:53:27.920 to the Peri Curtist to Get Over Us album. You know, 0:53:28.520 --> 0:53:30.640 you know it's you can see a kind of run 0:53:30.719 --> 0:53:34.719 their feet type nine right exactly. They got the you know, 0:53:34.840 --> 0:53:39.520 the the hats on the gold chain black, you know 0:53:39.880 --> 0:53:42.520 kind of run DMC thing with Jay wanted to be 0:53:42.640 --> 0:53:46.280 more authentic to Houston. He wants more authentic to the South, 0:53:46.960 --> 0:53:51.680 like we got a different style. We we all we 0:53:51.800 --> 0:53:56.560 all have basically the same plight, uh, but we have 0:53:57.200 --> 0:54:02.279 Uh that's some cultural differences based on where you are, 0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:05.640 what you can at the country you're head right, where 0:54:05.680 --> 0:54:08.920 neighborhood you live in. That are something cultural differences and 0:54:09.560 --> 0:54:14.720 Jay wanted to uh explore those differences. So that's what happened. 0:54:14.760 --> 0:54:16.640 He wanted to I guess a better world would be 0:54:16.680 --> 0:54:20.280 explore those differences. But he wanted to explore those differences. 0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:26.000 And uh so when I come out with to do 0:54:26.120 --> 0:54:28.440 it like a do you know I'm back like the 0:54:28.480 --> 0:54:30.520 wether making trug. I'm in the stass and kicking ass 0:54:30.560 --> 0:54:33.440 in the devil. No motherfucker live gonna stop me, so 0:54:33.600 --> 0:54:36.440 funk when you goddamn posse, it's time to step on 0:54:36.560 --> 0:54:41.600 some mother Yeah, fuck them. Hold coach, ain't playing our songs. 0:54:41.600 --> 0:54:43.400 I want to know what the hell going on? I 0:54:43.560 --> 0:54:47.680 meant that ship out like in New York j like 0:54:47.840 --> 0:54:52.960 beat that motherfucker head because we're playing the ship. We're 0:54:52.960 --> 0:54:55.719 playing all of this New York ship. We ain't never 0:54:55.840 --> 0:54:58.479 hate we if it's ship is jam and we funk 0:54:58.560 --> 0:55:01.160 with it. So we're playing New York ship while y'all 0:55:01.239 --> 0:55:04.920 not playing ship. Give me more call ready and stuff 0:55:04.920 --> 0:55:08.800 that I could ask. And the motherfuck New York is 0:55:08.800 --> 0:55:11.440 well again. So let the ego sheet in. You know, 0:55:11.600 --> 0:55:14.680 we all we we acknowledge that we recommend New York 0:55:14.800 --> 0:55:17.560 is will be doing. But let the ship. Let the 0:55:17.680 --> 0:55:24.279 ego she in. So with that song, that song, if 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:26.400 you listen to that song, that song was touched on 0:55:26.440 --> 0:55:29.880 the whole, not your issues, and I just wanted to 0:55:29.880 --> 0:55:35.960 touch on all the issues that uh that we relevant, 0:55:36.360 --> 0:55:40.279 you know to trying to navigate through this life and 0:55:40.400 --> 0:55:43.320 dealing with all the stuff that you the angst that 0:55:43.480 --> 0:55:46.919 you deal with, you know, being inside of a black 0:55:47.000 --> 0:55:50.680 buy you know, like black red is being this own, 0:55:51.440 --> 0:55:56.000 not by the other folks, but its own. Uh. The said, 0:55:56.200 --> 0:55:57.680 let me see, the black man the year is being 0:55:57.719 --> 0:56:00.440 his own, not by the others, but its own. Uh 0:56:02.440 --> 0:56:05.640 damn the drawing the blank. But anyway, the bottom line 0:56:05.760 --> 0:56:09.440 was that I was saying that how black radio A 0:56:09.520 --> 0:56:11.680 lot of black radio stations at the time was not 0:56:11.840 --> 0:56:16.480 playing black black wrappers. It wasn't playing rap music. Man. 0:56:16.760 --> 0:56:19.080 It was like, no, that ain't cool, you know, like 0:56:19.600 --> 0:56:24.239 that's like a lot of clube wasn't playing rap music 0:56:24.360 --> 0:56:26.719 back then. A lot of R and D plays wasn't 0:56:26.760 --> 0:56:30.920 playing rap music. They probed it was black people just 0:56:31.080 --> 0:56:32.680 like in l A. I know this was happening in 0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:34.800 l A too. They were black people that used to 0:56:34.880 --> 0:56:39.000 pride themselves or not listening to rap music like to 0:56:39.080 --> 0:56:44.359 that they thought they it was almost like they thought 0:56:44.440 --> 0:56:46.480 that was special that they didn't listen to rap music. 0:56:46.560 --> 0:56:48.920 You know, they thought there was They thought it was 0:56:49.040 --> 0:56:53.520 some type of degree or some ship listening to rap music. Hey, 0:56:53.600 --> 0:56:57.520 here you go check this out. You know. So my 0:56:57.800 --> 0:57:01.640 eyehole thing was like, man, this ship right here, it's 0:57:01.760 --> 0:57:05.640 going to be the vehicle that drive us straight up 0:57:05.680 --> 0:57:09.279 by the poverty. And so anybody that get in the 0:57:09.400 --> 0:57:15.800 way of this journey if they're gonna get red in 0:57:15.840 --> 0:57:20.000 the funk over. We had DJs who would not play 0:57:20.080 --> 0:57:25.280 the music. So you know, I was like an original 0:57:25.400 --> 0:57:28.480 rap lot doing walk up to the DJ, Yo, man 0:57:29.040 --> 0:57:32.439 play the song. I don't know. I mean, I can't 0:57:32.440 --> 0:57:33.920 play that. You know, I can't play this is all 0:57:33.960 --> 0:57:37.360 right because I can't play that. Man, get fined and 0:57:37.480 --> 0:57:39.080 you want to get fired, you like, you want to 0:57:39.120 --> 0:57:40.600 lose your job and you want to lose your teeth. 0:57:43.240 --> 0:57:45.560 It's simple broke, Like I'm serious. Like so a lot 0:57:45.640 --> 0:57:49.000 of people don't even understand that they eating because of 0:57:49.080 --> 0:57:51.479 the efforts that we put it in. Like, we really 0:57:51.920 --> 0:57:55.960 took some penitential chances to get this music played right. 0:57:56.360 --> 0:57:59.120 And I understand, you know, and I understand that that 0:57:59.320 --> 0:58:03.840 is music got that didn't really benefit the coaching, really 0:58:04.200 --> 0:58:06.240 set us bank and all that. But I don't believe 0:58:06.320 --> 0:58:08.080 that we ever made that type of music. I think 0:58:08.120 --> 0:58:11.320 if you listen to our kid objectively, you know, I 0:58:11.480 --> 0:58:14.960 think that you're gonna get a whole lot more Uh, 0:58:15.440 --> 0:58:19.480 you know, information and instructions to help you navigate through this, 0:58:19.680 --> 0:58:23.760 through this, through this, uh, this maze, this, this weird 0:58:23.840 --> 0:58:25.840 as s place that we live in. Then you then 0:58:25.880 --> 0:58:29.240 you would not Yeah, and you was responsible too for 0:58:29.320 --> 0:58:32.920 a big, major part group. You told bush with the 0:58:33.000 --> 0:58:37.280 rep right. Yeah, Well when Bushwick the Crate the Trip. 0:58:37.360 --> 0:58:41.080 Part about it is that me and bush Wood had 0:58:41.120 --> 0:58:45.680 got into a you know, u a situation, you know, 0:58:46.360 --> 0:58:51.160 and the Bill was already red rap a Lot and 0:58:51.240 --> 0:58:54.840 we got into that situation. So I come in later 0:58:55.320 --> 0:58:59.440 and signed the rapp a Lot. So we're really picking it, 0:58:59.560 --> 0:59:02.000 ang kick it or nothing like that. But he's around. 0:59:02.040 --> 0:59:04.320 He's ain't go around. So when we got ready to 0:59:04.400 --> 0:59:08.600 make the album, we go out to the ranch, Jay Ranch, 0:59:09.200 --> 0:59:11.520 and Bill is hanging out. Bill is in the car, 0:59:12.040 --> 0:59:14.280 he's in the van. We dropped out. He hanging out. 0:59:14.280 --> 0:59:16.280 We're going out to make the Ripe for the first time. 0:59:16.760 --> 0:59:18.560 The first day that we went to gonna make the Roocket, 0:59:19.360 --> 0:59:22.960 it's the same day that I met Brod. I met 0:59:23.040 --> 0:59:24.600 him on the first day that we got the record. 0:59:25.480 --> 0:59:31.800 M Hm, Jukebox, he he's gonna be in the group. 0:59:31.840 --> 0:59:34.720 It's gonna be Me, Brad and juke Box as the 0:59:34.760 --> 0:59:39.880 three mcs and ready read the DJ. No, we wasn't 0:59:39.920 --> 0:59:42.400 gonna have nobody else in the group at all the day. 0:59:45.000 --> 0:59:49.240 But Bill is hanging out in the studio and about 0:59:49.800 --> 0:59:53.080 one day after the first day of recording, first a 0:59:53.160 --> 0:59:58.560 second day, juke Box get some information where some personal 0:59:58.680 --> 1:00:04.320 information that makes him make the decision that he, uh, 1:00:04.760 --> 1:00:07.120 he can't be in the group anymore. He don't want 1:00:07.120 --> 1:00:09.320 to be in the group. I think it was stuff 1:00:09.400 --> 1:00:11.919 situation about having a baby on the way or something 1:00:12.000 --> 1:00:14.520 like that. This music ship wasn't woken out, so he 1:00:14.760 --> 1:00:20.360 put the group. Mm hmm. So builders hanging out in 1:00:20.360 --> 1:00:24.080 the studio, get hanging out with a fart in lapping 1:00:24.880 --> 1:00:29.520 public end, Yes, the rhythm the weather without a pause 1:00:29.600 --> 1:00:32.520 and Lord and my Lover. He's rapping like that. You 1:00:32.600 --> 1:00:34.400 know when I look at him and a light come on, 1:00:35.240 --> 1:00:39.280 I say, man, I said, man, let's put Bush Week 1:00:39.320 --> 1:00:43.520 in the group. Everybody started laughing. I say, you see, 1:00:43.920 --> 1:00:47.960 that's what everybody else gonna do. They're gonna laugh until 1:00:48.000 --> 1:00:51.919 they hit this gangstad and shoot him the right. That's 1:00:52.360 --> 1:00:57.040 so I asked Jake if I write this form and 1:00:57.160 --> 1:00:59.440 he do with? Is he in the group? And Jay like, 1:01:00.600 --> 1:01:05.840 oh no, man, Bill, what you think? So Bill like, 1:01:06.960 --> 1:01:11.479 I don't know, but I can try. I took Bill 1:01:12.000 --> 1:01:16.960 into the kitchen, we said, at the breakfast table. I 1:01:17.080 --> 1:01:20.600 asked them some questions about it and stuff, and I 1:01:20.760 --> 1:01:23.720 embellished it with what I thought it might be like 1:01:23.880 --> 1:01:27.280 to walk in and shoes and I overside and ship. 1:01:28.160 --> 1:01:32.600 Three days later he recorded it. You know, he practiced 1:01:32.640 --> 1:01:35.200 it for three days and on that third day he 1:01:35.320 --> 1:01:40.360 recorded it and ship. After that it was on since now, 1:01:40.520 --> 1:01:43.360 if you listen to that first album, Bill is only 1:01:43.440 --> 1:01:47.040 on like four songs that he was moving. We had. 1:01:47.160 --> 1:01:50.280 It was under these strict time constraints, and we did. 1:01:50.360 --> 1:01:54.919 We got him in that just enough to textualize him 1:01:55.040 --> 1:02:00.280 as a member of the group. And so uh, that's 1:02:00.280 --> 1:02:02.680 how he became with Bill recorded. He didn't even have 1:02:02.760 --> 1:02:06.800 a contract. That's crazy. He didn't. He didn't even have 1:02:06.840 --> 1:02:10.320 a contract when he recorded that album. But we we 1:02:10.400 --> 1:02:14.880 knocked that album out in ten days album to get 1:02:15.040 --> 1:02:20.080 the only song that we had already was. Uh, we 1:02:20.240 --> 1:02:23.640 had a shell of the scarf Face song. You know 1:02:23.800 --> 1:02:26.000 that song, scarf Face. We had a shell of that 1:02:26.200 --> 1:02:30.640 song and really ready put some stuff from popive and 1:02:30.880 --> 1:02:37.080 just took that thing out into the stats field because 1:02:37.080 --> 1:02:40.160 I was really with the Scarface. We heard them, because 1:02:40.360 --> 1:02:42.480 that's when he made the transition from his name being 1:02:42.560 --> 1:02:46.200 DJ Action the scar Face after that, right, but now 1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:49.880 now now he changed, He went acting the scarf Face 1:02:50.840 --> 1:02:55.520 when he went solo. Mm hm. After we did after 1:02:55.640 --> 1:02:59.760 we did the first album together, we did a remake 1:03:00.040 --> 1:03:03.760 put out in nineteen ninety with Rick Ruby. Yeah, that 1:03:04.040 --> 1:03:08.880 level album. Yeah, and then then it was the we 1:03:09.000 --> 1:03:11.560 Can't Be Stopped Alving. Actually is when he changed the name, 1:03:11.640 --> 1:03:15.480 because his solo came like a couple of months after 1:03:15.560 --> 1:03:18.200 the We Can't Be Stopped Alving. That's that's the album 1:03:18.240 --> 1:03:21.560 with the non trick Suner so his so so he 1:03:21.680 --> 1:03:24.560 came with a solo about two three months after that, 1:03:25.360 --> 1:03:27.800 and so that's how that happened. All right, Phyllis, let's 1:03:27.840 --> 1:03:34.600 pay some bills real quick. We'll be right back, yeah man, Yo. 1:03:34.840 --> 1:03:40.160 Definitely man our major major contributors to hip hop culture 1:03:40.920 --> 1:03:43.640 because I remember and it's crazy for me to say, 1:03:43.640 --> 1:03:45.680 because I ain't that much younger than you at all, 1:03:45.800 --> 1:03:48.280 you know what I mean. But I literally grew up 1:03:48.320 --> 1:03:50.920 listening to the Ghetto boys, and when I listened to 1:03:50.960 --> 1:03:54.040 the Ghetto boys, I saw what the fifth ward was, 1:03:54.120 --> 1:03:56.320 and that was what hip hop being for me back then. 1:03:56.640 --> 1:03:59.000 You know, I'm gonna keeping in Cleveland, right and so 1:03:59.120 --> 1:04:01.160 I'm listening to get boys. My boys in the car. 1:04:01.280 --> 1:04:03.160 We slipped it like this, We all there, you know, 1:04:03.360 --> 1:04:05.560 got pistols in the car and everything. You know, you 1:04:05.600 --> 1:04:07.960 know what I mean. And I said, man, this is 1:04:08.000 --> 1:04:10.040 what Texas is like. When I heard in the w A, 1:04:10.160 --> 1:04:11.920 I said, Okay, this is what Kelly is like. You 1:04:11.960 --> 1:04:13.680 know what I'm saying. It's what compan like. You know 1:04:13.680 --> 1:04:17.520 what I'm saying. So it definitely gave you that that field. Man, 1:04:17.600 --> 1:04:19.160 I caught like to call it like it was a 1:04:19.240 --> 1:04:22.840 real visual to it, you know what I mean, animated 1:04:24.160 --> 1:04:27.200 eight know that better than anybody, because that that ship 1:04:27.320 --> 1:04:30.920 that he did was so fucking graphic, like like you 1:04:31.720 --> 1:04:34.760 could picture. He paid. He was he don't get enough 1:04:34.800 --> 1:04:38.480 credit for painting pictures. When he rapped. He paid pictures. 1:04:39.040 --> 1:04:41.760 You can see Chip you like walking with him like 1:04:42.800 --> 1:04:44.840 you were listening to his ship, you'd be like, if 1:04:45.720 --> 1:04:50.880 you think we all we all to do this at 1:04:50.960 --> 1:04:57.640 want to go, Well, you ain't try that one of 1:04:57.720 --> 1:05:02.800 the podcast dropping bro Money Day this Monday. Man, it's 1:05:02.800 --> 1:05:05.720 still heard that man. So what I want you to do? Man, 1:05:05.760 --> 1:05:07.680 we gotta we got a few people actually listening to 1:05:07.720 --> 1:05:09.440 this show. Man. So what I want you to do? 1:05:10.000 --> 1:05:11.800 I need all y'all to go out there right now. 1:05:12.000 --> 1:05:15.080 Go to all iTunes, go to Spotify, whatever your favor 1:05:15.120 --> 1:05:18.560 the platform meals, man, and find their new podcast man 1:05:18.640 --> 1:05:22.080 to get on boys, reloaded, get on board. Yes, indeed 1:05:22.480 --> 1:05:26.840 absolutely man. And we appreciate you, man, We appreciate Scarface. 1:05:26.880 --> 1:05:28.960 I think it's his phone tropped. He kept clicking out 1:05:28.960 --> 1:05:31.320 of clicking in man, But we appreciate your brothers coming 1:05:31.360 --> 1:05:35.000 on man. And I had to call I had to 1:05:35.120 --> 1:05:37.800 call Brad later when when when we get off, I 1:05:37.920 --> 1:05:39.880 hate em up and see what he up to? You know, 1:05:40.040 --> 1:05:43.240 that's that's here, you know how to tour with your 1:05:43.440 --> 1:05:48.200 ganger places. You know. You know that's Brad for you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 1:05:48.280 --> 1:05:50.680 you know. And and he going through it. I got told. 1:05:50.720 --> 1:05:53.080 I told another day man, I really can't say too 1:05:53.240 --> 1:05:56.560 much ship right now because you know you're going through it, 1:05:56.680 --> 1:05:59.720 so I can you know, like you know, yeah, you know, 1:06:00.040 --> 1:06:03.640 like all right, right, give him a little pass a 1:06:03.720 --> 1:06:07.320 little bit, little pass the ball. You wait till you 1:06:07.440 --> 1:06:11.600 get mother. I'm gonna be on his egg. That's right, 1:06:11.880 --> 1:06:16.480 that's the job always. Yeah, man, I know one thing, Will, 1:06:18.280 --> 1:06:19.640 I don't want to get you all on here and 1:06:19.680 --> 1:06:21.640 talk about a bunch of music because people, you know, 1:06:21.800 --> 1:06:24.440 for the most part, you know your history, your brothers, 1:06:24.480 --> 1:06:26.400 and that's what I was telling change. Really, I said, man, 1:06:26.440 --> 1:06:28.320 these brothers got a lot of ship to say about 1:06:28.400 --> 1:06:31.120 issues that's going on. So you know what, we definitely 1:06:31.120 --> 1:06:33.080 got to have you back on his motherfuck again, dogs 1:06:33.200 --> 1:06:35.160 all were ain't enough, you know what I'm saying. I 1:06:35.320 --> 1:06:38.000 wanted to hear about how they came with the Mind 1:06:38.080 --> 1:06:42.880 Playing Tricks on Yeah, back to back in my cadil. Yeah, 1:06:43.000 --> 1:06:47.040 that's to me. I give you, I give you a 1:06:47.080 --> 1:06:52.520 long story shot from so Brad, My Mind Playing Tricks 1:06:52.560 --> 1:06:57.160 was a scar faced record, and initially Brad brought that 1:06:57.280 --> 1:07:03.080 song to the table. Brag heard is Brad was in 1:07:03.160 --> 1:07:09.640 the house with his grandmother and his grandmother his grandmother 1:07:10.360 --> 1:07:12.960 had misplaced something and she said, you know, what did 1:07:13.000 --> 1:07:15.720 I do with such such such And I can't finding 1:07:15.800 --> 1:07:20.480 my mind playing tricks something. So Brad Brad catching light 1:07:20.560 --> 1:07:23.600 bulk come on. So he writes a song, my mind 1:07:23.640 --> 1:07:28.320 playing tricks something. He wrote three verses. If you listen 1:07:28.400 --> 1:07:32.600 to the song Brad got to he's the only one 1:07:32.920 --> 1:07:37.160 that has two verses verses and Bill have one verse. 1:07:37.280 --> 1:07:40.720 I got one verse. He gave Bill his third verse, 1:07:41.800 --> 1:07:46.360 and I wrote my verse. So you know, if it 1:07:46.520 --> 1:07:48.920 was today, we probably just would have just used those 1:07:48.960 --> 1:07:51.720 three verses and said that's cool. But I grew up 1:07:51.720 --> 1:07:53.160 in an era where you write your own set. If 1:07:53.160 --> 1:07:54.680 you didn't write your own SIPs, he was a real roup. 1:07:56.240 --> 1:07:58.120 Write my own ship. I don't want this verse. I 1:07:58.200 --> 1:08:00.320 want my own ship and write my own ship. So 1:08:00.560 --> 1:08:03.760 that's how that came about. But you know, it was 1:08:03.880 --> 1:08:06.880 brilliant number one for Brad to come up with the 1:08:06.960 --> 1:08:11.720 song first and farmost it's not even it don't happen 1:08:12.040 --> 1:08:16.080 without his you know, without his his genius, it don't happen. 1:08:16.920 --> 1:08:21.320 And then it was double brilliant, brilliant for Jada say, 1:08:22.640 --> 1:08:24.599 I think this is a deal better ghetto boy out 1:08:25.479 --> 1:08:29.760 better director. You know, this is cool, but I think 1:08:29.760 --> 1:08:32.760 it'd be better if it was a gettle boy. And 1:08:32.800 --> 1:08:35.560 if you listen to it and you see that you 1:08:35.680 --> 1:08:41.479 hear the different you hear the different personalities each of 1:08:41.680 --> 1:08:44.840 us take you to a different place. You know you're 1:08:44.880 --> 1:08:49.799 hearing uh you know the parianalia you mean, uh, mental 1:08:49.880 --> 1:08:54.599 health infused. Uh that that's a there's a certain amount 1:08:54.640 --> 1:09:01.639 of uh uh this this longerty that you hear that stuff. 1:09:02.120 --> 1:09:04.640 All of that stuff is laced throughout that song, and 1:09:04.720 --> 1:09:06.639 you get it and it takes you to different levels. 1:09:07.080 --> 1:09:12.640 So uh, when we did the song, James, I, I 1:09:12.840 --> 1:09:15.120 just did the song and left it alone. I didn't 1:09:15.160 --> 1:09:17.960 think the song. I had no idea of the song 1:09:18.040 --> 1:09:20.000 would even be close to doing it. I didn't think 1:09:20.080 --> 1:09:23.080 the song was a fucking great song. I thought it 1:09:23.200 --> 1:09:25.680 was a good song. But I also thought the other 1:09:25.800 --> 1:09:29.519 eleven songs on the album with good songs. Because when 1:09:29.560 --> 1:09:33.040 I make music, when I write a song, I don't 1:09:33.080 --> 1:09:36.600 try to write hits. I try to write classes. I 1:09:36.720 --> 1:09:38.880 just try to write a song that you're never gonna forget. 1:09:39.360 --> 1:09:43.360 So the consumer decides what's gonna be a hit based 1:09:43.400 --> 1:09:48.000 on based on stairs. I got control of what's gonna 1:09:48.040 --> 1:09:51.320 be a classic by what I put into that song, 1:09:52.400 --> 1:09:55.560 pour into the song, I decide if it's gonna be 1:09:55.640 --> 1:09:58.640 a classic or now. So that's all I do with 1:09:58.760 --> 1:10:02.439 every single song. I just pour into it. Whether I'm 1:10:02.479 --> 1:10:06.120 talking about you know, riding on what I'm saying, the 1:10:06.200 --> 1:10:09.120 k k k uh, my mind's playing tricks on me. 1:10:09.240 --> 1:10:11.760 Uh hey, watch having the ball it hold? You know 1:10:11.800 --> 1:10:15.479 what I'm saying. I'm gonna pull everything into that song 1:10:16.840 --> 1:10:19.200 and I'm gonna make it a classic. That's the way 1:10:19.280 --> 1:10:23.360 I operate, right. So I didn't know the song was 1:10:23.400 --> 1:10:27.160 gonna do what it did. I just got I did 1:10:27.240 --> 1:10:30.320 the song and left it alone and kept moving forward. 1:10:30.600 --> 1:10:34.120 And then we we did our when we did I 1:10:34.920 --> 1:10:37.840 test run, but we when we let people listen to 1:10:37.920 --> 1:10:41.439 the songs and they decide which ones they like. Everybody 1:10:41.560 --> 1:10:43.040 was like, well, I like the whole album, yeah, but 1:10:43.320 --> 1:10:47.080 you point you like the most. It's hard if you 1:10:47.160 --> 1:10:52.519 had you from the pick and it was a life 1:10:52.560 --> 1:10:56.599 of that situation, which one of these songs that you picked, 1:10:57.720 --> 1:11:01.640 and everybody kept going back to my playing trick. And 1:11:01.800 --> 1:11:04.000 even then I didn't think it was a great song. 1:11:04.120 --> 1:11:07.040 I was just like, with that's where we're going with that? Cool? 1:11:07.920 --> 1:11:10.479 Because I I do a song and I don't care 1:11:10.560 --> 1:11:13.160 how good he is. I started focusing on me. I 1:11:13.200 --> 1:11:17.400 got I don't like really just bask and you know, 1:11:17.600 --> 1:11:20.559 arrest on my lords. So I just kept it moving. 1:11:21.080 --> 1:11:24.720 And then next thing, you know, man, they said it 1:11:24.800 --> 1:11:27.599 to radio man, and we didn't have to go through 1:11:27.640 --> 1:11:32.599 the whole that regular process of going through the mix 1:11:32.720 --> 1:11:36.000 and getting added and this is that nothing. It was 1:11:36.080 --> 1:11:40.240 like day one. Picky spans a week on every radio 1:11:40.360 --> 1:11:43.280 station across the nation, and and they played it for 1:11:43.439 --> 1:11:47.719 six months straight that that That song was called a phoner. 1:11:48.040 --> 1:11:51.200 It's what it's called a phone radio. A phoner is 1:11:51.240 --> 1:11:54.599 a song that make the phone ring a lot the phone. 1:11:55.360 --> 1:12:00.040 And every song that you if that phone ring, it 1:12:00.240 --> 1:12:03.240 was more than likely people are acquinting to request that song. 1:12:03.600 --> 1:12:06.360 That's a phone And I'm gonna tell you something that 1:12:06.520 --> 1:12:08.160 was crazy about that song. And you didn't have a 1:12:08.200 --> 1:12:11.360 hook on it, right, I didn't have a hook. He 1:12:11.479 --> 1:12:16.479 was just there. I mean we didn't. We weren't really, 1:12:16.680 --> 1:12:19.080 We wasn't really big on hooks back then and our 1:12:19.200 --> 1:12:21.960 day though, we really weren't. We just just put the 1:12:22.040 --> 1:12:25.040 song out, just put the verse out, talk to the people, 1:12:25.120 --> 1:12:27.160 and keep it moving. To the next. I'm not trying 1:12:27.160 --> 1:12:29.799 to think about no hook to keep you happy or whatever. 1:12:30.200 --> 1:12:32.759 I'm just gonna I'm gonna tell you something to describe 1:12:32.800 --> 1:12:36.839 what's going on, and we're gonna keep it moving. Yeah. Yeah, feeling. 1:12:37.200 --> 1:12:39.120 It's a feeling with whether you put us hook in 1:12:39.200 --> 1:12:43.080 the song or not, the words, whether you put because 1:12:43.240 --> 1:12:45.559 it has it is a hook. The music is the hook, 1:12:45.880 --> 1:12:48.600 but it's but it's a it's a feeling, whether you 1:12:48.680 --> 1:12:53.400 put lyrics in that space or not. And so we 1:12:53.520 --> 1:12:56.640 got a few songs like that, uh one stuff. Man, 1:12:56.720 --> 1:12:59.280 he's just you know, you looked at them. It's almost 1:12:59.320 --> 1:13:03.000 like a songs the melody actually talks to you. The 1:13:03.120 --> 1:13:06.559 music speaks. It's like it's talking. It's like the music, guy, 1:13:07.600 --> 1:13:10.240 like the music come alive. The melody comes alive. It's 1:13:10.320 --> 1:13:16.640 talking to me. And that's a that's that's what I 1:13:16.720 --> 1:13:21.280 mean by the melody coming alive and actually talking to you. Yeah, 1:13:21.320 --> 1:13:23.639 that was that was That was then all time class man. 1:13:24.280 --> 1:13:26.800 It was a classic. And Will just got one more question, 1:13:27.080 --> 1:13:28.960 are we giving you more with you the albums? Man? 1:13:30.240 --> 1:13:33.760 You know, I like to really do something because you know, 1:13:33.880 --> 1:13:35.960 once an artist, always an artist. I don't care what 1:13:36.120 --> 1:13:38.240 eight say. He canna always do artist and he always 1:13:38.280 --> 1:13:40.400 gonna really been the back of mynd. I want to 1:13:40.439 --> 1:13:44.080 do one more, you know I should, That's gonna always 1:13:44.120 --> 1:13:48.439 been on your mind. So I for me, For me, 1:13:48.720 --> 1:13:51.479 I was like, I'm like, as much as I want 1:13:51.479 --> 1:13:53.840 to be one, and I got some great ideas, but 1:13:53.960 --> 1:13:56.840 I don't want it to fall on deaf ears. You know, 1:13:57.000 --> 1:13:58.960 I don't want to just go in and make an 1:13:59.040 --> 1:14:03.840 album because doesn't cost money, and it costs. It costs money, 1:14:03.880 --> 1:14:06.400 and it costs time to make these records, and I 1:14:06.479 --> 1:14:08.560 don't want to just make do something like that. I 1:14:08.600 --> 1:14:11.479 don't want to just make a record just the chips 1:14:11.520 --> 1:14:14.160 and give us I want if I make the record, 1:14:14.240 --> 1:14:16.120 I spend my time and my money and my effort. 1:14:17.040 --> 1:14:20.360 I want people to hear it. And we're in a 1:14:20.479 --> 1:14:22.920 we're in a We're in an age right now where 1:14:25.120 --> 1:14:28.680 favor is not given to the best stuff. I feel like, 1:14:28.920 --> 1:14:31.400 I do believe that that this generation is the first 1:14:31.439 --> 1:14:34.880 generation of music lovers who are not going to experience 1:14:34.960 --> 1:14:37.519 the best that that generation has to offer. Now, they're 1:14:37.560 --> 1:14:40.920 gonna have thumbs experiences. You know, there's always gonna be 1:14:41.040 --> 1:14:44.600 a few artists, but there's always gonna be stun But 1:14:45.760 --> 1:14:48.000 a lot of artists in this generation don't want to 1:14:48.040 --> 1:14:50.200 play the game. They got good stuff. They don't want 1:14:50.240 --> 1:14:52.960 to do moble wrap. They don't want to be mindless stuff. 1:14:53.080 --> 1:14:54.880 They don't want to. They don't want to. They don't 1:14:54.880 --> 1:14:57.280 want to talk about killing black men. They don't want 1:14:57.280 --> 1:15:01.760 to do that. So they they might make music and 1:15:01.840 --> 1:15:04.559 they just make music at home, or they're just gonna 1:15:04.600 --> 1:15:06.439 get a job someone and just say fucking you know, 1:15:06.600 --> 1:15:09.280 I'm not I'm not doing this, you know. And so 1:15:09.479 --> 1:15:11.400 even even on the R and B side of things, 1:15:11.920 --> 1:15:14.280 you know, uh, they don't want to make music because 1:15:14.439 --> 1:15:16.120 a lot of the R and B artists ain't really 1:15:16.240 --> 1:15:19.680 talking about nothing. They there's no substance. So a lot 1:15:20.240 --> 1:15:22.040 don't want to play the game. They just don't want 1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:25.240 to play the game. So I believe that when we 1:15:25.439 --> 1:15:28.240 came out, if you was dope, when you was just 1:15:28.360 --> 1:15:31.040 a dope, ask MC, it was gonna be hard if 1:15:31.080 --> 1:15:33.679 you cant get on, If you were spoken and returning 1:15:33.720 --> 1:15:36.040 to get up on, you're gonna be able to get 1:15:36.080 --> 1:15:37.920 in front of somebody and then he was gonna get 1:15:37.960 --> 1:15:43.080 put on. Now not so much, they're like you'd be like, yes, 1:15:43.160 --> 1:15:46.400 saying something you doke, you're saying some do and they'd 1:15:46.400 --> 1:15:51.040 be like, yeah, man, but ship man, you ain't. You 1:15:51.160 --> 1:15:53.519 ain't killed with old people in the song man I 1:15:53.600 --> 1:15:58.439 need who he raised you by the count. Yeah, you 1:15:59.560 --> 1:16:02.200 said you ain't sipping. You ain't popping enough pills or 1:16:02.240 --> 1:16:04.920 sipping enough. We do some ship you ain't got on 1:16:05.160 --> 1:16:09.200 enough choke chains or some ship. Something's going on. So 1:16:11.920 --> 1:16:16.320 why y'all don't get together the old school and y'all 1:16:16.360 --> 1:16:20.000 push something together and show these cats that you don't 1:16:20.040 --> 1:16:23.439 have to talk about murdering your people on the show 1:16:24.120 --> 1:16:28.880 and you're good goddamn party and so. But but but 1:16:29.040 --> 1:16:32.400 that that that's happening all around us. It's just that 1:16:32.840 --> 1:16:36.160 the people like us who talk that ship that's safe, 1:16:36.280 --> 1:16:38.479 why y'all won't do it? You know, we need to 1:16:38.520 --> 1:16:41.559 come out and do it. So they like, but we're 1:16:41.600 --> 1:16:45.000 not buying the records they just talked. They weren't by 1:16:45.040 --> 1:16:47.519 the records, and they're not going to the concerts. So 1:16:47.640 --> 1:16:50.639 it's not even sustainable for the artists to go out 1:16:50.680 --> 1:16:53.559 there and spend that money and spend that time. Because 1:16:53.880 --> 1:16:56.360 the people like us, we talk a lot of ships 1:16:56.439 --> 1:17:00.439 our generation, we always talking ship, but we don'ta back 1:17:00.479 --> 1:17:04.559 it up. Our ask is we're gonna we we get 1:17:04.600 --> 1:17:07.599 ready to listen to me. We're gonna going there, put 1:17:07.680 --> 1:17:10.679 us off from them down. C D. Stick that ship 1:17:10.720 --> 1:17:12.640 in the car. You're gonna be looking for somewhere to 1:17:12.680 --> 1:17:16.040 play the damn CD. You you gotta you got a 1:17:16.120 --> 1:17:18.720 CD player in your car? You okay, come on, come on, 1:17:18.800 --> 1:17:21.000 come on, you know, because they already think they got 1:17:21.040 --> 1:17:23.360 the PST music. They don't think any better music can 1:17:23.400 --> 1:17:25.960 ever be made again. So we already got that music, 1:17:26.000 --> 1:17:28.439 and they're not buying records, they're not buying the screen. Yeah, 1:17:28.439 --> 1:17:31.439 a few people do it, but it's not enough people 1:17:31.479 --> 1:17:37.200 that's doing it to make it feasible or eating for practical, 1:17:37.400 --> 1:17:40.640 for artists to going there and spend that kind of 1:17:40.720 --> 1:17:44.479 time and money and resources. It's it's not there. It's 1:17:44.520 --> 1:17:47.519 too big of a risk, right, It's too big of 1:17:47.560 --> 1:17:49.439 a risk. So that's why a lot of artists just 1:17:49.560 --> 1:17:53.120 gon't do it. For me, I'm at a I'm at 1:17:53.160 --> 1:17:57.560 a stage in my life where time is everything to me. 1:17:59.360 --> 1:18:02.320 I have to it. I look at everything that I 1:18:02.520 --> 1:18:09.960 do based on quality. Okay, I got this so much 1:18:10.040 --> 1:18:12.719 time and a back. I'm gonna spend this much time 1:18:13.360 --> 1:18:17.160 throwing into my businesses. I'm gonna spend this much time sleeping. 1:18:17.840 --> 1:18:20.240 I'm gonna spend this much time if I if I 1:18:20.360 --> 1:18:23.160 get a break, I'm gonna shoot over here and gonna 1:18:23.160 --> 1:18:26.200 see my aunt at the conversacing home, or sit on 1:18:26.280 --> 1:18:29.040 the porch with my brothers and drink have a drink 1:18:29.160 --> 1:18:33.200 or something, or you know, I'm a hang out with 1:18:33.320 --> 1:18:36.120 this this woman, you know, for a moment or whatever, 1:18:36.840 --> 1:18:39.920 and then I'm back at it. It was like if 1:18:40.400 --> 1:18:42.840 if I'm, if I'm and when it comes it's like 1:18:43.360 --> 1:18:47.320 like doing things that costs me to invest money. In 1:18:47.479 --> 1:18:50.720 my mind, I'm like, how is this money gonna come 1:18:50.800 --> 1:18:54.720 back to me? If I go fit me out there 1:18:56.360 --> 1:18:58.720 for it to be worth my time, I got the 1:18:58.840 --> 1:19:01.800 at least double upon it. I gotta leave it for 1:19:01.880 --> 1:19:05.320 they to be worth my time. So I'm I'm not 1:19:05.560 --> 1:19:07.639 doing it like that, like I gotta get it back, 1:19:09.080 --> 1:19:10.880 Like how I'm gonna get this money back, any money 1:19:10.960 --> 1:19:13.840 that I put out, any money I put out. I'm 1:19:13.880 --> 1:19:16.720 looking at how do I get this money back? You know, 1:19:17.000 --> 1:19:18.400 if I get on the tree, if I get on 1:19:18.479 --> 1:19:22.120 the plane and I go to l level for ten 1:19:22.240 --> 1:19:26.479 days and I spent fifteen twenty racks. I gotta I 1:19:26.600 --> 1:19:30.120 gotta know while I mean I'm there, that I got 1:19:31.080 --> 1:19:34.439 you know, uh thirty or farty rack coming in while 1:19:34.439 --> 1:19:38.120 I'm out there. I'm not gonna just I'm not going 1:19:38.200 --> 1:19:43.599 backwards brough, you know what I'm saying. Yeah, the backwards 1:19:43.680 --> 1:19:49.200 days is over with long Well, man, we appreciate your 1:19:49.240 --> 1:19:51.880 big dog and we definitely gonna have you on here again, man, 1:19:52.000 --> 1:19:54.880 because you are so first issues. I follow you on 1:19:55.040 --> 1:19:57.760 social media. Man, I'm a big fan and I saw 1:19:58.000 --> 1:20:00.080 maybe and a lot of people don't know will you 1:20:00.280 --> 1:20:03.800 was on this podcast stuff early? Right right? You use 1:20:03.840 --> 1:20:06.720 on the podcast thing early? You know what the trip 1:20:06.800 --> 1:20:10.720 part about it? And I'm gonna say this, this is 1:20:10.800 --> 1:20:13.800 important for people to hear. When I first got on 1:20:14.120 --> 1:20:17.840 the podcast and the podcast space was ninety of what 1:20:18.040 --> 1:20:25.000 was was twenty uh seventeen, I think seen and no 1:20:25.160 --> 1:20:29.160 other artists who had names like who was branded was 1:20:29.280 --> 1:20:32.679 on doing in that space? Right? And when I got 1:20:32.760 --> 1:20:37.160 into that were the detractors, the haters, the ones who 1:20:37.240 --> 1:20:40.240 don't really want to see you win. They were making 1:20:40.320 --> 1:20:43.200 us slot comments like yeah, how you go for me? 1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:47.120 And ghetto boys to do who drew and fun of it, right, 1:20:47.760 --> 1:20:49.680 But I saw a vision. I was like, this is 1:20:49.800 --> 1:20:52.760 the future, Like this ship right here, this ship is 1:20:52.840 --> 1:20:56.559 the future. And I was like, I'm for the jumping 1:20:56.640 --> 1:20:59.519 this ship right now. So I had to put my 1:20:59.640 --> 1:21:01.680 heart line his own and do it just like this here. 1:21:02.120 --> 1:21:05.280 And I'm starting come around at boom boom boom. You know. 1:21:06.080 --> 1:21:10.080 Uh So I was like building it at that time, 1:21:10.880 --> 1:21:17.280 and I'm seeing it growing. And then I get to 1:21:17.360 --> 1:21:19.840 a point where I get it to six figures a month. 1:21:21.160 --> 1:21:25.640 And now a little bit later, okay, you got the 1:21:25.680 --> 1:21:32.160 pandemic hit. Then all of a sudden, artists, ball playing, 1:21:32.240 --> 1:21:36.120 a lot of people that make spotty income started getting 1:21:36.120 --> 1:21:38.960 into that space. But I already had like a three 1:21:39.040 --> 1:21:41.760 or four year jump on it. I was already here. 1:21:42.120 --> 1:21:46.479 So now now it's cool to your YouTube. It's cool 1:21:46.520 --> 1:21:49.200 to have a YouTube channel, you know, it's cool to 1:21:49.280 --> 1:21:53.160 be in the podcast space. That's cool ship now. But 1:21:53.280 --> 1:21:56.160 when I first started doing it, you know, you had 1:21:56.280 --> 1:21:59.479 some people that try to attach a stigma to it, right, 1:22:00.120 --> 1:22:02.120 But I've always been the kind of dude I've been. 1:22:02.680 --> 1:22:06.960 I've never been afraid to diversify. I've never been afraid 1:22:07.040 --> 1:22:12.240 to invent myself and so, uh, you know when I 1:22:12.320 --> 1:22:14.760 make these moves, I just look at it like I'm 1:22:14.800 --> 1:22:18.240 always like trying to play long ball? What's the long ball? Like? 1:22:18.360 --> 1:22:21.519 How do I how do how do how do I 1:22:21.680 --> 1:22:25.599 make this thing work long term? And and and keep 1:22:25.640 --> 1:22:30.120 it going? So when you when you when you're trying 1:22:30.160 --> 1:22:34.439 to do something, especially anybody that is doing something right now, 1:22:34.560 --> 1:22:37.840 trying to get something going. You got something going and 1:22:37.920 --> 1:22:41.839 it's popping, and all of a sudden, these sucker Hayden 1:22:42.000 --> 1:22:44.800 fun Boys come out of nowhere trying to attack you. 1:22:45.520 --> 1:22:48.479 They're attacking you out of jealousy. They won't your spot. 1:22:49.560 --> 1:22:54.000 It's like it's that always staying like lines don't really 1:22:54.080 --> 1:22:57.519 pay a lot of attention, you know, right, like the 1:22:57.680 --> 1:23:01.560 kittens right there, fucking kitten. You know, the lion is 1:23:01.680 --> 1:23:05.519 moving forward. We don't even think about these kittens behind us, 1:23:06.160 --> 1:23:10.640 But if they get close enough, I will by the 1:23:11.120 --> 1:23:16.040 by the patch of meat at your ass, you're closing. 1:23:16.800 --> 1:23:19.240 But a lot of these casts, but they know that 1:23:19.400 --> 1:23:22.600 and they try to They use the Internet like the 1:23:22.680 --> 1:23:25.080 Internet is like like like the new phone. Right, the 1:23:25.160 --> 1:23:27.200 Internet is like remember back in the back in the 1:23:27.280 --> 1:23:29.760 day on the phone. Somebody want to talk ship they call. 1:23:29.880 --> 1:23:35.320 Y'all know, I'm gonna kick your ass. You don't know 1:23:35.439 --> 1:23:39.920 this up is but he won't. But he won't. He won't. 1:23:40.320 --> 1:23:42.720 You We meet man's ups up and you you felt 1:23:42.720 --> 1:23:45.640 around fall asleep waiting on this spool, you know. But 1:23:45.760 --> 1:23:48.200 that's how the internet is. Man. Whole bunch of buster 1:23:48.280 --> 1:23:50.479 is a bunch of suppers who stay things that they 1:23:50.520 --> 1:23:54.000 would never say to a man's face. But but if 1:23:54.000 --> 1:23:55.760 you're gonna be in this space, you gotta put your 1:23:55.760 --> 1:23:58.760 blinders on and then and get what you want, what 1:23:58.880 --> 1:24:02.080 you gotta get out of Yeah, the show, because you 1:24:02.280 --> 1:24:06.200 man predate everybody. Man. And again, we appreciate having you 1:24:06.280 --> 1:24:09.000 on here, big dog. Absolutely, I appreciate you, man. I 1:24:09.040 --> 1:24:11.360 appreciate what y'all doing with this game's chronical. I mean 1:24:11.400 --> 1:24:13.840 when y'all first started doing it, you know Dangs was 1:24:14.600 --> 1:24:16.840 when he was doing it great on the regular. I 1:24:16.960 --> 1:24:19.519 remember when the first started popping off, and uh, I 1:24:19.640 --> 1:24:22.040 was like, yeah, they got something like that, they got 1:24:22.120 --> 1:24:27.160 something like that, yeah, man, And what to come into 1:24:27.479 --> 1:24:31.720 the games chachronical? I came in U what about h 1:24:32.600 --> 1:24:36.719 last year? I started in Yeah here and it was crazy. 1:24:36.880 --> 1:24:38.640 Is this this is how that happened. I'll tell you. 1:24:40.640 --> 1:24:43.479 When you had a guy, you know, we had another personnel, 1:24:43.520 --> 1:24:47.600 remember that has some issues, right, And um, I was 1:24:47.720 --> 1:24:49.840 talking to eight earlier. You know he came on the 1:24:49.920 --> 1:24:53.040 show and I would actually talked to James. I said, man, 1:24:53.120 --> 1:24:55.160 it would be kind of tight. And I'm gonna tell 1:24:55.200 --> 1:24:57.519 you what James said. I said, James, what do you 1:24:57.560 --> 1:25:00.519 think about having eight on here? James let me like this? 1:25:00.640 --> 1:25:04.280 He said, he was cool. I gotta think on it, though, 1:25:05.920 --> 1:25:07.960 gonna be on no gag baby ship because I'm positive 1:25:08.000 --> 1:25:11.439 I don't want no gang bangers to I didn't like 1:25:11.600 --> 1:25:14.479 that because at that point then he had no conversations, right, 1:25:15.200 --> 1:25:17.800 and so I knew I was only something though, right 1:25:17.960 --> 1:25:20.040 because me and was talking about it in the pandemic 1:25:20.080 --> 1:25:22.600 should happen, then this cat that I knew it was 1:25:22.640 --> 1:25:24.479 going to carry his ass wand up tearing this as 1:25:24.680 --> 1:25:26.559 I'm like you will you think like me? I think 1:25:26.600 --> 1:25:29.479 ahead of time when somebody go do something, because they 1:25:29.720 --> 1:25:31.320 tell you what they're about to do all the time 1:25:31.400 --> 1:25:33.200 without saying the word. You just gotta look at him. 1:25:34.080 --> 1:25:36.679 So I said, man, this might be about the time 1:25:36.720 --> 1:25:38.600 to activate their point with ay. So I talked to 1:25:38.800 --> 1:25:41.400 James about and James said, yeah, you know he was 1:25:41.479 --> 1:25:43.040 with it right. You want to see how I go. 1:25:43.760 --> 1:25:45.960 And I'm gonna tell you. We was talking to Charlotte Magne, 1:25:46.080 --> 1:25:49.120 Charlotte Magne and started. That's when everybody was calling us. 1:25:49.160 --> 1:25:51.800 Then we had every podcast networking was calling us at 1:25:51.840 --> 1:25:54.080 one time. We went and took some of them bulls, 1:25:54.160 --> 1:25:56.920 some of the means with bullshit. Someone was cool, um, 1:25:58.200 --> 1:26:00.479 But when Charlotte Mane was talking, He's said, man, I 1:26:00.640 --> 1:26:02.680 just think y'all need one more dude on there, but 1:26:02.800 --> 1:26:05.479 y'all need like an artist. And I said, what artists 1:26:05.520 --> 1:26:07.400 you think about? And I'm thinking he gonna say somebody 1:26:07.520 --> 1:26:10.600 just corny, right, He said, man, I think m c 1:26:10.760 --> 1:26:12.960 a to be cold the motherfucker on there too with y'all. 1:26:13.320 --> 1:26:15.200 And I said, I just smiled. I said I had 1:26:15.200 --> 1:26:17.160 already thought of it, you know what I mean. So 1:26:17.439 --> 1:26:20.120 it was wound up, and it wound up working another 1:26:20.520 --> 1:26:24.360 wound up being some good ship. Man. We were honestly unfortunately, 1:26:24.840 --> 1:26:28.360 really unfortunately. And one thing I always give James his problems, man, 1:26:28.400 --> 1:26:34.640 because James has been consistent from day one. Another thing 1:26:35.200 --> 1:26:37.960 to me. It was all about the gamest chronicles. It 1:26:38.120 --> 1:26:40.560 was all once I started talking and got used to it, 1:26:41.320 --> 1:26:43.880 and I seemed the fact that it had on other people. 1:26:44.479 --> 1:26:46.200 Then I said, this is where I need to be. 1:26:46.800 --> 1:26:49.559 This is about purpose. So we had did a show 1:26:49.680 --> 1:26:53.840 with A and the came on one episode and I 1:26:54.560 --> 1:26:57.800 gravitated to his vibe. He was, okay, hey, it's cool. 1:26:57.920 --> 1:27:01.000 I didn't know him because I had this this this 1:27:01.280 --> 1:27:04.040 perception I ate men like first I thought he was 1:27:04.200 --> 1:27:08.880 talk Okay, you own this game, bank and ship. Let's 1:27:08.880 --> 1:27:11.120 see how I go in the in the in the Uh. 1:27:11.600 --> 1:27:18.120 When we do the interview, it went well. So I 1:27:18.280 --> 1:27:21.320 told Noe, man, I don't know if I could take him. 1:27:21.400 --> 1:27:29.680 Just just just said town and then uh, I'm just 1:27:29.960 --> 1:27:32.360 I mean we black people. I said I could work 1:27:32.400 --> 1:27:34.560 for him, and I could work with anybody else, but 1:27:34.680 --> 1:27:37.040 I would work with A. You know what I'm saying. 1:27:38.479 --> 1:27:44.839 We made it happen. Ye You've right right. It's beautiful. 1:27:44.880 --> 1:27:49.680 Stee man, y'all will do some big ship with y'all 1:27:49.760 --> 1:27:52.120 show we have the Charlotte Magne was telling me about it, man, 1:27:52.520 --> 1:27:54.519 and I said, when he first got I said, man, 1:27:54.600 --> 1:27:56.800 he's been making some moves and I told him, I 1:27:56.840 --> 1:28:00.439 said it was smart man, and man, you know you 1:28:00.520 --> 1:28:05.200 neednt thing from us, big Dog is oll. I appreciate it, 1:28:05.200 --> 1:28:07.639 and thanks for inviting me on man to talk about 1:28:07.960 --> 1:28:10.679 you know, life and uh and also give a shout 1:28:10.720 --> 1:28:13.000 out to the podcast. I appreciate you all, sure. And 1:28:13.160 --> 1:28:14.960 we also got it. On another note, bro, we got 1:28:15.080 --> 1:28:18.479 a radio show to come on every Friday night. That's 1:28:18.560 --> 1:28:20.960 we alradio. We're in front of think five million people 1:28:21.000 --> 1:28:24.720 some ship like the Living stations across southern California. So 1:28:24.760 --> 1:28:26.680 I mean you might want to put some music out, Dog, 1:28:26.960 --> 1:28:31.240 so you got out let me ut you that's beautiful. 1:28:31.280 --> 1:28:34.000 That's beautiful. That's it. That's very important man, that y'all, 1:28:34.120 --> 1:28:38.040 that y'all you know, coming back and grabbing that space 1:28:38.160 --> 1:28:41.680 man like, and not because it's it's like it's it's 1:28:41.720 --> 1:28:44.639 it's guys that that are like us that helped build 1:28:44.680 --> 1:28:48.920 this landscape or whatever. And you know, we really didn't 1:28:49.120 --> 1:28:51.439 know what we had, you know, we so we didn't 1:28:51.439 --> 1:28:54.679 really take advantage of some of those opportunities. So it's 1:28:54.680 --> 1:28:58.960 always good to see people come back and be able 1:28:58.960 --> 1:29:02.519 to you know, basically kind of like capture that lightning 1:29:02.560 --> 1:29:06.280 in the bottle, so to speak, and and and get 1:29:06.360 --> 1:29:09.280 some of this, uh, some of this, some of this, 1:29:09.560 --> 1:29:16.519 uh this culture that that that we help cultivate. M hm, Well, 1:29:16.560 --> 1:29:19.000 it ain't too late. It ain't too late if we all, 1:29:19.640 --> 1:29:21.800 if we all start working together and doing what we 1:29:21.920 --> 1:29:25.120 gotta do, doing what we said we want to do. Man, 1:29:25.200 --> 1:29:28.760 we put that together. We got something. Yeah, it ain't 1:29:28.800 --> 1:29:33.080 too late for for you. Me I learned it ain't 1:29:33.080 --> 1:29:34.960 too late for none of us to really get out 1:29:35.000 --> 1:29:37.920 and do what we really want to do our passion. Yeah, 1:29:37.960 --> 1:29:42.080 absolutely help our people. So it ain't never too late 1:29:42.160 --> 1:29:45.800 for us to put our ears together and do something now. 1:29:46.400 --> 1:29:48.640 You know what I'm saying now and is where this 1:29:48.840 --> 1:29:52.439 is when we need it the most now, right, So 1:29:53.080 --> 1:29:57.479 we together, let's do what we gotta do exactly. We 1:29:57.560 --> 1:30:01.120 ain't scared for all all listeners out there. And make 1:30:01.200 --> 1:30:03.760 sure you know we don't put the full episodes on 1:30:03.880 --> 1:30:06.439 YouTube no more, so stop asking me about it. Go 1:30:06.600 --> 1:30:09.759 to pot TV, go download the pot TV. After Lincoln's 1:30:09.800 --> 1:30:14.040 description and we out of here. Well, that concludes another 1:30:14.120 --> 1:30:17.559 episode of Against the Chronicles podcast. Be sure to download 1:30:17.600 --> 1:30:20.479 the I Heart Apple subscribe to the Gainst Chronicles podcast 1:30:20.560 --> 1:30:23.200 for Apple users find that purple mica on the front 1:30:23.240 --> 1:30:25.759 screening your phone, Subscribe to the show, leave for comment 1:30:25.840 --> 1:30:28.920 and a rating. Executive producers for The Gangster Chronicles of 1:30:29.000 --> 1:30:33.080 Norm Steel James McDonald and Aaron M c taylor. 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